auto-moto.1emajsijuen,
Ovog vikenda je Grand Prix Italije u Mugellu... gde je, btw, Mick
Doohan pobedjivao 5 godina zaredom, ali ovog puta tu je Max Biaggi da
mu pokaze ko je the boss... ko ovo propusti kajace se do kraja zivota..
vector
auto-moto.2crusader,
Samo ime kaze sve.
ferrari.jpgauto-moto.3obren,
> Ovog vikenda je Grand Prix Italije u Mugellu... gde je, btw, Mick
> Doohan pobedjivao 5 godina zaredom, ali ovog puta tu je Max Biaggi da
> mu pokaze ko je the boss... ko ovo propusti kajace se do kraja zivota..
Aj' po dinar da dobija Doohan? ;)
auto-moto.4emajsijuen,
> Doohan pobedjivao 5 godina zaredom, ali ovog puta tu je Max Biaggi da
> mu pokaze ko je the boss... ko ovo propusti kajace se do kraja zivota..
Ne lupaj gluposti... Alex Barros se u Mugellu vraca na puteve pobede ;)
Uostalom, zar nije Barros "king of late brakers" ? ;))
auto-moto.5emajsijuen,
> Ne lupaj gluposti... Alex Barros se u Mugellu vraca na puteve pobede ;)
> Uostalom, zar nije Barros "king of late brakers" ? ;))
Nije lose za pocetak, Barros je drugi na kvalifikacijama, Doohan je ponovo
u formi - oko 0.5 sekundi ispred Barrosa, Biaggi u totalnoj nemoci, tek 3.
Inace, Doohan je rekao da motor i dalje nije savrsen, jer u guzvi moze da
ima male probleme, ali ako bude dobro startovao i vodio od pocetka sigurno
mu niko nece nista moci da kraja trke... Ova trka ce biti pocetak serije
pobeda koja je na kratko prekinuta u Jerezu... ;)
stukelj
auto-moto.6senna,
Ono jes, pobedi Mick...
auto-moto.7vpoznanovic,
Monaco Grand Prix 1998
from Monte Carlo, Monaco
21st May 1998 - 24th May 1998
Thursday, May 21st
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, May 23rd
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, May 24th
Warm-up (10:00 - 10:30 CET)
Race (14:30 - 16:30 CET) (78 laps)
auto-moto.8emajsijuen,
Ů▄█ Uostalom, zar nije Barros "king of late brakers" ? ;))
Postoji samo jedan "the king of late brakers", a to je the one and
only Alessandro Zanardi.. btw, kakva je legenda onaj Rossi.. :)))
˙-───»
auto-moto.9vpoznanovic,
F1: Monaco GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:21.937
2. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:22.205 0.268 0.268
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:22.757 0.552 0.820
4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:23.656 0.899 1.719
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:23.685 0.029 1.748
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:23.765 0.080 1.828
7. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:23.914 0.149 1.977
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:23.946 0.032 2.009
9. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:24.081 0.135 2.144
10. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:24.191 0.110 2.254
11. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:24.735 0.544 2.798
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:24.901 0.166 2.964
13. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:25.119 0.218 3.182
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:25.400 0.281 3.463
15. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1:25.836 0.436 3.899
16. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:25.863 0.027 3.926
17. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:25.947 0.084 4.010
18. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:26.625 0.678 4.688
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:26.761 0.136 4.824
20. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.160 0.399 5.223
107% of fastest time: 1:27.672
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:27.844 0.684 5.907
22. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.652 0.808 6.715
auto-moto.10senna,
Samo da kazem da je shvaba bio najbrzi posle prve ture krugova, pa se
posle skucao. Truli je imao jezivo brz krug, al se i on razvalio, a Alezi i
Vurc su se sudarili u boksu, poshto je baja iz benetona pustio Vurca da
izadje a da nije pogledao nailazi li ko.. Vilnev se skucao u Rosea koji nije
bash najbolje gledao u ogledala, a Hilu i Irvinu je vrisnuo motor.. Inache,
mercedesov motor sada zvanichno ima 800ks.. Kukala ostalima majka kad se
dodje do Hokenhajma, Spa i Monze..
auto-moto.11tomislavr,
> Samo da kazem da je shvaba bio najbrzi posle prve ture krugova, pa se
Samo da kažem da on nije Švaba nego Šumi ;), a on će pobediti..
auto-moto.12senna,
> Samo da kazem da on nije Svaba nego Sumi ;), a on ce pobediti..
Shvaba.
auto-moto.13tomislavr,
Koga zanima, kvalifikacije sa VN Monaka (Roset se nije kvalifikovao ;)
P. No Driver Team - Car Time/Laps
1. 8 HAKKINEN McLaren Mercedes 1'19"798 151.899 km/h
2. 7 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes 1'20"137 + 0'00"339
3. 5 FISICHELLA Benetton Mecachro 1'20"368 + 0'00"570
4. 3 M.SCHUM' Ferrari 1'20"702 + 0'00"904
5. 2 FRENTZEN Williams Mecachro 1'20"729 + 0'00"931
6. 6 WURZ Benetton Mecachro 1'20"955 + 0'01"157
7. 4 IRVINE Ferrari 1'21"712 + 0'01"914
8. 17 SALO Arrows TWR 1'22"144 + 0'02"346
9. 15 HERBERT Sauber Petronas 1'22"157 + 0'02"359
10. 12 TRULLI Prost Peugeot 1'22"238 + 0'02"440
11. 14 ALESI Sauber Petronas 1'22"257 + 0'02"459
12. 16 DINIZ Arrows TWR 1'22"355 + 0'02"557
13. 1 VILLENEUVE Williams Mecachro 1'22"468 + 0'02"670
14. 18 BARRICHELLO Stewart Ford 1'22"540 + 0'02"742
15. 9 HILL Jordan Mugen-Hond 1'23"151 + 0'03"353
16. 10 R.SCHUM' Jordan Mugen-Hond 1'23"263 + 0'03"465
17. 19 MAGNUSSEN Stewart Ford 1'23"411 + 0'03"613
18. 11 PANIS Prost Peugeot 1'23"629 + 0'03"831
19. 22 NAKANO Minardi Ford 1'23"957 + 0'04"159
20. 21 TAKAGI Tyrrell Ford 1'24"024 + 0'04"226
21. 23 TUERO Minardi Ford 1'24"031 + 0'04"233
22. 20 ROSSET Tyrrell Ford 1'25"737 + 0'05"939
auto-moto.14vedran,
Ja mislim da Tomislavr nema pojma o formuli a ni Obren.
:):):):):):):):):)::):)::)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
auto-moto.15senna,
> Ja mislim da Tomislavr nema pojma o formuli a ni Obren.
Nemash pojma kolko si u pravu.. ;)
auto-moto.16vpoznanovic,
Canadian Grand Prix 1998
from Montreal, Canada
5th June 1998 - 7th June 1998
Friday, June 5th
1st Free Practice (17:00 - 18:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (19:00 - 20:00 CET)
Saturday, June 6th
3rd Free Practice (15:00 - 15:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (16:15 - 17:00 CET)
Qualifying (19:00 - 20:00 CET)
Sunday, June 7th
Warm-up (14:30 - 15:00 CET)
Race (19:00 - 21:00 CET) (69 laps)
auto-moto.17vpoznanovic,
F1: Canadian GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:19.613
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:19.999 0.386 0.386
3. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:20.252 0.253 0.639
4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20.316 0.064 0.703
5. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:20.480 0.164 0.867
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:20.622 0.142 1.009
7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:20.821 0.199 1.208
8. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:20.937 0.116 1.324
9. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:21.069 0.132 1.456
10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.191 0.122 1.578
11. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.239 0.048 1.626
12. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.274 0.035 1.661
13. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.282 0.008 1.669
14. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:21.294 0.012 1.681
15. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:21.370 0.076 1.757
16. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:21.597 0.227 1.984
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:21.962 0.365 2.349
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:22.100 0.138 2.487
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.137 0.037 2.524
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.425 0.288 2.812
21. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:23.011 0.586 3.398
22. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1:23.146 0.135 3.533
107% of fastest time: 1:25.185
auto-moto.18vpoznanovic,
F1: Canadian GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:18.741
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:18.741 0.000 0.000
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:19.198 0.457 0.457
4. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:19.362 0.164 0.621
5. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:19.414 0.052 0.673
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.512 0.098 0.771
7. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.623 0.111 0.882
8. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.898 0.275 1.157
9. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:19.979 0.081 1.238
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.990 0.011 1.249
11. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:20.075 0.085 1.334
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.170 0.095 1.429
13. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:20.350 0.180 1.609
14. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.671 0.321 1.930
15. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:20.956 0.285 2.215
16. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:21.196 0.240 2.455
17. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:21.251 0.055 2.510
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:21.281 0.030 2.540
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:21.361 0.080 2.620
20. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:21.505 0.144 2.764
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:21.700 0.195 2.959
22. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.875 1.175 4.134
107% of fastest time: 1:24.252
auto-moto.19obren,
Rezultati kvalifikacija za VN Kanade
P. Driver Team - Car Time/Laps
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes 1'18"213 203.490 km/h
2. HAKKINEN McLaren Mercedes 1'18"282 + 0'00"069
3. M.SCHUM' Ferrari 1'18"497 + 0'00"284
4. FISICHELLA Benetton Playlife 1'18"826 + 0'00"613
5. R.SCHUM' Jordan Mugen-Honda 1'19"242 + 0'01"029
6. VILLENEUVE Williams Mecachrome 1'19"588 + 0'01"375
7. FRENTZEN Williams Mecachrome 1'19"614 + 0'01"401
8. IRVINE Ferrari 1'19"616 + 0'01"403
9. ALESI Sauber Petronas 1'19"693 + 0'01"480
10. HILL Jordan Mugen-Honda 1'19"717 + 0'01"504
11. WURZ Benetton Playlife 1'19"765 + 0'01"552
12. HERBERT Sauber Petronas 1'19"845 + 0'01"632
13. BARRICHELLO Stewart Ford 1'19"953 + 0'01"740
14. TRULLI Prost Peugeot 1'20"188 + 0'01"975
15. PANIS Prost Peugeot 1'20"303 + 0'02"090
16. TAKAGI Tyrrell Ford 1'20"328 + 0'02"115
17. SALO Arrows TWR 1'20"536 + 0'02"323
18. NAKANO Minardi Ford 1'21"230 + 0'03"017
19. DINIZ Arrows TWR 1'21"301 + 0'03"088
20. MAGNUSSEN Stewart Ford 1'21"629 + 0'03"416
21. TUERO Minardi Ford 1'21"822 + 0'03"609
22. ROSSET Tyrrell Ford 1'21"824 + 0'03"611
auto-moto.20emajsijuen,
Vector ovde.. danas u 20:00 na eurosportu.. cart, detroit grand prix..
pol je uzeo Moore, drugi je Zanardi.. bice opako..
auto-moto.21junior,
Strašna trka.
2 starta, 2x pace car, 2x riknuo Mclaren. I još uz sve, Šumaher
pobedio. Ima li lepšeg scenarija? ;)
U svakom slučaju, Ralf i pored dobrog mesta na startu, nastavio
je sa tradicijom okretanja na stazi. Hill je po običaju, iako je
bio na drugom mestu, uspeo da dovuče bolid do boksa i da se parkira
tamo, a ne pored staze. Vilnev je iako je imao odličnu šansu za
podijum, završio tamo gde i spada - na njivi .. no, dobro, vratio
se na stazu sa 7 (SEDAM) i po minuta zakašnjenja.
I to je to .. Šumi, startovao treći, išao u 2 boxa, dobio stop & go
penalty, oborio rekord staze (vozio je nešto oko 1:19:320), koji je
primera radi, brže vreme nego Vilnev na kvalifikacijama :)
Čovek je stvarno faca. Čestitke i boxu, koji mu je svetski odradio
posao. Samo pola sekunde više, i morao bi da se bori sa Fizikelom.
Ovako, samo je odradio rutinu. Fizikela nije čak ni pokušao da napadne.
I, ako se dobro sećam, poredak na kraju bio je:
1. Šumaher
2. Fizikela
3. Irvine
4. Wurz
5. Baričelo
6. Magnusen (?)
auto-moto.22gkod,
3#x pace car koliko se ja secam a gledao sam celu trku.
1.posle starta prvi put
2.posle ponovljenog starta drugi put
3.posle okopavanja staze od strane deniza koliko se secam treci put
auto-moto.23obren,
Canadian GP, Post Race press conference
Questioner: Congratulations, Michael, on a victory which has opened up
the world championship. After the second start, when Mika had retired
and you were close to David Coulthard, did you think you might have been
able to challenge for the lead?
Michael Schumacher: I had a good race with him until the moment he
retired. I don't know what strategy he was on, but I was definitely
faster. Unfortunately there was no way for me to get by, and the moment
his car broke down it was obviously a good situation for me, to score
points and to catch up with him in the championship. Now my situation in
the championship looks much better than it did before this race.
Questioner: Coming out of the pits after your first refuelling stop, you
almost touched Heinz-Harald Frentzen, who went off the road at the first
corner. That moment eventually cost you a 10-second penalty: do have any
reflections on it now?
Michael Schumacher: I haven't seen it [on video yet] and I can only
imagine what happened. If [what you say] is what happened, then I really
will have to make my excuses to him. I looked to my right when I came
out of the pit lane, to see if there was anyone [on the track], and I
didn't see anyone. So I pulled over to get on to the line. In the
mirrors it is almost impossible to see things, and I really don't know
what happened, I will have to look at the video. But if I have done
anything wrong I want to excuse myself.
Questioner: You also had a difficult few moments trying to lap Damon Hill...
Michael Schumacher: Yes. You wouldn't want to hear the words that I was
thinking at that moment, because that was purely dangerous driving]. If
someone wants to kill you, he should do it in a different way. We are
doing 320 km/h down there, and for someone to move off the line three
times is simply [unacceptable]. You can do it once, moving from one side
to the other, that is OK, it's what we usually do. But to do it three
times is impossible, you cannot have a situation where [you come so
close] to touching each other. I was so angry with that situation and I
wonder why he didn't get a penalty for what he did. I know I cut the
chicane, but I had almost lost my car avoiding that circumstance and I
was lucky even to get through the chicane anyway. It is impossible for
such an experienced man to do such things. I can't handle that and I
will be having big words with him.
Questioner: Giancarlo, congratulations on your second 2nd place in two
weeks. How hard was Michael pushing you when you were ahead of him?
Giancarlo Fisichella: From the beginning the race for me was very
difficult because our strategy was to do just one pitstop, which made it
too difficult. When Michael was behind me, about 20 laps after the
start, the behaviour of the car was much better. Also my lap times were
quite good, even though I had been having a problem with third gear from
the beginning of the race.
Questioner: Did you think at one time you might have been able to win?
Giancarlo Fisichella: Hmmmm ... we are getting better and better, race
after race. Today the victory was very close. Anyway, it's important to
be in front, it's important to be quick and I hope soon I will have a
victory.
Questioner: What happened when Villeneuve tried to pass you after the
safety car was withdrawn?
Giancarlo Fisichella: I made a mistake in the last corner, and he was
quicker than me as the start line. In the end I went on the inside: I
saw him brake too late and he spun.
Questioner: Eddie, this is your fourth third place of the season. Are
you getting a bit fed up with third?
Eddie Irvine: It's better than fourth, or fifth, or sixth. At one stage
I was 17th so I can't exactly complain, can I? I was stuck behind a
Minardi for 20 or 30 laps, so that wasn't particularly impressive. To
end up here [on the podium] is a bit of a surprise.
Questioner: After going nearly a whole lap on a flat tyre after the
first start, was your car's handling still okay?
Eddie Irvine: I thought I had damaged the suspension because immediately
after I was tapped up the rear the car felt strange to drive. But
something had sliced the tyre, it was probably someone's front wing end
plate. The tyre went flat immediately and I thought it was the
suspension which was damaged. I was thinking 'should I keep going?'
because there was [bits of] tyre flying all over the place and I thought
I might get in trouble for putting so much rubber on the track. But I
just kept going, [my crew] put a set of fresh tyres on and there was no
problem. The most important thing was that I had not lost a lap.
Questioner: You were behind Wurz for several laps. Was his car slower
than yours?
Eddie Irvine: I felt that I was quicker than him, but the two of us
would sometimes drop back from whoever it was in the Minardi ahead of
us. Whenever I was able to trouble him, the two of us would catch up
with the Minardi and [Wurz] would then get a tow from the Minardi. That
meant I had no chance, because he was quick on the exit of corners and I
wasn't. It was a stalemate. Also, during the safety car periods we
didn't know what to do about our strategy. But it worked out well and we
did the two short stints at the end.
auto-moto.24obren,
Sauber GP - Canada quotes
Jean Alesi:
The trick at starts is to know when you have achieved enough, not to be
greedy and try to pass too many people. There are some youger drivers
who do not seem to understand this ! I made a good first start, but then
the next thing I knew was Wurz's Benetton rolling across the top of me.
I made another good start the second time, but then Irvine moved accross
and his wheel hit my nose and took it off. Then I felt another bump and
suddenly I had Trulli sitting on top of me. Each time there was nothing
that I could do, and that makes it all the more frustating because this
was the sort of race to have taken points from.
Johnny Herbert:
After I bent a trackrod in the accident with Jean and Wurz, I thought
for a while I would'nt be racing at all today ! I began the restart from
the pits, and it says everything that I was up to 13th at the end of the
lap. But my car was slow on the straight and I really struggled to pass
Rosset and Nakano. Magnussen was also very quick on the straight, but
slow on the corners. I could have stayed behind him, but it's my job to
try and pass. When I did, I spun at the hairpins as the vack just slid
round on me. I'd been unhappy with the quality of the downchanges, and
maybe that was a contributory factor. Though I didn't stall I couldn't
get a gear to restart, so that was it, race over.
Peter Sauber:
I'm sure you will pardon me, but I don't want to say anything about our
race today.
auto-moto.25obren,
Jordan GP - Canada
THE RACE
Much needed points and a podium finish were so nearly within the grasp
of Damon Hill and the Benson and Hedges Jordan team today, in a
spectacular Canadian Grand Prix. An electrical problem, however, meant
success eluded the team, leaving a sea of disappointed faces in the
Jordan garage.
Damon Hill was able to capitalise on the unusually high number of racing
incidents to run competitively at the top end of the field for much of
the race. Running in third place, on a one stop strategy, he was well
placed for a podium finish, but suffered electrical problems after his
pit stop. He came back to the pits in the hope that the problem could be
rectified, and continued to race again, but was eventually forced to
abandon his race on lap 43
Ralf Schumacher, after qualifying so strongly in fifth place, had a
disappointing day. He stalled at the first start, and then suffered from
loss of drive on the first corner of the second start. Post race
analysis found this to be caused by a faulty clutch actuator.
DAMON HILL CHASSIS 03 Did not finish - electrical problem "I feel so
disappointed so I can't imagine how Eddie and the team feels. We really
needed to get points, and we were looking not only to do that but to be
on to the podium, only then to be caught out by what seems to be an
electrical problem. We can take some comfort from the fact that we were
not only up with the front runners, but were making fairly respectable
times and were competitive. I was running beautifully on a one stop
strategy and then I got a misfire. It felt so fantastic to be up at the
front again. This was the first time this year that I have been able to
race for the top three positions and I was not going to let second or
third place go that easily, so I enjoyed some racing with Michael!"
RALF SCHUMACHER CHASSIS 04 Did not finish - Loss of drive caused by a
faulty clutch actuator "On the first start I stalled the engine; the
clutch came in quite harshly and the engine stopped. At the second start
I put the revs higher and that was too much for the clutch and I lost
the rear drive. There was a little drive to begin with but at the first
corner when I shifted down there was no more drive on the wheel and no
engine brake so I spun."
EDDIE JORDAN, TEAM OWNER
"What I feel cannot be printed! All I can say is that at least it was
fantastic to see Damon running in points and podium positions. We have
to keep the faith."
auto-moto.26obren,
Ferrari press release - Canadian Grand Prix
Michael Schumacher made a good first start into second, while Eddie
Irvine was seventh, before an accident saw the race red flagged. Another
accident brought out the safety-car at the second start. Irvine had a
puncture to the left rear wheel and came in under the safety-car and
came out in 17th place. On lap 5 when the race re-started, Schumacher
was second. The safety-car reappeared on lap 13 and again on lap 20,
when Michael made a pit-stop, rejoining in third place. He moved up to
second on lap 23. He had to pit for a stop-and-go penalty on lap 35,
which dropped him to third, but again went second on lap 38, the same
lap on which Irvine made his first stop, dropping from sixth to eighth.
When Fisichella pitted on lap 44, Schumacher took the lead, pitting
again on lap 50 and maintaining his lead to the end. Eddie made his
final stop on lap 55, when third and maintained that position to the
flag. After the press conference, Schumacher went to see Frentzen and
after listening to what he had to say, Michael apologised for the
incident, explaining he had simply not seen the Williams.
Jean Todt: "It was an incredible race. I cannot recall when I last saw
one like it having the safety-car appear three times complicated our
planned two stop strategy for both our cars. Michael made a great first
start until the red flag stopped the race. Michael's 10 second penalty
also cost us twenty seconds. Eddie had a puncture at the second start,
which relegated him to 17th. Despite all this we got both our cars onto
the podium and the team made an exceptional contribution to this result.
Michael drove an unbelievable race and Eddie managed to claim third. We
must thank Goodyear, who provided us with very good tyres. We must now
look to the rest of the Championship and to our forthcoming test
sessions. Our feet must stay on the ground and we must continue to work
with determination, just as we have done so far."
Michael Schumacher: "We have closed the gap to McLaren this weekend and
I am very happy about this. I am also optimistic about the future as we
have some more developments to come for the next few races and I hope we
can reach the same level as McLaren or even get ahead of them. My
special thanks to Goodyear, who gave us a competitive tyre here and I am
sure that will continue. For the Championship, this is the best possible
situation, as I have maximum points and McLaren has none.
Fantastic team work and the quick pit stops won the race today. As for
the incident with Frentzen, I do not know what happened. If it was my
fault the I want to apologise him. I looked in my mirrors and saw
nothing, then I looked to my right and still saw nothing. So when I was
called in for my penalty, I did not understand, as I knew I had not
speeded in the pit-lane. I want to have a strong word with Hill. What he
did was unacceptable. To change line once is normal, but to do it three
times at 320 km/h down the straight is very dangerous. He braked early
for the first chicane and I had to cut the chicane to stop hitting him.
I am very angry."
Eddie Irvine: "I was very fortunate today. I was in the middle of the
first accident and did not get hit and again, I was in the middle of the
second and just had my rear tyre sliced by someone's front wing. At
first I thought I had broken my suspension but when the team changed the
tyres everything was fine. As the safety-car was out I did not lose a
lap, but myself and Wurz spent many laps trying to get past a Minardi. I
made my job difficult this weekend by spinning off a couple of times in
practice so I am very happy with my fourth podium of the season. Michael
showed today what can happened when we put the McLarens under pressure.
As usual my mechanics did a great job to get me out of the pits so
quickly and our strategy was just right, the team telling me to push so
I came out of the pits 2 seconds ahead of Wurz."
auto-moto.27obren,
Benetton press release - Canadian Grand Prix
Giancarlo Fisichella finished in second place in the Canadian Grand
Prix, while Alexander Wurz used the spare car to finish in fourth.
Giancarlo Fisichella: "Two second positions in two races is an
incredible result. I can't quite believe it! I would like to say a big
thank you to the Mild Seven Benetton Playlife team and particularly to
my mechanics. I had a big problem at the beginning of the race because I
was only doing one pit stop, so I had a lot of fuel in the car. For the
first ten to 15 laps there was a lot of understeer. I also had a problem
with third gear. The gears got stuck when I changed up and this got
worse as the race went on. But I am delighted with second place. It is a
fantastic result."
Alexander Wurz: "This has to be the craziest race of my career. On the
first start Damon Hill pushed me to the left and I touched Alesi's car.
It wasn't very hard, but it was enough to make me fly over into the
gravel. I immediately went on the radio to say I was OK and asked if I
could use the T-car for the restart. The race was hard because with the
Safety Car coming out so many times it was difficult to keep the tyres
at the right temperature. My brakes were also fading, so I needed to
concentrate on finishing the race and I could not push Irvine too hard.
I am delighted with three world championship points. Giancarlo did very
well to get second place. It is a great result for the team."
David Richards (Chief Executive): "The afternoon did not start very well
with Alexander's big accident at the first corner. Thankfully he was
unhurt. The restart and all the circumstances of the race played into
our hands very well. Giancarlo took all the opportunities there for him,
while Alexander worked extremely hard. They are two young drivers who
really are doing a fantastic job."
auto-moto.28obren,
Hajnc Heralf Frencen se juče (petak) žestoko slupao prilikom testiranja u
Manjikuru u Francuskoj! :(
Prilikom sudara sa barijerom od automobilskih guma potpuno je slupao svoj
bolid, iz koga su ga izvukli onesvešćenog i odmah prevezli u bolnicu.
Pregledi su pokazali da na sreću nema nikakvih ozbiljnijih unutrašnjih
povreda, ali obzirom da se Frencen, nakon što se osvestio, požalio na
jake bolove u vratu, biće izvšena i dodatna ispitivanja da bi se detaljno
ustanovilo njegovo zdravstveno stanje.
Samo nekoliko minuta nakon Frencena, i Mihael Šumaher je spinovao na stazi
i takođe udario u barijeru od starih pneumatika. Šumaher je imao daleko
više sreće od svog zemljaka, tako da je iz incidenta izašao bez ikakvih
posledica.
auto-moto.29emajsijuen,
Zanardi je dobio u Portlandu i time prakticno osigurao svoju drugu
titulu.. :> hej, do kraja sampionata slede 3 ulicne, par road i dve
superspeedway staze sto znaci da titula ne moze da izmakne..
Btw, lepo rece Milinkovic ono.. "ovako nesto nikada necete videti u
Formuli 1 zato sto pravi covek ne vozi u Formuli 1". ;))) 12. jula je
grand prix Klivlenda.. ocekuje se jos jedna pobeda legende..
vector
auto-moto.30senna,
> Btw, lepo rece Milinkovic ono.. "ovako nesto nikada necete videti u
>Formuli 1 zato sto pravi covek ne vozi u Formuli 1". ;))) 12. jula je
Pravi chovek je lizao Herbertu auspuh ;)..
auto-moto.31emajsijuen,
Ů▀█ Pravi chovek je lizao Herbertu auspuh ;)..
;)))
auto-moto.32vpoznanovic,
French Grand Prix 1998
from Magny-Cours, France
26th June 1998 - 28th June 1998
Friday, June 26th
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, June 27th
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, June 28th
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (72 laps)
auto-moto.33vpoznanovic,
F1: French GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:16.515
2. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:16.597 0.082 0.082
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:16.707 0.110 0.192
4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:17.026 0.319 0.511
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:17.429 0.403 0.914
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:17.505 0.076 0.990
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:17.664 0.159 1.149
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:17.706 0.042 1.191
9. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:17.895 0.189 1.380
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:17.977 0.082 1.462
11. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:18.036 0.059 1.521
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:18.172 0.136 1.657
13. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:18.367 0.195 1.852
14. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:18.649 0.282 2.134
15. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:18.656 0.007 2.141
16. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:18.703 0.047 2.188
17. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.008 0.305 2.493
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:19.023 0.015 2.508
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:19.057 0.034 2.542
20. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:20.286 1.229 3.771
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:20.445 0.159 3.930
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:20.871 0.426 4.356
107% of fastest time: 1:21.871
auto-moto.34vpoznanovic,
F1: French GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:15.613
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:15.738 0.125 0.125
3. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:15.870 0.132 0.257
4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:15.909 0.039 0.296
5. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:16.678 0.769 1.065
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:16.745 0.067 1.132
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:16.782 0.037 1.169
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:17.106 0.324 1.493
9. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:17.205 0.099 1.592
10. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:17.426 0.221 1.813
11. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:17.711 0.285 2.098
12. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:17.847 0.136 2.234
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:17.873 0.026 2.260
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:18.075 0.202 2.462
15. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:18.170 0.095 2.557
16. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:18.389 0.219 2.776
17. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:18.405 0.016 2.792
18. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:18.451 0.046 2.838
19. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:18.706 0.255 3.093
20. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:18.893 0.187 3.280
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:19.324 0.431 3.711
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:19.475 0.151 3.862
107% of fastest time: 1:20.906
auto-moto.35vpoznanovic,
F1: French GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:14.929
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:15.159 0.230 0.230
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:15.333 0.174 0.404
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:15.527 0.194 0.598
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:15.630 0.103 0.701
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:15.925 0.295 0.996
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:16.245 0.320 1.316
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:16.319 0.074 1.390
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:16.375 0.056 1.446
10. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:16.460 0.085 1.531
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:16.627 0.167 1.698
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:16.892 0.265 1.963
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:16.977 0.085 2.048
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:17.024 0.047 2.095
15. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:17.604 0.580 2.675
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:17.671 0.067 2.742
17. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:17.880 0.209 2.951
18. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:17.908 0.028 2.979
19. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:17.970 0.062 3.041
20. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:18.221 0.251 3.292
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:18.273 0.052 3.344
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:19.146 0.873 4.217
107% of fastest time: 1:20.174
auto-moto.36vpoznanovic,
F1: French GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:16.483
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:16.718 0.235 0.235
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:17.189 0.471 0.706
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:17.628 0.439 1.145
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:18.442 0.814 1.959
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:18.466 0.024 1.983
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:18.545 0.079 2.062
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:18.607 0.062 2.124
9. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:18.611 0.004 2.128
10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:18.729 0.118 2.246
11. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:18.790 0.061 2.307
12. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:18.819 0.029 2.336
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.092 0.273 2.609
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:19.097 0.005 2.614
15. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:19.442 0.345 2.959
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:19.641 0.199 3.158
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:19.733 0.092 3.250
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:19.788 0.055 3.305
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:19.835 0.047 3.352
20. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:20.240 0.405 3.757
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:21.376 1.136 4.893
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:22.160 0.784 5.677
auto-moto.37emajsijuen,
Dosadno..
auto-moto.38vpoznanovic,
F1: French GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:34:45.026
2. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G +19.575
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B +19.747
4. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G +1:06.965
5. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
6. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B -1 lap
7. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
8. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
10. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B -2 laps
11. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B -2 laps
12. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B -2 laps
13. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B -2 laps
14. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B -2 laps
15. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G -3 laps
16. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G -3 laps
17. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B -6 laps
DNF Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 61
DNF Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 56
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 42
DNF Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G on lap 20
DNF Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 17
auto-moto.39vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after French GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 50
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 44
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 30
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 25
5. Alexandr Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 14
6. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 13
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 11
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 8
9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 3
Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 80
2. Ferrari I 69
3. Benetton-Playlife I 27
4. Williams-Mecachrome GB 19
5. Stewart-Ford GB 5
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 4
Arrows-TWR GB 4
auto-moto.40junior,
> Dosadno..
Naravno, kad se zna ko je najbolji.
Onaj Mika je još jednom dokazao da ne ume da prestigne nikog na stazi,
čak ni drugog vozača ferarija :) u direktnoj borbi za poene.
Anyway, Ferrari ponovo sjajan, Šumaher fenomenalan, a Coultard, za utehu
ima 1 bod i najbrži krug.
auto-moto.41senna,
>Onaj Mika je jos jednom dokazao da ne ume da prestigne nikog na stazi,
>cak ni drugog vozaca ferarija :) u direktnoj borbi za poene.
Mika je dokazao da ima mozga.. Da je probao da ga obidje, ovaj
shumaherov ker bi ga tako slatko izgurao sa staze da nemam rechi..
auto-moto.42emajsijuen,
Ů▄█ Onaj Mika je jos jednom dokazao da ne ume da prestigne nikog na stazi,
Ů▄█ cak ni drugog vozaca ferarija :) u direktnoj borbi za poene.
Ne secam se da sam u poslednje dve sezone video MS-a da nekog posteno
obilazi.. inace, ova trka je bila jedna od dosadnijih.. covece, cart trka
u kojoj nema niti jednog jedinog obilazenja (detroit;) je 10 puta
zanimljivija od f1 trke u kojoj se svi obilaze.. ;)
auto-moto.43emajsijuen,
Ů▄█ Onaj Mika je jos jednom dokazao da ne ume da prestigne nikog na stazi,
Ů▄█ cak ni drugog vozaca ferarija :) u direktnoj borbi za poene.
I jos ce neko da me ubedi da Ferrari nije konkurentan..
auto-moto.44junior,
> Ne secam se da sam u poslednje dve sezone video MS-a da nekog
> posteno obilazi.. inace, ova trka je bila jedna od dosadnijih..
Kao što napisah na pro-u, odgledaj snimak Argentine, i Kultarda
i Hakiju :) Hilla u Italiji da ne spominjem :)
auto-moto.45junior,
> Mika je dokazao da ima mozga.. Da je probao da ga obidje, ovaj
> shumaherov ker bi ga tako slatko izgurao sa staze da nemam
> rechi..
To stoji. K'o što rekoh, u ovih par godina kako je Irvine u Ferrariju,
mogu se na prste jedne ruke nabrojati ljudi koji su ga obišli i ostali
živi.
Sem Šumahera, naravno :)
auto-moto.46junior,
> I jos ce neko da me ubedi da Ferrari nije konkurentan..
Ferrari je veoma konkurentan. To je pokazao na poslednje 2 trke.
Ali budući svetski šampion je jedno, a drugi vozač nekog tima,
je ipak druga stvar.
auto-moto.47emajsijuen,
Ů▀Ţ Kao sto napisah na pro-u, odgledaj snimak Argentine, i Kultarda
Ů▀Ţ i Hakiju :) Hilla u Italiji da ne spominjem :)
MH ga je, ako se ne varam, propustio jer je ovaj bio brzi, a svi znamo
na koji nacin je obisao mladog Dejva.. Nego, da li se secas slucajno
Estorila '96 i ko je izveo nemoguce u poslednjoj krivini tada i na kome?
A sto se tice ovoga sa Hakkinenom i Irvinom.. nije bas lako obici na
stazi kao sto je Magny-Cours.. MH ne moze da se priblizi bolidu Ferrarija
u onoj super-brzoj desnoj (estoril?) krivini jer gubi downforce i tako
nije ni mogao da ga slipstrimuje na pravcu i obidje u sledecem hairpinu,
a to je, as far as I know, najbolje mesto za obilazenje..
auto-moto.48senna,
>stazi kao sto je Magny-Cours.. MH ne moze da se priblizi bolidu Ferrarija
>u onoj super-brzoj desnoj (estoril?) krivini jer gubi downforce i tako
Kultard je obisho Irvajna pred sam ulazak u boks, ali su tom prilikom
obojica obilazili nekoga za krug, ne verujem da bi ga ovako obishao..
auto-moto.49junior,
> MH ga je, ako se ne varam, propustio jer je ovaj bio brzi, a
> svi znamo na koji nacin je obisao mladog Dejva.. Nego, da li se
Ma dobro, ali ostaje činjenica da Mika, nakon nesreće, naravno,
nije obišao nikog pošteno na stazi.
Ispravite me, ako grešim.
A Šumi me polako podseća na one stare dobre dane u Benetonu. :)
auto-moto.50emajsijuen,
Ů▀Ţ A Sumi me polako podseca na one stare dobre dane u Benetonu. :)
Ne odgovori mi za ovo u vezi Estorila.. ;) cim mi neko spomene ime
Michael Schumacher, istog momenta se setim kako je JV izveo nemoguce
u onoj dugackoj poslednjoj krivini.. (c) John Watson :))
auto-moto.51petarg,
>Onaj Mika je još jednom dokazao da ne ume da prestigne nikog na
stazi,
>čak ni drugog vozača ferarija :) u direktnoj borbi za poene.
Tako uzbudljiva trka, toliko preticanja, prosto ne mozes da
se odlepis od ekrana, a taj Mika ne moze da pretekne nikog...
Kao da se bilo sta promenilo od samog starta. (ovde se ne
racuna jadni Kultard).
auto-moto.52junior,
> Ne odgovori mi za ovo u vezi Estorila.. ;) cim mi neko spomene
> ime Michael Schumacher, istog momenta se setim kako je JV izveo
> nemoguce u onoj dugackoj poslednjoj krivini.. (c) John Watson:))
Dobro, dobro .. fakat, mali je imao napad lucidnosti, i uradio je
jedini dobar potez u svojoj karijeri. To mu priznajem, i zbog tog
ga cenim.
Na svu sreću, ove godine je opet stari on.
auto-moto.53.dag.,
Ů▀Ţ Dobro, dobro .. fakat, mali je imao napad lucidnosti, i uradio je
Ů▀Ţ jedini dobar potez u svojoj karijeri. To mu priznajem, i zbog tog
Ů▀Ţ ga cenim.
Ne znam da li si primetio, ali JV je jedini covek koji i pokusava
da obidje nekog u Formuli 1. Reci mi.. ko bi drugi uopste pokusao da
outbrake-uje Irvina sa spoljasnje strane u Madjarskoj ili MS-a u
Estorilu? Skoro na svakoj trci covek nekoga obilazi u borbi za
poziciju.. a sto se MS-a tice, taj je majstor za blokiranje drugih..
Seti se Barselone '97.. kako je maestralno zadrzavao mladog Dejva i
ostale.. zatim Madjarske '97 gde je kriv za ispadanje Fisichelle..
itd..itd..
auto-moto.54.dag.,
Kada je sledeca trka?
auto-moto.55miko,
> Ali buduci svetski sampion je jedno, a drugi vozac nekog
> tima, je ipak druga stvar.
Konacno si i ti shvatio! ;)
Mika je sampion, a Coulthard je smesan ;))
auto-moto.56boyaan,
Evo slika najboljeg vozaca formule 1 in the whole world
1.jpgauto-moto.57.dag.,
Al ih je Mansell poducavao u Doningtonu po onoj kisurini.. nije bilo
lose.. Kada je sledeca trka BTCC-a i gde se vozi?
auto-moto.58.dag.,
Na danasnjoj trci u Donington Parku je pobedio Simon Crafar (Red Bull
Yamaha WMC) ispred Micka u klasi od 500cc. Biaggi tek 6. Trka je bila
odlicna.. ovaj Crafar ima strasno dobar stil voznje.. ko nije gledao kako
je driftovao na kvalifikacijama ne zna sta je propustio.. mada, sto mnogi
kazu, pobedio je zbog dunlop guma.. Sledeca trka je Grand Prix Nemacke..
auto-moto.59.dag.,
Ů▄Ţ Na danasnjoj trci u Donington Parku je pobedio Simon Crafar (Red Bull
E,da.. one more thing.. ko je gledao trku mogao je da slusa i intervju
sa Barrichellom (koji je dosao da gleda Barrosa).. rece on nesto u stilu:
"..jedva cekam da ponovo padne kisa pa da se vratim na podijum.." Kakva
legenda.. :)
auto-moto.60.dag.,
Ů▄Ţ Evo slika najboljeg vozaca formule 1 in the whole world
Trenutno najbolji vozac u f1 je Rubens Barrichello.. bar po meni.
auto-moto.61vpoznanovic,
British Grand Prix 1998
from Silverstone, Great Britain
10th July 1998 - 12th July 1998
Friday, July 10th
1st Free Practice (12:00 - 13:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (14:00 - 15:00 CET)
Saturday, July 11th
3rd Free Practice (10:00 - 10:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (11:15 - 12:00 CET)
Qualifying (14:00 - 15:00 CET)
Sunday, July 12th
Warm-up (10:30 - 11:00 CET)
Race (15:00 - 17:00 CET) (60 laps)
auto-moto.62vpoznanovic,
F1: British GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.640
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.764 0.124 0.124
3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:26.107 0.343 0.467
4. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:26.114 0.007 0.474
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:26.791 0.677 1.151
6. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:26.840 0.049 1.200
7. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:26.884 0.044 1.244
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:27.121 0.237 1.481
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.460 0.339 1.820
10. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.667 0.207 2.027
11. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:27.978 0.311 2.338
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:28.136 0.158 2.496
13. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.258 0.122 2.618
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:28.339 0.081 2.699
15. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:28.685 0.346 3.045
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:28.983 0.298 3.343
17. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:29.193 0.210 3.553
18. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:29.262 0.069 3.622
19. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:29.375 0.113 3.735
20. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:29.664 0.289 4.024
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:30.090 0.426 4.450
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:30.266 0.176 4.626
107% of fastest time: 1:31.635
auto-moto.63.dag.,
FedEx Championship Series Race No. 10
Medic Drug Grand Prix of Cleveland Presented by Star Bank
Cleveland, Ohio
Individual Practice Report (Friday AM Session) July 10, 1998
Pos. Driver Car# Car Config. LapTime LapSpeedB.Leader B.Prev.
1 Bryan Herta 8 RI/Ford Cos/F 57.391 132.104
2 Michael Andretti 6X SW/Ford Cos/G 57.918 130.902 0.527
3 Mark Blundell 18 RI/Mercedes/F 58.283 130.083 0.892 0.365
4 Gil de Ferran 5X RI/Honda/G 58.337 129.962 0.946 0.054
5 Christian Fittipaldi 11 SW/Ford Cos/G 58.810 128.917 1.419 0.473
6 Tony Kanaan 21 RI/Honda/F 58.906 128.707 1.515 0.096
7 Dario Franchitti 27 RI/Honda/F 58.976 128.554 1.585 0.070
8 Alex Zanardi 1 RI/Honda/F 58.992 128.519 1.601 0.016
9 Paul Tracy 26X RI/Honda/F 59.045 128.404 1.654 0.053
10 Richie Hearn 10 SW/Ford Cos/F 59.197 128.074 1.806 0.152
11 Bobby Rahal 7 RI/Ford Cos/F 59.205 128.057 1.814 0.008
12 Max Papis 25 RI/Toyota/F 59.236 127.990 1.845 0.031
auto-moto.64.dag.,
FedEx Championship Series Race No. 10
Medic Drug Grand Prix of Cleveland Presented by Star Bank
Cleveland, Ohio
Individual Qualifying Report (Friday PM Session) July 10, 1998
Pos. Driver Car# Car Config. LapTime LapSpeedB.Leader B.Prev.
1 Jimmy Vasser 12 RI/Honda/F 56.417 134.385
2 Bryan Herta 8 RI/Ford Cos/F 56.927 133.181 0.510
3 Dario Franchitti 27 RI/Honda/F 57.009 132.990 0.592 0.082
4 Alex Zanardi 1 RI/Honda/F 57.032 132.936 0.615 0.023
5 Mark Blundell 18 RI/Mercedes/F 57.039 132.920 0.622 0.007
6 Paul Tracy 26X RI/Honda/F 57.047 132.901 0.630 0.008
7 Michael Andretti 6 SW/Ford Cos/G 57.106 132.764 0.689 0.059
8 Mauricio Gugelmin 17 RI/Mercedes/F 57.334 132.236 0.917 0.228
9 Gil de Ferran 5 RI/Honda/G 57.355 132.187 0.938 0.021
10 Christian Fittipaldi 11 SW/Ford Cos/G 57.417 132.045 1.000 0.062
11 Greg Moore 99 RI/Mercedes/F 57.707 131.381 1.290 0.290
12 Bobby Rahal 7 RI/Ford Cos/F 57.729 131.331 1.312 0.022
auto-moto.65.dag.,
Vasser's Record Run Earns Him Provisional Pole
CART Online (July 10, 1998) -- Jimmy Vasser set a qualifying record for
the temporary road course at Burke Lakefront Airport Friday and earned the
provisional pole for the Medic Drug Grand Prix of Cleveland Presented by
Star Bank.
Vasser (Target Reynard Honda) averaged 134.385 miles per hour (56.417
seconds) on the 2.106-mile circuit, which is laid out on the airport
runways. He improved nearly four seconds from his best morning practice
lap of 60.383 seconds to put himself in position to collect his third pole
of the year and the seventh of his FedEx Championship Series career.
Final qualifying begins at 1:30 p.m. ET Saturday. The winner earns the
$10,000 Marlboro Pole Award, with the opportunity to pick up an additional
$255,000 in rollover bonus money with a victory Sunday. Including the
$100,000 winner's purse, the potential payout for a victory from the pole
this weekend is $365,000.
The Marlboro Pole Award rollover bonus has been accumulating at a rate of
$15,000 per event since defending series champion Alex Zanardi (Target
Reynard Honda) became the last driver to win from the pole, at Cleveland a
year ago.
Vasser is attempting to earn his first road-course pole position since
1996 at Cleveland. He topped Zanardi's track record speed of 133.048 mph
(56.984 seconds) by more than half a second.
Bryan Herta (Shell Reynard Ford) was second at 133.181 mph (56.927
seconds) followed by Dario Franchitti (KOOL Reynard Honda) at 132.990 mph
(57.009 seconds). Zanardi qualified fourth at 132.936 mph (57.032 seconds)
followed by Mark Blundell (Motorola PacWest Mercedes) at 132.920 mph
(57.039 seconds).
What They're Saying:
JIMMY VASSER, Target Reynard Honda: "We had some major problems in the
morning. We came with a setup that wasn't conducive to the circuit. You
could only get a few laps out of your tires before they started to go
away, but it wasn't so much the tires as it was the setup. Alex [Zanardi]
seemed to have a pretty good setup, so going into qualifying, we took most
of what Alex was doing and a little bit of what we were doing and threw
something at the car, and it worked fantastic. The cones were in some
tough places out there, but on my last lap, I really put one together, and
lo and behold, one of the cones was gone in an area where you could make
up a lot of speed. I was able to carry a lot of speed through there and
that made a difference. This is probably one of the more physical races
that we run. It's certainly fun, but it's one of the more difficult races
of the year."
BRYAN HERTA, Shell Reynard Ford: "I got a front row seat for that
[Vasser's provisional pole-winning lap]. I was following him, and my car
was still on a pretty good lap, but I could see that he was inching away
from me. I thought, 'Oh, he's gonna get me on that one,' and he did. Jimmy
really put a good one together. I think the car was pretty good this
morning, the track just got a little 'grippier' this afternoon. We're
gonna have to chase it down a little bit tomorrow."
DARIO FRANCHITTI, KOOL Reynard Honda: "It [the track] feels a little less
bumpy than last year, but because of that, what bumps there are are a lot
more important. We spent a lot of the afternoon trying to find a balance
over the bumps. The track got better as more rubber went down. Qualifying
was a bit frustrating because I felt that there was more time in the whole
package. But we're in a good group for tomorrow and we'll go back after it
then."
What's Noteworthy:
- Jimmy Vasser is chasing the seventh pole position of his FedEx
Championship Series career and his third of this season. Vasser's previous
poles this year came at Japan, where he was awarded the pole based on
having the best practice time following a rainout of qualifying, and at
Milwaukee. Vasser won four pole positions en route to the series
championship in 1996, but has not won one on a road or street circuit
since 1996 at Burke Lakefront Airport.
- Bryan Herta and Dario Franchitti continued their recent road course
qualifying success posting the second and third fastest times,
respectively, during Friday's provisional qualifying. Herta and Franchitti
qualified first and second, respectively, for the most recent FedEx
Championship Series event at Portland International Raceway last month.
- Bobby Rahal (Miller Lite Reynard Ford) qualified 12th provisionally
Friday with a best lap of 131.331 mph (57.729 sec). Three-time (1986, '87
and '92) series champion Rahal, whose first CART career victory came in
the series' inaugural event at Cleveland in 1982, is in his final season
as a FedEx Championship Series driver, dubbed "Rahal's Last Ride."
What's On Tap:
ESPN airs its "Midseason Pit Stop," a recap of the first half of the FedEx
Championship Series season, 2:30 p.m. ET Saturday. Qualifying for the
Medic Drug Grand Prix of Cleveland Presented by Star Bank will air 5:30
p.m. Saturday on ESPN2.
auto-moto.66vpoznanovic,
F1: British GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:23.639
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:24.233 0.594 0.594
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:24.260 0.027 0.621
4. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:24.496 0.236 0.857
5. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:24.683 0.187 1.044
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:24.791 0.108 1.152
7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:24.834 0.043 1.195
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:25.187 0.353 1.548
9. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:25.769 0.582 2.130
10. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:25.822 0.053 2.183
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:25.904 0.082 2.265
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:25.949 0.045 2.310
13. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:26.521 0.572 2.882
14. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:26.881 0.360 3.242
15. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:26.929 0.048 3.290
16. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:26.947 0.018 3.308
17. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:27.002 0.055 3.363
18. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:27.323 0.321 3.684
19. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:27.690 0.367 4.051
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.224 0.534 4.585
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.317 0.093 4.678
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.650 0.333 5.011
107% of fastest time: 1:29.494
auto-moto.67vpoznanovic,
F1: British GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:23.271
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:23.720 0.449 0.449
3. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:24.102 0.382 0.831
4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:24.310 0.208 1.039
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:24.436 0.126 1.165
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:24.442 0.006 1.171
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:24.542 0.100 1.271
8. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:25.081 0.539 1.810
9. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:25.084 0.003 1.813
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:25.164 0.080 1.893
11. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:25.654 0.490 2.383
12. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:25.760 0.106 2.489
13. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:26.376 0.616 3.105
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:26.487 0.111 3.216
15. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:26.808 0.321 3.537
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:26.847 0.039 3.576
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:26.948 0.101 3.677
18. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:26.990 0.042 3.719
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:27.061 0.071 3.790
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.051 0.990 4.780
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.123 0.072 4.852
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.608 0.485 5.337
107% of fastest time: 1:29.100
auto-moto.68tomislavr,
Koga zanima..
P. No Driver Team - Car Time/Laps
1. 8 HAKKINEN McLaren Mercedes 1'23"271 222.214 km/h
2. 3 M.SCHUM' Ferrari 1'23"720 + 0'00"449
3. 1 VILLENEUVE Williams Mecachro 1'24"102 + 0'00"831
4. 7 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes 1'24"310 + 0'01"039
5. 4 IRVINE Ferrari 1'24"436 + 0'01"165
6. 2 FRENTZEN Williams Mecachro 1'24"442 + 0'01"171
7. 9 HILL Jordan Mugen-Hond 1'24"542 + 0'01"271
8. 14 ALESI Sauber Petronas 1'25"081 + 0'01"810
9. 15 HERBERT Sauber Petronas 1'25"084 + 0'01"813
10. 10 R.SCHUM' Jordan Mugen-Hond 1'25"164 + 0'01"893
11. 5 FISICHELLA Benetton Playlife 1'25"654 + 0'02"383
12. 6 WURZ Benetton Playlife 1'25"760 + 0'02"489
13. 16 DINIZ Arrows TWR 1'26"376 + 0'03"105
14. 17 SALO Arrows TWR 1'26"487 + 0'03"216
15. 12 TRULLI Prost Peugeot 1'26"808 + 0'03"537
16. 11 PANIS Prost Peugeot 1'26"847 + 0'03"576
17. 19 VERSTAPPEN Stewart Ford 1'26"948 + 0'03"677
18. 18 BARRICHELLO Stewart Ford 1'26"990 + 0'03"719
19. 21 TAKAGI Tyrrell Ford 1'27"061 + 0'03"790
20. 23 TUERO Minardi Ford 1'28"051 + 0'04"780
21. 22 NAKANO Minardi Ford 1'28"123 + 0'04"852
22. 20 ROSSET Tyrrell Ford 1'28"608 + 0'05"337
auto-moto.69vpoznanovic,
F1: British GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:37.910
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:37.921 0.011 0.011
3. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:39.802 1.881 1.892
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:40.127 0.325 2.217
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:40.296 0.169 2.386
6. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:40.917 0.621 3.007
7. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:41.582 0.665 3.672
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:41.620 0.038 3.710
9. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:41.762 0.142 3.852
10. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:41.938 0.176 4.028
11. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:42.133 0.195 4.223
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:42.369 0.236 4.459
13. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:42.510 0.141 4.600
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:42.530 0.020 4.620
15. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:42.779 0.249 4.869
16. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:42.908 0.129 4.998
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:43.305 0.397 5.395
18. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:43.738 0.433 5.828
19. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:43.797 0.059 5.887
20. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:44.526 0.729 6.616
21. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:46.189 1.663 8.279
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:48.865 2.676 10.955
auto-moto.70vpoznanovic,
Schumacher je dobio 10 sekundi kazne zbog preticanja dok je safety
car bio na stazi.
F1: British GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:47:02.450
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B +22.400
3. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G +29.100
4. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
5. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G -1 lap
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G -1 lap
8. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B -2 laps
9. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G -4 laps
DNF Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G on lap 54
DNF Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B on lap 46
DNF Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 41
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B on lap 40
DNF Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B on lap 39
DNF David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B on lap 38
DNF Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 38
DNF Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 30
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 30
DNF Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G on lap 28
DNF Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B on lap 28
DNF Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G on lap 16
DNF Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G on lap 14
auto-moto.71vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after British GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 56
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 54
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 30
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 29
5. Alexandr Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
6. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 15
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 11
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 8
9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 3
Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 86
2. Ferrari I 83
3. Benetton-Playlife I 32
4. Williams-Mecachrome GB 19
5. Stewart-Ford GB 5
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 4
Arrows-TWR GB 4
8. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 1
auto-moto.72.dag.,
Zanardi ponovo pobedio! :> Druga titula je vec osigurana..
auto-moto.73.dag.,
During the mid-season break of the World Rally Championship, much
has happened that will decide the future of rallying in 1998 and 1999.
It's about this time of the year teams start to make moves of either
retaining the services of their current drivers, releasing one or both
and procuring new blood. The big talk leading up to Rally of New
Zealand is Colin McRae's move to Ford.
According to reliable sources Colin will drive the new Ford Focus in
the 1999 WRC. If he does leave, he will most certainly take his current
co-driver Nicky Grist with him to Ford. No one is quite sure what sort
of money tempted Colin away from Subaru, but it certainly must have been
substantial for the Scot. With Colin's exit and no word on Pierro Liatti's
future, the feeling is the spare seat at Subaru will be offered to
Richard Burns, who left the team for Mitsubishi at the end of 1995.
Following this, the spare seat at Mitsubishi is most likely to be
filled by Freddy Loix. Harry Rovanpera has been tipped for a WRC
drive, but with Seat in the development stages of their own WRC car
it's unlikely he'll leave without testing the new vehicle.
With Kankkunen contracted to the end of 1999 it's clear who will move
aside for Colin at Ford. Even on results alone, you would have to
pick Thiry. It has also been confirmed that Ari Vatanen will be
competing on this year's Neste Rally Finland in an M-Sport-prepared
Escort World Rally car. The ex-world champion replaced Bruno Thiry
earlier this year in the FIA World Rally Championship when the Belgian
driver was injured. Vatanen, from Finland has competed on his home
rally 19 times and won it twice.
TTE looks to be unchanged for 1999 with Sainz and Auriol both with
safe seats. Indeed Sainz has a vested interest in TTE and is tipped
to eventually take over from Ove Andersson once he believes his WRC
driving days are over.
auto-moto.74.dag.,
Toroto Results
ZANARDI WINS FOURTH IN-A-ROW
By Jim Murphy
Alex Zanardi overcame a spin, stopped cars blocking the track in front of him,
an pre-race engine change, and an ill-handling car to battle forward before
the final obstacle in the person of Michael Andretti stood between him and
victory. Approaching Turn 3 with just over 3 laps to go, Zanardi dove to the
inside of Michael Andretti and move into the lead of the Molson Indy Toronto
amidst a flurry of tire smoke and dust.
"I did everything today," Alex observed. "I spun, I got stuck into an
accident. I had problems with the tires first and with the brakes, and
everything. Yet here I am in between these two guys [on the podium], it's just
simply unbelievable. I had no brakes left at the front and I kept locking the
rears."
"It looked like Michael, who was the guy in front of me, had nothing left. It
wasn't me going super fast at the end but it was that he had nothing left to
compete with me."
"I made it pretty narrow," Andretti recalled. "There was maybe three inches on
each side of his tire going through there. I was throwing up a lot of dust
when he went there. He was all locked up and I was all locked up. He had the
advantage because I was on the inside. If I would have went any more over, I
think, because he was already committed there, we probably would have crashed
and I wasn't going to do that."
The race began in a much gentler fashion with polesitter Dario Franchitti
pacing the field for 76 of the first 79 laps before his brakes locked,
spinning him sideways across the exit of Turn Three. Sitting broadside in the
course, it was only a matter of time before he got collected by someone.
"What can I say? I just can't believe it," a stunned Franchitti said. "The
brakes were a worry all day. We had a similar problem in qualifying
yesterday."
Arnd Meier was the first car through the accident scene, and he dodged to
the right and passed cleanly. Michael Andretti was the next car through and he
went to the left. Although he was able to pass the stalled Franchitti for the
lead, his right rear tire contacted Franchitti's car fueling concerns that the
tire may have been punctured.
Zanardi's Target Chip Ganassi Teammate Jimmy Vasser came through next, only to
find the nose of Franchitti's car in his path.
"Tom Anderson [team manager] told me it was in Turn Three and I saw the
yellows. I just carried a little too much speed into there when I was rolling
across the concrete and I was on the concrete patch when we saw Dario."
Chip Ganassi came onto the radio for Zanardi and screamed "Go Right, Go
Right!", sending Zanardi cleanly past the accident scene and into second
place.
"Chip really won the race for me today, Alex said. "He came on the radio and
said 'Go Right, Go Right', so I braked a little early and stayed to the right
side and made it through."
Greeting Zanardi in Victory Lane after the race, Ganassi congratulated his
driver with only two words: "Go Right."
Paul Tracy wasn't as fortunate as Vasser and Andretti as he followed Zanardi
through, planting the nose of his Team KOOL Green Reynard firmly into the side
of his teammate's car.
"The marshal's weren't waving the flags very urgently, and they weren't
motioning me to move to the right," Tracy said after the race.
Finishing fourth in his final run was Bobby Rahal. Always a force on the
streets of Toronto, Rahal did little to disappoint the crowd that greeted him
enthusiastically before the race.
"It is a little sad to leave this place," Rahal said. "It's been good to me
over the years." In 13 starts, Rahal has 10 top-five finishes including a
victory in 1986.
Following his employer across the line in 5th was Bryan Herta. Qualifying
poorly, Herta moved through the field in a spirited charge from right from the
beginning of the race.
"The car was much better this morning in warm-up so I though we could move up
from 17th," Herta said. "The marbles were horrible today. It was so easy to
slide off the groove and lose a bunch of positions. We were able to run a
smart race by getting good restarts and good pit stops."
One driver that did not have a good pit stop was Tasman's Tony Kanaan.
Pitting on lap 62 while running 5th, Kanaan started to exit the pits while
the crew was still fighting to disconnect the fueling rig.
"The refueling equipment jammed and I was told to go before we were ready,"
Kanaan recalled. A fire erupted when fuel began to flow from the damaged fuel
hose, sending crew and firefighters into action. Kanaan was extracted from the
car and sprayed with water as he danced beside the car, apparently on fire.
"It is a shame this happened but the main thing is that everyone is okay," he
said.
Robby Gordon made his presence felt by passing 10 cars on the opening lap.
"We kind of caught some folks sleeping," Gordon remarked, "but with the
package we have we need to do things like that."
His Arciero-Wells stablemate Max Papis finished 8th. The result marks his
third straight points-paying finish and the best Toyota-powered finish on a
road course.
Two other front-runner that departed early from the race were Gil de Ferran
and Christian Fittipaldi. Exiting the pits on lap 25, de Ferran struck a tire
from the pitting car of Fittipaldi just ahead.
"We had a good stop and as I pulled out, the car kind of swung out and touched
Christian's left rear. I don't know if it was the wheel on the car or the one
they were going to put on."
The contact damaged the right-rear wishbone on de Ferran's car, ending his
day.
"I had no idea that de Ferran had run into my left rear tire," Fittipaldi
said. "The jacks went down and I took off and noticed a small vibration
immediately in the rear of the car. Then I noticed my crew waving at me which
is when I stopped and they pulled me back into my stall."
With the win, the fourth in a row which ties the CART record set in 1990 by
Al Unser Jr., Zanardi extends his PPG Cup points lead to 69 points over his
teammate Vasser who moves into second.
"I'm not going to apologize for the luck I'm having," Zanardi said. "I mean,
we're not up here playing cards, we're trying to win races. Things are just
going my way."
"Jimmy said he's going to follow me into the restroom to see if he can find
gold coins and diamonds in the place where I just sat."
Race Statistics
BOXSCORE
FedEx CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES RACE NO.11
Molson Indy Toronto
FIN STR CAR
POS POS NUM DRIVER/RESIDENCE
CAR
QUAL QUAL LAPS TOT
TIME SPEED LAPS STATUS PTS PTS
1 2 1 ALEX ZANARDI/Monte Carlo, Mon (ITA)
Target Reynard Honda (F)
58.694 105.480 95 87.274 mph 20 175
2 3 6 MICHAEL ANDRETTI/Nazareth, PA (USA)
Kmart/Texaco/Havoline Swift Ford (G)
58.748 105.461 95 01.921 16 84
3 6 12 JIMMY VASSER/Las Vegas, NV (USA)
Target Reynard Honda (F)
59.172 104.705 95 06.702 14 106
4 9 7 BOBBY RAHAL/New Albany, OH (USA)
Miller Lite Reynard Ford (F)
59.348 104.394 95 08.078 12 55
5 17 8 BRYAN HERTA/New Albany, OH (USA)
Shell Reynard Ford (F)
59.769 103.659 95 12.984 10 64
6 8 20 SCOTT PRUETT/Granite Bay, CA (USA)
Visteon Reynard Ford (F)
59.313 104.456 95 14.607 8 64
7 13 10 RICHIE HEARN/Henderson, NV (USA)
Budweiser-Ralphs Swift Ford (F)
59.514 104.103 95 15.305 6 26
8 20 25 MAX PAPIS/Rnch St Margarita (ITA)
MCI Racing Reynard Toyota (F)
60.186 102.941 95 24.676 5 8
9 16 40 ADRIAN FERNANDEZ/Paradise Vly, AZ (M)
Tecate-Quaker-Labatt Reynard Ford(F)
59.676 103.821 95 31.923 4 89
10 21 16 HELIO CASTRO-NEVES(R)/Sao Paulo, Brz
Alumax Reynard Mercedes (G)
60.195 102.925 95 32.693 3 32
11 12 99 GREG MOORE/Maple Ridge, BC (CAN)
Player's/Indeck Reynard Mercedes (F)
59.480 104.163 95 34.926 2 98
12 19 17 MAURICIO GUGELMIN/Ft Lauderdale, FL
Hollywood Reynard Mercedes (F)
60.049 103.176 95 37.640 1 17
13 22 24 ROBBY GORDON/Orange, CA
Panasonic Duskin Reynard Toyota (F)
60.534 102.349 94 RUNNING 0 6
14 10 26 PAUL TRACY/Parker, AZ (CAN)
KOOL Reynard Honda (F)
59.361 104.372 94 RUNNING 0 32
15 25 77 ARND MEIER/Spartanburg, SC (GER)
Hasseroder/J.A.G. Lola Ford (G)
60.808 101.888 94 RUNNING 0 1
16 5 11 CHRISTIAN FITTIPALDI/Key Biscayne, F
Kmart Swift Ford (G)
58.999 105.012 93 RUNNING 0 18
17 14 2 AL UNSER Jr./Albuquerque, NM (USA)
98 Marlboro Penske Mercedes (G)
59.534 104.068 93 RUNNING 0 40
18 24 19 MICHEL JOURDAIN JR./Mexico City, Mex
Herdez/Viva Mexico! Reynard Ford (F)
60.798 101.905 92 RUNNING 0 1
19 23 98 PJ JONES/Scotsdale, AZ (USA)
Castrol-Degree Reynard Toyota (G)
60.798 101.905 84 SUSPENSION 0 3
20 1 27 DARIO FRANCHITTI/Pompano Beach, FL (
KOOL Reynard Honda (F)
58.694 105.558 79 BRAKES M 2 66
21 28 34 GUALTER SALLES/Miami, FL (BRZ)
SmithKline Reynard Ford (F)
61.162 101.298 65 CONTACT 0 1
22 7 21 TONY KANAAN(R)/Miami, FL (BRZ)
LCI Reynard Honda (F)
59.185 104.682 61 FIRE 0 39
23 11 3 ANDRE RIBEIRO/Sao Paulo, Brazil (BRZ
98 Marlboro Penske Mercedes (G)
59.416 104.275 54 GEARBOX 0 4
24 26 9 JJ LEHTO(R)/Monte Carlo (FIN)
Hogan Motor Leasing Reynard MB (F)
60.957 101.639 37 CONTACT 0 7
25 18 33 PATRICK CARPENTIER/Indianapolis, IN
Player's Indeck Reynard Mercedes (F)
59.834 103.546 33 SUSPENSION 0 12
26 15 18 MARK BLUNDELL/Scottsdale, AZ (ENG)
Motorola Reynard Mercedes (F)
59.668 103.835 30 ELECTRICAL 0 19
27 4 5 GIL DE FERRAN/Ft Lauderdale, FL (BRZ
Valvoline/Cummins Reynard Honda (G)
58.862 105.256 26 SUSPENSION 0 63
28 27 36 ALEX BARRON(R)/Vista, CA (USA)
Castrol-Degree Reynard Toyota (G)
61.035 101.509 25 SUSPENSION 0 1
ENGINE LEGEND: Ford=Ford-Cosworth; M-B=Mercedes-Benz;
CHASSIS LEGEND: Swift=Swift 007.i
(R) Rookie driver
M = Marlboro Pole Award ($10,000)
TIME OF RACE: 1:52:24.080
AVERAGE SPEED: 87.274 mph
CAUTION FLAGS:
Laps 25-29, Contact Multiple Cars
Laps 33-34, Contact Car #98
Laps 40-43, Contact Car #9
Laps 79-83, Car #27 Spun
LAP LEADERS: 6 lead changes, 6 drivers
Dario Franchitti, 1-65 65 Laps
Bobby Rahal, 66 1 Lap
Bryan Herta, 67 1 Lap
Christian Fittipaldi, 68 1 Lap
Dario Franchitti, 69-79 11 Laps
Michael Andretti, 80-92 13 Laps
Alex Zanardi, 93-95 3 Laps
TOTALS:
Dario Franchitti 76 laps
Michael Andretti 13 laps
Alex Zanardi 3 laps
Christian Fittipaldi 1 laps
Bobby Rahal 1 laps
Bryan Herta 1 laps
Nation's Cup
Rank Name Points
Overall Oval Road
---- ------------------------------- -----------------------
1 United States 181 108 73
2 Italy 175 72 103
3 Canada 114 85 29
4 Brazil 114 66 48
5 Mexico 90 48 42
6 Scotland 66 22 44
7 England 19 10 9
8 Finland 7 7 0
9 Germany 1 0 1
10 Japan 0 0 0
Manufacturer's Cup
Rank Name Points
Overall Oval Road
---- ------------------------------- -----------------------
1 Honda Turbo V8 214 107 107
2 Ford Cosworth XD 172 92 80
3 Mercedes-Benz IC 108E 135 99 36
4 Toyota 18 8 10
Constructor's Cup
Rank Name Points
Overall Oval Road
---- ------------------------------- -----------------------
1 Reynard 233 123 110
2 Swift 009.c 98 60 38
3 Penske 40 30 10
4 Lola T-9800 1 0 1
Rookie of the Year
Rank Name Points
Overall Oval Road
---- ------------------------------- -----------------------
1 Tony Kanaan 39 12 27
2 Helio Castro-Neves 32 24 8
3 J J Lehto 7 7 0
4 Alex Barron 1 1 0
Pole Positions
Rank Name Points
Overall Oval Road
---- ------------------------------- -----------------------
1 Greg Moore 3 2 1
2 Bryan Herta 2 0 2
2 Jimmy Vasser 2 1 1
2 Dario Franchitti 2 1 1
2 Patrick Carpentier 2 2 0
1998 FedEx CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES DRIVER PERFORMANCE CHART
FOLLOWING THE EVENT OF SUNDAY JULY 19, 1998
RUN
AT TOP TMS LAPS LAPS MILES
RANK DRIVER PTS STS FIN FIN LED LED COMP COMP
(1613)(2406.991)
---- ----------------------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- ---- -------- -
1 ALEX ZANARDI 175 11 10 1 13 387 1531 2274.975
2 JIMMY VASSER 106 11 11 1 8 215 1612 2400.021
3 GREG MOORE 98 11 9 1 7 127 1415 2002.366
4 ADRIAN FERNANDEZ 89 11 8 1 6 103 1271 1979.496
5 MICHAEL ANDRETTI 84 11 8 1 7 327 1269 2023.353
6 DARIO FRANCHITTI 66 11 6 2 5 107 1147 1805.338
7 SCOTT PRUETT 64 11 8 2 1 2 1366 2103.011
8 BRYAN HERTA 64 11 7 3 8 89 1291 1947.422
9 GIL DE FERRAN 63 11 6 3 5 95 1310 1940.338
10 BOBBY RAHAL 55 11 10 4 1 1 1591 2367.718
11 AL UNSER Jr. 40 11 5 2 3 34 1363 2006.606
12 TONY KANAAN 39 11 7 4 0 0 1158 1720.217
13 HELIO CASTRO-NEVES 32 11 7 2 3 17 1219 1812.618
14 PAUL TRACY 32 11 5 5 2 30 1024 1482.017
15 RICHIE HEARN 26 11 7 6 3 27 1170 1760.800
16 MARK BLUNDELL 19 11 7 7 0 0 1335 1990.988
17 CHRISTIAN FITTIPALDI 18 10 6 4 2 22 1066 1597.433
18 MAURICIO GUGELMIN 17 11 7 7 0 0 1422 2159.668
19 PATRICK CARPENTIER 12 11 6 9 2 26 1199 1836.928
20 MAX PAPIS 8 11 7 8 0 0 1216 1792.559
21 JJ LEHTO 7 11 5 9 1 5 1060 1444.542
22 ROBBY GORDON 6 7 4 7 0 0 806 1095.315
23 ANDRE RIBEIRO 4 10 4 9 1 1 1059 1673.810
24 PJ JONES 3 11 6 11 0 0 1223 1828.307
25 MICHEL JOURDAIN JR. 1 11 5 12 0 0 1172 1643.205
26 GUALTER SALLES 1 4 2 12 0 0 456 748.159
27 ARND MEIER 1 11 7 12 0 0 1074 1730.356
28 ALEX BARRON 1 9 7 12 0 0 1010 1691.590
29 HIRO MATSUSHITA 0 4 3 15 0 0 536 867.662
30 ROBERTO MORENO 0 3 1 15 0 0 284 407.580
31 MIMMO SCHIATTARELLA 0 1 0 16 0 0 101 158.974
32 DENNIS VITOLO 0 6 1 18 0 0 248 432.998
33 HIDESHI MATSUDA 0 1 1 18 0 0 185 286.565
auto-moto.75vpoznanovic,
Austrian Grand Prix 1998
from A-1 Ring, Zeltweg, Austria
24th July 1998 - 26th July 1998
Friday, July 24th
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, July 25th
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, July 26th
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (71 laps)
auto-moto.76.dag.,
Villeneuve zvanicno u BAR-u.. kazu, mozda ce mu teammate biti Dario
Franchitti.. Zanardi onda najverovatnije ide u Williams..
auto-moto.77.dag.,
Najzad malo pravde.. ako sve prodje po planu ovo Alezi dobija.. ;)
auto-moto.78vpoznanovic,
F1: Austrian GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:13.703
2. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:13.704 0.001 0.001
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:13.746 0.042 0.043
4. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:14.103 0.357 0.400
5. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:14.302 0.199 0.599
6. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:14.397 0.095 0.694
7. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:14.411 0.014 0.708
8. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:14.523 0.112 0.820
9. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:14.535 0.012 0.832
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:14.627 0.092 0.924
11. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:14.685 0.058 0.982
12. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:14.755 0.070 1.052
13. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:14.820 0.065 1.117
14. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:15.117 0.297 1.414
15. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:15.158 0.041 1.455
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:15.231 0.073 1.528
17. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:15.345 0.114 1.642
18. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:15.696 0.351 1.993
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:16.171 0.475 2.468
20. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:16.303 0.132 2.600
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:16.582 0.279 2.879
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:18.469 1.887 4.766
107% of fastest time: 1:18.862
auto-moto.79vpoznanovic,
F1: Austrian GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:11.655
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:11.819 0.164 0.164
3. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:12.569 0.750 0.914
4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:12.673 0.104 1.018
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:12.690 0.017 1.035
6. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:12.789 0.099 1.134
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:13.010 0.221 1.355
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:13.074 0.064 1.419
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:13.259 0.185 1.604
10. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:13.354 0.095 1.699
11. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:13.396 0.042 1.741
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:13.421 0.025 1.766
13. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:13.671 0.250 2.016
14. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:13.730 0.059 2.075
15. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:13.802 0.072 2.147
16. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:13.887 0.085 2.232
17. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:13.966 0.079 2.311
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:13.999 0.033 2.344
19. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:14.070 0.071 2.415
20. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:14.351 0.281 2.696
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:14.738 0.387 3.083
22. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:14.906 0.168 3.251
107% of fastest time: 1:16.671
auto-moto.80vpoznanovic,
F1: Austrian GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:29.598
2. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:30.317 0.719 0.719
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:30.517 0.200 0.919
4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:30.551 0.034 0.953
5. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:31.005 0.454 1.407
6. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:31.028 0.023 1.430
7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:31.515 0.487 1.917
8. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:31.651 0.136 2.053
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:31.917 0.266 2.319
10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:32.081 0.164 2.483
11. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:32.083 0.002 2.485
12. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:32.099 0.016 2.501
13. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:32.206 0.107 2.608
14. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:32.399 0.193 2.801
15. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:32.718 0.319 3.120
16. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:32.906 0.188 3.308
17. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:33.185 0.279 3.587
18. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:33.205 0.020 3.607
19. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:33.399 0.194 3.801
20. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:34.090 0.691 4.492
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:34.536 0.446 4.938
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:34.910 0.374 5.312
107% of fastest time: 1:35.870
auto-moto.81junior,
> F1: Austrian GP Saturday qualifying
Kako šašav poredak. Pa šta je bilo? Jel' padala kiša?
auto-moto.82.dag.,
Mark my words.. ovaj Ayari ce za par godina da bude sampion formule 1..
auto-moto.83vpoznanovic,
F1: Austrian GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:13.301
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:13.602 0.301 0.301
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:14.307 0.705 1.006
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:14.350 0.043 1.049
5. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:14.474 0.124 1.173
6. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:14.480 0.006 1.179
7. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:14.881 0.401 1.580
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:14.941 0.060 1.640
9. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:14.942 0.000 1.641
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:15.086 0.144 1.785
11. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:15.097 0.011 1.796
12. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:15.162 0.065 1.861
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:15.368 0.206 2.067
14. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:15.376 0.008 2.075
15. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:15.574 0.198 2.273
16. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:15.638 0.064 2.337
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:15.702 0.064 2.401
18. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:15.788 0.086 2.487
19. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:16.006 0.218 2.705
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:16.142 0.136 2.841
21. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:16.159 0.017 2.858
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:16.309 0.150 3.008
auto-moto.84vpoznanovic,
>> Kako šašav poredak. Pa šta je bilo? Jel' padala kiša?
Ćuj, padala... ;) Pravi potopski pljusak, glasila bi slikovita
interpretacija jednog našeg novinara... ;))
Urnebesne kvalifikacije... Ovako su ih opisali momci sa Gale Forcea...
Fisichella takes pole in the wet
[Austrian Grand Prix - Qualifying - 25 July 98-14h00 CET] Today's
single Qualifying session for the Austrian Grand Prix turned out to be
one of the most exciting sessions for a long time. After two Free
Practice sessions in the dry, one hour before Qualifying the heavens
opened, it rained and rained and rained. Despite rumours that the
session would be delayed, it got under way on time at 13h00 CET. Well
the session started, but nothing else did. For 27 minutes the teams
waited. Most drivers were kitted up and sitting in their cars - most
had no wheels on. Some were taking the opportunity to be interviewed.
The rain continued to pour.
First out on track was Takagi, followed closely by Hill. Half way
around the flooded track Takagi spins, Hill passes and continues on to
set the first lap of the session, 1m 35.618s. Takagi came in 6s slower
and then spun off into the gravel. They returned to the pits as
Verstappen came out. He also took a trip over the gravel, but returned
to the track.
40 minutes into the session Alesi had just crossed the line and became
only the 10th driver to record a time so far. At this moment the pole
was at 1m 34.457s and the top ten were: (1) M.Schumacher, (2)
Frentzen, (3) R.Schumacher, (4) Hill, (5) Alesi, (6) Verstappen, (7)
Takagi, (8) Diniz, (9) Irvine, (10) Tuero.
M.Schumacher had set his pole in the 39th minute. Here's what happend
to it next:
41m - 1m 33.843s - J. Alesi
42m - 1m 33.088s - E. Irvine
42m - 1m 31.697s - M. Schumacher
44m - 1m 30.630s - M. Schumacher
59m - 1m 30.317s - J. Alesi
61m - 1m 29.598s - G. Fisichella
As a dry line started to appear, positions were changing with every
lap. In the next 5 minutes Villeneuve moved into 6th, Alesi took pole,
Irvine took pole, M.Schumacher took pole, Villeneuve took 4th,
R.Schumacher took 4th, Coulthard took 3rd, Hakkinen took 3rd, then
Villeneuve spun off into the gravel and took a bike back to the pits.
In the next 10 minutes Coulthard took 2nd, Herbert took 5th, only 16
cars were within the 107%, Fisichella took 3rd, Nakano retires on the
grass, Villeneuve returns with the spare car, Fisichella crosses the
gravel, Frentzen takes 2nd, Hill takes 5th, R.Schumacher takes 2nd,
and Panis crosses the gravel.
With 5 minutes of the session left the top ten were: (1) M.Schumacher,
(2) R.Schumacher, (3) Frentzen, (4) Coulthard, (5) Fisichella, (6)
Hill, (7) Irvine, (8) Hakkinen, (9) Herbert, (10) Alesi.
In the last 5 minutes M.Schumacher runs over the grass, Barrichello
takes 3rd, Verstappen takes 3rd, Diniz takes 5th, Alesi takes 2nd,
Fisichella takes 3rd, Barrichello takes 2nd, Hakkinen takes 4th and
Alesi takes pole.
At 14h00 the flag comes out to signal the end of the session. The cars
left on track complete their final lap. Frentzen takes 5th, Hakkinen
takes 3rd, Fisichello takes pole and Salo takes 6th.
The final top ten are: (1) Fisichella, (2) Alesi, (3) Hakkinen, (4)
M.Schumacher, (5) Barrichello, (6) Salo, (7) Frentzen, (8) Irvine, (9)
R.Schumacher, (10) Panis. Poor David Coulthard ended up 14th on the
grid behind Diniz and in front of Hill. World Champion Jacques
Villeneuve is 11th.
Performance around the track was very varied: Alesi was quickest
through the first section, but R.Schumacher had the fastest exit speed
(254kph). For the second section it was Fisichella and Hakkinen
(249kph) and for the third it was M.Schumacher and Hakkinen (253kph).
One second covers the first 4 places and two seconds covers the first
7.
In the interview afterwards a glowing Fisichella discussed his first
F1 pole. He said that he had been happy with his dry setup and not
very confident about a good position when he saw the rain in
qualifying. He said that he likes the rain and is hoping for the same
conditions in the race. When asked about having Hakkinen and
Schumacher behind him, he said he was not worried as he had the pole.
He was very happy for Alesi to also be on the front row and after some
jovial prompting from Mika, he said he was also happy for Hakkinen's
third.
Alesi said he was very happy to have scored the best ever grid
position for Sauber, especially after the problems they had had in the
British Grand Prix.
When Hakkinen was asked if he was glad to be third with M.Schumacher
and Coulthard behind him, he said no, he always wants to be first. He
said that the conditions had been much worse than he had expected and
he found it difficult to find the confidence for hard braking in the
corners. When asked if he felt he could overtake the two in front, he
said overtaking was always difficult in Formula 1 and against the
experienced Alesi and Fisichella on a high from his pole position, he
felt it would be very difficult tomorrow.
auto-moto.85.dag.,
Moram da priznam.. MS me nije razocarao. ;))
auto-moto.86vpoznanovic,
F1: Austrian GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:30:44.086
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B +5.289
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G +39.093
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G +43.977
5. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +50.655
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G +53.202
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +1:13.624
8. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
9. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
10. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B -1 lap
11. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B -1 lap
12. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G -2 laps
DNF Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B on lap 52
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 31
DNF Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G on lap 22
DNF Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B on lap 22
DNF Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G on lap 17
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B on lap 9
DNF Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B on lap 4
DNF Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B on lap 2
DNF Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 1
DNF Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 1
auto-moto.87vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Austrian GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 66
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 58
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 36
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 32
5. Alexandr Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
6. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 15
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 12
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 8
9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 3
Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 3
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 102
2. Ferrari I 90
3. Benetton-Playlife I 32
4. Williams-Mecachrome GB 20
5. Stewart-Ford GB 5
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 4
Arrows-TWR GB 4
8. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 3
auto-moto.88junior,
> 2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes /B +5.289
Najveći.
auto-moto.89.dag.,
Troje ljudi poginulo na trci u Micigenu, Moore pobedio ispred Vassera i
Zanardija. Novi Handfort device ce potpuno da upropasti 500 mile trke --
ovako CART pocinje da lici na NASCAR..
Rank Driver pts
---- -------------------- ---
1 Alex Zanardi 190
2 Jimmy Vasser 122
3 Greg Moore 118
4 Michael Andretti 92
5 Adrian Fernandez 90
6 Scott Pruett 76
7 Bryan Herta 67
8 Dario Franchitti 66
9 Gil de Ferran 63
10 Bobby Rahal 61
11 Tony Kanaan 41
12 Al Unser Jr. 40
13 Paul Tracy 36
14 Richie Hearn 36
15 Helio Castro-Neves 33
16 Mark Blundell 19
17 Christian Fittipaldi 18
18 Mauricio Gugelmin 17
19 Patrick Carpentier 17
20 Max Papis 8
auto-moto.90.dag.,
July 26, 1998
Tragedy Strikes At Michigan
THREE KILLED, SIX INJURED
AS TIRE FLIES INTO TURN FOUR GRANDSTAND AT MICHIGAN
What might be described as the best Champ car race in the history of the
Michigan Speedway will also be remembered for a tragic accident, which
claimed the lives of three race fans and injured six others.
On Lap 175, Paul Tracy passed Adrian Fernandez on the inside, between
Turns three and four. When Tracy got around, the pass took away the air on
the front of the Fernandez's car, causing him to move up into the marbles
on the race track and hit the wall.
The contact caused the right front tire to fly straight up into the air,
along with debris. The tire and debris flew over the 15 feet of wall and
debris fencing, some 10 to 12 rows deep into the grandstand.
Michigan Speedway Medical Director Dr. Greg Baumann reported three
fatalities and six other spectator injuries in the Turn 4 grandstands from
the airborne wheel and other debris.
Dr. Baumann noted that two of the victims died instantly from their
injuries, while the third was transported to the Michigan Speedway care
center, located behind the grandstands, and died after resucitation
efforts.
It was the first fan fatalities at the track since 1969, but the first
since Penske Speedways purchased the facility in the eearly 1970s.
Fernandez sustained bruises to the insides of both knees. He was treated
with ice and released.
"Paul (Tracy) came to the inside and took my air in Turn Three," Fernandez
explained. "The whole car lost downforce and I just went up into the gray
and hit the wall."
The tragedy dampened the spirits of the drivers and participants.
"I can only express the deep sorrow felt by everyone within the CART
community," said CART Chairman and CEO Andrew Craig. "There is, of course,
nothing that we can say or do that in any way will reduce the deep sadness
felt by the families and friends of the victims, but, on behalf of all of
us at CART, I extend my heartfelt sympathies."
auto-moto.91vpoznanovic,
German Grand Prix 1998
from Hockenheim, Germany
31st July 1998 - 2nd August 1998
Friday, July 31st
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, August 1st
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, August 2nd
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (45 laps)
auto-moto.92vpoznanovic,
F1: German GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:43.946
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:44.138 0.192 0.192
3. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:44.294 0.156 0.348
4. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:44.546 0.252 0.600
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:44.757 0.211 0.811
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:44.780 0.023 0.834
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:44.928 0.148 0.982
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:45.186 0.258 1.240
9. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:45.364 0.178 1.418
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:45.511 0.147 1.565
11. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:45.611 0.100 1.665
12. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:45.943 0.332 1.997
13. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:46.005 0.062 2.059
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:46.163 0.158 2.217
15. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:46.257 0.094 2.311
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:46.484 0.227 2.538
17. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:46.743 0.259 2.797
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:46.903 0.160 2.957
19. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:47.086 0.183 3.140
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:48.175 1.089 4.229
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:48.832 0.657 4.886
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:49.986 1.154 6.040
107% of fastest time: 1:51.222
auto-moto.93.dag.,
˙─¨ 2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:44.138 0.192
Kazu da je mladi Dejv postigao vise od 356kmh... opako, nema sta.
auto-moto.94senna,
Sad si odro shvabu Dejmoneeee.. ;)
auto-moto.95vpoznanovic,
F1: German GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:43.006
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:43.175 0.169 0.169
3. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:43.444 0.269 0.438
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:43.746 0.302 0.740
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:44.084 0.338 1.078
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:44.114 0.030 1.108
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:44.129 0.015 1.123
8. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:44.399 0.270 1.393
9. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:44.655 0.256 1.649
10. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:45.038 0.383 2.032
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:45.153 0.115 2.147
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:45.343 0.190 2.337
13. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:45.533 0.190 2.527
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:45.535 0.002 2.529
15. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:45.537 0.002 2.531
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:46.543 1.006 3.537
17. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:46.677 0.134 3.671
18. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:47.366 0.689 4.360
19. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:48.128 0.762 5.122
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:48.299 0.171 5.293
21. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:48.652 0.353 5.646
107% of fastest time: 1:50.216
auto-moto.96vpoznanovic,
F1: German GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:41.838
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:42.347 0.509 0.509
3. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:42.365 0.018 0.527
4. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:42.994 0.629 1.156
5. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:43.183 0.189 1.345
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:43.270 0.087 1.432
7. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:43.341 0.071 1.503
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:43.369 0.028 1.531
9. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:43.459 0.090 1.621
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:43.467 0.008 1.629
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:43.663 0.196 1.825
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:44.599 0.936 2.761
13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:44.776 0.177 2.938
14. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:44.844 0.068 3.006
15. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:44.961 0.117 3.123
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:45.197 0.236 3.359
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:45.276 0.079 3.438
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:45.588 0.312 3.750
19. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:45.623 0.035 3.785
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:46.713 1.090 4.875
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:47.265 0.552 5.427
107% of fastest time: 1:48.967
auto-moto.97.dag.,
─┼Î 11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:43.663
─┼Î 12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:44.599
0.936 sekundi razlike -- razlika u klasi, zna se..
auto-moto.98vpoznanovic,
F1: German GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:44.812
2. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:45.271 0.459 0.459
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:45.691 0.420 0.879
4. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:45.741 0.050 0.929
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:46.002 0.261 1.190
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:46.035 0.033 1.223
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:46.460 0.425 1.648
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:46.513 0.053 1.701
9. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:46.936 0.423 2.124
10. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:46.988 0.052 2.176
11. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:47.003 0.015 2.191
12. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:47.188 0.185 2.376
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:47.279 0.091 2.467
14. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:47.461 0.182 2.649
15. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:47.588 0.127 2.776
16. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:47.878 0.290 3.066
17. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:48.133 0.255 3.321
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:48.496 0.363 3.684
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:48.572 0.076 3.760
20. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:48.961 0.389 4.149
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:49.001 0.040 4.189
auto-moto.99vpoznanovic,
F1: German GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20:47.984
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B +0.427
3. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G +2.578
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +7.185
5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G +12.613
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +29.739
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B +31.027
8. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G +31.650
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G +32.785
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G +48.372
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B +57.995
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B -1 lap
13. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G -1 lap
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B -1 lap
15. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B -1 lap
16. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B -2 laps
DNF Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G on lap 38
DNF Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B on lap 37
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B on lap 28
DNF Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B on lap 25
DNF Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B on lap 3
auto-moto.100vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after German GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 76
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 60
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 42
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 32
5. Alexandr Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 16
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 15
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 8
9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 4
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 3
Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 3
14. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 118
2. Ferrari I 92
3. Benetton-Playlife I 32
4. Williams-Mecachrome GB 24
5. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 7
6. Stewart-Ford GB 5
7. Sauber-Petronas CH 4
Arrows-TWR GB 4
auto-moto.101junior,
> F1: Standings after German GP
Gotovo prvenstvo.
Kad Šumi u Nemačkoj ništa nije uradio, teško da će nešto i u Monzi,
tj. možda će biti 3. da se baš usreći.
Mika je izgubio i najvećeg konkurenta za bodove - Kultarda, pošto je
ovaj izjavio kako vidi da nema šanse za šampionat, i da neće ni pokušavati
da ga prestigne, te sad bukvalno nema ko da ga stigne.
Možda u Mađarskoj, ako Ferrari nešto ućari (ovi izlete, ili tako nešto..)
inače, kraj.
BTW, zna li neko šta se juče desilo sa Ralfom? Mali je stiskao one
Mclarene, totalno šašavo. :) Sećam se, prolazi Ralf pored boxa, negde u
osmom, devetom krugu, i samo vidiš na tabli (iz boxa) piše - "Ralf, PUSH!"
;) Ja sam se odvalio ...
auto-moto.102vector,
─┼Î BTW, zna li neko sta se juce desilo sa Ralfom? Mali je stiskao one
─┼Î Mclarene, totalno sasavo. :) Secam se, prolazi Ralf pored boxa, negde u
─┼Î osmom, devetom krugu, i samo vidis na tabli (iz boxa) pise - "Ralf,
─┼Î PUSH!"
..da, i u krugu odmah posle tog vidis na istoj tabli znak da treba
da udje u boks. ;)
auto-moto.103senna,
>BTW, zna li neko sta se juce desilo sa Ralfom? Mali je stiskao one
>Mclarene, totalno sasavo. :) Secam se, prolazi Ralf pored boxa, negde u
>osmom, devetom krugu, i samo vidis na tabli (iz boxa) pise - "Ralf,
>PUSH!"
Pa imo je manje goriva, zato ih je i drzao onako.. Posle se zaglavio
iza Frencena, pa je mogo da se slika.
auto-moto.104rades,
Jel Hungaroring 16-tog?
auto-moto.105vector,
Na kvalifikacijama za Mid-Ohio najbrzi je bio Dario Franchitti,
Vasser drugi, a Herta treci.. Zanardi tek negde oko 13. mesta.
auto-moto.106vector,
Adrian Fernandez je pobedio na danasnjoj trci u Mih-Ohaju ispred
Pruetta. Trka je bila prepuna nepotrebnih incidenata.. inace, Zanardi
je zavrsio na 12. mestu -- ocigledno bolid nije bio dobar danas, ali
bice bolje vec u Elkart lejku 16. avgusta.
Kako ni Vasser ni Moore nisu zavrsili trku situacija sa poenima je
ista kao i pre ove trke:
Rank Driver pts
---- -------------------- ---
1 Alex Zanardi 190
2 Jimmy Vasser 122
3 Greg Moore 118
auto-moto.107vector,
─┼Î Jel Hungaroring 16-tog?
Jeste.
auto-moto.108vector,
─┼Î 1 Alex Zanardi 190
─┼Î 3 Greg Moore 118
Btw, obojica su kaznjena sa $50,000: Moore zbog gluposti koju je
napravio u boksu, a Zanardi zbog agresivne voznje (izazvao je incident
koji je prouzrokovao ono prevrtanje Andrettija i izbacio Nevesa iz
trke -- mada, po mom misljenju Helio je pogresio sto se nije sklonio
vec je krivinu pokusao da prodje side-by-side sa Zanardijem).
auto-moto.109vpoznanovic,
Hungarian Grand Prix 1998
from Hungaroring, Budapest, Hungary
14th August 1998 - 16th August 1998
Friday, August 14th
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, August 15th
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, August 16th
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (77 laps)
auto-moto.110vpoznanovic,
F1: Hungarian GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:19.989
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20.186 0.197 0.197
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:20.439 0.253 0.450
4. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:20.441 0.002 0.452
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:20.778 0.337 0.789
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:20.779 0.001 0.790
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.110 0.331 1.121
8. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:21.198 0.088 1.209
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:21.218 0.020 1.229
10. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:21.414 0.196 1.425
11. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.571 0.157 1.582
12. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:21.903 0.332 1.914
13. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.990 0.087 2.001
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:22.145 0.155 2.156
15. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:22.297 0.152 2.308
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:22.442 0.145 2.453
17. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.940 0.498 2.951
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:23.261 0.321 3.272
19. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:23.450 0.189 3.461
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:23.671 0.221 3.682
107% of fastest time: 1:25.588
21. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:25.611 1.940 5.622
22. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:25.700 0.089 5.711
auto-moto.111vpoznanovic,
F1: Hungarian GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:17.337
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:17.495 0.158 0.158
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:18.588 1.093 1.251
4. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:18.792 0.204 1.455
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.016 0.224 1.679
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:19.091 0.075 1.754
7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.107 0.016 1.770
8. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:19.183 0.076 1.846
9. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:19.252 0.069 1.915
10. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:19.286 0.034 1.949
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.449 0.163 2.112
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.800 0.351 2.463
13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:19.936 0.136 2.599
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:20.552 0.616 3.215
15. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:20.589 0.037 3.252
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:20.883 0.294 3.546
17. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.920 0.037 3.583
18. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:21.373 0.453 4.036
19. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.585 0.212 4.248
20. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:21.634 0.049 4.297
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.008 0.374 4.671
107% of fastest time: 1:22.751
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:23.279 1.271 5.942
auto-moto.112vpoznanovic,
F1: Hungarian GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:16.973
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:17.131 0.158 0.158
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:17.366 0.235 0.393
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:18.214 0.848 1.241
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:18.325 0.111 1.352
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:18.337 0.012 1.364
7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.029 0.692 2.056
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:19.050 0.021 2.077
9. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:19.063 0.013 2.090
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:19.171 0.108 2.198
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.210 0.039 2.237
12. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:19.706 0.496 2.733
13. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:19.712 0.006 2.739
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:19.876 0.164 2.903
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:19.878 0.002 2.905
16. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.042 0.164 3.069
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:20.198 0.156 3.225
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:20.354 0.156 3.381
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:20.635 0.281 3.662
20. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.663 0.028 3.690
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:21.725 1.062 4.752
107% of fastest time: 1:22.361
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:23.140 1.415 6.167
auto-moto.113vpoznanovic,
F1: Hungarian GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:18.694
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:19.555 0.861 0.861
3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.967 0.412 1.273
4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:20.325 0.358 1.631
5. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:20.385 0.060 1.691
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:20.580 0.195 1.886
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:20.906 0.326 2.212
8. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:20.935 0.029 2.241
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.334 0.399 2.640
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.441 0.107 2.747
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.799 0.358 3.105
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.920 0.121 3.226
13. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.924 0.004 3.230
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.095 0.171 3.401
15. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:22.119 0.024 3.425
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:22.344 0.225 3.650
17. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:22.704 0.360 4.010
18. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.961 0.257 4.267
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.991 0.030 4.297
20. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:23.231 0.240 4.537
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:23.685 0.454 4.991
auto-moto.114vpoznanovic,
F1: Hungarian GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:45:25.550
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B +9.433
3. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G +44.444
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +55.075
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G +56.510
6. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B -1 lap
7. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G -1 lap
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
11. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B -3 laps
12. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B -3 laps
13. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B -3 laps
14. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G -3 laps
15. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B -3 laps
DNF Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B on lap 70
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B on lap 55
DNF Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 29
DNF Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B on lap 19
DNF Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G on lap 14
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 14
auto-moto.115vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Hungarian GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 77
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 70
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 48
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 32
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 20
6. Alexandr Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 15
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 10
9. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 6
10. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 4
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 3
Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
14. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 125
2. Ferrari I 102
3. Benetton-Playlife I 32
4. Williams-Mecachrome GB 30
5. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 10
6. Stewart-Ford GB 5
7. Sauber-Petronas CH 4
Arrows-TWR GB 4
auto-moto.116junior,
> 1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:45:25.550
Ko kaže da je u formuli najvažniji dobar bolid i dobar motor.
Najbolji tim, najbolja taktika i najbolji vozač su sasvim dovoljni ;)
Onako lepu vožnju stvarno dugo nisam video. A kad ga je obišao za
krug, šteta što nije finger izbacio ..;)
auto-moto.117senna,
>Ko kaze da je u formuli najvazniji dobar bolid i dobar motor.
>
>Najbolji tim, najbolja taktika i najbolji vozac su sasvim dovoljni ;)
Bla bla bla bla bla.. Taktika bi im komotno propala da Hakinen nije
imao probleme.
auto-moto.118junior,
> Bla bla bla bla bla.. Taktika bi im komotno propala da
> Hakinen nije imao probleme.
Bla bla bla bla ..
Ubuduće sa više poštovanja da govoriš o trećem najuspešnijem vozaču
Formule 1 svih vremena.
auto-moto.119senna,
>Ubuduce sa vise postovanja da govoris o trecem najuspesnijem vozacu
>Formule 1 svih vremena.
Daleko je on od treceg najboljeg svih vremena.. Pobede su jedno,
titule su drugo, a ko je bolji od koga i za koliko to je neshto trece. Neko
bi reko da je Pike bolji od Shumahera, poshto ima vishe titula.. Nije nishta
u ciframa.. Probaj da dokazesh da nisam u pravu.. ;)
auto-moto.120junior,
> Probaj da dokazesh da nisam u pravu.. ;)
Neću ni da pokušavam. Neću ni da te pitam iz kog razloga navijaš
za Hakinena, a ne za nekog drugog. Pitaću te samo, potpuno objektivno
da mi odgovoriš: Koliko vozača, trenutno aktivnih u formuli 1, bi
moglo da izvede ono što je Šumaher izveo danas? I lično, da li misliš
da je Mika jedan od njih?
Uopšte neću da se preganjam, al' stvarno, kad pogledam kakvi sve čobani
osvajaju titulu (računajući da je Mika uzme ove godine), počeo sam stvarno
da cenim onog Vilneva .. mali je zlato u odnosu na Hila i Miku.
auto-moto.121vector,
┼─┤ Ubuduce sa vise postovanja da govoris o trecem najuspesnijem vozacu
┼─┤ Formule 1 svih vremena.
On ce za par godina da obidje i Prosta.. ali svi mi znamo da on nije ni
blizu ni prvom ni cetvrtom, a pogotovo drugom.
Btw, da li je neko gledao juce Elkart lejk? Opaka trka.. Zanardi zavrsio
kao drugi posle problema na pocetku trke, nadoknadio nekih 15-tak pozicija
i usput na putu do podijuma izbacio Unsera iz trke. :)
E,sad, posto mi je istekla internet pretplata neka neko skokne do
www.cart.com ili www.icr.com i proveri da li je Zanardi kaznjen i kako. :))
auto-moto.122vector,
┼─┤ Ko kaze da je u formuli najvazniji dobar bolid i dobar motor.
┼─┤ Najbolji tim, najbolja taktika i najbolji vozac su sasvim dovoljni ;)
Ferrari nema dobar bolid?
┼─┤ Onako lepu voznju stvarno dugo nisam video. A kad ga je obisao za
┼─┤ krug, steta sto nije finger izbacio ..;)
:) Pa onda ne bi bio originalan -- hej, ipak je finger Frentzenov
trejdmark...
auto-moto.123senna,
>Necu ni da pokusavam. Necu ni da te pitam iz kog razloga navijas
>za Hakinena, a ne za nekog drugog. Pitacu te samo, potpuno objektivno
>da mi odgovoris: Koliko vozaca, trenutno aktivnih u formuli 1, bi
>moglo da izvede ono sto je Sumaher izveo danas?
Hmm, ne znam dal si gledo proshlogodishnju trku, al chika Dejmon je
proshle godine neshto shto je duplo teze od "onoga shto je Shumaher izveo",
chak ga je i komotno obishao na stazi na kojoj je to jedva moguce, sa bolidom
koji je kanda loshiji od onog Ferarija.. Vilnev ti je (ako nisi slushao ili
ako nisi imao gde da chujesh) u drugoj polovini trke vukao ista prosechna
vremena kao i Sh. u onom njegovom podvigu, bez da je izleteo sa staze ;).
Shalu na stranu, vec rekoh: Da je sa Hakinenom sve bilo u redu Sh.
definitivno ne bi uspeo. I da, ne navijam za Hakinena vec za Alezija ;).
>I licno, da li mislis da je Mika jedan od njih?
Ovo zaista nije bilo nishta posebno, sesti i odvesti par brzih krugova
sa manje goriva od ostalih, to je i Mika komotno mogao da izvede.. Da su u
Meklarenu bili pametni i da su pustili Kultarda odmah da prestigne Hakinena,
chim je ovom otkazao menjach, Sh. bi definitivno bio drugi, a nikako prvi..
>Uopste necu da se preganjam, al' stvarno, kad pogledam kakvi sve cobani
>osvajaju titulu (racunajuci da je Mika uzme ove godine), poceo sam
>stvarno da cenim onog Vilneva .. mali je zlato u odnosu na Hila i Miku.
Zak ima petlju kakvu niko nema, mada iskreno mislim da ni DHL nije za
bacanje ;)
auto-moto.124vector,
Max Biaggi u akciji..
max26.jpgauto-moto.125vector,
Max ispred Doohana.
max28.jpgauto-moto.126vector,
Cetvorostruki sampion u 500cc klasi.. the one and only -- Mick Doohan.
mick25.jpgauto-moto.127vector,
Simon Crafar, Red Bull Yamaha. Kladim se da ce uzeti jos jednu pobedu do
kraja sezone.. btw, kvalifikacije za VN Ceske su sad u petak.
simon03.jpgauto-moto.128kum.djole,
>> Ko kaže da je u formuli najvažniji dobar bolid i dobar motor.
Njegov bolid za ovu trku je bio lakši, plus što je motor bio jači.
auto-moto.129kum.djole,
>> Uopšte neću da se preganjam, al' stvarno, kad pogledam kakvi sve čobani
>> osvajaju titulu (računajući da je Mika uzme ove godine), počeo sam stvarno
>> da cenim onog Vilneva .. mali je zlato u odnosu na Hila i Miku.
No, ti si pre par meseci nekoliko puta izjavio da se samo titule broje,
bez obzira u kom sportu (tipa, došli do finala, nisu osvojili, pih..).
auto-moto.130junior,
> Hmm, ne znam dal si gledo proshlogodishnju trku, al chika
> Dejmon je proshle godine neshto shto je duplo teze od "onoga
> shto je Shumaher izveo", chak ga je i komotno obishao na stazi
E, upravo to ti pričam.
Čika Dejmon je bio drugi na toj trci, upravo zahvaljujući Šumaheru,
koji je, ako se sećaš imao slične probleme kao Mika juče, ali je bez
problema zatvarao sve prolaze, i ladno omogući Dejmonu da sa onim
TWRom, napravi 30 sekundi razlike.
Dejmonu, skidamo kapu za vožnju te godine .. pitanje je, zašto Mika
nije zatvarao ostale vozače danas, a mogao je da izdrži tih zadnjih
5-10 krugova kad su krenuli da ga obilaze, bez blama. Uostalom, niko
njega, sem Vilneva, nije obišao na ravnom delu staze, a i to je mogao
da saseče.
> izvede.. Da su u Meklarenu bili pametni i da su pustili
> Kultarda odmah da prestigne Hakinena, chim je ovom otkazao
> menjach, Sh. bi definitivno bio drugi, a nikako prvi..
Bigaje, da igraju pošteno, Kultard bi ga odavno prešao i borio se
sa Šumaherom .. al' kad se igraš sa vatrom, ponekad moraš i da se
opečeš, zar ne? ;)
Teško će neko Šumahera dobiti njegovim oružjem. Ipak se on dobrano
izučio u zadržavanju protivnika, na svakojake načine.
> Ovo zaista nije bilo nishta posebno, sesti i odvesti par brzih
> krugova sa manje goriva od ostalih, to je i Mika komotno mogao
> da izvede..
Ok, ako ti kažeš da ti verujem. Prosto je neverovatno, kad je to
toliko jednostavno, da se niko sem Šumahera ne usuđuje da ide na
takvu taktiku.
Nije ništa posebno .. ma daaaj. ;)
auto-moto.131junior,
> No, ti si pre par meseci nekoliko puta izjavio da se samo
> titule broje, bez obzira u kom sportu (tipa, došli do finala,
> nisu osvojili, pih..).
Upravo tako .. ko će za 20 godina da se seća kakvi su vozači bili
Alezi i Berger, kad nisu uzeli nijednu titulu, a pobede mogu da
nabroje na prste .. dve ruke :) i kusur ..;)
Hill će ostati upamćen u formuli kao šampion, a nije ni za prineti
ovoj dvojici. E, sad, što su ovi baksuzi kakve svet nije video, to
je drugo pitanje.
A sve što sam ja hteo da kažem, jeste, da ako Mika uzme ove godine
titulu, a sve su šanse da se to desi, da između poslednja 3 osvajača
titule, taj Vilnev može da peva "majstori gde ste" ;)
auto-moto.132junior,
> Btw, da li je neko gledao juce Elkart lejk? Opaka trka..
> Zanardi zavrsio kao drugi posle problema na pocetku trke,
> nadoknadio nekih 15-tak pozicija i usput na putu do podijuma
> izbacio Unsera iz trke. :)
Šta se desilo Andretiju? Otkazao volan, ili šta..?
BTW, osećam da je Herti dosta Barona .. već mu se popeo na vrh glave :))
auto-moto.133junior,
> Ferrari nema dobar bolid?
A Mclaren nema bolji? :)
auto-moto.134vector,
┼─┤ Nije nista posebno .. ma daaaj. ;)
Ako ovo spada pod posebno, sta onda reci za cart trku u Klivlendu ili
Vancouveru prosle godine?
auto-moto.135vector,
┼─┤ Upravo tako .. ko ce za 20 godina da se seca kakvi su vozaci bili
┼─┤ Alezi i Berger,
..svako ko ih je ikad gledao. ;)
auto-moto.136vector,
┼─┤ Sta se desilo Andretiju? Otkazao volan, ili sta..?
Riknula zadnja leva (lr) guma. Andretti po ko zna koji put ispada zbog
Goodyear guma, mada.. da je ostao u trci, Zanardi bi ga nekako obisao do
kraja kruga.
┼─┤ BTW, osecam da je Herti dosta Barona .. vec mu se popeo na vrh glave
┼─┤ :))
:))) Herta je takav bakzuz kakvog svet jos nije video.. mislim, covek je
redovno u poziciji da uzme pobedu, ali uvek ispadne svojom greskom.
Btw, sledeca trka je u Vancouveru 6. septembra. Podsecam da je Zanardi
prosle godine skoro :) izveo nemoguce na toj stazi.. sada su promenili
layout staze -- koliko sam cuo, nije vise ulicna :( vec tipicna road staza.
Uz poruku je novi layout. (koristite sea za gledanje slike)
Neka neko skokne na www.icr.com i skine izvestaj sa trke..
vancnew.jpgauto-moto.137senna,
>Cika Dejmon je bio drugi na toj trci, upravo zahvaljujuci Sumaheru,
>koji je, ako se secas imao slicne probleme kao Mika juce, ali je bez
>problema zatvarao sve prolaze, i ladno omoguci Dejmonu da sa onim
>TWRom, napravi 30 sekundi razlike.
Jel ti znash koji je problem imao Shumaher proshle godine? Slichan
Mikinom? Pa jeste, gume imaju veze sa menjachem, ista stvar.. Miki je falila
najmanje jedna niza brzina, zato nije mogao da povlachi iz onih sporijih
krivina i zato su ga prestizali gde su i kako su stigli.
>Tesko ce neko Sumahera dobiti njegovim oruzjem. Ipak se on dobrano
>izucio u zadrzavanju protivnika, na svakojake nacine.
Ma da, samo on to ume da radi.. Daj, otkad je to njegovo oruzje, koja
trka.. Ako hocesh da nauchish neshto, pogledaj VN Madjarske '92..
>Ok, ako ti kazes da ti verujem. Prosto je neverovatno, kad je to
>toliko jednostavno, da se niko sem Sumahera ne usuduje da ide na
>takvu taktiku.
Pa Meklarenu takve gluposti ne trebaju, oni su brzi. Kazem ti,
taktika ne bi uspela, shto je forsirash toliko kad je samo imao srece..
auto-moto.138senna,
>Upravo tako .. ko ce za 20 godina da se seca kakvi su vozaci bili
>Alezi i Berger, kad nisu uzeli nijednu titulu, a pobede mogu da
>nabroje na prste .. dve ruke :) i kusur ..;)
Svako ko je umeo da ih gleda...
>Hill ce ostati upamcen u formuli kao sampion, a nije ni za prineti
>ovoj dvojici. E, sad, sto su ovi baksuzi kakve svet nije video, to
>je drugo pitanje.
Ako Sh moze da ima dve titule, moze i Hil jednu, bez problema.
>A sve sto sam ja hteo da kazem, jeste, da ako Mika uzme ove godine
>titulu, a sve su sanse da se to desi, da izmedu poslednja 3 osvajaca
>titule, taj Vilnev moze da peva "majstori gde ste" ;)
Vilnev je dobar.. A Mika je bolji od Keke Rozberga.. ;)
auto-moto.140junior,
> >Tesko ce neko Sumahera dobiti njegovim oruzjem. Ipak se on dobrano
> >izucio u zadrzavanju protivnika, na svakojake nacine.
> Ma da, samo on to ume da radi.. Daj, otkad je to njegovo oruzje,
Lepo kažem u zadržavanju na svakojake načine..
Pri tome sam naravno, mislio i na Irvinea, ako već moram baš svaku
svoju misao da ti pojašnjavam. :))
BTW, sutrašnji DT donosi zanimljiv članak:
---
O Sumaherovoj superiornosti u Budimpesti
najbolje svedoci izjava Meklarenovog vozaca Dejvida
Kultarda: "Mihael je bio fenomenalan. Nisam mogao da
verujem da neko moze tako da vozi".
---
Toliko o tvojim pričama za decu da bi to mogao svako da izvede :))
auto-moto.141senna,
>> Ma da, samo on to ume da radi.. Daj, otkad je to njegovo oruzje,
>
>Lepo kazem u zadrzavanju na svakojake nacine..
Ne mogu da ti dokazem da nisi u pravu ako mi ne dash konkretni
primer... Isto ko na prou shto je jedan lik tvrdio da je Sh. dobar na sporim
stazama. Kazete neshto, i to je po vama tako i nema druge.. ;)
>najbolje svedoci izjava Meklarenovog vozaca Dejvida
>Kultarda: "Mihael je bio fenomenalan. Nisam mogao da
>verujem da neko moze tako da vozi".
Pa nikad nisam reko da je Kultard neki shofer..
auto-moto.142vpoznanovic,
Franchitti Wins Road America
CART Online (August 16, 1998) -- Dario Franchitti scored a triumph
befitting the United Nations while posting his first career FedEx
Championship Series victory in Sunday's Texaco/Havoline 200 before a
crowd of 75,000 at Road America.
Franchitti (KOOL Reynard Honda), a native Scot of Italian ancestry,
ended a three-year victory drought for a team owned by New Zealander
Barry Green by driving to a 7.102-second victory over series points
leader Alex Zanardi (Target Reynard Honda). Christian Fittipaldi
(Kmart Swift Ford) finished third, his best effort since finishing in
the same position at Vancouver in 1996.
Franchitti became the first Scotsman to win a Champ Car race since Jim
Clark was victorious in the 1965 Indianapolis 500. He also collected
the first FedEx Championship Series victory for a Green-owned car
since Jacques Villeneuve won at Cleveland in 1995.
Franchitti, making his 30th career start, led a race-high 23 of 50
laps and took the lead for good on the 30th lap of the 4.048-mile
permanent road course. In a game of pit strategies, he built a lead of
as much as 27.582 seconds over Adrian Fernandez (Tecate/Quaker
State/Labatt Reynard Ford) before his final pit stop on Lap 42, when
he took on fuel and four tires during an unofficial 10.7- second stop.
Fernandez and Fittipaldi, running third, also pitted on Lap 42,
allowing Franchitti to emerge with an 11.673-second lead over
pole-sitter Michael Andretti (Kmart/Texaco/Havoline Swift Ford) on Lap
43. Franchitti maintained the advantage at six or more seconds for the
balance of the event.
Zanardi, who fell back to 24th place on Lap 7 after being involved in
contact with Al Unser Jr. (Marlboro Penske Mercedes) on the opening
lap, rebounded from the incident to reach the podium. He ran strong
while also benefiting from late-race misfortune befalling Andretti,
who cut a tire on the final lap while running second, to collect his
11th podium finish in 14 events.
Fittipaldi, who overcame severe neck pain prior to the start of the
race, scored a season-best finish, topping his previous best of fourth
established at the season opener at Homestead. Rounding out the
top-five finishers were rookie Tony Kanaan (LCI Reynard Honda), who
matched a season best established at Portland, and Fernandez, who
claimed his seventh top-five finish of the season and moved into third
place in the FedEx Championship Series points race, with 120.
Zanardi holds an 80-point lead (206-126) over Target/Chip Ganassi
Racing teammate Jimmy Vasser (Target Reynard Honda) in the PPG Cup
race heading into the Sept. 6 Molson Indy Vancouver. Vasser finished
ninth Sunday, his 45th points-paying result in his past 47 starts,
dating to the 1995 season finale at Laguna Seca.
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
DARIO FRANCHITTI, KOOL Reynard Honda: "It was very difficult to pass
anybody on track, so I just concentrated on good stops and quick 'out'
laps. After the last stop, I saw 'plus-10' on the pit board, and that
kind of worried me, because that's exactly what it said in Toronto
before I went off [after leading 76 of the first 79 laps]. I was
slowing it down and being cautious on the brakes the last couple of
laps and cruising it home. I could really run fast after the last stop
because of the fuel mileage we were getting. The guys at Team KOOL
Green are going to have a party tonight. They did a great job. The
stops were awesome. And I hope this [victory] is the first of many."
ALEX ZANARDI, Target Reynard Honda: "Congratulations to Christian
[Fittipaldi], he's had some tough luck and it's about time that he
gets a good result. I'm really happy for both him and Dario
[Franchitti]. They're both good guys and they deserve good results. It
was a great race after Lap 1. That was very unfortunate. In the short
chute between Turns 1 and 2, I saw a puff of smoke. Everybody stopped,
and that wasn't even the braking point. The first thing I did was hit
the brake, but it wasn't soon enough. After that, we had to take an
aggressive strategy, and thanks to my boys [in the pit crew], it paid
off. I'm happy for the way I raced, although I'm disappointed for what
happened on Lap 1. It's exactly what I wouldn't need after what
happened last week [when he was placed on probation]."
CHRISTIAN FITTIPALDI, Kmart Swift Ford: "I honestly don't know what
happened [to create his sore neck]. This has never happened before.
This morning, I went out and did five laps and after I came in, I
could hardly turn my head. I took a shot and I took a couple of
Advils, but when we went out to do the parade laps, I thought I was
done. Then my neck started getting hot and I started feeling better.
Other than that, the race was fine. We had a good day. We've had a
hard time getting back here since the last time. We have five more
races to go, and hopefully, I can visit you guys again and we can get
ready for next year."
WHAT'S NOTEWORTHY
Ě CART Chief Steward Wally Dallenbach announced following Sunday's
Texaco/Havoline 200 that no action will be taken against Alex Zanardi,
who currently is on probation and was involved in an opening-lap
incident with Al Unser Jr. "After reviewing the tapes and interviewing
several drivers, it was apparent that Alex took evasive action to
avoid his incident, which was triggered by nose-to-tail contact
between the No. 5 [nose of Gil de Ferran] and 20 [tail of Scott
Pruett] cars in front of them," Dallenbach said. "Alex's wheels were
locked up before the contact. It was deemed a racing incident."
Zanardi was placed on probation for "unjustifiable risk" following
last week's Miller Lite 200 at the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course.
Dallenbach said that the incident involving Alex Barron remains under
review pending further information, and no decision will be reached
today. Barron went off course and made contact with the disabled car
of Bryan Herta on Lap 11.
Dallenbach also announced that Paul Tracy was removed from probation
prior to Sunday's Texaco/Havoline 200. Tracy had been on probation
following the June 7 ITT Automotive Detroit Grand Prix for
"unjustifiable risk." "I have been pleased with Paul's driving in the
last couple of races and I decided that he would be removed from his
probationary status prior to Sunday's race," Dallenbach said.
Ě Dario Franchitti (KOOL Reynard Honda) became the sixth international
driver in the past seven years to win at Road America following
Brazilian Emerson Fittipaldi (1992), Canadians Paul Tracy (1993) and
Jacques Villeneuve (1994 and '95), and Italian Alex Zanardi (1997).
Michael Andretti (1996) is the lone American winner at Road America in
that span.
Ě Franchitti became the fourth different driver to claim his first
career FedEx Championship Series victory at Road America. He follows
Hector Rebaque (1982), Jacques Villeneuve (uncle of the 1995 PPG Cup
winner Jacques Villeneuve, 1985), and the younger Villeneuve in 1994.
Ě Franchitti's victory was the ninth of the season for Honda, and the
first since Andre Ribeiro's in the Marlboro 500 at Michigan Speedway
in 1996 by a driver who is not a member of the Honda-powered
Target/Chip Ganassi Racing Team.
Ě The victory was the 13th in a row for Firestone and its 24th in the
past 25 FedEx Championship Series events.
Ě Bobby Rahal (Miller Lite Reynard Ford) finished eighth, extending
his streak of PPG Cup points-paying finishes to 11 events.
Ě Tony Kanaan (LCI Reynard Honda) extended his lead in the Jim Trueman
Rookie of the Year race with his fourth-place finish. He now holds a
58-33 advantage over Helio Castro-Neves (Alumax Aluminum Reynard
Mercedes), who was held scoreless, in the rookie points standings.
Ě By leading 18 laps, Michael Andretti (Kmart/Texaco/Havoline Swift
Ford) surpassed his total laps led in road or street course events for
the season. Andretti entered Sunday's event with 389 laps led to date,
but only 13 were on road or street courses.
Ě Arnd Meier (Hassroder/J.A.G. Lola Ford) finished a career-best 10th
Sunday, exceeding a previous career-best 12th established last year at
Michigan and equaled this season at Portland.
Ě Scott Pruett's (Visteon Reynard Ford) exit due to engine
difficulties on Lap 25 ended a streak of five consecutive top-six
finishes and eight consecutive finishes with PPG Cup points.
Ě When rookie JJ Lehto (Hogan Motor Leasing, Inc. Reynard Mercedes)
led Lap 28, it marked the second time this season that he had led at
least a lap. Lehto led five laps at Long Beach earlier this season.
Ě Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson declared Sunday as "Bobby Rahal
Day" throughout the state. Rahal, a three-time PPG Cup champion (1986,
'87, '92), is retiring as a driver at the conclusion of this, his 17th
season, which has been dubbed "Rahal's Last Ride," by primary sponsor
Miller Brewing. Thompson read a proclamation in Rahal's honor and
presented him with a crystal vase bearing his likeness during pre-race
ceremonies.
Ě Entertainer David Letterman, a part owner of Team Rahal, attended
his first race of the FedEx Championship Series season Sunday.
Letterman joined Team Rahal prior to the 1996 season.
Ě When Andretti earned the pole position for the Texaco/Havoline 200
Saturday, it marked the first FedEx Championship Series pole for an
American-made chassis since Gordon Johncock drove a Wildcat to the
pole position at The Milwaukee Mile on June 12, 1982.
Ě The Marlboro Pole Award rollover bonus went unclaimed for the 21st
consecutive event Sunday, meaning that the potential Marlboro Pole
Award payout at the Sept. 6 Molson Indy Vancouver is a record
$340,000, including $330,000 in rollover funds. The Molson Indy
Vancouver will mark more than one year since the bonus, which grows at
a rate of $15,000 per event until a victory from the pole is recorded,
was last claimed by Zanardi at Cleveland.
WHAT'S ON TAP
The Texaco/Havoline 200 will receive an encore performance 3:30 a.m.
ET Wednesday on ESPN and will re-air 3 a.m. Thursday on ESPN2.
WHAT'S NEXT
After a two-week break, the FedEx Championship Series will resume
Sept. 6 with the Molson Indy Vancouver from Concord Pacific Place in
Vancouver, British Columbia.
auto-moto.143vector,
┼─┤ prosle godine skoro :) izveo nemoguce na toj stazi.. sada su promenili
┼─┤ layout staze -- koliko sam cuo, nije vise ulicna :( vec tipicna road
┼─┤ staza.
Hmm.. ovo na slici lici na ulicnu stazu ili se to meni samo cini?
auto-moto.144vector,
┼─┤ Ě CART Chief Steward Wally Dallenbach announced following Sunday's
┼─┤ Texaco/Havoline 200 that no action will be taken against Alex Zanardi,
Cika Wally je shvatio da bez Zanardija cart ne bi bio ono sto jeste, tako
da ga nije ni kaznio...
┼─┤ Ě The Marlboro Pole Award rollover bonus went unclaimed for the 21st
┼─┤ consecutive event Sunday, meaning that the potential Marlboro Pole
┼─┤ Award payout at the Sept. 6 Molson Indy Vancouver is a record
┼─┤ $340,000, including $330,000 in rollover funds. The Molson Indy
Ovo AZ uzima u Australiji.
auto-moto.145vector,
Na danasnjim kvalifikacijama u Ceskoj (Brno) Max Biaggi je uzeo pole za
nekih 0.4s ispred Doohana. Treci je Jean Michel Bayle (Rainey Yamaha) sto
ne bi trebalo da cudi previse (ovo mu je prva trka ove godine), jer je JMB
pravi majstor za ovu stazu... ko je gledao kako je Bayle driftovao pre dve
godine na kvalifikacijama za VN Ceske zna o cemu pricam. Ako se ne varam,
Alex Criville je zavrsio na cetvrtom mestu.
auto-moto.146vector,
Ralf Schumacher u Williamsu?
auto-moto.147senna,
> Ralf Schumacher u Williamsu?
To'ko o Frentzenu..
auto-moto.148giovanni,
Ę? Bla bla bla bla bla.. Taktika bi im komotno propala da Hakinen nije
Ę? imao probleme.
Da je baba imala...
Kako to da ni Kultard nije mogao bar da održi razliku nego je i pored
izletanja i trećeg pit-stop-a Šumaher zadržao vođstvo koje je na kraju
rezultiralo totalnim poniženjem McLarena.
auto-moto.149vector,
┼─┤ > Ralf Schumacher u Williamsu?
┼─┤ To'ko o Frentzenu..
Ako je RS drugi vozac, ko je prvi?
auto-moto.150junior,
> Ralf Schumacher u Williamsu?
Jel? Otkad to?
auto-moto.151senna,
]> Da je baba imala...
>Kako to da ni Kultard nije mogao bar da odrzi razliku nego je i pored
>izletanja i treceg pit-stop-a Sumaher zadrzao vodstvo koje je na kraju
>rezultiralo totalnim ponizenjem McLarena.
Paaa.. Ako saberemo dva i dva.. Sh je bio koliko sekundi ispred
Kultarda kad je izasho iz boksa? A koliko krugova je Kultard morao da vozi
iza mike koji je vozio preko 1:23 po krugu? Kad ga je obisho vozio je 1:21..
Deset puta dva.. dvaes.. A kolko je Sh izashao ispred Kultarda? 20? Ne bih
reko.. U Meklarenu su se zeznuli shto nisu odmah rekli Kultardu da prodje
Miku, chim su se kod ovoga pojavili problemi.. A ponizenje? Ponizenje je kad
tvoj timski kolega koji je placen da ti chuva ledja bude tri mesta ispred
tebe na kvalifikacijama.. ;)
auto-moto.152giovanni,
Ę? Hmm, ne znam dal si gledo proshlogodishnju trku, al chika Dejmon je
Ę? proshle godine neshto shto je duplo teze od "onoga shto je Shumaher
Ę? izveo", chak ga je i komotno obishao na stazi na kojoj je to jedva
Ę? moguce, sa bolidom
A da se podsetimo malo kakve je probleme imao Šumaher prošle godine u
Mađarskoj? Ne bi bilo loše.
auto-moto.153vector,
┼─┤ > Ralf Schumacher u Williamsu?
┼─┤ Jel? Otkad to?
Cuo sam juce nesto o tome na Sky Newsu...
auto-moto.154vector,
┼─┤ Re: kvalifikacije za VN Ceske, Brno
Mick Doohan je danas preuzeo pole od Biaggija, koji nije uspeo da popravi
vreme koje je postigao juce. Bayle je zadrzao trece mesto sa jucerasnjim
vremenom, dok je front row popunio Ralf Waldmann sa svojim KR3 motorom.
RW je uspeo da se dogura na front row tako sto je u svom poslednjem krugu
pratio Maxa efektivno koristeci njegov slipstrim.
1. Michael Doohan Repsol Honda
2. Max Biaggi Kanemoto Honda
3. Jean Michel Bayle Rainey Yamaha
4. Ralf Waldmann Modenas KR3
E,sad, za ocekivati je da se sutra za prvu poziciju bore Biaggi i Doohan.
Mick je rekao da ocekuje da ce Criville, Max i on zavrsiti na podijumu,
mada ja nisam toliko siguran sto se tice Alexa. Carlos Checa je i danas
pao sa motora i ne verujem da ce uspeti da se popne na podijum. Sto se tice
Bejla... uzeo je pole '96, a prosle godine je dovukao Modenas na front row
na kvalifikacijama, ali nije nista posebno uradio oba puta za vreme trke.
Doohan je danas jedini konstanto vozio niske 2:02 krugove i par puta usao
u 2:01, tako da ja tipujem na njega sutra. Biaggi mi deluje kao jedini
kandidat za drugo mesto, mozda cak i za pobedu ukoliko budu nasli bolji
setup sutra na treningu, a ko ce biti treci pojma nemam. Alex Criville?
auto-moto.155senna,
> A da se podsetimo malo kakve je probleme imao Sumaher prosle godine u
>Madarskoj? Ne bi bilo lose.
Ajd, podsetimo se.. Sredio je svoje gume. Pardon, same su se sredile.
auto-moto.156vector,
┼─┤ VN Ceske, Brno
U 125 cc je pobedio Marco Melandri, dok je u 250 cc pobedu uzeo Harada
ispred Kapirosija. Kao treci je zavrsio Marcellino Lucchi, a cetvrti je bio
Jeremy McWilliams.
Max Biaggi je pobedio u 500 cc, a Mick Doohan je u prvom krugu pao sa
motora i posle je bio prinudjen da odustane.
1. Max Biaggi Kanemoto Honda
2. Alex Criville Repsol Honda
3. Alex Barros Gresini Honda
4. Tadayuki Okada Repsol Honda
Biaggi vodi u sampionatu sa 11 poena prednosti ispred Kriviljea i 13
ispred Doohana. Sledeca trka je u Imoli, 6. septembra. Bice opako!
auto-moto.157vpoznanovic,
Belgian Grand Prix 1998
from Spa Francorchamps, Belgium
28th August 1998 - 30th August 1998
Friday, August 28th
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, August 29th
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, August 30th
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (44 laps)
auto-moto.158junior,
> Belgian Grand Prix 1998
> from Spa Francorchamps, Belgium
Došlo doba da se vidi rasplet sezone. ;)
auto-moto.159vpoznanovic,
F1: Belgian GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:51.895
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:51.906 0.011 0.011
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:52.629 0.723 0.734
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:53.100 0.471 1.205
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:53.534 0.434 1.639
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:53.589 0.055 1.694
7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:53.601 0.012 1.706
8. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:53.660 0.059 1.765
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:54.116 0.456 2.221
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:54.130 0.014 2.235
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:54.158 0.028 2.263
12. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:54.171 0.013 2.276
13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:54.433 0.262 2.538
14. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:54.878 0.445 2.983
15. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:55.182 0.304 3.287
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:55.263 0.081 3.368
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:55.730 0.467 3.835
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:56.080 0.350 4.185
19. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:56.431 0.351 4.536
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:57.014 0.583 5.119
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:57.682 0.668 5.787
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:58.178 0.496 6.283
107% of fastest time: 1:59.728
auto-moto.160giovanni,
Ę? Ajd, podsetimo se.. Sredio je svoje gume. Pardon, same su se sredile.
Dakle, Hil je pretekao Šumahera koji je imao problema sa gumama tokom
cele trke i to je fantastičan podvig a ovo što je Šumaher uradio ove
godine je sreća. Previše si objektivan.
auto-moto.161vpoznanovic,
F1: Belgian GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:50.319
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:50.702 0.383 0.383
3. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:51.368 0.666 1.049
4. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:51.859 0.491 1.540
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:51.972 0.113 1.653
6. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:52.058 0.086 1.739
7. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:52.102 0.044 1.783
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:52.136 0.034 1.817
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:52.346 0.210 2.027
10. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:52.542 0.196 2.223
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:53.020 0.478 2.701
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:53.379 0.359 3.060
13. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:53.898 0.519 3.579
14. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:53.933 0.035 3.614
15. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:54.071 0.138 3.752
16. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:54.814 0.743 4.495
17. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:55.049 0.235 4.730
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:55.302 0.253 4.983
19. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:55.451 0.149 5.132
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:56.329 0.878 6.010
21. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:56.604 0.275 6.285
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:57.000 0.396 6.681
107% of fastest time: 1:58.041
auto-moto.163vpoznanovic,
F1: Belgian GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:48.682
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:48.845 0.163 0.163
3. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:49.728 0.883 1.046
4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:49.797 0.069 1.115
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:50.189 0.392 1.507
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:50.204 0.015 1.522
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:50.462 0.258 1.780
8. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:50.501 0.039 1.819
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:50.686 0.185 2.004
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:51.189 0.503 2.507
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:51.648 0.459 2.966
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:51.851 0.203 3.169
13. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:52.572 0.721 3.890
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:52.670 0.098 3.988
15. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:52.784 0.114 4.102
16. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:53.037 0.253 4.355
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:53.149 0.112 4.467
18. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:53.207 0.058 4.525
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:53.237 0.030 4.555
20. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:54.850 1.613 6.168
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:55.084 0.234 6.402
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:55.520 0.436 6.838
107% of fastest time: 1:56.290
auto-moto.164vpoznanovic,
F1: Belgian GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 2:07.839
2. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 2:08.608 0.769 0.769
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 2:09.120 0.512 1.281
4. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 2:09.127 0.007 1.288
5. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 2:09.539 0.412 1.700
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 2:10.076 0.537 2.237
7. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 2:10.258 0.182 2.419
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 2:10.917 0.659 3.078
9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 2:11.374 0.457 3.535
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 2:11.546 0.172 3.707
11. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 2:11.860 0.314 4.021
12. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 2:13.781 1.921 5.942
13. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 2:13.853 0.072 6.014
14. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 2:14.038 0.185 6.199
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 2:14.147 0.109 6.308
16. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 2:14.680 0.533 6.841
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 2:16.139 1.459 8.300
18. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 2:16.174 0.035 8.335
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 2:16.217 0.043 8.378
20. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 2:17.733 1.516 9.894
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 2:20.842 3.109 13.003
22. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 2:26.065 5.223 18.226
auto-moto.166stefan,
Glupi švabo ;))
auto-moto.167vpoznanovic,
Dosta je bilo Michaele, došao je i na tebe red da vidiš kako to izgleda...
auto-moto.168junior,
> Dosta je bilo Michaele, došao je i na tebe red da vidiš kako to
> izgleda...
Daj, bre, ljudi ovo nema smisla. Šumaher je bar sam izguravao svoje
protivnike, i snosio sankcije kad treba.
Šta je sad ovo? Krvavi sport? Oćemo li uvesti trokolice i gladijatore?
Jel' treba Irvine u sledećoj trci da udara u Hakinena?
Ovde se tolika lova obrće, da stvarno postaje ružno za gledati. :(
auto-moto.169ljubisha,
>Daj, bre, ljudi ovo nema smisla. Šumaher je bar sam izguravao svoje
>protivnike, i snosio sankcije kad treba.
Molim!? Sad je sam sebe izgurao i neka snosi sankcije. Ustvari,
za ovo što je krenuo da se bije min. kazna 50.000$ (al da se ipak
sastane sa Kultardom nezvanično posle trke da popije batine).
auto-moto.170ljubisha,
> Glupi švabo ;))
Molim moderatora da briše sve poruke u kojima se veliča (zlo)delo
gore pomenutog glupog švabe! :)
auto-moto.171boyaan,
> za ovo sto je krenuo da se bije min. kazna 50.000$ (al da se ipak
> sastane sa Kultardom nezvanicno posle trke da popije batine).
Minimalna kazna za ovo sto je Kultard uradio bi trebala da bude ne
ucestvovanje McLarena na sledecoj trci. Shumi nikad nije uradio ovako nesto,
samo se pitam da li je ovo Kultard uradio da bi se spasio bruke sto ce ga
Mihel prestici za ceo krug ili da bi ga skenjao za 10 bodova, ili i jedno i
drugo. A kad je Shumaher krenuo da "nabode" Dejvida ovaj se usro ko pi*ka a
da nepricamo sta bi se desilo da se sastan
auto-moto.172kum.djole,
>> Molim!? Sad je sam sebe izgurao i neka snosi sankcije. Ustvari,
>> za ovo što je krenuo da se bije min. kazna 50.000$ (al da se ipak
>> sastane sa Kultardom nezvanično posle trke da popije batine).
Kultard KRALJ! :)
Osećam da ovi iz Džordana sad kače njegovu sliku na bolid umesto reklame..
;)
auto-moto.173yvan,
=> Minimalna kazna za ovo sto je Kultard uradio bi trebala da bude ne
=> ucestvovanje McLarena na sledecoj trci.
Onda bi ferrari trebao da bude prognan sa lica zemlje kada se sabere sta je
sve schumacher uradio....
=> Shumi nikad nije uradio ovako nesto,
Izgleda da tvoje pracenje F1 obuhvata citavih 5 sec. i to onih za koje
vreme je schumacher lupio Coultharda, a kako je Hakkinen zavrsio ovu trku?
Piruetom uz schumacherovu pomoc....
auto-moto.174yvan,
=> Daj, bre, ljudi ovo nema smisla. Šumaher je bar sam izguravao svoje
=> protivnike, i snosio sankcije kad treba.
Dakle treba i da ga kazne sto je lupio Hakkinena na ovoj trci...
auto-moto.175boyaan,
> vreme je schumacher lupio Coultharda, a kako je Hakkinen zavrsio ovu trku?
> Piruetom uz schumacherovu pomoc...
Kultard je imao izbora - da propusti Mihela da prodje, ali ne on je namerno
zakocio da bi se Shumaher zakucao u njegov zadnji deo, dok Shumaher da nebi
izleteo sa staze dokacio zadnjim delom Hakkinena i posle je Mikin bolid
zakacio neko od vozaca (nisam video ko) i otkinuo mu tocak. Da Shumaher nije
skrenuo izleteo bi sa staze. Zbog slicne situacije prosle godine FIA je
oduzela Shumaheru vice-shampionsku titulu (ako se nevaram to je bilo u
Spaniji, na zadnjoj trci grand prix-a
auto-moto.176junior,
> Izgleda da tvoje pracenje F1 obuhvata citavih 5 sec. i to onih
> za koje vreme je schumacher lupio Coultharda, a kako je
> Hakkinen zavrsio ovu trku? Piruetom uz schumacherovu pomoc....
Hm, pitam se kako isti ljudi vide različite stvari.
Ortak je snimao trku .. ko mi pokaže da se prednji točkovi Hakinenovog
bolida motaju u desno, skidam kapu. Čovek nije ni pokušao da skrene,
jedini cilj bio mu je da zatvori Šumahera.
E, kako on sam nije uspeo da obavi posao, morao je Dejv da završi.
auto-moto.177vdunic,
> Dosta je bilo Michaele, došao je i na tebe red da vidiš kako to
> izgleda...
Jel možeš da objaviš ukupan poredak trke. Ovde si poslao samo warm-up.
auto-moto.178vector,
┼─┤ nesto, samo se pitam da li je ovo Kultard uradio da bi se spasio bruke
┼─┤ sto ce ga Mihel prestici za ceo krug ili da bi ga skenjao za 10 bodova,
Momak, ne lupetaj. Pogledaj Interlagos '96 pa vidi sta je bruka...
auto-moto.179vector,
┼─┤ mu tocak. Da Shumaher nije skrenuo izleteo bi sa staze. Zbog slicne
┼─┤ situacije prosle godine FIA je oduzela Shumaheru vice-shampionsku titulu
┼─┤ (ako se nevaram to je bilo u Spaniji, na zadnjoj trci grand prix-a
Ne lupetaj. Schu nije mogao da udari u taj zid i da je hteo...
auto-moto.180vector,
┼─┤ Ortak je snimao trku .. ko mi pokaze da se prednji tockovi Hakinenovog
┼─┤ bolida motaju u desno, skidam kapu. Covek nije ni pokusao da skrene,
┼─┤ jedini cilj bio mu je da zatvori Sumahera.
Jes, ali malo sutra.
auto-moto.181junior,
Gledajte kako se Čobanin raduje, nakon što mu je Dejv obezbedio
prvo mesto u borbi za titulu. ;)
BTW, sad sam prosurfovao par sajtova, Šumaher je optužio Dejva,
da je pokušao da ga ubije :), na šta mu je dotični odgovorio da
je dobio naređenje iz boxa da ga propusti, a to što je on usporio
tačno na izlasku iz (ako se dobro sećam) Pouhon krivine, je njegova
stvar.
Naravno, kad si 3 desetinke iza čoveka, a ovaj odluči da ukoči
tamo gde treba da se ide 200 na sat, šta se drugo može očekivati?
Anyway, posle su obojica pozvana do direktora trke da daju izjave,
koje još uvek nisu objavljene. Sad ćemo čekati arbitražu ...
Na ferarijevom sajtu i dalje nema ništa.
hakkinen.jpgauto-moto.182vector,
┼─┤ Gledajte kako se Cobanin raduje, nakon sto mu je Dejv obezbedio
┼─┤ prvo mesto u borbi za titulu. ;)
Ha, obrati paznju na urlanje svabe od srece u Japanu prosle godine kada
mu je Eddie 'backmarker' Irvine obezbedio sansu da osvoji titulu.
┼─┤ Naravno, kad si 3 desetinke iza coveka, a ovaj odluci da ukoci
┼─┤ tamo gde treba da se ide 200 na sat, sta se drugo moze ocekivati?
0.3s my ass... pogledaj malo bolje.
auto-moto.183stefan,
>Ortak je snimao trku .. ko mi pokaže da se prednji točkovi Hakinenovog
>bolida motaju u desno, skidam kapu. Čovek nije ni pokušao da skrene,
>jedini cilj bio mu je da zatvori Šumahera.
!? Pa do sudara je došlo pošto je Kultard izašao iz krivine i na snimku
se lepo vidi kako se drži desne strane staze. Nema ni govora o bilo kakvom
isecanju što ćeš i videti ako pogledaš snimak ponovo. Ono o čemu se može
pričati je da li je došlo do nepravdnog&ničim izazvanog kočenja od strane
Kultarda a zbog čega se Šumaher zakucao u njega. Ja posmatrajući snimak
par puta na TVu nisam primetio neke znake naglog kočenja a koji bi svakako
trebalo da se vide na onakvoj stazi. Možda grešim ali mi se čini da
Kultard jednostavno nije dodao gas po izlasku iz krivine dok je Šumaher,
verovatno iznerviran što ga ovaj nije ranije propustio, "legao" na gas
očekujući da to isto uradi i njegov rival i krenuo da ga pretekne. Rezultat
toga je da se onako zakucao u njega. Interesantno je da se slična
situacija ponovila i malo kasnije sa Fizikelom i Nakanom.
auto-moto.184junior,
> Jes, ali malo sutra.
Pa ako nije pokušavao da zatvori Šumahera, već mu je ono standardan
prolazak kroz krivinu, onda i bolje što je izleteo, nego da se blamira
na stazi. ;)
Obrni situaciju. Zamisli Šumahera ispred Hakinena, a ovaj ga prestiže
sa spoljne strane. Hakinen ga obilazi, blagi kontakt, Šumaher se okreće
i ispada => rezultat - par desetina poruka na sezamu, identične sadržine:
"tako i treba švabi, kad zatvara onog ko je brži".
Viđeno već hiljadu puta, toliko da je utvrđeno gradivo.
Kad Šumaher izleti, svi se raduju, srećni, Hakinen je bio 3x brži :),
a kad Hakija izleti, Šumaher srećnik, na prevaru dobija trke. Incident
od Šumahera - pu, đubre švapsko, treba ga streljati ... incident na
Šumaher - Kultard Bog, Kultard genije, tako ti treba Švabo ...
Mislim, formula stvarno postaje odvratna.
Sledeća trka je u Monci, i treba Irvine da se zakuca u Hakinena u prvoj
šikani, odmah posle starta, a da potom kaže da su mu otkazale kočnice. ;)
Zar ćemo svi da budemo ludi i da mu verujemo da su otkazale kočnice?
auto-moto.185junior,
> Ha, obrati paznju na urlanje svabe od srece u Japanu prosle
> godine kada mu je Eddie 'backmarker' Irvine obezbedio sansu da
> osvoji titulu.
Eddie bar nije nikad stukao Hakinena ili Vilneva kad su ga dotični
obilazili za krug, a nije da nije imao šanse.
Druga stvar, Eddie je u Japanu branio svoju poziciju. On nije bio
dužan nikog da pusti, koliko god sporiji bio. S druge strane, Dejv
je na ovoj stazi obilažen za krug, i nije branio nikakvu poziciju.
Poređenje je smešno.
> 0.3s my ass... pogledaj malo bolje.
Ma super, koliko je bilo? Kaži mi samo, koji normalan vozač koči
NA IZLAZU iz krivine? Ili bolje rečeno, koji vozač koji ne želi
zlo drugome, to čini?
auto-moto.186junior,
> ! ? Pa do sudara je došlo pošto je Kultard izašao iz krivine
> i na snimku se lepo vidi kako se drži desne strane staze. Nema
Replicirao si na poruku o prvom incidentu, sa Hakinenom. Inače
dotični je izjavio da je imao problema sa bolidom (ha, ha ;), i
da nije mogao baš sasvim da smota volan (što reče onaj na bk,
verovatno je upao u neku baricu ... al' zamalo), što je dovelo
do kontakta sa Šumaherom.
> toga je da se onako zakucao u njega. Interesantno je da se
> slična situacija ponovila i malo kasnije sa Fizikelom i Nakanom.
Postoji razlika u kočenju pri ulasku u krivinu, i pri izlasku
iz krivine, zar ne?
Dosta rasprave, možemo mi da se pravimo ludi, i da kažemo da je
Kultard zakočio jer je hteo da što pre pusti Šumahera da prođe :),
isto tako možemo da kažemo i da je Šumaher junački obišao Irvine-a
na svim dosadašnjim stazama, a da ovaj u principu nije hteo da ga
pusti.
Svi možemo da se pravimo ludi, ali ovo nije sudnica, ovde ne treba
ništa da se dokazuje, sve je proceni Bernija, ili neke komisije,
ukoliko je formiraju. Za dan-dva, videćemo ko je bio u pravu.
auto-moto.187stefan,
>Replicirao si na poruku o prvom incidentu, sa Hakinenom.
Sorry, nisam primetio.
>Postoji razlika u kočenju pri ulasku u krivinu, i pri izlasku
>iz krivine, zar ne?
Postoji naravno, ja sam rekao da na snimku nisma primetio ništa što bi
govorilo da je došlo do naglog kočenja već da mi se čini da Kultard nije
dodavao gas.
auto-moto.188giovanni,
Ę? Glupi švabo ;))
Pazi, ovakve izjave mogu te skupo koštati. Stanujem blizu tvog radnog
mesta ;)
BTW, da li možemo posle očigledne taktike Kultarda očekivati oduzimanje
svih bodova i suspenziju sa preostalih (podsetimo se uslovne kazne od 9
trka kazne za Vilneva zbog daleko minornijeg prekršaja).
auto-moto.189giovanni,
Ę? Dosta je bilo Michaele, došao je i na tebe red da vidiš kako to
Ę? izgleda...
Šta kako izgleda? Kad ti neko pri brzini od 200 na sat pred nosom ukoči
ko mutav (na 250 metara od krivine) kako to nazivaš. A podsetimo se da je
ove sezone Šumaher već imao problema sa sličnim budalama koje su pri
brzinama i od čak preko 300 km/h pokušavali nemoguće manevre od kojih je
neko mogao da pogine. Kad je Šumaher preduzeo takav manevar? Ajde,
osvetnici! I zašto Kultard taj ceo krug nije hteo da propusti bržeg vozača
nego je jurcao kao da je na prvom mestu a onda na najzgodnijem mestu
prikočio kao da je ugledao crnu mačku? Šta sad treba Irvajn da uradi u
Monci? Da se zakuca u Hakinena na ulasku u Parabolicu a mlaši Šumaher da
eliminiše Kultarda zaletanjem u box McLarena još pre kvalifikacija.
auto-moto.190giovanni,
Ę? Molim!? Sad je sam sebe izgurao i neka snosi sankcije. Ustvari,
Ę? za ovo što je krenuo da se bije min. kazna 50.000$ (al da se ipak
Ę? sastane sa Kultardom nezvanično posle trke da popije batine).
Jesi ti ikad vozio bar karting, a da ne pričam o nečem jačem? I da li
uopšte imaš vozaćku dozvolu? A oko batina i slično, nešto mi se Kultard
čudno ponašao kad ga je Šumi napao. Nije smeo ni kacigu da skine a ipak je
krupniji od Mihaela.
auto-moto.191giovanni,
Ę? Onda bi ferrari trebao da bude prognan sa lica zemlje kada se sabere sta
Ę? je sve schumacher uradio....
Šta je uradio? Ko se služio sumnjivim uređajima na bolidu i ko je
dogovarao rezultat poslednje trke prošle sezone sa Williamsom?
Ę? Izgleda da tvoje pracenje F1 obuhvata citavih 5 sec. i to onih za koje
Ę? vreme je schumacher lupio Coultharda, a kako je Hakkinen zavrsio ovu
Ę? trku? Piruetom uz schumacherovu pomoc....
O čemu ti to pričaš? Ono što je Hakinena upropastilo na ovoj trci je
njegova očigledna glupost i ne znanje. Kad ga je Šumaher već obišao skoro
celom dužinom bolida Hakinen je umesto da nastavi trku skretao levo ka
ogradi. U tom trenutku je uleteo u putanju zadnjeg desnog točka Ferrarija.
Šta je trenalo Šumaher da radi? Da sačeka i pita Hakinena da li je ovaj
spreman ili mu opet kvačilo ne fukncioniše. A možda bi mu bilo po volji da
je ovaj rekao "I am for West". Biće zanimljivo kako će Mika i Kultard da
se provuku do staze na sledećoj trci (Monza). Verovatno će morati
helikopterom da ih dovedu. A tek ako Šumeher ne pobedi baš me zanima kako
će se McLareni probiti posle trke do boxa.
auto-moto.192giovanni,
Ę? Ne lupetaj. Schu nije mogao da udari u taj zid i da je hteo...
Nije hteo da udari ali je Hakinen to hteo. Ali se kasno setio pa je
zakačio samo zadnji desni točak.
auto-moto.193giovanni,
Ę? Jes, ali malo sutra.
Šta, bre, malo sutra. Evo, upravo gledam snimak i lepo se vidi. Šumaher
ide prema zidu. Za njim i Hakinen. Šumaher je brži i Hakinen udara u
zadnji točak Ferrarija. Za to vreme, Mihale još uvek ne skreće ka pravcu
nego i dalje ide prema zidu. Mika se okreće, Mihael mota desno i izlazi
iza Irvajna. Zanimljivo je i to da je Kultard zakočio na mestu gde se ni u
ludilu ne koči već se još ubrzava. Čak posle tog mesta sledi prelazak u
petu brzinu pa tek onda ulazak u brzu i dugu levu krivinu. Idealna putanja
je ona po kojoj su vozili Kultard i Šumaher a kako je Kultard bio dužan da
propusti bržeg od sebe, tu je imao priliku. Neki bi rekli da je i
iskoristio.
auto-moto.194giovanni,
Ę? Momak, ne lupetaj. Pogledaj Interlagos '96 pa vidi sta je bruka...
Mržnja je najgore osećanje koje čoveka može da obuzme. U svojoj bezumnoj
mržnji prema Šumaheru ne vidite činjenice ni kada vas udaraju po licu.
Nemate obraza da priznate da ste u stvari looseri. Jadni ste.
auto-moto.195giovanni,
Ę? Dakle treba i da ga kazne sto je lupio Hakkinena na ovoj trci...
Opet ponavljam. Ko je GLEDAO trku ne bi izjavio ovakvu glupost.
auto-moto.196vpoznanovic,
F1: Belgian GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:43:47.407
2. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +0.932
3. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G +7.240
4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G +32.242
5. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B +51.682
6. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B -2 laps
7. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B -5 laps
8. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B -5 laps
DNF Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B on lap 27
DNF Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G on lap 26
DNF Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G on lap 26
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 18
DNF Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G on lap 17
DNF Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 11
DNF Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B on lap 9
DNF Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B on lap 1
DNF Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G on lap 1
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B on lap 1*
DNF Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 1*
DNF Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 1*
DNF Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B on lap 1*
DNF Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B on lap 1*
* Did not take the second start
auto-moto.197vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Belgian GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 77
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 70
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 48
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 32
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 20
6. Alexandr Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 16
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 15
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 13
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 10
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 7
12. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
13. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 3
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 125
2. Ferrari I 102
3. Williams-Mecachrome GB 33
4. Benetton-Playlife I 32
5. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 26
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 8
7. Arrows-TWR GB 6
8. Stewart-Ford GB 5
9. Prost-Peugeot F 1
auto-moto.198vpoznanovic,
F1: Belgian GP winners' press conference
Q. Congratulations, Damon, on your first victory since you won the world
championship in 1996. It must be a great feeling ...
DH: This is a great day for Jordan. To win our first GP and get a
one-two result is a fantastic result. We were strong all weekend, it has
been a very exciting race, I am absolutely delighted ... in fact I am
lost for words.
Q. Everyone was astonished to see you take the lead at La Source after
the second start ...
DH: Well, I got lucky because I had made a mess of the first start --
and then it was aborted because of the crash. But I made a beautiful
second start and once I got away I was looking good. The trouble was
that I had the car set up for a race that [I expected to be] getting
drier. That really made it a difficult race for me.
Q. What was your reaction after Michael had passed you when you found
him driving slowly round to the pits with only three wheels?
DH: I didn't actually see his car, but I heard by radio that he was out
of the race. But you don't have time to be emotional about things like
that. It's a very responsible position to be in when you're leading a
race, so I focused on doing what I needed to do to hold the lead.
Q. Your team mate Ralf Schumacher stayed close to you after the final
restart. Were you at all concerned that he might try to find a way past
you?
DH: It was always going to be quite close after the Safety Car had
been sent out, and I knew that Ralf would be pushing me all the way to
the finish because he didn't have very much space between himself and
Jean [Alesi] behind him. So I had to push as hard as I could. Then it
started to get a bit drier and the tyres began to go off, so I was under
pressure all the way.
Q. How did the battle with Michael go early on?
DH: I don't know what happens here. [Michael] seems to be able to change
the weather depending on what he wants. From the start, it looked to me
as though he had more downforce. I went for the intermediates on the
grid and after the restart I went for a lower downforce setting in the
assumption that it was going to get better. It worked for a few laps and
then it started to rain again, and it worked against me. Michael was
able to close and then get past. It was quite a tricky race. There was
one point when I went to go past a Prost at Stavelot and he didn't see
me and we touched. He got a bit of a fright.
Q. At one point you were on the grass at the bus stop ...
DH: It was very tricky conditions today. It was never raining really
hard, but it was raining at different parts of the circuit. Some parts
were very wet, some parts were not so wet. Visibility was terrible. Lots
of incidents, lots of people going off, so there was a hell of a lot to
look out for.
Q. Ralf, congratulations on your first podium finish since Argentina
last year. How does it feel?
RS: I am obviously very happy, both for the team and for us two. We
had a very bad start to this season which made things difficult. It
has all turned around now with first and second places here -- with
a bit of luck, I must admit -- but I think this was a good, strong
performance. We had to struggle a bit at the beginning because of making
the wrong tyre choice, but then it went OK and after the Safety Car made
its second appearance we just settled for the one-two. We had to keep
pushing, though, because Jean was so close behind.
Q. At the first start, before all those cars began crashing, you seemed
to anticipate what was going to happen, and you pulled over and almost
stopped. What had you seen?
RS: It was quite funny because I just spotted a McLaren [sideways]
in front of me and then I saw the mess going on all around me. So I
moved my car left, parked it in neutral and waited ... just in time to
see an Arrows suddenly missing me by about ten centimetres. Then when
everything had settled, I just engaged a gear and went through.
Q. Jean, was this an equally unexpected first podium for you and Sauber?
JA: Of course, yes. This is unbelievable for the team because so far we
hadn't seen such a level of competition between different cars. With
so many cars usually finishing the races we have had a problem getting
points. It was only in conditions like these that we have a possibility
of getting any points at all, so I am really happy for the team that we
have taken four really important points.
Q. Once the Safety Car had been withdrawn for the second time, you were
able to get close to Damon and Ralf. Were you tempted to try to pass
them?
JA: No, to be honest I was able to run behind them at the same speed,
but it would have been absolutely impossible to try anything because the
visibility was zero. In fact I was quite surprised when the Safety Car
was brought in and we were allowed to race again, because I personally
believe that it was still extremely dangerous. It was particularly bad
on the straights where there were cars abandoned by the side of road and
we were aquaplaning. That could have been extremely dangerous.
Q. But you were really pushing hard towards the end ...
JA: Sometimes Peter [Sauber] was saying 'slow, slow!' That was quite
funny for me, but I was very concentrated to stay on the circuit. The
conditions were changing non-stop. It was tough, especially at the
beginning with intermediates. When I put full wet tyres on it was quite
easy except for visibility.
auto-moto.199vpoznanovic,
Schumacher blames Coulthard
Sunday August 30, 1998
"I am very annoyed about what happened," said Michael Schumacher
shortly after he retired from the Belgian Grand Prix, following a
crash with McLaren's driver, David Coulthard. "It was clear that we
would have taken the lead in the championship, as I was by far the
fastest car on the track. Coulthard seemed to be running 5 to 6
seconds slower than his real pace once I was behind him. When he
rejoined the race he was much quicker again. Obviously lifting on the
straight like he did when I hit him is very dangerous. He has the
experience to know that you do not slow down on a straight like that
without giving any warning. So one could think he did it
deliberately."
Ferrari team boss joined Schumacher in his criticism over Coulthard,
saying: "What happened to Michael is very serious. He was stuck behind
Coulthard for over a lap, despite the waved blue flags. The McLaren
driver slowed down noticeably on the straight when doing around 200
km/h. The deceleration was violent and in the wet conditions the
impact was inevitable. The consequences of this incident could have
been much more serious."
However, David Coulthard rejected the accusation. "(Schumacher) came
into the garage saying that I tried to kill him...I find his behaviour
totally unacceptable. If he wanted to discuss it, man to man, there
wouldn't have been a problem. If he wants to accuse me of things like
that then I have no interest in talking to him. The allegations he
made were untrue. I have given my side of this. Michael Schumacher has
given his. I am 100 percent certain that I did nothing wrong. I could
see him coming from the the previous corner. In those conditions, like
that, you are not looking in your mirrors all the time. The team had
asked me to move across and tuck in on the right to keep out of his
way. I did that and then he just drove straight into the back of my
car. I did nothing wrong. I think what Michael said and did is
disgusting, especially accusing me of trying to kill him."
On another clash Shcumacher had with McLaren, the German also
commented, referring to the incident at the start which saw him
overtake Hakkinen, who subsequently spun out of the race. "At the
second start I was on the outside of Hakkinen and I tried to leave a
bit of room. He was forcing me a bit wide, but I had the better line
and could accelerate better out of the corner. It is very
disappointing to still be seven points behind in the championship,
when I could have left Spa with a three point lead."
auto-moto.201vpoznanovic,
>> Šta kako izgleda? Kad ti neko pri brzini od 200 na sat pred nosom ukoči
>> ko mutav (na 250 metara od krivine) kako to nazivaš. A podsetimo se da je
>> ove sezone Šumaher već imao problema sa sličnim budalama koje su pri
>> brzinama i od čak preko 300 km/h pokušavali nemoguće manevre od kojih je
>> neko mogao da pogine. Kad je Šumaher preduzeo takav manevar? Ajde,
>> osvetnici! I zašto Kultard taj ceo krug nije hteo da propusti bržeg vozača
>> nego je jurcao kao da je na prvom mestu a onda na najzgodnijem mestu
>> prikočio kao da je ugledao crnu mačku? Šta sad treba Irvajn da uradi u
>> Monci? Da se zakuca u Hakinena na ulasku u Parabolicu a mlaši Šumaher da
>> eliminiše Kultarda zaletanjem u box McLarena još pre kvalifikacija.
Prijatelju moj, vidim ja da i ti, kao i većina Šumaherovih obožavatelja
patiš od jednog vrlo specifičnog oblika amnezije. Svima vama koji
ga simpatizirate, u trenucima dok morališete o njegovom karakteru i
ljudskim vrijednostima treba da je pred očima slika događaja sa posljednje
trke prošle sezone, nečega što svakako prelazi okvire sportskog nadmetanja
i zalazi u oblast kriminalistike. Reći ću ti ono što sam mali milion puta
na raznim mjestima izjavio: Da Formula 1 nije je*eni biznis u kojem se
kao i u svakom drugom biznisu po svaku cijenu štiti onaj koji donosi
pare, Mihael Šumaher je zbog onog što je tada učinio, prema svim
civilizacijskim normama, trebao doživotno da izgubi superlicencu i da
bude krivično gonjen.
Neodređenost i tolerancija Međunarodne federacije za auto-sport iskazana
u tom incidentu, kao i u svim onima koji su mu prethodili i onima koji su
se desili ove sezone, morala je nešto da ima za posljedicu - kad može
Šumaher, što ne bi mogli i mi... s prljavima ne možeš izaći na kraj ako
i sam ne igraš prljavo...
auto-moto.202payce,
Pu bre...
Gledam ovde kako svi sere*e o Shumaheru i Kultardu...
A niko bre ni rech da kazhe o NAJBOLJEM VOZACHU SVIH VREMENA
Damonu Hillu zvanom BOG ;)
Po litrama kishe, na najgoroj stazi, pored pomahnitalih vozacha
Ferrarija i McLarena, ON je uspeo da se izbori za prvo mesto i
dokazhe da nije dzhabe Eddie faca uzeo njega u svoj patetichni
tim.
heheheh...
auto-moto.203ljubisha,
> Minimalna kazna za ovo sto je Kultard uradio bi trebala da bude ne
A šta je to on uradio? Kriv je što slepac nije dobro ocenio
razdaljinu kad je krenuo u preticanje?
>drugo. A kad je Shumaher krenuo da "nabode" Dejvida ovaj se usro ko pi*ka a
Tuko bi ja i šefa na poslu da to nije kažnjivo. :> Druga je priča
što je Kultard jedan od "najmirnijih" vozača za razliku od incidentnog
soma.
auto-moto.204ljubisha,
> Jesi ti ikad vozio bar karting, a da ne pričam o nečem jačem? I da li
Ne nemam vozačku, imam taksi. :) A što, ti si vozi formulu. A
pogotovo po onakvim uslovima.
auto-moto.205giovanni,
Ę? Mislim, formula stvarno postaje odvratna.
Izvini, molim te, zašto je to odvratna formula. To je formula 1! Ili bar
kako iskompleksirani misle da treba da izgleda F1.
auto-moto.206giovanni,
Ę? !? Pa do sudara je došlo pošto je Kultard izašao iz krivine i na snimku
Ę? se lepo vidi kako se drži desne strane staze. Nema ni govora o bilo
Ę? kakvom isecanju što ćeš i videti ako pogledaš snimak ponovo. Ono o čemu
Ę? se može
Pogledaj snimak i videćeš da se tom istom putanjom vozi cela trka jer se
tako priprema ulazak u sledeću levu krivinu. Da je Kultard hteo da
propusti Šumahera sklonio bi se desno (tj njegovo levo) i propustio
Mihaela. Tako svi normalni vozači rade kada ih neko obilazi za krug ili
više krugova.
Ę? par puta na TVu nisam primetio neke znake naglog kočenja a koji bi
Ę? svakako trebalo da se vide na onakvoj stazi. Možda grešim ali mi se čini
Ę? da
Tu gde je Kultard kočio se ide 200 i kusur na sat. On je drastično
smanjio brzinu što i slepac može da vidi. Ako ti u tome ne uspevaš onda mi
je stvarno žao ali postoje lekari koji se zovu oftalmolozi. Možda ti oni
pomognu. ;)
auto-moto.207giovanni,
Ę? njegova očigledna glupost i ne znanje. Kad ga je Šumaher već obišao
Ę? skoro ^^^^
neznanje
auto-moto.208giovanni,
Ę? Ha, obrati paznju na urlanje svabe od srece u Japanu prosle godine kada
Ę? mu je Eddie 'backmarker' Irvine obezbedio sansu da osvoji titulu.
Ne sećam se baš da je tada Irvajn nekome razvalio bolid i ugrozio život.
Ę? 0.3s my ass... pogledaj malo bolje.
Dobro. Bilo je 0,4.
auto-moto.209boyaan,
> sto je Kultard jedan od "najmirnijih" vozaca za razliku od incidentnog
> soma.
"Najmirnijih"? Slupati coveka pri brzini od 200 km/h, ti to nazivas mirnim?
Ili da ga nije mozda "slucajno" dokacio, slucajno mu se omakla noga i on
zakocio?
auto-moto.210junior,
> pare, Mihael Šumaher je zbog onog što je tada učinio, prema
> svim civilizacijskim normama, trebao doživotno da izgubi
> superlicencu i da bude krivično gonjen.
Vlade, kad se pozivaš na dotični incident, zanima me, da li misliš
da je i sa pokojnim Senom trebalo isto tako?
Ah, da, zaboravio sam .. Šumaher je đubre, a Senna je šašav ;)
Bre, skoro sve koje sam video ovde da pljuju Šumahera, lože se na
Zanardija .. ajde molim te, kaži šta bi tek trebalo tom manijaku
da urade?
> kad može Šumaher, što ne bi mogli i mi... s prljavima ne možeš
> izaći na kraj ako i sam ne igraš prljavo...
Pa rekoh ja, krvavi sport. Plaćene ubice na stazi .. lepo si to
zamislio. BTW, da li voliš Čikago zato što adekvatno odgovaraju
na prljavu igru Jute, ili zato što se drže svoje taktike, i svog
stila igre, bez obzira na bilo kog drugog, pa su opet najbolji?
BTW2, Šumahera napadaš samo da je đubre, šta će biti kad oduzmeš
taj argument? Ako i drugi vozači počnu isto tako da voze? Hoćeš
li i dalje pratiti formulu? Za koga ćeš da navijaš? Zašto? Koga
ćeš da pljuješ da je đubre?
A da se lepo oni skupe u ringu, pošto im bolidi očigledno nisu
potrebni..?
auto-moto.211giovanni,
Ę? Ne nemam vozačku, imam taksi. :) A što, ti si vozi formulu. A
Ę? pogotovo po onakvim uslovima.
Da.
auto-moto.212giovanni,
Ę? Prijatelju moj, vidim ja da i ti, kao i većina Šumaherovih obožavatelja
Ę? patiš od jednog vrlo specifičnog oblika amnezije. Svima vama koji
Hvala na dijagnozi ali je pogrešna. To što se dogodilo prošle godine je
samo nastavak nečega što se od kad postoji F1 uvek događalo, manje ili
više dramatično. Samo što su sada u pitanju goleme pare i što je nekima
žao što Šumaher za to što radi dobija 50M za dve sezone a neki svega
nekoliko miliona. O konkretnom incidentu je mnogo toga napisano i rečeno
ali ako ono treba da znači doživotnu diskvalifikaciju onda ni pola ostalih
vozača ne bi trebalo da ima licencu. A ja i dalje čekam odgovor na pitanje
kada je Mihael Šumaher nekome ugrozio život?
Ę? Neodređenost i tolerancija Međunarodne federacije za auto-sport iskazana
Ę? u tom incidentu, kao i u svim onima koji su mu prethodili i onima koji
Ę? su se desili ove sezone, morala je nešto da ima za posljedicu - kad može
Zato nisu bili tolerantni kada su dva tima dogovarala konačan rezultat
te iste trke prošle godine. Tada su preduzeli veoma stroge mere kojima su
za primer kaznili krivce, tako da drugima ne padne na um nešto slično.
auto-moto.213rades,
> A sta je to on uradio? Kriv je sto slepac nije dobro ocenio
> razdaljinu kad je krenuo u preticanje?
Bas da vidim kako bi ti ocenio razdaljinu da imas oblak vode
oko sebe.
auto-moto.214stefan,
>Mržnja je najgore osećanje koje čoveka može da obuzme. U svojoj bezumnoj
>mržnji prema Šumaheru ne vidite činjenice ni kada vas udaraju po licu.
>Nemate obraza da priznate da ste u stvari looseri. Jadni ste.
Ti se baš potresao zbog svega ovoga? :)
Ako ništa drugo, bar se rukovodi onim što si napisao u prvoj rečenici ;)
auto-moto.215kum.djole,
>> Nemate obraza da priznate da ste u stvari looseri. Jadni ste.
Auuuu.. Je l' tebi taj Šumaher dođe neki rod..?
auto-moto.216miko,
> ove sezone Sumaher vec imao problema sa slicnim budalama koje su pri
> brzinama i od cak preko 300 km/h pokusavali nemoguce manevre od kojih je
> neko mogao da pogine. Kad je Sumaher preduzeo takav manevar? Ajde,
Kao sto je na trci u Austriji Schu, totalno nebuloznim potezima, pokusavao
da predje Miku, pa se zamalo nije sam ubio ;))) Da ne pominjem jedno
5/6 pit lane speeding kazni ove sezone, pobedjivanje u Box-u (i to
bukvalno ;) , vec prezvakane incidente sa Hill-om i Villeneuve-om, pa
legendarnu Veljkovu pricu o Velikoj Nagradi u Makau kada je Schu, dok je
bio prvi, na jednom pravcu samo 'liznuo' kocnicu da bi se drugoplasirani
Hakkinen ili Frentzen (vise se i ne secam) zakucao u njega, pa potezanje
rodbinskih veza na stazi, pa obavezno propustanje od strane klupskog druga
na gotovo svakoj trci, pa gomila neregularnosti na bolidu dok je vozio za
Benetton najcesce u vezi sa tezinom bolida ili dimenzijama ploce na
podu bolida, cinjenica da ceo tim radi samo za njega i jedino za njega,
jos kada se doda cinjenica da ima velikih problema sa obilazenjem
zaostalih vozaca, dobije se prilicno jadna slika o nazovi velikom
vozacu Schumacher-u ... Posle onakvog zavrsetka prosle sezone, njemu nije
smelo biti dopusteno da vozi ove godine. Pre nego sto je onako besno
izasao iz bolida i hteo da se obracuna sa Coulthard-om, trebalo je da
se seti da 'sve se vraca i sve se placa' , kao i da 'ne bi trebalo raditi
drugom ono sto ne zelis da drugi radi tebi' ... I da ne bih isao dalje
sa mudrostima, umotvorinama i poslovicama, hteo bih samo da upitam sve
simpatizere Schumachera gde bi on sada bio da nisu Hill-u OTELI titulu 1994?
auto-moto.217miko,
> Ah, da, zaboravio sam .. Sumaher je dubre, a Senna je sasav ;)
Greh je njih dvojicu staviti u istu recenicu ... a sto se tice
poredjenja, veruj mi, ni Prost nije bio zlato. Taj je bio ono
sto kazu 'Smooth Operator' i ona dva incidenta izmedju njih
dvojice se nikako ne mogu povezivati sa onim sto je Schumacher
radio Hill-u i Villeneuve-u ... Osim ona dva incidenta 1989/90,
ja ne pamtim ni jedan ekces koji je Senna izazvao, a ne znam
da li znas za situaciju sa pocetka devedesetih godina, upravo
na VN Belgije kada se Eric Comas sa svojim Larousse-om razbio
o zid na treningu i jedini vozac koji je parkirao bolid pored i
pritrcao da mu pomogne, bio je Senna. Ono sto je on imao sa
Prost-om bilo je nesto posebno, dok Schumacher ima problema
sa, izgleda, svakim svojim protivnikom koji mu stane na put.
Seti se da dok je Senna vozio, vozili su i Lauda i Mansell i
Patrese i Nannini ... ni sa kim od njih nije imao problema.
Klasican primer fer pleja je trka u Madjarskoj 1989 kada je
punih 15 krugova Senna vozio na milimetar iza prvog Boutsen-a
koji je tada vozio za Williams i pokusavao da ga predje, ali
nije uspeo ... Boutsen je imao skroz propale gume i pit stop
manje, ali je uspeo da krvnickim naporima zaustavi Sennu. Mislis
li da bi se Schumacher, znajuci njegovu proslost, obuzdao u
toj situaciji? Tada se Senna isto tako borio za titulu, i sigurno
je mogao da pokusa neki suludi potez, ali nije ... Tako da
manimo se tih prica o sasavom Senni ... covek je vozio uvek
na ivici, ali uvek fer i posteno. Nikada nije bio umesan u
incident, osim dva puta sa Prostom, koji je tako nesto zasluzio i
koji uopste nije bio nevinasce u tim duelima. Kada covek
razmisli, Senna je u citavoj karijeri imao mozda samo pet
izletanja ... Monaco, Mexico, Portugal ... vrlo retko je pravio
greske, i kada forsira i kada vozi stalozeno, sto je za
Schumacher-a misaona imenica jer svaki put kada je on napadao
nekog bitnijeg vozaca, desio se incident, a svaki put kada je
forsirao, minimum jedan put je izleteo sa staze ...
auto-moto.218miko,
> Gledajte kako se Cobanin raduje, nakon sto mu je Dejv obezbedio
> prvo mesto u borbi za titulu. ;)
Sto nisi slao slike kako je tvoj cobanin plakao kada je mislio
da mi je Hill uzeo titulu, a nakon toga kako je skakao kada je
saznao da je i Damon odustao? ... Sto ne saljes onaj pateticno
bedni pogled u daljinu dok je gledao kako Villeneuve jezdi
ka tituli? ... Sto ne saljes kada je juce sav zajapuren isao
ka McLaren-ovom boksu da popije nokaut?
auto-moto.219junior,
FIA izdala saopštenje da je sudar između Kultarda i Šumahera,
uobičajena pojava, i da neće voditi istragu oko tog incidenta.
Dakle, priča završena. Čekamo Monzu ..;)
auto-moto.220ljubisha,
>Bas da vidim kako bi ti ocenio razdaljinu da imas oblak vode
Po takvom vremenu ne izlazim napolje. :)
A jel to možda priznanje da je šumi možda ipak sam kriv?
auto-moto.221ljubisha,
>ucestvovanje McLarena na sledecoj trci. Shumi nikad nije uradio ovako nesto,
Alo! Samo da se podsetimo kako je on u direktnom duelu sa Hilom
izvukao bolji kraj samo zato što ga je izbacio sa staze. I da se
podsetimo da je on posle trke izjavljivao kako su u pitanju bile
desetinke sekunde i da je on u tom momentu mislio da je razumno
postupio (sećaš se krivine?).
auto-moto.222ljubisha,
>Ortak je snimao trku .. ko mi pokaže da se prednji točkovi Hakinenovog
>bolida motaju u desno, skidam kapu. Čovek nije ni pokušao da skrene,
Što rekoh Stefanu, po meni je isto ovako. Sam je kriv.
>jedini cilj bio mu je da zatvori Šumahera.
ili je toliko glup da onda ispred sebe propusti Irvajna koji bi
ga kočio do bola sve dok ga šumi ne prestigne.
auto-moto.223ljubisha,
>BTW, da li možemo posle očigledne taktike Kultarda očekivati oduzimanje
Jel, da ti nemaš nekog u telemetrijskom odelenju? (samo da
primetim da je sramota da neko organizuje prenos trke a da nema
dve ili više kamera na startu)
Jednostavno, gledao si isto što i mi, verovatno si vraćao
snimak par puta (ako si snimao?) ali navijaš za njega ko da te
plaća Ferari. :(
auto-moto.224ljubisha,
>Nemate obraza da priznate da ste u stvari looseri. Jadni ste.
Ma ti si legenda!
auto-moto.225ljubisha,
> Opet ponavljam. Ko je GLEDAO trku ne bi izjavio ovakvu glupost.
Jel će ti biti malo lakše kad sam već priznao da si u
pravu za Hakinena? :)
auto-moto.226ljubisha,
> experience to know that you do not slow down on a straight like that
> without giving any warning. So one could think he did it
> deliberately."
Prosto da čovek poželi da od iduće sezone uvedu žmigavce i
trougao za sporije vozače. :(
auto-moto.227ljubisha,
>na raznim mjestima izjavio: Da Formula 1 nije je*eni biznis u kojem se
>kao i u svakom drugom biznisu po svaku cijenu štiti onaj koji donosi
>pare, Mihael Šumaher je zbog onog što je tada učinio, prema svim
>civilizacijskim normama, trebao doživotno da izgubi superlicencu i da
>bude krivično gonjen.
Sumnjam da će "protivnici" uopšte konstatovatu ovu poruku. :(
auto-moto.231ljubisha,
> Tu gde je Kultard kočio se ide 200 i kusur na sat. On je drastično
>smanjio brzinu što i slepac može da vidi. Ako ti u tome ne uspevaš onda mi
>je stvarno žao ali postoje lekari koji se zovu oftalmolozi. Možda ti oni
>pomognu. ;)
Dobro Stefane, jesam li ti rekao da nosiš naočare! :)
Ako Stefan i ima problema sa vidom ja nemam. A pošto nisam bio na
stazi mogu da se vadim i dobar signal BK u kombinaciji sa novim
videom i TDA trakom. A ta kombinacija kaže da nema šanse da se
golim okom dokaže da je Kultard smanjio brzinu. :)
auto-moto.232ljubisha,
> "Najmirnijih"? Slupati coveka pri brzini od 200 km/h, ti to nazivas mirnim?
>Ili da ga nije mozda "slucajno" dokacio, slucajno mu se omakla noga i on
>zakocio?
Da, najmirnijih bez navodnika za razliku od "majstora" šumija kome
se, vidi vraga, možda omakla noga pa je na onako malom rastojanju malko
više legao na gas kad je okrenuo volan na levo. Ipak je u pitanju, kolko
ono beše, 0.4sec.
auto-moto.233ljubisha,
> Greh je njih dvojicu staviti u istu recenicu ... a sto se tice
Ne, sramota je porediti Senu i šumija. Sena je bio prozivan
ali se posle par godina smirio i bio vozač za primer. šumi je
kažnjen (jaka stvar kad ionako nije bio prvak) i svi ga mrze
ali umesto da se opameti postaje sve gori. Umislio da je Bog
ili nešto slično. :(
auto-moto.234rades,
> A jel to mozda priznanje da je sumi mozda ipak sam kriv?
Nikako. To sam rekao, jer Sumi nije mogao da vidi kocenje
Kultarda i zato se zabio u njega. Pa ne bi bio toliko glup
da se zakuca, da je mogao da ga izbegne.
auto-moto.235boyaan,
Da li se zna ko ce voziti za Williams sledece sezone?
auto-moto.236junior,
> Klasican primer fer pleja je trka u Madjarskoj 1989 kada je
> punih 15 krugova Senna vozio na milimetar iza prvog Boutsen-a
> koji je tada vozio za Williams i pokusavao da ga predje, ali
Ma super, skidam kapu.
Ako nešto nisam sporio to su Sennini vozačni kvaliteti. Ako se
neko dokazao, to je bio on.
A što se tiče fer-playa, u situaciji kojoj je bio on, kad je
vozio za Mclaren, mogao je da si priušti takve zezancije, da
ne napada prvog, jer je imao samo jednog pravog konkurenta. A
sa njim nije libio da se skrlja.
Anyway .. pazi, meni lično nije krivo što je neko Šumaheru
pokazao gde spada ;), samo mi je žao što je to bio Kultard,
koji je do sada imao čist dosije, i žao mi je što bi to moglo
da eskalira u nešto mnogo gore, što se verovatno nikom ne bi
svidelo. Nikom od pravih ljubitelja formule, jer sam već čuo
komentare tipa "ma, neka se krljaju, baš je uzbudljivo". :(
> Schumacher-a misaona imenica jer svaki put kada je on napadao
> nekog bitnijeg vozaca, desio se incident, a svaki put kada je
> forsirao, minimum jedan put je izleteo sa staze ...
I šta si hteo da dokažeš? Da je Senna bio bolji od Šumahera? Pa
to valjda, niko normalan neće da spori.
auto-moto.237obren,
> Gledam ovde kako svi sere*e o Shumaheru i Kultardu...
> A niko bre ni rech da kazhe o NAJBOLJEM VOZACHU SVIH VREMENA
> Damonu Hillu zvanom BOG ;)
Tako je, red je da se proprati "one-two finish" momaka u žutom :)
Hil i uopšte Džordan su blistali celog vikenda tako da je podijum
bio gotovo izvestan, a evo uz malo sreće i prva pobeda za Džordan
i to dupla! :)
> Po litrama kishe, na najgoroj stazi, pored pomahnitalih vozacha
> Ferrarija i McLarena, ON je uspeo da se izbori za prvo mesto i
> dokazhe da nije dzhabe Eddie faca uzeo njega u svoj patetichni
> tim.
Tim je bio patetičan u početku sezone, a sada imaju jedan od
konkurentnijih bolida u šampionatu (treći ili četvrti po mom
mišljenju). Dolazak Pola Gaskoina na mesto glavnog konstruktora
i nova generacija Hondinih motora su preporodili tim. Sve su
šanse da će do kraja šampionata prestići posrnuli Beneton a
možda čak i Vilijams (!) u šampionatu konstruktora (zaostaju 6
odnosno 7 bodova za pomenutima).
Treba se podsetiti da su timovi za ovu sezonu morali da potpuno
redizajniraju stare šasije, što je velika otežavajuća okolnost
timovima skromnog budžeta u koje spada Jordan GP. Budžeti jednog
Ferarija, McLarena ili Wilijamsa su za red veličine veći od
Džordana.
Pored toga, setimo se da je i prošle godine Jordan-Peugeot bio
tim koji obećava, pri čemu su zasluge pripisivane "moćnom Pežoovom
motoru". Kada je došlo do zamene motora između Prosta i Džordana
svi su očekivali da će Prost GP biti "prijatno iznenađenje ovog
šampionata", a ispostavilo se da su totalno prsli.
Sa druge strane Jordan je takođe promenio "engine-supliera" pri
čemu je dobio potpuno nov motor koji se u vreme završetka prošle
sezone još nalazio na stolu za testiranje. Kada je trebalo da
ispitaju pouzdanost i performanse motora u novoj šasiji Alan Prost
je počeo da im pravi potpuno besmislene probleme, pozivajući se na
ekskluzivni ugovor sa Mugenom koji je isticao tek u februaru ove
godine (Peugeot mu nije isporučivao dovoljan broj motora pa je
pokušao da dođe do novog Mugen-Honda motora makar i na mesec dana
kako bi imao sa čime da testira novu šasiju).
Sve u svemu, Jordan je bukvalno sklepao bolid do početka šampionata,
što se moglo videti na prvoj trci, kada je Hilu toliko šetao zadnji
kraj bolida da je to bilo smešno.
Posle je bilo očajničkih pokušaja da se popravi aerodinamika pomoću
onih toranj-spojlera koji su ubrzo zabranjeni, zbog čega je Edi
Džordan uložio žalbu (spucao je nekoliko miliona funti u dizajniranje
i ispitivanje ovih dodataka da bi ih FIA naprasno zabranila).
Međutim, izgleda da su stali na noge, kako sa šasijom tako i sa motorom...
auto-moto.238obren,
> pa gomila neregularnosti na bolidu dok je vozio za Benetton najcesce
> u vezi sa tezinom bolida ili dimenzijama ploce na podu bolida,
Zaboravio si uređaj za kontrolu proklizavanja pri startovanju, koji je
imao na bolidu tokom cele sezone 1994 "ali nije ga koristio" ;>
auto-moto.239obren,
Direktor trke u SPA je nakon saslušanja oba vozača (Kultarda i Šumahera)
zaključio da je u pitanju samo još jedan trkački incident, tako da ni
jedan od umešanih vozača neće biti kažnjen ni na koji način.
Zanimljivo je da Ferrari izgleda nije uložio žalbu na ovu odluku niti
planira.
auto-moto.240miko,
> Zaboravio si uredaj za kontrolu proklizavanja pri startovanju, koji je
> imao na bolidu tokom cele sezone 1994 "ali nije ga koristio" ;>
Da, zaboravio sam ja toga stosta ;)))) Toliko ima materijala da je to
nepresusan izvor blamova, neregularnosti, drskosti, pokvarenosti i
patetike ... verovatno sam i ovde nesto zaboravio da dodam? ;>
auto-moto.241miko,
> A sto se tice fer-playa, u situaciji kojoj je bio on, kad je
> vozio za Mclaren, mogao je da si priusti takve zezancije, da
> ne napada prvog, jer je imao samo jednog pravog konkurenta. A
> sa njim nije libio da se skrlja.
O tome je vec bilo diskusije na sve strane ... poenta je da u
duelima izmedju Senne i Prosta, ovaj drugi nije bio nista
manje kriv, makar za jedan od ta dva incidenta. Sa druge strane,
i Schumacherovi navijaci su svesni postojanja ocigledne namere
sudaranja i sa Hill-om i sa Jacques-om ... Znaci, Senna se
krsio sa Prostom i obratno, dok se ovaj tvoj Schu krsi sa svim
zivim i nezivim na stazi (a i van nje ... ;)
> pokazao gde spada ;), samo mi je zao sto je to bio Kultard,
> koji je do sada imao cist dosije, i zao mi je sto bi to moglo
Cist dosije ne moze da ima covek koji je, mislim, jedini u F1
uspeo da izleti u krugu za zagrevanje ;))))
Ipak, od tada je dosta napredovao, sto pokazuje ova sezona, a
pogotovo protekla trka. David je sada savladao sve lekcije i
kandidovao se kao ozbiljan vozac za osvajanje mozda cak i
sampionske titule jednog dana. Vidis, ni Schumacher nikada ne
bi postao sampion da nije znao da skrsi konkurenta ;>
auto-moto.250giovanni,
Ę? Jel, da ti nemaš nekog u telemetrijskom odelenju? (samo da
Imam. Žan Tod mi je komšija. ;)
Ę? Jednostavno, gledao si isto što i mi, verovatno si vraćao
Ę? snimak par puta (ako si snimao?) ali navijaš za njega ko da te
Ę? plaća Ferari. :(
Snimao. I za Ferrari navijam skoro 20 godina, tj od kad pratim F1. Ali
to nikakve veze nema sa činjenicama sa ove trke. Sve ono što sam izneo se
veoma lako i jasno da videti i na snimcima.
auto-moto.251giovanni,
Ę? Ti se baš potresao zbog svega ovoga? :)
Ę? Ako ništa drugo, bar se rukovodi onim što si napisao u prvoj rečenici ;)
Nisam se potresao. Niti imam neke koristi od toga ko će biti pobednik na
kraju. Niti ikoga mrzim. Jednostavno cenim one koji znaju da voze i one
koji ne znaju ali su korektni i trude se nešto da nauče. Oni koji nemaju
pojma a prave se da su Bogom dani da sede u bolidu F1 u meni izazivaju
prezir. Mržnju ne mogu nikako. Ali, žalosno je što mnogi kod nas navijaju
za takve.
auto-moto.252giovanni,
Ę? Auuuu.. Je l' tebi taj Šumaher dođe neki rod..?
Nije mi nikakav rod. Ne znam zašto se nekom čini da mora da mi bude neko
rod da bih objektivno sagledao situaciju u kojoj i slepac može da razluči
šta se dogodilo.
auto-moto.253giovanni,
Ę? Alo! Samo da se podsetimo kako je on u direktnom duelu sa Hilom
Ę? izvukao bolji kraj samo zato što ga je izbacio sa staze. I da se
Ę? podsetimo da je on posle trke izjavljivao kako su u pitanju bile
Ę? desetinke sekunde i da je on u tom momentu mislio da je razumno
Ę? postupio (sećaš se krivine?).
Sećamo se svi. Samo, ne može da se poredi ta situacija i ova. Pre svega,
u pitanju je ulična trka kada je Šumaher krenuo da zatvori prolaz u desnoj
krivini a Hil se zaleteo i ostao uklješten između zida i Benettonove
formule. Hil još nije bio prišao na pola dužine Šumaherovog bolida. A
postoji i još jedna "sitna" razlika. Niko od njih nije išao brzinom od
preko 200km/h nego oko 80.
auto-moto.254giovanni,
Sve optužbe koje si nabrojao su bile predmet razmatranja raznih komisija
FIA i na sve su te komisije dale odgovor. Podsetiću te na jednu od
neregularnosti, onu sa podom bolida. Tada je diskvalifikovan nakon što je
drvenu dasku izbrusio o ivišnjak kada je izleteo iz krivine. Pit lane
speeding kazni je bilo 2 ili 3 i za svaku je bio kažnjen i odradio je
kaznu. Završetak trke u boxu je sasvim po pravilima FIA i ne vidim šta tu
ima da se prigovori Šumaheru ili Ferrariju. O ostalim glupostima ne želim
ni da raspravljam.
Ę? drugom ono sto ne zelis da drugi radi tebi' ... I da ne bih isao dalje
Ę? sa mudrostima, umotvorinama i poslovicama, hteo bih samo da upitam sve
Ę? simpatizere Schumachera gde bi on sada bio da nisu Hill-u OTELI titulu
Ę? 1994?
Niko nije OTEO titulu Hilu.
auto-moto.255giovanni,
Ę? nekog bitnijeg vozaca, desio se incident, a svaki put kada je
Ę? forsirao, minimum jedan put je izleteo sa staze ...
Ma ajde, molim te. Pričaš kao da nikad nisi gledao Sennu. Imao je i on
kretenskih izletanja.
auto-moto.256junior,
> Nije mi nikakav rod. Ne znam zašto se nekom čini da mora da mi
> bude neko rod da bih objektivno sagledao situaciju u kojoj i
> slepac može da razluči šta se dogodilo.
Pa dobro gio, onda i slepac može da shvati, da ga je Kultard SVETSKI
izradio, čak toliko dobro, da nije ni uslovnu kaznu popio. Jednostavno,
nakon ovakve trke, i ovakvog poteza Dejva, ostaje samo da ustaneš i da
aplaudiraš.
Prvenstvo još nije odlučeno, videćemo šta će se desiti u Monzi.
auto-moto.257ljubisha,
>Kultarda i zato se zabio u njega. Pa ne bi bio toliko glup
>da se zakuca, da je mogao da ga izbegne.
Ali zašto da ne!?! Pa šta je on, Supermen?
auto-moto.258ljubisha,
> Snimao. I za Ferrari navijam skoro 20 godina, tj od kad pratim F1. Ali
>to nikakve veze nema sa činjenicama sa ove trke. Sve ono što sam izneo se
>veoma lako i jasno da videti i na snimcima.
Da, ovo je već Rašomon sindrom. :) I ti i ja možemo samo da
nagađamo jer ma koliko dugo gledali snimak nema šanse da dokažemo
svoje tvrdnje. Ostaje nam samo navijačka strast a od nje je sve i
počelo. :)
auto-moto.259ljubisha,
>kraju. Niti ikoga mrzim. Jednostavno cenim one koji znaju da voze i one
>koji ne znaju ali su korektni i trude se nešto da nauče. Oni koji nemaju
>pojma a prave se da su Bogom dani da sede u bolidu F1 u meni izazivaju
A varijacije na temu jer nije sve crno i belo? Zna da vozi ali
nije korektan? Ko je to?
auto-moto.260ljubisha,
> Niko nije OTEO titulu Hilu.
šumi je niko? Tako dakle? Gubiš poverenje? :) Hronologija mi
je slaba strana ali zar nije šumi u direktom duelu za titulu
izgurao Hila i imao bod više (94-ta)?
auto-moto.261junior,
> sudaranja i sa Hill-om i sa Jacques-om ... Znaci, Senna se
> krsio sa Prostom i obratno, dok se ovaj tvoj Schu krsi sa svim
> zivim i nezivim na stazi (a i van nje ... ;)
Ti baš ne čitaš šta ja pišem. ;)
Obojica su se kršili samo sa direktnim konkurentima. To što je
Senna tada imao samo jednog, je njegova velika prednost. Anyway,
ne mogu da se pohvalim da sam gledao Sennu dovoljno dobro da bih
mogao da dam ozbiljan komentar njegove vožnje, ali mislim da je
statistika prilično egzaktna. Pogledaj Senninu, i izbroji udese,
a tu su samo oni zbog kojih nije završio trku.
1984 - FORMULA 1 (Toleman TG1838 Hart)
DATE GP CIRCUIT CL. COMMENTS
25/03 GP do Brasil Rio Abandon Turbo
07/04 GP Africa do Sul GPKyalami 6
29/04 GP da Begica Zolder 6
06/05 GP di San Marino Imola Nao largou Fuel pump
20/05 GP de France Dijon Abandon Turbo
03/06 GP de Monaco Monte Carlo 2 Best Lap
17/06 GP Canada Montreal 7
24/06 GP Detroit Detroit Abandon Mec. Problems
08/07 GP Dallas Dallas Abandon Mec. Problems
22/07 GP Inglaterra Brands Hatch 3
05/08 GP Alemanha Hockenheim Abandon Rear wing
19/08 0sterreich Osterreichrin Abandon Oil pressure
26/08 Nederlands Zandvoort Abandon Motor
09/09 GP Italia Monza
07/10 GP Europa Nuburgring Abandon Collision
21/10 GP Portugal Estoril 3
9 in championship - 13 points.
One Best Lap (Monaco - RAIN).
1985 - FORMULA 1 (Lotus 97T 1 RenauIt)
DATE GP CIRCUIT CL. COMMENTS
07/04 GP Brasil Rio Abandon Electrical problems
21/04 GP Portugal Estoril 1 Pole/Best Lap
05/05 GP San Marino Imola 7 Pole/Abandon
19/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo Abandon Pole/motor
16/06 GP Canada Montreal 16 Best Lap/pit stop
23/06 GP Detroit Detroit Abandon Pole/Best Lap/Crash
07/07 GP Franca Paul Ricard Abandon Motor/Crash
21/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone 10 Fuel pump
04/08 GP Alemanha Nurburgring Abandon Stearing
18/08 GP Osterreich Osterreich. 2
25/08 GP Nederlands Zandvoort 3
08/09 GP Italia Monza 3 Pole
15/09 GP Belgica Spa 1
06/10 GP Europa Brands Hatch 2 Pole
19/10 GP Africa Sul Kyalami Abandon Motor
03/11 GP Australia Adelaide Abandon Pole/motor
Fourth in championship - 38 points.
Two victories (Portugal e Belgium )
Seven pole-positions and three best laps.
1986 - FORMULA 1 (Lotus 98T 1 Renault)
23/03 GP Brasil Rio 2 Pole/Crash com Mansel
13/04 GP Espanha Jerez 1 Pole
27/04 GP San Marino Imola Abandon Pole/rolamento roda TD
11/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo 3
25/05 GP BÚlgica Spa 2
15/06 GP Canada Montreal 5
22/06 GP Detroit Detroit 1 Pole
06/07 GP Franca Paul Ricard Abandon SaÝda de pista
13/07 GP Inglaterra Brands Hatch Abandon Caixa de velocidades
27/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 2
10/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 2 Pole
17/08 GP Osterreich Osterreichring Abandon Motor
07/09 GP Italia Monza Abandon Transmissao
21/09 GP Portugal Estoril 4 Pole
12/10 GP Mexico Mexico 3 Pole
26/10 GP Australia Adelaide Abandon Motor
Quarto no campeonato - 55 pontos.
Duas vitˇrias (Espanha e Detroit)
Sete pole-positions.
1987 - FORMULA 1 (Lotus 99T 1 Honda)
12/04 GP Brasil Rio Abandon Motor
03/05 GP San Marino Imola 2 Pole
17/05 GP Belgica Spa Abandon Crash com Mansel
31/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo 1 Best Lap
21/06 GP Detroit Detroit 1 Best Lap
05/07 GP Franca Paul Ricard 4
12/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone 3
26/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 3
09/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 2
16/08 GP Osterreich Osterreichring 5
06/09 GP Italia Monza 2 Best Lap
20/09 GP Portugal Estoril 7 Pit stop/prob. acelerador
27/09 GP Espanha Jerez 5 Problemas de pneus
18/10 GP Mexico Mexico Abandon Piao/motor parado
01/11 GP Japao Suzuka 2
15/11 GP Australia Adelaide Nao largou Desclassiticado
Terceiro no campeonato - 57 pontos.
Quatro segundos lugares e Dois terceiros.
Uma pole-position Trees melhores voltas.
1988- FORMULA 1 (McLaren MP4-4 Honda)
DATE GP CIRCUIT CL. COMMENTS
03/04 GP Brasil Rio Pole/Disqualified
01/05 GP San Marino Imola 1 Pole
15/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo Abandon Pole/Best Lap/batida
29/05 GP MÚxico Mexico 2 Pole
12/06 GP Canada Montreal 1 Pole/Best Lap
19/06 GP Detroit Detroit 1 Pole
03/07 GP Franca Paul Ricard 2
10/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone 1
24/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 1 Pole
08/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 1 Pole
28/08 GP Belgica Spa 1 Pole
11/09 GP Italia Monza Abandon Pole
25/09 GP Portugal Estoril 6 Pit stop/crash with
Mansell
02/10 GP Espanha Jerez 4 Pole/pit stop
30/10 GP Japao Suzuka 1 Pole/Best Lap
13/11 GP Australia Adelaide 2 Pole
World Champion - 90 points.
Eight victories.
Twelve Pole-Positions and three Best Laps.
1989- FORMULA 1 (McLaren MP4-5 1 Honda)
26/03 GP Brasil Jacarepagua 11 Pole
23/04 GP San Marino Enzo e Dino F. 1 Pole
07/05 GP Monaco Monte Cano 1 Pole
28/05 GP Mexico Hermanos Rod. 1 Pole
04/06 GP USA Phoenix Abandon Pole/Best Lap
18/06 GP Canada Gilies Vil. 7
09/07 GP Franca Paul Ricard Abandon Diferential
16/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone Abandon Pole/acidente
30/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 1 Pole/Best Lap
13/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 2
27/08 GP Belgica Spa 1 Pole
10/09 GP ltalia Monza Abandon Pole/motor
24/09 GP Portugal Estoril Abandon Pole/spin
01/10 GP Espanha Jerez 1 Pole/Best Lap
22/10 GP JapŃo Suzuka Desistiu Pole/Best Lap
05/11 GP Australia Adelaide Abandon Pole/Colision
Second in World Championship - 60 points.
Six victories.
thirteen Pole-Positions and four Best Laps.
1990- FORMULA 1 (McLaren MP4-5B 1 Honda)
11/02 GP USA Phoenix 1
25/03 GP Brasil Jose Carlos 3 Pole
13/05 GP San Marino Enzo e Dino F. Abandon Pole/mechanical problems
27/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo 1 Pole/Best Lap
10/06 GP Canada GilIes Vill. 1 Pole
24/06 GP Mexico Hermanos Rod. 2
09/07 GP Franca Paul Ricard 3
15/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone 3
29/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 1 Pole
12/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 2
26/08 GP Belgica Spa 1 Pole
09/09 GP ltalia Monza 1 Pole/Best Lap
23/09 GP Portugal Estoril 2
30/09 GP Espanha Jerez Abandon Pole/motor problems
21/10 GP JapŃo Suzuka Abandon Pole
04/11 GP Australia Adelaide Abandon Pole
World Champion - 78 points.
Six victories.
Ten Pole-Positions and two Best Laps.
1991 - FORMULA 1 (McLaren MP4-6 1 Honda)
10/03 GP USA Phoenix 1 Pole
24/03 GP Brasil Jose Carlos 1 Pole/Best Lap
28/04 GP San Marino Enzo e Dino F. 1 Pole
12/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo 1 Pole
02/06 GP Canada Gilles Vill. Abandon motor
16/06 GP Mexico Hermanos Rod. 3
07/07 GP Franca Magny-Cours 3
14/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone 4 Abandon /out of fuel
28/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 7 Abandon
11/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 1 Pole
25/08 GP Belgica Spa 1 Pole
08/09 GP Italia Monza 2 Pole/Best Lap
22/09 GP Portugal Estoril 2
29/09 GP Espanha Catalunha 5
20/10 GP Japao Suzuka 2
03/11 GP Australia Adelaide 1 Pole
World Champion - 96 points.
Seven victories.
Eight Pole-Positions and two Best Laps.
1992- FORMULA 1 (McLaren MP4-7A 1 Honda)
01/03 GP Africa Sul Kyalami 3
22/03 GP Mexico Hermanos Rod. Abandon Motor
05/04 GP Brasil Jose Carlos Abandon Motor
03/05 GP Espanha Montemelo Abandon Motor
17/05 GP San Marino Enzo e Dino F. 3
31/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo 1
14/06 GP Canada Gillies Vill. Abandon Pole/Motor
05/07 GP de Franca Magny-Cours Abandon Colision
12/07 GP Inglaterra Silverstone Abandon Motor
26/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 2
16/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring 1
30/08 GP Belgica Spa 5
13/09 GP Italia Monza 1
27/09 GP Portugal Estoril 3 Best Lap
25/10 GP Japao Suzuka Abandon Motor
8/11 GP Australia Adelaide Abandon Colision
Fourh in Championship - 50 points.
Tree victories.
One Pole-Position and one Best Lap.
1993 - FORMULA 1 (McLaren MP4-8 1 Ford)
14/03 GP Africa Sul Kyalami 2
28/03 GP Brasil Jose Carlos 1
11/03 GP Europa Donington 1 Best Lap
25/03 GP MarinoEnzo Imola Abandon Oil pressure
09/05 GP Espanha Catalunha 2
23/05 GP Monaco Monte Carlo 1
13/06 GP Canada Gillies Vill. 1
04/07 GP Franca Magny-Cours 4
11/07 GP Inglaterra Donington?? 5
25/07 GP Alemanha Hockenheim 4
15/08 GP Hungria Hungaroring Abandon
29/08 GP Belgica Spa 4
13/09 GP Italia Monza Abandon Colision
26/09 GP Portugal Estoril Abandon Motor
24/10 GP Japao Suzuka 1
07/11 GP Australia Adelaide 1 Pole
Second in World Championship - 73 points.
Five victories.
One Pole-Position and Best Lap.
1994-FORMULA 1 (Williams FW-16 Renault)
27/03 GP Brasil Interlagos Abandon Pole/Spin
17/04 GP Pacifico Aida Abandon Pole/accident
01/05 GP San Marino Imola Abandon Pole/Fatal accident
Tree pole-positions.
Tree abandons.
auto-moto.262junior,
Kad smo već kod Senne, evo i male statistike, za sve fanove koji
ovo nisu imali. Uz poruku je i par slika, od čega jedna prelepa
fotka njegove kacige. BTW, u prvoj statistici nema Šumahera,
stvarno bi pokvario ovakvu sliku ...
POLE POSITIONS VICTORIES LAPS IN FRONT
Ayrton Senna 65 Alain Prost 51 Ayrton Senna 3024
Jim Clark 33 Ayrton Senna 41 Alain Prost 2710
Alain Prost 33 Nigel Mansell 30 Nigel Mansell 2059
Nigel Mansell 31 Jackie Stewart 27 Jim Clark 2039
Juan M.Fangio 28 Niki Lauda 25 J. Stewart 1893
In Memoriam: Ayrton Senna.
BIOGRAPHY: A Y R T O N S E N N A (BRA)
Date of birth: 21st of March 1960 GP-Starts: 161
Died: 1st of May 1994 Pole-P.: 65
Place of birth: Sao Paulo/BRA Wins: 41
Resident: Monte Carlo, Sao Paulo GP-Points: 615
WC-Titles: 3
Height 1,75 m (5ft 9ins)
Weight: 70 kg (155 lbs)
Marital status: divorced, girlfriend Adriane
Children: -
Learned profession: business studies
Hobbies: model aircrafts
Sports: jet-ski, waterskiing, tennis, jogging
Favourite music: "Everything good - from pop to classical."
Favourite food: fruit, typical Brazilian food
Favourite drink: Guarana
Start of
racing career: Go-karts at the age of 4 (!), first go-kart-
races at the age of 13
First racing car: 1981 - Formula Ford 1600, van Diemen
First success: 1977 Panamerican Kart-Champion
1979, 1980 runner-up Kart-World Championship
Most memorable
experience: "Clinching the 1988 World Championship by
winning the Japanese GP at Suzuka."
Career: 1981 - Brit. Formula Ford 1600, Champion
1982 - Formula Ford 2000,
British and European Champion
1983 - British F-3-Championship, champion
1984 - F1 Toleman-Hart, 13 points, 9th
1985 - F1 Lotus-Renault, 38 points, 4th,
1st GP victory in Portugal
1986 - F1 Lotus-Renault, 55 points, 4th
1987 - F1 Lotus-Honda, 57 points, 3rd
1988 - F1 Marlboro-McLaren-Honda, 94 points,
World Champion
1989 - F1 Marlboro-McLaren-Honda, 60 points
World Championship runner-up
1990 - F1 Marlboro-McLaren-Honda, 78 points,
World Champion
1991 - F1 Marlboro-McLaren-Honda, 96 points,
World Champion
1992 - F1 Marlboro-McLaren-Honda, 50 p., 4th
1993 - F1 Marlboro-McLaren-Ford, 73 points
World Championship runner-up
1994 - F1 Williams-Renault
1994 - 1 May: died of head injuries caused
at an accident at the San Marino GPh
senna.zipauto-moto.263junior,
Sad vidim da mi je Sezamov editor prilično izlomio poruku, koju sam pola
sata sređivao .. izgleda se ne snalazi baš sa 'tabovima', no dobro .. za
one koji žele statistiku u lepom obliku, evo je u 4 html dokumenta.
senastat.zipauto-moto.264stefan,
> Nisam se potresao.
Ma daj bre, poruke su ti kao da si se ti lično skucao u nekog sezamovca :)
Bez razloga si uvredljiv prema ljudima koji iz ovih ili onih razloga nemaju
isto mišljenje prema ovom incidentu a sada vidimo da čak i FIA (čije
mišljenje ti kako vidim u jednoj od poruka ceniš :) tvrdi da si ti nešto
utripovao ;) A toliko je sve to bilo "očigledno" da Ferari ne želi da se žali.
auto-moto.265rades,
>> Pa ne bi bio toliko glup
>> da se zakuca, da je mogao da ga izbegne.
>
> Ali zasto da ne!?! Pa sta je on, Supermen?
Ne kazem da je Supermen, ali razmisli malo - da ti vodis
trku, da pobedom stizes na prvo mesto u generalnom plasmanu,
da li bi se ti zakucao tako (da ne moras)?? Nije on toliko
glup koliko ti zelis da ga predstavis.
auto-moto.266ljubisha,
>da li bi se ti zakucao tako (da ne moras)?? Nije on toliko
>glup koliko ti zelis da ga predstavis.
Naravno da nije ali pored tolikog idolopoklonstva kojeg
gajite prema njemu pitao sam se da li ste se zapitali da je
možda ipak on pogrešio.
auto-moto.267giovanni,
Ę? A varijacije na temu jer nije sve crno i belo? Zna da vozi ali
Ę? nije korektan? Ko je to?
Ricardo Rosset. ;)
auto-moto.268pecanac,
Neke slike sa trke u Belgiji.
belg-mer.zipauto-moto.269rades,
> Naravno da nije ali pored tolikog idolopoklonstva kojeg
> gajite prema njemu pitao sam se da li ste se zapitali da je
> mozda ipak on pogresio.
Slazem se da treba pogledati i sa te strane. I kad pogledamo -
nije pogresio. ;)
auto-moto.270vpoznanovic,
>> Vlade, kad se pozivaš na dotični incident, zanima me, da li misliš
>> da je i sa pokojnim Senom trebalo isto tako?
>>
>> Ah, da, zaboravio sam .. Šumaher je đubre, a Senna je šašav ;)
Slušaj me sad pažljivo, Milane...
Ayrton Senna je u prvih 4-5 godina svoje karijere vozio agresivno i
nepromišljeno, bio je neoprezan, neiskusan i pun želje za dokazivanjem,
što ga je koštalo mnogih incidenata, ali Ayrton Senna nikad nije
NAMJERNO udario drugog vozača s ciljem da ga izbaci sa staze. Michael
Schumacher je uradio upravo to - promijenio je putanju i podmuklo i
smišljeno udario konkurenta, s ciljem da ga onesposobi za daljnje
takmičenje, čime mu je direktno ugrozio život.
Kad u Formuli 1 na taj način pokušaš da se oslobodiš konkurencije, to
jedva da se razlikuje od pokušaja ubistva prvog stepena, a ono je po svim
zakonima itekako kažnjivo. Motiv postoji, tu su vizuelni dokazi, na kraju
krajeva, tu je i priznanje... samo nema adekvatne kazne. Nije ti to
atletika, pa kad nekog izguraš sa staze, on samo padne na pod i ugruva
se. U čemu bi uopšte trebala da je razlika između tog slučaja i situacije
u kojoj bi tebe neko namjerno udario kolima u pokušaju da te izbaci sa
autoputa?
Zaključak: Kad je Senna sazreo kao vozač, nestali su i svi negativni
elementi u njegovoj vožnji. Sa svojih sedam godina u Formuli 1,
Schumacher je zreo vozač, ali njegova beskrupulozna i podmukla ličnost
nije nešto što na taj način može nestati.
>> Bre, skoro sve koje sam video ovde da pljuju Šumahera, lože se na
>> Zanardija .. ajde molim te, kaži šta bi tek trebalo tom manijaku
>> da urade?
Alex Zanardi je ušao u jednu kritičnu fazu. Prošle godine je osvojio
titulu, ove nadmoćno vodi, i sada, osjećajući tu svoju dominaciju,
pomalo gubi kontrolu i pokušava svoju superiornost da dokaže i na jedan
nedozvoljen i opasan način. Apsolutno ne opravdavam njegove poteze, ali
opet ponavljam, Alex Zanardi ni u jednoj prilici nije NAMJERNO udario
drugog vozača s ciljem da ga izbaci sa staze i onesposobi.
U svakom slučaju ga treba kazniti, ali ne samo novčano. Uopšte, ja lično
sam za bezuslovne kazne diskvalifikacija sa trka tekuće ili naredne
sezone, jer se samo na taj način vozaču može uskratiti mogućnost
napredovanja u šampionatu, čije osvajanje je (naravno, uz bogaćenje i
sticanje popularnosti) ipak njegov krajnji cilj, i to na način da to važi
za sve vidove i oblike auto-moto takmičenja, ako je ikako moguće.
>> Pa rekoh ja, krvavi sport. Plaćene ubice na stazi .. lepo si to
>> zamislio. BTW, da li voliš Čikago zato što adekvatno odgovaraju
>> na prljavu igru Jute, ili zato što se drže svoje taktike, i svog
>> stila igre, bez obzira na bilo kog drugog, pa su opet najbolji?
Čekaj, očigledno je da si ono 'mi' u rečenici pogrešno protumačio...
Ono nema nikakve veze sa mnom, ja niti sam simpatizer McLarena, niti za
njih navijam, to je trebalo da zvuči kao njihova konstatacija a ne moja.
Samim tim ne vidim potrebu da odgovaram ni na pitanje koje si mi
postavio, odgovor na njega je sam po sebi jasan.
Ono što želim da se zna, kad je u pitanju moje lično opredjeljenje, je
činjenica da bi mi bilo draže da Mika Hakkinen osvoji titulu ove godine,
jednostavno zato što ju je više zaslužio. Da me opet neko ne bi povezao
sa McLarenom, i prošle godine sam iz istog razloga bio zadovoljan što je
titulu uzeo Villeneuve.
>> BTW2, Šumahera napadaš samo da je đubre, šta će biti kad oduzmeš
>> taj argument? Ako i drugi vozači počnu isto tako da voze? Hoćeš
>> li i dalje pratiti formulu? Za koga ćeš da navijaš? Zašto? Koga
>> ćeš da pljuješ da je đubre?
Naravno, svi koji pažljivo čitaju moje poruke znaju da nikad nisam
osporavao njegov talenat i osjećaj za vožnju. Uvijek sam samo isticao
kako mi je žao, da se poslužim tvojom terminologijom :), što je jedno
takvo đubre od čovjeka dobilo od prirode na poklon takav dar.
Ako i drugi vozači počnu da se ponašaju kao on (vrlo strogo gledano), u
Formuli 1 neće više biti onoga što me je njoj privuklo, što znači da će
moja motivacija za njeno praćenje značajno opasti. A i ako bih je tada
pratio, ni za koga ne bih navijao, kao što ne navijam ni sada.
Pitanje je isuviše hipotetičko da bi na njega mogao da se da odgovor koji
će se moći uzeti zdravo-za-gotovo. Zato smatram da nema potrebe da ulazim
u daljnju diskusiju niti da posebno odgovaram na podpitanja koja si mi
postavio. Samo ću nešto da konstatujem... prihvatio si se jednog vrlo
nezahvalnog posla - odbrane Michaela Schumachera.
auto-moto.271vpoznanovic,
>> Hvala na dijagnozi ali je pogrešna. To što se dogodilo prošle godine je
>> samo nastavak nečega što se od kad postoji F1 uvek događalo, manje
>> ili više dramatično. Samo što su sada u pitanju goleme pare i što je nekima
>> žao što Šumaher za to što radi dobija 50M za dve sezone a neki svega
>> nekoliko miliona.
Otkad postoji, Formulom 1 kruže velike pare; od prve trke, u Formuli 1
prisutna je velika konkurencija. To što se desilo, bilo ono posljedica
ili nastavak bilo čega, samo po sebi nema nikakvo opravdanje. Nikakva
žal, zavist, ljubomora, ili bilo šta drugo, ni na koji način ne može da
opravda promišljen pokušaj izbacivanja sa staze, a samim tim i svjesno
ugrožavanje života jednog vozača od strane drugog, a to je upravo ono
što je Michael Schumacher uradio.
Lako je sada kalkulisati činjenicama i tražiti razloge, znajući da se
ništa ozbiljno nije desilo. Ali šta bi bilo da se tom prilikom desilo
nešto malo dramatičnije, da je na primjer neko poginuo? Bernie Ecclestone
slaže milijarde i priča o sigurnosti Formule 1, a kad mu vozač nastrada
na stazi, mijenja pravila takmičenja i tehničke pojedinosti na bolidima.
Nikad mu nije palo na pamet da skloni onoga ko je u stanju da namjerno
izazove nesreću i da tako ostalima učini život sigurnijim.
>> O konkretnom incidentu je mnogo toga napisano i rečeno ali ako ono
>> treba da znači doživotnu diskvalifikaciju onda ni pola ostalih vozača
>> ne bi trebalo da ima licencu. A ja i dalje čekam odgovor na pitanje
>> kada je Mihael Šumaher nekome ugrozio život?
Kad budeš u stanju da praviš razliku između (zlo)namjere i slučaja
izazvanog nepažnjom, neopreznošću ili neiskustvom, onda možemo da
nastavimo diskusiju.
Drugo pitanje me navodi na zaključak da ili je tvoj prag tolerancije u
shvatanju ugroženosti ljudskog života vidno pomjeren, što nikako ne može
biti dobra osobina, ili da prosto ne možeš da se suočiš sa činjenicom da
je tvoj idol mogao da dovede u pitanje nečiji život. Psiholozi bi rekli
da su karakterne podudarnosti osnova vezivanja jedne osobe za drugu,
drugim riječima, da nije nimalo slučajno što baš ti navijaš za Michaela
Schumachera.
Eto, još malo dijagnoze, free of charge. Molim te, pročitaj pažljivo sve
što sam napisao, da ubuduće ne bi postavljao tako neprikladna pitanja.
>> Zato nisu bili tolerantni kada su dva tima dogovarala konačan rezultat
>> te iste trke prošle godine. Tada su preduzeli veoma stroge mere
>> kojima su za primer kaznili krivce, tako da drugima ne padne na um
>> nešto slično.
Malverzacija i manipulacija u Formuli 1 je bilo i biće, neke su kažnjene,
neke nisu, ali pobogu, to je najmanje opasan (da ne kažem bezopasan)
segment tog posla, mi ovde pričamo o namjeri da se vozač ukloni sa staze,
čime mu se direktno ugrožava život! To je poenta, shvati je već jednom.
auto-moto.272junior,
> Kad u Formuli 1 na taj način pokušaš da se oslobodiš
> konkurencije, to jedva da se razlikuje od pokušaja ubistva
> prvog stepena, a ono je po svim zakonima itekako kažnjivo.
Što se Mihajla tiče, već sam rekao, da se ne ponavljam. Ono 94-e je bilo,
šta je bilo. Isto može da važi, što i za Sennu, bio je mlad, borio se za
prvu svoju titulu, logično je da se tad urade neki potezi zbog kojih se
kasnije pokaješ. FIA je isto tako mislila. Nije ga kaznila. Ali, prošle
godine, Šumaher me stvarno razočarao. Nije bilo razloga da lupa Vilneva,
već je on dovoljno u toj formuli, da prihvati poraz. Neću sad na Sezamu da
se upuštam u analizu Šumaherove ličnosti iako sam se lično malo, možda i
malo više bavio time. U stvari, moram ..;)
Po meni, Šumaherov najveći problem je Senna. Zbog njegovog stila vožnje
u mladim danima, a nakon pogibije Senne, nije teško bilo ga prozvati
naslednikom, jednog velikog majstora. Isto tako, koliko god to tragično
bilo, njegov veliki problem je što u ovakvoj formuli kakva jeste, on nema
pravog konkurenta. Nema ni jednog vozača koji može da mu se približi po
vozačkom znanju i talentu, ni da mu prismrdi. On stoga, sa sobom, zadnjih
par godina, vuče breme "najboljeg vozača", "naslednika Senne", uostalom,
ne dobija čovek 50 mil. maraka za godinu dana, na lepe oči.
Međutim, sve to ga stiže. Već par puta je izgubio titulu, od očigledno
inferiornijih vozača od njega, ljudi ga kritikuju, uvek se čuju povike
"jeste on dobar, ali nije Senna" i taj pritisak je po meni suviše velik
za Šumahera. Sve se češće vidi da pravi neke greške koje nikad nisu
bile svojstvene njemu. Što je miko napisao pre par poruka - Senna je
forsirao, ali je retko kad grešio. Danas, vidimo Šumahera koji forsira
bez potrebe, u Mađarskoj, u Kanadi, pa i pre neki dan, u Belgiji. Ništa
njega nije teralo, niti mu je u životu trebalo da forsira Dejvida na
onakav način. Mogao je da vozi iza Dejva 5 krugova, da ode u box, i da
se opet vrati prvi na stazu sa 5-10 sekundi fore ispred Dejmona.
Ne, nije on forsirao zato što mu je trebala pobeda, već zato što mu
treba "priznanje". U njegovoj glavi, ili u glavama drugih ljudi, to već
ne znam. Ali je zasigurno mora da ima mentalni problem, kad čovek koji
ima 2 titule svetskog šampiona iza sebe, koji ima 32 pobede na svom
kontu, koji će za 4 godine dobiti 200 mil. maraka od svog tima, i koga
svi priznaju kao najboljeg vozača u formuli 1 danas, a on se i dalje ne
oseća sigurnim u sebe i dovoljno cenjenim.
Senna takvih problema nije imao. Vozio je sa velikim majstorima, i kad
bi izgubio od nekog od njih, tu nije bilo podsmevanja, zajebancije. Zar
je sramota uostalom izgubiti titulu od jednog Mansella ili Prosta?
Upravo taj nedostatak kvalitetne konkurencije, među vozačima (napominjem)
je ono što Šumahera ubija iz trke u trku. Da jedan Prost vozi za Mclaren,
i da se Šumaher ovako junački nosi sa njima, drži na 7 bodova, pa on bi
bio više slavljen od tog Prosta, koji bi na kraju sigurno i uzeo titulu.
Da ne dužim dalje ... Da li će on prevazići taj problem, to ne znam, voleo
bih da ga to učini. Možda će ga ovaj incident opametiti, naučiti ga, da
počne da uvažava druge vozače, i konačno, da vozi samo zbog vožnje, zbog
uživanja u njoj, zbog sebe.
Kad bi Šumaher, u svaku trku, ušao sa jednom mirnoćom, smiren, spokojan,
koncentrisan, bez brige da će ga neko hvaliti ili kuditi, bez ikakvih briga
na svetu sem da vozi, najbolje što može i najbolje što ume, verujem da bi
ga svi koji ga sad pljuju stavili bez ikakve sramote u onu tabelu koju sam
poslao, u tabelu stvarno najvećih majstora Formule 1. Ukoliko to ne uradi,
ukoliko nastavi sa ovakvom vožnjom, ne shvatajući da nisu cifre ono što
donosi priznanje vozaču (jel' ovaj naš senna rekao "ma može Šumaher da ima
32 pobede, ali i ti i ja dobro znamo da nije ni da prismrdi drugom, a
nema šanse da je bolji od četvrtog"?) već njegov stil vožnje, i način kako
se ophodi prema drugim vozačima, nikad neće ostati upamćen...
Bar ne po dobru.
PS. Ko je dogurao dovde, hvala mu. Posle ovog teksta verovatno misli da
sam kreten, ali čim je došao dovde, shvatam da je bar nekad cenio moje
mišljenje. ;)
auto-moto.273obren,
Nakon što se malo smirio nakon incidenta u Spa, Šumaher je dao mini izjavu
jednom nemačkom novinaru:
-----------
"I don't think I've ever been as angry as I am now," said today Michael
Schumacher, in his first interview after the Belgian Grand Prix.
Schumacher talked with the German reporter, Enrico Chiara, for the Michael
Schumacher Website.
"It was so clear that we would lead the championship after this race,"
said Schumacher. "There wasn't any reason to think differently - I was the
fastest driver yesterday." Referring to his incident with David Coulthard,
which saw him retire on lap 25, Schumacher said: "Why was David lapping at
around 2:10s and when I showed up behind him, he began to lap at around
2:16s? And why did he slowed so suddenly?"
Chiara: "Are you thinking that David Coulthard tried to...."
Michael Schumacher: "...I think that this is a strange thing. I was forced
to crash against him. Is there any connection with the fact that I'm
challenging his team-mate for the title?"
Chiara: "Did you really shout 'You wanted to kill me!' at Coulthard?"
Michael Schumacher: "Yes, that is true. I was blinded with rage. An
experienced driver like him knows exactly that in these wet conditions you
cannot slow down so suddenly on a straight, it is very dangerous."
Chiara: "Don't you think that you over-reacted?"
Michael Schumacher: "No. I was trying to pass him for two laps, so I asked
Jean Todt to go to Ron Dennis and protest. If he wanted to let me pass he
could leave me some room in the corner, not on a dangerous and fast and
cloudy straight. This is a big, big, big disappointment. I could have gone
to Monza with 3 World Championship points in the lead, and now I'm still
seven points behind."
Jean Todt also joined in, and told Chiara: "Despite the waved blue flags,
the McLaren's driver would not let Michael pass. In Jerez we were
crucified for what happened between Michael Schumacher and Jacques
Villeneuve. That was okay, but what happened here is even more dangerous."
auto-moto.274obren,
Nekoliko timova počelo je testove na stazi u Monci, a među njima
je i Meklaren. Međutim zagriženi navijači Ferarija izneli su brojne
transparente na kojima piše "Kultard ubica", dok organizatori trke
najavljuju pojačane mere bezbednosti prema Kultardu, zbog moguće
osvete šumaherovih fanova...
--------------------
Tuesday September 1, 1998
Several teams have started preparations for the Italian Grand Prix at
Monza. Alexander Wurz was the fastest man on the track.
Eddie Irvine was second for Ferrari. He saw his test hampered by a problem
with the rear suspension.
McLaren was also testing there and got hissed by the crowd over last
Sunday's incident. There was even a banner stating "killer Coulthard" in
the afternoon. The police removed the persons responsible from the track.
auto-moto.275obren,
Sudar između Mihaela Šumahera i Dejvida Kultarda izazvao je pravu buru u
italijanskoj štampi. Jedan italijanski novinar tvrdi da je došao do trake
sa uhvaćenim tonskim snimkom komunikacije između Rona Denisa i Kultarda
neposredno pred sudar u 25. krugu trke.
Sledi transkript razgovora (tačnije "monologa") koji je u svakom slučaju
vrlo zanimljiv i ukoliko je istinit, ostavlja senku sumnje da je Kultard
ipak dobio neke šifrovane sugestije kada i na kom mestu na stazi treba
da "propusti šumahera"...
----------------------------
It will be one of the most discussed crashes in F1 history. FIA doesn't
seem interested to open an enquiry or judge David Coulthard: "It is a rule
of the game to try to force the opponent to do a mistake" said Max Mosley
about.
Yesterday in Italy, the early transcriptions of the McLaren tapes regarding
the 'famous' 25th lap of the Belgian GP of Sunday began to circulate.
Italian journalist Carlo Marincovich, one of the top-signs of F1 Italian
journalism, revealed to own them. The original source is actually unknown,
but with a little bit of imagination we can understand that they come from
an opponent Italian F1 team. Our redaction can warrant the reliabilty of
the source.
(The spy recordings were made with a device which only records when someone
speaks, other kinds of communication between the driver and the team such
as LEDs or writings in the LCD display are unknown).
The recording starts from the beginning of Michael Schumacher's 25th lap,
with David Coulthard in front of him. Schumacher has already clocked a
2m10s, the Scottish McLaren-Mercedes driver lapped around
Spa-Francorchamps in 2m16s. The McLaren's voice seems to be from Ron
Dennis, but this is not certain yet. the [] refer to something NOT said
but understood, the {} is a comment, the words written in capital are
shouts.
McLaren: "Be careful, CAREFUL....[he] is at {incomprehensible} the curve...
...careful" {20 seconds}
McLaren: "He's catching you UP..." {silence} {15 seconds}
McLaren: "FIVE..hunderedmetres {1 second} FIVE hundredmetres {1 second}
FIVE hundredmetres....[he's in the] {incomprehensible} curve..."
{silence, Coulthard keeps on slowing down}
{10 seconds}
{Coulthard brings himself on the extreme right side of the track
to let Schumacher pass him in an off-line tracjectory}
{Schumacher is close to Coulthard, he begins to wave his arm to
ask for the blue flags}
McLaren: "{The McLaren's voice is anxious but clear} He's BEHIND...
BEHIND...he's BEHIND"
{Jean Todt enters in the McLaren monitor stand looking at Ron Dennis,
no words spoken}
{Ron Dennis shows an open hand as to say "I've understood" to Todt}
McLaren: "LET-HIM-PASS! {once}"
{after 2 seconds the crash happened...}
These recordings witness that the Scottish driver is not-guilty (he didn't
speak), but there's the shadow of doubt about the beahiour of the
McLaren-Mercedes team-management. Why were they so anxious to inform David
Coultahrd about Michael Schumacher's position on the circuit? It is
understood that a driver which is about to be lapped must leave the
race-line to the leading driver. Why did Ron Dennis keep on mentioning the
"500 meters", and "he's behind"? and why suddenly suggest to "let him pass"?
auto-moto.276kiki,
> Italian journalist Carlo Marincovich, one of the top-signs of F1 Italian
Vidi se da je naša krv :))) Mora da laže ;)
auto-moto.277vector,
Tommi Makinen flickuje kroz krivinu...
tm004.jpgauto-moto.278giovanni,
Ę? Bez razloga si uvredljiv prema ljudima koji iz ovih ili onih razloga
Ę? nemaju isto mišljenje prema ovom incidentu a sada vidimo da čak i FIA
Ę? (čije
Ko se ostio uvređenim neka kaže. Zaista mi nije jasno zašto se ti
potresaš oko toga.
Ę? utripovao ;) A toliko je sve to bilo "očigledno" da Ferari ne želi da se
Ę? žali.
"Inevitabile". Cosi' la Ferrari definisce il tamponamento di Schumacher a
Coulthard in un comunicato nel quale si ricostruisce, in tre punti,
l'incidente. Una nota definita l' "ultimo commento" della casa di
Maranello su quanto accaduto domenica scorsa a Spa. Speriamo.
"La scuderia Ferrari - recita la nota - dopo alcune sconcertanti
interpretazioni del pericoloso incidente che ha provocato l'eliminazione
della Ferrari di Schumacher, ha ulteriormente esaminato i vari filmati e
materiale fotografico del gp del Belgio, che evidenziano in maniera
inequivocabile:
1) Coulthard per quasi un giro intero non ha rispettato le bandiere blu, e
non ha mai dato strada a Schumacher pur avendone avuto diverse occasioni
cosi' come prevede il regolamento.
2) Schumacher per diverse volte e' uscito dalla sua traiettoria per 'farsi
vedere' da Coulthard, pur rimanendo a debita distanza come sottolineato
dall'ex pilota Ivan Capelli durante il suo commento della telecronaca in
diretta della Rai.
3) il forte rallentamento in traiettoria del pilota Coulthard e' stato
prematuro ed improvviso, e considerando le ridotte condizioni di
visibilita' ha reso inevitabile il tamponamento, malgrado l'estremo
tentativo di evitarlo da parte di Schumacher".
"Su quanto accaduto - prosegue il comunicato - la Ferrari non ritiene di
fare ulteriori commenti e considera la vicenda chiusa, auspicando il
ritorno a un clima di sana e corretta rivalita' sportiva. Oggi sono state
effettuate le prove a Fiorano con Michael Schumacher e a Monza con Eddie
Irvine: in queste ultime ore abbiamo avuto un'altra prova di grandissimo
affetto e passione da parte dei tifosi, e questo rende ancora piu' unita e
compatta la squadra intorno ai suoi piloti. La Ferrari fara' di tutto per
ben figurare davanti al suo pubblico che, ne siamo certi, dara'
un'ulteriore dimostrazione di entusiasmo, sportivita' e correttezza".
Ovo je saopštenje iz Ferrarija. Ukratko, za one koji ne znaju
italijanski, kažu da je sudar bio neizbežan, da Kultard ceo krug nije
poštovao plavu zastavu te da iako je imao mogućnosti nije propustio
Šumahera kako to piše u pravilima. Šumahr je nekoliko puta izašao sa
idealne linije da bi ga Kultard video, ostajući na određenom rastojanju.
Snažno Kultardovo usporenje je bilo prerano i iznenadno, uzimajući u obzir
smanjenu vidljivost to je dovelo da je sudar bio neizbežan, uprkos
ekstremnom pokušaju Šumehara da ga izbegne. Dalje kažu da u cilju vraćanja
zdrave atmosfere sportskog nadmetanja itd. itd. što se tiče Ferrarija je
ovaj slučaj gotov i da se okreću Monci (Irvajn tamo vršio testove a
Šumaher na stazi u Fioranu.
auto-moto.279vector,
┼─┤ Kvalifikacije za VN San Marina, Imola
Jean Michel Bayle is back on track! JMB je danas uzeo pole ispred, ako
se dobro secam, Barrosa. Mick je treci, a Biaggi cetvrti. Nisam siguran
za ovu trojicu, ali vazno je da je Bayle prvi. Man, kakav stil voznje...
auto-moto.280giovanni,
Ę? je tvoj idol mogao da dovede u pitanje nečiji život. Psiholozi bi rekli
Ę? da su karakterne podudarnosti osnova vezivanja jedne osobe za drugu,
Ę? drugim riječima, da nije nimalo slučajno što baš ti navijaš za Michaela
Ę? Schumachera.
Nije slučajno. Kao što sam davno rekao, Ferrari je tim za koga navijam.
Navijao sam za njih još kad je Vilnev vozio za njih. Navijao sam i kad us
imali "samo" Alezija i Begrera za vozače i navijaću i da npr. Takagi
postane prvi vozač Ferrarija. Takođe, meni nije Šumaher idol. Niti mi može
biti (ni oni ni bilo ko drugi ali to je druga priča). Stvar je u tome da
ipak ne može biti govora o ugrožavanju života Žaka Vilneva u onom
incidentu. Ako je Šumaher hteo da izbaci Kanađanina iz trke i ovog sveta
mogao je efikasnije da to učini kad su se jurili po onom pravcu pre
ukosnice, kada je brzina bila 250 na sat. Ipak postoje razlike. Druga
stvar je nesportski gest koji je Šumaher učinio i bio kažnjen nakon toga.
Dosta iz tvoje poruke bi nekoga moglo uvrediti, naročito nekoga ko prati
F1 i nije "od juče". Ja se ne osećam pogođenim jer me ovakve rasprave, sa
ovakvim dijagnostičarima mogu samo razveseliti. To je zbog toga što je
smešno da neko daje sud o tome može li neko drugi da razlikuje neke
činjenice iz teme o kojoj se raspravlja, a na osnovu parcijalnog znanja o
toj osobi koje može steći komunicirajući ovakvim putem.
auto-moto.281stefan,
>Zaista mi nije jasno zašto se ti potresaš oko toga.
Uopšte se ne potresam, samo sam ti skrenuo pažnju na neke stvari.
Bolje je sprečiti nego lečiti :>
> Ovo je saopštenje iz Ferrarija.
Trt ;)
Pošto verujem da ovde ima malo ljudi koji znaju italijanski, evo kako to
saopštenje prevode u Sportskom Žurnalu (pošto se u nijansama razlikuje od
tvog prevoda ;):
>ZVANIČAN STAV FERARIJA:
>
>1. Kultard je skoro krug pre incidenta ignorisao plavu zastavu i nije
>dozvolio Šumaheru da ga obiđe, što je protiv pravila, jer je imao
>nekoliko mogućnosti da ih ipak ispoštuje.
>
> 2. Nekoliko puta je Šumaher pokušao da na stazi pokaže Kultardu da
>je brži i da bi trebalo da ga propusti, što je potvrđeno u
>televizijskom snimku koji je komentarisao nekadašnji vozač Formule 1
>Italijan Ivan Kapeli.
>
> 3. Reakcija Kultarda pre sudara bila je neočekivana i preuranjena, a
>zbog loših vremenskih uslova, Šumaher nije mogao adekvatno da
>reaguje.
>
>U italijanskom timu su istakli da neće biti nove izjave i da je za
>njih slučaj zatvoren, a do kraja prvenstva očekuju sportsku borbu. "
A evo i kratke izjave Irvajna o incidentu i Kultardu:
>"Nije se služio trikovima. Nije takav tip osobe. Kolegijalan je, a
>incident je posledica spleta nesrećnih okolnosti. Siguran sam da nije
>bilo namere da se Šumaher izbaci sa piste."
Pokušaj ubistva, a? :>
auto-moto.282miko,
> 1) Coulthard per quasi un giro intero non ha rispettato le bandiere blu,
> e non ha mai dato strada a Schumacher pur avendone avuto diverse
> occasioni cosi' come prevede il regolamento.
Sta, znaci Coulthard je trebalo da se skloni?
Takve stvari se mogu ocekivati od Takagija ili Rosseta, ali ne i od
Coultharda koji vozi za McLaren ... Da se jedan McLaren, koji je
nizom nesretnih okolnosti dospeo u tu situaciju, sklanja u stranu da
bi Schumacher prosao je totalno suludo. Coulthard je vozio po svojoj
idealnoj putanji, a na Schuamcheru je bilo da ga predje kako zna i
ume, a koliko ume je pokazao ...
> 2) Schumacher per diverse volte e' uscito dalla sua traiettoria per
> 'farsi vedere' da Coulthard, pur rimanendo a debita distanza come
> sottolineato dall'ex pilota Ivan Capelli durante il suo commento della
> telecronaca in diretta della Rai.
Zanimljivo kako se sada koriste observacije Ivan Capelli-ja koga je
taj isti Ferrari svojevremeno isutirao iz tima kao totalno
nesposobnog vozaca. Ipak, ja o njemu imam bolje misljenje ...
> 3) il forte rallentamento in traiettoria del pilota Coulthard e' stato
> prematuro ed improvviso, e considerando le ridotte condizioni di
> visibilita' ha reso inevitabile il tamponamento, malgrado l'estremo
> tentativo di evitarlo da parte di Schumacher".
Ovo vise deluje kao opravdanje Schumacher-u sto ga je udario, nego
napad na Coulthard-a ...
> "Su quanto accaduto - prosegue il comunicato - la Ferrari non ritiene di
> fare ulteriori commenti e considera la vicenda chiusa, auspicando il
> ritorno a un clima di sana e corretta rivalita' sportiva. Oggi sono
> state
... gde oni zele da prevlada razum i sport, pa ipak nece da salju
nikakvu tuzbu. Price za malu decu! Pogotovo kada se uzme u obzir da
su citav pocetak sezone proveli kopajuci po prirucniku FIA-e da bi
nasli neko "nedozvoljeno" sredstvo koje McLaren koristi i zbog koga
je tako dominantan ... tu se nisu ustezali da ih tuze. Dakle, ljudi
su svesni jedne cinjenice, a to je da je sve ono sto su napisali
po principu rekla/kazala toliko pateticno, da ne bi proslo ni u
vrticu ... Takodje, verovatno posle onog zavrsnog incidenta iz prosle
godine, jasno im je da je Ferrari izgubio sav ugled koji je stekao
tokom svog postojanja. To su cak primetili i ljudi koji navijaju za
taj tim. Kada se pogleda kroz istoriju ko je sve vozio za njih i
kakvi su to bili vozaci i borci, tragicno je da su evo zavrslili sa
osobom koju placaju ogromne pare, a koja nije naucila ni osnovne
elemente ponasanja i kulture. Ipak, muka ih je naterala da angazuju
takvog vozaca i meni je sve to jasno ... Ne verujem da ce se Ferrari
dalje kompromitovati i pokusati nesto slicno da vrati na sledecim
trkama. Svi su svesni da je u Belgiji konacno pravda zadovoljena, samo
je steta sto je to morao da plati i Ferrari. Ali, sami su birali svoje
vozace, i sada sami ima da placaju ... Niko drugi im nije kriv!
auto-moto.283obren,
Evo kako je Edi Džordan doživeo prvu pobedu svog tima u Formuli 1...
----------------
Po prvi put u svojoj F1 karijeri, Edi Džordan je seo u nedelju uveče
da odgleda udarne vesti tog dana. "Mislim da mi je bilo potrebno da se
uverim kako sve ovo nije san", rekao je.
"Dejmon i ja smo bili pozvani u večernju emisiju vesti kao gosti da bi
prokomentarisali trku i našu pobedu. Kasnije sam kod kuće pogledao snimak
emisije koja mi je prošla kao kroz maglu. Što se tiče snimka same trke,
nisam ga odgledao, a mislim da mi nije ni potrebno da ga odgledam ponovo,
jer su mi sećanja na ključne momente trke vrlo sveža: ponovni start i
Dejmonovo izbijanje na čelnu poziciju nakon prve krivine - to je nešto
nezaboravno. Ralfova fantastična strategija koja ga je dovela do treće
pozicije nakon završetka prve serije pitstopova svedoči o odličnom
funkcionisanju cele ekipe tog dana. Naravno tu su i poslednjih osam
krugova trke sa Žanom Alezijem za petama, kao i spektakularni incident
između Kultarda i Šumahera, kojeg ću se sećati isto kao i incidenata sa
Senom i Menselom. Takve stvari su žalosne, pa i sramne, ali su sastavni
deo takmičenja."
"Biti na podijumu po prvi put kao pobednički konstruktor je još jedna
nezaboravna uspomena, ali da budem iskren, to i nije bilo tako uzbudljivo
kao što sam zamišljao. Nakon toga sam se živ smrzao jer sam bio potpuno
natopljen šampanjcem! Emocije su me potpuno ophrvale i u tom momentu sam
jedino želeo da budem sa svojom porodicom. Mislio sam samo na Meri (moju
suprugu) i decu koja su uvek zajedno sa mnom prolazile kroz dobre i loše
trenutke. Put za Englesku je ispao prava avantura, jer smo propustili
let British Airwaysa, ali naš sponzor GdeZ (koji iznajmljuje džetove
ekipi Jordan Grand Prix) je poslao privatni avion po nas. Još jedna ludost
je bila kada smo uspeli da nagovorimo kontrolore na aerodromu Oxford da
nam dozvole da sletimo iako su svi dolasci tog dana bili zaključeni."
Edi Džordan je zatim napravio proslavu u krugu porodice i bliskih prijatelja:
"Uveče su svi moji dragi prijatelji bili kod mene. Oživljavali smo uspomene
na dan kada smo Meri i ja, pre 21 godinu, napustili Irsku da bi ispunili
želju i osnovali svoj trkački tim."
"U ponedeljak ujutru bilo je ludilo. Neprestano sam davao intervjue za
radio i TV, faks je neprestano zvonio, kao i moj mobilni telefon. Oko 2
sata popodne, rekao sam 'što je dosta dosta je' i pobegao sa suprugom na
ručak u naš omiljeni restoran pored reke u Henliju. U utorak smo se svi
ponovo okupili u fabrici, a kada sam ušao svi su poskakali i počeli da
skandiraju "jedan-dva, jedan-dva, jedan-dva! To je bilo sjajan osećaj!"
"Ova pobeda je bila veoma važna za sve nas u Džordanu. Zapušila je usta
svima koji su tvrdili da mi umemo jedino da se dobro zabavljamo. Pobedili
smo sa stilom i ušli u istoriju kao prva ekipa koja je svoj prvi trijumf
ostvarila dvostrukom pobedom. Svi inženjeri i mehaničari su ponosno i
dignute glave išli kroz padok, mašući kolegama iz Vilijamsa, Meklarena,
Ferarija itd. kao da kažu 'mi smo sada kao i vi'. Svesni su da su ove
godine samo tri tima dobijala trke, a da smo mi jedan od njih."
"Verujem da možemo još bolje. Kada ispuniš jednu ambiciju a to je prva
pobeda, moraš sebi zacrtati novu. Borićemo se za treće mesto u plasmanu
konstruktora, a nemamo šta da izgubimo. Ako svi budemo dali od sebe
koliko možemo, to je realna mogućnost."
auto-moto.284obren,
Maranello, 4. Septembar 1998.
Govorka se da traju tajni pregovori između kompanije 'Dunlop' i Ferarija
oko snabdevanja pneumaticima za sledeću sezonu. Poslednje informacije
govore da Goodyear ne odustaje od najavljenog povlačenja iz Formule 1
nakon ove sezone, i pored jakog pritiska od strane Vilijamsa i Ferarija
da preinači svoju odluku.
Kompanija Dunlop je navodno informisala Skuderiju Ferari da je postigla
dogovor sa Goodyearom oko preuzimanja svih podatka, inženjera i radnika
zaposlenih na F1 programu ove kompanije. Drugim rečima, Ferari (kao i
Vilijams) će praktično nastaviti sa korišćenjem iste familije prenumatika
samo pod drugim imenom, bez traumatičnih posledica koje uvek nosi prelazak
na novog snabdevača.
Enrico Chiara
auto-moto.285obren,
Đani Anjeli, vlasnik FIAT-a i Ferarija, izneo je u italijanskoh štampi
svoje viđenje događaja na trci u Spa, kao i komentar o vozačima koji su
učestvovali u incidentu prethodnog vikenda.
"Šumaher je najbolji vozač na svetu u ovom trenutku, ali na žalost ima vrlo
težak karakter. Međutim moram reći da, iako je prošle godine uradio nešto
užasno, ovog puta on je nevin."
Za Kultarda pak Anjeli kaže: "Kultard je vrlo lojalan čovek i korektan vozač."
Novinar ga je zatim pitao da li smatra da bi njih dvojica trebalo da se
sastanu i rukuju u znak pomirenja. "To zavisi od njih samih... ali izgleda
da u ovom trenutku nisu voljni za tako nešto. Ja ih ne mogu naterati da to
urade ako ne žele", rekao je Anjeli.
auto-moto.286vpoznanovic,
>> Što se Mihajla tiče, već sam rekao, da se ne ponavljam. Ono 94-e je bilo,
>> šta je bilo. Isto može da važi, što i za Sennu, bio je mlad, borio se za
>> ...
>> ...
>>
>> PS. Ko je dogurao dovde, hvala mu. Posle ovog teksta verovatno misli da
>> sam kreten, ali čim je došao dovde, shvatam da je bar nekad cenio moje
>> mišljenje. ;)
Šta da kažem, za ovo je trebalo i vremena, i koncentracije, a bogami i
hrabrosti da se napiše i pošalje. :)
Nadam se da to niko neće shvatiti kao povod za neku širu diskusiju, jer
je u pitanju jedno čisto subjektivno mišljenje. Ne postoji čovjek na ovoj
planeti koji bi se složio sa svakom tvojom rečenicom, ali bilo kakva
polemika ne bi imala smisla, jer bi vrlo brzo došlo do sukoba koji se
standardno završava prepucavanjem.
Najbitnije je da si korigovao svoje stavove i da si shvatio da braniti
Michaela Schumachera i opravdavati njegove postupke komparativnim
metodama nema smisla. Očekujem da ćeš to i ubuduće imati na umu.
auto-moto.287vpoznanovic,
>> Nije slučajno. Kao što sam davno rekao, Ferrari je tim za koga navijam.
>> Navijao sam za njih još kad je Vilnev vozio za njih. Navijao sam i kad us
>> imali "samo" Alezija i Begrera za vozače i navijaću i da npr. Takagi
>> postane prvi vozač Ferrarija.
Insistiranje na tome da ti zapravo navijaš za Ferrari ništa ne mijenja,
zato što ti opravdavaš Schumacherove postupke, odnosno, bolje rečeno, ne
osuđuješ ih.
Uopšte, teorija o prihvatanju vozača po svaku cijenu, taman on bio
najpoganije stvorenje koje je ikada ušlo u kokpit bolida Formule 1, nikad
mi nije išla u glavu. Pa zar ne vidiš da vas je filozofijom "cilj
opravdava sredstvo" za nepune tri godine toliko zaprljao da vas bog više
oprati neće. Što se sra*ja koja su se dešavala posljednjih par godina
nisu dešavala i kad su Berger i Alesi vozili za Ferrari, pitam je tebe?
Što nisu kad su Mansell i Prost bili vozači? Samo nemoj opet da mi se
pozivaš na zavist ostalih vozača, jer je 90% incidenata Schumacher
skrivio sam, a na sve one silne prekršaje i neregularnosti nisu ni mogli
imati uticaja.
>> Takođe, meni nije Šumaher idol. Niti mi može biti (ni oni ni bilo ko
>> drugi ali to je druga priča).
Mogu li da pogađam... :) stariji si od njega, kao uostalom i od većine
vozača koji trenutno voze u Formuli 1?
>> Stvar je u tome da ipak ne može biti govora o ugrožavanju života Žaka
>> Vilneva u onom incidentu. Ako je Šumaher hteo da izbaci Kanađanina iz
>> trke i ovog sveta mogao je efikasnije da to učini kad su se jurili po
>> onom pravcu pre ukosnice, kada je brzina bila 250 na sat. Ipak postoje
>> razlike. Druga stvar je nesportski gest koji je Šumaher učinio i bio
>> kažnjen nakon toga.
Baš bih volio da mi objasniš kako, kad je Villeneuve duž čitavog pravca
sve do ulaska u krivinu vozio iza Schumachera?? Podsjeti se malo
događaja, da ubuduće ne bi pričao napamet.
Villeneuvea je spasilo to što je u trenutku sudara još uvijek bio
usmjeren tangencijalno na krivinu, tako da ga je udarac zapravo skrenuo
i zadržao na stazi. A da nije mogao pošteno da nastrada, mogao je,
itekako. Duž čitave krivine, unutrašnjom stranom, postoji zaštitna
ograda, u koju bi se da je već bio u položaju za skretanje vrlo nezgodno
zakucao.
A sve i da je na pravcu bilo šanse da realizuje svoju podlu zamisao,
Schumacher to ne bi učinio. Nije ni švabo sisao vesla, njegova šansa da u
takvom zlodjelu zaradi kartu za onaj svijet ne bi bila ništa manja od
Villeneuveove.
U prilog svemu što sam do sada rekao ide i jedna sasvim očigledna
činjenica. Fino se moglo zapaziti da je švabo na trenutak cimnuo bolid,
kao da se koleba (ne, nije to bio manevar ulaska u krivinu, zato što ga
je već imao u vidnom polju), a onda je ponovo okrenuo volan na tu stranu
i onako bezobzirno ga udario.
>> Dosta iz tvoje poruke bi nekoga moglo uvrediti, naročito nekoga ko prati
>> F1 i nije "od juče". Ja se ne osećam pogođenim jer me ovakve rasprave, sa
>> ovakvim dijagnostičarima mogu samo razveseliti. To je zbog toga što je
>> smešno da neko daje sud o tome može li neko drugi da razlikuje neke
>> činjenice iz teme o kojoj se raspravlja, a na osnovu parcijalnog znanja o
>> toj osobi koje može steći komunicirajući ovakvim putem.
Vidiš, ja smatram da sam pišući po ovim konferencijama posljednjih šest
godina uspješno stvorio sliku o sebi, odnosno vrlo precizno pokazao onima
koji su čitali moje poruke koliko poznajem ili ne poznajem ono o čemu sam
diskutovao. To što ti nisi u stanju da na ovaj način predstaviš sebe i
svoje znanje, zbog čega nas ponekad dovodiš u situaciju da te možda
pogrešno procjenjujemo, to je tvoj problem, i nikako ne može da bude
argument u tvoju korist. Oni koji kroz ovakav vid komuniciranja, u
diskusijama ovog oblika, ne mogu potpuno da izraze svoje stavove, zbog
čega su nezadovoljni predstavom koju drugi dobijaju o njima, najbolje da
u njima i ne učestvuju.
auto-moto.288giovanni,
Ę? bi Schumacher prosao je totalno suludo. Coulthard je vozio po svojoj
Ę? idealnoj putanji, a na Schuamcheru je bilo da ga predje kako zna i
Ę? ume, a koliko ume je pokazao ...
Potpuno je nevažno da li je McLaren obilažen za krug ili Stewart. Ko šta
ume se odavno zna. Svote novca koje oni dobijaju odlično odslikava ko
vredi više a ko manje.
Ę? Zanimljivo kako se sada koriste observacije Ivan Capelli-ja koga je
Ę? taj isti Ferrari svojevremeno isutirao iz tima kao totalno
Ę? nesposobnog vozaca. Ipak, ja o njemu imam bolje misljenje ...
Samo je slučajnost da je Ivan Capelli bio stručni komentator na toj trci.
Mogao je da to bude i npr Clay Ragazzoni.
auto-moto.289giovanni,
Ę? Pošto verujem da ovde ima malo ljudi koji znaju italijanski, evo kako to
Ę? saopštenje prevode u Sportskom Žurnalu (pošto se u nijansama razlikuje
Ę? od tvog prevoda ;):
Pa kad sma ja preveo i prepričao stvarno ne znam zašto je još neko, pa
još moderator ;) morao da prenosi prevod. A još je to iz Žurnala. Jedino
ako mi ne veruješ da ću da pošteno prevedem. ;)))
auto-moto.290junior,
> Najbitnije je da si korigovao svoje stavove i da si shvatio da
> braniti Michaela Schumachera i opravdavati njegove postupke
> komparativnim metodama nema smisla. Očekujem da ćeš to i ubuduće
> imati na umu.
Heh, braniti ličnost Šumahera nikad nisam ni planirao :) Braniti
njegove vozačke sposobnosti, sam uvek rad. Ali ponavljam, dok on
ne sredi neke stvari u svojoj glavi, nikad neće ući među najveće.
> Šta da kažem, za ovo je trebalo i vremena, i koncentracije, a
> bogami i hrabrosti da se napiše i pošalje. :)
Pa ne reče, ima li istine u tome? :)
auto-moto.291vector,
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auto-moto.292junior,
> 1998 PPG Cup Champion
Čobanin. ;)
Da ga vidimo u formuli ..;)
auto-moto.293giovanni,
Ę? Insistiranje na tome da ti zapravo navijaš za Ferrari ništa ne mijenja,
Ę? zato što ti opravdavaš Schumacherove postupke, odnosno, bolje rečeno, ne
Ę? osuđuješ ih.
Čekaj. Ovde može doći do nesporazuma. Ja ne smatram njegov potez prošle
godine kao sportski i regularan te osuđujem pokušaj izbacivanja Vilneva
(ili šta je već pokušao). Ipak, cenim da teško da njemu može pasti na
pamet da ubistvenom akcijom izbaci iz trke nekog suparnika. Do sada ni
jednom to nije pokušao.
Ę? Što nisu kad su Mansell i Prost bili vozači? Samo nemoj opet da mi se
Ę? pozivaš na zavist ostalih vozača, jer je 90% incidenata Schumacher
Ę? skrivio sam, a na sve one silne prekršaje i neregularnosti nisu ni mogli
Ę? imati uticaja.
Pa šta je bilo one godine kad se Prost borio u Ferrariju? Isto je u
poslednjoj trci došlo do incidenta. Drugo, za kojih je to 90% incidenataa
kriv Šumaher? I šta po tebi spada u incident? Da li kad izleti sa staze
kao u Austriji (sam svojom greškom) ili računaš samo kad je u pitanju neki
dule sa drugim vozačem? Ako samo ovo drugo, onda je kriv u dva udesa s tim
što je jednom proglašen krivim a drugi udes (ili prvi hronološki gledano)
može da se kaže da je i bio u pitanju "racing incident".
Ę? Mogu li da pogađam... :) stariji si od njega, kao uostalom i od većine
Ę? vozača koji trenutno voze u Formuli 1?
Ne zbog toga.
auto-moto.294obren,
Ponedeljak, 7. Septembar 1998.
Stjuart GP je danas objavio da je Džoni Herbert potpisao dvogodišnji ugovor
sa ovim timom, počevši od naredne sezone. Stjuart će biti Herbertov peti
tim u njegovoj F1 karijeri. Ovaj 34-godišnji Britanac je trenutno najiskusniji
ozač u šampionatu, sa 127 startova.
Tim Stjuart međutim nije rekao ko će biti Herbertov timski kolega sledeće
godine, obzirom da je joj uvek nepoznato da li je Rubens Baričelo ostati
u timu.
auto-moto.295obren,
Sreda, 9. septembar 1998.
Ralf Šumaher je slobodan da napusti tim Džordan po završetku ove sezone.
Dogovor je postignut uz posredovanje "bossa" Formule 1, Bernija Iklstona.
Zvanično saopštenje tima glasi:
"Uz aranžman Bernija Iklstona postignut je dogovor između Ralfa Šumahera
i Edija Džordana, koji dozvoljava Ralfu Šumaheru da pređe u drugi 1999.
godine. Obe strane su se saglasile da ne iznose u javnost detalje vezane
za dogovor niti da daju ikakve dodatne izjave vezane za ovaj aranžman."
Ralf Šumaher je dakle i zvanično slobodan da se priključi Vilijamsu,
dok nekoliko pouzdanih izvora tvrdi da će Džordan u zamenu dobiti
Hajnca Heralda Frencena.
auto-moto.296obren,
Sreda, 9. Septembar 1998.
Tim Džordan GP je uveren da nakon senzacionalne duple pobede u Belgiji
može ostvariti dobar rezultat i u Monci ove nedelje, bez obzira na
probleme sa ponašanjem bolida prilikom testova prethodnih dana. Tim je
trenutno usresređen na suptilna aerodinamička poboljšanja bolida, za
koja se veruje da će doneti dragocene delove sekunde.
Majk Gaskojn, glavni dizajner tima objašnjava: "Još nismo imali prilike
da ispitamo izmene na aerodinamici bolida na stazi, obzirom da smo ih
koncipirali tek pre nekoliko dana. Razvojni tim radi već nekoliko
dana danonoćno kako bi imali bar dve šasije nove generacije da ponesemo
u Moncu. Izmene aerodinamike su prilično radikalne i moći će da se vide
i golim okom na zadnjem kraju bolida. Verujemo da će nova šasija zajedno
sa još nekim mehaničkim izmenama na bolidu popraviti aerodinamičke
performanse za tri procenta".
Džordan će za Moncu takođe dobiti i još noviju, pojačanu generaciju
motora, kako za kvalifikacije tako i za trku. Sva ova poboljšanja,
uz podatak da je na sličnoj, izrazito brzoj stazi u Hokenhajmu tim stvario
vrlo dobre rezultate, ulivaju ekipi nadu u vrhunski plasman.
"Pokušaćemo da se kvalifikujemo u prih četiri i završimo trku na
podijumu", kaže Gaskoin. "Nešto slabije od toga nam ne obezbeđuje
treće mesto u šampionatu, tako da moramo ići na ovu varijantu".
auto-moto.297obren,
Kuršlus u Spa?
Rat rečima vezan za događaje na trci u Spa i dalje traje. Nakon
pregleda snimaka pouzdano je utvrđeno da poziciono svetlo na bolidu Dejvida
Kularda nije radilo, što je po pravilniku FIA dovoljan razlog
za dobijanje crne zastave pri kišnim uslovima vožnje.
Meklaren tvrdi da nije znao niti video da Kultardu ne radi zadnje
svetlo, što međutim ne opravdava direktora trke i sudije u Belgiji
koji su ovakvu "sitnicu" morali da primete. Zbog toga se može desiti
da ih zadesi slična sudbina kao i sudije na trci u Silverstonu koje
nisu na vreme pokazale "stop-go" kaznu Šumaheru što mu je omogućilo
da bez kršenja propisa završi trku pri ulasku u boks na odrađivanje
kazne.
Pojavila se i jedna špekulacija vezana za ponašanje Meklarenovog
rukovodstva. Navodno, izlazak Dejvida Kultarda na stazu pri kraju
trke nije bio zbog pokušaja da se osvoji bar jedan poen, već da bi
se prebrisali telemetrijski podaci crne kutije bolida koja pamti
samo podatke za pet poslednjih krugova. Na taj način prebrisani su
parametri zabeleženi pri koliziji sa Šumaherom, koji bi mogli da
pokažu da li je Kultard namerno kočio na izlasku iz vrlo brze
krivine kako bi naveo Šumahera da napravi grešku.
auto-moto.302obren,
Sreda, 9. Septembar 1998.
Frencen i Ralf Šumaher zamenili mesta
Hajnc Herald Frencen je i zvanično potpisao dvogodišnji ugovor sa ekipom
Džordan. Hajnc Herald će zameniti Ralfa Šumahera koji će otići u Frencenov
bivši tim - Vilijams.
Prema izveštajima nemačkih medija, Frencen će za dvogodišnji ugovor sa
Džordanom dobiti oko 7 miliona maraka (3.7 M$) po sezoni. Frencen će biti
partner Dejmonu Hilu, koga je zamenio u Vilijamsu pre dve godine.
"Ovo je bez sumnje najjači vozački par u istoriji našeg tima", izjavio je
Edi Džordan. "Iako imamo još mnogo toga da uradimo ove sezone, sa velikim
nestrpljenjem očekujem 1999. godinu."
Frencen ovako komentariše transfer: "U osnovi, nas dvojica smo zamenili
mesta u timovima. Ralf je želeo da vozi za Vilijams, a ja sam želeo da
vozim za Džordan. Kao što vidite u pitanju je klasična zamena. Videćemo
ko će bolje proći u svom novom timu."
Nemački vozač je takođe dodao: "Sa moje tačke gledišta, Džordan je tim
budućnosti. Naročito cenim njihovu snagu i odlučnost, imaju dobre
inženjere i sjajnu podršku od Muhen-Honde. To je veoma dobra kombinacija
a videćemo šta će budućnost doneti. Ne bih voleo da dajem ishitrena
obećanja, ali mislim da ćemo biti jedan veoma dobar i snažan tim sledeće
godine."
auto-moto.303obren,
Četvrtak, 10. Septembar 1998.
Zanardi u Vilijamsu
Očekuje se da će za vreme vikenda u Monci tim Vilijams zvanično najaviti
ko će biti njegovi budući vozači u sezoni 1999, ali imena koja su najviše
u opticaju su Ralf Šumaher i Aleks Zanardi, dvostruki šampion američke
formule CART.
Zanardi je već obezbedio svoju drugu titulu na trci u Vankuveru, prošlog
vikenda. Italijanski vozač je iskoristio priliku da se zahvali ekipi
Ganasi za trogodišnji angažman. "Imao sam tim koji je uvek stajao iza
mene. Uvek sam imao osećaj da bi čak i kada bi mogli da biraju između
milion vozača, izbor bi opet pao na mene, što je sjajan osećaj."
Na pitanje kada će njegov transfer u Vilijams biti zvanično objavljen,
Zanardi je odgovorio: "Stvar je mog budućeg poslodavca kada će i kako
objaviti detalje o transferu." Sticajem okolnosti, Zanardi će biti u
Italiji ovog vikenda, pošto njegova supruga Danijela očekuje svoju prvu
bebu. "Život mi se osmehuje", zaključuje Zanardi, "mnogo stvari je došlo
na svoje mesto u mom životu, ne samo po pitanju karijere."
U međuvremenu, Zanardijev timski kolega, Džimi Vaser, obnovio je ugovor
sa Ganasi timom, razvejavajući tako glasine da će i on preći u Formulu 1,
odnosno u novoosnovani BAR tim.
auto-moto.304obren,
Četvrtak, 10. Septembar 1998.
Geri Anderson otišao iz Džordana
Geri Anderson, bivši tehnički direktor ekipe Džordan je da ostavku i
napustio ovaj tim, potvrdivši glasine koje su dugo najavljivale njegov
odlazak, naročito nakon angažovanja Majka Gaskoina na čelu dizajnerskog
tima, početkom Jula.
Anderson je povodom odlaska izjavio: "Kada smo osnovali Džordan GP, jedva
da smo imali poštenu olovku, a kamo li dizajnerski sto! Edi i ja nismo
bili sigurni da li ćemo ikad uspeti da napravimo sopstveni bolid. Ali s
pravom smo verovali u sebe, tako da je sada iza nas osam sezona učešća
u Formuli 1 sa pet različitih proizvođača motora. Pet puta smo zauzimali
peto mesto u konkurenciji konstruktora, a evo došli smo i do prve pobede
i to dvostruke, na trci u Spa. Nakon ove tačke, osetio sam da je vreme
za mene da napravim korak dalje. Ovo nije bila laka odluka, ali iz više
razloga odlučio sam da se suočim sa novim izazovom."
Novi izazov će najverovatnije biti tim Arrows.
auto-moto.305obren,
Četvrtak, 10. Septembar 1998.
Lula mira
Mihael Šumaher i Dejvid Kultard "zakopali su ratnu sekiru" danas u Monci.
Njih dvojica su imali vrlo dug privatni razgovor u četiri oka nakon koga
je Šumaher izjavio da je u pitanju bio trkački incident, i da Dejvid nije
namerno usporio na izlasku iz krivine. Šumaher međutim nije rekao da li se
izvinio za primedbu koju je izrekao u Meklarenovom boksu, kada je optužio
Kultarda da je pokušao da ga ubije.
auto-moto.306vpoznanovic,
Italian Grand Prix 1998
from Monza, Italy
11th September 1998 - 13th September 1998
Friday, September 11th
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, September 12th
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, September 13th
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (53 laps)
auto-moto.307vpoznanovic,
F1: Italian GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:24.987
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:25.246 0.259 0.259
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.690 0.444 0.703
4. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:26.053 0.363 1.066
5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:26.159 0.106 1.172
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:26.528 0.369 1.541
7. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:26.748 0.220 1.761
8. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:26.838 0.090 1.851
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:26.885 0.047 1.898
10. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:26.886 0.001 1.899
11. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.079 0.193 2.092
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:27.541 0.462 2.554
13. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:27.676 0.135 2.689
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:28.066 0.390 3.079
15. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.098 0.032 3.111
16. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.135 0.037 3.148
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:28.606 0.471 3.619
18. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.847 0.241 3.860
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:28.849 0.002 3.862
20. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:29.603 0.754 4.616
107% of fastest time: 1:30.936
21. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:53.671 24.068 28.684
auto-moto.308senna,
> Previse si objektivan.
Hvala.
auto-moto.309vpoznanovic,
F1: Italian GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:39.479
2. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:39.955 0.476 0.476
3. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:40.261 0.306 0.782
4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:40.295 0.034 0.816
5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:40.321 0.026 0.842
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:40.364 0.043 0.885
7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:40.508 0.144 1.029
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:40.588 0.080 1.109
9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:40.613 0.025 1.134
10. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:40.656 0.043 1.177
11. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:40.697 0.041 1.218
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:40.827 0.130 1.348
13. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:41.307 0.480 1.828
14. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:41.372 0.065 1.893
15. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:41.435 0.063 1.956
16. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:41.437 0.002 1.958
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:42.402 0.965 2.923
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:43.515 1.113 4.036
19. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:43.564 0.049 4.085
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:44.279 0.715 4.800
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:44.820 0.541 5.341
107% of fastest time: 1:46.443
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:48.985 4.165 9.506
auto-moto.310vpoznanovic,
F1: Italian GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:25.289
2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:25.561 0.272 0.272
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.679 0.118 0.390
4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.987 0.308 0.698
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:26.159 0.172 0.870
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:26.309 0.150 1.020
7. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:26.567 0.258 1.278
8. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:26.637 0.070 1.348
9. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:26.681 0.044 1.392
10. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:26.794 0.113 1.505
11. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:26.817 0.023 1.528
12. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:26.836 0.019 1.547
13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:27.247 0.411 1.958
14. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.362 0.115 2.073
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:27.510 0.148 2.221
16. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:27.744 0.234 2.455
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:28.212 0.468 2.923
18. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.286 0.074 2.997
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:28.346 0.060 3.057
20. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:28.387 0.041 3.098
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:29.101 0.714 3.812
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:29.417 0.316 4.128
107% of fastest time: 1:31.259
auto-moto.311vector,
┼─┤ 1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:25.289
┼─┤ 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:25.561
┼─┤ 3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.679
Paznja ovamo... JV lose startuje, MH ga obilazi i pre prve krivine
nalazi se direktno pored Schuleta ;). Medjutim, Schu misleci u stilu
"vozac koji je sa spoljasnje strane ima prednost;)" izbacuje obojicu iz
trke opakim zaokretom. Usled nastale guzve na stazi Irvine udara u
mladog Dejva i njih dvojica bolide ostavljaju u "kisu" (sto bi Heiko
rekao, jel). U toku krvave borbe Ralfa "dojclandera" i Vilneva za prvo
mesto iz drugog plana izbija Alezi i uzima pobedu... masa urla, mi ovamo
urlamo ;), jr. se buni zbog toga sto je Schu ispao, ja u euforiji palim
f1gp, uspevam da oborim Valasa i ulazim u 1:10... opako,a?
auto-moto.312junior,
> urlamo ;), jr. se buni zbog toga sto je Schu ispao, ja u
> euforiji palim f1gp, uspevam da oborim Valasa i ulazim u
> 1:10... opako,a?
Ali nije nemoguće. ;)
Anyway, ako Alezi pobedi, poješću svoj šešir :)
auto-moto.313legolas,
>>Anyway, ako Alezi pobedi, pojescu svoj sesir :)
Kakva sesir ti imas ? :)
auto-moto.314vpoznanovic,
F1: Italian GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.632
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:25.965 0.333 0.333
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:26.924 0.959 1.292
4. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:27.021 0.097 1.389
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:27.041 0.020 1.409
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.052 0.011 1.420
7. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:27.054 0.002 1.422
8. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:27.238 0.184 1.606
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:27.481 0.243 1.849
10. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:27.485 0.004 1.853
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:27.571 0.086 1.939
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:27.667 0.096 2.035
13. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:27.712 0.045 2.080
14. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:27.845 0.133 2.213
15. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:27.974 0.129 2.342
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:27.975 0.001 2.343
17. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:28.219 0.244 2.587
18. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:28.523 0.304 2.891
19. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:28.582 0.059 2.950
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:29.273 0.691 3.641
21. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:29.339 0.066 3.707
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:29.917 0.578 4.285
auto-moto.315vector,
E, ovo stvarno niko nije ocekivao... ;)
auto-moto.316junior,
> E, ovo stvarno niko nije ocekivao... ;)
Od ovog mož' da se rikne ..;)
Nema ovo više smisla .. taj Šumaher da Miki fore na startu, kaže
"evo, pustim te, i opet ti džaba" ;), a čobanin ne ume da vozi.
Tj, ume on da vozi, al' ne ume da forsira (kako je samo stisao
papučicu gasa, i skidao 0,2 sec po krugu ;).
BTW, jel' ima neko adresu, ne email, nego pravu adresu Hakinena,
da mu pošaljem autić na daljinsko upravljanje, da se drži nečega
što ume da radi ;))
PS. Na njivu, čobaneeee ;)
auto-moto.317obren,
ITALIAN GRAND PRIX
Monza, Milan, September 13th, 1998
53 laps, 305.810 kms.
POS DRIVER NATION TEAM TIME
1 Michael Schumacher GER Ferrari F300 1h 17:09.672
2 Eddie Irvine GBR Ferrari F300 + 37.977
3 Ralf Schumacher GER Jordan-Mugen-Honda 198 + 41.152
4 Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes MP4/13 + 55.671
5 Jean Alesi FRA Sauber-Petronas C17 + 1:01.872
6 Damon Hill GBR Jordan-Mugen-Honda 198 + 1:06.688
7 Heinz-Harald Frentzen GER Williams-Mecachrome FW20 1 lap
8 Giancarlo Fisichella ITA Benetton-Mecachrome B198 1 lap
9 Toranosuke Takagi JPN Tyrrell-Ford 026 1 lap
10 Rubens Barrichello BRA Stewart-Ford SF2 1 lap
11 Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford M198 2 laps
12 Ricardo Rosset BRA Tyrrell-Ford 026 2 laps
13 Jarno Trulli ITA Prost-Peugeot AP01 3 laps
Not Classified
14 Jos Verstappen NED Stewart-Ford SF2 14 laps gearbox
15 Jacques Villeneuve CAN Williams-Mecachrome FW20 16 laps spin
16 Mika Salo FIN Arrows A19 21 laps mechanical
17 Alexander Wurz AUT Benetton-Mecachrome B198 29 laps mechanical
18 David Coulthard GBR McLaren-Mercedes MP4/13 37 laps engine
19 Olivier Panis FRA Prost-Peugeot AP01 38 laps mechanical
21 Sinji Nakano JPN Minardi-Ford M198 40 laps engine
20 Johnny Herbert GBR Sauber-Petronas C17 41 laps spin
22 Pedro Diniz BRA Arrows A19 43 laps spin
All timing is unofficial
Fastest Lap: Mika Hakkinen 1:25.138
* * * * *
Ferrari got the present they wanted for their 600th Grand Prix party,
although today was the 601st Grand Prix, with a one-two. Michael
Schumacher controlled the race after both Mclaren's had problems.
Schumacher started from pole but had a very bad start en entered the first
corner fifth. Mika Hakkinen and David Coulthard got away clean, one and
two, and looked very strong for the rest of the race.
Hakkinen, who was leading the race, had to let his team-mate go by because
he had some handling problems, especially under braking. After that
Coulthard took off but saw his engine and chances go up in smoke on lap
16. Schumacher, who already was in third place, immediately tries to
overtake Hakkinen for the lead and succeeds.
Hakkinen was able to hang on to Schumacher but near the end of the race he
suffered from severe brake problems, which even resulted in a recoverable
spin. His tyres were so badly damaged that he had to let Eddie Irvine and
Ralph Schumacher overtake him.
Both rivals are now on 80 points in the championship and McLaren has to
work hard on it's reliability.
A team, which is looking very strong, is Jordan. After last race's one-two
they had another good showing today. Ralf Schumacher clinched third, he
started sixth on the grid, while Damon Hill ended sixth from fourteenth.
A lengthy race report will follow on Atlas F1 this Wednesday.
auto-moto.318obren,
Grand Prix of Italy, Monza
Sunday 13 September 1998
Post race winners' press conference:
1. Michael Schumacher (Ferrari), 1hr 17:09.672s (190.963 km/h);
2. Eddie Irvine (Ferrari), 38 seconds behind;
3. Ralf Schumacher (Jordan-Mugen/Honda), 41 seconds behind
Q. Congratulations, Michael, on a great victory for Ferrari which puts
you equal on points in the world championship with Mika Hakkinen. I think
you will agree, though, that it didn't look too promising for you at the
start...
Michael Schumacher: You're right. My start was so terrible that it looked
as though I was going for a walk, not a race. Instead of getting a good
take off [from the line], the wheels just slipped. At that point everything
that could have gone wrong was going wrong and I lost a lot of positions.
Fortunately I was able to get back ahead of Jacques immediately, then Eddie
didn't make it difficult for me to go past him, which allowed me to start
catching the McLarens.
Q. Almost as soon as you had got on to Mika's tail, David Coulthard pulled
off in a cloud of somebody else's smoke. At that moment you went past Mika.
Can you remember the sequence of events?
Michael Schumacher: Quite a lot of things had happened by then. Hakkinen
had let Coulthard past him, and Coulthard was disappearing into the
distance, which left Mika and myself to challenge each other for quite a
number of laps. Then there was a tremendous blow-up [from Nakano] which
made it impossible to see into the corner or spot the cars in front. We
both had to slow down big-time, and Mika actually ran on to the grass
although I was still behind him. Mika then lost it into the chicane -- he
ran wide and was struggling -- so I was able to out-accelerate him on the
way out of the chicane down to the first of the Lesmos. He obviously
defended by moving over and trying to close the door. But I still went
through -- and that is what won the race for me.
Q. At the end of the race, after his tyre change, Mika started to catch up
with you again. Were you perhaps worried that your tactics were wrong?
Michael Schumacher: No, not at all. I didn't have to make another pit stop
and everything was running easily. I wasn't worried because it is one
thing to catch up by a small difference in lap times -- and with Mika it
was only two or three tenths per lap -- but to overtake someone you have
to be much faster than that. Also, our straight line speed wasn't much
different [from the McLarens'] today, so there was nothing to concern me.
It was nicer, though, to see him go off and leave me with a big lead.
Q. Eddie, a great result for you, too. How do you feel to be part of a
Ferrari 1-2 at Monza?
Eddie Irvine: It's been a while since I have been on the podium. I have to
say that for a while out there it was getting boring, but it's amazing how
quickly it stops being boring when you have a chance to be up here.
Q. You had a long battle with Jacques Villeneuve, until he went off the
road. How closely matched were the Ferrari and the Williams?
Eddie Irvine: I had been ahead of him for most of the race, but then I
made a mistake at one of the Lesmos and ran a bit wide, which allowed him
to close up on me [and pass]. Then we got caught in traffic and I went in
to the pits for my stop. I came out ahead of him and he was pushing hard
to catch me. But I don't think he had quite enough speed and eventually he
made his mistake, which left me with a big gap to Ralf. I just backed off
then, but of course Mika started to have his problems so I started pushing
again. After I had done a few quick laps and got ahead of Mika I backed
off again because I really hadn't been happy with the car since the start
of the race. It had been set up very stiff which made it very difficult to
drive.
Q. You had a couple of incidents. You went straight on at the first chicane
andou went off at the Lesmo. Was that
all because of the stiffer car?
Eddie Irvine: I have done more testing at this circuit than anywhere by a
mile. I've been going back and forwards, stiffer, softer, stiffer, softer,
and I just don't seem to be able to get the car right. I went stiff for
the race which was probably the wrong thing, and I was soft for qualifying
which is probably the wrong thing as well! I just completely screwed the
whole weekend up, which is good that you get 6 points when you have
totally screwed up!
Q. Ralf, congratulations on your 3rd place. You started sixth on the grid,
while your team mate Damon Hill was 14th. But Damon very rapidly caught
and passed you, which suggests that he had a different strategy from
yours. What were the tactics inside Jordan?
Ralf Schumacher: Well, it turned out in the end that Damon got a point, so
the strategy was obviously right, for us and for him. But the quicker
strategy was to have gone for one stop, which I did. Damon really had no
other choice [than to stop twice], if he wanted to make up places. I am
happy for the team that we were both in the points.
Q. With Williams on 33 points in the constructors' championship, Benetton
on 32 and Jordan now on 31, what can we expect from the last two races?
Ralf Schumacher: The possibility is there now, and I certainly hope that
we can take 3rd place. Both Damon and I are fighting for it. I just hope
that before I leave the team I can help Jordan to get third place in the
constructors' title.
Q. Michael, how are you and the 150,000 fans going to celebrate tonight?
Michael Schumacher: We will stay a couple of hours longer, maybe
overnight, Eddie and myself, and have a good celebration tonight.
Eddie Irvine: I don't think [Michael's wife] Corinna will let him
[celebrate]. But I'm going to the party anyway.
auto-moto.319obren,
Monza, Sunday 13 September 1998
RACE FACTS
At the start of the race Michael Schumacher makes a slow start and is
passed by both McLarens, Jacques Villeneuve and Eddie Irvine. It is Mika
Hakkinen who gets to the first corner ahead having barged Villeneuve out
of his way. This delays Jacques and enables David Coulthard to take second
place with Irvine third and Villeneuve fourth. Later on the first lap
Schumacher is able to pass Jacques to take fourth. Further back Jean Alesi
makes a good start to run sixth ahead of Ralf Schumacher, the two
Benettons and Jarno Trulli. Olivier Panis has a disastrous first lap and
drops from ninth to 15th while Damon Hill goes from 14th on the grid to
11th at the end of the lap.
In the course of the second lap Irvine allows Schumacher to pass him and
Michael then sets off after the two McLarens, leaving Eddie to fight off
Villeneuve. Ralf Schumacher passes Alesi and takes sixth while Hill puts
on a great charge and passes Giancarlo Fisichella, Trulli, Wurz and then
Alesi.
At the front the McLarens are able to build a lead of four seconds and on
lap eight Coulthard goes ahead of Hakkinen in what appears to be a planned
strategy. David then pulls quickly away while Hakkinen drops back towards
Schumacher's Ferrari. Further back Hill passes Ralf Schumacher to run
sixth. He takes Villeneuve for fifth on lap 14 but then pits at the end of
the lap. He drops to 12th.
While Coulthard builds up a lead of nearly 10 seconds Hakkinen is able to
keep ahead of Schumacher but McLaren's strategy goes wrong on lap 17 when
Coulthard's engine blows up. Hakkinen and Schumacher arrive at the second
chicane in a cloud of oil smoke and both have to lift off. In the scramble
to get back on the power Hakkinen slides out wide at the exit of the
chicane and Schumacher is able to get alongside and take the lead going
into the first Lesmo corner.
Once in the lead Schumacher builds a small lead over Hakkinen but then
Mika fights back and the gap fluctuates until just before the pit stops
when the McLaren driver begins to fade badly. Further back Irvine loses a
lot of time when he goes wide at the Lesmo and Villeneuve closes in on
him.
Schumacher is able to get a lead of around seven seconds before he pits on
lap 31 but Hakkinen stays out in the lead until lap 34 and then pits. He
rejoins behind Michael. All the major players are on one-stop strategies
and when the pit stops are over the order is unchanged at the front,
although Damon Hill is able to make up two places when Fisichella and
Frentzen both have bad pits stops. Heinz-Harald loses slightly less time
and moves up to seventh place.
Fourth-placed Villeneuve is chasing after Irvine but on lap 38 he makes a
mistake and goes off in the first Lesmo corner. Jacques's retirement puts
Ralf Schumacher into fourth with Alesi fifth and Hill sixth.
Hakkinen now begins to chase Schumacher and closes the gap by around
three-tenths each lap, setting two fastest laps as he does so. On lap 47
Mika makes a mistake at the second chicane and spins. He is able to keep
the car away from the walls and rejoins but he then begins to suffer
serious brake problems and his lap times drop dramatically. This enables
Irvine to close up and take second place on lap 49. Ralf Schumacher also
passes Hakkinen on lap 51. Hakkinen finishes fourth and is now equal with
Schumacher in the World Championship with two races to go.
Ferrari scores its first 1-2 at Monza since 1988.
auto-moto.320vector,
Bryan Herta je pobedio danas ispred Zanardija... sledeca trka je GP
Hjustona, 4. oktobra.
auto-moto.321vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Italian GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 80
Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 80
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 48
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 38
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 20
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 17
Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 15
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 14
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 13
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 9
12. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
13. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 3
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 128
2. Ferrari I 118
3. Williams-Mecachrome GB 33
4. Benetton-Playlife I 32
5. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 31
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 10
7. Arrows-TWR GB 6
8. Stewart-Ford GB 5
9. Prost-Peugeot F 1
auto-moto.322junior,
> Bryan Herta je pobedio danas ispred Zanardija... sledeca trka
> je GP Hjustona, 4. oktobra.
Kako ga je svetski iskulirao zadnja 2 kruga. ;) Taj Zanardi je
suviše naložen za svoje znanje.
BTW, nisam video, jel' to Barron izleteo dok je pace car bio
na stazi? ;))
auto-moto.323junior,
> 1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 80
> Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 80
Kako stoje stvari sa pobedama? Mika 6, Mihajl 5? Šta bi se desilo,
ako Šumaher uzme jednu pobedu, a Mika 2. i 3. do kraja sezone? Isti
broj bodova, isti broj pobeda .. šta se gleda?
auto-moto.324senna,
Kako stoje stvari sa pobedama? Mika 6, Mihajl 5? Sta bi se desilo,
ako Sumaher uzme jednu pobedu, a Mika 2. i 3. do kraja sezone? Isti
broj bodova, isti broj pobeda .. sta se gleda?
Ko ima vishe drugih, pa trecih..
auto-moto.325vector,
┼─┤ Kako ga je svetski iskulirao zadnja 2 kruga. ;) Taj Zanardi je
┼─┤ suvise nalozen za svoje znanje.
Gde bre iskulirao? AZ ga je pustio da uzme tu prvu bednu pobedu posto
doticni nije u stanju da to sam uradi. Mislim, jeste on opaki talenat i
sve sto uz to ide, ali nije klasa AZ-a. ;)
┼─┤ BTW, nisam video, jel' to Barron izleteo dok je pace car bio
┼─┤ na stazi? ;))
Nemam pojma... ne secam se, ali znam da se neko skucao pre corkscrew
krivine dok se PC jos uvek vukao po stazi.
auto-moto.326junior,
> Ko ima vishe drugih, pa trecih..
A ko ima više drugih? Šumaher?
BTW, mislim da je ove sezone, najviše drugih imao Kultard ;)
auto-moto.327obren,
Hamburg, 13. Septembar 1998
Samo zahvaljujući velikodušnosti svoga brata, Ralf Šumaher će biti u
mogućnosti da vozi za Vilijams sledeće godine. Naime, Mihael Šumaher,
najskuplji vozač Formule 1 svih vremena, sa godišnjim prihodima od oko
75 miliona DM, isplatio je iz svog džepa obeštećenje od 7 miliona DM
timu Džordan kako bi njegov mlađi brat mogao da napusti tim pre isteka
ugovora. Ipak, presudnu ulogu u postizanju ovog dogovora imao je Berni
Iklston, svemogući gazda Formule 1 koji je odigrao ulogu posrednika
između Mihaela Šumahera i Edija Džordana.
Mihael Šumaher je želeo da omogući mlađem bratu da na vreme pređe u
super-tim ogromnog budžeta, kakav je Vilijams, kako ga ne bi zadesila
sudbina mnogih mladih talenata koji nisu na vreme dobili pravu šansu.
auto-moto.328junior,
> Mihael Šumaher je želeo da omogući mlađem bratu da na vreme
> pređe u super-tim ogromnog budžeta, kakav je Vilijams, kako ga
> ne bi zadesila sudbina mnogih mladih talenata koji nisu na
> vreme dobili pravu šansu.
I sad neka mi neko kaže da nije čovek ;)
A i imati svog brata u jednom od najkonkurentnijih timova, nije
uopšte loša stvar. :)
auto-moto.329rades,
> A ko ima vise drugih? Sumaher?
Pobeda imaju po 6. A drugih mesta ima vise Hakinen.
auto-moto.330obren,
Utorak, 15. Septembar 1998
Šef Benetona, Dejvid Ričards, rekao je da će trebati najmanje 4 godine
da bi Beneton ponovo postao konkurentan. "Problem nije u šasiji već u
motoru", izjavio je on Dejli Telegrafu.
"Ključna stvar u ovom trenutku je da uspostavimo kvalitetnu i dugoročnu
saradnju sa nekim od velikih proizvođača automobila, koji bi nas snabdeo
konkurentnim motorom. Od trenutka kada se to desi, trebaće nam najmanje
dve godine da dostignemo željeni nivo konkurentnosti bolida. Dovoljno je
da pogledate koliko je trebalo Meklarenu da u saradnji sa Mercedesom
dostigne sadašnju snagu, pa da shvatite da je za ovakve ciljeve potrebno
vreme."
Tim nije zadovoljan progresom koji prave Mekahrom motori, ali ugovor ih
vezuje za ovu firmu sve do 2000. godine. Špekuliše se da bi nakon isteka
ovog ugovora Ford mogao da uđe u igru kao snabdevač motorima za Beneton.
auto-moto.331obren,
Prenosim nkoliko izjava Dejmona Hila nakon trke u Monci. Napominjem da
je Hill prema mojoj evidenciji imao čak 11 preticanja u trci! Ne znam
da li se videlo na BK, ali Edi Džordan je prilikom prvog Hilovog ulaska
u boks ustao na pit-volu i aplaudirao svom prvom vozaču dok su mu dolivali
gorivo i menjali gume...
A sada izjave:
"Moj rezultat na kvalifikacijama je bio zaista razočaravajući obzirom na
kvalitet nove šasije i naročito novog Mugen-Honda motora. Može se videti
iz prolaznih vremena i maksimalnih brzina po sekcijama da bih gotovo
sigurno bio među prvih šest na startu. Strategija nam je bila perfektna
ali nikako nisam uspevao da odvezem do kraja brzi krug zbog ogromnog
broja vozača na stazi."
"Što se tiče same trke, jasno je da završavanje oba vozača u zoni poena
i to uz podijum, predstavlja fantastičan rezultat za tim. U početku sezone
izgledalo mi je gotovo nedostižno da završim trku među prvih šest, a evo
danas sam uspeo da uzmem poen iako sam startovao sa 14. mesta."
"Mislim da je Džordan sve jači i jači. U poslednje četiri trke osvojili
smo isti broj poena kao i Ferari - 28. Kada bi postojala nagrada za tim
koji je najviše napredovao od početka sezone, Benson & Hedges Jordan bi
je sigurno dobio!"
"Čini mi se da sam na ovoj trci pretekao više ljudi nego ukupno u prethodne
dve sezone. U prvom delu trke je bilo zaista ludo, sa neverovatnom lakoćom
sam obilazio ostale vozače ispred sebe, tako da sam se bukvalno iznenadio
kad je došlo vreme za prvi pit stop, koliko sam uživao u vožnji."
auto-moto.332vector,
┼─┤ GP de Catalunya, kvalifikacije
1. Alex Criville 1:45.5
2. Max Biaggi 1:45.7
3. Alex Barros 1:45.9
4. Mick Doohan 1:46.0
Bice opako sutra na trci. Criville je uvek dobar u Spaniji, a ovo je
staza na kojoj je Biaggi testirao tako da treba ocekivati od i njega da
bude konkurentan, a ako nadju bolji setup sutra na treningu... ko zna.
Naravno, ne treba zaboraviti ni penzionera sa cetvrte pozicije -- jer,
factory bike je ipak factory bike, a uveren sam bi MD bez Repsol Honde
bio konkurentan kao sada, recimo, Garry McCoy. ;)
auto-moto.333vector,
┼─┤ GP de Catalunya, trka
E, ovo je stvarno smesno. Ko je gledao trku na eurosportu mogao je da
primeti kakve se sve gluposti koriste ne bi li prokleti penzioner uzeo i
petu titulu...
1. Michael Doohan
2. Tadayuki Okada
3. Norifumi Abe
auto-moto.334junior,
> E, ovo je stvarno smesno. Ko je gledao trku na eurosportu mogao
> je da primeti kakve se sve gluposti koriste ne bi li prokleti
> penzioner uzeo i petu titulu...
Gledao sam snimak.
Nije mi jasno koji je onom Biaggiju da ignoriše znak za pit-stop
kaznu? Ono, uopšte nisam provalio zašto je dobio kaznu, ali da
onako ladno 10 krugova, ignoriše zastavice, naravno da mu sledi
suspenzija.
Najjača je faca (bar zamišljam), kad je po završetku trke, Biaggi
digao ruku u vazduh, kao proslavljao, a Doohan koji prolazi pored
njega, onako zbunjeno se okreće ..;))
Surovo. :)
auto-moto.335vector,
┼─┤ Nije mi jasno koji je onom Biaggiju da ignorise znak za pit-stop
┼─┤ kaznu? Ono, uopste nisam provalio zasto je dobio kaznu, ali da
┼─┤ onako ladno 10 krugova, ignorise zastavice, naravno da mu sledi
┼─┤ suspenzija.
E, vidi se da si gledao Milinkovica (koji, btw, *veze sa vezom* nema).
Pazi ovako... Max je dobio stop'n'go posle 34 minuta; hej, to su punih
pola sata i kusur -- on dobija stop'n'go na kraju trke zbog neceg sto se
desilo u prvom krugu?!! Give me a break! (sto rece Dennis Noyes) Da je
zaista bilo opasno (zbog Bejla koji je ostao pored staze) morala je da
izadje crvena zastava, a ne lokalna zuta. Dalje, i Alex Barros dobija
istu, a u tom krugu je samo jedan od njih dvojice obisao drugog...dalje,
komentator rece da je bilo obilazenja negde pozadi, a samo njih dvojica
dobijaju stop'n'go i to u trenutku kada se vidi da Doohan ne moze da ih
obidje. Mislim, ono, repsol, Spanija... Mick vozi Repsol Hondu. Sve se
cini ne bi li prokleti penzioner dobio i petu titulu -- pokusavaju da
naprave od njega legendu. Zasto samo on dobija screamer motor? Koliko ja
znam, Carlos Checa je pokusao da dobije screamer... nisu mu dali. Max je
trazio isti motor... nije ga dobio. Posle gluposti sa Assena 1997 i
gluposti izmedju Maxa i Doohana, gde je ovaj drugi pricao raznorazne
gluposti po stampi, Max nije ni nameravao da udje u boks. Hteo je da
pobedi na stazi... a to je i uradio. I slepac zna da je ovo bila Maxova
trka... video si navijace kako zvizde zbog stop'n'go kazne. Ima tu jos
dosta da se naprica, al me mrzi da pisem. ;)
┼─┤ Najjaca je faca (bar zamisljam), kad je po zavrsetku trke, Biaggi
┼─┤ digao ruku u vazduh, kao proslavljao, a Doohan koji prolazi pored
┼─┤ njega, onako zbunjeno se okrece ..;))
Ma gde zbunjeno...
auto-moto.336pecanac,
4 slike sa zadnje trke F1 u Italiji. (Benetton)
monza98.zipauto-moto.337pavijan,
> naprave od njega legendu. Zasto samo on dobija screamer motor? Koliko ja
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Nema sanse da nekoga guraju toliko dugo da obori rekord koji je postavio
legendarni Agostini. Ej bre 15 puta svetski prvak, i to 7 puta u klasi 350ccm
i 8 puta u 500ccm od toga samo zadnje (mislim dve) sa Yamahom ono ostalo sve
MV AGUSTA. Cini mi se cak i da je nekoliko puta imao u istoj sezoni u obe
klase osvojene titule sto je svojevremeno pokusao i jednom uspeo Fredi
Spenser (mislim negde 83 ili 84).
Inace sto se stila voznje tice Mike Doohan je po stilu vise nalik Alanu
Prostu u formuli - znaci ziheras.
Drugo, sta je bre uopste screamer motor ???
> trazio isti motor... nije ga dobio. Posle gluposti sa Assena 1997 i
> gluposti izmedju Maxa i Doohana, gde je ovaj drugi pricao raznorazne
> gluposti po stampi, Max nije ni nameravao da udje u boks. Hteo je da....
>.... dosta da se naprica, al me mrzi da pisem. ;)
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Nisam u poziciji da pratim trke preko satelita a i literatura vise nemoze da
se nadje inostrana (bar ne ovamo na jugu gde je bog rekao laku noc :))) kako
treba tako da mi dosta stvari promice. Pa te shodno tome molim ako ti nije
tesko baci neku rec vise o dogadjajima kao i neku sliku.
Pozdrav od pavijana
auto-moto.338vector,
┼─┤ Inace sto se stila voznje tice Mike Doohan je po stilu vise nalik Alanu
┼─┤ Prostu u formuli - znaci ziheras.
Imao je on svoje trenutke, ali ko zeli da vidi kako izgleda pravi stil
voznje neka odgleda jednom Bejla (Rainey Yamaha).
┼─┤ noc :))) kako treba tako da mi dosta stvari promice. Pa te shodno tome
┼─┤ molim ako ti nije tesko baci neku rec vise o dogadjajima kao i neku
┼─┤ sliku.
Radi se o tome da je doticni Michael Doohan pri ulasku u ovu sezonu
ocekivao jos jednu titulu i to verovatno sa lakocom prethodne (prosle
godine je uzeo titulu na VN Britanije). E, sad... kada su se procule
glasine o Biaggijevom prelasku u 500 cc, Mick je stalno govorio nesto
tipa: "Max nije toliko dobar -- muci se da osvoji titulu pored Harade
i Waldmanna; pravi sampion bi vec odavno osvojio sampionat."
Naravno, Biaggi je osvojio sampionat tek na poslednjoj trci kada je
Waldmann pobedio, a Harada (koga je Rainey sutnuo iz tima pre par godina
-- tek toliko da se zna kolko je 'dobar' jer ce ove godine uzeti titulu)
zavrsio peti.
Na kraju sezone Max prelazi u 500 cc i niko ne ocekuje dobre rezultate
od njega -- Dennis Noyes govori nesto u stilu "prave rezultate mozemo
ocekivati tek posle par godina jer je period privikavanja na taj motor
uzasno dug". Randy Mamola govori isto.
E, a onda se desava ono sto niko normalan :) ne bi ocekivao -- Biaggi
uzima pole na prvoj trci sezone i postavlja vreme koje je za skoro celu
sekundu bolje od Doohanovog. Ko je gledao kvalifikacije tada mogao je da
primeti Repsol mehanicare u Maxovom boksu -- pomagali su Maxu da se
snadje, i niko mu nije bio ravan. Na trci je pobedio Biaggi, a Doohan
nije zavrsio trku (da je zavrsio, zaostao bi nekih 20s iza Biaggija). E,
tada je Doohan ukapirao da titulu nece uzeti lako i bez muke.
Na sledecoj trci Doohan je pobedio jer je Biaggi imao probleme sa
gumama. Ko je slusao intervju posle trke mogao je da vidi *koliko* je
Doohan bio srecan, jer je video da ipak *ima* sanse da dobije Biaggija.
Na toj trci nismo videli Repsol mehanicare u Kanemoto boksu... ;)
Sledece trke su prolazile kako su prolazile... i kako Biaggi nije uzeo
nijednu pobedu sve do VN Ceske (Brno) govorio je da nema iskustva sa tim
motorom i da mu je svaka staza kao nova. Max je vodio u sampionatu kao
rookie, a Doohan je poceo da se nervira posle ovakvih izjava (hej, kako
jedan rookie da vodi u sampionatu ispred cetvorostrukog sampiona u toj
klasi) i opet je poceo da prica raznorazne gluposti o Biaggiju cime je
prakticno izazvao rat izmedju njih dvojice. Medjutim, ono sto je Biaggi
govorio bilo je u potpunosti tacno. Posto ta Repsol Honda ocigledno ima
prednost, Max je pokusavao da dobije motor sa punom podrskom fabrike.
Nije uspeo. Erv Kanemoto je na pocetku godine rekao da ce Max Biaggi
dobiti BIG BANG motor jer je doticni laksi za voznju od 180 SCREAMER
motora koji vozi jedino Doohan, a kada se Max navikne na njega dobice
taj Doohanov motor. Medjutim, od doticnog nije bilo nista jer je isti
ocigledno rezervisan samo za Doohana -- negde pre par trka Carlos Checa
je valjda testirao taj motor, medjutim, nije mogao da ga dobije iako je
hteo. Zbog toga Biaggi mozda razmislja o prelasku u Yamahu sledece
godine, medjutim, po meni bi to bio glup potez -- Yamaha vec ima
izuzetno dobre vozace (prvenstveno mislim na Bejla i Crafara koji dobro
napreduje), a ne postize dobre rezultate sto govori o nekonkurentnosti
motora.
Ja sam tokom sezone nekako stekao utisak da se Mick boji Maxa i da
uopste nije siguran u sebe -- cim je poceo ovaj rat reci izmedju njih,
Max je delovao kao bolji, a Mick je pravio glupe greske tipa izletanje u
prvom krugu u Ceskoj... ha, sad mi pade na pamet -- ne znam da li je
neko gledao, ali Max Biaggi je posle pobede u Ceskoj izveo nesto
apsolutno neverovatno; bio je to jedan *ogroman* wheelie gde se zamalo
prevrnuo -- prednji tocak je otisao iza zadnjeg u vazduh! Mick Doohan je
tada izjavio da je Biaggi imao srece sto se nije polomio na sta mu je
ovaj odgovorio da je bolje da izleti sa staze u trenutku kada slavi
pobedu nego kada pokusava da pobedi u prvom krugu trke ;).
Sad na poslednjoj trci, Biaggi je vodio ispred Barrosa i imao trku u
saci, medjutim, nekoliko krugova (valjda 7) pre kraja trke dobio je
stop'n'go kaznu. Kaznu je dobio zbog neceg sto se desilo u *prvom* krugu
trke, a to je bilo pre 34 minuta. Dobiti kaznu zbog neceg sto se desilo
pre 34 minuta je zaista smesno. A jos smesnije je to sto je kaznu dobio
i Alex Barros. Hej, samo jedan od njih je mogao da obidje drugog u tom
prvom krugu trke kada se mahalo zutom zastavom zbog JM Bejla. Dalje, u
tom krugu je bilo obilazenja negde pozadi (iza desetog mesta)... ali,
samo su Max Biaggi i Alex Barros dobili stop'n'go. Prvo, ako je bilo
opasno morala je da izadje crvena zastava, a ne zuta. Drugo, ako su vec
morali da dobiju kaznu zasto 34 minuta posle incidenta? Trece, valjda se
svi secaju sta se desilo na VN Holandije (Assen) prosle godine kada je
Biaggi diskvalifikovan jer nije postovao stop'n'go, koji nije ni trebao
da dobije... Sve je to delovalo na njega da ostane u trci i pobedi na
stazi ispred Doohana -- svi su videli kako je ustao na motoru, propustio
i Barrosa i Doohana pa ovog drugog posle ponovo obisao.
Ovih sledecih par trka ce biti izrazito zanimljive. Ako Doohan pobedi
u Australiji prakticno ce osigurati titulu... nadajmo se da se to nece
desiti ;).
auto-moto.339vector,
Layout staze u Australiji.
austr.jpgauto-moto.341vector,
Majstor u akciji.
bayle_02.jpgauto-moto.342vector,
Max Biaggi... mislim da ovu nisam ranije slao.
max25.jpgauto-moto.343vector,
Simon Crafar.
simon04.jpgauto-moto.344vector,
Probacu sutra da skinem izvestaj sa trke i jos neke zanimljivosti ako me
veza sa internetom posluzi (u poslednje vreme to nije slucaj).
auto-moto.345obren,
Ponedeljak, 21. Septembar 1998
Džordan očekuje dalji napredak
Tim "Jordan Grand Prix" očekuje poboljšanje performansi bolida za Veliku
nagradu Luksemburga. Majk Gaskojn je danas izjavio:
"Identifikovali smo jedan aerodinamički problem koji nas je dugo mučio i
stvarao probleme na sporim stazama. Na trci u Mađarskoj smo polovično
rešili problem što se moglo videti i po tamošnjim vremenima. U međuvremenu
smo napravili jedan mnogo veći korak u tom smeru tako da smo dizajnirali
potpuno novo prednje krilo i zadnje krilo koje bi trebalo da nam pomogne
da budemo vrlo konkurentni u Nirburgringu."
"Naše ambicije su treće mesto u konkurenciji konstruktora, tako da moramo
neprestano unapređivati bolid za svaku trku, kako bi bili u stanju da idemo
ka ovom cilju. U tome će nam pomoći i značajno poboljšan Mugen-Honda motor
koji će biti spreman za Suzuku."
U vezi vremenskih uslova, Gaskojn kaže: "Vreme će najverovatnije biti
hladno, tako da očekujem da će to odgovarati Goodyear pneumaticima.
Moram reći da je Goodyear odradio izuzetan posao prethodnih nekoliko
trka i da je čak stekao prednost nad Bridgestone preumaticima, kako po
suvom tako i po kiši. Što se našeg tima tiče, bili smo prilično dobri
i konkurentni po kiši. Uopšte, bolid se ponaša dobro u svim vremenskim
uslovima i ima odličan balans, tako da ne priželjkujem posebno ni kišu
ni suvo vreme."
auto-moto.346obren,
Utorak, 22. Septembar 1998.
Vilijams objavio imena vozača za 1998.
Vilijams je danas zvanično objavio imena njihovih budućih vozača u sezoni
1998. To su Ralf Šumaher i Aleks Zanardi. Frenk Vilijams, vlasnik tima,
poželeo je dobrodošlicu rečima: "vrlo smo srećni što će za nas nastupati
dvostruki 'prekookeanski' šampion, Aleks, kao i Ralf koji pokazuje veliki
potencijal."
Zanardi, koji je već obezbedio drugu titulu šamiona formule C.A.R.T.
iskoristio je priliku da se zahvali svom bivšem timu "Target/Chip Ganassi
Racing" za tri godine provedene sa njima. "Za protekle tri godine imao sam
fantastična saradnju sa mojim prijateljima iz Čip-Ganasi tima. Iskreno,
imao sam ponude da napustim tim i prethodnih sezona, ali nisam uzimao u
obzir takvu mogućnost jer sam znao da je moj ostanak u timu bio najbolji
izbor u tom trenutku."
Ralf Šumaher je sa svoje strane izjavio: "Veoma sam ponosan što sam
potpisao za jedan od najuspešnijih timova u istoriji Formule 1. Daću
sve od sebe, zajedno sa Aleksom, da se tim Vilijams vrati na vrh u
sezoni 1999."
Zanardi i Šumaher će zameniti prošlogodišnjeg svetskog šampiona Žaka
Vilneva, odnosno Hajnca-Heralda Frencena, koji su potpisali ugovore sa
timovima BAR i Džordan, respektivno.
auto-moto.347pavijan,
Zahvaljujem se vektoru na isrpnim informacijama. Inace imao sam tu srecu da
gledam moto-trke uzivo, dve godine za redom i to 87-88 na Gobniku. Ko nije
doziveo, toplo preporucujem odlazak na neku trku.
Pozdrav od pavijana
auto-moto.348junior,
> Ovih sledecih par trka ce biti izrazito zanimljive. Ako Doohan
> pobedi u Australiji prakticno ce osigurati titulu... nadajmo se
> da se to nece desiti ;).
Šta da kažem, nego svaka čast ;)
Stefane, markiraj ovo ;)
auto-moto.349vector,
┼─┤ Sta da kazem, nego svaka cast ;)
┼─┤ Stefane, markiraj ovo ;)
Prvo, rekoh bice zanimljive... Biaggi i Criville ima da se kolju da
sprece Doohana -- nije ti to f1, gde onaj ko povede prvi krug pobedi.
Drugo, moto trke su zanimljive i kada je titula odavno odlucena --
pogledaj Indoneziju prosle godine ili Eastern Creek 96 (Loriseee,
Loriseee ;)
Btw, kad vec spominjem Capirossija... gledao sam ga sad pre neki dan
na snimku Porsche Super-Cup trke u Monzi -- kakav je to car ;).
auto-moto.350vpoznanovic,
Luxembourg Grand Prix 1998
from NŘrburgring, Germany
25th September 1998 - 27th September 1998
Friday, September 25th
1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Saturday, September 26th
3rd Free Practice (09:00 - 09:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET)
Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET)
Sunday, September 27th
Warm-up (09:30 - 10:00 CET)
Race (14:00 - 16:00 CET) (67 laps)
auto-moto.351vpoznanovic,
F1: Luxembourg GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:19.689
2. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:20.325 0.636 0.636
3. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:20.326 0.001 0.637
4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:20.461 0.135 0.772
5. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20.577 0.116 0.888
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:20.841 0.264 1.152
7. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.014 0.173 1.325
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:21.174 0.160 1.485
9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:21.351 0.177 1.662
10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.391 0.040 1.702
11. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:21.538 0.147 1.849
12. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:21.738 0.200 2.049
13. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.764 0.026 2.075
14. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.952 0.188 2.263
15. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:22.485 0.533 2.796
16. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.566 0.081 2.877
17. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:22.603 0.037 2.914
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:22.792 0.189 3.103
19. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.967 0.175 3.278
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:23.331 0.364 3.642
21. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:23.644 0.313 3.955
22. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:24.004 0.360 4.315
107% of fastest time: 1:25.267
auto-moto.352vpoznanovic,
F1: Luxembourg GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:19.850
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:19.925 0.075 0.075
3. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:20.327 0.402 0.477
4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20.388 0.061 0.538
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:20.457 0.069 0.607
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:20.646 0.189 0.796
7. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:20.819 0.173 0.969
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:20.834 0.015 0.984
9. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.953 0.119 1.103
10. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:20.982 0.029 1.132
11. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:21.050 0.068 1.200
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.427 0.377 1.577
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:21.649 0.222 1.799
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:21.704 0.055 1.854
15. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:21.781 0.077 1.931
16. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.276 0.495 2.426
17. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.399 0.123 2.549
18. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.893 0.494 3.043
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:22.968 0.075 3.118
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:23.019 0.051 3.169
21. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:23.928 0.909 4.078
107% of fastest time: 1:25.439
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:25.570 1.642 5.720
auto-moto.353vpoznanovic,
F1: Luxembourg GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:18.561
2. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:18.907 0.346 0.346
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:18.940 0.033 0.379
4. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:19.048 0.108 0.487
5. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:19.169 0.121 0.608
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:19.455 0.286 0.894
7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.522 0.067 0.961
8. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:19.569 0.047 1.008
9. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:19.631 0.062 1.070
10. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:19.807 0.176 1.246
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:20.493 0.686 1.932
12. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:20.530 0.037 1.969
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:20.650 0.120 2.089
14. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:20.709 0.059 2.148
15. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:21.048 0.339 2.487
16. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:21.120 0.072 2.559
17. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:21.258 0.138 2.697
18. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:21.501 0.243 2.940
19. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:21.525 0.024 2.964
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.078 0.553 3.517
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:22.146 0.068 3.585
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:22.822 0.676 4.261
107% of fastest time: 1:24.060
auto-moto.354giovanni,
Schumi, Schumi, Schumi majstore pa ti si Bog
Schumi, Schumi, Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Kad on vozi to je lom.
Po pisti pravi vratolom.
Deli packe za ceo Meklaren.
Zato je mali Mika potisten.
Hej svi aplauz sad za naseg Schumija
Schumi majstore pa ti si bog.
Hej neka peva sad cela Sumadija
Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Dzordan, Beneton i Ferari
Pobedjuju kad on gari
Kultard Dejvid i Hakinen Mika
Imaju Boga za protivnika.
Schumi, Schumi, Schumi majstore pa ti si Bog
Schumi, Schumi, Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Hop Schumi, vozi Schumi
Schumi predji Miku
Hop Schumi, vozi Schumi
Schumi predji Miku...
auto-moto.355junior,
> Schumi, Schumi, Schumi majstore pa ti si Bog
> Schumi, Schumi, Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Da ne zaboravimo i:
Više volim Ferari nego kevu i ćaletaaaa..;))
auto-moto.356vpoznanovic,
F1: Luxembourg GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20.396
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:20.915 0.519 0.519
3. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.362 0.447 0.966
4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:21.515 0.153 1.119
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:21.636 0.121 1.240
6. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:21.870 0.234 1.474
7. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:22.206 0.336 1.810
8. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:22.257 0.051 1.861
9. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:22.278 0.021 1.882
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:22.352 0.074 1.956
11. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:22.582 0.230 2.186
12. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:22.698 0.116 2.302
13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:22.716 0.018 2.320
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:23.104 0.388 2.708
15. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:23.112 0.008 2.716
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:23.248 0.136 2.852
17. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:23.398 0.150 3.002
18. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:23.555 0.157 3.159
19. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:23.997 0.442 3.601
20. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:24.178 0.181 3.782
21. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:24.333 0.155 3.937
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:25.225 0.892 4.829
auto-moto.357legolas,
E J***M TI BK!
Zar moraju najinteresantnije delove da prekidaju reklama????
auto-moto.358legolas,
Posle ovoga u Luxembourgu ja bi radije pevo:
Miko, Miko, Miko majstore pa ti si Bog
Miko, Miko, Miko genije pa ti si Bog.
Kad on vozi to je lom.
Po pisti pravi vratolom.
Donosi popede za ceo Meklaren.
Zato je mali Shumi potisten.
Hej svi aplauz sad za naseg Hakinena
Miko majstore pa ti si bog.
Hej neka peva sad cela Sribija
Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Dzordan, Beneton i Ferari
Gube trke kad on gari
Kultard Dejvid i Hakinen Mika
Su bogovi za protivnika.
Miko, Miko, Miko majstore pa ti si Bog
Miko, Miko, Miko genije pa ti si Bog.
Hop miko, vozi Miko
Schumija predji Miko
Hop Miko, vozi Miko
Schumija predji Miko...
VOLIM MIKU VISE NEGO KEVU I CALETAAA
auto-moto.359stefan,
>Schumi, Schumi, Schumi majstore pa ti si Bog
>Schumi, Schumi, Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Ptice umiru pevajući? ;)
auto-moto.360vpoznanovic,
F1: Luxembourg GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:32:14.789
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G +2.212
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B +34.164
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G +58.183
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G +1:00.248
6. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B +1:01.360
7. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B +1:04.790
8. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G -1 lap
9. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G -1 lap
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
11. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B -2 laps
12. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B -2 laps
13. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B -2 laps
14. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B -2 laps
15. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B -2 laps
16. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G -2 laps
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 57
DNF Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G on lap 54
DNF Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G on lap 38
DNF Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 37
DNF Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B on lap 7
DNF Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B on lap 7
auto-moto.361vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Luxembourg GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 90
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 86
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 52
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 41
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 20
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 17
Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 16
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 15
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 14
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 9
12. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
13. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 3
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 142
2. Ferrari I 127
3. Williams-Mecachrome GB 35
4. Benetton-Playlife I 33
5. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 31
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 10
7. Arrows-TWR GB 6
8. Stewart-Ford GB 5
9. Prost-Peugeot F 1
auto-moto.363vpoznanovic,
F1: Luxembourg GP winners' press conference
Sunday, 27 September 1998
1. Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes), 1hr 32:14.789
2. Michael Schumacher (Ferrari), +2.2 seconds
3. David Coulthard (McLaren-Mercedes), +34.2 seconds
Q. Congratulations, Mika, on winning your seventh GP of the season. How
does it feel to have taken the lead again in the drivers' championship?
MH: Winning this race obviously gives us the advantage in the
championship again. It will also give the team even more motivation to
get the car prepared even better for the final race in Japan.
Q. After the start, when you were still in third place behind Eddie
Irvine, Michael was disappearing down the road. How worried were you
that you might not be able to catch up the lost time?
MH: I don't know whether I would use the word 'worried.' In that
situation you have to accept what is happening and maximise your car,
your speed and yourself as you try to gain back the places. If that's
not possible, you have to do the best that you can. I wasn't too
worried, I was just pushing. Straight from the start I was running hard
and keeping up the pressure. When Eddie was still leading, at one point
he made a small mistake in the chicane and went wide, which gave Michael
the opportunity to overtake. I think Eddie must have had a problem with
his car because when I was running behind him I could see it all over
the place in the corners. That is what allowed me to overtake him.
Q. Once Michael came in for his first stop and you took the lead, your
laps times showed that you were pushing extremely hard. How big a risk
were you taking by lapping so quickly?
MH: It's very strange. When you are driving flat out and going at your
maximum round the corners, you don't think you're taking a risk. You're
just trying the maximum and putting the car on the limit. You don't
think in terms of taking risks. Everything is very much under control
and the only risk comes if something goes wrong and you will go off.
Q. Michael, although you started from pole position, you were beaten
away from the line by your team mate Eddie Irvine. Was that part of your
team's plans today?
MS: No, it wasn't a Ferrari tactic. Going into the first corner I was
slightly behind him and if I had wanted to do so I could have tried to
pass on the outside. But I didn't see any reason because I knew there
would be an opportunity to go ahead of Eddie later on. I just accepted
the situation perfectly: Mika was behind me and, as he said, Eddie made
a mistake at the chicane which allowed me to pass him. After that the
situation was nice and good. But at this stage the tyres started to go
away a little bit and I couldn't push as hard as I wanted. Also, the
balance wasn't perfectly right either. We adapted it for the last stint,
when the car was a bit better, but it still wasn't enough. We have to
accept that we weren't fast enough in the race.
Q. After Mika emerged from his first pit stop, still ahead of you, did
Ross Brawn make any changes to the tactics in order to get you back into
the lead after your second stop?
MS: No, after that the tactics had already been decided. I was a bit
surprised that he had been able to get in front of me, because I had
built up a lead of more than five seconds before I came into the pits.
I don't know how many laps longer Mika stayed out than I had done, but
I was believing it would be enough. Even so, I knew it would be tight.
And as you saw, he just took a little bit extra and he got in front of
me. Even if I had kept him behind me at the first stop, there would have
been another chance for him to get by at the second stop. So overall, as
I said before, we have to accept that we weren't fast enough for this
race. We now have four or five weeks for more testing, and we are going
to use that.
Q. You will have to beat Mika by more than four points in Japan to take
the title. What are the things that you can do in these five weeks?
MS: Just like everyone else involved in this fight, I guess we have a
heavy programme of testing. We are very close and we will try hard.
If not, then still have enough reasons to be very happy about our
achievements this year. I believe we still can be proud of ourselves.
Q. David, on the grid we noticed that McLaren was putting a little more
fuel in the cars. Was that a late call?
DC: No, it was always part of our plan to decide what was happening with
the weather before finalising the fuel on the grid. You are only allowed
to add a small amount on the grid, and it wasn't really enough to make
any difference.
Q. How confident were you that the track would stay dry?
DC: The forecast we had said it would be dry. You have to believe
some of the things you hear, so you may as well believe in your own
forecaster. Irrespective of what might have happened later in the race,
it was clear that it was dry at the start. I would certainly not have
gone into the race with anything but a dry setup.
Q. Mika, will you be testing, too?
MH: Yes, we have testing coming up in Barcelona. Going to Suzuka, it is
obviously going to be interesting. We have had some great fights this
year, and as Michael said we can be proud of our achievements, whatever
happens in Japan. Everyone has done a great job and I am looking forward
to it. I would like to add one thing, which is to thank Mario Illien
for what he has done. It is one year ago since David and I were running
comfortably in first and second places at this race -- and we failed.
This year Mercedes and Mario have showed that they can fix problems and
be the best. I am happy it happened here.
auto-moto.364senna,
Cipelic, ale alee!
auto-moto.365giovanni,
Ę? Posle ovoga u Luxembourgu ja bi radije pevo:
Papagaji! ;)
auto-moto.366legolas,
>>Ę? Posle ovoga u Luxembourgu ja bi radije pevo:
>> Papagaji! ;)
Priznaj da sam bar lepo prepevao ;)
auto-moto.367payce,
=> Hej svi aplauz sad za naseg Hakinena
=> Miko majstore pa ti si bog.
=> Hej neka peva sad cela Sribija
=> Schumi genije pa ti si Bog.
Prvi stih ima slog više, treći slog manje, a četvrti stih jedini
sadrži pravu istinu. ;)
Toliko o dobrom prepevu...
auto-moto.368pifat,
Za tim Sauber u narednoj sezoni voziće Žan Alezi i Pedro Diniz.
auto-moto.369vpoznanovic,
>> Za tim Sauber u narednoj sezoni voziće Žan Alezi i Pedro Diniz.
Dok je na Zanardijevo mjesto u Chip Ganassi Racing timu došao Juan-Pablo
Montoya.
auto-moto.370petarg,
Privremena lista trka za sezonu 1999.
07.03. Australia, Melbourne
21.03. China, Zhuhai <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
11.04. Brazil, Interlagos
02.05. San Marino, Imola
16.05. Monaco, Monte-Carlo
30.05. Spain, Barcelona
13.06. Canada, Montreal
27.06. France, Magny-Cours
11.07. England, Silverstone
25.07. Austria, Spielberg
01.08. Germany, Hockenheim
15.08. Hungary, Budapest
29.08. Belgium, Spa
12.09. Italy, Monza
26.09. Europe, Nurburgring
17.10. Malaysia, Sepang <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
31.10. Japan, Suzuka
Nema Argentine?
JG
auto-moto.371petarg,
19/10/98 Mikaĺs hopes
Mika Hakkinen fully expects to win the Japanese Grand Prix in a clean
fight with Michael Schumacher to claim his first world championship.
Speaking to Bild, Hakkinen said "If everything goes normally, I think
I will win in Japan. There's no point in speculating on second place.
I will race as if we were level on points."
When asked about Michael Schumacherĺs tendency to take out his
championship contenders, Hakkinen dismissed the thought. "He has had
enough negative experiences in the past, He cannot and will not let
such things happen again. I don't expect any tricks from him and I
am not afraid of him either. I have nothing to lose and will go into
this race totally relaxed. You can only lose when you've already
been the winner. Michael has already been the world champion twice.
So he has a lot to lose. I haven't."
JG
auto-moto.372pecanac,
> Nema Argentine?
Ona je prva rezervna staza, u slučaju da dođe do problema na nekoj
od tekućih staza.
auto-moto.373senna,
Zonta potpisao za BAR.. Bice krvav timski duel ;)
auto-moto.374vpoznanovic,
Japanese Grand Prix 1998
from Suzuka, Japan
30th October 1998 - 1st November 1998
Friday, October 30th
1st Free Practice (03:00 - 04:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (05:00 - 06:00 CET)
Saturday, October 31st
3rd Free Practice (01:00 - 01:45 CET)
4th Free Practice (02:15 - 03:00 CET)
Qualifying (05:00 - 06:00 CET)
Sunday, November 1st
Warm-up (00:30 - 01:00 CET)
Race (05:00 - 07:00 CET) (53 laps)
auto-moto.375vpoznanovic,
F1: Japanese GP Friday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:39.823
2. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:40.336 0.513 0.513
3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:40.389 0.053 0.566
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:40.615 0.226 0.792
5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:40.644 0.029 0.821
6. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:40.845 0.201 1.022
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:41.098 0.253 1.275
8. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:41.252 0.154 1.429
9. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:42.191 0.939 2.368
10. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:42.224 0.033 2.401
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:42.628 0.404 2.805
12. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:42.833 0.205 3.010
13. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:43.121 0.288 3.298
14. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:43.493 0.372 3.670
15. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:43.634 0.141 3.811
16. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:43.788 0.154 3.965
17. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:43.854 0.066 4.031
18. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:43.894 0.040 4.071
19. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:44.468 0.574 4.645
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:44.632 0.164 4.809
21. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:45.054 0.422 5.231
22. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:46.396 1.342 6.573
107% of fastest time: 1:46.811
auto-moto.376petarg,
Thursday 29 October 1998
"Thursday Four" press conference -- Drivers: "Thursday Four" press
conference -- David Coulthard (McLaren), Mika Hakkinen (McLaren), Eddie
Irvine (Ferrari) and Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
Q. Mika, to what extent can you treat a championship-deciding race as a
normal GP weekend?
MH: Coming here, that is the intention we have set for ourselves. But
obviously it is not a normal race. Whatever experience I have gained
during my career in Formula 1, this is completely different. I am
finding it very challenging. I wouldn't say it is easy, but then none of
the GPs in which I have competed this year has been easy. I am looking
forward to it and I am really happy to be here.
Q. You say you want to win, but you have also said that it is not
necessary to become champion. Have you made up your mind yet about what
you really want from this race?
MH: It certainly depends on how Sunday's race develops. It's unrealistic
for me to sit here and say whether I am going to be second, third, first
or whatever. That decision is for Sunday.
Q. Michael, last year we saw how much help you could get from your team
mate. What are you expecting from Eddie on Sunday?
MS: Basically, for him to do as good a job as he has already done at
several races this year, and also during testing. That's not too much to
ask, because he can do a lot of things himself and he knows how to race.
He also wants to do as well as he can for himself.
Q. David, what is your plan to help Mika?
DC: It all depends on the situation in the race. Clearly everyone will
be out to do his best in qualifying. But one thing is sure about Sunday:
it is going to be a hard, close race between McLaren and Ferrari. I
think our McLaren will be good round this circuit, and maybe it will all
depend on differences between the tyres.
Q. Eddie, to what extent can you help Michael?
EI: That depends on where we each qualify, and where the McLarens
qualify. Even though we'll know all that on Saturday night, it could all
change at the first corner. Last year Michael and I were very lucky the
way things worked out. With him going slow, I was able to go round the
outside of him, and that put things into our hands. That's doesn't mean
to say it will happen like that again. This time, if the McLarens are
one second a lap quicker and start from the front row of the grid, there
won't be much that Michael and I can do about it. We have to suss it as
it happens.
Q. Your emotions before the last race?
MS: As of yet I don't feel it. The tension is not really there yet,
maybe it will change on Sunday. But it's pretty relaxed.
Q. Mika, what are your feelings?
MH: I'm actually quite surprised how relaxed I am. For me it is all new
to be in the situation that I am. You just have to be very relaxed in
your mind and very focused in your work. There is no point in starting
to think about the situation too much, otherwise you will get nervous.
You just have to concentrate on your driving and your work with the
team, and that's it. Maybe, like Michael said, the tension goes up on
Sunday. Not yet.
Q. Michael, what have you been doing in the last five weeks apart from
testing? Have you been able to clear your mind of the championship?
MS: I don't feel it's necessary to do anything special for the situation
except what we have done: going testing, doing your normal training
programme and leaving enough time to balance yourself, which I usually
do at home with my family. I played some football.
Q. Eddie and David, where from a sporting view do you draw the line in
helping your teammate?
DC: It's very difficult to try and give an answer to the question
because you don't know the situation [will be]. Every racing incident is
different. Everyone is going to have a different opinion ...
MS: Are we going to have racing incidents?
DC: ... and therefore whether you drive somebody off the road is always
going to be down to a matter of opinion. From my side I have certainly
said in the past that I believe very much in what is the racing line. I
also have my opinion on certain things which other drivers will disagree
on. But I'm not here to break the rules as I read and understand them to
help Mika win the championship. I have never done that for my own
championships in the past, so I don't see why I should do it for someone
else's. Equally, I won't make it as easy as Eddie did for Mika did to
overtake at the Nurburgring, if that was the situation. I would have put
up a lot more of a fight than he did there, because it would have
benefited his teammate.
EI: I agree. If Mika is trying to overtake me, he's got to be more
careful than if he is overtaking somebody else, because I have nothing
to lose. So I can afford to take a bit more of a chance. It's the same
for Michael with DC. The guy who is fighting for the championship has a
bit more to lose than the guy who is not fighting for the championship.
I wouldn't want to take Mika off -- or anybody else off for that matter
-- so that Michael could win the championship because I wouldn't want
somebody to do it to me. That's how you have to judge it.
auto-moto.377obren,
Friday October 30th, 1998
Friday Practice PM & Aggregate times (Japanese GP)
Schumacher heads the day for Ferrari
Michael Schumacher got to work on trying the two Goodyear tyre options for
this race as well as changing the mechanical and aerodynamic set-up of his
Ferrari and took the fastest time of the day half a second ahead of his
closest rival. Despite the impressive showing, Schumacher was still
conservative about his performance this weekend. "Of course I am happy to
be on the provisional pole, but I do not think todayĺs result shows the
whole truth and therefore I expect qualifying to be very close tomorrow. I
believe we are competitive. All the hard work in testing over the past few
weeks seems to have paid off," said the German.
Eddie Irvine carried out a similar programme with long runs on a heavy fuel
load to check tyre wear, but his session was cut short when he spun off
into a gravel trap due to a brake imbalance problem. "We have a good idea
in which direction to go, but we are not there yet," said the Irishman, who
still ended up fourth fastest.
Ralf makes it an all Schumacher top duo
Ralf Schumacher was also impressive in the Jordan at this race, the younger
brother of Michael setting the second fastest time of the day with his
Jordan Mugen-Honda after 6 laps on the same set of tyres. Damon Hill was
struggling compared with his team mate, the British driver only seventh
fastest, 1.3 seconds slower than Ralf after running the car in race
specification throughout the session.
Frentzen still third fastest for Williams
Heinz Harald Frentzen continued to make good progress with his revised
Williams-Mecachrome, the German working on the set-up to take the third
fastest time of the day. In contrast, Villeneuve was having an oversteer
problem with his car's set-up and was unable to better eighth fastest for
the day complaining that his car was too loose at the rear end.
Hakkinen slips to fifth
Fastest this morning, Mika Hakkinen was only fifth fastest by the end of
the day. The Finn happy with his car but not with the Minardi which had
slowed him going into the chicane on his final flying lap. David Coulthard
made changes to the rear suspension and aerodynamics of his McLaren during
the session and was a lot happier with his car's handling after setting the
sixth fastest time.
Top ten time for Verstappen
Jos Verstappen put the Stewart into the top 10 with the ninth fastest time
of the session, helped in part by a new set of tyres and a new differential
of the car. Rubens Barrichello was back in 17th place after getting delayed
by yellow flags on his quick runs.
In brief...
bad afternoon for Sauber. Both the Sauber cars were hors de combat early in
the session when Jean Alesi spun off and Johnny Herbert pulled off with a
smoking engine about to blow up. Salo complained of understeer in his
Arrows. Jarno Trulli ran 38 laps for the Prost team, more than anyone else
today.
Timing
-------------
POS DRIVER NATION TEAM TIME
1. M.SCHUMACHER GER Ferrari 1:39.823 211.478 km/h
2. R.SCHUMACHER GER Jordan Mugen-Hond 1:40.336 + 0.513
3. H.H.FRENTZEN GER Williams Mecachro 1:40.389 + 0.566
4. E.IRVINE GBR Ferrari 1:40.615 + 0.792
5. M.HAKKINEN FIN McLaren Mercedes 1:40.644 + 0.821
6. D.COULTHARD GBR McLaren Mercedes 1:40.845 + 1.022
7. D.HILL GBR Jordan Mugen-Hond 1:41.098 + 1.275
8. J.VILLENEUVE CAN Williams Mecachro 1:41.252 + 1.429
9. J.VERSTAPPEN NED Stewart Ford 1:42.191 + 2.368
10. G.FISICHELLA ITA Benetton Playlife 1:42.224 + 2.401
11. A.WURZ AUT Benetton Playlife 1:42.628 + 2.805
12. T.TAKAGI JPN Tyrrell Ford 1:42.833 + 3.010
13. J.TRULLI ITA Prost Peugeot 1:43.121 + 3.298
14. O.PANIS FRA Prost Peugeot 1:43.493 + 3.670
15. M.SALO FIN Arrows TWR 1:43.634 + 3.811
16. J.ALESI FRA Sauber Petronas 1:43.788 + 3.965
17. R.BARRICHELLO BRA Stewart Ford 1:43.854 + 4.031
18. J.HERBERT GBR Sauber Petronas 1:43.894 + 4.071
19. P.DINIZ BRA Arrows TWR 1:44.468 + 4.645
20. S.NAKANO JPN Minardi Ford 1:44.632 + 4.809
21. R.ROSSET BRA Tyrrell Ford 1:45.054 + 5.231
22. E.TUERO ARG Minardi Ford 1:46.396 + 6.573
Temperature: air 20-19C track 34-29C
All timing is unofficial
auto-moto.378vpoznanovic,
F1: Japanese GP Saturday free practice
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:38.429
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:38.673 0.244 0.244
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:38.752 0.079 0.323
4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:38.874 0.122 0.445
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:39.883 1.009 1.454
6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:40.003 0.120 1.574
7. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:40.146 0.143 1.717
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:40.265 0.119 1.836
9. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:40.552 0.287 2.123
10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:40.857 0.305 2.428
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:40.925 0.068 2.496
12. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:41.002 0.077 2.573
13. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:41.105 0.103 2.676
14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:41.172 0.067 2.743
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:41.543 0.371 3.114
16. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:41.823 0.280 3.394
17. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:41.889 0.066 3.460
18. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:41.924 0.035 3.495
19. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:42.786 0.862 4.357
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:43.013 0.227 4.584
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:43.048 0.035 4.619
107% of fastest time: 1:45.319
auto-moto.379vpoznanovic,
F1: Japanese GP Saturday qualifying
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:36.293
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:36.471 0.178 0.178
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:37.496 1.025 1.203
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:38.197 0.701 1.904
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:38.272 0.075 1.979
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:38.448 0.176 2.155
7. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:38.461 0.013 2.168
8. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:38.603 0.142 2.310
9. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:38.959 0.356 2.666
10. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:39.080 0.121 2.787
11. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:39.234 0.154 2.941
12. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:39.448 0.214 3.155
13. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:40.037 0.589 3.744
14. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:40.111 0.074 3.818
15. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:40.387 0.276 4.094
16. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:40.502 0.115 4.209
17. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:40.619 0.117 4.326
18. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:40.687 0.068 4.394
19. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:40.943 0.256 4.650
20. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:41.315 0.372 5.022
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:42.358 1.043 6.065
107% of fastest time: 1:43.033
22. Ricardo Rosset BR Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:43.259 0.901 6.966
auto-moto.381vpoznanovic,
Za one koji ne znaju, Velika nagrada Japana će, kao uostalom i sve
ovogodišnje neevropske trke, biti emitovana u obliku snimka, odmah po
završetku trke, sutra ujutro oko 06:45, na BK Televiziji.
auto-moto.382senna,
Ale aleee! ;)
auto-moto.383vpoznanovic,
F1: Japanese GP Sunday warm-up
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time Gap To 1st
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 1:40.431
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:40.710 0.279 0.279
3. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:41.056 0.346 0.625
4. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:41.119 0.063 0.688
5. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 1:41.246 0.127 0.815
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:41.452 0.206 1.021
7. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 1:41.510 0.058 1.079
8. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 1:41.902 0.392 1.471
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 1:42.611 0.709 2.180
10. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 1:42.650 0.039 2.219
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 1:42.700 0.050 2.269
12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1:42.837 0.137 2.406
13. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 1:42.881 0.044 2.450
14. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B 1:42.967 0.086 2.536
15. Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B 1:43.593 0.626 3.162
16. Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G 1:43.776 0.183 3.345
17. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1:43.834 0.058 3.403
18. Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B 1:43.935 0.101 3.504
19. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 1:44.205 0.270 3.774
20. Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 1:44.273 0.068 3.842
21. Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B 1:45.733 1.460 5.302
auto-moto.384vpoznanovic,
F1: Japanese GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Time
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 1:27:22.535
2. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G +6.491
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B +27.662
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G +1:13.491
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G +1:13.857
6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G +1:15.867
7. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G +1:36.053
8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B +1:41.301
9. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B -1 lap
10. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G -1 lap
11. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot/B -1 lap
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B -3 laps
DNF Shinji Nakano J Minardi-Ford/B on lap 43
DNF Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G on lap 34
DNF Toranosuke Takagi J Tyrrell-Ford/G on lap 31
DNF Esteban Tuero ARG Minardi-Ford/B on lap 31
DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B on lap 28
DNF Jos Verstappen NL Stewart-Ford/B on lap 24
DNF Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B on lap 17
DNF Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G on lap 16
DNF Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B on lap 5
auto-moto.385vpoznanovic,
F1: Final 1998 Formula 1 World Championship standings
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes/B 100
2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari/G 86
3. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes/B 56
4. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari/G 47
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Mecachrome/G 21
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 20
7. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Playlife/B 17
Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Mecachrome/G 17
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Playlife/B 16
10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan Mugen-Honda/G 14
11. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas/G 9
12. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford/B 4
13. Mika Salo FIN Arrows-TWR/B 3
Pedro Diniz BR Arrows-TWR/B 3
15. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas/G 1
Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford/B 1
Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot/B 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 156
2. Ferrari I 133
3. Williams-Mecachrome GB 38
4. Jordan Mugen-Honda GB 34
5. Benetton-Playlife I 33
6. Sauber-Petronas CH 10
7. Arrows-TWR GB 6
8. Stewart-Ford GB 5
9. Prost-Peugeot F 1
auto-moto.386legolas,
MIKO GENIJE PA TI SI BOOOG!
auto-moto.387obren,
Izjave tri prvoplasirana vozača na konferenciji za štampu nakon trke:
ČESTITKE, MIKA, NA OSVOJENOM PRVOM MESTU I ŠAMPIONSKOJ TITULU. KAKAV JE
OSEĆAJ BITI ŠAMPIONA?
Mika Hakinen: Ne znam kako da izrazim svoja osećanja. Od kada sam počeo
da se takmičim, 1991. godine, uvek sam davao se borio, jer sam želeo da
ostvarim maksimalne rezultate kako za sebe tako i za tim. Od kada sam
došao u Meklaren 1993. godine, a posebno sada sa Vest-Meklaren-Mercedesom,
mogao sam da se borim i za podijume i prva mesta. Očigledno, trebalo je
dosta vremena za ovako nešto, ali sada kada se konačno dogodilo, stalno
se okrećem nazad da vidim šta smo postigli i srećan sam zbog toga. Da nije
časova i časova teškog rada svih ljudi u fabrici, dizejnera, marketinga,
naših partnera, još uvek ne bismo bili pobednici. Ali naporan rad doveo
nas je ovde gde smo sada: mi smo svetski šampioni.
ČINI SE DA STE NA STARTU PRESTUPILI SVOJU LINIJU. DA LI STE SE ZABRINULI
ZBOG TOGA, ODNOSNO DA LI STE OČEKIVALI DA BISTE I SAMI MOGLI DA SE NAĐETE
NA KRAJU KOLONE?
Mika Hakinen: No, ni malo. Kada se upale crvena svetla, znate da treba da
krenete kada se ona ugase. E pa, ona se nisu ugasila a pojavila su se
i žuta trepteća svetla. Bio sam toliko uzbuđen pa i pored te činjenice,
kao da sam čekao da se svetla ugase da bih pojurio. Ipak, bilo mi je jasno
da se start ponavlja tako da je sve ispalo OK.
KADA JE MIHAEL OSTAO U MESTU NAKON DRUGOG STARTA, DA LI STE OSETILI
DA JE PRITISAK SPLASNUO?
Mika Hakinen: Da, jesam zaista!
KADA JE MIHAEL MORAO DA STARTUJE SA KRAJA KOLONE, KOLIKO JE BILO LAKŠE
DA SE KONTROLIŠE TOK TRKE?
Mika Hakinen: Bilo je lakše nego u slučaju nekih drugih trka ove godine.
Bio sam i u mnogo težim situacijama nego što je ova, ali sam ovoga puta
osećao strašan psihološki pritisak. To je delimično uticao na moje
performanse, ali rekao bih da je to normalno. Ipak, uspeo sam da se
smirim tako da je bilo dosta lakše držati situaciju pod kontrolom.
Tim je imao veliku ulogu u svemu tome, jer me je nepkrekidno izveštavao
o svim dešavanjima na stazi, recimo o Dejvidu i Ediju. Ipak, u situacijama
kada vodite trku javlja se drugi problem, a to je da razmišljate o nekim
drugim stvarima a ne o vožnji. To mi se desilo nekih 10 krugova pre kraja
trke - za trenutak sam uhvatio sam sebe kako zviždućem dok vozim! Na sreću,
Ron [Denis] me je putem radija nekoliko puta podsećao da se skoncetrišem
i da ostanem priseban.
EDI, BILA JE OVO VRLO LEPA TRKA KOJU STE ZAVRŠILI NA DRUGOM MESTU.
ŠTA MISLITE O SVEMU ŠTO SE DEŠAVALO?
Eddie Irvine: Bilo je veliko iznenađenje što je Mihael morao da startuje
sa poslednje pozicije, jer sam iznenada shvatio da sada sve zavisi od mene.
Moram sam da prebacim prekidač u glavi na drugi režim, a na sreću imao sam
fantastičan start tako da sam mogao da pratim Miku i vršim đavolski
pritisak na njega. Međutim, iako sam držao njegov ritam, nisam mogao da
učinim ništa konkretno. Tada su gume počele da propadaju što je omogućilo
Miki da mi odmakne. Posle prvog pit-stopa, ponovo sam počeo da ga stižem
ali su ponovo i gume počele da se prebrzo troše pa mi je prilično pobegao.
Žao mi je što nisam mogao da učinim ništa više, i da možda ostvarim svoju
prvu pobedu u karijeri.
Q: DA LI JE DOŠLO DO PROMENE U VAŠOJ PLANIRANOJ TAKTICI, KADA STE VIDELI
DA ĆE MIHAEL STARTOVATI SA ZAČELJA?
Eddie Irvine: Taktika se nije promenila, ona je bila potpuno uništena!
Poslednjih nekoliko dana razmatrali smo veliki broj varijanti: šta ako
Mika bude ovde a Mihael onde, Dejvid tamo a ja na ovom ili onom mestu
i tako dalje. Bilo je nekih 16 taktičkih varijanti koje smo vrlo detaljno
razmotrili. Međutim niko nije uzimao u obzir mogućnost da Mihael padne
na startu ispod druge pozicije, tako da su svi naši planovi trenutno
pali u vodu tako da je na kraju ispala čista, klasična trka: videti
ko će od nas biti najbrži.
Q: DEJVIDE, NA STARTU TRKE HAJNC-HERALD VAS JE OBIŠAO DOK STE VI
POKUŠAVALI DA ZATVORITE EDIJA? DA LI JE TO BILO U PITANJU?
Dejvid Kultard: Da. Pred krug za zagrevanje, ler-gas mi je bio relativno
mali i moj inžinjer mi je skrenuo pažnju da držim motor na visokom broju
obrtaja. Nažalost, izgleda da sam preterao, tako da su mi točkovi na
startu strahovito proklizali. U tom trenutku usredsredio sam se na to
da pokušam da zatvorim Edija, što je omogućilo Frencenu da me prilično
lako obiđe sa spoljne strane. U daljem toku trke nisam se izlagao većem
riziku jer moj zadatak je bio samo da završim trku u zoni poena, kako bi
osigurali šampionsku titulu u konstruktorima za slučaj da se Mikinom
bolidu nešto dogodi. Ipak, ispostavilo se da sam bez većih problema i
bez naročitog rizika komotno završio trku na trećoj poziciji.
Q: MIKA, VAŠ MENADŽER KEKE ROZBERG JE 1982. GODINE POSTAO PRVI FINSKI
ŠAMPION SVETA U FORMULI 1. MORA DA STE BILI SREĆNI ZBOG NJEGOVOG PRISUSTVA
I PODRŠKE OVDE...
Mika Hakinen: Siguran sam da je Keke srećan. On je bio ovde kao komentator
jedne Finske TV stanice i razgovarali smo pre trke. Pred neke trke ove
sezone primećivao sam na njemu veliku nervozu, ali začudo danas nije bio
ni malo nervozan što je bio dobar znak...
auto-moto.388obren,
Interesantne izjave iz 5 prvoplasiranih timova u šampionatu (osim
Vilijamsa koji još nije izdao nikakvo saopštenje).
McLAREN - šampion u konkurenciji konstruktura
Mika Hakinen je završio trku kao prvoplasirani i tako obezbedio šampionsku
titulu: "Ovo je izuzetan dan za mene. Trebalo mi je dosta vremena da dođem
u mogućnost da se borim za šampionsku titulu, ali sada kada se to ostvarilo,
veoma sam zadovoljan, naravno. Ceo tim je ove sezone mnogo postigao i ovo je
izuzetan rezultat za sve nas. Dva ponovljena starta su značila su da moram
ostati priseban i skoncetrisan bez obzira na psihološki pritisak. Moram reći
da je tim uradio sjajan posao jer je bolid imao optimalne karakteristike za
vreme trke. Naravno, činjenica da je Mihael startovao sa začelja delimično
je uklonila pritisak koji sam usećao, ali znao sam da je izuzetno brz i da
će mi za kratko vreme biti za petama. Sve vreme trke bio sam obaveštavan sa
pitvola o dešavanjima na stazi što je bilo veoma dobro i pomoglo mi da
ostanem hladan i koncentrisan na vožnju."
Dejvid Kultard, trećeplasirani i u trci i u šampionatu vozača: "Imao sam
veliko proklizavanje pogonskih točkova na startu, što je omogućilo Frencenu
da me obiđe. Osećao sam da moram da završim trku kako bih timu i Miki
osigurao šampionsku titulu, tako da nisam hteo da rizikujem i napadam
Frencena više nego što su prilike na stazi dozvoljavale. Srećan sam što je
Mika postao Svetski šampion, verujem da sam i ja u nekoliko prilika doprineo
tome. Hteo bih da se zahvalim i čestitam svima u Meklarenu i Mercedesu za
sve ono što su uradili na stazi i u fabrici."
Ron Denis, vlasnik tima Meklaren: "Veliki dan koji je doneo svima na stazi
i u fabrici zadovoljstvo zbog sjajnog uspeha. Kraj jedne vrlo naporne sezone
u kojoj smo ipak svi zadržali prisebnost u odlučujućim momentima. Moja
iskrena zahvalnost našem partneru, Mercedesu, kao i našim sponzorima Westu i
Mobilu. Bilo je još mnogo ljudi bez čijeg zalaganja sve ovo ne bi bilo moguće
ali bi njihovo nabrajanje oduzelo mnogo vremena. Svi oni imaju moje iskrene
čestitke i zahvalnost."
Norbert Haug, sportski direktor Mercedesa: "Svi su odradili sjajan posao
i čestitam im na tome. Kada smo imali nekoliko tehničkih problema oko
sredine sezone, nismo postali malodušni već smo još više radili da otklonimo
nastale probleme. Posebno sam srećan zbog Mike, jer smo i mi odgovorni što
mu nismo omogućili da još ranije obezbedi titulu i u završnicu sezone uđe
sa komotnom prednošću. Dejvid je odradio sjajan posao završivši treći u
šampionatu iako je izgubio mnogo poena usled tri otkaza motora ove sezone.
Pokušaćemo da osiguramo da ovako nešto ne ponovi sledeće sezone. Danas smo
postigli rezultat koji će biti značajna tačka sportskoj istoriji kompanije
Mercedes-Benz."
auto-moto.389obren,
FERRARI
Mihael Šumaher, nije završio trku, drugoplasirani u šampionatu:
"Prvo bih želeo da čestitam Miki Hakinenu i njegovom timu. Bili su bolji
tokom ove sezone i zaslužili su titulu. Mislim da nismo izgubili titulu
ovde u Suzuki, već u prvim fazama šampionata, kada smo bili previše iza
Meklarena po performansama. Nisam previše razočaran, jer mislim da tim
može biti zadovoljan onim što smo ostvarili ove sezone. Žao mi je momaka
iz tima jer se njihov naporni rad poslednjih nedelja na kraju nije isplatio.
Kod drugog starta, kvačilo mi se zaglavilo iz meni nepoznatog razloga. Sav
trud oko ovog vikenda otišao je niz vetar kada sam morao da startujem sa
začelja. Prvih nekoliko krugova probijanja bilo je prilično izbudljivo, a
većina vozača nije htela da mi otežava posao. Nisam očekivao da će zadnji
pneumatik da eksplodira, obzirom da sam imao problema sa prednjim delom
bolida, tačnije sa neprijatnim vibracijama. No šta je tu je, život ide dalje
i moramo gledati unapred, ka sledećoj sezoni."
Edi Irvajn, drugoplasirani u Suzuki, Četvoroplasirani u šampionati:
"Veoma sam zadovoljan zbog osvojenog drugog mesta. Naravno, sa Mihaelom
na kraju kolone sve se promenilo, i morao sam da prebacim prekidač u
svojoj glavi na drugi režim, odnosno taktiku. Imao sam fantastičan start
i pokušao sam da vršim neprestani pritisak na Miku kako bih ga naveo na
grešku. Međutim, gume su prilično brzo počele da se troše pa sam morao
da spustim ritam. Bila je to prava trka između mene i Mike, ali na žalost
nisam mogao da nastavim željenim tempom. Najbolja stvar za mene je što su
modifikacije na mom sedišu dale efekta, tako da sam mogao da vozim i kočim
znatno agresivnije. To je odlična stvar za sledeću sezonu, obzirom da sam
se cele ove godine mučio sa neudobnim sedištem i bolovima u leđima, sve do
ove trke u Suzuki."
Žan Tod, menadžer tima: "Znali smo da smo sebi zacrtali veoma težak zadatak
i očigledno je da su problemi koje je Mihael imao na startu učinili taj naš
cilj praktično nemogućim. Bez obzira na njegovo neverovatno probijanja sa
poslenje pozicije, nismo uspeli da dostignemo naš cilj. Neočekivani problem
sa pneumatikom, čiji uzrok još nismo otkrili, ostavio nas je bez šansi za
dalju borbu. Edi je pokazao sjajnu vožnju i završio na drugoj poziciji, ali
to nije bilo dovoljno da bilo šta promeni u šampionatu. Bila je ovo prilično
konkurentna sezona, ali sa mnogo uspona i padova. Naglasio bih samopregoran
rad svih ljudi u našem timu koji su demosntrirali svoje velike mogućnosti
cele sezone. Sada se moramo posvetiti pripremama za sledeću sezonu, a naši
ciljevi su jasni. Imamo i ljude i potrebnu infrastrukturu da to postignemo.
Hvala Gudjiru, koji napušta Formulu 1 nakon mnogih uspeha koje smo zajedno
ostvarili. Želeo bih da izrazim i zahvalnost svim našim sponzorima koji su
nas podržavali."
auto-moto.390obren,
JORDAN - četvrti u šampionatu konstruktora
Dejmon Hil, četvrtoplasirani u Suzuku, šestoplasirani u šampionatu:
"Ja sam apsolutno prezadovoljan. Ovo je bila sjajna sezona - zaista
izuzetna. Svi u našem timu su ostvarili neverovatan progres, Mugen-Honda,
Gudjir i naravno svi tehnilari i inženjeri ekipi Džordan. Sa nestrpljenjem
očekujem sledeću sezonu i tvrdim da ćemo dogodine biti tim u vrhu.
Uspeo sam da obiđem Hajnca-Heralda jednim dobrim manevrom, i time nam
osiguram četvrto mesto u šampionatu konstruktora. Jako sam srećan zbog
Mike. Bio je konzistentan cele sezone i uspeo da ostane hladan čak i u
najtežim trenucima. Rekao sam pre trke da će Mika pobediti i bio sam u
pravu."
Ralf Šumaher, nije završio trku, desetoplasirani u šampionatu:
"Ovo je bio razočaravajući način da završim dvogodišnji angažman u Džordanu.
Voleo bih da sam uspeo da osvojim još poena za tim, ali ovo očigledno nije
bio moj dan, tačnije nije bio dan za Šumahere. Dva restarta trke i dugo
stajanje u mestu doveli su do toga da temperatura ulja u motoru postane
izuzetno visoka što nismo uspeli da sredimo, a što je kasnije dovelo do
otkazivanja motora. Jako mi je žao zbog Mihaela, koji takođe nije uspeo
da završi trku kao i ja. Hteo bih da se zahvalim svima u Džordanu za dve
sjajne godine i izutnu drugu polovinu sezone. Edi Džordan i ja imali smo
dug i razgovor posle trke koji je bio vrlo emotivan."
Edi Džordan, vlasnik tima: "Ako se setite da smo na polovini sezone bili
27 poena iza Benetona, onda je jasno da je četvrto mesto u šampionatu za
koje smo morali da preteknemo Beneton, više nego izuzetno dostignuće. U
ovom trekutnu naše emocije su pomešane: srećni smo jer je ovo najbolji
rezultat u istiriji našeg tima, alu smo ujedno i tužni jer gubimo Ralfa.
Postignuti rezultat je ujedno i najbolja nagrada za ogroman rad i trud
svih ljudi u timu, teško mi je da iskažem sve što osećam u ovom trenutku.
Hteo bih još da dodam da mi je jako teško zbog činjenice da je ovo bila
poslednja Tirelova trka... Takođe, hteo bih da izrazim ličnu zahvalnost
Gudjiru za fantastičan odnos prema meni i mom timu."
auto-moto.391obren,
BENETTON - petoplasirani u šampionatu konstruktora
Đankarko Fisikela, osmi u Suzuki, deveti u šampionatu vozača:
"Zaista sam davao sam sve od sebe tokom cele trke. Balans bolida je bio
dobar, mnogo bolji nego na kvalifikacijama. Imao sam izvesnih problema
sa poslednjim setom pneumatika, pa sam se mučio sa podupravljivošću.
Pokušavao sam da obiđem Vilneva, ali sam zbog problema sa ogibljenjem
prednjeg desnog točka morao da usporim. Vrlo sam tužan što smo izgubili
jedno mesto u šampionatu konstruktora, ali oporavićemo se sledeće sezone."
Aleksander Vurc, deveti u Suzuki, sedmi u šampionatu vozača:
"Vrlo sam razočaran. Bila je ovo vrlo teška trka. Balans bolida nije bio
loš, ali performanse očigledno nisu bile na nivou Džordana i Vilijamsa.
Sada se moramo opraviti i razvedriti kako bi mogli da počnemo pripreme
za sledeću sezonu."
Roko Beneton, menadžer tima: "Tim je naporno radio celog vikenda a vozači
su davali svoj maksimum. Ovo nije rezultat kojem sam se nadao, ali želim
da čestitam Meklarenu, Mercedesu i Bridžstonu na šampionskoj tituli, i
posebno Džordanu koji je uspeo da nam preotme četvrto mestu u šampionatu.
To je bila rukavica u lice, naravno u pozitivnom smislu, i nećemo im
dozvoliti da ovako nešto ponovi. Počevši od sutra, bićemo čvrsto fokusirani
na našem planove za sledeću sezonu, u kojoj želimo da povratimo ono što je
bilo naše, a možda i da se ponovo umešamo u burbu za sam vrh tabele."
auto-moto.392djlucky,
Pozdrav!
Da neko nema slike bolida iz formule 1 pogodne za stavljanje na
podzadinu windows-a! Svi bolidi dolaze u obzir sem Sumaherovog!
auto-moto.393obren,
Uzrok kvara na Šumaherovom kvačilu
Šanse Mihaela Šumahera da treći put postane šampion, postale su praktično
zanemarljive kada je njegov bolid ostao nepomičan pri drugom startu trke.
Kasnijom analizom je ustanovljeno da je najverovatniji uzrok hidrauličkog
problema na Šumaherovom kvačilu bilo pregrevanje motora. Štaviše, može se
reći da popriličan deo krivice snose mehaničari Ferarija, jer nisu dovoljno
brzo intervenisali, iako je bilo jasno da se prvi start ponavlja.
Mika Hakinen, čiji mehaničari su munjevito reagovali i podmetnuli velike
količine suvog leda ispod pregrejanog motora, izjavio je: "Čudio sam se
gde su Mihaelovi mehaničari, jer su suviše kasno došli obzirom da su svima
motori počeli ekstremno da se greju od stajanja u mestu. Mogli ste osetiti
njihovu vrelinu unutar kokpita."
Ferari još nije izdao zvanično saopštenje povodom ovog slučaja.
auto-moto.394petarg,
A jel moze ovo?
Inace, probaj da nadjes sta ti se svidja na:
http://members.xoom.com/F1Wallpapers/f1/index1.htm
ili odes na
http://www.linksheaven.com/
http://www.formeleins.de/f1main.html
a tamo imas koliko hoces linkova...
JG
mika.jpgauto-moto.395djlucky,
E hvala za iscrpne izvore i sliku!
Pozdrav!
auto-moto.396petarg,
MIKA ALREADY READY TO RETAIN TITLE
Mika Hakkinen has warned Michael Schumacher that any hopes he harbours
of regaining his title dominance are doomed for failure again next year.
The newly crowned driver's champion is still basking in his success in
Japan yesterday, but is already looking towards a successful defence of
his crown.
"I want back to back titles," said the 30-year-old Finn. "I am
determined to win the championship again in 1999 and what happened this
year will only make me more confident."
The new season will, in effect, get underway at Suzuka tomorrow with the
teams allowed an extra two day test session because Bridgestone will be
sole tyre suppliers next year following Goodyear's withdrawal.
Hakkinen's reward for his victory is to sit out the test with McLaren
team-mate David Coulthard, who finished third in the Championship, left
to undertake the onerous extra duties at the end of a hard season.
Instead, Hakkinen will be given a hero's welcome at the team's Woking
headquarters where a celebratory party is being held tomorrow before he
begins a three week promotional tour.
But Hakkinen is determined there will be no long winter layoff for him
knowing all his rivals-especially Schumacher-will be out to topple him
from the throne.
"I know I will be the man to beat next year," he added after his
victory in the dawn showdown with his German challenger giving him a
first driver's title by a 14 point margin.
"It is going to be very tough defending the title but I intend working
really hard to make sure I am ready for next year and I know that the
team will be doing the same."
Schumacher was left to drown his sorrows long into the night at the
traditional end of season get together after Ferrari's hopes of
reclaiming their past glories were dashed once again.
The 29-year-old's bid evaporated once his engine stalled and he was
forced to start the race from last place while a tyre blow-out
eventually ended his season.
"What's happened this year only makes me more determined for next,"
said Schumacher, whose last driver's title came in 1995. "But we did
not lose the Championship in Suzuka, we lost it at the start of the
season.
"Everybody will be on the same tyres in 1999 so the problems we had
there in the first few races this year should not be a factor. That
shouldn't happen again.
"We have to make sure we work throughout the winter so that when we
get to the first race in Australia we will already be competitive."
Ferrari have celebrated several notable anniversaries in the last
couple of seasons, but next year there will be one that motorsport's
most famous team will want to update as soon as possible.
It will be the 20th year since South African Jody Scheckter galloped
to the driver's crown for the marque of the Prancing Horse.
Technical director Ross Brawn, who helped guide Schumacher to his
two titles with Benetton, said before the start of this season there
could be no excuses if they failed this time.
But after seeing five weeks of multi-million pound expenditure and
thousands of man hours invested wrecked by a simple fault, Brawn was
left to issue fighting talk ahead of next season which gets underway
in Melbourne next March 7.
"This is just part of the cycle," he said. "We have got the same
drivers and the same situation. It is a stable one and we will come
back stronger from this next year.
Coulthard will also be able to reflect on his campaign and what he
has got to do next year as he laps Suzuka with monotonous regularity
in the next couple of days.
The Scot said: "I am delighted that Mika won the title and that
McLaren won the constructors championship. I certainly believe I did
a lot to help both."
"But I don't think just one victory is a true reflection of how I
performed this season or my capabilities, but I intend working even
harder to challenge strongly for the title next year."
auto-moto.397djlucky,
Ajde neka mi neko objasni sta su mehanicari ustvari stavljali u
bolide da bi iz rashladili (ne razumem se puno)
Drug mi je rekao da su stavljali suvi led ali zar to nije ono sto
se koristi u spotovima i tako tim stvarima?
Pozdrav!`
auto-moto.398sane,
> Drug mi je rekao da su stavljali suvi led ali zar to nije ono sto
> se koristi u spotovima i tako tim stvarima?
Stavljan je suvi led.. Ne lazhe tvoj drug.. Koliko se ja secjam,
suvi led je CO2.. Ako se naravno ja dobro secjam.. Ako greshim ispravite me..
auto-moto.399mire,
Kalendar takmicenja na kruznim stazama, PJ u Autűomobilizmu.
30.05 Kraljevo
13.06 Kragujevac
27.06 Banja Luka
22.08 Kraljevo
29.08 Kraljevo
12.09 Beograd (Kalemegdan) !!!
29.09 Novi Sad
10.10 Kovin (aerodrom)
Prvo sto se da primetiti jeste da nema Usca, sto je, blago
receno, idiotski. Mozes misliti, tri Kraljeva, a ni jednom Usce, to
stvarno nije u redu. Istina, trka na Kalemegdanu je uslovljena
asvaltiranjem ulica, sto bi trebala da sredi gradska vlada. Ako se
to ne uradi, onda ce se voziti Usce. Inace, trka na Kalemegdanu se
odrzava povodom 60 godina te staze. Na njoj bi trebalo da ucestvuju
i 2 formule 1 iz 1939. To su 2 Auto Uniona. Veoma mnogo me zanima da
li su brzi od Alfe 155ST. Ja se kladim na njih. ;))
Za Beogradjane jos i informacija da ce se 25. aprila voziti
prvi zemunski reli. Samo me zanima koja ce mu biti ruta. Ako neko
zna, neka javi.
auto-moto.400mire,
Izgleda da ce Carlos Sainz da prcne Tommija ovih dana u Svedskoj.
Ako uspe, bice prvi neskandinavac koji je pobedio na tom reliju.
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auto-moto.402vpoznanovic,
Australian Grand Prix 1999
from Melbourne, Australia
5th March 1999 - 7th March 1999
Friday, March 5th
1st Free Practice (01:00 - 02:00 CET)
2nd Free Practice (03:00 - 04:00 CET)
3rd Free Practice (23:00 - 23:45 CET)
Saturday, March 6th
4th Free Practice (00:15 - 01:00 CET)
Qualifying (03:00 - 04:00 CET)
Warm-up (23:30 - 00:00 CET)
Sunday, March 7th
Race (04:00 - 06:00 CET) (58 laps)
auto-moto.403vpoznanovic,
F1: Australian GP Friday free practice
No. Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.971
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.985 0.014 0.014
3. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford 1:32.947 0.962 0.976
4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:33.029 0.082 1.058
5. Johnny Herbert GB Stewart-Ford 1:33.166 0.137 1.195
6. Damon Hill GB Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:33.420 0.254 1.449
7. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:33.576 0.156 1.605
8. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot 1:33.870 0.294 1.899
9. Alessandro Zanardi I Williams-Supertec 1:33.951 0.081 1.980
10. Ralf Schumacher D Williams-Supertec 1:33.957 0.006 1.986
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Supertec 1:34.046 0.089 2.075
12. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Supertec 1:34.135 0.089 2.164
13. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas 1:34.541 0.406 2.570
14. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:34.595 0.054 2.624
15. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot 1:34.693 0.098 2.722
16. Jacques Villeneuve CDN BAR-Supertec 1:34.695 0.002 2.724
17. Pedro Diniz BR Sauber-Petronas 1:35.253 0.558 3.282
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Arrows 1:35.699 0.446 3.728
19. Pedro de la Rosa E Arrows 1:35.756 0.057 3.785
20. Marc Gene E Minardi-Ford 1:36.481 0.725 4.510
21. Luca Badoer I Minardi-Ford 1:37.958 1.477 5.987
22. Ricardo Zonta BR BAR-Supertec 1:38.078 0.120 6.107
107% of fastest time: 1:38.409
auto-moto.404vpoznanovic,
F1: Australian GP Saturday free practice
No. Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.324
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.969 0.645 0.645
3. Johnny Herbert GB Stewart-Ford 1:32.569 1.600 2.245
4. Damon Hill GB Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:32.661 0.092 2.337
5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN BAR-Supertec 1:32.717 0.056 2.393
6. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:32.722 0.005 2.398
7. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford 1:32.828 0.106 2.504
8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:32.876 0.048 2.552
9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Supertec 1:32.975 0.099 2.651
10. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:32.994 0.019 2.670
11. Pedro Diniz BR Sauber-Petronas 1:32.999 0.005 2.675
12. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Supertec 1:33.110 0.111 2.786
13. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot 1:33.252 0.142 2.928
14. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas 1:33.305 0.053 2.981
15. Ralf Schumacher D Williams-Supertec 1:33.323 0.018 2.999
16. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot 1:34.129 0.806 3.805
17. Pedro de la Rosa E Arrows 1:34.194 0.065 3.870
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Arrows 1:34.386 0.192 4.062
19. Alessandro Zanardi I Williams-Supertec 1:35.444 1.058 5.120
20. Luca Badoer I Minardi-Ford 1:35.839 0.395 5.515
107% of fastest time: 1:36.647
21. Marc Gene E Minardi-Ford 1:36.848 1.009 6.524
22. Ricardo Zonta BR BAR-Supertec 1:48.227 11.379 17.903
auto-moto.405vpoznanovic,
F1: Australian GP Saturday qualifying
No. Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.462
2. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.946 0.484 0.484
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:31.781 0.835 1.319
4. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford 1:32.148 0.367 1.686
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:32.276 0.128 1.814
6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:32.289 0.013 1.827
7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Supertec 1:32.540 0.251 2.078
8. Ralf Schumacher D Williams-Supertec 1:32.691 0.151 2.229
9. Damon Hill GB Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:32.695 0.004 2.233
10. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Supertec 1:32.789 0.094 2.327
11. Jacques Villeneuve CDN BAR-Supertec 1:32.888 0.099 2.426
12. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot 1:32.971 0.083 2.509
13. Johnny Herbert GB Stewart-Ford 1:32.991 0.020 2.529
14. Pedro Diniz BR Sauber-Petronas 1:33.374 0.383 2.912
15. Alessandro Zanardi I Williams-Supertec 1:33.549 0.175 3.087
16. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas 1:33.910 0.361 3.448
17. Toranosuke Takagi J Arrows 1:34.182 0.272 3.720
18. Pedro de la Rosa E Arrows 1:34.244 0.062 3.782
19. Ricardo Zonta BR BAR-Supertec 1:34.412 0.168 3.950
20. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot 1:35.068 0.656 4.606
21. Luca Badoer I Minardi-Ford 1:35.316 0.248 4.854
107% of fastest time: 1:36.794
22. Marc Gene E Minardi-Ford 1:37.013 1.697 6.551
auto-moto.406vpoznanovic,
F1: Australian GP Sunday warm-up
No. Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:32.560
2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:32.670 0.110 0.110
3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:33.638 0.968 1.078
4. Pedro Diniz BR Sauber-Petronas 1:34.460 0.822 1.900
5. Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot 1:34.518 0.058 1.958
6. Alessandro Zanardi I Williams-Supertec 1:34.556 0.038 1.996
7. Johnny Herbert GB Stewart-Ford 1:34.707 0.151 2.147
8. Ralf Schumacher D Williams-Supertec 1:34.747 0.040 2.187
9. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot 1:34.784 0.037 2.224
10. Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas 1:34.805 0.021 2.245
11. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Supertec 1:34.973 0.168 2.413
12. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Supertec 1:35.013 0.040 2.453
13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford 1:35.046 0.033 2.486
14. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Jordan-Mugen Honda 1:35.085 0.039 2.525
15. Pedro de la Rosa E Arrows 1:35.135 0.050 2.575
16. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:35.241 0.106 2.681
17. Ricardo Zonta BR BAR-Supertec 1:35.294 0.053 2.734
18. Toranosuke Takagi J Arrows 1:35.568 0.274 3.008
19. Jacques Villeneuve CDN BAR-Supertec 1:35.676 0.108 3.116
20. Luca Badoer I Minardi-Ford 1:37.289 1.613 4.729
21. Marc Gene E Minardi-Ford 1:38.471 1.182 5.911
22. Damon Hill GB Jordan-Mugen Honda 16:57.718
auto-moto.407vpoznanovic,
F1: Australian GP results
Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:35:01.659
2. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Jordan-Mugen Honda +1.026
3. Ralf Schumacher D Williams-Supertec +7.012
4. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Supertec +33.418
5. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford +54.697
6. Pedro de la Rosa E Arrows +1:24.316
7. Toranosuke Takagi J Arrows +1:26.288
8. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari -1 lap
DNF Ricardo Zonta BR BAR-Supertec on lap 49
DNF Luca Badoer I Minardi-Ford on lap 43
DNF Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Supertec on lap 29
DNF Pedro Diniz BR Sauber-Petronas on lap 28
DNF Marc Gene E Minardi-Ford on lap 26
DNF Jarno Trulli I Prost-Peugeot on lap 26
DNF Olivier Panis F Prost-Peugeot on lap 24
DNF Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes on lap 22
DNF Alessandro Zanardi I Williams-Supertec on lap 21
DNF David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes on lap 14
DNF Jacques Villeneuve CDN BAR-Supertec on lap 14
DNF Damon Hill GB Jordan-Mugen Honda on lap 1
DNF Jean Alesi F Sauber-Petronas on lap 1
DNF Johnny Herbert GB Stewart-Ford on lap 1
auto-moto.408vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Australian GP
Drivers' championship:
Pos Driver Nat Constructor/Tyre Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 10
2. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Jordan-Mugen Honda 6
3. Ralf Schumacher D Williams-Supertec 4
4. Giancarlo Fisichella I Benetton-Supertec 3
5. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford 2
6. Pedro de la Rosa E Arrows 1
Constructors' championship:
Pos Constructor Nat Points
-------------------------------------------
1. Ferrari I 10
2. Jordan-Mugen Honda GB 6
3. Williams-Supertec GB 4
4. Benetton-Supertec I 3
5. Stewart-Ford GB 2
6. Arrows GB 1
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