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baze.podataka.203 dvesic, 05 Oct 96 -> #198, mmarkovic

> Dakle, siguran si (i dvesic koji pomenu CURSOR, što je standardni > način pristupa selekciji) da smo se razumeli? > Pokrenem upit na serveru, i DOK ON JOŠ TRAJE prikazujem na klijent > računaru red po red odgovora. > Po potrebi PREKINEM OBRADU NA SERVERU. Ajde jedan kratak primer ;) (izostavljene su uobičajene kontrole, radi lakšeg praćenja. // Definicija upita; na serveru se još ništa ne dešava DECLARE SelCust CURSOR FOR SELECT Name, Id, Adress FROM Customer WHERE Id > 100; // Otvaranje kurzora. Početak obrade OPEN SelCust; lb_Ok = TRUE // Petlja za obradu While lb_Ok // Pokupi slog FETCH SelCust INTO :ls_Name, :ln_Id, :ls_Adress; lb_Ok = (SqlCa.SQLCode = 0) // SqlCa.SQLCode = 100 znači da su svi slogovi pokupljeni IF lb_Ok THEN // Obrada sloga END IF End While // Kraj obrade CLOSE SelCust; Sva kontrola je tvoja. U svakom trenutku možeš iskočiti iz petlje i prekinuti obradu (Close). Sad smo se razumeli ?

baze.podataka.204 jmiodrag, 06 Oct 96 -> #154, mmarkovic

>> Kod DOS-Novell kombinacije sa Access Serverom, preko zice idu samo >> ekrani i otkucaji na tastaturi (kao TeleReplica ili PC Anywhere)... Ovo mi treba.Gde to ima i pod kojim se imenom tacno prodaje.

baze.podataka.205 mmarkovic, 06 Oct 96 -> #203, dvesic

1. > // Definicija upita; na serveru se još ništa ne dešava > > DECLARE SelCust CURSOR FOR > SELECT Name, Id, Adress > FROM Customer > WHERE Id > 100; Dakle, ovo je na serveru? Kod je trenutno u programu-klijentu, ali će biti prosleđen serveru da ga on odradi? Mogu li ovo da definišem kao "stored procedure", da ima parametre, i da stalno stoji na serveru? 2. Znači, SqlCa.SQLCode = 0 znači "možda ima još", a SqlCa.SQLCode = 100 znači "gotovo! završena obrada-upit" ? 3. OPEN SelCust - pokreće upit-obradu na serveru CLOSE SelCust - trenutno prekida obradu-upit na serveru ? > Sad smo se razumeli ? Mislim da jesmo.

baze.podataka.206 mmarkovic, 06 Oct 96 -> #204, jmiodrag

> >> Kod DOS-Novell kombinacije sa Access Serverom, preko zice > >> idu samo ekrani i otkucaji na tastaturi (kao TeleReplica ili > PC Anywhere)... > > Ovo mi treba.Gde to ima i pod kojim se imenom tacno prodaje. Program se zove Access Server, prodaje ga Novell, mada nije njihov proizvod, ali su kupili licencu. To mu je tačno ime. Funkcioniše sa NetWare-om 3.11 i 3.12. Verovatno i sa 4.x. Nema razloga da ne funkcioniše. Na jednoj od stanica se instalira ovaj software, WNIM (ili beše WNIM+) kartica. Ovo je kartica sa 4 serijska porta. Nažalost, ne funkcioniše sa običnim COM portovima. Ostali smo bez uputstva, ali WNIM nije jedina kartica koja može da se koristi, bile su još neke. Ova kartica je bila dosta skupa (par hiljada DEM). Na ta 4 porta kačiš eksterne modeme i vodiš na komutirane ili iznajmljene linije. U računar možeš da staviš do 4 WNIM kartice, dakle 16 spoljnjih stanica. Access Server blisko sarađuje sa DesqView multitasking software-om sa kojim ide u paketu. Svaki task, a i ceo paket, radi pod DOS-om 3.30 Što više memorije imaš, može da pristupi više stanica. Sa 4MB mogu dve istovremeno. Mošto je ta stanica u LAN-u, nema nikakvog usporenja. Ako je u pitanju brži računar, operateri mogu čak osetiti i ubrzanje. Za poziv se koristi poseban program (ide u paketu), mada, kao može i recimo Telemate. Nama nije uspelo sa običnim kom.programima, ali nismo se nešto ni trudili. Ovaj vrši pos'o ;) Ide i program za fajl transfer, mada dosta slab. Srećom, fajl transfer u ovim situacijama obično nije primaran.

baze.podataka.207 peacock, 08 Oct 96 -> #201, nensky

#### Ima li zainteresovanih za grupasenje na temu CLARION-a? Ima :)

baze.podataka.208 dvesic, 09 Oct 96 -> #205, mmarkovic

> > DECLARE SelCust CURSOR FOR > > SELECT Name, Id, Adress > > FROM Customer > > WHERE Id > 100; > > Dakle, ovo je na serveru? Kod je trenutno u programu-klijentu, ali > će biti prosleđen serveru da ga on odradi? U principu je upit u programu/klijentu, ali se preko odbc/native drajvera prosleđuje serveru. > Mogu li ovo da definišem kao "stored procedure", da ima parametre, > i da stalno stoji na serveru? Postoji i ta varijanta, ali praktično se ništa ne dobija; razlika između vremena potrebnog za slanje ovog upita serveru i poziva SP je dovoljno mala da bi to bio razlog za korišćenje SP-a. Naravno, smeštanje Bussines Rules na server su sasvim druga priča, i tu bi ovo poglavlje imalo posebno mesto. > 2. Znači, > > SqlCa.SQLCode = 0 znači "možda ima još", a > SqlCa.SQLCode = 100 znači "gotovo! završena obrada-upit" ? Da. SQLCode=0 znači da je operacija (FETCH) prošla uspešno; 100 znači da nema više slogova koji zadovoljavaju dati uslov.

baze.podataka.209 nimi, 24 Oct 96 -> #199, mmarkovic

> Radnim danom ima oko 1000 transakcija (jedna transakcija sadrzi > i dugovnu i potraznu stranu). Nekim posebnim danima u mesecu > (obracuni kamate,...) ima i desetak hiljada transakcija. > Sve u svemu, recimo 400-500.000 transakcija godisnje. Otprilike. > Prelazak na ORACLE je pre svega zbog ugradivanja poslovnih > pravila u bazu. Sumnjam da cemo u performansama nesto dobiti. > Clipper je alat niskog nivoa, i, pravilnom upotrebom, postovanjem > osnovnih pravila u definisanju baze, moze se napraviti veoma > efikasna aplikacija. >> Kupi ga u Nis pa neces da placas :))). Dugo se nisam javljao :(, obacveze :)). Pre par dana (10-ak) sam na Estrella (Bull-ova verzija PowerPC) sa 64MB RAM-a, 3*2.1GB diska u tabelu prometa ucitao 320.000 zapisa (cca 50-ak MB). Nad tabelom su bila podignuta sva poslovna pravila, indeksi, ... Proces je trajao 27 minuta. Napominjem da SQL*Loader kojim je vrseno punjenje nije posebno optimizovan, odnosno uzeti su sve default parametri ukljucujuci i taj da posle svakih 64 zapisa izvrsi commit. Dodatna napomena je da datoteka nije bila sortirana ili slicno. Inace odgovori na petocifren deo konta (od 11) bio je trenutan. Scan tabele sa izracunavanjem (zavrsni list) radio je za 20-ak sec. Mislim da ce tvojih 400 000 do 500 000 da izdrzi :)). > Adresa? Telefon? Uskoro planiram da posetim Nis :))).

baze.podataka.210 mmarkovic, 25 Oct 96 -> #209, nimi

> Dugo se nisam javljao :(, obacveze :)). Ako, ako... Kad ima obaveza, ima i love :))) > Inace odgovori na petocifren deo konta (od 11) bio je trenutan. > Scan tabele sa izracunavanjem (zavrsni list) radio je za 20-ak sec. Koliko ova tabela ima zapisa i kolika je? > Mislim da ce tvojih 400 000 do 500 000 da izdrzi :)). I meni se čini! > Uskoro planiram da posetim Nis :))). Radujem se :))) --------------- Komparacija: ORACLE vs PROGRESS? Imate li iskustva sa oba?

baze.podataka.211 mmarkovic, 25 Oct 96 -> #209, nimi

> Pre par dana (10-ak) sam na Estrella (Bull-ova verzija PowerPC) > sa 64MB RAM-a, 3*2.1GB diska u tabelu prometa ucitao 320.000 > zapisa (cca 50-ak MB). Nad tabelom su bila podignuta sva > poslovna pravila, indeksi, ... Proces je trajao 27 minuta. Zaboravih... Koji OS, koji ORACLE?

baze.podataka.212 .ken., 28 Oct 96

Potrebna pomoc: Krivac: Oracle verzija 5 Povredjeni: jedna moja vrlo dobra drugarica Problem: S vremena na vreme dolazi u stvari do dva problema. Jedan je da dolazi do mrtvih stanja kada Oracle se sam od sebe zaglupi (problem pokusan da se resi tako da se u FORMS-u pokusa promeniti redosled otvaranja relacija (tabela).Problem delimicno ublazen ali nije i eliminisan) Drugi problem je da (opet s vremena na vreme) dodje do zakljucavanja odredjenih polja (ROW) i da ne znamo kako da ih otkljucamo a da ne rusimo sistem (COMMIT i ROLLBACK iz SQLPLUSA ne rade svoj posao). Znaci dodje do zakljucavanja polja i oni u ODS se vide kao EXCLUSIVE i to polje ostaje zakljucano do rusenja sistema). P.S. - na zalost ne postoji mogucnost (materijalna a i ostale) da se predje na neku drugu verzi nr-SYPdrav Ken

baze.podataka.213 nimi, 28 Oct 96 -> #210, mmarkovic

> Koliko ova tabela ima zapisa i kolika je? To je ona napunjena loader-om (320.000) Pozdrav Milan

baze.podataka.214 nimi, 28 Oct 96 -> #211, mmarkovic

> Zaboravih... Koji OS, koji ORACLE? AIX 3.x (IBM-ov UNIX 12% ukupnog UNIX trzista, sto je znatno vise od sledeceg konkurenta) Oracle7 (7.1.7.x) za AIX

baze.podataka.215 mmarkovic, 29 Oct 96 -> #213, nimi

>> Koliko ova tabela ima zapisa i kolika je? > To je ona napunjena loader-om (320.000) Neverovatno! 50 MB u 20 sec! 2.5 MB/sec sa obradom... (ili ipak ne čita celu tabelu, nego nešto preskače?) Mislio sam da su u toj datoteci transakcije, a da su se te brojke odnosile na datoteku stanja. Kakve diskove ima to čudo? Vezane u RAID? Stvarno brzo...

baze.podataka.216 velicko, 29 Oct 96 -> #212, .ken.

> na neku drugu verzi nr-SYPdrav A šta je to SYPdrav?

baze.podataka.217 nenad, 29 Oct 96 -> #214, nimi

> AIX 3.x (IBM-ov UNIX 12% ukupnog UNIX trzista, sto > je znatno vise od sledeceg konkurenta) > > Oracle7 (7.1.7.x) za AIX Eh, AIX... U tom slučaju je mašina bar neki PowerPC, ako ne i RS/6000. ;)

baze.podataka.218 nenad, 30 Oct 96

Informix extends servers with replication, central management Informix Software Inc. will help database administrators (DBAs) stay on top of distributed database environments by adding heterogeneous replication, enterprise management, and expanded Web access to its line of relational databases, the company announced Tuesday. The Informix Comprehensive Replication software will come in two versions set for release by the end of the year. The first will address only Informix databases and is aimed at smaller, workgroup sites. It will support publish and subscribe replication across Informix OnLine Workstation, OnLine Workgroup Server, and OnLine Dynamic Server. Branch managers will be able, for example, to subscribe to data from a central site or publish data to a central location. The software includes a Windows 95 setup Wizard to guide users in establishing replication policies. Informix will also offer an enterprise version of the replication software that will support peer-to-peer replication with a cross-platform option. In this model, all data changes on a single server can be propagated throughout the network. For peer-to-peer replication across IBM, Sybase Inc., Oracle Corp., and Microsoft Corp. platforms, users will be able to purchase Praxis International Inc.'s OmniReplicator from Informix. The OmniReplicator option will cost $595 per user. The other replication software will be offered at no extra charge. Analysts said the more sophisticated and cross-platform replication is needed. "[Informix] is rounding out their product line here," said Nagraj Alur, a principal analyst at Database Associates, in Morgan Hill, Calif. "IBM has Data Propagator, and Oracle has their Symmetric Replication product." In enterprise management, Informix has added a central DBA console and an SNMP management information base (MIB) to its OnLine family of servers. The MIB will allow network managers to directly monitor Informix database performance from management platforms, including Computer Associates International Inc.'s Unicenter, IBM's Tivoli Management Environment, Hewlett-Packard Co.'s OpenView, and Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solstice. Informix's own console, the Informix Enterprise Command Center (IECC), which communicates via the Internet InterORB protocol, will give DBAs a single point from which to mange multiple Informix databases. "Whenever you have distributed databases, you need a single point of control," Alur said. "We shall wait with baited breath to see how well it performs." IECC uses CORBA agents deployed on the distributed servers to perform DBA tasks. It will be bundled with the database for free within six months. The console gives users two interface options: they can manage through a standard Windows application or download a Java applet that will open a management interface from a Web browser. Informix is also extending support for Netscape Communications Corp.'s Enterprise Server and Navigator browser across the entire OnLine server line. The Workgroup Server is bundled with Netscape software, and Informix's OnLine Dynamic Server and Extended Parallel Server with Enterprise Server and Navigator are available immediately. Pricing was not available.

baze.podataka.219 nenad, 30 Oct 96

Sybase extends SQL Server functions to Web publishing Sybase Inc. on Tuesday introduced a strategy to allow users to create database-driven Web sites based on a new version of the Sybase SQL Server, code-named "Sybase SQL Server Professional." The new server will give users a way to manage content in databases and on Web sites, by helping database administrators manage the Web using the tools and skills they have instead of having to learn new ones for the new platform, officials said. Included in "Professional" is NetImpact Dynamo, a Web application server which generates and updates dynamic HTML and publishes information from the database directly onto the Web. It will be integrated with Sybase SQL Server 11, giving administrators a server which will manage both the database and Web aspects of the system, as well as storing all of the Web content in the database. Dynamo supports both the Netscape API and the Microsoft Internet Information Server API, and with wizards, lets developers create HTML pages with embedded SQL statements and scripts that serve as templates. Also included are sample sites, a template gallery, and a built-in scripting language that is compatible with JavaScript. Tools to help database managers with design, replication, management, performance monitoring, and query and reporting are also in the package. Sybase SQL Server Professional will be available for Windows NT and major Unix platforms by the end of the year. Pricing has not yet been announced.

baze.podataka.220 nimi, 02 Nov 96 -> #215, mmarkovic

> 50 MB u 20 sec! 2.5 MB/sec sa obradom... > (ili ipak ne cita celu tabelu, nego nesto preskace?) Ne nepreskace, cita svaku promenu vidi da li je zaduzenje ili odobrenje, deo pocetnog stanja (nalog broj 1) ili je obican sve sabere u odgovarajuci zbir i prikaze rezultat. > Kakve diskove ima to cudo? Vezane u RAID? Ne, mi smo siromasni :))), diskovi su SCSI II Pozdrav Milan

baze.podataka.221 velicko, 06 Nov 96

REPLY NA PCPROG.6:windows 4.115 > Hajde napiši ovde reč dve o tome šta je Oracle Power Objects, i > prednosti i mane u odnosu na konkurenciju. Nemam vremena da napišem samo reč dve.. So, sorry zbog rasplinjavanja. Oracle Power Objects je Oraclova vizuelna alatka za kreiranje aplikacija za rad sa bazama podataka. Aktuelna verzija 1.0.16 C Minimalni zahtevi: za razvoj: 486 8 MB za izvršavanje: 386 4 MB ( ja ipak ne preporučujem ispod 486 sa 8 MB ) Na disku zauzima oko 30 MB Gotova aplikacija se isporučuje uz runtime modul, i zauzima najmanje 2 disete. Aplikacija se interpretira.... Sastoji se iz 2 komponente, za sada blisko povezane: - Vizuelnog alata - baze podataka BLAZE Vizuelni alat: _____________ Oracle je pokupio lepe stvari iz Visual Basica i Delphy-ja. Rad je klasičan. Kreiraju se forme, lepe se komponente. Nasleđivanje se maximalno koristi gde god je moguće.. ( čak je i to vizuelno lepo predstavljeno ). Pisanje jednostavnih efektnih aplikacija je veoma lako. Primer: Adresar, koji koristi nekoliko tabela u relaciji, sa pretraživanjima, izveštajima, (lepo izgleda) napisao sam za 2 sata ( + 2 sata šminkanja ). Ništa posebno, osim što je to bilo pri mom prvom susretu sa OPO alatom. Da, možda treba pomenuti da je ukucano svega nekoliko linija koda uz neke akcije.. Iza svega stoji Oracle Power Basic (pojačan visual basic). Kroz sintaksu jezika se vidi da je maximalno prilagođen radu sa bazama podataka. Postoji execSQL komanda kojom šaljemo SQL upit bazi podataka, brdo funkcija koje podržavaju data store objekte... Mane: Iz OPO-a je nemoguće kreirati sopstvene komponente. Moguće je nasleđivanje postojećih, i ubacivanje OCX komponenti, ali sam razvoj "od nule" nije moguć. Kod se interpretira. Doduše nije spoooro, ali je moglo biti brže. Ima dosta bugova. Lično sam naleteo na nekoliko, ali su oni ipak bili dokumentovani, i laki za prevazilaženje... Editor u kome se kuca kod programa je loš. Baza podataka BLAZE ____________________ OPO ima native drajvere za Oracle i Microsoft SQL server. Za potrebe razvoja uz OPO stiže i osakaćena ORACLE baza, koju je Oracle nazvao BLAZE. Blaze "guta" sve što bi moglo da se pošalje i Oracke database serveru, međutim u ovoj verziji na neke poruke ne reaguje nikakvom akcijom. :( Ne rade STORED PROCEDURES (ali ih ipak čuva), indeksi rade samo po jednom polju... :(( Prilično nezgodan bug je i to što je nemoguće promeniti strukturu tabele koja u sebi sadrži podatke. ( SQL insert from radi )... Pre razočarenja: ___________________ Ovaj paket u ovoj verziji NEMA preporuku od strane Oracle korporacije. Ne preporučuju upotrebu OPO-a za rad na većim projektima i svesni su većine bagova u paketu. Ovih dana treba da se pojavi nova verzija koja će biti mnogo jača i stabilnija. Po njima OPO treba da zameni brdo alata koji stižu uz Oracle. Navodno hoće da izbace Oracle FORMS.... Umesto BLAZE baze isporučivaće ORACLE LITE. koji je naslednik Personal Oracle paketa. Bez obzira na ovakav stav Oracla, lično bih se usudio da manje aplikacije odradim u OPO-u. Još jednom sorry zbog ovkvog izlaganja... Pitajte šta vas zanima....

baze.podataka.222 bceklic, 13 Nov 96

Ima li koga ko radi u clairon-u za dos? (mail)

baze.podataka.223 sale.car, 14 Nov 96 -> #222, bceklic

Bc> Ima li koga ko radi u clairon-u za dos? (mail) Obrati se nensky-u da te ubaci u grupu... Ima nas dosta :) ... Pozdrav, Sale.Car

baze.podataka.224 bceklic, 14 Nov 96 -> #223, sale.car

> Bc> Ima li koga ko radi u clairon-u za dos? (mail) > Obrati se nensky-u da te ubaci u grupu... > Ima nas dosta :) Ne radim u clarion-u, treba mi samo nekoliko informacija koje su bitne za programe na kojima radim.

baze.podataka.225 sasab, 20 Nov 96

Potreban program za hotelijerstvo. Dragan Petrović, tel. 027/81-610, 81-611

baze.podataka.226 river, 20 Nov 96 -> #225, sasab

Potreban program za vođenje sutr-a (samostalno ugostiteljska trgovinska radnja). Prednost imaju programi proverenog kvaliteta (bez ikakvih bagova), koji su već istestirani.

baze.podataka.228 whitie, 10 Jan 97

Za potrebe jednog P.Bilder 4. programa potrebni "rikvest" drajveri za WFWG. Drajveri za W95 su istog imena po su preorali jedni druge. Radi se o ODBC drajverima: pbodbc040.dll , pbobbc040.ini i pbodbcm40.dll.

baze.podataka.229 coda, 12 Jan 97

Potreban programer za izradu aplikacije u Visual Basic-u. Program treba da radi pod Windows-ima, komunicira sa COM portom, daje graficki prikaz, formira bazu, itd. ma se coda

baze.podataka.230 djale, 19 Jan 97

Ako neko ima knjigu u izdanju Mikroknjige od Alana Simpsona ACCESS 2 molio bih da mi se javi radi kopiranja iste Hvala Darko

baze.podataka.231 djale, 26 Jan 97

Narode dali neko zna kako se ACCESS-u radi EXE fajl Takodje me zanima ako neko ima kakvu dobru knjigu da se dogovorimo oko kopiranja HVALA Darko

baze.podataka.232 dr.grba, 27 Jan 97 -> #231, djale

>> Narode dali neko zna kako se ACCESS-u radi EXE fajl Access ne može da napravi EXE fajl. Postoji runtime modul koji se isporučuje uz Access Developer's Kit, koji nije baš jeftin.

baze.podataka.233 madamov, 30 Jan 97 -> #232, dr.grba

> Access ne može da napravi EXE fajl. Postoji runtime modul koji se > isporučuje uz Access Developer's Kit, koji nije baš jeftin. A da li postoji neki kompajler za Access? Naime, na Macu imam sličan proizvod (kada vidim Access na PC-u ne mogu se oteti utisku da su neke fazone pozajmili od 4D-a) koji se takođe oslanja na runtime, koji se dobija sa uz 4D i dozvoljeno ga je deliti uz razvijene aplikacije (u ranijim verzijama je svaki korisnik morao da kupi svoj runtime), ali postoji kompajler koji se posebno kupuje i skuplji je skoro dvostruko od kompletnog proizvoda za razvoj baza. Nisam imao prilike da ga lično probam, ali prema tvrdnjama Amerikanaca sa mailing liste kompajler stvar ubrzava drastično, neke operacije i do nekoliko hiljada puta. Da ne govorim o prednosti kreiranja nezavisnih aplikacija.

baze.podataka.234 dr.grba, 31 Jan 97 -> #233, madamov

>> A da li postoji neki kompajler za Access? Naime, na Macu imam sličan >> ... >> mailing liste kompajler stvar ubrzava drastično, neke operacije i do >> nekoliko hiljada puta. Da ne govorim o prednosti kreiranja nezavisnih >> aplikacija. Nije mi poznato da postoji takav kompajler za Access. To, u neku ruku, ne bi ni imalo mnogo smisla: Access ipak nije zamišljen za takve namene. To što je (i te kako) moguće napraviti aplikacije koje rade potpuno kontrolisano, druga je priča. Za pravljenje stand-alone aplikacija baza, Microsoft u poslednje vreme gura Visual FoxPro.

baze.podataka.235 kiklop, 31 Jan 97 -> #234, dr.grba

A šta fali Visual Basicu?? Native baza VB-a je upravo access. Odlično se slaže sa njim i omogućava jako jednostavno pisanje stand alone aplikacija (provereno). E sad što VB ne pravi baš pravi exe program, to je druga stvar, ali niko nije savršen. :)))

baze.podataka.236 dr.grba, 31 Jan 97 -> #235, kiklop

>> A šta fali Visual Basicu?? Native baza VB-a je upravo access. Odlično >> se slaže sa njim i omogućava jako jednostavno pisanje stand alone >> aplikacija (provereno). Pa dobro, o VB nismo pričali. Samo sam hteo da raščistimo neke stvari o Accessu.

baze.podataka.237 peran, 09 Feb 97

Da li mi neko moze pomoci da mi pod windowsom 95 proradi Oracle 7.1 -verzija za win 3.11.

baze.podataka.238 dekik, 10 Feb 97 -> #237, peran

D?>> Da li mi neko moze pomoci da mi pod windowsom 95 proradi Oracle 7.1 D?>> -verzija za win 3.11. Da li je moguche da je josh u upotrebi win 3.11 ?!

baze.podataka.239 orlic, 04 Mar 97

Kako instalirati Personal Oracle 7 pod windows 95? Non stop trazi w32s a on je sadrzan u w95 tako da nece naknadno da se instalira????

baze.podataka.240 madamov, 01 Apr 97

Integrated Web server highlights new features at a competitive price. CUPERTINO, CA. March 24, 1997 ACI US, Inc. shipped the 4th Dimension Version 6 (4D V6) relational database today. Company president and founder Marylene Delbourg-Delphis states, "With 4D V6, ACI has plotted a course in three main directions. We have taken a new approach to Internet/intranet technology, enhanced the developer environment, and revised the 4th Dimension interface." 4D V6 integrates database technology with Internet capabilities through its built-in web server, enabling immediate Web data publication simply by clicking a check box in the Preference dialog. The new version converts 4D forms to HTML on-the-fly with no need for an external CGI or additional software. Because of the integrated 4D architecture, a Web browser becomes just another client to 4D, allowing users to access, insert, modify and delete data stored in 4D and SQL or ODBC-compliant databases such as ORACLE, Informix, and Sybase. Additionally, the optimized 4D Web server architecture guarantees automatic session maintenance, record locking, transaction management, and data integrity. 4D V6 is an integrated, coherant, 32-bit, cross-platform architecture, allowing smooth scalability between individual and workgroup applications. The extensive 4D V6 cross-platform development capabilities make it a very cost-effective system for development and deployment. 4D V6 enhances the developer environment through new features such as a world-class debugger, increased speed, memory management and I/O optimizations, a new graphic interface, and hundreds of new commands. Other 4D V6 features include triggers and stored procedures, drag-and-drop support, and an object-based form editor for easy user-interface creation and straightforward code re-use. 4D V6 also allows users a hierarchical view of the database structure and easy access to all 4D objects through 4D Explorer, the elaborate drill-down browser. PRICE AND AVAILABILITY According to Vice President of Sales Bruce Finch, "We took a hard look at pricing strategies in the marketplace. As a result, ACI US is much more competitive. Publishing your database on the Web has never been easier or more affordable." The street price for 4D V6 is $299, including 5 simultaneous Internet connections. For customers wishing to add more connections, expansion package options are available. Customers may purchasse 4D V6 through authorized resellers. ABOUT ACI US, INC. ACI US, INC. was founded in 1987 as the US publisher of 4th Dimension and the 4D product line, which has set the relational database standard for ten years, In 1995, ACI extended 4th Dimension technology to the Windows platform. ACI US is located at 20883 Stevens Creek Boulevard, Cupertino, CA 95014; tel 408-252-4444; toll free 800-881-3466; fax 408-252-4829; <http://www.acius.com>.

baze.podataka.241 velicko, 04 Apr 97

Subj: Oracle Power Objects Jel neko negde video verziju 2.0 ? Verzije 1.x imaju strahovite bagove sa BLAZE bazom :(

baze.podataka.242 guta, 15 May 97

- novo - windows\program\*.* ------------------ map97.zip 184k ű Access97 Database Documentor Add-In: Access dokumentacija Database Documentor Add-In Access 97' 2.02 ------------------------------------------ Updated version now creates cross references of tables and queries in forms, queries, reports, and modules. This add-in documents tables, queries, forms, reports, and modules, including code behind forms and reports. All controls on forms and reports are fully documented. There are several predefined reports and the user can open the documentor MDB that is created to define new queries and reports. Your database is not modified in any way. The add-in creates an MDB for each database you document.

baze.podataka.243 madamov, 01 Jun 97

Subject: Announcing 4D Server V6 From: "Finch, Bruce" <finch@acius.com> Date: 14 May 1997 17:30:47 -0700 ACI ANNOUNCES 4D SERVER Version 6!! The client/server solution combining 4th Dimension and more On May 28, 1997, ACI US will ship 4D Server Version 6, the newest upgrade to the outstanding 4D product line. 4D Server combines the user-focused power of 4D with the strength of a client/server and Web Server architecture. Whether you are a database user or a database developer, 4D Server is the superior solution for designing, developing, and deploying within a workgroup, Internet, or Intranet environment. This unique product offers the user an integrated back-end server tool as well as an Internet CGI toolĐno middleware is required for your client/server connection or your Internet connection. The 4D Server multi-threaded architecture delivers a wide range of integrated features and services, such as triggers and stored procedures, a Web server, a data server, a network protocol manager, and also serves as an application server. Coupled with all the phenomenal 4th Dimension Version 6 (4D V6) features, 4D Server is a cost-effective solution at a remarkable price. The estimated street price for 4D Server Version 6 is $699, and includes two 4D Client user licenses and five Internet connections. 4D Server Version 6 upgrade prices begin at $279 for version 1.5x. If you already own an earlier version of 4D Server and additional 4D Client user license expansion packs, you will want to upgrade immediately to 4D Server V6 and 4D Client V6 to take advantage of their outstanding features. 4D Client combines the efficiency of rapid application development (RAD) with multi-user capabilities. As a database development tool, 4D Client integrates the 4D interface, debugger, BLOBs, and user tools. As a cross-platform tool, 4D Client provides a multi-platform interface, auto switching, form wizards, and much more. 4D Client user license expansion pack upgrades begin at $49 for a single-user expansion pack. For additional pricing information, please see enclosed order form. All 4D documentation is available on-line, including the 4D Server Reference Manual. However, if you prefer, you may purchase a complete 4th Dimension printed documentation set for $99. Enclosed in your software upgrade package you will find a 4D Server Reference Manual coupon. When the printed 4D Server Reference manual becomes available, you have the option of redeeming the coupon to receive the printed manual. If you are a registered ACI US Partner or purchasing 4D Server and 4D Client upgrades, you may place your order with the ACI US Customer Service Department at 408-252-4444 x252. ACI US appreciates your continued support. Bruce Finch

baze.podataka.244 dekik, 24 Jul 97

Nedavno sam nabavio Telefonski Imenik SRJ koji drzi telefone "spakovane" u .mdb formatu (MS Access 7.0). Problem je u tome sto u programu nigde nema opcije za stampanje pa me interesuje da li se moze nekim programom pogledati takav fajl i odstampati ?! Unapred Hvala!

baze.podataka.245 kenza, 27 Jul 97 -> #244, dekik

(;> opcije za stampanje pa me interesuje da li se moze nekim programom (;> pogledati takav fajl i odstampati ?! Pa naravno da moze - Access-om :) Uostalom, ako nemas Access mozes da probas da importujes samu bazu u neki drugi format pa onda da stampas.

baze.podataka.246 firus, 14 Aug 97

Izvinjavam se što će se ova (ista) poruka naći u par tema ove konferencije, ali pošto mi je stvar vrlo bitna želim da se osiguram da će je svi videti. Moj problem je u sledećem: Imam jedan .DBF fajl sa pripadajućim .NSX i .SMT fajlovima. To je jako lepo, ali ja nisam Clipper programer (još manje umem da se petljam sa SIx drajverom) tako da mi je potrebna pomoć oko konverzije narečenih fajlova u (poželjno) Fox format, znači: .SMT u .FPT, .NSX u .IDX (ili .CDX, nemam pojma kakvi su indeksi u .NSX formatu), a čak je i struktura .DBF fajla drugačija od standardne (pod ovim posmatram dBASE III+ .DBF), znači treba i to da konvertujem. Ako ništa drugo, biće mi dovoljan i opis narečenih SIx-ovih formata pa ću lako da napišem konverter. P.S. Eh, ah, da, stvar je prilično HITNA !!! Priskočio sam u pomoć jednom prijatelju kome je neki tip pre par godina napisao jednu aplikacijicu ne bi li ovaj automatizovao poslovanje, medjutim, tip nije ostavio ni sors, niti ikakvu dokumentaciju, dok je, sa druge strane, moj prijatelj koji, UBR, sa kompjuterima nema blage veze - zna da koristi taj program i ništa više, napravio s*anje i razbucao disk (kako, ne pitajte mene). Sad je njemu potrebno nešto što mu vrši posao. Pokušao sam na raznim stranama, ali mrka kapa. Računam na vašu kolegijalnu solidarnost. Unapred hvala ...

baze.podataka.247 mmarkovic, 14 Aug 97 -> #246, firus

> Izvinjavam se što će se ova (ista) poruka naći u par tema > ove konferencije, ali pošto mi je stvar vrlo bitna želim da se > osiguram da će je svi videti. Moj problem je u sledećem: Mislim da bi bilo dosta u temi clipper ili razno... > Ako ništa drugo, biće mi dovoljan i opis narečenih SIx-ovih > formata pa ću lako da napišem konverter. Mislim da ovo nije nigde opisano, a srećom, nema ni potrebe. U svakom slučaju, ne znam format, a mislim da i ne treba da znam. Ovo programče bi završilo posao (može li neko da ti ga iskompajlira? UL mi je očajan, a rezultujući EXE bi bio prilično veliki) ------------------------- // CONVERT.PRG #include "sixnsx2.ch" proc main( f1, f2 ) use (f1) via "SIXNSX" copy to (f2) via "SIXCDX" return ------------------------- Upotreba: CONVERT stara nova gde je STARA (dbf/smt - SIX) a nova dbf/fpt - FOX ------------------------------------------------- Uz poruku je SIX primer za obrnut problem Sa indeksima ne bi trebalo da se petljaš, valjda taj program ima reindeksiranje... fpt2smt.prg

baze.podataka.248 bokir, 14 Aug 97 -> #247, mmarkovic

> Ovo programče bi završilo posao (može li neko da ti ga iskompajlira? Evo ga, iskompajlirano... convert.zip

baze.podataka.249 bokir, 15 Aug 97 -> #248, bokir

> Evo ga, iskompajlirano... Ups...nisam ulinkovao i SIXCDX, so, evo ga ponovo... convert.zip

baze.podataka.250 firus, 15 Aug 97 -> #247, mmarkovic

>> Izvinjavam se što će se ova (ista) poruka naći u par tema >> ove konferencije, ali pošto mi je stvar vrlo bitna želim da se >> osiguram da će je svi videti. Moj problem je u sledećem: > > Mislim da bi bilo dosta u temi clipper ili razno... A odgovor na poruku mi stiže u temi baze.podataka ?! ;) Šalu na stranu, neizmerno sam zahvalan na odgovoru, a ako uzmem u obzir i brzinu kojom sam dobio odgovor onda dugujem ne jednu već dve ture pića (prvom prilikom kada skočim do Niša ili kada ti dodješ u BGD, ili, nekim čudom zabasaš u Veliko Gradište. Takodje, koristim priliku da se zahvalim i bokiru koji je kompajlirao sors i poštedeo me muka nabavke Clipper-a i SIx-a ... (I ovde se piće podrazumeva B) P.S. Obrisana je poruka iz ostale tri teme. Za ovo meni moderator dodje turu pića B)

baze.podataka.251 mmarkovic, 15 Aug 97 -> #250, firus

> > Mislim da bi bilo dosta u temi clipper ili razno... > > A odgovor na poruku mi stiže u temi baze.podataka ?! ;) I ja primetih, nego kada sam radio PASS2 kroz poruke, prvo naleteh na tu poruku, ode ALT-R, i tako... :))))) > Šalu na stranu, neizmerno sam zahvalan na odgovoru, > a ako uzmem u obzir i brzinu kojom sam dobio odgovor onda dugujem > ne jednu već dve ture pića (prvom prilikom kada skočim do Niša > ili kada ti dodješ u BGD, ili, nekim čudom zabasaš u Veliko Gradište. Ix, gde ćemo da pijemo i ko časti, manje je bitno! Nego, da li si isplivao? Ako možemo još nekako da pomognemo, kaži. NSX indeksi, a i CDX, mogu u sebi da sadrže više ključeva, a mogu i samo jedan. Pogledaj, recimo LIST-om... A brzinom, od tvoje poruke do bokirovog EXE-a sam i sam bio iznenađen... Dobra stvar ovaj Sezam, ponekad... Nego, kad pomenuh indekse, jel' ti beše onaj firus što nam je obećao priču o B-stablima? Beše i neki ex-micotakis ?!? ;)

baze.podataka.252 bokir, 15 Aug 97 -> #250, firus

> Takodje, koristim priliku da se zahvalim i bokiru koji je > kompajlirao sors i poštedeo me muka nabavke Clipper-a i SIx-a ... > (I ovde se piće podrazumeva B) No problem, samo ako radi posao... Jesi li uspeo da središ sve to?

baze.podataka.253 firus, 16 Aug 97 -> #251, mmarkovic

> Ix, gde ćemo da pijemo i ko časti, manje je bitno! Nego, da li > si isplivao? Isplivao, nego šta, imao sam dobre instruktore plivanja a i spasioce na plaži B)) > NSX indeksi, a i CDX, mogu u sebi da sadrže više ključeva, a > mogu i samo jedan. Pogledaj, recimo LIST-om... Za CDX znam, pošto sam intalirao Fox i čitao help (ja se inače ne bavim bazama podataka), ali NSX su mi, očigledno bili nepoznanica. Smatrao sam da će mi biti lakše da promuntam strukturu datoteka, uspostavljenih relacija itd., ako imam i očuvane indeksne fajlove. No, BKB, uz pomoć NU sam prilično lako skontao kako su datoteke (da, da, ima ih puuno) indeksirane. > Nego, kad pomenuh indekse, jel' ti beše onaj firus što nam je > obećao priču o B-stablima? Beše i neki ex-micotakis ?!? ;) Ex-micotakis tj. Aca je jedno vreme bio "podstanar" na mome user-u, ali je posle par meseci dobio šut-kartu jer je sve manje poštovao dogovor i ponašao se kao da je user (ekskluzivno) njegov (imao sam i ignore listu sa desetak imena, ponekad bi mi ostalo svega par minuta dnevno ...) Priču o B-stablima sam stvarno ja obećao, medjutim zaboravilo se, ali greška će biti ispravljena (u dogledno vreme, trenutno mi je u toku junski ispitni rok).

baze.podataka.254 firus, 16 Aug 97 -> #252, bokir

>> Takodje, koristim priliku da se zahvalim i bokiru koji je >> kompajlirao sors i poštedeo me muka nabavke Clipper-a i SIx-a >> ... (I ovde se piće podrazumeva B) > > No problem, samo ako radi posao... > Jesi li uspeo da središ sve to? Datoteke su konvertovatne, na aplikacijici se radi, sve je pod kontrolom.

baze.podataka.255 mmarkovic, 16 Aug 97 -> #253, firus

> Priču o B-stablima sam stvarno ja obećao, medjutim > zaboravilo se, ali greška će biti ispravljena (u dogledno vreme, > trenutno mi je u toku junski ispitni rok). OK. Čekamo. Srećno, šteta da i tu ne možemo da pomognemo... ;)

baze.podataka.256 kum.djole, 29 Sep 97

Treba mi "nekakav" DOS program koji podržava (i obrađuje) veliku bazu podataka tipa: unesem podatke o firmi, firma ta i ta bavi se tim i tim, adresa, telefon, itd.. eventualno neki 'note' o zapažanjima, itd itd.. Elem, nije za mene, a i pomalo mi je laički objašnjeno šta treba.. Hvala unapred. :)

baze.podataka.257 popovics, 29 Sep 97 -> #256, kum.djole

>>Treba mi "nekakav" DOS program koji podržava (i obrađuje) veliku >>bazu >>podataka tipa: unesem podatke o firmi, firma ta i ta bavi se tim i >>tim, >>adresa, telefon, itd.. eventualno neki 'note' o zapažanjima, itd >>itd.. >>Elem, nije za mene, a i pomalo mi je laički objašnjeno šta treba.. >>Hvala unapred. :) Đole, za takav program neznam (jer se nikada nisam bavio bazama podataka), ali moram da ti kažem da si promašio temu, uostalom, zašto ne skineš spisak programa iz Sezamovih direktorijuma i pogledaš šta tu ima - možda se i nađe nešto tako...

baze.podataka.258 kenza, 01 Oct 97

Hi! Jel ima zainteresovanih za osnivanje grupe MS Access? Ako ima, prijave kod mene u mail :)

baze.podataka.259 sjocic, 06 Oct 97

Imam neku bazu podataka (tel. imenik) u *.mdb formatu. Koji programi koriste ovaj format baze - Paradox ? Da li je moguće napraviti poseban program koji bi baratao sa ovom bazom, ako mi nije poznat format zapisa, tj. da li je moguće nekako otkriti koji je format zapisa ?

baze.podataka.260 kenza, 06 Oct 97 -> #259, sjocic

>> Koji programi koriste ovaj format baze - Paradox ? Microsoft Access :) >> ovom bazom, ako mi nije poznat format zapisa, tj. da li je moguce >> nekako otkriti koji je format zapisa ? Najlakse je Access-om da otvoris tabelu koja te zanima(unutar baze) i pogledas njen format :) Sto se programa tice, mogu da je koriste i VB i Delphi preko svojih DB Engine-a. Medjutim, ako to vec radis na taj nacin, a ne iz Access-a, onda je bolje da napravis svoj format tabele i resis problem... :) Poz.

baze.podataka.261 sjocic, 07 Oct 97 -> #260, kenza

-> Najlakse je Access-om da otvoris tabelu koja te zanima(unutar -> baze) i pogledas njen format :) Sto se programa tice, mogu da je -> koriste i VB i Delphi preko svojih DB Engine-a. Medjutim, ako to -> vec radis na taj nacin, a ne iz Access-a, onda je bolje da -> napravis svoj format tabele i resis problem... :) Hvala na odgovoru, instalirao sam Access i stvari su postale mnogo jasnije. Nemam nikakva iskustva u programiranju pod Win, a pogotovu ne sa bazama, ali imam nameru da uz pomoc neke literature napravim nesto elementarno - samo za pregled rekorda i pretrazivanje po razlicitim kriterijumima (tel, adresa, ime i sl.) Uzgred, kako se Access snalazi sa malo vecim bazama - reda 10-70Mb?

baze.podataka.262 kenza, 07 Oct 97 -> #261, sjocic

>> Uzgred, kako se Access snalazi sa malo vecim bazama - reda 10-70Mb? Pravo da ti kazem, ne znam... :( Moja najveca baza je dostigla oko 800k u 400 slogova. Mislim da ne bi trebalo da bude problema, jer ipak je to jedan od najozbiljnijih DB programa. :) Poz.

baze.podataka.263 dr.grba, 08 Oct 97 -> #262, kenza

>>>> Uzgred, kako se Access snalazi sa malo vecim bazama - reda 10-70Mb? >> >> Pravo da ti kazem, ne znam... :( Moja najveca baza je dostigla >> oko 800k u 400 slogova. Mislim da ne bi trebalo da bude problema, Studije slučaja pokazuju da je Access carski na manjim bazama, ne više od 80-100.000 slogova. Naravno, ovo treba uzeti sa dozom rezerve, jer sirova snaga mora da ustupi mesto projektivnom pristupu i planiranju baze. Ono gde je Access odličan jeste integracija raznorodnih izvora podataka na klijent-strani. Teško da tu postoji bolji 'value for money', kako kažu Ameri. Mada, pojavom novih proizvoda Oraclea, SyBasea i njima sličnih tu dolazi do promene odnosa snaga na strani klijenta. >> jer ipak je to jedan od najozbiljnijih DB programa. :) E, ovde stvarno treba smeško (:

baze.podataka.264 kenza, 15 Oct 97

U planu je otvaranje grupe MS Access. Molim prijave zainteresovanih na mail ;)

baze.podataka.265 netcomm, 22 Oct 97

Otvorena je grupa MSACCESS, javljajte se

baze.podataka.266 superhik, 20 Nov 97

Hey! Ćale mi radi u MS Accessu i nije baš neki mag u tome ali je uspeo da napravi neko programče koje sada treba da spremi ya instalaciju na drugim mašinama koje nemaju MS Access, zna li neko kako se to radi i može li se to uopšte Txanks 10x!

baze.podataka.267 kenza, 21 Nov 97 -> #266, superhik

>> drugim masinama koje nemaju MS Access, zna li neko kako se to radi i >> moze li se to uopste Svakako da moze... samo ne rece o kojem je Access-u rec? Ako je 2.0 onda ce instalacion verzija biti 5 ili vise disketa a ako je nesto novije od dvojke, onda... ;> Recimo samo da bi bilo bolje da instalira ceo Access ;) LM, paket koji mu treba je Access Developer's Toolkit za odgovarajucu verziju Access-a(ako je dvojka 4 diskete, mozes da ih dobijes od mene, dok za novi Access ADT zauzima ceo jedan CD koji ja nemam ali pirati najverovatnije da) Poz.

baze.podataka.268 lazzaro, 27 Nov 97

Da li neko zna gde bi mogao da nabavim neku dobru literaturu za oracle7 i jos ako neko zna koja je verzija oracle7 moguca da radi na pc-u. Pozdrav :)

baze.podataka.269 ralex, 04 Dec 97

Molio bi ako neko zna da li postoji neko uputstvo za Clarion 2.0 za Windows na srpskom ili engleskom i da li ono moze da se nadje i gde Unapred se zahvaljujem svima koji mi pomognu da to uputstvo pronadjem Ralex

baze.podataka.270 sjocic, 28 Dec 97

Kako 'prepraviti' DBF fajl ? Evo u cemu je problem: U dbf fajlu nalaze se ulazi i izlazi sa datumima za sve artikle iz magacina jedne firme. Potrebno je DBF fajl 'procistiti' svih podataka osim poslednjeg, koji sadrzi trenutno stanje za dati artikl i datum njegove poslednje promene. Postoji li neki utility koji bi ovo mogao da izvede, tj. kako ovo uraditi?

baze.podataka.271 rdejan, 02 Jan 98 -> #270, sjocic

>> Potrebno je DBF fajl 'procistiti' svih podataka osim poslednjeg, >> koji sadrzi trenutno stanje za dati artikl i datum njegove poslednje >> promene. Možda ne baš najefikasnije, ali zasigurno najbrže - MS Excel. Otvara .dbf, snima .dbf i još puno toga za samo $9,95... :) Pozdrav, Dejan

baze.podataka.272 vvaske, 11 May 98

Ima li ne ko (ili zna gde ima) skup VBX-ova "Data Vidgets". Proizvodjac "Sheridan Software System" Ekvivalent DBGrid-u i ostalima iz VB-4.0 Hvala vvaske

baze.podataka.273 guta, 11 May 98 -> #272, vvaske

#> Ima li ne ko (ili zna gde ima) skup VBX-ova #> "Data Vidgets". Proizvodjac "Sheridan Software System" #> Ekvivalent DBGrid-u i ostalima iz VB-4.0 Pošto je u pitanju komercijalni paket kontrola, sumnjam da se bilo gde može naći bez da se plati licenca. Naravno, kod pirata je svašta moguće, ali u to se ne bih upuštao.

baze.podataka.274 guta, 22 May 98

Microsoft Announces Visual FoxPro 6.0 Microsoft Transaction Server Support Improves Scalability; New Productivity Features Jump Start Development of Visual FoxPro ORLANDO, Fla. - May 18, 1998 - Today at Visual FoxPro DevCon 98, Microsoft Corp. announced the Microsoftr Visual FoxPror database development system version 6.0. The new version will enable developers to build high-performance scalable database solutions and components. The 1,600 DevCon attendees saw demos of enhanced productivity, ease of use and enterprise development features in the new version of Visual FoxPro. A member of the Visual Studio&trade; development system family, the industry's leading development tools suite, Visual FoxPro 6.0 enables developers to take advantage of the latest advances in the Windowsr and Windows NTr operating systems . Scheduled for widespread availability later this summer, Visual FoxPro 6.0 is designed to give more than 500,000 developers using Visual FoxPro a more efficient and powerful way to build data-centric, multitier client/server and Web-based applications and to help ensure that new and existing applications are year 2000-compliant. "Visual FoxPro is essential to our OmniTRACS mobile information software product development," said Michael Harlan, manager, software applications engineering of the OmniTRACS division at QUALCOMM Inc. "We believe Visual FoxPro 6.0 will enable our team to be more productive and will provide our customers with powerful and scalable management information solutions while improving our time-to-market." Builds High-Performance Scalable Components Visual FoxPro 6.0 is enhanced to build data-intensive components for the middle tier of three-tier applications. New support for Microsoft Transaction Server (MTS) will allow developers to manage and scale components to hundreds of users and provide cross-component transactions. MTS support, along with enhanced support for Active Server Pages and Internet Information Server (IIS), will let developers build database and electronic-commerce applications that take full advantage of the World Wide Web. "Visual FoxPro, combined with the other tools in Visual Studio, is the best way for developers who use Visual FoxPro to move to a three-tier architecture for enterprise development," said Paul Gross, vice president of the tools group at Microsoft. "The advances in the new version will make development easier without sacrificing the traditional strengths of FoxPro, like an incredibly fast engine and great data management. Today you see more and more multitier development with different tools, languages and backends like Microsoft SQL Server&trade; and Oracle 8. Visual FoxPro 6.0 is a perfect tool for this type of environment." Year 2000-Compliant Applications Visual FoxPro has always supported four-year date fields, but with Visual FoxPro 6.0, Microsoft has introduced a strict date format to prevent ambiguous dates and help ensure that new and existing Visual FoxPro-based applications are year 2000-compliant. The new version uses a strict date format of yyyy/mm/dd; this format prevents ambiguous dates like 10/11/12, which could represent different dates in different countries. Developers can take existing applications, built with any previous version of Visual FoxPro, and recompile them in Visual FoxPro 6.0 to identify noncompliant dates. More Productive and Easier to Learn Visual FoxPro 6.0 will ship with an Application Wizard and Application Builder to assist developers in creating an object-oriented framework for jump-starting development. Also, included in Visual FoxPro will be a set of new Foundation Classes containing over 100 prebuilt reusable classes that provide common functions to many applications. To improve testing and debugging, Microsoft added a Coverage Profiler that checks and identifies which lines of code are being run and how long it takes for each line to execute. New support for ActiveXr Documents allows developers to migrate existing forms and applications quickly and easily to the Web. Visual FoxPro 6.0 will also come with a new Web-publishing wizard. Visual FoxPro 6.0 to Ship in Visual Studio 6.0 Visual FoxPro will be available as a standalone product as well as included in Visual Studio 6.0, the comprehensive suite of Microsoft developer tools for Windows and the Web. Visual FoxPro 6.0 and Visual Studio 6.0 are scheduled to be available during the second half of 1998. Additional information on Visual FoxPro can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/

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Visual FoxPro 6.0 Live Chat Part 1 ---------------------------------- U nastavku poruke se nalazi transkript chat-a o beta verziji Visual FoxPro-a 6.0 U razgovoru su učestvovali ljudi iz VFoxPro razvojnog tima, pa među pitanjima i odgovorima možete pronaći dosta podataka iz tips & tricks sekcije. ------------------------------ MSDN Online Chat Chat about Visual FoxPro 6.0 Live from the Microsoft Visual FoxPro Developers Conference May 19, 1998 Orlando, Florida Microsoft participants in this MSDN chat included Visual FoxPro product manager Robert Green, host Sondra Webber of MSDN, and six other members of the Visual FoxPro team: Susan Graham, Randy Brown, Ricardo Wenger, Doug Shepard, Allison Koeneke, and Tom Cooper. Host sondra_MS says: Hello, please stick around until 11 am PST for MSDN Online's chat-Live from the Microsoft Visual FoxPro Developer's Conference. RobertGreen_MS says: Hello everyone. We are live at DevCon 98 from Orlando. Q: Will Tahoe /Microsoft's internal code name for Visual FoxPro 6.0/ have better support for ActiveX components? RobertGreen_MS says: A: Yes. Incrementally better in Visual FoxPro, and there is increased awareness from the control vendors that they need to test better with Visual FoxPro. Q: Robert, are you still scheduled for Waltham next week? RobertGreen_MS says: A: Yes. I will be at your user group on Tuesday at 7. The meeting is in the MS office in Waltham. Everyone in the area is welcome. Q: Last week Microsoft announced retirement of Visual FoxPro 3.0 exam. RobertGreen_MS says: A: There will be a new 5 day MOC course for Visual FoxPro 6.0 and also a new MCP exam for Visual FoxPro 6.0. These will appear shortly after the product ships. Q. Coolbar support? Host AllisonK_MS says: A: Not natively in Visual FoxPro but there are OCXs that will give you this functionality. Q: My first question is... when is this going to start? RobertGreen_MS says: A: We have started. We are live at the Visual FoxPro DevCon98 in Orlando. The big news of course is that we announced and showed Visual FoxPro 6.0. Q. Will Visual FoxPro 6.0 release the updated version of the ODBC driver? And will it support ADO? AllisonK_MS says: A. The currently shipping ODBC driver works with ADO already but we also plan on updating the ODBC driver in the future. Q: Will Visual FoxPro 6.0 release the updated version of the ODBC driver? And will it support ADO? RobertGreen_MS says: A: We will have an incremental update to the ODBC driver when we ship. We have complete programmatic support for ADO in Visual FoxPro 6.0 (and 5.0) for that matter. Q: IS there a ship date for Visual FoxPro 6.0 yet? RobertGreen_MS says: A: Later in the summer. Q: Does Visual FoxPro 6.0 support security on the DBC? RobertGreen_MS says: A: Nope. Q: Does Visual FoxPro 6.0 support security on the DBC? RobertGreen_MS says: A: Nope. Q: Have the Tahoe beta testers been released from the Tahoe part of their NDAs yet? RobertGreen_MS says: A: Yes. Q: What about DCOM support? RobertGreen_MS says: A: We have had that since 5.0. What exactly are you looking for Tom? Q: What about a prerelease of Tahoe like you've done for InterDev? RobertGreen_MS says: A: We have pre-released to 1600 of our best customers here at DevCon! Q: If the testers have been released from NDA, the beta is over? RobertGreen_MS says: A: No, that is not true! For example, both VJ and VI are also totally public but we are all still in beta. We will release later in the summer, but we are still working on the product. Q. When is the next Visual FoxPro DevCon? Host AllisonK_MS says: A. June 1999 in Palm Springs Q. Will the update to the ODBC Driver support SQL commands greater than 255 characters? Host AllisonK_MS says: A. We are considering this and other features for our next release. Q: I'm not seeing any answers in the top window. How come? SusanG_MS_ says: A: You will shortly. transcriptor says: MSDN Online is the one place you should look for information on all of Microsoft's developer resources. Visit us at http://www.microsoft.com/msdn/ for headline news, product information, features, and more. Q: Do Visual FoxPro 6.0 enhancements push it to the front of the Visual Studio pack in regards to RAD/OOP development tools? Host AllisonK_MS says: A: Each product has specific RAD and OOP features that make it a compelling tool for its users. Host Dougsh_MS says: GarrettFitzgerald_ says: RobertGreen: have the Tahoe beta testers been released from the Tahoe part of their NDAs yet? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: The beta testers have been released from their NDA, but we are still in beta. Host Dougsh_MS says: Paul_Rec_ says: Does Visual FoxPro 6.0 have the equivalent of an AddressOf operator? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: No. Is this something that you would like to see in future versions? Host Dougsh_MS says: FredLepow_ says: I have found no easy way to print forms and code using Visual FoxPro 5.0. Is there a way? Will Visual FoxPro 6.0 have this feature (like VB PrintAll feature)? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: Not intrinsically. But I understand there is some shareware that will handle it for you. Check on the newsgroups for it. Host Dougsh_MS says: dwilkerson_ says: Will the Visual FoxPro 6.0 DBC support data access triggers? Answer from ricardow_ms_ms: Can you be more specific in your question? Host Dougsh_MS says: FredBert_ says: Security on FoxPro tables has been requested since 1.02. Will security on tables ever be added? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: Most likely not. If you would like security we suggest moving your data to SQL Server. Host Dougsh_MS says: Paul_Rec_ says: What are the improvements to the Report Writer in Visual FoxPro 6.0? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: The major improvement is that you can PREVIEW into a top level form. And of course, there are some bug fixes. Host Dougsh_MS says: GLongtin_ says: OLEDB provider for Visual FoxPro dbc? Any support for record sets within Visual FoxPro 6.0? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: OLEDB provider for Visual FoxPro is under study and a very good idea. Support for ADO is already in there programmatically. Host Dougsh_MS says: Puck_ says: What about a prerelease of Tahoe like you've done for InterDev? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We just did a prerelease version for 1600 of our favorite customers here at DevCon! <vbg> Host Dougsh_MS says: Kendall_ says: What is Visual FoxPro 6.0's greatest new feature? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: We have added many features, from Access and Assign methods to new language features, to an Application Framework with many foundation classes to server enhancements and much more. It would be difficult to say which. Host Dougsh_MS says: yournamehere_ says: When is Visual FoxPro 6.0 going to be released through MSDN? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: Visual FoxPro goes with Visual Studio when it goes to MSDN beta. Host Dougsh_MS says: Puck_ says: Q: If the testers have been released from NDA, the beta is over? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: No. We are still working on the product. We will release later in the summer. Host Dougsh_MS says: Puck_ says: Have the UI controls been updated for FULL Win95 look and feel? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: Can you be specific about what you are looking for? We updated the controls extensively in Visual FoxPro 5.0 for full Win95 look and feel. Host Dougsh_MS says: Gerry_Schmitz_ says: Hi Robert Green. Q: Is the Visual FoxPro team doing anything to improve Visual FoxPro UI performance (in Visual FoxPro 6.0 or later)? Compared to FPW, VB, etc. UI refresh in Visual FoxPro is relatively slow (and I can't find a reason) since Windows API calls (like TEXTOUT) ** from a Visual FoxPro pgm ** do much better than native Visual FoxPro .Refresh or .Draw. Comments please!! Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: We have done some selected UI performance improvements throughout the product. Host RobertGreen_MS says: We are having technical difficulties on our end here. Please bear with us while we get it straightened out. Host RobertGreen_MS says: We are live at Visual FoxPro DevCon in Orlando. We are enjoying the warm weather and the 1600 attendees getting their first look at Visual FoxPro 6.0. We are currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by. Host Susan_MS says: Bill_Anderson_ says: Now for a really important question-any Easter Eggs in Tahoe? For that matter, how about Visual FoxPro 5.0? Answer from ricardow_ms_ms: Yes. Keep looking!!!! Host Susan_MS says: Paul_Rec_ says: When is the next Visual FoxPro DevCon? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: June 6-10, 1999 in Palm Springs, CA. (Notice that we are adding a day to the conference.) Host Susan_MS says: FredBert_ says: Has the 2 gig limit on tables been lifted? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: The 2 gig limit has not been lifted in Visual FoxPro 6.0. Host Susan_MS says: JohnKoziol_ says: Do Visual FoxPro 6.0 enhancements push it to the front of the Visual Studio pack in regards to RAD/OOP development tools? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Well, I wouldn't say we are in the front, but we have certainly made some pretty impressive progress in the last couple of releases. We certainly think that all the Visual Studio tools are great tools, each with their own strengths. Host Susan_MS says: Rodolfo_ says: Why doesn't menu and report are native classes in Visual FoxPro 6.0? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: There is no easy answer to that, except that other features have taken a higher priority. Host Susan_MS says: Ron_ says: Is there a public or MSDN list of new features/enhancements for 6? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We will be releasing this type of information closer to when we ship later in the summer. Host Susan_MS says: Randyp_ says: Is it possible for UG Leaders to get Visual FoxPro 6.0 betas for members? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We will be sending user groups a couple of copies of the beta for them to raffle off to their members. But we won't be giving out unlimited copies. Host Susan_MS says: DavidA_ says: Where can I find details on the "100 new classes?" Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: They are fully documented in the product. So, unless you have the beta, you will have to wait until we ship Visual FoxPro 6.0 for full details on all of them. Host Susan_MS says: Greg_ says: Has Visual Basic been integrated into Visual FoxPro as a macro language? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: Not for Visual FoxPro 6.0. Host Susan_MS says: TomDeMay_ says: Already ask, haven't seen an answer, Callbacks, hWnd Property and what about structures? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: Our native controls are not windowed and therefore do not expose the hWnd. You can get the hWnd of our forms, however. We do not support structures natively in the Visual FoxPro language. Host Susan_MS says: Warren_ says: What will the upgrade path be to Visual Studio? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Pretty similar to what it has always been. If you own a previous version of one of the tools in VS, then you get a discount for upgrading to it. Host Susan_MS says: bwalter_ says: Is the Visual FoxPro 6.0 Beta going to be available through any means other than attending the 1998 DevCon? MSDN or Solution Provider? Answer from ricardow_ms_ms: All MS betas are available through MSDN universal. Host sondra_MS says: This is an MSDN Online chat, and we are discussing Microsoft Visual FoxPro. Questions, comments and suggestions are welcome. Host Susan_MS says: dwilkerson_ says: Will MS increase its marketing strategy for Visual FoxPro? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We are constantly working as hard as we can to spread the good word about Visual FoxPro and the role it plays in Visual Studio. We expect the release of 6.0 later in the summer will help a lot. Host Susan_MS says: jsmock_ says: Will version 6.0 address the many significant bugs remaining in the current release? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: We've addressed the bugs that we know about. If you have specific issues, please make sure you report them to us. Host Susan_MS says: GarrettFitzgerald_ says: Is the next DevCon most likely going to be a between-release conference, like last year's? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Oh yes! We are going to ship Visual FoxPro 6.0 later in the summer, so a DevCon in June 1999 will definitely still be a 6.0 conference. However, we have some great ideas on how to improve the conference and make sure that the content is fresh and new. We hope to see you there! Host Susan_MS says: abgame_ says: I really do appreciate the improvements made in version 6.0, from speed to the ease of working on the web. Curious what we can expect in the future? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: Some things under consideration: tighter integration with ADO, such as ADO-type views, OLE-DB provider, continued improvements to Visual FoxPro components, more integration with Visual Studio, both at design-time and run-time... Host Susan_MS says: TomDeMay_ says: I'm seeing a lot of "no's" to our questions. Can you tell us what Visual FoxPro 6.0 has that would make it worth my while? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: It's difficult to say what would be worth your while in 6.0. It depends on what you are doing with Visual FoxPro. But there are many new features, language enhancements, Web support, etc. Host Susan_MS says: Rodolfo_ says: Again: Does not make more sense if MS put Visual FoxPro 6.0 papers on Visual FoxPro site before this on line chat? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We are not going to be putting any 6.0 papers on the Web site until much closer to shipping, which is later in the summer. But once we ship, there will be a lot of new stuff on our web site. Host Susan_MS says: PRobinshaw_ says: I've heard of 100 new foundation classes. Does this mean more "framework" type development? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: VPF6 has a new Application Wizard which generates a new project with application framework. The framework, which is open architecture, allows use of many of new foundation classes. The classes also have samples of how to use new things

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Visual FoxPro 6.0 Live Chat Part 2 ---------------------------------- Host Susan_MS says: Paul_Rec_ says: Is there a Visual FoxPro 7.0 in the works? What will be its main new feature? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We are, as we type, planning future releases of Visual FoxPro. What would you like to see in the product? Host Susan_MS says: Lindy_ says: Visual Basic has a command "NOTHING" that is used by some object libraries to disassociate an object variable from an actual object. Has this command, or something similar, been added to Visual FoxPro 6.0? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Can't you set the objects to .Null. and achieve the same thing? Host Susan_MS says: cybrdyne_ says: &gt;All MS betas are available through MSDN universal.&lt; I have MSDN universal. When shall we expect the beta? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Real soon now. Host Susan_MS says: bwalter_ says: Is there a chance there will be any bug fixes to Visual FoxPro 5.0 before Visual FoxPro 6.0 is released? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: The last release of Visual FoxPro 5.0 was in Visual Studio's Service Pack 3. No interim versions will be released before Visual FoxPro 6.0. Host Susan_MS says: FredBert_ says: What will OS(1) return under Win98? Answer from AllisonK_MS_ms: Windows 4.10 Host Susan_MS says: Bill_Anderson_ says: Can you tell us what Visual FoxPro 6.0 has that would make it worth my while? Answer from _ms: They've added a whole bunch of stuff but it would take too long to explain. I can type No in two keystrokes ;) Host Susan_MS says: Ed_ says: Where can independent people join beta programs? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Email betareqŽmicrosoft.com. Host Susan_MS says: Kendall_ says: Why is making the Beta available to experienced developers who are not attending DevCon so difficult? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We can't support a beta program of unlimited size. We have an official process for adding people to the beta that we follow. We have both experienced and new developers in our betas. We are giving out the beta at DevCon as a perk for attending. Host Susan_MS says: Trini says: What features supported in new framework? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: The new framework has all the glue you need to handle common application tasks such as managing forms, toolbars and menus. It's also smart to detect unsaved buffered data when you close forms/quit application. A number of common application elements are built-in such as Splash screen, About dialog, Favorites menu, Password logins, Quick Start dialog, navigation toolbars and menu, etc. It's very powerful and easy to use. Host Susan_MS says: Serge_ says: Does FoxPro 6.0 have the same advanced programming aids as Access 97? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Which one are you looking for? Host Susan_MS says: bwalter_ says: I attended several Microsoft Sponsored Developer Days over the last 8 months. Visual FoxPro was almost never mentioned and was even missing from slides of Visual Studio showing all the other products. Is this going to change this coming year? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Yes. Host Susan_MS says: DaveBarrows_ says: I just joined the conversation. I'm not at DevCon. How can I get a list of new Visual FoxPro 6.0 features? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: The various 3rd party magazines and newsgroups/list servers will have lots of details now that the 3rd party NDA has been lifted. We will have more information on our Web site later in the summer when we are closer to shipping. Host Susan_MS says: wendy_ says: Does Visual FoxPro 6.0 provide any tools for trapping memory leaks? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: Visual FoxPro has SYS() functions for detecting memory usage. Host Susan_MS says: Ron_ says: Is Microsoft committed to Visual FoxPro? In the press? In # of developers? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Yes, Yes, and Yes. As for press, have you read last week's online reviews of Visual FoxPro 6.0 in Information Week and InfoWorld? They loved the product and had very good things to say about it! The InfoWorld review should also be in the print magazine this week. As for developers, we have over 500,000 FoxPro developers worldwide and we are totally committed to them. Host Susan_MS says: Ed_Watkins_ says: Can a Visual FoxPro database be updated from VB via ADO? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: Sure. ADO includes an ODBC OLE DB provider which uses the VPF ODBC driver. Host Susan_MS says: Tim_ says: Will Visual FoxPro 6.0. allow you to place toolbars on any form not just the main window? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: Just like VFP5, you can place toolbars and menus on Top-Level windows (ShowWindow=2). If you want toolbars on normal windows, you can use an ActiveX control. Host Susan_MS says: FredBert_ says: Are the Migrating FoxPro/Access applications to SQL Server seminars going to be held in SMALL towns like Houston, TX? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: That is mostly up to the local offices. We make those seminars available to any field office that wants to have them. Call your local office and let them know you want them to give the seminars. Host Susan_MS says: jsmock_ says: Will there be any discussion of bugs and plans to address them or is this strictly a cheerleading session for the faithful? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: No. Microsoft Technical Support is your best resource for that. They have the bug database at their ready and so they can look up an issue and see if it has been reported before, if it has workarounds, etc. We don't have those resources. Host Susan_MS says: bruceg_ says: What Web Support features have been added? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: We've improved our server story for better use with ASP applications. We have a new Save As HTML menu item which uses our new GENHTML engine. You can generate HTML from Data, Forms and Reports. There is also a new Web Publishing Wizard with completely open architecture. Host Susan_MS says: GLongtin_ says: 2nd time-OLEDB driver for DBC's, ADO record set object support? If so, in what way? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: OLEDB driver for DBCs-excellent idea, under consideration. ADO record set support-complete via code. Host Susan_MS says: Puck_ says: 26Again:Q1: What are the chances for Visual FoxPro developers to get a pre-release before the product ships? Answer from TomC_ms: The only way would have been to come to DevCon. All DevCon attendees are receiving the May Pre-Release. Alas, it is too late for that now. Sorry. Host Susan_MS says: bwalter_ says: In future Visual Studio Service Packs will the Visual FoxPro updates still be installed two times each time you run the update like in service pack 1 and 2 and 3? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: The SP Setup Wizard was checking the registry for Visual FoxPro 5.0 *and* for 5.0a, so it listed Visual FoxPro twice in the dialog if it found both in the registry. Host Susan_MS says: dino_ says: Can we get GUID support??? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: What do you mean here? You can already call a Windows API routine to generate a new GUID. Host RobertGreen_MS says: We have about 10 minutes left in this chat. Host Susan_MS says: Ed_Watkins_ says: Can ADO be used from VB to access and update a Visual FoxPro database? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Yes, via the Visual FoxPro ODBC driver. Host Susan_MS says: FredBert_ says: Wish List, how about sending report output to HTML or a graphic file independent of a print driver. Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: In Visual FoxPro 6.0 you can report output to HTML. Host Susan_MS says: DaveBarrows_ says: This is not a joke, but a serious question hoping Microsoft will come clean with a serious answer: what about Visual FoxPro Mac? Is it dead? Will it forever remain 3.0? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: We actually have come clean with a serious answer on this, several times. However, I am happy to repeat it here. <vbg> There will be no more Mac versions of Visual FoxPro. This is strictly an economic decision based on low sales of the 3.0 product and the general state of the Mac market. This was not a happy or easy decision on our part. Host RobertGreen_MS says: We are wrapping this up now. Last chance for questions. Host Susan_MS says: LTD_ says: Binding to COM Interfaces? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: Visual FoxPro 6.0 now supports dual interfaces so you get both early-binding and IDispatch. Host Susan_MS says: cybrdyne_ says: If you have an object reference, say thisform.oSomething = an object, and you set thisform.oSomething = .F. or event .NULL. (like people are suggesting) doesn't that just change the pointer and the actual object is still in memory somewhere? Or is there some sort of recycler working in the background? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: Yes. It is still in memory unless you issue a CLEAR ALL or CLEAR CLASS <classname>. We cache the object in memory for performance benefits since you may need to recreate the object right after. Host Susan_MS says: TomDeMay_ says: Does Visual FoxPro 6.0 provide any tools for trapping memory leaks? Haven't used it, but try Bounds Checker. Answer from TomC_MS_ms: Actually, because of how Visual FoxPro manages and reuses memory to increase speed, BoundsChecker will report many false positives. The best bet is to use SYS(1016) to monitor internal user memory while doing your test in a loop. For any COM memory leaks, use the task manager or perfmon. If using DLL servers, any leak will be seen on your process as the memory usage slowly increasing. If using EXE servers, a leak might be seen in your client process, the server process, or RpcSs.exe. Host Susan_MS says: dino_ says: How can I create a GUID in Visual FoxPro??? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: Use Windows API routine (DECLARE DLL). I don't recall exact one off-hand. Host Susan_MS says: Michael_Chean_ says: Will Visual FoxPro 7 be released at the next DevCon? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: Are you freaking kidding me? <vbg> No way!!!! We are going to release 6.0 later in the summer, and we sure aren't going to be ready to do another version less than a year later! Aye caramba! Host Susan_MS says: bruceg_ says: How about the ability to define a calculation as the source for a text field? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: You have this functionality in 6.0 by using the new Access and Assign methods. Host Susan_MS says: inforsis_ says: MsGraph continues in Visual FoxPro 6.0? Answer from SusanG_MS_ms: Yes and no. We will no longer be shipping MSGraph 5 and we won't be shipping MSGraph 8 with Visual FoxPro. So in order to create graphs you will have to install Graph 8 from some other source. The Setup Wizard will, however, let you ship the runtime of Graph 8. Host Susan_MS says: Rodolfo_ says: Could I pass my business objects between a client and a server DCOM Visual FoxPro component? Answer from TomC_MS_ms: Yes. As long as it is a regular com object, it can be marshaled across the net using DCOM. You can even instantiate Visual FoxPro.Application over DCOM, and then bring up a project, and use _Visual FoxPro.ActiveProject.Build() to build your application on that remote machine. Host Susan_MS says: Puck_ says: John: so, why can't we apply anymore to enter the beta? Answer from RobertGreen_MS_ms: The beta has been closed for several months. Unfortunately, we don't have the resources to support betas of unlimited numbers. Host Susan_MS says: PRobinshaw_ says: Any developments in the report writer & menu builder? Answer from randybr_ms_ms: What kinds of enhancements would you like to see? 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baze.podataka.277 guta, 22 May 98

SYBASE INTRODUCES WAREHOUSE STUDIO ---------------------------------- Delivers New Integrated Product Set for Powerful Data Warehouse Driven Business Solutions WASHINGTON, DC, May 4, 1998 -- Sybase today introduced Warehouse Studio (TM), an integrated product set for delivering powerful enterprise or departmental data warehouse driven business solutions. Warehouse Studio provides a set of design, transformation, database, meta data management and administration capabilities optimized to meet customers' data warehousing needs. Warehouse Studio enables organizations to deploy business solutions faster and at a lower cost, while providing the flexibility and scalability to accommodate global, enterprise requirements. The announcement was made at the International Sybase User Group Conference being held here this week. For enterprise-wide data warehouse deployments, Sybase announces the Enterprise Warehouse Option to Warehouse Studio, which adds a central data consolidation store and fast, reliable data movement capabilities. In addition, Sybase is offering Warehouse Studio Extensions that provide capabilities for broad data access and integration, on-line analytic processing (OLAP), Web connectivity, and voice recognition. Sybase also offers industry-leading data warehouse consulting services through its worldwide Professional Services organization. With these options, Sybase users can easily customize Warehouse Studio to meet their specific business requirements. "Organizations are looking to vendors to help them deploy decision-making systems more quickly and at a lower overall cost," said David Boswell, vice president and general manager of Data Warehousing for Sybase. "Warehouse Studio is designed to deliver a rapid return on their data warehousing investments, and provides the flexibility to accommodate the inevitable changes in their business environments." "With Sybase's Warehouse Studio, we are building exactly the kind of data repository and data marts that our business users require, while leveraging all of the systems and the data we already have," said Tim Regan, manager, Advanced Information Development, Federal Express. "By providing access to the information our users need, the way they need it - with minimal cost and time - Sybase has taken a great deal of the complexity and the risk out of our decision support system development project. In addition, we are positioned to accommodate the inevitable growth and evolution of our decision support environment as the business requirements change." Warehouse Studio increases the value of data warehouse-based business solutions by providing reduced total cost of ownership and faster time to deployment, with features including: Integration -- A comprehensive product set delivered and supported by a single vendor, centrally installed, interoperability tested and meta data driven enables organizations to think globally and act locally; Speed -- Intuitive development tools accelerate deployment, while high-performance data management technologies process information requests up to 100 times faster than other solutions; Flexibility -- Data management that is optimized for different application needs leverages existing systems, and gives IT departments the ability to distribute or centralize data processing as appropriate, and business users the opportunity to ask "anything from anywhere;" Resource Efficiency -- A highly productive environment that easily accommodates specific application requirements and efficiently uses hardware while reducing database administrator support requirements. Price and Availability Sybase's Warehouse Studio will be generally available in the second quarter of 1998 on Sun Solaris, IBM AIX, HP HP/UX, Digital UNIX, and Windows NT platforms. In addition, Sybase Professional Services, with its network of more than 1,200 professionals worldwide, provides integration and implementation expertise for Warehouse Studio. Pricing for the Warehouse Studio, the Enterprise Warehouse Option, and extended features will be announced later this quarter.

baze.podataka.278 vvaske, 15 Jul 98

HELP ! Greskom (ili gluposcu ?) sam obrisao fajl DAO2016.DLL i sad' mi ACCESS 2.0 ne radi A neophodan mi je moze li to neko da mi posalje ? 10x unapred ! vvaske

baze.podataka.279 stemil, 15 Jul 98

Hi :) Jel ima neki dobar poznavalac DBase III+ pa da mi izvuče ime i lozinku iz ovog fajla prikačenog za poruku ? Ajd ko mi ovo završi može komotno da traži šta god oće ! pozdrav Miki lozinke.dbf

baze.podataka.280 rdejan, 15 Jul 98 -> #279, stemil

>> ime i lozinku iz ovog fajla prikačenog za poruku ? Fajl ne sadrži ime, niti lozinku. Pretpostavljam da se koristi kad obrazac za neki upit (jer sadrži tekst 'Lozinka', 'Ime' i još nešto), dok se sama šifra kontroliše unutar programa. Možda za ovo grešim, ali sam siguran da se lozinke ne stavljaju u .dbf format. :) Pozdrav, Dejan

baze.podataka.282 stemil, 16 Jul 98 -> #280, rdejan

> Možda za ovo grešim, ali sam siguran da se lozinke ne stavljaju > u .dbf format. :) Ajd molim te pogledaj dal možeš u ovom fajlu da nadješ to Ime i Lozinku. Nadam se da ćeš moći, i ako ne misliš da bi trebao ovde, onda mi pošalji na Mail, jer je programčić star ali ima vlasnika a ja ne mislim išta da zaradjujem s njim. Jednostavno mi treba za ličnu upotrebu !!! Hvala ti unapred :) Miki fajl.zip

baze.podataka.283 jujo, 17 Jul 98 -> #279, stemil

# # Hi :) # Jel ima neki dobar poznavalac DBase III+ pa da mi izvuce ime i lozinku # iz ovog fajla prikacenog za poruku ? # Ajd ko mi ovo zavrsi moze komotno da trazi sta god oce ! # U pitenju je prazna DBF tabela. yooyo:

baze.podataka.284 sabre, 18 Jul 98 -> #283, jujo

>> U pitenju je prazna DBF tabela. Bas prazna... :)

baze.podataka.285 nenadt, 18 Jul 98

u dokumentaciji za DBF baze stoji ovo: " Data type Data record storage Memo 10 digits representing DBT block number " zna li neko sta tacno ide u tih 10 bajtova

baze.podataka.286 guta, 27 Aug 98

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baze.podataka.287 nenadt, 14 Oct 98

ima li nekog ovde ko je radio sa PARADOX 4 paketom? interesuju me informacije oko kreiranja PARADOX.NET fajla

baze.podataka.288 vtosev, 20 Oct 98 -> #287, nenadt

> ima li nekog ovde ko je radio sa PARADOX 4 paketom? > interesuju me informacije oko kreiranja PARADOX.NET fajla Pitaj ovde ili mozda bolje na mail: vtosev@eunet.yu. Retko citam ovo.

baze.podataka.289 sane, 10 Nov 98

Da nema neko neki tutorial ili bilo shta na tu temu o osnovama programiranja u Visual Basicu, ili mozhda ako neko ima knjigu pa bi bio ljubazan da mi pozajmi da fotokopiram..

baze.podataka.290 nenadt, 16 Nov 98

zna li neko sta je sve potrebno od fajlova da bi se Microsoft DAO 3.0 preneo na ciljnu (korisnicku) masinu? Ako neko ima vec gotovu instalaciju gore pomenutog neka je posalje u mail (URL takodje pasuje). Unapred zahvalan, pj

baze.podataka.291 vvaske, 22 Feb 99

Čita li neko ovu temu ? Moj prijatelj ima jedno pitanje... Muči se sa PARADOX-om, pa ga interesuje, kad napraviš aplikaciju, i želiš da je daš/prodaš nekome, ima li načina da to učiniš bez da krajnji korisnik na svom disku ima i Paradox.exe (pdoxwin.exe ili kako se već zove..) Možda sam OVO PREVIŠE ZAMRSIO . . . Da uprostim .. Runtime za Paradox for WIN, bilo koja verzija... postoji li to .. Pozdrav, Vvaske

baze.podataka.292 voyager, 28 Feb 99

Problem: Imam bazu tipa Paradox 7. Tokom proteklih dana ja bazu punio podacima, punio, punio...i resim ti ja da pola pobrisem. Tada sam ustanovio da je baza pre brisanja imala 500kb i posle brisanja isto 500kb. Pitanje: Jel zna neko o cemu se radi? VoYaGeR

baze.podataka.293 saxon, 01 Mar 99 -> #292, voyager

> Imam bazu tipa Paradox 7. Tokom proteklih dana ja bazu punio > podacima, punio, punio...i resim ti ja da pola pobrisem. Tada sam > ustanovio da je baza pre brisanja imala 500kb i posle brisanja isto > 500kb. Ih, pa ovo cak i ja znam... Kad obrises podatke iz baze, slobodni prostor na disku zaista nece biti uvecan u skladu sa tvojim ocekivanjima. Prostor koje su zauzimali zapisi koje si izbrisao bice iskorisceni za upis novih, onda kada ih budes napravio. Za utehu, jedno duze vreme velicina tvoje baze ostace nepromenjena :) sve dok ne potrosis prostor oslobodjen brisanjem. Ako bi od Paradoxa zahtevao da ti svaki obrisani zapis vrati u vidu slobodnog prostora na disku, to bi od njega zahtevalo da non-stop siftuje levo-desno veliku kolicinu podataka po disku ne bi li zakrpio rupu od kilobajt-dva podataka izbrisanih usred baze. Za utehu, vecina "normalnih" baza podataka ima komande poput "Compress Data", "Optimize Database" ili "Pack" koje definitivno svode zauzet prostor na disku na najmanju mogucu velicinu. Nekada je ova operacija cist luksuz sa minimalnim dobitkom, a nekada nuzan poduhvat. Ko je nekad pravio aplikaciju u Access-u, pa na kraju uspeo da bazu/program od 3Mb svede na tricavih 500kb, zna o cemu pricam.

baze.podataka.294 voyager, 02 Mar 99

Da li postoji neki nacin da se baza (Paradox) zastiti password-om tako da je moze otvarati samo program koji "zna password", npr. program pravljen u delphiju? VoYaGeR

baze.podataka.295 kojai, 02 Mar 99 -> #294, voyager

Pa sa Delphiem dobijas program Database Desktop gde kreiras baze... Tu imas opciju da namestis sifru... U Delphiu kada ucitavas pita te za sifru, ali to mozes izbeci tako sto u mesto za....aa.(ne znam tacno) upises USERNAME=..., PASSWORD=... Provalices... Baza se kriptuje sifrom, znaci kljuc je sifra, tako da predstavlja dobru zastitu... :) Isa

baze.podataka.296 obren, 02 Mar 99 -> #292, voyager

> Imam bazu tipa Paradox 7. Tokom proteklih dana ja bazu punio > podacima, punio, punio...i resim ti ja da pola pobrisem. Tada sam > ustanovio da je baza pre brisanja imala 500kb i posle brisanja isto > 500kb. > > Pitanje: > > Jel zna neko o cemu se radi? Brisanjem si samo označio obrisane slogove u bazi kao slobodne, tako da sada budući podaci koje ubaciš u bazu mogu da idu preko njih. Ako želiš da smanjiš veličinu baze, pronađi u menijima opciju poput "Compact database" koja izbacuje te "rupe" i ostavlja samo validne tj. popunjene slogove. Ova operacija se svodi na kopiranje podataka u novu bazu, brisanje stare baze i davanje imena stare baze novoj bazi.

baze.podataka.297 obren, 02 Mar 99 -> #294, voyager

> Da li postoji neki nacin da se baza (Paradox) zastiti password-om > tako da je moze otvarati samo program koji "zna password", npr. > program pravljen u delphiju? Moralo bi da može, Senior koristi Paradox Engine (kernel na kome počiva sam Paradox kao paket) i on omogućava kriptovanje baze.

baze.podataka.298 kenza, 03 Mar 99 -> #292, voyager

> ustanovio da je baza pre brisanja imala 500kb i posle brisanja isto > 500kb. > Jel zna neko o cemu se radi? U Access-u se problem resava compact-ovanjem baze, pokusaj da pronadjes neku slicnu opciju.

baze.podataka.299 kojai, 03 Mar 99 -> #297, obren

>> Moralo bi da moze, Senior koristi Paradox Engine (kernel na kome >> pociva sam Paradox kao paket) i on omogucava kriptovanje baze. Ne razumem? U DB Desktopu se namesta sifra(najlakse), cela baza se kriptuje sifrom(dakle kljuc je sifra-najbolja zastita) i nivoi pristupa se daju po sifri... Sta ima jednostavnije? Isa

baze.podataka.301 madamov, 04 Mar 99 -> #292, voyager

Jel nabavio neko Delphi 4.0 ? Ima li nekih poboljsanja ? Goran. Zna li neko kako mogu vise edit box-ova da stampam na jednom papiru, po nekom mom rasporedu, koji ja zelim ? Zna li neko kako se stampa DBGrid ? Goran. > Jel nabavio neko Delphi 4.0 ? Ima li nekih poboljsanja ? Cuo sam da Delphi 4.0 ne radi za S3 virge grafickom, ali na sajtu ima patch. Toliko ja znam o cetvorci :) >> > Jel nabavio neko Delphi 4.0 ? Ima li nekih poboljsanja ? Mogu samo reci da program r

baze.podataka.303 uuud, 04 Mar 99

Jel nabavio neko Delphi 4.0 ? Ima li nekih poboljsanja ? Goran. Zna li neko kako mogu vise edit box-ova da stampam na jednom papiru, po nekom mom rasporedu, koji ja zelim ? Zna li neko kako se stampa DBGrid ? Goran. > Jel nabavio neko Delphi 4.0 ? Ima li nekih poboljsanja ? Cuo sam da Delphi 4.0 ne radi za S3 virge grafickom, ali na sajtu ima patch. Toliko ja znam o cetvorci :) >> > Jel nabavio neko Delphi 4.0 ? Ima li nekih poboljsanja ? Mogu samo reci da program radi fenomenalno... >> Cuo sam da Delphi 4.0 ne radi za S3 virge grafickom, ali na sajtu >> ima patch. Toliko ja znam o cetvorci :) Xex... Sto ne bi radio? Sa starim Diamondima radi, a to je takodje S3 chipset... Isa Zna li neko kako mogu program (Delphi 2.0) da minimizujem u taskbar (Win9x) ??? Hvala. Vidim da je ovde tesko dobiti odgovor na pitanje i pored toliko molbi, ali ajde da postavim jedno pitanje (mozda ce se neko konacno smilovati da mi odgovori). Dakle, treba napraviti program koji izracunava sledece : d:=sqrt(sqr(x2-x1)+sqr(y2+y1)) x1,x2,y1,y2 se unose preko edit boxova. E sad ja znam za onu proceduru Val, koja konvertuje String u Integer, ali problem je u tome sto funkcija SQRT radi samo za Real tip a ne za integer. I sad ne znam sta da radim. Ajde ljudi smilujte se, ako nista bar zato sto me nije mrzelo da pisem ovoliku poruku. ;)) Goran. > d:=sqrt(sqr(x2-x1)+sqr(y2+y1)) > x1,x2,y1,y2 se unose preko edit boxova. E sad ja znam za onu > proceduru Val, koja konvertuje String u Integer, ali problem je u > tome sto funkcija SQRT radi samo za Real tip a ne za integer. I sad > ne znam sta da radim. Pa treba da stavis u programu da su ti promenjlive float, a mislim da se to u delphiju zove Real, ako stavis integer onda ces moci da unosis samo celobrojne vrednosti. Razlog zasto nece SQRT je taj, sto ako izaberes integer, izlaz isto mora da bude integer, sto je ok ako recimo uneses 4, ali ako unesec 5 tu vec u rezultatu imas, i decimalni zarez, a to nije integer vec float, neznam kako se to radi u delfiju, ali recimo da ti ulazi bude integer a izlaz float, to bi onda bilo ok... >> u delfiju, ali recimo da ti ulazi bude integer a izlaz float, Sve je to OK, ali ne postoji, koliko sam ja uspeo da provalim, procedura koja konvertuje iz Stringa u Float. :( Val konvertuje iz stringa u integer, a Str iz integeraa u string, a ne znam kako da to isto radi za float (string->float). Goran. > Vidim da je ovde tesko dobiti odgovor na pitanje i pored toliko > molbi, ali ajde da postavim jedno pitanje (mozda ce se neko konacno > smilovati da mi odgovori). > Dakle, treba napraviti program koji izracunava sledece : > d:=sqrt(sqr(x2-x1)+sqr(y2+y1)) > x1,x2,y1,y2 se unose preko edit boxova. E sad ja znam za onu > proceduru Val, koja konvertuje String u Integer, ali problem je u dijak.rar

baze.podataka.305 zdravkod, 13 Sep 99

Jel postoji neki alat za popravljanje Paradox 5.0 baze podataka. Baza radi, samo je nemoguce pristupiti nekim poljima... Zdravko

baze.podataka.306 kiklop, 14 Sep 99 -> #305, zdravkod

> Jel postoji neki alat za popravljanje Paradox 5.0 baze podataka. > Baza radi, samo je nemoguce pristupiti nekim poljima... > > Zdravko Ima. Trenutno nisam kući ali poslaću večeras. BTW pogledaj na www.torry.ru ima određeni broj komponenti koje odrađuju taj posao a džabe su. Darko

baze.podataka.307 mansell, 30 Sep 99

Tema Access 2000: - Kako napraviti run-time verziju (da li postoji poseban program koji to radi ili mora preko switcheva u komandnoj liniji) ? - Na koji je nacin potrebno zastiti .mdb (.mde) da korisnici ne bi mogli da vide kod ili da nesto drugo cackaju ? p.s. Moze i varijanta za verziju 97.