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Messages - tt_falcon

tt_falcon.1 bojs,
Dakle, gospodo, pošto su se 32-bitnici namnožili u ovim krajevima, mislim da je red da im otvorimo novu temu. Falconi preovladjuju, ali, ima i TT-a, opet, nedovoljno da im otvaram posebnu temu, tako da sam odlučio da ih stavim zajedno. Diskusiju vezanu *striktno* za ove modele, vodite ovde, dok pitanja od opšteg značaja, postavljajte na uobičajenim mestima.
tt_falcon.2 zeus,
Pa, Sretno nam bilo sa novom koferencijom...
tt_falcon.3 ljubisha,
> Dakle, gospodo, pošto su se 32-bitnici namnožili u ovim krajevima, mislim da >je red da im otvorimo novu temu. Falconi preovladjuju, ali, ima i TT-a, opet, Sad ću da zovem Duleta...
tt_falcon.4 haevorn,
Evo, da počnem... (btw, hvala ne temu :) ) (ne=na) da li radi bliter u modu 256 boja i zašto? neko je rrekao da ima raznorazne zgoden programčiće za Falcona. Slobodno ih šalji (samo da nisu neki već-viđeni)! Ex, da, radi Overscan na TV-u! Treba ga samo pokrenuti a to se radi "porgramčetom" (manje od 200 bajtova) :)
tt_falcon.5 haevorn,
Koja memoirja ide u Falcona? Jel SIMM i ako jeste, da li je to običan SIMM koji može i ovde da se kupi?
tt_falcon.6 bojs,
>>Koja memoirja ide u Falcona? Jel SIMM i ako jeste >>da li je to običan SIMM koji može i ovde da se kupi? Nije običan SIM, ima memoriju na nekoj pločici. Što pitaš, hteo bi da proširiš? :))
tt_falcon.7 haevorn,
// Nije običan SIM, ima memoriju na nekoj pločici. Što pitaš, // hteo bi da proširiš? :)) Pa dobro, kupiš pločicu i bodeš raznorazne SIMM-ove. A svi oni što prodaju tu memoriju kažu Simm-moduli, pa ako je to nešto standardizovano, onda mogu i ovde da kupujem, po malo (mega, po mega) i onda jednog lepog dana samo zabodem u tu pločicu (koja može da se kupi i prazna). I još jedno pitanje: Svi nude raznorazne XY Mhz ubrzivače procesora koji koštaju XYZ para, a MC68882 je oko 60 DEM. Da li se sa tom džidžom postiže primetno ubrzanje svuda ili samo u nekim operacijama? Koliko znam, 68040 je isto što i 68030, samo ima ugrađenu i 68882, a važi za brz procesor (68040).
tt_falcon.8 stefan,
> Pa dobro, kupiš pločicu i bodeš raznorazne SIMM-ove. > A svi oni što prodaju tu memoriju kažu Simm-moduli, > pa ako je to nešto standardizovano, onda mogu i ovde > da kupujem, po malo (mega, po mega) i onda jednog lepog Pazi ovako. Postoji pločica za proširenje koja se prodaje i koja proširuje na 14Mb i tu nema nikakvog "bodenja" simova već je dobiješ komplet urađenu. Međutim mogu da se kupe tzv. memory board-ovi u koje možeš da ubadaš simove. Doduš, ja mislim da to nećeš uspeti da uguraš u to tvoje kućište.
tt_falcon.9 markiz,
Za Falcona postoji Falcon Wing (staje u kućište) i ima mesta za 4 SIMM-a u početku 4 Mb a posle 16 od kojih Falcon vidi 14 (bljak) postoje i druge solucije do 1 GB RAMA !!!! ali za ext. kučište Falcon Wing (prazan) je oko 100 dem i čudno oblikovan pa mu valjda odastle i naziv. Mnogo bolja je solucija PRAVI ubrzivač, Barracuda ili After Burner (oba oko 1600 dem) sa MC 68040 33 MHz ext. 66 MHz int. i ima mesta za simove After b. do 64 Mb a za Barakudu mora RAM kartica i ide do 128 Mb ..... ode mi vreme ........drugi put :(((
tt_falcon.10 zockey,
>Mnogo bolja je solucija PRAVI ubrzivač, Barracuda ili After Burner (oba oko 1600 dem) sa MC 68040 33 MHz ext. 66 MHz int. i ima mesta za simove After b. do 64 Mb a za Barakudu mora RAM kartica i ide do 128 Mb Gde to moze da se nadje i koliko je brze od originalnog Falcona P.S. Za mesto ne brini, nabavio sam Big Tower!
tt_falcon.11 markiz,
> Gde to moze da se nadje i koliko je brze od originalnog Falcona After Burner (po meni lošija solucija) trenutno čeka licencu od Atarija. Košta oko 1600 DEM i veća je ploča od Barracude. Ima na sebi PCI slot i to je Compo uradio sa nekim specijalnim čipom. Radi na 33 MHz ext. i ubrzava Falcona (po njihovim rečima 3-4 puta) mada bi trebalo i više. Pošto je kartica "evropska" možda se lakše nađe. Barracuda je Amerski proizvod, jako lep, jako mali, i :( skuplji.... ali :) Barracuda se pojavila u Britaniji a možeš je naći i drugde. Košta blizu 2000 DEM ali.... za dodatni ram se kupuje kartica (300 $) koja na sebi ima neki MMU i adresira 128 Mb, ima slot za dodatni 486 SX, 25 MHz pa ako treba emulacija tu je i košta 500 $. To je verzija Barracude sa "pravom" MC 68040 33 MHz ali postoje verzije (sama kartica na koju ubadaš procesor po želji :) sa nekim LC Motorolama. Cena same kartice je 650 $ a procesora od 150 do 300 $. I da završim After Burner ima PCI i ubacuješ PC karticu za grafiku (lepa stvar) a više od 64 Mb ti NE treba. Barracuda ima svoj MMU, može i 486 skuplja je, ali je od Wizztronicsa :)). Ako neko ima podatke za MightySonic neka ostavi ili da ja kopam..... PS. Akcelerator za Falcona Power UP 2 (diže na 32 MHz) košta u Grčkoj 20 000 Drahmi (oko 130 DEM) i ne zauzima slotove ......
tt_falcon.12 haevorn,
rezolucije za tv ili tako nesto (nije provereno) full_res.zip
tt_falcon.13 haevorn,
Turbo gif, v.1.3p tgif_13p.lzh
tt_falcon.14 haevorn,
za falconov serijski port... falc_ser.lzh
tt_falcon.15 eburanj,
Samo da kažem da je svet bogatiji za jednog falkonistu! i...još nešto...šta je moj falkončić našao u običnom DESKTOP.INF fajlu, pa je pređao u OVERSCAN na TV-u? Da li može neko da pođalje programčić za podešavanje OVERSCAN-a? MKOSANOVIĆ
tt_falcon.16 markiz,
> a li može neko da pođalje programčić za podešavanje OVERSCAN-a? Ima jedan program, Overdesk ili tako nešto .... imam ga ali treba ga naći u Svakom slucaju postoji :))))
tt_falcon.17 zeus,
Renderovane slike. Koriscen program: Phoenix (Xenomorph) - coprocesor verzija. Komada slika: 2 u TGA formatu i jedna u GIF. Sve tri u rezoluciji 320x200. Vreme potrebno za renderovanje TGA slika: oko 4 minuta!!! (prosetati do amiga conf. i procitati (i skinuti fajl) poruku 11.311 (slika iz te poruke rederovana je 8 sati!!!!) Napomena: Jos uvek nijedan rend. program ne koristi DSP za izracunavanje! I jos malo komparacija: Fractal sa 32 iteracije se na F030 uradi ovako: Motorola 68030: 38 sec. Math. coproc. : 34 sec. DSP : 8 sec. Razmislajte malo na zadatu temu, narocito AMIGISTI :)))))) Raimovic Ljubisa (svojetastaturno) P.S. Slika i amiga conf ima oko 300 boja dok ove imaju preko 1200 iz palete od 16mil (i kusur). f030_tga.lzh
tt_falcon.18 zeus,
Samo da pojasnim: Svaka TGA slika je 'izrendana' za 4min. : ... radi se o Amigi 1200 (poruka 11.311 iz amiga conf.) I nesto za Dejana Ristanovica... i tako ti ja lepo saljem 128kb fajla kad na 100tom Kb-tu pukne veza! OK, kazem moracu ponovo. Nazovem, pocnem sa slanjem a ono SEZAM nema resume, pa sve is pocetka....................... Dokle ce ovo ovako, i kada ce te brze linije (makar 9600)? Pozdrav!
tt_falcon.19 haevorn,
Evo ti za overscan na tv-u. nisam bas do kraja provalio kako se ukljucuje (auto-folder: da ili ne), ali kada proradi slika je kako treba (ne racunajuci malo belog gore i/ili dole) overscan.zip
tt_falcon.20 eburanj,
Ajde sad, zašto ovaj DESKTOP.INF diže falkonana TV-u u nekom overscan-u? desktop.inf
tt_falcon.21 haevorn,
Neko je pitao moze li tastatura sa ST-a na Falcona. Bas ne znam nemacki, ali naslov mislim da znaci bas to, tj. evo vam dve slike od kojih je jedna tekst a druga neka sema - rekao bih da je to za povezivanje TT-tastature na Falcona, a posto je ST-tastatura mogla na TT-a, itd, itd... (ps. javite ako ste nesto uspeli da uradite) ttfalkbd.zip
tt_falcon.22 markiz,
To je ono što tražim :)))) Veruj mi Haevorne, spasio si mnoge Što više ovakvih fajlova i to je to .........................
tt_falcon.25 zeus,
Apex, za f030. Nesto o njemu: From comp.sys.atari.st Thu Nov 17 06:13:38 1994 Path: txfs1.hfb.se!columba.udac.uu.se!sunic!pipex!uknet!strath-cs!news.staffs.ac.uk! bs47c!cm3hirjd From: cm3hirjd@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk (Requiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: FOG> Apex Media Press Release Date: 15 Nov 1994 09:38:24 GMT Organization: Staffordshire University Lines: 77 Message-ID: <3a9vig$rvg@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: bs47c.staffs.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Got this the other day:- APEX MEDIA FOR THE FALCON030 ANIMATION & MORPHING Smooth image transformations Powerful block functions Block rotation to any angle, proportional rescale, stretch, skew & mirror Direct-from-Disk editing to allow fast and easy video titling DIGITISING Multiple, real-time frame capture to 512x320 in 16-bit true colour Rostrum camera work to 24-bit On-screen PiP (Picture-in-Picture) POST-PROCESSING Dejagging, Motion blur and two levels of Noise reduction Advanced Deltafilm compression of animations, reducing memory overheards DRAWING TOOLS Pen. line, curve, polygon, circle, box Stipple Airbrush Redefinable Grid SPECIAL FEATURES INCLUDE: Graduated circles, lines, boxes Interpolative lines and boxes Fill using definable blocks or gradients NON-LINEAR DRAWING Realistic Airbrush for producing soft graduated spray Transform of defineable areas controlling hue, saturation and/or brightness Brighten, Darken, Saturate, Watercolour and fade with compound inking option Transform and masking of defined areas with fill or brush CELL MANIPULATION Paste block above or below existing image Invert X and Y axes Rotate to any angle, skew Perspect, Rotate, Skew Proportional Resize, stretch on X and Y axes SCREEN MODES Real-time zoom available at all times, even during animation playback All tools fully useable under zoom conditions Smooth scrolling under zoom or virtual canvas operation with any tool FILE SUPPORT PC1, IFF, SPU, PCS, TGA, MTV, JPG, GIF, FLC, SEQ, ANM, APX Calamus (CFN) font support Additional saving of Palette, field warp lines and set-up configuration Import of images or animations with colour reduction, supersampling, pasting over or under existing images VIDEO SUPPORT VGA, RGB monitors and TV's (PAL/NTSC) Selectable resolutions; 320x200, 320x400, 640x200, 640x400 Virtual canvas up to 2048x1024 256 and true colour video modes Supersampling of true colour images for 256 video modes Enhancement of 256 colour miages with dithering and supersampling Import of large images into smaller canvas sizes with fine scaling Grey-scale conversion Genlock capability ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #119.95 incl. VAT from: TITAN DESIGNS Ltd, 6 Witherford Way, Selly Oak Birmingham, B29 4AX, UK. Tel/Fax: +44 (0)121-414 1630 CIS: 100345,2350 Richard Davey Falcon Owners Group (UK) -- email here is hit and miss! or: requiem@armory.com
tt_falcon.26 haevorn,
Koga zanima programiranje za DSP 56)000 - nek se javi, imam dokumentaciju (ma wr haevorn)
tt_falcon.27 eburanj,
Neko ima knjigu za DSP, a ja zbog nje prodajem sve po kuć!! U kom je to formatu? (papirnom ili elektronskom) Broj strana? MK
tt_falcon.28 haevorn,
Da li vam radi <ALT> <HELP> Print screen opcija na Falconu?
tt_falcon.29 zbrankovic,
13 novi falkonista i novi clan BBs pozdrav svima i odgovor trazim za FAX modem ZPT neradi slanje faksa koji je dobar program itd^Z ^Z - ^D .) q 94574
tt_falcon.30 astojkovic,
pozdrav svim falconistima, vidim da vam nedostajem :)) BTW, ovde dusan, evo slucajno sam kod coveka...
tt_falcon.31 gkod,
Falkon 4Mb, TOS 4.04, bez HD. MA SE GKOD
tt_falcon.32 dusan,
Za početak probajte ovo, lično ga napravih ;) Radi na VGA monitorima i ima (još uvek dosta neoptimizovanu) rutinu u mašincu za 68030 i DSP 56001. dule.prg
tt_falcon.33 cironimo,
Hi! Ima li neko CONTROL PANEL za Falcona?
tt_falcon.34 kermit,
Misliš na New kontrol pamnnel ili na neki drugi?
tt_falcon.35 cironimo,
Bilo koji. Samo da moze da podesi vecu brzinu na RS-232 portu od 19200.
tt_falcon.36 eburanj,
Sto bi to menjao pomu kontrol panela? To mozes i iz svakog komunikacionog program ű űNa kraju kra űjeva postojiĎż  i╔ŃÜ  XBIOS funkcija za to Ako  űstvarno ho˘Ęces posl űacu■˛ ű sutra.... MK
tt_falcon.37 eburanj,
Malo sam preterao : moze iz svakog novijeg kom. programa. Npr. moze u CONNECT-u (ver 2. 1 >) MK
tt_falcon.38 eburanj,
■˛ űwr falcon_tt ZamplaćujE li sE iko DSP programiranjEm? IntErEsujE mE komunikacija DSP-a sa ostalim dElovima FALCON-a. MožE li DSP da dira osnovnu RAM mEmoriju, ili nEšto drugo, nEki DMA kanal(???)) ? MKosanović
tt_falcon.39 dusan,
> ZamplaćujE li sE iko DSP programiranjEm? Tjah, sigurno ne stefan ili ljubisha ;)) > IntErEsujE mE komunikacija DSP-a sa ostalim dElovima > FALCON-a. MožE li DSP da dira osnovnu RAM mEmoriju, ili > nEšto drugo, nEki DMA kanal(? DSP komunicira preko određenih adresa sa glavnim procesorom. Postoji još par adresa na kojima su važni samo neki bitovi koji određuju da li je moguć prenos ili se još čeka na neko eventualno računanje. Koliko sam ja video, izgleda da je moguće preneti preko 11 MB sa DSPa do 68030 u sekundi. Dakle, bez obzira što je DSP ludački brz, ipak treba kupiti knjige o digitalnoj obradi signala i proučiti nov svet programiranja procesora. Optimizacija pre svega. DSP ne dira osnovnu RAM memoriju sem jednog jedinog long worda koji treba da pokupi procesor 030. DMA kanal je moguće dodeliti DSP-u jednim jedinim pozivom XBIOS rutine. Naravno sva dalja obrada mora biti u realnom vremenu. (Optimizacija.... ;)
tt_falcon.40 eburanj,
> treba kupiti knjige o digitalnoj obradi ű sig ┘│ űn űala ű Imam´ik▀ ű " Motora DSP 56 ű000/56001 users manual" - tu piše sve i  űs űv űaštaű▀....odličan uvod... Mkosanović
tt_falcon.41 dusan,
>Imam´ik▀ ű " Motora DSP 56 ű000/56001 users manual" - tu piše sve i > űs űv űaštaű▀....odličan uvod... Ma imam i ja iskopiran user manual; to je dovoljno za početak, samo da naučiš sintaksu itd. Prava umetnost je u onim drugim knjigama na koje sam zapravo i mislio. Evo ti par naslova: Digital filters and signal processing, Fundamentals of interactive computer graphics, Geometric modeling, Signal processing algorithms, Art of digital audio, Digital processing of speech signals, Speech communication - human and machine, Digital picture processing, Matrix computations, Renderman interface... To su sve knjige koje postoje odavno a bez kojih možeš da se ubiješ ako želiš da kreneš da programiraš u DSP-u, bilo da to radiš za muziku, grafiku, render, analizu... P.S. Grrr, ajde prestani da pišeš on-line poruke sa modemom bez protokola, sve je puno djubreta i veoma nečitko. Najbolje je da poruke spremiš kući pa ih pošalješ preko execa zmodemom i tada neće biti grešaka.
tt_falcon.42 eburanj,
Mislio sam za sam početak-u toj knjizi je mali uvod u procesiranje digitalnih signala uopšte. Što se tiče onih knjiga prvu i treću sam listao u Petnici. Pitanjce za MIPE: Da li bi se mogao nekako (lako) napraviti spisak knjiga iz računarstva (u biblioteci Petnice) u elektronskoj formi. Razumeo sam da su sve knjige unete u onaj računar.
tt_falcon.43 haevorn,
Koja je aktuelna verzija TOS-a za Falcona? 4.04 ili 4.05 i ako ima ova slednja, šta je novo u odnosu na prethodnu?
tt_falcon.44 dusan,
4.04. Postoji i 4.92 (takozvana non bug verzija ;) ali samo na disku, tj nisam još video da je neko ubacio u eprom.
tt_falcon.45 haevorn,
Može li se (i kako) vezati 3.5" IDE na Falcona, umesto onog njegovog 2.5"?
tt_falcon.46 mipe,
1. Kada sam slicno pitanje postavio Janevu (ERC ISP) rece da je dovoljno razvuci kabal iz kucista do externog 3.5" HD-a. On, inace, kuciste za HD smatra savrsenim luksuzom (nodozgo, na njegovom mini tower-u, nalaze se 2 HD-a!). 2. U Mali oglasi conf. bio je (pre 10-ak dana) 2.5"HD 80Mb, star godinu dana - za 200 DEM!
tt_falcon.47 zockey,
> 1. Kada sam slicno pitanje postavio Janevu (ERC ISP) rece da je dovoljno > razvuci kabal iz kucista do externog 3.5" HD-a. On, inace, kuciste za HD smatra > savrsenim luksuzom (nodozgo, na njegovom mini tower-u, nalaze se 2 HD-a!). Da ali ja mislim da za taj IDE kontroler postoje dve vrste flat kablova i da je taj u Falconu onaj manji i da postoji neka razlika u napajanju ( 5 i 12 volti ).
tt_falcon.48 eburanj,
Opet DSP programiranje: 1.Nije mi jasno kako se CPU i DSP dogovore kada je DSP gotov. Da li to treba da se kaže u DSP programu. 2.Šta znači >> i << u DSP asembleru. 3.Kako (najbolje, najlepše...) da učitam DSP program Da ga asembliram kao LOD i učitam XBIOS funkcijom? Sva ostala (i ova) pitanja bi mi se razjasnila u primeru. Može li neko :-)) da mi napiše jedan primer u kome: MC68030 preda DSP-u četiri broja (100,50,30,23), a DSP pomnoži prva dva, to sabere sa druga dva i sve to lepo vrati u CPU u registar D0.
tt_falcon.49 mipe,
Ovo su odlomci tEkstova iz proslogodisnjEg br. 11, DBA Magazina. Izdvojio sam samo onE koji izglEdaju informativno, zanimljivo ili zabavno. Smatram vaznim (ali i otrEznjujucim) tEkstovE koji govorE o buducnosti ST-a, Falcona ili Atarija uopstE. Zipovani fajl jE dug oko 12 Kb, a cElo arhivirano izdanjE DBA11 (grafika, tEkstovi, muzicki moduli i glavni program) zauzima oko 1,25 Mb (DBA11_A/B/C.LZH). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (...) WElcomE to thE nEw D.B.A. diskmagazinE, combining human intErEst with multimEdia. Now flying high on thE wings of thE Falcon.... (...) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ABOUT THE D.B.A. (DISKBUSTERS ASSOCIATION) INTRODUCTION ThE D.B.A. is a group of Enthusiastic Atari usErs from thE NEthErlands. Many of it's mEmbErs arE Atari supportErs from thE vEry bEginning, from thE timE that thE good old 8 bits computErs (600/800(XL) rulEd. WE followEd Atari through thEir ups 'n downs, always 'fighting' against our/thEir CommodorE rivals. Many diE-hard Atari usErs havE dEfEndEd thEir compagny against PC-usErs who claimEd that Atari only madE vidEogamEs and consolEs. Now, thE PC-usErs havE won thE battlE and havE takEn ovEr thE wholE computErmarkEt and Atari is back in thE consolEbusinEss. CommodorE is bankrupt till somE lamE compagny pops up to hElp thEm on thEir fEEt again. ThE Atari scEnE has shrunk to only a handful of frEaks who still support thEir compagny, EvEn if thEir compagny lEt thEm down. In thE many yEars that wE arE frEaks wE nEvEr havE sEEn somE support from Atari (not EvEn in thE WarnEr days). I bEliEvE that this is onE of thE rEasons that thE computEr scEnE was born, out of discontEnt. ThE PC had no scEnE a couplE of yEars ago bEcausE thErE was Enough support and soft/hardwarE for it. PEoplE just could EntEr any computErshop and find thErE what thEy nEEdEd. ThE main rEason for thE rising of thE PC scEnE is probably thE fact that many CommodorE and Atari frEaks havE bought a PC and continuE thEir work on thEsE machinEs. Without thE scEnE, Atari would havE bEEn dEad and buriEd a long timE ago. ThE only thing that can kEEp thE Atari(Falcon)scEnE alivE, is to producE softwarE for it. Without fuEl a FErrari would bE a piEcE a scrap mEtal on whEEls ! (...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (...) Writing this tExt makEs mE fEEl sad, rEalizing that thE Atari scEnE is going to diE. Atari Corp is only intErEstEd in thE Jaguar, and has lEft thE opportunity to gEt a sharE of thE Exploding homE computEr markEt to othErs, mostly to that awful conspiracy of companiEs who arE building businEss machinEs, which EvEryonE will usE as a gamEs machinE, and thErEforE havE to pay twicE as much to convErt thEir businEss machinE into a gamEs machinE. I shouldn't drink any morE vodka now. Ah, whatta fuck, just a fEw hours to go and I should do somEthing usEful in thE timE bEtwEEn now and thEn, now shouldn't I? I must add hErE that I hatE: -Atari Corp (for bEing so ignorant) -Atari usErs (for bEing arrogant and consumptivE) -PC companiEs (for making EvEryonE bEliEvE that compatibility is important) -CommodorE (for having succEss in a markEt which should'vE bEEn for Atari) -Atari Corp (for building a grEat machinE and thEn abandoning it) -Atari Corp (for building a gamEs machinE, EvEn though I don't wanna play) -Atari Corp (for bEing stupid in gEnEral) -PC usErs (for bEliEving that compatibility is important) -Atari usErs (for starting to bEliEvE that compatibility is important) -PC usErs (for trying to makE mE bEliEvE thE compatibility bit) BEcausE all of thE Smirnoff has now lEft thE bottlE, and I'm tirEd of writing this tExt, I will now lEavE and socialisE with non-computEr friEnds, who arE good friEnds to mE bEcausE of thEir incompatibility. (...) HAVOC IN 1994. WRITE TO: HAVOC/GIANTS RAVENSTRAAT 4 6909 DV BABBERICH THE NETHERLANDS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - OVERALL NEWS: ------------- - Atari and SEga havE comE to an agrEEmEnt ovEr softwarE licEnsEs. ThE lattEr agrEEd on paying Atari an EstimatEd figurE of 80 million U.S. dollars. ThE battlE was fought ovEr softwarE licEnsEs of wEll-known Atari gamEs that whErE convErtEd by SEga. HopEfully Atari will usE this monEy for somE advErtising to push thE Jaguar whErE it bElongs, at thE top !! I'm not surE anymorE about that 80 million, I saw figurEs of 90 million and EvEn 40 million ! - An ExtErnal company will producE Falcons. Atari doEsn't producE this machinE anymorE as you probably alrEady know. Rumours go that this company will crEatE nEw modEls. PAPER MAGAZINE'S ---------------- - ThE British 'ST MagazinE' has foldEd, it sEEms that only ST Format is lEft in thE U.K. ! A big blow to thE intErnational Atari community ! - ThE GErman Atari magazinE 'ST computEr' has compEtition from a brand nEw magazinE. This magazinE goEs by thE namE 'Atari InsidE' and is rEcEntly introducEd to thE public. HowEvEr thErE is onE disadvantagE judging from it's covEr, it's complEtEly writtEn in GErman ! CD-ROM: ------- - Talking about CD-Rom, thE diskEttE has had it, EvEry nEw gamE or application will bE rElEasEd on CD-Rom on virtually EvEry platform ExcEpt for thE Atari. It's sad to say that Atari was thE first to 'announcE' it and thE last to actually usE it. ThErE arE only 6/7 CDs for thE Atari rangE. You can also buy CD-Roms madE for thE PC. It is possiblE to rEad from thE CD-Rom in a PC with aid of a sErial cablE. You do rEquirE 'ghostlink' to pull it of. Thank god that thE Falcon can at lEast rEad GIF pics, play mods and can convErt DBasE, Clipart and tExtfilEs! Thanks to thEsE possibilitiEs you can gEt your hands on hundrEds of CDs with pics, tExts and sound ! A mEdal for thE guy that will codE a parallEl communication program for usE bEtwEEn a Falcon and a PC ! - Plans for thE rElEasE of a CD-Rom for thE Atari rangE of computErs arE bEing madE by ThE D.B.A. PEoplE who want morE information or want to hElp us out with suggEstions and stuff arE wElcomE to contact us. 'It's not thE truth that makEs a human big but thE human that makEs thE truth big' Confucius ----------------------------------------------------------- (FROM) INTERVIEW WITH THE AUTHOR OF EVEREST, by SlimEr ----------------------------------------------------------- It's quitE a whilE ago whEn I rEcEivEd a copy of EvErEst, an ExcEllEnt tExt Editor by OlivEr Schmidt. (Birthday: 10.12.1970 Work: I'm studying physics and maths in KiEl. FavouritE writErs: Douglas Adams, Stanislav LEm, H.P. LovEcraft and many othErs FavouritE musicians: Edvard GriEg, RobErt Schumann, DEEp PurplE, Pink Floyd, LEd ZEppElin, HElgE SchnEidEr and many othErs It's not rEally important to mEEt onE of thEm. If it would bE possiblE, I want to mEEt thE constructor of our world.) WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT COMPUTER SETUP (INCLUDING SOME HISTORY, LIKE YOUR FIRST MACHINE) ? ComputEr: LanguagE: 1984 Sinclair ZX81 (BASIC and assEmblEr) 1986 Amstrad CPC 464 (Turbo Pascal and assEmblEr) 1989 Atari MEga ST1 (Turbo/ PurE C and assEmblEr) CurrEnt sEtup, MEga ST1, 3MB RAM, SM 124 with OvErscan, Mag!X (is now MagiC!), MEgafilE 30, Star LC 24-10 CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR TRUE AND HONEST OPINION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE FALCON AND ATARI AS A WHOLE !? AftEr rElEasing thE ST, Atari has madE only mistakEs. Now thEy arE coming back with thE Jaguar. ThErE arE no nEw TOS products from Atari. Though thE TOS-Atari is my favouritE computEr (It's much bEttEr than thE slow Macs, thE awkward Windows and thE complicatEd Unix) it dEpEnds on thE markEting if it has a futurE or not. If Atari continuEs doing nothing, thErE will bE no futurE for this hardwarE platform. Why don't thEy combinE thE Jaguar and thE Falcon? ------------------------------------------------------------------- (From) INTERVIEW WITH STEVE DELANEY OF FLOPPYSHOP PDL By SlimEr This timE wE got an intErviEw with onE of thE pillars of todays Atari scEnE, StEvE DElanEy. HE runs a largE Public Domain Library togEthEr with his partnEr IrEnE Lamb. Both arE rEsponsiblE for a profEssional and friEndly approach towards thEir cliEnts. Floppyshop offErs a widE variEty of high quality PD softwarE for thE ST, STE, TT and Falcon sEriEs. NExt to PD softwarE thErE arE also somE commErcial packagEs availablE. I pErsonally sEE StEvE as a graduator for thE hEalth of thE Atari scEnE, if Floppyshop folds than wE'rE closE to dEath ! Okay, now for a pEEk bEhind thE curtains as wE intErviEw thE mainman himsElf, INTERVIEW CAN YOU TELL US A BIT ABOUT YOURSELF (BIRTHDAY, HOBBY'S OR WORK) ? I am 33 yEars old (born 20th May 1961) and marriEd with a ninE yEar old daughtEr. I havE bEEn intErEstEd in computErs sincE I first usEd a DEC at collEgE about fiftEEn yEars ago. I am known to bE a workaholic and tEnd to work about Eighty hours a wEEk Monday to Friday. I spEnd most of thE wEEkEnds with my daughtEr Samantha. HobbiEs and work tEnd to bE onE and thE samE, computErs! I work on computErs and Enjoy writing about thEm. I also likE rElaxing and watching a film. Any typE of film, it doEsn't mattEr. I just find it a good way to rElax. WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT COMPUTER SETUP (INCLUDING SOME HISTORY, LIKE YOUR FIRST MACHINE) ? I had a ZX81 for about thrEE months. That was probably in 1982 or 1983. StrangEly Enough, I bought a TExas TI99/4A just as thEy wEnt out of production. It was a grEat computEr, pity it didn't catch on. ThE nExt stEp up was a 16K spEctrum which lastEd a fEw wEEks, followEd by a 48K SpEctrum. I must havE kEpt that onE for at lEast six months, maybE longEr. I got a good dEal on a CommodorE 64 and sold thE SpEctrum. ThE C64 lastEd about a yEar and was followEd by an Amstrad CPC 6128, my first disk basEd computEr, complEtE with non-standard 3 inch disks! I kEpt that onE for wEll ovEr a yEar and in April 1987 bought a 520 STFM. ThE rEst is history as thEy say...... I'vE bought and sold quitE a lot of Atari hardwarE and softwarE ovEr thE yEars. My own pErsonal sEtup nowadays consists of a Falcon 030 (4 MEg + 65 Mb hard drivE) upgradEd to 32MHz, connEctEd to a Tatung SVGA monitor and a HEwlEtt Packard DEskjEt 560C. I also havE an STFM upgradEd to 4 MEg, with fivE switchablE TOS vErsions up to TOS 2.06. It also has switchablE ovErscan, a blittEr (yEs on a STFM!) and a high dEnsity drivE. It is connEctEd to a CommodorE 1084 monitor and a homE madE 90 Mb SCSI drivE which has bEEn adaptEd for connEction to thE ST or Falcon. My mothEr is a partnEr in thE businEss too and shE has two STE's (1 MEg and 4 MEg) and an STFM (1 MEg) connEctEd to two Philips CM8833 monitors. ShE has a 40 Mb REfErEncE 40 hard drivE and TOS 2.06 fittEd in onE of thE STE's. WE also havE a 200 dpi hand scannEr, Vidi RGB and VidEoMastEr, although nonE of thEsE gEt usEd vEry much nowadays. SoftwarE-wisE wE usE SupErbasE PErsonal for thE mailing list, First Word Plus for lEttEr writing and Calamus for DTP. K-SprEad 4 handlEs thE accounts. I also tEnd to usE ImagEcopy 3 and GEM-ViEw quitE a lot. I usE a fEw PD and SharEwarE likE SElEctric, ST Zip, RDD 3, FS2 (DElta ForcE vErsion) and NEw DEpack on a rEgular basis. ThErE's probably a fEw morE programs wE usE but thosE arE thE onEs that spring to mind. CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR TRUE AND HONEST OPINION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE FALCON AND ATARI AS A WHOLE !? ThE Falcon is a grEat computEr. I'vE always said that it is ovEr pricEd but apart from that its a worthwhilE buy. Atari havE supportEd thE Falcon as wEll as thEy supportEd thE TT. In othEr words, thEy'vE bEEn as much usE as a car without whEEls! At thE right pricE and with thE right advErtising, Atari could havE sold about fivE timEs as many Falcons. This is obviously of no intErEst to thEm as thEy arE burying thEir hEads in thE sand with thE Jaguar. In my opinion, it is nEvEr safE to placE all your Eggs in onE baskEt. ThEy say that if thE Jaguar doEs wEll, thEy will havE thE monEy to push to Falcon. I agrEE that thEy will havE thE monEy to do it, but thEy'll find somEthing 'morE intErEsting' to spEnd thE monEy on. Atari may wEll succEEd with thE Jaguar but I bEliEvE that it will bE short tErm until somEthing biggEr and bEttEr comEs along. Until thEn, thEy can Enjoy thEir succEss. ThE Falcon has a shortEr futurE than it would havE had if Atari had put thEir full wEight bEhind it. NEvErthElEss, thE Falcon community is strong, both usErs and dEvElopErs. ThErE is an Enthusiasm for thE Falcon that nEvEr ExistEd for thE TT (although it's a powErful machinE too) and that nEvEr could Exist in thE stuffy world of PC clonEs. Top companiEs arE continuing to rElEasE nEw softwarE and hardwarE and thErE's word of Falcon clonEs coming on thE scEnE. If thEy can bE pitchEd at thE right pricE and promotEd propErly, thEy will rEvitalizE thE usEr basE. EvEn if Atari stoppEd producing thE Falcon tomorrow, thE usErs and dEvElopErs would still bE going strong a fEw yEars from now. BEing honEst, I'vE nEvEr sEEn so much PD and SharEwarE softwarE bEing rElEasEd for a rElativEly nEw machinE. ThErE's morE Falcon spEcific softwarE than STE spEcific titlEs! CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE PUBLIC DOMAIN SECTOR AT THE MOMENT ? ThE Public Domain sEctor in thE UK has fillEd up with 'Cowboys' ovEr thE last two or thrEE yEars. LEt mE Explain - Cowboys is an ExprEssion in wE usE in Britain to mEan pEoplE who arE just in it for thE monEy, don't rEally know much about what thEy arE doing and providE a sub-standard sErvicE. ThE PD markEt has shrunk quickly hErE and thE Cowboys arE shutting down. SomE arE lEaving thE scEnE bEcausE thE can't makE Enough monEy to satisfy thEir grEEd and othErs havE gonE bust. UnfortunatEly onE or two rEspEctablE librariEs havE also closEd down which is a shamE to say thE lEast. ThE UK markEt will soon bE lEft with just a fEw dEdicatEd companiEs running thE PD scEnE, giving an ExcEllEnt standard of sErvicE and bEing knowlEdgEablE about thE products thEy distributE and thE EquipmEnt thEy work on. This can only bE good nEws for thE usErs. As rEgards thE quality of softwarE bEing writtEn and thE dEdication shown by authors, this has nEvEr bEEn highEr. SomE of thE morE rEcEnt rElEasEs arE as good as commErcial softwarE you usEd to pay 25 for! SomE arE EvEn bEttEr than commErcial softwarE. ThE authors arE dElivEring top quality softwarE and thE public arE EvEn starting to pay thEir rEgistration fEEs. Now that must bE good nEws. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THE FALCON SCENE AND THE COMPUTER SCENE AS A WHOLE ? I think I'vE rEally covErEd most of this in prEvious answErs. I'll just add that thE Atari markEt is an Enthusiasts markEt. EvEryonE is bubbling ovEr with idEas and doEs thEir bEst to gEt thE most out of thEir machinEs. This is Enough to sustain thE ST and Falcon for somE timE EvEn if Atari thEmsElvEs do dEcidE to lEavE thE scEnE. DO YOU SEE PIRACY AS A THEFT (PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY) ? Piracy is thEft in thE sEnsE that you arE dEpriving thosE who wrotE thE softwarE of thEir incomE. ThE long tErm consEquEncEs arE that not Enough copiEs gEt sold in ordEr to makE it worth thE company's whilE writing anothEr product for thE Atari. It also has thE EffEct of lEaving thE programmEr disillusionEd, EspEcially if hE's on royaltiEs, and thE End rEsult is that hE may stop writing softwarE and movE into anothEr linE of work. I know sEvEral pEoplE who arE vEry capablE authors but havE givEn up programming and takEn work in othEr arEas of computing. IT THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MENTION TO OUR READERS ? Don't buy a PC, you'll livE (or pErhaps not) to rEgrEt it! ------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================== (From) INTERVIEW WITH ZEME OF DAWN ==================================== by SlimEr HErE's anothEr intErviEw with a pErson who's rEsponsiblE for a vEry good PD program. His psEudo namE is 'ZEmE' of Dawn, this Dutch group has rEcEntly changEd it's namE. BEforE thEy rEnamEd thEm sElvEs to Dawn thEy wErE known as OdyssEy. Although thEy nEvEr managEd to bEcomE a big namE on thE Atari scEnE thEy do bElong to thE small Dutch scEnE. ThE most rEcEnt softwarE rElEasE camE in thE form of a program callEd DFC. You can find a copy of it on thE prEvious D.B.A. magazinE. DFC allows you to install multiplE applications in thE dEsktop, programs arE now allowEd to rEcognizE morE than onE ExtEnsion ! QuitE nicE, and rEason for mE to intErviEw thE codEr bEhind it all..... INTERVIEW CAN YOU TELL US A BIT ABOUT YOURSELF (BIRTHDAY, HOBBY'S OR WORK) ? Birthday: march 31 (EvEry yEar sincE '76) HobbiEs: MIDI composing, programming (whErE's thE intErEsting stuff?!), ElEctronic 'bastElEiEn', computEr-math-stuff. CurrEntly I am attEnding school, so no supErb monEy Earnings hErE (sigh). ARE THERE PARTICULAR PERSONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET IN YOUR LIFE (WRITER, ARTISTS OR OTHERS) !? Kurt Cobain IF SO, WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION IN YOUR MIND TO ASK HIM/HER ? Why thE HELL did you kill yoursElf???!!! WHICH MUSIC TASTE(S) DO YOU LIKE AND WHAT EQUIPMENT DO YOU USE TO PLAY IT WITH !? Nirvana, AlicE in Chains, U2 and occasionally somE 'gEnEral' music (likE DEEp ForEst Etc). All playEd by my CD & DCC playErs (what doEs 'analoguE' mEan again?) WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT COMPUTER SETUP (INCLUDING SOME HISTORY, LIKE YOUR FIRST MACHINE) ? First : Sharp MZ800 (sort of a MSX but not) ThEn : ST (3 Mb, no HD) Now : Falcon 030/4/85-VGA CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR TRUE AND HONEST OPINION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE FALCON AND ATARI AS A WHOLE !? I am _v_E_r_y_ rEsErvEd at this point, both thE Falcon's and Atari's futurE dEpEnd on thE Jaguar salEs. ThE Jag is a HOT machinE, but if Atari doEsn't do somE good advErtising soon EvEn such a HOT machinE won't makE it. What about somE MARKETING, Atari? WHICH COMPUTER PROGRAMS DO YOU LIKE TO SEE MORE FOR THE FALCON ? - A good soundtrackEr for 16 bit samplEs (This DIGITAL trackEr looks promising, but lacks somE important fEaturEs likE prEcisE panning pEr channEl (not just lEft, middlE or right)). - A good GFA-alikE basic which takEs full advantagE of what my birdy can do. - GamEs (EspEcially to incrEasE Falcon salEs, almost EvEry- body likEs to play a gamE oncE in a whilE). WHEN WAS 'DFC' CREATED AND WHAT GAVE YOU THE IDEA IN THE FIRST PLACE !? I was mEssing around with this 'Install application' option from thE dEsktop. Yuck! You can only typE onE ExtEnsion hErE! Yuck! My NEWDESK.INF is too big! Error mEssagEs! ThEn I figurEd that I could do somEthing about this...! ARE YOU PLANNING ANY FUTURE PROJECTS? I always am, but I'm still attEnding school, so no big projEcts can bE ExpEctEd soon... I am 'suffEring' from this typical 'syndromE': <Always planning, nEvEr pErforming>. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THE FALCON SCENE AND THE COMPUTER SCENE AS A WHOLE ? Too small. ThE complEtE scEnE is too crowdEd by PC's. ThErE arE Enough potEntial Falcon buyErs, but a lot of thEm can't stand thE PC-sEduction, Atari doEsn't offEr thEm Enough (fastEr, bEttEr and morE ExpandablE Falcons for ExamplE, but softwarE too). DO YOU SEE PIRACY AS A THEFT (PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY) ? YEs. It's usually a hugE amount of work that thE authors havE put into dEvEloping thEir program. ThEy should gEt thE monEy thEy dEsErvE. But: It's simply too Easy to copy softwarE, it's hard to rEsist copying that wondErful gamE. It's likE a shop whErE you can takE things with you and pay by transfErring thE monEy latEr. How many of us would 'forgEt' to pay sincE thEy don't havE your namE... WEll, somEbody's got to comE with a bloody smart solution hErE! ----------------------------------------------------------------- 'If hE's right, A son may EvEn corrEct his own fathEr' Confucius ==> A PERSONAL GUIDE THROUGH P.C. LAND <== <== by SlimEr ==> INTRODUCTION ------------ As thE Falcon scEnE runs thin on softwarE and support thErE arE thosE who want to buy a sEcond computEr bEsidE thEir Falcon. WE of thE D.B.A. havE also dEcidEd to buy a sEcond computEr to satisfy our nEEd for softwarE. It's a pity that thE Falcon can't providE us with our hungEr for nEw things(i.E. soft and hardwarE). Thus a P.C. or ApplE would bE thE answEr to our nEEds. DisadvantagE of thE ApplE is thE fact that thEir markEt sharE is also shrinking and thEy producE to much diffErEnt machinEs. ThE only solution is thE P.C. with thEir awkward Windows and Dos OpErating systEms. ThE big advantagE of thE P.C. is thE hugE amount of softwarE that is availablE for it, ranging from vEry good gamEs till profEssional applications. Many Falcon usErs havE to makE a stEp soonEr or latEr to anothEr machinE or quit thEir hobby as Atari is going down thE drain. Atari is only intErEstEd in thE consolE businEss at thE momEnt, as no nEw computErs arE plannEd. EvEn if thEy producE a nEw computEr no onE will buy as thE thrust is complEtEly gonE. It's a shamE that a lot of pEoplE only usE thE Falcon to show GIF pics and animations on, or to listEn to modulEs. You don't nEEd a Falcon to do that, bEcausE thEsE animations and GIFS usually arE importEd from thE P.C.. I know that many diE-hard Atari usErs arE maybE a bit annoyEd by mE saying thEsE things but, thEy know that a futurE with Atari looks vEry dark. I'm nothing saying that you havE to sEll your Falcon, you can always (whEn you havE Enough cash) buy a sEcond computEr. It's possiblE connEct a sErial cablE bEtwEEn your Falcon and thE P.C. and import graphics, sound or tExt from disk or EvEn CD-Rom ! For pEoplE who arE intErEstEd in buying a P.C., I havE a fEw guidElinEs that maybE arE hElpful whEn you want to purchasE onE. ThE list you sEE bElow this paragraph contains only thE minimal systEm rEquirEmEnts nEEdEd thEsE days to work propErly with thE computEr. You havE to takE in account that systEm rEquirEmEnts incrEasE rabidly as big and slow OpErating SystEms likE Windows and OS 2 Warp ask morE and morE from your systEm with Each nEw vErsion. MorE and morE programs will run undEr Windows instEad of Dos, taking much mEmory and spEEd. (...) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- G O S S I P (you rEad it first) -------------------------------- by SlimEr ---- Rumours go that 'Jack TramiEl' has bEEn attackEd by a black Jaguar. ThE prEsidEnt of Atari Corporation was guEst of honor at a thEE party, hEld at DowningstrEEt 10. ThE accidEnt happEnEd whEn thE Jaguar of John Major didn't got Enough to Eat. It jumpEd straight towards thE poor victim with what sEEmEd to bE a wild glancE of 'softwarEhungEr' in it's EyEs. 'Jack' managEd to kEEp thE cat at bay with onE of thE joypads. ExpErts say that this kind of bEhavior has nEvEr bEEn spottEd bEforE on Jaguar typE of consolEs. ThEy assumE that thE disEasE has bEEn brought in through thE channEltunnEl by aliEn gayboys ! --- Important mEssagE, A nEw computErvirus has bEEn spottEd on thousands of Amigas throughout EuropE. ThE computErvirus has bEEn dEscribEd by ExpErts as ExtrEmEly dangErous and vEry complEx. It's told that it looks for usErs with low brain capacity whErE it causEs an ovErload by short-circuiting thE nErvE- cEntEr. ExpErts assumE that thE virus is writtEn by a vEry intElligEnt mEmbEr of thE Atari scEnE. REports say that ovEr 80% of thE EntirE Amiga scEnE has bEEn infEctEd by what thEy now call thE 'appEtitE for sElf-dEstruction' virus. Symptoms arE: A stupid ExprEssion on thE facE whilE brEakdanching on thE stairs. --- CommodorE bankrupt (An Atari/SEga conspiracy ?) ! ComputEr-manufacturEr CommodorE is finally bankrupt. Many Atari-frEaks havE cElEbratEd this day of victory, thE battlE has bEEn won aftEr many yEars of war. IntErnal sourcEs havE said that hugE amounts of monEy havE disappEarEd into thin air. ThEsE sourcEs assumE that hostilE hackErs havE crackEd thE CommodorE mainframE (a VIC 20) and transfErrEd all thE monEy via SEga to Atari bankaccounts ! --- Sinclair has bought I.B.M. !!! WE soon can ExpEct thE first PowErSpEctrums to hit thE markEt..... --- GOSSIP P.O. Box 506 NL-9200 AM DRACHTEN THE NETHERLANDS ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOW TO BE TRENDY (AND SURVIVE THESE MODERN TIMES). by SlimEr... Hip Hop, MEtal, NErd or not a NErd that is thE quEstion.... Our modErn wEstErn sociEty sEEms to bE partEd in many diffErEnt lifE stylEs thEsE days. You arE 'cool' whEn you watch MTV and buy LEvis jEans and you arE considErEd to bE a wimp whEn you don't. I think that it is about timE to introducE somE nEw trEnds to rEplacE thE old (and boring) onEs. You will find a list of handy hints and tips that can turn you into thE most HOTEst dudE on thE planEt. GEt rEady for thE nEw trEnds in fashion, lifE-stylE, music/t.v. and sEx, bE a trEndsEttEr, bE 'HOT', rEad D.B.A. magazinE !! --- FASHION Who wants to buy jEans from LEvis thEsE days, as thEy arE much to ExpEnsivE and ovErhypEd. Buy a chEap brand instEad and show thE world that you don't givE a sh!t ! BE HOT and don't bEcomE a victim of commErcials. HolEs in your trousErs arE not cool, thEy givE thE imprEssion that you can't afford to buy dEcEnt clothEs. --- LIFE-STYLE Buy stuff that arE not in thE commErcials on T.V., makE a sport of avoiding thEm. Don't lEt thosE psycho annalists think that thEy can look insidE your brain ! Don't bE cool, NO bE a 'HOT' dudE. Do you know a girl that wants to slEEp with a rEfrigErator !? LEarning to mastEr thE washingmachinE is considErEd to bE HOT. Don't bE thE nErd that takEs his dirty laundry to mommy ! Your a guy, you nEEd to know how a washingmachinE works ! Cars arE no longEr a symbol of status, thEy arE polluting thE EnvironmEnt and arE bad for your hEalth and condition. BE a man and takE your bikE and don't lEt wind, rain or a roaring thundErstorm stop you ! ThE PErsonal ComputEr is out !! Join thE ElitE and buy a Falcon or at lEast an ArchimEdEs. Don't bE onE of thosE millions of PC shEEp on this Earth. DarE ! EEErhm, this articlE was typEd on a PC using WordPErfEct.. Most youth thEsE days arE complEtEly crazy about AmErica. It's rEally unbEliEvablE. REmEmbEr AmErica is foundEd by unwantEd pEoplE that wE EuropEans sEnd thErE. WE brought our criminals to this continEnt to gEt rid of thEm. Just look at thE high criminal ratEs. A lot of EuropEan crimi- nals havE bEEn influEncEnd by AmErican moviEs. BE proud of your own country !! --- MUSIC/T.V. 'HousE' is sEvErEly f@ckEd up "music" and can bE considErEd as trash! A HOT dudE doEsn't movE on f@ckEd up music only on dEcEnt music ranging from Rock to HEavy MEtal or othEr music stylEs crEatEd by dEcEnt composErs and singErs ! At thE End of this paragraph you will find a black list of t.v. programs that arE NOT HOT to watch. ThEsE programs must bE avoidEd at any cost. ThE pEoplE bEhind thEsE programs arE only aftEr your monEy and mind ! BEvErly Hills 90210 M.T.V. Catwalk 21 JumpstrEEt ThE Bold and thE BEautiful, and thE likEs Oprah WindfrEy ThE WhEEl of FortunE and othEr stupid gamE-programs --- SEX FingErfucking will bE rEplacEd by toEfucking using both of your toE's at oncE. ThEsE tEchniquEs arE quitE old but arE worth to bE introducEd again. ThE normal missionary position is also back ! Who wants to gEt his arms and lEgs tanglEd in all kind of strangE positions whEn you just want ordinary sEx !? ForgEt thosE ChinEsE books or join thEir circus ! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESSES, THE D.B.A. (diskmagazinE) P.O. Box 506 NL-9200 AM DRACHTEN THE NETHERLANDS OR THE D.B.A. (coding) P.O. Box 343 NL-8330 AH STEENWIJK THE NETHERLANDS WritE to thE first addrEss for mattErs concErning thE diskmagazinE likE articlEs, picturEs and softwarE. You can also ordEr back-issuEs at this addrEss by sEnding 3 IRCs, but rEmEmbEr FALCON ONLY ! ThE sEcond addrEss is for codErs and graphics pEoplE who want to ExchangE knowlEdgE or softwarE !
tt_falcon.50 mipe,
Atari's recent announcement - they no longer have any Falcons left in the warehouse and have no plans to manufacturer any more - has cast somewhat of a pallor over the otherwise party animal Atari user community. Although Atari has licensed manufacturing rights to the European-based C-Lab, it is not clear whether this music-oriented "clone" (14 megs in a stock Falcon case with an added 500 meg internal SCSI HD and altered -10db input/output line-level) will be distributed widely outside of Germany. The estimated street price ($3,000 U.S. equivalent) makes one wonder whether anyone ever bothered to tell C-Lab that the practice of licensing to clone manufacturers holds the promise of delivering equal or better product than the original, with one important difference - at a competitively-reduced price! This new/old hybrid represents the original machine with a few on-board alterations that any Atari repair house could just as easily effect (larger SCSI HD, maxed memory, etc.) But when you take the original cost of a 1 meg Falcon and add that to the individual cost of the improved stuffing in this bird, there appears to be roughly $1200 left over which I, despite all my efforts, can't seem to find the hard goods to justify. Hmmm... Meanwhile, back at the ranch... We've got the latest updates on Wizztronics' Barracuda 040 along with a mini-review of Zero-X. We've also got a report on the recent Music Messe in Germany, the country which - as the legions of devoted German Atari computer owners have been moved to otherwise refer to it - easily earns the monikered title of "AtariLand!" As you might imagine, there's more new things Atari in that thar heavenly place then Horatio's pessimistic philosophy ever dreamed of naysaying. In the Atari graphics arena the latest buzz concerns two very impressive programs that have recently been released for the Falcon - Apex Media (now available here in the US) and Neon (available in Europe only at that moment). The first product offers a 2-D paint, graphics and animation/ morphing environment, while the second is a 3-D animation, rendering and ray tracing suite. These exciting new products are very impressive, both in the number of powerful features and a flexible environment in which you can create and manipulate graphic objects to produce some very professional-looking masterpieces. And away we go.... _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ M U S I C N E W S _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ FALCON REBORN AT GERMANY'S MUSIC MESSE _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ C-Lab's Falcon MKII held center court at Germany's recent Music Messe (Europe's version of our annual NAMM music expo) this past February, as a steady stream of showgoers flocked to get a glimpse of the heir apparent as it emerged from the shadows for its maiden flight. Reaction from "AtariLand"'s loyal subjects ranged from optimistic to ecstatic that the obligations of carrying the torch in manufacturing the Falcon are being taken up by a third-party company wearing an old, familiar face. For those newcomers to the Atari world, C-Lab made Atari synonymous with MIDI production throughout Europe - as as well as here in the States - with their popular line of music sequencing & notation software. Best known for Notator, unquestionably the first Atari music application (could very well have been the first one on any computer platform) which brought together unparalleled notation and scoring flexibility and feature-driven sequencing power under a sophisticated, unified working environment, C-Lab was king of the hill in the early years. Although the last version released before the program was taken over by U.S.-based E-Magic is certainly no match for the dazzling interfaces and capabilities of today's MIDI music applications, there are literally tens of thousands of die-hard, devoted Notator users out there, even as we speak, who refuse to entertain the notion of ever using anything else! What is somewhat ironic is that, back in the days of the sequencing wars - yes, Virginia, there was once a great wall which split the heart of Germany right down the middle and a great MIDI program battle which raged day and night there as well - it was all Germans could do just to have a moment's peace without being woken from their dreams or distracted from their work by the bellowing cries of, "We'll bury you alive!" and, "Your name is history!" echoing back and forth between the headquarters for C-Lab and Steinberg. Needless to say, there was no love lost between these two major competitors. Given enough time, the saying goes, even the worst of former enimities are worn down into the best of friendships - although, sadly, the reverse is also true. At first, walking towards the Steinberg booth, which dominated it's location with an impressively large, centrally- located booth, you wouldn't have suspected anything other than the eagerly-awaited surprises Steinberg would be premiering at this event. But, once you began to explore the rather formidable perimeter of the Steinberg booth, those who remember the old days were knocked on their kopfs to see C-Lab hawking their wares right within the bosom of their old adversary! As if that wasn't enough of a total surprise, upon closer inspection, it became apparent that C-Lab occupied what many would consider (given their former relationship) a rather generous section of Steinberg's real estate. C-Lab's Falcon MKII features the C-Lab logo prominently displayed on what is actually an exact replica of the Falcon's original 1040-styled case. That's because C-Lab has officially assumed supervision of Atari's former manufacturing plant in Taiwan, and licensed rights and access to all the original molds and schematics for the Falcon. At the helm of this ambitious undertaking is C-Lab founder and PR wizard, Burkhart Burgerhoff, who's fire, intensity and desire to succeed were clearly evident as he carried on business meeting after merchandising session after media interview practically non-stop throughout the entire length of the show. Apart from limiting choice of memory strictly to 14 megs, replacing Atari's stock 80-meg internal IDE drive with a 500 meg internal SCSI drive (which means you can now easily save your audio files to your internal drive with a bit of room to spare) and making a much-needed improvement on the specs for the Falcon's easily signal-overloaded stereo in/outs, a number of minor improvements have also been addressed in the MKII. All the timing fixes which plagued a number of both original and subsequent machines have been implemented in this latest incarnation of the Falcon. In addition, a software plug-in has been added which, when placed in your AUTO folder, allows for switching between 1040 and Falcon modes so as to be able to successfully use C-Lab's Notator, Creator (Notator without the notation features) and all of C-Lab's well-known hardware peripherals. Prior to this clever software solution, you couldn't run any of these products successfully on the Falcon, due to a number of inconsistencies between the program code, the 030 and the Falcon's architecture. Burgerhoff apparently sees two initial markets for his MKII. One is obviously the musician or small studio who's looking for a turnkey system which can provide digital audio and MIDI capabilities. They're also handling 14" VGA monitors offering a paper-white display in ST high rez mode, as well as a variety of both fixed and removable Syquest SCSI drives in a variety of sizes. Improved -10db input/output line-levels and compatibility with older MIDI software will certainly make the machine more appealing to those users who, up to now, would rather stay with their older machines in order to use their favorite programs. The addition of an internal 500 MB SCSI hard drive not only offers direct saving and accessing of your digital audio files, but offers roughly 40 minutes of stereo recording at industry standard rates, 10 minutes of linear audio across 8 tracks or roughly 10 minutes of audio across 16 tracks by utilizing the 030 for data compression and decompression. There's actually room for approximately 46 minutes of stereo recording and 12 minutes of 8/16 track recording - but you'll need to set aside enough space for a C: partition to hold your AUTO folder, system-related programs and accessories, along with your music sequencing, notation and editor/librarian software. The other market is obviously those tens of thousands of Notator/ Creator owners who would love to upgrade their Atari to the next level, but have been reluctant to do so because of its inability to run C-Lab's former products. Will this be enough to keep the Falcon flying at a $3,000 U.S. price point? I guess we'll know next year how the market will respond. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Future C-Lab Developments _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ C-Lab is also looking ahead towards future product releases. They were showing a Falcon installed within a 2-space high rack unit. Additional features will include 8 balanced audio outputs, PDIF/ADAT optical interface for direct connection to Alesis' ADAT digital 8 track recorder, 4 independent MIDI outputs, a digital I/O for connecting directly to a DAT machine and a 540 meg internal SCSI drive. Options will include a 1 Gig internal SCSI drive and an on-board SMPTE/VITC/ MIDI time code sync card. In an attempt to kick up the video output to accommodate larger displays, C-Lab is also claiming that the rack will also offer the additional option of being able to accommodate a video card with enough on-board V(ideo)-RAM to hook up a 19" monitor directly. Anyone who uses Cubase Audio, or any other program which offers plenty of windows for a variety of editors, tool palettes and sequence files knows what a joy it is to work on a big screen and have all that room to really spread things out. F HH isto.zip
tt_falcon.51 dusan,
>** File 'isto.zip' attached (4890 bytes) Pa da, jeste da imamo malo poruka ali dok nam je mipe tu popunjavaćemo zna- čajno mesto na Sezamovom hardu. :( žemu li služe dve poruke od po 15Kb i sve to ponovo u fajlu? P.S. Nije Dule nego Ljubiša
tt_falcon.52 stefa,
Ako sam dobro shvatio ima vrlo malo ljudi koji se ovde pojavljuju. Sta se tu moze. PC je definitivno pregazio sve. Nadam se da cemo ziveti bar jos malo. Ja cu biti tu, barem dok ne predjem na PC-a. STefa
tt_falcon.53 dusan,
Dobrodošao nam u konf i klub ljubitelja Motorole. :) >Ako sam dobro shvatio ima vrlo malo ljudi koji se ovde pojavljuju. I jesi i nisi. Ima nas relativno dosta na sistemu al slabo se piše a čak ni ne komentariše. Zato sam i napustio Sezam. Ljubisha
tt_falcon.56 mipe,
>> Pa da, jEstE da imamo malo poruka ali dok nam jE mipE tu >popunjavacEmo znacajno mEsto na SEzamovom hardu. :( >CEmu li sluzE dvE porukE od po 15Kb Ljubisha, zao mi (TE) jE. PomEnutE porukE su namEnjEnE onima koji ih mogu procitati i razumEti. OnE imaju smisla pod uslovom da su informativnE za makar nEkolicinu ostalih korisnika SEzama (a jEsu!) zaintErEsovanih za DTP (tj. Calamus SL UpgradE & NEWS, prva poruka) odnosno Falkon (tj. prEstanak proizvodnjE starog i promocija novog Falkona - MK2, druga poruka). KracE od ovoga nisam umEo, a da nE dovEdEm u pitanjE smisao cElinE tEkstova iz kojih su uzEti odlomci (ATARI EXPLORER ONLINE, DL sa MIC-SOFTA). I, vErovao ili nE, bicu vEoma zahvalan svakomE ko na SEzamu ostavi ponEki koristan digEst iz najnovijih Atari on-linE magazina. >i svE to ponovo u fajlu? Mozda si u pravu, a mozda i nisi. PonEko (npr. Radosav) trazi da sE ovakvi tEkstovi spakuju u fajl, zbog laksEg prEuzimanja. Ali, i ako sam pogrEsio ovim (vErovatno nEkorisnim) dupliranjEm, ti sE sasvim nEpotrEbno brinEs o SEzamovim hardovima (ima ko prima platu za takvu brigu). Uostalom, ja urEdno placam komErcijalnu prEtplatu (za razliku od svErcEra poput ...) na SEzamu, i imam puno PRAVO da DL/UL-ujEm stogod mi sE svidi, naravno, u okviru ugovorEnih pravila i limita. KomE sE ta pravila nE svidjaju, on lako mozE uspostaviti i sopstvEna - ali, na sopstvEnom BBS-u! >>Ima nas rElativno dosta na sistEmu al slabo sE pisE > a cak ni nE komEntarisE. Zato sam i napustio SEzam. Lapsus cErErE. Ljubisha napustio SEzam! Otkud ovdE? Da nisi zalutao, ili sE (prosto) - izgubio!? Pozdrav, MipE B)))
tt_falcon.57 bojs,
>>Uostalom, ja urEdno placam komErcijalnu prEtplatu (za razliku od >>svErcEra poput ...) na SEzamu, i imam puno PRAVO da DL/UL-ujEm >>stogod mi sE svidi, naravno, u okviru ugovorEnih pravila i limita. >>KomE sE ta pravila nE svidjaju, on lako mozE uspostaviti i >>sopstvEna - ali, na sopstvEnom BBS-u! Naravno, ali Uprava ima i neka diskreciona prava, a postoji i neki bonton koji nije obavezan ali je poželjan. Najbolje je da ovako duge poruke pakuješ u fajl, a da u poruci ostaviš kratak sadržaj, da bi svako mogao da vidi čega tu ima i da skine ako ga to interesuje, a koga ne interesuje, da preskoči.
tt_falcon.58 mipe,
> Uprava ima i neka diskreciona prava Jel' ovo treba da bude pretnja? Ako mislis da u ovakvom slucaju mozes potezati diskreciona prava, onda izvoli! Ako pretis u prazno onda je to prilicno glupo. Ili da mozda raspravimo to oko "diskrecionih prava" i njihove eventualne primene u slucaju nekoliko fajlova od 15-ak Kb - sa vlasnicima Sezama? Sta od ovo troje? > Postoji i neki bonton koji nije obaveza ali je pozeljan Bonton podrazumeva obostrano lepo ponasanje. Npr. od Sezama jos uvek nisam dobio Uputstvo, sto ne da je suprotno bontonu, nego i dobrim poslovnim obicajima. Uostalom, ljubav za ljubav, a pare za pare. Da je sve u bontonu Sezam ne bi naplacivao clanarinu i ne bi bio komercijalan vec amaterski. Dokle je komercijalan, verujem da imam pravo da koristim usluge koje sam platio. Pozdrav. M.Peric
tt_falcon.59 mipe,
> Najbolje je da ovako duge poruke pakujes u fajl, a da u poruci ostavis kratak sadrzaj Ovo lepo zvuci, ali na zalost, ne osecam se ni dovoljno kompetetnim ni dovoljno pametnim da tudje tekstove prekrajam i sazimam. Ne bi mi se svidelo ni da neko drugi to radi sa mojim tekstovima. Ali, obzirom da predlog zvuci razumno, ne bih imao nista protiv da to ti uradis, ako vec umes: ja cu tebi poslati sleKHdeci tekst na mail, ti napravi sazetak i posalji ga u neku od tema. OK?
tt_falcon.60 bojs,
>> Jel' ovo treba da bude pretnja? Ako mislis da u ovakvom slucaju mozes >>potezati diskreciona prava, onda izvoli! Ako pretis u prazno onda je to >>prilicno glupo. Ja ni po kom osnovu ne spadam u Upravu, a još manje imam običaj da pretim (BTW, već si mi jednom rekao da ti pretim a nisi mi to argumentovao). Ali, znaš, u Upravi sede oni koji itekako razmišljaju o Sezamovim diskovima, i njima se ni malo neće dopasti tvoja izjava da te baš briga da li će se disk napuniti. Moje je samo da ti skrenem pažnju da to nije u redu (i, realno, nije, em isti tekst dva puta opterećuje disk, em puniš PAD-ove onima koje taj tekst, možda, ne interesuje), već sam dugo ovde, znam kako Uprava reaguje na to. Ja nemam nikakva diskreciona prava, mogu samo da ti obrišem poruku (što mi, u ovom slučaju, ne pada na pamet, jer nije eksplicitno u suprotnosti sa Ugovorom) i to je sve.
tt_falcon.61 bojs,
> Ovo lepo zvuci, ali na zalost, ne osecam se ni dovoljno kompetetnim ni >dovoljno pametnim da tudje tekstove prekrajam i sazimam. Ne bi mi se svidelo ni >da neko drugi to radi sa mojim tekstovima. I ne treba da ništa prekrajaš, jednostavno, arhiviraš tekst, napišeš poruku tipa 'u fajlu koji sledi nalazi se tekst o tome, tome i tome' i prikačiš arhivu. Tako će svako znati šta se nalazi u arhivi, koga interesuje, skinuće, koga ne interesuje, preskočiće, i svi srećni i zadovoljni. > Ali, obzirom da predlog zvuci razumno, ne bih imao nista protiv da to ti >uradis, ako vec umes: ja cu tebi poslati sleKHdeci tekst na mail, ti napravi >sazetak i posalji ga u neku od tema. OK? Nije OK, kad bi svi tako radili, razmisli koliko bi mi vremena trebalo.
tt_falcon.62 mipe,
Nisam rekao da me "bas briga da li ce se disk napuniti", vec da ima neko ko za tu brigu prima platu (i da za tu platu delimicno dobija i od moje pretplate) > Nije OK Samo sam pomislio da bi mozda moderator mene trebao da obavestava o novostima u Atari svetu, a ne ja moderatora. Bez ljutnje.
tt_falcon.63 eburanj,
> Npr. od Sezama jos uvek nisam dobio Uputstvo... Ne pokušavam da branim SEZAM, samo sam čuo da se uputsva ne šalju jer se čeka njihovo štampanje. Pošto je i znatno promenjen softver, i uputstvo je pretrpelo promene. Kažu da će ga poslati u toku leta...
tt_falcon.65 eburanj,
>>i svE to ponovo u fajlu? >Ali, i ako sam pogrEsio ovim (vErovatno nEkorisnim) dupliranjEm... Zašto je radosavu teže da otkuca "DO broj poruke" umesto da pročita poruku i odgovori sa DA? P.S. Ja sam ZA onakve tekstove...
tt_falcon.66 bojs,
>Samo sam pomislio da bi mozda moderator mene trebao da obavestava o novostima u >Atari svetu, a ne ja moderatora. Bez ljutnje. Naravno, bez ljutnje (BTW, mene ćeš teško naljutiti :)). Sad, ti bez ljutnje, ali, čini mi se da malo pogrešno shvataš ulogu moderatora. Naravno, moderator treba da bude aktivan u konferencijama, da potstiče diskusiju itd, ali mu je glavni posao da održava red u konferenciji, da vodi računa da korisnici poštuju pravila propisana Ugovorom itd. Ja, lično, nemam neki stalan izvor novosti, da imam, slao bih redovno, a isti je slučaj i sa programima. Bavim se hardverom i pomalo programiranjem, pa se po tim pitanjima pretežno i oglašavam, Znaš kako, ako pogledaš ostale konferencije, videćeš da postoje PC.PROG, PC.OS, PC.HARD... NOVOSTI... Svaku od tih konferencija moderiše po jedan čovek, stručan za odredjenu oblast, a mi smo isuviše mala populacija da bi nam dali nekoliko konferencija, svaku sa svojim moderatorom, tako da je rešenje kompromisno: jedna konferencija i jedan moderator, koji ne može da bude stručan baš za sve teme (BTW, oni imaju i file_moderatora, čoveka koji ima stalni izvor novih programa, a kod nas, i taj je posao poveren meni, iako sam ja, verovatno, najnepogodniji za to, budući da sam vrlo konzervativan po pitanju prihvatanja novih programa). So, ako imaš izvor novosti, šalji, po mogućstvu, onako kako sam ti rekao, isto važi i za programe, ako ne, to nam je što nam je.
tt_falcon.67 toma,
još nešto od zeusa mpegdsp.lzh
tt_falcon.68 toma,
a ovo je za semplovanje s2_fc30.lzh
tt_falcon.69 toma,
pleyer pley_fl3.zip
tt_falcon.70 vmisev,
Imam u planu da uzimam Falcona, pa me zanima par sitnica, elem: 1. Njegov interni disk. Koliko sam cuo, to je IDE disk od 60 MB. Da li masina mora da se butuje samo samo sa njega ili moze i sa externog SCSI diska. 2. Ako moze da se butuje sa exeternog SCSI diska, da li ovaj mali od 60 MB mo- ze da se nekako ubaci u obicni ST 1048 i koji kontroler mi treba za to (i sta sve jos). 3. Kolko kosta (napolju, naravno) Falcon u Tower kucistu. Ustvari, zanima me da li mi se vise isplati da uzimam obicnog Falcona i externi SCSI HD ili da uzmem Falcona u Toweru i interni IDE HD od 540. 4. Koji tip SCSI konektora je na Falconu. 5. Koji CD ROM moze da se prikaci na njega? 6. Koji RAM ide u Falcona (30 ili 72 pina, sa paritijem ili brez...) 10X unapred Vladimir
tt_falcon.71 stefan,
Odgovaram na ono što znam :) > 1. Njegov interni disk. Koliko sam cuo, to je IDE disk od 60 MB. Da li Ne mora biti od 60Mb. > 2. Ako moze da se butuje sa exeternog SCSI diska, da li ovaj mali od 60 > MB moze da se nekako ubaci u obicni ST 1048 i koji kontroler mi treba > za to (i sta sve jos). Taj IDE disk na STa može da se kači ako kupiš IDE kontroler. > 4. Koji tip SCSI konektora je na Falconu. SCSI-2 > 5. Koji CD ROM moze da se prikaci na njega? Bilo koji SCSI. Mislim da ne može IDE. > 6. Koji RAM ide u Falcona (30 ili 72 pina, sa paritijem ili brez...) Koliko se meni čini ne idu standardni SIMM moduli (opet :( ) Može da se dokupi ploča na koju se oni ubadaju.
tt_falcon.72 markiz,
IDE Disk u Falconu je 2.5", promenljivog kapaciteta, standardno su stavljali Connere od 80, 120 itd, ali su distributeri stavljali u Falcone bez harda svoje tako sam ja dobio Quantuma 170. Što se tiče butovanja: ako imaš oba drajva onda određuješ sa kog drajva se butuje (ili ako staviš butabilnu particiju na SCSI).. ali Falcon prvo gleda IDE drajv što se da izmeniti tako da je butovanje brže ako imaš samo SCSI jer ne skenira IDE ...... i još nešto: Na falconu se nalazi i konektor za 2.5" drajv, što znači da ti za stavljanje 3.5" drajva treba adapter a i za premeštanje Falconovog takođe. Adapter nije nikakav problem :))) Za stavljanje "malog" ide u ST ti treba ide adapter kojih ima zajedno sa podnožjem za TOS tako da su time rešeni SVI problemi. Kako troši samo 5 V i staje u 1040 time je sve rešeno. Da'l ima Falcona u toweru ??? bilo je nekih malo nabudženih oko 3000 DEM, ako si u prilici da biraš konfiguraciju onda OK. (ima i sa izmenjivim hardom) a u svakom slučaju ima towera za Falcon oko 400 dem u koji se prebacuje za nekih pola sata i ne zahteva neko znanje jer nema ni lemljenja ... SCSI je SCSI. Iako skuplji pojam je za IDE.. ovo je već druga tema...... SCSI II ima takozvani "MINI Centronics" inače standardni SCSI II priključak. Treba ti SCSI II kabl. CD ROM se kači i na SCSI i na IDE.... u pitanju su samo drajveri (ICD ima podršku za SCSI) a ima drajvera i za IDE ali su SCSI sigurno bolji...... Nema Falcon podnožja na ploči .. ali Kartica već sad postoji toliko da izbor postaje mora (nisu skupe). Ima ih sa akceleratorima, sa svim kombinacijama SIMM-ova tako da to nije problem... problem je šta uraditi sa 4 MB karticom iz Falcona ?? Pa u ST-a naravno ....... toliko ... Markiz PH
tt_falcon.73 mipe,
Atari/Falcon i CD!? CD FAQ u fajlu. cdfaq.lzh
tt_falcon.74 bojs,
>>** Uz poruku 'cdfaq' (6669 bytes) Nemoj da te mrzi da sledeći put otkucaš jedno .LZH :))).
tt_falcon.75 rradojicic,
Zainteresovan sam za FALCON 030 i zanimaju me sledece karakteristike: 1. Kakve su zvucne mogucnosti 2. Kako stoje stvari sa softverom za muziku 3. Koja je konfiguracija potrebna za dobar rad sa muzikom i cena koja je cena te konfiguracije (domace i strane) 4. Mogucnosti nekog dobrog soundtrack programa 5. Kakve su graficke mogucnosti ( Moze uz poredjenje sa AMIGOM 1200 )
tt_falcon.76 mipe,
> Moze uz poredjenje sa AMIGOM 1200 Ne moze poredjenje sa Amigom, jer Amiga nije dovoljno dobra za poredjenje sa audio mogucnostima Falkona. Atari, a Falkon posebno, je standardni muzicki racunar na celoj planeti. Ipak, neuporedivo vise mozes saznati od onih koji se profesionalno bave muzikom na Falkonima: Dusan, Zockey ... Ako ne ide drugacije, posalji mail i - budi strpljiv.
tt_falcon.77 mipe,
Ima li neko podatke o ubrzivacu za Falcon - HighSpeed 32/40MHz?
tt_falcon.78 markiz,
Nemam podatke baš za taj, ali imam BlowUp 40 (diže na 40 MHz) To mu dođe nekako "poznatije" pa samim tim i pouzdanije.
tt_falcon.79 mipe,
> Nemam podatke bas za taj, ali imam BlowUp 40 (dize na 40 MHz) > To mu dode nekako "poznatije" pa samim tim i pouzdanije. Imam ponudu za HighSpeed (300DEM). Sta ti imas o BlowUp? (Hvala ti za dodatno objasnjenje o FPU)
tt_falcon.80 markiz,
_ŞĐŘ> Imam ponudu za HighSpeed (300DEM). Sta ti imas o BlowUp? žuo sam za HiSpeed resolution ... To su pravili slovenci, ne zauzima ni jedan port, zahteva coller na vga čipu, malo se čudno montira, ubrzava bus na 20 MHz itd. To joj je i cena (300). Blow up (postoji i 30) 40 ubrza procesor na 30 ili 40 MHz sve ostaje isto a sastoji se iz 2 odvojena čipa koji se montiraju u falcona. Mesta ima koliko hoćeš i ne zahteva ništa više. Svaka motorola je sposobna da svira i na 30 % većoj brzini tako da 40 MHz nije problem. Najvažnije  : kako Blow Up nema grafiku tako je i jeftiniji (pogodan za one sa screen blasterom ili blowup screen enchancer-om). Za noviju i tačniju cenu biće bolje da ostavi neko ko ima svežije informacije.....
tt_falcon.81 markiz,
Chitan je imao iskustva sa Speed Resolution !!!! Neka napiše on.... i dal' treba cooler ..(napisao sam coller)
tt_falcon.82 dusan,
Ovo programče na Falconu i RGB/TV monitoru prikazuje 4 miliona boja Source - ST Computer Februar 1995 4milcol.prg
tt_falcon.83 dusan,
Na zadnjem takmičenju za 96K dentroe ovo čudo je pobedilo. Nemoguće je šta je sve čovek smestio u 96K... TV/RGB naravno. 96k.prg
tt_falcon.84 mipe,
Povecavanje rezolucije na SM124/5, TV i VGA. VIDEL_11.LZH u fajlu... videl_11.lzh
tt_falcon.85 bojs,
>> ** Uz poruku 'videl_11.lzh' (22920 bytes) Ajde, vi sa Falconima, istestirajte ovo, pa, ako valja, da ga bačam u dir.
tt_falcon.86 mipe,
> Ajde, vi sa Falconima, istestirajte ovo, pa, ako valja, da ga bačam u >dir. Ma, sto se tice Falcona - program je OK. Ali sta je sa ST/E/TT?
tt_falcon.87 bojs,
>>Ma, sto se tice Falcona - program je OK. Ali sta je sa ST/E/TT? Ništa. Na ST-u program baci par bombi i izadje, a i u uputstvu piše da je program za Falcon, ST/E/TT i ne pominju. Zato sam i prebacio poruku u ovu temu, da ljudi ne bi nepotrebno skidali program.
tt_falcon.88 markiz,
> Ma, sto se tice Falcona - program je OK. Ali sta je sa ST/E/TT? Falconov VGA chip je nazvan Videl.... to sve govori. Kome treba treba TT Overscan, ima i to. (1.9 na MIC-u)
tt_falcon.90 haevorn,
Ima li negde da se nabavi adapter za SM124 za F 030? Mrzi me da pravim, ali ako bas ne znate ima li tako nesto, znate li bar kako treba "spajkati" sve to?
tt_falcon.91 mperic,
>Ima li negde da se nabavi adapter za SM124 za F 030? Neću ni reč da ti kažem u vezi tvog pitanja dok mi ne odgovoriš na onu poruku (via sister) o 1ST WORD PLUSU 4xx !
tt_falcon.92 haevorn,
// o 1srW+ Pa da li si ti bio na brzom sezamu kao mipe? nisi? pa zato i ne znas da slobodno mozes da mi odgovoris :) btw, sta se desilo sa "mipe"tom?
tt_falcon.93 mperic,
Ma hteo sam ja i ranije da budem mperic, ali mi sistem nije dozvoljavao. Taj username je do skoro zauzimao izvesni Marin Peric, pa sam iskoristio prvu priliku da se ratosiljam onog mipe. Sad Marinu ostaje da koristi user mape ;) Nisam primio (a i ne mogu) nikakvu poruku od tebe na "brzom" Sezamu. Sta bi sa NVDI/SPEEDO fontovima u Word Plusu 4xx? Da li je i ona tvoja verzija neregistrovana?
tt_falcon.94 haevorn,
//sta bi sa NVDI/SPEEDO fontovima A sta bi sa prikljucivanjem SM124 na F030? :))
tt_falcon.95 eburanj,
Da li mogu da prikl ű űjučim el. gitaru na Falkona kroz distorziju. Tj. da li ona može da posluži kao neko predpojačalo?
tt_falcon.96 mperic,
C-Lab Falcon MK-X machines available at special, discounted prices if you place an order before the end of this month. That's right -- you have until 12:00AM on Wed, Jan 31 to save $BIG$ on a C-Lab Falcon MK-X. After that, you'll have to pay the regular price. Why are we doing this? Well, obviously importing these machines from Germany takes time and effort, and if we can more accurately gauge demand, we can make a larger and more accurate order! So, we want you to tell us what you want BEFORE we order it. Is this going to make it take longer? No! C-Lab will not be shipping the MK-X before mid February anyway, and this gives them more time to prepare our order! On to the prices: Normal ST-NEWS PRICE Falcon MK-X with 4MB RAM, No HD, Mega STE Keyboard $1149 $ 999 Falcon MK-X with 14MB RAM, No HD, Mega STE Keyboard $1748 $1499 No HD, Mega STE Keyboard $1748 $1499 For PC/AT Keyboard + Interface, Add $ 100 $ 79 If you prefer the C-Lab Falcon MK I: Falcon MK-I with 4MB RAM, No HD, Standard Case $ 999 $ 939 Falcon MK-II with 4MB RAM, 350MB SCSI HD, Standard Case $1349 $1199 14MB Upgrade Add $ 599 $ 500 Options: Cubase Audio 16 $ 589 $ 389 Math Coprocessor (68882) $ 59 $ 49 So suppose you ordered a Falcon MK-II with 350MB SCSI Internal HD and 14MB RAM. Normally you'd pay $1948. Order before the end of Jan 31 and as a member of ST News you'll pay just $1699!! That's $249 in savings!! Here are some answers to some questions you may still have: HOW DO I ORDER? You can email, fax or call your order in -- BUT IT MUST BE DONE BEFORE MIDNIGHT ON JAN 31, 1996, and you must mention the ST News mailing list! After that, regular prices will go into effect. WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THE C-LAB HARDWARE? The C-Lab Falcon machines use the SAME motherboard as the Atari Falcon030. They have made a few component replacements to clean up audio circuitry and fix CPU timing problems. On MK-II machines, they feature an internal SCSI bus made possible by an adapter board that piggybacks onto the chips & port that make the external SCSI port possible. There is no difference between an Atari Falcon and a C-Lab Falcon motherboard -- the difference is in the components used and, in the case of the MK-II, the extra SCSI daughterboard. ED F) n their comot released a price on this upgrade yet, but as a guess we expect it to be in the neighfuncttgrd $300. The upgrade would include not only the new case, but also the au NaDee voad.net] Toad Compa 4 544-6943 Info WEB: http://www.toad.net/
tt_falcon.97 mperic,
From: "David C. Troy" <dave@toad.net> Reply to: info@toad.net To: stnews@lists.toad.net, alert@beast.toad.net Subject: [Toad Computers ST News] BlowUp F/X Board Now In Stock! The BlowUp F/X Boards arrived from Germany today --- if you have an order in already, expect it to be filled in the next day or two. If you have questions about the board, please contact us. The board includes: - RAM Expansion (up to 16MB onboard) - CPU Accelerator (up to 20MHz) - FPU Accelerator (up to 20MHz) - DSP Accelerator (up to 50MHz) - Screen Expansion (resolutions like 1024 x 768) BlowUp F/X plugs into the Falcon PDS slot and includes flash ROM for easy hardware updates through software. It is $249 and in stock now! BlowUp Falcon FX Board......................................$249.00 4MB 30 Pin SIMMS............................................$149.00 1MB 30 Pin SIMMS............................................$ 39.00 Installation (of CPU Accelerator or Hard-I Sections)........$ 79.00 Also available are BlowUp's Falcon Screen Expanders, and BlowUp's NEW PSI Pocket SPDIF DAT Interface. BlowUp Software.............................................$ 19.95 BlowUp HARD-I...............................................$ 69.00 BlowUp HARD-II..............................................$ 99.00 BlowUp PSI SPDIF INTERFACE..................................$299.00 Let us know if you have questions. Dave David Troy --- ToadNet Information Services [dave@toad.net] Toad Computers, Inc. (800) 448-8623 Orders America's Atari Source (410) 544-6943 Info WEB: http://www.toad.net/ (410) 544-1329 FAX FTP: ftp://ftp.toad.net/ (410) 544-6999 BBS ======================================================================
tt_falcon.98 knenad,
Evo malo da osvežimo pamćenje... Ali i da saznamo nešto novo što možda do sada nismo znali... Falkon programeri obratite pažnju na nove OS pozive... Javite je l' hoćete još, ako nećete neću više ni da šiljem ;) ============================================================================ Atari Falcon 030 Specifications as per Atari Corp CPU: Motorola 68030 32-bit microprocessor @ 16MHz w/ 32-bit bus FPU: Motorola 68881/68882 @ 16MHz (optional) DSP: Motorola 56001 Digital Signal Processor running in parallel @ 32MHz w/ 32kWords (24-bit) of local zero wait state static RAM ROM: 512kB RAM: 1,4 or 16MB(14MB usable) on daughterboard (RAM is 32-bit wide) Expansion bus: Internal 'Processor-Direct' slot for 386SX emulation (third party 386SX emulator nearly completed) or other co-processors/etc. Video: (See below for specific video modes/resolutions.) 16-bit BLiTTER @ 16MHz (also handles hard drive access) Accepts external video sync to allow high quality genlocking Overlay mode for easy video titling and special effects Overscan support Hardware-assisted horizontal fine scrolling VIDEL (video controller) sits on 32-bit bus Audio: Stereo 16-bit Analog-to-Digital DMA input Stereo 16-bit Digital-to-Analog DMA output Eight 16-bit audio DMA record/playback channels SDMA sound/DMA co-processor Ports: 128kB cartridge port 2 9-pin mouse/joystick ports 2 15-pin STe enhanced analog/digital controller ports (Atari also has new analog controllers w/ a joystick, 3 fire buttons, and a 12-key keypad) MIDI IN, OUT/THRU Bi-directional parallel port RS232C serial port SCSI II w/ DMA Analog RGB/VGA/composite video connector Stereo headphone out (1/8" mini-jack) Stereo microphone in (1/8" mini-jack) DSP port (up to 1MHz data transfer rate) RF modulator for TV hookup Localtalk compatible LAN (up to 250kbaud transfer rate) Misc: Internal 1.44MB 3.5" HD floppy Internal IDE 2.5" hard drive (optional) Pre-emptive mulitasking OS (MultiTOS) w/ adaptive prioritization and inter-process communication (also 68040 compatible) Realtime clock and battery backed up RAM 1040ST-style case w/ internal fan North American availability in mid-October Price: 1MB/no HD - $799 list 4MB/65MB - $1399 list A couple of notes: Unlike previous machines, there are just too many resolutions to give each resolution a name. Therefore, I will do my best to describe what the resolution is and which monitor it is on. - NOTE: TV and a Color Monitor are the same.. by Color Monitor, I am talking about the standard SC1224. By VGA, I mean a standard VGA Monitor. 40 column modes ( "column" means the number of x pixels divided by 8) --------------- 4 color, normal, TV: 320x200, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, normal, TV: 320x200, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, normal, TV: 320x200, 256 colors, 8 planes True color, normal, TV: 320x200, true color 4 color, interlace, TV: 320x400, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, interlace, TV: 320x400, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, interlace, TV: 320x400, 256 colors, 8 planes True color, interlace, TV: 320x400, true color 4 color, normal, VGA: 320x480, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, normal, VGA: 320x480, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, normal, VGA: 320x480, 256 colors, 8 planes True color, normal, VGA: 320x480, true color 4 color, line-doubling, VGA: 320x240, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, line-doubling, VGA: 320x240, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, line-doubling, VGA: 320x240, 256 colors, 8 planes True color, line-doubling, VGA: 320x240, true color 80 column modes --------------- 2 color, normal, TV: 640x200, 2 colors, 1 plane 4 color, normal, TV: 640x200, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, normal, TV: 640x200, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, normal, TV: 640x200, 256 colors, 8 planes True color, normal, TV: 640x200, true color 4 color, interlace, TV: 640x400, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, interlace, TV: 640x400, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, interlace, TV: 640x400, 256 colors, 8 planes True color, interlace, TV: 640x400, true color 2 color, normal, VGA: 640x480, 2 colors, 1 plane 4 color, normal, VGA: 640x480, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, normal, VGA: 640x480, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, normal, VGA: 640x480, 256 colors, 8 planes 4 color, line-doubling, VGA: 640x240, 4 colors, 2 planes 16 color, line-doubling, VGA: 640x240, 16 colors, 4 planes 256 color, line-doubling, VGA: 640x240, 256 colors, 8 planes and lastly.. there are compability modes for ST Low, ST Medium, and ST High on both VGA monitors and SC1224 monitors. (On a color monitor, ST High is achieved by using the interlace mode). Also, the ST Monochrome monitor (the SM124) will work with Falcon030 as well. However, it only supports one resolution: ST High Resolution. All modes on a TV can be overscanned. This means multiplying the X and Y resolution by 1.2. For example, modes with 320 pixels of horizontal resolution (X res) will become 384 pixels across, and modes with 640 pixels will become 768 across. Overscanning is done in the X and Y resolution. You can't do them independently. Special Note: On a VGA monitor, overscan is "faked".. since the video hardware doesn't have the capability to do overscan on a VGA monitor, we made it so that if a overscan mode is set on a VGA monitor, you still see the normal size screen, but the screen is a window onto the bigger overscanned image. Make sense? We did this for compatibility. This way if a game that has an overscanned starup picture can use the same pic on both the VGA monitor and the TV monitor. Pretty cool, eh? <grin> BTW.. Overscan can NOT be set from the desktop. The AES and Desktop will work just fine with it, but because you can't see the parts of the screen, we thought that that option shouldn't be available from the desktop. We don't want to confuse people. However, Overscan can be set using a new XBIOS call (Vsetmode()).. so it is still available. I hope I haven't made any mistakes. I triple-checked this document in search of errors and I couldn't find any. If you do find some, send me Email on GEnie (to TOWNS) or CIS (70007,1135) and let me know. -- John Townsend, Atari Corp. P.S. Anyone who would like to reprint this message, please do so! The smaller the number of times I have to type that message, the more my fingers with thank you! ;-) After looking at this one more time.. one point to clear up: By saying SC1224 Color Monitor, I mean any Color Monitor that Atari have manufactured for the ST/Mega/STE/MegaSTE computers. Clear as mud? ;-) Article: 33384 of comp.sys.atari.st I found this file on the local ATARI Company's BBS : (original in Dutch) This article is written by Wilfred Kilwinger (Support Manager) for Atari Briefing, the newsletter by Atari (Benelux) B.V. for the Atari user groups. It was specifically stated that it could be reproduced. I have translated it in English with the assumption that an English translation would be considered the same as the original. The original also contained a description of all the features of the Falcon which have been reproduced here a zillion of times so I did not include these. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Atari custom chips VIDEL The VIDEL takes care of the video functions of the system including overscan, overlay mode and true color graphics COMBEL The COMBEL is the system manager of the Atari Falcon030. This chip controls all system functions. Also the BLITTER is built in in this chip. SDMA The SDMA is the Sound DMA and controls the sound part. We have built in a unique matrix switch function in this chip (more details in the second part) KEYBOARD PROCESSOR The keyboard processor has been improved and is now also suitable for high resolution mice. Besides the above custom chips the Atari Falcon030 has a number of standard chips like the Motorola 68030 and 56001 DSP. Another important chip is the CODEC in which the 16 bit AD and DA converters are located. Video modi As you can see in the survey of Operating System calls the video hardware is complete sotware controllable. The following combinations can a.o. be chosen: Mode Resolution Bit planes Colors Palette ST LOW 320x200 4 16 4096 ST MED 640x200 2 4 4096 ST HIGH 640x400 1 2 4096 True Color 640x480 8 256 262144 320x200 15bpp 32768 N/A The last mode asks for some explanation. Here there is no color palette but 15 bits per pixel to describe the pixel itself. The format is RRRRRGGGGGXBBBBB. VDI supports this mode thus programs that have not been written for this mode specifically can use it nevertheless. X is the overlay bit and can be used for video titling and special effects. 320x200 16bpp 65 N/A This mode is called the slideshow mode, is not supported by the VDI, you are on you own. X is an extra green bit. True Color in 640x480 is not possible because of the bandwidth of VGA monitors. Mode Resolution Bit planes Colors Palette VGA 320 of 640 1,4,8 2,16,256 262144 (Overscan Video 200 of 400 With Video we mean the Atari SC-monitors, the TV modulator and/or the composite video output. All modes can be gegenlocked. With adaptors we convert the 15-pole video bus to thee standard Atari or VGA connections. Matrix coupling To make the system performance in the audio part as good as possible Atari designed a miniature 'telephone exchange' that can easily connect the source devices to the receiving devices. Also it is possible to make more than one connection at a time. Source devices EXT INPUT ---*-------*------*------* CHANNEL | | | | | | | | DSP ---*-------*------*------* TRANSMIT | | | | | | | | ADC ---*-------*------*------* | | | | | | | | DMA ---*-------*------*------* PLAYBACK | | | | DMA DAC DSP EXT OUTPUT RECORD RECEIVE CHANNEL Receiving Devices Ports andn interfacing DSP CONNECTOR (DB26 Female) Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 GP0 14 GND 2 GP1 15 SRD 3 GP2 16 GND 4 P_DATA 17 +12V 5 P_CLK 18 GND 6 P_SYNC 19 R_DATA 7 n/c 20 R_CLK 8 GND 21 R_SYNC 9 +12V 22 EXT_INT 10 GND 23 STD 11 SC0 24 SCK 12 SC1 25 GND 13 SC2 26 EXCLK SCSI CONNECTOR (flat 50 pins SCSI II Female) Pin Signal Pin Signal 1-10 GND 37 Not Connected 11 +5V 38 +5V 12-14 Not Connected 39 Not Connected 15-25 GND 40 GND 26 SCSI 0 41 ATN 27 SCSI 1 42 GND 28 SCSI 2 43 BSY 29 SCSI 3 44 ACK 30 SCSI 4 45 RST 31 SCSI 5 46 MSG 32 SCSI 6 47 SEL 33 SCSI 7 48 C/D 34 Parity 49 REQ 35-36 GND 50 I/O SERIAL PORT (DB9 MALE) Pin Signal 1 Carrier Detect 5 GND 2 Receive 6 Data set ready 3 Transmit 7 Request to Send 4 Data Terminal Ready 8 Clear to Send 9 Ring Indicator PARALLEL PORT (DB25 Female) The parallel port has extra signal to ease the connection of scanners. Pin Signal 1 Strobe 8 Data 6 2 Data 0 9 Data 7 3 Data 1 10 Acknowledge 4 Data 2 11 Busy 5 Data 3 12-16 Not Connected 6 Data 4 17 Select 7 Data 5 18-25 GND MONITOR CONNECTOR (DB19 Male) Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 Red 11 GND 2 Green 12 Composite Sync/Video 3 Blue 13 Horizontal Sync 4 Mono/Overlay 14 Vertical Sync 5 GND 15 External Clock Input 6 Red GND 16 External SYNC Enable 7 Green GND 17 +12V 8 Blue GND 18 M1 9 Audio out 19 M0 10 GND SCC LAN-port CONNECTOR (8-pin Mini DIN Female RS-422) Pin Signal 1 Handshake Output (DTR RS 423) 5 - Received Data 2 Handshake Input or External Clock 6 + Transmitted Data 3 - Transmit Data 7 General-purpose Input 4 GND 8 + Receive ENHANCED JOYSTICK (DB15 Male) Port A Port B Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 UP 0 1 UP 1 2 DOWN 0 2 DOWN 1 3 LT 0 3 LT 1 4 RT 0 4 RT 1 5 PAD0Y 5 PAD1Y 6 FIRE 0 / LIGHT GUN 6 FIRE 1 7 VCC (+5 VDC) 7 VCC 8 Not Connected 8 Not Connected 9 GND 9 GND 10 FIRE 2 10 FIRE 3 11 UP 2 11 UP 3 12 DOWN 2 12 DOWN 3 13 LT 2 13 LT 3 14 RT 2 14 RT 3 15 PAD0X 15 PAD1X MIDI PORT (DIN 5 Female) MIDI OUT MIDI IN Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 Thru Transmit 1 Not Connected 2 GND 2 Not Connected 3 Thru Loop Return 3 Not Connected 4 Out Transmit 4 In Receive 5 Out Loop Return 5 In Loop Return New Operating System calls This information is not complete, maybe subject to change and is certainly not meant as documentation for programmers DSP-calls Dsp_DoBlock(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(500,a,b,c,d) Dsp_BlkHandShake(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(501,a,b,c,d) Dsp_BlkUnpacked(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(502,a,b,c,d) Dsp_InStream(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(503,a,b,c,d) Dsp_OutStream(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(504,a,b,c,d) Dsp_IOStream(a,b,c,d,e,f) (void) xbios(505,a,b,c,d,e,f) Dsp_RemoveInterrupts(a) (void) xbios(506,a) Dsp_GetWordSize() (int) xbios(507) Dsp_Lock() (int) xbios(508) Dsp_Unlock() (void) xbios(509) Dsp_Available(a,b) (void) xbios(510,a,b) Dsp_Reserve(a,b) (int) xbios(511,a,b) Dsp_LoadProg(a,b,c) (int) xbios(512,a,b,c) Dsp_ExecProg(a,b,c) (void) xbios(513,a,b,c) Dsp_ExecBoot(a,b,c) (void) xbios(514,a,b,c) Dsp_LodToBinary(a,b) (long) xbios(515,a,b) Dsp_TriggerHC(a) (void) xbios(516,a) Dsp_RequestUniqueAbility() (int) xbios(517) Dsp_GetProgAbility() (int) xbios(518) Dsp_FlushSubroutines() (void) xbios(519) Dsp_LoadSubroutine(a,b,c) (int) xbios(520,a,b,c) Dsp_InqSubrAbility(a) (int) xbios(521,a) Dsp_RunSubroutine(a) (int) xbios(522,a) Dsp_Hf0(a) (int) xbios(523,a) Dsp_Hf1(a) (int) xbios(524,a) Dsp_Hf2() (int) xbios(525) Dsp_Hf3() (int) xbios(526) Dsp_BlkWords(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(527,a,b,c,d) Dsp_BlkBytes(a,b,c,d) (void) xbios(528,a,b,c,d) Dsp_HStat() (char) xbios(529) Dsp_SetVectors(a,b) (void) xbios(530,a,b) De volledige beschrijving van bovenstaande functie's staat in de Falcon030 Developers Documentation. VIDEO SETMODE int setmode( int modecode ); The setmode( int modecode ) call is used to place the Falcon/030 SHIFTER into a specific mode. A bit-encoded value (called a "modecode") is passed to setmode() to set the mode. setmode() returns the previous mode that was set. To help make the building of modecode values easier, here is a table of defines: #define VERTFLAG 0x100 #define STMODES 0x80 #define OVERSCAN 0x40 #define PAL 0x20 #define VGA 0x10 #define TV 0x0 #define COL80 0x08 #define COL40 0x0 #define NUMCOLS 7 #define BPS16 4 #define BPS8 3 #define BPS4 2 #define BPS2 1 #define BPS1 0 Using these defines, you can build a modecode for any possible mode. For example: For True Color Overscan: modecode = OVERSCAN|COL40|BPS16; For ST Medium Compatibility mode on a Color Monitor/TV: modecode = STMODES|COL80|BPS2; For ST Low Compatibility mode in PAL on a Color Monitor/TV: modecode = STMODES|PAL|COL80|BPS2; For 256 color, 80 column mode on a VGA monitor: modecode = VGA|COL80|BPS8; If you have a modecode and wish to know how many bits per pixel it has, use the following: if( modecode & NUMCOLS ) == BPS16 ) do_something_cool(); /* You have true color mode */ The setmode() call will return the previous modecode set. You must use this value to get back to whatever mode you were in before you made your setmode call. int mon_type(void) The mon_type() function will return the kind of monitor that is currently in use. Here are the possible return values: 0 = ST monochrome monitor 1 = ST color monitor 2 = VGA monitor 3 = Television. void ext_sync( int flag ) This function sets or clears external sync. If flag is set, external sync is enabled. If flag is clear, then internal sync is used. SOUND-calls locksnd(); Used as a semiphore to lock the sound system. From other applications. unlocksnd(); Used to release the sound system for other applications to use. soundcmd(mode,data); This command is used to get or set the following sound parameters. If a negative number is used as the input then the current setting us returned. MODE OPERATION MEANING O LTATTEN Sets the current left channel output 1 RTATTEN Sets the current right channel output 2 LTGAIN Sets the current left channel input gain. 3 RTGAIN Sets the current right channel input gain. 4 ADDERIN Set the output of the 16 bit signed adder to receive it's input from the ADC, Matrix or both. 5 ADCINPUT Set the input the the ADC. The input can either be the left and right channel of the PSG or the left and right channel of the microphone. 6 SETPRESCALE Used for compatability. This prescale value is used when the DEVCONNECT() internal prescale value is set to zero. setbuffer(reg,begaddr,endaddr); This function is used to set the play or record buffers. REG selects playback or record, while begaddr and endaddr are the buffers beginning and ending locations. (int) reg - (0) Sets playback registers. - (1) Sets record registers. (long) begaddr - Sets the beginning address of the buffer. (long) endaddr - Sets the ending address of the buffer. setmode(mode); This function is used to set record or playback mode. The modes are as follows: MODE OPERATION (int) 0 8 Bit Stereo (int) 1 16 Bit Stereo (int) 2 8 Bit Mono settracks(playtracks,rectracks); This function is used to sets the number of record or playback tracks. setmontracks(montrack); This function is used to set the output of the internal speaker to one of the four tracks currently playing. The internal speaker is only capable of outputing ONE track at a time. setinterrupt(src_inter,cause); This function is used to set which interrupt that will occur at the end of a frame. If the frame repeat bit is on, this interrupt is used to allow for double buffering the playing or recording of sound. Interrupts can come from TimerA or the MFP i7. buffoper(mode); This function is used to control the operation of the play or record buffers in the sound system. The input to this function is a bitmap. If mode is set t0 -1 then the current status of the buffer operation bits is returned. NOTE: The sound system contains a 32 byte FIFO. When transferring data to the record buffer, software MUST check to see if the record enable (RE) bit was cleared by the hardware. If the bit was cleared then the FIFO is flushed, if not then software must flush the FIFO by clearing the record enable (RE) bit. dsptristate(dspxmit,dsprec); This function is used to tristate the DSP from the data matrix. gpio(mode,data); This is used to communicate over the General Purpose I/O on the DSP connector. Only the low order three bits are used. The rest are reserved. This call, depending on the mode, can be used to set the direction of the I/O bits, read the bits, or write the bits. devconnect(src,dst,srcclk,prescale,protocol); This function is used to attach a source device to any of the destination devices in the matrix. Given a source device, this call will attach that one source device to one or all of the destination devices. This call also sets up the source clock and prescaler, protocol and protocol source if used. sndstatus(reset); This function gets the current status of the codec. buffptr(pointer); This function returns the current position of the play and record data buffer pointers. These pointers indicate where the data is being read/written within the buffers themselves. This function is also used to determine how much data has been written to the record buffer. See buffoper(). The above is not yet complete. Atari has also routines for JPEG and andio conversion. -- Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands. Telephone: +31 30 531806 Uucp: uunet!mcsun!ruuinf!piet Telefax: +31 30 513791 Internet: piet@cs.ruu.nl (*`Pete') Article: 6027 of comp.sys.atari.st.tech In <469@muller.loria.fr>, Steven Eker writes: > >Things which the 56001 should be useful for include software sound synthesis >& matrix*vector multiplcation (the basis of 3D vector games). > >If the DSP DMA is implemented right (does anyone have a programmer eye view of >this yet?) is should be possible to use it as an extremely fast graphics >processor for polygons/phong shading/texture mapping (I wonder if anyone >will bother to write an "Ultima Underworld" type game for the Falcon?). >I worry about this though - the DSP is 24 bits and the 68030 is 32 bits >so there's plenty of room for Atari to screw up... > For anyone who hasn't seen the latest AEO, the Falcon appears to have been design as a 24 bit computer, partly to maintain compatability with existing software. This doesn't mean third party boards etc can't extent that, but it explains the 14 meg memory limit. The other captures from Jim Allen posts to GEnie say that the Falcon chips all seem to talk at 16mhz. Another poster mentioned here that there's an 8bit processor to dsp channel, I guess for uploading code into the dsp, though I don't know if that means you can't tell the dsp to load a program from a memory location itself, which would be faster, I'd guess. Motorola says the top speed the 56001 is clocked at is 33mhz, so the ad/da converters must be the parts clocked at 50mhz. -- jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca Article: 6050 of comp.sys.atari.st.tech clint@artech.UUCP (Clinton Keith) writes: >The adc/dac channel is driven off the DMA clock, which is driven off a >sub-divided horizontal scan rate. The 525 scan line rate sub-divided >by 12, 24, 48 and 96 give the 6250, 12500, 25000 and 50000 bytes per >second DMA/CODEC rate. This is the same as the STE/TT. In the very techie "test" of the Falcon in the German C'T you can read a differend story: "[external/internal clock, prescale 4-24 or 128]. Internally there is a 27.175MHz clock to select the for the STe known sampling rates of 12.5KHz, 25KHz and 50KHz, or 32MHz in order to use the full bandwidth of the memory transfer, with an sampling rate of 62.5KHz on eight 16bit channels. This is also the upper limit for the external clock." (if the about dosn't make any sense then it is probaly because my german is even worth than my english)
tt_falcon.99 kmilan,
Salji jos ali kao file zakacen za poruku, ako moze. Nego sto pise da F030 ima 8 kanala? BTW cuo sam da se F030 MKII u Nemackoj moze naci za 900DM.
tt_falcon.100 stefan,
> Javite je l' hoćete još, ako nećete neću više ni da šiljem ;) Samo ti šilji, uvek smo gladni novih informacija :)
tt_falcon.101 stefan,
> Salji jos ali kao file zakacen za poruku, ako moze. Nego sto pise da > F030 ima 8 kanala? Pa ima 8 stereo kanala.
tt_falcon.102 kmilan,
Ko bi se toga setio :) Nego neki ljudi pricaju da F030 ima 32 mono kanala ?!? ali ja da sada nisam nasao ni jedan program koji radi sa ovoliko kanala?
tt_falcon.103 knenad,
> Samo ti šilji, uvek smo gladni novih informacija :) OK! Trebalo je već da stignu novi textovi, ali je nešto J(eb)UPAK bio u kvaru (opet).
tt_falcon.104 stefan,
> Nego neki ljudi pricaju da F030 ima 32 mono kanala ?!? ali ja da sada Pa njegov DSP _hardverski_ podržava 8 stereo kanala. Međutim, ako mene sećanje ne vara ranije je bilo reči u nekim AEO magazinima da se pošto je dovoljno brz može naterati da radi sa 32 kanala (znači ne hardverska kanala). Neka paralela bi bila recimo kada na STu puštaš neke MOD fajlove, pošto ST ni u snu nema hardversku podršku za onako nešto :)
tt_falcon.105 knenad,
> Ko bi se toga setio :) Neko bi se zapitao čega... ;) (znam, 8 kanala) Jesi l' pronašao neki efiksaniji način pisanja poruka?
tt_falcon.106 ljubisha,
>Nego neki ljudi pricaju da F030 ima 32 mono kanala ?!? ali ja da sada >nisam nasao ni jedan program koji radi sa ovoliko kanala? Video sam kod Duleta (odavno) neki demo sa 32 kanala. Radi, a ekran, pošto je veliki (dupli po visini) ladno skroluješ gore-dole.
tt_falcon.107 kmilan,
Pa F030 nema hardwersku rezoluciju 1600*1200 u 16 boja pa opet moze da je prikaze na nekim monitorima. Nego sad se setih, ima li neko registrovanu verziju Octalysera?
tt_falcon.108 stefan,
> Pa F030 nema hardwersku rezoluciju 1600*1200 u 16 boja pa opet moze > da je prikaze na nekim monitorima. Uh, dok sm ja skotnao na šta je ovo odgovor... :) Ajde molim te, počni da kvotiraš poruke na koje odogovaraš, mislim njihov najbitiniji deo da bi moglo normalno da se prati o čemu se govori. A što se tiče samog odgovora, ne znam šta si hteo ovim da mi kažeš :)) Ja samo rekoh da se za 32 kanala moraju primeniti softverski trikovi. Što se tiče ove grafike tu je koliko se meni čini malko drugačija situacija pošto Falcon na neki način ima programabilnu video kartu, tako da se upišu odgovarajuće vrednosti u registre tj. onaj njegov NV Ram i to je to :) Doduše, pri tome može da se zbinguje mašina, ako se upiše nešto što baš ne može da izdrži pa onda mora da se startuje program koji te vrednosti postavlja ne default ;)
tt_falcon.109 kmilan,
Kako da kvotiram poruku kad odgovaram on-line? Inace htedoh reci da se na Falconu sve postize softwerski (kazu max rez. 640*480 a ono 800*600 u 256 ű boje...). Video sam na HT-u file pored koga pise prepoznavanje govora za MiNT!!! Ima li neko ovo programce ili cu morati da platim Ljubise za DL?
tt_falcon.110 stefan,
> Kako da kvotiram poruku kad odgovaram on-line? Iz kog programa radiš? > Inace htedoh reci da se na Falconu sve postize softwerski (kazu max > rez. 640*480 a ono 800*600 u 256ű boje...). A nije ni 800*600 nego...:) Video čip na Faklonu je upravo i zanimljiv zbog mogućnosti da mu jednostavno upišeš druge vrednosti i da on radi u nekoj rezoluciji. E sad, Atari je iz nekih razloga to u operatvnom sistemu ograničio na 640*480. Znači video čip je sposoban i za veće rezolucije.
tt_falcon.111 kmilan,
Sta mislite, da li F030 meze u real time-u da skalira ceo ekran (real time zoom)?
tt_falcon.112 ljubisha,
> Sta mislite, da li F030 meze u real time-u da skalira ceo ekran (real time >zoom)? Ima demo za real time zoom. Em kratak, em brz.
tt_falcon.113 kmilan,
> Ima demo za real time zoom. Em kratak, em brz. Kako se zove? Ako nije dug mogao bi da ga posljes.
tt_falcon.114 ljubisha,
> Kako se zove? Ako nije dug mogao bi da ga posljes. Nemam Falcona. Još uvek. :)
tt_falcon.115 haevorn,
Hoću da vežem SM124 na Falkona pa me zanima da li je dovoljno povezati žice ili treba neka "gvožđurija" između?
tt_falcon.116 bojs,
>> Hoću da vežem SM124 na Falkona pa me zanima da li >> je dovoljno povezati žice ili treba neka "gvožđurija" >> između? Dovoljno je povezati žice, radio sam to.
tt_falcon.117 mperic,
CAVEMANIA - Boulderdash klon, True color igra, samo za F030. Ako bude srece sa PTT linijama, poslacu i 7up 2.30, CyPress 1.72, NoDesk 3.04
tt_falcon.118 kmilan,
Kako da skinem border na Falconu kad ga prikljucim na TV? Iz deska mogu samo da mu dam 80 colum i interlace sto je 640*400?!?
tt_falcon.119 kmilan,
Na CeBIT-u je predstavljen NeoN Grafix 3D für OS/2. Minimalna konfiguracija je 486 sa 16MB RAM-a i oko 50MB slobodnog na disku. CEna light-verzije je 99DM a voll-verzije je 1200DM. Ako neko zna nemacki i zanima ga ovaj clanak, skeniracu ga i poslati.
tt_falcon.120 stefan,
Evo nekih utisaka (i problema ;) o C-Lab verziji Falkona: I had seen a post recently about a user having problems with the audio in/out on one of the new (U.S.) C-Lab Mark X Falcons. The following is what I found to be the problem that existed with my machine. The new audio card that C-Lab has made to accomidate 1/4" plugs was installed upside down, if you use as a reference the silk screen identification on the board and the printed diagram on top of the Mark X case. This in it- self would only reverse what one would think was the input and outputs at the rear of the machine. However, the connector from the motherboard to the audio card was improperly installed as well, making it seem like there was output to only one channel (poor at that). There are five pins on the motherboard that this cable connects to. The two pair that are grouped together are the L/R audio in and out. The lone pin with one wire should connect to the pin on the audio card that is tied to the ground plane of the card. Trace this lead through the connector and align it so the single pin wire on the motherboard connects to the pin that is tied to the ground plane of the audio card. Your audio should work fine now. Alternately, as the audio card will not fit properly if the internal speaker is left installed, (glued is the word here) one could switch the connections on the motherboard to get the proper in/out reference, keeping the ground to ground connection proper. Another problem I have noted with the Mark X is that C-Lab has used PAL motherboards for the U.S. models. There is no RF modulator installed on the motherboard. When using a composite cable adapter on the monitor port (for using a VCR or video monitor) your display will only be in black and white reguardless of the video settings in the Falcon menu. So much for video output to VCR without an expensive video scan converter for the VGA output....... If you already have a ram card that has the simm's on top of the board, you will not have room to use the card without hacking the C-Lab utility mounting rack :(. I purchased a Wizztronics ram card. The 72 pin simm installs on the underside of this card keeping it the same hight as the standard Falcon memory card. In other words, you will need a 72 pin simm and Wizztronics ram card for a 14mb upgrade. I just paid $135.00 for a 16mb 60ns simm from my local PC dealer. I think Wizztronics gets $99.00 for their card. You only get the standard powersupply with no extra connectors as standard. The internal SCSI connector is not standard. $60.00 for the non-standard IDE/SCSI/powercable. Still uses the standard powersupply. A replacement powersupply can be obtained from JAMECO at http://www.jameco.com Request a catalog and take a look. If you lack knowledge in powersupplies have an electronics type friend make the selection and installation for you. The new case is very clean and sturdy. I just wish they would have taken the time to test the assembled units before shipping, and spent another couple of bucks replacing the powersupply and installing a standard SCSI connector. I'm not being negitive, just bitching. Mike -- Michael Grove mgrove@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us
tt_falcon.121 kmilan,
Ima li neko igre fur Falcon? BTW ali da nisu debilne (nešto u 3 boje sa dve kockice...)
tt_falcon.122 kmilan,
Koje brzine treba da bude HD za HD recording (na Falconu)?
tt_falcon.123 ljubisha,
> Koje brzine treba da bude HD za HD recording (na Falconu)? Velike!
tt_falcon.124 kmilan,
>> Koje brzine treba da bude HD za HD recording (na Falconu)? > Velike! HVALA BTW da ti nisam dužan litru cole za odgovor???
tt_falcon.125 gkod,
Ispod 10 ms. Bolje oko 7 ms.
tt_falcon.126 kmilan,
> Ispod 10 ms. Bolje oko 7 ms. Ne može ništa sporije ili je samo manje kanala? :-(
tt_falcon.127 kmilan,
Ima li neko sveže cene grafičkih kartica 4 F030?
tt_falcon.128 kmilan,
Koji je najbolji extender rezolucije za Falcona?
tt_falcon.129 kmilan,
Ima li zainteresovanih za podelu troškova downloada Falcon igara (10DM 1MB)?
tt_falcon.130 kmilan,
Ima li neko šemu Falcon VGA <-> SM124?
tt_falcon.131 kmilan,
Koja je max rezolucija F030 na SM124?
tt_falcon.132 stefan,
> Koja je max rezolucija F030 na SM124? Pa ST rezolucija 640*400 mada ne vidim zašto bi radio na SM124 kada možeš da pazariš bilo koji VGA monitor i onda koristiš odgovarajuće rezolucije?
tt_falcon.133 bojs,
BO> Koja je max rezolucija F030 na SM124? Možda možeš da se igraš sa overscanovima i sličnim glupostima i tako postigneš nešto više od 640x400, ali mi zvuči logičnije da prodaš taj SM124 i *za iste pare* kupiš mono SVGA (ili da dodaš pare za color SVGA), gde ćwš imati i veći izor rezolucija i boje (ili sive nijanse), što na SM 124 nemaš.
tt_falcon.134 kmilan,
>> Koja je max rezolucija F030 na SM124? > Pa ST rezolucija 640*400 mada ne vidim zašto bi radio na SM124 kada > možeš da pazariš bilo koji VGA monitor i onda koristiš odgovarajuće > rezolucije? Pazi, F030 najverovatnije (99.9%) donosim u subotu/nedelju i odma oću da isprobam gomilu stvari a za to mi je potreban šta...?... tako je MONITOR (ako neću da oslepim ispred TV-a). SVGA će doći kasnije kad se oporavim od kupovine F030.
tt_falcon.135 kmilan,
Da li mogu da spalim TV sa Blow-up-om???
tt_falcon.136 bojs,
>> Da li mogu da spalim TV sa Blow-up-om??? Zavisi od TV-a, ali teeško :).
tt_falcon.137 kmilan,
Probao sam da spalim TV :-) ali nisam uspeo :-(
tt_falcon.138 kmilan,
Sta se desi sa Falconovim bliterom kad se da TrueColor, nema ga?!?
tt_falcon.139 kmilan,
Ima li neko CPX pomocu kojeg se moze 16MHz, cache i bliter na Falconu on/off?
tt_falcon.140 ljubisha,
> Ima li neko CPX pomocu kojeg se moze 16MHz, cache i bliter na > Falconu on/off? Bože me sakloni. Pa General to radi.
tt_falcon.141 kmilan,
>> Ima li neko CPX pomocu kojeg se moze 16MHz, cache i bliter na >> Falconu on/off? > Boze me sakloni. Pa General to radi. Ima samo opciju za on/off spiker.
tt_falcon.142 ljubisha,
> > Boze me sakloni. Pa General to radi. > > Ima samo opciju za on/off spiker. Verzija 01.30 radi. Ispod spikera je bliter pa CPU speed.
tt_falcon.143 kmilan,
>> > Boze me sakloni. Pa General to radi. >> >> Ima samo opciju za on/off spiker. > Verzija 01.30 radi. Ispod spikera je bliter pa CPU speed. Kako da vidim koju verziju imam.
tt_falcon.144 kmilan,
Kako se koristi SHOWANIM.TOS koji se dobija uz NEON?
tt_falcon.145 kermit,
Imam na prodaju odličnu mašinu prilagođenu za ozbiljan DTP. U pitanju je Atari TT sa 8 mega memorije, internim SCSI II diskom od 350MB, kolor monitor 14" originalni, SCSI kolor A4 stoni skener, 4x SCSI CD-ROM SONY CDU 76S u eksternom kućištu. Opciono, u istom kućištu mogu da ostavim 1GB SCSI disk IBM, ali nije obavezno. Instaliran je DTP softver, sve je podešeno i savršeno radi, ima i oko 800 Calamus fontova (sređenih), jedan CD sa 650 MB igara. Da, to je moja mašina koju moram da menjam za MAC-a, jer me zatrpavaju kolorni poslovi koje za sad imam gde da radim, ali ne znam dokle. btw ovo ne znači da dižem ruke od Atarija jer mi je 99% poslova rađeno u Calamusu, a emulator može da radi za toliko. Detaljnija obaveštenja na mail ili na 512-170. p.s. ako neko ima na prodaju POWERMAC-a 7100 (može i polovan) neka se javi. KERMIT
tt_falcon.146 kmilan,
Ovde se nešto jako čudno dešava. Otac je napravio adapter za SM124<->Falcon sa mali prekidač za TV<->Monitor i tim prekidačem se pinovi M0 i M1 prespajaju na masu ali međusobno ostaju spojeni. Samo da pojasnim nešto, Falcon ima dva pina na svom monitor portu, M0 i M1, u zavisnosti od toga koji je na +5V Falcon zna kakav signal treba da šalje (TV, VGA, SM, SC). I to sve lepo funkcioniše dok ne pokrenem demo ili igru. U svkom slušaju slika ide nekoliko puta brže nego obično (npr. knockOut demo - izgleda kao da zvuk kasni za slikom, to jest animacija ide brže nego obično dok je zvuk normalan). Ima li neko ideju zbog čega se ovo dešava?
tt_falcon.147 ljubisha,
> I to sve lepo funkcioniše dok ne pokrenem demo ili igru. U svkom slušaju > slika ide nekoliko puta brže nego obično (npr. knockOut demo - izgleda kao da > zvuk kasni za slikom, to jest animacija ide brže nego obično dok je zvuk > normalan). Ima li neko ideju zbog čega se ovo dešava? A jesi li probao da to probaš samo sa uključenim televizorom? I oćeš da kupiš monitor? Za tebe... cena prava sitnica. :)
tt_falcon.148 kmilan,
>> zvuk kasni za slikom, to jest animacija ide brže nego obično dok je zvuk >> normalan). Ima li neko ideju zbog čega se ovo dešava? > A jesi li probao da to probaš samo sa uključenim televizorom? I oćeš > da kupiš monitor? Za tebe... cena prava sitnica. :) Sve funkcioniše ok kad isčupam monitor (zajedno sa adapterom). Neka fala, imam SM124 za ozbiljno i TV za True Color i Demos.
tt_falcon.149 kmilan,
Ima li neko demoa za Falcona???
tt_falcon.150 stefan,
> Ima li neko demoa za Falcona??? Ima toga dosta "preko" na žalost, za sada mi se apsolutno ne isplati da to skidam.
tt_falcon.151 kmilan,
Kako da zakačim IDE CD na F030?
tt_falcon.152 kmilan,
Pogodite šta ja imam... Bad Mood... A šta on radi... Čita WAD-ove... WAD su doom, hexen, heretic... fileovi. Tako da možete da se šetate kroz doom, doom II i heretic nivoe (hexen još nije podržan). Inače ceo projekat je u fazi razvoja, planira se kompletna, igriva verzija. Pogledajte i sami... btw radi samo na falconu... bm.lzh
tt_falcon.153 kmilan,
Da nastavim... Ide shell za Bad Mood... Inače igra radi u true coloru... Brzinom oko 386DX40MHz... Izgleda 10x bolje nego na VGA monitoru... Moguće je podešavati veličinu ekrana, rezoluciju (max 320*240)... Postoji i dodatni WAD editor za pravljenje sopstvenih WAD-ova... Pored svega što postoji i u PC verziji, razvijaju se dodatni efekti, za sada je ubačen efekat spot lighta (snopa svetlosti)... I tako to... bmshell.tos
tt_falcon.154 kmilan,
Ima li neko sveže cene F030 ubrzivača i digitalizatora slike.
tt_falcon.155 burazer,
Procitao sam negde da falcon moze da emulira 386-icu. Da li je to tacno i kako .
tt_falcon.156 gkod,
Ne, moze da emulira 286. Naravno softverski. Za 386 moras da ubacis karticu.
tt_falcon.157 kmilan,
>Procitao sam negde da falcon moze da emulira 386-icu. >Da li je to tacno i kako . Može kit*. Pre neki dan sam pokašao da instaliram PC soft i uspeo sam posle 1-2 sata. OK ali to čudo ima norton faktor 1.0 :-(
tt_falcon.158 bojs,
>>1-2 sata. OK ali to čudo ima norton faktor 1.0 :-( ... što je mnogo bolje od 0.3, koliko je imao PC DITTO na ST :)))
tt_falcon.159 kmilan,
Zna li neko gde se može nabaviti FX za Falcona u Nemačkoj i po kojoj ceni? Može i neki drugi ubrzivač ali da je recimo ispod 350DM. Koliko je ubrzanje Falcona sa FX, ima li neko testove?
tt_falcon.160 ljubisha,
> Zna li neko gde se može nabaviti FX za Falcona u Nemačkoj i po kojoj > ceni? Može i neki drugi ubrzivač ali da je recimo ispod 350DM. > Koliko je ubrzanje Falcona sa FX, ima li neko testove? Ubrzanje je solidno ali i dalje je pitaje čemu to služi. Ako ti programi koje koristiš rade sa DSPom onda je OK a ako ne zašto ne uzeti TTa i neku grafičku karticu i eto ti legalne mašine. Dobro, može i Mac ali to je već neka druga priča. :)
tt_falcon.161 kmilan,
>> Koliko je ubrzanje Falcona sa FX, ima li neko testove? > Ubrzanje je solidno ali i dalje je pitaje čemu to služi. Ako ti > programi koje koristiš rade sa DSPom onda je OK a ako ne zašto ne > uzeti TTa i neku grafičku karticu i eto ti legalne mašine. Dobro, > može i Mac ali to je već neka druga priča. :) Kako to misliš ako rade sa DSP? FX drastično ubrzava DSP? TT i kartica = PowerMac (cena)??? Po kojoj ceni i koji AV Mac?
tt_falcon.162 kmilan,
Kako da stavim neku sliku prilikom boot-a tako da se ne vidi šta NVDI i ostali programi ispisuju?
tt_falcon.163 dusan,
pa postoje dva nacina i oba nisu nimalo prijatna ;) 1. da pokrenes program iz auto foldera koji ce se prvi startovati i koji ce da se nakaci na gemdos print tako da se ne ispisuje text s tim da vrati original kontrolu sistemu kad izleti na desktop. prikaz slike na ekran je trivijalan pre svega toga. 2. da pokrenes program iz auto foldera koji ce se prvi startovati i koji ce da promeni fizicku i logicku adresu screena sve dok se ne izadje na desk. pre toga naravno mora da se ucita ekran. dakle, devpack u ruke... ;)
tt_falcon.164 kmilan,
>pa postoje dva nacina i oba nisu nimalo prijatna ;) >1. da pokrenes program iz auto foldera koji ce se prvi startovati i koji ce >da se nakaci na gemdos print tako da se ne ispisuje text s tim da vrati ... >toga naravno mora da se ucita ekran. >dakle, devpack u ruke... ;) Da znaš da nisu prijatni :-) Za početak bi mogao da nabavim devpack :-) ...
tt_falcon.165 kmilan,
Ima li neko novi brainstorm JPEG decoder za Falcona, ja imam verziju iz 1993.
tt_falcon.166 kmilan,
Da li je neko naterao Spectru da proradi na Falconu ili da li postoji neki Mac emulator za Falcona. BTW gkod šta bi sa unix-om, čuo sam de je BSB jeftiniji 50DM a da je bolji od ostalih.
tt_falcon.167 gkod,
Decko je narucio CD, kad stgne stigao je.
tt_falcon.168 kmilan,
========================= 51987 Za kmilan Nije pročitano Od stio1.sari.fh-w 25.04.97. 08:48 1655 chr --------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 08:34:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Opel <i381@stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de> **************** RUNNING NEWS ****************** * A Doom style game for ATARI Falcon computers * Sorry for the delay, but we had big trouble with our mailinglist account. ************************************************* On 14th of April RDT released the RUNNING SHAREWARE EDITION. You can download the files (Runshar1.zip, Runshar2.zip) from our homepage at: Dalje (Da/Ne/Bez pauze/Sledeća)? http://stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de/student/i381 Size at all: 1700kb. Other sites: * ftp.uni-kl.de * ftp.uni-regensburg.de * ... ************************************************** This version contains the first episode. It's full playable ! So there are different enemies, weapons, secret rooms and some other specials. Of course we don't show everything - You will get the other stuff in the following epsiodes. Please read the README and HOWTO included in the zip files for detailed information. Check it out ! Feedback: Send us your opinion, critics and maybe problem reports, please ! Development information: Dalje (Da/Ne/Bez pauze/Sledeća)? We are finishing the next two episodes at the moment. Expect five episodes in the final version. We hope to get the final version shipping soon (yes, I tell you this again and again ...). Ordering: Please DON'T order the game now ! Please wait for the FINAL RELEASE ! Everyone in the mailinglist will get the release acknowledgement right after the release - additionally one week before it a advance release note (for ordering ...) ! SO DON'T PANIC ! Your RDT team. kx0029@kulmbach.baynet.de -------------------------------------------51987--- Ko mi skine ovo dobije... dogovorićemo se!!!
tt_falcon.169 kmilan,
Ima li neko ... APEX 3 fur Falcon?
tt_falcon.170 kmilan,
Skinuo sam Running (1st episode)! Ako neko hoće neka me mail-ne. Running je igra like Duke Nukem 3D, radi u truecoloru, 320*200 (ili nešto malo više) na običnom Falconu se preporučuju niski detalji.
tt_falcon.171 stefan,
Evo nečega za vlasnike Falkona - MPEG plejer pisan specijalno za 030 i DSP od autora 1ST-Guida. Probajte pa javite kako radi. mpegdsp.ttp
tt_falcon.172 dusan,
Ako nekog još interesuje, Falconi se po Austriji (polovni preko oglasa) valjaju za oko 600 DM. Uključujući 14 MB, interni hard 2,5 65Mb i ko naleti na SPDIF.
tt_falcon.173 stefan,
>Ako nekog još interesuje, Falconi se po Austriji (polovni preko oglasa) >valjaju za oko 600 DM. Uključujući 14 MB, interni hard 2,5 65Mb i ko naleti na >SPDIF. Šta je "SPDIF"?
tt_falcon.174 kmilan,
>Ako nekog još interesuje, Falconi se po Austriji (polovni preko oglasa) a što nas ne bi interesovalo?
tt_falcon.175 kmilan,
> Šta je "SPDIF"? To je nešto za muzičare :) mislim da je digitalni izlaz za vezivanje sa DAT-om.
tt_falcon.176 kmilan,
> Evo nečega za vlasnike Falkona - MPEG plejer pisan specijalno za 030 i DSP > od autora 1ST-Guida. Probajte pa javite kako radi. Radi super/loše. Fullscreen je užasno spor - možda 3 FPS 1/4 ekrana radi sigurno 25FPS?!? da li je DSP-u mali RAM ili šta?
tt_falcon.177 gkod,
Kako radi super lose? Kod mene radi super.
tt_falcon.178 kmilan,
> Kako radi super lose? > Kod mene radi super. Ajde koristi quote! Probaj neki MPEG 320*200 i videćeš koliko seče!
tt_falcon.179 kmilan,
SPREMNI.... tri, četiri SAD ========================= 38060 Za kmilan Nije pročitano Od list@rand.thn.h 27.06.97. 14:35 925 chr --------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:05:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Stehlik <stehlik@cas3.zlin.vutbr.cz> Subject: Re: Surprise! On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Douglas Little wrote: Hi Doug, > I'd like to see it on a 68060 though, because I've been told (indirectly) > that TosQuake on a 68040 is about as fast as Amiga Quake on a 68060, so > I must be doing something right somewhere. :) A friend of mine here owns a Hades060 with PCI graphics. He wants me to adapt TOSQuaje to his Mach64 gfx card, but I am afraid I wouldn't know what to change in the source and how to do it anyway :-/ But then, I could tell you how it would be fast, because I would actually play it! I just need a Hades binary of TOSQuake :-) Petr -- WWW: http://ft3.zlin.vutbr.cz/stehlik/home.htm PARCP development e-mail: stehlik@cas3.zlin.vutbr.cz netmail: 2:421/36@fidonet.org, 90:1200/2@nest.ftn AfterBurner040 user WOOOOOOOOW... Quake on Atari!!!!!!!! Kažu ljudi da prvo moraju da vide sa programerima Quake da li imaju njihov blagoslov :)))) .................................................................... \ e-mail: kmilan@sezam.co.yu sys II: Amiga500 1MB \ \ sys I : Atari Falcon030/FPU/14MB, 210MB SCSI HD, 2400bps, SM124 \ \...................................................................\ HA, novi potpis...
tt_falcon.180 nenad,
> WOOOOOOOOW... Quake on Atari!!!!!!!! Kažu ljudi da prvo moraju da > vide sa programerima Quake da li imaju njihov blagoslov :)))) U pitanju je sors Quake-a koji je "procurio" iz firme kojoj je ID prepustio portovanje Quake-a na Linux. Neko je hakovao sajt i pokupio sors. Kao rezultat ubrzo se pojavilo nekoliko portova Quake-a na druge platforme - OS/2, Atari, Amigu, Mac-a, a postoji čak JavaQuake. :))
tt_falcon.181 kmilan,
>> WOOOOOOOOW... Quake on Atari!!!!!!!! Kažu ljudi da prvo moraju da >> vide sa programerima Quake da li imaju njihov blagoslov :)))) >U pitanju je sors Quake-a koji je "procurio" iz firme kojoj je ID >prepustio portovanje Quake-a na Linux. Neko je hakovao sajt i >pokupio sors. Kao rezultat ubrzo se pojavilo nekoliko portova >Quake-a na druge platforme - OS/2, Atari, Amigu, Mac-a, a postoji >čak JavaQuake. :)) OK ali Motorola i Intel nemaju baš veze, mislim nije lako prebaciti PC kod na Atari, ili jeste, ako jeste zašto onda jednostavno ne bi krali sourceve i prebacivali igre sa PC na Atari?!? :)
tt_falcon.182 kmilan,
Ovo je Falcon only - radiosity demo Šta je radiosity - to je napredniji način renderinga od ray-trace metode, za razliku od istog radiosity svaki osvetljeni predmet posmatra kao novi izvor svetla, odnosno poštuje odbijanje svetla za razliku od ray-tracinga (ovo možda nije 100%, to je ono što sam ja zaključio). U arhivi se nalaze dva programa RGB i VGA!
tt_falcon.183 kmilan,
Demo od malo pre će te videti kad mi neko objasni kako da zakačim file uz poruku ako mi se taj file nalazi zakačen za mail? :?
tt_falcon.185 stefan,
> Demo od malo pre će te videti kad mi neko objasni kako da zakačim file uz >poruku ako mi se taj file nalazi zakačen za mail? :? Pročitaš mail, na pitanje o prenosu odgovoriš da hoćeš "u Pad". Zatim: 1) ako si poruku uz koju kačiš fajl već napisao: conf join atari conf attach x.yyy file.ext & gde je x.yyy broj poruke uz koju kačiš fajl. 2) ako trebaš i da napišeš poruku i da okačiš fajl conf join atari conf reply a.bbb file.ext & gde je a.bbb broj poruke na koju odgovaraš (ako ne odgovaraš onda samo broj teme)
tt_falcon.186 kmilan,
Radiosity! radios.zip
tt_falcon.187 stefan,
Evo nečega za vlasnike Falcona: TurboBlanker v1.42e is a shareware Falcon only screensaver/accelerator programmed by Juergen Koneczny. Performance can be accelerated by up to 50% during screen saving, dependent upon resolution and colour depth. Works as PRG/ACC, uses monitor energy saving mode, if available, compatible with graphics cards and MagiC. Options to monitor mouse, keyboard and modem activity, 'Hot zone' and synchronisation control. *** Official English archive released by InterActive *** PAŽLJIVO pročitajte dokumentaciju pošto se spominje da neki monitori mogu biti oštećeni na ovaj način. Baš kao i autor programa ni ja ne snosim nikakvu odgovornost za posledice. tbla142e.zip
tt_falcon.188 stefan,
A evo nečega i za vlasnike TTa - radi se o, koliko sam ja mogao da shvatim iz nemačkog uputstva, snapshot programu za visoku TT rezoluciju. U svakom slučaju može se bez straha probati, nije potencijalno destruktivan :) ttsnap10.zip
tt_falcon.189 kmilan,
Imam problema sa Videlom Inside: verzija 1.x radi OK sa SM124 jer ima već podešene rezolucije! verzija 2.x nema podešene nikakve rezolucije tako da moram sam da podesim sve! Nomber de pixels par ligne: Resolution horizontale: Decalage horizontal: Nomber de lignes par VBL: Resolution verticale: Decalage vertical: vrednosti za TV rezoluciju 768*432i su sledeće: Nomber de pixels par ligne: 1018 Resolution horizontale: 768 Decalage horizontal: 274 Nomber de lignes par VBL: 258 Resolution verticale: 432 Decalage vertical: 38 H: 15717 Hz V: 60.9KHz ima li neko ideju koje vrednosti treba da upišem da bi dobio normalnu SM124 rezoluciju (640*480)? BTW zašto ni jedan od virtual desktop programa nema fino scrollovanje na SM124; vertikalno je OK ali horizontalno skače po 16 pixela?!?
tt_falcon.190 stefan,
Kad sam već počeo da dovlačim gluposti...;) FastBoot 030 v1.0beta --------------------- What is this program? --------------------- FastBoot 030 is a little nifty bootsector program that will speed up the boot process for non-IDE Falcon's. Since TOS needs about 10 seconds to discover there is no IDE-drive present, the result will be a faster boot. If you keep reading, you will get to the benchmarks. fastbt10.lzh
tt_falcon.191 kmilan,
Hi, jedno pitanje: da li je u Falconovom true coloru 1. pixel jedan word? Ako jeste to onda znači da F030 ima 32000 boja? W oRRRRRGGGGGBBBBB gde je prvi bit (o) overlay?
tt_falcon.192 kmilan,
Hitno! Na prodaju: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atari Falcon 030/4Mb, TOS 4.04 (+ VGA i SCSII kabl) ............. = 900 Dem Mono Super VGA (1024x768), ravan ekran, multisync (ok i TV rez.) = 150 Dem IDE hard disk, 2,5" (interni), 64Mb (sa kablom) ................. = 100 Dem SCSII Hard Disk 3,5" - MAXTOR 220Mb (dovoljan za 40+min semplova*)= 150 Dem SCSII hard disk kuciste - MAC dizajn (napajanje, zenski SCSII) .. = 60 Dem 44,1KHz Falcon externi klok ..................................... = 40 Dem ----------------- 1400 Dem + 2 Falcon F030 prirucnika + 3 Falcon F030 utility diska Jasno je da se za ovaj novac + Cubase Audio F030 (skupo!!!) *** dobija jedan mocni Audio + 100 Midi pesama (po izboru) ** = Poklon studio (8/16 kanala, real + 100 Modula ** time efekti) i plus 32bitni + Koprocesor 68882 (70 dem) *** kompjuter za da se nadje :) Samo u kompletu!!! *40 min muzike na 44,1KHz mono ------------------ (sigurno dovoljno za 8 pesama) (ili bez monitora) *** ide, ide pa ... SCSII ************************** Moze i trampa za razno uz doplatu! "Clipper Soft Studio" Ljubisa Raimovic 025/70-216