svet.1pifat,
Britnaski konzervativci od juče, po prvi put od maja 1979. kada ih je
Margaret Tačer dovela ponovo na vlast, imaju manjinu u parlamentu.
Smrću 56-godišnjeg konzervativnog poslanika Jana Milsa dosadašnja
konzervativna većina se konačno istopila, i sve je izvesnije da će se
izbori održati i pre maja ove godine, kada ističe mandat sadašnjeg
sastava parlamenta.
svet.2acag,
Evo jedan interesantan citat iz prijateljevog pisma (Toronto):
"....
nase potrebe ali ipak dovoljno za americke pojmove. Premda nismo tamo, mi
svakodnevno navijamo, a nadam se da cemo osetiti deo tamosnje atmosfere 25-og
Januara kada se organizuje protestni miting u Torontu ispred "Gradske
Vijecnice"
(zasto tamo neznamo, verovatno sto je pogodan prostor za okupljanje), a kada
zaustavimo saobracaj i pocnemo setnju usi ce samo da bride od novcanih kazni.
Moramo da nabavimo negde pistaljke da pravimo buku.
...."
Yesss..!
svet.3morkin,
> Evo jedan interesantan citat iz prijateljevog pisma (Toronto):
I jedan iz USA:
Lik koji je sada u San Francisku svaki dan (veče kod nas) lupa u 19:30 po
našem vremenu i ometa RTS1...
svet.4schef,
U Francuskoj, u gradu Vitrolu, na lokalnim izborima pobedio je NFF,
ali bivša vlast nije mogla da prihvati poraz, pa je izazvala sukobe između
svojih i pristalica Lepenovog NFF. Inače, to je 4. grad na jugu Francuske u
kome pobeđuje desnica, t.j. NFF što pokazuje da nacionalizam polako jača i u
zemljama koje bi trebalo da budu uzori ;) građanske države.
Eh, izgleda da ni Francuzi nisu imuni na (ne)mirnu (ne)predaju vlasti. ;>
svet.5nenad,
> Inače, to je 4. grad na jugu Francuske
> u kome pobeđuje desnica, t.j. NFF što pokazuje da nacionalizam polako
> jača i u zemljama koje bi trebalo da budu uzori ;) građanske države.
Kako ono beše funkcioniše tvoj logički aparat: činjenica da SPO
dobija puno glasova je dokaz koliko je narod naivan, a činjenica
da SRS dobija puno glasova je dokaz da se narod otrežnjuje? ;)
Mora da si ti čovek koji je uvek srećan, sve je dokaz za nešto
što ide tebi u prilog, pa makar se radilo i o potpuno istoj
stvari samo sa drugim akterima. ;)
Ajde nećemo da pitamo koliko Francuska ima gradova, samo ćemo da
se podsetimo da je jug Francuske onaj njen najmanje razvijeni
deo, a kako te delove države najjače pogađaju i recesija i svi
ekonomski problemi, logično je da ne glasaju za vlast. i da
traže krivce u drugima nacijama, a rešenje za svoje probleme
traže u alternativnim putevima, pa i u onim ekstremnim koja
uključuju izolacionizam, šovinizam i sl.
Tako je i Hitler došao na vlast, u ekonomski razorenoj Nemačkoj,
okrivljujući Jevreje, Slovene... Ali šta ćeš, ni Hitler nije
savršen. ;) Ili je sve to bila propaganda i marketing? ;)
svet.6nenad,
Čuli ste za ono masovno samoubistvo gde se 39 članova neke sekte
ubilo? Ono što možda niste čuli je da su oni bili Web dizajneri i
imali firmu koja se zvala ni manje ni više nego - Higher Source. ;)
Možete ih naći na http://www.cris.com/~font/, tj. ono što je iza
njih ostalo. ;)
Group in mass suicide apparently ran Web design firm
The 39 men and women found dead after an apparent mass suicide in
a mansion outside San Diego yesterday were evidently Web site
developers who ran a Denver-based design firm called Higher
Source Contract Enterprises, sources said today.
The company's own Web site, at www.cris.com/~font/, makes no
mention of any type of cult or religious affiliation, though it
does give an extensive list of services.
"We at Higher Source not only cater to customizing Web sites that
will enhance your company image, but strive to make your
transition into the world of cyberspace a very easy and
fascinating experience," the company says in its service pitch.
The bodies were found late yesterday afternoon inside a sprawling
estate in Rancho Santa Fe, Calif., according to the San Diego
County Sheriff's Department. The identically dressed victims bore
no signs of violence, and no suicide note was found, police said.
The exact cause of their deaths has not been determined.
The home was apparently rented to either Higher Source or some of
its individual employees, and neighbors reportedly have described
its occupants as referring to the mansion as their "temple." A
large variety of computer equipment, apparently used for
designing Web sites for clients including the San Diego Polo Club
and a film production company called Kushner-Locke, was found
inside the home, police said.
Higher Source also offered Java and VRML programming, systems
analysis, and consulting services, according to the company's
advertising.
The sales pitch also pointed out: "The individuals at the core of
our group have worked closely together for over 20 years ... We
try to stay positive in every circumstance and put the good of a
project above any personal concerns or artistic egos."
Officials at Higher Source did not return phone calls seeking
comment this morning.
svet.7djino,
Poruka od suicidne 39-orke..
Par slika uz poruku..
HEAVEN'S GATE
From: rep@heavensgate.com (Rep)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: TIME TO DIE FOR GOD? OR ARMAGEDDON--WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 03:30:02 GMT
Organization: Spacestar Communications, Minneapolis, MN, USA
Lines: 172
Message-ID:
TIME TO DIE FOR GOD?
or
ARMAGEDDON--WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?
We are at the end of an Age, or the end of another civilization. As
was prophesied, this is the "judgment time" for all living creatures
on or related to this planet--in other words, the time when "where
we find ourselves," as a result of our accumulated choices during our
time here, determines our Judgment.
The choices of many will find them in a "mind set" that would see the
above statements as "cultish," radical, and doomsdayish, to say the
least, while others have chosen to seek mental nourishment that would
have them suspect "Truth" in these statements. With little awareness
of it, all of us at this time are finding ourselves aligning with
others of common mind. This commonness becomes our mental
preoccupation. Though subconscious, it takes the form of our
determination or judgment of what is RIGHT or GOOD, or who is
superior, or has been suppressed or wronged. Some are also
preoccupied with racial supremacy, which religious concept is truly
God's, and who presently represents the real "Satan."
There is a simple evolutionary procedure which applies to those who
might leave or graduate from the human kingdom and enter the
Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human (the Kingdom of Heaven or
Kingdom of God). Periodically, the Kingdom Level Above Human sends
one of its members "down" into the human kingdom (to incarnate into a
human body)--one who has previously been taken through that
evolutionary transition--to offer the knowledge to those who have
been "picked" as possible recipients of that graduation information.
This Representative of that Next Kingdom literally takes those
candidates through their weaning from the human world--assisting
them in the actual separation or breaking of ties to their humanness,
and helping them "graft" to Him as the Representative of that Next
Level. Their final separation is the willful separation from their
human body, when they have changed enough to identify as the
spirit/mind/soul, ready to put on a biological body belonging to the
Kingdom of Heaven. (This entering into their "glorified" or heavenly
body takes place aboard a Next Level spacecraft, above the Earth's
surface.)
At the close of an Age there are:
1. Some individuals who have connected with that Representative
and separated from humanness enough to move into MEMBERSHIP in that
Next Kingdom, and into a physical body belonging to that Kingdom Level
Above Human;
2. Those who have not reached that degree of separation, but are
aware of and believe the information that the Next Level
Representative brought, and are separating to the degree of their
capability;
3. Those who are compelled to separate, but who have not seen or
consciously known of that Representative--His information or His
presence.
These two latter groups will be taken into the keeping of the Next
Level until they have a later chance at further separation and
overcoming, and they are examples of the meaning of--"If you
believe...you will be saved."
This bottom-lines at the point where the only ones who will NOT BE
RECYCLED will be THOSE WHO HAVE OVERCOME UNDER THE
REPRESENTATIVE'S TUTORSHIP; THOSE WHO HAVE KNOWN
HIM AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF OVERCOMING; and THOSE
WHO HAVE HEARD HIS VOICE MENTALLY, BUT HAVE NOT
CONNECTED WITH HIM CONSCIOUSLY. These who have CONNECTED
MENTALLY are driven, during this period, to go against the world --
the systems, the socially and politically accepted "norms"--and are
determined (as if they can't help themselves) to go to "God" or Allah,
by any name, and to die in opposition to this world, or to simply
leave it, even by their own hand if necessary--to "go to God" or His
Son, according to whatever their religious backgrounds may have been.
(For this "End of the Age" task, this Representative and His Father
have been closely relating to this civilization since the early 1970's
-- their thoughts have been in this atmosphere and "tappable" during
this time.) Some examples of those whose ideologies suggest that they
have CONNECTED MENTALLY, cover a broad spectrum--from the Weavers
at Ruby Ridge, the Branch Davidians at Waco, the Unabomber, the Order
of the Solar Temple, Aum Shinri Kyo of Japan, the Freemen of Montana,
to UFO believers, and others. Many like these are still in hiding,
while others take the form of the patriot/militia movements, Farrakhan
and the Nation of Islam, the many other Islamic movements, and
countless groups that are simply rebelling from the system, the
"norm," and WANT TO GO TO GOD, OR LEAVE THIS CORRUPT WORLD,
at any price.
To the groups and individuals mentioned above, and to this
Representative who is writing this statement, the representatives of
"this world" (the "socially acceptable"--faithful servants of the
dominant religions and governments who seek for a future in this
world) represent the OPPOSITION, the "Lower Forces," or "Satan." To
the mainstream "acceptable" world, it seems that the religious zealots
are "self-righteous," imbalanced, and dangerous to society's "norm,"
when in reality, those of the mainstream or accepted "norm" are the
very ones who have no hesitation to judge and condemn those who are
not like them--especially those who are preoccupied with God. They
also have no hesitation to impose their ungodly ways and laws "of man"
upon those of the rest of the world who are not like them--actively
engaging in, or attempting to engage in the punishment or containment
of those they would consider religious "radicals." Examples of how
this misplaced judgment is forced upon religious zealots are seen in
how the authorities treated the Weavers at Ruby Ridge, David Koresh
and the Branch Davidians at Waco, and the actions presently being
taken against Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
The leadership of the world, in imposing man's laws, deceives and lies
about the reasons for their actions, making it appear that they are
humanitarian. They seldom expose their real motivations of greed and
covetousness of what others have, that they feel they must have or
remain in control of, in order to continue "saving the world" from
what they would consider the "barbaric" or "radical" elements of
humanity. These dominant forces are motivated by their own
COUNTERFEIT "truth" supported by their COUNTERFEIT religions. Some
examples are: how the True God of the Jews has been replaced by a
COUNTERFEIT "palatable" God who encourages "go and multiply" (family
values), "peace on Earth," and seek a global unity toward a Heaven on
Earth; and how the True Christ or Jesus has been replaced by a
COUNTERFEIT Jesus who lives "within your heart" and preaches the same,
i.e., multiply, seek peace on Earth and unity toward the future of
mankind.
To state it simply, in this "battle," the servants of the ungodly side
LIKE THIS WORLD and want to EXTEND THEIR LIFE IN IT at any cost --
while the servants of the Godly side HAVE GROWN TO DESPISE THIS WORLD
AND WANT TO LEAVE IT, looking for someone or something to offer them a
way out--though some may be fearful of the unknown--still trusting
that whatever is BEYOND must be better than what they have found here.
What mainstream society doesn't know is that, in fact, THERE IS A REAL
PHYSICAL KINGDOM OF GOD from which everything of this world came.
THAT KINGDOM STILL HAS COMPLETE POWER OVER THIS WORLD,
though It has infrequently exercised it in the latter part of this
civilization. However, WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE THAT POWER DRAMATICALLY
EXERCISED--PHYSICALLY--NOW, AT THE CLOSE OF THIS AGE. The
civilization doesn't seem to learn that man's laws and God's laws do
not mix. Man's laws are structured to protect money, property
ownership, and national and family interests, and religions have
deteriorated to support these concepts/laws. God's laws have been
reduced to being adhered to by only a few during the time one of His
Representatives is present, though because we're at the End of the
Age, the groups and individuals seen as religious radicals are also
attempting to move closer to abiding by God's laws, and find
themselves in irrevocable conflict with those who simply abide by
man's laws.
THE ONLY TRUE GOD BY ANY NAME, ON ANY PLANET, IN ANY TIME,
IN ANY COUNTRY, IN ANY RELIGION--ONLY WANTS HIS PROSPECTIVE
CHILDREN TO DESIRE TO COME TO HIM AND TO HIS KINGDOM BY
LEAVING OR GRADUATING FROM THE HUMAN KINGDOM WITH THE
HELP OF HIS REPRESENTATIVE.
It seems that those of the socially acceptable mainstream unwittingly
at times assist those they see as "radicals" in their goal of wanting
to leave the human kingdom, by being instruments of their demise.
Also, the feuds between today's rival ethnic groups are accelerating
the judgment of their desires, and the expediting of their end. When
we judge others negatively, we are judged negatively, whether the
rules of those we judge agree with ours or not. For a nation to
condemn another nation or head of a nation because they believe they
have a special connection with God, is out of their realm of judgment
and is condemnable by the Next Level. The mainstream condemns as if
they were sure that their God is the true God of Heaven, for they
openly mandate what is "right," "wrong," or proper concerning the
conduct of individuals, groups, other nations, and their leaders.
Whether we like it or not, the Armageddon--the Mother of Holy Wars
-- has begun, and it will not cease until the plowing under is
completed. It may be that the establishment liberates the "radicals"
so that they may go "home," and that the Angelic Armies of the Kingdom
of Heaven will complete the spading under--the end of the Age. On
which side are you? Will you go into the keeping of the Next Level,
or to dust return?
http://www.heavensgate.com
suicide.rarsvet.8djino,
Zanimljiv detalj.. ;)
CNN - Insurer no longer offers kidnapping-by-aliens coverage - Apr. 2, 1997
Insurer no longer offers kidnapping-by-aliens coverage
Change made after cult suicides
April 2, 1997
Web posted at: 8:05 p.m. EST (0105 GMT)
LONDON (AP)--The company that insured the 39 members of the Heaven's
Gate cult against abduction by aliens stopped offering the policy
after their mass suicide last week, managing director Simon Burgess
said Wednesday.
"Because of the manipulation of malevolent third parties, innocent
lives were wrecked," he said. "I am deeply shocked and saddened,
and that's why we're withdrawing from the market. ... We don't wish
to contribute to a repetition of the Heaven's Gate deaths."
The cult members bought a policy last October for $1,000, which covered
up to 50 members and would pay $1 million per person for abduction,
impregnation or death caused by aliens.
"They were aware that we provided alien-abduction insurance from
the Internet," Burgess said.
The 39, including leader Marshall Applewhite, took their own lives
last week at a home on the outskirts of San Diego, California, seeking
redemption in a spaceship they believed was trailing the Hale-Bopp
comet.
The beneficiary of the policy was the Society of Heaven's Gate, said
Burgess, managing director of the brokerage Goodfellow Rebecca Ingrams
Pearson, or GRIP. [I]
The brokerage added alien insurance to its list of policies last
summer. Heaven's Gate was one of 4,000 policyholders worldwide that
bought it, Burgess said. Britain and the United States were the biggest
markets.
While those policies will not be renewed, the company still offers
other unusual policies, which account for about 10 percent of business.
"We insure virgins against immaculate conception; prostitutes against
loss of earnings from headache and backache; conversion to a werewolf
or vampire; death or serious injury through paranormal activity;
and unfaithful husbands against Bobbitting," he said.
This was a reference to John Bobbitt, whose wife severed his penis
in 1993.
The cult's policy, meantime, remains in force until October, but
collecting on it is another issue entirely.
"They would have to prove that they were abducted," Burgess said.
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svet.9dragoljub,
Izgleda da veliki broj stranaka na izborima nije naša
izmišljotina. Na poslednjim izborima u V. Britaniji pojavilo se
stotinjak partija! Dakle osim konzervativaca, laburista i
socijal-demokrata postoje još i partije kao što su: Partija
prirodnog zakona (izgleda da je ovo međunarodni pokret :), Partija
pravog mesta za piknik, Partija crnokosih prosečno građenih belaca
(ili tako nekako) i još nake partije tipa Partija tog-i-tog ...
svet.10gmatic,
==> socijal-demokrata postoje jos i partije kao sto su: Partija
==> prirodnog zakona (izgleda da je ovo medunarodni pokret :),
==> Partija pravog mesta za piknik, Partija crnokosih prosecno
==> gradenih belaca (ili tako nekako) i jos nake partije tipa
==> Partija tog-i-tog ...
A ja mislio da je Secerovski lud?
Ma on bi tamo i predsednik bio!!!