auto-moto.1stefan,
Svi koji prate moto trke ili trke formule 1 i vole Hila mogu da pišu
ovde. Dobro ajde, mogu i oni koji vole Šumahera ;)
auto-moto.2senna,
Zahvaljujem na konacnom razdvajanju od extra:automobili :)
auto-moto.3junior,
> pišu ovde. Dobro ajde, mogu i oni koji vole Šumahera ;)
Eh, hvala ;)
Gledao sam pre neki dan predstavljanje novog McLarenovog bolida
na televiziji. Ti momci izgledaju opasno ... kao da se ne šale :)
Ko je sad drugi vozač Mclarena?
auto-moto.4lexus,
=> Ko je sad drugi vozač Mclarena?
David Coulthar, naravno.
auto-moto.5obren,
> Gledao sam pre neki dan predstavljanje novog McLarenovog bolida
> na televiziji. Ti momci izgledaju opasno ... kao da se ne šale :)
Može nešto više o novom izgledu bolida? Kako izgleda "nos"?
auto-moto.6lexus,
=> David Coulthar, naravno.
Čini mi se da sam zaboravio jedno "d" na kraju O:)
Dakle, vozač je David Coulthard.
Sorry!
auto-moto.8crncic,
Videli ste FerariJev bolid 310, 10 cilindara 3 litre ?
Slabo se razumem u F1, kako to ide, neka firma napravi
svoj model i odmah ga pusti u opticaj bez obzira što je
'jači' od konkurencije, odma' ide u trku ?
auto-moto.9stefan,
> Videli ste FerariJev bolid 310, 10 cilindara 3 litre ?
Po pisanju Žurnala Ferari je imao poprilično problema sa svojom aždahom
(crkavao menjač, eksplodirao motor...). Inače, prva trka - GP Australije
se održava 10. marta.
auto-moto.10junior,
> Može nešto više o novom izgledu bolida? Kako izgleda "nos"?
Ne znam, sorry ;(
Ide u Žurnalu svakog dana opis novih motora, novih izgleda
bolida, i karijere svakog vozača, pa ako vidim opis, preneću
ga ...
auto-moto.11miko,
WW>> Moze nesto vise o novom izgledu bolida? Kako izgleda
WW>> "nos"?
Izgleda kao i Benetton-ov prosle,a bogami i ove godine.Pored
njih,takav nos su konstruisali jos Tyrell i Ligier,a mislim i
Jordan.Mislim da je cak i FISA naredila ovakve promene zbog
valjda vece bezbednosti,mada nisam siguran.
auto-moto.12miko,
WW>> Videli ste FerariJev bolid 310, 10 cilindara 3 litre ?
Glavni problem Ferarri-ja bio je,a i ostace motor...Naime,po
tradiciji oni su konstruisali samo V12 motore koji su bili
strasno teski i koji su trosili mnogo goriva.Sada su odlucili
da okrenu novi list i oprobaju se sa V10 motorima sa cijom
konstrukcijom oni nemaju mnogo iskustva.Odatle i brojni
kvarovi,eksplozije motora i ostali problemi doticnog bolida.
Jedina dobra stvar kod tog bolida,trenutno,je sto Schumacheru
zadaje velike muke ;)) Cak se pre nekoliko dana i zapalio
u njemu.
WW>> Slabo se razumem u F1, kako to ide, neka firma napravi
WW>> svoj model i odmah ga pusti u opticaj bez obzira sto je
WW>> 'jaci' od konkurencije, odma' ide u trku ?
Da,pod uslovom da spada pod odredjene (propisane pre sezone)
granice regularnosti.
auto-moto.13miko,
Posto neko vreme nisam bio u toku sa dogadjanjima u svetu
F1,molio bih da neko obavesten dopuni (ili ispravi) sledecu listu
vozaca u sezoni 1996.
Hill,Vilneuve (Williams)
Schumacher,Irvine (Ferrari)
Alesi,Berger (Benetton)
Hakkinen,Coulthard (McLaren)
Frentzen,Herbert (Sauber)
Barrichello,Brundle (Jordan)
Katayama,Salo (Tyrell)
Panis, ? (Ligier)
Martini(?),Lamy (Minardi)
. . .
Arrows ?
Simtec ?
FortiCorse ?
auto-moto.16vesboj,
Jel zna neko kada pocinje domaci sampionat na kruznim stazama
i ko ce da bude sampion u klasi VI
auto-moto.17obren,
> Panis, ? (Ligier)
Drugi je, nažalost, Pedro Diniz :( Momak ima jake sponzore,
ali što se tiče vožnje - baš su se usrećili... Mada, može da
se desi da ode u drugu ekipu :)
Navijač Ligier Mugena
auto-moto.18obren,
> Sada su odlucili da okrenu novi list i oprobaju se sa V10
> motorima sa cijom konstrukcijom oni nemaju mnogo iskustva.
Motor je projektovao Osamu Goto, nekada glavni inženjer Honde.
Njegove kreacije su oni Monstrumi od 1000+ konja (6 titula u
kategoriji konstruktora) kojima je Ayrton Senna pisao istoriju.
Uhodaće oni novi motor, mada bih voleo da imaju što više
problema sa dotičnim zbog onog Bananamena ;> (Mihailo Obućar)
auto-moto.19senna,
Poruke o automobilima u extra:automobili
auto-moto.20stefan,
> Poruke o automobilima u extra:automobili
Da, za rezervne delove i slično koristite dotičnu temu. Ova tema je samo
za sportske aspekte automobilizma :)
auto-moto.21space.ace,
--> Gledao sam pre neki dan predstavljanje novog McLarenovog bolida
--> na televiziji. Ti momci izgledaju opasno ... kao da se ne šale :)
MA to je samo šarena laža. Biće isto tako loši ko i prošle sezone.
Btw, Jordan i njihov bolid mi izgledaju cool. Jel' se neko divio
njihovom bolidu, ili sam ga ja jedini video?
HILL IS THE BEST!!!
auto-moto.22space.ace,
--> Svi koji prate moto trke ili trke formule 1 i vole Hila mogu da
--> pišu
Volimo HILL-a, mrzimo Švabu...
Pisaćemo i ovde...
auto-moto.23stefan,
> Volimo HILL-a, mrzimo Švabu...
> Pisaćemo i ovde...
Slobodno pišite, samo eventualno nemojte ovu temu da pretvarate u kopiju
foruma :)
auto-moto.24senna,
re: Hill vs Schumacher
Schumachera zaista ne podnosim,ali je cinjenica da je
definitivno bolji vozac od Hilla.
auto-moto.25wiper,
Hillov veliki problem je sto mnogo misli dok vozi
On jednostavno nesme da nagazi do poda dok vozi .
A svaba izvlaci maxsimum i uvek je brzi
Ne pamtim kad je Hill kasno kocio ili nekoga iseko
A bez toga se nemoze biti sampion
auto-moto.26wiper,
> Btw, Jordan i njihov bolid mi izgledaju cool. Jel' se neko divio
> njihovom bolidu, ili sam ga ja jedini video?
>
> HILL IS THE BEST!!!
Ma Hil nema pojma - Kulhard je za njega izmislio voznju
Baricelo je dobar
Sto se Dzordana tice tipujem na Baricela da uzme neku pobedu ove sezone
Barem jedno dve pobede.
O njemu ce se tek pricati..
auto-moto.27wiper,
> Posto neko vreme nisam bio u toku sa dogadjanjima u svetu
> F1,molio bih da neko obavesten dopuni (ili ispravi) sledecu listu
> vozaca u sezoni 1996.
>
> Hill,Vilneuve (Williams)
> Schumacher,Irvine (Ferrari)
> Alesi,Berger (Benetton)
> Hakkinen,Coulthard (McLaren)
> Frentzen,Herbert (Sauber)
> Barrichello,Brundle (Jordan)
> Katayama,Salo (Tyrell)
> Panis, ? (Ligier)
> Martini(?),Lamy (Minardi)
> . . .
> Arrows ?
> Simtec ?
> FortiCorse ?
Pa ovi sto imaju EuroSport mogli bi da daju CEO SPISAK TIMOVA I VOZACA
auto-moto.28stevicm,
> MA to je samo sarena laza. Bice isto tako losi ko i prosle sezone.
> Btw, Jordan i njihov bolid mi izgledaju cool. Jel' se neko divio
> njihovom bolidu, ili sam ga ja jedini video?
Jordan ima dobar auto i jos jaceg kompanjona koji im pravi motor,
pa moze svasta da bude! Sto se tice Mclarena iza nji je MECA pa mogu
veoma da iznenade. Mika i David su odlicni vozaci i borci, pa ce sa
ovim novim bolidom uciniti trke mnogo zanimljivijim.
Moje je misljenje da od Ferarija nece biti nista ove sezone, a da ce
sledece da budu najbolji.
Hil je dobar vozac, ali nekako neodlucan i pomalo plasljiv, pa ce za
ovogodisnju titulu da ga vadi samo auto. Vilnev je odlican vozac, gle-
dao sam vecinu trka INDY C., pa moze cudo da napravi.
Naravno ja i dalje navijam za Hila!!
auto-moto.29senna,
Timovi i vozaci F1 za sezonu 1996.
Ferrari
1. Michael Schumacher
2. Eddie Irvine
Benetton Renault
3. Jean Alesi
4. Gerhard Berger
Williams Renault
5. Damon Hill
6. Jacques Villeneuve
McLaren Mercedes
7. Mika Hakkinen
8. David Coulthard
Ligier Mugen-Honda
9. Olivier Panis
10. Pedro Diniz
Jordan Peugeot
11. Rubens Barichello
12. Martin Brundle
Sauber Ford
14. Johnny Herbert
15. Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Footwork Hart
16. Jos Verstappen
17. Riccardo Rosset
Tyrell Yamaha
18. Ukyo Katayama
19. Mika Salo
Minardi Ford
20. Pedro Lamy
21. Takachiho Inoue
Forti Ford
22. Andrea Montermini
23. Luca Badoer
Raspored trka za novu sezonu:
10.03. Australia/Melbourne
31.03. Brasil/Sao Paulo
07.04. Argentina/Buenos Aires
28.04. Europe/Nurnburgring
05.05. San Marino/Imola
19.05. Monaco/Monte Carlo
02.06. Spain/Barcelona
16.06. Canada/Montreal
30.06. France/Magny Cours
14.07. Great Britain/Silverstone
28.07. Germany/Hockenheim
11.08. Hungary/Budapest
25.08. Belgium/Spa Francorchamps
08.09. Italy/Monza
22.09. Portugal/Estoril
13.10. Japan/Suzuka
auto-moto.31senna,
Evo i obecanog teksta o novoj sezoni...
Pocetak ove sezone bice vrlo zanimljiv,timovi na vrhu su
poprilicno izjednaceni, a nova pravila za 1996. su izgleda
bila jedan od znacajnijih faktora u smanjenju razlika izmedju
timova. Veliko razocarenje su slabiji timovi, kojima budzet
ili nije bio dovoljan ni za golo ucestvovanje (Simtek) ili je-
dva omogucava egzistenciju (Forti,Minardi). Ostali se kako ta-
ko snalaze,a treba dosta ocekivati od tzv druge lige (Tyrell,
Jordan,Ligier,Sauber).
Nova staza u Melburnu je na prvi pogled odlicna, ni malo ne
lici na nove stereotipne staze koje se samo stancuju. Krivine
su uglavnom duge i ne preterano ostre, otvaraju se prema izlazu
sto omogucava lagano i ravnomerno ubrzavanje kroz celu krivinu,
posle pocetnog kocenja (nesto kao Ascari i Parabollica u Monci).
Povrsina staze je izuzetno ravna i to bi trebalo da pomogne ti-
movima koji kubure sa ogibljenjem (npr. Dzordan prosle godine).
Australijanci planiraju da dovedu oko 250 000 ljudi na trku,
i svi ocekuju veliki spektakl na pocetku sezone.
Najvece sanse za pobedu svakako ima Williams koji vec vise
godina odrzava kontinuitet sa Hillom kao vozacem i odlicnim Re-
naultovim motorom.Villeneuva svakako ne treba zanemariti,ali
na samom pocetku sezone ne ocekujem da ce biti bolji od Hilla.
Benetton ima problema oko novog bolida,posebno sa novim me-
njacem,ali sam siguran da Flavio zna sta radi i da ce uciniti
sve da i ove sezone uzme titulu. Alesi ce konacno dobiti sansu
da se takmici za pobede makar na priblizno ravnopravnom nivou
i siguran sam da ce uciniti sve da ove godine postane sampion.
Berger ce takodje odraditi svoj posao do maksimuma i njegovo
veliko iskustvo sigurno puno znaci za Benetton.
Ferrari i dalje ima mnogo problema oko novog bolida i samo
ce ih cudo dovesti do ravnopravne borbe sa Williamsom i Bene-
ttonom u prvih nekoliko trka ove sezone. Ako nesto i urade bice
to zbog Schumacherove voznje ili ispadanja ostalih konkurenata.
Irvine je pokopao svoje sanse potpisivanjem ugovora u kome je
jasno definisano da on mora da propusti Schumachera,makar ovaj
bio i sporiji od njega.
McLaren je ove godine brzi nego prethodne,a Hakkinen i Cou-
lthard nisu uopste losa vozacka postava. Najveci problem im je
Mercedesov motor koji je mozda jak,ali je svakako nepouzdan.Na
testovima u Estorilu eksplodiralo im je ukupno 5 motora sto
svakako nije mala cifra. Iako je Hakkinen imao najbrze vreme
na tim testovima ne verujem da ce biti u prednosti u odnosu na
bolide sa Renaultovim motorima.
Jordan nastavlja svoj konstantni uspon i mislim da ce ove
godine mnogo cesce biti u borbi za visoke pozicije. Barichello
je u timu vec nekoliko godina i konacno je blizu borbe za prvu
poziciju,a Brundle je izuzetno iskusan i brz vozac,jedini koji
je ravnopravno vozio sa Schumacherom u Benettonu. Peugeotov
motor konacno je prebrodio probleme sa pouzdanoscu i sigurno
ne zaostaje puno za Renaultom.
Tyrell je bacio svoj proslogodisnji bolid na otpad i napra-
vio novi,po vrlo striktnim paramterima. Ljudi iz Tyrella su
racunali da je klasicna krivina u f1 110-140 km/h u drugom
stepenu prenosa i usredsredili su se da ostvare optimalne pe-
rformanse bolida bas u takvim uslovima. Mika Salo je bio dosta
brz na testovima,a Katayama ima problema sa svojom pozicijom
u bolidu zbog vrlo niskog rasta.
Ligier ovo godine ulazi u fazu konsolidacije i sami su rekli
da ne ocekuju puno ove sezone. Panis je ponovo prvi vozac,a Di-
niz je doveden samo zbog para koje vuce sa sobom (sponzor Parma-
lat).
Sauber ce ove godine imati novi Fordov V10 motor za koga ce
ipak trebati jos mnogo razvoja da bi dostigao konkurenciju.
Herbert ce ovaj put (za razliku od prosle sezone) imati jednak
bolid sa timskom kolegom,pa me bas zanima sta ce uraditi pored
Frentzena.U svakom slucaju ne verujem da ce biti ni gori ni
puno bolji od prosle sezone.
Od ostala tri tima (Footwork,Minardi i Forti) ne treba puno
ocekivati zbog vec pomenutih problema sa finansijama. U tom po-
gledu u najboljoj situaciji je definitivno Footwork a Forti je
na samoj ivici propasti.
Ove godine treba ocekivati i jednu novost: uvodi se mogucnost
timovima da imaju i po tri vozaca na pojedinim trkama. Da li ce
neki tim to iskoristiti ostaje da se vidi. Sto se samog izgleda
bolida tice najprimetniji novi detalj su izdignute ivice kokpita
sa leve i desne strane zbog vece sigurnosti vozaca, a mozda se
do kraja sezone uvede i crna kutija koja bi sluzila iskljucivo
za analiziranje udesa.
Toliko od mene o pocetku nove sezone, ocekujem da ce biti za-
ista zanimljiva i da Schumacher nece opet biti sampion ;).
auto-moto.32obren,
> Ma Hil nema pojma - Kulhard je za njega izmislio voznju
Pa ne bih se složio da baš nema pojma :) Možda nije genije, ali je
dobar vozač. Kultard se ispalio na kraju sezone, ali meni je to
ličilo na pokušaj da se što bolje proda. Imao je nekoliko pol
pozicija, vozio neobuzdano tokom trka i zbog toga često ispadao.
Sada je u McLarenu prvi vozač, pa će imati prilike da se iskaže.
auto-moto.33obren,
> Peugeotov motor konacno je prebrodio probleme sa pouzdanoscu i
> sigurno ne zaostaje puno za Renaultom.
Pročitah u žurnalu podatak da je Džordan prešao 900 krugova bez
ijednog kvara motora! Ne znam kakve su mu performanse, ali mnogo
im znači kada mogu da se oslone na motor. Baričelo je nekoliko
puta ispadao sa odličnih pozicija ne svojom krivicom.
auto-moto.34koky,
Sta je sa rednim brojem 13?
Vidim da ni na eurosportu nisu nikog stavili pod tim brojem.
Dejan
auto-moto.35vpoznanovic,
Hajde da riješimo sve dileme oko dešavanja u pripremnom periodu za novu
sezonu Formule 1. Slijedi integralna verzija vijesti za januar, a odmah
zatim i za februar. Na kraju idu vremena sa testiranja u Barceloni,
Le Castelletu, Estorilu, Jerezu i Maranellu.
STEWART GRAND PRIX JOINS FORMULA ONE
-Coulthard will stay with McLaren-
_________________________________________________________________
January 5, 1996
Jackie Stewart will be returning to Formula One in 1997 as head of
STEWART GRAND PRIX, a team backed by Ford Motor Company. The
three-time world champion will be chairman while his son Paul (PAUL
STEWART RACING: Formula Vauxhall, Formula Three and Formula 3000) will
be on as managing director. The team (with a rumored budget of
$45,000,000 US for the first year) will be using Ford's new Zetek-R
V10 which has kept SAUBER interested in Ford as it's supplier of
engines. Ford will also be involved in electronics, aerodynamics, and
chassis development as it raises its involvement in Formula One. A
spokesman for Ford stated that the new agreement with STEWART will not
affect their commitment with SAUBER.
The team will start looking for drivers this July. Speculation brought
names like Damon Hill, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, and especially fellow
Scot David Coulthard. However, on Friday Coulthard ruled out all
rumors that he would join STEWART GRAND PRIX stating that his contract
with McLaren will run through 1997. He did add that the new team plus
Ford's greater commitment to Formula One will make things even more
exciting for the fans.
Ferrari moves tests; Tyrrell to test soon
_________________________________________________________________
January 5, 1996
Ferrari moves tests
The Ferrari team has announced that the test session planned at the
end of January will be moved up one week. The reason for this, they
say, is that the car isn't ready yet. Schumacher will be testing the
new V-10 engine, which held up and came through the last session
without braking down, at Fiorona (Italy), the home-track of Ferrari
near Imola, from the 5th until the 10th of February.
_________________________________________________________________
Tyrrell to test soon
The Tyrrell Yamaha team will start testing at Silverstone at the 17th
of January. After this test session they will go to Barcelona for
another test period. They will be testing with the old car but with
the new Yamaha engine, the OX11A, and with the new gearbox the Tyrrell
team has developed.
Schumacher to McLaren?
_________________________________________________________________
January 8, 1996
Mercedes-Benz and McLaren want to win races in the 1996-season. After
the ongoing stream of disappointing results the McLaren team want to
improve. They also want to compete in the race for the world
championship tittle, this goal is set for a long time period. For the
championship tittle they want to hire current world champion Michael
Schumacher as soon as his contract with Ferrari expires, in two years
time. It seems 'Schumi' is becoming a sort of 'wonder doctor' for
curing failing Formula One teams in the eyes of the big bosses. Well
we must fist see how the 'doctor' does with Ferrari, maybe he doesn't
even pass his 'medical exams'.
Schumacher pre-tests V-10 Ferrari
_________________________________________________________________
January 9, 1996
Michael Schumacher is testing the new V-10 Ferrari at Le Castellet
(France). The high speed circuit Paul Riccard is extremely suitable
for testing the durability of the new Ferrari engine, because the
engine has to work at his top level for a long time. Several different
computer programs for the electronic control of the engine will be
installed on the Ferrari at this pre-test period before the planned
test program kicks off, in a few weeks time. Schumacher will drive a
complete Grand Prix distance on Wednesday.
Bernie Ecclestone a fortune-teller? Verstappen-Arrows deal still
unsure
_________________________________________________________________
January 10, 1996
Bernie Ecclestone a fortune-teller?
Bernie Ecclestone has said Michael Schumacher can defend his world
champion tittle in the Ferrari in the 1996 season. But the 65 year old
Briton tipped Jacques Villeneuve as a potential candidate for the
tittle. To explain his statement Ecclestone said: "He does exactly
what is necessary, not too much and not too little." He also said it
was better Gerhard Berger retired from Formula One. Has dear old
Bernie become a fortune-teller? Or is it just he needs to retire
instead of Berger?
_________________________________________________________________
Verstappen-Arrows deal still unsure
The Arrows Team is looking for money, not because they are having real
financial problems but because they don't want Taki Inoue as one of
their drivers. Inoue is willing to pay 5 million dollars for a
contract. Arrows would like to see Verstappen and Morbidelli as their
drivers in 1996 so a quest for cash is needed.
A contract for Dutch driver Jos Verstappen is still unsure. The Arrows
team want to release the news concerning the oncoming season all at
once, this also includes which type of engine they are going to use.
Tyrrell signes Katayama; Schumi denies tax-dodging; Premature end
tests Ferrari
_________________________________________________________________
January 11, 1996
Tyrrell signes Katayama
The Tyrrell Yamaha team has signed Ukyo Katayama for next season. The
Team will start testing soon now both drivers are known. Katayama also
drove for the team of Ken Tyrrell in 1995 but he didn't score any
points. His best place was 7th at the Grand Prix of Germany. He
started a total of 15 Grand Prix in 1995 and finished four. Ukyo had a
huge crash at the Grand Prix of Hungary but didn't suffer major
injuries. The best result of his career was a fifth place. His debut
was the Grand Prix of South-Africa in 1992.
Katayama said about his oncoming fourth season in a row with Tyrrell:
"It's a great honour to drive for Ken Tyrrell again. I'm looking
forward at testing the 024 and the new Yamaha-engine." Ken Tyrrell
said about the deal: "We are delighted to continue working with Ukyo.
He was a revelation in 1994 and put in some great performances." With
this seat gone Mark Blundell is almost certain of the end of his
Formula One career for now.
_________________________________________________________________
Schumi denies tax-dodging
Michael Schumacher turns away the latest accusations made of him
dodging taxes. Schumacher had to say about the accusations: "It's an
old case. The villa in the South of France concerned belongs to my
manager Willi Weber." Hopefully he doesn't have anything to do with
it, like he says. We don't like to see another manhunt like German
tennis-star Steffi Graff had to suffer a while ago.
_________________________________________________________________
Premature end tests Ferrari
It was raining cats and dogs at the circuit of Le Castellet (France).
This was the reason why Michael Schumacher had to end the tests
prematurely on Wednesday. The German tried to start the session four
times but with just nine laps driven he was forced to park his Ferrari
in the pits. This was also the case on Thursday. He could now only
drive 44 laps, but the engine worked fine. Because this session was
ended so soon the Ferrari car can't get enough test-miles to start the
new season in Melbourne with a good developed car and engine: "It is
sure we will not end all the races." Schumacher will try to complete
the total Grand Prix distance on Friday. Maybe he has better luck with
the wether then.
Coulthard happy with McLaren; Schumacher thinks Ferrari is OK
_________________________________________________________________
January 12, 1996
Coulthard happy with McLaren
Today, Friday, was the first day David Coulthard could drive his
McLaren-Mercedes after heavy rain all week at the Estoril circuit
(Portugal). He tried out new components on the old chassis together
with Alain Prost. The Scotsman was very happy with the McLaren, he
said: "I'm quite surprised and pleased by the balance of the car."
McLaren are extending testing over the weekend.
_________________________________________________________________
Schumacher thinks Ferrari is OK
Michael Schumacher is satisfied with the V-10 Ferrari after the tests
at Le Castellet (France). He would drive a complete Grand Prix
Distance in the morning but due to have rain this session could not
take place. In the afternoon he could drive 38 laps without having any
problems with the new engine: "Today was not about speed but about
durability. We still have enough time and work before the season
start." He seems to repeat himself again and again. He needs to
realise teams like Williams and Benetton are all about speed and
durability. If Ferrari keeps on going for only the durability they may
miss out on the front rows in the new season.
Schumacher wants more tests
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January 13, 1996
Ferrari-star Michael Schumacher wants to continue testing at Le
Castellet (France) as soon as possible. He believes they need to
improve the V-10 engine further. Most likely is that the tests will
continue on the 22nd of January. Schumacher's words were: "The 420
kilometres has shown that we still lack some power compared to the
Renault."
If the weather would have been better Ferrari could have made more
test kilometres. Now the Ferrari team is hoping for better luck next
time. The more tests they can make the greater the chances are at
winning some Grand Prix in 1996.
Blundell moves to Indycar; Villeneuve fastest in tests; ex-F1 pilot
convicted
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January 15, 1996
Blundell moves to Indycar
Mark Blundell is going to drive Indycars next year. He has signed up
with PacWest Racing Group alongside ex-Formula One driver Mauricio
Gugelmin. Blundell was not offered a seat in Formula One so leaving
Indy Cars as the logical option. Blundell impressed the team in a test
just before Christmas. Blundell commented on his decision: "I'm
looking forward to a new challenge and it's the start of a great
future in Indycar racing. Mark replaced ex-Indycar driver Nigel
Mansell at McLaren in 1995.
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Villeneuve fastest in tests
Jacques Villeneuve leads the tests at Estoril (Portugal) team-mate
Damon Hill. Overnight storms soaked the circuit but Villeneuve could
drive 52 laps in the afternoon. He clocked a best time of 1:21.7. Hill
came to a best time of 1:22.1. Hill drove 8 laps in the morning and
just 27 laps in the afternoon. This is the beginning of serious
testing with the new car for 1996. The McLaren team will start testing
on Tuesday.
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ex-F1 pilot convicted
Ex-Formula One driver Hans Joachim Stuck has been convicted of
tax-dodging between the years '84 and '89 with a fake US company. He
was given a money fine of 350.000 German Marks and a two year jail
sentence. He paid 600.000 Marks to stay out of jail. He also paid the
tax money he owed: a total of 2 million + 1 million Marks fine.
Schumacher and Hill crash; Boullion stays with Williams
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January 16, 1996
Schumacher and Hill crash
Michael Schumacher has wrecked his V-10 Ferrari at a test at the
Ferrari home-track at Fiorano (Italy). He slammed his car into a
guard-rail on his second lap of the day. He damaged the front and
suspension of the Ferrari.
The German later blamed himself for driving too hard on cold tyres on
a section of the track still covered in frost. Schumacher escaped from
the crash without injuries.
Hill also crashed his car in the tests at Estoril (Portugal). He lost
control over his Williams in the long fast and notorious second turn.
His right-hand rear wheel took the punch when the car slammed into the
barriers. Hill completed just 7 laps and was again outpaced by
team-mate Villeneuve. Hill could walk away unhurt.
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Boullion stays on with Williams
Frenchman Jean-Christophe Boullion will continue to be the test driver
for the Williams team. Williams have confirmed this.
Boullion lost his place with Sauber to Johnny Herbert.
Jean-Christophe will start testing later this week with the team at
Estoril (Portugal). "It's important to have continuity at all levels,"
said team-boss Frank Williams. But why didn't he want to keep
Coulthard?
Hill spins-off again; New sponsor Schumacher
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January 17, 1996
Hill spins-off again
Hill crashed his Williams on the second day running. He went off at
the S-bend of the Estoril circuit during the dry morning session of
the test program Williams is doing there. Hill's Williams was towed
back to the pits with scuffed front tires. Damon was again unhurt.
Jaqcues Villeneuve was again fastest. He clocked a best time of
1:21.14. Hill drove a best time of 1:21.17.
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New sponsor Schumacher
Schumacher has signed a contract with Nike as his personal sponsor.
This was announced by his manager Willie Weber. The contract is for
four years with the possibility of a renewal. Schumacher will receive
10 to 15 million dollars and he will wear a special Nike shoe during
the new season.
Hill fastest in testing; Hill favourite WC tittle 1996 according to
Eddie Jordan; Frentzen in new Sauber
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Thursday January 18, 1996
Hill fastest in testing
After spinning of twice in the previous days Hill was now fastest in
the tests at Estoril (Portugal). He clocked a best time of 1:20.77,
his team-mate, Villeneuve, was 0.21 seconds slower than Hill and
test-driver for Williams, Jean Christophe Boullion was 0.01 faster
than Villeneuve. Boullion drove a total 34 laps. Martin Brundle didn't
came that far. The engine of his Jordan stopped after just six laps.
Martin drove a best time of 1:26.24. Ex-team-mate of Hill, David
Coulthard, clocked a fastest time of 1:23.33 (22 laps).
The new Jordan V-10 Peugeot has a raised nose like the one on the
Benetton.
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Hill favourite WC tittle 1996 according to Eddie Jordan
Michael Schumacher will not be world champion in 1996 again according
to Eddie Jordan. He said: "The most important factor this season is
reliability. That's why Schumacher will not be able to defend his
tittle." Hill is the favourite for Eddie. And he predicted that
Brundle will be 'the surprise'.
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Frentzen in new Sauber
H.H. Frentzen has tested the new Sauber-Ford V10, the C15, today at Le
Castellet (France). He drove a total of 40 laps during the morning
session in the for the time being totally black car. The new V10
engine from Ford kept up. This was the first real 'drive' for the new
V10. The new technology on the car also came through the test without
problems.
Frentzen tests new Sauber again; Schumacher wants to move to
Switzerland
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Friday January 19, 1996
Frentzen tests new Sauber again
It is going OK for Frentzen in the new Sauber-Ford. He tested the new
car again on the circuit of Le Castellet (France) today. Even though
the C15 was totally taken apart last night the car clocked the same
lap times of yesterday. Frentzen drove a total of 60 laps without
problems.
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Schumacher wants to move to Switzerland
Michael Schumacher wants a bigger house and more quiet surroundings.
This is the reason why he wants to move to Switzerland. This is also
the reason why he has spend so much time in the villa of his manager
Willie Weber, in the south of France. His spokesman, Heiner Buchinger,
said: "He is being harassed by tourists in Monte Carlo." The most
likely location is near the Genter Lake.
Well he has got the money.
Minardi sign Lamy; Lauda stays with Ferrari
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Sunday January 21, 1996
Minardi sign Lamy
The Minardi team have signed Pedro Lamy as their first driver. The
contract is for one year, according to Lamy's manager Domingos
Piedade. Lamy was the first Portuguese driver ever to get a world
championship point in Formula One. This was during the last Grand Prix
of 1995, the GP of Australia, also with the Minardi team.
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Lauda stays with Ferrari
Niki Lauda will stay with Ferrari in 1996. He has made a deal for one
year with the chef of Ferrari, Luca di Montezemolo. After a year of
speculations whether Lauda would stay with Ferrari it is finally
clear. Laude said for the Austrian television on Saturday: " I will
not visit many Grand Prix but overall it will stay the same."
Introduction of the 'idiot test' and metal brakes?
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Tuesday January 23, 1996
The FIA wants the drivers to take a driving exam next year. The exam
will test a drivers knowledge of rules and emergency procedures in
order to decrease the number of possible accidents. The test will
contain multiple-choice questions on: flags, safety cars, prematurely
ended races and what to do in the event of a spin causing the car to
be pointed in the wrong direction. Martin Brundle called it an 'idiot
test'.
The FIA is looking to reintroduce metal brakes to replace the
currently used carbon fibre, which in the opinion of the FIA are just
too good. The old steel discs had associated wear problems, often
running out before the end of the race. The carbon fibre brakes have
be accused in the past of spoiling the possibility of drivers
out-braking each other, by reducing the braking distances to a minium.
The cars in the IndyCar series run steel brakes on road courses only.
The steel brakes may be re-introduced with the aim of increasing the
brake distances, therefore increasing the opportunity to pass. The
steel brake option had been submited to the Technical Working group
last year. However trials with Damon Hill in 1995 in a steel-clad FW17
yielded the quickest time of the day in testing. Patrick Head said
there was no noticeable difference in the braking distances, and Damon
Hill said he liked the feel of the steel brakes.
Williams may be charged with death Senna; Stewart goes Asia; Ferrari
not happy with weather at tests; Head thinks Hill has the best changes
for WC in 1996; Roundup
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Tuesday January 25, 1996
Williams may be charged with death Senna
The public prosecution office in Italy wants to charge Frank Williams
for the death of Ayrton Senna, who got killed at Imola on May 1 1994
possible due to a badly welded steering rod. The Italian judicature
holds Williams responsible. Williams could stand trail for
manslaughter.
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Stewart goes Asia
Ex-Formula One world champion Jackie Stewart is seeking sponsorship
for his Formula One team, which will start competing in 1997, in Asia.
He already had talks with a Malaysian consortium. The Singapore
property and hotel group were 'very interested' he said. Stewart also
wants to go to Thailand, the Philippines, Japan and Taiwan to seek
finance for his team. Stewart added: "I would like to have at least
one British company, one North American company and two from the Asian
basin."
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Ferrari not happy with weather at tests
The Ferrari tests at Le Castellet were prematurely cancelled today due
to bad weather conditions. Michael Schumacher could drive the planned
laps in the beginning of the afternoon in the new V-10, but he
couldn't test the new engine to the full. Despite the rain he was
satisfied with the tests which will now be prolonged by his team-mate
Eddie Irvine.
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Head thinks Hill has the best changes for WC in 1996
Patrick Head believes Hill has the best chances of winning the world
championship tittle in 1996. Head said: "It's probably his best
chance, I would say." He also added: "I feel Damon can do it even if
Williams new signing Jacques Villeneuve is taking points off him. But
that is a problem within the team that we will address later. At
Williams, we always allow the drivers to race against one another at
the start of the season before assessing the situation." But Frank
Williams was not so sure: "It's too early to say but we are very
satisfied that we have the strongest driving line-up and if there are
no serious problems we will be satisfied that we can be fully
competitive." Head also added they would need to work on the pitstops.
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Roundup
According to this weeks Autosport Keith Wiggins, boss of Pacific Grand
Prix, is heading chassis maker LOLA's F1 project with a view to enter
in 1997.
Wiggins will be running in this years International F3000
Championship.
Forti will use the FG01 (the 1995 season chassis) for the first 3
Grands Prix of the season. The old chassis will be upgraded to meet
the new safety and technical regulations and will be replaced when the
new chassis is ready.
Andrea Montermini is said to be having problems raising the funding
for a Forti drive in 1996. The team is still talking to Hideki Noda
about 1996.
Ricardo Rosset is expected to sign for Arrows alongside Jos Verstappen
for the 1996 season. Although Taki Inoue was presumed to have the seat
it seems that the new qualifying rule may have tipped the balance.
Ferrari will launch the new Formula 1 car for the 1996 World
Championship on February 10th at Maranello, the home-circuit of
Ferrari at Fiorano (Italy).
Schumacher unsure about Ferrari Release Date; Ferrari ends tests at Le
Castellet
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Saturday January 27, 1996
Schumacher unsure about Ferrari Release Date
Ferrari said the new car will be presented on February 10th but
Michael Schumacher is not so sure. He said at a press conference at
the Indykart-Cup in the Schleyer Halle in Stuttgart (Germany): "I hope
the new car will be ready mid February." Schumacher is present at this
event just 'for fun'. He will be competing against drivers like: Karl
Wendlinger, Christian Danner and Ellen L÷hr.
Schumacher had to park his kart beside the track due to a technical
fault only twelve laps before the end of the race. Schumacher was
leading. Formula Three driver Wolf Henzer won the race.
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Ferrari ends tests at Le Castellet
Ferrari has concluded their test program at Le Castellet (France)
today. Ferrari had suffered bad weather conditions all week. Eddie
Irvine drove with the same evolution V-10 engine, the most recent, as
Schumacher had done earlier this week, on Friday and Saturday. This
was again on a wet track without having any real problems. Irvine
drove a total of 360 km. After the tests Irvine had to say: "I am very
happy with these two days at Le Castellet. There was a huge
improvement in the engine: it is more and more driveable and
powerful."
Arrows confirms Verstappen; New Ligier Presented
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Monday January 29, 1996
Arrows confirms Verstappen
The Arrows team has confirmed that Dutch driver Jos Verstappen will
drive their first car at least in 1996. The team will present the
whole team on February 13 at Silverstone (England). Verstappen has
said that Ricardo Rosset would have the 5 million dollars needed for
the second seat. Money was the biggest problem for Verstappen, he
didn't have enough to buy himself into a team, even with sponsors like
Philips Car Systems and Marlboro, but because he did an outstanding
job at the Arrows test session at Estoril (Portugal), he was about 3
seconds faster than the fastest driver at Arrows did last year, he got
himself a seat.
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New Ligier Presented
The new Ligier JS 43 and the drivers: Panis and Diniz were presented
today to the press in Monaco. Panis prolongs his contract with the
team while Diniz drove with the Forti team last year. The team
director, Walkinshaw, stated: "We want to get into the top three of
the best Constructor in the next three years." The Ligier will be
powered by Mugen-Honda V-10, just like last year.
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Schumacher has won the Indykart-Cup in the Schleyer Halle in Stuttgart
(Germany). After having technical problems on Saturday he was able to
put everything right in the final on Sunday.
Safety in F1; Jordan
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Tuesday January 30, 1996
Safety in F1
Black boxes, like the ones used on aeroplanes, will be installed on
Formula One cars in 1997, but Max Mosley added they could be used on
experimental bases this year. The FIA have agreed with the teams that
the information will only be used in case of accident. Accidents, like
the one Ayrton Senna had, can be resolved sooner and measures can be
taken to prevent other crashes. The FIA also wants a code by the
European Commission saying all accidents should be investigated.
There will be no airbags in Formula One cars because the cockpit is
simply too small. But the research is continuing, also some
alternatives, like collapsible steering columns, are looked at.
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Jordan
Jordan are putting a brave face on prospects even when the tests
didn't go as well as they wanted.
Barrichello and Brundle complained of basic handling problems of the
new Jordan during the tests last week at Estoril (Portugal).
High hopes for new Tyrrell
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Wednesday January 31, 1996
Tyrrell have launched their new car with which they are confident of
winning GPs this season with their drivers Salo and Katayama. Tyrell's
engineering boss, Dr. Harvey Postlethwaite, said they are certain the
all-new Tyrrell Yamaha 024 will be a big improvement on last year's
car.
"We set ourselves a lot of tough technical targets and we have carried
out intensive tests to ensure we achieve them."
The new car is especially designed for the circuits on this year's
Grand Prix calendar. The car, powered by an ultra-compact 3 litre
V-10650 bhp OX11A engine made by Yamaha, will have a new chassis, six
speed gearbox and suspension. Almost the entire car has been designed
at the Surrey headquarters.
"We analysed the characteristics of all the circuits hosting a Grand
Prix and it was very enlightening," Postlethwaite added.
"The most common motor racing corner is a second gear 75 mph corner
and we have to design a car which loves that bend."
Tyrrell will start testing the all new car at Estoril (Portugal) next
week.
auto-moto.36vpoznanovic,
Tyrrell tests new car
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Thursday February 1, 1996
Tyrrell have tested their new 1996 car, the 024, at Brands Hatch Indy
circuit today. The 024 covered 47 laps in this test day prior to the
intensive three day session planned at Estoril (Portugal) next week.
The car came through the test faultless. Mika Salo was the first to
test the new car, he said: "The engine felt super-good. That's all I
can say for now - first impressions."
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An Italian news paper reported that Montermini will drive for Forti
this season.
Hakkinen update; Ferrari at Le Castellet
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Saturday February 3, 1996
Hakkinen update
It still remains to be seen if Hakkinen can drive for McLaren this
season. He still hasn't fully recovered from his crash at the Adelaide
Grand Prix last year. His eye-sight is still not optimal according to
ex-Formula One driver Michele Alborato. He said: "I don't think he is
able to drive." McLaren didn't want to make any comments.
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Ferrari at Le Castellet
The weather was again bad at Le Castellet but Irvine could drive 43
laps on Friday. He worked on the setup and electronics of his new
Ferrari and drove a best time of 1:20.84. Schumacher started a
complete race distance on Saturday when the track had dried up. But he
spun off after 59 laps because of an electrical problem. When the
problem was fixed it was too late to continue the session. He will try
again on Sunday.
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The French have decided that the French Grand Prix will be held at Le
Castellet, Paul Ricard, starting in 1997. 1996 will be the last year
at Magny Cours. The FIA only needs to approve this decision.
Ferrari last day at Le Castellet
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Sunday February 4, 1996
Michael Schumacher covered 80 of the planned 81 laps, a Grand Prix
distance, on a dry track with sunny weather, when the telemetry warned
the engine was loosing power. The Ferrari team decided to bring the
car into the pits to check what was wrong. Schumacher tested the
electronics of a new V-10 engine in the afternoon. Schumacher covered
a total of 307 km with a best time of 1:07.60. Barrichello came to a
1:08.80. Panis drove 100 laps and clocked a best time of 1:08.94.
Hakkinen's first drive; Briatore
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Monday February 5, 1996
Hakkinen's first drive
Hakkinen drove his McLaren-Mercedes today -- Michele Alborato was
wrong for saying Mika was not able to drive (Feb. 2). Mika stepped
into his McLaren at Le Castellet and clocked a best time of 1:07.09.
This was the first time, after 87 days since his coma, could Hakkinen
drive again. A McLaren official said: "Mika has made a remarkable
recovery and this is a test just to see how he feels about driving,"
If all goes well he will test the new McLaren at Estoril (Portugal)
next week.
Villeneuve and Frentzen were testing at Estoril. Villeneuve drove a
best lap of 1:38.68 with 39 laps and Frentzen came to a best of
1:41.54 with 22 laps.
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Briatore
Benetton team-boss Flavio Briatore is quoted as saying that Ferrari
should be the favourite for the World Championship title this year.
Flavio's reasoning came from his experience and faith in Michael
Schumacher's ability.
Inoue signs for Minardi; Williams at Estoril
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Tuesday February 6, 1996
Inoue signs for Minardi
The Italian Formula One team Minardi announced today that Taki Inoue
has signed for the 1996 season. Inoue, who drove for the Arrows team
last year, will make his debut with the team on February 14 at Estoril
(Portugal) when the new car will be presented. The Japanese driver
will team-up with Pedro Lamy who is Minardi's leading pilot.
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Williams at Estoril
Williams-Renault ended their four day test session at Estoril
(Portugal) today with Jacques Villeneuve. They used the 1995 car (FW
017) and the new Renault-Engine. Villeneuve clocked a best time of
1:21.50. Williams will be returning at Estoril next week with the new
1996 car.
New Sauber Presented; Ferrari
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Thursday February 8, 1996
New Sauber Presented
The new Sauber-Ford C15 was presented in Switzerland with the drivers:
Heinz-Harald Frentzen and Johnny Herbert. Frentzen is looking toward
the future with high hopes, he said at the presentation: "I want to
win my first Grand Prix this year." The goal of the team is to reach
the number five spot of the constructor championship this season.
Johhny Herbert wants to beat Michael Schumacher in 1996. Johnny said:
"It would be an extra special kick if I could beat Michael. Michael is
not unbeatable. And it would hopefully make people think that I am as
good as they thought I was before I went to Benetton." Herbert wasn't
very happy about last year, eventhough he won two Grands Prix: "It was
a very frustrating season last year and I can't say I enjoyed it. But
I am looking forward to this one."
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Ferrari
Eddie Irvine and Nicola Larini tested the electronics of the Ferrari,
with the V-12 engine, at Ferrari's home-track at Fiorano (Italy)
yesterday. Irvine clocked a best time of 1:02.071 and Larini came to a
best of 1:02.081.
A new date has been set for the presentation of the new 1996 Ferrari,
it will be February 15 at Maranello.
Arrows
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Friday February 9, 1996
The same news agency which stated Jos Verstappen was sure of a seat
with the Arrows-team now stated that the main sponsor of Verstappen
still can't reach an agreement with the team of how much money will be
paid. The presentation date of the team, next Tuesday, is postponed.
Verstappen is still the most likely candidate for a seat in an Arrows
car.
The Arrows team is not easily getting the budget together for this
season, they are suffering financial difficulties. Arrows is not the
only team with a not so gloom financial state, Ligier too has to
complete this year with only half the budget they had last season.
Ferrari at Fiorano
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Saturday February 10, 1996
Ferrari ended their testsession at Ferrari's hometrack at Maranello
today. Eddie Irvine tested new electronic components which will be
placed on the new car. A new V10 tuned-up engine was used. Irvine
drove a total of 400 km with a best time of 1:02.41.
New McLaren
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Sunday February 11, 1996
Mika Hakkinen said at the presentation of the new McLaren-Mercedes, at
Estoril (Portugal), he has a goal for this season: winning races.
Alain Prost tested the new McLaren with the Mercedes V10 engine at
Estoril yesterday. He drove 35 laps without having technical
difficulties and came to a best of 1:23.5. Gerhard Berger was just
slightly slower with a fastest time of 1:23.9 in the new
Benetton-Renault. But fastest of the day was Katayama in the all new
Tyrrell-Yamaha with 1:22.31.
New Williams Presented
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Monday February 12, 1996
Villeneuve said, at the presentation of the new Williams-Renault, the
FW 018, that Hill should not expect any favours this year. He also
said Hill could be the most important scalp in his first Grand prix
season. "We 're not out there to help each other and there's no reason
to."
"In anyone's career it is important to win and beat everyone else."
Hill only said it is probably going to be an exciting year. The
aerodynamics of the new Williams have been improved over last year.
Hill ends in gravel
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Tuesday February 13, 1996
Damon Hill went off the soaking-wet Estoril (Portugal) track with his
new Williams, one day after its presentation, during today's test
session. The brakes on the FW 18 failed in a curve resulting in Hill
ending up in the gravel. Hill walked away unhurt. This accident ended
his test session after completing 30 laps with a fastest time of
1:36.53. The test-sessions of all the teams at Estoril were cut short
due to rain showers.
Alain Prost could only drive four laps in the new MP 4/11 and came to
a best of: 1:42.18. Alesi and Berger didn't set any times.
New Minardi; No tests for Frentzen
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Wednesday February 14, 1996
New Minardi
Again not so bright weather conditions at Estoril (Portugal) where
Minardi presented their 1996 car and the drivers Pedro Lamy and Taki
Inoue. Lamy did 39 laps in the new car and came to a best of 1:24.64,
this was with the 1995 Ford engine in the back. Alain Prost posted a
1:23.21 in the McLaren-Mercedes. But fastest today was Damon Hill with
1:22.33 in his new Williams-Renault.
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No tests for Frentzen
Frentzen could not continue testing the new Sauber C15 at the
Barcelona (Spain) track. Frentzen did try to complete the tests but
his neck was just too sore. He had made an unfortunate move with his
neck and sprained a muscle. It is expected that Frentzen can't drive
his car until Friday.
New Ferrari Presented; Hill fastest at Estoril; New Arrows
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Thursday February 15, 1996
New Ferrari Presented
The new 1996 Ferrari was presented today at Ferrari's home-track at
Maranello (Italy). The new car is called the F 310. The presentation
of the new car was delayed because of problems with the required crash
tests and aerodynamics. Michael Schumacher, team-mate of Eddie Irvine,
said: "It would be great to win some races this season." He again
ruled out any chances for him to compete in the race for the 1996
championship: "I'm not playing down my chances, but I have to be
realistic, we are starting something new here." Schumacher also added:
"I felt quite empty after spending four and a half years at Benetton -
We'd achieved everything together. But I have plenty of motivation
now. I needed a new challenge and I've got that here."
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Hill fastest at Estoril
Damon Hill took advantage of the brighter weather at Estoril
(Portugal) and clocked the fastest time of the day: 1:21.62 in his new
Williams-Renault. Alesi and Berger followed in their new
Benetton-Renaults with 1:22.40 and 1:22.24. Fifth fastest was Rubens
Barrichello, who is getting his pace again in the new Jordan-Peugeot,
with 1:22.59, but it took him 67 laps to Hill's 27. Hakkinen come in
with a nice fourth place with 1:22.55.
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New Arrows
Dutch driver Jos Verstappen was very happy with the new Arrows. The
car held up well in bad weather conditions at the test at Silverstone
(England). Ricardo Rosset was also very pleased. Verstappen said in an
interview he will be at the start of the Australian Grand Prix, next
month, in an Arrows. Verstappen and Rosset will test the new Arrows at
Estoril next week. Verstappen said the official presentation of the
team is most likely to be held at the end of next week's test-session
in London (England). The new car didn't bare many sponsors, Verstappen
stated there were still some sponsor contracts to be signed, he
himself was now sponsored by Exact Software and not (yet) by Philips
Car Systems, but he wouldn't give any clarity about this. Jos
Verstappen knows Ricardo Rosset from his days in the Opel Lotus
series, Verstappen said Rosset was behind hind as well as in front of
him, this is very nice according to Verstappen: "Competition within a
team is very good, it keeps you awake."
Hill for World Champion; Roundup
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Friday February 16, 1996
Hill for World Champion
Damon Hill thinks he can be the next World Champion after Schumacher.
Being frustrated by Michael all this time he now thinks he can do it:
"Every season you think you have the best chance of winning the
championship. But, after four years, I now have a lot of experience
and I firmly believe I can win it this season." Hill also said: "All I
am worried about is my own performance. I am not really looking at the
competition and what they are up to. I do not fear Schumacher and I
will be fighting for the championship the same as everyone else."
Even though Villeneuve said he is not going to help Hill in any way
this year Hill said: "We all start with zero points and as long as we
both score within the team, it will rob other drivers of the chance to
win the championship. It's good to have Villeneuve here."
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Roundup
Eddie Irvine thinks Michael Schumacher can become the Formula One
World Champion for the third time: "Schumacher can become World
Champion if the new Ferrari is good. He can expect total support from
me." He also repeated a team order by stating if Schumacher is behind
me and closing in I will let go by.
The 17 races of the 1995 Formula One season have been watched by a
total of 45.000.000.000 people, this was announced by the FIA today.
For comparison: the World Championship soccer last year for viewed by
32 billion people. The Grands Prix were broadcasted in a total of 201
counties.
Schumacher tests F 310
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Sunday February 18, 1996
Michael Schumacher was not able to test the new F 310 Ferrari until
the afternoon, the new car had an oil leak in the gearbox in the test
-session after its presentation. The repairs were scheduled for one
day, so postponing the planned tests. In this session Schumacher
completed 33 laps with an almost full load of fuel, he set a best time
of 1:04.44. Schumacher will continue testing the new V10 in the old
chassis, the 412 T2, at Estoril (Portugal) starting next Wednesday.
Michael Schumacher and team-mate Eddie Irvine have got two F 310 each
at their disposal.
Testing
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Monday February 19, 1996
Frentzen is becoming more and more relaxed in the new Sauber-Ford. He
was over a second faster than his new team-mate, ex-Benetton driver
Johnny Herbert, who is not getting his pace in the new car, at the
tests at the Barcelona (Spain) circuit. Frentzen said after the test:
"The new car with the V10 engine from Ford has got a lot of
potential."
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Verstappen's sponsorship problems are almost solved, he will bring
five sponsors into the Arrows-Hart team. He will start testing the new
car together with team-mate Ricardo Rosset at Estoril (Portugal) this
week.
Martin Brundle was fastest today at Estoril, Hill was second after
being number one for days.
Ferrari tests
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Tuesday February 20, 1996
The Ferrari tests at Fiorano (Italy), planned yesterday, were
cancelled because the oil-leak in the gearbox was still not solved
completely. This causes the schedule of the forthcoming tests to
change. Schumacher will test the new V10 engine in the 412 T2 car at
Estoril (Portugal) today and tomorrow. He will check out the F 310 on
Thursday at Fiorano. If all is well then Schumacher and Irvine will
start testing the new car at Estoril starting next Friday.
Martin Brundle was, just like yesterday, fastest at the testing at
Estoril with a best time of 1:21.17. He was followed by his team-mate
Barrichello with 1:21.19. This was during the morning session. The
problems with the new Jordan are solved. Hill, who came in third
during the moring, took the fastest time from Brundle with a best of
1:21.10. Michael Schumacher came to a best of 1:22.55 when the new V10
engine in the 412 T2 failed. Schumacher said that if all goes well
from now on they have just three days of testing left.
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It has been announced that Dutchman Jos Verstappen and Brazilian
Ricardo Rosset, ex Formula 3000 driver, will sign with Arrows
tomorrow, when the tests of the new car start at Estoril. The team
have confirmed the two drivers today making tomorrow's signing just a
formality.
Barrichello sets new test record
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Wednesday February 21, 1996
Mika Hakkinen posted the fastest time of 1996 on the day Verstappen
made his comeback into Formula One with the Arrows-Hart team in the
morning session. Hakkinen broke Damon Hill's testing record, set
yesterday (1:21.10), with a 1:20.87. Hill came in close behind the Fin
with 1:20.95. But Rubens Barrichello did an astonishing 1:19.93,
leaving the Benneton of Berger behind him with 1:20.50 and all the
rest. Dutch driver Verstappen came in behind Katayama in the Tyrrell
(1:23.06) with 1:23.53. Salo, in the other Tyrrell, posted a best time
of 1:21.91.
The Arrows team has now Philips as their new sponsor. Michael
Schumacher could not drive the 412 T2 Ferrari in the morning session
because of problems with the V10 engine and the gearbox. A new V10 was
flown in from Fiorano in the afternoon. Schumacher did 22 laps under
race conditions to set up his car for the long run planned tomorrow.
Eddie Irvine will test the new F 310 Ferrari at Fiorano (Italy) on
Thursday.
Tests at Estoril
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Thursday February 22, 1996
The problems the Benetton team had seem to be over. Berger was second
yesterday and Alesi was second today with a 1:20.26. But at the top
was Mika Hakkinen in the McLaren he posted a best time of 1:19.65, a
new testing record. Verstappen did very well, he improved almost two
seconds over yesterday's time (1:21.92). It also went very well with
Michael Schumacher today, he drove the planned Grand Prix distance.
The new V10, in the 412 T2 chassis, did a total of 453 km with a best
of 1:21.08. It only had a bad ending: when he drove into his pitbox
the car caught fire but major damage could be prevented because the
firemen were very close.
Irvine tested the F 310 at Fiorano (Italy) and did 51 laps with a best
of 1:03.28. The new car will be flown to Estoril tonight.
Magny-Cours in 1997; Estoril; Roundup
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Friday February 23, 1996
Magny-Cours in 1997
The Grand Prix of France will be held at Magny-Cours in 1997. It was
decided by the French, some weeks ago, that the Grand Prix would
return to Le Castellet (Paul Ricard) for five years from next year,
but there was already an agreement between the FOCA and Magny-Cours
for 1997. The officials at Paul Ricard said: "Bernie Ecclestone
informed us that an agreement has already been made with Magny-Cours."
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Estoril
Schumacher tested the new F 310, flown over from Italy last night, at
Estoril (Portugal) but could only drive a total of five laps because
the fuel pump broke down, he drove a best time of 1:23.23.
Schumacher's time is running out before the start of the new season.
Verstappen could only drive 8 laps because the support of the rear
wing broke.
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Roundup
Schumacher is most likely going to make an appearance in this year's
ITC (touringcar) championship in an Alfa. He will start at
NŘrnburgring or at Hockenheim. Names like: Alain Prost and Nigel
Mansell are also mentioned.
The Italian Luca Badoer has signed with the Forti-Ford team, filling
the last seat for the 1996 season.
Schumacher will continue testing new car at Fiorano
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Sunday February 25, 1996
Schumacher had no troubles with the new F 310 Ferrari at Estoril
(Portugal) yesterday. He completed the planned 71 laps. A second F 310
was made in the factory at Maranello (Italy) for Eddie Irvine on
Saturday, he has tested it at Fiorano today. Schumacher was not so
fortunate in today's session: the tests were stopped due to heavy
rain. Schumacher drove 14 laps on a dry track with a best of 1:23.83
and 20 on a wet circuit of the planned Grand Prix distance. The tests
will continue at Maranello because of bad weather forecasts at
Estoril. Schumacher said after the today's tests: "The new Ferrari
felt more gentle than the Benetton did last year."
Elf presents teams in Paris; Estoril times
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Monday February 26, 1996
Elf presents teams in Paris
Elf have presented their teams in Paris (France) today (e.g. Benetton,
Ligier, Williams). Alesi was happy with the way the tests went at
Estoril (Portugal) with the all new Benetton-Renault. He said there
were some minor problems but everything is now under control and that
they are ready for the first Grand Prix. Hill also showed his optimism
about the tests: " I had a good time, the car went well and the engine
was great." The new Williams has improved aerodynamics, resulting in
more down-force thus a better grip, over last year's car. Damon Hill's
team-mate Jacques was not so very optimistic he said that the
competition with their all new cars have closed the gap the Williams
car had last year.
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Estoril times
The tests are over at Estoril so now a list of the fastest test-times
of 1996 can be made up:
1. 02-22 Hakkinen McLaren MP4/11 1:19.65
2. 02-23 Villeneuve Williams FW 18 1:19.85
3. 02-13 Berger Benetton B196 1:19.90
4. 02-12 Barrichello Jordan 196P 1:19.93
5. 02-22 Alesi Benetton B196 1:20.26
6. 02-21 Salo Tyrrell 024 1:20.45
7. 02-21 Hill Williams FW 18 1:20.95
8. 02-22 Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V10 1:21.08
9. 02-21 Brundle Jordan 196P 1:21.17
10. 02-24 Schumacher Ferrari F 310 1:21.61
11. 02-22 Panis Ligier JS43 1:21.78
12. 02-23 Coulthard McLaren MP4/11 1:21.86
13. 02-22 Verstappen Footwork FA17 1:21.93
14. 02-10 Katayama Tyrrell 024 1:22.30
15. 02-02 Frentzen Sauber C15 1:22.68
16. 02-11 Prost McLaren MP4/11 1:22.91
17. 02-14 Lamy Minardi M15B 1:23.09
18. 02-21 Diniz Ligier JS43 1:23.53
19. 02-21 Rosset Footwork FA17 1:24.49
20. 02-04 Herbert Sauber C15 1:25.48
Schumacher bets on Hill; Irvine tests second F 310
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Tuesday February 27, 1996
Schumacher bets on Hill
Michael Schumacher has again named Damon Hill the favourite for this
year's World Championship tittle today: "Williams have, just like in
1995, the best car. Even if everything goes well at Ferrari we still
miss half a second to the top." He also stated that his fellow German
Heinz-Harald Frentzen will have his first victory this year.
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Irvine tests second F 310
Time is running out for Ferrari before the new Season starts. Eddie
Irvine has tested the second F 310, manufactured just last week, at
Fiorano (Italy). He clocked a fastest time of 1:03.22, an improvement
of 0.06 over the fastest time set in the F 310 at Maranello. Irvine
will continue testing this car tomorrow. Schumacher and Irvine will
test the cars for the Australian Grand Prix next Thursday and Friday
before the cars are flown to Melbourne.
Bridgestone; Irvine tests third F 310
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Wednesday February 28, 1996
Bridgestone
Bridgestone wants to supply up to four teams from 1998 with their
Formula One tires. They have been developing them since 1989. Now only
Goodyear supply the Formula One tires.
_________________________________________________________________
Irvine tests third F 310
Irvine has tested the third F 310 today, the one he will drive in
Melbourne (Australia), He did 14 laps and clocked a best time of
1:03.24. Schumacher will test his F 310 and the T-car tomorrow. All
three cars will be flown to Australia on Saturday.
New sponsor Jordan; Schumacher in F 310; Super licence
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Thursday February 29, 1996
The cigarette company Benson and Hedges are going to sponsor the
Jordan-Peugeot team this season. Eddie Jordan said about the new
sponsorship: "It is a major breakthrough for us to secure a new title
sponsor." The distinctively all gold Jordan car will carry the Benson
and Hedges livery. Eddie Jordan also said that the Jordan team now
have as much finance as the top teams. The Jordan drivers, Brundle and
Barrichello, will test the new Jordan at Silverstone before the cars
are flown to Australia on Friday.
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Schumacher in F 310
Schumacher has tested his race car for the Australian Grand Prix today
at Maranello (Italy), he came to a best of 1:03.38 (28 laps). He also
did two laps in his T car and three pit-stop simulations. Irvine will
test his race car tomorrow.
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Super licence
The disagreement about the Super licence between Max Mosley and the
Formula One drivers has been settled. The dispute was about a passage
saying the driver was charged with the damage done in case of an
accident. It was resolved in a telephone meeting between Mosley and
the Formula One drivers: Berger, Schumacher and Brundle.
auto-moto.37vpoznanovic,
Formula One Test-Times
Barcelona, Spain (1995 Pole: Michael Schumacher 1:21.452)
4,727 Km
(fastest test-time: Damon Hill 1:21.03 (FW 17))
Saturday, February 17 1996
Frentzen 1:23.32
Wednesday, December 20 1995
Hill 1:21.14
Tuesday, December 19 1995
Hill 1:21.03
Alesi 1:22.55
Panis 1:23.05
Diniz 1:24.13
Montermini 1:29.09
Monday, December 18 1995
Villeneuve 1:21.69
Le Castellet, France
(fastest test-time: Mika Hakkinen 1:07.09 (MP 4/10))
Monday, February 5 1996
Hakkinen 1:07.09
Sunday, February 4 1996
Schumacher 1:07.60
Barrichello 1:08.80
Panis 1:08.94
Diniz 1:09.80
Saturday, February 3 1996
Barrichello 1:07.95
Schumacher 1:09.29
Panis 1:09.29
Diniz 1:11.60
Friday, February 2 1996 (wet)
Barrichello 1:20.50
Irvine 1:20.84
Panis 1:21.50
Diniz 1:27.90
Tuesday, January 9 1996
Schumacher 1:10.31
Estoril, Portugal (1995 Pole: David Coulthard 1:20.537)
2.709 Miles
(fastest test-time in 1996 car: Mika Hakkinen 1:19.65)
Sunday, February 25 1996
Schumacher 1:23.83 (34)
Saturday, February 24 1996
Schumacher 1:21.61 (71)
Coulthard 1:22.20 (60)
Friday, February 23 1996
Villeneuve 1:19.85 (60)
Berger 1:19.90 (58)
Alesi 1:20.56 (9)
Coulthard 1:21.86 (49)
Schumacher 1:23.23 (5)
Verstappen 1:23.27 (8)
Rosset 1:24.49 (21)
Thursday, February 22 1996
Hakkinen 1:19.65 (44)
Alesi 1:20.26 (31)
Salo 1:20.45 (16)
Villeneuve 1:20.54 (58)
Berger 1:20.76 (26)
Schumacher 1:21.08 (79)
Panis 1:21.78 (12)
Brundle 1:21.72 (21)
Barrichello 1:21.91 (57)
Verstappen 1:21.93 (18)
Katayama 1:23.99 (51)
Wednesday, February 21 1996
Barrichello 1:19.93 (34)
Berger 1:20.50 (31)
Hakkinen 1:20.87 (34)
Hill 1:20.95 (40)
Villeneuve 1:21.10 (80)
Salo 1:21.33 (55)
Brundle 1:21.64 (85)
Schumacher 1:21.66 (22)
Alesi 1:21.86 (12)
Katayama 1:23.06 (34)
Diniz 1:23.43 (43)
Verstappen 1:23.53 (18)
Rosset 1:25.90 (18)
Tuesday, February 20 1996
Hill 1:21.10 (41)
Brundle 1:21.17 (44)
Barrichello 1:21.19 (42)
Villeneuve 1:21.44 (58)
Panis 1:22.48 (83)
Schumacher 1:22.55 (7) (412 T2)
Alesi 1:22.61 (28)
Salo 1:22.81 (22)
Katayama 1:23.89 (22)
Berger 1:26.85 (5)
Hakkinen 1:26.85 (1)
Monday, February 19 1996
Brundle 1:21.51 (18)
Hill 1:21.76 (26)
Hakkinen 1:22.27 (34)
Alesi 1:22.35 (34)
Barrichello 1:22.69 (16)
Villeneuve 1:22.83 (16)
Panis 1:22.99 (17)
Berger 1:23.55 (42)
Sunday, February 18 1996
Hill 1:22.24 (41)
Lamy 1:23.09 (21)
Villeneuve 1:23.12 (32)
Coulthard 1:23.54 (45)
Barrichello 1:25.25 (17)
Brundle 1:25.49 (2)
Saturday, February 17 1996
Hill 1:21.67 (90)
Alesi 1:21.98 (35)
Lamy 1:23.24 (28)
Berger 1:23.44 (17)
Brundle 1:23.73
Barrichello 1:24.13 (56)
Friday, February 16 1996
Hakkinen 1:21.50 (30)
Barrichello 1:21.51 (45)
Alesi 1:21.75 (26)
Coulthard 1:22.82 (27)
Brundle 1:23.12 (38)
Lamy 1:23.44 (58)
Berger 1:23.71 (32)
Thursday, February 15 1996
Hill 1:21.62 (81)
Berger 1:22.24 (32)
Alesi 1:22.40 (18)
Hakkinen 1:22.50 (21)
Barrichello 1:22.78 (73)
Brundle 1:22.99 (52)
Lamy 1:24.58 (38)
Wednesday, February 14 1996(damp)
Hill 1:22.33 (49)
Alesi 1:22.73 (49)
Prost 1:23.21 ?
Barrichello 1:23.40 (10)
Lamy 1:24.64 (39)
Brundle 1:24.66 ?
Berger 1:36.93 (3)
Tuesday, February 13 1996 (wet)
Hill 1:36.53 (30)
Prost 1:42.18 (4)
Saturday, February 10 1996
Katayama 1:22.31
Prost 1:23.50
Berger 1:23.90
Friday, February 9 1996
Alesi 1:22.37
Katayama 1:22.56
Thursday, February 8 1996
Salo 1:21.66
Katayama 1:22.19
Alesi 1:23.38
Wednesday, February 7 1996
Katayama 1:23.53
Alesi 1:25.15
Salo 1:25.20
Tuesday, February 6 1996
Villeneuve 1:21.50
Monday, February 5 1996 (wet)
Villeneuve 1:38.68
Frentzen 1:41.54
Saturday, February 3 1996
Villeneuve 1:21.82
Frentzen 1:22.68
Herbert 1:25.48
Thursday, January 18 1996
Boullion 1:20.97
Coulthard 1:23.33
Magnussen 1:24.41
Brundle 1:26.24
Wednesday, January 17 1996
Hill 1:20.77
Villeneuve 1:20.98
Coulthard 1:23.28
Prost 1:23.34
Tuesday, January 16 1996
Villeneuve 1:22.10
Hill 1:23.34
Prost 1:24.24
Monday, January 15 1996
Villeneuve 1:21.7
Hill 1:22.1
Friday, December 15 1995
Verstappen 1:21.90
Thursday, December 14 1995
Hill 1:19.45
Villeneuve 1:20.75
Schumacher 1:21.33
Berger 1:23.08
Verstappen 1:23.50
Wednesday, December 13 1995
Villeneuve 1:21.01
Hill 1:21.57
Schumacher 1:21.96
Alesi 1:22.37
Irvine 1:22.8
Barrichello 1:23.05
Verstappen 1:23.28
Tuesday, December 12 1995 (wet)
Schumacher 1:37.60
Hill 1:37.63
Villeneuve 1:38.70
Irvine 1:38.73
Monday, December 11 1995
Schumacher 1:22.14
Irvine 1:23.00
Berger 1:23.89
Saturday, November 25 1995 (wet)
Villeneuve Williams FW17B-Renault 1:38.02 (62 laps)
Friday, November 24 1995 (dry)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-12 1:21.30 (54 laps)
Villeneuve Williams FW17B-Renault 1.21.49 ?
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-10 1:22.83 (37 laps)
Thursday, November 23 1995 (dry)
Villeneuve Williams FW17B-Renault 1:20.94 (75 laps)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-12 1:21.20 (37 laps)
Berger Benetton B195-Renault 1:22.25 (38 laps)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-10 1:22.72 (32 laps)
Wednesday, November 22 1995 (wet/dry)
Alesi Benetton B195-Renault 1:21.44 (43 laps)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-10 1:23.25 (24 laps)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-12 1:23.35 (10 laps)
Villeneuve Williams FW17B-Renault 1:22.57 (61 laps)
Tuesday, November 21 1995 (dry)
Alesi Benetton B195-Renault 1:23.08 (14 laps)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-12 1:24.47 (10 laps)
Schumacher Ferrari 412 T2 V-10 1:22.43 (28 laps)
Jerez, Spain (1994 Pole GP of Europe: Michael Schumacher 1:22.762)
2.751 Miles
(fastest test-time: David Coulthard 1:25.839 (MP 4/10))
Thursday, December 21 1995
Brundle 1:27.50
Collard 1:27.90
Tuesday, December 5 1995
Coulthard 1:25.839
Maranello, Italy
(fastest test-time in F 310: Eddie Irvine 1:03.22)
Thursday, February 29 1996
Schumacher 1:03.38 (28 + 2)
Wednesday, February 28 1996
Irvine 1:03.24 (14)
Tuesday, February 27 1996
Irvine 1:03.22 (44)
Sunday, February 25 1996
Irvine 1:03.34 (F 310)
Thursday, February 22 1996
Irvine 1:03.28 (F 310)
Sunday, February 18 1996
Schumacher 1:04.44 (F 310)
Thursday, February 15 1996
Schumacher 1:04.94 (F 310)
Saturday, February 10 1996
Irvine 1:02.41
Friday, February 9 1996
Irvine 1:03.28
Wednesday, February 7 1996
Irvine 1:02.071
Larini 1:02.081
auto-moto.38vstan,
> Sta je sa rednim brojem 13?
Sujevera, to je.
auto-moto.41senna,
re: Coulthard prvi vozac u McLarenu
Cisto da se razumemo,Coulthard jeste dobar ali da je bolji od
Hakkinena nema sanse.
auto-moto.42junior,
> je dobar vozač. Kultard se ispalio na kraju sezone, ali meni je
> to ličilo na pokušaj da se što bolje proda.
Na kraju sezone, kad je i najzagriženijim Damonovcima ;) postalo jasno da
će Šumaher da bude šampion, Kultard je izbio iz senke svog poznatijeg
partnera, i preuzeo stvar u svoje ruke. Pokazalo se da može mnogo toga ...
U suštini, lično mislim da je on bio forsiran cele sezone, postigao bi
minimum isti uspeh koji i Hill, ako ne i veći.
auto-moto.43vpoznanovic,
Evo sada i sličica nekih bolida za narednu sezonu. U arhivi se nalaze:
Arrows FA17
Benetton B196
Ferrari F 310
Forti FG01-96
Ligier JS43
McLaren MP4/11
Sauber C15
Tyrrell 024
auto-moto.44vpoznanovic,
>> Evo sada i sličica nekih bolida za narednu sezonu. U arhivi se nalaze:
Već četvrti put šaljem i brišem ovu poruku pokušavajući da uz nju
okačim fajl, ali bez uspjeha. :( Stvar definitivno ne radi, ni iz
PAD-a, ni direktno. Ima li neko neki savjet?
auto-moto.45senna,
re: problemi sa ul-om
Ni ja nisam mogao da okacim onaj moj tekst,vec sam morao da ga
ascii ul-ujem :(. Ne znam u cemu je problem.
auto-moto.46kcurcic,
>U suštini, lično mislim da je on bio forsiran cele sezone,postigao bi
>minimum isti uspeh koji i Hill, ako ne i veći.
Gledano sa ove strane televizora, nešto nisam primetio
da je ijedan od njih dvojice forsiran. Vilijems nije takva ekipa.
A da je Kultard dobar vozač, tu nema sumnje. Za razliku od Hila, ima
mentalitet pobednika. (ili bar meni tako deluje - izgleda kao da može
da pobedi). Jedino što mu još nedostaje je iskustvo, ali ima vremena.
auto-moto.47wiper,
Meni nije bitno ko ce pobediti. Samo je bitno da to nebude SVABA.
Ali defitivnoto Hil ne moze .U jednakim uslovima Svaba ce uvek biti brzi.
Sto se tice Kulharda pokazace dali se samo prodao ili decko
stvarno ima petlju da stisne gas.
Sta mislite sta ce se desiti kad Meklaren dodje do motora na
nivo Honde iz '90.
Jedino sto nece moci da imaju je prvi vozaca.
To sto su pre dve godine izgubili to nikada nece moci da nadju
Jer onaj je bio najbolji .
auto-moto.48miko,
WW>> Sta je sa rednim brojem 13?
WW>> Vidim da ni na eurosportu nisu nikog stavili pod tim
WW>> brojem.
Koliko se ja secam,bar u nazad jedno deset godina,niko
nije vozao bolid sa tim brojem.Kazu da donosi nesrecu...
auto-moto.49senna,
Rezultati prvog nezvanicnog treninga na stazi u Melburnu:
1. Villenneuve 1:33.401 (!)
2. Hill 1:34.404
3. Alesi 1:34.664
4. Schumacher 1:35.018
5. Verstappen 1:35.057 (!)
6. Barichello 1:35.115
7. Irvine 1:35.349
8. Berger 1:35.362
9. Panis 1:35.780
10.Frentzen 1:36.135
11.Hakkinen 1:36.253
12.Coulthard 1:36.330
Rezultate ne treba smatrati previse merodavnim, za par sati se
vozi jos jedan trening na kome bi sve trebalo poprilicno realnije da
izgleda :).
auto-moto.50vpoznanovic,
Hill favourite?; Blundell
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Friday March 1, 1996
It seems Hill will be starting this Formula One season at Albert Park
in Melbourne as the favourite of the favourites. Three-times World
Champion Niki Lauda, now consultant for Ferrari, says Hill has the
best chance for the 1996 World Championship title: "Damon Hill has the
best cards to win the 1996 World Championship. He hasn't switched
teams like the other top drivers have, he knows his car and his
engine."
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Blundell
Mark Blundell is one of the two ex-Formula One drivers to make their
debut into Indy Car racing at the Grand Prix of Miami next Sunday.
Blundell, who wasn't offered a seat in a good Formula One team for
1996, will start his Indy Car carrier with the Pac West team, the
other ex-Formula One driver is Alessandro Zanardi, he will start with
the Ganassi team.
_________________________________________________________________
The book of Formula One doctor Sid Watkins on Senna's accident and
other items will be in store this month.
auto-moto.51vpoznanovic,
Inoue not at first Grand Prix; Schumi positive; Bludell's debut
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Monday March 4, 1996
Taki Inoue will not start at the first Grand Prix of the season in
Melbourne (Australia). The Japanese driver has sponsorship problems.
He will be replaced by Italian Giancarlo Fisichella, who won the
Formula Three Championship Title in 1994, drove touring cars for Alfa
Romeo and tested for Minardi and Ferrari this year. He also was the
candidate for the second seat at Ferrari for this season before Eddie
Irvine got the job.
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Schumi positive
Michael Schumacher is still optimistic about this year. The 1994 and
1995 World Champion said this weekend: " I think we are better
prepared, what the motor is concerned, than last year at Ferrari." He
also added: "I don't want to have 13 retirements, but there will be
some."
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Bludell's debut
Blundell's debut in the Indy Car series was a disappointing 17th
finish at the Grand prix of Miami yesterday. The other ex-Formula One
driver to make his debut, Alessandro Zanardi, crashed into the
concrete wall after a rear wheel came off when he left the pits.
auto-moto.52vpoznanovic,
Albert Park; Hill and Villeneuve
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Tuesday March 5, 1996
Almost all the drivers are very enthusiastic about the circuit at
Albert Park in Melbourne (Australia) one week before the start of the
new season there. Some even said it is one of the most beautiful
tracks in the world. Current World Champion, Michael Schumacher, said
it is very fast and exciting. Indy Car newcomer, Jacques Villeneuve,
said: "It looks great!". He also added that there are six potential
overtaking places.
The 5.269 km long circuit is expected to have a top speed of 285 km/h
and a lap time of more than one and a half minute, that is an average
of over 200 km/h. This was simulated by the Tyrrell-Yamaha team.
Albert Park has not been used by Formula One cars for 40 years. The
cars now drive in the opposite direction. There will also be some
other changes: The grid positions will be set only on Saturday, on
Friday there will be two one hour free sessions with a maximum of 30
laps per driver, on Saturday morning there will be two 45 minute
sessions.
The 1956 Olympic Grand Prix at Albert Park winner Stirling Moss called
it a fantastic track: "It is the finest conventional road circuit I've
seen, by miles. There is nothing to compare with it." He also added:
"It is going to be a exciting race weekend. Spa was the favourite
until now but I think Albert Park is certainly going to be." Jordan
driver Rubens Barrichello agreed on this: "I think it is a great
track."
The favourite to win this year's driver Championship title, Damon
Hill, is aiming to win the first Grand Prix of 1996: " I always enjoy
racing in Australia and although we are going to Melbourne for the
first time, I'm sure I will enjoy it."
"I've had a really good winter and I can't wait for the new season to
start." Hill also added: "I've learned a great deal during my three
seasons of Formula One racing."
Schumacher stated: " The favourites for the World Championship title
1996 are Williams and Benetton," and not his own team Ferrari.
_________________________________________________________________
Hill and Villeneuve
Damon Hill has been backed by Martin Brundle, in 1996 with
Jordan-Peugeot, and former team-mate David Coulthard for the 1996
World Championship. Brundle said about Hill's chances: "He can only
really lose the title this season. Williams are again looking the
stronger both in terms of speed and reliability." Coulthard, now with
the McLaren-Mercedes team, says Hill must be the favourite, but he
added: "We won't know what the season holds until the first race."
Jacques Villeneuve, team-mate of Briton Damon Hill, is determined to
avoid suffering the same fate as predecessors who came from Indy Car
racing.
Michael Andretti came from Indy Car as reigning World Champion, just
like Villeneuve, and left six months later with just one podium
finish. Villeneuve responded to this by saying: "Michael just did not
have the time to get ready. I have done several thousand miles of
testing and have lived in Monaco for a while." He also stated again he
will not be second to Hill: "When I race, I race to win."
auto-moto.53vpoznanovic,
Protesters at Albert Park; Schumacher; Paul Ricard
_________________________________________________________________
Wednesday March 6, 1996
Not all were so very enthusiastic about the race track in Albert Park
like the drivers were, protesters demonstrated at the circuit today to
voice their anger over it. The police said 13 people broke through the
fences and staged a brief protest against the racing circuit. A
spokesman of the demonstrators said the group wanted to tell the
drivers and the teams they were not welcome. The "Save Albert Park"
group has also threatened to stage "a major international incident" on
Sunday when the Australian Grand Prix is held. There were protest
against the Grand Prix ever since it was decided that the race would
be held at Albert Park.
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Schumacher
Michael Schumacher has driven around the circuit of Melbourne on a
moped in order to inspect it just 24 hours before the first extra free
training session. He showed himself to be a little concerned about the
dirty track. He said that it could be very slippery.
Michael Schumacher can resign at Ferrari when the results are not what
they are suppose to be. The clause was put into the contract for his
security. It also stated that Schumacher has to become third in the
final standing of the World Championship title.
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Paul Ricard
The French Grand Prix will stay at Magny-Cours until 1999. There was
speculation that the Grand Prix could be held Le Castellet from 1998.
The French Motorsports Federation said Le Castellet had failed to
reach an agreement with the FOCA: "The choice of Le Castellet circuit
was a sentimental one. But we had to give it up because of FOCA's
financial requirements." But they hope to bring the European Grand
Prix to France in 1997 and 1998, possibly at Paul Ricard.
_________________________________________________________________
Damon Hill has stated he wants to enter the next Grand Prix after
Australia in the lead for the World Championship. He said again: "I
want to win."
auto-moto.54vpoznanovic,
Familiarization Session Times at Albert Park
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Thursday March 7, 1996
If the familiarization session (held only at new Grands Prix) at
Albert Park is an indication of things to come, Jacques Villeneuve
will be the one to watch during Saturday's Australian Grand Prix
Qualifying. Villeneuve's time of 1:33.401 (126.985mph/204.357kmh) was
nearly a second faster than teammate Damon Hill who placed the second
quickest with a time of 1:34.392. Jean Alesi recorded the third best
result of the day. Michael Schumacher, Jos Verstappen and Rubens
Barrichello rounded out the top six times.
During the session, rookie Giancarlo Fisichella (who replaces Taki
Inoue at Minardi) crashed but escaped unhurt. Damon Hill, Pedro Lamy,
Ricardo Rosset, Pedro Diniz, Mika Hakkinen, Rubens Barrichello, Jean
Alesi and Ukyo Katayama all had spins.
Thursday March 7, 1996
Familiarization Session Times
Albert Park 3.274 miles - 5.238 kilometers
1. Jacques Villeneuve Canada Williams-Renault 1:33.401
2. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:34.392
3. Jean Alesi France Benetton-Renault 1:34.664
4. Michael Schumacher Germany Ferrari 1:35.018
5. Jos Verstappen Netherlands Footwork-Hart 1:35.057
6. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Jordan-Peugeot 1:35.115
7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:35.349
8. Gerhard Berger Austria Benetton-Renault 1:35.362
9. Olivier Panis France Ligier-Mugen-Honda 1:35.780
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen Germany Sauber-Ford 1:36.135
11. Mika Hakkinen Finland McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.253
12. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.330
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford 1:36.253
14. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Puegeot 1:37.051
14. Mika Salo Finland Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:37.051
16. Ukyo Katayama Japan Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:37.903
17. Pedro Lamy Portugal Minardi-Ford 1:38.072
18. Ricardo Rosset Brazil Footwork-Hart 1:38.367
19. Pedro Dinis Brazil Ligier-Mugen-Honda 1:38.447
20. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Minardi-Ford 1:39.142
21. Luca Badoer Italy Forti-Ford 1:51.007
22. Andrea Montermini Italy Forti-Ford 2:05.379
auto-moto.55vpoznanovic,
Melbourne Practice (Friday); Berger concered with Track's safety
_________________________________________________________________
Friday March 8, 1996
Melbourne Practice (Friday)
Damon Hill clocked fastest time today with a late surge in the final
five minutes of practice, edging out his team mate Jacques Villeneuve.
Hill's time was 1:32.159, some 0.237 seconds faster than Villeneuve.
Hill commented afterwards: "The pace is definitely heating up now and
everyone is getting to explore the circuit a bit more in depth, so it
is getting quite exciting."
Top Six:
1. Hill, Williams Renault
2. Villeneuve, Williams Renault
3. Alesi, Benetton Renault
4. Schumacher, Ferrari
5. Barrichello, Jordan Peugoet
6. Berger, Benetton Renault
_________________________________________________________________
Berger Concered with Track's Safety
Gerhard Berger, a lead driver involved with The Grand Prix Drivers
Association (GPDA), has voiced concerns about the safety of the new
Albert Park track. "There are two or three places where the runoff
areas should be moved," Berger said. Max Mosley, President of the FIA,
has dismissed claims about the tracks safety and said today that the
track is safe.
auto-moto.56vpoznanovic,
>> Sta mislite sta ce se desiti kad Meklaren dodje do motora na
>> nivo Honde iz '90.
Ništa, sadašnji Renaultov desetocilindrični motor je bolji od Hondinog
iz 1990-te. O Williamsovoj i Bennetonovoj šasiji u odnosu na McLarenovu
da i ne govorim.
auto-moto.57vpoznanovic,
'Ajde onda da probamo ponovo...
Sličice nekih bolida za narednu sezonu. U arhivi se nalaze:
Arrows FA17
Benetton B196
Ferrari F 310
Forti FG01-96
Ligier JS43
McLaren MP4/11
Sauber C15
Tyrrell 024
f196cars.zipauto-moto.58bosko,
Na slici su staze koje ćemo gledati od nedelje, pa nadalje :)
formula1.zipauto-moto.59senna,
Cisto da upotpunim rezultate sa jutrosnjeg treninga:
1. Hill 1:32.159
2. Villeneuve 1:32.396
3. Alesi 1:32.475
4. Schumacher 1:33.007
5. Barichello 1:33.480
6. Berger 1:33.528
7. Irvine 1:33.592
8. Verstappen 1:33.640
9. Coulthard 1:33.846
10.Hakkinen 1:33.935
11.Salo 1:33.992
12.Frentzen 1:34.068
Vilnev je poprilicno brz i samopouzdan, jedva cekam trku da vidim
sta ce ispasti od svega. Ferariji imaju problema sa oversteering-om u
sporim krivinama,bas se primecuje da nesto nije u redu,a Verstapenu
svaka cast,8. pozicija je za Futvork Hart vise nego dobra.
auto-moto.60kaiser,
==>> 1. Villenneuve 1:33.401 (!)
jel bre koi je ovaj.
auto-moto.61obren,
Poredak posle kvalifikacija:
1. Vilnev
2. Hil
3. Irvajn
4. Šumaher
5. Hakinen
6. Alezi
7. Berger
8. Baričelo
9. Frencen
10. Salo
11. Panis
12. Ferštapen
13. Kultard
14. Herbert
15. Katajama
auto-moto.62kum.djole,
>> 1. Vilnev
>> 2. Hil
>> 3. Irvajn
>> 4. Šumaher
A zamislite, recimo prognoziranje prve trojice, u temi 'prognoza'.. ;)
I tako do kraja sezone.. ;)
auto-moto.63lexus,
=>==>> 1. Villenneuve 1:33.401 (!)
=>
=> jel bre koi je ovaj.
Jacques Villenneuve(Žak Vilnev), sin Gillesa Villenneuve(Žil Vilnev)
poznatog vozača F1. Gilles je poginuo u Ferariju, čini mi se, 1982.
Jacques je krenuo očevim stopama i u svojoj debitantskoj sezoni osvojio
prvenstvo IndyCar-a... Prešao u F1 i voziće sa Hillom u Villiamsu.
Mnogi misle da Villenneuve nema velike šanse pošto ne poznaje staze, ali
greše, Jacques je često vozio evropske staze, a i izuzetno je talentovan.
Ove sezone navijam za njega, Schumachera, Alesia i Coultharda, Hilla
ne podnosim, a prema ostalim vozačima sam potpuno ravnodušan.
auto-moto.64lexus,
=> A zamislite, recimo prognoziranje prve trojice, u temi 'prognoza'..
=> ;) I tako do kraja sezone.. ;)
Ili da prognoziramo osvajače bodova tj. prvu šestoricu, pa da dobijamo
bodove u skladu sa njima + bod za skočka na pogrešnom mestu ;)))
Dakle, 1 mesto 10 bodova, 2-6, 3-4, 4-3, 5-2 i 6-1.
auto-moto.65wiper,
Ovo za prognozu nije lose. Mislim da ce malo vise biti bodova
max=160 da nije mnogo . Bolje da idemo 6,5,4,3,2,1 ili svako
pogodjeno mesto isti broj bodova. Ali prognozu bi bilo dobro da
drzi neko ko ima setl. da moze da daje dovoljno inf. i to na
vreme.
auto-moto.66kum.djole,
Zar niko da okači detaljnu tabelu današnje vožnje u Melburnu ?
auto-moto.67lexus,
=> Ovo za prognozu nije lose. Mislim da ce malo vise biti bodova
=> max=160 da nije mnogo . Bolje da idemo 6,5,4,3,2,1 ili svako
=> pogodjeno mesto isti broj bodova. Ali prognozu bi bilo dobro da
=> drzi neko ko ima setl. da moze da daje dovoljno inf. i to na
=> vreme.
Ja bih rado, ali nemam satelitsku :(
BTW: Zašto ovde niko nije napisao ko je pobedio nego samo u grupi???
Verovatno me je neko preduhitrio, ali nema veze:
1. Hill
2. Villeneuve
3. Irvine
Schumacher i Alesi odustali!
Moj favorit za ovu sezonu definitivno Jacques Villeneuve!!!
auto-moto.68wiper,
Williamsova šasija je dobra. A što se tiče Benettonove ona je iz 91
sa malom šminkom. Gde je bio Reno 90 i Ford 90 iza Honde.
Nemoj sadašnjeg Reno da porediš sa Hondom iz 90. Nego sačekajmo još malo
da se Mc'Laren vrati na nivo koji mu i priliči. A što se šasija tiče
u sezoni 93/94. Mc'laren je imao bolje rezultate od Benettona koji je imao
Forda poslednje gen. a Mc'Laren jednu gen. starijeg.
Budi siguran kada dobuju odgovarajući motor bonovo će biti ispred Benettona.
Jer oni su ipak tim sa najviše pobeda u istoriji formule 1.
auto-moto.69wiper,
da dopunimo
4.Berger
5.Hakkinen
6.Salo
1.Williams Renault - 16
2.Ferrari Ferrari - 4
3.Benetton Renault - 3
4.Mc'Laren Merced. - 2
5.Tyrell Yamaha - 1
auto-moto.70vesboj,
Sta misle domaci strucnjaci za F1
kakve su sanse Davidu Coulthardu ove sezone
i HIlu ili Sumaheru
auto-moto.71vesboj,
HI
jel ima neko GIF ili neki drugi format
sa slicicama oblika svih staza za ovu sezonu F1
auto-moto.72space.ace,
--> Budi siguran kada dobuju odgovarajući motor bonovo će biti ispred
Oće, đavola. Hakinen jest odličan vozač, ali ne može da se meri sa Alesijem
i Bergerom. Od onog tupavka Coultharda ne treba očekivati niš' značajno.
Još upoređuješ McLaren '90 sa Bennetonom '90, koji je tek počeo da se
razvija kao tim.
--> Benettona. Jer oni su ipak tim sa najviše pobeda u istoriji
--> formule 1.
Pa naravno, dok su Prost i Senna (bog da mu dušu prosti) vozili za njih, i
dok su imali Hondine motore. Mnogo sanjariš, od McLaren-a neće biti ništa, pazi
šta sam rekao :)
auto-moto.73space.ace,
--> Sta misle domaci strucnjaci za F1
Evo šta misle:
--> kakve su sanse Davidu Coulthardu ove sezone
Nikakve. Čovek je jednom seo u bolid pre sezone, i nije se baš proslavio.
To dokazuje da on baš i nije toliko dobar vozač, za kakvog se smatrao :)
--> i HIlu ili Sumaheru
Hill ima velike šanse, naravno ako Villeneuve slomi nogu :), jer mališa se
odlično pokazao. Vozi odlično, talentovan. Hill bi morao dobro da se potrudi
ako hoće titulu (mada verujem u njega ;).
Onu vucibatinu SCHU-a nemoj ni da pominješ, jer od onoga neće biti ništa,
jer i IRVINE (!!) vozi bolje od njega. Setite se samo kvalifikacija :)
Samim tim što je treći, Irvine dokazuje da nije u timu samo da bi SCHU imao
drugog vozača, već mu je namera i da pobeđuje (uprkos onoj kobnoj klauzuli).
Toliko od mene.
auto-moto.74space.ace,
--> jel ima neko GIF ili neki drugi format
--> sa slicicama oblika svih staza za ovu sezonu F1
Uzmi igru MicroProse Formula 1 Grand Prix, i to verziju 2, tamo imaš
(skoro)
sve staze (nema Melburn, Buenos Aires, možda i Nirburgring).
Ako nemaš, mogao bih ja da pošaljem koju, čisto da začinim situacijo :)
spaceman
auto-moto.75obren,
Dečko obećava! :)
auto-moto.76obren,
> Gde je bio Reno 90 i Ford 90 iza Honde. Nemoj sadašnjeg Reno da
> porediš sa Hondom iz 90. Nego sačekajmo još malo da se Mc'Laren vrati
> na nivo koji mu i priliči.
Pa da, raspravljati o snazi motora je vrlo nezahvalno, jer se
nikad zvanično ne objavljuju podaci o njihovj snazi. Međutim uvek
se otprilike zna gde je kome mesto, a i učinak na stazama je
valjda neki pokazatelj :)
Procenjena snaga Hondinog ˙TURBO˙ (ovo je bitno naglasiti) motora je
bila preko 1200 KS i to je bio najjači motor u to vreme (neki kažu i
u celoj istoriji F1) Onda je bila stvar izbora konkstruktora da li će
da se opredeli za turbo ili atmosferski motor, pa kom opanci kom obojci.
Međutim, FIA je videla da trke postaju nezanimljive ;) pa su TURBO
motori zabranjeni.
U Hondi su onda na brzinu morali da se preorijentišu, pa je izašla
atmosferska verzija motora koja je bila slabija, ali i dalje u vrhu.
McLaren je kasnije počeo da posustaje ne zbog motora, već što nije
pratio novi trend elektronski kontrolisanog ogibljenja.
Pred raskid (na Hondin zahtev) partnersta sa McLarenom, Hondini motori
jesu bili slabiji od Renoovih, i to dobrih 100 KS (jer je FIA zabranila
sve one tehničke detalje koji su ih činili boljim od konkurencije) ali
je Sena i pored toga uspeo da osvoji Šampionsku titulu.
Inače, kruže priče da se Honda vraća dogodine u F1, ali ne znam u
koji tim. U svakom slučaju moraće dobro da se pomuče, jer je Reno
daleko odmakao, naročito u pogledu pouzdanosti.
Ako je još neko fan Honde kao ja, a uz to ima pristup na Internet,
može da pogleda http://www.honda.com (ima par detalja iz istorije firme
i nešto malo o Indy Car šampionatu) Takođe, čuo sam da Ferrari ima
fantastičnu WEB stranicu, sa slikama svih automobila i bolida koje su
˙ikada˙ napravili. Međutim nisam je lično video, ali moraću prvom
prilikom da pogledam :)
U vezi tandema McLaren-Mercedes: mislim da je Mercedes umislio da je
njegovo ime dovoljno da se svi useru u gaće ;) kada ih vide na pistama
formule jedan. Ne sumnjam da će švabe uspeti da naprave dobar motor,
obzirom da im ne ide loše u formuli Indy, ali za titulu im fali i vozač.
Otprilike da će oni ipak da pričekaju da Bananamenu istekne ugovor sa
Ferarijem, mada nije isključeno da i ove godine uzmu neki GP.
Kad smo već kod McLarena, zanimljivo je da su se na konkurs za motor
superauta F1, prijavili Mercedes, Honda i BMW. Motor je, kao što znate
dobio na pravljenje BMW i napravio ga, bogami, ljudski :) Međutim ono
što je čudno je da to, da je nakon ove izuzetno uspešne saradnje (F1
nema pravu konkurenciju gde god da se pojavi) McLaren uzeo Mercedesa
da im pravi motore za šampionat F1.
auto-moto.77vpoznanovic,
Australian GP Sunday warmup
Formula One World Championship
Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne
Results of Sunday warm up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:33.363
2. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:33.410 0.047 0.047
3. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:34.167 0.757 0.804
4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:34.176 0.009 0.813
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford 1:34.177 0.001 0.814
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:34.251 0.074 0.888
7. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:34.338 0.087 0.975
8. Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart 1:34.381 0.043 1.018
9. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:34.431 0.050 1.068
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford 1:34.653 0.222 1.290
11. Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot 1:34.664 0.011 1.301
12. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot 1:35.116 0.452 1.753
13. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen 1:35.322 0.206 1.959
14. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.774 0.452 2.411
15. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.853 0.079 2.490
16. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:35.914 0.061 2.551
17. Giancarlo Fisichella I Minardi-Ford ED 1:36.487 0.573 3.124
18. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen 1:36.966 0.479 3.603
19. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart 1:37.001 0.035 3.638
20. Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED 1:37.783 0.782 4.420
107% of fastest time: 1:39.898
auto-moto.78vpoznanovic,
Australian GP Race Resume:
Weather: Bright, sunny
Warm-Up lap:
-Lamy starts from pits
-Hill lays rubber at the start, Villeneuve does not - for a moment
Hill leads Villeneuve
-Frentzen retires with mechanical failure
Start:
-Villeneuve makes perfect start
-Hill slides on 2nd corner and both Ferraries get past
-Half way round circuit zig-zagging in the pack casues Brundle to
hit Herberts car. Brundle cartwheels, breaks in half and lands
heavily in sand
-Brundle out OK
RACE STOPPED
-Doctor gives OK for Brundle to restart
2nd Warm-Up lap:
-All round OK, including Frentzen
-Brundle, Coultard start from pits
Re-Start:
-Good start by everyone
L1:
-Pos: Villeneuve,Hill,Irvine,Schumacher,Alesi
-Brundle spins and is out
-Schumacher gets past Irvine
L2:
-Pos: Villeneuve,Hill,Schumacher,Irvine,Ales,Hakkinen
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 37.036s
L3:
-Fastest lap - Schumacher - 1m 35.759s
L4:
-Fastest lap - Schumacher - 1m 35.467s
L5:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 35.223s
L6:
-Fastest lap - Hill - 1m 34.893s
L7:
L8:
L9:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 34.781s
-Alesi tries to get past Irvine - makes contact and destroys his side
pods on Irvines rear wheel.
-Alesi into pits and retires
L10:
L11:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 34.290s
-Pos: Villeneuve -> 1.020s -> Hill -> 1.309s -> Schumacher -> 8.364s ->
Irvine -> 13.117s -> Hakkinenk
L12:
L13:
L14:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 34.166s
L15:
-Vestappen spins off and retires
L16:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 34.157s
-Pits - Salo - 14.7s
L17:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 34.069s
L18:
-Fastest lap - Schumacher - 1m 33.651s
L19:
-Pits - Schumacher - 12.9s
L20:
-Villeneuve catches the back markers
-Pos: Villeneuve -> 0.696s -> Hill -> 18.090s -> Irvine -> 12.732s ->
Schumacher -> 10.778s -> Hakkinenk
L21:
-Pits - Irvine - 11.7s
L22:
L23:
L24:
-Pits - Berger - 9.1s
-Coulthard into pits and retires
L25:
-Pos: Villeneuve, Hill, Schumacher, Hakkinen, Barrichello
L26:
-Pits - Barrichello - 11.3s
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 33.633s
-Pos: Villeneuve -> 1.099s -> Hill -> 30.791s -> Schumacher -> 18.119s ->
Hakkinen -> 4.220s -> Irvine
L27:
-Fastest lap - Villeneuve - 1m 33.421s
L28:
L29:
-Pits - Villeneuve - 17.6s (problems with rear) - back into 2nd
-Barrichello retires
L30:
-Pits - Hakkinen - 14.2s
-Pos: Hill -> 38.349s -> Villeneuve -> 13.015s -> Schumacher
L31:
-Pits: Hill - 18.5s - back into 1st
-Villeneuve gets past Hill
-Schumacher off through sand after a front locklup
-Pits: Schumacher - 1m 03.2s (problems inside nose) - back into 9th
L32:
-Schumacher into pits and retires
L33:
L34:
-Villeneuve slides off accross grass but keeps in lead (wow!)
-Pos: Villeneuve,Hill,Irvine,Berger,Hakkinen
L35:
L36:
L37:
L38:
-Pos: Villeneuve -> 0.602s -> Hill -> 18.992s -> Irvine
L39:
L40:
-Pits: Frentzen - 11.8s - back into 8th
L41:
-Pits: Berger - 9.6s - back into 4th
L42:
-Pits: Irvine - 10.8s - back into 3rd
-Pos: Villeneuve,Hill,Irvine,Berger,Hakkinen
L43:
L44:
-Pos: Villeneuve -> 1.022s -> Hill -> 49.350s -> Irvine -> 21.746s ->
Berger -> 7.675s -> Hakkinen
L45:
L46:
-Starting to see vapour from the back of Villeneuve
L47:
L48:
-Pos: Villeneuve -> 1.211s -> Hill
L49:
L51:
-Pos: Villeneuve,Hill,Irvine,Berger,Hakkinen
L52:
L53:
-Villeneuve pit board shows SLOW DOWN
-Hill gets past Villeneuve
L54:
-Pos: Hill -> 6.013s -> Villeneuve -> 43.071s -> Irvine
L55:
L56:
L57:
L58:
-Hill wins
Australian GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:32:50.491
2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault +38.020
3. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari +1:02.571
4. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault +1:17.037
5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes +1:35.071
6. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha -1 lap
7. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen -1 lap
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford -1 lap
9. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart -2 laps
10. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen -2 laps
11. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha -3 laps
DNF Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED on lap 43
DNF Michael Schumacher D Ferrari on lap 33
DNF Giancarlo Fisichella I Minardi-Ford ED on lap 33
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot on lap 30
DNF David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes on lap 25
DNF Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart on lap 16
DNF Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault on lap 10
DNF Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot on lap 2
DNS Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford
auto-moto.79vpoznanovic,
Australian GP fastest laps
Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:33.421
2. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:33.621 0.200 0.200
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:33.651 0.030 0.230
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:34.533 0.882 1.112
5. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:34.757 0.224 1.336
6. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen 1:34.767 0.010 1.346
7. Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot 1:35.064 0.297 1.643
8. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:35.280 0.216 1.859
9. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:35.519 0.239 2.098
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford 1:35.596 0.077 2.175
11. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.843 0.247 2.422
12. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:36.377 0.534 2.956
13. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart 1:36.557 0.180 3.136
14. Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart 1:36.649 0.092 3.228
15. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen 1:37.024 0.375 3.603
16. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.746 0.722 4.325
17. Giancarlo Fisichella I Minardi-Ford ED 1:38.077 0.331 4.656
18. Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED 1:38.784 0.707 5.363
19. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot 1:56.481 17.697 23.060
107% of fastest time: 1:39.960
auto-moto.80vpoznanovic,
Standings after Australian GP
Drivers' Championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor Points
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 10
2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 6
3. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 4
4. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 3
5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 2
6. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1
Constructors' Championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
----------------------------------------------
1. Williams-Renault GB 16
2. Ferrari I 4
3. Benetton-Renault I 3
4. McLaren-Mercedes GB 2
5. Tyrrell-Yamaha GB 1
auto-moto.81vpoznanovic,
Australian GP winners' press conference
Q Damon, you've won twice in Australia in the last 4
months you must be delighted to get the 10 point lead?
DH Absolutely, I feel fantastic and I've got to say that
everyone in the team deserves this. It's a terrific
result. I had a great race with Jacques and I'm
delighted obviously, to have come back to Australia, won
and started the season the way I finished the last one.
Q It looks like it's going to be a pretty tough fight
between you and Jacques this season.
DH Yeah, I don't think there's going to be anything given
away and Jacques showed today that he's a racer. We had
a good race and I think the crowds have got something
from that and I'm sure they thought it was a good race
too.
Q You had a few tricky moments about half way through the
race?
DH Yeah, I had a few tricky moments 3 or 4 times in the
race but everything went to plan and we stuck close
together. It was a thriller I think.
Q Jacques, you must be a bit disappointed, having lead for
most of the race, not to end up winning it?
JV Well, for sure it's disappointing to lead most of the
race and then having to slow down but the whole race
itself was fun. It was a great battle with Damon and,
for sure, today was a good demonstration of the Williams
Rothmans Renault. It's a very strong package.
Q Eddie, the last time we saw you was in Montreal. Did you
expect to have such a successful start with Ferrari?
EI Not really. We have had so many problems with
reliability and I have done very little running in the
car and to come here and be on the 2nd row really
surprised us. For us to finish the race, especially in
the 1st race for Ferrari, it's a bit special. So I'm
really pleased to be on the podium.
Q Damon, a look forward to Brazil?
DH Yeah, but for the moment I'm leading the World
Championship and I've 3 weeks till the next race, so I'm
going to savour every day of that. I'd just like to say
thanks to Melbourne as well, for putting on such a great
grand prix. It's a great weekend and Australia have done
it again. I think it's a good kick-off to the season.
auto-moto.82lexus,
=> Dečko obećava! :)
Misli li se na malog Žaka? ;)
Mali je budući kralj!!!
auto-moto.83lexus,
=> Onu vucibatinu SCHU-a nemoj ni da pominješ, jer od onoga neće biti
=> ništa, jer i IRVINE (!!) vozi bolje od njega. Setite se samo
=> kvalifikacija :)
To što toliko mrziš Šumahera je tvoj problem, ali nemoj da ga klevetaš!
Čovek je odustao zato što mu nešto sa kočnicama nije radilo kako treba!
Da nije odustao i da Jacquesu nije pustilo ulje tvoj Hill ne bi video
ni drugu poziciju, a kamoli pobedu. Ovog puta je imao sreće, ali
prvenstvo sigurno neće osvojiti!
Za kraj sezone prognoziram sledeće:
1. Villeneuve
2. Schumacher
3. Alesi
4. Hill
5. Irvine
6. Barichello
Pozdrav -Lex->
auto-moto.84wiper,
> Pa naravno, dok su Prost i Senna (bog da mu dusu prosti) vozili za njih, i
> dok su imali Hondine motore. Mnogo sanjaris, od McLaren-a nece biti nista,
> pazi sta sam rekao :)
Mozda ja sanjam ali vreme ce pokazati svoje
Moja prognoza da ce cuvenu Mc'Larenovu 8-cu naslediti Brzilac
Baricelo sto se drugog tice moze da bude ko hoce .
Meni se licno svidja Dejvid K. decko ima muda da stisne gas a to sto se
zajebe neki put pa i VELIKI SENA nije odmah pokazivao
rezultate mora covek da se uhoda. A za koju god. ce mo se videti
Sto se tice nekih u grupi koji izgleda simpatisu svabu. To je najpokvareniji
smrdljivko u F1 taj bez mucki ne moze. Zasto je Beneton sad naglo oslabi
nije valjda on super vozac kvaliteta jednog Sene da izvlaci ne moguce. Naravno
da nije nego prevarom do pobede. Kad je tako dobar sto 92 nije bio brzi od Sene
a imao je novijeg forda od Sene. Nego seljak ostaje seljak.
Setite se samo Imole i njegove izjave " SENA JE NERVOZNO VOZIO STALNO MU JE
BEZAO
BOLID" pazi majkumu nevozno vozio - to sto se njemu desilo je bio trenutak i
splet losih okolnosti. Po njemu on je vozio sve vreme sa polomljenom up.letvom
pitao bi ga ja da nije bilo one trave i da je zid malo dalji dali bi imao dve
titule. Imao bi samo kolekciju prolazaka Sene pored njega.
Gde ste videli Svabu da ne podvaljuje
Da mogu samo nekoliko kruga da vozim imao bi samo jedan cilja
a to je UDARI SVABU I NABIGA NA ZID.
auto-moto.85kcurcic,
> To što toliko mrziš Šumahera je tvoj problem, ali nemoj da ga klevetaš!
> Da nije odustao i da Jacquesu nije pustilo ulje tvoj Hill ne bi video
> ni drugu poziciju, a kamoli pobedu. Ovog puta je imao sreće, ali
To što toliko mrziš Hila je tvoj problem, ali nemoj da ga
klevetaš!
auto-moto.86kcurcic,
> Nikakve. Čovek je jednom seo u bolid pre sezone, i nije se baš proslavio.
> To dokazuje da on baš i nije toliko dobar vozač, za kakvog se smatrao :)
Nemoj zaboraviti da je prošle sezone vozio Vilijems a sad je
u pitanju Meklaren. Razlike su drastične.
> Hill ima velike šanse, naravno ako Villeneuve slomi nogu :), jer mališa se
> odlično pokazao. Vozi odlično, talentovan. Hill bi morao dobro da se
> potrudi ako hoće titulu (mada verujem u njega ;).
Moram da priznam da sam u početku sumnjao u ekipu iz Vilijemsa
ali se ipak pokazalo da su bili u pravu. Vilnev je definitivno iznenađenje
za mene. Sjajan je. Međutim, ovo je tek prva trka, a prvi se mačići u vodu
bacaju.
> Onu vucibatinu SCHU-a nemoj ni da pominješ, jer od onoga neće biti ništa,
> jer i IRVINE (!!) vozi bolje od njega. Setite se samo kvalifikacija :)
> Samim tim što je treći, Irvine dokazuje da nije u timu samo da bi SCHU imao
> drugog vozača, već mu je namera i da pobeđuje (uprkos onoj kobnoj
U ovo baš nisam uveren. Sezona je duga, a Šumaher, i pored
izvesne ( štaviše, izražene ) netrpeljivosti koju gajim prema njemu
ipak jeste dobar vozač.
auto-moto.87senna,
Pred raskid (na Hondin zahtev) partnersta sa McLarenom, Hondini motori
jesu bili slabiji od Renoovih, i to dobrih 100 KS (jer je FIA zabranila
sve one tehnicke detalje koji su ih cinili boljim od konkurencije) ali
je Sena i pored toga uspeo da osvoji Sampionsku titulu.
-------
Ovo je u najmanju ruku smesno. Honda je bila jaca od Renoa,to je
100% sigurno. Druga stvar je sto je sam motor bio ogroman,sto je
trosio puno goriva i sto je bio vrlo gabaritan,pa je bolid sa njim
lezao ko trotinet. Seti se Monaka '92. i one fantasticne zavrsnice
trke kada su se Mensel i Sena borili za pobedu. Da je Mensel imao
100ks vise + nove gume + bolji bolid Sena ne bi imao nikakve sanse.
Inace, kruze price da se Honda vraca dogodine u F1, ali ne znam u
koji tim. U svakom slucaju morace dobro da se pomuce, jer je Reno
daleko odmakao, narocito u pogledu pouzdanosti.
-------
Prica se,al verovatno nista od toga. Inace su trebali da imaju
kompletan bolid.
auto-moto.88senna,
> Nikakve. Covek je jednom seo u bolid pre sezone, i nije se bas proslavio.
> To dokazuje da on bas i nije toliko dobar vozac, za kakvog se smatrao :)
Nemoj zaboraviti da je prosle sezone vozio Vilijems a sad je
u pitanju Meklaren. Razlike su drasticne.
-----
Jedna stvar je sigurna: kvalitet vozaca se pokazuje kod losih bolida,
a ne na Vilijamsu. Hila i Kultarda je na testovima drao Buljon,a Frencen
je od ovoga bio konstantno brzi u Sauberu.
Moram da priznam da sam u pocetku sumnjao u ekipu iz Vilijemsa
ali se ipak pokazalo da su bili u pravu. Vilnev je definitivno iznenadenje
za mene. Sjajan je. Medutim, ovo je tek prva trka, a prvi se macici u vodu
bacaju.
------
To sa macicima je vrlo lepo dok se ne setis da Hil vozi taj bolid
x godina,a da je Zak tek krenuo da uci.
> Onu vucibatinu SCHU-a nemoj ni da pominjes, jer od onoga nece biti nista,
> jer i IRVINE (!!) vozi bolje od njega. Setite se samo kvalifikacija :)
> Samim tim sto je treci, Irvine dokazuje da nije u timu samo da bi SCHU imao
> drugog vozaca, vec mu je namera i da pobeduje (uprkos onoj kobnoj
U ovo bas nisam uveren. Sezona je duga, a Sumaher, i pored
izvesne ( stavise, izrazene ) netrpeljivosti koju gajim prema njemu
ipak jeste dobar vozac.
------
Od Irvine-a je sigurno bolji.
auto-moto.89lexus,
=> To što toliko mrziš Hila je tvoj problem, ali nemoj da ga
=> klevetaš!
Ne mrzim ga, samo mislim da nema muda i da ne može da pobedi
Villeneuvea :) A Schumachera ne volim previše, ali mislim da
je odličan vozač. Uostalom, sve će se videti :)
auto-moto.90schef,
=-> Hill ima velike šanse, naravno ako Villeneuve slomi nogu :),
=-> jer mališa se odlično pokazao. Vozi odlično, talentovan.
=-> Hill bi morao dobro da se potrudi
A kao fora maredili Villeneuvu da propusti Hill-a zato što mu 'popustio
pritisak ulja' pa da ne bi rizikovali da ispuste prvo mesto. Pričice za
malu decu. Kao i u svim ekipama, i ovde favorizuju starijeg ali po svemu
sudeći lošijeg vozača.
Srleř
auto-moto.91obren,
> A kao fora maredili Villeneuvu da propusti Hill-a zato što mu
> 'popustio pritisak ulja' pa da ne bi rizikovali da ispuste prvo
> mesto.
Što je tačno - pogledaj razliku između njih dvojice na kraju trke,
definitivno je imao problema sa bolidom. Jednostavno, imao je peh,
i Hil bi ga prestigao kad-tad, ali priznajem da ovaj postupak liči
na Williams ;)
auto-moto.93stefan,
> Da mogu samo nekoliko kruga da vozim imao bi samo jedan cilja
> a to je UDARI SVABU I NABIGA NA ZID.
Ajde da se uzdržimo od ovakvih "izliva ljubavi" da ne bi padalo
zvezdičenje poruka 0:)
auto-moto.94junior,
> Za kraj sezone prognoziram sledeće:
> 1. Villeneuve
> 2. Schumacher
> 3. Alesi
> 4. Hill
Vilnev jeste talentovan. Ali mlad je on još za pobede u F1. A pogotovo za
titulu svetskog šampiona. Poredak (moj) je ovakav:
1. Hill
2. Šumi
3. Alesi
4. Vilnev
jr.
auto-moto.95lexus,
=> Moram da priznam da sam u početku sumnjao u ekipu iz Vilijemsa
=> ali se ipak pokazalo da su bili u pravu. Vilnev je definitivno
=> iznenađenje za mene. Sjajan je. Međutim, ovo je tek prva trka, a
=> prvi se mačići u vodu bacaju.
Dečko je fantastičan vozač i ja verujem da može da postane šampion
već ove sezone, ali pitanje je kako će se pokazati na stazama koje
drugi vozači poznaju, a on ne!
Melburn je nova staza, tako da su svi vozači imali jednako poznavanje
staze, ali postoji par staza koje Villeneuve nikad nije vozio i pitanje
je kako će proći na njima!
auto-moto.96space.ace,
--> Čovek je odustao zato što mu nešto sa kočnicama nije radilo kako
--> treba! Da nije odustao i da Jacquesu nije pustilo ulje tvoj Hill
--> ne bi video
Pa ti misliš da bi Schu bio drugi da nije odustao? Čoveče, on se do koske
zezno sa gorivom. Ušao u boks prvi put i sipali su mu toliko da je mogao trku
da završi (posle je imao po 2 sekunde slabija vremena od Hill-a i
Villeneuve-a).
Što znači da nije imao šanse da stigne ovu dvojicu, a kamoli da bude drugi.
Jer,
iako je mogao da vozi s onim gorivom, morao bi da ulazi u boks po gume, jer je
isuviše rano zamenio stare. To što su mu otkazale kočnice ne vadi ga mnogo, jer
nije imao šanse da ih stigne. Irvine je mogao da stigne Villeneuve-a da je non
stop gazip po gasu, ali su mu iz boksa, kad je odustao Schu, rekli da malo
oladi
i da ne gazi toliko, jer je mogao da otkaže motor. Da je gazio, sigurno bi ga
stigao :)
--> 4. Hill
Da ovo nije malo preterano? Lično mislim da bi trebalo da Schu i Hill zamene
mesta...
auto-moto.97space.ace,
--> 1. Hill
--> 2. Šumi
--> 3. Alesi
--> 4. Vilnev
Apsolutno podržavam :))
auto-moto.98bosko,
> jel ima neko GIF ili neki drugi format
> sa slicicama oblika svih staza za ovu sezonu F1
Poruka 11.58
auto-moto.99vpoznanovic,
>> Williamsova šasija je dobra. A što se tiče Benettonove ona je iz 91
>> sa malom šminkom.
Upravo ta "mala šminka", kako je ti nazivaš (što je potpuno apsurdan
naziv za promjene koju su urađene na bolidu Benetton u periodu 1991-1994)
je bila jedna od najvažnijih karika u procesu pretvaranja jednog krajnje
prosječnog bolida u šampionski.
>> Nemoj sadašnjeg Reno da porediš sa Hondom iz 90. Nego sačekajmo još malo
>> da se Mc'Laren vrati na nivo koji mu i priliči.
Moja poredba je isključivo rezultat odgovora na ono što si ti izjavio.
Pogledaj malo bolje šta si napisao i sve će ti biti jasno.
A što se konkurentnosti sadašnjeg McLarena tiče, bojim se da ćeš morati
malo duže sačekati na to. Ni mnogo snažniji motor od Mercedesovog (koji
uzgred budi rečeno u tom smislu uopšte nije loš) ne bi ih izvukao iz
stanja u kojem se nalaze (koliko je Ferrari sa nesumnjivo najjačim motorom
u proteklih nekoliko godina bio konkurentan?). Eksperimenti sa
postavljanjem, pa skidanjem, pa ponovnim postavljanjem i na kraju opet
skidanjem onog dodatnog krila u toku prošle sezone dovoljno govore o
nemogućnosti pronalaženja univerzalnog aerodinamičkog rješenja.
>> A što se šasija tiče u sezoni 93/94. Mc'laren je imao bolje rezultate
>> od Benettona koji je imao Forda poslednje gen. a Mc'Laren jednu gen.
>> starijeg.
U sezoni 1994. McLaren nije imao bolje rezultate od Benettona.
>> Jer oni su ipak tim sa najviše pobeda u istoriji formule 1.
Netačno. Ferrari ima najviše pobjeda u istoriji - 105. McLaren je drugi
sa 104.
auto-moto.100vpoznanovic,
>> Pa da, raspravljati o snazi motora je vrlo nezahvalno, jer se
>> nikad zvanično ne objavljuju podaci o njihovj snazi.
To važi za uslove u kojima mi pratimo šampionat bolida Formule 1, ali
svakako ne i za uslove u kojima ga prate ljubitelji tog sporta u nekim
drugim zemljama. U specijalizovanim stranim magazinima redovno se u
analizama pred novu sezonu prave komparacije performansi bolida, a jedno
od najznačajnijih mjesta tu naravno zauzima i snaga motora. Često se mogu
naći vrlo relevantni i precizni podaci.
auto-moto.101giovanni,
Ę? Onu vucibatinu SCHU-a nemoj ni da pominješ, jer od onoga neće biti ništa,
Ę? jer i IRVINE (!!) vozi bolje od njega. Setite se samo kvalifikacija :)
Dobro, bre, ljudi, što vi toliko mrzite tog Šumahera? Nije on kriv što
je Senna poginuo. Zna se ko je kriv za njegovu smrt. Da budem iskren,
Ayrtona nisam voleo ali sam ga izuzetno poštovao kao jednog od dva
najbolja vozača svih vremena. Ipak, kad je poginuo, bilo mi zaista teško
i u toj sezoni sam navijao protiv Šumahera baš zbog toga što on nebi
imao nikakve šanse da osvoji titulu da je Senna ostao živ. Ali nisam ga
mrzeo a sledeće sezone sam navijao za njega. Treba da napomenem da
prevashodno navijam za Ferrari, ma ko u njemu da vozi, tako da ove sezone
navijam za Šumahera i Irvajna. To što navijam za Ferrari i njegove vozače
ne znači da mrzim ostale i da ih omalovažavam iako bih mogao to da radim.
Recimo, Hil je obična pi*ka i sl. ali to ne vodi nikuda. Pokojni Fangio
je rekao ono o procentima: 20% je umešnost vozača a 80% kvalitet bolida
F1 i bio je u pravu.
auto-moto.102miobrado,
Konačno je završena prva trka F1, koju sam s nestrpljenjem očekivao. Bogami
opet me je Hill po ko zna koji put razočarao, bez obzira što je trku završ-
io na prvom mestu. Ali sviđa mi se što je Vilnev razbio monotoniju koja
koja je polako počela vlada u F1, bar će naredne trke biti zanimljive.
Po mojoj proceni opet će se voditi borba između Šumahera i Hilla. Mada je
Hill u prednosti jer ipak ima najbolji bolid, a prvi je vozač williamsa.
Tako da će Vilnev u nardenim trkama ako bude bio ispred Hilla morati da ga
pušta jer mora se znati ko je gazda.
Evo moje prognoze:
1.Hill
2.Šumaher
3.Vilnev
4.Alesi
M
auto-moto.103kum.djole,
>> je Senna poginuo. Zna se ko je kriv za njegovu smrt.
Da obnovimo - po mojim informacijama, kriv je sam.
Valjda je lično urgirao da se polomljeni stub volana (je l' se
to tako zove?) zavari, umesto da se promeni.. i na tom mestu
var je pukao u toku vožnje, izgubio je kontrolu, epilog znamo..
Grešim li ?
auto-moto.104wiper,
>>> je Senna poginuo. Zna se ko je kriv za njegovu smrt.
>
> Da obnovimo - po mojim informacijama, kriv je sam.
> Valjda je licno urgirao da se polomljeni stub volana (je l' se
> to tako zove?) zavari, umesto da se promeni.. i na tom mestu
> var je pukao u toku voznje, izgubio je kontrolu, epilog znamo..
> Gresim li ?
Koliko mi se cini po pravilima je da taj sub volana ispunjen
a ne supalj kao sto je njgov bio. I malo veceg precnika nego
sto je taj bio.
auto-moto.105giovanni,
Ę? Valjda je lično urgirao da se polomljeni stub volana (je l' se
Ę? to tako zove?) zavari, umesto da se promeni.. i na tom mestu
Nisam čuo da je on lično urgirao da se letva zavari na postojeće parče.
I da je to tačno, opet krivicu snose inženjeri koji bi trebalo da znaju
kakve posledice to može imati (i na žalost je imalo) po upravljivost
bolida i bezbednost vozača. Mogao je Senna da kaže da ugrade joystick
umesto volana pa ne bi valjda oni tada to stvarno i uradili?
auto-moto.106wiper,
Jos jedan dodatak tada je Frank Williams imao
polisu osiguranja koja je bila naj veca koju je ű jedan
sportista imao - tj. tim koji je osigurao svog sportistu
cisto da ne promakne i taj podatak kojiku je Senna imao
zelju da pogine ?????
auto-moto.107senna,
Da obnovimo - po mojim informacijama, kriv je sam.
Valjda je licno urgirao da se polomljeni stub volana (je l' se
to tako zove?) zavari, umesto da se promeni.. i na tom mestu
var je pukao u toku voznje, izgubio je kontrolu, epilog znamo..
Gresim li ?
--------
Gresis. Senna je,zbog svog specificnog stila voznje,zahtevao
volan veceg precnika,kako bi ga lakse okretao. Ljudi u Williamsu
su stavili novi volan tako sto su skinuli stari i navarili novi.
Po nezvanicnim izvestajima,sipka je pukla bas na mestu vara,sto
samo potvrdjuje sumnje o traljavo obavljenom poslu. Pa nije niko
budala pa da trazi da vozi bolid sa necim sto moze da pukne svakog
trenutka...
auto-moto.108djcorto,
Ima li stogodj sutra ? ;)
auto-moto.109giovanni,
Ę? Ima li stogodj sutra ? ;)
Ne. Sledeća trka F1 je narednog vikenda (Nedelja 31.03.) u Brazilu.
auto-moto.110cdragan,
Sa malim zakašnjenjem ... upravo traje trka ;)
Formula 1: Brazilian Grand Prix
Qualifying
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Session Resume:
Weather: Cloudy, Overcast
Time Event
0:03:47 Pole - Panis 1m 20.426s
0:04:17 Pole - Barrichello 1m 19.186s
Pos: Barrichello, Salo, Herbert, Coulthard
0:09:14 2nd - Alesi 1m 19.484s
0:11:11 Diniz stalls on track, sessions stopped after
Alesi takes to the sand to avoid him
0:17:44 Restart
0:20:28 Pole - Hill 1m 18.983s
Pos: Hill, Barrichello, Alesi
0:34:10 2nd - Villeneuve 1m 19.254s
0:36:25 2nd - Barrichello 1m 19.092s
0:39:57 Pole - Hill 1m 18.111s
Pos: Hill, Barrichello, Villeneuve, Alesi, Schumacher, Hakkinen
0:48:38 Panis into sand
0:54:40 4th - Brundle 1m 19.519s
0:56:37 Villeneuve drifts into sand and out again at VERY high speed.
Front wing falls off and he's back into pits - for good
Pos: Hill, Barrichello, Villeneuve, Alesi, Brundle, Schumacher
1:06:13 4th - Schumacher 1m 19.474s
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Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free 1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill 1m 18.111s 1 1m 17.959s 5 1m 20.938s 3 1m 21.366s
2 R.Barrichello 1m 19.092s 3 1m 18.480s 10 1m 21.625s 7 1m 22.364s
3 J.Villeneuve 1m 19.254s 2 1m 18.221s 15 1m 22.040s 13 1m 23.189s
4 M.Schumacher 1m 19.474s 4 1m 18.764s 7 1m 21.165s 6 1m 22.279s
5 J.Alesi 1m 19.484s 12 1m 19.943s 1 1m 19.240s 1 1m 20.836s
6 M.Brundle 1m 19.519s 6 1m 19.085s 9 1m 21.311s 9 1m 22.630s
7 E.Irvine 1m 19.591s 7 1m 19.366s 0 0m 0.000s 0 0m 0.000s
8 M.Hakkinen 1m 19.607s 5 1m 18.908s 3 1m 20.696s 4 1m 21.555s
9 G.Berger 1m 19.762s 17 1m 20.949s 2 1m 19.879s 2 1m 21.174s
10 H.Frentzen 1m 19.799s 8 1m 19.551s 13 1m 21.932s 14 1m 23.320s
11 M.Salo 1m 20.000s 11 1m 19.752s 16 1m 22.144s 11 1m 22.919s
12 J.Herbert 1m 20.144s 15 1m 20.395s 11 1m 21.701s 8 1m 22.412s
13 J.Verstappen 1m 20.157s 14 1m 20.073s 8 1m 21.199s 15 1m 23.445s
14 D.Coulthard 1m 20.167s 10 1m 19.618s 4 1m 20.852s 5 1m 22.120s
15 O.Panis 1m 20.426s 13 1m 19.970s 6 1m 21.006s 10 1m 22.637s
16 U.Katayma 1m 20.427s 9 1m 19.577s 17 1m 22.162s 12 1m 23.180s
17 R.Rosset 1m 20.440s 18 1m 21.018s 12 1m 21.706s 20 1m 27.566s
18 P.Diniz 1m 20.873s 16 1m 20.846s 14 1m 22.005s 16 1m 23.847s
19 T.Marques 1m 21.421s 19 1m 21.644s 18 1m 22.447s 17 1m 24.424s
20 P.Lamy 1m 21.491s 20 1m 21.853s 19 1m 22.964s 18 1m 24.588s
21 L.Badoer 1m 23.174s 21 1m 22.872s 21 1m 26.331s 21 2m 9.332s
22 A.Montermini 1m 23.454s 22 1m 23.872s 20 1m 25.601s 19 1m 26.605s
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The Grid
Qualify
Pos Driver Pos Lap Time
1st row
1 D.Hill 1 1m 18.111s
2 R.Barrichello 2 1m 19.092s
2nd row
3 J.Villeneuve 3 1m 19.254s
4 M.Schumacher 4 1m 19.474s
3th row
5 J.Alesi 5 1m 19.484s
6 M.Brundle 6 1m 19.519s
4th row
7 E.Irvine 7 1m 19.591s
8 M.Hakkinen 8 1m 19.607s
5th row
9 G.Berger 9 1m 19.762s
10 H.Frentzen 10 1m 19.799s
6th row
11 M.Salo 11 1m 20.000s
12 J.Herbert 12 1m 20.144s
7th row
13 J.Verstappen 13 1m 20.157s
14 D.Coulthard 14 1m 20.167s
8th row
15 O.Panis 15 1m 20.426s
16 U.Katayma 16 1m 20.427s
9th row
17 R.Rosset 17 1m 20.440s
18 P.Diniz 18 1m 20.873s
10th row
19 T.Marques 19 1m 21.421s
20 P.Lamy 20 1m 21.491s
11th row
21 L.Badoer 21 1m 23.174s
22 A.Montermini 22 1m 23.454s
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Elem ...
Grand Prix of Brazil
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Weather: Raining, Sunny later
Lap Event
0 Start in very Heavy rain
1 All round safely
1 - Hill, Villeneuve Alesi, Barrichello, Schumacher
11 Barr battles Alesi
15 Hill starts to lap back cars
19 Vestappen into pits and retires
22 Coulthard into pits - out on slicks
24 Schumacher into pits 11.5s - out on wets
25 Coulthard fastest lap
26 Big shunt by Rosset into start line wall
27 Villeneuve slides into sand after he touches Alesi
28 Berg in pits and retires
28 - Hill, Alesi, Barrichello, Frentzen, Hakkinen, Schumacher, Brundle
30 Coulthard off into grass and retires
30 Hakkinen into pits 10.8s out on wets
30 Brundle into pits 12.8s out on wets
31 Alesi catching Hill
33 Barrichello into pits 10.0s out on wets
34 - Hill, Alesi, Salo, Irvine, Frentzen
35 Irvine into pits 10.2s out on wets
38 Alesi fastest lap 1m 35.148s
39 Alesi fastest lap 1m 35.132s
39 Hill into pits 11.2s out on slicks
40 Schumacher into pits 8.4s out on slicks
41 Alesi into pits 11.1s out on slicks
42 Barrichello into pits 7.6s out on slicks
43 Irvine into pits 5.8s out on slicks
45 Alesi fastest lap 1m 25.697s
46 - Hill, Alesi, Schumacher, Barrichello, Hakkinen, Salo, Panis
46 Hill fastest lap 1m 24.731s
48 Alesi fastest lap 1m 23.701s
49 Hill fastest lap 1m 23.170s
51 Hill fastest lap 1m 22.864s
51 Barrichello fastest lap 1m 22.493s
52 Alesi fastest lap 1m 22.306s
54 Hill fastest lap 1m 22.060s
54 - Hill, Alesi, Schumacher, Barrichello, Hakkinen, Salo, Panis
54 Sun is out and track is dry
56 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.932
56 Alesi fastest lap 1m 21.884s
57 Schumacher (2), Barrichello (3), Hill (1) in a tight group
60 Barrichello takes Schumacher but Schumacher gets back
60 Barrichello off into sand - retires
62 Hill laps Schumacher
64 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.623s
65 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.547s
65 Brundle (7) spins and retires
67 12 cars left
71 Hill wins
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1hr 49m 52.976s (Pole
Position)(Fastest
Race Lap: 1m 21.547s)
2 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 0m 17.982s
3 M.Schumacher Ferrari Laps behind: 1
4 M.Hakkinen McLaren Laps behind: 1
5 M.Salo Tyrrell Laps behind: 1
6 O.Panis Ligier Laps behind: 1
7 E.Irvine Ferrari Laps behind: 1
8 P.Diniz Ligier Laps behind: 2
9 U.Katayma Tyrrell Laps behind: 2
10 P.Lamy Minardi Laps behind: 3
11 L.Badoer Forti Laps behind: 4
12 M.Brundle Jordan Laps behind: 7
Retirements:
R.Barrichello Jordan Lap: 59 Reason:
H.Frentzen Sauber Lap: 36 Reason:
D.Coulthard McLaren Lap: 29 Reason:
J.Herbert Sauber Lap: 28 Reason:
A.Montermini Forti Lap: 26 Reason:
G.Berger Benetton Lap: 26 Reason:
J.Villeneuve Williams Lap: 26 Reason:
R.Rosset Footwork Lap: 24 Reason:
J.Verstappen Footwork Lap: 19 Reason:
T.Marques Minardi Lap: 0 Reason:
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Sledeća je velika nagrada Argentine ..za nedelju dana ...
auto-moto.112obren,
Svetski prvaci u konkurenciji vozača
1950. Giuseppe Farina (I) Alfa Romeo 159/59
1951. Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Alfa Romeo 159
1952. Alberto Ascari (I) Ferrari 500
1953. Alberto Ascari (I) Ferrari 500
1954. Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes W196/Maserati 250F
1955. Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes W196
1956. Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Lancia-Ferrari D50
1957. Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Maserati 250F
1958. Mike Hawthorn (GB) Ferrari Dino 246
1959. Jack Brabham (AUS) Cooper-Climax T51
1960. Jack Brabham (AUS) Cooper-Climax T53
1961. Phil Hill (USA) Ferrari Dino 156
1962. Graham Hill (GB) BRM P57
1963. Jim Clark (GB) Lotus-Climax P25
1964. Johan Surtees (GB) Ferrari 158
1965. Jim Clark (GB) Lotus-Climax 33
1966. Jack Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Repco BT19/BT20
1967. Denny Hulme (NZ) Brabham-Repco BT20/BT24
1968. Graham Hill (GB) Lotus-Ford 49/49B
1969. Jackie Stewart (GB) Matra-Ford MS10/MS80
1970. Jochen Rindt (AUT) Lotus-Ford 49C/72
1971. Jackie Stewart (GB) Tyrell-Ford 001/003
1972. Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) Lotus-Ford 72
1973. Jackie Stewart (GB) Tyrell-Ford 005/006
1974. Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) McLaren-Ford M23
1975. Niki Lauda (AUT) Ferrari 312T
1976. James Hunt (GB) McLaren-Ford M23
1977. Niki LAuda (AUT) Ferrari 312T2
1978. Mario Andretti (USA) Lotus-Ford 78/79
1979. Jody Scheckter (SA) Ferrari 312T3/12T4
1980. Alan Jones (AUS) Williams-Ford FW07B
1981. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-Ford BT49C
1982. Keke Rosberg (*) (SWE) Williams-Ford FW07C/FW08
1983. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-BMW BT52/BT52B
1984. Niki Lauda (AUT) McLaren-TAG Porsche MP4/2
1985. Alain Prost (FRA) McLaren-TAG Porsche MP4/2B
1986. Alain Prost (FRA) McLaren-TAG Porsche MP4/2C
1987. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Honda FW11B
1988. Ayrton Senna (BRA) McLaren-Honda MP4/4
1989. Alain Prost (FRA) McLaren-Honda MP4/5
1990. Ayrton Senna (BRA) McLaren-Honda MP4/5B
1991. Ayrton Senna (BRA) McLaren-Honda MP4/6
1992. Nigel Mansell (GB) Williams-Renault FW14B
1993. Alain PRost (FRA) Williams-Renault FW15C
1994. Michael Schumacher (D) Benetton-Renault B194
1995. Michael Schumacher (D) Benetton-Renault B195
auto-moto.113obren,
Svetski prvaci u konkurenciji konstruktora
1958. Vanwall
1959. Cooper-Climax
1960. Cooper-Climax
1961. Ferrari
1962. BRM
1963. Lotus-Climax
1964. Ferrari
1965. Lotus-Climax
1966. Brabham-Repco
1967. Brabham-Repco
1968. Lotus-Ford
1969. Matra-Ford
1970. Lotus-Ford
1971. Tyrell-Ford
1972. Lotus-Ford
1973. Lotus-Ford
1974. McLaren-Ford
1975. Ferrari
1976. Ferrari
1977. Ferrari
1978. Lotus-Ford
1979. Ferrari
1980. Williams-Ford
1981. Williams-Ford
1982. Ferrari
1983. Ferrari
1984. McLaren-TAG Porsche
1985. McLaren-TAG Porsche
1986. Williams-Honda
1987. Williams-Honda
1988. McLaren-Honda
1989. McLaren-Honda
1990. McLaren-Honda
1991. McLaren-Honda
1992. Williams-Renault
1993. Williams-Renault
1994. Williams-Renault
1995. Benetton-Renault
.
co wri auto
Vozači sa najviše GP pobeda
Alain Prost (FRA) 51
Ayrton Senna (BRA) 41
Nigel Mansell (GB) 31
Jackie Stewart (GB) 27
Jim Clark (GB) 25
Niki Lauda (AUT) 25
Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) 24
Nelson Piquet (BRA) 23
Michael Schumacher (D) 19
Stirling Moss (GB) 16
Jack Brabham (AUS) 14
Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) 14
Graham Hill (GB) 14
Alberto Ascari (ITA) 13
Damon Hill (GB) 13
Mario Andretti (USA) 12
Alan Jones (AUS) 12
Carlos Reutemann (ARG) 12
Gerhard Berger (AUT) 10
James Hunt (GB) 10
Ronnie Peterson (SWE) 10
Jody Scheckter (SA) 10
Vozači sa najviše pol pozicija
Ayrton Senna (BRA) 65
Jim Clark (GB) 33
Alain Prost (FRA) 33
Nigel Mansell (GB) 32
Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) 28
Niki Lauda (AUT) 24
Nelson Piquet (BRA) 24
Mario Andretti (USA) 18
Rene Arnoux (FRA) 18
Jackie Stewart (GB) 17
Stirling Moss (GB) 16
Alberto Ascari (ITA) 14
James Hunt (GB) 14
Ronnie Peterson (SWE) 14
Jack Brabham (AUS) 13
Graham Hill (GB) 13
Jacky Ickx (B) 13
Damon Hill (GB) 11
Gerhard Berger (AUT) 11
Jochen Rindt (AUT) 10
Michael Schumacher (D) 10
auto-moto.114obren,
Zanimljivosti iz F1:
Najviše pobeda u jednoj GP sezoni:
Po devet, Schumacher (1995) i Mansell (1992)
Najviše uzastopnih trijumfa na jednoj stazi:
Ayrton Senna, pet puta za redom (1989-93) u Monacu
Najmlađi pobednik jedne trke:
Bruce McLaren (22 godina i 104 dana)
Najastariji pobednik:
Luigi Fagoli (53 godine)
Vozači sa najviše GP poena:
1. Alain Prost 798.5
2. Ayrton Senna 610
3. Nelson Piquet 485.5
4. Nigel Mansell 480
5. Niki Lauda 420
Najviše pobeda u jednoj sezoni:
Ukupno 15, McLaren-Honda (Senna/Prost)
Najviše uzastopnih pobeda u jednoj sezoni:
Uzastopno 11 puta, McLaren-Honda (Senna/Prost)
Najviše poena ikada osvojenih u jednoj sezoni:
Ukupno 199, McLaren-Honda (Senna/Prost)
Ekipa sa najviše polpozicija:
Ferrari, ukupno 114
Ekipa sa najviše uzastopnih polpozicija:
Williams-Renault, uzastopno 24 polpozicije
Najviše polpozicija u jednoj sezoni:
Nigel Mansell, ukupno 14
Najviše uzastopnih polpozicija u jednoj sezoni:
Alain Prost, uzastopno 7 puta
Najmlađi učesnik jedne trke:
Mike Thrackwell (19 godina i 182 dana)
Najstariji učesnik jedne trke:
Louis Chiron (55 godina i 292 dana)
Najveća prosečna brzina ostvarena na nekoj trci:
258.984 km/h na trci u Silverstonu 1985, Keke Rosberg (Williams-Honda)
Najmanja vremenska razlika između pobednika i drugoplasiranog:
GP trka u Italiji 1971, Gethin nadmašio Petersona za 0.01 sec.
Trka sa najmanje bolida koji su završili cilj:
Monako 1966, samo 4 bolida
Najkraća GP trka:
Australija 1991. samo 24 min 34 sec ili 14 krugova
auto-moto.115wiper,
Ljudima koji imaju EuroSport
Cekamo prve rezultate sa treninga u Argentini
---------------------------------------------
auto-moto.116wiper,
Sta kazete na voznju Baricela u Brazilu.
Nema sta Jordan sa Pezom je iz svake trke
sve bolji i bolji. Decko mnogo obecava.
Ipak Brazil ne moze a da nema jednog dobrog
pilota u velikom cirkusu.
auto-moto.117space.ace,
--> Damon Hill (GB) 13
!!
Da nije možda 14!!!
auto-moto.118obren,
> --> Damon Hill (GB) 13
> Da nije možda 14!!!
Da nije možda 15? ;)
Podaci su DO početka ove sezone...
auto-moto.119cdragan,
Formula 1: Argentinian Grand Prix
2nd Free Practice
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Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill 1m 29.694s 3 1m 31.909s
2 M.Schumacher 1m 29.799s 1 1m 30.893s
3 J.Alesi 1m 30.019s 8 1m 32.814s
4 M.Hakkinen 1m 30.033s 0 0m 0.000s
5 M.Salo 1m 30.140s 6 1m 32.198s
6 H.Frentzen 1m 30.497s 9 1m 32.817s
7 R.Barrichello 1m 30.766s 5 1m 32.197s
8 D.Coulthard 1m 30.770s 2 1m 31.598s
9 G.Berger 1m 30.890s 10 1m 32.963s
10 O.Panis 1m 31.013s 11 1m 33.153s
11 J.Villeneuve 1m 31.082s 7 1m 32.461s
12 E.Irvine 1m 31.368s 12 1m 33.218s
13 U.Katayma 1m 31.408s 13 1m 33.272s
14 P.Lamy 1m 31.811s 15 1m 34.842s
15 J.Herbert 1m 32.038s 16 1m 35.721s
16 J.Verstappen 1m 32.084s 4 1m 32.084s
17 M.Brundle 1m 32.176s 14 1m 34.592s
18 T.Marques 1m 32.359s 18 1m 35.730s
19 P.Diniz 1m 32.819s 17 1m 35.724s
20 R.Rosset 1m 32.833s 19 1m 36.002s
21 A.Montermini 1m 34.103s 21 1m 36.911s
22 L.Badoer 1m 35.044s 20 1m 36.282s
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Formula 1: Argentinian Grand Prix
Qualifying
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Session Resume:
Weather: Sunny, windy
Time Event
0:00 Session Open
0:07 Pole - Marques 1m 35.258s
0:08 Pole - Marques 1m 33.973s
0:10 Pole - Marques 1m 33.912s
0:18 Pole - Barrichello 1m 32.457s
0:20 Brundle in and out of sand on first lap
0:30 Pole - Schumacher 1m 30.812s
0:30 Grid: Schumacher, Barrichello, Brundle, Diniz, Lamy, Marques
0:32 3rd - Frentzen 1m 32.130s
0:32 4th - Coulthard 1m 32.742s
0:37 2nd - Alesi 1m 31.434s
0:37 3rd - Hill 1m 31.527s
0:37 Grid: Schumacher, Alesi, Hill, Barrichello, Frentzen, Coulthard
0:38 Alesi runs back to pits after he spins and stalls
0:38 2nd - Hill 1m 31.373s
0:39 4th - Berger 1m 31.479s
0:40 2nd - Villeneuve 1m 30.907s
0:40 Grid: Schumacher, Villeneuve, Hill, Alesi, Berger, Verstappen
0:53 3rd - Alesi 1m 31.038s
0:56 Pole - Hill 1m 30.346s
1:02 The End
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Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free 1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill 1m 30.346s 0 0m 0.000s 1 1m 29.694s 3 1m 31.909s
2 M.Schumacher 1m 30.598s 0 0m 0.000s 2 1m 29.799s 1 1m 30.893s
3 J.Villeneuve 1m 30.907s 0 0m 0.000s 11 1m 31.082s 7 1m 32.461s
4 J.Alesi 1m 31.038s 0 0m 0.000s 3 1m 30.019s 8 1m 32.814s
5 G.Berger 1m 31.262s 0 0m 0.000s 9 1m 30.890s 10 1m 32.963s
6 R.Barrichello 1m 31.404s 0 0m 0.000s 7 1m 30.766s 5 1m 32.197s
7 J.Verstappen 1m 31.615s 0 0m 0.000s 16 1m 32.084s 4 1m 32.084s
8 M.Hakkinen 1m 31.801s 0 0m 0.000s 4 1m 30.033s 0 0m 0.000s
9 D.Coulthard 1m 32.001s 0 0m 0.000s 8 1m 30.770s 2 1m 31.598s
10 E.Irvine 1m 32.058s 0 0m 0.000s 12 1m 31.368s 12 1m 33.218s
11 H.Frentzen 1m 32.130s 0 0m 0.000s 6 1m 30.497s 9 1m 32.817s
12 O.Panis 1m 32.177s 0 0m 0.000s 10 1m 31.013s 11 1m 33.153s
13 U.Katayma 1m 32.407s 0 0m 0.000s 13 1m 31.408s 13 1m 33.272s
14 T.Marques 1m 32.502s 0 0m 0.000s 18 1m 32.359s 18 1m 35.730s
15 M.Brundle 1m 32.696s 0 0m 0.000s 17 1m 32.176s 14 1m 34.592s
16 M.Salo 1m 32.903s 0 0m 0.000s 5 1m 30.140s 6 1m 32.198s
17 J.Herbert 1m 33.256s 0 0m 0.000s 15 1m 32.038s 16 1m 35.721s
18 P.Diniz 1m 33.424s 0 0m 0.000s 19 1m 32.819s 17 1m 35.724s
19 P.Lamy 1m 33.727s 0 0m 0.000s 14 1m 31.811s 15 1m 34.842s
20 R.Rosset 1m 33.752s 0 0m 0.000s 20 1m 32.833s 19 1m 36.002s
21 L.Badoer 1m 34.830s 0 0m 0.000s 22 1m 35.044s 20 1m 36.282s
22 A.Montermini 1m 35.651s 0 0m 0.000s 21 1m 34.103s 21 1m 36.911s
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The Grid
Qualify
Pos Driver Pos Lap Time
1st row
1 D.Hill 1 1m 30.346s
2 M.Schumacher 2 1m 30.598s
2nd row
3 J.Villeneuve 3 1m 30.907s
4 J.Alesi 4 1m 31.038s
3th row
5 G.Berger 5 1m 31.262s
6 R.Barrichello 6 1m 31.404s
4th row
7 J.Verstappen 7 1m 31.615s
8 M.Hakkinen 8 1m 31.801s
5th row
9 D.Coulthard 9 1m 32.001s
10 E.Irvine 10 1m 32.058s
6th row
11 H.Frentzen 11 1m 32.130s
12 O.Panis 12 1m 32.177s
7th row
13 U.Katayma 13 1m 32.407s
14 T.Marques 14 1m 32.502s
8th row
15 M.Brundle 15 1m 32.696s
16 M.Salo 16 1m 32.903s
9th row
17 J.Herbert 17 1m 33.256s
18 P.Diniz 18 1m 33.424s
10th row
19 P.Lamy 19 1m 33.727s
20 R.Rosset 20 1m 33.752s
11th row
21 L.Badoer 21 1m 34.830s
22 A.Montermini 22 1m 35.651s
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auto-moto.121wiper,
Evo taze rezultata sa Velike nagrade Argentine
1. D.Hill
2. J.Villeneuve
3. J.Alesi
4. R.Barrichello
5. E.Irvine
6. J.Verstappen
7. D.Coulhard
1. Williams 16p
2. Benetton 4p
3. Jordan 3p
4. Ferrari 2p
Izvinjavam se sto inf. nisu potpune jer sam ih pisao po secanju
pa ne znam za mesta od 7 - 10.
A i nisam siguran dali Verstappen vozi za Footwork
auto-moto.122cdragan,
Argentina 96: The Result
Weather: Sunny
Lap Event
0 Bad start by Villeneuve - drops back to 10th
0 All round first lap OK
1 Pos: Hill,Schumacher,Alesi,Berger,Coulthard,Barrichello
3 Schumacher fastest lap
5 Villeneuve up to 6th
6 Berger fastest lap 1m 31.570s
6 Hill fastest lap 1m 31.407s
10 Hill fastest lap 1m 31.158s
10 Villeneuve up to 5th
11 Villeneuve fastest lap 1m 31.093s
12 Alesi fastest lap 1m 30.796s
19 Hakkinen into pits and retires
21 Schumacher into pits (7.1s) out in 4th
22 Alesi into pits (5.0s) out in 4th
24 Hill into pits (9.6s) out in 1st
24 Berger into pits (7.9s)
25 Villeneuve into pits (11.8s)
25 Pos: Hill, Schumacher, Alesi, Villeneuve, Berger
26 Bado spins off and rolls upside down
26 Safety car on track - call cars bunch up behind it
26 Bado out of car OK
30 Fuel leak causes Diniz to explodes in flames on braking
30 Diniz out OK -
32 Safety car into pits
32 Frentzen off into sand and retires
37 Hill fastest lap 1m 30.116s
38 Hill fastest lap 1m 29.847s
39 Schumacher into pits (12.6s)
41 Alesi fastest lap 1m 29.711s
42 Alesi fastest lap 1m 29.537s
44 Alesi (2nd) into pits - stalls out in 9th
45 Alesi (9) gets past Schumacher (8)
46 Schumacher into pits and retires
47 Berger into pits (8.6s)
47 Irvine into pits (10.3s)
49 Villeneuve into pits (7.8s) out in 3rd
49 Pos: Hill, Berger, Villeneuve, Coulthard, Alesi, Barrichello
50 Coulthard into pits (7.2s) out in 6th
51 Hill (1) into pits (7.7s) out in 1st
56 Berger into pits (6.2s) out in 4th
57 Berger drives off track and retires
66 Alesi (2) fastest lap 1m 29.413s
72 Hill wins
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1hr 54m 55.322s (Pole Position)
2 J.Villeneuve Williams Gap 0m 12.167s
3 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 0m 14.754s (Fastest Race Lap: 1m
2
9.413s)
4 R.Barrichello Jordan Gap 0m 55.131s
5 E.Irvine Ferrari Gap 1m 4.991s
6 J.Verstappen Footwork Gap 1m 8.913s
7 D.Coulthard McLaren Gap 1m 13.400s
8 O.Panis Ligier Gap 1m 14.295s
9 J.Herbert Sauber Laps behind: 1
10 A.Montermini Forti Laps behind: 3
Retirements:
G.Berger Benetton Lap: 56
M.Schumacher Ferrari Lap: 46
P.Lamy Minardi Lap: 39
M.Salo Tyrrell Lap: 36
M.Brundle Jordan Lap: 34
T.Marques Minardi Lap: 33
H.Frentzen Sauber Lap: 32
P.Diniz Ligier Lap: 29
U.Katayma Tyrrell Lap: 28
L.Badoer Forti Lap: 24
R.Rosset Footwork Lap: 24
M.Hakkinen McLaren Lap: 19
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Formula 1 Tables:
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
1 D.Hill 30
2 J.Villeneuve 12
3 J.Alesi 10
4 E.Irvine 6
5 M.Hakkinen 5
6 M.Schumacher 4
7 R.Barrichello 3
M.Salo 3
G.Berger 3
10 J.Verstappen 1
O.Panis 1
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
1 Williams 42
2 Benetton 13
3 Ferrari 10
4 McLaren 5
5 Jordan 3
Tyrrell 3
7 Footwork 1
Ligier 1
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auto-moto.123space.ace,
--> Sta kazete na voznju Baricela u Brazilu.
Sinak stvarno dobro ganja Pežoa. Odličan je!!!
auto-moto.124space.ace,
--> Da nije možda 15? ;)
E, pa nije. Tj. sad jeste, posle pobede u Argentini. Da si malo obratio
pažnju na spisak, video bi i da je Graham Hill imao 13 pobeda, a Damon je
to izjednačio pobedom u Australiji. Što znači da sam ja ipak bio u pravu
;))
Sad ima 15 pobeda, i rešen je da osvoji šampionat. Vala i red je!
Šta reći o trci?
Početak uzbudjliv, prvi deo nezanimljiv, izletanja cool, drugi deo intere-
santan, treći zanimljiv, završnica poznata.
Dupla kruna, to mi se sviđa.
auto-moto.125lexus,
=> E, pa nije. Tj. sad jeste, posle pobede u Argentini. Da si malo
=> obratio pažnju na spisak, video bi i da je Graham Hill imao 13
=> pobeda, a Damon je to izjednačio pobedom u Australiji. Što znači da
=> sam ja ipak bio u pravu ;))
Graham Hill je imao 15 pobeda, a Damon ga je jučerašnjom pobedom
pretekao, dakle Damon ima 16 pobeda!
Schumaher ima 19 i videćemo hoće li Hill uspeti i njega da pređe
do kraja sezone!
Sudeći po onome što su bolidi do sada pokazali, Hill ima ogromne
šanse za to!!! Inače, sada se prelazi u Evropu i verujem da
će Villeneuve pokazati više nego na dosadašnje tri trke, tipujem
na njega za Moncu, San Marino i Monako!!! Alesi će sigurno osvojiti
jednu pobedu, a Šumaher najmanje dve i Hillu, iako imao ovoliku
prednost, neće biti lako do kraja sezone...
Williams će osvojiti titulu konstruktora, ali to se vidi iz aviona :)
auto-moto.126obren,
> E, pa nije. Tj. sad jeste, posle pobede u Argentini. Da si malo
> obratio pažnju na spisak, video bi i da je Graham Hill imao 13
> pobeda, a Damon je to izjednačio pobedom u Australiji. Što znači da
> sam ja ipak bio u pravu ;))
>
> Sad ima 15 pobeda, i rešen je da osvoji šampionat. Vala i red je!
E baš si tvrdoglav... ;) Otac mu je imao 14 pobeda, što je on
dostigao pobedom u Australiji. Već u Brazilu ga je prestigao i
sada, posle pobede u Argentini, ima 16 pobeda. Čudi me da nisi
čuo kada su glupan & tupan to pomenuli za vreme trke. Ili si
čuo ali loše... :)
Inače, trka je bila uzbudljiva samo u početku, dok nije bilo jasno
da Šumaher vozi sa skoro praznim rezervoarom ne bili se izborio za
vodeću poziciju. Posle je postalo (bar meni) totalno nezanimljivo.
Alezi je (možda) mogao da bude drugi da nije onoliko neozbiljan da
mu se ugasi motor u pit-u. To mu se dešavalo i prošle sezone...
Drago mi je da je Baričelo konačno uspeo da završi trku kada je dobro
plasiran. Žao mi je što to nije uradio na prošloj, ali šta se može...
Kultard izgleda "briljira" u McLarenu, pa me neće čuditi ako ga šutnu
iz ekipe uskoro ukoliko se ne popravi. Možda uleti Jan Magnusen...
Mislim da će ove godine trke na iole bržim stazama biti uglavnom "smešne"
zbog nadmoći bolida Williamsa, ali sigurno će biti i drugih pobednika
osim Hill-a. Takođe, slažem se da Žak ima šanse za pobedu na nekim
stazama u Evropi koje bolje poznaje...
auto-moto.127senna,
Ljudima koji F1 gledaju na 3. kanalu mogu samo da izjavim svoje
saucesce :(((. Silom prilika gledao sam deo prenosa na 3K, i ono sto sam
video bilo je strasno, posebno onaj deo kada su racunali koliko ce koga da
kosta pozar.... Svasta,ja sam mislio da prenose trku,a ne da pricaju sta je
Sumaherova pudlica jela pre tri nedelje.
auto-moto.128vimm,
> video bilo je strasno, posebno onaj deo kada su racunali koliko ce koga
> da kosta pozar.... Svasta,ja sam mislio da prenose trku,a ne da pricaju
Ovo im ne bih zamerio. Nikako. Nešto drugo možda.
Ali, pošto si prenos gledao "silom prilika" verovatno nisi primetio
da su požar komentarisali za vreme prekida trke dok se na stazi nalazio
pace car.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.129lexus,
=> Ljudima koji F1 gledaju na 3. kanalu mogu samo da izjavim svoje
=> saucesce :(((. Silom prilika gledao sam deo prenosa na 3K, i ono
Hvala :(
=> sto sam video bilo je strasno, posebno onaj deo kada su racunali
=> koliko ce koga da kosta pozar.... Svasta,ja sam mislio da prenose
=> trku,a ne da pricaju sta je Sumaherova pudlica jela pre tri
=> nedelje.
Najbolje bi bilo isključiti ton, ali se onda ne čuje zvuk motora :(
A izjave tipa "Gledamo atraktivne kadrove zapaljenog bolida" i
"Damon Hill je pre tri godine tražio pare ispod tepiha" su zaista
očaj! Ili kada je Hill prvi put ušao u boks :)))) Hill izlazi iz
boksa i vidi se da je i Berger ušao u boks, a biseri kažu:"Videćemo
hoće li Deeejmon uspeti da izadje na stazu pre Bergera" :))))
auto-moto.130madamov,
> 1982. Keke Rosberg (*) (SWE) Williams-Ford FW07C/FW08
Možda grešim, ali zar Rozberg nije Finac? I šta znači zvezdica pored imena?
> 1981. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-Ford BT49C
> 1983. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-BMW BT52/BT52B
> 1987. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Honda FW11B
Zna li neko gde je i šta radi ovaj čovek?
auto-moto.131obren,
> Možda grešim, ali zar Rozberg nije Finac? I šta znači zvezdica
> pored imena?
Hteo sam da dodam fusnotu da je čovek te godine osvojio šampionat a da
nije dobio ni jednu trku, ali sam zaboravio nakon prekucavanja :)
Za "podrijetlo" ne znam... Moguće da je greška - preneo sam podatke
iz aprilskog broja Vrelih Guma.
auto-moto.132stevicm,
>> 1987. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Honda FW11B
>
> Zna li neko gde je i sta radi ovaj covek?
Ako se dobro secam, Pike je imao neku nesrecu i posle toga je na-
pustio sve oblike staza i trka :(! Covek je odlican vozac i steta
sto je tako zavrsio.
auto-moto.133obren,
Pravila Formule 1 za sezonu 1996.
(Izvor: "Vrele Gume", broj 24, april '96)
f1_rules.zipauto-moto.134space.ace,
--> Graham Hill je imao 15 pobeda, a Damon ga je jučerašnjom pobedom
--> pretekao, dakle Damon ima 16 pobeda!
Ovde niko ne gleda obren-ov spisak. Lepo piše da je Graham imao 14,
što znači da ni ja a bogami ni ti nisi u pravu (što se tiče Grejema)
auto-moto.135space.ace,
--> sada, posle pobede u Argentini, ima 16 pobeda. Čudi me da nisi
--> čuo kada su glupan & tupan to pomenuli za vreme trke. Ili si
--> čuo ali loše... :)
U principu ne gledam glupana & tupana. Gledao sam samo film. Preferiram
originalan prevod (sa EUROSPORT-a, by me)...
auto-moto.136madamov,
> Hteo sam da dodam fusnotu da je čovek te godine osvojio šampionat a da
> nije dobio ni jednu trku, ali sam zaboravio nakon prekucavanja :)
Nije tačno, osvojio je samo jednu te sezone i tako je ušao u istoriji kao
jedini pobednik šampionata sa pobedom u samo jednoj trci. Inače, te sezone
niko nije osvojio dve trke, svaku trku je dobi drugi vozač.
auto-moto.138space.ace,
--> jedini pobednik šampionata sa pobedom u samo jednoj trci. Inače,
--> te sezone niko nije osvojio dve trke, svaku trku je dobi drugi
--> vozač.
To je FORMULA 1 !!!!! To nam dajte...
auto-moto.139djcorto,
> Mozda gresim, ali zar Rozberg nije Finac? I sta znaci zvezdica
> pored imena?
Jeste Finac ... Svedjani su bolji reli nego F1 vozaci.
Mada, da se ispravim, jedan od meni omiljenih je bio Roni
Peterson ... izgore u Monci na pravdi Boga :(
auto-moto.140space.ace,
Indy Car.
Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach.
Dominacija Firestona i Hondinih motora, Gil De Ferran vodio celu trku, ali
dogodio mu se kvar na motoru, i 4 kruga pre kraja gubi prvu poziciju i pada
na peto mesto. Prvo mesto je preuzeo Jimmy Vasser, drugi P. Johnstone, koji
je napravi come-back u Indy, treći je Al Unser Jr. a četvrti Paul Tracy.
Jimmy Vasser-u je ovo treća pobeda ove sezone, voženo je 4 trke. Sledeća trka
je Grand Oval of Nazareth, za dve nedelje. Be there!!!
auto-moto.141vpoznanovic,
>> Možda grešim, ali zar Rozberg nije Finac?
Naravno da je Finac.
>>> 1987. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Honda FW11B
>>
>> Zna li neko gde je i šta radi ovaj čovek?
Prema posljednjim informacijama koje imam, Piquet će zajedno sa Mariom
Andrettijem nastupiti na ovogodišnjoj trci "24 sata Le Mana", koja će se
održati 15. juna. On će voziti McLaren, a Andretti Courage.
auto-moto.142vpoznanovic,
>> Inače, te sezone niko nije osvojio dve trke, svaku trku je dobi drugi
>> vozač.
Odakle ti taj podatak, Milane? U sezoni 1982., kad je Rosberg bio
šampion, po dvije pobjede su imali ni manje ni više nego Prost, Lauda,
Pironi, Arnoux i Watson.
auto-moto.143madamov,
> Odakle ti taj podatak, Milane?
Ne sećam se, pročitah negde ili čuh od nekog pre par godina, pa sam od tada
pogrešno informisan. B)
> po dvije pobjede su imali ni manje ni više nego Prost, Lauda,
> Pironi, Arnoux i Watson.
A Rosberg jednu? Možda otud moja dezinformacija. Izvinjavam se auditorijumu.
auto-moto.144dusko,
I po mojim izvorima Rozberg je te sezone uzeo titulu bez ijednog 1.
mesta.
Pozdrav,
Dusko
auto-moto.145djcorto,
Ima li sutra i preksutra sta ? ;)
auto-moto.146lexus,
=> Ima li sutra i preksutra sta ? ;)
Derbi!?! ;>>>
auto-moto.147cdragan,
> Ima li sutra i preksutra sta ? ;)
jao .. ja zamalo da zaboravim ;)
Formula 1: European Grand Prix
2nd Free Practice
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Session Resume:
Weather: Sunny, warm
Best time from the first session was Hill 1m 20.853s,
Schumacher 2nd, Verstappen 3rd.
Footwork in new colours with a new sponsor - POWER HORSE
Brundle running with the central fin
Time Event
02 First out Schumacher
04 1m 22.893s Schumacher
06 1m 23.144s Schumacher
Top Six: Hill,Schumacher,Verstappen,Hakkinen,Salo,Barrichello
12 1m 25.317s Villeneuve
15 1m 23.588s Hill
16 1m 22.869s Villeneuve - now 11th
17 1m 24.094s Coulthard
20 1m 24.843s Panis
21 1m 24.865s Brundle
24 1m 23.368s Salo
28 1m 23.163s Irvine
29 1m 23.151s Frentzen
31 1m 23.677s Verstappen
32 1m 23.416s Villeneuve
No-one is faster than the morning session yet. Suspect this is due to the
slightly higher temperature and the change in humidity. So far
everyone (except Irvine) have been using this mornings tyres.
34 1m 22.678s Villeneuve - now 10th
38 1m 22.363s Hill
40 1m 21.873s Hill
41 1m 23.205s Panis
44 Villeneuve - now 6th
45 1m 22.571s Brundle - now 6th
Top Six: Hill,Schumacher,Verstappen,Hakkinen,Salo,Brundle
47 1m 22.435s Brundle
47 1m 22.605s Herbert - now 7th
48 1m 22.174s Brundle - now 5th
Top Six: Hill,Schumacher,Verstappen,Hakkinen,Brundle,Salo
At the moment Berger is 10th and Alesi 15th
50 1m 22.700s Alesi - now 13th
51 1m 21.973s Alesi - now 3rd
53 1m 22.935s Schumacher
Top Six: Hill,Schumacher,Alesi,Barrichello,Verstappen,Hakkinen
56 1m 22.633s Coulthard
56 1m 21.542s Hakkinen - now 3rd
58 1m 21.478s Hakkinen
58 1m 23.072s Verstappen - unfortunately blocked by Alesi on the last
corner
59 1m 22.618s Alesi
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Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill 1m 20.853s 1 1m 20.853s
2 M.Schumacher 1m 21.332s 2 1m 21.332s
3 M.Hakkinen 1m 21.478s 4 1m 22.110s
4 O.Panis 1m 21.858s 11 1m 22.955s
5 D.Coulthard 1m 21.962s 8 1m 22.649s
6 J.Alesi 1m 21.973s 13 1m 23.554s
7 R.Barrichello 1m 22.014s 6 1m 22.630s
8 J.Verstappen 1m 22.093s 3 1m 22.093s
9 M.Brundle 1m 22.112s 15 1m 23.654s
10 H.Frentzen 1m 22.152s 10 1m 22.706s
11 M.Salo 1m 22.215s 5 1m 22.215s
12 J.Villeneuve 1m 22.453s 14 1m 23.601s
13 J.Herbert 1m 22.525s 12 1m 23.332s
14 G.Berger 1m 22.631s 7 1m 22.631s
15 E.Irvine 1m 22.668s 9 1m 22.668s
16 R.Rosset 1m 23.745s 16 1m 23.818s
17 P.Lamy 1m 23.904s 17 1m 23.904s
18 U.Katayma 1m 24.014s 19 1m 24.353s
19 G.Fisichella 1m 24.196s 18 1m 24.196s
20 P.Diniz 1m 24.406s 20 1m 24.406s
---- 107% ----
21 L.Badoer 1m 26.832s 21 1m 26.832s
22 A.Montermini 1m 27.605s 22 1m 27.605s
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Session Resume:
Weather: Cloudy
Time Event
0: 1 5 cars on track
0: 2 Hakkinen starts fast lap
0: 3 Hakkinen engine blows after 100m
0: 5 1m 22.970s - M.Salo
0: 5 1m 24.810s - R.Barrichello
0: 5 Current Positions: [1] Salo, [2] Barric
0: 5 1m 21.280s - R.Barrichello
0: 5 Current Positions: [1] Barric, [2] Salo
0: 6 1m 21.150s - R.Barrichello
0:10 Villeneuve on track
0:11 1m 21.780s - D.Coulthard
0:11 1m 21.710s - M.Brundle
0:11 Current Positions: [1] Barric, [2] Brundl, [3] Coulth, [4] Salo
0:12 1m 20.820s - J.Villeneuve
0:12 Current Positions: [1] Villen, [2] Barric, [3] Brundl, [4] Coulth,
[5
] Salo
0:13 1m 20.330s - J.Villeneuve
0:15 1m 21.110s - H.Frentzen
0:15 1m 21.650s - O.Panis
0:15 Current Positions: [1] Villen, [2] Frentz, [3] Barric, [4] Panis,
[5]
Brundl, [6] Coulth
0:16 1m 21.290s - E.Irvine
0:16 Current Positions: [1] Villen, [2] Frentz, [3] Barric, [4] Irvine,
[5
] Panis, [6] Brundl
0:19 1m 21.100s - J.Alesi
0:19 Current Positions: [1] Villen, [2] Alesi, [3] Frentz, [4] Barric,
[5]
Irvine, [6] Panis
0:20 1m 21.650s - M.Brundle
0:20 Current Positions: [1] Villen, [2] Alesi, [3] Frentz, [4] Barric,
[5]
Irvine, [6] Brundl
0:21 1m 21.010s - J.Alesi
0:21 1m 19.930s - D.Hill
0:21 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Alesi, [4] Frentz, [5]
B
arric, [6] Irvine
0:23 1m 20.020s - D.Hill
0:26 1m 21.050s - G.Berger
0:26 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Alesi, [4] Berger, [5]
F
rentz, [6] Barric
0:27 Schumacher on track
0:29 1m 20.290s - M.Schumacher
0:29 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Schuma, [3] Villen, [4] Alesi, [5]
B
erger, [6] Frentz
0:32 1m 20.930s - E.Irvine
0:32 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Schuma, [3] Villen, [4] Irvine,
[5]
Alesi, [6] Berger
0:33 1m 20.960s - J.Alesi
0:35 Hakkinen in spare car
0:38 Hakkinen in 16th
0:40 1m 18.940s - D.Hill
0:42 1m 20.820s - R.Barrichello
0:42 1m 20.890s - D.Coulthard
0:42 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Schuma, [3] Villen, [4] Barric,
[5]
Coulth, [6] Irvine
0:44 1m 19.740s - J.Villeneuve
0:44 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Schuma, [4] Barric,
[5]
Coulth, [6] Irvine
0:45 1m 19.720s - J.Villeneuve
0:48 1m 23.020s - M.Schumacher
0:50 1m 20.150s - M.Schumacher
0:50 1m 20.710s - J.Alesi
0:50 Alesi off into gravel and stalls - retires
0:50 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Schuma, [4] Alesi, [5]
B
arric, [6] Coulth
0:56 1m 21.490s - G.Berger
1: 0 Berger in 8th
1: 0 Hakkinen in 9th
1: 1 1m 20.280s - M.Schumacher
1: 1 THE END
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Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free 1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill 1m 18.941s 1 1m 19.546s 1 1m 20.853s 1 1m 20.853s
2 J.Villeneuve 1m 19.721s 3 1m 20.169s 12 1m 22.453s 14 1m 23.601s
3 M.Schumacher 1m 20.149s 2 1m 19.946s 2 1m 21.332s 2 1m 21.332s
4 J.Alesi 1m 20.711s 10 1m 21.318s 6 1m 21.973s 13 1m 23.554s
5 R.Barrichello 1m 20.818s 5 1m 20.500s 7 1m 22.014s 6 1m 22.630s
6 D.Coulthard 1m 20.888s 7 1m 20.953s 5 1m 21.962s 8 1m 22.649s
7 E.Irvine 1m 20.931s 11 1m 21.388s 15 1m 22.668s 9 1m 22.668s
8 G.Berger 1m 21.054s 4 1m 20.385s 14 1m 22.631s 7 1m 22.631s
9 M.Hakkinen 1m 21.078s 6 1m 20.732s 3 1m 21.478s 4 1m 22.110s
10 H.Frentzen 1m 21.113s 8 1m 21.234s 10 1m 22.152s 10 1m 22.706s
11 M.Brundle 1m 21.177s 12 1m 21.554s 9 1m 22.112s 15 1m 23.654s
12 J.Herbert 1m 21.210s 16 1m 22.080s 13 1m 22.525s 12 1m 23.332s
13 J.Verstappen 1m 21.367s 14 1m 21.592s 8 1m 22.093s 3 1m 22.093s
14 M.Salo 1m 21.458s 13 1m 21.578s 11 1m 22.215s 5 1m 22.215s
15 O.Panis 1m 21.509s 9 1m 21.251s 4 1m 21.858s 11 1m 22.955s
16 U.Katayma 1m 21.812s 15 1m 21.665s 18 1m 24.014s 19 1m 24.353s
17 P.Diniz 1m 22.733s 17 1m 22.326s 20 1m 24.406s 20 1m 24.406s
18 G.Fisichella 1m 22.921s 20 1m 23.586s 19 1m 24.196s 18 1m 24.196s
19 P.Lamy 1m 23.139s 18 1m 23.214s 17 1m 23.904s 17 1m 23.904s
20 R.Rosset 1m 23.620s 19 1m 23.485s 16 1m 23.745s 16 1m 23.818s
---- 107% ----
21 A.Montermini 1m 25.053s 22 1m 26.453s 22 1m 27.605s 22 1m 27.605s
22 L.Badoer 1m 25.840s 21 1m 25.572s 21 1m 26.832s 21 1m 26.832s
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The Grid:
Qualify
Pos Driver Pos Lap Time
1st row
1 D.Hill 1 1m 18.941s
2 J.Villeneuve 2 1m 19.721s
2nd row
3 M.Schumacher 3 1m 20.149s
4 J.Alesi 4 1m 20.711s
3th row
5 R.Barrichello 5 1m 20.818s
6 D.Coulthard 6 1m 20.888s
4th row
7 E.Irvine 7 1m 20.931s
8 G.Berger 8 1m 21.054s
5th row
9 M.Hakkinen 9 1m 21.078s
10 H.Frentzen 10 1m 21.113s
6th row
11 M.Brundle 11 1m 21.177s
12 J.Herbert 12 1m 21.210s
7th row
13 J.Verstappen 13 1m 21.367s
14 M.Salo 14 1m 21.458s
8th row
15 O.Panis 15 1m 21.509s
16 U.Katayma 16 1m 21.812s
9th row
17 P.Diniz 17 1m 22.733s
18 G.Fisichella 18 1m 22.921s
10th row
19 P.Lamy 19 1m 23.139s
20 R.Rosset 20 1m 23.620s
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auto-moto.149dusko,
> * Watch F1 live on the Internet *
> * see http://www.monaco.mc/f1/live.html *
Jel', bre, cdr, opet za*ebaš narod?
Nemamo mi 70Mbit link. ;)
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.150dusko,
> Ima li sutra i preksutra sta ? ;)
Nirburgring, a sledeće nedelje Imola.
Pozdrav,
Duško
P.S.: Al' bi bilo lepo kad bi vozili svake nedelje :)
auto-moto.151sav.gacic,
>> Mozda gresim, ali zar Rozberg nije Finac? I sta znaci zvezdica
>> pored imena?
> Jeste Finac ... Svedjani su bolji reli nego F1 vozaci.
Početak osamdesetih mi je skroz nepoznat što se F1 tiče. Negde (usput) sam čuo
da je Rozberg osvojio titulu svetskog prvaka 81. ili 82. godine bez IJEDNE
pobede? Ne mogu u to da poverujem. Seća li se iko?
auto-moto.152stefan,
> Početak osamdesetih mi je skroz nepoznat što se F1 tiče. Negde (usput)
> sam čuo da je Rozberg osvojio titulu svetskog prvaka 81. ili 82. godine
> bez IJEDNE pobede? Ne mogu u to da poverujem. Seća li se iko?
To "negde" je možda ova tema, pogledaj poslednjih 30-40 poruka :)
auto-moto.154cdragan,
Grand Prix of European 96: The Result
Weather: 15 deg C
Race Resume:
In a Nutshell:
- Hill makes bad start and drops from pole to 5th before first corner
- Alesi spins off and Berger makes a bad start - drops to 16th
- Hill loses more time with a 20s pit stop
- Last third of the race Villeneuve leads with Schumacher on his gearbox
- Hill fights from 10th up to 4th but cannot get past Coulthard for the podium
- Perfect race from Villeneuve, much pressure from Schmacher but he lead from
start to finish
The Details:
Lap Event
0 Grid Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] J.Villeneuve
[3] M.Schumacher [4] J.Alesi
[5] R.Barrichello [6] D.Coulthard
1 Very bad start by Berger
1 Bad start by Hill drops to 5th before first corner
1 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] D.Coulthard
[3] R.Barrichello [4] M.Schumacher
[5] D.Hill [6] M.Hakkinen
1 Alesi off into gravel and retires
3 Berger into pits
3 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->1.590s->[2]D.Coulthard
->0.940s->[3] R.Barrichello->0.730s->[4] M.Schumacher
->0.670s->[5] D.Hill->0.610s->[6] M.Hakkinen
3 Villeneuve fastest lap 1m 22.841s
4 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] D.Coulthard
[3] R.Barrichello [4] M.Schumacher
[5] D.Hill [6] M.Hakkinen
4 Berger fastest lap 1m 22.496s
4 Hill passes Schumacher
5 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] D.Coulthard
[3] R.Barrichello [4] D.Hill
[5] M.Schumacher [6] M.Hakkinen
5 Berger fastest lap 1m 22.109s
6 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->3.810s->[2] D.Coulthard
->1.040s->[3] R.Barrichello->0.460s->[4] D.Hill
->0.640s->[5] M.Schumacher->1.870s->[6] M.Hakkinen
6 Panis hits Irvine into chicane - both out of race
7 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->4.170s->[2] D.Coulthard
->0.800s->[3] R.Barrichello->0.540s->[4] D.Hill
->0.700s->[5] M.Schumacher->1.170s->[6] M.Hakkinen
8 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->5.110s->[2] D.Coulthard
->0.740s->[3] R.Barrichello->0.510s->[4] D.Hill
->0.530s->[5] M.Schumacher->1.090s->[6] M.Hakkinen
8 Berger fastest lap 1m 22.004s
10 Berger is in 16th
11 Hill stuck behind Barrichello as Villeneuve pulls away
13 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->7.870s->[2]D.Coulthard
->2.680s->[3] R.Barrichello [4] D.Hill [5] M.Schumacher
[6] M.Hakkinen
16 Each time onto the start straight Hill tries to take Barrichello
with Schumacher close behind
16 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->11.410s->[2] D.Coulthard
[3] R.Barrichello [4] D.Hill
[5] M.Schumacher [6] M.Hakkinen
18 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->12.410s->[2] D.Coulthard
->3.670s->[3] R.Barrichello [4] D.Hill
[5] M.Schumacher [6] M.Hakkinen
20 Pits: Frentzen - 8.2s
20 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->12.420s->[2] D.Coulthard
->3.670s->[3] R.Barrichello->1.160s->[4] D.Hill
->0.440s->[5] M.Schumacher->0.690s->[6] M.Hakkinen
22 Pits: Hill - 20.9s - (disaster time for Hill)
23 Pits: Berger - 9.4s
23 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] D.Coulthard
[3] R.Barrichello [4] M.Schumacher
[5] M.Hakkinen
24 Pits: Schumacher - 7.7s
24 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] D.Coulthard
[3] R.Barrichello [4] M.Hakkinen
24 Pits: Barrichello - 12.5s
24 Pits: Coulthard - 9.8s
25 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.9s
26 Hill is 10th after the over long pit stop
26 Schumacher fastest lap 1m 21.976s
26 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->8.750s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] M.Hakkinen [4] D.Coulthard
[5] R.Barrichello [6] H.Frentzen
28 Hill and Diniz slide onto gravel as Hill tries to pass
both cars get back onto the track
28 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->8.750s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] M.Hakkinen [4] D.Coulthard
[5] R.Barrichello [6] H.Frentzen
28 Diniz into pits
28 Schumacher on a charge for Villeneuve
29 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->4.170s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] M.Hakkinen [4] D.Coulthard
[5] R.Barrichello [6] H.Frentzen
30 Hakkinen 10s penalty - pit speeding
30 Pits: Hakkinen penalty stop - 10.5s
32 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->2.490s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] H.Frentzen
35 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->1.400s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] H.Frentzen [6] M.Hakkinen
36 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->1.060s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] H.Frentzen [6] M.Hakkinen
37 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->0.660s->[2] M.Schumacher
->12.970s->[3] D.Coulthard->3.840s->[4] R.Barrichello
->7.200s->[5] H.Frentzen->2.190s->[6] M.Hakkinen
39 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.695s
39 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] H.Frentzen [6] M.Hakkinen
42 Pits: Frentzen - 7.8s
42 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] M.Hakkinen [6] H.Frentzen
42 Berger in 11th, Hill in 9th
43 Pits: Hill - 8.2s
43 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] M.Hakkinen [6] H.Frentzen
43 Pits: Schumacher - 8.5s out in 3rd
44 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] D.Coulthard
[3] M.Schumacher [4] R.Barrichello
[5] M.Hakkinen [6] H.Frentzen
45 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.3s out in 1st
45 Schumacher passes Coulthard
46 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] M.Brundle
[5] R.Barrichello [6] M.Hakkinen
46 Pits: Brundle - 8.6s
48 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->2.680s->[2] M.Schumacher
->23.920s->[3] D.Coulthard->3.230s->[4] R.Barrichello
->6.440s->[5] M.Hakkinen->0.390s->[6] D.Hill
48 Hakkinen another 10s penalty for pit speeding - suspect bad limiter
50 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->1.440s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] M.Hakkinen [6] D.Hill
51 Pits: Hakkinen penalty stop - 11.2s
51 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.598s
52 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->0.480s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] D.Hill
52 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.463s
55 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->0.680s->[2] M.Schumacher
->27.100s->[3] D.Coulthard->1.520s->[4] R.Barrichello
->2.680s->[5] D.Hill->14.580s->[6] M.Brundle
55 Hill fastest lap 1m 21.363s
58 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] R.Barrichello
[5] D.Hill [6] M.Brundle
60 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->0.670s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard->1.180s->[4] D.Hill
->1.710s->[5] R.Barrichello [6] M.Brundle
60 Frentzen out after a trip into the gravel
62 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard->0.580s->[4] D.Hill
[5] R.Barrichello [6] M.Brundle
64 Schumacher right up the back of Villeneuve
64 Hill right up the back of Coulthard
64 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] D.Hill
[5] R.Barrichello [6] M.Brundle
65 Villeneuve lapping the slower cars with Schumacher on his gearbox
65 Current Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->0.210s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard->0.460s->[4] D.Hill
[5] R.Barrichello [6] M.Brundle
66 Villeneuve and Coulthard both cross the line with hard chargers
on their gearboxes
67 Finishing Positions: [1] J.Villeneuve->0.760s->[2] M.Schumacher
->32.070s->[3] D.Coulthard->0.680s->[4] D.Hill
->0.200s->[5] R.Barrichello->21.850s->[6]
M.Brundle
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 J.Villeneuve Williams 1hr 33m 26.473s
2 M.Schumacher Ferrari Gap 0m 0.762s
3 D.Coulthard McLaren Gap 0m 32.834s
4 D.Hill Williams Gap 0m 33.511s (Pole
Position)(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 21.363s)
5 R.Barrichello Jordan Gap 0m 33.713s
6 M.Brundle Jordan Gap 0m 55.567s
7 J.Herbert Sauber Gap 1m 18.027s
8 M.Hakkinen McLaren Gap 1m 18.438s
9 G.Berger Benetton Gap 1m 21.061s
10 M.Salo Tyrrell Laps behind: 1
11 P.Diniz Ligier Laps behind: 1
12 U.Katayma Tyrrell Laps behind: 2
13 R.Rosset Footwork Laps behind: 2
14 P.Lamy Minardi Laps behind: 2
15 G.Fisichella Minardi Laps behind: 2
Retirements:
H.Frentzen Sauber Lap: 59 Reason:
J.Verstappen Footwork Lap: 38 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari Lap: 6 Reason:
O.Panis Ligier Lap: 6 Reason:
J.Alesi Benetton Lap: 1 Reason:
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Formula 1 Tables:
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
1 D.Hill 33
2 J.Villeneuve 22
3 J.Alesi 10
M.Schumacher 10
5 E.Irvine 6
6 R.Barrichello 5
M.Hakkinen 5
8 D.Coulthard 4
9 M.Salo 3
G.Berger 3
11 M.Brundle 1
J.Verstappen 1
O.Panis 1
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
1 Williams 55
2 Ferrari 16
3 Benetton 13
4 McLaren 9
5 Jordan 6
6 Tyrrell 3
7 Footwork 1
Ligier 1
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auto-moto.155wiper,
Sta kazete na voznju Baricela u Nemackoj.
Sjajan je - jestevideli kako je samo ometao Hila i Sumahera,
u jednoj krivini je malo pogresio a Hil krenuo sa jedne strane u
obilazenje a Sumah. sa druge. Medjutim prvo je zatvorio prvog a
onda i drugog.
U stilu svog velikog zemljaka .
auto-moto.156tomislavr,
> Sta kazete na voznju Baricela u Nemackoj.
Lekciju o voznji u Nirburgringu je ipak odrzao Sumaher. Sa
evidentno slabijim bolidom uspeo je da drzi korak za Vilnevom,
cak sta vise, Vilnevovu ogromnu razliku sredinom trke je sveo na
nekih 0.7 na kraju. Za preticanje je falilo samo "par" ;) konja.
Sto se tice Hila, opet je pokazao kakav je "majstor" kad se
nadje u guzvi.
auto-moto.157tomislavr,
Zna li neko sta se desava u DTM i ITC sampionatima.
auto-moto.158vimm,
> Lekciju o voznji u Nirburgringu je ipak odrzao Sumaher. Sa
> evidentno slabijim bolidom uspeo je da drzi korak za Vilnevom,
Grešiš sinko, ovaj, silno grešiš sinko. Žak je vozio izuzetno pametno
i pritiskao je gas tačno onoliko koliko mu je bilo potrebno da osvoji
prvo mesto.
> Sto se tice Hila, opet je pokazao kakav je "majstor" kad se
> nadje u guzvi.
Na ovoj trci zaista je pokazao da je majstor. Posle greške na startu
dosta lako je obišao Šumahera i upustio u jurnjavu za Baričelom (ako
Brazilac nastavi sa ovakvim prepotentnim ponašanjem mislim da će jako
loše proći u budućnosti), pa je onda imao kiks u boksu (na žalost ne-
znamo čijom krivicom) i zadržao se oko ili preko 20 sec, da bi na kraju
bio 4.-ti, a svi smo mogli da vidimo koliko je malo mesta za obilaženje
bilo. Prema tome, sve čestitke Hilu sa moje strane.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.159tomislavr,
> Grešiš sinko, ovaj, silno grešiš sinko. Žak je vozio izuzetno
> pametno i pritiskao je gas tačno onoliko koliko mu je bilo
> potrebno da osvoji prvo mesto.
Ne mogu da zamislim Vilneva koji dobija informaciju iz boksa da
mu Sumaher prilazi sekund po krugu, kako "pritiska gas tacno
onoliko koliko je potrebno za prvo mesto". Sumaher je dosta
krugova u MNOGO losijem bolidu bio u repu Zaku, i nesto ne
mislim da je isti u tim trenucima vozio pametno i promisljeno,
vec najbolje sto moze. Ne zelim da kazem da je Zak lose vozio,
ali zna se ko je tata ;).
> Brazilac nastavi sa ovakvim prepotentnim ponašanjem mislim da će
> jako loše proći u budućnosti),
Zasto je prepotentno braniti poziciju od vozaca koji je od vas
gori po plasmanu. Baricelo pri tom nije napravio nijedan opasan
manevar, tako da je tu rec samo o odbrani pozicije.
> Na ovoj trci zaista je pokazao da je majstor. Posle greške na
> startu
Kakav je Hil majstor videlo se prosle godine dok je Viliams bio
bolji ali recimo uporediv sa Benetonom, i kada se Sumaher igrao
sa njim po stazi. A onda je Hil preko noci "sazreo kao covek i
kao vozac" i ove godine pruza odlicne partije ;). Nije tesko
pobediti kada svi na trci voze Juga a vi BMW ;)
auto-moto.160wiper,
Gresite oboje - Ko je tata kazace vreme ali jedno je sigurno
sumaher nije tata. Videcemo kad Baricelo sedne iz Juga u BMW i
onda se pojuri sa Hilom i Sum. Sta ce onda biti.
A sto se tice ovo dvojce Hila i Sum. Gde su bese bili dok je
SENNA vozio . I sa Jugom je bio ispred Svabe koji je da podsetim
imao Forda novije generacije ( govorim o poslednjoj sezoni u
Mc'larenu).
Prema tome Zak ce tek reci svoje .
Svaba ima veca mudao od Hila .
Ali ocu da skrenem paznju na dvojcu sa starta 2,3
Ako pogledate usporeni start videcete da je naj bolje startovao
Kulhard koji se poravnao tocak uz tocak sa Zakom ali zbog desne
krivine ostao na drugom mestu.
A Brazilac je pokazao svoju krv - pored mene nema prolaza -
Setite se koliko je ljudi pokusalo da obicu Sennu i pritom
zavrsili pored staze (Mensel u Barseloni , Sumaher vise puta,
Prost dva puta ).
auto-moto.161vimm,
> Ne mogu da zamislim Vilneva koji dobija...
Tvoj problem.
> u MNOGO losijem bolidu bio u repu Zaku, i nesto ne
> mislim da je isti u tim trenucima vozio pametno i promisljeno,
Tačno. Vozio je iza njega i kurvinski čekao da Žak pogreši, ali ko
čeka ... gubi vreme. Valjda si primetio da NIJEDNOM nije pokušao i
da ga pretekne. Dečko je vozio izuzetno pametno, ništa nije riziko-
vao i iskoristio šansu koja mu se ukazala.
> Ne zelim da kazem da je Zak lose vozio, ali zna se ko je tata ;).
Da nije možda Šumaher?
> Zasto je prepotentno braniti poziciju od vozaca koji je od vas
> gori po plasmanu. Baricelo pri tom nije napravio nijedan opasan
> manevar, tako da je tu rec samo o odbrani pozicije.
Zar je Hil gori od Baričela? Uostalom, zar nisi primetio koliku je
razliku napravio Žak dok je Baričelo zadržavao Hila? Mislim da su-
više usko i nezrelo razmišljaš tako da ostali deo poruke neću ni da
komentarišem.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.162tomislavr,
> sumaher nije tata. Videcemo kad Baricelo sedne iz Juga u BMW i
> onda se pojuri sa Hilom i Sum. Sta ce onda biti.
Nisam strucnjak, ali prema onome sto sam slusao na Eurosportu
za vreme trke, Jordanov bolid na vecini delova staze pokazivao
bolje perfomanse od Ferarijevog (traktora). Cak je super sto je
Sumi ove godine u Ferariju jer se dobri vozaci poznaju u losim
timovima, bas kao Senna '93.
> SENNA vozio . I sa Jugom je bio ispred Svabe koji je da podsetim
> imao Forda novije generacije ( govorim o poslednjoj sezoni u
Pravi odnos kvaltiteta izmedju Sene i Sumija bi se video
eventualno tek sezone '95, jer je Sumi tad jos uvek bio klinac.
Naravno, ne pada mi na pamet da kazem da je Sumi bolji, ali je
sad jedini na stazi koji moze da pruzi doobru voznju (Spa i
Nirburgring '95 recimo). Sumi tek ima da kaze svoje...
> Ako pogledate usporeni start videcete da je naj bolje startovao
> Kulhard koji se poravnao tocak uz tocak sa Zakom ali zbog desne
> krivine ostao na drugom mestu.
Kao vatreni navijac Mercedesa mogu samo da se slozim sa tobom ;).
auto-moto.163tomislavr,
Rezultati danasnjeg nezvanicnog treninga:
1. Schumacher (*)
2. Barichello (NT)
3. Villeneuve
4. Hakkinen
5. Panis (NT)
6. Hill (**)
NT - sa novim gumama
* - oko sekund brzi od drugoplasiranog!
** - bio bi bolji ali je uleteo u guzvu
auto-moto.164tomislavr,
>> Ne mogu da zamislim Vilneva koji dobija...
>
> Tvoj problem.
Vrlo ruzan primer izvlacenja recenice iz konteksta ;).
> Zar je Hil gori od Baričela? Uostalom, zar nisi primetio koliku je
> razliku napravio Žak dok je Baričelo zadržavao Hila? Mislim da su-
Hil je u tom trenutku bio gori po POZICIJI, a na Baricelu je da
svoju brani, sto je on i cinio i sto je normalno. Da nije trebao
da ga pusti, jer Hil vodi u sampionatu? ;)
auto-moto.165cdragan,
> Lekciju o voznji u Nirburgringu je ipak odrzao Sumaher. Sa
> evidentno slabijim bolidom uspeo je da drzi korak za Vilnevom,
> cak sta vise, Vilnevovu ogromnu razliku sredinom trke je sveo na
> nekih 0.7 na kraju. Za preticanje je falilo samo "par" ;) konja.
Istine radi treba reći da jepo završetku trke Vilnev
izjavio da je imao problem na menjaču sa petom brzinom tokom cele
druge polovine trke tako da je to razlog zašto je Šumaher tako
brzo smanjivao razliku. Dakle, Šumaheru može samo da bude krivo
što to nije bolje iskoristio a Vilnevu sve čestitke na odličnoj
vožnji i pokazanoj prisebnosti ;)
auto-moto.166cdragan,
> loše proći u budućnosti), pa je onda ina žalost
> ne- znamo čijom krivicom) i zadržao se oko ili preko 20 sec, da bi
Koliko mi se čini, imali su problema sa zavrtnjem na
jednom od točkova.
auto-moto.167wiper,
Ne bih rekao da je tad Sumaher bio mnogo los a danas "toliko
superioran". Da te podsetim on je sledece godine uzeo titulu
svetskog prvaka prema tome ne vozi nista bolje. E tu sad ti
vidi ko je bio tata.
A o odnosu Baricelo Sumaher - sve se videlo u Brazilu.
Ipak Ferari je Ferari a Jordan je obican Jordan.
Ma necu vise da diskutujem o Sumaheru. On je za mene najveci
smrad i naj pokvareniji vozac . Truo je na sve strane .
O njemu sve NAJ GORE !!!!!
auto-moto.168vimm,
>>> Ne mogu da zamislim Vilneva koji dobija...
>> Tvoj problem.
> Vrlo ruzan primer izvlacenja recenice iz konteksta ;).
Nisam izvukao rečenicu iz konteksta, samo nisam hteo da citiram ostatak
jer sam ovde mislio na tebe, a ne na Žaka.
> Hil je u tom trenutku bio gori po POZICIJI, a na Baricelu je da
> svoju brani, sto je on i cinio i sto je normalno.
Da li to znači da je trebalo da svi vozači kada se Hil posle prvog
pitstopa vratio u trku na, čini mi se 14.-to mesto, da ga zadržavaju
braneći svoje pozicije? Ne budi smešan, nego razmišljaj!
Pozdrav Vladimir
P.S. Ovim si samo potvrdio moje mišljenje o tebi.
auto-moto.169vimm,
> Koliko mi se čini, imali su problema sa zavrtnjem na
> jednom od točkova.
Pretpostavljao sam da je bila neka glupost. Samo da se ne ponovi
slučaj kada je Mensel izgubio titulu, između ostalog i zbog onog
spektakularnog otpadanja točka prilikom izlaska iz boksa nagon za-
mena guma.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.170lexus,
=> Da li to znači da je trebalo da svi vozači kada se Hil posle prvog
=> pitstopa vratio u trku na, čini mi se 14.-to mesto, da ga
=> zadržavaju braneći svoje pozicije? Ne budi smešan, nego razmišljaj!
Baričelo ja sa 3. mestom osvajao bodove, a to nije isto kao kad vozač
na 14. mestu zadržava Hill-a.
Uostalom, sudije su mogle da pokažu Baričelu da se skloni i pusti
Hilla da prođe, ali nisu, tako da je Hill zasluženo osvojio to
što je osvojio...
auto-moto.171lexus,
=> Ne bih rekao da je tad Sumaher bio mnogo los a danas "toliko
=> superioran". Da te podsetim on je sledece godine uzeo titulu
=> svetskog prvaka prema tome ne vozi nista bolje. E tu sad ti
=> vidi ko je bio tata.
Šumaher je tada imao 23 godine! Bio je klinac. Sledeć godine, kada
je osvojio prvu titulu, titulu konstruktora osvojio je Williams, a
ne Benneton, tako da se ne može reći da je Schumi bio prvi zbog
bolida, već zbog napretka koji je pokazao u odnosu na prethodnu
sezonu. Prošle godine je pokazao da je najbolji vozač, a Hill
ove godine ima ubedljivo najbolji bolid. Uglavnom, Šumaher od
ovog i ovakvog Ferrarija izvlači maksimum i verovatno će biti
treći na kraju sezone...
Ako se Ferrari popravi sledeće sezone i Schumacher će biti bolji!
Inače, sledeće sezone očekujem da se bore Villeneuve, Barichelo,
Schumacher i Coulthard :)
auto-moto.173cdragan,
> Rezultati danasnjeg nezvanicnog treninga:
Formula 1: Saint Marino Grand Prix---------------------------------------
Session Resume:
Weather: Sunny, windy, 16 deg C
Time Event
00 First car out - Barrichello
04 1m 37.341s [1] Veststappen
04 1m 38.961s [2] Barrichello
05 1m 35.327s [1] Salo
05 1m 35.173s [1] Barrichello
07 1m 35.915s [2] Frentzen
10 1m 32.747s [1] Frentzen
11 1m 32.280s [1] Schumacher
12 1m 29.692s [1] Schumacher
13 1m 32.130s [2] Hill
14 1m 28.831s [1] Schumacher
16 1m 32.008s [5] Villeneuve
17 1m 31.351s [3] Villeneuve
18 1m 31.634s [4] Alesi
19 1m 32.608s [7] Berger
20 1m 32.730s [8] Coulthard
23 1m 31.839s [6] Berger
25 Current: [1] Schumacher, [2] Hill, [3] Villeneuve,
[4] Alesi, [5] Irvine, [6] Berger
29 1m 29.537s Schumacher
30 1m 28.985s Schumacher
31 1m 30.430s [2] Irvine
33 Katayama engine blows - drives on to grass - retires
34 ------ Session Stopped due to Irvine having spun and
stalled near a corner
42 ------ Session Restarts
45 1m 31.442s Hill
46 1m 30.420s [2] Coulthard
47 1m 31.158s Hill
50 1m 30.741s [4] Hill
52 1m 31.972s Alesi
57 1m 30.549s [5] Hakkinen
57 Current: [1] Schumacher, [2] Coulthard, [3] Irvine,
[4] Barrichello, [5] Hakkinen, [6] Hill
59 1m 30.374s [2] Hakkinen
62 Schumacher off into gravel - retires
66 1m 29.921s [2] Villeneuve
66 1m 29.446s [2] Barrichello
67 1m 30.415s [6] Hill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Schumacher 1m 28.831s 0 0m 0.000s
2 R.Barrichello 1m 29.446s 0 0m 0.000s
3 J.Villeneuve 1m 29.921s 0 0m 0.000s
4 M.Hakkinen 1m 29.984s 0 0m 0.000s
5 O.Panis 1m 30.150s 0 0m 0.000s
6 D.Hill 1m 30.415s 0 0m 0.000s
7 D.Coulthard 1m 30.420s 0 0m 0.000s
8 E.Irvine 1m 30.430s 0 0m 0.000s
9 H.Frentzen 1m 30.462s 0 0m 0.000s
10 J.Herbert 1m 30.570s 0 0m 0.000s
11 M.Brundle 1m 30.932s 0 0m 0.000s
12 J.Verstappen 1m 31.182s 0 0m 0.000s
13 J.Alesi 1m 31.513s 0 0m 0.000s
14 G.Berger 1m 31.654s 0 0m 0.000s
15 M.Salo 1m 31.970s 0 0m 0.000s
16 R.Rosset 1m 32.563s 0 0m 0.000s
17 G.Fisichella 1m 33.006s 0 0m 0.000s
18 U.Katayma 1m 33.377s 0 0m 0.000s
19 P.Lamy 1m 33.439s 0 0m 0.000s
---- 107% ----
20 A.Montermini 1m 36.052s 0 0m 0.000s
21 L.Badoer 1m 37.963s 0 0m 0.000s
22 P.Diniz 1m 51.765s 0 0m 0.000s
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auto-moto.174cdragan,
Vesti o Miki Hakkinenu ....
He has now recovered consciousness and is able to move all his limbs.
He is expected to stay in hospital in Adelaide for 2 to 3 weeks. It
is believed his accident was caused by something on the track, which
sliced into one of his tyres causing an immediate deflation. (This
occured in the first qualifying session and just before the fast
right-hander onto the Brabham Straight. The car spun over the concrete
outer corner ridge and flew 20 yards in the air before it hit the
concrete wall and tyre barrier at 130mph. The session was stopped and
doctors worked on Hakkinen for 15 minutes before he was taken to the
hospital.)
auto-moto.175stevicm,
> Tacno. Vozio je iza njega i kurvinski cekao da Zak pogresi, ali ko
> ceka ... gubi vreme. Valjda si primetio da NIJEDNOM nije pokusao i
Votson i Edvards na Eurosportu su pricali kako je Svabina taktika
da kad naidju na zaostale vozace ceka Vilneva da pogresi, ali da je
ovaj ispekao zanat u INDY CAR i da je to za njega poznata situacija.
Vilnev je vozio odlicno, Hil nije imao srece, iako je dobro vozio,
zanima me sto se onoliko zadrzao u boksu?
Na press konferenciji Kulthard je izjavio kako je bilo relativno lako
sprecavati Hila da ga pretekne, jer je bio njegov klupski kolega i znao
je da nece nista neozbiljno da uradi!
auto-moto.176giovanni,
Ę? Vesti o Miki Hakkinenu ....
Malo si zakasnio. ;) Samo 6 meseci.
auto-moto.177giovanni,
Danas na kvalifikacijama Šumaher je ostvario prvu ovogodišnju POLE
poziciju. Kvalifikacioni trening je, inače, bio veoma zanimljiv.
Tokom većeg dela treninga Šumaher je imao najbolje vreme a onda je
Hil preuzeo prvo mesto, dok je Vilnev bio treći. Ubrzo je i Žak
ostvario bolje vreme od Šumahera pa je poredak bio:
1. Hil
2. Vilnev
3. Šumaher
Razlika između Hila i Šumahera je tada bila 0.181s. Tako je bilo sve dok
3.30 min. pre kraja kvalifikacija Šumaher nije izašao ponovo na stazu
da u poslednjem pokušaju eventualno izbori bolju stratnu poziciju.
Jureći k'o lud, Šumaher je uspeo tridesetak sekundi pre kraja treninga da
ostvari najbolje vreme (1.26.890, jedini ispod minut i 27 sek.) i tako
potisne Vilijamsove vozače na drugo, odnosno treće mesto. Interesantno je
da je kod treće ili četvtre krivine posle cilja (nakon preuzimanja POLE
pozicije) na Šumaherovom bolidu otkazalo ogibljenje zadnjeg levog točka
i Šumaher je izgubio kontrolu nad bolidom ali se sve dobro završilo jer
Ferrari #1 nije išao velikom brzinom u tom trenutku pa je Nemac bio prinuđen
da bolid ostavi kraj staze.
auto-moto.178wiper,
Sta kazete na mog coveka "D.Kulharda"
govorio sam vam da je strasan vozac i da ima m.. do zemlje.
Danas je ostvario 4 poziciju na startu odmah iza Svabe i
dva Williamsa.
Mrzi me da vracam izjave onih koji su ga osporavali.
Izjave su bile nema pojma samo je hteo da se proda i tako slicno.
A inace koliko mi se cini ovo mu je tek treca sezona u F1.
Kao sto neko rece " Sumaher je onda bio mlad a sad je stariji i
dosta je napredovao". E pa ljubitelji sumahera uzivate dok Dejvid
ne ostari i stekne dovoljno iskustva.
Inace u buducnosti vidim okrsaje : Sumaher, Vilnev, Baricelo i
Kulhard.
To je za sad buducnost formule.
Od Hila nece biti nista - da se neljute Hilovci on je ipak samo
test vozac. I ako sam najveci NE LJUBITELJ SVABE cak sta vise
kad vidim da se sjebe ja se radujem, mislim da je izmislio
voznju za Hila.
auto-moto.179dusko,
> pozicije) na Šumaherovom bolidu otkazalo ogibljenje zadnjeg levog
> točka
> i Šumaher je izgubio kontrolu nad bolidom ali se sve dobro završilo
> Ferrari #1 nije išao velikom brzinom u tom trenutku pa je Nemac bio
> prinuđen da bolid ostavi kraj staze.
Šumaheru zadnje ogibljenje nije otkazalo već je _puklo_.
Komentatori na Eurosportu su mislili da je Šumi prebrzo ušao u
krivinu, i da je do proklizavanja došlo zbog Ferrarijevog
understeer-a, al' kad su pustili kadar iz drugog ugla lepo se vidi
slomljeno ogibljenje. Imao je sreće da mu se to desilo na relativno
bezbednom delu staze na izlasku iz jedne šikane. Inače, na svim
treninzima u Imoli švaba je "plesao" sa Ferrarijem. Na kraju
jučerašnje seanse imao je izletanje koje je moglo da bude opasno, al'
ga je spaslo 50-tak metara šljunka, koji ga je zaustavio pre
sigurnosnog zida.
Najinteresantnije je što su Ferrarijevi bolidi na svim treninzima
imali motore koje neće imati sutra u trci. Motori su nešto jači i
elastičniji od ovog dosadašnjeg, ali su i prilično nepouzdani. Ipak
ludim Italijanima može da padne na pamet da na domaćem terenu probaju
i sa novom verzijom motora.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.180cdragan,
> Ę? Vesti o Miki Hakkinenu ....
>
> Malo si zakasnio. ;) Samo 6 meseci.
Omaklo se iz pogrešne baze .. ;)
Evo da se izvadim, ako može ... :
Formula 1: Saint Marino Grand Prix
Qualifying
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Session Resume:
Weather: Bright, Sunny
Time Event
0: 4 Verstappen first on track
0: 7 1m 30.788s - J.Verstappen
0: 7 Current Positions: [1] Versta,
0: 8 1m 29.477s - D.Coulthard
0: 8 Current Positions: [1] Coulth, [2] Versta,
0: 9 1m 28.717s - D.Coulthard
0:10 Schumacher on track
0:12 1m 27.512s - M.Schumacher
0:12 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Coulth, [3] Versta,
0:14 1m 29.749s - J.Villeneuve
0:14 1m 27.416s - M.Schumacher
0:15 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Coulth, [3] Villen, [4] Versta,
0:15 1m 28.037s - J.Villeneuve
0:15 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Coulth, [4] Versta,
0:17 1m 27.469s - M.Schumacher
0:18 1m 29.693s - M.Hakkinen
0:18 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Coulth, [4] Hakkin, [5]
Versta,
0:18 Panis spins over grass and back on
0:19 1m 29.064s - E.Irvine
0:19 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Coulth, [4] Irvine, [5]
Hakkin, [6] Versta
0:20 1m 28.628s - D.Hill
0:20 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Hill, [4] Coulth, [5]
Irvine, [6] Hakkin
0:21 1m 27.964s - D.Hill
0:21 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Hill, [3] Villen, [4] Coulth, [5]
Irvine, [6] Hakkin
0:24 1m 27.469s - J.Villeneuve
0:24 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Hill, [4] Coulth, [5]
Irvine, [6] Hakkin
0:24 1m 28.996s - R.Barrichello
0:24 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Hill, [4] Coulth, [5]
Barric, [6] Irvine
0:25 1m 28.591s - G.Berger
0:25 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Hill, [4] Berger, [5]
Coulth, [6] Barric
0:26 1m 29.505s - J.Alesi
0:28 1m 28.247s - D.Coulthard
0:28 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Hill, [4] Coulth, [5]
Berger, [6] Barric
0:29 1m 28.611s - J.Alesi
0:29 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Villen, [3] Hill, [4] Coulth, [5]
Berger, [6] Alesi
0:33 Schumacher cuts accross grass
0:33 1m 27.105s - D.Hill
0:33 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Schuma, [3] Villen, [4] Coulth, [5]
Berger, [6] Alesi
0:34 1m 27.286s - M.Schumacher
0:36 Later Positions:
[7] Barr, [8] Fren, [9] Irvi, [10] Salo
[11] Hakk, [12] Brun, [13] Kata, [14] Din, [15] Vers
[16] Herb, [17] Pani
0:37 1m 28.205s - E.Irvine
0:37 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Schuma, [3] Villen, [4] Irvine, [5]
Coulth, [6] Berger
0:44 1m 27.220s - J.Villeneuve
0:44 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Schuma, [4] Irvine, [5]
Coulth, [6] Berger
0:48 1m 28.423s - M.Salo
0:48 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Schuma, [4] Irvine, [5]
Coulth, [6] Salo
0:50 1m 28.158s - J.Alesi
0:50 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Schuma, [4] Alesi, [5]
Irvine, [6] Coulth
0:52 1m 28.009s - J.Alesi
0:53 1m 27.688s - D.Coulthard
0:53 Current Positions: [1] Hill, [2] Villen, [3] Schuma, [4] Coulth, [5]
Alesi, [6] Irvine
0:56 Vill,Hill,Schu all on track
0:58 1m 27.641s - D.Hill
0:59 1m 27.375s - J.Villeneuve
0:59 1m 26.890s - M.Schumacher
0:59 Current Positions: [1] Schuma, [2] Hill, [3] Villen, [4] Coulth, [5]
Alesi, [6] Irvine
0:59 Schumacher off onto grass when rear suspension breaks - retires
1: 0 1m 27.431s - D.Hill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free 1st Free
Pos Driver Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Schumacher 1m 26.890s 2 1m 27.095s 1 1m 28.831s 1 1m 44.370s
2 D.Hill 1m 27.105s 1 1m 27.092s 6 1m 30.415s 2 1m 45.591s
3 J.Villeneuve 1m 27.220s 3 1m 27.277s 3 1m 29.921s 5 1m 46.586s
4 D.Coulthard 1m 27.688s 4 1m 27.577s 7 1m 30.420s 10 1m 47.808s
5 J.Alesi 1m 28.009s 9 1m 28.280s 13 1m 31.513s 6 1m 46.984s
6 E.Irvine 1m 28.205s 6 1m 28.060s 8 1m 30.430s 7 1m 47.246s
7 G.Berger 1m 28.336s 7 1m 28.144s 14 1m 31.654s 3 1m 45.662s
8 M.Salo 1m 28.423s 10 1m 28.363s 15 1m 31.970s 11 1m 48.363s
9 R.Barrichello 1m 28.632s 8 1m 28.164s 2 1m 29.446s 9 1m 47.341s
10 H.Frentzen 1m 28.785s 13 1m 28.748s 9 1m 30.462s 15 1m 49.526s
11 M.Hakkinen 1m 29.079s 5 1m 27.814s 4 1m 29.984s 16 1m 50.156s
12 M.Brundle 1m 29.099s 11 1m 28.581s 11 1m 30.932s 0 0m 0.000s
13 O.Panis 1m 29.472s 12 1m 28.693s 5 1m 30.150s 4 1m 45.767s
14 J.Verstappen 1m 29.539s 17 1m 30.657s 12 1m 31.182s 0 0m 0.000s
15 J.Herbert 1m 29.541s 14 1m 28.794s 10 1m 30.570s 8 1m 47.260s
16 U.Katayma 1m 29.892s 15 1m 29.506s 18 1m 33.377s 13 1m 48.880s
17 P.Diniz 1m 29.989s 20 1m 30.969s 22 1m 51.765s 18 1m 51.765s
18 P.Lamy 1m 30.471s 18 1m 30.800s 19 1m 33.439s 12 1m 48.487s
19 G.Fisichella 1m 30.814s 16 1m 30.510s 17 1m 33.006s 14 1m 49.454s
20 R.Rosset 1m 31.316s 19 1m 30.833s 16 1m 32.563s 17 1m 50.829s
21 L.Badoer 1m 32.037s 21 1m 31.208s 21 1m 37.963s 20 2m 13.016s
---- 107% ----
22 A.Montermini 1m 33.685s 22 1m 34.584s 20 1m 36.052s 19 1m 56.090s
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The Grid
Qualify
Pos Driver Pos Lap Time
1st row
1 M.Schumacher 1 1m 26.890s
2 D.Hill 2 1m 27.105s
2nd row
3 J.Villeneuve 3 1m 27.220s
4 D.Coulthard 4 1m 27.688s
3th row
5 J.Alesi 5 1m 28.009s
6 E.Irvine 6 1m 28.205s
4th row
7 G.Berger 7 1m 28.336s
8 M.Salo 8 1m 28.423s
5th row
9 R.Barrichello 9 1m 28.632s
10 H.Frentzen 10 1m 28.785s
6th row
11 M.Hakkinen 11 1m 29.079s
12 M.Brundle 12 1m 29.099s
7th row
13 O.Panis 13 1m 29.472s
14 J.Verstappen 14 1m 29.539s
8th row
15 J.Herbert 15 1m 29.541s
16 U.Katayma 16 1m 29.892s
9th row
17 P.Diniz 17 1m 29.989s
18 P.Lamy 18 1m 30.471s
10th row
19 G.Fisichella 19 1m 30.814s
20 R.Rosset 20 1m 31.316s
11th row
21 L.Badoer 21 1m 32.037s
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auto-moto.181lexus,
=> Inace u buducnosti vidim okrsaje : Sumaher, Vilnev, Baricelo i
=> Kulhard.
Konačno da se i nas dvojica složimo u nečemu :)
Samo pogledaj poruku 11.171 :)
=> Od Hila nece biti nista - da se neljute Hilovci on je ipak samo
Vidi, vidi, ponovo se slažemo ;)
auto-moto.182dusko,
1. Hil
2. Šumaher
3. Berger
4. Irvajn
5. Baričelo
6. Alezi
Hil je (konačno) odvezao trku, a da nije napravio glupost. Počeo je
trku sa dosta goriva u bolidu, sporo startovao, bio treći iza 1.
Kultarda i 2. Šumija. Onda su došli pitstopovi. Sve u svemu ništa
preterano zanimljivo. Vilnev je na startu imao kontakt sa Alezijem,
pa je odmah morao u boks po novo prednje krilo i novu zadnju desnu
gumu. Do pred kraj trke je sa zadnjeg stigao na 6. mesto, ali je
morao da odustane. I oba McLarena su odustala zbog kvarova.
Za dve nedelje u Monte Karlu Ferrari najverovatnije nastupa sa
motorom koji je u Imoli korišćen samo za trening.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.183vimm,
> Hil je (konačno) odvezao trku, a da nije napravio glupost.
Molim? Objasni ovo.
Vladimir
auto-moto.184cdragan,
Formula 1: Saint Marino Grand Prix
(Warm Up & Race Resume)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Warm Up:
Session Resume:
Time Event
00 18 cars out for 1 lap and back into pits
Schumacher running the Friday spec engine again.
(Saturday qualifying was made using their new spec engine
which is not for the moment reliable enough for a full race)
05 1m 32.480s - Salo (1)
08 1m 30.999s - Schumacher (1)
12 1m 31.002s - Irvine (2)
13 1m 30.382s - Irvine (1)
13 Pos: Irvine, Herbert, Alesi, Schumacher
14 1m 31.221s - Villeneuve (6)
15 1m 30.335s - Villeneuve (3)
15 1m 29.340s - Schumacher (1)
15 Pos: Schumacher, Alesi, Villeneuve, Irvine, Frentzen, Herbert,
Salo, Barrichello, Coulthard
17 1m 28.700s - Villeneuve (1)
17 1m 28.912s - Hill (2)
18 1m 29.364s - Coulthard (4)
19 Pos: Villeneuve, Hill, Schumacher
22 1m 29.021 - Coulthard (3)
25 1m 28.028s - Hill (1)
26 Alesi off into gravel and hits tyre wall - destroys the back of the
car - Alesi ok.
27 -- SESSION STOPPED --
27 Pos: Hill, Villeneuve, Coulthard, Schumacher, Berger, Panis
28 -- SESSION RESTARTS --
28 Hill, Villeneuve stay in the pits
31 1m 29.040s - Hakkinen (5)
Track Times:
Qualify 3rd Free
2nd
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos
Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 28.028s 2 1m 27.105s 1 1m 27.092s 6
2 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 28.700s 3 1m 27.220s 3 1m 27.277s 3
3 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 29.021s 4 1m 27.688s 4 1m 27.577s 7
4 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 29.033s 1 1m 26.890s 2 1m 27.095s 1
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 29.040s 11 1m 29.079s 5 1m 27.814s 4
6 G.Berger Benetton 1m 29.199s 7 1m 28.336s 7 1m 28.144s 14
7 O.Panis Ligier 1m 29.349s 13 1m 29.472s 12 1m 28.693s 5
8 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 29.523s 15 1m 29.541s 14 1m 28.794s 10
9 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 29.698s 8 1m 28.423s 10 1m 28.363s 15
10 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 29.900s 5 1m 28.009s 9 1m 28.280s 13
11 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 29.936s 9 1m 28.632s 8 1m 28.164s 2
12 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 29.981s 14 1m 29.539s 17 1m 30.657s 12
13 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 30.022s 10 1m 28.785s 13 1m 28.748s 9
14 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 30.034s 12 1m 29.099s 11 1m 28.581s 11
15 U.Katayma Tyrrell 1m 30.339s 16 1m 29.892s 15 1m 29.506s 18
16 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 30.365s 6 1m 28.205s 6 1m 28.060s 8
17 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 30.680s 17 1m 29.989s 20 1m 30.969s 22
18 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 31.450s 19 1m 30.814s 16 1m 30.510s 17
19 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 31.695s 20 1m 31.316s 19 1m 30.833s 16
20 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 32.269s 18 1m 30.471s 18 1m 30.800s 19
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 33.423s 21 1m 32.037s 21 1m 31.208s 21
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San Marino Grand Prix 96: The Result
Race Resume:
Weather: Sunny
In a Nutshell:
- Hill wins by pit strategy and being lucky with traffic
- Schumacher get stuck several times in traffic and crosses the line in Second
place with a front wheel locked for the last half lap
- Steady race into 3rd for Berger
- Alesi has many pit visits including penalties but still comes 6th
- Villeneuve makes contact during start - into pits after 1 lap
- is not really able to catch up
- Coulthard makes a great start but does not finish due to engine failure
The Details:
Lap Event
0 Grid Positions: [1] M.Schumacher [2] D.Hill
[3] J.Villeneuve [4] D.Coulthard
[5] J.Alesi [6] E.Irvine
1 Villenuve was hit during the start and goes into pits for new tyre
1 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard, [2] D.Hill
[3] M.Schumacher [4] M.Salo
[5] G.Berger [6] R.Barrichello
2 Fastest lap Berger 1m 31.369s
3 Fastest lap - Villeneuve 1m 30.300s
3 Schumacher passes Hill
3 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Hill [4] G.Berger
[5] M.Salo [6] R.Barrichello
7 Hill may be trailling due to a heavy fuel load??
7 Schumacher on the tail of Coulthard
7 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Hill [4] G.Berger
[5] M.Salo [6] R.Barrichello
8 Fastest lap - Schumacher 1m 30.110s
9 Fastest lap - Coulthard 1m 30.046s
9 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard->0.530s->[2] M.Schumacher
->3.220s->[3] D.Hill->1.430s->[4] G.Berger
->5.000s->[5] M.Salo->1.740s->[6] R.Barrichello
10 Fastest lap - Schumacher 1m 29.897s
10 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard->0.560s->[2] M.Schumacher
->3.300s->[3] D.Hill->2.200s->[4] G.Berger
[5] M.Salo [6] R.Barrichello
13 Fastest lap - Hill 1m 29.815s
14 Fastest lap - Villeneuve 1m 29.665s
17 Pits: Hakkinen - 8.8s
17 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard->0.670s->[2] M.Schumacher
->2.990s->[3] D.Hill->4.060s->[4] G.Berger
->7.910s->[5] M.Salo->1.420s->[6] R.Barrichello
19 Current Positions: [1] D.Coulthard [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Hill [4] G.Berger
[5] M.Salo [6] R.Barrichello
19 Pits: Alesi - 19.5s
20 Pits: Coulthard - 8.2s
20 Fastest lap Schumacher 1m 29.517s
21 Pits: Schumacher - 9.3s
21 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] G.Berger
[3] M.Salo [4] R.Barrichello
[5] M.Schumacher [6] D.Coulthard
21 10s Penalty: Alesi pit speeding
21 Fastest lap - Villeneuve 1m 29.310s
21 Pits: Barrichello
23 Fastest lap - Villeneuve 1m 29.226s
24 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] G.Berger
[3] M.Schumacher [4] D.Coulthard
[5] E.Irvine [6] M.Salo
23 Salo - engine blows
25 Pits: Berger - 7.4s
25 Fastest lap - Hill 1m 29.199s
25 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] E.Irvine
[5] G.Berger
26 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.9s
26 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] E.Irvine
[5] G.Berger [6] R.Barrichello
26 Pits: Irvine
28 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->22.000s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] G.Berger
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
29 Hakkinen onto gravel but keeps going
29 Villeneuve in 15th
29 Pits: Hill - 7.5s
31 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->0.820s->[2] M.Schumacher
->9.180s->[3] D.Coulthard->5.030s->[4] G.Berger
->10.030s->[5] R.Barrichello->5.320s->[6] E.Irvine
32 Frentzen into pits - retires
33 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->1.400s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] G.Berger
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
34 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->1.310s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] G.Berger
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
36 Villeneuve in 14th, Alesi in 13th
36 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] M.Schumacher
[3] D.Coulthard [4] G.Berger
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
36 Fastest lap Schumacher 1m 28.966s
36 Brundle off into gravel and retires
39 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->1.110s->[2] M.Schumacher
->16.570s->[3] D.Coulthard [4] G.Berger
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
40 Pits: Schumacher - 11.7s
40 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] D.Coulthard
[3] M.Schumacher [4] G.Berger
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
41 Pits: Alesi - 9s
41 Pits: Coulthard
41 Pits: Irvine - 11.7s
41 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] M.Schumacher
[3] G.Berger [4] R.Barrichello
[5] D.Coulthard [6] E.Irvine
43 Mechanic injured in pits
43 Pits: Hakkinen
43 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->25.800s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] G.Berger [4] D.Coulthard
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
44 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.9s
44 Pits: Berger - 15.3s
44 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->25.800s->[2] M.Schumacher
[3] G.Berger [4] D.Coulthard
[5] R.Barrichello [6] E.Irvine
44 Schumacher stuck behind the Hakkinen/Diniz fight
44 Coulthard retires mech problem
46 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->34.070s->[2] M.Schumacher
48 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->37.930s->[2] M.Schumacher
->25.000s->[3] G.Berger [4] E.Irvine
[5] R.Barrichello [6] J.Villeneuve
49 Fastest lap - Hill 1m 28.931s
48 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->37.930s->[2] M.Schumacher
->25.000s->[3] G.Berger [4] E.Irvine
[5] R.Barrichello [6] J.Villeneuve
50 Pits: Hill - 8.3s
51 10s Penalty - both Hakkinen and Diniz for blocking Schumacher
56 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill->22.800s->[2] M.Schumacher
->25.320s->[3] G.Berger->12.810s->[4] E.Irvine
->6.830s->[5] R.Barrichello [6] J.Villeneuve
57 Villeneuve into pits and retires
59 Current Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] M.Schumacher
[3] G.Berger [4] E.Irvine
[5] R.Barrichello [6] J.Alesi
61 Hakkinen retires with engine problem
63 Final Positions: [1] D.Hill [2] M.Schumacher
[3] G.Berger [4] E.Irvine
[5] R.Barrichello [6] J.Alesi
P.S. Ovde ne spomenuše da se u zadnjem krugu Šumaheru potpuno zablokirao
prednji desni točak, te da je tako škripeći i dimeći prošao kroz cilj ;)
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1hr 35m 26.156s (63 Laps)
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 28.931s)
2 M.Schumacher Ferrari Gap 0m 16.460s
(Pole Position)
3 G.Berger Benetton Gap 0m 46.891s
4 E.Irvine Ferrari Gap 1m 1.583s
5 R.Barrichello Jordan Gap 1m 18.490s
6 J.Alesi Benetton Laps behind: 1
7 P.Diniz Ligier Laps behind: 1
8 M.Hakkinen McLaren Laps behind: 2
9 P.Lamy Minardi Laps behind: 2
10 L.Badoer Forti Laps behind: 4
11 J.Villeneuve Williams Laps behind: 6
Retirements:
O.Panis Ligier Lap: 54
U.Katayma Tyrrell Lap: 45
D.Coulthard McLaren Lap: 44
R.Rosset Footwork Lap: 40
J.Verstappen Footwork Lap: 38
M.Brundle Jordan Lap: 36
H.Frentzen Sauber Lap: 32
G.Fisichella Minardi Lap: 30
J.Herbert Sauber Lap: 25
M.Salo Tyrrell Lap: 23
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Drivers Championship (unofficial)
1 D.Hill 43
2 J.Villeneuve 22
3 M.Schumacher 16
4 J.Alesi 11
5 E.Irvine 9
6 R.Barrichello 7
G.Berger 7
8 M.Hakkinen 5
9 D.Coulthard 4
10 M.Salo 3
11 M.Brundle 1
J.Verstappen 1
O.Panis 1
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
1 Williams 65
2 Ferrari 25
3 Benetton 18
4 McLaren 9
5 Jordan 8
6 Tyrrell 3
7 Footwork 1
Ligier 1
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auto-moto.185vimm,
> P.S. Ovde ne spomenuše da se u zadnjem krugu Šumaheru potpuno zablokirao
> prednji desni točak, te da je tako škripeći i dimeći prošao kroz cilj ;)
Pa, napomenuli su malo ispred. Zar nisi pročitao?
U "Race Resume"
Vladimir
auto-moto.186tomislavr,
I ja isto ocekujem okrsaje Šumija i Kultarda prvenstveno. Još kad
Šumi 1998. predje u Mclaren (a to je vec najavljeno od strane
sportskog direktora Mercedesa), i ako Mercedes do tad doradi
motore u svom maniru, biće jako zanimljivo...
Što se tiče Baričela, a voleo bih da se varam, on niti smrdi nit
miriše. Hilu ne vidim mesto u budućnosti F1 ;)
auto-moto.187wiper,
Nadajmo se da Sumi nikada nece doci u Mc'Laren.
Morao bih da promenim ekipu za koju navijam.
Sto se Mc' tice kad budu imali sampionsku formulu u nju ce prvi
sesti Alen Prost i pokusati da stigne Fandjov rekord od 5 titula.
Ne verujem da neko ko je tako blizu moze tek tako da odustane,
osim toga to je njihov san stici Fandju.
auto-moto.188vpoznanovic,
>> Početak osamdesetih mi je skroz nepoznat što se F1 tiče. Negde (usput) sam
>> čuo da je Rozberg osvojio titulu svetskog prvaka 81. ili 82. godine bez
>> IJEDNE pobede? Ne mogu u to da poverujem. Seća li se iko?
Ujedno odgovor i za Duska.
Izgleda da ste svi tu informaciju pokupili sa istog mjesta, vjerovatno sa
nekog od naših TV prijenosa trka Formule 1. Rosberg je te godine osvojio
Veliku nagradu Švajcarske, 14. trku šampionata. Da ne bi sve ostalo na
konstataciji, evo malo više podataka o njoj:
1982 FORMULA 1 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Switzerland - 29. August 1982. - 14th championship race
Entries: 29
Qualified: 26
Classified: 16
Attendance: 70 000
Circuit: Dijon
Perimeter: 3800 m
Laps: 80
Km: 304.000
Pole Position: Alain Prost - Renault/Renault - 1:01.380 (222.874 km/h)
Classification
Pos. No. Driver Car/Engine Laps Time
1. 6 Keke Rosberg Williams/Ford 80 1:32:41.087
2. 15 Alain Prost Renault/Renault 80 1:32:45.529
3. 8 Niki Lauda McLaren/Ford 80 1:33:41.430
4. 1 Nelson Piquet Brabham/BMW 79 4.442
5. 2 Riccardo Patrese Brabham/BMW 79 1:00.343
6. 11 Elio de Angelis Lotus/Ford 79 -1 lap
7. 3 Michele Alboreto Tyrrell/Ford 79 -1 lap
8. 12 Nigel Mansell Lotus/Ford 79 -1 lap
9. 5 Derek Daly Williams/Ford 79 -1 lap
10. 22 Andrea de Cesaris Alfa Romeo/Alfa Romeo 78 -2 laps
11. 4 Brian Henton Tyrrell/Ford 78 -2 laps
12. 23 Bruno Giacomelli Alfa Romeo/Alfa Romeo 78 -2 laps
13. 7 John Watson McLaren/Ford 77 -3 laps
14. 10 Eliseo Salazar ATS/Ford 77 -3 laps
15. 29 Marc Surer Arrows/Ford 76 -4 laps
16. 16 Rene Arnoux Renault/Renault 75 -5 laps
Retirements
Lap Driver Car/Engine Laps
25 Eddie Cheever Ligier/Matra 70 Handling
9 M. Winkelhock ATS/Ford 56 Chassis
31 J.P. Jarier Osella/Ford 44 Engine
26 Jacques Laffite Ligier/Matra 33 Handling
36 Teo Fabi Toleman/Hart 31 Engine
18 Raul Boesel March/Ford 31 Water leak
17 Rupert Keegan March/Ford 25 Spun off
35 Derek Warwick Toleman/Hart 24 Engine
14 Roberto Guerrero Ensign/Ford 4 Engine
27 Patrick Tambay Ferrari/Ferrari 0 Non-starter
Fastest lap: Alain Prost - Renault/Renault - 1:07.477 (202.736 km/h)
auto-moto.189vpoznanovic,
>> Zna li neko sta se desava u DTM i ITC sampionatima.
Hm, zar nisi znao da je to od ove godine jedan šampionat? Evo tog
obavještenja, rasporeda takmičenja, spiska vozača i rezultata prvih trka
voženih u Hockenheimu.
GTCC/ITC: GTCC and ITC to merge in 1996
DTM (Deutche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft, German Touring Car
Championship) and ITC (International Touring Car) series driven
for season '95 are merged together. Instead of these two series
new FIA championship series for Touring Cars class C1 will be
announced for season '96. However this series has not World
Championship value (only Rally and F1 has that).
Schedule for FIA Championship Class C1 (ITCC) approved by FIA.
Date Track Country
-------------------------------------
Apr 14 Hockenheim Germany
May 12 Nurburgring Germany
May 26 Estoril Portugal
Jun 9 Helsinki Finland
Jun 23 Norisring Germany
Jul 7 Diepholz Germany
Jul 21 Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Aug 4 TI Circuit Japan
Aug 18 Silverstone Great Britain
Sep 1 Nurburgring Germany
Sep 15 TBA France
Sep 29 Mugello Italy
Oct 13 Hockenheim Germany
ITC: 1996 entry list
No. Driver Team Car
--------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Bernd Schneider/D AMG-Motorenbau AMG-Mercedes C-Class
2 Dario Franchitti/GB AMG-Motorenbau AMG-Mercedes C-Class
3 Joerg van Ommen/D AMG-Motorenbau AMG-Mercedes C-Class
4 Jan Magnussen/DK AMG-Motorenbau AMG-Mercedes C-Class
5 Nicola Larini/I Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
6 Alessandro Nannini/I Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
7 Manuel Reuter/D Opel Team Joest Opel Calibra V6 4x4
8 Yannick Dalmas/F Opel Team Joest Opel Calibra V6 4x4
9 Stefano Modena/I Jas-Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
10 Michael Bartels/D Jas-Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
11 Kurt Thiim/DK AMG-Motorenbau AMG-Mercedes C-Class
12 Alexander Grau/D AMG-Motorenbau AMG-Mercedes C-Class
14 Giancarlo Fisichella/I Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
15 Christian Danner/D Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
16 Uwe Alzen/D Opel Team Zakspeed Opel Calibra V6 4x4
17 Klaus Ludwig/D Opel Team Zakspeed Opel Calibra V6 4x4
18 Gabriele Tarquini/I Jas-Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
19 Jason Watt/DK Jas-Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
20 J.J. Lehto/FIN Opel Team Rosberg Opel Calibra V6 4x4
21 Ellen Lohr/D Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes C-Class
22 Bernd Maylaender/D Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes C-Class
24 Oliver Gavin/GB Opel Team Joest Opel Calibra V6 4x4
25 Alexander Wurz/A Opel Team Joest Opel Calibra V6 4x4
28 Gianni Giudici Giudici Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti
44 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Opel Team Rosberg Opel Calibra V6 4x4
ITC: Hockenheim results
---------------Top 10 qualifying / Starting grid------------------------
Pos. Driver Team - Car Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Nicola Larini/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:00.133
2 Alessandro Nannini/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:00.304
3 Giancarlo Fisichella/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:00.725
4 Manuel Reuter/D Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:00.755
5 Jan Magnussen/DK AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:00.775
6 Christian Danner/D Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:00.966
7 Bernd Schneider/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:01.000
8 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:01.302
9 Klaus Ludwig/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:01.360
10 Yannick Dalmas/F Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:01.492
11 Dario Frachitti/GB AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:00.889
12 Joerg van Ommen/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:01.052
13 J.J. Lehto/FIN Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:01.127
14 Michael Bartels/D J.A.S.-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:01.189
15 Stefano Modena/I J.A.S.-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:01.482
16 Uwe Alzen/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:01.559
17 Gabriele Tarquini/I J.A.S.-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:01.912
18 Alexander Grau/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:02.045
19 Bernd Maylander/D Persson-Mercedes C-Class 1:02.177
20 Oliver Gavin/GB Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:02.387
21 Ellen Lohr/D Persson-Mercedes C-Class 1:02.477
22 Alexander Wurz/A Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:03.263
23 Gianni Giudici/I Giudici-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:04.660
24 Kurt Thiim/DK AMG-Mercedes C-Class accident
25 Jason Watt/DK J.A.S.-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti spin
Short track 2 x 38 laps (=100.244km) weather: cloudy Spectators: 85,000
-----------------------------RESULTS RACE 1-----------------------------
Pos. Driver Team - Car Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Manuel Reuter/D Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 40:19.433
2 Jan Magnussen/DK AMG-Mercedes C-Class + 0.709
3 Dario Frachitti/GB AMG-Mercedes C-Class 6.579
4 Bernd Schneider/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 7.707
5 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 19.042
6 Alexander Grau/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 19.458
7 Giancarlo Fisichella/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 36.238
8 Uwe Alzen/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 42.486
9 Ellen Lohr/D Persson-Mercedes C-Class 44.401
10 Alessandro Nannini/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 46.309
11 Nicola Larini/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 47.848
12 Kurt Thiim/DK AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:01.190
13 Christian Danner/D Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti - 1 lap
14 Michael Bartels/D J.A.S.-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti - 1
15 J.J. Lehto/FIN Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 - 1
16 Klaus Ludwig/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 - 8
17 Oliver Gavin/GB Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 -17
FL: Alessandro Nannini/I 1:01.780 (153.72kph)
Not classified: Stefano Modena - fire in lap 2
Yannick Dalmas - accident in lap 11
Uwe Alzen - accident in lap 14
Joerg van Ommen - accident in lap 14
Jason Watt - engine problems
Gabriele Tarquini - accident in lap 20
Klaus Ludwig - broken suspension lap 30
-----------------------------RESULTS RACE 2-----------------------------
Pos. Driver Team - Car Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Jan Magnussen/DK AMG-Mercedes C-Class 39:53.165
2 Bernd Schneider/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1.588
3 Manuel Reuter/D Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 10.674
4 Dario Frachitti/GB AMG-Mercedes C-Class 11.028
5 Alexander Grau/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 16.465
6 Uwe Alzen/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 16.924
7 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 34.193
8 Kurt Thiim/DK AMG-Mercedes C-Class 42.306
9 Joerg van Ommen/D AMG-Mercedes C-Class 44.782
10 Giancarlo Fisichella/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 49.670
11 Yannick Dalmas/F Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 49.877
12 Nicola Larini/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 1:05.023
13 Alessandro Nannini/I Fiat Auto Corse-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti - 1 lap
14 Michael Bartels/D J.A.S.-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti - 1
15 Gianni Giudici/I Giudici-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti - 3
16 Alexander Wurz/A Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 - 7
17 Ellen Lohr/D Persson-Mercedes C-Class -20
18 J.J. Lehto/FIN Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 -23
FL: Jan Magnussen/DK 1:01.417 (154.63 kph)
DNS: Stefano Modena, Klaus Ludwig, Oliver Gavin
Not classified: Christian Danner - gearbox
Alexander Wurz - accident
Next round: May 12 Nurburgring
auto-moto.190tomislavr,
> Zar nisi znao da su DTM i ITC ....
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Hvala.
auto-moto.191tomislavr,
San Marino Grand Prix
Ferrari Press release of 5th May
Imola, 5th May 1996
Second place for Michael Schumacher and fourth for Eddie Irvine
in the San Marino Grand Prix: the first time this season that
both Ferraris have finished in the points. Because of a clutch
problem, both drivers had a difficult start which influenced the
rest of their race. Starting from pole, Schumacher was passed by
Coulthard and was therefore unable to pull out the lead which
had been the race strategy: with a lighter and therefore a
quicker car. Irvine lost two places at the start and found
himself eighth and found it hard work to get clear. Schumacher
managed to pass Coulthard only thanks to the first pit-stop at
the end of lap 21 and was unable to build up a big enough lead
to prevent Hill from taking the lead at the time of Damon's own
refuelling stop.
Shortly after this, the World Champion stayed in second place
even after he made his second stop at the end of lap 40. He
finished the race approximately 16 seconds behind the winner.
The distance would probably have been less if he had not lost 9
seconds around lap 45 when he was held up by two slower cars who
would not let him pass, for which they were penalised by the
stewards. On the last lap his front right wheel locked up
because of a brake problem, but it did not prevent him from
crossing the finish line.
"The wheel locked up at Acque Minerali," said Schumacher. "I was
really worried because I did not think the race was over. As to
the rest, I did not really have the possibility to win. In
practice everything went very well but in the race it was
obvious that the Williams, at least Damon's, were quicker than
me. The F 310 is much improved but we still have a lot of work
to do. If, in the next race at Monaco, we take the decision to
use the evolution of the engine that we used here in qualifying,
I think we can take another step forward. But I am happy with
how things turned out today, above all because the atmosphere
here in Imola is really marvelous."
Irvine was fourth when he made his first pit-stop at the end of
lap 27, and rejoined sixth but he made up one place thanks to
his second pit-stop at the end of lap 41 and finished fourth.
"My start was atrociuos," said Eddie. "But I am very happy with
the final result. Happy for the team, for me and for the
fantastic fans. To be honest, at the end of the race I did not
think I would make it back to the pits. The crowd on the track
were patting me, hugging me and even tried to take off my helmet
and gloves. I am also glad we took the decision to change the
set-up on the grid which was a big improvement. The car was good
and this allowed me, for the first time this season to get into
a good rythm and drive well. Now we have more developments on
the way and I am feeling confident."
"I am happy with the final result which is a positive one," said
Sporting Director Jean Todt. "Both Michael and Eddie drove a
good race. But we must not hide the fact that we still have
problems. We have to improve the clutch to avoid having more
difficult starts which cost us precious seconds. We must also
improve our pit-stops. It is useless to look for excuses in the
way the race turned out: we are not yet at the same level as
Williams even if er are making a lot of progress." Ferrari will
test at Imola with Irvine on Tuesday and with Schumacher for
three days after that.
auto-moto.192tomislavr,
TAG/McLaren Marketing Services Limited
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San Marino Prix
The Marlboro McLaren Mercedes team goes to Italy for the fifth
round of the 1996 FIA Formula One World Championship greatly
encouraged by David Coulthard's superb drive to third place in a
vintage Grand Prix of Europe last weekend. The upbeat atmosphere
filling the Marlboro McLaren Mercedes garage on Sunday evening
was also strengthened by Mika Hakkinen's strong showing in the
early part of the race.
"The testing programme we have been carrying out is starting to
pay off", commented Ron Dennis, Managing Director of McLaren
International. "There was a feeling in Germany that the team had
definitely turned a corner, with a significant improvement made
in the performance of both MP4/11 chassis and Mercedes FO110
engine. We will continue to work hard to confirm this trend in
Italy."
Most Marlboro McLaren Mercedes personnel, as well as the cars,
travelled directly from the Nurburgring circuit to the Autodromo
Enzo e Dino Ferrari in Imola, a typical small Italian town east
of the Appenine mountains, near Bologna. The electric atmosphere
created by the tifosi, together with the Italian food and wine,
makes this venue particularly popular with the Formula One
teams, who have been racing there since 1981.
Until 1995, the 4.895km-long circuit was a high speed track, but
its character was totally transformed by the chicanes which were
introduced last year to slow the cars down. The Imola circuit
remains nevertheless faster than the Nurburgring and represents
an extremely challenging venue for both drivers and cars.
Further developments will feature on the Marlboro McLaren
Mercedes MP4/11 in Italy and the team expects to take another
step forward as a result. Marlboro McLaren Mercedes will stay in
Imola after the Grand Prix to resume its test programme, with
Mika Hakkinen, David Coulthard and Alain Prost all taking part.
auto-moto.193obren,
Jacques Villeneuve - Biography
Jacques was born on April 9th, 1971 in St-Jean d'Iberville, a
medium size town near Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He is the first
child of Gilles and Joan Villeneuve. Two years later, the couple
had a daughter they named Melanie.
Jacques entered this world in the Villeneuve family where car
racing is a passion. His father, the late Gilles Villeneuve ,
was a legendary Formula 1 driver racing for the great Ferrari
team. Gilles died in an accident during the qualifications for
the 1982 Belgium Grand Prix. Jacques was 11 years old. Gilles'
brother Jacques (the uncle of the young Jacques) also had an
interesting career as a car driver. In 1985, he won at Elkhart
Lake becoming the first Canadian to win an IndyCar race. Knowing
this family background, it is no surprise that the young Jacques
says he always knew he would become a professional race car
driver.
In the fall of 1977, the Villeneuves moved to Europe because of
Gilles' career in F1 racing. They first lived in Cannes, France
for 2 years and then moved to Monaco where Jacques spent his
adolescence years. At one point he got quite involved in skiing
which he practiced in Switzerland. But car racing is what he
really wanted to do. So at 15 years old he attended car racing
schools in Canada. However, it is in Italy where he raced 3
years in "Formula 3", that he mastered the basics of his trade.
In 1991, Jacques' third year in Italy, he bumped into Craig
Pollock at the Monaco Grand Prix. The two had first met nine
years earlier when Pollock was his teacher at the College
Beausoleil in Switzerland. They had since lost touch and Pollock
was now into motorsport promotions. Jacques felt Pollock knew
the business and wanted him to become his manager. After a few
attempts, Jacques finally convinced him.
It was Pollock that sent Jacques off to Japan for the 1992 F3
season. The idea was for him to gain maturity and self
confidence. The problem Jacques had in Europe was that people
only viewed him as Gilles' son. In Japan, he selected to live
alone in a small Tokyo appartement. This allowed him to
concentrate on his racing. In a very competitive series, Jacques
completed his first great year finishing 2nd for the
championship.
After an impressive 1993 Formula Atlantic season, Jacques moved
on to IndyCar where he had 2 incredible years. Those 3 years of
association with team owner Barry Green were instrumental for
Jacques' career. In fact, those years allowed him to collect 3
honours in a row: 1993 Formula Atlantic Rookie-of- the-Year,
1994 IndyCar Rookie-of-the-Year and 1995 IndyCar Champion.
After winning the 1995 Indianapolis 500 race, a number of
Formula 1 team started showing serious interest in Jacques. It
soon became evident he had an important decision to make... In
October, hence before even winning the IndyCar championship,
Jacques announced he would be moving to Formula 1 for the 1996
season.
During his IndyCar seasons, Jacques lived in Indianapolis. He
also spent a lot of time in Montreal where his girlfriend,
Sandrine Gros d'Aillon, was an university student. When Jacques
decided to pursue his career in Formula 1, he also established
his main residence in Monaco.
auto-moto.194obren,
Jacques Villeneuve - Career Overview
The Early Years
1993 Formula Atlantic Season
1994 IndyCar Season
1995 IndyCar Season
1996 Formula 1 Season
The Early Years
In 1986, thus at 15 years old, Jacques enroled himself in the
Jim Russell Formula Ford school in Mont-Tremblant, a small city
a few miles north of Montreal. The following year, Jacques
attended the Formula 2000 school in Shannonville, Ontario. In
1988, Jacques got a first taste of competition when he raced in
3 Alfa Italian Touring Car races. He then raced for the next 3
seasons, 1989 to 1991, in the Italian Formula 3 series.
It is in 1992 that Jacques' career made an important step
forward. That year he raced in the Japanese F3 series for Team
Tom's Toyota. He won 3 races and finished 2nd in the
championship. That same year, Jacques also finished 3rd at the
Macau F3 Grand Prix and made his North American debut at the
Trois-Rivieres Formula Atlantic race.
1993 Formula Atlantic Season.
Jacques and his teammate Claude Bourbonnais ran for the
important Team Forsythe-Green Racing. Jacques' "light blue" and
white car wore #10, had a Ralt RT40 chassis and ran on Yokohama
tires.
Jacques first Atlantic season results are spectacular. With
almost zero experience on the circuits, he managed to win 5 of
the 15 races. All Jacques' wins came on road circuits. A special
moment was his close win in Montreal after a hard fought battle
on the circuit named after his father. Jacques also led the
series for most pole positions (7) and most fastest laps (6).
Jacques was named the 1993 Formula Atlantic Rookie-of-the-Year.
He finished 3rd in the championship race with 185 points.
1994 IndyCar Season.
Jacques made his debut in IndyCar racing in 1994 with Team
Forsythe-Green Racing. The "light blue" and white color of his
#12 car is the corporate color of his major sponsor: Player's
Ltd (a tobacco company). The car had a Ford Cosworth V8 engine,
a Reynard chassis and ran on Goodyear tires.
Jacques had a difficult start in IndyCar driving as he failed to
earn points in the first 3 races of the 1994 season. Then came
the Indianapolis 500 race and the world took notice of the young
Villeneuve. Starting from the 4th position, he drove a very
smooth race and finished 2nd behind Al Unser Jr. Later, on
September 11th, Jacques won his very first IndyCar race at
Elkhart Lake. Then in the 16th and last race of the season in
Monterey, he crossed the finish line 3rd.
Jacques was named the 1994 IndyCar Rookie-of-the-Year. He had 3
podium finishes (one on each step) and finished 6th in the
championship race with 94 points.
1995 IndyCar Season.
Jacques was the sole driver for Team Green Racing. His car was
still "light blue" but now wore #27. The car had a Ford Cosworth
V8 engine, a Reynard chassis and ran on Goodyear tires.
Jacques started out in force by winning the first race of the
year in Miami. His second win will be remembered as one of the
most exciting runs in the history of the Indianapolis 500.
Jacques overcame the greatest deficit in the race history,
coming back from a 2 lap penality to win! A third win came at
Elkhart Lake which he won for the second straight year. At the
Cleveland race, with less than 2 laps to go, Jacques left his
solid 3rd position and made a sensational pass of 2 cars to take
the lead and the checkered flag! On August 10, Jacques announced
he would be moving to Formula 1 in 1996.
Jacques is the 1995 IndyCar Champion! His fantastic year
includes 6 poles (earned in the last 9 races) and 7 podium
finishes: 4 wins, 1 second and 2 third places. Jacques is the
first Canadian and the youngest man (24 years and 5 months) to
win the IndyCar championship!
1996 Formula 1 Season.
Jacques is the #2 driver of the Williams/Renault F1 team. His
teammate Damon Hill drives the #5 car while Jacques has #6.
Their cars have a FW18 chassis, a Renault V10 engine and
Goodyear tires.
auto-moto.195obren,
Damon Hill's Personal Biography
First drove a car: Aged five years
First drove in competition: Motorcycle racing in 1979
First racing machine: Motorcycle - TZ350 Yamaha
First racing car: Formula Ford 1600 - Van Diemen RF84 in 1984
First victory: 1984 - Brands Hatch, UK in Formula Ford 1600
First drove Grand Prix car: Early 1988, a Bennetton Ford 188 (turbo) at
Paul Ricard in France
First Grand Prix: 1992 - Silverstone, UK driving a Brabham-Judd BT60B
First Grand Prix victory: 1993 - Hungarian Grand Prix, driving a Williams
Renault RW15C
Hobbies: Motorcycles, golf, keeping fit and guitars
Favourite music: All kinds from Iggy Pop to Mozart
Favourite food: Roast chicken, parsnips and carrots
Favourite drink: Beer and wine
For The Record
1994.
BBC Sports Personality of the Year
Autosport International Racing Driver of the Year
Driver of the Year, Guild of Motoring Writers
The Outstanding Young Persons Award, South Midland Region (awarded
by the British Junior Chamber and TNT Express)
Daily Star Gold Star Award of Courage
Newsround's Sportsman of the Year
Plus the following British Racing Driversĺ Club Awards
The BRDC Gold Star
The Graham Hill Trophy (awarded to the British driver for the most
meritorious performance in single seater racing, other than FF1600)
The Richard Seaman Trophy (awarded to the British driver scoring
the highest number of points in International foreign races, on the
Gold Star system of marking)
The Johnny Wakefield Trophy (awarded to the driver who establishes
the fastest lap each season on the Silverstone Grand Prix circuit)
The ERA Club Trophy (awarded to the British driver who, driving
a British car, established the most meritorious performance of the
year outside the United Kingdom)
1993.
The Daily Express Sportsman of the Year
The BRDC Gold Star
The Ferodo Award for the British Competition Driver of the Year
Between 1983 and 1985 Damon Hill was a motorcycle despatch
rider, using his earnings to fund his racing career.
auto-moto.196obren,
David Coulthard
Nationality: Scottish
Date of Birth: 27 March 1971
Place of Birth: Twynholm, Scotland
Marital Status: Single, girlfriend Andrea Murray
Resident: Monte Carlo, Monaco
Competition History
1982-1988 Karting - three times Scottish Champion, twice winner
of the Scottish Open Championship and British Super 1
Championship (Junior),winner of the Scottish Open Championship
(Senior)
1989 FF 1600 racing, winner of both FF1600 Championships
(Junior). 3rd in the Brands Hatch Formula Ford Festival.
Competes and impresses in selected senior races
1990 Joins Paul Stewart Racing (PSR) in the GM Lotus team.
Competes in British Vauxhall Lotus Challenge and GM Lotus
Euroseries. Winner of the McLaren Autosport Young Driver of the
Year Award. Tests the McLaren-Honda MP4/5 Formula One car
1991 Runner-up in British F3 Championship,with 5 wins (more than
any other driver in the Championship). Winner of the "European
Marlboro Masters of F3" and the Macau Grand Prix
1992 F3000 racing with PSR. F1 test with Benetton-Ford
1993 Test driver for Williams-Renault. 3rd in F3000 Championship
with PSR. GT Class Winner at the Le Mans 24 Hour Race with
Jaguar
Formula One
1994 Test driver for Williams-Renault. Promoted to race driver
after Ayrton Senna's fatal accident at Imola. 14 pts, 8th in the
Drivers' Championship. Voted Scottish Sports Personality of the
Year and ITV Young Sports Personality of the Year
1995 Williams-Renault: First Grand Prix win in Portugal. 49 pts,
3rd in the Drivers' Championship. 7 podium finishes, 5 pole
positions
1996 Joins Marlboro McLaren Mercedes
F1 Statistics (at the end of 1995)
Grand Prix Starts: 25
Grand Prix Points: 63
(1 x 1st, 5 x 2nd, 3 x 3rd, 2 x 4th, 2 x 5th, 1 x 6th)
Grand Prix Wins: 1
Pole Positions: 5
Copyright 1996 TAG/McLaren Marketing Services Limited
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Problems for Schumacher at Imola
Imola, 9th May.
It was a difficult day of testing for Michael Schumacher at
Imola. A planned grand prix distance simulation using the new
evolution engine was interrupted after 160 kms because of an
electrical problem in the gearbox. The test was subsequently
interrupted by rain. When the track was dry, Schumacher went out
again but spun off the track. The car was repaired but there was
insufficient time to complete the test. Schumacher completed a
total of 47 laps with a best time of 1m 27.74, a time under that
of Damon Hill's best lap in last Sunday's Grand Prix. The German
driver was happy with the performance of the new engine.
Tomorrow Schumacher will complete his long run, and then, at the
request of Goodyear will try out some new tyres.
auto-moto.200tomislavr,
Imola test comes to an end
Imola. 10th May.
Ferrari's test session at Imola finished today. Michael
Schumacher finished the race distance run that he had been
unable to finish the previous day, completing a further 21 laps
with a best time of 1m 28.24. In the afternoon it rained and
the German driver therefore completed only a few laps in the
wet. "I am happy with this test," said Schumacher. "As I had
said after the qualifying session for the San Marino Grand
Prix, this engine represents a good step forward. If we can use
it in the race in Monaco then we will be able to put up a
better fight against the Williams."
auto-moto.201vpoznanovic,
Evo nešto za istoriju...
Friday, May 10
Arie Goes 239.260
ARIE BLISTERS SPEED MARK AT IMS
Arie Luyendyk turned the fast lap in the history of the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway with a remarkable 239.260 mph in the Jonathan
Byrd's Cafeteria/bryant Heating and Cooling Reynard-Ford Cosworth.
The new surface is giving the drives exceptional grip and that,
coupled with the tire technology, or in Luyendyk's case the
improved Firestone Firehawk radial, as made the cars just that
much quicker. Luyendyk is running a Series 1.5 engine, and he says
if he had more power, a 240 laps would be entirely possible. The
newest versions of Indy Car engines are being run in the PPG Indy
Car World Series, which features the Honda, Ford Cosworth XD, the
Mercedes-Benz and the new Toyota. Only Walker Racing has the XD
engine from Ford, while Galles Racing has the newest Mercedes.
Luyendyk doesn't think the 239 lap is possible in qualifying, as
he caught a tow from another car.
"I got help," said Luyendyk. "I don't think we can do that on our
own and I got a pretty good tow on that lap. I figured it would
look good on paper (laughing). It sounds good, anyway.
Luyendyk, who won the pole with a track record speed of over 183
mph at Phoenix, originally said he wasn't concentrating on the
pole here, knowing that the menard cars would be hard to beat.
After all, he was one of John Menard's drivers last year. He knows
the program. But all that began to change early in the week, when
Luyendyk was running right with the menard drivers Tony Stewart,
Scott Brayton, Eddie Cheever and Mark Dismore. He began thinking
about the pole.
"I think I could have had it last year," said Luyendyk. "I think I
had a shot at it. It didn't get it, and I was little bit
disappointed. This time around, we have been focusing on going
fast and I was little surprised we jumped that much yesterday, but
the backup car that I did it with is just a better car. It went
through the corners without scrubbing off as much speed as the
other car and it just felt real smooth through the turns. As soon
as you don't scrub off the speed in the corners, you automatically
increase your speed on the straightaway and the momentum takes
over.
"I think we can put in four laps in the 327 range (if conditions
are cool), but the first lap is never going to be as quick as the
last one because you burn off some fuel. You could probably start
off with a low 37 and wind up with a mid 37."
Luyendyk thinks race speeds could be as high as 225, if they
qualify at 237, given what race speeds have been in the past in
relation to qualifying speeds. However, Luyendyk also said there
was no sense in going any faster than it took to win.
His principle rivals are, of course, the Menards, but rookie Buzz
Calkins, Buddy Lazier, Roberto Guerrero, rookie Richie Hearn and
Scott Sharp have all been over 230.
auto-moto.202vpoznanovic,
A ovo su ostale novosti sa jučerašnjih kvalifikacija za Indianapolis 500...
DELLA PENNA WANTS LOTTERY SYSTEM FOR POP-OFF VALVES
First year car owner John Della Penna, who fields cars for Richie
Hearn, announced that he had sent a letter to Tony George, Jack
Long and Cary Agajanian, suggesting a lottery system for pop-off
valves.
In the letter, Della Penna stated, "To be fair and eliminate the
stigma of 'special pop-off valves' I suggest a lottery system be
implemented before qualifying and right before the race. All
competitors would draw a number and randomly pick a valve out of
either the two groups, 45 inch valves or 55 valves depending on
powerplant. This is the same system that NASCAR uses for the
restrictor plates and is easy to implement."
Some believe that is not a good idea, because teams would not have
any time to adjust their cars to work with whatever pop-off valve
they get, and it's common that one valve could blow off at 44.8
inches, while another would go off at 45.2 inches.
However, according to Ford Indy Car Program Manager Don Hayward,
Della Penna's idea might work.
"There's no reason in my mind, technically, why a pop-off valve
lottery couldn't work," Hayward said. "Certainly there are natural
differences between valves due to mechanical tolerances. But
assuming all of the pop-off valves are set the same, they should
react the same way to a given engine make. If that is not the
case, then it is up to the teams to work with their boost control
systems to optimize the effectiveness of that valve.
"A random lottery for pop-off valves would work a lot like
NASCAR's distribution of restrictor plates at Daytona and
Talladega, which seems to work pretty well for them."
The controversy this time around is not so much with the valves
being distributed to teams using the Ford Cosworth or in the case
of Galles, the Mercedes-Benz, but with the 55-inch vales being
distributed to teams using the menard V6, or an old version of the
Buick Indy V8. There had been the same controversy in 1996, and
according to Arie Luyendyk, who drove for Team menard last year,
the problem has been addressed and "Mike Devin (USAC technical
director) is on top of it."
"USAC is aware, and was aware, of everything that was going on
last year," said Luyendyk. "If they want to come out and have us
pick valves, that's fine with me, because we have 45 inches right
now, so there's no big deal there. It's the other valves. I'm not
worried about the 45-inch vales, I'm worried about the 55-inch
vales."
How important is additional boost, beyond 55-inches, for the
menard cars?
"I can tell you one thing, if they run 55 inches of boost, the
Menards will not get the pole," said Luyendyk.
Della Penna pointed the finger at USAC and the IRL, saying, "I
feel that nothing has really been done to satisfy the requirements
to put everyone at ease and that everyone is being treated in a
fair manner...I think it would put everyone's mind at ease that
every effort is being made to have a fair and level playing field
for everyone." Della Penna doesn't like the system here.
"The way it works right now is that every car has an assigned
valve," said Della Penna. "I'm proposing that it be changed and
instead of having one valve per car, is to just have a pool of
vales, 45 inch ones for the Cosworths and 55 inch ones for the
Buicks. Right before qualifying randomly select the valve, put it
on the car and go run."
Della Penna then pointed the finger at Team Menard.
"I have heard specifically that last year the Team Menard managed
to run more boost during qualifying than the 55 inches they were
supposed to," said Della Penna. "It is hear say and I do not have
proof."
Della Penna also said the speed runs by Menard were not in the
best interest of the series.
"This whole thing has turned into a big media hype and we've lost
track that we are here to race," Della Penna noted. "Just to
explain, we are out there for rookie orientation and you have guys
that are running around at 185 mph, who are just beginning the
orientation and meanwhile you have some guy out there running at
231. Last year that wasn't allowed. That was created for media
hype and that has to stop and we have to concentrate on the race
and safety.
"Ask Arie point blank how many inches they ran last year. I am not
making a charge, I am just telling you what I heard. I do not have
any hard proof. USAC knows they ran more than 55 inches last year.
USAC knows it, menard knows it and the IRL knows it and we know
it."
John Menard denied having any preferential treatment. In fact,
menard has been petitioning USAC and the IRL for additional boost.
"Whatever rules they (USAC & IRL) decide to put in place, we'll
follow them," said John Menard, whose prize rookie Tony Stewart
has topped the 237 mark. "We have followed them and we intend to
follow them in the future. John Della Penna...it's pretty common
knowledge this is his last IRL race. He's made it public knowledge
that he's going to go to the CART series, but I'm sure he's
motivated by making a fine home for himself when he gets up there.
I think it's really slanderous and vicious for him and
irresponsible for him to do what he's doing. I'm very disappointed
in the situation. We just hope we can all go racing and put this
one behind us as close as possible."
auto-moto.203vpoznanovic,
FROM THE DAILY TRACKSIDE REPORT:
At 11:05 a.m., Scott Brayton in the #2 Glidden Menards Special turned
a lap at 235.270 miles per hour, fastest of the day at that point
only five minutes into practice. At 11:19 a.m., #2 Brayton upped
it to 235.688. At 11:32 a.m., Tony Stewart in the #20
Menards/Glidden/Quaker State Special reached 236.004, fastest of
the day at that point. At 11:50 a.m., Arie Luyendyk in the #35
Treadway Racing entry reached 236.992, fastest of the day at that
point. At 12:07 p.m., Scott Sharp in the #11 Conseco AJ Foyt
Racing entry, reached 235.300, third fastest of the day, and
followed it up with 235.701 at 12:28 p.m., still third fastest. At
12:29 p.m., #35 Luyendyk reached 238.045, fastest practice lap in
Speedway history at that point. At 1:04 p.m., #35 Luyendyk reached
239.260, fastest practice lap in Speedway history. The track
closed at 3:25 p.m. because of rain.
By 1:15 p.m., 13 drivers and 13 cars had exceeded 230 miles per
hour in practice today. On "Fast Friday" of 1995 (May 12), 13
drivers and 16 cars exceeded 230 miles per hour in practice, both
track records.
ABC Sports announced today that the network's long-standing
broadcasting relationship with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
would be extended through 1999. The agreement covers broadcasts
for the Indianapolis 500, the related Indy Racing League (IRL)
events, and the Brickyard 400 NASCAR Winston Cup stock car event
at IMS. The announcement was made in the Trackside Conference Room
by ABC Sports president Steve Bornstein; David Downs, senior vice
president of programming for ABC Sports; Tony George, president of
the Speedway and Bill Donaldson, IMS vice president. ABC Sports'
existing contracts with the Speedway and IRL were extended through
1999 and ABC will have the first negotiation rights to IRL events
during that period.
Pole Day Schedule: 7:00 a.m. -- Gates open 8:00 - 8:30 a.m. --
Group 1 practice 8:30 - 9:00 a.m. -- Group 2 practice 9:00 -10:00
a.m. -- Open practice 11:00 - 6:00 p.m. -- Qualifications and/or
practice
Robbie Buhl completed the final observation phase of his driver's
test, becoming the 14th of the month to do so. Veteran observers
were Eddie Cheever, Steve Chassey and Tero Palmroth.
ARIE LUYENDYK: (about fastest lap today): "I definitely had a
pretty good tow on that lap. It was a black car -- I don't know
who it was, maybe John Paul Jr. The lap looked good on paper
though."(about qualifying): "I'd really like to get the pole. Last
year I had a pretty good shot at it but it didn't happen. This
year, we have a one-car team and have a really good shot. I think
we can put in two laps in the 237 range. Speed fluctuates. The
first lap is never as fast but we can probably end up in the 237
range. You only want to run as fast as you have to go in my mind."
auto-moto.204vpoznanovic,
BRIEF EXPLANATION OF QUALIFYING PROCEDURES:
1. The pole position is decided by the fastest qualifier on the first
day, or the fastest qualifier after one trip through the original
qualifying line, whichever comes LAST.
2. Each car can make three qualification attempts. When a car
completes a four-lap, 10-mile qualification attempt, its speed
becomes official. The car may not requalify. The driver, if the
car is bumped, may qualify in another car.
3. If a top 25 car in Indy Racing League points meets the minimum
average speed requirement of 220.000 miles per hour, it cannot be
bumped.
4. Cars must meet the minimum average speed requirement of 220.000
mph to be eligible for the field.
5. Cars eligible under the IRL qualifying provision for spots in
the field if they meet the minimum speed: #2 Team Menard, #3 Team
Menard, #4 Della Penna Motorsports, #5 Jonathan Byrd/Treadway, #7
Team Scandia, #9 Hemelgarn Racing, #11 AJ Foyt Enterprises, #12
Bradley Motorsports, #14 AJ Foyt Enterprises, #15 Tempero-Giuffre,
#16 Team Blueprint Racing, #17 Leigh Miller Racing, #18 PDM
Racing, #20 Team Menard, #21 Pagan Racing, #25 Tempero-Giuffre
Racing, #27 Team Blueprint Racing, #33 Team Scandia, #41 AJ Foyt
Enterprises, #45 Zunne Group Racing, #54 Beck Motorsports, #64
Project Indy, #75 Cunningham Racing, #90 Team Scandia, #91
Hemelgarn Racing.
auto-moto.205vpoznanovic,
SPONSORSHIP ANNOUNCEMENTS
In an announcement this morning, the Hoosier Lottery will sponsor the
#12 Bradley Motorsports entry assigned to Buzz Calkins. In
addition, May 17 will be Hoosier Lottery Day at the Speedway; the
Hoosier Lottery will award 5,000 tickets to the fastest qualifying
driver on both May 18 and May 19; and the Hoosier Millionaire game
show will be taped at Fan Fest May 24. "The Hoosier Lottery
reached an agreement with Bradley to become a primary sponsor for
the Indianapolis 500," said John Dillon, Hoosier Lottery Director.
"Buzz and the Calkins family are superb and we think they are the
best team here." Calkins said, "Thanks to everyone at the Hoosier
Lottery. It's nice to have a local community sponsor and we hope
the relationship is beneficial to them and us. And the Hoosier
Lotto is up to $5 million this week."
LANCO International, Inc., and its subsidiary Mi-Jack Products,
Inc., has announced a sponsorship of Alessandro Zampedri driving
Team Scandia's #8 Mi-Jack/AGIP/Dinema entry.
Treadway Racing announced today that the Oldsmobile Aurora V8
engine will power the team's Indy Racing League program in 1997.
Treadway becomes the first IRL team to commit to a specific engine
program for 1997. "We believe the Oldsmobile engine will be the
superior option for the 1997 IRL season," said Fred Treadway. Ed
Keating, program manager for the Aurora IRL project, said, "we are
honored that they have the confidence in our program to make a
commitment at this time.
29 cars were on the track today, running 685 laps. Cars on track
today: #2 Brayton; #3 Cheever; #4 Hearn; #7 Salazar; #8 Zampedri;
#9 Gregoire, #10 Murphey; #11 Sharp; #12 Calkins; #14 Hamilton;
#15 Gosek; #16 Parsons; #18 Paul Jr.; #20 Stewart; #21 Guerrero;
#22 Jourdain Jr.; #25 Gosek; #27 Guthrie; #30 Dismore; #33
Alboreto; #35 Luyendyk; #41 Greco; #45 St. James; #54 Buhl; #60
Groff; #64 Unser; #70 Jones; #91 Lazier; #96 Durant.
A total of 46 cars are now at the Speedway, 42 have passed
technical inspection, 38 have received final inspection stickers
and none are in the process. 33 drivers have been on the track to
date. There were 11 yellows for 2 hours, 48 minutes. At 11 a.m.,
the temperature was 73 degrees and winds were SW at 8 miles per
hour. At 2:10 p.m., the temperature was 71 degrees with winds NW
at 25 mph with gusts kicking at 32 mph. At 3:30 p.m., the
temperature was 64 degrees and winds were south at 8 mph.
auto-moto.206vpoznanovic,
Today's Time and Speed
1996 Indianapolis 500
Practice Session Summary - 5/10/96
Today's Best Speed
1 35 Luyendyk, Arie 95 R/F/F 30 37.616 239.260
2 20 Stewart, Tony 95 L/M/F 10 38.135 236.004
3 11 Sharp, Scott 95 L/F/G 28 38.184 235.701
4 2 Brayton, Scott 95 L/M/F 19 38.186 235.688
5 12 Calkins, Buzz 95 R/F/F 43 38.348 234.693
6 91 Lazier, Buddy 95 R/F/F 19 38.399 234.381
7 30 Dismore, Mark 95 L/M/F 38 38.676 232.702
8 7 Salazar, Eliseo 95 L/F/G 28 38.700 232.558
9 33 Alboreto, Michele 95 R/F/G 37 38.762 232.186
10 4 Hearn, Richie 95 R/F/G 41 38.887 231.440
11 21 Guerrero, Roberto 95 R/F/G 11 38.889 231.428
12 70 Jones, Davy 95 L/MI/G 34 38.944 231.101
13 14 Hamilton, Davey 95 L/F/G 33 38.984 230.864
14 60 Groff, Mike 95 R/F/G 27 39.172 229.756
15 41 Greco, Marco 94 L/F/G 39 39.299 229.013
16 22 Jourdain Jr, Michel 95 L/F/G 12 39.623 227.141
17 64 Unser, Johnny 95 R/F/G 16 39.825 225.989
18 8 Zampedri, Alessandro 95 L/F/G 22 39.880 225.677
19 45 St James, Lyn 94 L/F/F 25 39.913 225.490
20 18 Paul, John 93 L/M/G 10 40.096 224.461
21 16 Parsons, Johnny 93 L/M/F 17 40.345 223.076
22 9 Gregoire, Stephan 95 R/F/F 20 40.415 222.690
23 96 Durant, Paul 92 L/B/G 8 40.483 222.316
24 10 Murphey, Brad 94 R/F/F 18 40.600 221.675
25 3 Cheever, Eddie 95 L/M/F 12 40.827 220.442
26 27 Guthrie, Jim 93 L/M/F 26 41.274 218.055
27 54 Buhl, Robbie 94 L/F/F 29 41.592 216.388
28 15 Gosek, Joe 92 L/B/G 19 45.364 198.395
29 25 Gosek, Joe 92 L/B/G 13 45.713 196.881
30 5 Luyendyk, Arie 95 R/F/F 0 0.000 0.000
31 32 Stewart, Tony 95 L/M/F 0 0.000 0.000
32 44 Hearn, Richie 95 R/F/G 0 0.000 0.000
33 84 Sharp, Scott 94 L/F/G 0 0.000 0.000
34 7 Salazar, Eliseo 95 L/F/G 0 0.000 0.000
35 21 Guerrero, Roberto 95 R/F/G 0 0.000 0.000
36 23 Dismore, Mark 95 L/M/F 0 0.000 0.000
37 72 Jones, Davy 95 L/MI/G 0 0.000 0.000
38 36 Drinan, Dan 91 L/B/G 0 0.000 0.000
39 93 Gardner, Racin 94 L/F/G 0 0.000 0.000
40 45 Tolsma, Randy 94 L/F/F 0 0.000 0.000
41 36 Carlson, Tyce 91 L/B/G 0 0.000 0.000
42 43 Velez, Fermin 94 L/F/G 0 0.000 0.000
43 15 Bell, Justin 92 L/B/G 0 0.000 0.000
Legend - Chassis: L=Lola, R=Reynard
Engine: B=Buick, F=Ford Cosworth, M=Menard V6, MI=Mercedes Ilmor
Tire: F=Firestone, G=Goodyear
auto-moto.207tomislavr,
Ajde, ajde evo ti... ;)
f1slike.zipauto-moto.208sale.car,
!?! Ajde, ajde evo ti... ;)
10x... Btw, drugi put imaj obzira :) ja sam na 2400 :)))))
10x agen ;)
Cya
auto-moto.209vpoznanovic,
Saturday, May 11
Brayton Wins Indy 500 Pole
BRAYTON QUICKEST IN DRAMATIC INDY 500 POLE DAY...
Scott Brayton established track qualifying record that is likely to
stand for a long time, but his record-breaking run for the pole of
the 80th running of the Indianapolis 500 was only a part of what
turned out to be a dramatic day.
Brayton's four lap average of 233.718 mph, was just a touch better
than Arie Luyendyk's 233.390, but long after Brayton earned the
pole, Luyendyk's day got worse. USAC disallowed the run because
they found the car to be seven pounds under weight. Cars must
weigh 1550 pounds without fuel and driver and Arie's was found to
be 1543.
USAC chief steward Keith Ward said that the Treadway Racing team
did not intentionally run Luyendyk in a light car, but that his
qualification run would be disallowed. The car, however, was not
disqualified and Luyendyk will be able to run it again, only with
one qualification attempt charged. Arie's 234.742 mph run on the
third lap was a track record, but that, too, was disallowed.
Luyendyk's other car is actually faster, but it was not used in
qualifying because it lost a motor during practice.
What is perplexing is that Luyendyk's car was 12 pounds heavy,
prior to being presented for tech before the run. It lost 19
pounds.
According to team owner Fred Treadway, Luyendyk uttered something
in Dutch to wife Mieke when told of the USAC decision, then left
the race track.
The first to break the mark set by Roberto Guerrero in 1992, was
Davy Jones, who turned in a 232.882 mph run in Rick Galles' Lola
Mercedes-Benz.
"We just worked up to speed in small increments," said Jones, who
inherited a front row starting berth because of Luyendyk's DQ. "If
we had a little more track time, we could have gone faster."
Jones' pole run was short lived as Stewart promptly went out and
registered an impressive 233.100 in one of John Menard's V6
rockets. While it wasn't as strong as the 237 he had posted in
practice earlier in the week, under the poor weather conditions,
which included heavy air and temperatures in the 50's, the run was
about as good as possible at the time.
"I held the throttle down for four laps," said Stewart.
Stewart was naturally disappointed, and knew that he, like
Brayton, could have done the same thing.(p) "My backup car was
almost as good as my primary car," Stewart explained. "Where we
were at that time, it would not have been a logical decision (to
bump himself). We were sitting on the pole, so there was no use in
worrying about it. We wouldn't have had time to prepare the car.
That car will race very well.
"I got excited. I was really disappointed when Arie knocked us off
the pole, but then when Scotty got back in line and I saw the
excitement on his face, I was excited for the team. It was a great
morale booster after I got knocked off to get one of our cars back
on top."
Stewart is pumped up for the race, and perhaps a little too
frisky. "They better be on their toes on the start, that's all
I've got to say," said Stewart. "I plan on leading it in the first
turn."
Stewart was paying attention to Luyendyk.
"I was over in FanFest when he went out and I probably hit 10
children and four adults on the golf cart on the way over here. I
wasn't going to miss it."
Brayton's run came minutes after Luyendyk's, about 15 minutes
before the 6:00 closing gun. Track conditions had improved
significantly since Stewart's run earlier in the day, with the sun
peeking out between the clouds and much less humidity in the air.
When Luyendyk made his run, Brayton was sixth on the provisional
grid. That's when Menard decided to give Brayton another shot. He
pulled the other car out and Brayton took five laps.
"I told John you have to give me a chance to drive it," said the
always enthusiastic Brayton. "The last two laps I was hunting and
looking for any speed because I figured I needed a 234. I tried to
keep it as free as it could be."
Provisional Starting Line-up
Row 1
2 Scott Brayton 95 L/M/F 2:34.032 233.718
20 R Tony Stewart 95 L/M/F 2:34.440 233.100
70 Davy Jones 95 L/MI/G 2:34.585 232.882
Row 2
7 Eliseo Salazar 95 L/F/G 2:34.716 232.684
3 Eddie Cheever 95 L/M/F 2:35.319 231.781
91 Buddy Lazier 95 R/F/F 2:35.529 231.468
Row 3
21 Roberto Guerrero 95 R/F/G 2:35.593 231.373
8 Alessandro Zampedri 95 L/F/G 2:36.798 229.595
22 R Michel Jourdain, Jr. 95 L/F/G 2:36.945 229.380
Row 4
12 R Buzz Calkins 95 R/F/F 2:37.196 229.013
14 R Davey Hamilton 95 L/F/G 2:37.283 228.887
60 Mike Groff 95 R/F/G 2:37.409 228.704
Row 5
33 R Michele Alboreto 95 R/F/G 2:37.736 228.229
9 Stephan Gregoire 95 R/F/F 2:38.203 227.556
30 R Mark Dismore 95 L/M/F 2:38.409 227.260
Row 6
4 R Richie Hearn 95 R/F/G 2:38.926 226.521
64 R Johnny Unser 95 R/F/G 2:39.211 226.115
18 John Paul, Jr. 93 L/M/G 2:40.173 224.757
Row 7
45 Lyn St. James 94 L/F/G 2:40.289 224.594
27 R Jim Guthrie 93 L/M/F 2:41.875 222.394
5 Arie Luyendyk 95 R/F/F 2:34.248 233.390 (Disallowed)
1996 20 car field average 228.959
auto-moto.212vpoznanovic,
Približava se Velika nagrada Monaka... Ako nikada niste bili tamo i
ne znate kako izgledaju pripreme u Monte Karlu, evo prilike da makar
preko fotografija to doživite... Slike nisu numerisane redoslijedom
kojim su navedene u spisku, ali snaći ćete se vi nekako. :)
'96 MONACO VIDEO JOURNAL
Here at Gale Force and Atlas, we have captured some of the happenings
in Monaco before the 54th Grand Prix on Sunday. Walking around with
our Sony 8mm camera in hand, we shot pictures for those of you who are
avid fans, but were not able to attend this year. The picture quality
isn't "super", but you might be able to make out what is going on
around the circuit around lunch time each day.
Monday
* The weather in Monaco around lunch time was cool and cloudy. In
this capture, you can see clouds covering the hills above the
city. In between the harbor and buildings is pit lane.
* Team transports were begining to line up beside the harbor. Here's
a capture of a Benetton transport.
* You can see the tip of the Ferrari transport with the overcast sky
and blurred hills in this capture.
* The McLaren vehicles were also lined up. You may notice that the
decals on the sides of the vans and trucks were still absent of
cigarette sponsorship. Later in the day, teams were refiting the
transporters with the "normal" decals, as they would with the F1
cars.
* On Monday, pit lane was still devoid of any team presence, but
most of the support services were installed.
* Lots of public traffic lined the start/finish area. Traffic is
heavy around the circuit due to the construction associated with
the Grand Prix
* The Prince's Box is just above the starting grid. From here the
Royal Family will watch the start of the race and later present
the prizes.
* Here's a capture of one of the Renault support vehicles.
* These trailers contain the timing and computing hardware for
Formula One. They were located in front of the bay and next to pit
lane.
* City workers were climbing the trees that line pit lane in order
to remove all pine cones that might fall on an unsuspecting F1
driver during a pit stop.
* The TWR Arrows transport was also parked along side most of the
other teams. You may notice that neither the word "Footwork" nor
"Arrows" appears on trailer.
* Another shot of the TWR transport.
monday.zipauto-moto.213vpoznanovic,
'96 MONACO VIDEO JOURNAL
Tuesday
* Tuesday was certainly a beautiful day. We took this capture from
the same place as Monday. Can you tell the difference?
* The Benetton guys were out preparing and doing some odd jobs. The
crew were all laughing and seemed to be having fun.
* More of Benetton.
* Looking left on the K Grandstands in front of the harbor, you can
see what a beautiful day it was trackside.
* In this capture, we are looking right from the K grandstands. Just
beyond the "Marlboro" sign and in front of the pink building is
the Paddock. Most of our shots of team transports were taken in
the Paddock.
* Here's the Rascasse peeking out beyond the Marlboro sign.
* Here's a good shot in terms of where the majority of preparation
time by teams is spent.
* Ferrari were breaking out their tents. Because the pit garages are
so small, most the teams keep a main paddock near the Rascasse.
* Here's a Ligier transport.
* What's this??? Could it be the first car to see the light of day
in Monaco?
* Yes! The McLaren team were first to expose their cars to the
public during this Grand Prix week.
* Here's the Jordan transport. Jordan seems to have 2 totaly
different schemes: one for their Benson and Hedges crew (not
shown), and one for the Peugeot people.
* Well, the top team in F1 so far showed itself in full force today.
They were the first to occupy their garage space. Here's another
shot for the Williams fans.
tuesday.zipauto-moto.214tomislavr,
I VINCITORI A MONTECARLO
Edizione Pilota Monoposto
1929 "Williams" Bugatti
1930 Rene` Dreyfus Bugatti
1931 Louis Chiron Bugatti
1932 Tazio Nuvolari Alfa Romeo
1933 Achille Varzi Bugatti
1934 Guy Moll Alfa Romeo
1935 Luigi Fagioli Mercedes
1936 Rudi Caracciola Mercedes
1937 Manfred Von BrauchitscMercedes
1948 Nino Farina Maserati
1950 Juan Manuel Fangio Alfa Romeo
1952 Vittorio Marzotto Ferrari
1955 Maurice Trintignant Ferrari
1956 Stirling Moss Maserati
1957 Juan Manuel Fangio Maserati
1958 Maurice Trintignant Cooper Climax
1959 Jack Brabham Cooper Climax
1960 Stirling Moss Lotus Climax
1961 Stirling Moss Lotus Climax
1962 Bruce McLaren Cooper Climax
1963 Graham Hill Brm
1964 Graham Hill Brm
1965 Graham Hill Brm
1966 Jackie Stewart Brm
1967 Dennis Hulme Brabham Repco
1968 Graham Hill Lotus Ford Cosworth
1969 Graham Hill Lotus Ford Cosworth
1970 Jochen Rindt Lotus Ford Cosworth
1971 Jackie Stewart Tyrrell Ford Cosworth
1972 Jean-Pierre Beltoise Brm
1973 Jackie Stewart Tyrrell Ford Cosworth
1974 Ronnie Peterson Lotus Ford Cosworth
1975 Niki Lauda Ferrari
1976 Niki Lauda Ferrari
1977 Jody Scheckter Wolf Ford Cosworth
1978 Patrick Depailler Tyrrell Ford Cosworth
1979 Jody Scheckter Ferrari
1980 Carlos Reutemann Williams Ford Cosworth
1981 Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari
1982 Riccardo Patrese Brabham Ford Cosworth
1983 Keke Rosberg Williams Ford Cpsworth
1984 Alain Prost McLaren Porsche
1985 Alain Prost McLaren Porsche
1986 Alain Prost McLaren Porsche
1987 Ayrton Senna Lotus Honda
1988 Alain Prost McLaren Honda
1989 Ayrton Senna McLaren Honda
1990 Ayrton Senna McLaren Honda
1991 Ayrton Senna McLaren Honda
1992 Ayrton Senna McLaren Honda
1993 Ayrton Senna McLaren Ford
1994 Michael Schumacher Benetton Ford
1995 Michael Schumacher Benetton Renault
Nadajmo se da će Schumacher zabeležiti pobedu i 1996-te ;)
auto-moto.215tomislavr,
Evo podataka iz prošle sezone, i podataka iz ove uključujući i
trku u San Marinu.
f1data.zipauto-moto.216obren,
> Nadajmo se da će Schumacher zabeležiti pobedu i 1996-te ;)
Nadajte se... ;)
P.S. Nego, nisam te baš najbolje razumeo - mislio si na trku u Monaku
ili na celu sezonu? ;>
auto-moto.218cdragan,
Formula 1: Monaco Grand Prix
2nd Free Practice
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Session Resume:
Weather: Sunny in parts
Time Event
Sorry no real report for this session as we all went to a
party at the Rascasse :-))))))
Major memories:
- Schumacher and Coulthard both spinning next to the restaurant
in the first session
- Diniz backing into the restaurant 2m from our table
- yes we have the video
- Both Footwork cars also trying to leap onto our table
- Fisichella taking off the front wheel against our barrier
Our photo's and video captures will be on the net soon
In general Schumacher had a bad second session, Hill was usually fastest
but Hakkinen went faster in the last 5 minutes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 23.762s 2 1m 24.604s
2 D.Hill Williams 1m 23.801s 1 1m 24.524s
3 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 23.850s 10 1m 25.963s
4 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 23.976s 6 1m 25.455s
5 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 24.160s 5 1m 24.842s
6 O.Panis Ligier 1m 24.167s 20 1m 28.003s
7 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 24.257s 18 1m 27.235s
8 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 24.270s 12 1m 26.220s
9 G.Berger Benetton 1m 24.285s 9 1m 25.773s
10 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 24.585s 3 1m 24.767s
11 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 24.757s 4 1m 24.792s
12 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 25.112s 8 1m 25.770s
13 U.Katayma Tyrrell 1m 25.322s 13 1m 26.494s
14 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 25.326s 16 1m 26.958s
15 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 25.441s 17 1m 26.992s
16 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 25.615s 11 1m 26.048s
17 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 25.688s 7 1m 25.753s
18 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 25.936s 14 1m 26.670s
19 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 26.143s 15 1m 26.738s
20 A.Montermini Forti 1m 27.843s 19 1m 27.843s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 28.451s 21 1m 28.451s
22 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 28.512s 22 1m 31.050s
---- 107% ----
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GALE FORCE F1 - the fastest results service on the Internet.
auto-moto.219tomislavr,
Rezultati prvog nezvaničnog treninga:
Pos Driver Team Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 24.524s
2 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 24.604s
3 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 24.767s
4 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 24.792s
5 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 24.842s
6 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 25.455s
7 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 25.753s
8 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 25.770s
9 G.Berger Benetton 1m 25.773s
10 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 25.963s
11 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 26.048s
12 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 26.220s
13 U.Katayma Tyrrell 1m 26.494s
14 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 26.670s
15 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 26.738s
16 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 26.958s
17 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 26.992s
18 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 27.235s
19 A.Montermini Forti 1m 27.843s
20 O.Panis Ligier 1m 28.003s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 28.451s
---- 107% ---- 1m 30.440s
22 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 31.050s
auto-moto.220tomislavr,
Rezultati drugog nezvaničnog treninga:
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 23.762s 2 1m 24.604s
2 D.Hill Williams 1m 23.801s 1 1m 24.524s
3 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 23.850s 10 1m 25.963s
4 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 23.976s 6 1m 25.455s
5 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 24.160s 5 1m 24.842s
6 O.Panis Ligier 1m 24.167s 20 1m 28.003s
7 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 24.257s 18 1m 27.235s
8 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 24.270s 12 1m 26.220s
9 G.Berger Benetton 1m 24.285s 9 1m 25.773s
10 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 24.585s 3 1m 24.767s
11 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 24.757s 4 1m 24.792s
12 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 25.112s 8 1m 25.770s
13 U.Katayma Tyrrell 1m 25.322s 13 1m 26.494s
14 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 25.326s 16 1m 26.958s
15 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 25.441s 17 1m 26.992s
16 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 25.615s 11 1m 26.048s
17 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 25.688s 7 1m 25.753s
18 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 25.936s 14 1m 26.670s
19 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 26.143s 15 1m 26.738s
20 A.Montermini Forti 1m 27.843s 19 1m 27.843s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 28.451s 21 1m 28.451s
22 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 28.512s 22 1m 31.050s
auto-moto.224vpoznanovic,
Auto trke su juče odnijele još jedan ljudski život... :((
INDY 500 POLESITTER BRAYTON DIES AFTER CRASH IN PRACTICE
INDIANAPOLIS -- Scott Brayton, scheduled to start the Indianapolis 500
on the pole for the second straight year, died Friday after a tire
went flat, causing him to crash into a retaining wall during a
practice session.
Brayton, 37, the most experienced driver at the track this year,
crashed at 12:17 local time and died 37 minutes later at Methodist
hospital, said track spokesman Bob Walters. He was unconscious when
pulled from the wreck by rescue workers, placed on a stretcher and
taken by ambulance to the hospital.
"Scotty just loved this place. He loved running fast here, he loved
the competition," said John Menard, owner of Brayton's car. "He was so
proud he had the pole. He worked for that pole. It reminds you this is
a very serious business we're involved in. Scotty had a perfect race
car, a perfect day, and a perfect track, and yet it reached out and
bit him."
Brayton's right rear tire deflated rapidly as his 1995 Lola-Menard
headed into turn two, sending his racer into a half-spin before
slamming into the outside retaining wall. Brayton's crew indicated he
was going 235 mph when he hit the wall.
The car continued sliding along the wall for 360 feet with parts
flying off. It then did a quarter-spin and traveled another 600 feet
before coming to a stop in the back straightaway.
"I don't know how to take it," said Brayton's former car owner, Dick
Simon. "I believe in God very much. We're dealing in a business where
risk takes place, but death's not a part of it. It's just a freak
accident."
Brayton was the 40th Indy driver to die during practice, qualifying or
during the race, and the first since Jovy Marcelo was killed during
practice in 1992. In all, 66 people have died at the track.
"His death was due to injuries sustained in an accident," Walters said
at a news conference. "The speedway delayed the announcement of
Scott's death until his family members could be notified."
Brayton, from Coldwater, Mich., was driving one of the Team Menard
backup cars, not the year-old Lola-Menard in which he won the pole
last Saturday with a four-lap average of 233.718 mph.
Brayton's fastest lap Friday was 230.126, but that came about an hour
before the crash. His last lap before he crashed going into turn two
was 228.606.
A veteran of 148 Indy car races, Brayton was the most experienced
racer at this year's event and had qualified for his 15th Indy 500.
His best finish at Indy was sixth in 1989 and 1993.
The crash was the third of the month at Indy. Johnny Parsons and
rookie Scott Harrington walked away from earlier accidents.
The Indy 500 is competing this year with the new U.S. 500, which will
also be run on May 26. The U.S. 500 in Brooklyn, Mich., attracted most
of the top drivers who would have been at Indianapolis. The split
occurred after speedway president Tony George started the Indy Racing
League and reserved up to 25 of the 33 starting spots in the Indy 500
for regulars of the new circuit.
Most of the top drivers are members of the Championship Auto Racing
Team circuit and not George's new organization. Brayton, who hadn't
had a full-time ride on the CART circuit since 1992, was one of the
beneficiaries of the IRL. He had finished 15th and 18th in the
league's first two races.
Brayton is survived by wife Becky, 2-year-old daughter Carly, and
parents Lee and Jean Brayton. Lee Brayton drove Indy cars but never
drove in the Indy 500.
auto-moto.225vpoznanovic,
Statistical look at Scott Brayton's career
Personal
Born: Feb. 20, 1959; Coldwater, Mich. (son of Indy racer Lee
Brayton)
Died: May 17, 1996; Indianapolis
Residence: Coldwater, Mich.
Wife: Rebecca
Child: Carly (2 1/2 years)
Year Starts Best Finish Earnings
1981 11 7th in Michigan 500 $ 88,359
1982 5 11th in Michigan 500 $ 28,883
1983 6 9th in Indianapolis 500 $ 89,933
1984 13 6th in Pocono 500 $170,209
1985 10 6th in Portland 200 $228,112
1986 5 13 in Michigan 500 $129,247
1987 5 5th in Portland 200 $194,145
1988 12 9th in Portland 200 $293,125
1989 14 6th in Indianapolis 500 $451,317
1990 16 7th in Indianapolis 500 $592,442
1991 17 three 6th place finishes $722,234
(Australia, Milwaukee, Toronto)
1992 16 3rd in Milwaukee $606,590
1993 16 three 6th place finishes $729,003
(Indianapolis, Milwaukee, New Hampshire)
1994 1 23rd at Indianapolis $177,112
1995 1 17th at Indianapolis $306,503
(Indy 500 pole sitter)
1996 2 15th at Walt Disney World 200 $173,000
(Indy 500 pole sitter)
Career 150 3rd at Milwaukee 1992 $4,980,214
Indy pole 1995, 1996
(IndyCar circuit from 1981 through 1995, IRL circuit in 1996)
auto-moto.226vpoznanovic,
DEATHS AT INDIANAPOLIS MOTOR SPEEDWAY
The 66 people, including 40 drivers, 14 mechanics, two track workers
and nine spectators and one bystander outside the track, who have been
killed or fatally injured at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
(including pre-500 races of 1909-10):
Drivers in Race (15)
1909--William Borque, Springfield, Mass.
1919--Louis LeCocq, France, and Arthur Thurman, Washington
1929--Bill Spence, Los Angeles
1933--Mark Billman, Indianapolis, and Lester Spangler, Los Angeles.
1935--Clay Weatherly, Cincinnati
1939--Floyd Roberts, Van Nuys, Calif.
1947--Shorty Cantlon, Detroit
1953--Carl Scarborough, Clarkston, Mich.
1955--Bill Vukovich Sr., Fresno, Calif.
1958--Pat O'Connor, North Vernon, Ind.
1964--Eddie Sachs, Detroit, and Dave MacDonald, El Monte, Calif.
1973--Swede Savage, Santa Ana, Calif.
Drivers in Practice or Qualifications (25)
1910--Tommy Kincaid, Indianapolis
1913--Harry Martin, Indianapolis
1926--Herbert Jones, Indianapolis
1931--Joe Caccia, Bryn Mawr, Pa.
1932--Milton Jones, Cleveland
1933--William Denver, Audubon, Pa.
1934--Pete Kreis, Knoxville, Tenn.
1935--Johnny Hannon, Norristown, Pa., and Stubby Stubblefield, Los Angeles
1940--George Bailey, Indianapolis.
1948--Ralph Hepburn, Van Nuys, Calif.
1949--George Metzler, Indianapolis
1953--Chet Miller, Glendale, Calif.
1955--Manuel Ayulo, Burbank, Calif.
1957--Keith Andrews, Colorado Springs
1959--Jerry Unser, Lakewood, Calif., and Bob Cortner, Redlands, Calif.
1961--Tony Bettenhausen Sr., Tinley Park, Ill.
1966--Chuck Rodee, Indianapolis
1968--Mike Spence, Maidenhead, England
1972--Jim Malloy, Denver
1973--Art Pollard, Medford, Ore.
1982--Gordon Smiley, Grapevine, Texas
1992--Jovy Marcelo, Philippines
1996--Scott Brayton, Coldwater, Mich.
Riding Mechanics in Race (7)
1909--Harry Holcomb, Springfield, Mass., and Claude Kellum, Indianapolis
1911--Sam Dickson
1919--Robert Bandini, Los Angeles, and Nicholas Mollinard, France
1930--Paul Marshall, Indianapolis
1933--G.L. Gordon, Lafayette, Ind.
Mechanics in Practice (7)
1931--Clarence Grover, Haverford, Pa.
1932--Harry Cox, Indianapolis
1933--Bob Hurst, Indianapolis
1934--Robert Hahn, Chino, Calif.
1935--Leo Whitaker, Los Angeles
1937--Albert Opalko, Gary, Ind.
1939--Lawson Harris
Track Personnel in Race (2)
1961--John Masariu, Danville, Ind.
1973--Armando Teran, Santa Monica, Calif.
Spectators at Race (9)
1909--Homer Joliff, Franklin, Ind., and James West, Indianapolis
1923--Bert Shoup, Lafayette, Ind.
1937--George Warford, Indianapolis, and Otto Rhode, Toledo, Ohio
1938--Everett Spence, Terre Haute, Ind.
1960--Fred Linder, Indianapolis, and William Craig, Zionsville, Ind.
1987--Lyle Kurtenbach, Rothschild, Wis.
Bystander Outside Track (1)
(Struck by wheel over fence)
1931--Wilbur Brink, Indianapolis
auto-moto.227tomislavr,
Posle kvalifikacija...
1. Schumacher
2. Hill
3. Alesi
4. Berger
5. Coulthard
6. Barrichello
7. Irvine
8. Hakkinen
9. Frentzen
10. Villeneuve
Zna se ko je majstor! ;)
auto-moto.228cdragan,
Formula 1: Monaco Grand Prix
Qualifying
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Session Resume:
Weather: Cloudy, 19 deg C
Time Event
0:16 Current Positions: (1) Berger, (2) Alesi, (3) Villen, (4) Hill,
0:16 1m 22.150s - D.Coulthard
0:16 Current Positions: (1) Coulth, (2) Berger, (3) Alesi, (4) Villen, (5)
Hill,
0:17 1m 21.350s - M.Schumacher
0:17 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Coulth, (3) Berger, (4) Alesi, (5)
Villen, (6) Hill
0:18 1m 20.910s - M.Schumacher
0:19 1m 22.250s - E.Irvine
0:19 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Coulth, (3) Irvine, (4) Berger,
(5) Alesi, (6) Villen
0:19 1m 22.250s - M.Hakkinen
0:19 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Coulth, (3) Irvine, (4) Hakkin,
(5) Berger, (6) Alesi
0:20 1m 22.360s - O.Panis
0:20 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Coulth, (3) Irvine, (4) Hakkin,
(5) Panis, (6) Berger
0:22 Lamy spins and hits wall out of casino
0:22 1m 21.670s - D.Hill
0:22 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Coulth, (4) Irvine, (5)
Hakkin, (6) Panis
0:23 Bado spins and hits Rascasse
0:25 1m 21.900s - J.Alesi
0:25 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Alesi, (4) Coulth, (5)
Irvine, (6) Hakkin
0:25 1m 21.930s - H.Frentzen
0:25 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Alesi, (4) Frentz, (5)
Coulth, (6) Irvine
0:26 1m 22.040s - R.Barrichello
0:26 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Alesi, (4) Frentz, (5)
Barric, (6) Coulth
0:26 1m 21.350s - J.Alesi
0:26 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Alesi, (3) Hill, (4) Frentz, (5)
Barric, (6) Coulth
0:30 1m 21.850s - G.Berger
0:30 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Alesi, (3) Hill, (4) Berger, (5)
Frentz, (6) Barric
0:32 1m 21.460s - D.Coulthard
0:32 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Alesi, (3) Coulth, (4) Hill, (5)
Berger, (6) Frentz
0:33 Schumacher has only done 4 laps!!
0:37 1m 21.500s - R.Barrichello
0:37 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Alesi, (3) Coulth, (4) Barric, (5)
Hill, (6) Berger
0:41 Most drivers sitting in pits
0:41 Hill on track
0:42 Hakk 9th, Vill 14th
0:44 1m 21.430s - D.Hill
0:44 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Alesi, (3) Hill, (4) Coulth, (5)
Barric, (6) Berger
0:45 1m 22.010s - J.Villeneuve
0:45 Vill 8th
0:46 Williams shoot themselves in the foot - as Hill comes round to
complete a fast lap he catches up to Villeneuve just about to
start a fast lap. Hill backs off to give himself space and
therefore loses the next fast lap. The lap after is his last
of the 12 qualifying laps allowed.
0:47 1m 22.490s - J.Villeneuve
0:47 1m 20.870s - D.Hill
0:47 Against all odds Hill gets pole - he was 0.3s down at the last split
time. He finishes 0.04s faster than Schumacher - but is now out of
laps
0:47 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Schuma, (3) Alesi, (4) Coulth, (5)
Barric, (6) Berger
0:48 1m 21.540s - E.Irvine
0:48 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Schuma, (3) Alesi, (4) Coulth, (5)
Barric, (6) Irvine
0:48 Schumacher has 5 laps left
0:49 Hakk in 10th
0:51 Vill out of laps in 9th
0:52 Alesi on track
0:55 1m 21.120s - J.Alesi
0:55 Schumacher on track
0:56 1m 20.920s - J.Alesi
0:57 1m 20.360s - M.Schumacher
0:57 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Alesi, (4) Coulth, (5)
Barric, (6) Irvine
0:58 1m 21.070s - G.Berger
0:58 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Alesi, (4) Berger, (5)
Coulth, (6) Barric
0:58 1m 20.370s - M.Schumacher
1: 0 Berger catches Schumacher into the chicane - Schmacher pulls over
but Berger spins and enters the chicane section going backwards!!
Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 20.356s 3 1m 22.074s 11 1m 24.757s
2 D.Hill Williams 1m 20.866s 1 1m 21.495s 2 1m 23.801s
3 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 20.918s 6 1m 22.330s 5 1m 24.160s
4 G.Berger Benetton 1m 21.067s 7 1m 22.613s 9 1m 24.285s
5 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 21.460s 2 1m 22.024s 3 1m 23.850s
6 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 21.504s 8 1m 22.635s 4 1m 23.976s
7 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 21.542s 10 1m 22.649s 17 1m 25.688s
8 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 21.688s 4 1m 22.080s 1 1m 23.762s
9 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 21.929s 5 1m 22.327s 10 1m 24.585s
10 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 21.963s 9 1m 22.643s 7 1m 24.257s
11 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 22.235s 14 1m 22.818s 16 1m 25.615s
12 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 22.327s 16 1m 23.050s 12 1m 25.112s
13 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 22.346s 15 1m 22.936s 19 1m 26.143s
14 O.Panis Ligier 1m 22.358s 13 1m 22.810s 6 1m 24.167s
15 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 22.460s 12 1m 22.660s 13 1m 25.322s
16 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 22.519s 11 1m 22.657s 8 1m 24.270s
17 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 22.682s 19 1m 24.073s 18 1m 25.936s
18 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 22.684s 17 1m 23.500s 14 1m 25.326s
19 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 23.350s 18 1m 24.030s 15 1m 25.441s
20 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 24.976s 21 1m 25.595s 22 1m 28.512s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 25.059s 22 1m 25.738s 21 1m 28.451s
22 A.Montermini Forti 1m 25.393s 20 1m 25.437s 20 1m 27.843s
---- 107% ---- 1m 25.980s
=============================================================================
The Grid
Qualify
Pos Driver Team Pos Lap Time To 1st Gap %
1st row
1 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1 1m 20.356s 0.000s 100.00%
2 D.Hill Williams 2 1m 20.866s 0.510s 0.510s 100.63%
2nd row
3 J.Alesi Benetton 3 1m 20.918s 0.562s 0.052s 100.69%
4 G.Berger Benetton 4 1m 21.067s 0.711s 0.149s 100.88%
3th row
5 D.Coulthard McLaren 5 1m 21.460s 1.104s 0.393s 101.37%
6 R.Barrichello Jordan 6 1m 21.504s 1.148s 0.044s 101.42%
4th row
7 E.Irvine Ferrari 7 1m 21.542s 1.186s 0.038s 101.47%
8 M.Hakkinen McLaren 8 1m 21.688s 1.332s 0.146s 101.65%
5th row
9 H.Frentzen Sauber 9 1m 21.929s 1.573s 0.241s 101.95%
10 J.Villeneuve Williams 10 1m 21.963s 1.607s 0.034s 101.99%
6th row
11 M.Salo Tyrrell 11 1m 22.235s 1.879s 0.272s 102.33%
12 J.Verstappen Footwork 12 1m 22.327s 1.971s 0.092s 102.45%
7th row
13 J.Herbert Sauber 13 1m 22.346s 1.990s 0.019s 102.47%
14 O.Panis Ligier 14 1m 22.358s 2.002s 0.012s 102.49%
8th row
15 U.Katayama Tyrrell 15 1m 22.460s 2.104s 0.102s 102.61%
16 M.Brundle Jordan 16 1m 22.519s 2.163s 0.059s 102.69%
9th row
17 P.Diniz Ligier 17 1m 22.682s 2.326s 0.163s 102.89%
18 G.Fisichella Minardi 18 1m 22.684s 2.328s 0.002s 102.89%
10th row
19 P.Lamy Minardi 19 1m 23.350s 2.994s 0.666s 103.72%
20 R.Rosset Footwork 20 1m 24.976s 4.620s 1.626s 105.74%
11th row
21 L.Badoer Forti 21 1m 25.059s 4.703s 0.083s 105.85%
22 A.Montermini Forti 22 1m 25.393s 5.037s 0.334s 106.26%
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auto-moto.229wiper,
Trka u Monaku je pokazala zasto formula traje
toliko dugo i nikad nije dosadna.
1.Panis Lizije
2.Kulhard Meklaren
3.Herbert Zauber
4.Frencen Zauber
Zao mi Alesia dobro je vozio.
Jel zna neko sta je bilo na kraju sa Hakinenom i Irvinom
jesu pale batine.Prvi je bio nesto mnogo ljut na ovog drugog
auto-moto.230obren,
Wow! :) Kakva trka...
Ja kao navijac Ligier-a nisam mogao da zamislim lepsi ishod, a i
bilo je brate zanimljivo... :)
Honda LE, Honda Le, Honde leeee! ;)
auto-moto.231tomislavr,
Neverovatno ko sve pobeđuje ove Grand Prix-ove ;)
Monte Karlo jo završilo samo četiri vozača:
1. Panis - Ligier Mugen
2. Coulthard - McLaren Mercedes
3. Herbert - Sauber Ford
4. Frentzen - Sauber Ford
a u plasmanu su i:
5. Salo - Tyrell Yamaha
6. Hakkinen - McLaren Mercedes
Šumaher pogodio zid u prvom krugu, Hilu "eksplodirao" bolid,
Alezi imao kvar, ostali što spin, što pogađanje ograde, i eto
šta se dogodi.
Nekoliko krugova pred kraj se Irvine okrenuo na stazi i
napravio "vozić" (na njega su naleteli Hakkinen i Salo). Posle
incidenta Mika je žustro prišao Irvajnu da "popričaju" ali
režiser to nije prikazao (šteta ;).
Mene lično, kao navijača Mercedesa, je Coulthard razočarao jer
nije iskoristio super šansu da pobedi u Monte Karlu :(. Panis
sjajno vozio...
auto-moto.232vpoznanovic,
>> Ma znao sam, nego nigde nema rezultata trka...
Evo ti i rezultata iz Nurburgringa, ako ih već nisi nabavio... nikako da
se sjetim da ih pošaljem...
ITC: Nurburgring results
---------------Top 10 qualifying / Starting grid------------------------
Pos. Driver Team - Car Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Joerg van Ommen/D UPS Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:37.720
2 Alessandro Nannini/I Alfa Corse Martini-Alfa 155 V6 Ti 1:37.817
3 Dario Franchitti/GB D2 Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:37.945
4 J.J. Lehto/FIN Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:38.221
5 Bernd Schneider/D D2 Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:38.326
6 Giancarlo Fisichella/I Alfa Corse TV Spielf.Alfa 155 V6 Ti1:38.416
7 Christian Danner/D Alfa Corse TV Spielf.Alfa 155 V6 Ti1:38.681
8 Manuel Reuter/D Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:38.934
9 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:39.280
10 Jan Magnussen/DK Warsteiner AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:39.338
11 Oliver Gavin/GB Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:38.474
12 Nicola Larini/I Alfa Corse Martini-Alfa 155 V6 Ti 1:38.660
13 Kurt Thiim/DK UPS Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:38.788
14 Gabriele Tarquini/I Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti1:39.056
15 Uwe Alzen/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:39.151
16 Alexander Wurz/A Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:39.220
17 Jason Watt/DK Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti1:39.226
18 Stefano Modena/I Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti1:39.282
19 Alexander Grau/D Warsteiner AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:39.431
20 Michael Bartels/D Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti1:39.465
21 Klaus Ludwig/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:39.589
22 Yannick Dalmas/F Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:39.723
23 Bernd Maylander/D Team Persson AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:39:756
24 Gianni Giudici/I Giudici Racing-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti1:43.439
25 Ellen Lohr/D Team Persson AMG-Mercedes C-Class 1:44.008
-----------------------------RESULTS RACE 1-----------------------------
Pos. Driver Team - Car Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Joerg van Ommen/D UPS Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 37:12.332
2 Dario Franchitti/GB D2 Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class + 2.317
3 Manuel Reuter/D Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 12.500
4 Bernd Schneider/D D2 Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 13.580
5 J.J. Lehto/FIN Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 15.220
6 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 16.335
7 Jan Magnussen/DK Warsteiner AMG-Mercedes C-Class 16.458
8 Kurt Thiim/DK UPS Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 17.385
9 Christian Danner/D Alfa Corse TV Spielf.Alfa 155 V6 Ti 24.485
10 Gabriele Tarquini/I Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 30.363
11 Michael Bartels/D Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 33.980
12 Alexander Wurz/A Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 34.981
13 Jason Watt/DK Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 T 40.753
14 Oliver Gavin/GB Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 43.757
15 Ellen Lohr/D Team Persson AMG-Mercedes C-Class 46.000
16 Bernd Maylander/D Team Persson AMG-Mercedes C-Class 46.161
17 Stefano Modena/I Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 59.296
18 Uwe Alzen/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 1:34.174
Not classified:
Yannick Dalmas/F Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 -12 laps
Nicola Larini/I Alfa Corse Martini-Alfa 155 V6 Ti 22
Alexander Grau/D Warsteiner AMG-Mercedes C-Class 22
Klaus Ludwig/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 22
Gianni Giudici/I Giudici Racing-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 22
FL: Dario Frachitti 1:39.682 (=164.54 kph)
-----------------------------RESULTS RACE 2-----------------------------
Pos. Driver Team - Car Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Manuel Reuter/D Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 37:30.118
2 J.J. Lehto/FIN Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 + 2.257
3 Jan Magnussen/DK Warsteiner AMG-Mercedes C-Class 7.099
4 Uwe Alzen/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 15.023
5 Gabriele Tarquini/I Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 15.256
6 Bernd Schneider/D D2 Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 15.823
7 Nicola Larini/I Alfa Corse Martini-Alfa 155 V6 Ti 16.168
8 Dario Franchitti/GB D2 Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 19.740
9 Jason Watt/DK Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 27.398
10 Christian Danner/D Alfa Corse TV Spielf.Alfa 155 V6 Ti 32.485
11 Ellen Lohr/D Team Persson AMG-Mercedes C-Class 43.504
12 Kurt Thiim/DK UPS Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class -2 laps
13 Joerg van Ommen/D UPS Team AMG-Mercedes C-Class 5
14 Hans-Joachim Stuck/D Rosberg-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 6
Not classified:
Michael Bartels/D Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 13
Bernd Maylander/D Team Persson AMG-Mercedes C-Class 14
Alexander Wurz/A Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 14
Oliver Gavin/GB Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 19
Klaus Ludwig/D Zakspeed-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 19
Stefano Modena/I Alfa Corse JAS-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 22
Yannick Dalmas/F Joest-Opel Calibra V6 4x4 22
Alexander Grau/D Warsteiner AMG-Mercedes C-Class 22
Gianni Giudici/I Giudici Racing-Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti 22
FL: Nicola Larini 1:40.052 (=163.93 kph)
auto-moto.233djcorto,
> Zna se ko je majstor! ;)
Majstor ne zna da se u krrivini skrece ;)
Danas je bila jedna od najludjih trka otkad gledam F1. Ne zna da
li se ikada desilo da su trku zavrsila cetiri vozaca ?!?!?
auto-moto.234chitan,
Ovo ce najverovatnije biti najludja trka ove sezone. Nikad mi na pamet ne bi
palo da se trka moze ovako zavrsiti.
Moj "miljenik" je Alesi, ali ...
Panis me je iznenadio i odusevio.
Najbolji trenutak trke - ispadanje Hila.
Primetio sam da je Panis posle obilazenja Irvajna, dva kruga vozio sa
vremenima ispod 1:27, da bi sledeci vozio 1:37:XX, a vec u sledecem krugu
1:26:XX. Da li sam nesto propustio?
auto-moto.235giovanni,
Ę? Jel zna neko sta je bilo na kraju sa Hakinenom i Irvinom
Ę? jesu pale batine.Prvi je bio nesto mnogo ljut na ovog drugog
Znajući Irvajnovu narav svašta je moguće. :) A režiser prenosa je
stvarno skot što nije pustio malo duže kadar koji je snimala ona kamera. :(
auto-moto.236tomislavr,
> > Zna se ko je majstor! ;)
> Majstor ne zna da se u krivini skrece ;)
Jebiga, i najboljima se to desava... B) Nema veze, vazno je da
Hil nije pobedio. Da je on pobedio bio bi to kraj ove sezone
posle sest trka :(
auto-moto.237tomislavr,
> Primetio sam da je Panis posle obilazenja Irvajna, dva kruga
> vozio sa vremenima ispod 1:27, da bi sledeci vozio 1:37:XX, a
Panis je imao spin, samo sto "glupan" i "tupan" to nisu
primetili. Covek pored njih mora da slusa ljude sa Eurosporta
"iz pozadine" ako hoce da zna sta se desava. Recimo: pocinju
reklame... zavrsavaju se reklame, glupan kaze "nista se nije
promenilo", a u pozadini komentator Eurosporta opisuje kako je
Hil izleteo... ;)
auto-moto.238tomislavr,
Da li je neko primetio da je Coulthard imao kacigu identicnu
Schumacher-ovoj? Zna li neko zasto?
auto-moto.239boshko,
to i jeste sumaherova kaciga. navodno je pozajmio od njega jer se
njegova maglila a sumaherova ne jer je savrseniji model.
auto-moto.240crncic,
>> Panis me je iznenadio i odusevio.
>> Najbolji trenutak trke - ispadanje Hila.
Najbolji trenutak ispadanje čumahera ;)
Koliko sam video, on je na onoj krivini prikočio i naravno, na onom
mokrom, proklizao do leve ivice koja mu je bila samo na metar...
auto-moto.241dusko,
>> > Zna se ko je majstor! ;)
>> Majstor ne zna da se u krivini skrece ;)
>
> Jebiga, i najboljima se to desava... B) Nema veze, vazno je da
Da, ali u te najbolje sigurno ne spada Šumaher ;>
Šalu na stranu, momak jeste talentovan i to cenim, ali ga ne gotivim jer
je pi*da. To je (opet) pokazao i sad u Monte Karlu. U toku kvalifikacija
za trku, kada je odvezao svoj poslednji (12.) krug, umesto da lepo obiđe
krug i vrati se u boks čovek se lepo vozikao po stazi i mahao gledaocima
ne obazirući se na retrovirzor. U jednom trenutku Alezi, koji je vozio
svoj poslednji krug i na oba prolazna vremena bio brži od Nemca, stigao
ga je pred sam ulazak u šikanu kod bazena, i u poslednjem trenutku uspeo
da izađe sa staze u tzv. escape route da se ne bi zakucao u Šumahera.
Pre početka trke komentatori rekoše da se ovaj posle izvinuo Aleziju,
al' da može da se desi da Nemac popije i neku kaznu zbog svesnog
ugrožavanja bezbednosti na stazi.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.242dusko,
> Panis je imao spin, samo sto "glupan" i "tupan" to nisu
> primetili. Covek pored njih mora da slusa ljude sa Eurosporta
> "iz pozadine" ako hoce da zna sta se desava.
Na svu sreću imam Eurosport, al' sam povremeno prebacivao na 3K da čujem
"dream team" ;), i ne mogu da se otmem utisku da su (bar ono što sam ja
čuo) trku prenosili k'o da im je neko pobio pola familije pre trke, zbog
Šumijevog peglanja bankina po Monte Karlu ;))
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.243dusko,
> Da li je neko primetio da je Coulthard imao kacigu identicnu
> Schumacher-ovoj? Zna li neko zasto?
U intervju posle trke je rekao da se na probnoj seansi sat vremena pre
trke vizir na njegovoj kacigi dva puta zamaglio bez nekog razloga, pa
je onda od svog dobrog prijatelja Šumahera pozajmio njegovu rezervnu
kacigu. Pre starta dok je sedeo u bolidu mehaničari su preko reklama na
kacigi lepili izolir trake.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.244sale.car,
!?! Koliko sam video, on je na onoj krivini prikocio i naravno,
!?! na onom mokrom, proklizao do leve ivice koja mu je bila samo
!?! na metar...
Blokirao mu se tocak pre skretanja i onda ga je zaneo i sjebao mu taj
isti tocak...
Cya
auto-moto.245giovanni,
Ę? Danas je bila jedna od najludjih trka otkad gledam F1. Ne zna da
Ę? li se ikada desilo da su trku zavrsila cetiri vozaca ?!?!?
Jeste i to baš u Monaku, pre tridesetak godina. :)
auto-moto.246chitan,
1. Pravila F1 poznajem minimalno!
2. U trenutku dok je Panis napadao Irvajna u borbi za drugo mesto (cini mi se
u 35-om krugu) sa strane je pokazana plava zastava.
a) Da li je ona pokazana Irvajnu?
b) Ako je pokazana Irvajnu, zasto?
ps. Mrzim Hila!
auto-moto.247ljubisha,
>ne obazirući se na retrovirzor. U jednom trenutku Alezi, koji je vozio
>svoj poslednji krug i na oba prolazna vremena bio brži od Nemca, stigao
>ga je pred sam ulazak u šikanu kod bazena, i u poslednjem trenutku uspeo
>da izađe sa staze u tzv. escape route da se ne bi zakucao u Šumahera.
Da to ipak nije bio Berger koji je čak (kažu ovi sa 3K) u tom mo-
mentu imao mogućnost da dostigne Šumaherovo vreme?
auto-moto.248ljubisha,
>primetili. Covek pored njih mora da slusa ljude sa Eurosporta
>"iz pozadine" ako hoce da zna sta se desava. Recimo: pocinju
Elem, ko nema satelitsku a može da hvata više lokalnih stanica, pre-
nose može da gleda i na TV Pančevo (za frekveciju mogu da se raspitam).
auto-moto.249giovanni,
Ę? ne obazirući se na retrovirzor. U jednom trenutku Alezi, koji je vozio
Ę? svoj poslednji krug i na oba prolazna vremena bio brži od Nemca, stigao
Ę? ga je pred sam ulazak u šikanu kod bazena, i u poslednjem trenutku uspeo
Ę? da izađe sa staze u tzv. escape route da se ne bi zakucao u Šumahera.
Nije to bio Alezi već Berger. Ono jeste, čovek se baš zaleteo u tom
zadnjem krugu i moguće je da bi izborio neku bolju startnu poziciju
možda u prva tri) ali se, izgleda, malo uspaničio. Nije on uspeo da
izađe sa staze nego je nekontrolisano izleteo sa staze i to zadnjim
krajem bolida. Srećom po njega na tom mestu je šikana znatno proširena
posle onoga što se Vendlingeru desilo pre dve godine.
auto-moto.250kcurcic,
> Blokirao mu se tocak pre skretanja i onda ga je zaneo i sjebao mu taj
> isti tocak...
Posle trke je izjavio da nije bilo nikakvih mehaničkih
problema već da je 'peglanje bankine', kako je to slikovito neko
opisao ovde, njegova greška. Pri tom se i izvinio navijačima
Ferarija.
auto-moto.251kcurcic,
> a) Da li je ona pokazana Irvajnu?
Koliko ja znam, da.
> b) Ako je pokazana Irvajnu, zasto?
Opet koliko ja znam, to je signal da se iza njega nalazi
brži vozač. Postoji gradacija: ako se maše zastavom, onda
je to upozorenje da propusti onog koji je trenutno iza njega. jer
je bolje plasiran. Ako je zastava stacionarna :) onda je to upozorenje.
Kad smo već tu, bilo bi plemenito da neko ko je siguran u
ove signale da njihova značenja.
> ps. Mrzim Hila!
Sjajno. Bez ove informacije nisam mogao da živim ;>
auto-moto.252crncic,
>> nose može da gleda i na TV Pančevo (za frekveciju mogu da se raspitam).
37. UHF - nisam znao da baca do Beograda...
auto-moto.253stevicm,
> Mene licno, kao navijaca Mercedesa, je Coulthard razocarao jer
> nije iskoristio super sansu da pobedi u Monte Karlu :(. Panis
Kulthard je na konferenciji posle trke rekao da je njegov auto
bio podesen za mokri stazu i da se posle susenja doticne lose
ponasao tj pati je od preupravljivosti, sto je razlog sto nije mogao
da stigne Panisa koji je odlicno vozio. Steta za Hila i Alezija!
auto-moto.254stevicm,
> Najbolji trenutak trke - ispadanje Hila.
> Primetio sam da je Panis posle obilazenja Irvajna, dva kruga vozio sa
> vremenima ispod 1:27, da bi sledeci vozio 1:37:XX, a vec u sledecem krugu
> 1:26:XX. Da li sam nesto propustio?
Hil je vozio odlicno i steta sto mu je motor eksplodirao! Pokazao je onom
ljigavom svabi da ume da vozi!
Panis se okrenuo, to se nije videlo u prenosu, pa je zato vozio sporije.
auto-moto.255space.ace,
--> ne obazirući se na retrovirzor. U jednom trenutku Alezi, koji je
--> vozio svoj poslednji krug i na oba prolazna vremena bio brži od
--> Nemca, stigao ga je pred sam ulazak u šikanu kod bazena, i u
Nije bio Alesi nego Berger! I Schu nije baš mahao gledaocima nego je
došlo do zabune među njima dvojicom ko će na koju stranu. Berger je
krenuo na jednu, a som Schu na istu. Kočenjem je Berger izbegao sudar,
ali od pol pozicije nije ostalo ništa.
Nije da branim ono ##$%# Schu-a, ali zna se šta je bilo.
p.s. Kako se priča po EuroSportu izgleda da će Schu da popije malo veću kaznu
zbog toga.
Možda mu oduzmu i dozvolu, ko zna ;>>>> ?
auto-moto.256space.ace,
--> !?! Koliko sam video, on je na onoj krivini prikocio i naravno,
--> Blokirao mu se tocak pre skretanja i onda ga je zaneo i sjebao mu
--> taj isti tocak...
Reklo bi se da mu je proklizao zadnji kraj, i on je pokušao da ga ispravi
okrećući prednje točkove na levu stranu. Pošto je prebrzo ušao u krivinu
nije stigao da vrati točkove, i WHAM!! pogodio je bankinu! Tako mu i
treba, jer ne da leba!
auto-moto.257dusko,
> možda u prva tri) ali se, izgleda, malo uspaničio. Nije on
> uspeo da izađe sa staze nego je nekontrolisano izleteo sa staze
> i to zadnjim krajem bolida.
Biće da ne govorimo o istom događaju, Benetton koji sam ja video da zbog
švabe izlazi sa staze izašao je regularno kljunom napred, a Edwards &
Watson lepo rekoše da se izvinuo Aleziju!?
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.258dusko,
> Blokirao mu se tocak pre skretanja i onda ga je zaneo i sjebao
> mu taj isti tocak...
Fali mu ABS?
Pa, sa ABS-om bi svaki vozač GSP-a u kokpitu Ferrarija oduvao Šumaherovu
slavu i rejting posle deve trke ;>
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.259obren,
> Kad smo već tu, bilo bi plemenito da neko ko je siguran u
> ove signale da njihova značenja.
Plava zastava bi trebalo da uvek znači OBAVEZU propuštanja (zato su
kažnjeni Hakinen i Diniz jer nisu poštovali plavu zastavu).
BTW, uz poruku 11.133 (ova tema) imaš okačenu arhivu sa pravilima F1,
između ostalog i značenja zastavica. Tekst je inače prenet iz
časopisa "VRELE GUME".
auto-moto.260giovanni,
Ę? Biće da ne govorimo o istom događaju, Benetton koji sam ja video da zbog
Ę? švabe izlazi sa staze izašao je regularno kljunom napred, a Edwards &
Ę? Watson lepo rekoše da se izvinuo Aleziju!?
Govorimo o istoj stvari ali je Berger izleteo sa staze, 100%. Šumi se
možda izvinio Aleziju ali je Gerhard taj koji je naj*bao. ;)
auto-moto.262tomislavr,
> Da, ali u te najbolje sigurno ne spada Šumaher ;>
Da nije moéda Hil? Seti se, on je proäle godine u _Vilijamsu_
imao üetiri pobede (a i te üetiri znamo kakve su bile ;) , tj.
bio je deklasiran od strane Äumahera.
p.s. Nevolja sa ovim narodom i jeste äto svi imaju "kratkotrajno"
pamćenje :( .
auto-moto.263tomislavr,
> Plava zastava bi trebalo da uvek znači OBAVEZU propuštanja (zato su
Koliko se ja razumem statiüna plava zastava je obaveätenje da je
iza brée vozilo, a mahajuća plava je obaveza propuätanja.
auto-moto.264dusko,
> Nije bio Alesi nego Berger!
Oko ovoga sam se izgleda za*eb'o,
> I Schu nije baš mahao gledaocima nego je došlo do zabune među
> njima dvojicom ko će na koju stranu.
al' oko ovoga nisam sigurno. Šumi je definitivno vozio paradni krug,
a običaj je da ako neko iz bilo kog razloga ne juri vreme, onda ne vozi po
idealnoj liniji, bilo što će nekome da sje*e vreme, bilo što neko može
da ga pukne otpozadi na izlasku iz krivine.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.265obren,
> Koliko se ja razumem statična plava zastava je obaveštenje da je
> iza brže vozilo, a mahajuća plava je obaveza propuštanja.
Koji je smisao obaveštavanja da je iza tebe brži bolid ako nisi dužan
da isti propustiš? To ćeš videti i sâm u retrovizoru... ;)
Ne mogu da tvrdim, ali bar po onome što sam ja video do sada,
mahajuća plava zastava se pokazuje ugavnom:
1) da skrene pažnju onom vozaču nad kim je ˙već započeto˙ preticanje
kako ne bi napravio sranje...
2) ako je vozilo izuzetno sporo (Morbideli, Katajama i co) a iza
dolaze zahuktali pretendenti na pobedu u centru kadra ;)
Sa druge strane, statičnu plavu su uglavnom pokazivali vozačima koji
su i sami u iole izglednoj poziciji za bodove ali su zaostali za krug
iza nekih vozača pa ih oni pristižu. U ovom slučaju takođe bi trebalo
da važi obaveza propuštanja ali se može prolongirati do prve povoljne
prilike (malo veći pravac i sl.) Druga je stvar što se neki vozači
mrze ili se zanesu borbom za sopstvene pozicije pa ne šišaju favorite...
auto-moto.266kcurcic,
> Da nije možda Hil? Seti se, on je prošle godine u _Vilijamsu_
> imao četiri pobede (a i te četiri znamo kakve su bile ;) , tj.
> bio je deklasiran od strane Šumahera.
Za pobedu u trci nije bitan samo kvalitet vozača. Prošle
godine smo bili svedoci sjajne taktike i rada u boksu Benetona,
što je u velikoj (ponekad čak i odlučujućoj) meri doprinelo
dobrim Šumaherovim partijama. Naravno, ne želim da kažem da je
on bio samo statista, naprotiv.
Koliko god da ga ne volim, onakve vožnje kao na
poslednjim kvalifikacijama u Monte Karlu su ono što me i privlači
formuli.
auto-moto.268ljubisha,
>Da nije moéda Hil? Seti se, on je proäle godine u _Vilijamsu_
>imao üetiri pobbio je deklasiran od strane Äumahera.
A da postavimo stvar na sledeći način? Šta bi bilo da je Sena imao
bolid kao Beneton? I taktiku, moliću lepo, kao njihovu?
>p.s. Nevolja sa ovim narodom i jeste äto svi imaju "kratkotrajno"
> pamćenje :( .
A kako neko može da ima tako "tratkotrajno" pamćenje pa da Nemcu
oprosti one namerne prekršaje u direktom duelu sa Hilom prošle (i ma-
lo manje) pretrošle sezone? Sena je pravio gluposti kad je bio mlad al
ovaj ##$%# šumaher ga je nadmašio (al dobro, i ja bi da mi svi gledaju
kroz prste :( ).
auto-moto.269djcorto,
> a) Da li je ona pokazana Irvajnu?
Da.
> b) Ako je pokazana Irvajnu, zasto?
Zato sto je bio znacajno sporiji. Nije mahano, sto je znacilo da
bi trebalo da propusti brzeg, ili ubrza. Da je mahano, MORAO bi
da propusti Panisa.
Glupan i tupean bar to objasnise ...
auto-moto.270tomislavr,
> Sena je pravio gluposti kad je bio mlad al ovaj ##$%# šumaher
> ga je
Šumaher, u vreme kada je uzeo prvu šampionsku titulu, je baš bio
mator - nekih 24. godine...
auto-moto.271tomislavr,
> godine smo bili svedoci sjajne taktike i rada u boksu Benetona,
> što je u velikoj (ponekad čak i odlučujućoj) meri doprinelo
Na primer:
Francuska - Šumaher udje jednom u boks, Hil dva puta. Reakcija
navijača Hila: " E, jednom je manje ulazio u boks, opet je
Beneton zajebao Vilijams".
Nirburgring - Šumaher udje tri puta, Hil dva, Alezi čak samo
jednom. "E, sad je bio lakši nego Hil. Šta bi on da nije
Benetonove taktike".
Ono što hoću da kažem jeste da taktika uglavnom pomaže ako imate
dobrog vozača da je "vozi". Gde je sad Beneton bez Šumahera.
Najbolji odgovor je dao Flavio na pitanje zašto im ne ide kao
prošle godine - "prošle godine smo imali Šumahera" ;)
auto-moto.272kcurcic,
> Francuska - Šumaher udje jednom u boks, Hil dva puta. Reakcija
> Nirburgring - Šumaher udje tri puta, Hil dva, Alezi čak samo
Upravo o tome i pričam. Seti se one trke u Belgiji;
u jednom trenutku sam pomislio da imaju direktnu telefonsku
liniju sa samim gospodom bogom. Svi stavljaju gume za suvo,
sem Šumahera koji zadržava rain tyres, zatvara Hila dva kruga a onda
ponovo počinje kiša. Čista vozačka sposobnost, nema šta ;>
> Najbolji odgovor je dao Flavio na pitanje zašto im ne ide kao
> prošle godine - "prošle godine smo imali Šumahera" ;)
Da. Ove godine imaju dva vozača, od čega su se
davno odvikli. ;>>
auto-moto.273tomislavr,
> liniju sa samim gospodom bogom. Svi stavljaju gume za suvo,
> sem Šumahera koji zadržava rain tyres, zatvara Hila dva kruga a onda
Ajde kad moram neupućenima da prepričam ;):
Bilo je baš obrnuto. Svi su stavili gume za kišu osim Šumahera
koji je ostao na slikovima i koga Hil nije uspeo da prestigne. E
onda je staza počela da se suši, pa svi u box po kišne (naravno
osim Šumahera), pa je počela kiša :))) pa svi opet u box. Tu je
Šumi "zaradio" jedno neulaženje u boks. Tada je Šumi bio ohoho
ispred, ali na stazu izlazi pejs-kar - sreće po Hila!! ;). Ali
Hil se okreće na stazi i sve propada... ;)
Šta misliš kako bi Hil odvezao sa slikovima po kiši, i to u
Spa. E, o tome ja pričam kad kažem da taktiku neko treba i da
"vozi".
> Da. Ove godine imaju dva vozača, od čega su se
> davno odvikli. ;>>
Da, ovakva dva vozača:
#define alesi PALJEVINA
#define berger DIREK ;)
Zato im i ide ovako:
Benetton: 19 pts. - 6. races :)
auto-moto.274oldtimer,
> Šumaher, u vreme kada je uzeo prvu šampionsku titulu, je baš bio
> mator - nekih 24. godine...
Da, a o tome kako on uzima titule bolje da ne pričamo ;)
NHF, ali malo preteruješ sa svojim svakodnevnim izlivima
obožavanja gorepomenutog.
auto-moto.277space.ace,
--> Da nije moéda Hil? Seti se, on je proäle godine u _Vilijamsu_
--> imao üetiri pobede (a i te üetiri znamo kakve su bile ;) , tj.
A da nije slučajno prošle godine Schu imao bolid istih performansi kao
i Hill. Schu jeste dobar vozač, to ne negiram, ali nije tačno da je
bolji od Hill-a, smeliji jeste, ali imao je bolji tim i bolji box.
Uostalom, Hill je izgubio Šampionat u boksu, a ne na stazi.
auto-moto.279kcurcic,
> Bilo je baš obrnuto. Svi su stavili gume za kišu osim Šumahera
> koji je ostao na slikovima i koga Hil nije uspeo da prestigne. E
Isključujem se iz ovog flamewar-a pitanjem:
zašto li nije uspeo da ga prestigne ?
Da rezimiram: ne tvrdim da je Švabura :) loš vozač, naprotiv.
Takvo što bi mogao da izjavi samo neko slep. Takođe, niko ne može
poreći nekolike skandalčiće oko njega i Benetona. Da li je to istina
ili nije, u to ne ulazim jer, naravno, ne znam tačne informacije.
Nekoliko nesportskih poteza mu ne idu na čast, kao ni već poznate
izjave o Hilovim vozačkim sposobnostima. Sve da vozi i protiv mene,
nema razloga za takvo olajavanje. Sa druge strane, činjenica je da
su formuli potrebna uzbuđenja i da celoj bratiji koja od tog sporta
živi pogoduju ovakva prepucavanja i, makar i veštački, izazvani
skandali.
auto-moto.280dusko,
> Zato im i ide ovako:
A, možda i zato što sad, između ostalog, ne koriste kobilice koje su
12.5 mm tanje od propisanih, zato što ipak koriste sigurnosne igle pri
točenju goriva, pa čak i po cenu smanjenja protoka za 0.14L? Valjda im
je jedno kažnjavanje i jedan vozač koji je goreo dovoljna škola?
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.281tomislavr,
> E onda je staza počela da se suši, pa svi u box po kišne
^^^^^^
Lapsus calami O:). Trebalo je da pise - slikove ...
auto-moto.282tomislavr,
> NHF, ali malo preteruješ sa svojim svakodnevnim izlivima
> obožavanja gorepomenutog.
Ne mislim da ga "obozavam", jednostavno navijam za njega i znam
da je to ovde retko. Primecujem da kod nas ima mnogo manje onih
koji _navijaju_ za Hila, vecina samo _mrzi_ Sumahera (valjda zato
sto je nemac). Naravno na kazem da je on zlato, svi timovi tamo
varaju, samo on malo vise O:). Takodje, uveren sam da je ove
godine u Ferrariju cist kao suza...
auto-moto.283tomislavr,
> zašto li nije uspeo da ga prestigne ?
Zato sto je Sumaher pomalo bezobrazno menjao pravac i nije mu dao
da ga obidje nekoliko krugova. Zasto su kad je to radio Sumaher
svi bili zgranuti, a kad je to radio Sena sve su pripisivali
njegovom temperamentu ?
> Sa druge strane, činjenica je da su formuli potrebna uzbuđenja
Upravo tako.
auto-moto.284nenad,
> Zasto su kad je to radio Sumaher
> svi bili zgranuti, a kad je to radio Sena sve su pripisivali
> njegovom temperamentu ?
Ne pratim sada formulu, ali ako se Šumaher ponaša slično kao što
se ponašao Sena, onda mu ni nije mesto u Formuli - isto kao što
ni Seni nije bilo mesto.
auto-moto.285dusko,
Ko bude mogao neka obavezno pogleda na nekom od naših TV kanala,
večerašnju trku Indy Car-a US500.
Ja u principu ne volim ovale, al' su izmenili neka pravila oko ulaska
u boks kad je pace car na stazi, i poprilično je zanimljivo. Na
startu je došlo do karambola, pa je trka restartovana i još traje.
Inače, rekoše na početku da sa Žil de Feranom (Penzoil Honda)
pregovaraju vodeći timovi F1, ne bi li ga videli u svojim bolidima
sledeće sezone. Ne rekoše o kojim timovima je reč, al' izgleda da
Ferrari traži _pravog_ vozača ;)
Pozdrav,
Duško
P.S.: Cdr-e, aj' dovuci ova nova pravila za Indy, a ne bi škodio ni
njihov bonusni sistem bodovanja. O:)
auto-moto.286dusko,
Trka je bila fantastična!
250 krugova * 2 milje, staza u obliku slova D.
Pobedio je Vasser ispred Gugelmina. Honda je opet pokazala
dominaciju. A Vasser je zaslužio 1,000,000$ za 1. mesto + 100,000$
za pol poziciju + 40,000$ za pobedu sa pol pozicije. U prvom krugu
trke ga je dodirnuo Fernandez i skucali su se u zid sva trojica iz
prve starte linije, u njih su poopaljivali svi iz 2. i poneko iz ostalih.
Sve u svemu 12 totalno demoliranih bolida. Trka je zaustavljena,
Vasser se vratio u boks (kao i većina ostalih) po rezervni bolid,
ispodešavali
su ga za 30 min i u naredna 3-4 pit-stopa. Bilo je ukupno 12 izlazaka
pace car-a. Još ću početi da volim ovale ;)
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.287tomislavr,
Monaco Grand Prix
Press release of 18th May
Monaco, 18th May 1996
The second consecutive pole position for Ferrari and Michael
Schumacher, who after having been fastest in qualifying for the
San Marino Grand Prix has repeated that performance in the
Monaco Grand Prix. Schumacher actually set the two quickest laps
of the day, posting a 1m 20.372 after a record lap of 1m 20.356.
The pole position record for Ferrari has now moved on to 116,
and brings the World Champion's personal tally to 12. This will
be Ferrari's first pole position at Monaco since 1979 when Jody
Scheckter Dominated qualifying. Eddie Irvine, for his art, is
seventh with a time of 1m 21.542. Between this morning's free
practice and the afternoon qualifying session, the Honoray
Chairman of Fiat, Gianni Agnelli, visited the team spending
about half an hour with Jean Todt, the drivers and the engineers
and mechanics.
Jean Todt
"To actually get pole position at Monaco is almost a dream come
true. To achieve it two weeks after having done the same thing
at Imola is a wonderful present for the whole team and for all
our fans who even here are numerous and very supportive. I said
on Thursday that I expected we would do well in qualifying. For
the sake of a few fractions of a second Eddie would also have
started a bit higher up, considering that his time is very close
to the two cars in front of him. Michael was fantastic and
confirmed that he is the master of this track. But the car
allowed him to exploit his great talent to the full. Both F 310s
went well and I hope tomorrow's race will confirm the worth of
the work we have done so far."
Michael Schumacher "I must say I am surprised at today's result.
In the morning I was about half a second slower than Damon Hill
and I did not really expect to go that much quicker than him. I
pushed really hard and I am very happy especially for Ferrari,
even though I was unaware that this is the team's first pole
here for 17 years. At that time I was only ten years old and I
had no interest in Formula 1. I think I can win, because
tomorrow we should not have any reliability problems. My
accident in the morning was my fault: I arrived too quickly at
Ste. Devoete and when I realised I would not get round the
corner I tried to take the escape road but could not manage it.
I am sorry for having got in Berger's way at the end of
qualifying, but I thought the session was over and I was waving
to the crowds. By the time I saw him in the mirrors it was too
late. I tried to give him room but it was not enough. I will go
and apologise to him."
Eddie Irvine "This result is not too bad but I am a little bit
disappointed as this morning I had found a really good balance
on the car. However in the afternoon I found a little bit of
understeer had returned. I thought I could have got fifth place,
but this is good enough."
auto-moto.288tomislavr,
Monaco Grand Prix
Press release of May 19th
Monaco, 19th May 1996
Both Ferraris failed to finish the Monaco Grand Prix. Michael
Schumacher went out on the first lap, hitting the barrier on the
descent going down to the tunnel, pratically at the same point
where, on lap 70, Eddie Irvine lost control of his car and was
hit by Salo and Hakkinen after he managed to spin the car to
face the right way. Schumacher, starting from pole, was passed
by Hill who was on the less slippery part of the track. He was
second at the time of the accident. "I made a mistake," said the
German driver, "and I am very sorry for the team. I am very
angry with myself."
Irvine made a very good start which put him in fourth place at
the end of the first lap, even though he had been unable to take
part in the additional warm-up as his mechanics were forced to
change his engine and wiring loom which had suffered a loss of
power towards the end of the morning session. With a heavy fuel
load and with an intermediate set-up to suit both wet or dry
conditions, Eddie was third when he stopped to change from wets
to slicks at the end of lap 28. He was still third 8 laps later
when Panis ran into him, attempting a passing move at the Loews
hairpin. The engine cut out, but the marshals pushed the car
which allowed him to keep going. "I had already undone my belts
as the rules are clear that I should have been out of the race
for receiving outside assistance from the marshals." Eddie came
back to the pits, but because of a problem with the radio, the
team thought the incident with Panis had damaged his front wing,
which was changed unnecessarily. Only after this had been done
did the mechanics retighten his belts and refuel the car. In
fact the Stewards did not exclude him from the race but by this
time Irvine had lost about 80 seconds and was two laps down on
the leaders. "At the start the car was difficult to drive. It
was hard to control the back end and I had to drive very
carefully to keep the others behind me," explained Eddie. "When
Frentzen hit me as he tried to pass it did not do any damage.
Although the track was drying it was difficult for me to keep on
the racing line because of the understeer. I was still third
when Panis decided to have a go at me with a do or die move. It
was a shame, because as the racing line got wider, I was able to
drive better and get into a good rythm. All the same, I think
that if I had got to the end somebody might have made a protest
and I would have been excluded for having been pushed."
"There is both a little and a lot to be said, " commented Jean
Todt. "This was truly a cruel day for Ferrari, as we could have
gone for a win with both drivers. Michael was really
disappointed with himself over the accident, as he accepts
errors form others but not from himself. But this is one of the
reasons we are lucky to have him with us as he is a great
person. Eddie made a fantastic start and did a good job of
controlling what was a difficult race for him, having missed the
extra warm-up. On the positive side we can look to our
reliability and the incredible work done by the team who managed
to change the engine and wiring on Eddie's car in record time
outside in the pouring rain. Even if today went badly and we
missed out on a possible win, I think we will succeed very
soon."
auto-moto.289giovanni,
Ę? ni Seni nije bilo mesto.
Ne diraj u legendu.
auto-moto.292tomislavr,
* May 25th - On Last day of testing at Silverstone, Thuesday
Jacques Villeneuve got the best time for this last testing day at
Silverstone. He had his fastest lap in 1:27:90, meaning he was
half a second faster than Hill (1:28:42) - Hill was testing a new
Renault evolution. Next were Alesi (1:28:77), Hakkinen (1:28:95),
Barrichellow (1:29:68) and Coultard (1:29:70).
A uz poruku ide i odlicna slika Zaka Vilneva... ;)
j44.jpgauto-moto.293tomislavr,
Biografija Sumahera, a uz poruku i slike udara u Dejmona Hila
iz Adelaide '94.
Michael Schumacher
Date of Birth: 3 January 1969
Place of birth: Hurth-Hermuhlheim, Germany
Nationality: German
Lives: Monte Carlo
Schumacher So Far
* In 1984 at the age of 15, he won the German Junior Karting
Championship. He defended his title successfully in 1985 and also
finished second in the World Junior Championship.
* In 1988 he became Formula Konig Champion, winning 10 out of 11 races,
and finished fourth in the German Formula Ford 1600 series and second
in the European Championship.
* In 1989 he moved into Formula Three with the Weber, Trella and
Stuttgart (WTS) team, finishing one point behind Karl Wendlinger.
* In 1990 he dominated the German F3 championship with WTS, and then
joined the Mercedes-Benz junior sportscar team, scoring a victory at
Mexico City.
* In 1991 he finished second in his F3000 debut at Sugo in Japan, and a
month later qualified seventh for the Belgian Formula One Grand Prix
at Spa-Francorchamps with the Jordan team.
* Later in 1991 Schumacher moved to Benetton making his debut in the
Italian Formula One Grand Prix at Monza. He qualified seventh and then
finished fifth.
* In 1992 he went on to record his first Formula One win at the Belgian
Grand Prix with the Benetton team.
* In 1992 Schumacher finishes on the podium seven times.
* Schumacher's scores his second victory in 1993, in Portugal.
* In 1994 he scored eight wins and won the drivers' championship with
Benetton.
* In 1995 wins his second drivers'championship with Benetton.
schumach.zipauto-moto.294obren,
Red je da propratimo najveći uspeh u istoriji našeg auto sporta...
MILOŠ PAVLOVIĆ OSVOJIO TROFEJ SVOG IDOLA
Trijumfom na Svetskom kupu u Japanu, naš as osvojio trofej Airtona Sene
i ušao u istoriju jugoslovenskog automobilizma. - Pavlović ide koracima
Sene, Šumahera i mnogih poznatih asova koji su osnovu sticali u kartingu.
- Najmlađi učesnik u "formuli Renault ELF campus"
Miloš Pavlović je još pre dve godine dao povod zaljubljenicima u
automobilski i karting sport širom sveta da zapamte njegovo ime. Još kao
14-godišnjak, postao je vicešampion Evrope i osvojio treće mesto na
Svetskom prvenstvu u kartingu nagovestivši ogroman potencijal. Koračajući
stazom mnogih asova koji su docnije postali veliki, jedan od naših najvećih
talenata nedavno je ponovo dosegao do samog vrha. Minulog vikenda, pobedio
je na finalnoj trci Svetskog kupa u klasi "Formula A" na čuvenom autodromu
Suzuka u Japanu i osvojio trofej Airtona Sene, legendarnog brazilskog asa
Formule 1 i svog nekadašnjeg idola.
- "Nezaboravni Senin stil vožnje je za mene oduvek bio ideal kojem sam
težio i ovaj trofej mi je najdraži i najveći u karijeri. Maštam o tome da
jednog dana sednem u pravi bolid i oprobam se u najjačoj svetskoj
seniorskoj konkurenciji" - rekao je Pavlović.
Šesnaestogodišnji Beograđanin već nekoliko godina živi u italijanskom
gradiću po imenu Dezencano Del Garda, stotinak kilometara od Milana na putu
ka Veneciji. Od ove sezone prešao je u novi klub i popeo se za stepenik
više u rangu takmičenja najkonkurentnijeg svetskog karting šampionata.
Prešao je u klasu "Formula A" a vozi za ekipu Birel. Pre nešto više od dva
meseca, debitovao je kao nejmlađi učesnik u poznatom međunarodnom
takmičenju "Formula Renault ELF Campus" koje se održava na pistama u
Italiji i Francuskoj. PRe nego što je seo u pravi bolid morao je da završi
odgovarajuću školu vožnje i zasluži licencu za takmičenje u formuli. Ocene
njegovih instruktora, pod čijim su nadzorom počeli mnogi kasnije poznati
svetski asovi, je da naš Pavlović poseduje vanserijski talenat.
Na Svetskom kupu u Japanu učestvovalo je više od 80 vozača iz 36 zemalja
sveta. Naš Pavlović je u poslednjem krugu trke obišao trostrukog svetskog
prvaka, Italijana Pantana i stigao do blistave pobede.
- "Odlično sam startovao i shvatio da mogu da pobedim kada sam stigao do
drugog mesta. Bilo je riskantno čekati Pantanovu grešku i odlučio sam da ga
napadnem u poslednjem krugu. Plan je uspeo i čestitali su mi svi pa i
najveći kokurenti" - rekao je posle trke Pavlović.
Više od 30.000 gledalaca na autodromu Suzuka, ovacijama su ispratili kraj
trke i pozdravili našeg asa. Pobednički pehar mu je predao predsednik
Svetske karting federacije Buzer.
(Politika, utorak 28. maj 1996)
Imaćemo za koga da navijamo za dve-tri godine! :)
auto-moto.295senna,
Imacemo za koga da navijamo za dve-tri godine! :)
------
Daj boze :)
auto-moto.296inferno,
Ů│ ˙ Ne pratim sada formulu, ali ako se Šumaher ponaša slično kao što
Ů│ ˙ se ponašao Sena, onda mu ni nije mesto u Formuli - isto kao što
Ů│ ˙ ni Seni nije bilo mesto.
Pretpostavljam da ćeš nam uskoro napisati kako Agasi ne zna
da drži reket? ;>
auto-moto.297mire,
Nebih se složio sa nenadom da seni nije bilo mesto u formuli jedan,
iako je imao ispade kakvi ne dolikuju jednom vrhunskom vozaču, ali
se zato po pitanju Šumahera apsolutno slažem...dotičnog ne bih
pustio ni trotinet da vozi na javnom mestu, a kamo li formulu 1.
auto-moto.298tomislavr,
Ajde ljudi nije moguce da niko ne zna rezultate nezvanicnih
treinga (F1). Nemoj to sutra da se ponovi... ;)
auto-moto.299cdragan,
> Ajde ljudi nije moguce da niko ne zna rezultate nezvanicnih
> treinga (F1). Nemoj to sutra da se ponovi... ;)
Uhhh .. tek sad stigoh kući ;)
Formula 1: Spanish Grand Prix
2nd Free Practice
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Session Resume:
Weather: Hot and sunny
Time Event
00 Hill (1m 24.456s) on pole from the morning session but is only 0.001s
in front of Schumacher
02 Schumacher on track
04 6 cars on track
05 Schumachers first lap is a 1m 25.292s, pole +0.836s
06 Schumacher back into the pits
08 Hill loses his first fast lap to traffic
12 Hill runs a lap of 1m 24.533s, pole +0.077s
14 Alesi on track, 13th from this morning
17 Alesi runs a lap of 1m 25.136s, pole +0.680s
17 Top 6 are: Hill, Schumacher, Villeneuve,
Irvine, Alesi, Verstappen
22 Fisichella takes a short cut accross the gravel
23 Hill runs a 1m 24.879s, pole +0.423s
25 Hill runs a 1m 24.883s, pole +0.427s
26 Schumacher runs a 1m 24.981s, pole +0.525s
26 Hill back into pits
27 Schumacher back into pits
29 Only one car on track - Frentzen 7th at pole +1.002s
33 Alesi moves up to 3rd with a 1m 24.839s
33 Top 6 are now: Hill, Schumacher, Alesi, Villeneuve,
Irvine, Verstappen
36 No more improvement for Alesi who runs a 1m 24.888s
37 Coulthard in 17th at pole +3.066s pulls off onto the grass
with terminal problems
39 Diniz spins his way onto the start straight but does not hit anything
39 Hill on track again
41 Hill runs a fast lap but is still 0.865s off his pole time
44 Hill getting faster only 0.150s off this time
45 Schumacher and Hill back into pits
47 Berger moves up to 7th
48 Top 6 are still: Hill, Schumacher, Alesi, Villeneuve,
Irvine, Verstappen
51 Diniz moves up to 6th at pole +0.736s
53 Villeneuve improves his 4th time and is now pole +0.422s
55 Villeneuve loses his next lap to traffic
56 Villeneuve beats Alesi into 3rd place with a pole +0.363s
56 Top 6 are now: Hill, Schumacher, Villeneuve, Alesi,
Irvine, Diniz
58 Hill completes a late lap but is over 1s off pole
58 Berger now takes 3rd with a pole +0.248s
60 In the last seconds Panis takes pole from Hill with a 1m 24.450s
0.006s faster than Hill
60 And then Barrichallo beats Panis with a 1m 24.367s
61 And then Irvine beats Barrichello with a 1m 24.331s
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Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 24.331s 3 1m 25.081s
2 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 24.367s 10 1m 26.215s
3 O.Panis Ligier 1m 24.450s 11 1m 26.300s
4 D.Hill Williams 1m 24.456s 1 1m 24.456s
5 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 24.457s 2 1m 24.457s
6 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 24.615s 7 1m 25.858s
7 G.Berger Benetton 1m 24.704s 14 1m 26.690s
8 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 24.839s 13 1m 26.517s
9 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 25.192s 9 1m 25.961s
10 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 25.225s 4 1m 25.225s
11 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 25.256s 5 1m 25.715s
12 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 25.774s 6 1m 25.774s
13 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 25.919s 15 1m 26.882s
14 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 25.945s 8 1m 25.945s
15 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 26.343s 12 1m 26.343s
16 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 27.183s 22 1m 54.104s
17 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 27.332s 18 1m 28.109s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 27.374s 19 1m 28.464s
19 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 27.522s 16 1m 27.522s
20 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 27.623s 17 1m 27.623s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 28.868s 20 1m 28.868s
22 A.Montermini Forti 1m 28.952s 21 1m 30.138s
---- 107% ---- 1m 30.234s
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GALE FORCE F1 - the fastest results service on the Internet.
auto-moto.300obren,
Rezultati današnjih kvalifikacija...
1. Hill
2. Villeneuve
3. Schumacher
4. Alesi
5. Berger
6. Irvine
7. Barrichello
8. Panis
. . .
auto-moto.301kcurcic,
Rezime kvalifikacija u Španiji:
Session Resume:
Weather: Cloudy
Time Event
0: 0 Villenuve fastest from the morning session 1m 21.041s
0: 0 Session Starts
0: 3 Both Mclarens on track
0: 4 1m 24.280s - M.Hakkinen
0: 4 Current Positions: (1) Hakkin,
0: 5 1m 23.740s - J.Herbert
0: 5 Current Positions: (1) Herber, (2) Hakkin,
0: 6 1m 24.100s - J.Verstappen
0: 6 Current Positions: (1) Herber, (2) Versta, (3) Hakkin,
0: 8 Diniz spins but does not touch
0:10 1m 23.510s - M.Salo
0:10 Current Positions: (1) Salo, (2) Herber, (3) Versta, (4) Hakkin,
0:10 1m 25.100s - D.Coulthard
0:10 Current Positions: (1) Salo, (2) Herber, (3) Versta, (4) Hakkin, (5)
Coulth,
0:11 Villenuve on track
0:12 1m 23.310s - H.Frentzen
0:12 Current Positions: (1) Frentz, (2) Salo, (3) Herber, (4) Versta, (5)
Hakkin, (6) Coulth
0:13 1m 22.320s - J.Villeneuve
0:13 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Frentz, (3) Salo, (4) Herber, (5)
Versta, (6) Hakkin
0:14 1m 21.710s - J.Villeneuve
0:15 1m 23.650s - O.Panis
0:15 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Frentz, (3) Salo, (4) Panis, (5)
Herber, (6) Versta
0:17 1m 22.360s - M.Schumacher
0:17 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Schuma, (3) Frentz, (4) Salo, (5)
Panis, (6) Herber
0:18 1m 22.370s - J.Alesi
0:18 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Schuma, (3) Alesi, (4) Frentz, (5)
Salo, (6) Panis
0:20 1m 23.090s - G.Berger
0:20 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Schuma, (3) Alesi, (4) Berger, (5)
Frentz, (6) Salo
0:22 1m 21.700s - D.Hill
0:22 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villen, (3) Schuma, (4) Alesi, (5)
Berger, (6) Frentz
0:23 1m 21.640s - D.Hill
0:23 1m 23.030s - J.Herbert
0:23 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villen, (3) Schuma, (4) Alesi, (5)
Herber, (6) Berger
0:28 1m 21.590s - M.Schumacher
0:28 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Villen, (4) Alesi, (5)
Herber, (6) Berger
0:28 1m 22.860s - E.Irvine
0:28 Current Positions: (1) Schuma, (2) Hill, (3) Villen, (4) Alesi, (5)
Irvine, (6) Herber
0:31 Coulthard 11th, Hakkinen 13th
0:33 1m 21.150s - J.Villeneuve
0:33 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Schuma, (3) Hill, (4) Alesi, (5)
Irvine, (6) Herber
0:34 1m 21.310s - J.Villeneuve
0:35 1m 22.460s - E.Irvine
0:35 1m 22.900s - R.Barrichello
0:35 Current Positions: (1) Villen, (2) Schuma, (3) Hill, (4) Alesi, (5)
Irvine, (6) Barric
0:37 Berger 9th
0:39 Hill, Irvine, Schumacher all on track
0:40 1m 22.160s - J.Alesi
0:42 1m 20.900s - D.Hill
0:42 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villen, (3) Schuma, (4) Alesi, (5)
Irvine, (6) Barric
0:44 1m 22.330s - E.Irvine
0:45 Badoer, Montermini over 107%
0:46 1m 22.330s - G.Berger
0:46 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villen, (3) Schuma, (4) Alesi, (5)
Irvine, (6) Berger
0:53 Panis 9th
0:54 1m 22.690s - O.Panis
0:54 Panis 7th
0:55 1m 22.060s - J.Alesi
0:57 Berger, Hill, Irvine on track
0:57 Villenuve, Schumacher on track
0:58 1m 22.130s - G.Berger
0:58 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villen, (3) Schuma, (4) Berger, (5)
Alesi, (6) Irvine
0:59 1m 20.650s - D.Hill
1: 1 1m 21.170s - D.Hill
1: 1 1m 21.080s - J.Villeneuve
1: 2 Katayama engine blows in front of Schumacher
auto-moto.302kcurcic,
Rezultati kvakifikacija u Španiji:
Track Times:
2nd Free 1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 20.650s 4 1m 24.456s 1 1m 24.456s
2 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 21.084s 6 1m 24.615s 7 1m 25.858s
3 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 21.587s 5 1m 24.457s 2 1m 24.457s
4 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 22.061s 8 1m 24.839s 13 1m 26.517s
5 G.Berger Benetton 1m 22.125s 7 1m 24.704s 14 1m 26.690s
6 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 22.333s 1 1m 24.331s 3 1m 25.081s
7 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 22.379s 2 1m 24.367s 10 1m 26.215s
8 O.Panis Ligier 1m 22.685s 3 1m 24.450s 11 1m 26.300s
9 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 23.027s 12 1m 25.774s 6 1m 25.774s
10 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 23.070s 13 1m 25.919s 15 1m 26.882s
11 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 23.195s 11 1m 25.256s 5 1m 25.715s
12 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 23.224s 14 1m 25.945s 8 1m 25.945s
13 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 23.371s 10 1m 25.225s 4 1m 25.225s
14 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 23.416s 19 1m 27.522s 16 1m 27.522s
15 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 23.438s 15 1m 26.343s 12 1m 26.343s
16 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 24.401s 16 1m 27.183s 22 1m 54.104s
17 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 24.468s 9 1m 25.192s 9 1m 25.961s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 25.274s 18 1m 27.374s 19 1m 28.464s
19 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 25.531s 17 1m 27.332s 18 1m 28.109s
20 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 25.621s 20 1m 27.623s 17 1m 27.623s
---- 107% ---- 1m 26.295s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 26.615s 21 1m 28.868s 20 1m 28.868s
22 A.Montermini Forti 1m 27.358s 22 1m 28.952s 21 1m 30.138s
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auto-moto.303kcurcic,
Staza u Španiji.
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Zaboravih ranije da pitam, gde je ovo? Kako se dolazi do istog.
Uputi me!
auto-moto.305lexus,
Schumacher pobednik u Španiji!
Hill se tri puta okretao na stazi, treći put
je bio fatalan ;)
2. Alesi
3. Villeneuve
auto-moto.306tomislavr,
Schumacher brilijantnom voznjom pobedio u Spaniji.
Hil, kao i obicno ;), lose vozio - imao _nekoliko_ spinova i na
kraju poljubio ogradu. Poredak na kraju:
1. Schumacher
2. Alesi
3. Villeneuve
4. Frentzen
5. Hakkinen
6. Diniz (prvi poeni u karijeri)
Inace, sve je bilo reseno vec posle desetak krugova, kada je
Sumaher posle loseg starta i pada na 6. mesto, "nanizao"
Baricela, Bergera, Alezija i Vilneva (Hil se sam kaznio ;).
Jos jedna trka kakvu samo Sumaher moze da priredi... :)
Ajd' da kazem i jedan trac: Flavio Briatore, kako se pise po
vestima na Internetu, ima nameru da otpusti jednog vozaca jer
nije zadovoljan ucinkom...
auto-moto.307kcurcic,
> Zaboravih ranije da pitam, gde je ovo? Kako se dolazi do istog.
> Uputi me!
http://www.monaco.mc/f1/
auto-moto.308kcurcic,
> Schumacher brilijantnom voznjom pobedio u Spaniji.
Što jes' - jes'. Jeste bila fascinantna.
auto-moto.309cdragan,
Formula 1: Spanish Grand Prix 96
=======================================================================
Warm Up
Weather: Raining, raining, raining and the same expected for the race.
Temperature is 13 deg C and the track is very very slippery.
Time Event
00 Everyone runs a single installation lap to check the
car and then back to the pits.
04 First fast! lap is Frentzen 1m 49.9s
08 Few drivers complete a timed lap. Everyone is in/out in/out
trying different cars and setups.
09 Hill goes fastest 1m 43.353s
12 Hill spins 360 but stays on track - back into pits
15 Panis spins 360 but stays on track
15 Schumacher gives a fine show of rally driving by 4 wheel sliding
on just about every corner
15 Schumacher goes 2nd 1m 44.219s
16 Positions: Hill, Schumacher, Alesi, Coulthard, Barrichello, Brundle
19 Panis goes 3rd
20 Lamy spins off
20 Hill -> 0.8s -> Schumacher -> 1.6s -> Panis
21 Panis off into sand and retires
23 SESSION STOPPED
Big crash as Frentzen destroys his car on the start straight. Frentzen
out OK. He ran wide coming round the last corner and touched the kerb
which sent him spinning straight back across the track into the pit wall.
Unfortunately he caught an access gap in the wall which broke the
spinning car in half and sent wheels everywhere.
33 SESSION CANCELLED
Due to an FIA rule which states there must be a 4 hour gap between
the end of the warm-up and the start of the race this session has
been cancelled without running the last 7 minutes. As its now 10h03
continuing the session would have meant delaying the 14h00 race start.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Track Times:
Qualify 3rd Free
2nd
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos
Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 43.353s 1 1m 20.650s 2 1m 21.376s 4
2 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 44.219s 3 1m 21.587s 3 1m 21.521s 5
3 O.Panis Ligier 1m 45.824s 8 1m 22.685s 6 1m 23.014s 3
4 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 45.934s 4 1m 22.061s 11 1m 23.260s 8
5 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 45.968s 6 1m 22.333s 4 1m 22.501s 1
6 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 46.132s 11 1m 23.195s 5 1m 22.760s 11
7 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 46.312s 14 1m 23.416s 15 1m 23.682s 19
8 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 46.682s 7 1m 22.379s 9 1m 23.197s 2
9 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 46.687s 9 1m 23.027s 10 1m 23.215s 12
10 G.Berger Benetton 1m 47.064s 5 1m 22.125s 13 1m 23.558s 7
11 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 47.114s 15 1m 23.438s 7 1m 23.126s 15
12 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 47.811s 19 1m 25.531s 19 1m 25.245s 17
13 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 47.910s 2 1m 21.084s 1 1m 21.041s 6
14 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 48.102s 13 1m 23.371s 14 1m 23.664s 10
15 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 48.344s 10 1m 23.070s 8 1m 23.172s 13
16 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 49.266s 12 1m 23.224s 12 1m 23.534s 14
17 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 50.401s 16 1m 24.401s 16 1m 24.078s 16
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 50.782s 18 1m 25.274s 20 1m 26.515s 18
19 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 51.580s 17 1m 24.468s 17 1m 24.836s 9
20 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 55.684s 20 1m 25.621s 18 1m 24.983s 20
=====================================================================
Spanish Grand Prix 96: The Result
Race Resume:
Weather: Heavy rain
Lap Event
Grid Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) E.Irvine
WU On the warm-up lap Salo stalls on the grid and has to start
from the pit lane
0 Villenue and Alesi get past Hill into the first corner,
both Ferrari's have bad starts.
0 Lamy, Rosset and Coulthard all out on the first lap
1 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.732s->(2) J.Alesi
->0.029s->(3) D.Hill->2.464s->(4) G.Berger
->1.127s->(5) E.Irvine->0.899s->(6) M.Schumacher
1 Panis pulls into pits and retires
1 Irvine retires
2 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) J.Alesi
(3) D.Hill (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Schumacher (6) R.Barrichello
2 Fastest lap: Villenuve - 1m 52.182s
2 Herbert off onto gravel but returns to track
3 Hill off onto gravel but returns to track
4 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.361s->(2) J.Alesi
->6.485s->(3) G.Berger->0.630s->(4) M.Schumacher
->3.701s->(5) D.Hill->2.448s->(6) R.Barrichello
4 Fastest lap: Alesi - 1m 51.673s
5 Fastest lap: Schumacher - 1m 50.568s
5 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Schumacher (4) G.Berger
(5) D.Hill (6) R.Barrichello
6 Fastest lap: Schumacher - 1m 49.045s
6 Brundle off onto gravel but returns to track
6 Villenuve, Alesi, Schumacher all very close together
7 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->0.771s->(2) J.Alesi
->0.748s->(3) M.Schumacher->7.138s->(4) G.Berger
->3.109s->(5) D.Hill->4.900s->(6) R.Barrichello
7 Schumacher attacking Alesi
7 Hill off onto gravel again but returns to track
8 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Schumacher (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
8 Schumacher takes Alesi
9 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->0.458s->(2) M.Schumacher
->1.524s->(3) J.Alesi->6.252s->(4) G.Berger
->7.370s->(5) R.Barrichello->5.906s->(6) H.Frentzen
9 Schumacher attacking Villeneuve
10 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
10 Hill in 8th
11 Hill spins coming onto the start straight, touches the pit
wall and retires.
11 Schumacher passes Villeneuve
11 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
12 Fastest lap: Schumacher - 1m 47.337s
13 Fastest lap: Schumacher - 1m 46.543s
13 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->6.606s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->1.269s->(3) J.Alesi->4.368s->(4) G.Berger
->5.870s->(5) R.Barrichello->6.970s->(6) H.Frentzen
14 Fastest lap: Schumacher - 1m 45.517s
14 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->10.515s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
15 12 cars left on track
15 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->14.924s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->0.778s->(3) J.Alesi->4.479s->(4) G.Berger
->5.745s->(5) R.Barrichello->7.768s->(6) H.Frentzen
15 Verstappen spins 360 but does not touch
16 Rain falling more heavily
16 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
16 Diniz off into gravel but returns to track
16 Salo off into gravel but returns to track
17 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->20.855s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->2.385s->(3) J.Alesi->3.528s->(4) G.Berger
->6.476s->(5) R.Barrichello->7.724s->(6) H.Frentzen
17 Schumacher laps Salo (12th)
18 Brundle out with engine(?) problem
20 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->26.614s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->3.392s->(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
22 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->31.000s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
22 Verstappen 7th, Hakkinen 8th, Herbert 9th, Diniz 10th (no more cars)
23 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->37.150s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->2.893s->(3) J.Alesi->4.513s->(4) G.Berger
->7.570s->(5) R.Barrichello->10.370s->(6) H.Frentzen
24 Pits: Schumacher - 7.2s
25 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->23.385s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->0.864s->(3) J.Alesi->4.914s->(4) G.Berger
->4.937s->(5) R.Barrichello->10.465s->(6) H.Frentzen
27 Schumacher (1) lapping 3.5s faster than Villeneuve (2)
27 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
27 Schumacher laps Hakkinen (8th)
28 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
29 Frentzen (6) -> 1.6s -> Verstappen (7) -> 57s -> Hakkinen (8)
30 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->41.700s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) H.Frentzen
32 Pits: Alesi - 11.9s
34 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) G.Berger (4) R.Barrichello
(5) H.Frentzen (6) J.Verstappen
34 Pits: Berger
34 Pits: Frentzen
34 Pits: Verstappen
36 Pits: Villeneuve - 10.0s
38 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1m 9.000s->(2) R.Barrichello
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) H.Frentzen
40 Pits: Diniz
40 Verstappen 7, Hakkinen 8, Diniz 9
43 Pits: Schumacher - 8.7s
43 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) R.Barrichello
->22.000s->(3) J.Alesi (4) J.Villeneuve
(5) G.Berger (6) H.Frentzen
43 Pits: Barrichello - 9.3s
44 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Alesi
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) R.Barrichello
(5) G.Berger (6) H.Frentzen
44 Pits: Hakkinen - 9.0s
45 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Alesi
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) R.Barrichello
(5) G.Berger (6) H.Frentzen
46 Barrichello into pits with a problem, comes out after a 1 minute
stop but pulls onto the grass later and retires.
46 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Alesi
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) R.Barrichello
(5) G.Berger (6) H.Frentzen
47 Berger retires
47 7 cars left - Diniz 7th
48 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1m 0.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->10.000s->(3) J.Villeneuve->28.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) J.Verstappen (6) M.Hakkinen
48 Verstappen spins off and out of the race
51 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1m 5.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->7.200s->(3) J.Villeneuve->28.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
52 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1m 5.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->5.996s->(3) J.Villeneuve->28.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
53 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->59.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->5.107s->(3) J.Villeneuve->28.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
54 6 cars left
55 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->57.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.406s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.929s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
55 Villeneuve (3) catching up to Alesi (2)
56 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->57.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.256s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
58 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->57.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->2.720s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
59 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->57.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->1.600s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
59 Villeneuve/Alesi race laps Hakkinen (5)
60 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->57.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->2.000s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
61 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1m 0.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.329s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
62 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1m 0.000s->(2) J.Alesi
->4.100s->(3) J.Villeneuve->54.000s->(4) H.Frentzen
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) P.Diniz
65 Schumacher Wins
In a Nutshell:
- Very wet race
- Many drivers spun-off crossed the gravel and rejoined the track
- Hill spun off 3 times, the third kept him off
- Schumacher and Ferrari totally out classed the field in difficult conditions
- Villeneuve and Alesi seemed pretty even through out the race
- Once again everyone who finished scored points
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1hr 59m 49.307s (65 Laps)
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 45.517s)
2 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 0m 45.302s
3 J.Villeneuve Williams Gap 0m 48.388s
4 H.Frentzen Sauber Laps behind: 1
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren Laps behind: 1
6 P.Diniz Ligier Laps behind: 2
Retirements:
J.Verstappen Footwork On Lap: 48 Reason:
R.Barrichello Jordan On Lap: 46 Reason:
G.Berger Benetton On Lap: 45 Reason:
J.Herbert Sauber On Lap: 21 Reason:
M.Brundle Jordan On Lap: 18 Reason:
M.Salo Tyrrell On Lap: 17 Reason:
D.Hill Williams On Lap: 11 Reason: (Pole Position)
U.Katayama Tyrrell On Lap: 9 Reason:
G.Fisichella Minardi On Lap: 2 Reason:
O.Panis Ligier On Lap: 2 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari On Lap: 2 Reason:
P.Lamy Minardi On Lap: 1 Reason:
R.Rosset Footwork On Lap: 1 Reason:
D.Coulthard McLaren On Lap: 1 Reason:
Not Qualified:
A.Montermini Forti
L.Badoer Forti
========================================================================
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
1 D.Hill 43
2 J.Villeneuve 26
M.Schumacher 26
4 J.Alesi 17
5 O.Panis 11
6 D.Coulthard 10
7 E.Irvine 9
8 M.Hakkinen 8
9 R.Barrichello 7
G.Berger 7
11 H.Frentzen 6
12 M.Salo 5
13 J.Herbert 4
14 M.Brundle 1
J.Verstappen 1
P.Diniz 1
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
1 Williams 69
2 Ferrari 35
3 Benetton 24
4 McLaren 18
5 Ligier 12
6 Sauber 10
7 Jordan 8
8 Tyrrell 5
9 Footwork 1
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auto-moto.310budim,
(:) Hill se tri puta okretao na stazi, treći put
(:) je bio fatalan ;)
Nemoj da mi staješ na muku... :(((
poz,
budimir
auto-moto.311stevicm,
> (:) Hill se tri puta okretao na stazi, treci put
> (:) je bio fatalan ;)
>
> Nemoj da mi stajes na muku... :(((
Votson i Edvards su se ubili kukajuci na Eurosportu kada se to desilo!
Ovaj prvi je izjavio, da mora da je do toga doslo zbog setapa bolida,
jer okretanje nije bas svojstveno Hilu, koji je poznat po stalozenoj
voznji! E, dal je u pravu nemam pojma, al bi voleo da znam.
auto-moto.312djcorto,
> jer okretanje nije bas svojstveno Hilu, koji je poznat po
> stalozenoj voznji! E, dal je u pravu nemam pojma, al bi voleo
> da znam.
Da se Hillov auto ponasao kako treba - nije. Da je on bas nesto
bio raspolozen za sankanje - nije izgledalo. Sumaher mi nikako
nije drag i mio, ali ona voznja po onom kijametu je izgledala
kao da se RainMan povampirio. Ostali su vise mislili kako da
ostanu u trci, a on je ODVOZAO trku. Mozda ferrari ima 4WD ?
:))))
U svakom slucaju, coveku toliko zeljnom i naviklom na pobede
dosadasnji "uspesi" mora da su jako tesko pali ... ;) Razlog
vise za trud.
auto-moto.313tomislavr,
Spanish Grand Prix
Press release of June 1st
Barcelona, 1st June 1996
Michael Schumacher has qualified on the second row of the grid
for the Spanish Grand Prix and Eddie Irvine is on row three. The
World Champion set the third fastest time of 1m 21.587s and the
Irish driver was sixth in 1m 22.333s. Schumacher set his best
time with the spare car as he felt its set-up was better suited
to the track conditions compared to the settings on his race
car, which he used on his first run only. Irvine's engine was
changed between the morning and qualifying sessions after it
leaked a small amount of oil.
Jean Todt
"Today's result is a reasonably fair reflection of our potential
on this track. I do not think our drivers could have done any
better. Tomorrow we will aim to finish with both cars in the
points and hopefully a place on the podium."
Michael Schumacher
"While I might have expected to be a bit closer to the Williams,
I feel this result gives a clear picture of the current
situation from a technical point of view. Today I got the
absolute maximum out of the car. The gap stems mainly from
aerodynamic reasons and until we have the new parts we are
currently developing it will be difficult to close it. There is
nothing wrong with the engine: we are competitive in this area.
Next week at Imola we will test a new raised nose, and if the
results are positive I would hope to use it in Canada.
Realistically, the best I can hope for tomorrow is a podium
finish."
Eddie Irvine
"This position is pretty much what I had expected. I am pleased
because I finally managed to find a good balance for the car,
even though I am still having a few problems in the S after the
pit straight. The car is really good in the fast corners.
Considering that my grid position is not bad and that it was a
close fought qualifying session between myself and the two cars
ahead of me, I think I can have a good race, although the
Williams will probably be out there racing on their own."
auto-moto.314tomislavr,
Spanish Grand Prix
Press release of June 2nd
Barcelona, 2nd June 1996
Thanks to a triumphant and dominant drive from Michael
Schumacher in the Spanish GP, Ferrari has achieved its first
victory of the season and increased its total number of wins to
106. This was the World Champion's 20th win of his career.
Having dropped three places to sixth on the first lap because of
a clutch problem, Schumacher took the lead on lap 12 passing
first Alesi and then Villeneuve. Once he had a clear track ahead
of him, Michael took off on his own, setting a series of fastest
laps. Ferrari's planned two stops strategy proved to be the
right one. Having made his first refuelling stop at the end of
lap 24 the German driver got back on the track holding onto a 23
seconds advantage over the next car. After his second stop on la
p 42 he rejoined for the final stages of the race with a lead of
1m02s. At around the halfway mark his F 310 developed an engine
problem. It was probably electrical, but the engineers will have
to investigate the problem back in Maranello. However it did not
have much of an effect from the performance point of view.
"I really did not think I would win today, " said the World
Champion "But this is really a great, great day because we
deserved it and we merit this triumph because of all the work we
have done together. Apart from the problem in the middle of the
race when the engine was always cutting out on one or two
cylinders, the car was very good in the wet. This confirms that
we must work very hard to really understand what are the
problems with the car. Here we were uncompetitive in the dry but
we we re dominat in the rain while in Monaco the situation was
the reverse. There is much to do but for the moment I take great
pleasure from this victory which I would like to dedicate to the
whole team."
Eddie Irvine, who made up one place at the start, retired on lap
2 after spinning off the track. "I was easily keeping pace
with Berger who was ahead of me, without having to take any
risks," said Eddie. "Then suddenly I lost control and found
myself spinning on the grass. I selected reverse and I would
have got going again. Unfortunately I got stuck on a bump and
the rear wheels could not get any grip. Michael did a great job
and he has taken a lot of pressure off the team."
"Thanks to Michael's fantastic race and the extraordinary work
done by the team we now have this success in our pocket which
will motivate us for the rest of the season" said Jean Todt.
"But this is not the time to talk of the dawning of a new age:
for now we have won one race, just as we did in 1994 and 1995.
It is true that the title race is open but our objective is to
continue with this positive trend and to continue improving,
without setting ourselves any s pecial targets. Schumach er was
incredible but I have to say that today the team was worthy of
him, both in its preparation of the car and in its planning of
the race strategy."
As usual, Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo watched the race
alone at home in Bologna. After the race and full of emotion he
said" I am very happy with this win and Michael Schumacher's
extraordinary race. I want to dedicate this success, above all
to this exceptional driver, but also to Jean Todt and all the
guys in the team who deserve it because of all their hard work.
Finally I want to thank our fans for their passion and patience
and their continued support"
auto-moto.315tomislavr,
Sta rade sampioni ;) kad nista ne rade...
Rain at Imola
Schumacher meets Tomba
Imola, 5th June. Rain interrupted the second day of testing for
Ferrari at Imola.
Michael Schumacher had to wait until 3 pm before being able to
go out on the track. To help pass the time, the World Champion
turned to football, helping a team of mechanics to beat the
engineer's side by 4 goals to 2.
Once the track had dried, the German driver was able to start
work on the scheduled development programme of new mechanical
parts for the F 310. Schumacher completed a total of 26 laps
setting a fastest time of 1m 28.45s.
A welcome guest visited the team in the afternoon. Alberto Tomba
the Olympic skiing champion and Ferrari owner had previously
expressed the desire to meet the F1 World Champion and the Imola
test provided a suitable occasion for their meeting.
Testing continues tomorrow with the completion of today's
interrupted programme, while the first test of the new raised
nose will follow on Friday.
auto-moto.316tomislavr,
Zvanicna pravila FIA-e za formulu 1..
f1regs.zipauto-moto.317tomislavr,
Sadrzaj datoteke koja ide uz poruku..
1996 FORMULA ONE TECHNICAL REGULATIONS
SUMMARY
ARTICLE 1 : DEFINITIONS
1.1 Formula One Car
1.2 Automobile
1.3 Land Vehicle
1.4 Bodywork
1.5 Wheel
1.6 Automobile Make
1.7 Event
1.8 Weight
1.9 Racing weight
1.10 Cubic capacity
1.11 Supercharging
1.12 Cockpit
1.13 Sprung suspension
1.14 Survival cell
1.15 On board camera
1.16 Ballast box
1.17 Cockpit padding
ARTICLE 2 : REGULATIONS
2.1 Role of the FIA
2.2 Publication date for amendments
2.3 Dangerous construction
2.4 Compliance with the regulations
2.5 Measurements
2.6 Duty of competitor
ARTICLE 3 : BODYWORK AND DIMENSIONS
3.1 Wheel centre line
3.2 Height measurements
3.3 Overall width
3.4 Width ahead of the rear wheel centre line
3.5 Width behind the rear wheel centre line
3.6 Overall height
3.7 Front bodywork height
3.8 Height in front of the rear wheels
3.9 Height between the rear wheels
3.10 Height behind the rear wheel centre line
3.11 Bodywork around the front wheels
3.12 Bodywork facing the ground
3.13 Overhangs
3.14 Aerodynamic influence
3.15 Upper bodywork
ARTICLE 4 : WEIGHT
4.1 Minimum weight
4.2 Ballast
4.3 Adding during the race
ARTICLE 5 : ENGINE
5.1 Types of engine permitted
5.2 Maximum capacity
5.3 Supercharging
5.4 Number and type of cylinders
5.5 Number of valves
5.6 Temperature of the charge
5.7 Exhaust system
5.8 Engine materials
ARTICLE 6 : PIPING AND FUEL TANKS
6.1 Fuel tanks
6.2 Fittings and piping
6.3 Crushable structure
6.4 Tank fillers
6.5 Refuelling
ARTICLE 7 : OIL SYSTEM
7.1 Location of oil tanks
7.2 Longitudinal location of oil system
7.3 Catch tank
7.4 Transversal location of oil system
7.5 Oil replenishment
ARTICLE 8 : STARTING
8.1 Starting the engine
ARTICLE 9 : TRANSMISSION TO THE WHEELS
9.1 Four wheel drive
9.2 Gear changing
9.3 Gear ratios
9.4 Reverse gear
9.5 Propulsion
9.6 Clutch disengagement
ARTICLE 10 : SUSPENSION
10.1 Sprung suspension
10.2 Chromium plating
10.3 Suspension geometry
10.4 Steering
10.5 Suspension strength
ARTICLE 11 : BRAKES
11.1 Separate circuits
11.2 Air ducts
11.3 Brake pressure modulation
ARTICLE 12 : WHEELS AND TYRES
12.1 Location
12.2 Dimensions
12.3 Number of wheels
12.4 Wheel material
ARTICLE 13 : COCKPIT
13.1 Cockpit opening
13.2 Steering wheel
13.3 Internal cross section
ARTICLE 14 : SAFETY EQUIPMENT
14.1 Fire extinguishers
14.2 Master switch
14.3 Rear view mirrors
14.4 Safety belts
14.5 Rear light
14.6 Headrest
14.7 Wheel retention
14.8 Data acquisition systems
ARTICLE 15 : SAFETY STRUCTURES
15.1 Magnesium sheet
15.2 Rollover structures
15.3 Structure behind the driver
15.4 Survival cell and frontal protection
ARTICLE 16 : FUEL
16.1 Physical properties
16.2 Air
16.3 Safety
16.4 Meaning of petrol
16.5 Purpose of Article 16
16.6 Sampling
16.7 Fuel approval
ARTICLE 17 : TELEVISION CAMERAS
17.1 Presence of a camera or ballast
17.2 Location of ballast
17.3 Location of camera and equipment
ARTICLE 18 : FINAL TEXT
ARTICLE 19 : CHANGES FOR 1997
19.1 Changes to Article 15.4.6
19.2 Addition to Article 15.4
ARTICLE 20 : CHANGES FOR 1998
20.1) Changes to Article 13.1
20.2) Changes to Article 13.3
20.3) Changes to Article 15.4.4
f1techs.zipauto-moto.318tomislavr,
A sta u McLaren-u kazu za Barselonu..
Spanish Grands Prix
Monaco and Barcelona are relatively close geographically, but
they could not offer a more contrasted atmosphere to a Formula
One race. For Round Seven of the FIA Formula One World
Championship, the glitz and glamour of Monte-Carlo will be
replaced by the intensity of the heat and of the Spaniards'
temperament, in a city rejuvenated by the hosting of the 1992
Olympic games. But for Marlboro McLaren Mercedes drivers Mika
Hakkinen and David Coulthard, the Marlboro Grand Prix of
Barcelona simply represents another opportunity to perform at
the highest level of their ability.
The 4.727km-long Circuit of Catalunya, situated 30km to the
north-east of Barcelona, is where David Coulthard made his Grand
Prix debut two years ago. Having qualified ninth, he immediately
showed his "getaway" talent by overtaking three cars at the
start to reach sixth place. He retired later on in the race, but
had already demonstrated the promise and professionalism that
Marlboro McLaren Mercedes is now benefiting from.
"Obviously, the Barcelona circuit is a special venue for me as
this is where I graduated to Formula One", explains David, "but
we always try to do our best at every race and on every track.
On current form, we'll aim for a podium finish again."
Meanwhile, Mika Hakkinen, who likes the mixture of sweeping
corners and long straights which characterise this circuit, will
be keen to put the last few weeks' misfortunes behind him and
emulate his team mate's recent results.
Last week's test at Silverstone has enabled the team to
determine the car configuration for this race - which will not
include the mid-ship wing at this higher speed circuit - and to
continue the development of both chassis and engine.
For the first time since the Grand Prix has been held in
Barcelona, all tickets for the race have been sold - a statistic
which stands as testimony to the current popularity of Formula
One worldwide.
auto-moto.319kcurcic,
Tests at Imola, Barcelona and Silverstone
Thursday June 6, 1996
Imola (Italy)
Michael Schumacher carried out more development work on the F310
under the watchful eye of Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo and Gianni
Agnelli. Schumacher tested a new high nose design and came to a best of
1:28.212.
Barcelona (Spain)
Boullion was the only driver testing for Williams-Renault today and he
did a performed well, he topped the times with a 1:23.00. Prost was second
in the McLaren-Mercedes with 1:24.47. Herbert, who is getting the tests
now he wanted, was third with 1:24.62.
Silverstone (England)
Brundle was again looking strong in his Jordan-Peugeot with the
fastest time of the day two days in a row (1:28.99). Alesi and Berger were
second and third in the Benetton-Renault's.
New name for Forti
Friday June 7, 1996
Forti Corse will bare a new name starting from the Grand Prix of Canada.
The team will be called Forti Shannon. The Shannon Racing Team now holds
51% of the Forti stock. Andrea Montermini and Luca Badoer will remain to
be the drivers for the new team.
Provided by: Carlos Lefebre Franco from the Netherlands
auto-moto.320tomislavr,
Da li je neko video taj Ferrari 310 sa dignutim nosem? Da li je
"nos" slican Benetonovom ili je Barnard probio ideju da "nos"
bude na jednom nosacu.
auto-moto.321supers,
Kako stojimo ove godine sa odlaskom na Hungaroring?
Jako bih voleo da izbegnem ove paket-aranžmane koji gule
za po par stotina Nemica... Dakle, kako do karata?
Kupiti ih neposredno pre trke, ili je takva pomisao suluda
(ne znam da li je više karata ili posetilaca)?
F1 fanovi, posavetujte.
auto-moto.322tomislavr,
Testiranje novog Ferarija sa dignutim "nosem":
First test for new nose
Imola, 7th June - This was Ferrari's last day of testing prior
to the Canadian Grand Prix, scheduled for 15th June in Montreal.
Today's programme for Michael Schumacher included the first run
for the car fitted with a high nose. In the morning the German
driver drove with the car in its usual configuration to acquire
the necessary data to compare with the new aerodynamic
solutions. His best time was 1m 28.66s. In the afternoon with
higher ambient and track temperatures, Schumacher drove with the
new front wing setting a fractionally slower time of 1m 28.88s.
The World Champion completed a total of 46 laps. This was purely
an initial test to check the car's handling. It showed up many
differences with the standard car. Work was also carried out in
order to find the best set-up. Everything needed to fit out one
F310 with the new nose will be taken to Montreal, where a
decision will be made about using it in practice and the race.
At the same time at Fiorano, Eddie Irvine carried out the
shakedown test of the three Canadian Grand Prix cars.
auto-moto.323tomislavr,
Irvine tests new nose at Mugello
Mugello, 11th June, - In conditions made difficult because of
the intense heat (the track temperature reached as high as 62
degrees) Eddie Irvine carried out the final day of testing at
Mugello before the Canadian Grand Prix, to be held this Sunday
on the Gilles Villeneuve Circuit in Montreal. Irvine completed a
total of 54 laps. The Irishman tried the new front wing and was
favourably impressed with it. Running the car with the high
nose, Irvine set the best time of the day in 1m 29.58s,
approximately three tenths under the time set in the standard
specification F310.
Additionally, Irvine also worked on the clutch, obtaining
positive results from some new solutions, which however, will
not be available for the next race.
auto-moto.324tomislavr,
The FIA also announced the provisional Grand Prix calendar for next year:
* March 2: Australia
* March 23: Brazil
* April 6: Argentina
* April 27: San Marino
* May 11: Monaco
* May 25: Spain
* June 15: Canada
* June 29: France
* July 13: Britain
* July 27: Germany
* August 24: Belgium
* September 7: Italy
* October 19: Japan
-Some dates have yet to be announced-
auto-moto.325space.ace,
--> Kako stojimo ove godine sa odlaskom na Hungaroring?
Ja planiram da idem na trku sa DAMON navijačima iz Čačka i okoline.
--> Jako bih voleo da izbegnem ove paket-aranžmane koji gule
Pošto ja organizujem, gledam da mi ne izađe skupo, i zovem dosta
ljudi, da bi bio jeftiniji prevoz, jer planiram da idem kombijem,
i posle trke na Blatno jezero, čisto da vidimo da li može da se
kupa :)
Inače karte ne bi trebalo da su skupe, oko 50-75 DM, možda i jeftinije.
Ali treba paziti, imaju dileri koji prodaju po 30tak maraka karte, koje
vrlo lepo izgledaju, ali ... nisu prave :)
E, sad da vas razočaram na kraju ove lepe priče; nema mesta :). Kombi
je velik, ali može da stane samo 8 ljudi, koliko nas i ide :)
Ali, pošto ste tako dobri, možda ću vam poslati koju fotografijicu sa
Damon Hill-om, možda čak i Schumacherovu, za tomislavr-a ;)
Pozdrav sPa
auto-moto.326supers,
>> Inače karte ne bi trebalo da su skupe, oko 50-75 DM, možda i jeftinije.
Uuups, pa to i nije za đabe. Bilo bi dobro da neko sazna tačnu cenu,
jer na primer 75 DM nije isto što i 50 DM, nego upola više...
auto-moto.327kcurcic,
Obzirom da je Gale Force servis nešto propao, samo
najbitnije sa kvalifikacija: Hill, Villeneuve, Schumacher,
i dalje se ne sećam O:)
Uz ovo je prikačena i slika staze u Kanadi.
montreal.jpgauto-moto.328kcurcic,
> Uuups, pa to i nije za đabe. Bilo bi dobro da neko sazna tačnu cenu,
> jer na primer 75 DM nije isto što i 50 DM, nego upola više...
Podaci od pre dve godine: kartu smo kupili na poslednjoj stanici
metroa u Budimpešti (jer se do same staze ide prigradskim vozom) i
platili smo je oko 15 dem. To su bile najjeftinije karte (za brdo :)),
ali su omogućavale pogled ne mnogo lošiji nego sa bronzanih tribina.
Prošle godine jedan moj prijatelj je bio, tako da ću podatke od prošle
godine zakačiti kad ga nađem. Inače, mislim da karte nema potrebe
kupovati ranije, jer ih je uvek ostajalo oho-ho. Ukoliko nekoga interesuje
još nešto, neka pita. Možda i budem znao :)
auto-moto.329vimm,
A evo i kompletnih rezultata zvaničnog treninga u Montrealu:
Canadian Grand Prix: Qualifying
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--- [Session Resume] --- [Track Times] ---
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Session Resume:
Weather: 25 deg C air temp, 35 deg C track temp
Time Event
3m Fisicella first car on track
7m Pole - Fisichella 1m 24.283s
11m Second car out is Lamy
14m 2nd - Lamy 1m 24.555s
16m Lamy improves his 2nd to 1m 24.512s
17m Montemini completes a fast lap
blowing lots of smoke 1m 26.109s
18m No cars on track
19m Salo on track
21m Pole - Salo 1m 23.843s
23m Pole - Salo 1m 23.441s
23m Villeneuve, Schumacher on track
25m Schumcher back into pits after 1 lap,
Villeneuve runs a fast lap
26m Pole - Villeneuve 1m 21.735s
27m Pole - Villeneuve 1m 21.196s
27m 3rd - Barrichello 1m 22.911s
27m Pos: Villeneuve, Coulthard, Barrichello
29m 2nd - Barrichello 1m 21.982s
29m Villeneuve back into pits, Schumacher on track
32m 2nd - Alesi 1m 21.966s
32m 2nd - Irvine 1m 21.657s
33m 2nd - Schumacher 1m 21.535s
34m 2nd - Schumacher 1m 21.198s (pole +0.002s)
trapped behind Brundle on a fast lap
34m Pos: Villenueve, Schumacher, Alesi, Irvine
36m Hakkinen 7th, Coulthard 8th
36m Hill on track - first lap puts him 6th
38m 5th - Hill 1m 21.729s
39m 4th - Hill 1m 21.546s
40m Hill runs a 6th lap (!) on the same tyres but does not improve
41m Hill back into pits, Alesi goes onto track
41m Berger currently 9th
43m Alesi (3) - heavy sideways crash into tyres on an escape road
43m SESSION STOPPED
52m SESSION STARTS AGAIN
52m Brundle and Hakkinen first out
53m Schumacher on track
56m Schumacher back into pits, misses the weigh bridge and
has to be rolled back
56m Villeneuve on track
58m Villeneuve 1m 21.491s
59m Villeneuve at pole +0.004s at the last split time
but heads back into pits
59m Schumacher back on track
59m Pos: Villenueve, Schumacher, Alesi, Hill, Irvine, Barrichello
63m Hill on track
64m 13 cars on track
65m 3rd - Hill 1m 21.235s
65m Pole - Villeneuve 1m 21.079s
66m 6th - Hakkinen
66m Pole - Hill 1m 21.059s
67m 7th - Berger 1m 21.926s
68m Berger off into tyre wall near where Alesi went off
Badoer drives off onto grass and retires
69m SESSION STOPPED due to Bergers car (out of car ok)
with 50s of session left
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free
1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos
Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 21.059s 2 1m 21.150s 4 1m 22.958s 0
0m 0.000s
2 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 21.079s 1 1m 21.037s 8 1m 23.546s 0
0m 0.000s
3 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 21.198s 3 1m 21.465s 3 1m 22.906s 0
0m 0.000s
4 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 21.529s 5 1m 21.585s 1 1m 22.498s 0
0m 0.000s
5 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 21.657s 6 1m 21.640s 6 1m 23.148s 0
0m 0.000s
6 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 21.807s 4 1m 21.519s 11 1m 23.943s 0
0m 0.000s
7 G.Berger Benetton 1m 21.926s 7 1m 21.667s 2 1m 22.570s 0
0m 0.000s
8 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 21.982s 9 1m 21.830s 5 1m 23.026s 0
0m 0.000s
9 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 22.321s 10 1m 21.960s 7 1m 23.208s 0
0m 0.000s
10 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 22.332s 8 1m 21.820s 10 1m 23.931s 0
0m 0.000s
11 O.Panis Ligier 1m 22.481s 11 1m 22.238s 9 1m 23.906s 0
0m 0.000s
12 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 22.875s 12 1m 22.417s 12 1m 24.201s 0
0m 0.000s
13 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 23.067s 15 1m 23.224s 17 1m 24.799s 0
0m 0.000s
14 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 23.118s 14 1m 23.193s 21 1m 26.595s 0
0m 0.000s
15 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 23.201s 16 1m 23.351s 14 1m 24.427s 0
0m 0.000s
16 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 23.519s 17 1m 24.322s 13 1m 24.264s 0
0m 0.000s
17 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 23.599s 13 1m 22.985s 18 1m 25.062s 0
0m 0.000s
18 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 23.959s 18 1m 24.469s 16 1m 24.701s 0
0m 0.000s
19 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 24.262s 22 1m 25.469s 15 1m 24.639s 0
0m 0.000s
20 L.Badoer Forti 1m 25.012s 19 1m 25.027s 19 1m 25.668s 0
0m 0.000s
21 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 25.193s 20 1m 25.095s 22 1m 27.301s 0
0m 0.000s
22 A.Montermini Forti 1m 26.109s 21 1m 25.161s 20 1m 25.815s 0
0m 0.000s
---- 107% ---- 1m 26.733s
------------------------------------------------------------------------
GALE FORCE F1 - the fastest results service on the Internet.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.330wiper,
e sad ste me svi razocarali.
Trka je bila juce a niko jos da ne ostavio par plasmane.
Covek ode iz Beograda u unutrasnjost na dan-dva ne odgleda trka
nada se da ce procitati sta je bilo a ono samo 3 poruke
ovde stvarno nedostaje vpoznanovic
auto-moto.331cdragan,
> e sad ste me svi razocarali.
> Trka je bila juce a niko jos da ne ostavio par plasmane.
>
> Covek ode iz Beograda u unutrasnjost na dan-dva ne odgleda tr
> nada se da ce procitati sta je bilo a ono samo 3 poruke
Pa leto je ... malo se ide na Adu a malko se šetka po Internetu i
tako to pa se na drugo i zaboravlja ... ;)
Canadian Grand Prix 96: The Result
--- [Race Resume] --- [Race Times] ---
Race Resume:
Weather: Bright, sunny
Lap Event
0 Grid Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) E.Irvine (6) M.Hakkinen
0 Disaster - Schumacher stalls at start of warm up
0 Schumacher starts from the back of the grid
1 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) E.Irvine
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) G.Berger
1 Schumacher in 17th
2 Irvine has a problem and stops
2 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
2 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 24.697s
3 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->3.354s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->0.889s->(3) J.Alesi->2.070s->(4) M.Hakkinen
->0.617s->(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
3 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 24.201s
5 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 23.748s
7 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Brundle (6) M.Hakkinen
7 Big shunt as Katayama hits Rosset just after pit entrance
both cars out
8 Schumacher up to 14th
9 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->5.071s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->1.584s->(3) J.Alesi->2.931s->(4) G.Berger
->2.364s->(5) M.Brundle->2.262s->(6) M.Hakkinen
11 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 23.255s
11 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Brundle (6) R.Barrichello
12 Schumacher up to 13th
12 Schumacher (13) is 29s behind Hill (1)
13 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.948s
14 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.903s
14 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Brundle (6) R.Barrichello
15 Coulthard in 9th
16 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->6.751s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->4.858s->(3) J.Alesi->1.641s->(4) G.Berger
->3.899s->(5) M.Brundle->4.837s->(6) R.Barrichello
16 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 22.857s
18 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.775s
19 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.676s
19 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->7.022s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->7.656s->(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Brundle (6) R.Barrichello
20 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.412s
21 Pits: Barrichello 11.0s
21 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi->0.618s->(4) G.Berger
->1.265s->(5) M.Brundle
22 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
->1.039s->(5) M.Brundle
22 Pits: Barrichello back in with a problem
24 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Brundle (6) M.Hakkinen
24 Pits: Panis 10.0s
24 Pits: Barrichello back in and retires
25 Pits: Brundle 9.6s
26 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.396s
26 Schumacher up to 9th
28 Pits: Hill 9.4s
28 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->5.047s->(2) D.Hill
->8.301s->(3) J.Alesi->0.902s->(4) G.Berger
->14.804s->(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
29 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->6.991s->(2) D.Hill
->6.627s->(3) J.Alesi->1.136s->(4) G.Berger
->15.269s->(5) M.Hakkinen->1.249s->(6) D.Coulthard
29 14 cars left on track
31 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 22.353s
31 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.266s
31 Schumacher is running 1m 26s laps
32 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.224s
32 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->7.016s->(2) D.Hill
->8.984s->(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
34 Brundle 7th, Herbert 8th, Schumacher 9th
35 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 22.110s
35 Pits: Berger 11.9s
36 Pits: Villeneuve 11.5s
36 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 21.957s
36 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Alesi
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
36 Pits: Herbert 11.2s
36 Pits: Alesi 12.0s
36 Hakkinen spins on track but keeps going
37 Pits: Hakkinen 10.9s
38 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
38 Schumacher up to 7th
39 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->20.262s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->15.435s->(3) D.Coulthard->3.003s->(4) J.Alesi
->4.384s->(5) G.Berger->1.569s->(6) M.Brundle
39 Panis takes Schumacher (in trouble !)
40 Salo out with a blown engine
40 Hakkinen chasing and catching Schumacher
40 Pits: Coulthard
41 Pits: Schumacher 12.4s
41 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
41 Bits fall off Schumacher's car as he leaves the pits
42 Schumacher retires
43 Berger spins and retires
44 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Brundle
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Hakkinen
45 Schumacher drops back to 12th (last)
45 Pits: Brundle 11.3s
45 Lamy slides into Brundle, Lamy retires
46 Pits: Brundle - new nose 21.3s
49 8 cars left
49 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->28.390s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) J.Herbert
49 7th Brundle, 8th Fisichella
50 Pits: Hill 8.6s
50 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->13.661s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->21.886s->(3) J.Alesi->18.580s->(4) D.Coulthard
->24.487s->(5) M.Hakkinen (6) J.Herbert
51 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->11.061s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) J.Herbert
54 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->11.008s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->22.803s->(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
55 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->9.385s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
56 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->9.254s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
57 Hill stuck behind Hakkinen
57 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->9.173s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
57 Hill laps Hakkinen
58 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.815s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
58 7th Herbert, 8th Fisichella
59 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.373s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
61 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.131s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
62 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.148s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
63 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.689s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
64 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.909s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
65 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->9.134s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
67 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 21.916s
67 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->8.600s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->44.000s->(3) J.Alesi->11.800s->(4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
68 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->6.855s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Coulthard
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) M.Brundle
69 Hill wins, Villeneuve 2nd
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1hr 36m 3.465s (69 Laps)
(Pole Position)
2 J.Villeneuve Williams Gap 0m 4.183s
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 21.916s)
3 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 0m 54.656s
4 D.Coulthard McLaren Gap 1m 3.673s
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren Laps behind: 1
6 M.Brundle Jordan Laps behind: 1
7 J.Herbert Sauber Laps behind: 1
8 G.Fisichella Minardi Laps behind: 2
Retirements:
L.Badoer Forti On Lap: 45 Reason:
P.Lamy Minardi On Lap: 45 Reason:
G.Berger Benetton On Lap: 43 Reason:
M.Schumacher Ferrari On Lap: 42 Reason:
M.Salo Tyrrell On Lap: 40 Reason:
O.Panis Ligier On Lap: 40 Reason:
P.Diniz Ligier On Lap: 39 Reason:
A.Montermini Forti On Lap: 23 Reason:
R.Barrichello Jordan On Lap: 23 Reason:
H.Frentzen Sauber On Lap: 20 Reason:
J.Verstappen Footwork On Lap: 11 Reason:
U.Katayama Tyrrell On Lap: 7 Reason:
R.Rosset Footwork On Lap: 7 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari On Lap: 2 Reason:
auto-moto.332kcurcic,
F1: Canadian GP winners' press conference
David Goodwin
home, feet up
Tue Jun 18 11:09:12 EDT 1996
Q Well, Damon your first win in Canada and after the last
two races you must be absolutely delighted to have won
here today?
DH I am completely delighted. It was a great race. It was
very important for me to do well here because I've had
two non finishes and Jacques is right behind me in the
championship and he was motivated this weekend, he put
pressure on me the whole way and of course we have
Michael, but he dropped out early, but it was a tough
race right from the word go. We had to go flat every lap,
but I thoroughly enjoyed it and I'm really, really
pleased to have won.
Q You stopped twice while Jacques only stopped once. What
was the sort of strategy behind that?
DH Well we looked at it and it looked quicker, but it was
always going to be close because there's never been more
than a cigarette paper's width between us all weekend.
Q Jacques, you were pushing very hard there at the end and
with your home crowd behind you, did you think you could
have caught Damon at all?
JV Well I knew he was very far ahead but I kept on pushing
just in case he had some back markers or made a mistake
and I could get very close to him because he wasn't far
enough in the front for me to just lift, so I kept
pushing and the track was better at the end anyway and
the car was handling really well.
Q At one point I think we saw you lap Johnny Herbert and
then he retake his position. Did you have any sort of
problem?
JV Yeah, I saw the yellow flags. I wasn't sure, so I just
let him take the position back. It was better to do that
than to get a 'stop and go' after.
Q On reflection would you have preferred maybe to have gone
for the two stop strategy?
JV No, I think the one stop was pretty good. It was very
close at the end. I wasn't quick enough on the opening
laps. I was saving the brakes because I thought they were
going to go away but actually I could have pushed and
they wouldn't have gone away.
Q Jean, you were a winner here last year and after a good
fight with Gerhard Berger, you must be very happy to be
on the podium?
JA Yes, of course. Our team make a good effort to give us a
better car. On Saturday I had a huge crash because of
brake failure. I was a bit worried this morning because
I was full of pain but actually the third place is
perfect for me, for the moment.
Q You've been second twice this season and third position
twice this season. Can we expect a victory in the near
future?
JA Of course I am looking for a win quite quickly, but I
have great friends (points to DH and JV), I have to fight
a lot and it's like that for the moment. I have a very
good team working hard and I believe it can happen.
Q Well Damon, we're half way through the season, you're 21
points ahead and you've got five victories out of eight
races. What can we expect at Magny Cours and beyond?
DH I'm looking forward to the last part of the championship,
or the next half. It's going to be very, very tight and I
expect a lot of challenges between now and the end of the
season but I'm really, really pleased for the moment to
have won in Canada and put myself back on target and
back on track.
--
David Goodwin
auto-moto.333kcurcic,
F1: Katayama receives suspended ban
Canadian GP
16 June, 1996
Stewards' decision number 4
Having received a report from the Race Director that U. Katayama, the
driver of Car no. 18, failed to drive with due care and attention;
having heard the Race Director; the Clerk of the Course; having heard
the explanation of the driver U. Katayama and the team representative
S. Neilson; and having reviewed the video evidence, the Stewards of
the Meeting find driver U. Katayama guilty of a breach of the FIA
Formula One World Championship Sporting Regulations in that he caused an
avoidable collision with Car no. 16 (driver R. Rosset) at approximately
13:16.
The Stewards of the Meeting therefore impose on driver U. Katayama a
one-race ban, suspended for two races, effective immediately.
The competitor is reminded of his right of appeal.
auto-moto.334kcurcic,
F1: Canadian GP McLaren notes
Canadian Grand Prix
16th June 1996
Both Marlboro McLaren Mercedes drivers finished the Canadian Grand Prix
in the top six, bringing five points to the team's championship tally.
David Coulthard drove steadily to fourth place whilst Mika Hakkinen
recovered from a mid-race spin to take the chequered flag in fifth
place. The team used a one stop strategy which resulted in David and
Mika initially losing ground to the cars which had opted for a two
stops race and were therefore carrying less fuel. The strategy
eventually paid off with David and Mika being able to overtake them
during their stops and to produce competitive performances in the
latter part of the race, as their own fuel load decreased.
Mika Hakkinen: "I had a clean start, ending up in fourth place after a
very good and enjoyable battle with Gerhard Berger. Unfortunately my
speed in the straight was not high enough for me to maintain that
position, and I lost out to both Jordans and one of the Benettons.
Then I came up to a back marker at the hairpin, locked the rear tyres
and lost the back end of the car. I went in for tyres immediately
after that and ran competitively to fifth, scoring two points for the
team.
David Coulthard: "It was good to get fourth place out of a bad
qualifying position. The car ran well, especially as the fuel load
came down, which was all credit to the team and in particualr to the
mechanics who did a great job changing the engine after the warm-up.
We've had a few points finishes now and are showing that the team's
reliability is getting better."
Norbert Haug: "Getting five points is a good team effort, thanks to
both of our drivers. We are increasing our reliability and, more
importantly, we are setting better lap times. Mika and David were
approximately one second shy of Jacques Villeneuve's fastest lap. We
now have to work even harder to close the gap to the dominating
Williams."
Ron Dennis: "We had a reliable race with both cars. The drivers
struggled with the initial high fuel load as a result of our one
pitstop strategy, but once the cars had become lighter our performance
significantly improved, giving us the ability to lap as fast as
everybody except the Williams. All the teams have got a lot of work to
do to match their performance, but I hope we can achieve it before the
end of the year. David did an excellent job. Mika's performance was
also good apart from his indiscretion at the hairpin."
auto-moto.335tomislavr,
Posle zadnje trke izgleda da je jasno ko ce biti sampion ove
sezone. Nazalost, to je test vozac cije ime ne zelim da
spominjem ;)
Zaista je tuzno sto Sumaher nema ni sansu da se bori za titulu.
Ferrari je pokazao da jos uvek moze da iznenadi sa novim
bolidom. Ko god je mislio da Ferrari ne moze da napravi vecu
gresku od one koju je vec napravio, grdno se prevario - sad im i
delovi otpadaju :(
No, nada umire zadnja. :)
U sledecih nekoliko poruka idu prilozi sa Kanadskog Grand Prix-a
od nekoliko timova. Izvinjavam se na duzini poruka...
auto-moto.336tomislavr,
Benetton Team Release
Race / Sunday 16th June 1996
Chassis Numbers:
Car No.3 - Jean Alesi - Mild Seven Benetton Renault B196 03
Car No.4 - Gerhard Berger - Mild Seven Benetton Renault B196 04
JEAN ALESI : 3rd
"In the beginning I had some trouble with the rear tyres and I
slowed a bit, but the second set were a lot better. I was not
worried about Gerhard behind me as I was always careful going
into the hairpin. After my crash in qualifying I was in pain
everywhere, but I didn't feel anything in the race as I was so
busy. Today's third place is not too bad."
GERHARD BERGER : retired on Lap 27
"Unfortunately it was my mistake. I was trying to catch up with
Jean and brake too late, lost the car and spun. It is
disappointing because I had a good start and the car was
performing very well. I now have to put this out of my mind and
think positively for Magny Cours."
BERNARD DUDOT (Technical Director of Renault Sport) :
"We did not have the slightest problem today. Jean Alesi's third
place on the podium has given a Renault hatrick, and
demonstrates Renault's superiority on the motor circuit. In
today's normal grip conditions, Renault has re-establish its
leading position."
Tyrrell
Team Release
Race / Sunday 16th June 1996
Starting from 14th position on the grid, Mika Salo drove a
strong first half of the race. He was running 10th on lap 25
before the first of his two planned pit stops. Mika rejoined the
race 12th and was back to 10th place on lap 40 when he had an
engine problem.
Ukyo Katayama suffered an early retirement on lap 6. He overtook
Ricardo Rosset at the last chicane but the Brazilian hit the
back of the Tyrrell and broke the rear suspension.
Mika Salo: "I had to start with the spare car because the race
engine had a water leak. I made a good start but I was quickly
stuck behind Johnny Herbert. However I had no problem to keep
Michael Schumacher at bay until my first pit stop. The boys made
an excellent job with a 7.5 seconds stop. Fifteen laps later the
engine went. It's a shame because it was a race to score more
points."
Ukyo Katayama: "I had a problem at the start with the clutch and
the engine nearly stalled. I lost some places and was stuck
behind Rosset who was slower than me. I overtook him at the last
chicane but he closed the door and hit me from behind very hard.
I spoke with him after the accident and he said he did not see
me."
Harvey Postlethwaite, Managing Director - Engineering: "After a
difficult start to the weekend, we had hoped for a reliable day.
Unfortunately it did not happen. We have to work harder than
ever to get back the reliability we had last year and at the
beginning of the season."
Yoshiaki Takeda, Yamaha F1 Project Manager: "We are obviously
frustrated as technical problems dominated our weekend. Mika had
to take the spare car because of a suspected water leak in his
race car and then had to retire because of an engine failure. We
are waiting for the car to come back to find out the problem."
auto-moto.337tomislavr,
Neko je pitao za stanje na "tabeli":
Formula 1 Tables 1996
Most tables calculated up to and including the Canadian Grand Prix.
Drivers Championship Constructors Championship
Laps in the Lead (By Driver) Laps in the Lead (By Team)
Most pole positions (By Driver) Most pole positions (By Team)
Race Laps Completed (By Driver) Race Laps Completed (By Team)
Number of Fastest Laps (By Driver) Number of Fastest Laps (By Team)
Most Retirements (By Driver) Most Retirements (By Team)
Most Crashes (By Driver) Most Crashes (By Team)
Most Car Failures (By Driver) Most Car Failures (By Team)
Most Spin-Offs (By Driver) Most Spin-Offs (By Team)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
Calculations include the Canadian Grand Prix.
1 D.Hill 53
2 J.Villeneuve 32
3 M.Schumacher 26
4 J.Alesi 21
5 D.Coulthard 13
6 O.Panis 11
7 M.Hakkinen 10
8 E.Irvine 9
9 R.Barrichello 7
G.Berger 7
11 H.Frentzen 6
12 M.Salo 5
13 J.Herbert 4
14 M.Brundle 2
15 J.Verstappen 1
P.Diniz 1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
Calculations include the Canadian Grand Prix.
1 Williams 85
2 Ferrari 35
3 Benetton 28
4 McLaren 23
5 Ligier 12
6 Sauber 10
7 Jordan 9
8 Tyrrell 5
9 Footwork 1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most pole positions by Driver
Calculations include the Canadian Grand Prix.
1 D.Hill 5
2 M.Schumacher 2
3 J.Villeneuve 1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of Fastest Laps by Driver
Calculations include the Canadian Grand Prix.
1 D.Hill 3
2 J.Alesi 2
J.Villeneuve 2
4 M.Schumacher 1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most Retirements by Team
Calculations include the Spanish Grand Prix.
1 Footwork 11
2 Jordan 10
Minardi 10
Tyrrell 10
5 Sauber 8
6 Benetton 7
7 McLaren 6
Ferrari 6
9 Ligier 5
Williams 5
11 Forti 3
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most Crashes by Driver
Calculations include the Spanish Grand Prix.
1 R.Rosset 3
2 L.Badoer 2
J.Alesi 2
O.Panis 2
E.Irvine 2
6 T.Marques 1
J.Herbert 1
M.Brundle 1
D.Coulthard 1
G.Fisichella 1
P.Lamy 1
M.Salo 1
M.Hakkinen 1
J.Villeneuve 1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most Crashes by Team
Calculations include the Spanish Grand Prix.
1 Minardi 3
Footwork 3
3 Forti 2
Ligier 2
McLaren 2
Benetton 2
Ferrari 2
8 Jordan 1
Sauber 1
Tyrrell 1
Williams 1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most Car Failures by Team
Calculations include the Spanish Grand Prix.
1 Footwork 5
Sauber 5
Tyrrell 5
4 Minardi 4
Benetton 4
6 Jordan 3
McLaren 3
8 Ligier 2
Ferrari 2
Williams 2
auto-moto.338tomislavr,
Williams
June 16, 1996
Montreal, Canada
HILL SECURES FIFTH GRAND
PRIX VICTORY OF SEASON
After his recent disappointments British Driver Damon Hill
bounced back to top form to dominate the 69 lap Canadian Grand
Prix in Montreal. Hill, driving the Rothmans Williams Renault,
started from pole position for this eighth round of the Formula
One World Championship, around the Gilles Villeneuve circuit,
and at the finish held a 4.183 second lead over his team-mate
and local hero, Jacques Villeneuve. Hill, who made two pit stops
and Villeneuve only one, leads his team-mate at the half way
stage in the championship by an impressive 21 points.
"It was so important to do well here after my two non finishes,"
said a delighted Hill after his 18th grand prix victory.
"Jacques is right behind me in the championship and as you would
expect he was motivated all weekend which put the pressure on me
the whole way. It was a tough race right from the word go and
especially as we had gone for the two stop strategy. It was
always going to be close because there has never been more than
a cigarette paper's width between us all weekend."
There were only eight finishers in the race with Frenchman Jean
Alesi in third place driving the Renault powered Benetton, in
front of the McLaren Mercedes duo of David Coulthard and Mika
Hakkinen. British driver Martin Brundle, making his 150th grand
prix appearance, driving the Jordan Peugeot, completed the
points scorers in sixth place in the race which proved a
disaster for World Champion Michael Schumacher. The German,
despite qualifying in third place, was forced to start from the
back of the grid after he could not start his Ferrari at the
beginning of the formation lap. Despite a collision with
Frenchman Olivier Panis he was battling for seventh place when
he called in for his first pit stop on lap 40. As he raced back
onto the circuit his Ferrari broke a drive shaft. His team-mate
Eddie Irvine fared no better and retired on the second lap while
lying in fourth place with a suspension problem.
Hill led from pole position and the only time he was headed in
the race was when he made his first pit stop and Villeneuve took
over, albeit temporarily, until he made his one and only stop.
Alesi held on to a rather lonely third place but his team-mate
Gerhard Berger spun out of fourth spot on lap 43. Brazilian
Rubens Barrichello was battling for points when he was forced to
retired with a clutch problem with his Jordan Peugeot. His
team-mate Brundle did not have a smooth ride into sixth place.
He had to fit a new nose cone after a collision with the Minardi
of Pedro Lamy, who was forced to retire. Hakkinen also had his
problems on route to fifth place which he achieved despite a
spin around half distance.
At the finish the record 101, 000 Canadian crowd saluted their
new super hero Villeneuve who let Hill gain a vital advantage on
the very first lap. "I wasn't quick enough on that opening lap
because I was trying to save my brakes," explained Villeneuve
who is now six points in front of third placed Schumacher in the
title chase. "I think the one stop was pretty good and it was
close at the end I just kept pushing hard."
Jordan Peugeot
Martin Brundle celebrated his 150th Grand Prix by scoring a
World Championship point for the Benson & Hedges Total Jordan
Peugeot team, the British driver achieving the result despite
pitting on no fewer than three occasions. Starting from 9th
place on the grid, he made a superb start, rising to 6th place
by the end of the first lap. He was running to a two-stop
strategy, but after the second stop he tangled with Pedro Lamy's
Minardi at the first corner and was forced to make a third stop
- this time for a new nose section. He was able to over take
Johnny Herbert's Sauber on lap 52 and ran unchallenged to finish
sixth. "The car was perfect throughout the race. We opted for
two pit stops and I stand by that decision, it was the right way
to go for our car although one stop suited others. It was a pity
about the collision with Lamy. I thought he had given me the
corner, but he closed down the gap and we touched. I am glad to
have finished in the points, but that accident caused me 5th
place at least." Rubens Barrichello had a clutch problem from
the start of the race and this eventually caused his retirement
on lap 23. The team tried to cure the clutch problem when he
made his first pit stop, but the unit was beyond repair. "I had
the clutch down hard on the grid but, because it took so long
for the lights to change, the car was starting to creep forward
because the clutch was slipping. Quite a few guys overtook me,
but I still had a good first lap. I had a bit of a moment with
Frentzen, but recovered. The clutch was ok for a while, but then
it started to slip again. The set-up had been very good and I
was able to overtake Hakkinen. Then, at the pit stop, the clutch
wa just giving up and we tried one more lap, but it was no
good." Eddie Jordan said : "I am pleased for Martin to get this
result in his 150th GP, although it could have been more.
However, once again it was a disappointing race for Rubens."
Pierre-Michel Fauconnier (Peugeot Sport) said : "As with each
race this season, when the Jordan-Peugeot has finished, it has
finished in the points. Today it was Martin Brundle who brought
us a point after putting in a convincing performance throughout.
This was a very positive aspect of the weekend."
Ferrari
auto-moto.339tomislavr,
Ferrari
Canadian Grand Prix
Press release of 16th June
Monteral, 16th June 1996
It was a black day for Ferrari at the Canadian Grand Prix as
both drivers retired with mechanical failures.
Michael Schumacher's race was particularly troubled. The World
Champion had to start from the back of the grid as at the moment
of setting out on the formation lap it proved very difficult to
start the engine on his F 310.
Schumacher made up a few places in the early stages of the race,
but soon after he was forced to adopt a slower pace preventing
him from pushing on, because of a brake problem. However,
Michael was up to seventh place at the end of lap 41 when he
pitted for the only planned pit-stop. As he went back out onto
the track his car suffered a broken drive shaft and all the
dirver could do was to slowly bring the car back to the pits and
retire.
"This really was a bad day, " said the World Champion. "First,
the fuel pressure was too low which made it difficult to start
the engine. Then the balance of the brakes was inconsistent
front to rear which stopped me from pushing hard. Finally the
drive shaft: the breakage may have been caused by the fact that,
because of a clutch problem, I let the wheels spin too much. I
did not expect so many problems all at the same time, but the
important thing now is not to be discouraged and to continue
working with conviction on the important developments in
progress."
As for Eddie Irvine, his race lasted barely one and a half laps.
Eddie was fourth when the front right pushrod broke on his F
310. "It just went unexpectedly on the straight for no obvious
reason," said the driver. "It is a real blow as the car was
really good and I could easily match Alesi's pace, even though I
had so much fuel on board as I had planned to stop only once."
"It could not have gone worse than it did, " said Sporting
Director Jean Todt. "Our performance in qualifying led us to
expect a good result, however we had an almost unbelievable
series of problems, some of which we have already experienced in
the past.m but Eddie's pushrod and Michael's dirve shaft are
completely new to us. In the heat of the moment it is difficult
to explain. We will look for the reasons in Maranello in order
to find solutions for the future."
auto-moto.340tomislavr,
Ferrari
Canadian Grand Prix
Press release of 15th June
Montreal, 15th June 1996
The Ferraris will start the Canadian Grand Prix from the second
and third rows of the grid. In today's qualifying session
Michael Schumacher set the third fastest time (1m 21.198s) and
Eddie Irvine the fifth (1m 21.657s). The World Champion used the
spare car for almost all the session. After just one lap in his
race car the engine developed an electrical problem. Once he had
tried the spare Michael found it much more to his liking. Both F
310 were fitted with the new front wing which will also be used
in tomorrow's race.
Jean Todt
"Michael might have been able to do better, but as a result of
the two interruptions to the session, he was not even able to
complete all his available laps. He did his time on his first
run, and then he was twice defeated by the red flag. I am happy
for Eddie, who is gaining confidence in the car and who has been
quick and competitive all week-end. I think we have the
potential to be contenders in tomorrow's Grand Prix."
Michael Schumacher
"I am not very satisfied as I feel I could have done a better
time. However I barely had a single trouble-free lap. Even on my
fastest lap I found myself behind Brundle over a long section of
track. Anyway it all looks very close and so I am sure the race
will be very hard fought, especially as the track does not show
up the differences in driving ability. It is simply deceptive as
it is bumpy in the braking areas. The new front wing is a step
forward but it should not be considered as being of profound
importance. It is worth one to two tenths of a second and makes
the car more stable and that is all."
Eddie Irvine
"I have to say it is not bad, even if I set my time on my first
set of tyres. I tried a set-up change before my second run which
proved to be the wrong thing to do. For my third run I went back
to the original settings but the car was not the same. However I
am confident for the race and plan to improve on my grid
position."
auto-moto.341tomislavr,
Ferrari
Canadian Grand Prix
Press release of 14th June
Montreal, 14th June 1996
In today's free practice for the Canadian Grand Prix Michael
Schumacher was third quickest (1m 22.906s) and Eddie Irvine was
sixth (1m 23.148s). The German driver's F 310 was fitted with
the new front wing while the Irishman ran the standard version.
Both Ferrari drivers used only one set of tyres each. In the
first half of today's session Irvine only managed five laps
because of a fuel pump problem.
Jean Todt
"As usual on Friday, we concentrated on working on our race
set-up. For tomorrow's qualifying session Irvine will also have
a high nose available to him."
Michael Schumacher
"With the high nose the car immediately felt better than at
Barcelona. I must make it clear that this new solution cannot
work miracles. However it definetely has advantages in terms of
top speed, aerodynamic downforce and the stability of the car.
It is difficult to find a good balance here as this track is
very bumpy. I predict a very close fight between ourselves, the
Williams and the Benettons in tomorrow's qualifying session. I
am optimistic as I know exactly what we did at Ferrari today in
terms of tyres and fuel and I am pretty sure that not all our
opponents did the same."
Eddie Irvine
"I lost almost half the day but I am reasonably happy with the
work I did with my engineers. Even though my times were
consistently quite good I was never really happy with my set-up.
However by the end of the session we had solved the problems.
The car is well balanced and just needs improvements to the
braking. I am sure that we can even improve this situation a
little bit tomorrow thanks to the fact that I will have the new
front wing."
Chassis numbers
170 Race car, Irvine
171 Race car, Schumacher
169 Spare car
auto-moto.342lexus,
=> bolidom. Ko god je mislio da Ferrari ne moze da napravi vecu
=> gresku od one koju je vec napravio, grdno se prevario - sad im i
=> delovi otpadaju :(
Biće bolje :)
Test vozač će, ionako, pobeći iz F1 na kraju sezone, pošto zna
da sledeće sezone neće imati šanse ;)
auto-moto.343kcurcic,
> sezone. Nazalost, to je test vozac cije ime ne zelim da
> spominjem ;)
Evo ja ću: Dejmon Hil. ;)
auto-moto.344cdragan,
> Zaista je tuzno sto Sumaher nema ni sansu da se bori za titulu.
Pa kad mu je dupe zinulo za parama koje mu je nudio Ferrari ;)
P.S. Da ne bude zabune, da mi ponude da dobijem 20 mil $ i titulu
prvaka i 30 mil $ bez titule, izabrao bih ovo drugo ;)
auto-moto.345schef,
=- P.S. Da ne bude zabune, da mi ponude da dobijem 20 mil $ i
=- titulu prvaka i 30 mil $ bez titule, izabrao bih ovo drugo ;)
Pa i red bi bio da i Hil osvoji jednu titulu... ;)
Srleř
auto-moto.346kcurcic,
Još malo interesantnih informacija. Izvinite na
dužini O:)
F1: Silverstone testing 96-06-21
Silverstone Test
June 19 to 21
1. J-C Boullion France Willims-Renault 1:26.75 (Wed)
2. Mika Hakkinen Finland McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.76 (Fri)
3. Damon Hill Britain Williams-Renault 1:26.91 (Thu)
4. Jacques Villeneuve Canada Williams-Renault 1:27.33 (Fri)
5. Gerhard Berger Austria Benetton-Renault 1:27.45 (Fri)
6. Martin Brundle Britain Jordan-Peugeot 1:28.58 (Wed)
7. Jean Alesi France Benetton-Renault 1:28.86 (Wed)
8. Mika Salo Finland Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:29.42 (Fri)
9. Ukyo Katayama Japan Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:29.62 (Fri)
10. Jos Verstappen N'lnds Footwork-Hart 1:30.37 (Fri)
I još malo interesantnijih informacija - sledi li
Vilijamsu i Benetonu isto što i Meklarenu posle Honde ?
F1: Renault to pull out after `97 season
PARIS, June 20, 1996 - Renault, the French car manufacturer
whose engines have powered Williams and Benetton teams to the
last four constructors' world championships, announced on Thurs-
day they are to withdraw from Formula One at the end of 1997.
Renault made their announcement in Paris where Renault sport
president Patrick Faure confirmed one of Formula One's hottest
rumours of recent weeks.
``The goal the company set itself in 1989 has been largely
surpassed thanks to the know-how and commitment of the Renault
Sport team," Renault said in a statement.
``Renault Sport will continue to operate after 1997 as an
independent unit, run by Christian Contzen and Bernard Dudot."
Renault, which ran its own team between 1977-85, has had a
great influence on Grand Prix racing.
auto-moto.347dusko,
> gresku od one koju je vec napravio, grdno se prevario - sad im
> i delovi otpadaju :(
Koji čobani im voze nije ni čudo :>>>
> No, nada umire zadnja. :)
"Tko živi u nadi - umire izvždan" (c) AF ;)
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.348kcurcic,
F1: Senna-Imola investigation update
ROME, June 26 - An Italian prosecutor has asked for Formula
One team owner Frank Williams to be tried for alleged manslaighter
over the death of world champion driver Ayrton Senna, a source
close to the investigation said today.
The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said public
prosecutor Maurizio Passarini was also seeking trial on the same
charge for technical manager Patrick Head, six other Williams
team officials and two senior officials of the Imola race track
where Senna was killed during the San Marino Grand Prix in 1994.
Passarini, who is based in the central city of Bologna,
submitted his conclusions to an examining magistrate who must now
decide whether to bring formal charges and order a trial.
The request was expected to be considered around July 20.
The charge, if allowed to proceed, carries a maximum prison.
Five people were investigated in connection with
Roland Ratzenberger's death but Italian media said Passarini had
recommended that their cases be dropped.
auto-moto.349kcurcic,
Staza u Magny Cours-u
france.jpgauto-moto.350mila,
Evo, sveže informacije za one koji ne prate satelitski program:
Na današnjim kvalifikacijama, u Francuskoj, na pomenutoj stazi:
1. Hakinen 1.17.673
2. Pani +0.532
3. Berger +0.611
4. Alezi
5. Šumaher
6. Hil +0.949
7. Vilnev
8. Kultard
9. Irvin
10. Diniz
11. Brandl
12. Barićelo
13. Verštapen
14. Rose itd, itd
auto-moto.351obren,
Formula 1: French Grand Prix
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2nd Free Practice
Panis sets the pace on his home track - until the Fin
-----------------------------------------------------
On a cloudy overcast day in France Olivier Panis held
pole at 1m 18.205s for most of the 2nd free session.
The other top teams stayed at least 0.3s away.
For the first half of the session the top five
followers to Panis were various combinations of
Alesi, Schumacher, Berger, Hill and Villeneuve.
About half way through Hakkinen moved up to second
with a Panis +0.033s. Just after this Barrichello
rolled to a stop with car trouble.
With 5 minutes left Berger does a Panis +0.079s and moves
into 3rd place.
After several earlier spins Verstappen finally backs into
the gravel with 2 minutes of the session left.
In the last minute Hakkinen beats Panis by a stunning 0.532s
to finish the session on pole.
Picture of the day has to be Irvine carrying a traffic cone
on his front suspension for a few meters after taking a short cut.
Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 17.673s 0 0m 0.000s
2 O.Panis Ligier 1m 18.205s 0 0m 0.000s
3 G.Berger Benetton 1m 18.284s 0 0m 0.000s
4 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 18.526s 0 0m 0.000s
5 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 18.545s 0 0m 0.000s
6 D.Hill Williams 1m 18.598s 0 0m 0.000s
7 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 18.992s 0 0m 0.000s
8 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 18.994s 0 0m 0.000s
9 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 19.098s 0 0m 0.000s
10 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 19.104s 0 0m 0.000s
11 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 19.479s 0 0m 0.000s
12 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 19.676s 0 0m 0.000s
13 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 19.693s 0 0m 0.000s
14 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 20.195s 0 0m 0.000s
15 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 20.215s 0 0m 0.000s
16 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 20.231s 0 0m 0.000s
17 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 20.455s 0 0m 0.000s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 20.678s 0 0m 0.000s
19 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 21.189s 0 0m 0.000s
20 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 21.291s 0 0m 0.000s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 21.360s 0 0m 0.000s
22 A.Montermini Forti 1m 23.002s 0 0m 0.000s
---- 107% ---- 1m 23.110s
auto-moto.352kcurcic,
Magny Cours track times:
3rd Free 2nd Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 15.989s 5 1m 21.189s 5 1m 18.545s
2 D.Hill Williams 1m 16.058s 14 1m 23.757s 6 1m 18.598s
3 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 16.310s 8 1m 21.341s 4 1m 18.526s
4 G.Berger Benetton 1m 16.592s 6 1m 21.232s 3 1m 18.284s
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 16.634s 2 1m 19.946s 1 1m 17.673s
6 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 16.905s 13 1m 23.070s 7 1m 18.992s
7 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 17.007s 7 1m 21.268s 8 1m 18.994s
8 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 17.187s 3 1m 20.250s 11 1m 19.479s
9 O.Panis Ligier 1m 17.390s 12 1m 22.480s 2 1m 18.205s
10 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 17.443s 10 1m 21.684s 9 1m 19.098s
11 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 17.665s 1 1m 19.525s 12 1m 19.676s
12 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 17.676s 17 1m 27.470s 10 1m 19.104s
13 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 17.739s 20 1m 28.036s 16 1m 20.231s
14 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 18.021s 22 1m 37.018s 17 1m 20.455s
15 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 18.242s 16 1m 26.772s 15 1m 20.215s
16 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 18.324s 4 1m 20.659s 13 1m 19.693s
17 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 18.556s 11 1m 21.852s 19 1m 21.189s
18 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 18.604s 9 1m 21.478s 20 1m 21.291s
19 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 19.210s 15 1m 23.961s 18 1m 20.678s
20 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 19.242s 18 1m 27.821s 14 1m 20.195s
21 L.Badoer Forti 1m 20.562s 21 1m 28.816s 21 1m 21.360s
22 A.Montermini Forti 1m 20.647s 19 1m 27.896s 22 1m 23.002s
---- 107% ---- 1m 21.308s
All information is unofficial
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auto-moto.353space.ace,
Onaj "#$"#$ Schu je prvi, drugi Hill, treći Alesi, 4. Berger, 5. Hakkinen i
6. Villeneuve.
Vilnev je u 29. minutu kvalifikacija imao spektakularno izletanje i "zabijanje"
u tire-barieer :))) Kada se odbio od barijere, sa skroz uništenom levom stranom
bolida, umalo da ga zakači Coulthard, ali je sve dobro prošlo. Sve se to
dogodilo na izlasku iz krivine Estoril.
Hill je na kraju imao šansu da osvoji pole, ali mu se isprečio Herbert, i nije
uspeo.
Btw, ovde se pričalo, mada ne u ovoj temi, oko nošenja onih "flastera" na nosu.
E, pa da vas obavestim da je podosta vozača F1 rešilo da ih isproba. Hill,
Panis, itd. Jedan čak ima i malu reklamu na flasteru. Nisam stigao da pročitam
koja je tačno reklama bila, ali mora da je dobio dosta para za to :).
auto-moto.354wiper,
Francuska
1.Hill
2.Villeneuve
3.Alesi
4.Berger
5.Hakkinen
6.Coulthard
dalje i nije vazno
vazno je da je Ferrari pokazao najvecu pouzdanost
uspeo je da krene na krugu za zagrevanje :)
ali ko ga vozi pa i nece bolje.
auto-moto.355tomislavr,
Petak 21. Jun 1996.
Dejmon Hil će preispitati svoje buduće učešće u Formuli 1 nakon što je
Reno najavio prekjuče da će napustiti Forumulu 1 do kraja 1997. godine.
Hill, koji vodi u šampionatu sa 21 poen, rekao je: "Ja sam posle ove
sezone slobodan da radim šta hoću. Renoova najava može uticati na moju
odluku za budućnost, ali još je rano da se o tome razmišlja."
auto-moto.356tomislavr,
Petak 21. Jun 1996.
Honda se možda vraća u Formulu 1 u sezoni 1998. kada je Reno napusti.
Japanski konstruktor motora je već bio u Vilijamsovom timu. Beneton će
takođe morati da nađe zamenu za Renoov motor.
Honda je dominirala Formulom jedan od 1986. do 1991. kada su se povukli
sa vrha trkačke scene zbog toga što su njihova poboljšanja i izumi bila
više puta zabranjivana od strane FIA-e.
Honda je već prisutna u Formuli 1 preko tima Ližije, ali pod drugim
imenom: Mugen Honda. Ovi motori sve su bolji i bolji.
U Hondi izjavljuju: "Ne postoji još ništa zvanično, ali 1998. je naša
50. godišnjica postojanja."
auto-moto.357tomislavr,
Le Mans Grand Prix d'Endurance
The first Le Mans was held in 26/27 May 1923 and was won by Andre Lagache
and Rene Leonard in their 3 litre Chenard & Walcker. All races since then
have been held in June, with the exceptions of 1956 (July) and 1968
(September). Traditionally, the race always starts at 16:00 on the
Saturday, although in 1984 the race started at 15:00 due to the conflicting
French General Election. The race has been held every year since then with
the exceptions of 1936, and between 1940 and 1948, when the Second World
War intervened.
In the original configuration, the race track used was 10.73 miles (17.26
km) long, and has subsequently been shortened on several occasions. The
traditional start, where drivers ran across the track to their race cars,
was last used in 1969.
The worst ever motorsport accident unfortunately occured during the 1955 Le
Mans race. Having voiced his unease at the narrowness of the straight in
front of the pits, Pierre Levegh's Mercedes struck the rear of an Austin
Healey driven by Lance Macklin on the pit straight. The car rammed the
bank, exploded, and its engine flew into the packed grandstand, killing 80.
Levegh died instantly, and the entire Mercedes team was withdrawn,
including Stirling Moss and Juan-Manuel Fangio. This precipitated the
complete withdrawal from motorsport for Mercedes.
Le Mans 24 Hrs past winners
Year Car Drivers Distance Speed
(miles) (mph)
Circuit - 10.726 miles
1923 Chenard & Walcker A.Lagache, R.Leonard (F) 1372.9 57.21
1924 Bentley 3 litre J.Duff, F.Clement (GB) 1290.8 53.78
1925 La Lorraine G.de Courcelles, A.Rossignol (F) 1388.1 57.84
1926 La Lorraine R.Bloch, A.Rossignol (F) 1586.0 66.08
1927 Bentley 3 litre D.Benjafield, S.Davis (GB) 1472.5 61.34
1928 Bentley 4.5 W.Barnato, B.Rubin (GB) 1658.6 69.11
Circuit - 10.153 miles
1929 Bentley 6 speed W.Barnato, Sir H.Birkin (GB) 1767.1 73.63
1930 Bentley 6 speed W.Barnato, G.Kidston (GB) 1821.0 75.88
1931 Alfa Romeo 8C2300 E.Howe, Sir H.Birkin (GB) 1875.1 78.13
Circuit - 8.475 miles
1932 Alfa Romeo 8C2300 R.Sommer, L.Chinetti (F,I) 1835.6 76.58
1933 Alfa Romeo 8C2300 R.Sommer, T.Nuvolari (F,I) 1953.6 81.40
1934 Alfa Romeo 8C2300 L.Chinetti, P.Etancelin (I,F) 1793.9 74.74
1935 Lagonda M45R JS Hindmarsh, L.Fontes (GB,RA) 1868.3 77.85
1936 Race cancelled
1937 Bugatti 57G JP Wimille, R.Benoist (F) 2043.0 85.13
1938 Delahaye 135M E.Chaboud, J.Tremoulet (F) 1976.5 82.36
1939 Bugatti 57G JP Wimille, P.Veyron (F) 2084.5 86.69
1940-48 Race cancelled
1949 Ferrari 166MM L.Chinetti, Lord Selsdon (USA,GB) 1974.9 82.28
1950 Talbot-Lago L.Rosier, JL Rosier (F) 2153.1 89.71
1951 Jaguar C-Type P.Walker, P.Whitehead (GB) 2243.9 93.50
1952 Mercedes-B.300SL H.Lang, F.Riess (D) 2320.1 96.67
1953 Jaguar C-Type T.Rolt, D.Hamilton (GB) 2540.2 105.84
1954 Ferrari 375 F.Gonzalez, M.Trintignant (RA,F) 2523.5 105.15
1955 Jaguar D-Type M.Hawthorn, I.Bueb (GB) 2569.6 107.07
Circuit - 8.364 miles
1956 Jaguar D-Type R.Flockhart, N.Sanderson (GB) 2507.2 104.47
1957 Jaguar D-Type R.Flockhart, I.Bueb (GB) 2732.2 113.85
1958 Ferrari 250TR58 O.Gendebien, P.Hill (B,USA) 2548.8 106.20
1959 Aston Martin DBR1 C.Shelby, R.Salvadori (USA,GB) 2701.7 112.57
1960 Ferrari 250TR59/60 O.Gendebien, P.Frere (B) 2620.6 109.19
1961 Ferrari 250TR61 O.Gendebien, P.Hill (B,USA) 2781.6 115.90
1962 Ferrari 250P O.Gendebien, P.Hill (B,USA) 2765.9 115.24
1963 Ferrari 250P L.Scarfiotti, L.Bandini (I) 2834.5 118.10
1964 Ferrari 275P J.Guichet, N.Vaccarella (F,I) 2917.5 121.56
1965 Ferrari 250LM J.Rindt, M.Gregory (A,USA) 2906.2 121.09
1966 Ford GT40 Mk2 C.Amon, B.McLaren (NZ) 3009.4 125.39
1967 Ford GT40 Mk4 D.Gurney, AJ Foyt (USA) 2630.2 135.48
Circuit - 8.369 miles
1968 Ford GT40 P.Rodriguez, L.Bianchi (Mex,B) 2766.9 115.29
1969 Ford GT40 J.Ickx, J.Oliver (B,GB) 3105.6 129.40
1970 Porsche 917 H.Herrmann, R.Attwood (D,GB) 2863.2 119.30
1971 Porsche 917 H.Marko, G.van Lennep (A,NL) 3315.2 138.13
Circuit - 8.475 miles
1972 Matra-Simca MS670 H.Pescarolo, G.Hill (F,GB) 2915.1 121.45
1973 Matra-Simca MS670B H.Pescarolo, G.Larrousse (F) 3016.1 125.67
1974 Matra-Simca MS670B H.Pescarolo, G.Larrousse (F) 2862.4 119.27
1975 Mirage-Ford M8 J.Ickx, D.Bell (B,GB) 2855.6 118.98
1976 Porsche 936 J.Ickx, G.van Lennep (B,NL) 2963.9 123.49
1977 Porsche 936 J.Ickx,J.Barth,H.Haywood(B,D,USA) 2902.8 120.95
1978 Renault Alpine JP Jaussaud, D.Pironi (F) 3134.5 130.60
Circuit - 8.467 miles
1979 Porsche 935 K.Ludwig,B & D.Whittington(D,USA) 2590.9 108.10
1980 Rondeau Ford M379B JP Jaussaud, J.Rondeau (F) 2861.4 119.23
1981 Porsche 936-81 J.Ickx, D.Bell (B,GB) 2998.3 124.93
1982 Porsche 956-82 J.Ickx, D.Bell (B,GB) 3044.2 126.84
1983 Porsche 956-83 V.Schuppan, H.Haywood, A.Holbert
(A,USA,USA) 3136.5 130.70
1984 Porsche 956B K.Ludwig, H.Pescarolo (D,F) 3045.0 126.88
1985 Porsche 956B K.Ludwig, P.Barilla, J.Winter
(D,I,D) 3157.9 131.76
Circuit - 8.51 miles
1986 Porsche 962C D.Bell, H.Stuck, A.Holbert
(GB,D,USA) 3088.1 128.66
Circuit - 8.45 miles
1987 Porsche 962C D.Bell, H.Stuck, A.Holbert
(GB,D,USA) 2977.0 124.06
1988 Jaguar XJR-9LM J.Dumfries, J.Lammers, A.Wallace
(GB,NL,GB) 3313.2 137.72
1989 Sauber Mercedes C9 J.Mass, S.Dickens, M.Reuter
(D,S,D) 3269.6 136.23
Circuit - 8.45 miles (with Mulsanne Chicanes)
1990 Jaguar XJR-12 M.Brundle, J.Nielsen, P.Cobb
(GB,DK,USA) 3040.7 126.69
1991 Mazda 787B J.Herbert, B.Gachot, V.Weidler
(GB,B,D) 3058.9 127.45
1992 Peugeot 905 D.Warwick, Y.Dalmas, M.Blundell
(GB,F,GB) 2992.0 124.66
1993 Peugeot 905B G.Brabham, E.Helary, C.Bouchut
(AUS,F,F) 3168.8 133.34
1994 Dauer Porsche962LM Y.Dalmas, H.Haywood, M.Baldi
(F,USA,I) 2912.2 121.33
1995 McLaren F1 GTR Y.Dalmas, JJ Lehto, M.Sekiya
(F,SF,J) 2518.1 105.01
auto-moto.358kcurcic,
French Grand Prix results:
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1hr 36m 28.795s (72 Laps)
2 J.Villeneuve Williams Gap 0m 8.127s
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 18.610s)
3 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 0m 46.442s
4 G.Berger Benetton Gap 0m 46.859s
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren Gap 1m 2.774s
6 D.Coulthard McLaren Laps behind: 1
7 O.Panis Ligier Laps behind: 1
8 M.Brundle Jordan Laps behind: 1
9 R.Barrichello Jordan Laps behind: 1
10 M.Salo Tyrrell Laps behind: 2
11 J.Herbert Sauber Laps behind: 2
12 R.Rosset Footwork Laps behind: 3
13 P.Lamy Minardi Laps behind: 3
Retirements:
H.Frentzen Sauber On Lap: 57 Reason:
U.Katayama Tyrrell On Lap: 34 Reason:
L.Badoer Forti On Lap: 30 Reason:
P.Diniz Ligier On Lap: 29 Reason:
J.Verstappen Footwork On Lap: 11 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari On Lap: 6 Reason:
A.Montermini Forti On Lap: 3 Reason:
G.Fisichella Minardi On Lap: 3 Reason:
M.Schumacher Ferrari
(Pole Position)
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auto-moto.359kcurcic,
French Grand Prix Race Resume:
Weather: Sunny
Lap Event
0 Schumachers engine blows up on the warm up lap
0 Grid Positions: (1) (2) D.Hill
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) J.Villeneuve
1 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Villeneuve
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
2 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->1.887s->(2) J.Alesi
->1.952s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.652s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->1.398s->(5) G.Berger->1.050s->(6) M.Brundle
3 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->2.449s->(2) J.Alesi
->2.610s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.618s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->1.549s->(5) G.Berger->1.702s->(6) M.Brundle
3 Montermini retires
3 Fisichella retires
5 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->3.089s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.227s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.868s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->2.099s->(5) G.Berger->2.629s->(6) M.Brundle
6 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->3.228s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.535s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.952s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->2.422s->(5) G.Berger->3.127s->(6) M.Brundle
6 Irvine retires (gearbox)
7 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->3.715s->(2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Villeneuve
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
8 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->4.169s->(2) J.Alesi
->4.137s->(3) M.Hakkinen->1.105s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->2.357s->(5) G.Berger->4.479s->(6) M.Brundle
10 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->5.295s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.476s->(3) M.Hakkinen->1.449s->(4) J.Villeneuve
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
11 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 19.059s
11 Vestappen off into gravel
11 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Villeneuve
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
11 (7) Coulthard, (8) Diniz, (9) Barrichello
13 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->6.636s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.624s->(3) M.Hakkinen->1.653s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->4.241s->(5) G.Berger->8.407s->(6) M.Brundle
17 (7) Coulthard right up behind (6) Brundle
17 (8)Diniz-(9)Barrichello-(10)Panis all very close
18 Pits: Panis 8.1s
18 Pits: Salo
18 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Villeneuve
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Brundle
20 Pits: Barrichello - 8.4s
20 Pits: Alesi - 7.3s
21 (7) Alesi
21 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) M.Hakkinen
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Brundle (6) D.Coulthard
23 Pits: Brundle - 8.5s
23 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) M.Hakkinen
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) G.Berger
(5) J.Alesi (6) D.Coulthard
24 Pits: Berger - 8.1s
25 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->14.000s->(2) M.Hakkinen
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
27 Pits: Hakkinen - 7.7s
27 Pits: Hill
27 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) D.Hill
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) P.Diniz
28 Fastest lap: Villeneue 1m 19.044s
28 (7) Coulthard, (8) Brundle, (9) Panis, (10) Barrichello
(11) Herbert
29 Pits: Herbert - 7.7s
29 Diniz retires
29 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 19.042s
29 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->10.000s->(2) D.Hill
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) Coulthard
30 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.9s
30 Badoer retires
31 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->10.734s->(2) J.Alesi
->3.722s->(3) J.Villeneuve->2.164s->(4) M.Hakkinen
->2.981s->(5) G.Berger->23.147s->(6) D.Coulthard
32 (7) Brundle, (8) Panis
34 Katayama retires in pits (engine)
34 14 cars left
34 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Alesi
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
35 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Alesi
->0.530s->(3) J.Villeneuve (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
35 (3) Villeneuve right up behind (2) Alesi
36 Panis right up behind Brundle
36 Villeneuve gets past Alesi
36 Pits: Panis - 8.1s
36 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->12.200s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
38 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 18.971s
38 Fastest lap: Panis 1m 18.712s
38 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->11.290s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
39 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
39 (7) Brundle, (8) Barrichello, (9) Panis
41 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->12.500s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
->1.600s->(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
42 Pits: Alesi - 10.0s
43 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->12.190s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) G.Berger (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) J.Alesi (6) D.Coulthard
44 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->10.314s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->17.282s->(3) G.Berger (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) J.Alesi (6) D.Coulthard
45 Panis takes Barrichello
45 (8) Panis
47 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 18.629s
48 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) G.Berger (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) J.Alesi (6) D.Coulthard
48 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 18.610s
49 Pits: Brundle - 11.4s
49 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.4s
49 Pits: Coulthard - 7.6s
51 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
51 Pits: Hakkinen - 8.4s
52 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->31.000s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
53 Pits: Hill - 7.2s
53 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi->0.922s->(4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
54 (7) Coulthard, (8) Brundle, (9) Barrichello
54 Pits: Panis - 7.4s
55 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
57 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->10.906s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->23.835s->(3) J.Alesi->0.575s->(4) G.Berger
->15.428s->(5) M.Hakkinen->19.552s->(6) D.Coulthard
57 Frentzen off into gravel (throttle stuck)
60 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
->25.641s->(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
61 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->14.491s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
63 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->13.372s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
66 (7) Panis, (8) Brundle, (9) Barrichello,
(10) Salo, (11) Herbert, (12) Rosset,
(13) Lamy
69 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->13.195s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->33.665s->(3) J.Alesi->0.970s->(4) G.Berger
->12.057s->(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
71 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Coulthard
72 Hill wins, 2nd Villeneuve, 3rd Alesi
auto-moto.360kcurcic,
F1: French GP report
Stephen M Baines
MNI - Motorsport News International
Sun Jun 30 18:38:22 EDT 1996
Race Report
After yesterdays changable weather, the race looked set for a dry race.
Both Williams and Benetton were to race the new RS8B engine. And the drama
at the end of qualifying yesterday in the Ferrari garage? It was Eddie
Irvine's car that was deemed illegal. The barge boards were too high (some
15mm apparantly), and so he was to start at the back of the field - behind
the two Forti's.
The cars set of on the formation lap, and the pole sitter Schumacher, hit a
problem. His engine gave in a spectacular manner, and so the German would
not start the race. From the off it was Hill who commanded the race, taking
the lead at the first corner, and pulling away well from the Benetton of
Alesi, followed by Hakkinen, Villeneuve, Berger and Brundle. By the end of
the first lap, Irvine had moved up the field from 21st to 16th, and looked
set to make good progress up the field.
Hill Alesi Hakkinen Villeneuve Berger Brundle
2 laps 1.887 3.839 4.491 5.889 6.939
Montermini was the next person to pull out of the race. At this early stage
in the race there was some concern about Hill's car - the Benetton of Alesi
following him was being covered in fluid - could Hill be about to go the
way of Schumacher?
Hill Alesi Hakkinen Villeneuve Berger Brundle
3 laps 2.449 5.059 5.677 7.226 8.928
Hill, unconcerned by this, set a fastest lap of 1m19.241 on lap 3, and
continued to pull away from the field. Fisichella joined the list of
retirements. A small puff of smoke was then seen from the rear of the
Williams of Hill.....
Hill Alesi Hakkinen Villeneuve Berger Brundle
5 laps 3.089 6.316 7.184 9.283 11.912
6 laps 3.228 6.763 7.715 10.137 13.264
8 laps 4.169 8.306 9.411 11.768 16.247
On lap 5 the Ferrari of Irvine pulled into the pits and retired, it later
was reported that this was probably a transmission problem of some sort.
Another torrid race for Maranello. The talk of the race, however, was Pedro
Diniz, who was making the most of the race, and was running in a realistic
8th place! On lap 9, Verstappen took a trip across gravel traps on both
sides of the circuit before coming to a halt. Hill, meanwhile, was busily
building his cussion, and pulling away from the field. Brundle, further
back, was fighting off a determined Coulthard. The McLaren has clearly made
big steps forward over the last couple of weeks, and looked a real
challenger for the Jordan - and a step closer to the Benettons. Hill by lap
13, had stabilised his lead over Alesi to 6 seconds, and keeping it there.
Luca Badoer was the first proper stop on lap 14, and looked set for a 3
stop race. Panis, clearly incensed by having Diniz ahead of him, was after
Barrichello. Barrichello, in turn, was after Diniz. The three tearing round
after each other.
Coulthard continued to make a big effort to get past Brundle, who was
fairly maintaining his lead. On lap 19, the pits stops started in earnest,
with Panis pitting in 8.1s, followed by Salo. Brundle was pushing, pushing,
pushing to take a lead over Coulthard. Ulitmately it would be decided on
pit stops after Coulthard had a major attack at the Adelaide Hairpin, and
failed. Barrichello was the next front runner to pit in 8.4 seconds,
followed by Alesi on lap 22, in 7.3 seconds. Hill now had a 17.3 second
lead over Hakkinen, whilst Villeneuve was all over the McLaren. The two
came upon a Minardi, and were lapping it. Villeneuve sensing a chance,
tried to make the most of it, and tried to get by. In the course of the
next few laps the front runners made there stops - Lamy, Brundle, Berger,
Rosset, Coulthard. The latter rejoining ahead of Brundle, and so taking the
place he was desparate for. The top 6 by lap 27 were Hill, Hakkinen,
Villeneuve, Alesi, Berger, Diniz.... Hill was next to pit, and Hakkinen
followed him - allowing Villeneuve to take the lead until his stop.
Villeneuve now sets a string of fast laps, trying to give himself a cussion
for his stop.
On lap 28, unfortunately, the rejuvenated Diniz retires. Finally on lap 29,
as Hill set a fastest lap of 1m19.042, Villeneuve pitted, and rejoined
ahead of Hakkinen.
Hill Alesi Villeneuve Hakkinen Berger Coulthard
31 laps 10.734 14.456 16.620 19.601 42.748
On lap 32, Badoer retired from the race. Brundle was now under major attack
from Panis - clearly out to prove a point after their battles last year.
Ukyo Katayama was the next of the runners to retire. Gerhard Berger,
meanwhile, made short work of a 3 second gap to Hakkinen and was on the
trail of 4th. Villeneuve, meanwhile, was after a Benetton, and eventually
took Alesi for 2nd place. Panis now had to pit for the 2nd of his three
stops. After this stop Panis set a fastest lap of 1m18.712 on lap 38.
Villeneuve was now on for Hill, and after blood. He had to contend with the
Minardi of Lamy, and after battling to get by made a hand movement that
suggested the Portugese's passtimes.
Lap 42: Hill, Villeneuve, Alesi, Hakkinen, Berger, Coulthard, Brundle,
Barrichello, Panis, Frentzen, Salo, Herbert, Rosset, Lamy
On lap 43, Benetton were ready for another stop. Alesi was the one to take
this, in 10 seconds dead. Berger was busy on the race track, chasing after
Hakkinen, and finally taking him in a beautiful manoevre. Hill, still
leading at the front, was now 12 seconds ahead of his team-mate. Villeneuve
was soon to break this down, and Panis again was charging after
Barrichello. Eventually the Frenchman got by, and took 8th. This battle
held up Hill, and helped his team-mate to close up.
On lap 47, Panis was after Brundle, but 8 seconds away. Berger made his
stop on this lap, as did Salo. Hill eventually got by an uncooperative
Panis in a very lurid move. Villeneuve was now 9.4 seconds behind Hill, as
Barrichello pitted from 9th. Villeneuve was now charged up, and setting a
string of fastest laps, culminating with a 1m18.610 on lap 48. Williams
were now ready for pit stops, and Villeneuve was the first to stop. Brundle
followed in to Jordan, as did Coulthard to McLaren. On lap 53, the board
was put out to Hill. He came in the next lap, with a very tidy 7.2 second
stop. He was back into the lead without Villeneuve being anywhere near.
Lap 54: Hill, Villeneuve, Alesi, Berger, Hakkinen, Coulthard, Brundle,
Barrichello, Frentzen, Salo, Herbert, Rosset, Lamy
Panis was in for his third stop, as Frentzen took a day trip to the beach,
and got out to play in it. On a closer examination it looked like the
left-rear suspension had gone, raising the right-front wheel, and stopping
the car from steering. By lap 61 Hill had took his lead to 13 seconds, and
comfortable it looked too, as Villeneuve was trapped behind Panis. Panis
did not make it easy for the Canadian to get by, but eventually he did let
him by. And so it settled down to the flag, with very little to get het up
about, when Hill coasted across the line to victory - his 6th from 9 races.
1. Hill
2. Villeneuve
3. Alesi
4. Berger
5. Hakkinen
6. Coulthard
7. Panis
8. Brundle
9. Barrichello
10. Salo
11. Herbert
12. Rosset
13. Lamy
--
Stephen M Baines
All information courtesy of MNI - Motorsport News International
auto-moto.361kcurcic,
INDYCAR: Cleveland results
tomh@motorsport.com (Tom Haapanen)
MNI - Motorsport News International
Sun Jun 30 23:26:27 EDT 1996
Pos Driver Nat Chassis-Engine Time
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Gil de Ferran BR Reynard 96-Honda-G 1:35:39.326
2. Alessandro Zanardi I Reynard 96-Honda-F +1.033
3. Greg Moore CDN Reynard 96-Mercedes-F +16.043
4. Al Unser Jr. USA Penske 96-Mercedes-G +28.269
5. Bryan Herta USA Reynard 96-Mercedes-G +35.310
6. Adrian Fernandez MEX Lola 96-Honda-F +45.871
7. Christian Fittipaldi BR Lola 96-Ford-G +62.720
8. Scott Pruett USA Lola 96-Ford-F -1 laps
9. Paul Tracy CDN Penske 96-Mercedes-G -1 laps
10. Jimmy Vasser USA Reynard 96-Honda-F -1 laps
11. Mark Blundell GB Reynard 96-Ford-G -2 laps
12. Stefan Johansson S Reynard 96-Mercedes-G -2 laps
13. Juan Manuel Fangio II ARG Eagle 96-Toyota-G -2 laps
14. Roberto Moreno BR Lola 96-Ford-F -2 laps
15. Bobby Rahal USA Reynard 96-Mercedes-G -3 laps
16. Jeff Krosnoff USA Reynard 96-Toyota-F -5 laps Electrics
17. Hiro Matsushita J Lola 96-Ford-F -5 laps
18. Robby Gordon USA Reynard 96-Ford-G -6 laps
19. Michael Andretti USA Lola 96-Ford-G on lap 82 Driveshaft
20. Andre Ribeiro BR Lola 96-Honda-F on lap 82 Exhaust
21. Mauricio Gugelmin BR Reynard 96-Ford-G on lap 72 Engine
22. Emerson Fittipaldi BR Penske 96-Mercedes-G on lap 28 Engine
23. PJ Jones USA Eagle 96-Toyota-G on lap 25 Gearbox
24. Eddie Lawson USA Lola 96-Mercedes-G on lap 19 Accident
25. Parker Johnstone USA Reynard 96-Honda-F on lap 19 Accident
26. Raul Boesel BR Reynard 96-Ford-G on lap 19 Engine
INDYCAR: Standings after Cleveland
PPG Cup Points Standings
Pos Driver Nat Chassis-Engine Points
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Jimmy Vasser USA Reynard 96-Honda-F 102
2. Al Unser Jr. USA Penske 96-Mercedes-G 99
3. Gil de Ferran BR Reynard 96-Honda-G 92
4. Christian Fittipaldi BR Lola 96-Ford-G 78
5. Michael Andretti USA Lola 96-Ford-G 73
6. Greg Moore CDN Reynard 96-Mercedes-F 60
7. Scott Pruett USA Lola 96-Ford-F 59
8. Alessandro Zanardi I Reynard 96-Honda-F 55
9. Andre Ribeiro BR Lola 96-Honda-F 49
10. Paul Tracy CDN Penske 96-Mercedes-G 49
11. Bobby Rahal USA Reynard 96-Mercedes-G 40
12. Adrian Fernandez MEX Lola 96-Honda-F 36
13. Emerson Fittipaldi BR Penske 96-Mercedes-G 29
14. Mauricio Gugelmin BR Reynard 96-Ford-G 28
15. Parker Johnstone USA Reynard 96-Honda-F 28
16. Mark Blundell GB Reynard 96-Ford-G 27
17. Eddie Lawson USA Lola 96-Mercedes-G 26
18. Roberto Moreno BR Lola 96-Ford-F 24
19. Stefan Johansson S Reynard 96-Mercedes-G 19
20. Robby Gordon USA Reynard 96-Ford-G 17
21. Bryan Herta USA Reynard 96-Mercedes-G 16
22. Raul Boesel BR Reynard 96-Ford-G 11
23. PJ Jones USA Eagle 96-Toyota-G 4
24. Hiro Matsushita J Lola 96-Ford-F 3
25. Richie Hearn USA Reynard 95-Ford-G 3
26. Marco Greco BR Lola 96-Ford-G 1
27. Scott Goodyear CDN Reynard 96-Ford-G 1
Nations' Cup
1. United States 180
2. Brazil 150
3. Canada 82
4. Italy 50
5. Mexico 36
6. England 27
7. Sweden 19
8. Japan 3
Manufacturers' Championship
1. Honda 165
2. Ford 146
3. Mercedes-Benz 128
4. Toyota 4
Constructor's Championship
1. Reynard 172
2. Lola 152
3. Penske 99
4. AAR Eagle 4
Rookie of the Year
1. Greg Moore 60
2. Alesandro Zanardi 55
3. Mark Blundell 27
4. Eddie Lawson 26
5. PJ Jones 4
6. Richie Hearn 3
Pole Positions
1. Jimmy Vasser 3
2. Alessandro Zanardi 2
Paul Tracy 2
4. Gil de Ferran 1
Scott Pruett 1
All information courtesy of MNI - Motorsport News International
auto-moto.362tomislavr,
Za one koji nisu gledali trku...
Nedelja 30. Jun 1996.
Dejmon Hil je, opet, povećao prednost u šampionatu pobedivši u
Francuskoj. Hil nije imao problema da ostane vodeći jer je nosilac
pol-pozicije Mihael Šumaher ispao još u krugu za zagrevanje zbog kvara
motora. I sam Hil je izjavio da nije bilo problema da osvoji GP
Francuske po prvi put, posle tri druga mesta na ovoj stazi.
Žak Vilnev je potvrdio dominaciju Viliams-Renoa osvojivši opet drugo
mesto.
Dva Benetona, Alezi i Berger, "podarili" su Renou sva prva četiri mesta
na domaćem terenu. Alezi je uspeo da sačuva treće mesto od svog klupskog
kolege Bergera koji je "napadao" pred kraj trke. Medjutim prva trojica
nisu mogla da proslave rezultat jer je šampanjac bio zabranjen.
Meklaren-Mercedesi Hakinen i Kultard su završili u prvih šest (5.i 6.)
E sad izjave aktera (nisam ih prevodio da ne izgube na draži :)
Hill: "There were no problems. I want to dedicate this race to all the
friends of ours at Renault-Sport. It is a very good result and I am
delighted for the whole team. There is only one thing left for me to do
and that is to win the British Grand Prix. Irrespective of the
championship, a win at home would be fantastic."
Hill on Schumacher blowing his engine: "It was an unexpected sight, but
it made the race a lot easier for me."
Villeneuve: "It was a good result especially after the big crash
yesterday."
Alesi: "It was the first time for me on the podium of the French Grand
Prix. It was a good result."
Schumacher. "Shit! (...) I was very angry at first but then you have to
calm to and look at the problem. It's a pity because we had been
reliable until Canada but now we are getting problems. But I always knew
this would be a learning year with the team."
Džoni Herbert je diskvalifikovan iz trke i izgubio je 11. mesto, jer je
njegov bolid kršio tehnička pravila.
ferr.zipauto-moto.363djcorto,
Petak, a ni reci o GP GB ???
Auuuuu ...... ;)
auto-moto.364obren,
> Petak, a ni reci o GP GB ???
Šta tu ima da se priča, sve se unapred zna... ;)
auto-moto.365obren,
Rezultati drugog nezvaničnog treninga za GP Britanije, 12. 07. 1996.
1. Villeneuve (Nove gume)
2. Hill
3. Alesi
4. Coulthard
5. Schumacher
6. Hakkinen
7. Berger
8. Barrichello
9. Brundle
10. Panis
11. Frentzen
12. Irvine
13. Verstappen
14. Salo
15. Herbert
Hil je vodio do pred kraj treninga kada je Žak stavio nove gume i
skinuo ga za 0.7 sekundi! Šumaheru su sve vreme menjali setap bolida
a pred kraj je vozio vrlo brzo, ali nedovoljno da nešto više uradi.
auto-moto.366djcorto,
> Sta tu ima da se prica, sve se unapred zna... ;)
Gale Force i tako to .. ;)
NEgde cuh ili procitah da ce trci prisustvovvati i Signore
Agnelli licno ... Ferrari se stvarno, ali stvarno OBRUKAO.
Neverovatno je da tako bogata ekipa ima toliko LOSE automobile.
Vozace nisam pominjao ;) Oni su i najmanje krivi za svu sramotu.
auto-moto.367djcorto,
> Sumaheru su sve vreme menjali setap bolida
Ma da, dosao Grunf za sefa mehanicara ;)
auto-moto.368obren,
> Negde cuh ili procitah da ce trci prisustvovati i Signore
> Agnelli licno ... Ferrari se stvarno, ali stvarno OBRUKAO.
> Neverovatno je da tako bogata ekipa ima toliko LOSE automobile.
Prisustvovao je treningu, pomenu Votson na Eurosportu. Čovek se izgleda
dvoumi da li da gasi tim ili ne. A žao mu, velike je pare uložio... ;>
Čitao sam negde intervju sa njim, i kaže da mu je životna želja bila
da kupi BMW (firmu, naravno) ali, eto, nije mu se ispunila. Doduše
dodao je da će, kao utehu, FIAT verovatno kupiti Volvo (?)
Kad smo već kod Ferrarija, bili smo tomislavr i ja prošle nedelje u
Beranovcu, gledali trke domaćeg prvenstva. E pa safety car je bio
jedan žuti Ferrari 355 cabrio. Ljudi, kako ta makina izgleda i zvuči!
Moram pod hitno da se obogatim, zbog takvih sitnica... :)
P.S. Na treningu je bio i Džeki Stjuart sa nekom simpatičnom kapom, u
boxu Vilijamsa i čatao sa Hilom. On će 1997. debitovati sa svojom
ekipom Stewart - Ford. Komentar voditelja je bio:
"and it will not be just another GP team, it will be a winning team!"
Videćemo... :)
auto-moto.369kcurcic,
Silverstone staza.
britain.jpgauto-moto.370kcurcic,
British Grand Prix: Qualifying
Circuit: Silverstone, England
Date: July 12th to 14th 1996
Track Times:
3rd Free 2nd Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 26.875s 1 1m 26.560s 2 1m 28.241s
2 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 27.070s 2 1m 27.028s 1 1m 27.541s
3 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 27.707s 3 1m 27.624s 5 1m 28.436s
4 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 27.856s 6 1m 28.013s 6 1m 28.888s
5 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 28.307s 9 1m 28.552s 3 1m 28.364s
6 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 28.409s 4 1m 27.705s 8 1m 29.137s
7 G.Berger Benetton 1m 28.653s 5 1m 27.996s 7 1m 29.013s
8 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 28.946s 7 1m 28.384s 9 1m 29.146s
9 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 28.966s 8 1m 28.534s 4 1m 28.417s
10 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 29.186s 10 1m 29.182s 12 1m 29.458s
11 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 29.591s 14 1m 29.773s 11 1m 29.312s
12 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 29.913s 15 1m 29.777s 16 1m 30.826s
13 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 29.947s 11 1m 29.549s 15 1m 30.459s
14 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 29.949s 16 1m 29.810s 14 1m 30.388s
15 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 30.102s 12 1m 29.684s 13 1m 29.753s
16 O.Panis Ligier 1m 30.167s 13 1m 29.741s 10 1m 29.236s
17 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 30.529s 18 1m 31.083s 18 1m 31.032s
18 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 31.076s 17 1m 30.743s 17 1m 30.829s
19 G.Fisichella Minardi 1m 31.365s 20 1m 31.771s 19 1m 31.450s
20 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 31.454s 19 1m 31.591s 20 1m 31.661s
---- 107% ---- 1m 32.956s
21 A.Montermini Forti 1m 35.206s 0 0m 0.000s 0 0m 0.000s
22 L.Badoer Forti 1m 35.304s 0 0m 0.000s 0 0m 0.000s
Session Resume:
Weather: Hot Sunny day, Track Temp 35 degrees C
Time Event
0: 8 1m 32.550s - G.Fisichella
0:10 1m 31.930s - R.Rosset
0:10 Current Positions: (1) Rosset, (2) Fisichella
0:15 1m 32.630s - U.Katayma
0:15 Current Positions: (1) Rosset, (2) Fisichella, (3) Katayma
0:16 Schumacher on track
0:17 1m 30.420s - J.Verstappen
0:17 Current Positions: (1) Verstappen, (2) Rosset,
(3) Fisichella, (4) Katayma
0:17 1m 27.710s - M.Schumacher
0:17 Current Positions: (1) Schumacher, (2) Verstappen, (3) Rosset,
(4) Fisichella, (5) Katayma
0:19 Schumacher back into pits after one fast lap
0:23 1m 29.480s - M.Brundle
0:23 Current Positions: (1) Schumacher, (2) Brundle, (3) Verstappen,
(4) Rosset, (5) Fisichella, (6) Katayma
0:23 Hill on track
0:25 1m 27.870s - D.Hill
0:25 Current Positions: (1) Schumacher, (2) Hill, (3) Brundle
0:25 1m 27.700s - J.Villeneuve
0:25 Current Positions: (1) Villeneuve, (2) Schumacher, (3) Hill
0:26 1m 27.560s - D.Hill
0:26 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villeneuve, (3) Schumacher
0:27 1m 27.160s - J.Villeneuve
0:27 Current Positions: (1) Villeneuve, (2) Hill, (3) Schumacher
0:30 Current Positions: (1) Villeneuve, (2) Hill, (3) Schumacher,
(4) Alesi, (5) Berger, (6) Coulthard
0:31 1m 28.530s - R.Barrichello
0:31 Current Positions: (1) Villeneuve, (2) Hill, (3) Schumacher,
(4) Barrichello, (5) Alesi, (6) Berger
0:33 1m 28.340s - M.Hakkinen
0:33 Current Positions: (1) Villeneuve, (2) Hill, (3) Schumacher,
(4) Hakkinen, (5) Barrichello, (6) Alesi
0:38 1m 28.970s - D.Coulthard
0:40 1m 28.030s - M.Hakkinen
0:43 1m 26.880s - D.Hill
0:43 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villeneuve, (3) Schumacher,
(4) Hakkinen, (5) Barrichello, (6) Alesi
0:45 1m 27.280s - J.Villeneuve
0:47 1m 28.410s - R.Barrichello
0:49 1m 27.860s - M.Hakkinen
0:50 Badoer retires onto grass
0:53 1m 28.250s - M.Schumacher
0:55 1m 28.310s - J.Alesi
0:55 Current Positions: (1) Hill, (2) Villeneuve, (3) Schumacher,
(4) Hakkinen, (5) Alesi, (6) Barrichello
0:56 Montemini retires onto grass
0:57 Villeneuve on track
0:58 1m 27.070s - J.Villeneuve
0:58 Hill on track in spare car after a clutch problem
0:59 1m 26.930s - D.Hill
auto-moto.371dusko,
> NEgde cuh ili procitah da ce trci prisustvovvati i Signore
> Agnelli licno ... Ferrari se stvarno, ali stvarno OBRUKAO.
> Neverovatno je da tako bogata ekipa ima toliko LOSE automobile.
Malopre smo cdr i ja gledali kvalifikacije i u toku prenosa je išla
reklama za časopis "F1 magazine", kad ono na naslovnoj strani Ferrarijev
crni konj na žutoj pozadini, a ispod naslov "Don't shoot the horse,
yet" ;)))))))))))))))))))))))
Pozdrav,
Duško
P.S.: 1. Hil
2. Vilnev
3. Šumaher
4. Hakinen
5. ....
auto-moto.372ljubisha,
Dakle, ode Ferari. :(( Zbog prvog vozača Kretena mi nešto i nije
žao ali ako propadne Ferari onda to više nije to. :(
auto-moto.373wiper,
Velika nagrada Britanije
1. Villeneuve 10
2. Berger 6
3. Hakkinen 4
4. Barrichello 3
5. Coulthard 2
6. Brundle 1
Williams - 10
Benetton - 6
McLaren - 6
Jordan - 5
Oba Ferarija su eksplodirala
Alesi je imao problema za zadnjim levim diskom.
Hil se nest zajebo na kocenju
auto-moto.374obren,
Čuo sam priče da je Anjeli dobio infarkt, a da se Tod obesio.
Da li je to tačno? ;)
auto-moto.375kcurcic,
British Grand Prix 96: The Result
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 J.Villeneuve Williams 1hr 33m 0.874s (61 Laps)
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 29.288s)
2 G.Berger Benetton Gap 0m 19.026s
3 M.Hakkinen McLaren Gap 0m 50.830s
4 R.Barrichello Jordan Gap 1m 6.716s
5 D.Coulthard McLaren Gap 1m 22.507s
6 M.Brundle Jordan Laps behind: 1
7 M.Salo Tyrrell Laps behind: 1
8 H.Frentzen Sauber Laps behind: 1
9 J.Herbert Sauber Laps behind: 1
10 J.Verstappen Footwork Laps behind: 1
11 G.Fisichella Minardi Laps behind: 2
Retirements:
J.Alesi Benetton On Lap: 45 Reason:
O.Panis Ligier On Lap: 41 Reason:
P.Diniz Ligier On Lap: 39 Reason:
D.Hill Williams On Lap: 27 Reason:
(Pole Position)
P.Lamy Minardi On Lap: 22 Reason:
R.Rosset Footwork On Lap: 14 Reason:
U.Katayama Tyrrell On Lap: 13 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari On Lap: 6 Reason:
M.Schumacher Ferrari On Lap: 4 Reason:
Not Qualified:
A.Montermini Forti
L.Badoer Forti
Race Resume:
Weather: Cloudy, dry weather
Lap Event
0 Grid Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Schumacher (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) J.Alesi (6) R.Barrichello
0 Bad start by Hill
0 Villeneuve leads into first corner followed by
Alesi, Hakkinen, Schumacher and Hill
1 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.603s->(2) J.Alesi
->1.060s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.940s->(4) M.Schumacher
->0.659s->(5) D.Hill->0.761s->(6) R.Barrichello
1 Irvine has moved up from 10th to 7th
1 Schumachers engine is smoking
2 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->2.792s->(2) J.Alesi
->1.201s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.955s->(4) M.Schumacher
->0.701s->(5) D.Hill->1.532s->(6) R.Barrichello
2 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 29.599s
4 Schumacher cruises back to pits and retires his
gearbox stuck in 6th
4 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->5.217s->(2) J.Alesi
->1.472s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.912s->(4) D.Hill
->3.689s->(5) R.Barrichello->1.174s->(6) E.Irvine
6 Irivines engine starts smoking - he retires
6 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->7.443s->(2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) D.Hill
(5) R.Barrichello
8 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->8.347s->(2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen->1.035s->(4) D.Hill
(5) R.Barrichello
9 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->10.253s->(2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) D.Hill
(5) R.Barrichello
10 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->10.773s->(2) J.Alesi
->1.503s->(3) M.Hakkinen->1.310s->(4) D.Hill
->6.257s->(5) R.Barrichello->1.311s->(6) G.Berger
10 Villeneuve pulling away in front
10 Hill stuck behind Hakkinen
12 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) D.Hill
(5) R.Barrichello (6) G.Berger
13 7-Brundle, 8-Coulthard
13 Katayama retires in pits
14 Rosset retires
15 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->16.710s->(2) J.Alesi
->2.040s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.684s->(4) D.Hill
->8.623s->(5) R.Barrichello->0.853s->(6) G.Berger
15 Pits: Panis - 13.3s
16 Villeneuve start to lap the back cars
16 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) J.Alesi
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) D.Hill
(5) R.Barrichello (6) G.Berger
17 Pits: Brundle - 12s
19 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->16.401s->(2) J.Alesi
->2.736s->(3) M.Hakkinen->1.188s->(4) D.Hill
->10.217s->(5) G.Berger (6) R.Barrichello
19 Pits: Barrichello - 8.0s
20 Hill tries to take Hakkinen but fails
21 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 29.288s
21 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->20.456s->(2) J.Alesi
->2.078s->(3) M.Hakkinen->0.698s->(4) D.Hill
(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
22 7-Barrichello, 8-Herbert, 9-Brundle
22 Pits: Villeneuve - 9.5s
24 Current Positions: (1) J.Alesi->1.663s->(2) M.Hakkinen
->0.835s->(3) D.Hill->0.833s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->8.707s->(5) G.Berger (6) D.Coulthard
26 Pits: Hakkinen - 6.9s
27 Hill off into gravel at the end of the start straight,
problems with a front wheel bearing caused the off
28 Current Positions: (1) J.Alesi->4.380s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->7.300s->(3) G.Berger->16.338s->(4) M.Hakkinen
(5) R.Barrichello (6) D.Coulthard
30 7-Frentzen, 8-Salo, 9-Vestappen, 10-Brundle
30 Current Positions: (1) J.Alesi (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) G.Berger (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) R.Barrichello (6) D.Coulthard
31 Pits: Alesi - 10.4s
32 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->8.195s->(2) G.Berger
->18.325s->(3) M.Hakkinen->1.993s->(4) J.Alesi
->12.598s->(5) R.Barrichello->6.998s->(6) D.Coulthard
33 Pits: Berger - 10.4s
34 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->29.248s->(2) M.Hakkinen
->3.048s->(3) J.Alesi->7.615s->(4) G.Berger
->4.278s->(5) R.Barrichello->9.031s->(6) D.Coulthard
38 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->32.455s->(2) M.Hakkinen
->4.565s->(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) R.Barrichello (6) D.Coulthard
39 Pits: Barrichello - 9.7s
39 Diniz pull off with engine failure
40 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Hakkinen
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) D.Coulthard (6) R.Barrichello
40 7-Brundle, 8-Herbert
41 Pits: Brundle - 8.9s
42 Pits: Villeneuve - 7.4s
42 Pits: Coulthard - 9.5s
42 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Hakkinen
->6.646s->(3) J.Alesi->1.124s->(4) G.Berger
(5) D.Coulthard (6) R.Barrichello
43 Alesi's engine is smoking
44 Pits: Hakkinen - 7.4s
45 Pits: Alesi - retires
45 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->19.880s->(2) G.Berger
->16.000s->(3) M.Hakkinen (4) D.Coulthard
(5) R.Barrichello
48 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) G.Berger
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
48 7-Salo, 8-Frentzen, 9-Herbert
50 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->20.602s->(2) G.Berger
->19.499s->(3) M.Hakkinen->17.387s->(4) R.Barrichello
->15.362s->(5) D.Coulthard->30.000s->(6) M.Brundle
52 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) G.Berger
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
52 7-Salo, 8-Frentzen, 9-Herbert, 10-Verstappen, 11-Fisichella
53 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) G.Berger
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
53 11 cars left
54 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->21.847s->(2) G.Berger
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
56 Top 6 all well spread out
57 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->20.000s->(2) G.Berger
->25.000s->(3) M.Hakkinen->15.000s->(4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
59 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) G.Berger
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
60 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) G.Berger
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) R.Barrichello
(5) D.Coulthard (6) M.Brundle
61 Villeneuve WINS
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auto-moto.376space.ace,
## Kad smo već kod Ferrarija, bili smo tomislavr i ja prošle nedelje u
## Beranovcu, gledali trke domaćeg prvenstva. E pa safety car je bio
## jedan žuti Ferrari 355 cabrio. Ljudi, kako ta makina izgleda i
## zvuči!
Bio sam i ja, i znaš čija je to makina? Mladog sina našeg predsednika
:)).
auto-moto.377djcorto,
> Dakle, ode Ferari. :(( Zbog prvog vozaca Kretena mi nesto i
> nije zao ali ako propadne Ferari onda to vise nije to. :(
Ja jedva prezalih Lotus .... a sad i braca Italijani ;(
Ovo sto se desava je stvarno, ali stvarno SRAMOTA. Nisu tyu
bitni vozaci, oni se i trude, ali da u dve trke izdrze ni deset
krugova ukupno .... :(
Lepo je bilo dok je trajalo :(
auto-moto.378djcorto,
> Bio sam i ja, i znas cija je to makina? Mladog sina naseg
> predsednika :)).
Cek, a Jaguar XJS kabrio, sivi metalik, sa italijanskim
tablicama ???????
auto-moto.379giovanni,
Ę? Dakle, ode Ferari. :(( Zbog prvog vozača Kretena mi nešto i nije
Ę? žao ali ako propadne Ferari onda to više nije to. :(
Ma šta "ode". Ferrari *ne može* da propadne. To je kao kad bi rekao:
"Ispade zvezda ili Partizan u drugu ligu". To, naprosto, ne može.
auto-moto.380giovanni,
Ę? Čuo sam priče da je Anjeli dobio infarkt, a da se Tod obesio.
Ę? Da li je to tačno? ;)
Da, da. A Frank Williams kupio Ferrari i pola FIAT-a. ;)
auto-moto.381schef,
Videste li vi što pogibe onaj u Indy Car-u? Jel' ima neko neke bliže
podatke?
Srleř
auto-moto.382mila,
> Bio sam i ja, i znaš čija je to makina? Mladog sina našeg predsednika
> :)).
Greška! Ta makina pripada Vladi Kovačeviću, vlasniku tima"TREF", a kako
su on i Marko u jako dobrim odnosima, moguće je da je Marko koji put
upravljao pomenutim. btw, Ferrari, žut? BLJAK. :)
auto-moto.383stevicm,
> Hil se nest zajebo na kocenju
Po izjavi Hila 4-5 krugova pre izletanja, je primetio da nesto nije
u redu sa sistemom upravljanja, sto su posle i ljudi iz ekipe
potvrdili tj rekli da je pukla upravljacka poluga i da je Hil
dobro prosao! Inace rezultat trke je jos nezvanican zbog neke zalbe
koju je ulozio neko od zvanicnih faca trke protiv Vilneva! Rasplet se
ocekuje za vikend.
Jel neko gledao posle INDY CAR? Onaj vozac je poginuo, i mogu da vam
kazem da sam se sav najezio kad sam video sta se dogodilo!!!! UZAS!
auto-moto.384djanjusevic,
DJ> Videste li vi sto pogibe onaj u Indy Car-u? Jel' ima neko neke
DJ> blize podatke?
Poginuo je Jeff Krosnoff vozac Arciero/Wells Racing tima, kao i jedan
pomagac pokraj staze.
To nisu bile jedine zrtve tog dana :(( .Na Spa su poginuli vozac
motorcikla i sportski funkcioner koja je pokupio prethodno spomenuti.
Na reli takmicenju u Francuskoj reli vozac je kolima uleteo medju
publiku. Bilans: 4 mrtva, 28 povredjenih od toga 9 u kriticnom stanju.
auto-moto.385space.ace,
## Cek, a Jaguar XJS kabrio, sivi metalik, sa italijanskim
## tablicama ???????
Nemam pojma o tom automobilu. Šta ste očekivali, da čovek ima samo
jedan auto? Pa treba mu auto za ponedeljak, utorak, sredu, državne
praznike, rođendane,.... :)
auto-moto.386space.ace,
Ko ima priliku neka obavezno pogleda reprizu Indy Car trke u Torontu, koja
je vožena u nedelju. Trku karakteriše spektakularan udes i pogibija jednog
vozača (nisam stigao da mu vidim ime :( ), koji je vozio Reinard Toyotu,
inače plavi bolid (koliko sam uspeo da vidim). Bolid je pred krivinom
prešao preko točka bolida ispred sebe, poleteo u vazduh, udario u žičanu
ogradu sa desne strane i raspao se paramparčad. Motor je sa zadnjim točkovima
nastavio da klizi po stazi, dok se nije zaustavio na kraju krivine, dok
je kokpit, iako ceo, zveknuo u drugi zid. Vozač je ostao na mestu mrtav, i
to je već druga pogibija ove sezone u Indy-Car Šampionatu :(.
Zaista tragično...
auto-moto.387obren,
> Ma šta "ode". Ferrari *ne može* da propadne. To je kao kad bi rekao:
> "Ispade zvezda ili Partizan u drugu ligu". To, naprosto, ne može.
Da, zaista Ferrari ima takvu istoriju i toliko navijača po svetu da
bi bilo neverovatno da propadne. Ako ništa drugo, skupljaće fanovi po
svetu dobrotvorne priloge ako FIAT ne bude hteo više da ih finansira :)
Druga stvar je što nije ni u interesu FIA-e da se ugasi jedan toliko
harizmatičan tim (zbog gledanosti F1) pa bi i oni sigurno lobirali ako
bude stani-pani...
auto-moto.389giovanni,
Ę? potvrdili tj rekli da je pukla upravljacka poluga i da je Hil
Ę? dobro prosao! Inace rezultat trke je jos nezvanican zbog neke zalbe
Nisam ovo čuo ali ako je to istina onda bi Franka Williamsa i njegovu
ekipu trebalo doživotno izbaciti iz formule 1. Zbog iste stvari je
Ayrton Senna poginuo. Daj Bože da ih osude oni u Italiji.
Ę? Jel neko gledao posle INDY CAR? Onaj vozac je poginuo, i mogu da vam
Ę? kazem da sam se sav najezio kad sam video sta se dogodilo!!!! UZAS!
Ja nisam gledao sve, ali sam video na raznim televizijama snimke te
nesreće. Ono je zaista užasno. Čini mi se da je još neko poginuo, da li
onaj redar kraj staze? Izgledalo je na snimku kao da je točak bolida
zakačio one ljude iza ograde ali nisam baš siguran da li je to stvarno
ili mi se priviđalo. Automobil onog nesrećnika se raspao skoro na atome
a izgleda da se gorivo prosulo kad je pukao rezervoar po onom drugom
bolidu koji je prošao uz levu ogradu. Stvarno strašno.
Inače, ovaj vikend je jedan od najgorih u poslednje vreme. I na ne znam
kom reliju je vozač sleteo sa staze pravo u publiku. Mislim da rekoše da
je 6 osoba poginulo.
auto-moto.390dusko,
> Jel neko gledao posle INDY CAR? Onaj vozac je poginuo, i mogu
> da vam kazem da sam se sav najezio kad sam video sta se
> dogodilo!!!! UZAS!
Gledao sam jutros snimak.
Stvarno pravi užas. Poginuo je vozač i jedan od sudija pored staze koga
je bolid u letu udario u glavu. Inače sam trenutak sudara se ne vidi baš
najbolje. Vidi se bolid koji na kraju _dugog_ pravca udara između dva
bolida ispred koji su već malte ne ušli u krivinu. Zatim je bolid
poleteo, u vazduhu se okrenuo, udario sudiju, a onda se raspao. Motor i
menjač na jednu stranu, a vozačeva ćelija na drugu. Udes se dogodio 4-5
krugova pre kraja trke.
Pobedio je (prvi put) Fernandez, 2. Zanardi, 3. Bobi Rejhal, ... Vaser i
dalje vodi u generalnom, Zanardi je sa 6. došao na (valjda) 4., a bodove
od favorita nije pokupio Andreti (odustao) i De Feran.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.391dusko,
> Ferrari, žut? BLJAK. :)
Potpisujem.
Pozdrav,
Duško
auto-moto.392ljubisha,
>Stvarno pravi užas. Poginuo je vozač i jedan od sudija pored staze koga
>je bolid u letu udario u glavu. Inače sam trenutak sudara se ne vidi baš
>najbolje. Vidi se bolid koji na kraju _dugog_ pravca udara između dva
>bolida ispred koji su već malte ne ušli u krivinu. Zatim je bolid
Videlo se odlično (jedino je kamera krenula u shrink pa je slow moution
malo slabiji) i mislim da bi Johansenu (16?) trebalo zabraniti da vozi. La-
dno je počeo preticanje bez gledanja u retrovizor i ishod je užasan. :(
>poleteo, u vazduhu se okrenuo, udario sudiju, a onda se raspao. Motor i
Desni prednji točak. Verovatno ga je tako samleo da... njihova sigurno-
st na pistama. :(
auto-moto.394djanjusevic,
DJ> je kokpit, iako ceo, zveknuo u drugi zid. Vozac je ostao na mestu
DJ> mrtav, i to je vec druga pogibija ove sezone u Indy-Car
DJ> Sampionatu :(.
Ne, to je prva u CART sampionatu, dok se ona u maju dogodila u IRL
samp.
auto-moto.395tomislavr,
> Dakle, ode Ferari. :(( Zbog prvog vozača Kretena mi nešto i nije
> žao ali ako propadne Ferari onda to više nije to. :(
Ko kreten? Da nije tog "kretena" Ferrari nebi video ni jedno
mesto medju prvih sest, a kamoli onu pobedu koju je Sumaher
odneo kada nije bilo vazno koliko "konja" ti ima masina..
E, stvarno, Sumaher je _daleko_ najbolji vozac u F1. Kako John
Watson rece - "Simply, He is the best driver on the track..."
O:)
auto-moto.396mila,
> Ko kreten? Da nije tog "kretena" Ferrari nebi video ni jedno
> mesto medju prvih sest, a kamoli onu pobedu koju je Sumaher
E, znaš kako: da je moja baba imala onu stvar... Ferrari je
tim koji puno vredi, i ne služi se anonimnim pretnjama i pismima
u stilu: "Ako danas pobediš, desiće ti se to i to" što je, setićeš
se, Hill doživljavao, a sumnja pala na tvog ljubimca i njegove
pulene. I, podsećam na pretprošlu sezonu (završnicu): Ako nije
u stanju da sportski podnese poraz koji nastaje zbog njegove
greške, ne treba ni da se bavi sportom. I, još ovo: za face koje
samo majka može da voli, a one izjavljuju kako su najlepše, ja bih,
da se nešto ja pitam, uveo obavezan test IQ na verifikaciji pre
takmičenja.
auto-moto.397tomislavr,
Utorak, 16. Jul, 1996
Predsednik Ferarija Luca di Montezemolo je premestio dva radnika
kontrole kvaliteta u drugo odeljenje. Smatra se da su njih dvojica
direktno odgovorni za tehničke probleme F310. Oba Ferarijeva bolida
su zavšila trku pre 10. kruga u Silverstonu.
auto-moto.398tomislavr,
Nedelja, 14. Jul, 1996
Schumacher: " Something silly happened, an oil-ring came loose and I
lost all my hydraulic power. I couldn't use my throttle or change gear
so I was forced to come round back to the pits in sixth. (...) It's a
very small thing but those can stop you and it's very similar to the
incident that ended my race when I was leading in Monte Carlo in
1993."
Beneton je uložio žalbu na Vilneovu pobedu u Silverstonu. Beneton je
tražio od zvaničnika da ispitaju regulatnost prednjih krilaca jer
smatraju da nisu bila simetrična kako bi trebalo da budu. FIA je
žalbu odbacila i potvrdila Vilneovu pobedu.
auto-moto.399tomislavr,
Ponedeljak, 8. Jul, 1996
Frentzen/Williams
Ispostavilo se da priče o Frencenovom prelasku u Vilijams sledeće godine
nisu samo priče. Izgleda da je nemački vozač već potpisao predugovor,
a Frenk Vilijams će o tome odlučiti pre GP-a u Britaniji. Međutim,
Reno je jasno istakao da želi da zadrži svetskog šampiona jer žele da
na svom bolidu u poslednjoj sezoni imaju broj jedan.
Schumacher/Merecedes
Michael Schumacher je opovrgao priče da će u bliskoj budućnosti
voziti za Mercedes. Schumacher: "Ferrari and I are negotiating a
contract for 1998, and Ferrari wants my signature as soon as
possible."
auto-moto.400tomislavr,
FERRARI Press release
Silverstone, 14th July 1996
Another double retirement for the Ferrari team. Michael Schumacher
retired from the British Grand Prix on the third lap, while lying
fourth, with a fault that caused a total loss of pressure in the
gearbox hydraulic system, leaving him stuck in sixth gear. Eddie
Irvine had to pit three laps later, when lying sixth because of a
broken differential bearing.
"This is absurd," said the World Champion. "But in racing, things like
this can happen, even if it seems very strange. However I do not
accept speculations as to what happened. Do not forget that go through
similar situations like this for three races in a row is more
frustrating for the team than it is for me. After Magny Cours we had
tested at Monza and Imola with satisfactory results and covered a high
mileage without any failure. Then here, we have run for two days
without any problems. It is often the case that little things cause
the biggest dramas. But together we must overcome this difficult
moment and we will succeed."
"I always seem to be cursed with bad luck at Silverstone, " said
Irvine. "Both in the lower formulas and in Formula 1, the most
incredible things have always happened to me here. Today I made a good
start and things were going well and then suddenly... Things like this
can happen when you are developing the car in the course of the
season. We must not get demoralised. We have so many new things in the
pipeline and you will see that this black period will end."
Just like the two drivers, Sporting Director Jean Todt, while being
very concerned about this series of different failures, believes that
Ferrari can emerge from this difficult period only concentrating on
the actual problems and working to solve them. "It seems impossible
at our races continue to last for such a short time, while in
testing, which we do every week, we manage to complete race distances,
" said Todt. "I feel very sorry for every member of the team, because
they are all good people, and I also feel sorry for our fans. But to
draw conclusions after these terrible six weeks does not seem right to
me. We were comeptitive in the first few races and I am sure that we
will be even more so again, for the rest of the season. Only then, at
the end of the year we can assess our performance."
auto-moto.401tomislavr,
> tim koji puno vredi, i ne služi se anonimnim pretnjama i pismima
> u stilu: "Ako danas pobediš, desiće ti se to i to" što je, setićeš
> se, Hill doživljavao, a sumnja pala na tvog ljubimca i njegove
^^^^^^
Po ko zna koji put ljudi mešaju ono što se dešava van staze sa
onim na stazi. Da li neko šalje Hilu pisamca, a taj neko
_sigurno_ nije Šumaher :)), teško da može imati uticaja na
vožnju Hila koja je prošle godine bila katastrofalna. Na stazi
imamo Hila koji vozi kao baba ;) i Šumahera koji vozi kao car
O:). Da li nekom, čak i Hilovim navijačima, mogu biti zanimljive
ove trke kada Vilijamsi povedu i "provezu" do kraja? E, pa takve
trke će da potraju dok god se Ferrari ne digne na noge i Šumi
počne da ih lovi, kao u stara dobra vremena ;)
A što se tiče Šumaherovih izjava, čovek kad sluša "glupana i
tupana" i druge "nepristrasne novinare" koji izjavljuju da bi
"bilo mnogo atraktivnije da se Šumaher zapalio umesto Panisa",
taj Šumaher ispadne veliko đubre.
Koliko se ja sećam, kad su imali približne bolide (Benetton-Reno
i Williams-Reno) Šumaher je Hila obilazio kao direk :)
auto-moto.402mila,
> Po ko zna koji put ljudi mešaju ono što se dešava van staze sa
> onim na stazi.
Pazi ovako: Kao čovek koji se usudio da se oproba za volanom
takmičarskog vozila na takmičenjima, mogu ti reći da dešavanja
van staze itekako utiču na dešavanja na stazi. Tu, budi siguran,
ni Fanđo nije bio izuzetak, kao što nisu izuzeci ni Hil ni Šumaher.
> _sigurno_ nije Šumaher :)),
Sedeo si pored njega u to vreme?
> imamo Hila koji vozi kao baba ;) i Šumahera koji vozi kao car
Bilo bi mi zanimljivo videti kako izgleda baba na stazi. Još zanimljivije
videti tvoju facu posle jednog kruga u autu sa tom "babom". Bez uvrede!
BTW, znači, carevima je dopušteno da ne poštuju propise, služe se podvalama,
ne gledaju u retrovizor za vreme trke, itd, itd.?!?!?!
> O:). Da li nekom, čak i Hilovim navijačima, mogu biti zanimljive
> ove trke kada Vilijamsi povedu i "provezu" do kraja?
Sigurno da mogu! :))
Šumaher ispadne veliko đubre.
Ni kriv, ni dužan?>
Koliko se ja sećam, kad su imali približne bolide (Benetton-Reno
> i Williams-Reno) Šumaher je Hila obilazio kao direk :)
Nećeš mi valjda pričati priču da su Alezi i Berger toliki levaci?
Ili je možda Benetton popustio u kvalitetu zato što više Šumaher ne vozi
za njih?
Uzgred, zanima me tvoje mišljenje o tome ko je bio bolji (kompletniji)
vozač u prethodnom duelu, Prost ili Senna?
auto-moto.403obren,
Monza, 17. Jul - Ferarijevi pripremni testovi za Nemački GP 28. jula,
nastavljeni na stazi u Monci.
Mihael Šumaher je vozio bolid F310 sa novim zadnjim ogibljenjem i
difuzorom. Menjač je bio isti onaj koji je korišćen u dosadašnjem toku
šampionata (6 brzina). Šumaher se koncentrisao na testiranje guma i
iznalaženje optimalnog setapa za test vožnju kompletne trke koja je
predviđena za sutra. On je danas odvezao 35 krugova sa najboljim
vremenom od 1m 26.08s. Testiranje je prekinuto ranije nego što je
planirano zbog otkazivanja motora (!). Po završetku ovog testa, tim
će analizirati dobijene rezultate i odlučiti koje nove komponente će
biti korišćene na trci u Hokenhajmu.
Edi Irvajn je takođe vozio F310 u skoro identičnoj postavci kao na
trci u Silverstonu, osim što je bio opremljen novim sedmostepenim
menjačem. Irvajn je provezao 68 krugova i postigao najbolje vreme
od 1m 27.788s.
auto-moto.404obren,
Monza, 18. Jul - Ferari nastavlja testove za GP Nemačke
Šumaher je danas uspešno odvezao punu kilometražu na test-trci u Monci.
Rezultati su bili veoma ohrabrujući posle serije odustajanja na prethodnim
trka. Šumaher je postavio najbolje vreme od 1:25.543 što je skoro sekundu
bolje od prošlogodišnjeg najboljeg rezultata u Monzi koji je postavio
Gerhard Berger. Tim je odlučio da se na trci u Hokenhajmu koriste svi
novotestirani delovi osim sedmostepenog menjača.
auto-moto.405tomislavr,
>> imamo Hila koji vozi kao baba ;) i Šumahera koji vozi kao car
> zanimljivije videti tvoju facu posle jednog kruga u autu sa tom
> "babom".
Naravno da nisam misliio bukvalno da Hil vozi kao baba. U F1 su
dvadesetak najboljih vozača na svetu, ne računajući one koji su
tu zbog sponzora, a Hil je sigurno među boljima. A ono - "baba"
se odnosilo na način na koji Hil vozi. Stekao sam dojam da Hil
čim se nađe u "gužvi" gubi kontrolu, ne zna da obiđe malo brže
vozače, ako se nađe "pod pritiskom" greši - a to nisu odlike
vrhunskih vozača. Zanima me šta se tebi kao profesionalcu sviđa
u vožnji Hila?
A, voleo bih da vidim Hilovu facu posle jednog kruga u autu
samnom. ;>
>> Koliko se ja sećam, kad su imali približne bolide (Benetton-Reno
>> i Williams-Reno) Šumaher je Hila obilazio kao direk :)
> Nećeš mi valjda pričati priču da su Alezi i Berger toliki levaci?
> Ili je možda Benetton popustio u kvalitetu zato što više Šumaher
> ne vozi za njih?
Sa Benetonima nešto nije u redu, definitivno. Jeste da je šasija
pretrpela velike promene ali pad kvaliteta je stvarno veliki.
Pored tehničkih problema, Šumahera je zamenio Alezi, i tu treba
tražiti razloge.
Izvini zbog kašnjenja odgovora, imam tehničkih problema :)
auto-moto.406mila,
> vrhunskih vozača. Zanima me šta se tebi kao profesionalcu sviđa
> u vožnji Hila?
Sasvim je moguće da sam malo i pristrasan, ali budi siguran da sin
jednog Grahama Hila jednostavno ne može da bude loš vozač. Pošto
si mlađi momak, uzmi neku od starijih revija, pa nađi i pročitaj
ponešto o pomenutom velikanu.BTW, Hil je ipak jedan od Prostovih
đaka i sledbenika, a to odmah garantuje kompletnost vozača. To
što tebi izgleda da je Hil nesnalažljiv u gužvi, samo znači da
nije spreman da neku nesmotrenost plati glavom. Radije čeka rasplet
situacije na trećem mestu, i na kraju pobeđuje(a to treba umeti),
nego da uz ogroman rizik vodi celu trku i na kraju odustaje. Ovo ne
kao stalni postupak (što se i da primetiti), već kao način razmišljanja
za volanom. Bilo bi zanimljivo videti duel Hil-Šumaher na nekom reliju,
koji iziskuje baš pomenutu kompletnos vozača kao kategoriju.
> A, voleo bih da vidim Hilovu facu posle jednog kruga u autu
> samnom. ;>
Ovo bi zaista bilo zanimljivo videti ;>.
p.s. Kašnjenje mog odgovora je usledilo zbog moje odsutnosti od računara
tokom vikenda. Pozdrav, Krole B)
auto-moto.407space.ace,
## A, voleo bih da vidim Hilovu facu posle jednog kruga u autu
## samnom. ;>
Naravno, da bi Hill seo sa tobom u kola, moram prvo ja da proverim
da li si dostojan tako nečega! So, moram ja prvo da te istestiram
na Beranovcu, pa će se dogovorim sa Damon-om
;))
auto-moto.408obren,
GP Nemačke, Hokenhajm, prvi trening:
Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 G.Berger Benetton 1m 46.145s 2 1m 46.567s
2 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 46.184s 8 1m 47.495s
3 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 46.198s 7 1m 47.418s
4 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 46.294s 3 1m 46.779s
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 46.384s 1 1m 46.384s
6 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 46.487s 10 1m 48.489s
7 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 46.959s 6 1m 47.378s
8 D.Hill Williams 1m 46.998s 4 1m 46.998s
9 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 47.110s 5 1m 47.110s
10 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 47.534s 12 1m 48.854s
11 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 47.586s 11 1m 48.548s
12 O.Panis Ligier 1m 47.668s 15 1m 49.513s
13 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 48.157s 9 1m 48.157s
14 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 49.220s 13 1m 49.220s
15 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 49.243s 14 1m 49.243s
16 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 49.629s 16 1m 49.629s
17 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 49.843s 17 1m 49.843s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 50.815s 19 1m 50.895s
19 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 50.872s 18 1m 50.872s
---- 107% ---- 1m 53.575s
20 G.Lavaggi Minardi 1m 54.685s 20 1m 54.685s
auto-moto.409obren,
Upravo su završene kvalifikacije, ono se ne može opisati! Ko nije
gledao ne zna đta je propustio! Klanje iz kruga u krug, obaranje
maksimalne brzine i razlike manje od 1 desetinke sekunde. Bukvalno
do zadnjeg minuta Šumaher je imao polpoziciju, ali u zadnjim sekundama
Hill ga skida za pola sekunde! :) Ako ovakva bude trka strefiće me
srčka ;)
1. Hill
2. Berger
3. Schumacher
4. Hakkinen
5. Alesi
6. Villeneuve
7. Coulthard
8. Irvine
...
auto-moto.410mila,
> do zadnjeg minuta Šumaher je imao polpoziciju, ali u zadnjim sekundama
Mala ispravka; Posle zadnjih sekundi, Hill skida Šumahera za nešto
više od pola sekunde, ali se to priznaje, jer je započeo krug za vreme
dok još oficijelni sat nije otucao nulu :))))
auto-moto.411obren,
Evo i vremena sa današnjih kvalifikacija za GP Nemačke (Hokenhajm):
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 43.912s
2 G.Berger Benetton 1m 44.299s
3 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 44.477s
4 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 44.644s
5 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 44.670s
6 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 44.842s
7 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 44.951s
8 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 45.389s
9 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 45.452s
10 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 45.876s
11 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 46.575s
12 O.Panis Ligier 1m 46.746s
13 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 46.899s
14 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 47.711s
15 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 48.139s
16 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 48.381s
17 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 48.512s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 49.460s
19 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 49.551s
20 G.Lavaggi Minardi 1m 51.357s
auto-moto.413obren,
GP Nemačke, Hokenhajm
Trka je bila izuzetno uzbudljiva, naročito na taktičkom polju. Odlično su
startovali Berger, Alesi i Coulthard, dok je Hill koji je imao polpoziciju
pao na treće mesto odmah posle starta. Trka je ušla u mirne vode sve do
prvih ulazaka u boks, kada se pokazalo da su se Vilijams i Beneton odlučili
za različite taktike - Vilijams za dva a Beneton, ponovo, za jedan ulazak
u boks.
Hil posle pit-stopova izbija na 1. mesto što koristi i ostavlja
drugoplasiranog Bergera i do dve sekunde po krugu. Međutim, pred finiš trke
Hil mora na još jedno dolivanje goriva sa prednošću od 16-ak sekundi,
nakon koga se vraća na drugo mesto, iza Bergera. Nakon toga počinje vrlo
uzbudljiva borba za prvu poziciju.
Hil relativno lako skida svoj zaostatak od oko 5 sekundi nakon izlaska
iz boksa i počinje igru živaca sa Bergerom. Međutim, iskusni Austrijanac
vozi perfektno ne dajući Dejmonu ni najmanju priliku da ga obiđe. Na
žalost, u poslednjim krugovima Bergerov motor otkazuje uz spektakularnu
eksploziju. Naravno, Hil ovo koristi i bez većih problema prvi prolazi
kroz cilj. Velika tragedija za Bergera koji je vozio jednu od najboljih
trka u ovoj sezoni, briljirajući i na kvalifikacijama.
Od zanimljivosti bih izdvojio da je Mika Hakinen vozio nešto modifikovanu
verziju motora za kvalifikacije! Na žalost Finac je sredinom trke morao
da odustane, najverovatnije zbog kvara menjača. Ferrari pokazuje da ipak
nije dorastao snagom za ovako brze staze, jer sve vreme zaostajao za
vodećom trojkom Berger, Alezi, Hil. Ipak Šumaher je uspeo da završi
trku za razliku od Irvajna kome je, opet, eksplodirao motor... :(
Plasman na kraju trke:
1. Hill
2. Alesi
3. Villeneuve
4. Schumacher
5. Coulthard
6. Barrichello
7. Panis
8. Frentzen
auto-moto.414mila,
auto-moto.415mila,
Tomislave, komentari? ;)
auto-moto.416lexus,
=> Tomislave, komentari? ;)
Daj Šumaheru isti bolid koji Hill ima, pa ćeš
videti komentare ;>
auto-moto.417obren,
Formula 1: German Grand Prix, Hockenheim
Notes from Qualifying:
- David Coulthard was fastest through the speed traps at 341.7kph
- Minardi put in a protest against Damon Hill breaking a rule in the pits.
The judges cleared Hill. If Hill had been found guilty his pole time would
be disallowed and Lavaggi (for Minardi) would be within the 107% rule and
could race.
- For a time Tyrrell ran front tires on the back in an attempt to reduce the
aerodynamic drag. Using this configuration Katayama set his fastest lap.
Renault blowup gives Hill victory
---------------------------------
Damon Hill watched as the car he had been shadowing for the last 8 laps blows
its Renault engine and retires on to the grass. Thus ended a great race by
Gerhard Berger just 3 laps from the end. Hill continued on to his 20th win
with Alesi second and Villeneuve third.
At the start Hill lost his pole advantage before the first corner as Berger
came past followed quickly by Alesi (from 5th on the grid !!). This trio
quickly pulled away from the next group of Schumacher, Coulthard, Villeneuve,
Irvine and Hakkinen. Disaster struck for Hakkinen on lap 13 when his gearbox
failed after a pit stop.
The only Ferrari failure came on lap 34 when a smoking Irvine pulled onto the
grass. Schumacher hung on to finish fourth but was never really in the race.
After a round of pit stops Hill was in the lead and trying to pull away from
Berger, not far enough though as Berger crept back into the lead during Hills
final stop. Hill quickly caught Berger but could not find a way past - and
then the engine blew and there was no more Berger.
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
──────────────────┬────────────┬───────────────────────────
1 D.Hill │ Williams │ 1hr 21m 43.417s (45 Laps)
2 J.Alesi │ Benetton │ Gap 0m 11.542s
3 J.Villeneuve │ Williams │ Gap 0m 33.926s
4 M.Schumacher │ Ferrari │ Gap 0m 41.517s
5 D.Coulthard │ McLaren │ Gap 0m 42.196s
6 R.Barrichello │ Jordan │ Gap 1m 42.099s
7 O.Panis │ Ligier │ Gap 1m 43.912s
8 H.Frentzen │ Sauber │ Laps behind: 1
9 M.Salo │ Tyrrell │ Laps behind: 1
10 M.Brundle │ Jordan │ Laps behind: 1
11 R.Rosset │ Footwork │ Laps behind: 1
12 P.Lamy │ Minardi │ Laps behind: 2
13 G.Berger │ Benetton │ Laps behind: 3
Drivers Championship Constructors Championship
────────────────────────────┬─────────────────────────────────
│
1 D.Hill 73 │ 1 Williams 125
2 J.Villeneuve 52 │ 2 Benetton 47
3 J.Alesi 31 │ 3 Ferrari 38
4 M.Schumacher 29 │ 4 McLaren 34
5 D.Coulthard 18 │ 5 Jordan 14
6 M.Hakkinen 16 │ 6 Ligier 12
G.Berger 16 │ 7 Sauber 10
8 R.Barrichello 11 │ 8 Tyrrell 5
O.Panis 11 │ 9 Footwork 1
10 E.Irvine 9 │
11 H.Frentzen 6 │
12 M.Salo 5 │
13 J.Herbert 4 │
14 M.Brundle 3 │
15 J.Verstappen 1 │
P.Diniz 1 │
(Izvor: Gale Force F1)
auto-moto.418mila,
> Daj Šumaheru isti bolid koji Hill ima, pa ćeš
> videti komentare ;>
Šalu na stranu, ja lično Šumahera ne volim, i imam za to svoje
razloge. Mislim da je veoma kvaran vozač, koji ne može da podnese
neuspeh, naduvenko koji misli da je najbolji a to zapravo i nije.
Meni je, npr. kao Hilovom obožavaocu, jako žao Bergera danas, i
mislim da je on najveći tragičar ove trke. Jeste on zatvarao prolaz
Hilu, ali je to radio samo dozvoljenim sredstvima. Ni u jednom
momentu nije bilo kritične situacije, iako se vodila veoma oštra
borba između njih. Tako to rade pravi asovi, oni koje ja nazivam
kompletnim vozačima, ako si čitao prethodnu prepisku Tomislava i
mene. Da je Šumaher bio na Bergerovom mestu, zapitaj se i u prethodnim
iskustvima potraži odgovor, kako bi postupio? Ja sam mišljenja da
bi navukao Hila da krene u preticanje, pa namotao na njega, što bi
dovelo do toga da Hill naglo koči, okrene se ili slično, čime bi
Šumaher eliminisao opasnost sa svog vrata, a to što time ugrožava
nečiji život, uopšte nije važno. Ja takve sportiste, i ljude uopšte,
ne volim. Priznaćeš, zaista imam razloga. zar ne? Krole B)
auto-moto.419tomislavr,
> neuspeh, naduvenko koji misli da je najbolji a to zapravo i nije.
Reci mi kad si ti čuo izjavu Šumahera tipa - "Ja sam najbolji". Čuo sam
mnogo njegovih izjava, zato što se trudim da ih lično čujem, a ne da mi
ih prepričaju "glupan i tupan". Gledati i čitati o F1 u Jugoslaviji je
isto kao i slušati o opoziciji na "Dnevniku". Sve sam više uveren da
kategorija "navijač Hila" ne postoji, da ste svi vi grupa "mrzim
Šumahera". Ja znam da ćete ako Hil ode iz Vilijamsa, što mu izgleda ne
gine, svi naprasno postati navijači Vilneva ili Kultarda, tj. bilo koga
ko može da skine Šumaheru titulu.
> momentu nije bilo kritične situacije, iako se vodila veoma oštra
Gde si video "oštru borbu". Hil je pokušavao da obiđe Bergera, od koga
je bio _vidno_ brži, a to svi znamo da ne ume ;). Doduše moguće je da je
taktizirao dva kruga pred kraj čekajući razvoj situacije. Ono što želim
da kažem je da je ovo prvi put u sezoni da je neko "pokazao zube" Hilu,
i odmah se povampirio Hil iz '95 - slab, neodlučan, nikakav :)
> mene. Da je Šumaher bio na Bergerovom mestu, zapitaj se i u
Da je Šumaher bio na Bergerovom mestu, tj. u Benetonu, Hil ga nebi
video :)
> mišljenja da bi navukao Hila da krene u preticanje, pa namotao na
> njega, što bi dovelo do toga da Hill naglo koči, okrene se ili
Kao prošle godine u Silverstonu, ili Monci ;). Hil je prošle godine dva
puta napravio sra*e, ali ja mu to ne uzimam za zlo, on je ipak test
vozač ;>
Evo da ne bude da samo tupim malo vesti. Po svemu sudeći, najviše šanse
da se uglavi u Vilijams '98 ima BMW (tako bar kažu na Jurosportu). U tom
paketu morao bi H.H. Frencen da vozi za Vilijams jer BMW traži Nemačkog
vozača, tako da će Hil verovatno morati da traži gazdu, jer je onaj skot
u kolicima izjavio da Vilnev sigurno ostaje, a za Hila se ne zna.
auto-moto.420mila,
> Reci mi kad si ti čuo izjavu Šumahera tipa - "Ja sam najbolji". Čuo sam
> mnogo njegovih izjava, zato što se trudim da ih lično čujem, a ne da mi
> ih prepričaju "glupan i tupan". Gledati i čitati o F1 u Jugoslaviji je
Nije li re dve godine taj glupan i tupan bio slučajno baš
Džon Votson na Eurosportu, prenoseći Šumaherovu izjavu, nakon koje je, ako
uopšte pratiš te stvari, Berger pobesneo na Šumahera? ;>
auto-moto.421vstan,
> Plasman na kraju trke:
>
> 1. Hill
> 2. Alesi
Kakvo je stanje sa bodovima ?
auto-moto.422tomislavr,
> je, ako uopšte pratiš te stvari, Berger pobesneo na Šumahera? ;>
Cela ta frka oko Bergera i Šumahera je počela u Brazilu '95, posle
vraćenja pobede Šumaheru kada se Berger pobunio (on bi bio pobednik da
Šumiju nisu vratili pobedu), na šta mu je Šumaher rekao da je talentovan
za vožnju koliko i za priču, možda bi koju trku i pobedio, a ne bi
zaostao čitav krug... Od tad se oni mrze kao Nemci ;), a da Berger nije
cvećka mogao si i skoro da se uveriš jer se skoro nešto "kačio" sa
Brandlom. Drago mi je da Šumi i Hil nikada nisu pokazali neku veću
netrpeljivost jer Hila smatram OK čovekom ali test vozačem ;)
Ovo sad "Hil je bolji - Šumaher je bolji" može da ide u večnost. Ko je
bolji pokazaće vreme, a ja mislim da dobar pokazatelj i to ko je koliko
plaćen za svoj posao ;)
Uaaaa Hil :)
auto-moto.423obren,
> Kakvo je stanje sa bodovima ?
Poruka 11.417 :)
auto-moto.424obren,
Četvrtak, 29. Jul 1996.
Hajnc Herald Frencen je izgleda potpisao ugovor sa Vilijamsom za narednu
Sezonu. U zadnjem broju nemačkog "Autosporta" izvori bliski Vilijamsu
potvrdili su ovu iznenađujuću vest. Žal Vilnev je učvrstio svoj status
u Vilijamsu dvogodišnjim ugovorom i on je jedini siguran vozač za 1997.
godinu, tako da je izgleda Dejmon Hill "višak" na čije mesto će uskočiti
ovaj nemački vozač.
Sam Vilijams je negirao ovu vest, tvrdeći da su ovo špekulacije koje
potiču iz Engleske štampe. Hilov menadžer je takođe odbacio ove vesti
ističući da Vilijams želi da zadrži Hila i da su glasine o Frencenu
neozbiljne.
Kako se saznaje, Dejmon Hil zahteva 18.6 miliona dolara da bi sledeće
sezone vozio za Vilijams, pa je moguće da je "priča" o Frencenu pokušaj
Frenka Vilijamsa da snizi njegovu cenu. Međutim, poznato je da Vilijams
već duže vreme pokazuje interesovanje za nemačkog vozača. Frencenu je
ponuđeno da se pridruži timu nakon smrti Airtona Sene 1994. godine ali
je on odbio i ostao u Zauberu.
auto-moto.425obren,
Ponedeljak, 29. Jul 1996.
Glasine oko napuštanja Vilijamsa od strane Dejmona Hila se nastavljaju.
Postoji mogućnost da Hil od sledeće sezone vozi za Rona Denisa, odnosno
njegov Meklaren-Mercedes tim.
Mercedes, koji lagano napreduje sa performansama svojih motora u F1,
zainteresovan je za Hila obzirom da njihov ljuti nemački konkurent, BMW,
udružuje snage sa timom Frenka Vilijamsa. Mercedes će sam finansirati
dolazak Dejmona Hila kako bi ovaj nosio broj 1 na njihovom bolidu,
obezbedio vodeće mesto Mercedesa među nemačkim konstruktorima motora,
i uopšte ojačao pozicije Meklaren-Mercedesa u narednoj sezoni.
auto-moto.426obren,
Utorak, 30. Jul 1996.
Dejmon hill je odbacio sugestije da treba da juri rekord Najdžela Mensela
i Mihaela Šumahera u broju GP pobeda u jednoj sezoni. Hill je izjavio da
je koncentrisan na pobede a ne na obaranje bilo kakvih rekorda.
"Trke se nastavljaju, treba da nastavim da pobeđujem i da se na to
koncentrišem."
Hill nestrpljivo čeka sledeću trku u Mađarskoj i kaže: "Trka u Mađarskoj
je uvek teška i veoma zahtevna za vozača, pa ću se propisno odmoriti i
dobro pripremiti za nju."
Hill sada ima slobodnu sedmicu za odmor, dok će Žak Vilnev početi seriju
testova u Nogaru u Francuskoj. Vilijamsu trebaju samo 2 boda u sledećih
pet trka da bi osigurao šampionsku titulu u kategoriji konstruktora.
auto-moto.428mila,
> Utorak, 30. Jul 1996.
> Dejmon hill je odbacio sugestije da treba da juri rekord Najdžela Mensela
ej, odakle ti ovako sveže informacije? Pohvalno, svakako, samo tako nastavi!
auto-moto.430djanjusevic,
DJ> > Dejmon hill je odbacio sugestije da treba da juri rekord Najdzel
DJ>
DJ> ej, odakle ti ovako sveze informacije? Pohvalno, svakako, samo
DJ> tako nastavi!
Ja samo da napomenem da nikako ne mogu da se izjednace rekordi
Mansell-a i Schumachera jer je losiji vozac od ove dvojce :))
postigao devet pobeda iz 17 trka, a ne iz 16.
auto-moto.431obren,
Sa Interneta, naravno :) (Atlas, Ferreri WEB site, Gele Force...)
auto-moto.432obren,
Nekoliko interesantnih izjava posle trke u Nemačkoj:
Dejmon Hil: "Izgleda da ja donosim lošu sreću na ovu trku - tako sam 1993.
vodio sa 30 sekundi prednosti i ostao bez gume u zadnjem krugu. Ovakve
stvari se dešavaju, na žalost, u trkama. Bila bi to dva zaista uzbudljiva
kruga da je Gerhard nastavio. Velika šteta za njega..."
Gerhard Berger: "Nisam imao indikacija da bilo šta nije u redu sve dok
najednom motor nije eksplodirao. Veoma sam tužan jer sam mnogo želeo ovu
pobedu, za sebe, za tim, za svakoga. Bio sam u dobroj formi i još uvek
ne mogu da poverujem da mi se to desilo..."
Mihael Šumaher: "Naravno, malo sam razočaran zbog izgubljene polpozicije,
ali nisam i iznenađen. Znao sam da moje vreme nije nedostižno i bio sam
spreman na nešto ovako ali nisam očekivao da me skinu dva vozača. Ipak,
bila je to lepa borba i siguran sam da su svi u publici uživali."
(nakon trke)
"Razočaran sam što sam završio trku tako daleko iz pobednika, ali u isto
vreme jako bitno mi je bilo da ponovo vidim crno-belu zastavu. Iako to
možda nije očigledno iz današnjih rezultata, bolid je mnogo bolji nego
na prethodnim trkama, izuzevši kočnica koje su mi zadale mnogo glavobolja.
Vilnev me je prošao samo zato što je bio u mogućnosti da iskoristi kasno
kočenje, za razliku od mene. Zaista nisam bio u mogućnosti da se odbranim
od njegovog veoma hrabrog poteza ... Ono u pit stopu nije bilo tako opasno
kao što je izgledalo (zajednički odlazak u boks sa Vilnevom i incident na
izlasku). Malo sam proklizao i tada mi se on približio, ali nije bilo
tako blizu kao što je moždai zgledalo."
(Žak Vilnev je obelodanio da Vilijamsovi inženjeri nisu detektovali da
njegov bolid ima felerično zadnje ogibljenje sve do samog početka trke)
Žak Vilnev: "Bilo bi mnogo drugačije da sam to znao u vreme kvalifikacija!"
auto-moto.433obren,
Još jedna tragedija u Indikar šampionatu. Nadajmo se da će se stari
vuk izvući...
Ponedeljak, 29. Jul 1996.
Emerson Fitipaldi, šampion 1972. i 1974. povređen je u Nedelju u teškom
sudaru na trci Mičigen 500. Kaže se da je Fitipaldi u ozbiljnom stanju
sa povredama kao što su fraktura sedmog vratnog pršljena i levo plićno
krilo koje je delimično van funkcije. Već na prvom krugu trke Emerson
se sudario sa rukijem Greg Murom (Greg Moore). Mur je takođe povrećen
u ovom sudaru.
auto-moto.434kcurcic,
> Gde si video "oštru borbu". Hil je pokušavao da obiđe Bergera, od koga
> je bio _vidno_ brži, a to svi znamo da ne ume ;). Doduše moguće je da je
Prilično interesantno - najverovatnije će ove sezone prvak
biti vozač koji nikoga nije obišao na stazi u istoj toj sezoni.
auto-moto.435ljubisha,
>Kao prošle godine u Silverstonu, ili Monci ;). Hil je prošle godine dva
>puta napravio sra*e, ali ja mu to ne uzimam za zlo, on je ipak test
>vozač ;>
Super! Hil pravi slučajne greške a Šumaher namerne i samo zbog toga
bi ga trebalo izbaciti iz Formule. Da se opameti.
auto-moto.436mila,
> Sa Interneta, naravno :) (Atlas, Ferreri WEB site, Gele Force...)
Samo nastavi, s prevodom naravno! B)
auto-moto.437space.ace,
## Reci mi kad si ti čuo izjavu Šumahera tipa - "Ja sam najbolji". Čuo
## sam mnogo njegovih izjava, zato što se trudim da ih lično čujem, a
## ne da mi ih prepričaju "glupan i tupan". Gledati i čitati o F1 u
Ja sam čitao Schu-ove izjave tipa "Ja sam najbolji". Verovatno si
upoznat sa časopisom "Formel 1", koji izdaju Nemci. E, pa u tom
časopisu, Schumacher je davao toliko izjava i intervjua i hvalio
sebe da je to neverovatno. Takve izjave su bile naročito izražene
pre dve sezone, kada se ponašao kako se ponašao, varao i provocirao
sve živo. Kada su ga šutnuli sa nekoliko trka zbog ponašanja, u
časopisu je davao intervjue kako ga nije briga što mu ne daju da
se trka, da je on "još uvek najbolji vozač, i da niko nema šanse
protiv njega".
## Kao prošle godine u Silverstonu, ili Monci ;). Hil je prošle godine
## dva puta napravio sra*e, ali ja mu to ne uzimam za zlo, on je ipak
## test vozač ;>
Pričaš nama, Hill-fanovima, da ne treba da se zovemo Hill-fanovi,
već "oni_koji_mrze_Schu_a", a pročitaj malo šta ti pišeš o Hill-u,
meni liči da ti više mrziš Hill-a nego što ja mrzim Schu-a (a ne
mrzim ga ;)...
auto-moto.438mila,
> Super! Hil pravi slučajne greške a Šumaher namerne i samo zbog toga
> bi ga trebalo izbaciti iz Formule. Da se opameti.
Potpisujem! B) Krole
auto-moto.439bolero,
VIDIMO SE U BUDIMPESTI
Ja odoh
javicu vam kako je
auto-moto.440obren,
Formula 1: Hungarian Grand Prix
Hill fastest on first day
Damon Hill finished the afternoon free session just in front of Michael
Schumacher. A thrilling last 10 minutes saw many changes in the driver
positions on a circuit which was improving all the time.
Track Times:
1st Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 D.Hill Williams 1m 21.144s 3 1m 24.088s
2 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 21.166s 0 0m 0.000s
3 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 21.369s 9 1m 26.019s
4 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 22.332s 1 1m 23.790s
5 G.Berger Benetton 1m 22.617s 0 0m 0.000s
6 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 22.790s 0 0m 0.000s
7 O.Panis Ligier 1m 22.889s 11 1m 27.217s
8 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 23.076s 2 1m 23.989s
9 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 23.360s 6 1m 24.546s
10 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 23.400s 4 1m 24.298s
11 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 23.494s 7 1m 25.184s
12 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 23.667s 0 0m 0.000s
13 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 23.702s 0 0m 0.000s
14 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 23.722s 5 1m 24.370s
15 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 24.941s 0 0m 0.000s
16 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 25.056s 10 1m 26.079s
17 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 25.722s 12 1m 28.075s
18 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 25.764s 8 1m 25.764s
19 G.Lavaggi Minardi 1m 26.253s 0 0m 0.000s
20 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 26.380s 0 0m 0.000s
---- 107% ---- 1m 26.824s
auto-moto.441vstan,
18.18h - kamo su rezultati ?
auto-moto.442mila,
Kamo su formulaši? Tomislave, apropo naše ranije prepiske,
ne čini li ti se da je i Šumaher imao popriličnih problema da
pretekne Bergera, koga je, uzgred budi rečeno, brzometno sustigao?
Berger, opet, nesrećnik crče. Baš mi žao :(. Krole B)
auto-moto.443djcorto,
> ne cini li ti se da je i Sumaher imao poprilicnih problema da
> pretekne Bergera, koga je, uzgred budi receno, brzometno
> sustigao?
Jeste, jeste. Ocigledno je trku dobila taktika - i hrabra voznja
Vilneva.
Hil je ipak pokazao da nesto ume onim skidanjem 1.5 sec po
krugu, kad je jurio Sumahera, ato je pocelo sjajnim preticanjem
Alesija. Ipak, da Vilnev nije pobedio, to NE bi bilo u redu.
> Berger, opet, nesrecnik crce. Bas mi zao :(. Krole
> B)
I meni :( Konacno su uhvatili ruku, Benetton ide kako treba, i
dva puta uzastopce BUM! Cudno, Alesiju se to NE desava - pa nije
valjda Berger agresivniji ?!!?
Steta je i za Sumahera, mada, izgleda da je odavno imao
problema, jer je, za njega, presporo vozio. Williams jeste
bolji, ali bas 24 sec (otprilike) ??????
auto-moto.444obren,
> 18.18h - kamo su rezultati ?
Pa valjda su svi gledali komšijski GP? ;) Nekoliko poznanika mi je otišlo
na lice mesta, pa ću ih zamoliti da "prekucaju" utiske sa trke i oko nje.
A evo i liste iz glave, a neko nek pošalje Race Overview od Gale Force-a...
1. Villeneuve
2. Hill
3. Alesi
4. Hakkinen
5. Panis
6. Barrichello
...
Staza u mađarskoj ima dosta krivina a bilo je i dosta prašine i ostataka od
pocepanih guma tako da je imperativ bilo imati što bolji "down force".
Drugi timovi su pribegavali svakakvim rešenjima dok Vilijams izgleda nije
imao nekih većih problema sa prijanjanjem ;)
Na početku mi je izgledalo da će Hill dva puta u boks a Vilnev 3, ali
ispalo je da su obojica išli po 3 puta, što je bila i taktika većine
učesnika u trci.
Oba Ferarija su odustala, što zbog motora (Irvajn) što zbog drugih kvarova.
Na kraju je trku završilo svega desetak vozača, a ekipa Forti je preskočila
još jedan GP i po svemu sudeći biće ugašena ako u skoroj budućnosti ne nađe
dovoljno sponzora... :(
Šta još reći, Vilijams je već šampion, dok je za titulu među vozačima sada
tek nastala mrtva trka između timskih kolega Vilneva i Hila. Ako je istina
da Hill menja lokal ;) a stanje u vrhu je neizvesno, svašta se može
očekivati od ekipe kao što je Vilijams...
auto-moto.445mila,
Upravo je završena pretposlednja trka indi-kar šampionata, pobedom
Zanardija. Drugo mesto je osvojio, i time, najverovatnije, obezbedio
ovogodišnju titulu, Džimi Vaser. Njegov direktni konkurent u borbi za
titulu, Al Anser junior, imao je peh da se u zadnjem krugu sudari, nisam
dobro video s kim, i time svoje šanse za naslov prvaka sveo na teoretske.
Naime, ako se u Laguna-seki, koja se vozi sledeća, dogodi da Vaser odustane,
a Anser junior pobedi, titula šampiona će pripasti ovom drugom. Ova trka je,
na sreću, protekla bez incidenata sa težim posledicama.
auto-moto.446kcurcic,
> A evo i liste iz glave, a neko nek pošalje Race Overview od Gale
Izvinjavam se na dužini poruke, ali su tu rezultati warm up-a
i trke i stanje na tabelama O:)
Formula 1: Hungarian Grand Prix
(ALL INFORMATION IS UNOFFICIAL)
========================================================================
WARM UP
Schumacher the Warmest
----------------------
Michael Schumacher continues to stamp his dominance on this event by being
the fastest car in the morning warm-up session. Hill was second fastest
with Villeneuve third.
Story of the top time:
8m 1m 20.848s Schumacher
12m 1m 20.712s Hill
14m 1m 18.971s Schumacher
Verstappen took a trip through the gravel then drove back to the
pits 23 minutes into the session, two minutes later Diniz retired off the
track with a mechanical problem.
Track Times:
Qualify 3rd Free
Pos Driver Team Lap Time Pos Lap Time Pos Lap Time
1 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 18.971s 1 1m 17.129s 1 1m 17.947s
2 D.Hill Williams 1m 19.595s 2 1m 17.182s 3 1m 17.987s
3 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 19.818s 3 1m 17.259s 2 1m 17.980s
4 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 20.240s 4 1m 18.617s 5 1m 18.986s
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 20.778s 7 1m 19.116s 6 1m 19.341s
6 G.Berger Benetton 1m 20.923s 6 1m 18.794s 9 1m 19.471s
7 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 21.009s 10 1m 19.436s 13 1m 20.312s
8 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 21.232s 8 1m 19.292s 4 1m 18.954s
9 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 21.266s 13 1m 19.966s 12 1m 19.946s
10 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 21.342s 5 1m 18.754s 8 1m 19.421s
11 O.Panis Ligier 1m 21.432s 11 1m 19.538s 11 1m 19.883s
12 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 21.524s 17 1m 20.781s 17 1m 21.223s
13 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 21.717s 9 1m 19.384s 7 1m 19.420s
14 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 21.914s 12 1m 19.828s 10 1m 19.760s
15 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 21.994s 15 1m 20.665s 15 1m 20.740s
16 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 22.358s 14 1m 20.499s 14 1m 20.434s
17 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 22.604s 16 1m 20.678s 16 1m 20.823s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 23.202s 19 1m 21.713s 18 1m 22.217s
19 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 23.226s 18 1m 21.590s 19 1m 22.758s
20 G.Lavaggi Minardi 1m 24.638s 20 1m 22.468s 20 1m 23.221s
=====================================================================
Hungarian Grand Prix 96: The Race
Weather: Hot, sunny
Lap Event
0 Grid Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) D.Hill
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) E.Irvine
(5) J.Alesi (6) G.Berger
1 Diniz and Salo touch and retire
1 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Hill
(5) E.Irvine (6) G.Berger
4 Fastest lap: Villeneuve 1m 21.081s
5 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Hill
(5) E.Irvine (6) G.Berger
6 Brundle drives wide and bounces through the gravel
destroying the car
6 Hill stuck behind Alesi whilst a big gap opens up to
Schumacher and Villeneuve at the front
7 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1.020s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->7.550s->(3) J.Alesi->0.670s->(4) D.Hill
->4.120s->(5) E.Irvine->1.440s->(6) G.Berger
11 Verstappen off the track and retires
12 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->0.790s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->13.610s->(3) J.Alesi->0.730s->(4) D.Hill
->3.190s->(5) E.Irvine->2.540s->(6) G.Berger
14 Pits: Frentzen - 6.5s
15 7-Hakkinen, 8-Herbert, 9-Coulthard, 10-Barrichello
16 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->0.420s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->17.660s->(3) J.Alesi->0.380s->(4) D.Hill
->5.010s->(5) G.Berger (6) E.Irvine
17 Pits: Herbert - 6.6s
19 Pits: Schumacher - 7.9s
20 Fastest lap: Villeneuve - 1m 21.071s
20 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->20.680s->(2) J.Alesi
->0.580s->(3) D.Hill->2.300s->(4) G.Berger
->0.330s->(5) M.Schumacher->4.110s->(6) E.Irvine
21 Pits: Villeneuve - 7.8s
23 Pits: Alesi - 7.1s
23 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 20.929s
23 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Schumacher (6) E.Irvine
24 Couthard out with gearbox problem
24 Pits: Berger - 9.2s
25 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Schumacher (6) E.Irvine
25 Pits: Hill - 6.8s
26 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
(3) J.Alesi (4) D.Hill
(5) G.Berger (6) E.Irvine
32 Irvine retires with smoking car
32 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 20.735s
34 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->10.000s->(2) M.Schumacher
->21.000s->(3) D.Hill (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger
34 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 20.581s
35 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 20.473s
35 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
->15.000s->(3) D.Hill (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger
36 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 20.263s
36 Herbert retires
37 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->15.300s->(2) M.Schumacher
(3) D.Hill (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
38 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->16.800s->(2) M.Schumacher
->12.300s->(3) D.Hill (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
39 Pits: Schumacher - 6.9s
39 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
40 Pits: Villeneuve - 7.0s
40 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
41 Pits: Hill - 6.7s
42 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->14.330s->(2) M.Schumacher
->11.690s->(3) D.Hill->2.020s->(4) J.Alesi
->6.820s->(5) G.Berger->12.460s->(6) M.Hakkinen
43 7-Barrichello, 8-Panis, 9-Frentzen, 10-Katayama, 11-Rosset,
12-Lavaggi
45 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->16.420s->(2) M.Schumacher
->9.490s->(3) D.Hill->7.480s->(4) J.Alesi
->4.600s->(5) G.Berger->13.830s->(6) M.Hakkinen
46 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
->5.330s->(3) D.Hill (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
46 Pits: Alesi - 8.7s
47 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
->3.800s->(3) D.Hill (4) G.Berger
(5) J.Alesi (6) M.Hakkinen
48 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
->3.620s->(3) D.Hill (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) J.Alesi
49 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
->2.420s->(3) D.Hill (4) G.Berger
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) J.Alesi
49 Pits: Berger - 8.7s
50 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->22.000s->(2) M.Schumacher
->1.900s->(3) D.Hill (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) J.Alesi (6) G.Berger
51 Frentzen retires in pits
52 Pits: Hakkinen - 8.7s
53 Pits: Schumacher - 9.7s
53 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->26.800s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) J.Alesi (6) G.Berger
55 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->26.000s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
57 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->23.000s->(2) D.Hill
->32.000s->(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
58 Pits: Villeneue - 14.8 (problem with rear wheel)
59 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill (2) J.Villeneuve
->22.000s->(3) M.Schumacher (4) G.Berger
(5) J.Alesi (6) M.Hakkinen
60 Current Positions: (1) D.Hill->15.560s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Schumacher (4) G.Berger
(5) J.Alesi (6) M.Hakkinen
63 Pits: Hill - 6.6s
64 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->6.570s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) G.Berger
(5) J.Alesi (6) M.Hakkinen
65 Berger engine blows
65 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->4.880s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen
66 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->4.900s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
67 Fastest lap: Hill 1m 20.93s
67 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->4.500s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
68 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->2.800s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
69 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.820s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
69 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.820s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
70 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.260s->(2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) O.Panis
70 7-Barrichello, 8-Katayama, 9-Rosset, 10-Lavaggi
70 Schumacher retires
73 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) D.Hill
->1m 8.000s->(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) O.Panis (6) R.Barrichello
74 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.050s->(2) D.Hill
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) O.Panis (6) R.Barrichello
75 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->0.780s->(2) D.Hill
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) O.Panis (6) R.Barrichello
77 Villeneuve Wins
Villeneuve wins the day
-----------------------
Jacques Villeneuve took his third win of the season during a thrilling
Hungarian Grand Prix. Multiple pits stops, being stuck behind slower cars
and mechanical problems all made for an interesting race whose lead changed
nearly 10 times. Villeneuve even after losing 10 seconds with a wheel
problems in the pits managed to stay ahead of his team mate Damon Hill
who finished second.
Hill looked like the faster driver but seemed to spend most of his race
sitting behind the slower car of Jean Alesi whilst Schumacher diced with
Villeneuve at the front. Michaels race ended 7 laps from the end with
mechanical failure, his Ferrarri lasting much longer than team mate Eddie
Irvines who retired before half of the race was completed.
Jean Alesi took a surprising third place after first Berger and then
Schumacher retired in front of him.
This one two for the Williams team confirms their victory in the 1996
Constructors Championship with their two drivers now racing for the
Drivers Championship.
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 J.Villeneuve Williams 1hr 46m 21.134s (77 Laps)
2 D.Hill Williams Gap 0m 0.771s
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 20.093s)
3 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 1m 24.212s
4 M.Hakkinen McLaren Laps behind: 1
5 O.Panis Ligier Laps behind: 1
6 R.Barrichello Jordan Laps behind: 2
7 U.Katayama Tyrrell Laps behind: 3
8 R.Rosset Footwork Laps behind: 3
9 M.Schumacher Ferrari Laps behind: 7
(Pole Position)
10 G.Lavaggi Minardi Laps behind: 8
Retirements:
G.Berger Benetton On Lap: 65 Reason:
H.Frentzen Sauber On Lap: 51 Reason:
J.Herbert Sauber On Lap: 36 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari On Lap: 32 Reason:
P.Lamy Minardi On Lap: 25 Reason:
D.Coulthard McLaren On Lap: 24 Reason:
J.Verstappen Footwork On Lap: 11 Reason:
M.Brundle Jordan On Lap: 6 Reason:
P.Diniz Ligier On Lap: 2 Reason:
M.Salo Tyrrell On Lap: 1 Reason:
========================================================================
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
1 D.Hill 79
2 J.Villeneuve 62
3 J.Alesi 35
4 M.Schumacher 29
5 M.Hakkinen 19
6 D.Coulthard 18
7 G.Berger 16
8 O.Panis 13
9 R.Barrichello 12
10 E.Irvine 9
11 H.Frentzen 6
12 M.Salo 5
13 J.Herbert 4
14 M.Brundle 3
15 J.Verstappen 1
P.Diniz 1
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
1 Williams 141
2 Benetton 51
3 Ferrari 38
4 McLaren 37
5 Jordan 15
6 Ligier 14
7 Sauber 10
8 Tyrrell 5
9 Footwork 1
-All information is unofficial-
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auto-moto.447bolero,
Upravo se vratih iz BUDIMPESTE
pa ako vas inreresuju neke slicice bolida ili
porshea ili onih starih za paradu
vozaca samo recite, posto sam iskucao
3 filma. Tako da ima svasta
treba samo da razvijem slike i da ih skeniram
kako da skeniram to vi odlucite.
auto-moto.448obren,
> Upravo se vratih iz BUDIMPESTE pa ako vas inreresuju neke slicice
> bolida ili porshea ili onih starih za paradu vozaca samo recite,
Bolje napiši romansiranu reportažu iz Hungaroringa ;)
Nisam uspeo da ubedim drugara koji je bio na trci da sedne za tastaturu
(kaže glupo mu ;) ali preneću par stvari koje su mene dojmile iz njegove
priče:
Elem, kaže da je bilo ponajviše Švaba, zatim Čeha, Finaca, Hrvata,
Jugovića... Svi su se uglavnom lepo slagali, a najviše ga je kao
navijača Šumahera iznenadilo kada je Nemac (!) koji je sedeo do njega
navijao za Hila! :) Kaže da su čak i Švabe Šumaherovci masovno
ustajali i aplaudirali svaki put kada bi Dejmon prošao. Izgleda da
ga strašno cene.
Ispričao mi je i štos za ulaz na Zlatnu tribinu: kupiš kartu za Bronzanu
(40 DM) i na ulazu za Zlatnu staviš ispod karte 1000 forinti (11 DM), pa
te čovek pusti da uđeš. Onda treba da tutneš još jednom momku 1000
forinti da bi ti pokazao gde su nenumerisana mesta i za cirka 60-ak DM
gledaš trku sa Zlatne tribine! :)
Kaže da je nakon odustajanja Šumahera zavladala grobna tišina i da su
mnogi razočarani spustili zastave i počeli da napuštaju tribine...
E da, dobio sam Ferarijev kačket (nije našao Hondin ;) naravno bez
Šumijevog potpisa, ali je zato TomislavR dobio onaj sa autogramom... :)
auto-moto.449tomislavr,
> Kamo su formulaši? Tomislave, apropo naše ranije prepiske,
> ne čini li ti se da je i Šumaher imao popriličnih problema da
> pretekne Bergera, koga je, uzgred budi rečeno, brzometno sustigao?
Sustigao ga je čim je izašao iz boksa, probao je i levo, desno i
odozdo ;), ali nije mogao jednostavno jer je staza "teška za
prestizanje" a i on je očigledno imao nekih problema još posle
tog izlaska. Ako se sećaš on je u tim trenutcima imao oko dve
sekunde lošije vreme od Vilijamsovaca, što, priznaćeš, nije
pravi odnos snaga, pa je sve ukazivalo na neke teškoće koje su
kulminirale u 70. krugu.
A što se tiče Hila, (kako da napišem poruku a da njega ne
napadnem ;), on nije imao nekih problema a dosta dugo bio iza
Alezija, bio je vidno brži a obišao ga je tek posle Alezijeve
greške. Zbog toga je i izgubio trku, mada se može reći da je to
u tom trenutku možda bilo i pametnije jer je za njega sad
važnije da uzme sigurne poene.
Znači, test vozač još nije naučio da prestiže ;)
auto-moto.450bolero,
Pa sad i nije bilo svabova da navijaju za Hill-a
a sto se tice potplacivanja to je ok.
ja sam potplatio za srebrnu 2 tribinu i to me je kostalo
cirka 300 forinti ili nekih 3.? markica sto je dzabe
inace srebrne tribine su mnogo bolje od zlatnih
zato sto na srebrnim tribinama vidis dosta vise
dok na zlatnoj vidis samo pravac gde oni prozuje tako
da maltene nemozes da ga vidis a kamoli da ga slikas
u principu ako budes isao videces jer prva dva dana
sa bronzanom kartom mozes da ides na bilo koju tribinu
sto je super jer odmah nanisanis gde ces da se montiras
ako ne bude bilo nekog.
sto se tice navijaca uglavno su sve svabovi i to nekih 80-90 %
i niko nije navijao za Hilla-a po neki se zajebe pa navija za
baricela ili frencena ali su vrlo retki takvi ljudi tj navijaci,
sto se tice dozivljaja to je neverovatno jer onaj osecaj brzine
i zvuka motora je strava a nije ni priblizno ako se gleda preko
TV-a tako ako biude bilo i sledece godine nece biti sanse da ne
odem. A tek Marlboro girls o tome necu ni da ti pricam kako izgledaju.
U ostalom moj savet ti je, skupljaj lovi i furaj sledece godine
naravno ako bude.
Madjari pricaju da je kod njih skoro izbio i jedan
skandal, a to je da je Niki Lauda napravio jos jednu
stazu i to u tajnosti, kazu da se nalazi negde blizu granice sa
Austrijom pa postoji cak i mogucnost da ce se sledece godine
formula voziti na toj stazi.
auto-moto.451vstan,
Ajde da čujemo stručnjake - šta prognozirate za kraj ?
auto-moto.453djcorto,
> U ostalom moj savet ti je, skupljaj lovi i furaj sledece godine
> naravno ako bude.
Nece biti, vozi se na novoj stazi u Austriji.
auto-moto.454djcorto,
> Ajde da cujemo strucnjake - sta prognozirate za kraj ?
Mislis sampionata F1 ?
Vilnev svakako ima vise muda od Hila, no, ako iz tima podrze
Hila, onda je on prvak. Malo bi previse bilo da Hil sada pukne.
Velika je prednost.
Od ferarija ce nesto biti dogodine, izgleda mi, a to sto Alezi i
Berger redovno cuce u vrhu samo nagovestava da ce kraj da bude
jako zanimljiv.
auto-moto.455kcurcic,
F1: Hungarian GP winners' press conference
Q Well Jacques, you must be very happy so have won the race
here?
JV I'm very happy because first of all for the championship,
we had had to beat Damon while he was still on the race
track so it's a good feeling to do that and this is not
the type of track that I normally enjoy, so to be
competitive here makes me happy. The team did a great job
all weekend and we were right away on the pace.
Q You made a very good start and you seemed to be right
behind Michael Schumacher at the beginning of the race.
If he hadn't faded do you think you could have taken him
without a problem?
JV I think so, we were quicker than him. I don't know what
happened with him, we were quicker than him except for
the first few laps and we just stuck close to him and we
could fight but we had the pit stops. We had a better pit
stop because I think he was caught in traffic.
Q You got into the lead and then on the third pit stop you
seemed to have a bit of a problem. Were you worried at
that stage?
JV Yeah because we lost a good ten seconds in the pits.
Something happened with the wheel and on the last few
laps I had gone quite a bit slower, I came in the pits
very slow not to make a mistake because we had a huge
lead, but to give away ten seconds like that is not an
easy thing.
Q Damon caught up with you towards the end of the race. Did
you at any stage think that he might make a challenge for
the lead of the race?
JV Well when he started to get closer I wasn't pushing that
much. Once he got closer I started pushing again. He was
alittle bit quicker but it's very difficult to overtake
on this track so if there wasn't going to be traffic or
if I wasn't going to make a mistake then I was going to
okay and I was concentrating hard not to make mistakes.
Q Williams have now basically won the constructors
championship with a total of eight victories now
equalling that of Ferrari. Does that change your attitude
towards the end of the season?
JV Well there's a little bit to think about that one, yet we
had a big lead in the constructors championship so we
knew we were not going to be very careful in that we were
going to fight it out hard with Damon.
Q Damon, you drove a hard race and by the look of your
speed you could have done a lot better if you hadn't had
aproblem at the start what happened there?
DH Well again I got a poor start and paid the price. I got
held up by Jean who was doing exactly what I would expect
him to do, which was to hold his line but he was going a
lot slower so I lost of track time. For me, I enjoyed the
race. I had lots to do. There was a lot of communication
between myself and the pit wall trying to work out the
best strategy. It was very interesting trying to deal
with Michael and of course I closed in on Jacques right
towards the end and I think I had a great race. I'm
delighted for the team to have sewn up the constructors'
championship and also finish with another one-two.
Q At any stage would you have challenged Jacques for the
lead or were you under team orders, or what was the
position there, when you caught up with him at the end?
DH No, no. I was aiming to put Jacques under pressure and
chase him to the finish.
Q The only people who can win the world championship for
the drivers now is either you or Jacques. What's your
feeling towards the last few races?
DH Well I think it's going to be great for the viewers. It's
going to be pretty tough for the two of us but I'm
looking forward to it. It's going to be a thrilling last
four races.
Q Jean you said this morning, after the warm up, that the
handling of the car was difficult so you must be very
pleased to be third here today?
JA Yes of course, especially because I did a good start. I
was straight away third so because of the characteristic
of the track you are not able to overtake. I keep this
position to the first stop and then I was fourth and
because Michael retired I went on this podium, so
actually I'm very happy. I'm very pleased for the team
because they work very hard all the weekend. Since the
first day the car was really difficult to drive and at
the end we are again on the podium, so if we can keep
this second place for the championship for the team
constructor it would be very good.
Q What happened when Damon overtook you just after your
first stop?
JA Nothing. He was quicker than me, I think he did another
lap when I stop and he got bit of a wheel just in front
of me so that's why he overtook me.
Q Towards the end of the race you seemed to slow down a
bit. Did you know about Gerhard Berger's problem?
JA No, I don't think he had a problem. He just explode the
engine like it happened in Germany for him.
Q Well Jacques we now go to Spa which has created some
interesting races in the past. What is your attitude to
Spa and the next race?
JV Well it's a very difficult track to learn, I don't know
if it will be a difficult new experience, but it's got a
lot of high speed corners and from what I hear it's a
great track, so I'm looking forward to that one.
Q Gentlemen, thank you.
--
David Goodwin
auto-moto.456kcurcic,
Formula 1 FAQ
f1faq.zipauto-moto.457obren,
Pošto je tema AUTO-MOTO, red je da se malo osvrnemo i na motocikle... :)
Da li je još neko gledao prošlu trku u kategoriji 500 ccm koja je održana
u Brnu u Češkoj? Trka je imala sve ono što danas nedostaje Formuli 1:
relativno izjednačene timove, dosta prestizanja na svim pozicijama i
fantastičnu završnicu.
Polpoziciju je imao Australijanac Majkl - Mik Duan, dvostruki svetski
šampion u kraljevskoj klasi, dok je njegov timski kolega iz tima
Repsol-Honda, Aleks Krivilje, startovao sa sedme pozicije. Duan je loše
krenuo, ali negde na trećini trke, izbija na prvo mesto. Međutim Španac
(Krivilje) hitro grabi poziciju po poziciju i ubrzo ga sustiže. Sledi
efektno prestizanje i Duan pada na drugo mesto ali ne dozvoljava
Kriviljeu da odmakne više od pola sekunde.
U par navrata Duan se toliko približio da je postalo jasno da će ubrzo
uslediti ponovna smena na čelu što se i događa 7-8 krugova pred kraj.
Međutim pravo uzbuđenje tek počinje! Aleks Krivilje počinje ludački da
napada nastojeći da povrati izgubljenu prvu poziciju. U poslednjem krugu
uspeva da obiđe Duana, ali ovaj već u sledećoj krivini uzvraća i ponovo
se vraća na prvo mesto!
U zadnjoj krivini pred ciljem, Krivilje koristi malu grešku Duana i
izleće na pravac sa njegove spolašnje strane. Oba vozača voze se bok
uz bok, gotovo dodirujući se i forsirajući svoje mašine do maksimuma.
Kroz cilj ulaze bukvlano u isto vreme i čak ni na usporenom snimku ne
vidi se ko je ušao prvi! Pobednika je odlučio foto-finiš a bio je to
Aleks Krivilje sa prednošću od 2 hiljadita dela sekunde!
Šta da kažem, žao mi je što nisam snimio ovu trku - neponovljiva je! :)
auto-moto.458vstan,
> vidi se ko je ušao prvi! Pobednika je odlučio foto-finiš a bio
> je to Aleks Krivilje sa prednošću od 2 hiljadita dela sekunde!
>
> Šta da kažem, žao mi je što nisam snimio ovu trku - neponovljiva je! :)
Gledali !!!
Fala za konačan rezultat :)
auto-moto.459budim,
Kada se održava ovaj Yu rally koji se do skoro vozio na Tari i Zlatiboru?
poz,
budimir
auto-moto.460kcurcic,
F1: Promene za sezonu 1997.
FIA i osam od jedanaest F1 timova su potpisali revidirani
'Concorde' sporazum, koji bi trebalo da posluži kao osnova za pravila
F1 takmičenja od 1997. do 2001. U sporazumu se, između ostalog, navode
sledeće klauzule:
* svi timovi potpisnici će ostati u takmičenju Formule 1 do 2001.
* timovi garantuju najmanje 20 bolida na startu svake sezone. Po
pretpostavkama, to znači da može postojati i treći automobil u timu,
u slučaju da broj timova padne ispod 10.
* timovi su se složili da ne menjaju imena tokom trajanja sporazuma.
Tim Toma Volkinšoa je potpisan kao "Arrows" a ne kao Footwork ili TWR
* timovi se slažu da se neće takmičiti ni u jednom "open-wheel" šampionatu
bez dozvole FIA. Ovo je, najverovatnije, klauzula koja bi trebalo da
spreči timove da se takmiče i u Indycar seriji.
* odluke o promenama tehničkih/sportskih pravila će zahtevati 80% većine,
za razliku od dosadašnje prakse (jednoglasno)
* broj trka po sezoni je ograničen na 17 (do sada 16). Mađarska? (prim. prev.)
* trening petkom se ukida u potpunosti. Subotnji treninzi se produžuju za
sat, a broj krugova koji se mogu provesti tokom tih treninga je sada
neograničen. Kvalifikacije se voze kao i dosad (subota popodne, broj
krugova ograničen). Korišćenje rezervnih automobila je dozvoljeno i na
kvalifikacijama i na treningu.
* dve vrste guma su dozvoljene tokom treninga. Po završetku treninga, tim
mora da izabere jednu vrstu i da je koristi tokom vikenda. Može biti
upotrebljeno najviše 7 setova izabranih guma po bolidu
* zabranjena su testiranja u nedelji pre trke (bilo gde), kao i od kraja
sezone do 1. decembra iste godine
* pet prvoplasiranih timova plus najiskusniji ulaze u sastav Formula One
Commission
* dosadašnji princip novčanog nagrađivanja je napušten. Sada se kompletna
sredstva (od TV prenosa i trke) dele na dva dela. Jedan ide takmičarima,
a drugi timovima. Obe sume se dele 50% na osnovu rezultata u prethodnoj
sezoni a 50% na osnovu "istorije" (šta god mu to značilo)
Ovaj sporazum su potpisali Arrows, Benneton, Ferrari, Forti Corse,
Jordan, Ligier, Minardi i Sauber. McLaren i Tyrell ga nisu potpisali,
a Williams je povukao svoj potpis. Oni mogu pristupiti sporazumu, uz
odobrenje timova potpisnika. Nisam samo siguran šta bi bilo kad ga ne
bi potpisali.
auto-moto.461obren,
Rezultati današnjih kvalifikacija u Spa:
1. Villeneuve
2. Hill
3. Schumacher
4. Coulthard
5. Berger
6. Hakkinen
auto-moto.462obren,
Velika nagrada Belgije (Spa Frankochamps),
poredak na kraju trke:
1. Schumacher
2. Villeneuve
3. Hakkinen
4. Alesi
5. Hill
6. Berger
Šta ima dalje da se priča, mora da ste svi gledali.. :) Uostalom, tu je
Gale Force za detalje, a siguran sam da će i Tomislavr napisati jednu
nadahnutu reportažu. ;)
auto-moto.463tomislavr,
> Gale Force za detalje, a siguran sam da će i Tomislavr napisati
> jednu nadahnutu reportažu. ;)
A kakvu drugo nego nadahnutu! :) Na stranu pobeda Sumahera, vrlo
me je iznenadila dobra voznja Vilneva, a jos vise losa voznja
Hila u trenutku kad mu titula visi o koncu. Izgleda da se na
kraju sezone polako "kristalisu" vodece figure za sledecu: Vilnev
i Sumaher. Mislim da je to duel koji ce obeleziti sledecu
sezonu.
Takodje ova trka je mozda najbolje pokazala otprilike koji ce
timovi voditi glavnu rec u eri posle Vilijams-Renoa - Ferari i
Meklaren koji je u lepoj "renesansi" sa Mercedesom. Nista lepse
za videti za jednog navijaca Mercedesa - Pejs-kar C klasa, pa
onda prva dva mesta Mercedesi ;)
Uzgred, koji je ono vozac omasio boks? ;>
auto-moto.464obren,
Formula 1: Belgian Grand Prix
(ALL INFORMATION IS UNOFFICIAL)
Belgium Grand Prix 96: The Result
Weather: Dry and sunny
Lap Event
0 Grid Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) D.Hill
(3) M.Schumacher (4) D.Coulthard
(5) G.Berger (6) M.Hakkinen
0 Crash on first corner - Panis, Herbert,
Barrichello and Frentzen
1 Pits: Barrichello
1 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->0.883s->(2) M.Schumacher
->1.039s->(3) D.Coulthard->0.632s->(4) D.Hill
->0.926s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.630s->(6) G.Berger
2 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.509s->(2) M.Schumacher
->0.923s->(3) D.Coulthard->1.230s->(4) D.Hill
->1.270s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.655s->(6) G.Berger
2 Fastest lap: 1m 55.976s - Villeneuve
3 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.188s->(2) M.Schumacher
->1.835s->(3) D.Coulthard->1.170s->(4) D.Hill
->1.625s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.634s->(6) G.Berger
3 Fastest lap: 1m 55.151s - Schumacher
5 Fastest lap: 1m 54.821s - Villeneuve
5 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.439s->(2) M.Schumacher
->2.905s->(3) D.Coulthard->1.881s->(4) D.Hill
->1.417s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.426s->(6) G.Berger
6 Fastest lap: 1m 54.691s - Schumacher
6 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.290s->(2) M.Schumacher
->4.740s->(3) D.Coulthard->0.976s->(4) D.Hill
->1.398s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.506s->(6) G.Berger
7 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->0.457s->(2) M.Schumacher
->4.874s->(3) D.Coulthard->1.326s->(4) D.Hill
->1.329s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.547s->(6) G.Berger
8 Fastest lap: 1m 54.410s - Villeneuve
8 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.069s->(2) M.Schumacher
->5.088s->(3) D.Coulthard->1.592s->(4) D.Hill
->1.218s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.746s->(6) G.Berger
9 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.113s->(2) M.Schumacher
->5.387s->(3) D.Coulthard->2.614s->(4) D.Hill
->0.941s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.614s->(6) G.Berger
10 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
(3) D.Coulthard (4) D.Hill
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) G.Berger
(7) J.Alesi (8) M.Brundle
(9) E.Irvine (10) M.Salo
(11) J.Verstappen (12) U.Katayama
(13) P.Diniz (14) R.Rosset
(15) P.Lamy
11 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve->1.182s->(2) M.Schumacher
->5.963s->(3) D.Coulthard->2.475s->(4) D.Hill
->1.984s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.570s->(6) G.Berger
11 Verstappen in pits - engine cover being opened
12 Big crash for Verstappen - suspected stuck throttle
13 SAFETY CAR ON TRACK
14 Pits: Schuacher - 8.0s
14 Pits: Alesi
14 Verstappen out of car OK
15 Pits: Villeneuve - 8.5s
15 Pits: Berger
16 Pits: Hill - 9.5s
17 SAFETY CAR back into pits
18 Current Positions: (1) D.Coulthard->1.817s->(2) M.Hakkinen
->0.440s->(3) M.Schumacher->2.227s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->1.041s->(5) J.Alesi->3.264s->(6) M.Salo
20 Current Positions: (1) D.Coulthard->1.744s->(2) M.Hakkinen
->1.186s->(3) M.Schumacher->1.285s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->2.573s->(5) J.Alesi->6.102s->(6) M.Salo
20 Berger spins and drops to last
20 Hill in 9th
21 Current Positions: (1) D.Coulthard->1.567s->(2) M.Hakkinen
->1.965s->(3) M.Schumacher->0.886s->(4) J.Villeneuve
->3.000s->(5) J.Alesi->7.833s->(6) M.Salo
22 Pits: Coulthard - 10.9s
22 Current Positions: (1) M.Hakkinen (2) M.Schumacher
(3) J.Villeneuve (4) J.Alesi
(5) M.Salo (6) E.Irvine
(7) M.Brundle (8) D.Hill
(9) D.Coulthard (10) U.Katayama
(11) P.Lamy (12) R.Rosset
22 Fastest lap: 1m 54.198s - Hakkinen
23 Current Positions: (1) M.Hakkinen->2.233s->(2) M.Schumacher
->3.566s->(3) J.Villeneuve->7.148s->(4) J.Alesi
->17.814s->(5) M.Salo->19.749s->(6) E.Irvine
23 Diniz retires in pits
23 Pits: Hakkinen - 9.0s
24 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Salo
(5) E.Irvine (6) M.Hakkinen
25 Pits: Irvine - 9.8s
25 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1.762s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->4.715s->(3) J.Alesi->13.090s->(4) M.Salo
->3.069s->(5) M.Hakkinen->0.984s->(6) D.Hill
26 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1.448s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->5.112s->(3) J.Alesi->14.790s->(4) M.Salo
->1.661s->(5) M.Hakkinen->1.162s->(6) D.Hill
27 Fastest lap: 1m 54.164s - Schumacher
28 Fastest lap: 1m 53.928s - Villeneuve
28 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Salo
(5) M.Hakkinen (6) D.Hill
29 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) M.Salo (6) D.Hill
29 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) J.Alesi (4) M.Hakkinen
(5) D.Hill (6) M.Salo
30 Irvine retires with mechanical problem
31 Pits: Schumacher - 7.8s
31 Pits: Alesi - 7.5s
31 Current Positions: (1) J.Villeneuve (2) M.Schumacher
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Alesi
(5) D.Hill (6) D.Coulthard
32 Pits: Villeneuve - 7.6s
32 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Alesi
(5) D.Hill (6) D.Coulthard
(7) M.Brundle (8) G.Berger
(9) M.Salo (10) U.Katayama
(11) P.Lamy
33 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->0.939s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->7.129s->(3) M.Hakkinen->2.241s->(4) J.Alesi
->0.664s->(5) D.Hill->10.392s->(6) D.Coulthard
34 Pits: Hill - 6.7s
34 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->0.549s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->7.783s->(3) M.Hakkinen->2.975s->(4) J.Alesi
->11.099s->(5) D.Coulthard
35 Brundle into pits and retires
36 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->0.871s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->8.394s->(3) M.Hakkinen->2.872s->(4) J.Alesi
->11.885s->(5) D.Coulthard->9.346s->(6) D.Hill
36 Fastest lap: 1m 53.354s - Berger (7th)
38 Coulthard spins off into barriers
39 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->0.634s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->10.585s->(3) M.Hakkinen->3.465s->(4) J.Alesi
->17.271s->(5) D.Hill->2.905s->(6) G.Berger
40 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->1.170s->(2) J.Villeneuve
->10.765s->(3) M.Hakkinen->3.779s->(4) J.Alesi
->15.611s->(5) D.Hill->2.863s->(6) G.Berger
40 Villeneuve (2) dropping back from Schumacher (1)
41 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher->2.184s->(2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Alesi
(5) D.Hill (6) G.Berger
41 Fastest lap: 1m 53.263s - Berger
42 Fastest lap: 1m 53.067s - Berger
42 Current Positions: (1) M.Schumacher (2) J.Villeneuve
(3) M.Hakkinen (4) J.Alesi
(5) D.Hill (6) G.Berger
(7) M.Salo (8) U.Katayama
(9) P.Lamy (10) R.Rosset
44 SCHUMACHER WINS
Schmacher is back!!
-------------------
Michael Schumacher took his second victory of the year
at the Belgium Grand Prix followed closely by Jacques Villeneuve
and Mika Hakkinen. Championship Points leader Damon Hill
finished 5th.
Schumacher started second on the grid and he stayed
second until the Safety Car came out and he dived into the pits.
Later he said that the Safety Car timing was lucky as he was going into the
pits anyway. This apparent tatical use of the Safety Car could have given
him the edge which kept him in front of Villeneuve in the latter stages.
Villeneuve (a master of Safety Car tactics from Indy cars) said that a
mis-understanding with the pits on the radio kept him out longer than
he would have liked.
The Safety Car came on track after a high speed crash by Jos Vertsappen left
him in the car in a dangerous position. Verstappen was eventually seen
to walk from the car and taken to hospital in a helicopter.
When the Safety Car returned to the pits it left the McLarens of Coulthard
and Hakkinen in the first two positions followed closely by Schumacher,
Villeneuve, Alesi and Mika Salo in 5th. Pits stops for the two McLarens
then put Schumacher into the lead.
Villeneuve took the lead when Schumacher changed tyres but immediately
lost it when he himself took a pit stop.
After dropping back to 9th during the Safety Car laps Hill fought his way
up to 6th before Coulthard (in 5th) spun off. Gerhard Berger (in 6th)
put in many fine laps near the end but was unable to catch the rather
disappointing performance of Damon Hill.
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Race Time
1 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1hr 28m 15.125s (44 Laps)
2 J.Villeneuve Williams Gap 0m 5.602s
(Pole Position)
3 M.Hakkinen McLaren Gap 0m 15.710s
4 J.Alesi Benetton Gap 0m 19.125s
5 D.Hill Williams Gap 0m 29.179s
6 G.Berger Benetton Gap 0m 28.896s
(Fastest Race Lap: 1m 53.067s)
7 M.Salo Tyrrell Gap 1m 0.754s
8 U.Katayama Tyrrell Gap 1m 40.227s
9 R.Rosset Footwork Laps behind: 1
10 P.Lamy Minardi Laps behind: 1
Retirements:
D.Coulthard McLaren On Lap: 38 Reason:
M.Brundle Jordan On Lap: 35 Reason:
R.Barrichello Jordan On Lap: 30 Reason:
E.Irvine Ferrari On Lap: 30 Reason:
P.Diniz Ligier On Lap: 23 Reason:
J.Verstappen Footwork On Lap: 12 Reason:
H.Frentzen Sauber On Lap: 1 Reason:
J.Herbert Sauber On Lap: 1 Reason:
O.Panis Ligier On Lap: 1 Reason:
Not Qualified:
G.Lavaggi Minardi
========================================================================
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
1 D.Hill 81
2 J.Villeneuve 68
3 M.Schumacher 39
4 J.Alesi 38
5 M.Hakkinen 23
6 D.Coulthard 18
7 G.Berger 17
8 O.Panis 13
9 R.Barrichello 12
10 E.Irvine 9
11 H.Frentzen 6
12 M.Salo 5
13 J.Herbert 4
14 M.Brundle 3
15 J.Verstappen 1
P.Diniz 1
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
1 Williams 149
2 Benetton 55
3 Ferrari 48
4 McLaren 41
5 Jordan 15
6 Ligier 14
7 Sauber 10
8 Tyrrell 5
9 Footwork 1
auto-moto.465obren,
> Na stranu pobeda Šumahera, vrlo me je iznenadila dobra vožnja Vilneva
I to na stazi koju prvi put vozi! Ne znam da li su rekli na 3K, ali Vilnev
je izjavio da za ovako ekspresno upoznavanje staze ima da zahvali veoma
dobroj kompjuterskoj simulaciji kojom se "igrao" do besvesti. :) Za one
koji možda ne znaju, hobi Žaka Vilneva su kompjuteri. Negde sam pročitao
da je lično od Bila Gejtsa dobio na poklon kopiju Windowsa 95.
> Izgleda da se na kraju sezone polako "kristališu" vodeće figure za
> sledeću: Vilnev i Sumaher. Mislim da je to duel koji će obeležiti
> sledeću sezonu.
Vrlo moguće, Žak je sve bolji kako sezona odmiče (što je i normalno ;)
Sada mu dolaze i dve staze koje odlično poznaje - Monca i Suzuka, tako da
se može očekivati vrlo uzbudljiva završnica sezone. :) Iako mrziš Hila,
ne otpisuj ga prerano, svako može ponekad da ima loš bioritam. ;)
> Takođe ova trka je možda najbolje pokazala otprilike koji će timovi
> voditi glavnu reč u eri posle Vilijams-Renoa - Ferari i Meklaren
Ništa se još ne zna, Ferrarijev jedini adut je Šumaher i njegove pobede,
pošto izgleda na Irvajna mnogo ne računaju. Ako Šumahera dogodine ne krene,
mogu da se slikaju. Sa druge strane, Meklarenova prednost je konzistentna
vožnja oba njihova vozača i marljivo prikupljanje poena. Mada, red bi bio
da taj tvoj Mercedes uzme i neku pobedu... ;)
> Uzgred, koji je ono vozač omašio boks? ;>
A i nije ti neka nadahnuta reportaža... ;)
auto-moto.466junior,
> Uzgred, koji je ono vozac omasio boks? ;>
Zar ne bi trebao Hill da bude diskvalifikovan zbog tog?
Mislim da su jednom Senu tako diskvalifikovali zbog 'nedozvoljenog sečenja
krivine' ili tako nešto. Vozio se van staze, što je zabranjeno ...
auto-moto.467obren,
Komanetar F1 Atlas tima:
Velika nagrada Belgije, Spa Francorchamps:
Mihael Šumaher odvezao je iscrpljujuću trku, uspevši da svoj Ferari
dovede do pobede pored nadmoćnih Vilijams-Renoa. Žak Vilnev zavšio je
trku kao drugoplasirani, stavljajući Šumahera na teška iskušenja u
zanjih nekoliko krugova. Ipak on je u poslednjem krugu odustao od
potere i zadovoljio se drugim mestom. Sa duge strane, lider šampionata
Dejmon Hill odvezao je prilično neubedljivu trku. Nakon prilično lošeg
starta našao se na četvrtoj poziciji da bi nakon jedne greške morao
grčevito da se probija sa začelja do pete pozicije na kojoj je i završio
trku. Razlika u poenima između njega i Vilneva sada iznosi prilično
dostižnih 13 poena.
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
Neki detalji sa trke i oko nje:
- Hajnc-Herald Frencen, Džoni Herbert, Rubens Baričelo i Olivije Pani,
sudarili su se u prvom krugu kod 'La Source'. Samo je Barićelo uspeo
da nastavi trku.
- Jos Verštapen doživeo je težak udes, uništivši kompletno svoj bolid
Arrows-Hart. U prethodnom krugu on je išao u boks zbog problema sa
komandom gasa koja se zaglavljivala, što je verovatno i prouzrokovalo
ovu nesreću.
- Verštapen je na nogama napustio mesto udesa i odvezen je Helikopterom
na preventivni pregled.
- Nakon ovog događaja na stazi je od 13. do 17. kruga bilo Sigurnosno
vozilo, što su svi timovi osim Meklarena iskoristili za ulaske u boks.
- Irvajna je opet pratila loša sreća, tako da je zbog kvara menjača po
sedmi uzastopni put morao da odustane.
- Majkl Džonson, svetski rekorder i nosilac Zlatne medlaje sa ovogodišnjih
Olimpijskih igara dodelio je svom imenjaku pobednički pehar i razmenio
svoje patike za trčanje za jednu od njegovih kaciga.
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
Izjave nakon trke:
Žak Vilnev: "Šampionska titula je još uvek nerešena."
"Izgubili smo trku zbog loše komunikacije sa boksom."
Mihael Šumaher: "Ni u ludilu nisam pomišljao da mogu da dobijem ovu
trku. Ne bih uložio ni penija na svoju pobedu."
auto-moto.468obren,
Belgian Grand Prix,
Ferrari press release of 25th August
Spa-Francorchamps, 25th August 1996
Mihael Šumaher je zabeležio svoju drugu pobedu ove sezone, a 21 u svojoj
karijeri, na današnjoj trci za Veliku nagradu Belgije. Ovo je bila 107.
pobeda za ekipu Ferrari, a deseta u Belgiji (poslednji put pobedio je
Mikele Alboreto, 1984. godine u Zolderu). Aktuelni svetski šampion probio
se za jedno mesto na samom startu, na drugo poziciju, odmah iza Vilneva.
On je svoj prvi ulazak u boks načinio u 14. krugu, iskoristivši izlazak
Sigurnosnog vozila, i vratio se zatim na treće mesto.
Šumaher je preuzeo vodeću poziciju u 24. krugu kada su Meklareni ispred
njega napravili svoj prvi pit-stop. Od ovog trenutka pa do samog finiša
trke, on je bio u neprekidnom vođstvu, izuzev dva kruga nakon drugog
ulaska u boks.
"Ono što smo uspeli da uradimo je fantastično," prokomentarisao je
Svetski Šampion. "Čak i ako nismo bili brži od Vilijamsa, bili smo
dovoljno sposobni da pratimo tempo koji su nametnuli, i dobili smo trku
zahvaljujući tome što nismo napravili ni jednu grešku, počevši od setapa
bolida, preko strategije, do odrađivanja pit stopa."
"Moram napomenuti da sam sredinom trke bio jako zabrinut da li će bolid
izdržati jer sam ga mnogo forsirao prateći Hakinena, prelazio preko
ivičnjaka previše često, što se odrazilo na upravljački sistem i načinilo
bolid vrlo čudnim i teškim za vožnju, naročit u 'Eau Rouge' (krivina).
Kontaktirao sam sa timom putem radija i rekli su mi da ako se držim dalje
od ivičnjaka neću imati problema. Tada sam povratio samopouzdanje i kao
što ste videli, sve je ispalo dobro."
"Ova, druga, pobeda sa Ferarijem ima samo jednu zajedničku stvar sa onom
u Barseloni - bila je neočekivana. Tamo sam pobedio sa velikom razlikom,
zahvaljujući vremenskim uslovima koji su mu odgovarali, dok sam ovde
pobedio po suvom, moravši da se borim do kraja. Ovo je zaista važna pobeda
i za mene i za tim, nakon svih problema koje smo imali. Sada idemo u Moncu,
gde se naš bolid uvek pokazivao dobro na svim testovima, ali teško je
predvideti kakve su mogućnosti naših rivala."
Edi Irvajn je odustao 14 krugova pre kraja, kada je bio na trinaesti i
imao dobru šansu da značajno poboljša svoju poziciju jer je bio jedan
od retkih vozača koji je obavio sve planirane pit-stopove. Međutim, opet
ga je izdao menjač, kao i nekoliko puta ranije.
"Još od samog početka trke imao sam problema sa šaltanjem unazad," kaže Edi.
"Sve u svemu, stvari su se ipak dobro odvijale i uspeo sam čak da obiđem
Bergera. Morao sam da obavim svoj drugi pit-stop malo prerano jer u mi
otišle gume. Nakon njihove zamene opet sam ušao u pravi ritam, ali onda je
menjač otkazao."
"Ovo je pobeda postignuta zalaganjem kompletnog Ferarijevog tima", rekao
je sportski direktor Žan Tod. "Mi gubimo zajedno i pobeđujemo zajedno.
Danas smo bili na nivou Vilijamsa i svi smo odlično izvršavali svoje
zadatke, naročito kada smo uspeli da vratimo Mihaela na stazu ispred
Vilneva posle drugog pit-stopa. Bilo je veoma važno da uspemo jer smo
sebi zacrtali za cilj da dobijemo bar dve trke ove sezone. Sada moramo
dati sve od sebe da uzmemo još pobeda. Jedva čekamo da se ponovo vidimo
sa našim fantastičnim navijačima na domaćoj stazi u Monci."
auto-moto.469djanjusevic,
>> I to na stazi koju prvi put vozi! Ne znam da li su rekli na 3K, ali
>> Vilnev je izjavio da za ovako ekspresno upoznavanje staze ima da
>> zahvali veoma dobroj kompjuterskoj simulaciji kojom se "igrao" do
>> besvesti. :) Za one
GP2, s tim sto u igri nije prosao bas kao na kvalifikacijama bio je 18-ti :))
auto-moto.470smut,
Izgleda da je partnerstvo McLarena i Marlbora na izdisaju. Glavni
sponzor ekipe bi od sledeće godine trebalo da bude West, a bolidi bi
bili srebrne boje na zahtev Mercedesa.
auto-moto.471kcurcic,
> Izgleda da je partnerstvo McLarena i Marlbora na izdisaju. Glavni
> sponzor ekipe bi od sledeće godine trebalo da bude West, a bolidi bi
> bili srebrne boje na zahtev Mercedesa.
A za 12 miliona funti bi jedan od vozača trebalo da bude
Dejmon Hil. Barem prema britanskim novinarima.
Prilog: konferencija za štampu pobednika VN Belgije.
presscon.zipauto-moto.472mila,
> Izgleda da je partnerstvo McLarena i Marlbora na izdisaju. Glavni
> sponzor ekipe bi od sledeće godine trebalo da bude West, a bolidi bi
> bili srebrne boje na zahtev Mercedesa.
I na toj srebrnoj biji ispisano "Davidoff", što je sorta cigareta
koju pravi novi sponzor, koji je prezadovoljan ugovorom o sponzorstvu
s McLaren-om. Valjda će da urodi plodom.........
B)
auto-moto.473kcurcic,
> Uzgred, koji je ono vozac omasio boks? ;>
Mislim da se tu ipak radi o nečem drugom - u trenutku
kada je trebalo da ode u boks, u njemu se nalazio Vilnev koji
je zakasnio sa tim jedan krug, tako da su mu u poslednjem času
javili da je ipak bolje da ne ulazi unutra :)
auto-moto.474tomislavr,
> I na toj srebrnoj boji ispisano "Davidoff", što je sorta cigareta
> koju pravi novi sponzor, koji je prezadovoljan ugovorom o
> sponzorstvu s McLaren-om. Valjda će da urodi plodom.........
McLaren je u nedelju objavio da je raskinuo ugovor o sponzorstvu sa
Phillip Morris-om, i zamenio ga sa Nemačkom kompanijom Reemtsma's West.
Ugovor o sponzorstvu McLarena i Marlbora je trajao 23 godine i bio je
to najduži ugovor o sponzorstvu u F1.
U istom saopštenju se navodi da će McLaren sledeće godine biti u
srebrno-sivoj nijansi, verovatno da bi podsećali na Mercedesove
"Srebrne strele" pedesetih godina. Marlboro neće napustiti sponzorstva
u F1, već "prelazi" u Ferrari koji će biti poznat kao Marlboro Ferrari
sledeće godine. Petogodišnji ugovor sa kompanijom Reemtsma "težak" je
oko 194 Miliona dolara!
I priče o eventualnom prelasku Hila u McLaren su sve jače. Iako Bernie
Ecclestone vrši pritisak na Frenka Williamsa da zadrži oba svoja
vozača, izgleda da je njemu srcu bliži Heinz-Harald Frentzen, a
verovatno traži i znatno manje para od Hila. Frenk je izgleda uveren u
superiornost svog bolida, koja bi mu donela titulu sa Frencenom i
Vilnevom. Na pitanje - Koja dva vozača će voziti za McLaren '97 Ron
Denis je izjavio: Dejvid Kultard i najbolji vozač po mišljenju nas i
Mercedesa.
Možemo se samo nadati da neće ista "sreća" pratiti Hila kao Šumahera
pri prelasku u Ferari i da ćemo '97 imati jos jedan jak paket
tim-vozac, a zadnji uspesi McLaren-Mercedesa me u to i uveravaju.
auto-moto.475kcurcic,
Here are some extracts from Eddie Irvine's article for the Star
newspaper which was published in Ireland on Wednesday 28th August
1996. Eddie writes an article on the Wednesday following each GP.
[SNIP]
Ninth was my worst grid position for a long time. The best I
could have hoped for was eighth. But that wouldn't have satisfied
me either by a long shot. I didn't start badly for all that. I
got right up to about sixth. But Martin Brundle punted me and I
was back to ninth.
To be honest he didn't hold me up. I might have gone a little bit
quicker if I'd been ahead of him. But not a lot. I just couldn't
make the pace. To be honest, I was downright embarrassed to be
battling with Tyrell.
[SNIP]
I know a lot of people are wondering why I am so far off
Michael's pace. Well firstly, he's the best in the world. He's
the only real superstar in F1. But then he's doing all the
testing. All of it. Everything is put together for Michael. I am
assured by Jean Todt that it will all change on December 31st.
We knew it would be a difficult season. But not this difficult.
Our car was late. And if your car isn't right when the racing
starts, you're bunched. That is why all the effort is being put
into Michael's car. It paid off. His win in Spa takes some of the
pressure off the team.
At least we know our team for next year. There is uncertainty
about every other team. And next year's car will be ready early
too. So if I get to do some testing we should be an awful lot
better.
Where the other drivers will end up I don't know. I don't believe
that Damon will end up at Jordan. In fact I'm pretty sure he
wants to stay with Williams. McLaren have a new sponsorship deal
and they're going to want a German driver, probably Ralf
Schumacher, possibly Heinz-Harald Frentzen.
I must say I'm glad they're getting rid of the Friday practice.
It was a waste of time and money. In fact I think Bernie
Ecclestone used this year as a transition year, getting rid of
the Friday qualifying session. Two days is all we need. It's all
about Saturday and Sunday and personally, I'm really pleased with
the change.
[SNIP]
Monza should be a pressure race for us. But I think Michael's win
last weekend has relieved it a bit. As far as I'm concerned, I
can't wait for Christmas, December 31st to be more precise. I've
been promised change. I've been promised testing in the new car.
And that's all I want for Christmas.
The full article was published in the Star of Wednesday 28th August
1996.
auto-moto.476kcurcic,
I zvanično: Dejmon Hil neće voziti za ekipu Vilijamsa sledeće sezone -
izjavio je njegov advokat na jutrošnjoj konferenciji za štampu. Kao timovi
u kojima bi mr. Hill mogao da nastavi karijeru spominju se Jordan i Stewart
(nova ekipa koja ulazi u takmičenje sledeće godine), što je u jednom članku
u Sunday Times-u potrvrdio već spomenuti advokat. U istoj toj priči se pominje
i West McLaren i mlađi Šumaher - Ralf (oh, ne, ne još jedan... ;)) kojeg bi
Edi Džordan takođe voleo da vidi u svom timu. Glasine (a od čega se drugog i
živi ;)
kažu da je Meklaren porekao da će se u njihovom timu naći mlađi brat
znate-već-koga ;)
U svakom slučaju, biće interesantno.
auto-moto.477obren,
Ponedeljak, 2. Septembar, 1996
Žak Vilnev želi da postane Svetski Šampion ove godine i povećaće pritisak na
svog timskog kolegu, Dejmona Hila, pošto sada sa sigurnošću zna da mu je mesto
u timu Vilijams osigurano za razliku od Hila.
"Imam jednu brigu manje nego Dejmon. Borba još traje i sve što mogu da učinim
je da budem agresivan i idem na pobedu." - kaže Žak Vilnev.
Vilijams tim je sa svoje strane obećao da će obojici vozača pružiti jednaku
podršku u preostale tri trke.
Stjuart Grand Prix tim potvrdio je da je imao "neformalne kontakte" sa Hilom.
Pol Stjuart, menadžer svog oca, Džekija Stjuarta, izjavio je: "Ako je Dejmon
zainteresovan za nas i cena bude odgovarajuća, to bi bilo interesantno za
sve nas. Imali smo neformalne kontakte ali pregovori još uvek nisu poodmakli.
Bilo bi lepo imati britanske vozače ali to nije imperativ, moto trke su
globalan sport."
auto-moto.478obren,
Williams i Frencen potpisali ugovor? (2. Septembar 1996)
"Suddeutche Zeitung" izvestio je danas da je H.H. Frencen već potpisao ugovor
sa ekipom Vilijams-Reno za sumu od 10 miliona nemačkih maraka. Rečeno je
takođe da će Nemac biti prvi vozač u timu, dok će Vilnev ostati drugi.
auto-moto.479junior,
Reply: Chat (mila)
>> Ovi Hilovci me stvarno smaraju, nemaju pojma kako Šumaher
> Obzirom na tvoje (mlađahne) godine, neznanje i neiskustvo,
> mišljenja sam da ti ovakve izjave ne treba uzimati za zlo. ;)
Zar smatraš da Frank W. nije dovoljno kompetentan? Čovek zna, da je ovo što je
Hill do sad ostvario, ostvario samo uz pomoć bolida i superiornost motora. Ne
kažem ja da je Hill slepac (mada nije daleko od toga :), ali on je jedan
prosečan vozač, mnogo izvikan od strane medija, koji nikad i nije prikazao
nešto spektakularno u Formuli 1.
Jedno samo ne mogu da mu zamerim, a to je da nije glup. :) Ako stvarno pređe
u Mclaren, to neće biti nimalo glup poslovni potez. Reno se ove godine povlači
iz formule, znači svi vodeći timovi u šampionatu moraju da traže novog
proizvođača, a samo Mclaren i Ferrari (od ozbiljnijih timova :) ostaju sa istim
bolidom i istim motorom. Ova 2 tima su po meni i najozbiljniji konkurenti,
sledeće godine, za titulu.
P.S. Ali voleo bih da vidim Hila u Jordanu :)
auto-moto.480firus,
>>> Ovi Hilovci me stvarno smaraju, nemaju pojma kako Sumaher
>> Obzirom na tvoje (mladahne) godine, neznanje i neiskustvo,
>> misljenja sam da ti ovakve izjave ne treba uzimati za zlo. ;)
> Zar smatras da Frank W. nije dovoljno kompetentan? Covek zna,
> da je ovo sto je Hill do sad ostvario, ostvario samo uz pomoc
> bolida i superiornost motora. Ne kazem ja da je Hill slepac
> (mada nije daleko od toga :), ali on je jedan prosecan vozac,
> mnogo izvikan od strane medija, koji nikad i nije prikazao
> nesto spektakularno u Formuli 1.
Jasta, dabome ...
Hil je jedan ocajno los vozac ... Zao mi je to sto kazem,
jer sam njegov vatreni navijac (bolje reci, navijac sam Vilijamsa,
a Hil je prvi vozac vec par sezona), ali to je cinjenica.
Ume da vozi samo kada nema nikoga ispred sebe - cim je prinudjen da
se bori za poziciju, ne ume da se snadje i korektno izveze trku.
Ako nema pol-poziciju, dobija trku samo ukoliko nekome otkaze motor.
Cini mi se da su cak i "gubitnici" tipa O. Panisa kvalitetniji
vozaci od Hila, samo sto voze u (objektivno) losijim bolidima.
Vilijams je napravio genijalan potez dovevsi Vilneva u F1 !
Kada je pocela prica o njegovom prelasku u F1 - molio sam se Bogu
da onaj !@#**@& Nemac, Sumaher, ostane u Benetonu, zato sto bi onda
uzivali u kvalitetnim trkama, u borbi dva izvanredna, genijalna,
(mada je Sumaher neuporedivo veci hazarder) vozaca u priblizno
istim bolidima (mada, cini mi se da ce Ferarijev bolid za sledecu
sezonu biti prava azdaja na 4 tocka - tako da ima nade).
No, bilo kako bilo, Hila mi je zao, mada mislim da je mudro
"zrtvovati" jednog coveka radi uspeha citavog tima ... Ko zna,
mozda Hilu i bude od koristi da vozi neku sezonu u nekom slabom
timu !? Ali, covek vise i nije tako mlad (36 godina, zar ne !?),
tako da mislim da je "odsvirao svoje" (nije Hil Berger, koji zna da
trka traje do kraja i da su iznenadjenja moguca) ...
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Akcija za lepsi i bolji SEZAM (ALBS)
auto-moto.481djanjusevic,
>> sa ekipom Vilijams-Reno za sumu od 10 miliona nemackih maraka. Receno je
>> takode da ce Nemac biti prvi vozac u timu, dok ce Vilnev ostati drugi.
Nece moci ove noci :) Vilnev je MNOGOOO bolji od Frentzena.
auto-moto.482obren,
> Nece moci ove noci :) Vilnev je MNOGOOO bolji od Frentzena.
Tako je! Reci ti njima. ;)
auto-moto.483obren,
> Hil je jedan ocajno los vozac ... Zao mi je to sto kazem,
> jer sam njegov vatreni navijac (bolje reci, navijac sam Vilijamsa,
> a Hil je prvi vozac vec par sezona), ali to je cinjenica.
U bre, ala napadoste čoveka... :) Zaista, Hilov stil vožnje ne obiluje
agresivnošću, što možda čini da nije zanimljiv za gledanje kao npr.
Airton Sena, ali ne bih rekao da je očajno loš vozač. ;)
> Ume da vozi samo kada nema nikoga ispred sebe - cim je prinudjen da
> se bori za poziciju, ne ume da se snadje i korektno izveze trku.
He, a šta treba da radi onaj koji izbije na prvo mesto da bi se ljudi
složili da je on dobro odvezao trku? Nije on kriv što vozi dobar bolid
i vrlo često uzima polpozicije i povede trke. E sad što se tiče njegove
vožnje kada nije na prvom mestu moraš da uzmeš u obzir da on u drugoj
polovini sezone ima solidnu prednost u poenima i da mu je daleko
važnije da uzima poene nego da ide pošto poto na pobede. On je pre svega
vozač koji ide na sigurno, a to, priznajem, nije i atraktivan vozač.
Ne bih sad ulazio u špekulacije zašto se dovodi Frencen (BMW?) i da li
je Hil "otpušten" što ne zna da vozi, što traži mnogo para ili što mu
vreme prilazi (36 godina).
Najbolje će biti da sačekamo da preže u taj drugi tim pa da vidimo gde
mu je mesto, kao što smo videli i gde je mesto Dejvida Kultarda za koga
su neki izjavljivali da je izmislio vožnju za Hila. Ako budu ponovo u
istom timu, eto prilike da se ponovo uporede. :)
auto-moto.484firus,
>> Hil je jedan ocajno los vozac ... Zao mi je to sto kazem,
>> jer sam njegov vatreni navijac (bolje reci, navijac sam
>> Vilijamsa, a Hil je prvi vozac vec par sezona), ali to je
> U bre, ala napadoste coveka... :) Zaista, Hilov stil voznje ne
> obiluje agresivnoscu, sto mozda cini da nije zanimljiv za
> gledanje kao npr. Airton Sena, ali ne bih rekao da je ocajno
> los vozac. ;)
Ne mora stil da bude agresivan da bi bio atraktivan
za gledanje, ne mora cak ni da bude atraktivan, ali neka
daje rezultate uvek - ne sme da bude toliko velikih oscilacija
u ucinku od trke do trke. Hil ponekad (cesto !?) ume da izleti
sa staze, iskljucivo svojom krivicom. Hil izgubi dobru poziciju
na startu jer lose krece, Hil se plasi preticanja itd. ...
Volim ga, ali ovo su tuzne cinjenice ...
BTW, Senu (pokoj mu dusi), nikada nisam voleo -
verujem da ovo vuce korene iz njegovih pocetaka u Lotusu
(mrzeo sam te crne bolide)
>> Ume da vozi samo kada nema nikoga ispred sebe - cim je
>> prinudjen da se bori za poziciju, ne ume da se snadje i
> He, a sta treba da radi onaj koji izbije na prvo mesto da bi se
> ljudi slozili da je on dobro odvezao trku? Nije on kriv sto
> vozi dobar bolid i vrlo cesto uzima polpozicije i povede trke.
Pogledaj Sumahera, Vileneva pa i Alezija i bice ti jasno
sta je dobra voznja. Seti se Monte Karla i iznenadjujuceg
finala. Trka traje do kraja, nema predaje ... Hil se preda cim
skonta da nece ostvariti rezultat koji je planirao.
Onaj &@#*&@* Sumaher startuje sa 8 ili 16 pozicije pa
pobedi, Hilu to nikada ne bi poslo za rukom.
> E sad sto se tice njegove voznje kada nije na prvom mestu moras
> da uzmes u obzir da on u drugoj polovini sezone ima solidnu
> prednost u poenima i da mu je daleko vaznije da uzima poene
> nego da ide posto poto na pobede. On je pre svega vozac koji
Ne mora da juri pobede, ali od gotovog je napravio
veresiju - Vilnev ima velike teoretske i nesto slabije
prakticne izglede da bude sampion (ali to nema veze, bitan je
Vilijams) ... BTW, kolk'o bese razlika - 17 poena !? ;))
Plasim se samo da ne bude finale kao u Australiji kada je onaj
&@*#&*@& Sumaher osvojio titulu na kvarno. Mada, Hil (valjda !?)
nije takav.
> Najbolje ce biti da sacekamo da preze u taj drugi tim pa da
> vidimo gde mu je mesto, kao sto smo videli i gde je mesto
Ovo, joj zalosti, stoji ...
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Akcija za lepsi i bolji SEZAM (ALBS)
auto-moto.485space.ace,
## Ako nema pol-poziciju, dobija trku samo ukoliko nekome otkaze
## motor.
Delimično nisi u pravu, jer prošle sezone sve pobede koje je odneo
nisu bile sa pol pozicije (to što nije dobio nijednu trku sa pol
pozicije je druga priča :).
auto-moto.486bjevtic,
Moz' da pricha ko sta oce..... Od kad gledam F1, i nema Senne, jedini
je dobar Sumaher (Alezi je isto simpatican, ali pomalo slab). Hill
mozda jeste dzentlmen i sta ja znam vec, ali Schumacher jedini u
stanju (u trenutnom sampionatu) da te ugrize za dupe kad ti se nalazi
u repu. Narocito Hila :)
auto-moto.487giovanni,
Ę? P.S. Ali voleo bih da vidim Hila u Jordanu :)
Jezik pregriz'o! ;) Ne diraj mi Jordan-Peugeot!
auto-moto.488firus,
>## Ako nema pol-poziciju, dobija trku samo ukoliko nekome otkaze
>## motor.
> Delimicno nisi u pravu, jer prosle sezone sve pobede koje je
> odneo nisu bile sa pol pozicije (to sto nije dobio nijednu trku
> sa pol pozicije je druga prica :).
Dobro, dobro, priznajem da sam malo preterao ...
Kao sto rekoh, volim Hila (jos vise volim Vilijams), pa zbog
toga ovo preterivanje ... Zao mi ga je, bre !!! Ako u nekoga
polazes sve nade a on ih cesto prokocka izneveri te, postajes
ljut i razocaran ... B(((
auto-moto.489obren,
Sreda, 4. Septembar 1996
Vilijams-Reno tim je i zvanično potvrdio da će njihov drugi vozač sledeće
sezone biti H.H. Frencen. Frencen ove godine vozi za ekipu Zauber-Ford,
zajedno sa Džoni Herbertom.
Vlasnik tima, Frenk Vilijams, i dalje odbija da kaže zašto je došlo do
razlaza izmežu njega i Hila. On je samo izjavio: "Dejmon je dao ogroman
doprinos ovom timu."
F. Vilajams je takođe rekao da je Mihael Šumaher vozač koga najviše ceni i
koga se najviše plaši. "Imam noćne more zamišljajući Mihaela kako sledeće
sezone vozi bolid koji je konkurentan Vilijamsovim. Moraću da idem u crkvu
nedeljom da se molim da Ferari bude nepouzdan. Nije mi u planovima za blisku
budućnost, ali, naravno, voleo bih da vidim Šumahera u Vilijamsu."
auto-moto.490tomislavr,
> Delimično nisi u pravu, jer prošle sezone sve pobede koje je odneo
> nisu bile sa pol pozicije (to što nije dobio nijednu trku sa pol
> pozicije je druga priča :).
Ti delimično nisi u pravu. Pobede Hila prošle godine su bile česte kao
sneg u julu ;), a nemoj mi reći da je nekog pretekao da bi pobedio. Hil
je prošle godine pobedio u Argentini, San Marinu, Mađarskoj i Australiji.
Šumaher nije završio sve te trke osim Argentine, ali je Beneton u
početku sezone imao problema sa upravljivošću. Znači, tu treba tražiti
razloge Hilovih pobeda, kojih i onako nije bilo mnogo. Hil je 95.
pobedio _samo_ jednu trku koju je Šumaher završio, Šumagera _nikad_ nije
pretekao na stazi, i zato je ove godine dobio šut kartu iz Vilijamsa.
Frenku je jasno da mu je Mensel 94. doneo titulu, a ne Hil, a da su mu
95. razna izletanja i nemoguđnost Hila da se suprostavi Šumaheru uzela
titulu i pored tehničke superiornosti bolida. Prvi put kada je imao u
šaci dobrog vozača (Vilneva) Hil je dobio "ispisnicu".
E sad, možda je Frenk Vilijams lud da otpusti "vrhunskog" vozača i da
dovede Frencena, koga čak i više plati od Hila. Frencen je kaparisan još
u junu, tako da ovo nije nagla odluka; Frenk odavno želi da se liši
dvostrukog vicešampiona (možda i trostrukog ;) Imaćeš prilike da vidiš
Hila sledeće godine u, recimo, Stjuartu, pa ćemo videti ima li Hil
sposobnost da se sa jednim nekonkurentnim bolidom popenje na postolje,
da ne kažem pobedi, ili uzme pol-poziciju. Šumahera smo videli da ume.
Moje je mišljenje da u svakom poslu koliko te plate toliko i vrediš,
jer svako voli svoje pare i neće ih uzalud baciti. Znaš valjda koliko se
plaća Šumaheru da vozi a koliko se nije htelo platiti Hilu, a nadam se i
da neće ;).
P.S. Kao navijač Mercedesa samo se molim Bogu da ne dođe u McLaren.
Hakkinen je za njega profesor.
auto-moto.491obren,
Četvrtak, 5. Septembar 1996
Hill razbija zid ćutanja; Newey napušta Wilijams!
Dejmon Hil je konačno prekinuo tišinu oko njegovog napuštanja Vilijamsa od
pre nekoliko dana.
On je to prokomentarisao na sledeći način: "To je bio šok za mene, ali imao
sam i veće šokove u životu a i u Formuli 1. Osećam se kao da sam išao do Marsa
i natrag u zadnjih desetak dana. Sada imam mogućnost da upoznam druge timove.
Mogu poneti svoje iskustvo takođe, kako bih pomogao da se konstruiše bolid
sposoban da pobeđuje."
Hil je takođe dao komaentar i na tračeve oko njegovog napuštanja Formule 1:
"Ja ne odustajem lako. Volim trkačke automobile a najviše volim da se trkam u
Formuli 1, koja je vrhunac auto sporta."
Dejmon je takođe odbacio mogućnost da vozi za Stjuart Grand Prix tim sledeće
godine: "Mora biti dobar, potpun "paket". Nije dovoljno samo da učestvujem u
projektu. Ja želim da pobeđujem, to mi je motivacija". Zatim je dodao: "Vi
ne možete razumeti moje razočaranje. Vodio sam u šampionatu cele sezone, i
mnogo se trudio da postanem vodeći. Uvek sam mislio da je nagrada za dobijene
trke mogućnost da vozim najbolju "opremu". Takođe sam mislio, da će me
osvajanje
ovog šampionata staviti u dobru pregovaračku poziciju na kraju sezone."
Newey napušta Williams
Adrian Newey, glavni konstruktor za Williams-Renault je napustio tim i
prešao da radi za McLaren-Mercedes. Newey se smatra jednim od najboljih
konstruktora u F1.
auto-moto.492obren,
Italian Grand Prix Preview - Monza, Italy
by Toby Waller, England
Circuit Length: 5800 m
Race Length: 53 laps (307.400km)
Monza means two words to the leagues of Formula One fans around the world:
Ferrari and Tifosi. With Schumacher's brilliant win at Spa-Francorchamps
still fresh in the minds of the Italian devotees, hopes for a Ferrari home
win - the first since 1988 - will be rife. The rest of us, meanwhile, have
the prospect of a titanic battle between the Williams drivers, Jacques
Villeneuve and Damon Hill. With both of their races heavily affected by
poor communications at Spa, it seems only fair that the points difference
still remains in Hill's favour - just. Now is the time of year when the
pundits -myself included - get out the calculator and figure out exactly
what Hill and Villeneuve have to do to win the championship. Basically,
Hill can come second to Villeneuve (or 4 points behind, if the events of
last weekend repeat themselves ) at every race and still win the
championship by one point. If Hill loses that point advantage, it comes
down to race wins and Hill will have the clear advantage. Damon won't be
driving for second places, though, and is still favourite to win the
championship, but I don't expect he'll clinch it at Monza - unless Jacques
has a real problem. It's been a great championship so far, but the
variation in winners has been very small. I would dearly love to see some
new faces on the top step but, whilst Williams continue their domination, I
expect we'll be seeing one of the boys in blue spraying the silver bottle
of champagne this weekend. Of the rest, the Benetton pair of Jean Alesi and
Gerhard Berger are coming on nicely. The McLaren-Mercedes seems to fair
well on fast circuits so expect to see Mika Hakkinen and David Coulthard
figuring prominently. Don't discount Schumacher, though. With his terrific
effect now being strongly felt at Ferrari, he may just pull off the win and
give the home crowd the cause for celebration that they've been waiting so
long for.
1995 Results
1. Johnny Herbert Benetton-Renault 1h18m27.916s
2. Mika Hakkinen McLaren-Mercedes + 17.779s
3. H.H. Frentzen Sauber-Ford + 24.321s
4. Mark Blundell McLaren-Mercedes + 28.230s
5. Mika Salo Tyrrell-Yamaha + one lap
6. JC Boullion Sauber-Ford + one lap
Pole Position David Coulthard Williams-Renault 1m24.462s
Fastest Lap Gerhard Berger Ferrari 1m24.419s
auto-moto.493dzakic,
Još jedna Hilova pol pozicija. Rezultati sa kvalifikacija:
1. Hill 1.24.022
2. Villeneuve +0.317
3. Schumacher +0.577
4. Hakinnen +0.736
5. Coulthard +0.772
6. Alesi +0.997
7. Irvine +1.022
8. Berger +1.266
9. Brundle +1.833
10. Barrichelo +1.990
11. Panis
12. Herbert
13. Frentzen
14. Diniz
15. Verstappen
16. Katayama
17. Salo
18. Lamy
19. Rosset
20. Lavaggi
Svi u 107%
auto-moto.494space.ace,
## Adrian Newey, glavni konstruktor za Williams-Renault je napustio
## tim i prešao da radi za McLaren-Mercedes. Newey se smatra jednim od
## najboljih konstruktora u F1.
Ovo čekam celog svog života...
Predosećam da će sledeće sezone McLaren osvanuti u Veeelikom stilu
u svetu formule 1.
auto-moto.495mila,
> Ovo čekam celog svog života...
>
> Predosećam da će sledeće sezone McLaren osvanuti u Veeelikom stilu
> u svetu formule 1.
A ima i indicija da će Hil potpisati ugovor sa West-mecLaren-om, pa
će biti i zanimljivo to pogledati.... :))))
auto-moto.496obren,
Rezultati na kraju trke za Veliku Nagradu Italije u Monci:
1. Schumacher
2. Alesi
3. Hakkinen
4. Brundle
5. Barrichello
6. Diniz
...
Vrlo zanimljiva trka, odlična vožnja Šumahera i Hakinena i nadasve luda
proslava pobede od strane Ferarijevih navijača... :) Šta ima dalje da se
priča - ko nije gledao Moncu, ne treba ni da živi. ;)
auto-moto.497mikeman,
<<!>> Jos jedna Hilova pol pozicija. Rezultati sa kvalifikacija:
Trka je bila debakl za tim Williamsa i za Hill-a koji je u 6.
krugu napravio greshku i ispao iz trke...
Villeneuve nije iskoristio Hillovu greshku i
zavrshio je trku na 7 mestu, bez bodova...
Inache
1. Shumacher
2. Alesi
3. Hakinnen
Alesi je bukvalno izgubio trku zbog stopa, a Hakinnen je i pored
greshke koju je napravio u prvom delu trke (oshtetio prednji deo
bolida) veoma dobro proshao...
auto-moto.498giovanni,
Ę? A ima i indicija da će Hil potpisati ugovor sa West-mecLaren-om, pa
Ę? će biti i zanimljivo to pogledati.... :))))
Zanimljivo? Kako za koga. Meni će sigurno biti draže da Hil ode u McLaren
koji uopšte ne volim i tako me reši brige jer će se Ferrari onda sleće
godine boriti "samo" sa Williamsom i Vilnevom. ;))
Nego, videste li vi ljudi danas ko je najbolji? :))) Da onaj skot Irvajn
nije zakačio onako krvnički gumu, možda bi na pobedničkom postolju bila
oba vozača Ferrarija. :))
auto-moto.499bjevtic,
1 mesto Schumacher
Nego sta! Da se zna ko je majstor.
Ako je negde nasao da pobedio, to je onda sigurno bila Monza.
auto-moto.500obren,
> Zanimljivo? Kako za koga. Meni će sigurno biti draže da Hil ode u McLaren
> koji uopšte ne volim i tako me reši brige jer će se Ferrari onda sleće
> godine boriti "samo" sa Williamsom i Vilnevom. ;))
Bogami ne budi siguran! :) Meklaren će, izgleda mi, dogodine biti vrlo
ozbiljan tim, motor je izuzetno pouzdan i solidnih performansi, a konačno
će dobiti i dobru šasiju zahvlajujući dolasku Vilijamsovog konstruktora.
Ako im dođe Hil, biće to sjajno pojačanje, ma šta Tomica mislio ;) Ipak,
siguran sam da će navijati on za njega ko bela lala ;)
> Da onaj skot Irvajn nije zakačio onako krvnički gumu, možda bi na
> pobedničkom postolju bila oba vozača Ferrarija. :))
A umalo ni jedan... ;) Sreća (šteta ;>) da švaba nije mnogo "potkačio" gume
inače bi i on parkirao kola pored staze. No dobro, lepo je vozio i drago mi
je prvenstveno zbog Ferarija i njegovih fantastičnih navijača što je pobedio.
Mislim da bi sutra bio neradni dan u italiji da se i Irvajn popeo na
postolje
pored Šumahera :)))
Izgleda da je direktor trke mnogo doprineo zanimljivosti postavljanjem
"gumene zamke" za agresivne vozače. Nego, ko se sve nasuka na one gume?
Hil, Hakinen, Irvajn, Šumaher... ?
Još jedan kuriozitet današnje trke - legendarni ;) Pedro Paulo Diniz, uspeo
je da osvoji i drugi poen u karijeri :))) Inače uopšte nije loše vozio, čak
ni Hakinen nije uspeo da ga obiće već je vozio iza njega 10-15 krugova, sve
dok Pedro nije skrenuo u boks.
P.S. Tomislave, kako to da Šumaher, majstor za preticanje, pred svojim
vernim navijačima nije uspeo da obiđe Alezija dok ovaj nije otišao u boks?
Evidentno je da je bio brži od njega, oko pola sekunde po krugu, što se
videlo i dok ga je stizao i kada ga je posle ostavio! Samo da te podsetim
da je Hil istog tog Alezija obišao dva puta na ovoj trci. Naravno, napravio
je posle grešku zakačivši one gume, to stoji...
auto-moto.501budim,
(:) Alesi je bukvalno izgubio trku zbog stopa, a Hakinnen je i pored
(:) greshke koju je napravio u prvom delu trke (oshtetio prednji deo
(:) bolida) veoma dobro proshao...
Trku sam gledao d otrenutka kada je Alesi ušao u boks, zanima me šta je
bilo posle, pogotovo kako je Hil optišao u boks i ostao prvi? :)
Inače, kakva je ono fora sa pneumaticima pored staze?
poz,
budimir
auto-moto.502tomislavr,
> 1 mesto Schumacher
> Nego sta! Da se zna ko je majstor.
> Ako je negde nasao da pobedio, to je onda sigurno bila Monza.
:))))
Al' smo uzbušeni ;). Elem, još jedna u nizu pobeda tandema
Šumaher-Ferari koje će tek doći. Šteta za Meklarene jer su
obećavali odlične performanse. Izgleda da će onaj test-vozač,
koji je opet zabrljao kada ne treba, preći u već razrađen i
odličan bolid Meklarena. Ali Hil je imao sreće jer očigledno
sa Vilnevovim bolidom nešto nije bilo u redu, što će kraj
sezone učiniti manje zanimljivim jer su sad šanse skoro
nikave da Žak pruži neki otpor.
Šumaher je posle trke izjavio da iako je prilično lako stigao
Alezija, nije ga mogao obići jer nije imao dovoljnu max. brzinu,
i da se samo nadao da Alezi ima manje goriva, i da on odlažući
odlazak u boks što više, dobije trku, što se i dogodilo.
Evo i malo tabela posle Monce.
Drivers Championship (unofficial)
Calculations include the Italian Grand Prix.
1 D.Hill 81 9 O.Panis 13
2 J.Villeneuve 68 10 E.Irvine 9
3 M.Schumacher 49 11 M.Brundle 6
4 J.Alesi 44 12 H.Frentzen 6
5 M.Hakkinen 27 13 M.Salo 5
6 D.Coulthard 18 14 J.Herbert 4
7 G.Berger 17 15 P.Diniz 2
8 R.Barrichello 14 16 J.Verstappen 1
---------------------------------------------------------------
Constructors Championship (unofficial)
Calculations include the Italian Grand Prix.
1 Williams 149 6 Ligier 15
2 Benetton 61 7 Sauber 10
3 Ferrari 58 8 Tyrrell 5
4 McLaren 45 9 Footwork 1
5 Jordan 20
auto-moto.503ljubisha,
>Alesi je bukvalno izgubio trku zbog stopa, a Hakinnen je i pored
>greshke koju je napravio u prvom delu trke (oshtetio prednji deo
>bolida) veoma dobro proshao...
...a po rezultatu Hakinnen je vozio bolje čak i od Šumahera.
auto-moto.504mila,
Jedna tužna vest:danas je na reliju u Bajinoj Bašti poginuo Obren
Tešić, višestruki šampion Jugoslavije u reliju, i pretendent na titulu
i u ovoj godini. Ne znam detalje, ali znam da je sleteo (verovatno na
brzincu) i da je suvozač povređen :((((
auto-moto.505budim,
(:) bilo posle, pogotovo kako je Hil optišao u boks i ostao prvi? :)
Šumaher... Šta ti je žurba... :)
poz,
budimir
auto-moto.507giovanni,
Ę? Bogami ne budi siguran! :) Meklaren će, izgleda mi, dogodine biti vrlo
Ę? ozbiljan tim, motor je izuzetno pouzdan i solidnih performansi, a konačno
Ę? će dobiti i dobru šasiju zahvlajujući dolasku Vilijamsovog konstruktora.
Ę? Ako im dođe Hil, biće to sjajno pojačanje, ma šta Tomica mislio ;) Ipak,
Ne sumnjam ja da će McLaren sledeće godine imati dosta dobar automobil.
Ja sumnjam da će imati iste takve vozače. :))
auto-moto.508giovanni,
Ę? Trku sam gledao d otrenutka kada je Alesi ušao u boks, zanima me šta je
Ę? bilo posle, pogotovo kako je Hil optišao u boks i ostao prvi? :)
Pa Šumi (video sam u sledećoj poruci da si se ispravio) je nekoliko
krugova posle Alezija ušao u boks i ono što je trebalo obavio nešto brže
od Francuza, ali je glavno što je mnogo brže vozio posle ulaska
Benettonovog vozača u pit-stop jer mu je ovaj dotle smetao. Tada je i
napravio razliku koja mu je omogućila da ode na promenu guma i dolivanje
goriva praktično bez bojazni da bi ga Alezi mogao prestići. Drugo, danas
sam u novinama čitao Šumaherovu izjavu da je tek sa drugim kompletom guma
mogao da vozi normalno. Kaže da mu je prvi komplet zadavao dosta muke.
auto-moto.509obren,
> Ne sumnjam ja da će McLaren sledeće godine imati dosta dobar
> automobil. Ja sumnjam da će imati iste takve vozače. :))
A to je u pitanju... Pa valjda će zato sigurno dovesti Hila ;)
auto-moto.510space.ace,
## odličan bolid Meklarena. Ali Hil je imao sreće jer očigledno
## sa Vilnevovim bolidom nešto nije bilo u redu, što će kraj
Normalno da sa Vilnevovim bolidom nije nešto bilo u redu kad je još u
prvom krugu produžio pravo u prvoj šikani! To mu je sigurno poremetilo
"dasku" na dnu bolida, jer bolid nije postizao max brzinu koju uobičajeno
postiže. Napominjem da je Vilnev još dva puta prošao pravo kroz istu krivinu
što je po svim normama za diskvalifikaciju iz trke.
auto-moto.511space.ace,
## .. a po rezultatu Hakinnen je vozio bolje čak i od Šumahera.
Hakinnen je odlično odvezao trku, i čak se usuđujem da kažem da bi
sigurno pobedio da nije oštetio prednji spojler na početku trke, ali to
su sad druge priče...
Pošteno, iako navijam za Hill-a, ne bih voleo da pređe u McLarren, jer
izgleda da konačno Hakinnen ima šansu da uradi nešto u F1.
/ off the record: sledeće godine navijam za Miku Hakinenna /
auto-moto.512space.ace,
## Ako im dođe Hil, biće to sjajno pojačanje, ma šta Tomica mislio ;)
## Ipak, siguran sam da će navijati on za njega ko bela lala ;)
Prevaspitaće zemljaci Tomicu, navijaće on za Hilla sledećih deset godina,
jel' tako obrene?
auto-moto.513lexus,
=> Prevaspitaće zemljaci Tomicu, navijaće on za Hilla sledećih deset
=> godina, jel' tako obrene?
Još ako Hill uspe da se održi u F1 sledećih dve godine, a o deset
da ne govorimo ;)
Schumi Bros ruleZ! ;)
auto-moto.514giovanni,
Ę? A to je u pitanju... Pa valjda će zato sigurno dovesti Hila ;)
Ron Denis mora da je poludeo ako namerava da dâ tolike pare za probnog
vozača. ;)
auto-moto.515obren,
> Prevaspitaće zemljaci Tomicu, navijaće on za Hilla sledećih deset
> godina, jel' tako obrene?
Vidi, ja i on imamo jednu vrstu opklade - čiji pulen osviji šampionsku
titulu, onaj drugi mora da ga ima uramljenog iznad svog kreveta. Tako ja
ove godine započinjem svaki novi dan gledajući "sexy" Švabu :)
E sad, konačno je došlo vreme da se Tomica budi gledajući nasmejanog
Dejmona Hila ;) uramljenog iznad svog kreveta. Kažu da kada si s nekim
neprekidno, vremenom ga i zavoliš... :)
Naravno, bilo bi glupo da sad svi navijamo za istog, onda bi diskusije
ovde bile vrlo monotone. Jedino ako počne da vozi Miloš Pavlović ;)
auto-moto.516djanjusevic,
>> Normalno da sa Vilnevovim bolidom nije nesto bilo u redu kad je jos
>> u prvom krugu produzio pravo u prvoj sikani! To mu je sigurno
>> poremetilo "dasku" na dnu bolida, jer bolid nije postizao max brzinu
>> koju uobicajeno
Aaaaaaa, vidi se da je neko uvezbavao svoje tehnicko znanje o bolidima
kroz igru, bese GP2 ;))
auto-moto.517tomislavr,
> Ron Denis mora da je poludeo ako namerava da dâ tolike pare za
> probnog vozača. ;)
I ja ne mogu da razumem šta će mu Hil, jer još uvek nema toliko jak
bolid da ga test-vozač dovede na cilj prvi ;) Mercedes sledeće godine
verovatno neće biti šampion, ali za 98. godinu postoje ogromne šanse da
to i postane. Zato, zar nije bolje dovesti mladog Šumahera, koji ima
_neverovatna_ vremena na testovima, da se 97. uhoda, a 98. uzima pobede.
To je 91. uradio Flavio Briatore i nije se prešao - njegov Šumaher mu je
ubrzo doneo pobede i titulu u konstruktorima koju ovako nikada ne bi
video.
Dovođenje Ralfa bi unelo dodatnu dozu zanimljivosti u F1, kao recimo
kad je Vilnev došao u Vilijams, jer se radi o zaista odličnom vozaču.
Zar nije bolje da Hil, koji je već dokazao da je vrhunki vozač, ode malo
u Džordan jer, jelte, može on i sa lošijim bolidima da pobeđuje ;), a da
Ralf, ili u krajnjem slučaju Hakinen budu i Mercedesu. To bi bila
idealna sezona.
Ajd kad pomenuh Briatorea, čovek je opet imao jednu legendarnu izjavu.
Na pitanje novinara "Ima li šanse da Hil pređe u Beneton" on je mrtav
'ladan odgovorio - "Ima, ako se Toni razboli". Inače, Toni jedan od
vozača kamiona za dostavu u timu Beneton :))))
auto-moto.518space.ace,
## Aaaaaaa, vidi se da je neko uvezbavao svoje tehnicko znanje o
## bolidima kroz igru, bese GP2 ;))
He, he, trudim se...
Nego, u igri čim prođeš kroz neku od krivina na ilegalan način (presečeš)
odmah dobijaš crnu zastavicu. Šta ćeš, tako nešto se ne očekuje i u pravoj
"igri", jer kad nisu dosad bilion puta diskvalifikovali Šuleta, neće ni
Vilneva :).
auto-moto.519mila,
> u Džordan jer, jelte, može on i sa lošijim bolidima da pobeđuje ;), a da
Imam neki utisak da će ti se ispuniti želja. Ne zaboravi da je Džordan
ove godine izuzetno brz! :)
auto-moto.520giovanni,
Ę? Ajd kad pomenuh Briatorea, čovek je opet imao jednu legendarnu izjavu.
Ę? Na pitanje novinara "Ima li šanse da Hil pređe u Beneton" on je mrtav
Ę? 'ladan odgovorio - "Ima, ako se Toni razboli". Inače, Toni jedan od
Ę? vozača kamiona za dostavu u timu Beneton :))))
:))) Čovek je genije. :))) Nego, nešto mi se po glavi mota jedna misao:
koje ono beše godine se Renault povlači iz F1? Ako je sledeće, sa kojim
motorima će Benetton i Williams u narednoj sezoni da voze? Možda je već
rečeno ali sam ja zaboravio. ;)
auto-moto.521giovanni,
Ę? Naravno, bilo bi glupo da sad svi navijamo za istog, onda bi diskusije
Ę? ovde bile vrlo monotone. Jedino ako počne da vozi Miloš Pavlović ;)
Pa u narednih bar 4 godine neće biti prilike da se navija za istog. :)
Toliko, naime, prognoziraju u "štabu" Pavlovića da će trebati da Miloš
stigne na prag F1. Kažu da imaju plan kojim je predviđeno da naš vozač
neće pre 2000. godine "stasati" za ulazak u neku od ekipa Formule 1.
Zamislite, Ferrari #27 Miloš Pavlović na Pol-Poziciji na startu Velike
Nagrade Italije u Monci. :)
auto-moto.522tomislavr,
> Imam neki utisak da će ti se ispuniti želja. Ne zaboravi da je
> Džordan ove godine izuzetno brz! :)
Nisam primetio da je Džordan negde bio brz ove godine.
Ne kažem da su bili loši, ali nijednom nisu bili potpuno
konkurentni u trci kao recimo Mercedes u Spa ili Monci...
Najbolja trka im je bila sad Monca gde su bili čevrti i
peti posle "osvete rabljenih guma" ;). Ipak ih je Mika
Hakinen i pored dodatnog ulaska u boks, stigao i bogami
ostavio na kraju trke. Znači, ove godine loši, sledeće
godine isti mehaničari, isti inžinjeri, isti motor, koji
je i najjači deo Džordana ali slabo napreduje, očajna
šasija - zaista nema razloga za optimizam :)
Ne mogu a da ih ne uporedim sa Mercedesom, što su svi i
činili do sredine ove sezone, kada je Mercedes napravio
veliki kvalitativni skok u osnosu na Džordan. Za sledeću
sezonu McLaren dobija glavnog inženjera Vilijamsa, prema
tome i zadnja barijera do razvijanja pobedničkog bolida
pada, a to je loša šasija McLarena. Mercedesovi motori su
se pokazali i boljim i pouzdanijim od Pežoovih, a verujem
da u ovom trenutku MB ima i više želje i novca da ih i u
budućnosti razvija. Moje je mišljenje da u skoroj budućnosti
imamo borbu četiri tima - Vilijams, Ferari, McLaren i
Beneton.
Uz poruku konferencija za štampu posle trke kao i neki mali
intervju sa Hilom i Kultardom posle Monce.
monca.zipauto-moto.523obren,
> koje ono beše godine se Renault povlači iz F1? Ako je sledeće, sa kojim
> motorima će Benetton i Williams u narednoj sezoni da voze?
Reno se povlači '98. godine, znači učestvuje i dogodine. E sad, šta misliš
što je Frenk doveo Ha Ha Frencena? ;) Novi proizođač motora je BMW a oni
zahtevaju Arijevca u svojim redovima. :)
Što se tiče Benetona, ništa zvanično se ne zna, ali ja tipujem na Hondu
odnosnu Mugen koji sada snabdeva Ližije koji je u vlasništvu Briatorea.
Međutim, treba naglasiti i da je Honda najavila povratak 1998. godine u
vidu fabričkog tima Honda-Honda, što može donekle da iskomplikuje stvar.
auto-moto.524lexus,
=> koje ono beše godine se Renault povlači iz F1? Ako je sledeće, sa
=> kojim motorima će Benetton i Williams u narednoj sezoni da voze?
=> Možda je već rečeno ali sam ja zaboravio. ;)
Williams će imati BMW motore, za Benneton ne znam.
Baš me zanima koliko vremena će trebati BMW-u da napravi
dobar motor...
auto-moto.525madamov,
> Pa u narednih bar 4 godine neće biti prilike da se navija za istog. :)
Bojim se da je sa karijerom mladog Pavlovića gotovo, s obzirom šta se desilo
njegovom ocu pre mesec dana. B(
auto-moto.526obren,
> Bojim se da je sa karijerom mladog Pavlovića gotovo, s obzirom šta
> se desilo njegovom ocu pre mesec dana. B(
A šta se desilo? Može malo opširnije?
auto-moto.528obren,
> Baš me zanima koliko vremena će trebati BMW-u da napravi dobar motor...
Čini mi se da je BMW pre "dosta" godina imao dođoh-videh-pobedih sezonu,
kada je uzeo šampionsku titulu iste godine kada je i došao. Ipak, danas
je tako nešto dosta teško izvesti :) Mislim da će morati da sačeka BAR
drugu sezonu da bi postigao pre svega zadovoljavajuću pouzdanost ako ne
i performanse. Ipak ceo Vilijams pliva na parama tako da će to biti vrlo
intenzivan razvoj motora. A treba računati i na uzajamnu konkurenciju
dva Nemačka proizvođača automobila, koja će sigurno dovesti do rapidnog
usavršavanja motora kako u Meklarenu tako i u Vilijamsu. ;)
Za sledeću sezonu kažu da će biti vrlo, vrlo zanimljiva zbog sustizanja
performansi Vilijamsa od strane Ferarija, Meklarena, Benetona, Džordana...
Takođe, dolazi i Stjuart tim sa, kažu, odličnim novim Fordovim motorom.
Šta li će tek biti 1998. kada plus dođu BMW i Honda koja će tada slaviti
pedesetogodišnjicu osnivanja, a ove godine je u Indikaru nadmoćno uzela
titulu među konsktruktorima. :)
auto-moto.529vitez.koja,
#=> Bojim se da je sa karijerom mladog Pavlovića gotovo, s obzirom šta
#=> se desilo njegovom ocu pre mesec dana. B(
Može li malo više informacija, za nas neupućene...
sk
auto-moto.530nenad,
Forumula 1, odgovori na često postavljana pitanja (FAQ).
f1-faq.zipauto-moto.531madamov,
> A šta se desilo? Može malo opširnije?
Čuli ste za gospodina Pavlovića koji je ubijen kada je ulazio u Metropol pre
jedno mesec dana? Verovatno jeste, pune su novine bile toga. E, to je bio otac
malog Miloša.
auto-moto.532tomislavr,
Sveže vesti ;)
- Ralf Šumaher je potpisao dvogodišnji ugovor sa Džordan-Pežoom.
- Rubensu Baričelu je ponuđeno da ostane u Džordanu i sledeću godinu.
Čeka se njegov odgovor, mada on razmišlja o Indikaru.
Izgleda da će Hil ipak u McLaren :(
auto-moto.533space.ace,
## Nisam primetio da je Džordan negde bio brz ove godine.
Kako molim? Ajde samo mi navedi ko je postizao najveće brzine u
Silverstonu i Hockenheimu (i još po negde) na treninzima, a bogami
i na trkama! Pa naravno Brundle u Jordan-u!!!
To što ti, zaslepljen "uspesima" svog omiljenog "Šugavka" ;>> i ne
vidiš nikog drugog, to je druga stvar...
## Ne kažem da su bili loši, ali nijednom nisu bili potpuno
## konkurentni u trci kao recimo Mercedes u Spa ili Monci...
Jordan-ov jedini nedostatak je loše urađena šasija (veliki udeo u svemu
tome imaju i vozači :). Kako sam čuo na EuroSport-u, JORDAN za sledeću
sezonu priprema radikalne izmene na svom bolidu, i to najviše na samoj
šasiji (a možda i na vozačima :). Mislim da će sledeće sezone biti jači
nego McLarren sad, a ako im i Hill dođe, onda ihaaa...
Što se tiče samog McLarren Mečke, tri reči : tim koji (mnogo) obećava.
Ako Šampion (zna se ko, jel') pređe tamo, biće lep fajt za drugo mesto
između njega i Šugavka, jer Villeneuve garant osvaja titulu sledeće
sezone (s druge strane, možda i neće, sve to u zavisnosti kako se pokaže
njihov nov /nadam se BMW/ motor).
Nego, vaša procena, da li će se Šampion odlučiti da u Portugalu stvarno
postane šampion, ili će sačekati Suzuku da tamo pokaže svoj pravi
talenat :)).
P.S. Naravno da ne mislim da je Šugavko (Schu(gavko)macher) Šampion :).
auto-moto.534space.ace,
## Zamislite, Ferrari #27 Miloš Pavlović na Pol-Poziciji na startu
## Velike Nagrade Italije u Monci. :)
Mislim da ova rečenica spada u Extra:SF :)))
/ naravno, jer će voziti #28 /
auto-moto.535tomislavr,
>## Nisam primetio da je Džordan negde bio brz ove godine.
>
> Kako molim? Ajde samo mi navedi ko je postizao najveće brzine u
> Silverstonu i Hockenheimu (i još po negde) na treninzima, a bogami
U Silverstonu se ne sećam, a u Hokenhajmu na treningu Kultard (341), a
na trci Hakinen (349 - slipstrim iza Vilneva). Jordanima se desi da
postave max. brzine na ponekoj stazi, i to na nezvaničnim treninzima
uglavnom, ali pitam te, čega je to merilo? Ja mislim da je to odraz
trenutnog setapa, što ne znači da neki drugi tim ne može da bude "brži"
u vidu max. brzine. Ja mislim da je poenta imati setap kojim ćeš
pobediti u trci, uzeti pol poziciju, a ne imati max. brzinu tog vikenda
(a i to im ne uspeva :). Da li je Jordan ikada bio konkurentan _u trci_?
Ne.
> Jordan-ov jedini nedostatak je loše urađena šasija (veliki udeo u
> svemu tome imaju i vozači :). Kako sam čuo na EuroSport-u, JORDAN za
> sledeću sezonu priprema radikalne izmene na svom bolidu, i to
> najviše na samoj šasiji (a možda i na vozačima :). Mislim da će
> sledeće sezone biti jači nego McLarren sad, a ako im i Hill dođe,
> onda ihaaa...
Brundle i Baričelo su obojica solidni vozači. Tu ne treba tražiti
razloge neuspeha Jordana, već u bolidu. Ko će da im sledeće godine uradi
šasiju? Taj isti (Geri Anderson) koji im je i ove godine radio. E, možda
mu dođe iz d*peta u glavu između '96. i '97. pa za sledeću godinu napravi
šasiju kao Vilijamsovu ;) Jordan nema ni sredsta ni ljudstvo da parira
McLarenu u sledećih nekoliko godina, a još McLarenu dolazi glavni
inženjer Vilijamsa... Još samo da im Hil dođe ima da budu šampioni ;>.
> Što se tiče samog McLarren Mečke, tri reči : tim koji (mnogo)
> obećava. Ako Šampion (zna se ko, jel') pređe tamo, biće lep fajt za
> drugo mesto između njega i Šugavka, jer Villeneuve garant osvaja
> titulu sledeće sezone (s druge strane, možda i neće, sve to u
> zavisnosti kako se pokaže njihov nov /nadam se BMW/ motor).
Prvo BMW dolazi '98., a sledeće godine će šampion biti onaj koji
sada ima broj 1. Vilnev tu neće imati šta da traži, baš kao Hil
'95.
> Nego, vaša procena, da li će se Šampion odlučiti da u Portugalu
> stvarno postane šampion, ili će sačekati Suzuku da tamo pokaže svoj
> pravi talenat :)).
Moja je procena da će Hil sve rešiti u Portugalu.
auto-moto.536miko,
++ Izgleda da ce Hil ipak u McLaren :(
Pa ne znam kako,s'obzirom da Dennis nudi Hakkinen-u 10 mil. za
sledecu sezonu i to kao prvom vozacu,a Coulthard je pod ugovorom
i 1997. Ako bi se McL i nekako suptilno otarasio Coulthard-a,Hill
se ne bi zadovoljio podredjenim polozajem.Naravno,o odlasku Hakkinen-a
nema ni govora,posto isti polako postaje zastitni znak McLaren-a.
MV
auto-moto.537stefan,
>Čuli ste za gospodina Pavlovića koji je ubijen kada je ulazio u Metropol pre
>jedno mesec dana? Verovatno jeste, pune su novine bile toga. E, to je bio otac
>malog Miloša.
Ja danas u Politici pročitah izjavu Milivoja Pavlovića za koga u članku
piše da je Milošev otac.
auto-moto.538madamov,
> Ja danas u Politici pročitah izjavu Milivoja Pavlovića za koga u članku
> piše da je Milošev otac.
Ne čitam Politiku tako da mi je ovo promaklo. Izvinjavam se za dezinformaciju,
izvor je, navodno, bio pouzdan. I drago mi je što sam pogrešio, bilo bi šteta
da se prekine tek započeta karijera.
auto-moto.539obren,
> Ja danas u Politici pročitah izjavu Milivoja Pavlovića za koga u
> članku piše da je Milošev otac.
Jes' vala... :) Nisam pratio zbivanja oko ubistva u hotelu "Metropol",
ali drug mi reče da se onaj upokojeni zvao valjda Zoran Stevanović (?)
(Ne, nije to "Steva Svinja" iz KK Partizan ;)
Milane, Milane, cccc... Preseče nas sve! :)
auto-moto.540giovanni,
Ę? nego McLarren sad, a ako im i Hill dođe, onda ihaaa...
Ako im (Džordanu) Hil dođe onda im džaba i najbolji bolid na svetu i
najjači motor. Taj tim onda ni sam Bog ne bi mogao da spasi.
auto-moto.541giovanni,
Ę? Mislim da ova rečenica spada u Extra:SF :)))
Ę? / naravno, jer će voziti #28 /
Zašto? Mogao bi i prvi vozač tima da bude. :))
auto-moto.542obren,
Mika Hakinen potpisao jednogodišnji ugovor sa McLarenom, tako da oba vozača
ovog tima nastavljaju da voze i u sezoni 1997. Dakle, Dejmon Hil definitivno
neće ići u McLaren, a gde će još se ne zna. :)
auto-moto.543junior,
> ovog tima nastavljaju da voze i u sezoni 1997. Dakle, Dejmon
> Hil definitivno neće ići u McLaren, a gde će još se ne zna. :)
Možda će ipak u penziju? ;)
To bi mu bilo najbolje .. osvojio je titulu, nema razloga da se više
dokazuje, stekao je ime, a ima već pozamašan broj godina (i red bi bio
da stekne ime ;) pa neka se penzioniše ili pređe u Formulu 3, Indycar
ili karting .. šta mu najviše leži ;)
BTW, koliko je Hakinen dobio za ostanak .. ako znaš?
auto-moto.544obren,
> BTW, koliko je Hakinen dobio za ostanak .. ako znaš?
Na žalost, ne znam tačno... :) Nezvanično - oko 8 miliona $.
auto-moto.546djanjusevic,
>> da stekne ime ;) pa neka se penzionise ili prede u Formulu 3, Indycar
>> ili karting .. sta mu najvise lezi ;)
Dejmon nikada profesionalno nije vozio karting, vec je poceo motosport
karijeru na motoru.
auto-moto.547miko,
++ da stekne ime ;) pa neka se penzionise ili prede u
++ Formulu 3, Indycar
Preko svega sto si napisao i (ne)mogu nekako da predjem,ali
gde si video da je vozac iz F1 presao u F3 !???
auto-moto.548junior,
> Preko svega sto si napisao i (ne)mogu nekako da predjem,ali
> gde si video da je vozac iz F1 presao u F3 !???
:) A gde si video da svetski šampion ne može da nađe posao? :>
P.S. Estoril: 1. Hill
2. Vilnev
3. Alezi
4. Šumaher
...
auto-moto.549djcorto,
> P.S. Estoril: 1. Hill
Da, stvarno, nema izvestaja sa treninga ?!?!!
auto-moto.550mila,
Iz današnje "Politike":
Šumaher potpisao za Džordan-pežo
Ralf Šumaher, mlađi brat dvostrukog svetskog šampiona, potpisao
trogodišnji ugovor sa timom Edija Džordana i debituje na prvoj
trci sledeće sezone u Australiji
Uoči trke za "Veliku nagradu Portugalije" ovog vikenda, tim
"Džordan-pežo" iz Velike Britanije dobio je novog vozača za
sledeće tri sezone u "formuli 1". To je Ralf Šumaher, mlađi brat
slavnog nemačkog asa i dvostrukog svetskog šampiona.
-U pitanju je provereni pobednik u kartingu, "formuli 3" i
"formuli 3000". Pred njim je sjajna perspektiva i sigurno velika
trkačka budućnost. Srećni smo što ćemo sledeće tri godine imati
u timu takvig vozača- rekao je Edi Džordan, vlasnik istoimenog
britanskog tima.
Ralf Šumaher ima 21 godinu. Ove sezone se takmiči u japanskoj
"formuli 3000" i ubedljivo vodi u konkurenciji vozača.
- Više sam nego zadovoljan svojim novim ugovorom i činjenicom
da ću debitovati u "formuli 1". Čast mi je što sam došao u tako
dobar i konkurentan tim kao što je Džordan. To je prilika o
kojoj sanja svaki mladi vozač - rekao je mlađi Šumaher.
I njegov poznatiji brat se na jednoj trci, na početku
blistave karijere, takmičio za tim "Džordana".
- Veoma sam srećan što će Ralf konačno debitovati u "formuli
1" i mislim da je "Džordan-pežo" pravi tim za njega. Prijatno me
iznenadio rezultatima postignutim na testiranju i profesionalnim
pristupom koji krasi velike vozače - rekao je Mihael Šumaher.
Iz "Džordana" još nisu saopštili ime drugog vozača za sledeću
sezonu. Poznato je da dvojici sadašnjih njihovih vozača Brazilcu
Rubensu Baričelu i Britancu Martinu Brandlu ugovori ističu na
kraju ovogodišnjeg prvenstva. Pregovori sa Dejmonom Hilom još
uvek traju, ali britanski as trenutno prvenstveno brine o
predstojećoj trci na Estorilu gde ima šansu da obezbedi svoju
prvu šampionsku titulu.
Mija primedba: Ostaje nam da se nadamo da mlađi Šumaher nije
učio od svog brata, i da nije onako kvaran vozač. Nadajmo se da
u sebi ima i ljudskih kvaliteta. ;)
auto-moto.551mikeman,
Evo ga senna iz doba kad je vozio u zutom "Camel" bolidu!
PS> kakvi hill, villeneuve, shumaher...
SENNA Rulez !
senna.zipauto-moto.552djcorto,
> Evo ga senna iz doba kad je vozio u zutom "Camel" bolidu!
To je bio Lotus ... takodje pokojni :(
auto-moto.553supers,
>> Evo ga senna iz doba kad je vozio u zutom "Camel" bolidu!
E, još ako neko ima GIF crnog Lotusa, da mi Win desktop konačno
dobije wallpaper :)
auto-moto.554tomislavr,
Pošto Hilovci neće, moraću ja ;) Rezultati trke za VN Portugalije:
1. Vilnev 4. Alezi
2. Hil 5. Irvajn
3. Šumaher 6. Berger
Znači, konačna odluka je pomerena za Japan. Hilu treba samo jedan poen da
osigura titulu, u protivnom - ako on ne osvoji taj poen, Vilnevu treba 10
poena tj. pobeda da postane šampion. Znači šanse su male, ne zbog toga što će
Hil da uzme taj poen, već što će u Japanu Šumaher da pobedi... ;)
Hil posle trke nije bio preterano zadovoljan, jer je već mogao biti šampion,
a ovo mu je sigurno smanjilo ionako malu cenu ;) Žalio se na kvačilo, i
verovatno je to razlog očajne vožnje pred kraj, jer iako je to Hil (poznati
taktizer pred kraj trke ;), ne verujem da bi bilo ko normalan onako vozio
boreći se za titulu.
Žaku svaka čast, učinio je ovu dosadnu sezonu bar malo zanimljivijom. Biće
lepih duela njega, Šumahera, Hakinena, Frencena i Alezija sledeće godine. A
što se tiče Hila videćemo ko će kome dogodine da ablenduje ;>
P.S. Glupan i tupan na visini zadatka. :(
auto-moto.555miko,
++ :) A gde si video da svetski sampion ne moze da nade
++ posao? :>
Sampion je zrtva,kako Franka Williamsa,tako i krize koja u poslednje
vreme vlada u F1.
Naime,cenjeni nam Damon Hill je trebalo da osvoji titulu jos dok
je vozio sa Prostom.Medjutim,tada je Williams znao da mu naredjuje
iz box-a da propusta tzv. "profesora",da bi ovaj potom iskusno i
rutinski,kako i dolikuje velikom vozacu (fuj), priveo trku kraju.
Hill je morao da se povinuje takvim nalozima cak i kada je imao
prednost od pola minute,pa bi,mucenik,prakticno stao na stazi
kako bi se metuzalem dovukao do njega i prestigao ga.E,sada,taj
isti Williams prica kako nece da se mesa u dvoboj svojih vozaca
jer je njemu svejedno ko ce da bude sampion.Kakva laz em sramota!
Dalje,sledece godine,kada je sutnuo Prosta,Williams dovodi Sennu.
Kako svi znamo sta se ubrzo dogodilo i kojom je snagom sve to potreslo
Williams-ov tim,Damon ipak uspeva da im obezbedi titulu sampiona
konstruktora.Titula najboljeg vozaca mu je oteta...svi ste videli kako.
Prosle godine je Schumacher u box-u uzimao u proseku po 3 sekunde
Hill-u,a o taktici zaustavljanja je izlisno i govoriti.Za sve to vreme
Coulthard ima u ne malom broju slucajeva,cak pripremljeniji bolid od
Damon-a,a Damon nema podrsku svog tima.
Ove godine Williams ne samo da ne obraca paznju na Hill-a,vec je
cvrsto odlucan da mu uzme titulu koju je ovaj vec odavno zasluzio.
O konstantnim kvarovima na njegovom bolidu,vec je izlisno i govoriti,ja
samo ne mogu da se setim kada je Jacques doziveo kvar na svojoj
masini?? Sve to jos i nekako,ali da mu ni u box ne daju da udje na
vreme,to je skandalozno.Ali kako zivimo u materijalistickom svetu,sve
je to razumljivo.Schumacher-ove titule su dovele 250 hiljada ljudi u
Hockenheim,da ne govorim o marketinskom efektu u Nemackoj.Prost je jos
ranije doveo sa sobom gomilu sponzora,Senna jos vise.Eventualna titula
Jacques-a bi bila "prava stvar" jer bi,toboze,ozivela uspavanu F1 i
nagovestila jedan novi rivalitet koji bi vratio formuli staru slavu i
primamljivost.Kada covek sve to pogleda,vidi da Damon nije ni imao
sansu.Ne bi me uopste cudilo da mu se u Japanu misteriozno pokvari
menjac,pukne guma,otkaze motor ili da bude zrtva "slucajnog" sudara
koji su izazvali Pedro Diniz i Giancarlo Fisicella.Bilo kako bilo
Damon ce sigurno pronaci angazman jer je trenutno najbolji vozac u
F1.Drugi mogu samo od muke da gore ...
auto-moto.556miko,
1. Jacques
2. Hill +19s
3. Schmacher +53s
Na konferenciji za stampu posle trke,Hill je kipeo od besa! Medjutim,ostao
je dosledan i korektno je odgovarao na sva pitanja.Rekao je da je imao
dosta problema,kako sa menjacem,tako i sa mehanicarima u box-u,a da je
sa druge strane,Vileneuve prosto leteo po stazi ... zanimljivo.
Jacques je,kao i obicno,presretan sa osvojenom pozicijom (ma koja to bila)
i kaze da jos nista nije gotovo (covek je bas optmista),dok Schumacher
misli da je i pored malih nedostataka,Ferrari konacno na putu ...
P.S. Konacno da i Irvine uzme neki bod (tacnije dva :)
auto-moto.557giovanni,
Ę? :) A gde si video da svetski šampion ne može da nađe posao? :>
Pa Vilnev ima zagarantovan posao sledeće godine. ;)
auto-moto.559schef,
=- sansu.Ne bi me uopste cudilo da mu se u Japanu misteriozno
=- pokvari menjac,pukne guma,otkaze motor ili da bude zrtva
=- "slucajnog" sudara koji su izazvali Pedro Diniz i Giancarlo
=- Fisicella.Bilo kako bilo
;)))))
A zamislite scenu - Damon Hil ispao iz trke, a u zadnjem krugu Šumaher
propušta Vilneva koji trijumfalno prolazi kroz cilj. ;) No, nije valjda
Šumaher TOLIKO kvaran? ;)
Srleř
auto-moto.560mikeman,
#> Uoci trke za "Veliku nagradu Portugalije" ovog vikenda, tim
Hill je jos jednom dokazao da "nema srce" za F1 !
Vozio je ziheraski, a cim je Villeneuve izbio na 1 mesto, Hill se
skrasio na drugom i ostavio da u zavrsnoj trci onemoguci Vil.-a
da uzme titulu... Ljah... Odvratno...
F1 nije zasluzila ovakvog sampiona (sem ako Hill ne dokaze svoju
sposobnost, i uspe da prokocka ovu prednost)....
Svejedno, Hill je izduvao svoje...
#> Rubensu Baricelu i Britancu Martinu Brandlu ugovori isticu na
Da sam na mestu Jordana, zadrzao bi Baricela... za Brundleta ne znam..
#> Mija primedba: Ostaje nam da se nadamo da mladi Sumaher nije
#> ucio od svog brata, i da nije onako kvaran vozac. Nadajmo se da
#> u sebi ima i ljudskih kvaliteta. ;)
Nadajmo se da ti "ljudski" kvaliteti nisu poput Hillovih (de mozes
300kmh vozi 250 ;>>) ...
auto-moto.561mikeman,
#> Trku sam gledao d otrenutka kada je Alesi usao u boks, zanima me sta je
#> bilo posle, pogotovo kako je Hil optisao u boks i ostao prvi? :)
#> Inace, kakva je ono fora sa pneumaticima pored staze?
Jos jedan okasneo odgovor, al nema veze.
Pa fora sa gumama pored staze je to sto je bas, Hill koji se zbog njih
zajebucnuo, insistirao da se one tu stave (sudba, neki bi rekli...)
Kolko se secam Sumah. je, nakon sto je alesi uso u boks, poceo veoma
brzo da vozi (ubrzao je, jelte) i stekao dovoljnu prednost, tako da je
mogao mirno da ode u boks i da zadrzi 1 mesto...
auto-moto.563obren,
> Hill je jos jednom dokazao da "nema srce" za F1 !
> Vozio je ziheraski, a cim je Villeneuve izbio na 1 mesto, Hill se
> skrasio na drugom i ostavio da u zavrsnoj trci onemoguci Vil.-a
> da uzme titulu... Ljah... Odvratno...
Pre nego što počneš sa ovakvim kvalifikacijama, treba da se informišeš
šta se zapravo dešavalo na dotičnoj trci. Svakome koga ne vode emocije
već zdrav razum bilo bi jasno da nešto nije u redu kada Vilnev počinje
da skida po sekundu po krugu a nakon izlaska iz boksa prosto leti ispred
Hila ostavivši ga na kraju pola kruga.
Hil je sredinom trke imao kvar na kvačilu, a nakon što su mu radio vezom
iz boksa potvrdili da ima kvar išao je samo na to da kako-tako završi
trku. Sa pokvarenim kvačilom, drugo mesto i 6 poena je izuzetan uspeh.
Nadam se da se kvačilo slučajno pokvarilo i da mu u Suzuki neće ispasti
motor na stazi... Toliko je valjda zaslužio za sve ove godine u Vilijamsu.
auto-moto.564mikeman,
> Pre nego sto pocnes sa ovakvim kvalifikacijama, treba da se informises
Izvinjavam se. (mada sve receno stoji, al ne za ovu trku)
auto-moto.565junior,
> propušta Vilneva koji trijumfalno prolazi kroz cilj. ;) No,
> nije valjda Šumaher TOLIKO kvaran? ;)
Što da ne? :) Uostalom, na pobedničkom postolju u Estorilu, Šumaher i
Vilnev, samo što se nisu izljubili koliko su se grlili i špricali, a
mlađani Vilnev, nije imao _hrabrosti_ da okrene glavu u desno i pogleda
Hilla. Kao da nešto krade .. stvarno, trulo. :(
.to miko - daj mani se teorije zavere .. da je on dobar vozač, njega bi odavno
gurali unapred i nadali se u njega da može da uzme titulu Šumaheru.
Dva puta se pokazao kao nesposoban, iako sa konkurentim (neću reći
boljim, ali bar u istom rangu :) bolidom, jer nije uspeo da pobedi
Šumija. Sve što se dešava je logična posledica njegovog ponašanja i
njegove vožnje.
auto-moto.566mila,
> .to miko - daj mani se teorije zavere .. da je on dobar vozač, njega bi
> odavno gurali unapred i nadali se u njega da može da uzme titulu Šumaheru.
> Dva puta se pokazao kao nesposoban, iako sa konkurentim (neću reći
> boljim, ali bar u istom rangu :) bolidom, jer nije uspeo da pobedi
> Šumija. Sve što se dešava je logična posledica njegovog ponašanja i
> njegove vožnje.
Da malo razjasnimo: Hil je izgubi titulu od Šumahera pretprošle godine
na veoma pokvaren način. To svi pravi poznavaoci i ljubitelji auto-sporta,
ma koliko navijački nastrojeni, moraju da priznaju. Oni koji to odbijaju,
svrstavaju sebe u kategoriju pratilaca "ljubitelja_krvi_na_stazi", a takvi
mi nisu baš omiljeni. Pre svega zbog njihovog neznanja.
Što se teorije zavere tiče, nije li sasvim moguće da jedan hladnokrvan
tip poput Frenka Wilijamsa osmisli i sprovede jednu takvu? Kad su interesi
i novci u pitanju, sve je moguće. A da su interesi i novci u pitanju, sasvim
je jasno. Bavari uslovljavaju svoj motor angažmanom Frencena, a Frenk treba
da odluči koga da šutne: mladog i perspektivnog Vilneva, uzgred i jeftinijeg,
ili već na (po godinama starosti) zalasku karijere, dobrog, ali skupog, uvek
do sada gubitnika iz tuđih interesa, pa mu to neće teško pasti ni sad, Hila,
i da time oslobodi mesto za Frencena. Nemoj mi pričati kako si ubeđen u to da
je Frenk procenio i ocenio Frencena kao boljeg od Hila, i kao budućeg
šampiona?
To ne prolazi.
Biće mi drago zbog svih vas, koji mrzite Hila, (ja Šumahera ne mrzim, samo
ga ne volim) da sledeće godine gledamo zanimljivu borbu, ravnopravnu, Džordan-
-pežoa, McLarena, Ferrarija, i ako bog da Stewart-a. Namerno izostavljam
Wiliams, jer vam je svima znano da ih je napustio konstruktor šasija, koji će
svojim prisustvom u McLaren-u, učiniti ovaj tim ponovo konkurentnim.
Da se vratimo na teoriju zavere: Dakle, zbog navedenih razloga, Frenk se
odlučuje da šutne Hila, u kom slučaju, ako pomenuti osvoji titulu, startni broj
1, inače stvar prestiža u Formuli 1, odlazi u neki drugi tim. Frenk to smatra
nepravdom, obzirom da njegovi bolidi suvereno vladaju pistama širom sveta,
(i zaslužuju da nose broj 1), pa rešava da tu nepravdu ispravi, posluživši se
malo nesportskim metodama. Nije li simptomatično da se Hil okrene na stazi u
Monci, kad vodi 10-tak sekundi ispred drugog, i da mu se pri tome ugasi motor?
Nije li simptomatično, da posle ubedljivog vođstva otkazuje kvačilo, i zakazuje
ekipa u boksu, i malo duže vrši zamenu i dolivanje potencijalnom šampionu
(koji,
uzgred, "ima isti tretman u ekipi kao i Vilnev")? Priznaćeš, postoji sijaset
razloga da Frenk napravi zaveru protiv Hila, kao i sijaset razloga da
poznavaoci
auto-sporta i prilika u istom posumnjaju da ta zavera ipak postoji......
Nažalost :(
auto-moto.567giovanni,
Ę? koji su izazvali Pedro Diniz i Giancarlo Fisicella.Bilo kako bilo
Ę? Damon ce sigurno pronaci angazman jer je trenutno najbolji vozac u
Ę? F1.Drugi mogu samo od muke da gore ...
Nije mi muka a i zašto bi mi bilo kad navijam za boljeg vozača. :)) Nego,
jel' tebi Hil platio taj oglas koji si napisao ili ti to onako
volonterski? ;))
p.s. NHF ali ti ga pretera u hvaljenju Vilijamsovog vozača.
auto-moto.568junior,
> uzgred, "ima isti tretman u ekipi kao i Vilnev")? Priznaćeš,
> postoji sijaset razloga da Frenk napravi zaveru protiv Hila,
> kao i sijaset razloga da poznavaoci auto-sporta i prilika u istom
> posumnjaju da ta zavera ipak postoji......
Ok, niko nije rekao da je nemoguće. Možda je i Srbija bila stvarno žrtva
zavere CIA-e, Vatikana, i povampirene Nemačke .. masone i da ne spominjem. Ali
zar nije logičnije (pristupačnije nama običnim smrtnicima čiji se IQ kreće oko
130 te nemamo potencijala da uvidimo te belosvetske zavere oko naših glava) da
uzroke svega tražimo u racionalnim stvarima. Jer ako ovako odlutamo, sa
pretpostavkama, zaslepljeni (da, zaslepljeni) ljubavlju prema Hilu, i upornim
ne-prihvatanjem da je on možda (ipak) sam kriv za svoj neuspeh (da ne misliš da
u Williamsu imaju bolid sa daljinskim upravljanjem, pa su ga oni gurnuli na one
pneumatike u Monci :), bilo zbog svog (priznajem) miroljubivog karaktera, bilo
zbog nedostatka agilnosti, hrabrosti da nešto preduzme ... Uostalom, ako je sve
istina što mi (vi) ovde nagađamo, zar ne misliš da bi Hil odavno izašao sa tom
pričom u javnost? Ako su se oni poneli kao đubrad prema njemu (a jesu, to je
fakat), ne bi li ti hteo (pa čak i džentlmenski Hil ;) da im vratiš bar na
najprostiji mogući način?
Same špekulacije ne vode nigde. Jer možda će uskoro da se jave neki
sektaši :) i da kažu, kako ustvari Senin duh je ušao u Hilov bolid pa mu
pokvario kvačilo? Sve je moguće danas. :))
auto-moto.569mikeman,
> Pre nego sto pocnes sa ovakvim kvalifikacijama, treba da se informises
Izvinjavam se. Nisam gledao nista posle trke, jer sam bio odusevljen
rezultatom. Ipak, iako je Hill na ovoj trci imao problema (tj. iako
probleme koristi kao izgovor), on jednostavno nema opravdanja za mnoge
druge trke na kojima je vozio u najmanju ruku bezvoljno. Jednostavno
Hill uvek ima neki problem, ili ga neko spreci. Za sve ima izgovor...
Ona poruka je bila vodjena emocijama, ali ipak ima u njoj istine...
(prevashodno mislim na ono o srcu...)
auto-moto.570mikeman,
> Dalje,sledece godine,kada je sutnuo Prosta,Williams dovodi Sennu.
Koliko se ja secam, Prost i Senna su jedno vreme vozili za isti tim,
(valjda je Williams) kada je doslo do incidenta tako sto su se
"pokacili" na stazi.
Koliko me sluzi pamcenje, prost je vodio, ali je za trenutak izgubio
koncentraciju i izleteo sa staze. Nekako se snasao, ali je Senna
koji je bio 2 pristigao na mesto dogadjaja. Kada je Senna pokusao
da obidje Prosta ovaj je jednostavno preprecio put i obojica su
ispali!...
auto-moto.571vimm,
>> Koliko se ja secam, Prost i Senna su jedno vreme vozili za isti tim,
>> (valjda je Williams) kada je doslo do incidenta tako sto su se
>> "pokacili" na stazi.
Vozili su za Meklaren...
>> Koliko me sluzi pamcenje, prost je vodio, ali je za trenutak izgubio
>> koncentraciju i izleteo sa staze. Nekako se snasao, ali je Senna
Nije izleteo sa staze, samo je bio ispred Sene...
>> koji je bio 2 pristigao na mesto dogadjaja. Kada je Senna pokusao
>> da obidje Prosta ovaj je jednostavno preprecio put i obojica su
>> ispali!...
Pokušao je da ga obiđe sa unutrašnje strane, ali nije bio dovoljno ispred
Prosta da bi i prošao, Prost ga je zatvorio, došlo je do kontakta i
obojica su produžila pravo van staze. Prost je izašao iz bolida dok je
Sena nastavio preko trave, vratio se na stazu i posle odlaska u boks
radi zamene prednjeg stabilizatora - pobedio.
Kasnije je diskvalifikovan jer je skratio stazu, odnosno nije se vratio
na stazu na mestu gde je izleteo tako da je Prost osvojio titulu.
Vilnejev je 2 ili 3 puta u Monci 'ispravio' šikanu, ali kazne ovog puta
nije bilo.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.572djcorto,
> (valjda je Williams) kada je doslo do incidenta tako sto su se
McLaren, trka u Japanu, poslednja.
auto-moto.573djanjusevic,
Hil potpisao za Arrows aka Footwork aka TWR.
Ne zna se ko je nenormalnili, DH sto ode u ovakav tim ili TW sto dade
onolike pare.
auto-moto.574m.stevic,
HIl je postao clan AROWS tima :(!!!
Izjavo je da ocekuje '98 uspeh doticnog tima i da veruje u Tom Volkinsoa.
auto-moto.575miko,
++ Koliko se ja secam, Prost i Senna su jedno vreme vozili
++ za isti tim, (valjda je Williams) kada je doslo do
++ incidenta tako sto su se "pokacili" na stazi.
Prvi put se to desilo 1989 godine,kada su obojica vozili za
McLaren Hondu.Na pisti Suzuka u Japanu,inace pretposlednjoj
trci u sampionatu.Tada je Senna pokusao da obidje Prosta sa
unutrasnje strane,pred jednom krivinom i desilo se ... ono
sto se desilo,s'tim sto je Senna nastavio trku i pobedio,ali
ga je kasnije FISA diskvalifikovala.Epilog cele stvari je bila
Prostova titula.Kako je tada izmedju njih konacno "puklo",jedan
je morao biti iskasiran.Naravno,Dennis je ostavio Sennu,dok je
Prost presao u Ferrari.Sledece godine,potpuno identicna
scena.Opet se njih dvojica bore za titulu,s'tim sto Senna ima
prednost od devet bodova pred trku u Japanu (tada se za pobedu
dobijalo devet bodova).Kako je Senna imao vise pobeda,u slucaju
jednakog broja bodova,on bi osvojio sampionat.Anyway,Senna je
imao Pol Position,a Prost drugu startnu poziciju.Na prvoj krivini
su se sudarili...Sada je Prost pokusao Sennu da obidje,ali slika
od 1989 se ponovila.Kako je bila ostala jos samo jedna trka,Senna
je imao nedostiznu prednost i osvojio je titulu.Posle ovih incidenata
palo je mnogo teskih reci izmedju ove dvojice vozaca.Uglavnom je
Prost besneo,dok je Senna kulirao.Naravno,vise nikada nije moglo doci
u obzir da ova dvojica vozaca sednu u isti bolid.Zato je Prost,1994
ponovo bio sutnut,sada iz Williamsa,zbog Senne.
auto-moto.576miko,
++ ne-prihvatanjem da je on mozda (ipak) sam kriv za svoj
++ neuspeh (da ne mislis da u Williamsu imaju bolid sa
++ daljinskim upravljanjem, pa su ga oni gurnuli na one
++ pneumatike u Monci :), bilo zbog svog (priznajem)
++ miroljubivog karaktera, bilo
Verovatno ne idu tako daleko,ali da imaju "vezu" sa Damonom
koji taj bolid vozi,to stoji.E,pa,kada mu kazu da ide u box,a
potom,kada ovej vec krene da ulazi,jave da je nas,ljubi ga
majka,Villeneuve u istom,dolazi do sr*nja.Hill malo po malo
gubi,a Jacques dobija.Mislim,da ne navodim dalje...
++ pneumatike u Monci :), bilo zbog svog (priznajem)
++ miroljubivog karaktera, bilo zbog nedostatka agilnosti,
++ hrabrosti da nesto preduzme ... Uostalom, ako je sve
Sve su ovo i Prostove karakteristike,pa opet niko ne osporava
njegove kvalitete.A moglo bi se diskutovati o njegovim titulama...ako
ne o sve cetiri,ono bar o dve.
auto-moto.577miko,
++ Nije mi muka a i zasto bi mi bilo kad navijam za boljeg
++ vozaca. :)) Nego, jel' tebi Hil platio taj oglas koji si
++ napisao ili ti to onako volonterski? ;))
Problem je u tome sto niko od vas ne kaze da navija za
Schumachera,ali da ceni i Hilla.Sve se svodi na to da
je Sch. car,a Hill seljak.To,ipak,tako ne ide.Inace,da
sam napisao neke neistine,ili da sam preuvelicao neke
stvari,pa da i trazim da mi plati.Ovako,da napisem istinu
je moja gradjanska duznost ;))
auto-moto.578miko,
++ Ne zna se ko je nenormalnili, DH sto ode u ovakav tim ili
++ TW sto dade onolike pare.
Pa,dobro,ipak su u Footwork-u vozili jedan Aguri Suzuki,Micaele Alboreto,
Alex Caffi,Derek Warwick,Christian Fittipaldi ... Jes' da ove i prosle
godine nisu bas imali najsretnije vozace,ali izgleda da se sa dolaskom
Toma Wolkinshow-a stvari menjaju.Svaka mu cast!
Sada cemo videti koliko Damon stvarno vredi...
auto-moto.579tomislavr,
>++ ne-prihvatanjem da je on mozda (ipak) sam kriv za svoj
>++ neuspeh (da ne mislis da u Williamsu imaju bolid sa
> Verovatno ne idu tako daleko,ali da imaju "vezu" sa Damonom
> koji taj bolid vozi,to stoji.E,pa,kada mu kazu da ide u box,a
> potom,kada ovej vec krene da ulazi,jave da je nas,ljubi ga
> majka,Villeneuve u istom,dolazi do sr*nja.Hill malo po malo
> gubi,a Jacques dobija.Mislim,da ne navodim dalje...
Pa dobro, niko nije ni mislio na takve situacije, već na
Hilove greäke tokom voénje, kojih baä i nije malo. Na primer
ove godine u Monci, i dosta puta proäle godine. Hil već tri
godine u F1 ima najbolju opremu, i ne uspeva da se domogne
titule, üak mu i ove godine do zadnje trke titula nije
sigurna iako mu je glavni konkurent "rookie". Meni samo
nije jasno kako neko to ne uviöa, već je Hilu uvek neko
drugi kriv - Äumaher äto "pokvareno" vozi, Vilijams äto ga
zeza itd.
auto-moto.580tomislavr,
> Problem je u tome sto niko od vas ne kaze da navija za
> Schumachera,ali da ceni i Hilla.Sve se svodi na to da
Ja navijam za Äumahera, i mogu reći da me Hil uvek
prijatno iznenadi nekom izjavom ili potezon van staze,
i uopäte ga ne smatram seljakom. Meöutim, retko kad
me prijatno iznenadi na stazi, jer iako navijam za
Nemca, volim dobru trku pa makar i Hil bio "krivac"za
nju. Dobre trke je pravio Alezi, Hakkinen, Kultard i mnogi
drugi (da ih sad ne nabrajam) üak jednom i Panis.
Meöutim "Hilove" trke su vrlo blede... :(
auto-moto.581tomislavr,
Üitah pre neki dan na Internetu neki tekst, ili bolje reći
psiholoäku analizu Frenka Vilijamsa. Inaüe ceo tekst je
iniciran verovatno poslednjom odlukom da se Hil oslobodi
duénosti. Elem, poenta priüe je sledeća, i üini mi se da
je autor moéda pogodio metu.
Navodno Frenk Vilijams ne éeli da iko u timu Vilijams
ugrozi njegov autoritet kao äefa tima. Na Frenkovom
udaru prvo se naäao Mensel, koji je dobio ispisnicu u
trenutku kada je mogao osvojiti bar joä jednu äampionsku
titulu i time postati velika zvezda. Ali Frenk ne voli
druge zvezde u timu osim njega. Zatim Prost. Pred kraj
sezone u kojoj Prost osvaja titulu za Vilijams, Frenk
mu saopätava vest da će mu sledeće sezone "kolega" biti
Sena, znajući koliko se oni vole. Tu Prost napuäta
Vilijams i F1. Sena, na éalost, nije doéiveo da uzme
titulu, ali bi verovatno i on dobio äut kartu...
Elem, to se isto dogodilo i Hilu ove godine. Iako nije
osvojio titulu, on je itekako postao popularan. Naravno
to je Frenkovoj sujeti zasmetalo, i "ode kuća" ;). Dalje
on u tekstu kaée da je baä zbog toga i Adrian Njui
napustio Vilijams (üovek se iznervirao), i na radost nas
navijaüa Mercedesa preäao u isti :)
Pored toga vräio je neka poreöenja Frenkovih izjava
i onoga äto se stvarno desilo. Da ne bih duéio, pomenuću
dva najinteresantnija: Frenk je sredinom ove sezone
rekao da je Hil nezamenjiv i da nema govora o njegovom
odlasku iz Vilijamsa, itd. Zakljuüak je da Frenk upravo
govori _baä ono_ äto ne misli, te da izjava kako on
izuzetno ceni Äumahera, i voleo bi da ga vidi u Vilijamsu,
zapravo znaüi - Äumaher nikad neće voziti za Vilijams.
Nevezano za Frenka, u tekstu se moée proüitati dosta
interesantnih nagaöanja o budućnosti F1 posle odlaska
Renoa: poäev od toga da Frencen nije doveden zbog BMW-a,
jer BMW teoretski (tehniüki) ne moée da doöe pre
2000. godine, već zbog Mercedesa, jer je MB nezadovoljan
rezultatima u McLarenu (ako 97. McLaren ne bude u stanju
da pobedjuje Mercedes preti raskidom ugovora); zatim da
Flavio briatore juri Ferarijeve (!!!) motore za Beneton u
sezoni 98., Minardi juri Mugen-Hondu, Ligier Peugeot itd.
Zanima me äta vi mislite o onome o Frenku Vilijamsu.
Ako nije istinito, a to da li je zna samo jedan üovek,
sigurno je zanimljivo...
auto-moto.582tomislavr,
> Pa,dobro,ipak su u Footwork-u vozili jedan Aguri Suzuki
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Pa gde njega naöe :) Najbolji rezultat u karijeri treće
mesto. Jak vozaü... :) Ipak je malo verovatna Hilova
priüa da je uveren u uspeh Arrows tima 98. i da je zato
i potpisao. Pre će biti da je jedino TWR nudio 7 mil. $
pa bolje iäta nego niäta. Mislim da je ovo kraj Hilove
karijere...
Inaüe izgleda da će Arrows sledeće godine biti sa Jamahinim
motorima. Sa konja na magarca ;)
auto-moto.583vstan,
> Ja navijam za Äumahera, i mogu reći da me Hil uvek
Ubr, koji kodni raspored koristiš ?
auto-moto.584vstan,
> Zanima me äta vi mislite o onome o Frenku Vilijamsu.
Šta da se kaže - ili da on lično sedne za volan ili da gasi
firmu ?
Htedoh i da pitam, ali posle ove analize već i naslućujem
odgovor - da li je moguće da minira Hilovu titulu ?
Dakle šećer u gorivu i ostale suptilne radnje.
auto-moto.585junior,
> Zanima me šta vi mislite o onome o Frenku Vilijamsu.
Čuj, čovek je uspešan biznismen, a to se ne postaje bez par mutnih radnji.
Činjenica jeste, da on već 3-4 godine ima najjači tim u F1 i da je svih tih
godina (izuzevši prošlu) osvajao titule najboljih konstruktora. To pokazuje
da on _zna_ šta radi.
E sad, da li se nama to dopada ili ne .. ko to pita. Kad bi Hil barem imao
petlje da izađe u javnost sa nekom pričom, možda i potvrđenom od nekog
mehaničara .. i to ne samo u novine, jer bi se svelo na tračarenje, nego
(ako ga stvarno sabotiraju) da tuži Williams zbog 'ometanja u obavljanju
posla' ili nečeg sličnog. Pa kad bi olešio Franka za par miliončića, mislim
da bi dobio drugo mišljenje o Hillu ;))
PS. Da to radi svim vozačima je činjenica .. Mislim da je i Nelson Pike '87.
(ako se ne varam) doživeo sličnu sudbinu kao Hill.
auto-moto.586vitez.koja,
#=> Ubr, koji kodni raspored koristiš ?
Custom 2 :)
auto-moto.587tomislavr,
> Htedoh i da pitam, ali posle ove analize već i naslućujem
> odgovor - da li je moguće da minira Hilovu titulu ?
> Dakle šećer u gorivu i ostale suptilne radnje.
Pa, u svetlu onog teksta logičnije bi bilo da mu dopusti
da titulu i uzme, jer Vilnev ostaje u timu kao "zvezda".
Međitim tu je problem broja 1. Hil će keca preneti u
Footwork, a to se Frenku sigurno neće svideti...
E sad, opet pitanje :) Da li ova Frenkova opsesija znači
da je i Vilnevu 97. sezona zadnja, jer je on sada itekako
popularan u svetu, i prdstavlja opasnost po njegov
autoritet u timu?
auto-moto.588tomislavr,
> Čuj, čovek je uspešan biznismen, a to se ne postaje bez par mutnih
> radnji. Činjenica jeste, da on već 3-4 godine ima najjači tim u F1 i
> da je svih tih godina (izuzevši prošlu) osvajao titule najboljih
> konstruktora. To pokazuje da on _zna_ šta radi.
Ja mislim da veći doprinos u uspehu Vilijamsa kao tima imaju
Patrik Hed i Adrian Njui. Jer i u trenucima kad Vilijams i
nije imao najbolji motor (91.) oni su bili konkurentni
zahvaljujući odličnim šasijama. Ne kažem da Frenk nije zaslužan,
on ih je i doveo :), ali videćemo šta će biti sa Vilijamsom
bez Njuia. "Napolju" je većina ljudi sklona već sad da otpiše
Vilijams sa liste najboljih timova, i kažu da će njihova
konkurentnost trajati koliko izdrži stara šasija i Renoov
motor, a to neće još dugo :)
> E sad, da li se nama to dopada ili ne .. ko to pita. Kad bi Hil
> barem imao petlje da izađe u javnost sa nekom pričom, možda i
> potvrđenom od nekog mehaničara .. i to ne samo u novine, jer bi se
> svelo na tračarenje, nego
Pa ne verujem da je tu bilo nekog očiglednog poturanja klipova
u točkove Hilu, da bi on to mogao i da dokaže. Čak su cele
sezone najivači i kanadska javnost optuživale Heda da ne želi
da podesi setap na Vilnevovom bolidu kao na Hilovom. Ja mislim
da se tu ne radi o toj vrsti "zezanja", već o tome da i posle svih
tih godina Frenk 'ladno otpusti Hila iako ovaj postaje šampion i
donosi mu titulu u konstruktorima. Mogao je Hil da kaže da je
Frenk đubre, ali ničemu to ne bi vodilo. A da je u Vilijamsu
poremećeno "drugarstvo" ;), dokazuje i odlazak Njuia iako je
imao ugovor do 99. godine (inače Njui je dobar prijatelj Hila,
on ga je i doveo da bude test vozač u Vilijamsu, i kasnije
sugerisao Frenku da Hil bude drugi vozač sa Prostom).
auto-moto.589mikeman,
> Nije izleteo sa staze, samo je bio ispred Sene...
Jok, nego sta? Opala mu je koncentracija, pa je dospeo na travu,
zatim se ocesao o zid, a onda se nekako vratio na stazu tacno u
onom trenutku kad je naiso Senna.... I desilo se sta se desilo...
Bezveze... Ipak, ja bi se vratio u ona vremena da ponovo gledam
pomenutu trku umesto ovih "danasnjih" trka koje su po licnom
misljenju poprilicno bezveze. Tad je bar bilo uzbudljivo.
auto-moto.590mikeman,
> Prost besneo,dok je Senna kulirao.Naravno,vise nikada nije moglo doci
> u obzir da ova dvojica vozaca sednu u isti bolid.Zato je Prost,1994
> ponovo bio sutnut,sada iz Williamsa,zbog Senne.
Pa naravno, znaju ljudi ko je bolji! Senna ruleZ!
auto-moto.591junior,
> da je i Vilnevu 97. sezona zadnja, jer je on sada itekako
> popularan u svetu, i prdstavlja opasnost po njegov
> autoritet u timu?
;) Da ne preterujemo. Niti je Vilnev zvezda, niti će sledeće godine biti prvak,
niti taj ćelavi mladac može da ugrozi Franka na bilo koji način. Dečko ima još
toliko da uči o Formuli .. tek za 2-3 godine možemo da očekujemo njegov punu
snagu (kad nauči da vozi stabilno, da zakoči kad treba, kad nauči da vozi po
kiši etc. :)
auto-moto.592vimm,
>> Jok, nego sta? Opala mu je koncentracija, pa je dospeo na travu,
>> zatim se ocesao o zid, a onda se nekako vratio na stazu tacno u
>> onom trenutku kad je naiso Senna.... I desilo se sta se desilo...
Za početak smiri se malo. Nema razloga da razgovaraš ovakvim tonom.
Na žalost, nisi u pravu. Ovo što opisuješ je tačno ono što se desilo
između Šumahera i Hila, a ne između Prosta i Sene. Ako nemaš video
traku pročešljaj malo po odgovarajućim časopisima iz tog perioda.
Pozdrav Vladimir
auto-moto.593giovanni,
Ę? Problem je u tome sto niko od vas ne kaze da navija za
Ę? Schumachera,ali da ceni i Hilla.Sve se svodi na to da
Ę? je Sch. car,a Hill seljak.To,ipak,tako ne ide.Inace,da
Kod mene je situacija malko specifična pošto sam ja vezan za tim a ne za
vozača. Znači, ja sam klupski opredeljen i navijam za one vozače koji voze
za Ferrari. E sad, imam i neke vozače koji su mi simpatični i koje cenim i
ima onih koje bih voleo da vidim u Ferrariju. A imam i svoj rezervni tim
za koga navijam (Jordan-Peugeot). Problem je u tome što ja zaista mislim
da je Šumaher trenutno najbolji vozač (to misli i dosta drugih ljubitelja
F1) ali stvarno ne cenim Hila kao vozača i kada bih rekao da ga cenim samo
bih lagao a to ne želim da radim. Cenim Vilneva (i voziće on jednog dana u
Ferrariju :)), Bergera, Alezija i još neke vozače ali neke ne podnosim jer
voze sporo, prave glupe greške i ne zaslužuju da se nađu u bolidu F1.
auto-moto.594miko,
++ Hil vec tri godine u F1 ima najbolju opremu, i ne uspeva da se
++ domogne titule
Da,ali Hill za te tri godine NIKADA nije imao takvu podrsku svog
tima,kakvu je imao Schumacher.Ovaj je u Benettonu bio sve i svja,dok
je Hill morao i Prostu i Senni da drzi skute,a posle toga
je malo napredovao,pa je bio ravnopravan sa Coulthardom.Ove godine,opet
se ponavlja stara pesma...Hill bi vec sto puta bio sampion,da je imao
onakve uslove kao Schumacher.On je imao bolji bolid,ali to je dzabe
ako je Williamsu svejedno koji ce vozac da mu pobedi,ako ima nesposobne
mehanicare i taktiku koja se tim imenom ne moze ni nazvati.Zato su prosle
godine ostali bez obe titule.Da ne pricam o tome,kako su svake godine
kruzile glasine kako ce Hill da leti jer ne zasluzuje mesto prvog
vozaca u Williamsu.Sada je,konacno,to postalo stvarnost...Sve u svemu
na njega se stalno vrsi ogroman psiholoski pritisak,a kao posledica
svega toga je Hillova fobija od titule. Neki ce odma reci da je veliki
vozac najbolji kada mu je najteze,a ja bih ih podsetio na pretproslu
godinu i trku u Adelaidi. Tada je ceo svet video ko je ko...
++ Pa dobro, niko nije ni mislio na takve situacije, vec na
++ Hilove greske tokom voznje, kojih bas i nije malo. Na
++ primer ove godine u Monci, i dosta puta prosle godine.
Pa,koliko se secam,Monca mu je bila jedina veca greska ove godine,a
prosle su ga timska taktika i kvarovi na bolidu pokopali.Pa,ako se
prisetis Montreala ... Doslo mi je da placem,njega su tada obilazili
i Alesi i Hakkinen i Barrichello i da se ovaj nije posle toga polako
parkirao pored staze,presao bi ga i,cini mi se,Salo koji je smanjio
razliku sa petnaest na dve-tri sekunde.Priznaces da Hill,ipak,nije
toliko los ... Taj njegov bolid je uvek na papiru bio najbolji,ali
u stvarnosti nije bio ni desetina onoga kakvog su ga svi zamisljali.
auto-moto.595mikeman,
> i uopäte ga ne smatram seljakom. Meöutim, retko kad
A koji je ovo kodni raspored? Stvarno je necitljivo. ;)
> Nemca, volim dobru trku pa makar i Hil bio "krivac"za
> nju. Dobre trke je pravio Alezi, Hakkinen, Kultard i mnogi
> drugi (da ih sad ne nabrajam) üak jednom i Panis.
> Meöutim "Hilove" trke su vrlo blede... :(
Da ne ispadne da sumim ;)) Pa upravo o tome sam i govorio! Hill
jednostavno deluje kao da nema hrabrosti, kod njega nema one zelje
(ili mi se bar tako cini) za pobedom, nema "zara"... Zato mi se on
prvenstveno i ne svidja. Sennu sam sojevremeno gledao i svaka njegova
trka je bila "na ivici". Bio je ili prvi ili nije imao plasman zbog
izletanja. Ali taj covek se neverovatnom zestinom borio za svaku trku
i to je unosilo draz u formulu...
auto-moto.596mikeman,
> Htedoh i da pitam, ali posle ove analize vec i naslucujem
> odgovor - da li je moguce da minira Hilovu titulu ?
> Dakle secer u gorivu i ostale suptilne radnje.
I pored svega ipak mislim da je ova titula definitivnio u Hillovim
rukama. Cak i da se desi da "otkaze" bolid, tu su Sumaher, Alesi,
Hakinen i drugi koji se nece tek tako predati!
Cisto bi se zapanjio kad bi Hill ispustio ovu titulu (ne kazem da ne
bi voleo, ali...)
auto-moto.597mikeman,
> Za pocetak smiri se malo. Nema razloga da razgovaras ovakvim tonom.
U redu :) ali samo mi reci na osnovu cega si odredio ton?
Je sam veoma miran ;) ali me mrzi da stavljam smajlije, pa mozda
zbog toga...
> Na zalost, nisi u pravu. Ovo sto opisujes je tacno ono sto se desilo
> izmedu Sumahera i Hila, a ne izmedu Prosta i Sene. Ako nemas video
> traku procesljaj malo po odgovarajucim casopisima iz tog perioda.
Za kraj, na srecu, ima ko da me ispravi. Eto, uvukla se greska.
Nema veze. Ako bi mogo samo jos da mi kazes ko je bio 1. a ko 2.
kad se desio incident (ovaj sa HIllom i Sumijem)...
auto-moto.599obren,
Nekoliko magazina izvestilo je da postoje planovi za dva nezavisna filma
o životu Airtona Sene. Kompanija "Warner Brothers" ima projekat u kome
bi trebalo da učestvuju Antonio Banderas sa Ridli Skotom (Blade Runner)
u ulozi režisera ili saradnika na ovom poslu.
Drugi projekat priprema kompanija "New Line Cinema" a kao režiser trebalo
bi da bude angažovan Reni Harlin (Cliffhanger). Harlinov scenarista ima
prava na nekoliko knjiga o Seni, uključujući: Senna: "The Hard Edge of
Genius", "The Legend Grows", "The Second Comming" i "Adriane... My Life
With Ayrton".
Mnogi poznavaoci Formule 1 boje se romansiranja i komercijalizacije
života legendarnog vozača za potrebe filma. Sudeći po sledećoj najavi za
filmove, izgleda da imaju i zašto: "Both projects are about Brazilian
race car driver Ayrton Senna, who was killed in an accident at the 1994
Monte Carlo Grand Prix."
^^^^^^^^^^^
:(
auto-moto.600obren,
Patrik Fore, sportski direktor Renault-Sporta, izjavio je da mu žao što
Dejmon Hill napušta Reno nakon sledeće trke. On je to prokomentarisao
na sledeći način:
"Nije tajna da smo mi više voleli da Dejmon vozi sa Wiliams-Renault u
našoj poslednjoj sezoni. Mi iz Renoa imamo ogromno poverejne u njega,
i ako bih imao da mu kažem samo jednu stvar pred sledeću trku, to bi
bilo: Žao mi je što nas napuštaš i želim ti puno sreće!"
Rothmans, glavni sponzor Vilijamsa, takođe je izjavio da oni nisu zadovoljni
zbog Hilovog odlaska kao i Reno. Kruže glasine da iz ovog razloga Rotmans
verovatno neće produžavati svoje sponzorstvo sa Vilijamsom, pošto će Hil
između ostalog verovatno odneti sa sobom i toliko željeni broj 1.
auto-moto.601obren,
Vilijams tim garantuje da će poslednja bitka u Suzuci za svetski
šampionat u Formuli 1 između Žaka Vilneva i Dejmona Hila biti fer.
Tim će u Japan poneti dva rezervna bolida umesto uobičajenog jednog,
što će tim koštati dodatnih 20.000 funti sterlinga. Ovo treba da
odagna špekulacije da Vilijams namerno namešta Hilu tehničke probleme
na bolidu kako bi broj 1 ostao u timu u sledeće sezone.
auto-moto.602obren,
Honda konstruiše novi V10
Atlas F1 News izveštava da Honda intenzivno radi na konstrukciji novog
V10 motora, nezavisno od Mugena sa kojim je blisko povezana a čiji motori
trenutno pokreću bolide Ližijea (Ligier).
Takođe, saznaje se da Beneton intenzivno pregovara sa Hondom oko angažmana
za 1998. sezonu, kada ovaj čuveni Japanski proizvođač proslavlja 50 godina
postojanja.
auto-moto.603obren,
U Suzuki su japanski proizvođač pneumatika, firma Bridgestone, i tim
Arrows za koga sledeće godine vozi Dejmon Hil, potpisali ugovor koji će
prekinuti Goodyear-ov monopol na snabdevanje pneumaticima u Formuli 1.
Bridžstoun je ušao u Formuli 1 godinu dana ranije nego što je planirao
nakon što su intenzivni testovi u Suzuki u Silverstonu pokazali izuzetne
performanse ovih pneumatika. Portparol Bridžstouna izjavio je će ova
kompanija sledeće sezone snabdevati gumama dva ili tri tima.
auto-moto.604lexus,
=> bi trebalo da učestvuju Antonio Banderas sa Ridli Skotom (Blade
=> Runner)
Ako Banderas bude glumio Sennu baciću bombu na Warner Bross.
Mada, ko zna... Možda film i ne bude tako loš kao što izgleda
da će biti.
auto-moto.605djcorto,
> Mada, ko zna... Mozda film i ne bude tako los kao sto izgleda
> da ce biti.
Sigurno ce biti gori.
Jedini dobar film koji je snimljen o auto trkama je "24 casa Le
Mana". Steve Mc Queen, koji je i vozio, snimano na trci .... eh
:(
Nemoj da neko pomene Days of Thunder !!!!!!
auto-moto.606obren,
Suzuka, Japan - 12. Oktobar 1996. rezultati kvalifikacija:
1. Villeneuve 1:39.310
2. Schumacher 1:40.071
3. Hakkinen 1:40.458
4. Hill 1:40.574
5. Irvine 1:41.005
6. Berger 1:41.033
7. Coulthard
8. Alesi
9. Panis
itd.
auto-moto.607obren,
Pedro Diniz je izgleda potpisao za TWR (Arrows) i biće dogodine partner
Dejmona Hila! :) Milioni čine čuda... ;)
auto-moto.608schef,
Za slučaj da niko nije javio ;) za sutrašnju trku u Japanu pol poziciju je
osvojio Žak Vilnev, a sa druge startuje Hill. Ostali nisu bitni. ;)
Dakle biće vrlo zanimljiva trka (ne znam za vas, ali ja ću da gledam snimak
u 8:00 na K9 ;) pogotovo ako Hill startuje loše po običaju. ;>
auto-moto.609rkovacevic,
Treći kanal u nedelju u 5.55 direktno prenosi trku iz Japana ...
auto-moto.610obren,
Moram priznati da širim dezinformacije... :) Elem, pratio sam "Live coverage"
kvalifikacija preko Interneta, ali sam oko 7.05 prekinuo praćenje zaključivši
da je vreme isteklo i tako sam preneo neažuran poredak. Međutim, Herbert se
slupao na samom početku tako da je bilo zaustavljeno vreme i kasnije
produženo što ja nisam uzeo u obzir... Dakle, pravi poredak je sledeći:
1 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 38.909s
2 D.Hill Williams 1m 39.370s
3 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 40.071s
4 G.Berger Benetton 1m 40.364s
5 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 40.458s
6 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 41.005s
7 H.Frentzen Sauber 1m 41.277s
8 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 41.384s
9 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 41.562s
10 M.Brundle Jordan 1m 41.600s
11 R.Barrichello Jordan 1m 41.919s
12 O.Panis Ligier 1m 42.206s
13 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 42.658s
14 U.Katayama Tyrrell 1m 42.711s
15 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 42.840s
16 P.Diniz Ligier 1m 43.196s
17 J.Verstappen Footwork 1m 43.383s
18 P.Lamy Minardi 1m 44.874s
19 R.Rosset Footwork 1m 45.412s
---- 107% ---- 1m 45.832s
20 G.Lavaggi Minardi 1m 46.795s
Izvinjavam se na grešci... :)
auto-moto.611djcorto,
Prenos iz Suzuke na 3K u 05:55 sutra
auto-moto.612obren,
Vilnev: "Ovo je vrlo teška staza za preticanje i ako uspem da održim
prvu poziciju nakon starta to će biti jako dobro. Staza je bila vrlo
klizava ali ceo tim je uradio odličan posao danas tako da je bolid bio
vrlo brz."
Hil: "Uradio sam baš ono što sam i planirao, a to je da budem u prvom
startnom redu. Sve se odvija kako sam zamislio ovih dana i mislim da
imam odličnu šansu da obiđem Žaka u prvoj krivini nakon starta (zbog
konfiguracije staze)."
Hil o svojoj taktici u trci: "Najbolji odbrana je čvrst napad, i sutra
očekujem zaista dobru trku..."
Šumaher: "Mislim da je ovo fer raspored na startu. Lično sam morao da
odustanem u svom zadnjem pokušaju da popravim poziciju zbog toga što sam
osetio probleme sa motorom. Ipak, mislim da se ionako ne bih previše
popravio jer je prolazno vreme bilo svega neku desetinku bolje. Bez
obzira na sve, bolid je bio izuzetno dobar i mislim da znam kako da
popravim performanse za sutrašnju trku. Moj jedini cilj je kao i uvek,
najviši plasman i ništa drugo me ne interesuje."
auto-moto.613mixi,
Kao sto se vidjelo. Zasluzeno i sampionski,
sa velikom prednoscu u bodovima...
1. Damon Hill
auto-moto.614m.stevic,
HILL je svetski prvak!!!! Odlicna voznja i odlican zavrsetak :)))))!!
Steta sto je Vilnevu izleteo tocak pa nije zavrsio trku!
auto-moto.615mila,
Malo mi je žao zbog Vilneva, ali mi je jako drago što je Hil
konačno (zasluženo) dobio titulu!!! Bojim se da nije namešteno ono
otpadanje točka, u kom slučaju bi mi Hil i (pretpostavljam da je on
umešan) Vokinšou postali baš antipatični.
Inače, sve čestitke Hilu za uspeh.
BTW, Beograđani, očekujemo izveštaj sa "Ušća", inače poslednje
ovogodišnje trke u našem šampionatu, koja se vozi danas.....
auto-moto.616miko,
DAMON HILL ... KONACNO!!!
NADAM SE DA CEMO SLAVITI I DOGODINE :))))
auto-moto.617space.ace,
Ne mogu da vam opišem koliko sam srećan i zadovoljan što je Damon Hill
osvojio tutulu Šampiona 1996. godine. Sav njegov trud i rad mogao je da
propadne zbog nekih mutnih radnji u njegovom timu, ali ipak na samom
kraju sve je prošlo onako kako je trebalo da prođe mnogo ranije, Damon
Hill je pokazao zube, pokazao šta ume i kako ume da vozi. Zasluženo je
osvojio šampionat.
Takođe, oduševilo me i ponašanje bivšeg (da, već bivšeg) Šampiona Schumacher-a
koji je ipak pokazao da i on može da bude dobar.
Trka je bila odlična, napeta i uzbudljiva, pogotovu momenat kada je Hill imao
kontakt sa Bergerom(u stvari, da li je uopšte bilo kontakta? Možda je Berger
udario u izbočinu na ivici šikane?), koja me je za trenutak zaprepastila.
Svakakve misli su mi padale na pamet, ali sve je prošlo super.
Na kraju, kada je Hill prošao kroz cilj i "uzeo" checkers flag, bio sam, ako
ne najsrećniji, onda drugi najsrećniji čovek na celom svetu!!!
auto-moto.618senna,
Na kraju, kada je Hill prosao kroz cilj i "uzeo" checkers flag,
------
Checkers, kazesh ;).
auto-moto.619lexus,
=> Na kraju, kada je Hill prošao kroz cilj i "uzeo" checkers flag, bio
=> sam, ako
Chequered flag :)
Inače zaslužena pobeda Hilla, samo se pitam da li je slučajan način
na koji je Villeneuve završio trku ;) To mora da je bila neka
rezervna varijanta koju je Damon naučio od Frank Williamsa ;)
auto-moto.620vstan,
> HILL je svetski prvak!!!! Odlicna voznja i odlican zavrsetak
> :)))))!! Steta sto je Vilnevu izleteo tocak pa nije zavrsio
> trku!
Za nas koji nismo gledali može li detaljan opis trke ?
auto-moto.621obren,
> HILL je svetski prvak!!!! Odlicna voznja i odlican zavrsetak
Baš tako! :) Hil je ispunio oba svoja obećanja - da će preteći Žaka pre
prve krivine i da će ići na pobedu. Zaista je osvojio ovogodišnju titulu
šampiona na najbolji mogući način. Kraj je bio izuzetno emotivan,naročito
kad Dejmon nije hteo da skine kacigu da se ne bi videlo kako plače :)
Čak se moglo čuti i kada mu je neko iz obližnje publike rekao "Don't cry
Damon..."
Odeskao sam se kad je došlo do kontakta između Bergera i Hila, ali na
sreću sve je ispalo dobro.
> Steta sto je Vilnevu izleteo tocak pa nije zavrsio trku!
Shit happens... Sreća da je sve prošlo u redu.
Zarši se i ova sezona. :) Sad dolaze statistike, analize, prognoze
za dogodine... Dakle, ko će biti šampion 1997? :)
P.S. Ko je svetski šampion? Dejmon, Dejmon! Ko je svetski šampion,
hej, Dejmon, leee... ;)
auto-moto.622obren,
> Bojim se da nije namešteno ono otpadanje točka, u kom slučaju bi mi Hil
> i (pretpostavljam da je on umešan) Vokinšou postali baš antipatični.
Ma daj... Ajde da su Hila sjebali, Što bi Vilneva sabotirali kad treba da
vozi i dogodine, a ionako je bio granični slučaj teoretske šanse da se uzme
titula. Druga stvar je što se takve stvari (odustajanje) mogu izvesti na
mnogo suptilniji način. Frenk Vilijams bi bio baš lud ako bi se posle
Seninog slučaja tako (otpadanje točka) igrao sa nečijim životom.
Zanimljivo je da su se u prošloj trci GT šampionata desila čak tri slučaja
otpadanja točka u tri različita tima! Jednostavno, šrafiti točak u onako
kratom vremenu nosi izvestan rizik, a ni šrafovi izgleda nisu kao što su
nekad bili. ;) Svakako će biti izveštaja povodom ovog slučaja, pe će već
neko preneti na Sezam.
auto-moto.623mila,
> u 8:00 na K9 ;) pogotovo ako Hill startuje loše po običaju. ;>
Proobičajio Hill ;>>>>>
auto-moto.624djcorto,
> Za nas koji nismo gledali moze li detaljan opis trke ?
Ja snimio, sa malo snega, ali gledivo.
auto-moto.625mila,
> otpadanja točka u tri različita tima! Jednostavno, šrafiti točak u onako
> kratom vremenu nosi izvestan rizik, a ni šrafovi izgleda nisu kao što su
Slažem se da je to rizik, ali ako si pažljivo pratio moje diskusije,
nisam pomenuo mogućnost da Frenk namesti igru Vilnevu, već Tom Vokinšo,
koji je već izbrojao livu za Hila (TRV), pa pretpostavka da je potplatio
nekog da dobije broj 1 može da se održi :(. Voleo bih da nije tako... :)
auto-moto.626mila,
Dakle, Beograđani? Šta se zbivalo na "Ušću"? Pošto pivo i pečurke
u "Asteriksu"? Gde ste bre?
auto-moto.627ljubisha,
> => Na kraju, kada je Hill prošao kroz cilj i "uzeo" checkers flag, bio
> => sam, ako
>
> Chequered flag :)
Vidi se da čovek nije imao Spectrum. :)
auto-moto.628lexus,
=> Vidi se da čovek nije imao Spectrum. :)
Naravno :)
Igra je bolja i od GP2 ;)
auto-moto.629nenad,
> Baš tako! :) Hil je ispunio oba svoja obećanja - da će preteći Žaka pre
> prve krivine i da će ići na pobedu.
Žaka je prestiglo nekoliko vozača, na samom početku trke se
kretao vidno sporije od ostalih. Kao da je imao nekih problema.
> Odeskao sam se kad je došlo do kontakta između Bergera i Hila, ali na
> sreću sve je ispalo dobro.
Šta se dešavalo sa Bergerom, prvo je napao Hila, posle na istom
mestu izbacio Irvajna iz trke, išao 4-5 puta u boks...? Baš se
bio primio na ovu trku. ;)
auto-moto.630space.ace,
>> Chequered flag :)
U trenutku velikog uzbuđenja nisam ponovo pročitao poruku da bih video da li
se potkrala neka greška, zato ste vidim vi primetili.
No, to nije važno, jedino što je važno je da je HILL šampion, i to niko ne
sme da porekne...
auto-moto.631obren,
> Žaka je prestiglo nekoliko vozača, na samom početku trke se
> kretao vidno sporije od ostalih. Kao da je imao nekih problema.
Pa i nije on bio tako spor, ako se izuzme katastrofalno loš start.
Mislim da Vilnev ima najbrži krug na ovoj trci...
> Šta se dešavalo sa Bergerom, prvo je napao Hila, posle na istom
> mestu izbacio Irvajna iz trke, išao 4-5 puta u boks...? Baš se
> bio primio na ovu trku. ;)
Dešavalo se da mu je Flavio rekao da Beneton mora da bude bolji od
Ferarija, a da on kako zna i ume to obezbedi ;) Šak je probao da
izbije na prvo mesto napavši Hila, ali na kraju je Ferari zajvaljujući
Šumaheru ipak izbio na drugo mesto u kategoriji konstruktora.
auto-moto.632obren,
Titula svetskog šampiona je konačno u rukama Dejmon Hila. Osvojio ju je u
velikom stilu pobedivši u Suzuki i vodivši od početka do kraja trke. Hil
čak nije morao ni da obilazi Vilneva kao što je najavio pred trku, pošto
je ovaj slabo startovao i pao nekoliko mesta sa početne pol-pozicije.
Ipak, Vilnev je na trci pokazao, kao što je to činio i tokom cele sezone,
da je momak koji na svakoj trci daje sve od sebe i zaista je šteta što je
morao da odustane zbog tehničkih problema.
Zabeleške za sećanje:
- Kultardu se na samom startu ugasio motor, što je dovelo do ponovljenog
kruga za zagrevanje i odloženog starta, dok je on morao da startuje sa
začelja.
- Alezi se okrenuo na stazi u prvom krugu i udario u zaštitne pneumatike
pored staze ali je izašao nepovređen.
- Berger je oštetio svoj prednji stabilizator kada je pokušao da pretekne
Hila u trećem krugu. Njemu je vrh bolida kasnije zamenjen u rekordnih
9.8 sekundi! (ova operacija obično traje i do 20-30 sekundi).
- Diniz je napravio spin u 13 krugu što je prokomentarisao na sledeći
način: "Nestrpljivo očekujem sledeću sezonu! Na ovoj trci me nije
htela sreća, ali biće bolje."
- Mika Salo je odustao u boksu nakon problema sa motorom u 20. krugu. On
je svoje odustajanje ovako prokomentarisao: "Imali smo problema ove
godine sa Jamahinim motorima. Uvek sam samo čekao kada će da produvaju."
- Rikardo Roset i Ukio Katajama dobili su tzv. "stani-kreni" kaznu zbog
blokiranja bržih vozača.
- Katajama je uništio svoj prednji stabilizator u kontaktu sa Verštapenom.
- Vilnev je video svoje šampionske ambicije kako proleću pored njega u
vidu zadnjeg-desnog točka u 36. krugu. On je to prokomentarisao ovako:
"Bilo je problema tehničke prirode za vreme trke. Učinilo mi se da je
točak odleteo pravo u publiku, ali na sreću zaustavio se kod ograde."
- Katajama je takođe odustao zbog tehničjih problema u 37. krugu
- Berger je obišao Irvajna u Kazino šikani u 39. krugu ali je pri tome
došlo do kontakta i Irvajn je odustao.
auto-moto.633obren,
Izjave nakon trke:
Dejmon Hil: "Neverovatno je, ne mogu da nađem reči kojima bih opisao kako
se osećam. Kada su mi javili da je Žak odustao to me je malo šokiralo.
Šta da kažem, hteo sam da osvojim ovu trku za Williams. Posvežujem ovu
pobedu celom timu, ali ako ne zamerate titulu bih zadržao za sebe."
Hil o incidentu sa Bergerom: "Čuo sam zvuk motora iz sebe, a kada sam
pogledao u retrovizor on je već bio daleko iza".
Adrian Njui: "Voditi trku apsolutno od početka do kraja... Ne može se
zamisliti veći uspeh od toga!"
Šumaher: "Rekao bih da je sve išlo kako treba, naročito strategija trke.
Što se mog udela tiče, ja sam zaista sve pokušao da prestignem Dejmona
Hila. Računao sam na pit-stopove i kod drugog zaustavljanja sam skoro
i uspeo da preuzmem prvu poziciju. Dejmon je sjajno vozio, zaslužio je
titulu i ja mu čestitam na tome. Dugo je čekao na ovo i nije se predao,
pobedivši na osam trka ove sezone, što ne ostavlja ni trag sumnje u njegove
kvalitete. Što se tiče Ferarija mi smo postigli svoj cilj: drugo mesto
u kategoriji konstruktora i treće mesto za mene u kategoriji vozala.
Kada tome dodate tri pobede i četiri pol-pozicije, vidan je napredak
u odnosu na prošlu sezonu. Zaista je ovo korak napred za šta je zaslužan
ceo tim, i sada treba ići još dalje.
Hakinen: "Postoji mnogo sjajnih staza u svetu Formule 1, ali Suzuka je
ubedljivo najbolja. Ko god da je dizajnirao ovu stazu, trebalo bi da
redizajnira sve ostale F1 piste."
auto-moto.634obren,
I na kraju, konačni poredak na kraju 1996. sezone:
Drivers championship Constructors championship
1. Hill 97 1. Williams-Renault 175
2. Villeneuve 78 2. Ferrari 70
3. Schumacher 59 3. Benetton-Renault 68
4. Alesi 47 4. McLaren-Mercedes 49
5. Hakkinen 31 5. Jordan-Peugeot 22
6. Berger 21 6. Ligier-Mugen-Honda 15
7. Coulthard 18 7. Sauber-Ford 11
8. Barrichello 14 8. Tyrrell-Yamaha 5
9. Panis 13 9. TWR 1
10. Irvine 11
11. Brundle 8
12. Frentzen 7
13. Salo 5
14. Herbert 4
15. Diniz 2
16. Verstappen 1
auto-moto.635ljubisha,
> Žaka je prestiglo nekoliko vozača, na samom početku trke se
> kretao vidno sporije od ostalih. Kao da je imao nekih problema.
U prvoj krivini je bio čak osmi ali je po izletanju Alezija dospeo
na šesto.
> Šta se dešavalo sa Bergerom, prvo je napao Hila, posle na istom
> mestu izbacio Irvajna iz trke, išao 4-5 puta u boks...? Baš se
> bio primio na ovu trku. ;)
I posle svega toga ipak završio trku na 4. mestu. :)
auto-moto.636ljubisha,
> Što se mog udela tiče, ja sam zaista sve pokušao da prestignem Dejmona
> Hila. Računao sam na pit-stopove i kod drugog zaustavljanja sam skoro
> i uspeo da preuzmem prvu poziciju.
I zamalo da uspe jer je Hil stajao dve sekunde duže u boksu čekajući
da dva bolida (da, kola, šta ste vi pomislili :)) prođu pored njega. Ta-
čnije, sve je bilo gotovo za 9.5 a on je krenuo na 11.5 sekundi.
auto-moto.637obren,
Izgleda da je Formula 1 ponovo aktuelna u Japanu. Nakon Hondinih uspeha
u Indikaru koji su znatno smanjili interesovanje sa F1, Japanski vozači
i sponzori opet se vraćaju Formuli.
Satoru Nakadžima, prvi japanski vozač koji je imao stalni angažman u
Formuli 1, poznat i kao test vozač McLaren-Honda tima, najavio je
za vreme vikenda u Suzuki da će biti finanskijski partner Tirela
u sezoni 1997. Zanimljivo je da je Nakadžima vozio za Tirel 1990/91.
Istovremeno je pomenuto da bi Toranosuke Takagi, trenutno četvrti u
Formuli Nipon, mogao voziti za Tirrell sledeće godine.
Još jedan Japanac je u igri oko Formule 1. Naime vozač Ližijea koji će
zameniti Pedra Diniza biće Šinđi Nakano. Hirotoši Honda, predsednik
Mugena, nagovestio je još ranije svoju želju da Nakano vozi za Ližije.
auto-moto.638obren,
Bivši Svetski Šampion Niki Lauda, sada kontraverzni savetnik u Ferariju,
ne misli pozitivno o Hilovoj tituli i o drugim timovima. Zabeležena je
njegova izjava: "On (Hil) je jasno pokazao da je slab jer mu je sa
najboljim bolidom toliko trebalo da postane Svetski Šampion. Ferari je
imao novi bolid, novi motor i novog vozača. Meklaren je sa svoje strane
pokazao da nije uopšte toliko jak koliko se očekivalo. Beneton nije
mogao da zadrži poziciju koju je imao bez Šumahera i uopšte šampionat
je bio vrlo dosadan."
auto-moto.639obren,
Stjuart Grand-Prix tim potpisao je ugovor sa Rubensom Baričelom koji će
biti njihov drugi vozač sledeće godine. Prvi vozač je bivši Meklarenov
test pilot Jan Magnusen koji je već debitovao u Formuli 1 prošle godine.
Baričelo je vozio za Džordan pežo ove godine i već je jasno stavio do
znanja da se više ne oseća lepo u Džordanu.
auto-moto.640djcorto,
> Igra je bolja i od GP2 ;)
A koja nije ... ;)
auto-moto.641tomislavr,
Najdžel Mensel, nekadašnji Svetski Šampion, razmišlja o povratku u
Formulu 1 u bliskoj budućnosti ako dobije odgovarajuću ponudu.
Mensel je u izjavi za BBC rekao da mu je Hilova titula dala podstrek da
pokuša juriš da još jednu titulu. On je uz to dadao: "Ići na još jednu
titulu ili se bar boriti za nju je veoma interesantno. Moja trenutna
preokupacija je Golf, ali strast za trkama još uvek teče mojim venama
i moje vreme još nije prošlo."
Tim u koji bi se Mensel vratio bio bi Džordan-Pežo gde bi vozio zajedno
sa Ralfom Šumaherom, uz uslov da mu Edi Džordan plati 9 miliona dolara
koliko Britanac traži za svoje usluge.
auto-moto.642tomislavr,
"World Motor Sport Council" sastao se da bi ispitao predloge za nove
propise koji su pristigli od raznih auto-federacija. Sledeće odluke su
donete i stupiće na snagu od sledeće sezone:
- Svaki bolid mora biti opremljen nekom vrstom "crne kutije" koju će
obezbeđivati FIA.
- Svi proizvođači pneumatika mogu imati u ponudi dve vrste guma za "suvo"
za svaku trku (prethodno samo jednu vrstu). Ovo znači da svakom vozaču
sleduje devet kompleta pneumatika za razliku za nekadašnjih sedam, koliko
će sada biti raspoloživo za trke po kiši. Sa druge strane, od 28 kompleta
pneumatika koji su predviđeni za kvalifikacije, zagrevanje i trku, FIA
će na slučajan način odabrati 4 kompleta koje će vozač smeti da koristi
za same kvalifikacije. Vozač će takođe morati unapred da se izjasni koje
gume će da koriste za kvalifikacije, zagrevanje i trku. (Ovo znači da će
odluka o pneumaticima morati da se donosi na osnovu rezultata na slobodnim
treninzima, i da neće moći da se promeni izbor ako se vidi da je neki
drugi tim postigao bolje rezultate sa drugom vrstom pneumatika!)
- Uvedeno je i nekoliko novih pravila kod testiranja: Testiranje je
zabranjeno na stazama koje nisu predviđene za trke Formule 1 ali i na
stazama Formule 1 koje nisu u Evropi sem ako se na njima zvanično ne
organizuju testiranja pod komercijalnim pokroviteljstvom vlasnika staze.
- Takođe, testiranje je zabranjeno na svim stazama: u toku sedmice koja
prethodi trci, osim za "Shakedown" testove u maksimalnoj dužini od 50km
i nakon kraja šampionata pa do 1. decembra.
- Rukovodstvo staze u Imoli (Italija) je predstavilo svoj plan sprečavanja
"invazije" publike na stazu tokom finiša trke, što je prihvaćeno.
auto-moto.643tomislavr,
Ralf Šumaher, koji će voziti za Džordan Pežo tip sledeće godine, osvojio
je titulu prvaka japanske formule Nippon. On je najmlađi Formula Nippon
šampion i prvi ruki koji je uspeo da osvoji titulu u 24-godišnjoj istoriji
ovog šampionata. Inače, Formula Nippon je japanska verzija Formule 3000.
auto-moto.644tomislavr,
22.10.1996.(Rubens Baričelo i Stjuart, Prvi Frencenov test, Šumaher i
Ferari, Još jedan F1 tim?)
Rubens Baričelo i Stjuart ----------------------------------------
Rubens Baričelo nije potpisao ugovor na dve, već na tri godine sa
Stjuart rejsing timom ;) On će biti klupski kolega Janu Magnusenu koji
je prvi potpisao za novi tim.
Vlasnik tima Džeki Stjuart je izjavio: "Oduševljeni smo što imamo
Rubensa sa nama od samog starta. Rekli smo da želimo vozača sa iskustvom
u Formuli 1 pored mladog i perspektivnog talenta, kojeg imamo u Janu".
Prvi Frencenov test -----------------------------------------------
Frencen je imao svoj prvi test u Vilijams-Renou na stazi Estoril danas.
Nemac je želeo da proba opciju sa dve pedale, umesto tri koliko je imao
u Zauber-Fordu. Najbolje vreme mu je bilo 1m 21.680s.
Frencen je posle testa izjavio da ima nekih prednosti u dvopedalnoj ;)
opciji i kvačilu na upravljaču. Frenk Vilijams je garantovao da će Hajnc
imati mnogo testova pre početka nove sezone.
Dejmon Hil će početi testiranja "krajem ovog, ili početkom sledećeg
meseca jer mu je potreban odmor", rekao je spokesman TWR F1 tima.
Šumaher i Ferrari -------------------------------------------------
Partnerstvo između Šumahera i Ferarija može potrajati veoma dugo. Prema
izjavi njegovog menadžera Vila Vebera, Nemački bivši šampion može čak i
ostati sa Ferarijem još četiri ili pet godina. Takođe je moguće da
Šumaher završi karijeru sa Ferarijem.
Još jedan F1 tim? --------------------------------------------------
Alan Prost, Ližije, Pežo i Total će objaviti osnivanje novog tima 29.
Oktobra, sudeći prema Francuskim novinama. Ovo u stvari i nije nov tim,
već dramatična promena Ližijea. Ovo takođe znači da Džordan gubi ne samo
motor, već i jednog od glavnih sponzora.
auto-moto.645junior,
> Još jedan F1 tim?
Da li se to Prost vraća kao vozač ili kao šef tima?
auto-moto.646mila,
Iz današnje "Politike":
J U G O S L O V E N S K I T I M U F O R M U L I 1
NEKADAŠNJI PREDSEDNIK AUTO-KLUBA PARTIZAN ZORAN STEFANOVIĆ OBJAVIO
U LONDONU DA JE OSNOVAO SOPSTVENI TIM "STEFAN FORMULA 1" KOJI TREBA
DA DEBITUJE VEĆ SLEDEĆE SEZONE
London, 24.oktobra (Tanjug)
U Svetskom automobilskom prvenstvu u "formuli 1", od iduće sezone,
prvi put biće zastupljeni i predstavnici Savezne Republike Jugoslavije.
Reč je o automobilskoj ekipi "Stefan gran pri", čiji je osnivač Zoran
Stefanović iz Beograda, nekadašnji predsednik Auto-kluba "Partizan", koji
trenutno živi u Londonu.
Stefanović je danas Tanjug-u u Londonu potvrdio da je Svetska automo-
bilska federacija, čije je sedište u Parizu, izdala novoosnovanom timu sva
neophodna odobrenja i da ga je uvrstila u takmičenje "Formule 1" za iduću
sezonu. On je, takođe, izjavio da "Stefan gran pri" ima i punu podršku
generalnog direktora takmičenja i Udruženja konstruktora Bernija Eklestona,
koji će omogućiti transport i smeštaj ekipe.
Sedište "Stefan gran prija" je u engleskom gradu Milton Kinsu, severno od
Londona, a tehnički direktor tima i konstruktor prvog vozila je poznati
engleski stručnjak Džordž Rajton. U bogatoj karijeri, Rajton je bio i šef
konstruktora u "Ferariju", zatim konstruktor Ferarijeve Gran pri Formule 1,
tehnički direktor "Tajrela" i vođa konstrukcije u "Rinardu".
Trenutno ekipu "Stefan gran prija" sačinjava 14 inženjera, a do kraja
novembra ukupan broj zaposlenih biće 50. Tokom iduće takmičarske sezone
u timu će biti zaposleno 110 ljudi.
Prva "Stefan Formula 1" biće spremna za testiranje januara 1997. godine.
Motor za tu formulu proizvodi engleski "Kosvort" i to model "ED", a
poluautomatski menjač pripada, takođe engleskom, proizvođaču "X-Trak".
Tim pregovara sa nekoliko poznatih vozača, a imena dvojice koji će voziti
iduće sezone biće poznata za nešto više od dve nedelje.
auto-moto.647tomislavr,
> Da li se to Prost vraća kao vozač ili kao šef tima?
Kao šef tima, verofatno napušta McLaren...
auto-moto.648budim,
(:) Tim pregovara sa nekoliko poznatih vozača, a imena dvojice koji će
(:) voziti iduće sezone biće poznata za nešto više od dve nedelje.
Da se kladimo da će u tom timu biti "stanoviti MM iz Požarevca"? :)
poz,
budimir
auto-moto.649lexus,
=> Da se kladimo da će u tom timu biti "stanoviti MM iz Požarevca"? :)
Možda i hoće :) Ne puštaju baš svakoga u F1... A videćemo hoće li
ovaj tim startovati na bar jednoj trci...
auto-moto.650senna,
re: YU tim u formuli
a) Jeste li sigurni da je ta informacija tachna?
b) Rumunskiji motor nisu mogli da nadju, bolje da je IMR pravio motore ;)).
c) Znaju li se sponzori? Bilo bi kul kad bi BIP bio sponzor, il
josh bolje Drina bez filtera.. Mislim kad moze Rothmans :)).
auto-moto.651junior,
> re: YU tim u formuli
Kad smo već kod nas u F1 ... Zna li neko šta je bilo sa projektom izgradnje
staze za F1 u okolini Beograda? Ako se dobro sećam, dobili smo podršku za tu
stazu, a onda dođoše sankcije i .. šta bi?
auto-moto.652space.ace,
>> Kad smo već kod nas u F1 ... Zna li neko šta je bilo sa projektom
>> izgradnje staze za F1 u okolini Beograda? Ako se dobro sećam, dobili smo
>> podršku za tu stazu, a onda dođoše sankcije i .. šta bi?
Ćuti, ne pričaj glasnije, neko će te čuti pa ćeš se izblamirati :).
Šalim se, naravno; nisam čuo za Beograd, ali je bilo nekih priča da će "kao"
da prave stazu u Užicu. jer je kao sama konfiguracija grada idealna za
uličnu trkačku stazu. Tu su sad išle uporedbe buduće staze i staze u Monaku,
pa se došlo do zaključka (na partijskom sastanku) da je buduća staza u Užicu
mnogo bolja od Monaka, jer je grad u kotlini, pa se može experimentisati...
Uglavnom, ako mene pitate, jedenje *ovana. Jesam grub na rečima, ali tako je
to...
auto-moto.653stefan,
> Kad smo već kod nas u F1 ... Zna li neko šta je bilo sa projektom
> izgradnje staze za F1 u okolini Beograda? Ako se dobro sećam, dobili smo
> podršku za tu stazu, a onda dođoše sankcije i .. šta bi?
Evo sad će, čim završe mostove...;)
auto-moto.654senna,
re: staza za f1 u bg
Hmm, pa ja sam chak i video kako staza treba da izgleda, drug koji
radi u autu mi je dobavio skicu, a od drugog ortaka sam chuo da je video to i
na tv.. Koliko sam upoznat trebalo je da se pravi negde oko Bezanije ili tako
neshto, znao sam i broj bloka al sad ne mogu da se setim.
auto-moto.655mileusna,
>> Kad smo već kod nas u F1 ... Zna li neko šta je bilo sa projektom
>> izgradnje staze za F1 u okolini Beograda? Ako se dobro sećam,
>> dobili smo podršku za tu stazu, a onda dođoše sankcije i .. šta bi?
Biće, biće... verovatno iste godine kad i Olimpijada
u Beogradu. :)))
auto-moto.656nenad,
> Kad smo već kod nas u F1 ... Zna li neko šta je bilo sa projektom
> izgradnje staze za F1 u okolini Beograda? Ako se dobro sećam, dobili smo
> podršku za tu stazu, a onda dođoše sankcije i .. šta bi?
Još su sankcije. ;)
Staza je trebalo da bude između bloka 45 na Novom Beogradu i
Surčina, ali sada su tamo izgradili još stambenih zgrada. Nema
ništa od toga...
auto-moto.657nenad,
> Šalim se, naravno; nisam čuo za Beograd, ali je bilo nekih priča da će
> "kao" da prave stazu u Užicu. jer je kao sama konfiguracija grada idealna
> za uličnu trkačku stazu.
Super je Užice za trkačku stazu, ne može niko da izleti, odmah
udari u brdo. ;)
> Monaku, pa se došlo do zaključka (na partijskom sastanku) da je buduća
> staza u Užicu mnogo bolja od Monaka, jer je grad u kotlini, pa se može
> experimentisati...
Užice nije u kotlini već u rupi.
auto-moto.658supers,
>> staze za F1 u okolini Beograda? Ako se dobro sećam, dobili smo
>> podršku za tu stazu, a onda dođoše sankcije i .. šta bi?
Ma, dobićemo mi i stazu za F1, čim završimo Prokop, Europolis,
obilaznicu oko Beograda, drugu pistu Surčinskog aerodroma...
auto-moto.659senna,
re: staza f1 u bgd
Sad sam se setio, trebalo je da se pravi u 53. bloku.
auto-moto.660space.ace,
>> Užice nije u kotlini već u rupi.
Znam, ali nisam hteo da budem suviše grub prema gradu ;)))
auto-moto.661supers,
>> Sad sam se setio, trebalo je da se pravi u 53. bloku.
To je iza kvantaške pijace, prema surčinskom aerodormu.
auto-moto.662tomislavr,
Vratio se vpoznanovic! :) Ponovo radi bioskop...
auto-moto.663stukelj,
Da li neko ima neke informacije o motoru TWR-a sledece godine i koje
se staze i kada voze???
auto-moto.664vdunic,
Znam samo da će za TWR da vozi Dejmon Hill
auto-moto.665mila,
> Da li neko ima neke informacije o motoru TWR-a sledece godine i koje
> se staze i kada voze???
TWR će iduće godine, kao prelazno rešenje, nastupati s Jamaha motorima.
Kao prelazno, jer najavljuju ugovor s Hondom za 1998.
Sledeća sezona počinje 09.03, na Australijskoj stazi, u Melburnu.
Zatim, slede:
30.03. V.N. Brazila - Sao Paolo
13.04. V.N. Argentine - Buenos Ajres
27.04. V.N. San Marina - Imola
11.05. V.N. Monaka - Monte Karlo
25.02. V.N. Španije - Barselona
15.06. V.N. Kanade - Montreal
29.06. V.N. Francuske - Manji Kur
13.07. V.N. Vel. Britanije - Silverston
27.07. V.N Nemačke - Hokenhajm
10.08. V.N. Mađarske - Budimpešta
24.08. V.N. Belgije - Spa
07.09. V.N. Italije - Monca
21.09. V.N. Austrije - Celtveg
05.10. V.N. Portugalije - Estoril, ili V.N. Evrope -
Nirnburgring
19.10. V.N. Japana - Suzuka
02.11. V.N. Port. - Estoril, ili V.N. Evrope (Nirnburgring
ili Herez)
Kalendar je konačan, osim po pitanju Portugalije i V.N. Evrope,
i dobro ste pročitali: Voziće se 17 (sedamnaest) trka. Iako je bilo
najavljivano,
V.N. Mađarske nije izostavljena iz novog kalendara, a novost je i V.N.
Austrije,
koja se posle deset godina, ponovo vozi u Celtvegu. Jedva čekam 09.03.!
Kao izvor informacija, poslužila mi je "Politika" od ponedeljka, 18.11.96.
auto-moto.666shadow,
Trazim jos nekog vlasnika motocikla
SUZUKI LS 650 SAVAGE
radi izmene iskustva i saveta u vezi ovog motocikla.
Javite se na mail ovde na Sezam-u ili na adresu
shadow@sezampro.yu
SHADOW
auto-moto.667space.ace,
Da li ste možda čitali u štampi o Hill-ovoj žuraji povodom titule?
Došli su svi vozači, naravno i Šumi, koji je "ladio" pivo celo veče,
dok su feštu napravili Vilnev, Salo i Cultard, pojavivši se potpuno
ćelavi na žurci!!!
Dejmon je još jednom pokazao svoju majstorsku veštinu sviranja gitare,
klavira, i naravno pevanje :). SvetCki čovek, nema šta!!!
I really love that man!
P.S. Vilnev se pojavio i na dodeli MTV nagrada... Seljak ;).
auto-moto.668mila,
Danas u Kragujevcu vožena prva trka auto relly cross kupa.
Obavezno skinite izveštaj!
izvestajauto-moto.669schef,
][ Danas u Kragujevcu vožena prva trka auto relly cross kupa.
][ Obavezno skinite izveštaj!
Hej majstore, bijo sam. :) No, pošto sam čuo da će da počne u 12, zakasnio
sam na prvu trku jer su počeli ranije zbog kiše. :(
No, nema veze, i druga trka je bila fenomenalna. :) Naročito mi se svideo
onaj Reno 4 ;) i njegov rezervoarčić. :)
Nego, nisam znao da je ono nešto zvanično, mislio sam da je Dženinks to
organizovao čisto radi zezanja. ;) Takođe sam čuo (devojka mi je Dženinksova
komšinica a i drugar mi je 'sređivao' pobednički auto) da će to da bude i
sledeće nedelje.
Da se nađemo negde da se upoznamo? :)