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email.405 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: Zlatibor.Vujic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Zlatibor Vujic) Subject: Re: Poducavanje !!! Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:19:00 Onomad Bosko Radivojevic napisa Allu, u vezi nacete teme < poducavanje !!! >, pa da se ... :-#)) BR> : PITANJE: Kako stvoriti mogucnost da se nesto od toga vidi ? BR> u TwinSock (koji je minimizovan), onda uz malo srece dobijes opet FON, BR> ponovis postupak ... BR> Jel dovoljno jasno!? :) BR> Naravno moze i jednostavnije, nadjes nekog sa ETF/FON-a ko ima volje BR> da ti isto pokaze... Dovoljno ! KAd zapnem i ako zapnem pitacu.No shame. Evo jos jednog dokaza da se na ovim stranama moze i bez pluvanja.Hvala ti. Pozdrav ps. Kako to stoji za pokazivanje negde na ETF/FON_u.I gde ? Kao ja slucajno naiso ;) Ima li jos takvih ljudi ? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] * Origin: Pingvin BBS, Beograd == 606-928 & 674-262 == SETNet: (38:103/140)

email.404 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: Zlatibor.Vujic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Zlatibor Vujic) Subject: Re: Mailing Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:19:00 Onomad Predrag Supurovic napisa Subotic Branislavu, u vezi nacete teme < mailing >, pa da se ... :-#)) PS> Subotic Branislav said: PS> /* >-> A bre od kada je vama se Setnet-a dozvoljen mail u svet??? Ipak neizdrzah ! A bre odakle je tebi dozvoljeno da se korisnicima sa SetNet_a obracas sa BRE. Jesi` ti onog casa kad si napisao poruku, korisnike jedne mreze svrstao u poluljude, a one druge u mozda neku visu klasu. Ned`o Bog da nam izlazak u svet zavisi od takvih kao sto si ti. Dozvolio sam sebi neobican luksuz veceras.Koristim iste jezicke termine kao i ti, sto mi nikako nije obicaj. pozdrav od Zlatibora, <Sailor@SetNet.Co.Yu> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] * Origin: Pingvin BBS, Beograd == 606-928 & 674-262 == SETNet: (38:103/140)

email.410 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: al@setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Jevic) Subject: Mailing Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:02:00 -= Vojislav Mihailovic za All (11-13-95 22:41) =- VM> za protokol. Izaberem ASCII - ne da (kaze da je fajl binaran). Izaberem VM> Zmodem. Ponovo me pita za ime fajla (trazi da ukucam ceo path). Ja to VM> unesem. I posle toga napise 'Upload aborted'. Da li je neko ovo uspeo? VM> Ako ne moze, ostaje mi samo da seckam uuencode-om poruku na parcice i VM> svaki posebno da UL-ujem opcijom U.... veoma smarajuce... :( Verovatno koristis Externi Zmodem, ustvari ni ne postji Interni u PCB-u. Kao protokol u lokalu izaberi ili X-Modem, ili Y-Modem, oni sredjuju lokallne Upload-e. Stvar provereno radi. ... debeli@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu _\|/_ sysop@av-manta.bc.co.yu _\|/_ al@setnet. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] * Origin: AV Manta, Beograd - Mail Server - SETNet (38:103/121)

email.409 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: dcolak@setnet.co.yu (Damir Colak) Subject: Mailing Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:45:18 VM>s tim da se razdeli na vise delova ako je predugacko. E, to preko modema VM>nisam probao, ali iz lokala nece da radi. Kad se zada opcija SA (Send VM>Attach) program pita za ime fajla. Ja unesem. Onda pita za protokol. VM>Izaberem ASCII - ne da (kaze da je fajl binaran). Izaberem Zmodem. Ponovo VM>me pita za ime fajla (trazi da ukucam ceo path). Ja to unesem. I posle toga VM>napise 'Upload aborted'. Da li je neko ovo uspeo? Ako ne moze, ostaje mi Odaberi X-Modem. Mozda pomogne. Sledge DAMMIR! * Origin: Sledge HAMMER! BBS 011/163-452 22:00-07:00 (38:103/128)

email.407 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic) Subject: MAILING Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:41:03 -=> U poruci za All, NEMESIS kaze <=- NE> From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) NE> Newsgroups: yu.net.email NE> Organization: BUSY CONNECTION , STYX.BC.CO.YU , STYX 011\444-9522 NE> Izvinte sto upadam .. mozda vac i zakasnelo ... NE> Ali ja sam imao isti problem na PCB 15.21 i njeggovim UUXFER NE> pa sam dodao G77 sto mu znaci .. 7 PROZORA i 1024 Bayta NE> u upustvu pise da moze i 78 (2048) i 79 (4096) ali .. ko zna ... Povodom ovoga... Da li je neko uspeo da natera PCB 15.21 da u Internet konferenciji posalje IZ LOKALA fajl uz poruku. U uputstvu pise da ako se uz poruku posalje fajl, on se automatski uuencoduje i pridoda na kraj poruke, s tim da se razdeli na vise delova ako je predugacko. E, to preko modema nisam probao, ali iz lokala nece da radi. Kad se zada opcija SA (Send Attach) program pita za ime fajla. Ja unesem. Onda pita za protokol. Izaberem ASCII - ne da (kaze da je fajl binaran). Izaberem Zmodem. Ponovo me pita za ime fajla (trazi da ukucam ceo path). Ja to unesem. I posle toga napise 'Upload aborted'. Da li je neko ovo uspeo? Ako ne moze, ostaje mi samo da seckam uuencode-om poruku na parcice i svaki posebno da UL-ujem opcijom U.... veoma smarajuce... :( * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

email.406 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic) Subject: mailing Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:29:02 ** Originally from: Sasa Sekulic ** Originally to: Slobodan Popovic SS> Stvar je u stvari do nekih drugih - imam informaciju (jes' da ce sad SS> da mi zabrane login na izvjesni racunar, ali sta mogu, moram da SS> prolajem ;) da su na YUInternetu imali mogucnost 4 puta jeftinijeg SS> Internet provajdera, koji nije prihvacen iz *nepoznatih* razloga. Ma ljudi sa YU-Interneta su OK samo po sebi, ali je organizacija malo cudna. No nista, nama obicnim smrtnicima ostaje da cekamo i nadamo se najboljem. :) SS> Inace, za nasu drzavu je 100.000DM prilicno mnogo, jer da nije, mi bi SS> imali daleko vise Interneta nego sto ga imamo (telefonske linije na SS> fon-u i rcub-u, npr.) Da, ali slazem se sa Damirom da nije problem samo u tih 100 000, nego tu postoje i neciji umovi koji se tome protive iz ko zna kojih razloga. Ni ne pokusavam da ih shvatim... :) * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

email.408 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic) Subject: YU-Internet hosts list -- ANNOUNCE Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:41:04 -=> U poruci za All, Miroslav Hristodulo kaze <=- MH> From: malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Miroslav Hristodulo) MH> Newsgroups: yu.net, yu.net.email, yu.comm.yucca, yu.os.unix MH> Organization: Fakultet Organizacionih Nauka, Beograd MH> YU-Internet hosts list je periodicni spisak racunara na .yu MH> domenu Interneta, a dostupan je na sledece nacine: MH> MH> MH> Listu uredjuje Miroslav Hristodulo pod pokroviteljstvom MH> YUCCA -- Jugoslovenskog udruzenja za racunarske komunikacije. MH> MH> -- MH> MH> Nova lista za septembar, oktobar i novembar (tromesecna MH> nazalost -- prevelika zauzetost, :-( ) sadrzi sledece i MH> novitete: MH> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu Hoce li se _KONACNO_ na toj listi naci setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? vojam@setnet.co.yu vojam@sk.co.yu * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

email.411 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Miroslav Hristodulo) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts list -- ANNOUNCE Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:16:48 GMT vojam@setnet.co.yu : >> -=> U poruci za All, Miroslav Hristodulo kaze <=- >> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu >> MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu >> MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu >> MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu >> MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu >> MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu >> MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu >> Hoce li se _KONACNO_ na toj listi naci setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? Hoce. I to pre par meseci... HINT: pogledati co.yu deo liste i videce se i sk.co.yu i setnet.co.yu... -- malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu ( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )

email.412 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: zdule@herkules.co.yu (Dusan Mihajlovic) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts list -- ANNOUNCE Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:24:18 GMT vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic) writes: > Hoce li se _KONACNO_ na toj listi naci setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? Stvarno ste vi sa setnet-a malo blesavi. Pa setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu su u listi bar 6 meseci ako ne i duze. Jedan hint za tebe procitaj listu pre nego sto reagujes. ZDule...

email.413 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) Subject: Re: razmena sa inostranstvom Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 02:44:34 GMT Balsa Stipcevic (balsa@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu) reche: /* > ne stizu vazni mailovi koji su poslati jos u petak i subotu. Pritom, /* > uredno :) dobijam mail od juce, npr. Izgleda da je deo poste ipak /* > ispario? Mozda bi administratori mogli da daju info iz prve ruke? E da administratori... Meni recimo fali mail poslet pre 10 dana iz Italije... Veceras je oko ponoci ponvo poslat al je sada sve stiglo posle nekih 2 sata... Pozdrav, Bane ============================================================================= Branislav Subotic * Belgrade Serbia YUGOSLAVIA * bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu ============================================================================= I am correct, the rest of you are wrong!

email.414 postmast, 16 Nov 95

From: vecxo@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dragan D. Vecerina) Subject: Re: Mailing Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:18:34 GMT Zlatibor Vujic (Zlatibor.Vujic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu) wrote: : Dozvolio sam sebi neobican luksuz veceras.Koristim iste jezicke : termine kao i ti, sto mi nikako nije obicaj. Bljak.....Oces i ovaj termin da ponovis?? ili ti to stvarno nije obicaj? Dragan D. Vecerina E-mail adresa: vecxo@etf.bg.ac.yu

email.415 banga, 16 Nov 95 -> #393, postmast

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email.418 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: zoran.doroslovac@panon.ns.ac.yu (Zoran Doroslovac) Subject: FAQ 2/5 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:05:00 GMT >>> Continued from previous message Notes: 1. Usually File Extension Chart: Compression/Creation Extension MS-DOS Amiga Mac Unix VMS CMS Generic(5) ========= ====== ===== ==== ===== ====== ====== ======== .arc PKARC Arc ??? arc ??? ARCUTIL ??? .arj ARJ --- --- --- --- --- --- .cpt --- --- (1) --- ??? --- --- .lha/lzh LHArc Lha MacLha lha ??? ARCUTIL? LhArc .gz GZIP GZIP ??? gzip ??? --- gzip .hqx --- --- Binhex(4) --- --- --- --- .sh ------------------------shar-- ??? ??? ??? .sit --- --- (2)(4) --- ??? --- --- .tar tar GNU-Tar ??? tar tar? --- GNU-Tar .uue ---------------------uuencode--------- ARCUTIL uuencode .z(3) GZIP GZIP ??? gzip ??? --- gzip .Z(3) ---compress-- MacCompress ---compress---- --- compress .zip PKZIP InfoZIP ZIP infozip ZIP ??? InfoZip .zoo Zoo Zoo ??? zoo Zoo --- Zoo 1. Compact Pro 2. StuffIt! 3. Due to some systems case-insensitivity, these extensions get mixed around a lot! 4. There are SEVERAL versions that produce very different versions/types of archives. 5. Generic category shows a general version that usually has source available for porting, as necessary. File Extension Chart: Expansion/Dearchiving Extension MS-DOS Amiga Mac UNIX VMS CMS Generic(5) ========= ====== ===== ==== ===== ====== ====== ======== .arc PKXARC pkax Arc arc ??? ARCUTIL Arc .arj ARJ UnARJ MacUnArj unarj ??? --- UnARJ .cpt ??? MacTools (1) MacTools ??? --- MacTools .gz GZIP GZIP ??? GZIP ??? --- GZIP .hqx ??? MacTools Binhex MacTools ??? --- MacTools .lha/lzh LHARC Lha MacLha lha ??? ARCUTIL? LhArc .sh --- csh ??? shar ??? --- --- .sit UNSIT MacTools (2) MacTools ??? --- MacTools .tar tar GNU-Tar ??? tar tar? --- GNU-Tar .uue(4) ---------------------uudecode--------- ARCUTIL uudecode .z(3) GZIP GZIP ??? gzip ??? --- gzip .Z(3)(4) -uncompress-- MacCompress --uncompress------ --- uncompress .zoo Zoo Zoo ??? zoo Zoo --- Zoo .zip PKUNZIP UNZIP UNZIP UNzip UNZIP ??? UNZip 1. Compact Pro 2. StuffIt! -- however, there are SEVERAL versions that produce very different versions/types of archives. 3. Due to some systems case-insensitivity, these extensions get mixed around a lot! 4. For most Unix and Amiga systems, these programs are just renamed versions of their creation counterpart (ie, compress is renamed to uncompress). 5. Generic category shows a general version that usually has source available for porting, as necessary. --- DLG Pro v1.7/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: FREQ the FAQ as FIDOINET from (1:300/311.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MODERATOR Number: 9 To: ALL Date: 24/08/95 20:00 Subj: (3/5) Weekly INTERNET FAQ Posting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No _____________________________________________________________ 5. How can I become an Internet site? Depends on how 'full board' you want to go. Most 'public' systems these days are using what is called UUCP or UNIX to UNIX Copy. [Sidenote: cp is the copy command in UNIX]. This allows your system to call up another UUCP system and transfer mail, Usenet news, and a few other things like Dillon's UUCP's BMS protocol. UUCP programs are wide in abundance. Since these programs are constantly changing and growing, it is recommended that you contact someone familar with your platform for available options. The big trick with most of these programs is if you run a public access BBS, especially for MS-DOS and Mac people, is finding an easy way for your users to utilize your new gained services! So, you will want to be sure to find some type of converter program, or a way to read the news from within your BBS program's parameters. Contact your BBS support team to see what is available, if anything is at all. Also, post a message in your support echos. If you still can't find an answer, post on the INTERNET echo. For an actual feed, if you don't already have one, see the next question. However, if you want to do a FULL BLOWN, 24-hour direct connect Internet site, the first thing that is recommend is taking a look at your hardware. Most Internet sites run UNIX as their host software... but there are a few exceptions. The first thing to consider is, can your system handle the load of 10 to maybe hundreds of users at one time? Second, it is, in general, VERY expensive to run a decent Internet site. My own personal recommendation is to consult a local Internet guru for his or her opinion on doing such. If you don't have such a person handy, you can contact the headquarters for the National Science Foundation by sending mail to info-server@nnsc.nsf.net with the following text as the message: request: nsfnet topic: referral-list reqeust: end This will give you a list of high-speed network providers. Also, see the next question for more clues... _____________________________________________________________ 6. Where can I get direct access to Internet, if I'm not at a University or a business that has an Internet connect? My own personal advice is to ask around locally, especially at big business and universities that might possibly have one. Most Internet sites have policies regarding 'public use'. If you are dealing with Universities, ask around A LOT. Just be sure not to make a nuisance of yourself. Some University people avoided the questions simply because word got around that so-and-so was looking for a feed. Ask to see the technical support crew/person for any department that has to do with science, technology, engineering, etc. They are most likely to have a feed available. [Surprises can happen--For example, one person connects to the Molecular Science department... who would have guessed?] >>> Continued to next message --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Panon, olealealeale, napred rumeni ostali su drveni!

email.423 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts lis Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 19:47:17 CET On 01-16-19 ASLI DJURICIN wrote to ALL... ----------------------------------------- AD> >> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu AD> >> MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu AD> >> MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu AD> >> MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu AD> >> MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu AD> >> MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu AD> >> MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu Ispod ovoga u orihginalnoj poruci stoji: (i jos mnogo, mnogo toga...) Ovo je samo deo, nasumice odabranih noviteta. AD> Nece mi biti tesko da dodjem u Beograd, pa da te zablesavim! Gde ti tu AD> vidis setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? A gde ti vidis da je to lista ??? Ma nema... vi sa SetNet-a bi se samo sa nekim razracunavali! To sto je kompletna lista objavljena u yu.net, gde joj je i mesto i u njoj lepo pise: .------------------------. | YU-Internet hosts list | :------------------------: | Sep/Oct/Nov 1995 | ,''', | Issue: 20 Volume: 2 | ->YUCCA<- :------------------------: ',,,' | by Miroslav Hristodulo | | <miroslav@yucca.co.yu> | `------------------------' YU-Internet ----------- "Komercijalna" mreza -------------------- co.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu * 95110200 ---------------------------------------------------- b92.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.b92.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu bc.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.bc.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + bolex.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.bolex.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + caa.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.caa.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu durlan.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu - *.durlan.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu - emc.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.emc.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + gama.co.yu (m) uxg.gama.co.yu + - *.gama.co.yu (m) uxg.gama.co.yu + - hemofarm.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu - herkules.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.herkules.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu hobbiton.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.hobbiton.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu imtel.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.imtel.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu lola-c.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.lola-c.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + opti.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + - *.opti.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + - otc.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.otc.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + pingvin.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.pingvin.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + present.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + *.present.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + rns.nis.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu saga.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.saga.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu sci-tech.tvb.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu setnet.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu <--- citaj(te)! *.setnet.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu <--- citaj(te)! sezam.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu sk.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu <--- citaj(te)! vreme.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu yucca.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu *.yucca.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu + zed.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu lola-c.co.yu. (d) pcentar.lola-c.co.yu ? mr-net.co.yu. (d) mrsys1.mr-net.co.yu pionir.co.yu. (d) griksi.pionir.co.yu co.yu. (s) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu ... nema veze! Lista je objavljena jos 12-og o.m. ko je hteo da cita - procitao je ko nije - hteo bi da se razracunava! AD> Hint: Vodi racuna o izrazavanju! "Zablesavio" bi coveka na pravdi Boga! Vodi racuna zasto pretis! --- * OFFLINE 1.56 * Seks je nastao kada je Adama zabolela ruka !

email.422 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: asli.djuricin@panon.ns.ac.yu (Asli Djuricin) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts lis Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:16:00 GMT DM>> Hoce li se _KONACNO_ na toj listi naci setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? DM> Stvarno ste vi sa setnet-a malo blesavi. Pa setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu su DM>u listi bar 6 meseci ako ne i duze. Jedan hint za tebe procitaj listu pre DM>nego sto reagujes. >> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu >> MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu >> MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu >> MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu >> MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu >> MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu >> MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu Nece mi biti tesko da dodjem u Beograd, pa da te zablesavim! Gde ti tu vidis setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? Hint: Vodi racuna o izrazavanju! ¸> PREROGATIVE, n. A sovereign's right to do wrong. * ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.3 #04 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu

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From: zoran.doroslovac@panon.ns.ac.yu (Zoran Doroslovac) Subject: FAQ 5/5 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:05:00 GMT >>> Continued from previous message Most of the documents referenced throughout the text are available for FREQ and downloading. The most recent version of this file is available as magic name FIDOINET in a MS-DOS text format (lines end with carriage returns and line feeds). This text is posted on a (currently) weekly basis via a cronevent on the INTERNET echo on Fidonet. If you are interested in obtaining a copy of the rules of the echo, these are also available as FIDOINET.RLZ. As of March '95, the rules will also be in the ECHOLxxx series of files transmitted across the ECHOLIST filebone. ________________________________________________________________ Compiled by Allen Wittenauer 1:300/311.0, Moderator. --- DLG Pro v1.7/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: FREQ the FAQ as FIDOINET from (1:300/311.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Panon, olealealeale, napred rumeni ostali su drveni!

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From: zoran.doroslovac@panon.ns.ac.yu (Zoran Doroslovac) Subject: FAQ 4/5 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:05:00 GMT >>> Continued from previous message Basically, all you need to do is a bit of paperwork and your system can be registered in the .us and/or the .uucp "pseudo"-domain. For information on getting a .us address, contact us-domain@isi.edu. For getting into the UUCP pseudo-domain, contact uucp-map-request@uunet.uu.net. My recommendation is getting registered in the .us domain. However, I should also mention that there is another choice _IF_ you would like to be a gateway site for FidonetInternet mail, in which case you would get a fidonet.org address. For more info, FREQ a copy of GATEAPPL from 1:1/31. --- DLG Pro v1.7/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: FREQ the FAQ as FIDOINET from (1:300/311.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MODERATOR Number: 11 To: ALL Date: 24/08/95 20:00 Subj: (5/5) Weekly INTERNET FAQ Posting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No _____________________________________________________________ 13. What is the World Wide Web? What are Mosaic, Lynx, and Netscape? The World Wide Web (AKA WWW or W3) is a collection of systems mainly running a protocol known as HTTP. This protocol uses a series of files in HTML (HyperText Markup Language) to provide a fully graphic environment of moving around on the 'net. In concept, it is very similar to gopher: its menu driven, requires the use of a client, and is very flexible for the end systems needs. The biggest difference is that WWW and its series of clients (with one exception) promote the use of high-end graphics capabilities. As an added bonus, most WWW clients also contain built-in versions of gopher, ftp, and several other common Internet protocols. NCSA Mosaic is probably the most popular of several graphic implementations of WWW clients. Versions for several operating systems are available from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. A group of the original NCSA programmers left NCSA and formed Netscape Corporation who have a program available called Netscape (ftp'able from ftp.mcom.com). Netscape is basically a greatly enhanced version of Mosaic available in commercial and freeware editions. Lynx deserves a mention here. Lynx is a UNIX- and MS-DOS-based WWW client for text-based terminals. It bypasses the graphics to all for those users without a GUI-capable workstation to do just about anything that a Mosaic or Cello user would. Lynx is available on wuarchive.wustl.edu, as well as several other sites. For more info on the WWW as a whole, Web over to http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html or contact timbl@info.cern.ch. _____________________________________________________________ 14. How do I find e-mail addresses? Currently, there really isn't a standard way to find someone's Internet e-mail address quickly and easily. Currently two methods work the best, under my experience. The first one is netfind. Netfind is series of computers that use MX and other nameserver records along with two key pieces of information to find e-mail addresses. Those two pieces are usually a name of some kind and either a domain name or an institution. For example, 'schwartz boulder colorado university' will find netfind's author, Mike Schwartz. The current list of netfind servers are: + archie.au (AARNet, Melbourne, Australia) + bruno.cs.colorado.edu (University of Colorado, Boulder) + malloco.ing.puc.cl (Catholic University of Chile, Santiago) + mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (University of Minnesota, Minneapolis) + netfind.oc.com (OpenConnect System, Dallas, Texas) + redmont.cis.uab.edui (University of Alabama at Birmingham) + sun.uakom.cs (Slovak Academy of Sciences, Czech and Slovak Fed. Repub.) The other method is using a client/server package known as ph (server) and qi (client). ph was developed at the Univ. of Illinois to solve their own internal address problems. Now, ph is available at quite a few sites, and luckily for the netsurfer, have made a qi for their site available on several gopher servers. In fact, the Univ. of Minnesota has a fairly complete list on their gopher. _____________________________________________________________ 15. What is fsp? For this answer, we turn to Michael Dillon's post (slightly edited): FSP is a File Transfer Protocol similar to FTP, but different: + FSP doesn't require you to log in. + FSP can resume a partial transfer at any time + FSP can be used with simple commands like fls and fcp which are the equivalent of ls and cp (or fdir and fcopy if you prefer MS-DOS style). + FSP can run in the background without writing fancy shell scripts + FSP servers control the number of bytes per second being transferred so that they cannot be crashed by overloads. Of course, you cannot use FSP unless your sysadmin has installed it on your system. Maybe you should read the alt.comp.fsp newsgroup for a few days, and if you are still interested, tell your sysadmin where they can get the client programs to install. ________________________________________________________________ 16. What is LINUX? LINUX is a System V Release 4 UNIX that is available freely for a variety of platforms. For more information, there is a Frequently Asked Questions file just for it, available for FREQ from 1:3801/2 as "LINUX.ZIP". Also, check out the LINUX echo on Fidonet for even more information. _________________________________________________________________ Other Sources of Information FREELY AVAILABLE FILES USED FOR ANSWERS PRESENTED HERE OR ARE JUST REALLY GOOD. =) * Yanoff's Internet Resources List [FREQ: YANOFF.TXT] * Augsburg BBS List * Dillon's UUCP for the Amiga * Big Dummy's Guide to the Internet * Hitchhiker's Guide to the Internet * Zen and the Art of the Internet * Inter-Network Mail Guide [FREQ: INTERMAIL.TXT] * Crispin's ROADMAP Series [FREQ: ROADMAP] * rtfm.mit.edu's ftp site contains FAQ's and RFC's for everything. * Community Nets FAQ [FREQ: COMMNETS from 1:261/1134] (FREQ names are for 1:300/311.0 except where noted) _________________________________________________________________ Updates to this FAQ should go to: * Fidonet : Moderator @ 1:300/311.0 * AmigaNet: Moderator @ 40:302/10.0 * Internet: axw@apollo.sunquest.com * Modem : +01-520-747-4413 (ZyXEL U-1496E) >>> Continued to next message --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Panon, olealealeale, napred rumeni ostali su drveni!

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From: zoran.doroslovac@panon.ns.ac.yu (Zoran Doroslovac) Subject: FAQ 3/5 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:05:00 GMT >>> Continued from previous message If that leaves you nowhere, then it is time to really start hunting around. Usually people say "check out [fill in favorite commercial service here]", but that may not be the BEST solution for you. The best advice that one can give is to check out the PDIAL file. PDIAL stands for Public Dialup Internet Access List. You can get a copy of it by sending mail to kaminski@netcom.com, with a subject of 'send PDIAL'. You'll receive a rather lengthy file of sites that offer full or close to full Internet access for free or for pay. Also available is a listing similiar to PDIAL. You can get it by just sending a peice of mail to nixpub@digex.com. No need to fill in a subject or any body text. [Both of these files are available for FREQ from 1:300/311.0 as PDIAL.TXT and NIXPUB.TXT if you don't have Internet mail access or Fido netmail access.] ... and please, check these sources of information out __BEFORE__ you post on the INTERNET echo asking for a site. _____________________________________________________________ 7. Who is this Archie person? Archie is actually a program more than a person. Archie was designed to provide a quick and efficient method of looking for files from anonymous FTP sites. Archie is accessable via e-mail, telnet, or through a client program like xarchie or anarchie. There are several Archie servers to choose from all around the globe. To get you started, here is a short list: E-Mail Telnet -or- Client -------------------- --------------------- archie@sura.net archie.sura.net archie@rutgers.edu archie.rutgers.edu archie@internic.net archie.internic.net The recommended way of reaching an archie system is through a client. These programs can usually run in the background and free up the archie server for more users at one time. Clients are available for most popular systems. Check your favorite FTP sites for more information. --- DLG Pro v1.7/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: FREQ the FAQ as FIDOINET from (1:300/311.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MODERATOR Number: 10 To: ALL Date: 24/08/95 20:00 Subj: (4/5) Weekly INTERNET FAQ Posting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No _____________________________________________________________ 8. Gopher? They let wild animals on the Internet? Gopher is an interactive service that provides a full- screen, menu-driven system that allows you to view or search for various types of information with either the cursor keys or a mouse, depending on your system configuration. Most universities are now using Gopher as a way to provide a Campus Wide Information Systems or CWIS (pronounced c-wiz). For example, the University of Illinois provides access to the student phonebook, the Daily Illini newspaper, information about upgrades to hardware , and various other useful information. They even provide a simple FTP-type system for those that don't have access to FTP. If you have telnet access, you can try out gopher by telnetting to the following systems (login as gopher): + consultant.micro.umn.edu [University of Minnesota] + gopher.msu.edu [Michigan State University] + gopher.siu.edu [Southern Illinois University-Carbondale] Several clients are available for a variety of platforms. The best place to look is boombox.micro.umn.edu. If you can't find a gopher client for your particular hardware, here is a perfect chance to use Archie. :) _____________________________________________________________ 9. Veronica is Archie's girlfriend, right? Actually, in a strange sort of way, yes! Veronica is a way to search all of the known Gophers in the world for a text string. Access to Gopher is required to use it, however. If your local Gopher server doesn't have access to Veronica, the main veronica system is located at gopher.unr.edu. _____________________________________________________________ 10. How does an Internet e-mail address "work"? Think of it as a sorting process going backwards. Let's take my address as an example... ecereal@crispy.carb.il.us .us----> "It is in the USA, so cut out the rest of the world and .edu, .com, etc." .il----> "Ok, we are in Illinois. So, the rest of the states are cut out." .carb--> "Hmm. That must be Carbondale. That takes care of the rest of Illinois." .crispy> "Ahh! That's Mental Vortex BBS!" At some point in this chain, the name server (ie, the program that deciphers these things) will likely consult another machine for details -or- pass the information to that machine for handling in the case of e-mail. For most directly connected machines, this would normally happen after the .il.us part had been processed... but not necessarily. At this point, the e-mail would get sent to this machine to deal with. crispy would then look through its files to see if a user by the name of 'ecereal' exists. If crispy didn't find the user id the mail was sent to, the mail file would get returned back to the user who sent the e-mail. Otherwise, crispy would put the message in that user's mailbox. As you can see, it works very similiar to a postal address. The same type of information is there, but in a very different format.... ecereal PO Box Crispy Carb, IL US _____________________________________________________________ 11. Can I post on a Usenet newsgroup even if I don't have direct Usenet news access? Sure. Send your article to: [newsgroup]@cs.utexas.edu where [newsgroup] is the dashed newsgroup name. For example, comp.sys.amiga.advocacy would become comp-sys- amiga-advocacy@cs.utexas.edu. Some newsgroups are also available for subscription. Send mail to [newsgroup]- request@uunet.uu.net to request access to the newsgroup of your choice. Most of these are run by humans, not automatic processes (called daemons), so it just might be a while before you see something roll in. _____________________________________________________________ 12. I'm currently running a UUCP site, but it isn't registered in a domain. How do I register for mapping purposes? >>> Continued to next message --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Panon, olealealeale, napred rumeni ostali su drveni!

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From: zoran.doroslovac@panon.ns.ac.yu (Zoran Doroslovac) Subject: FAQ 1/5 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:05:00 GMT From: MODERATOR Number: 7 To: ALL Date: 24/08/95 20:00 Subj: (1/5) Weekly INTERNET FAQ Posting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No THE INTERNET ECHO FAQ [FIDOINET.FAQ] _[Last Updated Fri Mar 17 1995]_ _________________________________________________________________ DISCLAIMER Information provided does not necessarily reflect my employer, authors of referenced materials, or any commercial services mentioned. Opinions given are strictly my own and should be treated as such, unless mentioned otherwise. _________________________________________________________________ _TABLE OF CONTENTS_ 1. How do I send mail from Fidonet to Internet? 2. How do I send mail from Internet to Fidonet? 3. Do any online services have Internet mail addresses? What about other network gateways? 4. What does a file with _.ext_ extension mean? 5. How can I become an Internet site? 6. Where can I get direct access to Internet, if I'm not at a University or a business that has an Internet connect? 7. Who is this Archie person? 8. Gopher? They let wild animals on the Internet? 9. Veronica is Archie's girlfriend, right? 10. How does an Internet e-mail address "work"? 11. Can I post on a Usenet newsgroup even if I don't have direct Usenet news access? 12. I'm currently running a UUCP site, but it isn't registered in a domain. How do I register for mapping purposes? 13. What is the World Wide Web? What are Mosaic. Lynx, and Netscape? 14. How do I find e-mail addresses? 15. What is fsp? 16. What is LINUX? _________________________________________________________________ _QUESTIONS & ANSWERS_ _________________________________________________________________ 1. How do I send mail from Fidonet to Internet? 1. Locate the gateway site nearest you. [Talk to your sysop. If you are the sysop, contact your NC. Sites designated for gatewaying have a GUUCP flag in the respective nodelist entry.]. If there isn't one near you, use 1:1/31.0. 2. Send the mail formatted in this fashion: TO: UUCP -------Body of message below------------------------ To: [userid]@[sitename] ----- end of message ------------------------------- 1. You _MUST_ use _Netmail_ to do this. Posting this in the INTERNET echo does NOT work. If you need help on how to send Netmail, contact your sysop, as every system is different. 2. You might want to contact your sysop anyway, as some boards have direct Internet connections. Using Netmail for a system that has a connection will be several times slower. _____________________________________________________________ 2. How do I send Internet mail to Fidonet? Send the mail to [first].[last]@p[point].f[node].n[net].z[zone].fidonet.org 1. Some gateway sites use [first]_[last] as the user id. 2. The "p[point]." is _OPTIONAL_ if the point number is 0. For example, Allen Wittenauer 1:11/159.0 transmutes to Allen.Wittenauer@f159.n11.z1.fidonet.org (notice lack of the p[point].!) _____________________________________________________________ 3. Do any online services have Internet mail addresses? What about other network gateways? Here's a quick list: + America Online : [userid]@aol.com + Applelink : [userid]@applelink.apple.com + AT&T Mail : [userid]@attmail.att.com + BIX : [userid]@dcibix.das.net + BITNET : [userid]%[site].bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (2) + CompuServe : #####.####@compuserve.com (1) + Delphi : [userid]@delphi.com + GEnie : [userid]@genie.geis.com + MCI Mail : #######@mcimail.com + Prodigy : [userid]@prodigy.com (1) + WWIVnet : [usernum]-[nodenum]@wwiv.fred.com (For a more complete list, see Yanoff's Inter-mail guide) Notes: 1. These services cost extra for the users of these respective companies. 2. MOST Internet sites with smart mailers can do BITNET routing. --- DLG Pro v1.7/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: FREQ the FAQ as FIDOINET from (1:300/311.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MODERATOR Number: 8 To: ALL Date: 24/08/95 20:00 Subj: (2/5) Weekly INTERNET FAQ Posting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No _____________________________________________________________ 4. What does a file with _.ext_ extension mean? File Extension Chart: General Info Usual Extension "Home" System Binary? ========= ============= ========== .arc Yes .arj MS-DOS Yes .cpt Macintosh Yes .gz UNIX Yes .hqx Macintosh No .lha/lzh Amiga Yes .sh UNIX No (1) .sit Macintosh Yes .tar UNIX Yes (1) .uue No .Z UNIX Yes .z UNIX Yes .zoo Yes >>> Continued to next message --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Panon, olealealeale, napred rumeni ostali su drveni!

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From: miroslav.kisacanin@panon.ns.ac.yu (Miroslav Kisacanin) Subject: O konkursima Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:44:00 GMT Zorane, ovaj tekst sam prosledio u NET:HW i Elektro. Ako imas ideju slobodno prosledi i dalje. Na kraju je i tekst za "onaj" program. Njega nisam nigde stavljao pa ga prosledi gde mislis da ce da se cuje. Hvala ************************************************************************ Daje se na znanje: Za potrebe jednog buduceg uredjaja na cijem razvoju se radi, potrebno je razresiti par "problemcica". Ovo je preliminarni poziv na razmisljanje, u pripremi je i "pravilnik" o nagradjivanju (o tome nakon prvih komentara i zainteresovanosti auditorijuma - ne za nagrade vec za konkurs) Jedan od uredjaja je Cut Sheet Feader (cirilicna verzija :) ). Naime, uredjaj treba da uvlaci jedan po jedan formular velicine A5 ili manji. NE SME SE DOZVOLITI DA SE PROVUCE ILEGALAC, TJ. DVA ILI VISE PAPIRA. Pod konkurs je za POUZDAN nacin testiranja da li su prisutna dva ili vise papira. Papiri su unificirani (svi su isti), kvaliteta oko 50 - 70 g/m2 (malo tanje od kopir papira a deblje od pelira). Resenja moraju biti POUZDANA a ne JEFTINA. Varijante sa kompresorom, vakumom i slicnim "glomaznim" komponentama nisu prihvatljiva. Uredjaj mora biti mali, kompaktan, lep, pouzdan i jeftin (ovo je kao u onom vicu o idealnoj devojci: lepa, pametna, dugonoga, pliva, skija, tri strana jezika, nacitana, kuvarica, domacica, veliki miraz, nevina i dobro se j@#$e). Brzina uvlacenja je oko 2 do 3 papira u sekundi (mozda i nesto sporije). Sve ideje, komentare, zahteve, pitanja i ponude za protekciju kod raspodele nagrada na NET:HW, NET:Elektro ili MKISACAN@PANON.NS.AC.YU Pozdrav Kisa ************************************************************************ Daje se na znanje: Za potrebe jednog SW paketa - podsklopa buduceg uredjaja na cijem razvoju se radi, potrebno je razresiti par "problemcica". Ovo je preliminarni poziv na razmisljanje, u pripremi je i "pravilnik" o nagradjivanju (o tome nakon prvih komentara i zainteresovanosti strucnog auditorijuma). Zelja je da se postojeca procedura za prepoznavanje karaktera modernizuje: Na formularu se na tacno odredjenom mestu nalazi visecifreni broj. Cifre su iz alfabeta 0 - 9 i tacno su odredjenog oblika i velicine. Izgled cifara je proizvoljan (ako pomaze razresenju problema oblik se moze menjati). Fiksna je velicina i cinjenica da te iste cifre mora da moze da procita i covek (pismen). Ovo poslednje ne dozvoljava koriscenje bar koda. Podskup ovog resenja moze biti i citanje bar koda SKENIRANOG dokumenta (ne bar code reader). BTW bar kod nije praktican jer se gore pomenuti broj kreira u jednoj pred fazi i to na matricnom stampacu. U buducoj realizaciji ovo bi bila samo funkcija, ali za potrebe testiranja performansi neka bude stand alone program. Jezik nije bitana (Pascal, C, Basic, Visual ..., Srpski, ...). Performanse = verovatnoca greske/vreme za izvrsavanje. Ulazni podatak u pogram je ime fajla u kojem je bit mapa i orijentacione koordinate polja sa brojem (gornji levi cosak matrice, polja su na nivou bita - crno/belo, OKO 10 tackica po vertikali i isto toliko po horizontali za svaku cifru). Napomena: polozaj polja sa brojevima moze varirati od unete vrednosti za "izvesnu" vrednost (recimo 1.5 visine cifre =/-). Okolina polja sa brojevima je bela i to sa sirinom od barem jedne visine cifre. Programi u bilo kom programskom jeziku (izvrsavace se na DOS 6.x masinama, 486/66, 4 M) kao rezultat treba da da ocitani broj u bilo kom formatu (npr. ASCII). Nacelno su prihvatljiva i resenja "Recognita to moze iz komandne linije ovako". Bitno je da se moze pozivati iz drugog programa. PS. Preferiram originalni razvoj. Pozdrav Kisa --- ■ SPEED 2.00 [NR] ■

email.431 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: zdule@herkules.co.yu (Dusan Mihajlovic) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts lis Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 13:25:01 GMT asli.djuricin@panon.ns.ac.yu (Asli Djuricin) writes: > >> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu > >> MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu > >> MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu > >> MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu > >> MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu > >> MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu > >> MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu > > Nece mi biti tesko da dodjem u Beograd, pa da te zablesavim! Gde ti tu > vidis setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? > Hint: Vodi racuna o izrazavanju! Da li vi ljudi citate poruke uopste?!?? Ovo sto si kvotirao su NOVINE u listi i to je Malisha lepo napisao a u LISTI pisu svi podaci. ZDule... ps: mrzim jajare koji prete na daljinu ako hoces dodji Prvomajska 33/4 Zemun ako ne dodjes doci cu ja do tebe

email.433 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: bole@bolex.bolex.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic) Subject: Re: Poducavanje !!! Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:57:35 GMT Zlatibor Vujic (Zlatibor.Vujic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu) wrote: : Kako to stoji za pokazivanje negde na ETF/FON_u.I gde ? Kao ja : slucajno naiso ;) E ... Posto nisam ni na FONu ni na ETFu (ustvari nisam jos na fakultetu:) ne mogu nista vise da ti pomognem... Pozdrav!

email.432 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: bole@bolex.bolex.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic) Subject: Re: pogresan_email_? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:35:18 GMT SRLE@vila.bc.co.yu wrote: : Pazi ja samo poslao greskom na ?@setnte.co.yu i zamisli poruku mi je : vratio DEAMON iz Grcke i onda jos neko kaze da poruke sa setnet domain_om : ne mogu da idu na svjetski Internet nego samo na YUInternet. Mail koji posaljes na BILO sta prvo proveri (na fonu i ubbgu) da li ima gde da ide. On je pogledao setnte.co.yu, nije nigde to nasao i otiso je za pythiu (posto za pythiu ide sve sto nema gde da ide). Onda je pythia to videla i videla je ono .co.yu i poslala ga nazad na fon i tako se to vrti 3 puta (valjda?) i ona pythia odustane i vrati posaljiocu..

email.430 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: DESNA MARGINA Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 12:17:00 +0100 ---> Unapred hvala. Molba odbijena ... Zato sto meni licno to ne smeta ... A ostale ko ... BYE ! ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■ ═

email.429 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: srle@setnet.co.yu (Srdjan Kurtovic) Subject: net.internet?_jok_ja, Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:20:21 >> Vladislav Petrovic u poruci za All rece: VP> Znas kako, za onaj najnoviji UUDECODE-an SLIP/PPP for DOS, steta VP> sto se ona jedna, zadnja valjda bese, poruka negde od Slovenije do VP> nas izgubila! Radilo se o najnovijoj verziji! Evo odgovor sa SETNet-a :). Da je taj transfer bio najavljen vjerovatno bi prosao, ovako VELIKA STETA :(. Vjerovatno shvatas da je sve u SETNet_u na dobrovoljnoj bazi pa ne mogu da preuzimaju tolike megabajte :( ... nazalost. VP> Sada, zavisi, neko (kome treba) se raduje, neko - kome ne treba - VP> tuguje! Ne moze se svima ugoditi! Ja bi da tugujem, ali sad je kasno za bilo sta :) srle@vila.bc.co.yu * Origin: Vila co.BBS # Prijedor_RS # +381 79 11 301 # SETNet: (38:135/135.1)

email.427 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: ftp by mail Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:52:00 vladap to All about vl> Inace, o FTP bi mail - sve najlepse pod uslovom da onaj ko to hoce vl> i plati :-))) Sekundiram. To je odlicna ali vrlo skupa zanimacija. * Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)

email.426 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: Zlatibor.Vujic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Zlatibor Vujic) Subject: Ispravka+izvinjenje Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:26:00 Onomad Zlatibor Vujic napisa Predrag Supurovicu, u vezi nacete teme < Re: mailing >, pa da se ... :-#)) PS> Subotic Branislav said: PS> /* >-> A bre od kada je vama se Setnet-a dozvoljen mail u svet??? ZV> Ipak neizdrzah ! Gornja izjava sve objasnjava.Stvarno Branislav ume po nekad da iznervira citace poruka.Problem je sto mu se to desava sve cesce. Valjda sve prima, sto se kaze, k` srcu :) Predrage, znaci poruka se nije odnosila na tebe vec na Branislava pa sam to ispravio,nadam se. pozdrav od Zlatibora, <Sailor@SetNet.Co.Yu> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] * Origin: Pingvin BBS, Beograd == 606-928 & 674-262 == SETNet: (38:103/140)

email.425 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: alenin@setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Ninkovic) Subject: mailing Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:42:00 >: savrseno lepo to radi i stari i kilavi DOS. Manji je problem >nabaviti softver >: koji ce ti raditi posao pod DOS-om, nego prvo juriti >kompletne verzije Unixa, 2. >: Ma, u stvari, Unix je jedan veliki krs i koriste ga samo oni >koji nemaju pojma >: sta je pravi operativni sistem. Ti si, brate, naucio samo na >Nema veze kakvo ti imas misljenje o UNIX-u, ali nemoj u istoj >poruci da ga >hvalis i kudis ... Ne vredi :( Trudio sam se da ne odgovaram na ove poruke, ali eto, moram da ne bi vise bilo bezveznih odgovora - Naime, oni koji to mogu sebi da predstave, shvatice da je citat moje poruke, ovde oznacen brojem 2. samo cinicniji stav prema Banetovom insistrianju na Unixu po svaku cenu, te da i on sam u stvari govori u prilog Unixu, ako se procita cela poruka. Dakle, zamolio bih one koji zele da daju svoj dragoceni doprinos rasvetljavanju Unix-a kod nas, na osnovu ove poruke, da se ipak uzdrze i da, eventualno procitaju poruku koju sam uputio sledeci dan u kome podrobnije objasnjavam onima koji citaju samo parcice poruka, sta znaci taj deo. * Origin: SETNet:INFOSYS BBS * BBS u ilegali ;> * (38:103/114)

email.424 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: YU-Internet hosts list -- ANNOUNCE Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 23:07:12 Vojislav Mihailovic said: MH> Nova lista za septembar, oktobar i novembar (tromesecna MH> nazalost -- prevelika zauzetost, :-( ) sadrzi sledece i MH> novitete: MH> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu VM> Hoce li se _KONACNO_ na toj listi naci setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? Zar nisi primetio da je ovo spisak noviteta za poslednja tri meseca? Komletna lista je mnoooogo dugacka, zato je Miroslav i prestao da je salje u konferencije. Domain setnet.co.yu se u njoj nalazi od prvog dana kada je otvoren pre vise od godinu dana. * Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)

email.428 postmast, 20 Nov 95

From: salinger.i@setnet.co.yu (Igor Salinger) Subject: Internet Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:38:31 Verovatno ce vam pitanje izgledati suvise lako, ali se mora i od neceg poceti :)) Naime, do sada sam koristio Internet mail i to mi je bilo dovoljo. Pre neki dan sam, u zaglavlju jednog casopisa video poruku da je njegov sadrzaj dostupan preko sledecih baza podataka (databases): DataStar, FT Profile, ESA, ICA itd. Ja pitam: kako njima pristupiti? Drugo, kako nekom ko je na adresi @cosmos-uk.org da posaljem par fajlova (*.GIF najverovatnije)? Ima li neki "normalniji" nacin ili mora da ide sa onim progranmom "UNENCODE" ili kako li vec zove? Pozdrav i THK in FWD, SALINGER ... SALINGER.I@setnet.co.yu / SALINGER.I@zamir-bg.ztn.apc.org * Origin: *SETNet: Taurunum BBS +381 11 2354-253, Zemun* (38:103/104)

email.435 mzdravkovic, 22 Nov 95

Instalirao sam Netscape na mnogim racunarima u mrezi, ali sam sada naisao na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na racunaru koji nije u mrezi, tj. nema mreznu karticu.

email.436 slom, 22 Nov 95 -> #428, postmast

> From: salinger.i@setnet.co.yu (Igor Salinger) > Subject: Internet .. > Pre neki dan sam, u zaglavlju jednog casopisa video poruku da je > njegov sadrzaj dostupan preko sledecih baza podataka (databases): > DataStar, FT Profile, ESA, ICA itd. Ja pitam: kako njima pristupiti? Data-Star --------- Formerly owned by Radio-Suisse in Switzerland, Data-Star is now owned by Knight-Ridder (U.S.A.). It offers over 200 databases within business, science and medicine, and is strong on European information. SciSearch is a database with references to over nine million stories from 4500 newspapers and magazines. Other databases: Current Patents Fast Alert, Flightline (with stories about air transport), The Turing Institute Database on artificial intelligence, Information Access (international market data), parts of SovData, Who Owns Whom, Telefirm - Directory of French Companies, etc.. Access through Internet: telnet to rserve.rs.ch [192.82.124.4] and login as rserve , and follow standard login procedure. Contact in North America: D-S Marketing, Inc., Suite 110, 485 Devon Park Drive, Wayne, PA 19087, Tel.: +1-215-687-6777. Contact in Scandinavia: Radio Suisse marketing AB, Maessans gt. 18, Box 5278, S-402 25 Gothenburg, Sweden. Tel.: +46 31 83 59 75. FT Profile ---------- has full-text articles from Financial Times in London, from several European databases (like the Hoppenstedt database with more than 46,000 German companies), and the Japanese database Nikkei. Profile is available through Telecom-Gold, and can also be accessed through other online services. Clipping service. CD-ROM. Contact FT Information Services at tel.: +44-71-873-3000.

email.437 ppekovic, 23 Nov 95 -> #435, mzdravkovic

>> Instalirao sam Netscape na mnogim racunarima u mrezi, ali sam >> sada naisao na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na >> racunaru koji nije u mrezi, tj. nema mreznu karticu. Podmetni mu winsock.dll iz nullsock paketa koji vara program da postoji uspostavljena veza ispod. Nullsock imaš ovde na Sezamu, kao i na FFS-u i ftp serverima po YU-Internetu. Ne znam gde je na Sezamu, potraži prvo po direktorijumima a zatim u konferenciji PC.OS. Paya

email.438 mileusna, 23 Nov 95

Dakle, sankcija više nema, ali nema ni Interneta. :) Možemo li nešto da očekujemo da se uradi po tom pitanju u neko dogledno vreme? Upućeni, imate reč... :)

email.439 spantic, 23 Nov 95 -> #435, mzdravkovic

> na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na racunaru koji nije u mrezi, > tj. nema mreznu karticu. FAQ: Za Windows 3.11 staviti u C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ lažnji winsock.dll iz paketa nullsock.zip. Pre startovanja Netscape iz netscape.ini izbaciti automatsko učitavanje matične strane.

email.440 mzdravkovic, 24 Nov 95 -> #437, ppekovic

>>>> sada naisao na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na >>>> racunaru koji nije u mrezi, tj. nema mreznu karticu. >> >> Podmetni mu winsock.dll iz nullsock paketa koji vara program >> da postoji uspostavljena veza ispod. Hvala na odgovoru, ali mi je ipak potrebno nesto drugo. Hteo sam da isprobam blagodeti TWINSOCK-a i programa TSHOST na galebu. Iz TWINSOCK-a, izaberem Dial, conectujem se, ulogujem se na GALEB, startujem TSHOST i kada startujem Netscape eto poruke da ne moze da ucita TCP. Kako ovo resiti ?

email.441 banga, 24 Nov 95 -> #435, mzdravkovic

> Instalirao sam Netscape na mnogim racunarima u mrezi, ali sam > sada naisao na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na > racunaru koji nije u mrezi, A gde je problem. Ja sam instalirao Netscape SAMO na masinama bez mreze :)

email.443 eotek, 24 Nov 95 -> #438, mileusna

> Dakle, sankcija vise nema, ali nema ni Interneta. :) > Mozemo li nesto da ocekujemo da se uradi po tom pitanju u neko mislim da ce krenuti k'o shashawo, pa cemo doci i do normalnih cena (cca 200 dem za pristup, 100 dem mesecno, a sve full internet - unlimited, a valjda ce i plate biti blize normalnom ;) videste li reklamu za BK Net (mala reklamica, ali ipak) - zna li neko detalje ?

email.442 eotek, 24 Nov 95 -> #440, mzdravkovic

> TWINSOCK-a, izaberem Dial, conectujem se, ulogujem se na GALEB, > startujem TSHOST i kada startujem Netscape eto poruke da ne > moze da ucita TCP. verovatno je problem u (nekoj od verzija) winsock.dll: - gledaj da koristis winsock.dll iz twinsock- paketa (twnsck14.zip) i u direktorijumu gde ti je twinsock, ali i u direktorijumu \windows. pregledaj da ga nema na jos nekom mestu (\windows\system) - ako ga ima brisi ga. - koristi verziju netscape 1.2 (arhiva n16e12n.exe)

email.444 banek, 25 Nov 95

Da li sada mozemo da ocekujemo pun INTERNET? Ako mozemo onda i KADA? Hvala! :)

email.445 vcalic, 25 Nov 95

A jel' ima neke šanse da nam vrate onaj Bitnet/EARN, bar da drži vodu dok ne dođe Internet ovde? Vlada

email.446 gerber, 25 Nov 95 -> #444, banek

YR>*> Da li sada mozemo da ocekujemo pun INTERNET? YR>*> Ako mozemo onda i KADA? Hvala! :) Pa mogli smo i do sada da je neko bio spreman da obezbedi: " BUSINESS PROPOSAL Generalno za ovaj posao je potrebno sledece: - oprema cca 20 000 DEM - telefonske linije cca 35 000 DEM - veza sa providerom u inostranstvu cca 25 000 DEM - troskovi marketinga i otpocinjanja posla cca 10 000 do 20 000 DEM Okvirna cifra je dakle oko 100 kDEM. " Kao i da je PTT bio spreman da proda određeni broj telefonskih linija.

email.447 haevorn, 25 Nov 95

Sta se desava sa postom na UBBG-u? Poruka je stigla na ETF juce u 18.00, a meni na UBBG tek danas u 14.30! Kad otkucam poruku i kad je posaljem treba mu 1/2 sata da mi vrati MAIL> prompt... osecam da nesto debelo tu ne stima... :(

email.448 milan, 25 Nov 95 -> #446, gerber

> " BUSINESS PROPOSAL > > Generalno za ovaj posao je potrebno sledece: > - oprema cca 20 000 DEM > - telefonske linije cca 35 000 DEM > - veza sa providerom u inostranstvu cca 25 000 DEM > - troskovi marketinga i otpocinjanja posla cca 10 000 do 20 000 DEM > > Okvirna cifra je dakle oko 100 kDEM. " > > Kao i da je PTT bio spreman da proda određeni broj telefonskih > linija. Bojim se da je cena čak i veća, bar su neki naši proračuni to pokazali. Sa druge strane svako ko je razmišljao o ovom poslu (tačnije, oni koje ja poznajem) ima utisak da nema dovoljno "mušterija". Istina, niko nije ni pokušao da napravi neko ozbiljno ispitivanje tržišta a i kako bi za tako malu ivesticiju? Zaključak: Najverovatnije je da ćemo još dugo imati ovo što smo imali i tokom sankcija: E-mail sa inostranstvom preko Univerziteta a ostale Internet usluge za jedan manji broj korisnika direktno finansiranih preko naučnih projekata. Pl poz M

email.449 gerber, 25 Nov 95 -> #448, milan

YR>*> "mušterija". Istina, niko nije ni pokušao da napravi neko ozbiljno YR>*> ispitivanje tržišta a i kako bi za tako malu ivesticiju? Nadajmo se da ima firmi koje smatraju da će dosta ljudi koji su i do sada plaćali povelike telefonske račune pronaći interes da te pare daju na ime "provajderskih" usluga. A neminovono je da će se tokom vremena pojaviti dodatni interes i kod drugih, kako pojedinaca tako i firmi. YR>*> Zaključak: Najverovatnije je da ćemo još dugo imati ovo što smo YR>*> imali i tokom sankcija: E-mail sa inostranstvom preko Univerziteta YR>*> a ostale Internet usluge za jedan manji broj korisnika direktno YR>*> finansiranih preko naučnih projekata. Ako se i ne nađe neka domaća firma, pojaviće se inostrana. Kad tad. Ali i dalje ostaje problem da se, ako se sama PTT ne uključi u projekat, dođe do zadovoljavajućeg broja linija. Teško da će neki ozbiljan posao da se ostvari ako bude bilo potrebno da se nekoliko sati okreće broj. Pogotovo što će određeni broj pretplatnika (u zavisnosti sa centrale sa koje pozivaju) da ima stanovite probleme pri uspostavljanju i održavanju veze.

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From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic) Subject: Kanada Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:22:03 MN> From: milan.nedeljkovic@panon.ns.ac.yu (Milan Nedeljkovic) MN> Newsgroups: yu.net.email MN> Organization: Panon BBS, Novi Sad MN> Zeleo bih da uspostavim vezu za prijateljem koji je u Torontu. MN> Sledeceg meseca kupuje modem pa bih zeleo da ga obradujem podacima MN> kako da najjeftinije (citaj: ako moze besplatno) salje E-mail u MN> Jugoslaviju. Ovde ti je broj telefona. Javis se, kazes da hoces da se registrujes (sve je dzabe), dodele ti username, uzaberes sifru, popunis upitnik. Onda DL-ujes ovaj tekst ispod (ne moras da ga DL-ujes ako sacuvas ovu poruku;)), odstampas, popunis i posaljes postom. Stavku o tome kako je koriscenje dzabe, ali bi lepo bilo da im darujes kojih 100 kanadskih dolara elegantno zaobidjes ;))) Enjoy! VojaM TORONTO FREE-NET MEMBER AGREEMENT Please read the information below and sign the application form on the bottom of the page. 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From: asli.djuricin@panon.ns.ac.yu (Asli Djuricin) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts lis Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 03:42:00 GMT VP>From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic) VP> On 01-16-19 ASLI DJURICIN wrote to ALL... VP> ----------------------------------------- VP>AD> >> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu VP> AD> >> MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu VP> AD> >> MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu VP> AD> >> MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu VP> AD> >> MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu VP> AD> >> MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu VP> AD> >> MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu VP> Ispod ovoga u orihginalnoj poruci stoji: VP> (i jos mnogo, mnogo toga...) VP> Ovo je samo deo, nasumice odabranih noviteta. VP> AD> Nece mi biti tesko da dodjem u Beograd, pa da te zablesavim! Gde ti tu VP> AD> vidis setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? VP> A gde ti vidis da je to lista ??? Vidim tamo gde je poslata kao poruka! To što sam kvotirao, to mi je stiglo. Onda je neko pametan našao da me nazove blesavim jer ne vidim onog čega nema. VP> Ma nema... vi sa SetNet-a bi se samo sa nekim razracunavali! Vidi, ako tebe neko nazove blesavim, šta bi ti uradio? Zdule je s tim izrazom uvredio sve korisnike SetNeta, u koje i ja spadam. I opet pričaš kako bi se "mi" sa SetNeta razračunavali sa nekim... JA bi se razračunavao sa nekim kad počne da vredja i da provocira. Uostalom, nije mi jasno zašto si se ti našao prozvan da odgovaraš na moju poruku? Mislio sam da si normalan tip, a tebi je izgleda samo stalo da nadješ neki razlog, pa da malo razvezeš po SetNetu :( Nije ni SetNet idealan (daleko od toga), ali ja sam korisnk tog sistema, pa kad neko generalizuje stvari kao što Zdule radi, moram da reagujem, pogotovu kad se nešto direktno odnosi na mene. Ma, šta ti se ja uopšte i pravdam? VP> To sto je kompletna lista objavljena u yu.net, gde joj je i mesto i u njoj VP> lepo pise: VP>co.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu * 95110200 VP>---------------------------------------------------- VP>b92.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu VP>*.b92.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu Itd. itd... *TO* nije poslato. Poslato je ono što sam kvotirao u mojoj poruci, a tamo toga nema. Jel' sam zato blesav? Koji ste vi ljudi, to je strašno! VP> Lista je objavljena jos 12-og o.m. ko je hteo da cita - procitao je VP>ko nije - hteo bi da se razracunava! Axa, a gde je ta lista do sad? Odjednom se naprasno pojavila? Prvo :)))))))))) pa :((((((((( VP> AD> Hint: Vodi racuna o izrazavanju! VP> "Zablesavio" bi coveka na pravdi Boga! Vodi racuna zasto pretis! Vodim računa. Da ne vodim računa, bilo bi takvim ljudima od mene poslato gomila ovakvih poruka. I nemam nameru da nastavljam raspravu na ovu temu, zato, molim te, nemoj udarati R. Najlepše zahvaljujem na pažnji :) ¸> "Bother," said Ashley, as his Ben-wah balls shattered. * ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.3 #04 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu

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From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (vladap) Subject: Re: YU-Internet hosts lis Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 10:22:13 CET On 01-17-19 ASLI DJURICIN wrote to Vladislav Petrovic ----------------------------------------------------- AD> Vidi, ako tebe neko nazove blesavim, gta bi ti uradio? Zdule je s tim Pa, znas, "blesav" i nije tako lose prema "zlikovac"... Ma, psovali su mi i Srpsku mater pa nista - zivi oni, ziv ja. AD> Mislio sam da si normalan tip, a tebi je izgleda samo stalo da nadjeg Ovaj nizak udarac me podseca na nekog... AD> I nemam nameru da nastavljam raspravu na ovu temu, zato, molim te, AD> nemoj udarati R. AD> Najlepge zahvaljujem na pa'nji :) Znas li ti sta uopste hoces ??? Zaleteo si se odmah, kabadahijski da se razracunavas, to o tebi mnogo govori, sta jos hoces??? Umesto da se razracunavas zar ti ne bi bolje bilo da malo aktivnije pratis sta se pise po konferencijama pa bi onda ti bio taj koji bi na uljudan nacin rekao ljudima da grese i da su --svi-- *.co.yu domeni tamo gde i treba da budu: u kompletnoj listi koja se nalazi u konferenciji yu.net jos od 12-og Novembra! Ko je hteo da je procita - nasao ju je i cuti, ko nije odmah bi da bije. Ili se namerno "uhvatio" za ono sto je Malisha ostavio u yu.net.mail kao obavestenje a tamo bas i ne moraju svi da budu spomenuti! Jedino si u pravu za ono sa R (sto li da ga udaram :-)))))???) Slazem se, vise nema R --- * OFFLINE 1.56 * Da bog postoji na crkvama ne bi bilo gromobrana.

email.453 spantic, 26 Nov 95 -> #451, postmast

> From: asli.djuricin@panon.ns.ac.yu (Asli Djuricin) > Itd. itd... *TO* nije poslato. Poslato je ono što sam kvotirao u mojoj > poruci, a tamo toga nema. Jel' sam zato blesav? Koji ste vi ljudi, to je > strašno! Hajde smanji dozivljaj vise ili ce biti krajnje vreme da pocnu da se preduzimaju mere. Izvesne stvari kao sto je vredjanje i pretnje drugim korisnicima nisu stvar na koju se gleda sa postovanjem na mrezi, a to vazi za svakoga. Dugacka prica koju si razvezao samo te jos vise diskvalifikuje, jer sam pokazujes da originalnu poruku koju spominjes nisi ni procitao. Tamo je lepo bilo navedeno: razlike. I zato prestani da se generalizujes na sve korisnike SetNeta, praveci se zrtvom, jer to nisi i konacno prestani da stvaras ovoliki sum na mrezi.

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From: bole@bolex.bolex.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic) Subject: Re: adresa Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:58:01 GMT DENIS@vila.bc.co.yu wrote: : Hi! : Jedno pitanje: moja adresa je sad : Denis@vila.bc.co.yu : ,a htio bi da bude : !)enis@vila.bc.co.yu Hm... mozda i proguta ) ali ! nema sanseee:) Bolje ostani DENIS .. Pozdrav!

email.458 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: bole@bolex.bolex.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic) Subject: Re: email Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 23:23:21 GMT Miodrag Zdravkovic (mzdravkovic@sezam.UUCP) wrote: : Instalirao sam Netscape na mnogim racunarima u mrezi, ali sam sada naisao : na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na racunaru koji nije u mrezi, : tj. nema mreznu karticu. Skines sa FFS-a (mozda ima jos negde?) nullsock.zip. To je u stvari winsock.dll koji laze Njindovse da ima mreze itd... E kada ga namestis malko se molis da to proradi.. i eto uzivaj u Netscape-tu :) Pozdrav!

email.459 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: drazen@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu (Drazen Pantic) Subject: Re: email Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 23:50:04 GMT "Miodrag Zdravkovic" <mzdravkovic@sezam.UUCP> wrote: > Hvala na odgovoru, ali mi je ipak potrebno nesto drugo. >Hteo sam da isprobam blagodeti TWINSOCK-a i programa TSHOST na galebu. Iz >TWINSOCK-a, izaberem Dial, conectujem se, ulogujem se na GALEB, startujem >TSHOST i kada startujem Netscape eto poruke da ne moze da ucita TCP. > Kako ovo resiti ? Zavisi od uzroka. *) Ako do galeba dolazis telnetom preko orla ili indy-ja onda veza nije 8-bitna, tako da tshost nece raditi sa switcevima -x ili -n. *) Ako imas instalisan Win95 sa podrskom za TCP i koristis 32-bitnu verziju Netscape-a, onda NEtscape trazi da socket driver bude 32-bitni (winsock.dll i pridruzeni virtualni drajveri). A winsock iz TwinSock paketa je 16-bitni. Pl poz D

email.460 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: EKRAJNOV@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Krajnovic Nenad) Subject: Re: email Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:45:49 GMT In <sezam$email:01.127.1146@sezam> "Milos writes: > Dakle, sankcija vise nema, ali nema ni Interneta. :) > Mozemo li nesto da ocekujemo da se uradi po tom pitanju u neko > dogledno vreme? Upuceni, imate rec... :) Cim se nadje ko ce to sve da placa... Pozdrav, Krajko .-------. Nenad Krajnovic, B.Sc.E.E. | e-mail: krajko@etf.bg.ac.yu | --+-- | YUNet Network Engineer | | /|\ Belgrade University | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419 |-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | 3224-430 | \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3222-971/lok.350 | --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA| Fax: (+381-11) 3248-681 `-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------

email.461 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: WHELLIN@almandar.bc.co.yu Subject: Re:_adresa Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 12:45:31 GMT -=> Quoting Denis to All <=- De> De> Hi! De> Jedno pitanje: moja adresa je sad De> Denis@vila.bc.co.yu De> ,a htio bi da bude De> !)enis@vila.bc.co.yu Ne mozesh izabrati ! i ) u korisnichkom imenu zato shto su ti karakteri rezervisani (vec upotrebljeni) za odredjene operacije prilikom slanja poshte... Sorry... Whellin ... Happy as a vampire in a blood bank. 2.12 --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: Almandar * Neka Bude Svetlost! * BC (95:988/133)

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From: asli.djuricin@panon.ns.ac.yu (Asli Djuricin) Subject: Re: mailing Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 17:46:00 GMT SS> SP> Da, ali slazem se sa Damirom da nije problem samo u tih 100 000, SS> SP> nego tu postoje i neciji umovi koji se tome protive iz ko zna kojih SS> SP> razloga. Ni ne pokusavam da ih shvatim... :) SS> Kao sto rekoh, ovaj sadasnji provajder je 4x skuplji od onog drugog. SS> Sta mislis, sta se desava sa razlikom? Razlika ide ministru prosvete Dragoslavu Mladenoviću u džepić :((( ¸> Fellatio is not an opera * ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.3 #04 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu

email.463 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: Vladimir.Svrkota%f119.n111.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Svrkota) Subject: Internet ? Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:23:04 Izgleda da su "nepravedne & nicim izazvane" sankcije pri kraju. Da li bi neko ko je kompetentan mogao da mi kaze sta ce se u okviru SETNet-a predu- zeti povodom povezivanja sa svetskim Internetom. ... éí 'aaníígóó 'áhoot'é * Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)

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From: SETN%f101.n101.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (SETN) Subject: Statistics Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:51:00 Maintaned by CONFERENCE STATISTICS SHELL - (c)1995 by Predrag Supurovic ======================================================================= Conference NET.EMAIL maintained on 26.10.95. for 28 days backward. QRATIO Mail Statistics V1.9 by Act Of Impulse. ---------------------------------------------- Total messages found in this area : 755 Number of messages covered in report: 255 Processed period from: 26-10-1995 to 21-11-1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Blacklist-Top 5 of the Quoters. Nr Total Quoted Quote Name Address Msg Lines Lines: Ratio: ---- ------- --- ----- ------ ------ 1. Srdjan Kurtovic.......... 38:135/135.1 6 54 34 62.96% 2. Asli Djuricin............ 38:103/120 7 118 69 58.47% 3. X........................ 38:103/120 1 12 7 58.33% 4. Damir Colak.............. 38:103/128 4 26 15 57.69% 5. Dragisa N. Duric......... 38:103/120 5 123 66 53.66% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 of the writers. Total Average Quote Name Msgs: Pct. Byte/Msg Ratio: ---- ----- ----- -------- ------ 1. Subotic Branislav 16 6.3% 1313 23.72% 2. Predrag Supurovic 13 5.1% 1251 40.61% 3. Zoran Doroslovac 13 5.1% 2609 9.11% 4. Vojislav Mihailovic 11 4.3% 1794 39.44% 5. Dusan Mihajlovic 9 3.5% 547 34.00% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 of the receivers. Total Name Msgs: Pct. ---- ----- ----- 1. All 168 65.9% 2. Nikola Alivojvodic 10 3.9% 3. Subotic Branislav 10 3.9% 4. Vojislav Mihailovic 7 2.7% 5. Aleksandar Jevic 6 2.4% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 of the subjects. Subject Nr. ------- --- 1. mailing..................................................... 54 2. email....................................................... 36 3. Spisak Sistema.............................................. 25 4. Net.Internet? Jok Ja,....................................... 10 5. WWW......................................................... 8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Average posting frequency per week: Day Msgs Pct. Graph Sunday 40 15.7% ***************************************** Monday 50 19.6% *************************************************** Tuesday 23 9.0% *********************** Wednesday 34 13.3% *********************************** Thursday 50 19.6% *************************************************** Friday 33 12.9% ********************************** Saturday 25 9.8% ************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Average posting frequency per day: Interval Msgs Pct. Graph -------- ---- ----- ----- 0:00- 1:59 29 11.4% **************************************** 2:00- 3:59 11 4.3% *************** 4:00- 5:59 9 3.5% ************ 6:00- 7:59 9 3.5% ************ 8:00- 9:59 13 5.1% ****************** 10:00-11:59 37 14.5% *************************************************** 12:00-13:59 33 12.9% ********************************************** 14:00-15:59 18 7.1% ************************* 16:00-17:59 26 10.2% ************************************ 18:00-19:59 26 10.2% ************************************ 20:00-21:59 22 8.6% ****************************** 22:00-23:59 22 8.6% ****************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)

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From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: Gating Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:18:37 Slobodan Utvic said: RN> From: madmaxx@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Robert Nemet) RN> Newsgroups: yu.humor.vic RN> Organization: Fakultet Organizacionih Nauka, Beograd SU> Prvo cemu sluze ove tri linije gore ??????? SU> Jel to mora toliko !!!!!! To smo namestili da se ubacuje u svaku poruku koja u SETNet dolazi sa YUInterneta da bi se znalo o cemu se tacno radi. Te tri informacije su vazne: YUINternet adresa pisca (u hederu poruke stoji njegovo ime a ne adresa), koja je neophodna ako zelis da autoru posaljes mail; ime konferencije kako se zove na YUInternet-u (jer se kod nas zovu drugacije); i treci podatak je naziv organizacije odakle je poruka, sto se cesto svodi na ime racunara na kome je poruka napisana. To dodje nesto kao Origin linija u SETNet-u. Mozemo da namestimo da se u poruku upisuje i mnogo vise informacija, ali smatramo da je to nepotebno za korisnike i da ce samo da povecava pakete bez velike svrhe. RN> ! Origin: SETNet - BeoInternet most ->...<- (38:103/120.0) SU> A cemu i ovo sluzi !!! Pa da znate da je poruka koju citate sa YUInterneta. To je origin Gateway-a prema YUINternet-u. Ima istu funkciju kao i origin svakog drugog BBS-a. Gateway je ukratko racunar na kome se vrsi konverzija poste izmedju dve mreze. On poruke pisane po protokolu jedne mreze prilagodjava protokolu druge mreze i obrnuto. Njime obezbedjuje 100% kompatibilnost poruka u obe mreze. Nadam se da ti je ovo bilo dovoljno objasnjenje. Broker ########## ######################################################## # SETNet - THE ART OF COMMUNICATIONS # ########## ################################ broker@setnet.co.yu ### * Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)

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From: srle@setnet.co.yu (Srdjan Kurtovic) Subject: Internet Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:19:13 >> Igor Salinger u poruci za All rece: IS> Drugo, kako nekom ko je na adresi @cosmos-uk.org da posaljem par IS> fajlova (*.GIF najverovatnije)? Ima li neki "normalniji" nacin ili mora IS> da ide sa onim progranmom "UNENCODE" ili kako li vec zove? Koliko ja znam mozes sa UUENCODE i to ce 100% da ode ... nazalost ne znam za ostale :( srle@vila.bc.co.yu * Origin: Vila co.BBS # Prijedor_RS # +381 79 11 301 # SETNet: (38:135/135.1)

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From: utvara@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Utvic) Subject: Gating Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:13:00 I heard Predrag MacSupurovic said Gating : RN> From: madmaxx@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Robert Nemet) Ok ovo je potrebno . RN> Newsgroups: yu.humor.vic Jos uvek mi nije jasno cemu ovo sluzi jer ja njemu i onako odgovaram u NET.JOKES ??? RN> Organization: Fakultet Organizacionih Nauka, Beograd Pa njemu u madmaxx@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu pise koji je domen ?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ipak mislim da bi se to sve moglo svesti na 1 liniju . RN> ! Origin: SETNet - BeoInternet most ->...<- (38:103/120.0) SU> A cemu i ovo sluzi !!! PS> Pa da znate da je poruka koju citate sa YUInterneta. To je origin PS> Gateway-a prema YUINternet-u. Ima istu funkciju kao i origin svakog Ovo sam napisao cisto iz revolta ;(( Utvara ... After formating disk I fell beter , I formated your first . * Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)

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From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic) Subject: Re: MAILING Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:43:00 NA> VM> Povodom ovoga... Da li je neko uspeo da natera PCB 15.21 da u Internet NA> VM> konferenciji posalje IZ LOKALA fajl uz poruku. U uputstvu pise da ako NA> VM> se uz poruku posalje fajl, on se automatski uuencoduje i pridoda na NA> ?? A zasto je to toliko vazno ? Zar ne mozes kuci prvo da podelis NA> falj u arhive od po 10Kb (recimo pomocu RAR-a), pa da svaku NA> arhivu uuencodujes i ucitas u BW, napravis REP paket i to NA> posaljes na BBS ? NIje valjda da ovo nece proci kod PCB 15.21 ?!?! Ovako je elegantnije ;)) Saznao sam od kolega da je stos u tome da se izabere neki od ugradjenih protokola (ja sam koristio C - Xmodem-CRC). Uzgred, stvar odlicno radi i u drugom smeru - kada ti stizu UUEncode-ovane poruke, ali... Stize mi golila slika od jednog inostranog dopisnika Sveta kompjutera, uuencode-ovano, ali necim sto nije dovoljno kompatibilno. Ne znam koji je to program (on koristi Eudoru za Windows, mozda je odatle), ali on dobro radi sa obicnim UUDECODE programom samo ako je fajl u jednom komadu (poruci). Ako nije, taj program svakom delu da ime, kao da je u pitanju vise fajlova, a na kraju, recimo, prvog dela, napise LINK <ime_drugog_dela). Kada pokusam da dekodujem neki od tih ostalih delova UUDECODE mi kaze 'NOTHING TO DECODE'! I, sta se desi? PCBoard uspe da dekoduje samo prvi deo (takodje, i ja rucno nisam uspeo da raspakujem ostale delove) i prikaze ga kao fajl uz poruku, ali, posto operacija dekodovanja nije potpuno zavrsena, nazove ga, recimo, PERA.000 umesto PERA.GIF. Ostale delove ostavi neraspakovane u obliku uuencode teksta u poruci, a cak sam u SPOOL direktorijumu nasao neke poruke koje nije ni ubacio u bazu - zaglupeo se, valjda. E, sada, kako sam ja to ipak uspeo da zakrpim? Fajlovi koji su stali u jednu poruku stigli su kako treba. Fajlove kod kojih se dekodovao sam prvi deo morao sam rucno da enkodujem, da im pridodam u editoru ostale delove (izbacivsi sva zaglavlja osim prvog) i da ih ponovo dekodujem - i uspeo je! * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

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From: Nikola.Alivojvodic%f133.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Nikola Alivojvodic) Subject: Re: MAILING Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:46:02 VM> Povodom ovoga... Da li je neko uspeo da natera PCB 15.21 da u Internet VM> konferenciji posalje IZ LOKALA fajl uz poruku. U uputstvu pise da ako VM> se uz poruku posalje fajl, on se automatski uuencoduje i pridoda na ?? A zasto je to toliko vazno ? Zar ne mozes kuci prvo da podelis falj u arhive od po 10Kb (recimo pomocu RAR-a), pa da svaku arhivu uuencodujes i ucitas u BW, napravis REP paket i to posaljes na BBS ? NIje valjda da ovo nece proci kod PCB 15.21 ?!?! Mislim da na taj nacin i ne mogu da provale da saljes fajlove uz ili kao svoje poruke ... :> Pozdrav. * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

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From: sasa.vucetic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Sasa Vucetic) Subject: Wanted Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 23:32:00 CET X-QWK To: All Poruka je uglavnom za one sa Panona. Da li se ovde negde pojavljuje izvesni Ninoslav Trickovic - Ninko, nekad iz Nisa a sada iz Novog Sada (imam informaciju da je u poslu sa kompjuterima)? ... Have mercy !!!!! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Courtesy of Silver Xpress * Origin: Rolling Stones * Yugoslavia * (2:382/105.5) SEEN-BY: 200/2

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From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic) Subject: Dejton i RS !!! Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 12:42:24 CET Znam da ovome mesto nije ovde, poslah ovo i u yu.forum.politika ali ne izdrazah morao sam poslati pa kud puklo da puklo! Jos jednom molim sve da mi oproste! Morao sam! Citajte i.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Details Of Dayton Agreement Main details of the Dayton peace agreement: The Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina will continue as a sovereign state within its present internationally recognized borders. It will be composed of two entities: the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which will control 51 percent of the territory, and the Serb Republic, which will hold the remainder. The central government will have responsibility over foreign policy, foreign trade, customs, immigration, monetary policy, international law enforcement, communications, transportation and air traffic control. The legislature will be bicameral, with a 15-person upper chamber selected from the assemblies of the entities and a 42-person lower chamber directly elected from each entity. A three-person executive presidency will consist of one member elected by direct ballot in the Serb Republic and two members elected in the federation. Other central institutions include a constitutional court and a central bank. The capital, Sarajevo, will be reunified within the Muslim-Croat federation. The eastern Muslim enclave of Gorazde will be linked to the federation by a secure land corridor. The final status of Brcko, a Serb-held town on a narrow stretch connecting Serb territories in western and eastern Bosnia, will be determined by arbitration within one year. Bosnian government forces will relinquish the town of Mrkonjic Grad and a surrounding mountainous region to the Serb entity. All foreign forces will withdraw from Bosnia within 30 days, and the two sides will move their forces behind the new cease-fire lines within one month. Two-kilometer-wide zones of separation will be established on both sides of the line. All heavy weapons will be withdrawn to barracks within 120 days. Free and fair elections will be held within six to nine months for all elective offices in the central government and the entities. Refugees will have the right to vote in their original place of residence. The constitution will guarantee ``the highest levels'' of human rights. A Commission on Human Rights, consisting of an Ombudsman and a Human Rights Chamber, will investigate violations and will have the authority in both entities. The peace implementation force -- IFOR -- will be authorized to use military force to prevent interference with free movement or violence against civilians and refugees. IFOR will have unimpeded freedom of movement throughout Bosnia and Herzegovina. The accord compels the parties to ``cooperate fully'' with international investigation and prosecution of war crimes. The obligation also pertains to Serbia and Croatia. IFOR will have the authority to arrest indicted war criminals if it encounters them, but will not try to track them down. Although the U.N. Security Council will lift the arms embargo against Bosnia and the trade sanctions against Serbia, the latter will be reimposed if any Serb authorities fail to meet their obligations under the peace agreement. A U.N. police task force will be set up to train, advise and monitor law enforcement agencies. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Serbs' vital ``corridor'' is sticking point in deal BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (Reuter) - Amid the unfinished business from the Dayton peace agreement is an eerie, shell-blasted strip of land that serves as a vital umbilical cord for Serbs in the north of Bosnia. The only route for military supplies and fuel to the Serb stronghold of Banja Luka throughout the war, the Posavina Corridor has been fired on by Croat troops to the north or Muslim forces to the south most days in the last three years. Serbs are fond of romanticizing the Corridor as a rat-run along which the brave dash between the ranks of the enemy. For Muslims and Croats, it stands as a relic of ethnic cleansing and the Serb campaign to carve out a viable, ethnically ``pure'' statelet in the wreckage of Bosnia. Far from Sarajevo, the strip has attracted little media attention during the past three years but has emerged as one of the toughest sticking points in peace negotiations. Croatia's ambassador to the United Nations said in Zagreb Tuesday the future of the area was still unresolved and would be put to international arbitration. The corridor linking Serbs in northwest Bosnia to Serbs in the east, and to their erstwhile sponsor Serbia itself, was only carved out after some of the bloodiest fighting of the Bosnian war in the summer of 1992. The strip is a mere three miles wide at its narrowest point and the sole potholed road through is littered with wrecked cars and trucks, more of them apparently crashed by nervously speeding drivers than hit by enemy fire. But scores of civilians have been killed by Muslim and Croat shell, mortar or rifle fire on the road, which passes between fields infested with Serb mines and along the banks of the River Sava, in view of Croat artillery on the other side. ``Leave a big gap between you and the vehicle in front, don't stop and drive fast,'' police tell drivers at checkpoints in the shattered town of Brcko, close to the corridor's narrowest point. Towns and villages along the stretch, ethnically mixed before the Bosnian war, are largely deserted. Houses are gutted and Catholic churches and mosques reduced to rubble. But some of the Serb troops stationed in the corridor enjoy better conditions than most soldiers in any war -- there are several pleasant detached homes still intact to serve as living quarters. Since summer 1992 Serb-held northern Bosnia has never again been completely cut off, but the road has been regularly closed for days by fighting. Serb military officers are keenly aware the corridor is their Achilles heel, and a key demand in Dayton was that it be widened to give them greater security. Muslims and Croats from the area staged angry protests last week when reports from Dayton suggested the Serb request would be granted. The Bosnian press agency said Tuesday a final decision on the width of the strip had been deferred for a year. Russian Col.-Gen. Leontiy Shevtsov told German television Tuesday that under the Dayton agreement Russian peacekeepers -- usually considered ``friendly'' to the Serbs -- would be stationed in the corridor. In September, before the Bosnian cease-fire was declared, a senior Serb military officer told Reuters Serb forces feared that Muslim and Croat forces would launch an offensive to cut the corridor and strangle Banja Luka of supplies. ``If it was cut we would be forced to try and push through their lines again, perhaps at another point. It would be bloodier than anything in the war so far,'' he said. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Text of Framework Agreement for Peace in Bosnia UNITED NATIONS, Nov 21 (Reuter) - Following is the text of the General Framework Agreement for Peace in Bosnia and Herzegovina, initialed on Tuesday in Dayton, Ohio, by the Presidents of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro). It is accompanied by 11 annexes and was witnessed by officials from the United States, France, Germany, Russia, Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the European Union's special negotiator. The test reads as follows: ``The Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Republic of Croatia and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (the ``Parties''), Recognising the need for a comprehennsive settlement to bring an end to the tragic conflict in the region, Desiring to contribute toward that end and to promote an enduring peace and stability, Affirming their commitment to the Agreed Basic Principles issued on September 8, 1995, the Further Agreed Basic Principles issued on September 26, 1995, and the ceasefire agreements of September 14 and October 5, 1995, Noting the agreement of August 29, 1995, which authorised the delegation of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia to sign, on behalf of the Republika Srpska, the parts of the peace plan concerning it, with the obligation to implement the agreement that is reached strictly and consequently, Have agreed as follows: ARTICLE I: The Parties shall conduct their relations in accordance with the principles set forth in the United Nations Charter, as well as the Helsinki Final Act and other documents of the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe. In particular, the Parties shall fully respect the sovereign equality of one another, shall settle disputes by peaceful means, and shall refrain from any action, by threat or use of force or otherwise, against the territorial integrity or political independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina or any other State. ARTICLE II: The Parties welcome and endorse the arrangements that have been made concerning the military aspects of the peace settlement and aspects of regional stabilisation, as set forth in the Agreements at Annex 1-A and Annex 1-B. The Parties shall fully respect and promote fulfilment of the commitments made in Annex 1-A, and shall comply fully with their commitments as set forth in Annex 1-B. ARTICLE III: The Parties welcome and endorse the arrangements that have been made concerning the boundary demarcation between the two Entities, the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska, as set forth in the Agreement at Annex 2. The Parties shall fully respect and promote fulfilment of the commitments made therein. ARTICLE IV: The Parties welcome and endorse the elections programme for Bosnia and Herzegovina as set forth in Annex 3. The Parties shall fully respect and promote fulfilment of that programme. ARTICLE V: The Parties welcome and endorse the arrangements that have been made concerning the Constitution of Bosnia and Herzegovina, as set forth in Annex 4. The Parties shall fully respect and promote fulfilment of the commitments made therein. ARTICLE VI: The Parties welcome and endorse the arrangements that have been made concerning the establishment of an arbitration tribunal, a Commission on Human Rights, a Commission on Refugees and Displaced Persons, a Commission to Preserve National Monuments, and Bosnia and Herzegovina Public Corporations, as set forth in the Agreements at Annexes 5-9. The Parties shall fully respect and promote fulfilment of the commitments made therein. ARTICLE VII: Recognising that the observance of human rights and the protection of refugees and displaced persons are of vital importance in achieving a lasting peace, the Parties agree to and shall fully comply with the provisions concerning human rights set forth in Chapter One of the Agreement at Annex 6, as well as the provisions concerning refugees and displaced persons set forth in Chapter One of the Agreement at Annex 7. ARTICLE VIII: The Parties welcome and endorse the arrangements that have been made concerning the implementation of this peace settlement, including in particular those pertaining to the civilian (non-military) implementation, as set forth in the Agreement at Annex 10, and the international police task force, as set forth in the Agreement at Annex 11. The Parties shall fully respect and promote fulfilment of the commitments made therein. ARTICLE IX: The Parties shall cooperate fully with all entities involved in implementation of this peace settlement, as described in the Annexes to this Agreement, or which are otherwise authorised by the United Nations Security Council, pursuant to the obligation of all Parties to cooperate in the investigation and prosecution of war crimes and other violations of international humanitarian law. ARTICLE X: This Agreement shall enter into force upon signature.'' ---

email.480 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: MAILING Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:00:00 +0100 ---> Bljak.....Oces i ovaj termin da ponovis?? ili ti to stvarno nije ---> obicaj? ---> Dragan D. Vecerina ---> E-mail adresa: vecxo@etf.bg.ac.yu STRASNO STRASNO !:) NJIH definitvno treba OTKACITI !:) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

email.488 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: CENE TEL ... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:14:00 +0100 Modemska populacijo .. evo novih cena za TELEFON !:) U beogradu 3 minuta su 1 impuls ... sto dodje 0.026 Dinara ili 2.6 para A medju gradska je sa recimo PRIJEDOROM 0,104 din minut . :)) sa 018 ( nish ) je .... 0.09 sRadni doanom 3-5 9-7 ujutru Wikend subota 3-5 9- po Jeftina TARIFA !!! Radnim danima je od 15-17 i 21-07 Vikendom Subota od 3-5 i 21 - PA DO PONEDELJAK U 7 Znaci .. MAKE PARTY :))) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

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From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: YU-INTERNET HOSTS LIS Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:00:00 +0100 ---> ZDule... ---> ps: mrzim jajare koji prete na daljinu ako hoces dodji Prvomajska 33/4 Zemun ---> ako ne dodjes doci cu ja do tebe IDEM I JA !!! IDEM I JA !!! IDEM I JA !!! IDEM I JA !!! ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

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From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: YU-INTERNET HOSTS LIS Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:00:00 +0100 ---> ---> Lista je objavljena jos 12-og o.m. ko je hteo da cita - procitao je ---> ko nije - hteo bi da se razracunava! ---> AD>> Hint: Vodi racuna o izrazavanju! ---> ---> "Zablesavio" bi coveka na pravdi Boga! Vodi racuna zasto pretis! NEBI NEBI .... Prvo sto bi ga ZDULE prepolovio ... Zatim sto nas ovde ima mnooooooooogo ... Prosto bi ga nashli negde u nekom shumarku na mracnom Vracaru ... ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

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From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: YU-INTERNET HOSTS LIS Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:00:00 +0100 DM>> Stvarno ste vi sa setnet-a malo blesavi. Pa setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu su DM>>u listi bar 6 meseci ako ne i duze. Jedan hint za tebe procitaj listu pre DM>>nego sto reagujes. >>> MH> ius.bg.ac.yu confused.fon.bg.ac.yu kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu >>> MH> paranoid.fon.bg.ac.yu xor.fon.bg.ac.yu rcub.bg.ac.yu >>> MH> rect.bg.ac.yu elf.bl.ac.yu ia.kg.ac.yu pkom.ni.ac.yu >>> MH> elfak.ni.ac.yu posta.ni.ac.yu sigraf.ni.ac.yu tanjug.ni.ac.yu >>> MH> ff.ns.ac.yu im.ns.ac.yu ram.ns.ac.yu etf.pr.ac.yu bc.co.yu >>> MH> bolex.co.yu emc.co.yu gama.co.yu opti.co.yu otc.co.yu >>> MH> pingvin.co.yu present.co.yu durlan.co.yu sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu ---> Nece mi biti tesko da dodjem u Beograd, pa da te zablesavim! Gde ti tu ---> vidis setnet.co.yu i sk.co.yu? ---> Hint: Vodi racuna o izrazavanju! DODJI DODJI ... TOPLO CEMO TE DOCEKATI !!! ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

email.481 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: FAQ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:00:00 +0100 ---> ________________________________________________________________ ---> Compiled by Allen Wittenauer 1:300/311.0, Moderator. E COVECE ... Takve gluposti UGUSHICE RAZMENU ... Mene boli uvo .. ja sve primam ZIP-ovano preko UUCP-a .. ali ima drugih ...:)) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

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From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic) Subject: Re: razmena sa inostranst Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:53:57 GMT ... Quoting Bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu Ba> E da administratori... Meni recimo fali mail poslet pre 10 Ba> dana iz Italije... Veceras je oko ponoci ponvo poslat al Ba> je sada sve stiglo posle nekih 2 sata... Ja saljem u Svajcarsku, a kaze da user ne postoji. Navodno napise da se nakacio, a dalje nista. Hm? pozdrav, Nidza (nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu) ... To UNSCREW the girl! How does it look like?!?? --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

email.477 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic) Subject: mailing Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:53:48 GMT ... Quoting Spop@Setnet.co.yu Sp> Da, ali slazem se sa Damirom da nije problem samo u tih 100 000, Sp> nego tu postoje i neciji umovi koji se tome protive iz ko zna kojih Sp> razloga. Ni ne pokusavam da ih shvatim... :) Isti oni koji se protive i Avramovicevom programu (nazalost su u vladi nase nesrecne zemljice), isti oni koji su pre 4 godine pokusali da ukinu informatiku iz celokupnog skolstva (za dlaku da im uspe), jer smatraju da je to sasvim nepotrebno. Isti oni koji se i dalje bore protiv progresa, protiv lepseg zivota, protiv standardizacije. To njima smeta jer tako ce se pojaviti mnogi koji su bolji od njih i koji ce ih zajebati debelo (smisli neki bolji izraz ako znas.. :) ). Posto su mahom svi vlasnici i direktori nekih velikih privatno-drzavnih firmi, kako rece moj profa organizacije (covek je car u slobodno vreme), onda prave sranja na sve strane kako bi konkurencija bila sto slabija i kako bi njihova sigurnost bila sto veca. Ljudi, bre, pa to nema NIGDE u svetu. Van svakog svetskog zakona, i sto je jos gore, van svake ljudske etike!!! pozdrav, Nidza (nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu) ... Pade mi kamen sa srca, al' upade u bubreg! --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

email.476 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic) Subject: Re: razmena sa inostranst Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:51:46 GMT ... Quoting Bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu Ba> kapaciteta... No kako je problem bio u svega par dana nadam se da Ba> ce se sve veoma brzo prebaciti u oba smera na radost sorokog Ba> auditorijuma korisnika.:) Ako mi se poruka vrati, da li to treba da znaci da ja treba ponovo da je saljem. U Svajcarsku sam slao vec dva puta poruku. Da li je to dovoljno? Tj. da li postoji sansa da ce poruka biti isporucena? ;) pozdrav, Nidza (nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu) ... Guliver mu je bio nadimak, jer je voleo da ga guli. --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) Subject: Re: email Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:06:59 GMT Miodrag Zdravkovic (mzdravkovic@sezam.UUCP) reche: /* > Instalirao sam Netscape na mnogim racunarima u mrezi, ali sam sada naisao /* >na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na racunaru koji nije u mrezi, /* >tj. nema mreznu karticu. Za off-line masine koristi nullsock. Mozesh ga naci na UBBGu a za detalje konsultuj archie servis na zmaj-u... Pozdrav, Bane ============================================================================= Branislav Subotic * Belgrade Serbia YUGOSLAVIA * bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu ============================================================================= Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic

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From: nemesis@styx.bc.co.yu (NEMESIS) Subject: RE: MAILING Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 00:04:00 +0100 ---> ?? A zasto je to toliko vazno ? Zar ne mozes kuci prvo da podelis ---> falj u arhive od po 10Kb (recimo pomocu RAR-a), pa da svaku ---> arhivu uuencodujes i ucitas u BW, napravis REP paket i to ---> posaljes na BBS ? NIje valjda da ovo nece proci kod PCB 15.21 ?!?! ---> Mislim da na taj nacin i ne mogu da provale da saljes fajlove uz ili ---> kao svoje poruke ... :> ---> Pozdrav. GRESISH SINE .. GRDNO GRESIS ... Uradish sledece sa UUCODE podelish na recimo svakih 300 Linija :)) I eto srece :))) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Ě │/\■/\ .:NemesiS:. /\■/\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\■/\ ║ │ / > NEMESIS@STYX.BC.CO.YU >:[] / \ 011\444-95-22 - 22-06 < \ ║ ď════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ ... /\ S.T.Y.X BBS /\ 011\444-95-22 /\ 22-06 /\ * ■ >:[] NemesiS ■

email.473 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: BERI@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Berislav Todorovic) Subject: Re: adresa Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:37:26 GMT DENIS@vila.bc.co.yu wrote: >> Hi! >> Jedno pitanje: moja adresa je sad >> Denis@vila.bc.co.yu >> ,a htio bi da bude >> !)enis@vila.bc.co.yu >> >> Kao sto se vidi rijec je samo o promjeni korisnickog imena >> na BBS-u, a u pitanju su karakteri koji nisu dio alfabeta. >> Da li ce biti problema ako stavim ovo novo korisnicko ime, odnosno >> da li ce biti problema pri razmjeni poste. >> Unaprijed hvala. >> CU! >> !)enis Nazalost, bice ... :-((( Mailer-i na Internetu koriste RFC 822 standard, a tamo je npr. '!' rezervisan simbol za UUCP-like rutiranje itd. Sve u svemu - adresa moze sadrzati slova, brojeva i znake _, - i (koliko se secam, ali nisam siguran) $. Pozdrav, Beri -- -------. | --+-- | Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E. | E-mail: beri@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu | /|\ UBBG System administrator | |-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419 | \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3224-430 | --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA | Fax: (+381-11) 3248-681 `-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: dzoni@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Nikola Kljukovnica) Subject: Re: email Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 10:54:36 GMT On Wed, 22 Nov 95 21:23:00 CET Miodrag Zdravkovic je napisao: -=> Instalirao sam Netscape na mnogim racunarima u mrezi, ali sam sada naisao -=> na jedan problem. Kako instalirati Netscape na racunaru koji nije u mrezi, -=> tj. nema mreznu karticu. Ne probah josh ,ali pitanje je : Mozxe li se instalirati Netscape na racunaru koji je povezan samo u novell mrezu, bez TCP-IP ja kao veze sa ichim drugim ? poshto gore pomenuti program inace startuje WINSOCK ,kako cye oni svi da se slozxe ? Moze odgovor i na mail , Hvala /'\ ==============/\./\./\./\./\./\./\./\./\./\================== | Nikola Kljukovnica + ETF + Belgrade + Yugoslavia .---. E-mail: dzoni@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu or dzoni@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu | | ============================================================== Tagline: ... I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you!

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From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic) Subject: Re: MAILING Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:53:53 GMT ... Quoting Nikola.alivojvodic%f133.n Ni> ?? A zasto je to toliko vazno ? Zar ne mozes kuci prvo da podelis Ni> falj u arhive od po 10Kb (recimo pomocu RAR-a), pa da svaku Ni> arhivu uuencodujes i ucitas u BW, napravis REP paket i to Zasto bi to radio, kad svaki pravi uuenkoder ume da deli uuenkodovani sadrzaj na segmente. :) pozdrav, Nidza (nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu) ... Mala moja moj medjede, ja te volim, nije vazno. (C) --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu (Dragan Nikolic) Subject: Re: email Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:14:36 GMT Subotic Branislav (bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote: : /* >=> #=> modemi u proseku 28800, brzi linkovi su uobicajena : /* >=> Sta kazes, u proseku 28800? ;) Koji su onda iznad proseka? : /* >ISDN u kucu za dvesta baksa. : I u Australiji je ista cifrica.:)) : Pozdrav, : Bane Kada smo kod ISDN-a imam jedno malo pitanje kolika je mogucnos da u skorijoj buducnosti to dodje i do nas. Pozdrav! //// (@ @) ____________________________oOO__(_)__OOo___________________________ | | | * S.u.S.E YU BBS * YU-FREEnet * YUDRnets | | * Pozarevac * | | * Radno vreme: * | | * od 23:00 do 07:00 * email: para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu | | * tel. +381 12 227724 * para@corona.hobbiton.co.yu | |____________________________________________________________________| -- ////

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From: DENIS@vila.bc.co.yu Subject: adresa Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:29:44 GMT Hi! Jedno pitanje: moja adresa je sad Denis@vila.bc.co.yu ,a htio bi da bude !)enis@vila.bc.co.yu Kao sto se vidi rijec je samo o promjeni korisnickog imena na BBS-u, a u pitanju su karakteri koji nisu dio alfabeta. Da li ce biti problema ako stavim ovo novo korisnicko ime, odnosno da li ce biti problema pri razmjeni poste. Unaprijed hvala. CU! !)enis ... Nijedna u magli zena nije ugly --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: Vila co.BBS ■ Prijedor_RS ■ +381 79 11 301 ■ B.C.: (95:790/113)

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From: mladen.adamovic@blbbs.elf.bl.ac.yu (MLADEN ADAMOVIC) Subject: yu.net.email FAQ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 16:27:00 -1 Ime fajla : yu.net.email/FAQ (DOS yu-email.faq) Autor : Mladen Adamović Datum : 19.11.1995. Kodni raspored : Custom2 yu.net.email FAQ by AdamM (Mladen Adamović). Custom 2 19.11.1995. (0.) O OVOM FAQ (0.1.) Äta je to FAQ? FAQ je skraćenica za engleski izraz "frequently asked questions", äto u prevodu znaüi "üesto postavljana pitanja". Dakle, FAQ je tekstualni fajl u kome se na popularan naüin daje odgovor na pitanja koja zanimaju veoma veliki broj pojedinaca. FAQ dakle, ätedi vreme i strpljenje da se svakome ponaosob da odgovor na odreöeno pitanje, a takoöer omogućava da svi koje dato pitanje interesuje dobiju kompetentan, odgovarajući i taüan odgovor. FAQ-ovi su se razvili na Internet-u (globalnoj raüunarskoj mreéi svih mreéa), i ubrzo su stekli veoma veliku popularnost. Naime, deäavalo se da u nekoj od konferencija u kojoj stiée veliki broj poruka svaki dan bude po nekoliko istih pitanja! I naravno, neko se dosetio da prikupi najüeäće postavljana pitanja, prikupi kompetentne odgovore na njih, i povremeno u tekstualnom obliku, data pitanja i odgovore äalje u konferencije. To je pokazalo izvanredan rezultat, i broj "üesto postavljanih pitanja" se mnogostruko smanjio. FAQ-ovi kasnije doéivljavaju pravu "invaziju" tako da danas imamo FAQ-ove iz nekoliko hiljada raznih oblasti. Samo je pitanje kako doći do éeljenog FAQ-a, a ne da li on postoji ;). (0.2.) Nastanak i razvoj yu.net.email FAQ Ovaj dokument je nastao 18.11.1995. kao rekapitulacija yu.net.email konferencije na YuInternet-u, kako bi se spreüilo da izvestan broj pitanja vezanih za ovu temu cirkulira, tj. periodiüno se ponavlja :). (0.3.) Status yu.net.email FAQ-a Autor ne polaée nikakvu odgovornost za posledice bilo kojeg dela dokumenta, a takoöer ne garantuje taünost iznetog materijala. Bilo koje podatke iz ovog dokumenta koristite na vaä sopstveni rizik. REPRODUKCIJA OVOG DOKUMENTA ILI BILO KOJEG NJEGOVOG DELA VAN SISTEMA POVEZANIH NA YUINTERNET JE OVOM AUTOROVOM NAZNAKOM STROGO ZABRANJENA BEZ IZRIÜITOG AUTOROVOG ODOBRENJA. (0.4.) O autoru Ime : Mladen Adamović. Moéete me kontaktirati na sledeće Email adrese (navodim ih logiükim redom) : adammÉelf.elf.bl.ac.yu mladen.adamovicÉblbbs.elf.bl.ac.yu madamovicÉsezam.co.yu Telefon 078-47-174. Autor ne polaée nikakvu odgovornost za posledice bilo kojeg dela dokumenta, a takoöer ne garantuje taünost iznetog materijala. Bilo koje podatke iz ovog dokumenta koristite na vaä sopstveni rizik. (1.) OSNOVNA PITANJA O EMAIL-U Q: Äta je to EMAIL? A: Email je elektronska poäta. MAIL na engleskom znaüi "poäta", a E je od onog "elektronical". Dakle, praktiüno email je slanje privatnih poruka preko raüunara. Üesto se u éargonu koristi i samo "mail" (umesto Email), a ponekad i samo "poruka". U suätini svi su ovi pojmovi ispravni! (2.) PITANJA O SLANJU EMAIL-A Q: Kako da poäaljem Internet poruku prijatelju u inostranstvu odavde (iz YU)? A: Postoji viäe naüina, recimo prijavljivanje na neke komercijalne sisteme koji to omogućavaju (DurLAN, Panon), slanje sa Osmeha (akademski sistem kojem imaju pristupa praktiüno svi pojedinci koji to zatraée), amaterski besplatni BBS-ovi povezani u mreéu Busy Connections, i preko nekih drugih sistema. ***** PAÉNJA: Email ***** Molimo Vas da email prema svetu koristite samo za privatnu komunikaciju. Za eventualno slanje binarnih datoteka koristite uuencode. Zabranjeno je koristiti ftp-mail servere i pretplaćivati se na mail liste. Q: Kako da poäaljem email na FIDOnet mreéu? A: Potrebno je da si korisnik nekog BBS-a koji je u Fido Net-u ili da imaä nalog na nekom fakultetskom racunaru (recimo Osmeh) sa kog je dozvoljeno slanje e-maila u inostranstvo. Za BBS sa FIDO-Netom pronaöi koja je konferencija za slanje maila baä u FIDO (obiüno postoji po jedna netmail konferencija za svaku mreéu, mada ima i drugih varijanti, najbolje da pitaä sysopa). Äaljes poruku baä onako kako si pretpostavio - na 2:381/118 itd. Kada äaljes poruku sa nekog od Internet raüunara, äaljeä je u sledećem formatu, s tim da razmake u imenu korisnika zameniä taükama (sve piäeä malim slovima): ime.prezime@f118.n381.z2.fidonet.org Primećujes da je tu nesto 'obrnuto' od redosleda pisanja u mreéama FIDO tipa, ali je jasno koji broj gde ide. Q: Imam adresu firme ISD iz kanade i njihovu adresu: 76004,2246 adresa je na COMPUSERVE-u. Super, kako da im poäaljem mail odavde (imam nalog na osmehu)? A: 76004.2246@compuserve.com Q: Greäkom sam poslao sam poruku na : user@setnte.co.yu, umesto na user@setnet.co.yu... I nećete verovati - datu poruka mi je "vratio" MAILER-DEAMON iz Grüke! Zaäto je to tako? A: Poruke za koje nema primalaca u YU odlaze u Grüku a odatle u celi svet. E sada, Pynthia (host u Grükoj preko koga ide Email iz YU), videći nastavak .yu vraća poruku na Osmeh, odakle poruka ponovo ide na Pynthiu, i posle 3 kruga (loop), Pynthia odustaje od slanja poruke i vraća je poäiljaocu. Q: Kako da sa SetNET-a poäaljem poruku na Internet (onaj pravi, a ne YU)? A: Za sada nije moguće sa SetNET-a poslati mail van Jugoslavije. Q: Kako da sa SetNET-a poäaljem mail na YUInternet? A: Moraä da traéiä na SetNET-u otvaranje YUInternet raüuna. Detaljnije o tome proüitaj u pravilniku SetNET-a kojeg moéeä da pronaöeä na svim SetNET BBS-ovima. (2.) PITANJA O PRIMANJU EMAIL-A Q: Imam naloge na viäe YUInternet raüunara, kako da napravim da mi se poruka sa npr. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu prosleöuje na osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu? A: Na većini Unix sistema postoji fajl ~/.forward u kojem napiäeä neäto tipa : adamm@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu adamm@elf.elf.bl.ac.yu i poruka ti se prosledi na navedene adrese :). (3.) DRUGA PITANJA VEZANA ZA EMAIL I SRODNE TEME Q: Ajde, pomozite - nikako da skontam kako da se sa FON-a ulogujem na OSMEH. Zovem putem modema... A: Pozoves telefonom FON. On ti ispiäe pozdravni ekran i napiäe Login> Ti otkucaä osmeh On ti ispiäe sve i svaäta, kaée da si sada na Osmehu i kaée Password> Tu udariä jedno <Enter> onda ti kaée da je password pogreäan (äto jes' - jes') i napiäe ti Login> E, tek sada kucaä svoj username i posle password. Q: Pokuäavam da se telnet-ujem na rcub, i nikako ne ide... Isto je i sa nekim drugim sistema.... Ispisuje öubre po ekranu! A: Na nekim maäinama postoji verzija telnet-a koja automatski prevodi IBM-ove karaktere i kontrolne sekvence na ASCI/ANSI. Jednostavno, umesto telnet rcub.rcub treba zadati tn3270 rcub.rcub Ovaj tn3270 postoji na galebu, za druge raüunare ne znam. Q: Jel' moée neko da poäalje spisak svih racunara Univerziteta u Bg sa njihovim adresama? A: YU-Internet hosts list je periodiüni spisak racunara na .yu domenu Interneta, a dostupan je na sledeće naüine: * Preko elektronske poäte. Poäaljite poruku na adresu malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu sa subjectom "yu-int.list". Dobićete automatski odgovor od mail-servera. * Preko sistema elektronskih konferencija u okviru news-grupe yu.net gde se svakog meseca objavi kompletna lista. * Preko FTP-a i Gophera, na raüunaru osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu, pod YUCCA. * Preko WWW, na lokacijama: http://osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu/~malisha/yu-int.list.NEW (ascii) http://osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu/~malisha/yu-int-html/INDEX.html (html) Listu ureöuje Miroslav Hristodulo pod pokroviteljstvom YUCCA -- Jugoslovenskog udruéenja za raüunarske komunikacije. ___ end_of_file -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * yu.net.email FAQ * Copyright(C) 1995. Mladen Adamović * 11.1995. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- REPRODUKCIJA OVOG DOKUMENTA ILI BILO KOJEG NJEGOVOG DELA VAN SISTEMA POVEZANIH NA YUINTERNET JE OVOM AUTOROVOM NAZNAKOM STROGO ZABRANJENA BEZ IZRIÜITOG AUTOROVOG ODOBRENJA. ... HIJERARHISKA LJESTVICA: BOG PA SRBI!!! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu (Dragan Nikolic) Subject: Re: net.internet?_jok_ja, Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 13:17:13 GMT : Inace, o FTP bi mail - sve najlepse pod uslovom da onaj ko to hoce i : plati :-))) : Pozdrav! Ovim bih se i ja slagao da plati ko zelji FTP per mail:). Samo problema je u tome ko ce se naci i regulisati to :(. Pozdrav! //// (@ @) ____________________________oOO__(_)__OOo___________________________ | | | * S.u.S.E YU BBS * YU-FREEnet * YUDRnets | | * Pozarevac * | | * Radno vreme: * | | * od 23:00 do 07:00 * email: para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu | | * tel. +381 12 227724 * para@corona.hobbiton.co.yu | |____________________________________________________________________| -- ////

email.494 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu (Dragan Nikolic) Subject: Re: Internet Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:11:37 GMT Nikola Golovic (Nikola.Golovic%f130.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu) wrote: : > : > Da li neko zna kako se moze nabaviti bar deo adresa korisnika interneta. : > Ako zna neko nesto,molim da napise.Hvala. Kao prvo neznam o kom se internetu radi a kao drugo neznam dali zelis privatne e-mail adrese ili od organizacija tj. komercijalnih ljudi. Molim te razjasni to :). Pozdrav! //// (@ @) ____________________________oOO__(_)__OOo___________________________ | | | * S.u.S.E YU BBS * YU-FREEnet * YUDRnets | | * Pozarevac * | | * Radno vreme: * | | * od 23:00 do 07:00 * email: para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu | | * tel. +381 12 227724 * para@corona.hobbiton.co.yu | |____________________________________________________________________| -- ////

email.493 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) Subject: Re: Internet Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 00:47:51 GMT Srdjan Kurtovic (srle@setnet.co.yu) reche: /* >>> Igor Salinger u poruci za All rece: /* > IS> Drugo, kako nekom ko je na adresi @cosmos-uk.org da posaljem par /* > IS> fajlova (*.GIF najverovatnije)? Ima li neki "normalniji" nacin ili mora /* > IS> da ide sa onim progranmom "UNENCODE" ili kako li vec zove? /* > Koliko ja znam mozes sa UUENCODE i to ce 100% da ode ... nazalost ne /* >znam za ostale :( "Najnormalnije" je pomocu UUENCODE ili MIME ili BIN-HEX..:))) Samo obrati paznju prilikom slanja da izdelish taj veci file u neke sitnije delove radi lakseg "gutanja" prilikom razmene maila... Pozdrav, Bane ============================================================================= Branislav Subotic * Belgrade Serbia YUGOSLAVIA * bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu ============================================================================= ... U nasem plemenu nema vise ljudozdera. Juce smo pojeli poslednjeg !!!

email.492 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: twiddle@magic.bc.co.yu (Slobodan Markovic) Subject: Pogresan E-mail? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 21:13:31 CET This reply is addressed TO: All SK> Pazi ja samo poslao greskom na ?@setnte.co.yu i zamisli poruku mi je SK> vratio DEAMON iz Grcke i onda jos neko kaze da poruke sa setnet SK> domain_om ne mogu da idu na svjetski Internet nego samo na YUInternet. BR> Mail koji posaljes na BILO sta prvo proveri (na fonu i ubbgu) da li BR> ima gde da ide. On je pogledao setnte.co.yu, nije nigde to nasao i BR> otiso je za pythiu (posto za pythiu ide sve sto nema gde da ide). Onda BR> je pythia to videla i videla je ono .co.yu i poslala ga nazad na fon A zar nije jednostavnije (brze i jeftinije) da se na masini koja komunicira sa pythiom proverava da li postoji neka poruka adresirana na *.yu? Ako se takva poruka nadje u SPOOL-u za inostranstvo, ocito je pogresno adresirana i ne salje se za dzabe u Grcku, vec se vrati posaljiocu. Jeste da je link sa Grckom prilicno brz, ali... Pozdrav, . . + . . | | . . + . . . --*-- Slobodan Markovic --*-- . . . | Twiddle | . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . | Twiddle | --*-- . . . twiddle@magic.bc.co.yu . . . --*-- . | . + . . + . | . ... Misljenje je kao dupe, svako ima pravo na svoje. #! rnews 1105

email.491 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: BERI@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Berislav Todorovic) Subject: Re: S'a bre ovo oc'e? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:57:01 GMT Slavoljub Filipovic (sf@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu) wrote: >> Ej , ljudi... ajde ko se razume nek mi objasni sta se dogodilo sa >> ovom porukom, tj. sta se dogodilo sa mojom porukom na ovom cvoru.... Na koju adresu si slao poruku? da li na xxx@arnes.si ili, pak na: fica@st.nepean.uws.edu.au. U svakom slucaju, ovo je veoma zanimljiva poruka, jer sadrzi vise delova: 1. Standardno RFC 822 zaglavlje: >> From postmaster@arnes.si >> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:29:21 +0100 >> From: postmaster@arnes.si >> To: sf@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu >> Subject: WARNING: message delayed at "arnes.si" 2. Objasnjenje Postmastera iz Slovenije (postmaster@kanin.arnes.si): >> Your message, >> ID <14D1E400D78@mordor.kud-fp.si> >> UA-ID Re: Forwarded... >> has not yet been delivered to the following recipients: 3. Poslednji deo je narocito zanimljiv, jer se u celu igru uplece X.400: >> E-mail: postmaster@arnes.si >> C=si; ADMD=mail; PRMD=ac; O=arnes; S=postmaster; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ C = Country ; ADMD = ADministrative Management Domain ; PRMD = PRivate Management Domain ; O = Organization ; S = subject (?). E, sad ostaje pitanje: da li si postu slao direktno u Australiju ili si koristio forward preko Slovenije? Pozdrav, Beri -------. | --+-- | Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E. | E-mail: beri@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu | /|\ UBBG System administrator | |-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419 | \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3224-430 | --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA | Fax: (+381-11) 3248-681 `-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------

email.490 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) Subject: Re: email Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:53:16 GMT Berislav Todorovic (BERI@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU) reche: /* >PTT je nabavio deo opreme (pre sankcija) za N-ISDN. Novije Alcatel-ove /* >centrale nude mogucnost N-ISDN prikljucaka. No, ta stvar se jos uvek /* >ne nudi sirokim narodnim masama. Zasto? Pitajte u PTT-u! /* >Inace, sto se cene tice, ne ocekujte da ce to kod nas da kosta $200, /* >vec najmanje pet puta toliko ... :-((( UH, bice jos to dobro ako bude i toliko.:)))) Pozdrav, Bane ============================================================================= Branislav Subotic * Belgrade Serbia YUGOSLAVIA * bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu ============================================================================= ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!

email.489 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) Subject: Re: email Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:51:38 GMT Dragan Nikolic (para@suse.hobbiton.co.yu) reche: /* > Kada smo kod ISDN-a imam jedno malo pitanje kolika je mogucnos da u /* >skorijoj buducnosti to dodje i do nas. /* > Pozdrav! Zdravo.. To vec postoji kod nas al je namenjeno za interni PTT saobracaj odnosno za trasiranje veceg PTT saobracaja... Kada ce to biti dostupno smrtnicima? Uh, sacekajmo josh malo (x *** godina).:)) Pozdrav, Bane ============================================================================= Branislav Subotic * Belgrade Serbia YUGOSLAVIA * bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu ============================================================================= Why can't women put the toilet seat back up?

email.499 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: Sasa.Sekulic%f110.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Sasa Sekulic) Subject: mailing Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 20:46:24 SS> Inace, za nasu drzavu je 100.000DM prilicno mnogo, jer da nije, mi bi SS> imali daleko vise Interneta nego sto ga imamo (telefonske linije na SS> fon-u i rcub-u, npr.) SP> Da, ali slazem se sa Damirom da nije problem samo u tih 100 000, SP> nego tu postoje i neciji umovi koji se tome protive iz ko zna kojih SP> razloga. Ni ne pokusavam da ih shvatim... :) Kao sto rekoh, ovaj sadasnji provajder je 4x skuplji od onog drugog. Sta mislis, sta se desava sa razlikom? Dok god nam se posta i dobijanje linije zasniva na "razlikama", dotle cemo biti ovdje gdje jesmo. A bicemo ovdje duuuuugooooo... mad.max ... Trust me - I know what I'm doing! * Origin: # New Age # 22-08h # Beograd # SETNet: (38:103/110)

email.500 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: Sasa.Sekulic%f110.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Sasa Sekulic) Subject: mailing Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 20:50:42 KN> From: EKRAJNOV@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Krajnovic Nenad) KN> Mislim da nije u redu ovako optuzivati bez konkretnih dokaza. KN> ...Sto se tice linija do fon-a, rcub-a,... problem KN> je kod poste. Zahtevi za nove linije su odavno podneti. Onog momenta KN> kad se te linije dobiju, bice i prikljucene. KN> Mislim da je prilicno neodgovorno za opisanu situaciju kriviti KN> administratore YUInternet-a jer su oni najmanje krivi. Sorry ako je ispalo pogresno shvaceno; naime, problem nije u administratorima mreze, nego onima "iznad". A ovo za linije, pa, Sezam ima linija koliko hoce, ali, sa druge strane, oni su *platili* (i to ne normalnu cijenu od 800 din za liniju), a nasa mreza, nazalost, zivi od drzavne milostinje, a svi znamo kako sada zive penzioneri... mad.max ... I'll be right back! Godot * Origin: # New Age # 22-08h # Beograd # SETNet: (38:103/110)

email.501 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: Sasa.Sekulic%f110.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Sasa Sekulic) Subject: mailing Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 20:53:44 SB> From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) /* >Mislim da je prilicno neodgovorno za opisanu situaciju kriviti SB> administratore /* >YUInternet-a jer su oni najmanje krivi. SB> Vecina administratora YuInterneta je volonterski prisla celom SB> problemu i zaslugom drzave, ovih ljudi i drugih stvorena je danas SB> kakva takva akademska mreza u YU. Problema ima puno al izgleda da je u SB> nasem mentalitetu da optuzujemo one najblize...:( Kao sto rekoh, jos jednom se izvinjavam posto je recenica bila malo nezgodno srocena. Dakle, problem nije u administratorima (inace svega ovoga ne bi ni bilo), nego u onima drugima... mad.max ... Loading WIN 95... Want some coffee? * Origin: # New Age # 22-08h # Beograd # SETNet: (38:103/110)

email.502 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: Gating Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:07:16 Slobodan Utvic said: RN> From: madmaxx@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Robert Nemet) RN> Newsgroups: yu.humor.vic RN> Organization: Fakultet Organizacionih Nauka, Beograd SU> Prvo cemu sluze ove tri linije gore ??????? SU> Jel to mora toliko !!!!!! To smo namestili da se ubacuje u svaku poruku koja u SETNet dolazi sa YUInterneta da bi se znalo o cemu se tacno radi. Te tri informacije su vazne: YUINternet adresa pisca (u hederu poruke stoji njegovo ime a ne adresa), koja je neophodna ako zelis da autoru posaljes mail; ime konferencije kako se zove na YUInternet-u (jer se kod nas zovu drugacije); i treci podatak je naziv organizacije odakle je poruka, sto se cesto svodi na ime racunara na kome je poruka napisana. To dodje nesto kao Origin linija u SETNet-u. Mozemo da namestimo da se u poruku upisuje i mnogo vise informacija, ali smatramo da je to nepotebno za korisnike i da ce samo da povecava pakete bez velike svrhe. RN> ! Origin: SETNet - BeoInternet most ->...<- (38:103/120.0) SU> A cemu i ovo sluzi !!! Pa da znate da je poruka koju citate sa YUInterneta. To je origin Gateway-a prema YUINternet-u. Ima istu funkciju kao i origin svakog drugog BBS-a. Gateway je ukratko racunar na kome se vrsi konverzija poste izmedju dve mreze. On poruke pisane po protokolu jedne mreze prilagodjava protokolu druge mreze i obrnuto. Njime obezbedjuje 100% kompatibilnost poruka u obe mreze. Nadam se da ti je ovo bilo dovoljno objasnjenje. Broker ########## ######################################################## # SETNet - THE ART OF COMMUNICATIONS # ########## ################################ broker@setnet.co.yu ### * Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)

email.504 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: orsa@setnet.co.yu (Orlic Nenad) Subject: YU-Internet hosts lis Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:05:08 █Š Vladislav rece All o YU-Internet hosts lis sledece: Šč█ VP> Ma nema... vi sa SetNet-a bi se samo sa nekim razracunavali! I ja sam sa SetNet-a, pa 'oces mi reci sa kim sam se razracunavao? Aman ljudi sit sam toga da u konferencijama palite vatru i da pritome vredjate ljude koje nemaju veze sa vama. Ako je neko agresivan onda je to i jos par stotina njih??? * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

email.505 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic) Subject: Pogresan E-mail? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:33:07 SM> From: twiddle@magic.bc.co.yu (Slobodan Markovic) SM> Newsgroups: yu.net.email SM> BR> Mail koji posaljes na BILO sta prvo proveri (na fonu i ubbgu) da li SM> BR> ima gde da ide. On je pogledao setnte.co.yu, nije nigde to nasao i SM> BR> otiso je za pythiu (posto za pythiu ide sve sto nema gde da ide). Onda SM> BR> je pythia to videla i videla je ono .co.yu i poslala ga nazad na fon SM> A zar nije jednostavnije (brze i jeftinije) da se na masini koja SM> komunicira sa pythiom proverava da li postoji neka poruka adresirana SM> na *.yu? SM> Ako se takva poruka nadje u SPOOL-u za inostranstvo ocito je pogresno SM> adresirana i ne salje se za dzabe u Grcku, vec se vrati posaljiocu. Nije ocito da je adresa pogresna. Sta ako u spisku domaina ima neka greeska koja se u medjuvremenu ispravi? Ili se doda neki racunar, a ne stignu svi da ga upisu u spisak? * Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)

email.506 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: mladen.adamovic@blbbs.elf.bl.ac.yu (MLADEN ADAMOVIC) Subject: Re: Gating Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 23:53:00 -1 -+=+- Slobodan Utvic rece : -+=+- RN> Newsgroups: yu.humor.vic SU> Jos uvek mi nije jasno cemu ovo sluzi jer ja njemu i onako Zaglavlje se ne moze promeniti. Ne moze bez navedene tri linije. ... XjhgwaduiwueoqimnBDDDDKJSBMN! <--Tag created on Pentium ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

email.507 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: mladen.adamovic@blbbs.elf.bl.ac.yu (MLADEN ADAMOVIC) Subject: Re: Internet Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 23:53:00 -1 -+=+- Srdjan Kurtovic rece : -+=+- IS> Drugo, kako nekom ko je na adresi @cosmos-uk.org da posaljem par IS> fajlova (*.GIF najverovatnije)? Ima li neki "normalniji" nacin ili mora IS> da ide sa onim progranmom "UNENCODE" ili kako li vec zove? SK> Koliko ja znam mozes sa UUENCODE i to ce 100% da ode ... nazalost SK> ne znam za ostale :( PCBOARD, uzmes pridruzivanje fajla za poruku, i to automatski ode putem interneta. Znaci, Igore, nazovi neki od BC BBS-ova i uzivaj! ... Covek je nase najvece blago ! Ljudozde ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

email.508 postmast, 26 Nov 95

From: mladen.adamovic@blbbs.elf.bl.ac.yu (MLADEN ADAMOVIC) Subject: Re: MAILING Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 23:53:00 -1 -+=+- Vojislav Mihailovic rece : -+=+- VM> UUEncode-ovane poruke, ali... Stize mi golila slika od jednog VM> inostranog dopisnika Sveta kompjutera, uuencode-ovano, ali necim sto VM> nije dovoljno kompatibilno. Ne znam koji je to program (on koristi VM> Eudoru za Windows, mozda je odatle), ali on dobro radi sa obicnim 1. Najlakse je da taj dopisnik predje na cisti UU(de)CODE. 2. Ako ti to mnogo zamara, prijavi BAG CDC-u, najbolje u FIDO konferenciji PCBOARD. 3. Ako ti treba neko prelazno resenje, uradi ovako - preduhitri poruku prilikom UUCP razmene i rucno je UUDECODE. Pozdrav, Mladen Adamovic. ... Gorim od zelje da sidjem sa lomache ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12