rap.1204brka,
EPMD "Out of Business " (DefJam)
Mike Foam & guest reviewer PoppaWu break it down
Mike:
I felt like it might be hard to write a non-biased view of the
EPMD album being that I grew up near them and that they've been
such a staple in hiphop. However, the brothers from Brentwood
Long Island make it easy. This album should be called "Gimmick
Business." Come with the last album stupid hype already. Just
make music or don't. The beats on the new album sound like
some left over funk loops while the rhymes are tired. Why did
PMD abandon his once flavorful style for this new thug "I love
Mobb Deep" lifestyle. That's even more tired than being able
to guess the exact rhyme that Erick Sermon is going to say
next. "The Symphony" has a slammin'beat and the rhymes are
okay but here's what pissed me off, "The Symphony 2000," is
the same exact beat and EPMD kick the same rhymes. The only
difference are the guest rappers. Some marketing executive
stepped in and said "M.O.P. aren't popular, lets do the same
exact track but put Redman, Method Man (an amazing
performance), and (who the 'f' is) Lady Luck. Like it would
have taken so long for Erick & Parrish to write one more tired
verse. Another sleepy remix is flipped off their 1993 classic
"Rap is Outta Control." On "Rap is still outta control," Busta
Rhymes adds some seriously needed flavor. Yet the beat on the
new song isn't better than the old song. Why mess with a
classic if you can't make it better? "House Party" is the
type ridiculous attempt at making a studio track sound like a
party - thumbs down. The album wouldn't be complete without
"Jane 6" which samples the Rick James classic "Mary Jane."
It's alright. How do we save this review? By listening to
disc #2, EPMD's greatest hits. Besides the jokes, all of
your favorites are here: "You Gots 2 Chill," "So Whatcha
Sayin," "Big Payback," "Gold Digger," "Rampage," "Headbanger,"
and more. The jokes are that they've included "Never Seen
Before," and "Da Joint," from their last album Back in
Business. Hardly classics but it will be nice for the new
hiphoppers to hear the older jams that we were vibin' to.
PoppaWu:
The new EPMD is most definitely "The Joint" and should be
called Business Forever. The rap game is filled with non-lyrical
mc's (mostly outside the East coast) but these lyrical legends
are back and sounding like they took a walk through a tunnel of
originality rhyming like Rakim when he returned. Parrish keeps
his deep rugged flow especially on the jams "Check 1,2, and
"Hold Me Down." The intro has a tight beat and the two flow
over it like the fountain of youth the mic doctors must have
spending a lot of time in. Draw is a phat joint where Parrish
raps like he is in a modern day western and Erick literally rips
up the track like a train wreck. House Party is a Def Jam which
sounds like an old K Solo song but much rougher. In Symphony
2000 Meth and Red spit memorable verses but the original is also
ill featuring Brooklyn's finest M. O. P. In that version Erick
kinda disses Silk the Shocker by saying "it ain't my fault im
sick enough to shock you" but its not certain that it's a diss.
Hopefully it is! The tape ends rightfully with Jane 6 and it
is also a classic. The only disappointment is that Busta Rhymes
only does a hook but its cool because the jam is still bangin
like the beats on the whole tape (let's hope they didn't have
to pay Busta for it). Erick still freaks the funk to the
fullest which is dope just to hear a great veteran rhyme with
the best. For example, listen to his verse in "U Got Shot,"
and "The Funk." Overall the two hold each other down even
better than ever without selling out or telling some weak gory
story about a bitch or some shit doesn't have any meaning.
Long live the real east coast rap and end the crap.
rap.1208brka,
PETE ROCK "Soul Surivor" (Loud)
Another P.R. and C.L. Smooth album minus the C.L. for the most
part except for one song. Instead of just producing for other
artists on their albums, Pete Rock came out with his own
anything but "solo" joint featuring everybody. I like Pete
Rock. I think he's one of the best producers out there next
to Phonjuan and Sty of course. "Soul Survivor" has its beat
interludes as well as cameo interludes. My favorite interlude
is Fat Man Scoob comparing Pete Rock to Salaam. The production
is tight throughout. I think (insert the wackest emcee you
know) could sound dope over a P.R. track. The songs which stand
out feature Method Man, Large Professor and Kool G. Rap, and
Big Pun, Common, and Nore. I like P.R.'s style. He has good
lyrics. He's better than most of the rappers on the album. I
could have lived without Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz and MC Eight
and the reggae track. Also, I like the woman on the cover of
the album. Overall, the album is good. In the future, Pete Rock,
do not invite any more Wutang members on songs because after
Meth, Raekwon, Inspector Deck, & GZA, the rest suck. Peace,
Balls across the nose.
Jawn Outlandish
rap.1209brka,
SLICK RICK "The Art of Storytelling" (Def Jam)
Does it seem like the Ruler has released four full albums?
Not really. On his latest, the flow is still there. Both
"The Ruler's Back" and follow up "Behind Bars" were written
with a two week time. This latest release has the Def Jam
2000 marketing behind Rick, which is what he needs if young
people are going to purchase this middle-aged man's hiphop.
It's nice to see older artists still rocking it, because
this will lead us to believe that people (besides KRS-1)
may have the option of having a long career in hiphop.
However, it always seems almost border-line gimmick with
all of the comeback albums as of late. The first track
"Kill Niggaz" has a smooth beat and is a nice way to
start the album. The first single "Street Talkin'"
featuring OutKast is off the hinges as well. Then the
album goes through a mediocre spell for a few songs until
the Raymond Deal produced "I Run This." It's hyped as
hell and it doesn't quit when "Frozen" featuring the
wordsmith Raekwon bangs your box. After subjecting
yourself to a few more average cuts, "We Turn It On"
featuring Doug E. Fresh will having you breaking out the
card board to flex your head spin. Slammin' execution -
this beat is what we need more of. The one thing that
bugs me about this album is that there are two live
tracks at the end, and the bad thing is that "The Show"
featuring Doug E. Fresh is one of them. The first line
of the song is messed up by Rick. I mean live is cool,
but to fuck up the first line? Considering all the
people on this album, RevRun, Redman, Nas, Outkast,
Canibus, Raekwon, Q-Tip, Peter Gunz, Snoop Dog, and
Kid Capri, the album isn't what it should be. I guess
I'm just still waiting for The Greatest Adventures of
Pt. II. But trying to find a sound that works these days
while keeping your original sound intact is hard work.
Still, I would rather listen to Slick anyday than half
of these so-called MC's that record companies serve to
us gold before we even hear the album. Knock 'em out
the box, Rick.
Mike Foam
rap.1211mango,
Gde se u Beogradu mogu kupiti rap diskovi? Pre je bio solidan izbor u Music
Hole-u, ali je ta prodavnica (koliko ja znam) zatvorena?
rap.1214brka,
CYPRESS HILL, "Cypress Hill IV" (Ruffhouse)
For those of you that don't know, Sen Dog was absent from
Cypress Hill "III-The Temples of Boom." For those you that
care, he is back. After all, reunions in hiphop are
inevitable. After hearing the first track "Looking Through
the Eye of a Pig," one may think that Cypress are trying
to emulate their first album. Sen Dog's here and B-Real is
rhyming on the first track cops again. This time B-Real
twists it by rhyming from the perspective of a cop. The
difference from this album and the debut is in the beats.
Like the last Cypress album, D.J. Muggs has sampled his
own original music to create loops. Some of the drum
patterns aren't anything special but most of the loops
are very original and harness that Cypress energy.
"Prelude to a Come Up" has an ill infectious piano loop that
can't be missed. I think all of the tracks are pretty nice.
Muggs has always been a top notch producer and nothing has
changed in that department. He mixes all the tracks as well
so each element has it's own logical place. So was it all
good having Sen Dog return? I guess. I mean it's nice to
hear his patented gruff back-ups. However, his rhymes are
straight up wack! I know he's never been a lyrical genius
but he's hurting worse than ever. Even B-Real's rhymes
aren't that good. Only on "Audio X" does he rip it with
a kind of double time flow. Otherwise it's a lot of
cursing a tired topics. Hardcore hustling and weed.
B-Real should use his voice to talk about some new issues.
Cypress has had a successful tour for years. Headlining
the Smoking Grooves Tour has helped them to acclaim a
sort of 'Grateful Dead for Hiphop Heads' status. They
could really use this ground to voice some new opinions
to the youth. The weed anthem on this joint is "Dr. Green
Thumb." An overall good addition to their weed
repetoire but the album is nothing special.
Mike Foam
rap.1215brka,
"Rawkus Presents Heavy Beats Volume 1 'DJ SPINNA'"
I might have dissed DJ Spinna in the last review because I
felt that it would have been cooler for Sir Menelik and Grand
Puba to get more of a hyped beat. I guess he was saving his
gems for this project. A very jazzy, sometimes instrumental
sometimes lyrical hiphop mini-album. Once the third track
plays, things start moving. "Grooveamungus" is a slammin'
up tempo instrumental to get the mind flowin'. Then Apani'
B Fly Emcee blesses verbal airspace along side fellow
prodigy Talib Kweli on "Time Zone" . Next comes another
party anthem instrumental that uses the word "rock" from
different samples. Not too exciting until "Watch Dees"
with Eminem & Thirstin Howl III. I know I kind of dissed
Thirstin Howl before because I knew he was capable of more.
He's better on this track but Thirstin needs to be heard in
concert to be fully understood. I haven't seen Eminem live
but he always seems to rip it on record and this track is
no different. The tape is cool cuz Spinna has his own style
of beats. "The Haunted Space Freak" may be up for beat of
the year. I admire Spinna for producing with all types of
heads both in the states and over seas. Him and Hi-Tek
look like the next generation Pete Rock & Premier
respectively.
Mike Foam
rap.1216brka,
"COMPANY FLOW Presents Little Johnny From The Hospital" (Rawkus)
I respect Company Flow for doing their own thing. They don't try
to follow trends, they create them. Their latest release is
entirely instrumental. One might ask, are these throw away
beats that didn't make the next upcoming CoFlo release? Perhaps.
We presented these beats in a laboratory safe setting for fellow
globalhiphop memebers PhonX & Spark Mindcrime to cypher over.
They were talkin' about stuff and I got spit on repeatedly!
Everything went well until Spark's chemical composition became
warped beyond recognition. This was due to the present
environment of Kremlyovskaya Vodka w/ Strawberry Orange Banana
juice, PhonX talkin' out his ass, and the new Co-Flow dark gritty
beat release. Some of the beats seemed hard to flow over but you
have to think of El-P & the Juggaknots lacing this beat LP.
You know they did. Could you compete with them? If you could
flow over these beats as well or better than those who made them,
then you are ready to commit to the opinion of disliking them.
Until then, emcees need to experiment over this beatscape.
Non-emcees may not understand. If I get it requested, I will
put some audio from that cypher here.
Mike Foam
rap.1218brka,
-> #1178, darklord
> Ajde poshalji josh nesto u vezi Beastie Boys'a !
> I ako znash mozda sta je sa 5-tim albumom Cypress Hill-a ???
Potrudicu se da nadjem nesto...
A sto se tice novog albuma za Cypress Hill... o tome se
jos nista ne prica. Cim cujem nesto - dojavicu.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1221stukelj,
e, pipl, ortak mi nesto sere za paf dedi i ajs kjub txtove, pa, aj
nek neko sruci ovde sta ima od doticnih...
rap.1222gdown,
-> #1221, stukeljCUbe
rap.1223gdown,
-> #1222, gdownDa probam ovako :(
Artist: Ice Cube
Album: Lethal Injection
Song: Make it Ruff, Make it Smooth
Intro: K-Dee, Ice Cube
[hey yo cube]
MAKE IT RUFF
[cube check it out]
whassup?
[yo this bitch was suckin my dick, you know what i told her?]
what?
[make the music with ya mouth biiiyaaatch!]
hahahaha, baby baby!
[hahah ya like that]
MAKE IT RUFF
[naw, make it smooth]
Verse One: Ice Cube, K-Dee
i make niggas say 'woof' cos i'm in the coupe with no roof
[ya smell like somethin 90-proof]
cos i'm ruff, and nigga you can buck these nuts
if you comin with that smooth shit, hard core rules shit
[i make the hoes say 'hay' each and every day
bitch cos i'm the k-dee, no i'm not a g]
mothafuckin wannabe mack
[but i'm smooth like that]
i gots ta buck...you...right on up, punk you lucky that cha livin
cos i'm the unforgiven; i like power, ain't a damn thing funny
[i like pussy and money
and i won't slam like onyx or never ever stutter
but i'm b-b-butter;
leader of the new school, you hard core fool!]
nigga make it ruff! [make it smooth!]
<and i'm here>
MAKE IT RUFF [naw, make it smooth.]
Verse Two: K-Dee, Ice Cube
[K-Dee]
you can lick me up and down till i yell stop!
damn bitch ya missed a drop...cos i don't play when i sway
it's the quicker picker upper;
a pro that moves slow before this hoe i'm quick
to dump her; so eeny-meeny-miney-mo, where's my dough?
i gots ta make a livin, i out ta get mo;
money, and got more nuts for ya honey; so
come and break me off, this nigga's walkin soft;
it's the smoothness that make niggas move to this;
for you ruffnecks, i'll check you with my tool and shit;
don't sweat 'em, just let 'em play that hardcore
role; we still cool, but just make it smooth...
[Ice Cube]
you know what, it's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder
how i keep from goin under, i'm chocolate thunder;
ruff as sin, cuts on ya skin
and i blend with the tracks, see i'm black
k-dee is the mack; matter fact
niggas hit me up with the c's and b's
but you don't wanna fuck wit these
cos i'll put 'em on ya
and we'll have to wake ya mothafuckin ass up with ammonia
cos hardcore rap is always on the map and it don't stop
devoid of pop; and if i drop another smooth hit
it'll still be hard, cos i helped start this shit;
so make it ruff [naw make it smooth!]
make it ruff! [make it smooth!!]
make it ruff! [make it smooth!!]
MAKE IT RUFF
[..naw...make it smooth.]
MAKE IT- MAKE IT RUFF
[naw, make it smooth.]
Verse Three: Ice Cube, K-Dee
i hate when niggas get too fuckin sexy on the track, i'm pro black.
[well i'm a pro-mack.]
i like hittin switches.
[i love hittin bitches, cos i'm a player.]
hard rhyme sayer!
[i thought you knew, but ain't no thang, you knew the way i swang;
creepin, ain't no sleepin, ain't a damn thing changed; i hit hoe
after
hoe with this laid-back shit.]
fool, i kill at will and still can fade that shit; cos it's the
predator, i edit(?) her, so nigga watch yo step!
[you in a gang like starr, tryina get a rep!]
it ain't no sweat for me to buck buck nigga don't give a fuck; you
better duck duck or get your ass stuck stuck!
[don't let the smooth shit fool ya, cos i can get it on; cos i be
breakin bones like dragonfly jones; quick to put em on ya.]
don't make me act a fool! nigga, make it ruff!
[make it smooth!]
<and i'm in here...>
MAKE IT RUFF
make it ruff [make it smooth]
MAKE- MAKE IT- MAKE IT RUFF
...make it ruff [make it smooth!]
MAKE IT RUFF
ice cube's up in this motherfucker
[k-dee's up in this motherfucker]
MAKE IT RUFF [naw make it smooth.]
MAKE IT RUFF [naw, make it smooth!]
MAKE- MAKE IT RUFF- RUFF
MAKE- MAKE IT RUFF [naw make it smooth.]
MAKE IT RUFF- RUFF [naw, make it smooth.]
[naw, naw, make it smooth]
[naw, make it smooth]
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Artist: Ice Cube
Album: Lethal Injection
Song: Really Doe
Verse One:
To G or not to G is the question
And like Smith told Wesson
I'm shady with the .380 old school diploma
I'll leave that ass in a coma
So-if you got a herring bone
Welcome to the Terrordome
Two-eleven, sorry Reverend
Oh my god, gettin' robbed
Reach for the small, Atomic Dog
Hard to swallow, shaky hands wallow
Count to ten, and don't try to follow
Cause just like Waco, I can take four,
ATF, to they death
Bust a left on Weston, go and get a room
Don't want to be a felon like Stacey Koon
Get the white bitch, hit the light switch
Here we go
Tap that ass like this -
Really doe
Verse Two:
Throw me in a holding tank, catch the vapors
Make me a pillow out of toilet paper
Concrete bench kickin' off the hemorrhoids
Ese's deep, don't fuck with them boys
Phone check, co-llect call from the baller
Her mama said please don't call her
Do-Wah-Diddy, far from New Jack City,
Seen one of my peers
What the fuck you doin' in here?
He said, "187 on the enemy"
And they treat me like I just shot a Kennedy!
Deputy bitch thinks she's the queen bee
Ink on my thumb, index, and pinky
"Sir, what set you from?"
Play dumb - "General population"
Mama put your house up
And I can bounce up
Out this motherfucker
That's why I love ya'
Out like a boss, with a half-pint of sauce
Got the shit sewed up like Betsy Ross
With a friend no, want some Endo
Never fuck with a silly ho
Really Doe!
Verse Three:
Knock you out like NyQuil, I'll kill you quick
Sucker for love ass-trick
So don't run up, wit ya gun up
Cause I got the back breaker
Double-pump rump shaker
Cause you can play hooky
In the Aqua Boogie
With concrete nikes
Ya get no stripes
Livin' unforgivin' with the mic on,
And punks runnin' like roaches with the light on
And that's for the shit I'm startin'
Bust a cap - like Jerome on Martin
You lookin' for a punk with benefits
Cause you got a baby, that takes many shits
And you know I got a grip
Like a baby on a tit
Scopin' hopin', thighs open
But I kick back, sit back
And hit the Philly slow, hooker ho
Really doe
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Artist: Ice Cube
Album: Lethal Injection
Song: The Shot
[phones ringing, babies crying]
white guy: Hi how ya doin' ?
nurse: Doctor's office, could you hold please? Yes sir can I help
you?
white guy: Yes I have a four o'clock appointment, I'm here to get
my shot.
nurse: Okay, come right with me.
white guy: This isn't gonna take too long is it?
nurse: Here we are, here s,thanks.
nurse: The doctor wt.dotswhy: w tso
orsfusihe backround]
doctor Ice Cube: Yo wussup?
white guy: Hi how ya doin' ?
doctor Ice Cube: A he, i
teYethe.oce heea t.
doctor Ice Cube: Aww you're a big boy uhh this won't hurt a bit,
hhd.uys isw
Ie:uh ae l ret y uceel[
!]
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Artist: Ice Cube
Album: Lethal Injection
Song: U Know How We Do It
I ... kw it Son but the bomb-ass rap song
Hitting all night long
Just like me on the black and white ivory
esin L uenice
They wanna hand me a stripes like Dennis the Menace
But that ain't popping, ain't no stoppi' groCeI check that chin
Down as fuck and I'm full off Hen
You gets no love and I thought you knew it
Fool, you know how we do it
dein t
T
ngthesinbuuble parked and I'm talking to Dove
About who got a plan, who got a ath
I'm down with Eiht and, what's up
Kam is sel utrt go love and I thought you knew it
Fool, you know how we do it
Chorus
hokehot lead in your ass
With more bounce to the ounce in a dash
MaVes---------------------------------------------------------------
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Artist: Ice Cube
Alb: l iogt DoToday, how you like me now, I'm in the mix?
It'Now I slang keys
Infest my hood with crack, cuz I'm the mack
Take a natittinianicsetenwae, a key is 13-5
'89s the number, another summer
Police ain't get no dumber
Streets dried up, usediisnge Tedasorngldw myn Minnesota
Got my own crew, it's on bs,'oin' to see the Twins, play at the dome
Police are tappin' mytowrsed
Now take a look at the dust
And I'm happy cuz I only got 36 months
Never picked up a book
But in the pen, now it's ninety-fo
Back in LA, and I'm bailin'he
od I srotcwh , ggrkjackin' for a coupe
Cuz, they sent in the troops
Even tho I got musclsn' eonttlaegee aas
(Yeah you Nigga, who me?)
I got a baby on the way, damn it'sa Ha eencta ? Thelp you?
sh*t, what can I do?
Today...
Outro:
The white man has broke every law known to mantaAa.het tteehet
ters. Now we gonna look and see if
this muthapkeuir tortion,
aggravatinirca aleonki egpratd-d .
ievar
Je*iga sjebalo se na kraju ali poslacu ti drugi put
rap.1224gligo,
-> #1221, stukeljRe: Ice Cube-ovi txtovi
Ima svega, soundtrack Friday, Predator, Lethal Injection...
Uzivaj...
ic.txtrap.1225nenad,
It's all about the Pentiums
(by Weird Al Jankovic)
It's all about the Pentiums, baby
Uhh, uh-huh, yeah Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
It's all about the Pentiums, baby
It's all about the Pentiums, baby
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
(Yeah!!)
What y'all wanna do?
Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers
Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers?
9 to 5, chillin' at Hewlett Packard?
Workin' at a desk with a dumb little placard?
Yeah, payin' the bills with my mad programming skills
Defraggin' my hard drive for thrills
I got me a hundred gigabytes of RAM
I never feed trolls and I don't read spam
Installed a T1 line in my house
Always at my PC, double-clickin' on my mizouse
Upgrade my system at least twice a day
I'm strictly plug-and-play, I ain't afraid of Y2K
I'm down with Bill Gates, I call him Money for short
I phone him up at home and I make him do my tech support
It's all about the Pentiums, what?
You gotta be the dumbest newbie I've ever seen
You've got white-out all over your screen
You think your Commodore 64 is really neato
What kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?
You're using a 286? Don't make me laugh
Your Windows boots up in what, a day and a half?
You could back up your whole hard drive on a floppy diskette
You're the biggest joke on the internet
Your database is a disaster
You're waxin' your modem tryin' to make it go faster
Hey fella, I bet you're still livin' in your parents' cellar
Downloadin' pictures of Sarah Michelle Gellar
And postin "Me too!" like some brain-dead AOL-er
I should do the world a favor and cap you like Old Yeller
You're just about as useless as jpegs to Helen Keller
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
Now, what y'all wanna do?
Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers
Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers?
9 to 5, chillin at Hewlett Packard?
Uh, uh, loggin' in now
Wanna run wit my crew, hah?
Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?
They call me the king of the spreadsheets
Got em all printed out on my bedsheets
My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box
You say you've had your desktop for over a week?
Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique!
Your laptop is a month old? Well, that's great
If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight
My digital media is write-protected
Every file inspected, no viruses detected
I beta tested every operating system
Gave props to some, and others? I dissed 'em
While your computer's crashin', mine's multitaskin'
It does all my work without me even askin'
Got a flat-screen monitor, 40" wide
I believe that yours says "Etch-A-Sketch" on the side
In a 32-bit world, you're a 2-bit user
You've got your own newsgroup, alt.total-loser
Your mother board melts when you try to send a fax
Where'd you get your CPU, in a box of Cracker Jacks?
Play me online? Well, you know that I'll beat you
If I ever meet you I'll control-alt-delete you
What?
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
It's all about the Pentiums!
What y'all wanna do?
Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers
Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers?
9 to 5, chillin' at Hewlett Packard?
What??
rap.1226brka,
-> #1211, mango
> Gde se u Beogradu mogu kupiti rap diskovi? Pre je
> bio solidan izbor u Music Hole-u, ali je ta
> prodavnica (koliko ja znam) zatvorena?
Prakticno - Nigde...
Teorijski - Neke komercijalnije diskove mozes naci na
vecini standova kod SKC-a, dok kod Bakica
na standu povremeno, tj. otprilike na
svakih 6 meseci ;(, dodje nesto...
Proveravaj redovno i raspituj se u Hi-Fi
shopu - ulaz kod SKC-a... dobiju i oni
ponekad nesto. Trenutno se renoviraju,
pa ces morati da pricekas...
Vredi svratiti i na berzu nedeljom u
maloj sali SKC-a... iznesu ljudi ponekad
i OK stvari...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1227brka,
(MALO STARIJE) VESTI...
. The dope Wu-Tang dedicated website, 1 Million Strong will be shutting
down on Sunday.
. After issuing a warrant for his arrest, Denver police have decided
that they do not have enough evidence to charge DMX for allegedly
stabbing 24 year old Nicholas James.
. DMX has been arrested under charges that he assulted a man in
Yonkers this week. After the arrest, it turns out he was wanted
in Denver for a stabbing. D claims he didn't even know about
being wanted in Denver.
. Ruffhouse Records will be shutting down after 13 years. The CEO
Chris Swartz and Pres. Joe Nicolo have split to persue their own
personal goals. Acts signed to Ruffhouse such as The Fugees,
Cypress Hill, and Lauryn Hill will be absorbed by the Sony/Columbia
label.
. Ja Rule has apparantly landed a movie role on Pras' new movie
Ghetto Supastar which is based on his book. If Ja acts as good as
he raps, I'll definately stay away from that.
. Rapper/Skitzophrenic Kool Keith will be releasing an album
called Robbie Analog, an apparant parody of RZA's Bobby Digital
album.
. Jay-Z says he will be releasing a new album before the end of the
year. As of now, it is untitled. This will be his 4th album in
3 years (5, if you count 'Streets is Watching').
. The Roots will release an EP this summer featuring songs that
didn't make the album. It will also feature a remix of "You Got Me".
. Slick Rick and Doug E. Fresh are collaborating on a track for
Ricks upcoming release "Da Art Of Storytellin'". The song will
be titled "The Show Pt. II"
. On Monday, Ol' Dirty Bastard was dismissed of the charges of
terroristic threats. The charges were dropped after his
ex-girlfriend's testimony was differed from her initial statement.
. Ma$e has released a statement that after his album "Double Up" is
released on June 15, he will leave the music buisness. The reason
for this is he has found God. I don't know if this is a publicity
stunt or what, but if he does leave, it won't bother me any.
. The unsolved case of the murder of The Notorious B.I.G. might be
close to being solved. Guess who it involves.... Yep Suge Knight.
Police carried out search warrants on 4 locations owned by Knight.
The seized a Chevrolet Impala, which is the same car that
witnesses reported the shots coming from. Hopefully they find the
truth.
rap.1228brka,
JOS JEDNA BIOGRAFIJA KRS_ONE-A (I B.D.P.-JA)
Born Lawrence Parker in Park Slope, Brooklyn in the summer of 1965,
the rapper left home at 14 to play basketball and read books free
of the gaze of the authorities (his mother and the New York City
public school system). He landed in a homeless shelter in the South
Bronx, where he was dubbed Krishna by residents because of his
interest in the Hare Krishna spirituality of some of the
antipoverty workers. By the time Krishna met youth counselor Scott
Sterling, he was also writing graffiti as KRS-One (Knowledge Reigns
Supreme Over Nearly Everyone). Together he and Sterling, a.k.a. DJ
Scott La Rock, created Boogie Down Productions, releasing their
landmark debut album, Criminal Minded, in 1987.
In the summer of 1984, KRS-One hit the music scene with a rap group
called "Scott La rock and the Celebrity Three" with a record called
"Advance". And that was, in a time when most rappers rhymed about
cars, jewelry, alcohol, and the latest dance, KRS-One was rhyming
about nuclear war prevention. Scott La Rock and the Celebrity Three
was comprised of Scott La Rock, Levi167, MC Quality, and KRS-One.
After legal problems with the head of the label, Scott La Rock and
the Celebrity Three were released from their contract. In the winter
of 1984, KRS-One wrote a song called "Stop The Violence" although
by this time The Celebrity Three had broken up and only KRS-One and
Scott La Rock remained. Both realized they had to change the name
of the group and they did: the new group was called The Boogie Down
Crew.
In 1985, Scott La Rock was asked to do an already written and
produced record for Sleeping Bag Records. Of course Kris and Scott
wanted to concentrate on their own Boogie Down Crew but first they
had to go through this. For this project they were paid nothing
and had no rights or claims to anything. It was this project that
educated Kris and Scott as to the importance of being producers of
their music, as well as the artists, so at this point they decided
to change the name of their own Boogie Down Crew to Boogie Down
Productions.
At the close of 1987, the B.D.P lifestyle got real and Scott La
Rock was killed trying to break up a dispute in the Bronx. This
shocked the hip hop communitity and as a result rap and violence
became a topic in the mainstream press. The rap community thought
Boogie Down Productions was over but this only led to new plans
for KRS-One. In 1988, KRS-One left B. Boy Records to sign with
Jive Records and "By All Means Necessary" was released. Rap music
was under a mainstream microscope and KRS-One now was able to
release what he and Scott always dreamed about, an album that gave
rap a different image. His first video on Jive Records was for
"My Philosophy", a song that re-established his presence in the
rap world.
In order to understand KRS-One, it is imperative that you either
understand hip hop as opposed to rap or open your mind to the
reality of what is going on around you. KRS-One is not a bullshit
artist. His career began in 1986 and since then no other rap or
hip hop artist has come close to his consistency with hit albums.
1987, Criminal Minded, 1988, By All Means Necessary, 1989, Ghetto
Music, 1990, Edutainment, 1991, BDP Live Hardcore, 1992, Sex And
Violence, 1993, Return of the Boom Bap, 1995, KRS ONE.
Having lectured at Harvard, Yale, Vassar, Columbia, N.Y.U. and
Stanford, KRS-One is nicknamed "THE TEACHER." There is only one
KRS-One. That's it, that's all, solo, single, no more, no less.
KRS-One has been quoted as saying "This is rebellious music, not
gangster music." KRS-One is beyond rap, he is a manifestation of
hip hop culture. KRS-One is a force in rap so powerful that his
songs are sampled by many artists, giving rise to other hit
records for these artists.
KRS-One, through Boogie Down Productions hasn't been an artist
that jumps on any passing bandwagon. KRS-One stands as a
trendsetter in the hip hop world. He is a producer that
specialized in breaking new ground and new artists. For example,
KRS-One in 1986 introduced the hip hop reggae style to rap music
and things have not been the same since. KRS-One is the first
artist to rap in an "off beat" style, influencing hundreds of
rappers to do the same. KRS-One is responsible for pushing
hip hop culture and rap music to some of its most advanced
levels. He has influenced the reggae market with his work on
the first Shabba Ranks album. He also has done ground breaking
work with R.E.M. With this, as with many other things today
like Ol' Dirty with Mariah Carey and Fugees with Simply Red,
comes criticism from fans of "not keeping it real" but these
fans in the eyes of many "real fans" are just contradicting
those words in that they should like the music for what it is
and should not ctiticise the artists for their work out of
the hip hop industry.
KRS-One also has the best live hip hop show in the world. You
can ask the critics of Japan, England, Denmark, Holland, France,
Germany and Italy. Everywhere KRS-One goes, he packs them in
for an hour long classical hip hop performance. Ask the critics
in America, KRS-One has performed for some of the hardest
audiences to please and left them gasping for air and drenched
with sweat.
After all these projects, KRS ONE is still going strong in 1997.
He can still please the hardcore hip hop fans with tracks like
"The MC", "Can't Stop, Won't Stop and "Step Into A World". Who
knows how long he'll keep going on, one thing we do know is
that KRS ONE is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, names
of all time in hip hop. In his own words in "If you don't know
me by now, I doubt you'll ever know me".
rap.1229brka,
RECENZIJE - > SINGLOVI
"""""""""
THE HIGH & THE MIGHTY FEAT. PHAROAHE MONCH 'Dirty Decibels' (Rawkus)
Mr Eon has few critics, if any. His rough, gravelly voice would
make The Undertaker quiver in his big black boots. So, an equally
beastly guitar loop is the perfect backdrop for him to scorch the
mic. Pharaohe Monch pops up as well on the chorus, not quite as
menacing but still enough to make you want the record.
NOREAGA 'Oh No' (Penalty)
Sorry Nore, but this is your worst track to date. I really enjoyed
'The War Report', was satisfied with 'NORE', but I'm finding this
'Oh No' junk very unconvincing. Each verse is uninteresting, and
the chorus is made up of some people shouting 'oh no'. All I have
left to say is oh no.
ARSONISTS 'Pyromaniax' (Matador)
There's no doubting that the Arsonists are a bit good. In fact,
better than just good. So far everything releases by Q-Unique and
co has been of very high quality, and 'Pyromaniax' is wicked once
again. For these few minutes of glory, the rugged style is dropped
and bounciness takes over. The rhymes are hip-hop's freshwater
stream. If you can't make sense of that, make sense of this - it's
one for your collection.
BIG L 'The Heist' (Fat Beats)
What better way to be cheered up after Big L's tragic murder in
February than to a release a good single by the DITC man himself?
This isn't quite as good as 'Ebonics', but it's still lively, with
L performing a phone conversation similar to something from The
Firm (but without the mafia stuff). You also got a live freestyle,
which is just what was expected of L - energetic, offensive and RAW!
In short, cop it.
NAS FEAT. PUFF DADDY 'Hate Me Now' (Colombia)
Nasir Jones is an exceptional emcee when he wants to be, but when
you team up with the ever-falling Puff Daddy and use part of
Carmina Burana, you're just asking for trouble. The title suggests
that lyrically it's all about people who 'playa hate'. It's getting
a bit overdone now, though. The chorus is terrible, with Puffy
repeating the words 'hate me now'. Some people are treating this
record as an anthem for 99, I'd be more likely to use it as slightly
uncomfortable toilet tissue. 'Nas Is Like' on the other side is much
better.
LOOTPACK 'Whenimondamic' (Stones Throw)
If you haven't heard the Lootpack yet, let me just get you salivating
- they enjoy working with hardcore bods Tha Alkaholiks and Peanut
Butter Wolf. OK, prop up your lower lip and ease the dribble, it's
time to read this review! Madlib's beat is something you can dance
to, but without the hyper-jigginess of Will Smith and Puff Daddy. The
warbling sample perks proceedings up every few seconds, and
Wildchild's lyrics are first rate, cussing wack emcees and
explaining emcee life as a whole. Oh, and I can't leave out DJ Romes
with the tidy background scratching. So, is 'Whenimondamic' any
good? Oh my goodness, yes.
CONSEQUENCE FEAT. SHABAAM SAHDEEQ, MIKE ZOOT & FT 'Nobody'
(Grooveattack)
I'm not going to beat around the bush - this latest track from the
long-time Tribe affiliate is superb. Some artists try to be
'overinventive', and the end track can be weak, but 'Nobody' is
mighty in its own simple way. Nick Wiz's beat is good and solid,
and the three guests lay down incredible raps just as expected.
One of the best singles out at the moment.
DJ SPINNA 'Rock' (Rawkus)
Who can knock the man DJ Spinna? As well as being a member of the
hugely talented Polyrhythm Addicts, he can also hold it down for
himself rather well. This latest track 'Rock' sees Spinna upping
the bpm to a speedy rate, while digging out samples from Ralph
McDonald and Kool & The Gang. Each little sound and beat works
well. At first I wasn't quite sure what to make of this single,
but I'm now a convert.
UGLY DUCKLING 'Now Who's Laughin' (Bad Magic)
There's nothing ugly here, that's for sure. If you haven't
heard Ugly Duckling yet, pick up this follow up to last year's
'Fresh Mode' and recognise that the trio have skills by the
bucketload. Young Einstein's production on 'Now Who's Laughin'
is not too complex - just a few piano loops and whatever. But
the piano sounds good, and works well when placed alongside
effortless rhyming. Sooner or later you'll be singing along to
the catchy chorus.
COMMON 'One-Nine-Nine-Nine' (Rawkus)
'Soundbombing II' should be out in the shops soon, and this
is a cut from the compilation. Produced by Hi-Tek,
'One-Nine-Nine-Nine' drifts along nicely with Common and Sadat X
putting down their rhymes. The flipside 'Like They Used To Say'
is better. Here, it's Dug Infinite laying down a bouncy tune for
the sensible spitting, and then every so often Mase (De La Soul)
scratches about samples from old tracks such as Audio Two's
'Top Billin' and Big Daddy Kane's 'No Half Steppin'.
2PAC 'Changes'
Where on earth did they get this one from? It wouldn't sound out
of place on an effing boring bank advert or something. I am
definitely not a fan of this. Why are these labels releasing
2Pac material which is, quite frankly, a load of rubbish. Let
him rest, instead of constantly tarnishing his name and rep.
J-LIVE 'School's In' (Payday)
Just as we'd hoped, 'School's In' is more goodness from the
ex-Raw Shack emcee. In fact, we've heard this was recorded
months ago so maybe you're already up on it. The chorus has
tasteful samples scratched all over, and then it's back to
the Live one to rhyme over production which is very Gang
Starr-esque.. Hopefully J-Live's
upcoming album will follow the same level as this.
NAS 'Nas Is Like' (Columbia)
To be frank, it looks like Nas will never record an album quite
as breathtaking as 'Illmatic' ever again. But that does not
mean he is poor or anything like that. His lyrics may have
been watered-down ever since that album, but his flow still
outshines a lot of pretenders out there. This new track from
the forthcoming third album is quite good really. Mr Jones
delivers the goods over steady production.
DEFARI 'Likwit Connection' (Tommy Boy)
So, Defari has upped sticks from the independent ABB label
and moved to Tommy Boy, along with several other underground
artists. 'Likwit Connection' is produced by E-Swift, with Tha
Alkaholiks and Phil Da Agony's rhymes slotting in well with
the beat. The flip 'Keep It On The Rise' is a more moody
piece of hip-hop and produced by Evidence. Both tracks are
good, so this is worth purchasing on your next vinyl venture.
rap.1230brka,
RECENZIJE - > ALBUMI
"""""""""
ROB SWIFT 'The Ablist' (Asphodel)
'X-Pressions' by the X-Ecutioners was one of 1998's best albums,
so getting our hands on this debut album from group member Rob
Swift was a job we were prepared to do. After listening to it,
we can say that it is quite different to last time round. For
example, Rob hooks up with live band Dujeous on 'Modern Day
Music' for a horn-filled composition, and 'Fusion Beats' is a
mellow melody livened up with Rob's 'turntablised' beat-making.
Mr Swift even raps a bit himself on 'I'm Leaving'. It seems
as though the DJ is attempting something different. This
assumption makes rehashs of 'Turntablist Anthem' (albeit with
new Pharaohe Monch lyrics) and 'Musica Negra' quite ironic.
There is still room for great new tracks, including the rock
hard 'What Would You Do' and 'All That Scratching Is Making
Me Rich', laced with guitars and brass. Overall, 'The Ablist'
does not try to better the previous LP as such, it is just
like one of its track titles - 'Something Different'.
You can read another review of 'The Ablist' written by Hip-Hop
Domain at www.undergroundhiphop.com.
DEFARI 'Focused Daily' (Tommy Boy)
The amount of quality LPs coming from the west coast is
staggering. It seems that every month you hear accomplished
rap from that area, or maybe hear about a new mouth-watering
project set to storm the hip-hop world. Up step Defari Herut,
another westside warrior (?!?) with a bulging bag of skills.
'Focused Daily' is not quite as amazing as we'd hoped, but by
the same token it is not a slump of epic proportions. One
thing Defari has got right is the choice of producers - E-Swift,
Evidence and The Alchemist are all first-rate hip-hoppers. It
just seems a pity that it is the singles which seem to be the
best bits of this album - 'Bionic', 'People's Choice', 'Likwit
Connection' and 'Never Lose Touch' all sticking in the mind.
'Lowlands Anthem' offers nothing original and 'No Clue' is
just not very good. Overall, it's hard to make a decision about
this album. It's more something you would record off your mate
then go and spend your money on.
MOUNTAIN BROTHERS 'Self: Volume 1' (MB)
Think The Roots, Tribe and maybe a dash of Common and you've
got the Mountain Brothers. Self: Volume 1', the debut LP
from Peril L, Styles and Chops, oozes quality. It's innocent
simplicity is just so likeable. They do not need any guests
emcees or producers on here, they can do it all themselves...
and they can do it well. The lyrics cover amusing topics,
such as getting up late, being constipated and even Weight
Watchers. Another thing to say is that there are no loops
or things like that, Chops plays all the instruments with
consistent quality. It's sample free hip-hop, and it's very
good listening. 'Fluids' discusses our need to drink and
'Turntable Mathematics' is vibey with the electric organs,
while 'Love Poetry' hilariously flatters a girl by stating
'if you were a do-do, I would be your stink'. And there's
also the magnum opus 'Paperchase', which is just too darn
good to explain through writing. So go on, treat yourself,
buy a copy of 'Self'.
STYLES OF BEYOND '2000 Fold' (Bilawn)
If you don't know of Styles Of Beyond, it's hardly surprising.
They haven't created explosions in the hip-hop industry,
they've just seemingly crept up and dropped this LP '2000
Fold'. Consisting of Takbir and Ryu, SOB overcome a tricky
obstacle by making original music. DJ Rhettmatic of the
Beat Junkies lends a hand on 'Style Warz', and the
piano-driven 'Hollograms' swiftly follows, featuring a nice
verse from Space Boy Boogie X. The two stand out cuts from
'2000 Fold' are the single 'Killer Instinct' with Divine
Styler and the brilliant 'Spies Like Us'. The title of the
latter gives an idea of what it's like - a story told over
atmospheric production. 'Winnekta Exit' is delightfully
groovy too. The dexterity of DJ Revolution is found on 'Many
Styles', which seems like an ode to the guy. Styles have
also found space to have an outstanding 'Exile' intro and
a quick beatbox interlude from Click Tha Supah Latin.
But, despite all these positive aspects, '2000 Fold' is
likely to be overlooked by so many people. Be in touch
and support the crew, cause they are worthy.
PEANUT BUTTER WOLF 'My Vinyl Weighs A Ton' (Stones Throw)
Lengthy albums can sometimes be below par. 'Wu-Tang Forever'
was a bit patchy, and Biggie's 'Life After Death' contained
too many filler cuts. But now, here is a 24-track
masterpiece from Bay Area producer/DJ wonder Peanut Butter
Wolf. We had high hopes for this album, and it does not
disappoint one bit. The Wolf just provides all the beats,
and invites a top-notch set of guests to contribute their
things. The opener 'In Your Area' features the lyrical
tightness of Planet Asia, as does the solid 'Definition Of
Ill'. Dave Dub does well on 'Necromancin', suiting the
casual backing. DJ Babu of the Beat Junkies gives us an
entertaining scratch track with 'Casio', and DJ fanatics
should also check out the eight minute masterpiece that
is 'Tale Of Five Cities'. There's eleven turntablists all
on that track and it's fabulous. The skits are also well
done, especially 'Top Illin', a copy of Audio Two's 'Top
Billin'. That's just some of the reasons why 'My Vinyl
Weighs A Ton' stands as the first essential purchase of
1999. You have to get it.
rap.1234gligo,
-> #1229, brka> NAS FEAT. PUFF DADDY 'Hate Me Now' (Colombia)
> repeating the words 'hate me now'. Some people are treating
> this record as an anthem for 99, I'd be more likely to use it
> as slightly uncomfortable toilet tissue. 'Nas Is Like' on the
> other side is much
> 2PAC 'Changes'
> Where on earth did they get this one from? It wouldn't sound
> out of place on an effing boring bank advert or something. I am
> definitely not a fan of this. Why are these labels releasing
> 2Pac material which is, quite frankly, a load of rubbish. Let
> him rest, instead of constantly tarnishing his name and rep.
;(
Da se ovakvi kriticari i komentatori pitaju za nesto, rap muzika
a samim tim i crnacka kultura bi nam bila jos vrlo, vrlo daleko, i
duboko u undergroundu.
Cemu ovakvo gnusanje i ako su ove dve stvari malo komercijalnije?
Zar jos neko poput ovakvih kriticara deli i shvata muziku tako?
rap.1235fraudator,
-> #1233, brkae brko, oladi malo
opet tjesh silovati konfu
pa tje da rikne
misim, de si se zapenijo sa ULom??
pusti diskove da dishu
rap.1236brka,
ED LOVER NAPUSTA NY's HOT 97 DA BI SE PONOVO UJEDINIO SA
DOCTOR DREOM I BAKA BOYSIMA U LA-JU
Next time you're in Los Angeles be sure to check out
KKBT 92.3 The Beat' because they're about to be off the
hook. It looks like they have now rounded up Hip Hop's
premier radio duos and added them to their roster.
Veteran morning show host Ed Lover has quit Hot 97 in
NY and will be reunited with partner Doctor Dre to do
mornings for KKBT. They will be replacing the popular
House Party which is being shuffled over it's sister
station Mega 100. The Baka Boyz who were rumored to do
mornings may now be headed to do afternoons to replace
the popular Theo. Apparently his ratings have been
dropping to the Baka Boyz when they were going against
him while at Power 106.
If all this falls into place KKBT will have an awesome
line up of Hip Hop's premier radio personalities. The
Baka Boyz, Ed Lover & Doctor Dre and Sway & King Tech
in addition to being mainstays within Hip Hop, were
also among the first Hip Hoppers to do morning drive
radio shows. In addition KKBT has BET's Big Lez,
rap star, The Poetess, former Hip Hop TV host Dominique
Diprima and former KDAY personality Julio G. If that's
not enough former rap star Dorsey Fuller of the now
defunct group O6 Style is The Beat's music director.
All these folks are now all under one roof. Hopefully
they will have free reign to put forth the music that
helped put them all on the map.
rap.1237brka,
AVGUSTOVSKI HUMANITARNI KONCERT CRNIH IZVODJACA USPEO
This past weekend artist like Common, Black Star's Mos Def
and Talib Kweli, Black Thought of the Roots, Fat Joe and
the Terror Squad, DJ Tony Touch, Les Nubians, and even
legendary proto-rap vocalist-poet Gil Scott-Heron descended
upon Bowery Ballroom in New York City for the second annual
Black August benefit concert. This benefit was set to help
the legal and educational campaigns of political prisoners.
It was also designed to to help set the stage for the
upcoming Cuban Rap Festival which is set later on this
month in Havana. Many of the artist on this bill will
appear in Cuba later this month for the 5th Annual Cuban
Rap Festival where they will be joined by other artists
and a cadre of Cuban rappers. The money raised will go
toward building a studio and a public Hip Hop library in
Cuba. The Black August Benefit Concert will also raise
money for the legal and educational campaigns underway
on behalf of the estimated 100 men and women currently
incarcerated within the United States or living in exile
because of their political beliefs. Black August puts
forth the idea that it is not only important for the
hip hop community to be aware of these men and women,
but that we all recognize the link between the rights
of political dissidents - whether living in the
United States or in Cuba - to express their political
beliefs and our own rights to be free from censorship,
police harassment, and governmental control. This year's
concert seeks to firmly connect the Hip Hop generations
of Cuba and The US. There is talk that Sway & Tech may
broadcast the August 27th concert from Havana. I
personally haven't gotten any confirmation on that as
of yet.
rap.1238brka,
FAT JOE I DJ PREMIER & KOOL G RAP...
Fat Joe is definitely the man of the hour. Above and
beyond his successful rapping career, the unofficial
King Of New York has been making some major business
moves within the rap game. As he gets set to release
the Terror Squad album within the next few weeks on his
own Terror Squad records, he has been gobbling up other
Hip Hop talent. By now everyone knows he manages Big
Pun, but now he just inked a deal with DJ Premier of
Gang Starr to do a mixtape compilation lp. It will
probably be something alone the lines of what Sway &
King Tech just did when they dropped their lp 'This
Or That'. For those who don't know, Fat Joe and Premier
go way back when Premier worked on Fat Joe's 1993 debut
lp 'Represent'. If that wasn't enough, Fat Joe picked
up one of Hip Hop's most talented emcees Kool G Rap.
Hopefully under Fat Joe's direction the ultimate
Hip Hop story teller can return to his old prime time
form.
rap.1239brka,
VESTI O MISSY ELLIOTT
I got a note from Missy Elliott's folks about her
upcoming activities... First she'll be performing on
the Tonight Show with Jay Leno this Friday 8/13.
Apparently her new joint 'All N My Grill is blowing
up. She'll also be a presenter during next week's
Source Awards in Los Angeles where she will also do
a special performance with Busta Rhymes. For folks
here on the west coast, Missy Elliott will be dropping
bombs this weekend at KMEL's Allstar Summer Jam on
Saturday at the Shoreline in Mountainview and also at
KKBT's 92.3 The Beat's Summer Jam in LA on Sunday.
Speaking of KMEL Allstar Summer Jam, this 12th annual
concert will feature Puff Daddy, Nas, Outkast, Naughty
By Nature, Q-Tip, The Whoridas, TWDY and Mac Mall. The
show should be off the hook. It'll also be broadcasted
live on the internet so be sure to login at
http://www.106kmel.com
rap.1240brka,
X-CLAN PONOVO POCINJE SA NASTUPIMA
I recently spoke to Paradise of the group X-Clan. He
informed me that after a long hiatus the politically
based group is now back together and set to wreck shop.
As they get set to work on their new lp X-Clan 2000,
they are willing and ready to do some shows and
interviews. If anyone is down to book them or knock
off an interview drop Paradise a line at mailto:
dafoundation@mindspring.com. Also for those who don't
know Paradise is doing some big things over at
MP3.com.. Y'all may wanna definitely hook up with
him on that tip.
rap.1241brka,
HIP HOP WAS ILLEGAL
by KRS-One
Why is it important to know Hip Hop? Most people look
at Hip Hop as music where you have some guy rhyming on
a stage or something. But why is it important to know
Hip Hop or to even be associated with Hip Hop? You will
notice that most knowledge in the world tries to either
relieve human suffering in a philosophical sense, or it
predicts what's going on. Hip Hop is at the heights of
that. Not only does knowing Hip Hop relieve human
suffering, but knowing it or having the sight and
awareness that Hip Hop has, gives you the ability to
predict what's going to happen in the inner cities before
it happens.
For many years various magazine publications have attempted
to document and interpret the forward movement of Hip Hop
from a traditionally objective perspective. This objectivity
although useful in the field of journalism proves poor as a
general method in interpreting the consciousness of Hip Hop
for Hip Hoppers. Between the years of 1988 to 1998, rap
publications of all styles relied on journalist to be
objective when documenting Hip Hop as opposed to being
Hip Hop. Such was their academic training. However, Hip Hop
as with many popular cultures is unique in the sense that
accurately documenting it's culture requires its
interpreters to participate in its expression. This is very
important. If you can't do it, you can't interpret it. What
Hip Hop is going through is that people who have no idea
what it is or how to do it are interpreting for the rest
of the world. Hip Hop has yet to speak for itself. The
journalistic senses toward Hip Hop mirrored the mainstream
senses of Black and Latino youth which are; we are violent
criminals, helpless, hopeless, untrustworthy, dangerous to
be around but nonetheless great entertainment.
What they interpreted as Hip Hop was really emceeing which
they later labeled 'rap'. Breaking' was labeled 'break
dancing'. Pieces, burning, bombing and tagging' were all
lumped together as graffiti art. Early Hip Hop owned no
monthly publication, video countdown or Saturday night
master mix. In it's early days it could not interpret
itself for itself and those with the resources to
interpret it did so with no interest in Hip Hop's creative
intelligence. In other words, no one asked 'How do you
develop the language you're speaking?' All most journalist
wanted to know was 'Yo man, how are you getting so much
money doing that?'
Keep in mind, in the early days, Hip Hop was illegal.
When I started, I started as a graffiti artist and it
was illegal. Rap music was illegal. It started off at
block parties and became more sophisticated as the years
went on, mainly because of the aggression Hip Hop was
facing early on. These early parties were done out in
places in the Bronx like 123 Park or Cedar Park. These
were the early areas where an emcee and deejay dual
would come out and plug into the street light. That
instantly made it illegal. But more so then that,
when we started rhyming and a deejay started
'cutting' (records), this weird and unusual noise
out in the parks began to aggravate people.
Shockingly enough it didn't aggravate the police, it
aggravated our parents. THE FIRST OPPRESSORS OF
HIP HOP WERE OUR PARENTS!
Early Hip Hop starts in a small Black and Latino community
where the older Black and Latino generations says 'No.
That's not the representation of Black people or of Latino
people. This is something you kids ain't supposed to be
doing and on top of that you can't make a living with
that'. They would insist that we go to school, go to army
or go to college. But a few Hip Hoppers said 'No we believe
in this'. This is why we pay respect to the past. Kool
Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash... These are the
seminal figures in Hip Hop culture. Not just rap music but
in the whole culture of Hip Hop which includes the thinking,
the dress, the language-the whole thing. This is why we
pay them respect because when they were doing it, it was
illegal. They could've said 'Yo man I'm not going to jail
for this'. Instead they said 'I believe in this'. Or they
said 'We believe in ourselves so much that we're gonna
keep doing this'. These people in this society, doing
their own things, feeling this vibe started to make the
society act a certain way around them.
From 1970 to 1978 Hip Hop was just up in the Bronx. It was
only practiced in the Bronx and the only way you could get
to hear it was if you got a tape from one of those parties
in the Bronx. Somewhere around '78 or '79, Hip Hop left
the Bronx and exploded all over New York. And from there
you get a guy named Grandmaster Caz who's from the Bronx
who wrote a song which turned out to be 'Rapper's Delight'
When Sugar Hill Records put out 'Rapper's Delight', Hip Hop
wasn't illegal anymore. That's the significance of Rapper's
Delight.
In 1979 when Rapper's Delight sold 2 million records, all
of a sudden Hip Hop wasn't illegal anymore. As a matter of
fact us graffiti artist started getting paid to do graffiti.
All of a sudden the bodegas (corner grocery stores) would
come to us and say 'Do a mural on the side of our store to
advertise our stuff'. We said 'Cool, we love doing this
stuff anyway. Plus you're gonna give us two hundred dollars
for this? Come on let's make this happen.'
So we get out there and start doing our thing. This was in
1979. Ten years later in 1989 there are graffiti art
galleries. I already explained emceeing. But still even
though white America was saying 'Yo what's that? ' Or
'Wow did you see that?' Black America was going 'Don't
do that!' 'Don't say that'. Don't dress like that' and
Don't talk like that'. So we Hip Hoppers were faced with
a whole new dilemma. The white man was no longer the enemy.
Why?.....
Excerpt from KRS-One's Putting The Coat On For Hip Hop..
reprinted with permission from KRS-One...
rap.1242brka,
RAKIM SE VRACA SA NOVIM ALBUMOM...
Looks like the 'R' [Rakim] is about to make a come back. As we
speak he's hard at work putting the finishing touches to his new
album which is thus far untitled. His first single is a track done
with Lauryn Hill and produced by DJ Premier. Rakim has also
employed the production services of Clark Kent, Ron Lawrence and
T-Love of the Ultramagnetic MCs. Look for the album to drop sometime
in November.
rap.1247brka,
JESSE JACKSON'S HIP HOP SUMMIT: HOCEMO LI IKADA BITI ZAJEDNO?
I just got back from a well attended Rainbow Push Conference which
was held in Chicago this past week. The theme was 'Building Bridges'
which is an important concept to embrace as we head into the New
Millennium. I applaud Reverend Jackson for getting everyone under the
sun, from Vice President Al Gore to Secretary of Labor Alexis Herman
to Kwanza founder Dr Maulana Karenga to discuss a variety of
pertinent issues like School Violence, Gun Policy, Police Brutality
and our connection to Africa to name a few. This year there were a
number of CEOs and business types on hand including the founders of
the FUBU clothing line who were presented with the 'Entrepreneurs Of
The Year Award'. I also applaud Rainbow/Push Staff member Simon Green
who organized the Hip Hop panel, for realizing the important role and
impact Hip Hop has within our community and for trying to bridge a
glaring generation gap. It was indeed quite impressive. However,
where the convention may have built bridges in numerous arenas, it
failed miserably in the world of Hip Hop.
summit.txtrap.1248brka,
-> #1234, gligo
>> NAS FEAT. PUFF DADDY 'Hate Me Now' (Colombia)
>> repeating the words 'hate me now'. Some people are treating
>> this record as an anthem for 99, I'd be more likely to use it
>> as slightly uncomfortable toilet tissue. 'Nas Is Like' on the
>> other side is much
>> 2PAC 'Changes'
>> Where on earth did they get this one from? It wouldn't sound
>> out of place on an effing boring bank advert or something. I am
>> definitely not a fan of this. Why are these labels releasing
>> 2Pac material which is, quite frankly, a load of rubbish. Let
>> him rest, instead of constantly tarnishing his name and rep.
> ;(
> Da se ovakvi kriticari i komentatori pitaju za nesto, rap
> muzika a samim tim i crnacka kultura bi nam bila jos vrlo,
> vrlo daleko, i duboko u undergroundu.
> Cemu ovakvo gnusanje i ako su ove dve stvari malo
> komercijalnije? Zar jos neko poput ovakvih kriticara deli
> i shvata muziku tako?
Nije stvar u tome sto su ove dve pesme "malo komercijalnije".
Npr. KRS je poslednji svoj album 'I Got Next' prodao u
platinastom tirazu, ali nema nikakve veze sa tipom
komercijalnosti koji ima Puffy... Da, ja bih voleo da
je hip hop muzika ostala u undergroundu, ali prvenstveno
mislim na tematski underground... znaci, socijalni,
angazovani tekstovi, etc. Znaci, da ljudi rade ono
sto su radili i pre prvog platinastog tiraza...
Npr. Puffy u svom singlu 'PE 2000' na prozivke kako samo
radi obrade, kako je previse komercijalan, etc. - odgovara
pesmom koja je i sama obrada (Public Enemy - PE No.1)!
Ista je stvar i sa pesmom 'Hate Me Now' - za instrumental
je uzeta vec izvakana 'Carmina Burana'...
Znaci, pitanje je da li zelis od hip hop-a da te pokrene
da igras ('Puff Daddy's gonna make you dance'), ili zelis
da nesto prvenstveno cujes ('One Day It'll All Make Sense'
(c) Common), sto i jeste odlika koja je u ovoj crnoj
muzici uvek bila na prvom mestu... druga je stvar sto
u poslednje vreme sve vise pocinje da zaostaje (iako
neki mladi ljudi koji dolaze, npr. Canibus, Eminem...
stavljaju akcenat upravo na recima).
Ne znam da li si slusao prethodni album Rootsa 'Illadelph...',
ali tu ima jedna fantasticna pesma 'What They Do', za koju
je uradjen i odlican spot - parodija na novije hip-hop
spotove u kojima se pojavljuju besna kola, gole devojke,
case sa sampanjcem... ako je nisi cuo obavezno je poslusaj.
A kada je njegov komentar na Pacov singl u pitanju,
uglavnom se sa njim slazem... Ako jos jednom pazljivo
procitas ono sto je covek napisao, videces da on ne
pljuje Shakura... Jednostavno, glupo je objavljivati
stvari koje je on za zivota odbacio kao nedovoljno
dobre, i koje su uglavnom lose ili osrednje... Te
stvari objavljuju ljudi koji su videli da mogu i
od mrtvog pevaca da zarade grne pare. Reci cu ti
podatak da je za sada, posle njegove smrti
objavljeno vise njegovih pesama nego sto ih je on
izbacio za zivota... a sprema se jos mnogo njih.
Npr. U poslednje vreme u USA izlazi mnogo kompilacija
sa razlicitim hip hop izvodjacima na njima - najvecim
slovima stavljaju na reklami 'FEATURING 2(3,4,5...)
UNRELEASED SONGS FROM LEGENDARY TUPAC SHAKUR'...
Po mom misljenju - glupost.
Procitaj KRS-ov tekst koji sam skoro zakacio u Konferenciji,
i procitaces ono sto bih ti i ja rekao.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1249brka,
-> #1235, fraudator
> e brko, oladi malo
> opet tjesh silovati konfu
> pa tje da rikne
> misim, de si se zapenijo sa ULom??
> pusti diskove da dishu
Kako to da se uvek neko buni kada se poveca upload u nekoj
konferenciji, a svi cute kada krene stampedo u temi Devojke
konferencije Forum? ;)
Mislim da ne bi bilo problema ako bi Uprava fajlove iz
poruka brisala svakih mesec dana...
Ali OK... ako vecina ljudi iz konferencije, radi 'dobrobiti
SezamNeta' zeli da prestanem sa slanjem Hip Hop vesti,
slika i Real Audio fajlova - prestacu. Ionako nemam nikakve
koristi od slanja svega toga u Conf... ;( Jedini cilj mi je
bio da sto vise ljudi bude upuceno u aktuelno stanje u
kom se nalazi hip hop danas.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1250ruby.rod,
-> #1248, brka=> angazovani tekstovi, etc. Znaci, da ljudi rade ono
=> sto su radili i pre prvog platinastog tiraza...
Koji je prvi rap album koji je prodat u platinastom tiražu?
Koliko ja znam prvi zlatni tiraž je postigao Kurtis Blow,
i to još 1981. godine sa albumom These Are The Breaks.
rap.1251gligo,
-> #1235, fraudator> e brko, oladi malo
> opet tjesh silovati konfu
> pa tje da rikne
> misim, de si se zapenijo sa ULom??
> pusti diskove da dishu
Jedini koji ovde siluje, peni i gusi, si ti.
Zato, sevaj. ;)
rap.1252fraudator,
-> #1251, gligoe, nemo da je*esh govna puno
ovo mi je bio prvi put da se javim u ovu konfu
seljaq
rap.1253brka,
DANYEL SMITH NAPUSTA CASOPIS VIBE...
Bad News and Good News for Danyel Smith who is now the 'former'
editor at Vibe Magazine. Unlike some of her fellow Hip Hop editors
i.e Jesse Washington [Blaze] , Sheena Lester [XXL], Keith
Clinkscale [Vibe], she won't be leaving in a storm of controversy.
In fact Ms Smith has landed a new gig with Time Magazine. Does
this mean we'll see more Hip Hop within the pages of the nation's
most respected news magazine? In any case props to Danyel. Now
let's see what happenes with Vibe.
rap.1254brka,
JERMAINE DUPRI OTVARA SPORTSKU MENADZMENTSKU KOMPANIJU
Congratulations are in order for Jermaine Dupris. He's borrowing
a page from Master P by opening up his own sports management
company. Damn! JD has come a long ways. I remember when he used
to dance for Whodini, now look at the young brotha! In any case,
his new agency is called 'Def Sports Management Company'. JD has
joined forces with Premier Sports Management and thus far he has
a roster of 15 athletes including Green Bay Packer running back
Dorsey Levens, Indianapolis Colts cornerback Tyrone Poole and
Pittsburg Steelers saftey Lethon Flowers to name a few.
Jermaine Dupris joins an increasing growing list of rap stars
who have made it a point to open up other businesses aside from
rapping. It appears that many artists are coming to understand
the importance of having something to fall back on. Hopefully
JD's management skills which have netted him so much success
with his record company, will translate over onto the sports
arena.
rap.1255brka,
POVRATAK MC HAMMER-A
This past weekend marked the 12th annual KMEL Allstar Summer
Jam. Hip Hoppers like Nas, Missy Elliott, Q-Tip, Busta Rhymes,
Outkast, Mac Mall, TWDY, The Whoridas, Naughty By Nature, Puff
Daddy and MC Hammer. Almost all the acts dropped bombs. Nas had
the capacity crowd of 22 thousand on their fight during his
entire set. Folks just lost it when he brought Puffy on stage
to perform 'Hate Me Now'. Outkast did an excellent job
headlining. During their after show interview, they made it
clear that they were the originators of the phrase 'Hootie
Hoo'. I like Master P but some of his biting can be a bit
blatant.. Who do you think he'll bite from next?
While everyone did their best to throw down, the man of the hour
was MC Hammer. Lately the man has been making major moves. He has
a new album ready to drop. We've been playing a couple of tracks
off it already. He just landed a job as a sports commentator for
local talk station KGO. He does the pre-game announcements for
the SF 49ers. His first bit was this past Thursday and I will
have to be honest, Hammer sounded really good and refreshing.
On a side note, I'm a bit puzzl htomach
doing 49er commentaries when he's die hard Oakland Raider fan.
Everyone here in the Bay knows you can't hang with both teams.
It's either one or the other. But that's another story.
Anyway, during his set at Allstar Summer Jam, Hammer absolutely
turned the place upside down. From the moment he hit the
stage he had the place rocking. He started off with a couple of
his new songs to warm up the crowd and then he launched into his
classic jams like ' Let's Get It Started', 'Its All Good',
'2 Legit To Quit', and Can't Touch This'. The crowd went
bananas. So hyped was Hammer's show, that Mr Sean Puffy Combs
emerged from his dressing room and stood on the side lines to
'peep game'. I don't care what anyone says.. Puffy is the Hammer
of the late 90s. It was a remarkable comeback for MC Hammer.
rap.1256brka,
SWAY I KING TECH SLAVE DEVETOGODISNJICU SVOJE EMISIJE
September 2 is the day all headz wanna mark down on their
calenders. The world famous Sway & King Tech Wake Up Show will
be celebrating their 9th anniversary. A star studded concert
for all ages will take place at Valley Racido Country Club in LA.
Some of the confirmed performers include Rahzel and Inspector
Deck. No doubt many others will be added to the bill when you
consider the type of pull Sway & Tech have in this industry.
There will be a 5 thousand dollar emcee battle between Super
Natural and Juice. That should be off the hook.
rap.1257brka,
HAWAII DOBILI HIP HOP RADIO EMISIJU
Congratulations to 'East-808' out of Hawaii. Him and his
partner have just launched a new Hip Hop show on commercial
radio giant I-94 [KIKI 93.9 FM]. Entitled Mind Tactics, this
Hawaiian Hip Hop crew did their first show this weekend where
they blessed the island paradise with simmering joints from
Memphis Bleek, Common, High & Mighty, Dilated Peoples and KRS
to name a few. They want all respective record labels and
artists to know that they're about to set things off in the
Aloha State and thus if you have some records that need to
be played they want you to reach out. Hit them up at
suya@lava.net .
rap.1258brka,
CHUCK D ZELI VASU MUZIKU
Another person making some big news is Public Enemy's Chuck D.
He dropped me an email the other day requesting music for a
new project he's getting set to launch.. Here's the notice he
asked me to pass around..
[Chuck D writes..]
"Come one, come all to the digital download ball. At Rapstation,
our goal is to empower artist, so they can break free from the
Matrix. The internet will change the record industry as we know
it today.
The average contract a record company offers an artist is
anywhere between 8% to 13%. Internet deals will change the
dynamics by offering true partnerships. Artist will truly be
able to get 30%, 40% or even 50 % deals, with the artist sharing
in the ownership of the masters or even owning their masters.
The internet will force the industry to make monumental changes.
We want to provide artists with valuable information about the
record industry and how this new technology can enable you to
connect with a Rap and Hip Hop audience that is under served.
We will break down the wall of silence and provide a forum
through our message boards where artist can share and speak
about their concerns. Rapstation is opening new levels of
access and communication.
The revolution has started, if you want to be down, join us.
Rapstation.com is coming soon with a Rap and Hip Hop MP3 area
for independent and unsigned artist.
Send your CD or DAT to Artist RS MP3 @ Rapstation.com
16 W. 19th Street, New York, New York 10011. Remember don't
send your only copy because Rapstation cannot send them back.
Remember only send music that you want to get out on the world
wide web."
CHUCK D
rap.1259brka,
PUFFY NAPUSTIO RADIO STANICU U TOKU INTERVJUA...
Sean Puffy Combs aka Puff Daddy aka P-Diddy ran into some slight
problems this weekend when he visited the Bay Area to promote his
new lp 'Forever' Here's a letter from a regular reader breaking
down what happened...
{MsShonda...writes}
"Just when the PhD holders had ceased fire on Puffy, the unexpected
occurred here in the Bay Area. This morning on local station
Wild 94.9, dj JV asked Puffy about his thoughts on how you don't
see west coast rappers on the nationwide circuit like MTV or Hot97
(in NY). Well, that question just set it off. Puffy initially
(although obviously annoyed) tried to brush it off with the fact
that he doesn't run MTV or Hot97 and has no control over their
play list. Apparently the more he thought about it the more it
angered him. Over and over JV (the dj) tried to explain that he
realized that Puffy wasn't responsible, but he wanted his opinion
on the subject. During the break (they replayed later), Puff began
insulting the dj by calling him a "clown". That was the end of the
interview and JV (along with other radio personalities) said Puff
Daddy got up and left after cursing the dj out and according to the
staff threatening him. Maybe anger management classes are needed???
MsShonda...
Now most of this true but here's the other side of the story. I
spoke with Puff and his people and he maintains that there were no
threats ever made. He was indeed annoyed with the radio jocks who
he felt were attempting get a cheap rise out of him by some how
implying that he was the reason more Bay Area artist weren't
getting nationwide love. The attacks on him were totally unfair
and off color. What really set things off was the fact that Puffy
had visited our radio station prior to coming to KYLD which is
the number #1 station in the market. Their morning show decided
to take some live callers on air and one of their listeners gave
Puffy a lot of love and told him that she would be attending KMEL
Allstar Jam concert to see him perform. This got the KYLD deejays
pissed who then turned around and started badgering Puff about
the East/West coast conflict. The conversation as I heard it
tried to paint a picture as if Puffy was the reason West Coast
artist weren't getting played on MTV and Hot 97 in NY. It wasn't
until Puff got annoyed that the KYLD jocks began to 'cleanup'
and re-clarify their statements. The conversation was totally
ridiculous and in many ways irresponsible when you consider all
the drama that has taken place over the past couple of years.
There are still a lot of people who see Bad Boy as somehow
responsible for 2Pac's death and hence Bad Boy artist have to
always take special precautions when comeing to The West Coast
especially Cali. Rather then engage in anymore downhill
conversation, Puff got up and left the studio. The KYLD deejays
then came back and maintained that they were trying to represent
West Coast artists and that Puffy had threatened to 'kick their
asses'. The whole scenario seemed like a publicity stunt which
would be in line with the type of things KYLD is known for doing.
Puff gets props for rolling through the Bay Area and attempting
to promote his new lp 'Forever'. He been attempting to to 'keep
it real' by making himself accessible. He's been making public
appearances and unannounced calls to local mix show djs to both
thank them and talk to them about music. He also got busy on
stage with Nas during this weekend's Allstar Summer Jam and
ripped the song 'Hate Me Now'. His new lp is pretty cool as he
has tracks with Jay-Z, Lil Kim & Biggie, Redman,Cee-Lo of the
Goodie Mob, Sauce Money, Busta Rhymes and R.Kelly. The R.Kelly
song was interesting and will raise quite a few eyebrows due to
the fact that it samples from the popular song 'I Got Five On It'
by the Luniz. I will admit I was a little taken back when I
heard the song due to the blatant 'bite', however, Puff noted
privately that he was trying to get a hold of the Luniz for
something special. No doubt it has something to do with this
new song. Perhaps the Luniz will be in the video or added to
on a remix... We'll have to wait and see.
Lastly Puff mentioned that he just launched his new website
http://www.puffdaddy.com . He noted that he ran into problems
obtaining his name due to the fact that some unscrupulous person
brought his domain name and later wanted to sell it back. That
seems to be the new hustle these days.. find a superstar or
celebrity and buy up their website name and make them buy it
back.. This recently happened to SF Mayor Willie Brown. One of
his political opponents brought up the domain name
'williebrown.com and 'damayor.com' name.. This also happened to
Sway & King Tech for the Wake Up Show. Folks beware-protect your
domain names.
rap.1260brka,
ISTINA BOLI
There's a lot of noise and controversy brewing over a record that
has just come out by New Jersey based rapper LP. It's called 'The
Truth', and here LP rips into just about every major rap star
that's on the map. He starts out by rapping about Ice Cube and
his Westside Connection. He notes that they should be on the WB.
He comes back and rips into E-40 by saying his style is so
annoying he needs to be smacked. He calls DMX 'big headed' and
Foxy Brown a man. He talks about Snoop and how skinny he is...
He tells Noreaga that he sounds much better without Capone. The
lyrical assault continues with LP screaming on Cam'ron and how
wack he's become. He talks about how Charli Baltimore 'sucks...
No really you suck!'. The chorus chirps 'If Your Wack Your
Wack-If You Suck You Suck-The Truth Hurts'. Now there's no doubt
this is a gimmick type song that's in line with the blazing new
joint by rap star 50 Cent entitled 'How To Rob An Industry Nigga'.
Here 50 Cent does a humorous song in which he fantasizes about
running up and bucking down all of today's rap stars..
The LP record has caused a sea of controversy. Here on the West
Coast folks don't take to lightly to dis records. While many may
see the LP cut as a battle record, others are taking it personal.
For example, LP's remarks about E-40 and Snoop prompted folks to
call the station and issue threats. What's ironic, is both E-40
and Snoop have been in lyrical battles and have never shied away
from such challenges. I personally thought the record was funny..
Peep for it because it will likely show up in your mail box real
soon. Just don't expect LP to do any record signings any time soon.
rap.1261brka,
HIP HOP KUCA SLAVNIH
With Hip Hop celebrating it's 20 year anniversary, everyone is
scrambling to document and archive things. For example, Cleveland's
Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is set to host a conference around Sept
10-12th as they will open up an exhibit and get the ball rolling to
acknowledge and eventually admit rappers into the Hall Of Fame.
Since you have to wait 25 years from the release of your first album,
it may take some time for some artists to get placed. The Cleveland
conference will feature Chuck D and KRS-One giving key note speeches.
Meanwhile back in Mount Vernon New York which was home to Puff Daddy
and Heavy D, Mayor Ernest Davis is set to turn an abandoned firehouse
into a Hip Hop Hall Of Fame..The Mayor has already gotten a 50
thousand dollar grant to get the ball rolling. He plans to open the
museum in the heart of the city's toughest neighborhood as part of
his urban renewal strategy.
Historically speaking, others have laid down crucial groundwork for
a Hip Hop Hall of Fame. Most notable is Media Assassin Harry Allen
who several years ago launched the Rhythm Cultural Institute {RCI}...
Harry went so far as to not only research the whole concept and
methodology behind properly doing a Hall of Fame.. He even moderated
and hosted seminars under the RCI banner. Years before folks were
even up on the whole internet thing, Harry had put out a Hip Hop
newspaper called Rap Dot Com, led a panel discussion during the New
Music Seminar on Music and the Internet. He even recorded a song on
Public Enemy's album called Harry Allen's Super Information Highway.
He was definitely years ahead of the curve and hopefully anyone
planning to do a Hip Hop Hall Of Fame will no doubt contact him for
advice and his assistance..
Finally we took an online poll to see who you would like to see in
the Hall of Fame for my website http://www.daveyd.com The following
people were voted in by you the readers..
AFRIKA BAMBAATAA
DJ KOOL HERC
2PAC SHAKUR
CRAZY LEGS OF ROCKSTEADY CREW
NOTORIOUS BIG
RUSSELL SIMMONS
GRNDMASTER FLASH
SUGAR HILL GANG
rap.1262brka,
BIGGIJEVA MAMA SPONZORISE TURNIR U BASKETU
Voletta Wallace, mother of the late Notorious BIG along with
Bedstuy's Finest Barbershop is putting together the the 2cd annual
'Think BIG Basketball Tournament' in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn. The event
takes place this weekend and will feature performances from acts
like Shyheim, Mad rapper and Lil Cease. Basketball stars like Rod
Strickland and Charles Oakley will also be on hand. We wish
everyone who participates good luck.
rap.1263brka,
ZAPAD JE MESTO NA KOME TREBA BITI OVE NEDELJE
Tonight the entire Hip Hop community will be touching down in
LA for The Source Awards. It will take place at the Pantages
Theater and everyone from Puff Daddy, Master P, Juvenile and Nas
are expected to perform. DMX is looking to take away all the top
honors. The taping is tonight and yours truly will definitely be
in the house. Everyone else can peep out the event on Friday when
it's shown on UPN television. Check your local listings.. The
following day every West Coast Hip Hopper will be escorted to a
secret location for 'A Day In The West'. This is a photo event
that is similar to 'A Great Day In Hip Hop' which was organized
by another West Coast native Sheena Lester.There will also be the
filming for an upcoming documentary. I will be there as well.
Both events along with their respective after parties should be
off the hook. Check back next week for the full 4-1-1.
After the Source Awards and A Day In The West, everyone will be
headed up to Northern Cali and the Bay Area to celebrate KRS-One's
birthday. In case you don't know, KRS has made his new home in
Cali and has just recently opened up a Temple Of Hip Hop chapter
in Oakland. He will be hosting a huge dinner for the Bay Area
deejays and headz and then doing a show at San Francisco's
Maritime Hall this Saturday. Earlier that day he will be giving
a lecture for the Temple at Lowell Middle School in Oakland. The
week will end with a huge gathering of Bay Area artists and
deejays for the second annual Ill Trendz Promotions and The Bay
Area Hip Hop Coalition Barbecue and Picnic in Hayward, California
[Hayward is right outside of Oakland]. This year all those
Bay Area deejays who have been putting it down on radio for
10 years or more will be honored and receive special awards.
That will include Sway & Tech of KMEL, Kevvy Kev of KZSU,
Billy Jam, KK Baby, DJ G and Marcus Clemmons of KPOO, Beni B,
Tamu & Sadiki of KALX and myself, Davey D of KMEL/ KPFA.. Last
year close to 500 people attended the picnic.. This year because
of The Source Awards and KRS's birthday bash the numbers are
expected to be significantly higher.
rap.1264brka,
ZATVARAJU SE HIP HOP KLUBOVI
Blaze.com noted that Tramps Nite club in New York are set to
close their doors on September 24th. There was no reason for
the closing but the owner Steve Weitzman says it will be
permanent. Tramps in case you don't know has been the place
to be for many legendary Hip Hop shows. While New Yorkers are
recovering from this loss, Northern Cali has just lost it's
premier Black owned club Geoffry's Inner Circle. He closed
his doors this weekend and will reopen sometime in 2000 with
a whole new look and feel. Gone will be the nightly dancing.
It will reopen as a show venue designed to house and attract
top notch acts which it already had been doing. So on one
hand it will be good to have a nice show venue and an owner
who isn't afraid to book acts. On the other hand, the lose
of Geoffrey's leaves the Bay Area with only one or two venues
that caters to a Black audience. In addition Geoffrey Pete
the owner has given a large number of up and coming, artists,
promoters and organizations a shot at making some money with
his club. He's was one of the few owners who has successfully
stood up to outside forces which have been relatively
successful in shutting down nite spots that cater to a Black
audience. There's the Oaktree Bar & Grill in Oakland and Riffs
in Milpitas/San Jose. We wish Geoffrey Pete much success. We
hope NY finds another place to take the place of Tramps.
rap.1265brka,
-> #1250, ruby.rod
> Koji je prvi rap album koji je prodat u platinastom tirazu?
> Koliko ja znam prvi zlatni tiraz je postigao Kurtis Blow,
> i to jos 1981. godine sa albumom These Are The Breaks.
Prvi platinasti tiraz u hip hop-u napravila je 1979. godine
Sugar Hill Gang sa albumom 'Rapper's Delight' (prodat u 2
miliona primeraka). Inace, ta pesma je u originalu napisana
od strane Gandmaster Caz-a, i prvo se prodavala na ulici
(na haubama automobila - otprilike nesto slicno kao kod
nas na Bulevaru...), a kasnije su je uradili Sugar Hill
i napravili revoluciju u hip hop muzici. Time je hip hop
izasao iz Bronx-a.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1266brka,
SOURCE AWARDS...
I've always been a firm believer of giving respect where due..
The Source Awards which many of you will see tonight [Fri Aug
20 1999] on UPN gets major props. Let me quote rap star Busta
Rhymes who I ran into today. He spoke passionately about the
fact that for the first time in his illustrious music career
he was treated with respect and 'catered to'. "It felt good to
be treated like a superstar', he said. By that he meant that
he was allowed all the tools and trimmings that he needed to
perform. Busta put on an excellent show, complete with
pyro-technics and all. More importantly, he won an award and
found himself going up against people who truly reflected
todays current Hip Hop scene. Nothing was diluted. This was
a welcome change for a man who has been a part of all sorts
of award shows ranging from The Grammys to the MTV Music
Awards. Ice T shared similar sentiments when he noted that
the only time he got a chance to win some sort of award was
when he did a project with Quincy Jones..
source.arjrap.1267brka,
KRATKE VESTI...
Chuck D of Public Enemy is working on a major project that is
sure to literally flip the script.. Stay close for further
details.. But the man is about to blow up and have a huge
prescence real soon... Trust me..
KRS-One has set up his Temple Of Hip Hop in LA as well as the
Bay Area. He has a bunch of folks representing him including
the Bay Area's Iesha Bilal. Props to her. For those who don't
know, Iesha and her brother Muhammed [MTV's Real World-SF] have
been putting in work for years for Hip Hop. With Iesha hooking
up with KRS things will be quite lovely.. On a side note.. KRS
says he's real happy living in LA.. BET was following him around
when I saw him. He did a under promoted show in Reseda California
with Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. They all got off and show
and proved they still have mad skillz..
Shorty of The Lynch Mob has started his own record label called
Bow Tie Records. His new lp is entitled 'Short Stories' and is
set to drop real soon. He hooked up with a Swedish born producer
named Polar Bear who seems to be the talk of the town in LA right
now. Shortie did some tracks with Kam, James Debarge and up and
coming act Don Silver..
Bad news for Noreaga, Black Rob and Bizzie Bone.. While here
in LA.. Nore gor robbed at gun point for all his jewels. He went
outside his hotel for a smoke and got jacked. This is an
increasing growing trend-to rob rap stars. Wearing jewels is
like wearing the old expensive Corte Field Sheepskin coats like
we did back in the days..Wearing such flashy items make you an
unnecessary target for knucklheads.
Bizzie also got robbed at gunpoinmt from some one fitting the
same description as Nore's assailants..Black Rob broke out of
town when he discovered that his hotel was being surrounded
2Pac's old group The Immortal Outlaws.
WC is putting it down for his new label Affilaited Records with
CJ Mack. His new lp is called 'Ghetto Hiesman' Here he
collaborated with Jermain Dupri, DMX, and Rage
Props to The Poetess aka Felicia for helping put together the
Day In The West. It was truly history in the makng and very
inspiring. Everyone from JJ Fad to YoYo to Rodney O showed up
to downtown LA. It was absolutely incredible..and a bit
overwhelming..I saw all sorts of heads like Tone Loc and The
Boo Yaa Trybe.
rap.1268ruby.rod,
-> #1265, brka=> Prvi platinasti tiraz u hip hop-u napravila je 1979. godine
=> Sugar Hill Gang sa albumom 'Rapper's Delight' (prodat u 2
Te pesme (prve platinaste ;) bi trebalo kačiti ovde... Doduše
tek kada se (ako se) sredi mreža, diskovi i to...
Sam Rapper's Delight bi u mp3 formatu tražio novi hard, budući
da pesma traje 16 minuta. :)
rap.1269ica.z,
-> #1248, brka> A kada je njegov komentar na Pacov singl u pitanju,
> uglavnom se sa njim slazem... Ako jos jednom pazljivo
> procitas ono sto je covek napisao, videces da on ne
> pljuje Shakura... Jednostavno, glupo je objavljivati
> stvari koje je on za zivota odbacio kao nedovoljno
> dobre, i koje su uglavnom lose ili osrednje... Te
> stvari objavljuju ljudi koji su videli da mogu i
> od mrtvog pevaca da zarade grne pare. Reci cu ti
> podatak da je za sada, posle njegove smrti
> objavljeno vise njegovih pesama nego sto ih je on
> izbacio za zivota... a sprema se jos mnogo njih.
poshto sam sigurno jedini ovde koji zna vishe od
50% tupac-ovih tekstova veruj mi na rech da rechi
tupac-ovog singla 'changes' nisu nishta novo...
tekst za ovaj singl je sastavljan od delova tekstova
pesama sa albuma 'R U Still Down? [remeber me]'...
najvishe je teksta uzeto iz pesme 'I Wonder If A Heaven
Got A Ghetto'... ubedljivo najvishe...
tako da mi je bilo malo smeshno kad sam prvi put chuo
'Changes'... nekako mi je sve zvuchalo poznato... ;)
a shto se tiche objavljivanja pesama posle njegove
'smrti' to nije nishta chudno... shto ne uzeti josh
para ako se moze... e sad shto ne ide tupac-u u prilog
to je druga pricha...
btw. koristio sam navodnike u poslednjem pasusu jer
lichno mislim da je chovek suvishe bio pametan da
bi ga tek tako zgovnali i to posle tajsonovog mecha...
a dovoljno je bio pametan da iscenira svoju smrt
kako bi izashao iz igre...
setite se ko je bio Makaveli... sasvim ochigledno...
Ica
rap.1270gligo,
-> #1248, brka> Znaci, pitanje je da li zelis od hip hop-a da te pokrene
> da igras ('Puff Daddy's gonna make you dance'), ili zelis
> da nesto prvenstveno cujes ('One Day It'll All Make Sense'
> (c) Common), sto i jeste odlika koja je u ovoj crnoj
> muzici uvek bila na prvom mestu...
Slazem se, ali kolika je pristupacnost tim drugim likovima?
Koliko su KRS, EPMD, NWA, Rakim, poznati i pristupacni siroj
slusateljskoj publici? Tu je kvaka. Pitaj prosecnog_slusatelja
da li je ikada cuo za Eric B-a, i da li je ikada cuo za Puff Daddya?
Zamisljas li odgovor?
Ono sto hocu da kazem je, da nije bilo likova poput Tupac-a,
Warren G-a, Puff Daddya, Dre-a, Snoop-a itd... i da nije bilo
njihovog osobenog rap-a prilagodjenog odredjenom odnosno
vrlo sirokom spektru slusalaca i publike, veliki deo nas se ne
bi ni zainteresovao za rap kulturu, a samim tim i za neke mnogo
bitnije cinioce poput vec gore spomenutih KRS-a, EPMD-a i os..
Sto se tice samog Puff Daddya, kapiram da je jedna od bitnih
stavki u pravljenju rap stvari originalnost, ali mozda i rimejk
filma moze docarati gledaocu ono sto nije uspeo original, i
mozda ce se to i svideti gledaocu.
U slucaju Puffya, ono _svideti se_, je aksiom. Svaki singl je u
vrhu top lista, svaki album ima platinaste tiraze, njegovi puleni
odnosno zvezde njegove kuce takodje imaju slicne tiraze i...
pronasao je put do svoje publike.
I znam, obrada je ipak obrada, ali ako neko odradi stvari na nacin
da se te obrade prodaju u 5 miliona primeraka, ja ne znam sta da
uradim, osim da coveku skinem kapu.
> A kada je njegov komentar na Pacov singl u pitanju,
> uglavnom se sa njim slazem... Ako jos jednom pazljivo
> procitas ono sto je covek napisao, videces da on ne
> pljuje Shakura... Jednostavno, glupo je objavljivati
> stvari koje je on za zivota odbacio kao nedovoljno
> dobre, i koje su uglavnom lose ili osrednje... Te
> stvari objavljuju ljudi koji su videli da mogu i
> od mrtvog pevaca da zarade grne pare.
Znas kako, nisam ni rekao da pljuje vec ima rezon koji je meni
potpuno nerazumljiv i nelogican. To sto je Tupac odbacio neku
stvar ne znaci da ta stvar nije zasluzila da se objavi.
Pa recimo da je i Ceca Slavkovic odbijala da na svoj album stavi
hit "Dlanom o dlan" dok je na to nisu naterali saradnici i menadzer,
a...prodala je celu plocu zahvaljujuci upravo toj najjacoj stvari. ;)
E, sad, sto se tice Tupac-a i (ne)ovlascenog objavljivanja mnogih
pesama, tu sam skeptican. Ono, zar Afeni Shakur nije osnovala
izdavacku kucu, zar nije dobila spor protiv Death Row-a i konacno,
zar nema mogucnost zabrane objavljivanja pesama pokojnog Tupac-a
od raznih plagijatora i lopova?
Mislim da bi ona bila poslednja koja bi nesto tako dozvolila, a
kompilacije koje se pojavljuju iz dana u dan su verujem, divljacki
nasnimavane i ko zna kako radjene, i zato im ni ne bi pridavao toliku
paznju.
rap.1271gligo,
-> #1252, fraudator> e, nemo da je*esh govna puno
> ovo mi je bio prvi put da se javim u ovu konfu
> seljaq
Pa posto se prvi put javljas u konfu, mogao si da napises nesto
srazmerno svom intelektu, a ne da glumis dusebriznika sistema,
dok u konfi Forum: devojke skidas gole ribe i onanises pred istima,
a u istom se i ne bunis.
rap.1272ruby.rod,
-> #1270, gligo=> Ono sto hocu da kazem je, da nije bilo likova poput Tupac-a,
=> Warren G-a, Puff Daddya, Dre-a, Snoop-a itd... i da nije bilo
=> njihovog osobenog rap-a prilagodjenog odredjenom odnosno
=> vrlo sirokom spektru slusalaca i publike, veliki deo nas se ne
=> bi ni zainteresovao za rap kulturu, a samim tim i za neke mnogo
=> bitnije cinioce poput vec gore spomenutih KRS-a, EPMD-a i os..
Sa druge strane... Ja znam mnogo ljudi koji su nakon slušanja
tih koji su prilagođeni širokom spektru ;) rekli "Ah, kakvo je
ovo đubre!" i apsolutno nisu bili zainteresovani za rap kulturu...
Uopšte ono što se može videti kod nas i u svetu poslednjih godina
je blaćenje ugleda koji je rap polako dizao od 82. do 94. godine...
Najobičnija industrija za mlaćenje para koju prate razni "priti flaj
for a vajt gaj" tipovi...
Popularnost jedne vrste muzike se ne može širiti na duže staze
tako što će se hiperprodukcijom đubreta sve ostalo ugušiti...
rap.1273mango,
-> #1270, gligoSkini onda kapu i Ceci, jer je ona otvorila oci mladoj publici i uputila ih na
blagodeti slusanja Merime Njegomir;>> Ono sto se mnogi usudjuju da svrstaju u
hip-hop je obicno djubre. Zasto se kupuju albumi 2Pac i slicnih? Iz istih
razloga iz kojih se kupuju knjige Roberta Ladlama, gledaju filmovi Pamele
(dobro, ne bas istih;>> Zato jer ne zahtevaju da se u njihovo
slusanje/gledanje/citanje ulozi trud, eto zato. Pola ovih hip-hop grupa su
obicno sranje, treba izvrsiti selekciju u svakom slucaju. Dzabe publicitet
hip-hopu kad je negativan. Ne mislim priotm na sliku droge, oruzja i nasilja
koja se pojavi pred ocima prosecnog roditelja kad cuje rec rap, vec na sam
kvalitet muzike i ono sto ona slusaocu pruza. Hip hop je direktno proistekao
iz tradicije dzeza koji krasi mastovitost, inteligencija, sarm i srce autora/
interpretatora. Koja od ovih osobina krasi 2Pac, BIGa i slicne?
rap.1274gligo,
-> #1269, ica.z> btw. koristio sam navodnike u poslednjem pasusu jer
> lichno mislim da je chovek suvishe bio pametan da
> bi ga tek tako zgovnali i to posle tajsonovog mecha...
> a dovoljno je bio pametan da iscenira svoju smrt
> kako bi izashao iz igre...
> setite se ko je bio Makaveli... sasvim ochigledno...
Suvise komplikovano i neozbiljno da bi bilo istinito.
Sto se tice toga, Scott Gordon, Ouklendski radio DJ,
sto bi se reklo, momak iz stare skole je rekao:
" 'Pac made a deal with the Devil. 'Pac had everything. He got shot
in New York and lived. He talked shit about some of the biggest
motherfuckers in New York and lived. He went to jail, got out on
money that Suge Knight gave up. Cars, gold, girls, women, he
worked with the biggest artist in the country, movies.
He had everything in his hands. And to me, that's something that
Devil gives you. God don't give you all that. Especially, if you sit
there and worship money. Money is not what God gives you, it's
what the Devils gives you."
Zamerio se mnogima, da li Andersonu, suprotnim bandama, Puffyu i
Biggiu ili nekom drugom vise nije ni bitno.
Sto kaze grafit ispod njegovog portreta na jednom od zgrada
juznog L.A.-a: " Live by the gun, die by the gun!".
rap.1275gdown,
-> #1272, ruby.rodGD> Uopste ono sto se moze videti kod nas i u svetu poslednjih
godina
GD> je blacenje ugleda koji je rap polako dizao od 82. do 94.
GD> godine...
U prevodu rap je mrtav,sve ostalo su bedni pokushaji ozhivljavanja
istog.
rap.1276jexy,
Aj nek neka dobra dusa okaci tekstove Cypress Hill-a, prvenstveno mislim na
"I want to get high" (posto nju trenutno jedino i imam :). Sve preko toga cu
docekati za dubokom zahvalnoscu ;)..
rap.1277brka,
-> #1268, ruby.rod
=> Prvi platinasti tiraz u hip hop-u napravila je 1979. godine
=> Sugar Hill Gang sa albumom 'Rapper's Delight' (prodat u 2
> Te pesme (prve platinaste ;) bi trebalo kaciti ovde...
> Doduse tek kada se (ako se) sredi mreza, diskovi i to...
> Sam Rapper's Delight bi u mp3 formatu trazio novi hard,
> buduci da pesma traje 16 minuta. :)
Ne znam, mozda je prva verzija, ili neka druga trajala
16 minuta, ali ova koju ja imam traje "samo" 7...
Tacnije, 7:05:55... :)
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1278brka,
-> #1269, ica.z
> poshto sam sigurno jedini ovde koji zna vishe od
> 50% tupac-ovih tekstova veruj mi na rech da rechi
> tupac-ovog singla 'changes' nisu nishta novo...
Svaka cast na znanju, ali mislim da bi vise naucio
kada bi ucio tekstove KRS-a ili PE-ja ili Commona.
No, dobro... your choice.
> koristio sam navodnike u poslednjem pasusu jer
> lichno mislim da je chovek suvishe bio pametan da
> bi ga tek tako zgovnali i to posle tajsonovog mecha...
> a dovoljno je bio pametan da iscenira svoju smrt
> kako bi izashao iz igre... setite se ko je bio
> Makaveli... sasvim ochigledno...
Da, sasvim ocigledno... :) Sretao sam i na Mrezi
zaludjene Shakurove fanove koji i dalje veruju u
ovu teoriju (koju je inace prvi izneo DJ Red Alert
u svojoj emisiji nekoliko dana posle Pacove smrti,
ali je se i on odrekao nekoliko meseci nakon toga).
Slicna situacija kao i posle Elvisove smrti - neki
i dalje veruju da je on ziv... A ja, ja bih
parafrazirao reci jednog mog cyber_frienda Sly-ja
(underground hip hop producent i vlasnik
globalhiphop.com-a) - 'Let the man rest in peace!'.
Mogao bih da nadjem i posaljem ovde onu cuvenu
sliku sa Shakurove obdukcije, ali opet ce ljudi
koji veruju u 'Makavelijevu teoriju zavere' da
kazu kako je to montaza, ili nesto slicno... So,
svako neka veruje u ono sto hoce...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1279brka,
-> #1270, gligo
> Slazem se, ali kolika je pristupacnost tim drugim likovima?
Relativno OK, cak i ovde kod nas - jedino je pitanje da li
imas dobre volje i zelju da cujes nesto dobro...
Ja sam prvi put u inostranstvo otisao pre dve godine (ne
racunam putovanja u ex_Yu republike i nekoliko putovanja
kojih se kroz maglu secam jer sam imao 4-5 godina), sto
znaci da sam sa (skoro) svakim hip hop izvodjacem dosao u
kontakt ovde... A ako mogu ja zasto ne bi mogao i neko
drugi?
> Ono sto hocu da kazem je, da nije bilo likova poput Tupac-a,
> Warren G-a, Puff Daddya, Dre-a, Snoop-a itd... i da nije
> bilo njihovog osobenog rap-a prilagodjenog odredjenom odnosno
> vrlo sirokom spektru slusalaca i publike, veliki deo nas se
> ne bi ni zainteresovao za rap kulturu, a samim tim i za neke
> mnogo bitnije cinioce poput vec gore spomenutih KRS-a, EPMD-a
> i os..
Hmm... ja sam imao tu srecu da je prvi hip hop album koji
sam kupio bio Public Enemy - 'Apocalipse '91: The Enemy
Strikes Black'. Naravno, kasnije sam slusao i Warren G-ja
(1st album only), Dre-a (1st album only), Snoop-a (1st
album only), dok je moja jedina dodirna tacka sa Puffy-jem
njegova produkcija na albumima Mary J. Blige i jos nekim
singlovima drugih izvodjaca koji nisu u Bad Boy-u...
Verovatno si u pravu... neki su zbog njih poceli da
slusaju hip hop, ali mislim da bi bilo bolje da su
'evoluirali' na visi nivo 'Hrama Hip Hop-a' (c) KRS,
i da su sa tih kasnije presli na neke druge stvari,
po mom misljenju bolje stvari... Verujem da bi im se
svidele.
> Sto se tice samog Puff Daddya, kapiram da je jedna od
> bitnih stavki u pravljenju rap stvari originalnost, ali mozda
> i rimejk filma moze docarati gledaocu ono sto nije uspeo
> original, i mozda ce se to i svideti gledaocu.
Pazi, jedan rimejk je OK... dva mogu da prodju - ali
svaka pesma da bude rimejk?! Sta bi npr. rekao za
reditelja koji je celoga zivota radio rimejke, i
to ne nekih malo poznatih filmova, vec mega hitova?
Zamisljas li odgovor? :)
> I znam, obrada je ipak obrada, ali ako neko odradi stvari
> na nacin da se te obrade prodaju u 5 miliona primeraka,
> ja ne znam sta da uradim, osim da coveku skinem kapu.
Posto sam ja po odabranoj profesiji producent, sa te
tacke gledista mu skidam kapu... to sam govorio i posle
Sourceovog izbora za najboljeg producenta svih vremena
gde je on pobedio. Ako uzmemo za prvi cilj producentskog
posla da se ostvari neki profit, onda je on zaista tu
prvi... Ali ako govorim kao obican slusalac - kacket mi
ostaje na glavi.
> Znas kako, nisam ni rekao da pljuje vec ima rezon koji
> je meni potpuno nerazumljiv i nelogican. To sto je Tupac
> odbacio neku stvar ne znaci da ta stvar nije zasluzila
> da se objavi.
Da li bi ti voleo da tvoja deca ne postuju tvoj
testament u kome se na primer kaze da se tvoja
autobiografija ne objavljuje? (Ako mu se onda te
pesme nisu svidele, ne verujem da bi mu se danas
svidele). Ja to tako shvatam...
> Pa recimo da je i Ceca Slavkovic odbijala da na svoj
> album stavi hit "Dlanom o dlan" dok je na to nisu
> naterali saradnici i menadzer, a...prodala je celu
> plocu zahvaljujuci upravo toj najjacoj stvari. ;)
Ceca je, Bogu hvala :), jos uvek ziva... Mozda bi
i Shakur, pod pritiskom menadzera, dozvolio da se
sve te stvari izbacuju, ali... to nikada necemo
znati.
> E, sad, sto se tice Tupac-a i (ne)ovlascenog
> objavljivanja mnogih pesama, tu sam skeptican.
> Ono, zar Afeni Shakur nije osnovala izdavacku kucu,
> zar nije dobila spor protiv Death Row-a i konacno,
> zar nema mogucnost zabrane objavljivanja pesama
> pokojnog Tupac-a od raznih plagijatora i lopova?
Ja nigde nisam rekao da se te pesme (ne)ovlasceno
objavljuju... Jednostavno, Afeni nije vlasnica svih
pesama koje su ostale iza njenog sina. Postoji mali
milion pesama u kojima je bio gost drugih izvodjaca,
i tu on (tj. Death Row) nije imao nikakvih vlasnickih
prava... E, takve se pesme pojavljuju (npr. sa
Bizzy-jem, Shyhiem-om, E-40-jem...).
Naravno, postoji i dosta nelegalno izdatih
underground kompilacija i mixtapeova sa njegovim
neobjavljenim pesmama, na Mrezi ima na desetine
site-ova sa njegovim pesmama... To bi Afeni, npr.
mogla da zabrani, ali je to malo teze jer ide
'pacovskim kanalima'...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1280brka,
-> #1272, ruby.rod
> Sa druge strane... Ja znam mnogo ljudi koji su nakon slusanja
> tih koji su prilagodeni sirokom spektru ;) rekli "Ah, kakvo je
> ovo dubre!" i apsolutno nisu bili zainteresovani za rap kulturu...
Da, to je nazalost tacno... Medjutim, kada je album PE-ja
'It Takes nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back' (inace, izabran
za najbolji album hip hop-a do sada) izasao, ovde kod nas
bilo je malo ljudi koji su slusali hip hop (zaista zanemarljiv
broj kada se uporedi sa sadasnjim...), ali je ipak taj album
i ovde postao kultni... Zbog cega? Zbog toga sto se svideo
urbanoj domacoj publici koja je tada slusala rock...
Ista je stvar sa Erick B & Rakim-om, i njihovim albumom
'Paid In Full' koji se tada, kada je radio B92 tek pocinjao
redovno vrteo u njihovom programu... a ljudi koji su tada
radili u devedesetdvojci nisu bas bili neki obozavaoci
hip hop-a...
Znaci, hip hop mora da dokaze da je i on urbana vrsta muzike,
a ne da nas svrstavaju sa tamo nekim nanama i kamilicama,
fanki gangsterima i patkama...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1284brka,
MISS MARY MACK
by: Danyel Smith
"A Queen with a crown / Down for whatever..."
The almighty matriarch of hip hop soul gets realer than real about fans,
fear, and fighting for her life.
PHOTOGRAPHED BY MARC BAPTISTE JUNE 10, 1999
AT SUN STUDIO AND HOTEL W, NEW YORK CITY
Mary's music-1992's auspicious What's the 411? (Uptown/MCA), 1993's
What's the 411? (remix album, Uptown/MCA), 1994's impeccable My Life
(Uptown/ MCA), 1997's expansive Share My World (MCA), her surprisingly
fluid 1998 live album, The Tour (MCA), and now, Mary (MCA)-is all
crammed with hopelessness and fury. And still there's room for
expectancy and desire. Hardcore, dewy-eyed Cinderella fantasies. The
kind of loneliness that can't be alleviated by anything except the
guy in question. And then, when his presence is not even the real
prescription, all you've got is what you believe to be the absolute
horror of self. Fun, right? Yes, yes, y'all: Real Love.
This is Mary J. Blige music. And except for within the confines of
the bedroom or the barroom, who thinks romantic antics a worthy
subject? What boy reading this isn't already bored? What girl isn't
already sucking her teeth, boyfriend in tow, sniffing at what is
(for her, this month) unnecessary Mary melodrama? Mary J. Blige has
already said it was her life, but really it's mine. And yours. And
your baby's mama's.
...
mary.txtrap.1285brka,
BAD BROAD
by: Mark Allwood
Eighteen-year old Paris Ly-nell Fluellen, a.k.a. Cha Cha, looks
tired. She's been going through the usual ups and downs of
touring--misplaced luggage, drama with hotels, the list goes
on. The young lyricist is in New York City on this rainy,
gloomy day as part of Ginuwine's U.S. tour and is also
promoting her debut album, Dear Diary, due out July 27.
Contrary to the pictures I've seen,
Cha Cha looks very youthful. But after sitting down and
talking, the Detroit-raised, Atlanta resident proves she's
mature well beyond her years.
Although she's only 18-year's-old, Cha Cha has years of
rapping experience. "I was 11 [when I first started rhyming].
It was just something that we did for fun, but then I just
developed a love for it. It was boosting my confidence." At
13, she realized she had talent and decided to take music
seriously, at which point her and a female friend started
a group. Her friend deviated from the plan. Cha Cha stayed
focused.
Her persistence culmimated in a record deal with Noontime/Epic.
She assembled some of today's biggest names on her debut album.
Nas, Trick Daddy, Juvenile, Kelly Price, Ja Rule and Memphis
Bleek make appearances on Dear Diary, and production maven
Derick "D-Dot" Angellettie and newcomer Shekspeare (TLC's "No
Scrubs") contributed tracks to the project. In a day and age
when most collaborations are done by recording a verse and
shipping it to the artist, Cha Cha was able to actually vibe
with most of the guests on her album in the studio. "It says
a lot about me on their behalf. Once I got to know them and
work with them, we realized it was more than just a check at
the end of the day. It was like a mutual respect."
Respect is something Cha Cha has been earning for some time
now. She spent her formative years coming up in Detroit's
notorious Hip Hop Shop, owned by fashion designer Maurice
Malone. The Hip Hop Shop held MC battles every Saturday and
allowed people like Eminem and Royce the 5'9 to hone their
skills. "I used to be in [the Hip Hop Shop] all the time
but the thing was, I used to have this motto, you think
big be big. So I never was a big fan of doing a lot of
local events. I was saving every penny [for] a trip to
New York or wherever."
Cha Cha is quick to point out that she, like many other
women, use her sexuality as an asset rather than a selling
tool. "I'm a feminist, I represent us to the tee. My thing
is be a bad broad about everything you do. A lot of my
music is directed towards females. I'm bigging us up in a
way of self respect, but not too political cause it's a
street wise type of thing, so I love that."
chacha.gifrap.1286gdown,
-> #1280, brkaGD> redovno vrteo u njihovom programu... a ljudi koji su tada
GD> radili u devedesetdvojci nisu bas bili neki obozavaoci
GD> hip hop-a...
A Mjehur ubica ? a Slonche ?
Koji su pravili prvu rap top listu u YU
Koji su vrteli rap kad god su mogli
Koji su premijerno emitovali po cele albume bez ubacivanja reklama
Koji su prvi nabavljali nove albume
Koji su napunili fonoteku 92 rapom vishe od bilo koje druge stanice
Koji su prvi emitovali domace rap bendove u svom programu
Nemoj tako.
rap.1287jexy,
-> #1273, mango> Skini onda kapu i Ceci, jer je ona otvorila oci mladoj publici i uputila ih
> na blagodeti slusanja Merime Njegomir;>> Ono sto se mnogi usudjuju da
Mojne bre Cecu da mi diras. Nemas pojma kolko sam tuzan sto ove godine
nije izdala novi album.. nemam reci da opisem to osecanje ;(
O:)
rap.1288brka,
-> #1273, mango
> Ono sto se mnogi usudjuju da svrstaju u hip-hop je obicno djubre.
> Zasto se kupuju albumi 2Pac i slicnih?
Bez obzira sto se to tebi ili meni ne svidja, Pac, Biggie,
Puffy, Jermain Dupri... pripadaju hip hop-u. Na to treba da
gledas sa druge strane - sa hip hop-om trenutno nesto nije
u redu...
Ovo sto si ti rekao je isto kao kad Sloba kaze:
'Ovi sto glasaju za opoziciju nisu narod'...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1289brka,
-> #1275, gdown
> U prevodu rap je mrtav,sve ostalo su bedni pokushaji
> ozhivljavanja istog.
Ja bih to malo drugacije preveo - hip hop je mrtav,
ziveo hip hop! :)
Mislim da hip hop definitivno nije mrtav, iako je
dosta toga krenula lose u poslednje 3-4 godine...
Ali, prosla godina je bila godina povrataka velikih
imena u ovoj muzici, ljudi koji su zaista mnogo toga
uradili - Rakim (najbolji hip hop MC of all times),
Public Enemy, EPMD, Brand Nubian, Gang Starr, Biz
Markie... ove godine bio je to X Clan... bice toga
jos.
Ukoliko slusas samo high rotation na MTV-ju (ili
Studiju B) naravno da ces zakljuciti to sto si
zakljucio... Ali, meni se cini da 'nije sve tako
crno'.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1290brka,
-> #1286, gdown
> A Mjehur ubica ? a Slonche ?
> Koji su pravili prvu rap top listu u YU
> Koji su vrteli rap kad god su mogli
> Koji su premijerno emitovali po cele albume bez ubacivanja reklama
> Koji su prvi nabavljali nove albume
> Koji su napunili fonoteku 92 rapom vishe od bilo koje druge stanice
> Koji su prvi emitovali domace rap bendove u svom programu
> Nemoj tako.
Dva coveka ne cine radio... :) Istina je da je bilo hip hop-a
na devedesetdvojci (to sam uostalom i napisao), ali i dalje
ostajem pri stavu da vecina ljudi u tadasnjem B92 nisu
slusali hip hop... Sto bi rekao jedan moj drug - 'Veeeeruj
mi!'. :)
B92 je, kao prva prava urbana radio stanica kod nas, pustao
i hip hop, koji je tada bio daleko od ovoga sto je sada...
znaci, deo urbane muzicke scene. Mnogo dalje od mainstreama
nego danas...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1291mango,
-> #1287, jexyMa, ne sekiram se ja za tebe dok je tebi Sinana O:))
rap.1292mango,
-> #1288, brkaNisam zeleo da kazem da Puffy, 2Pac isl. nsiu deo hip-hopa, ali kvalitet te
muzike je mizeran. Pritom, mislim na ono sto slusanje te muzike pruza. Rekao
bih da su te pesme antiHipHop (ma koliko se to mnogima nece svideti).
rap.1293ica.z,
-> #1274, gligo> Zamerio se mnogima, da li Andersonu, suprotnim bandama, Puffyu i
> Biggiu ili nekom drugom vise nije ni bitno.
>
> Sto kaze grafit ispod njegovog portreta na jednom od zgrada
> juznog L.A.-a: " Live by the gun, die by the gun!".
i pored svega shto je imao ostao je isti... to je vrlina
zbog koje ga najvishe poshtujem...
a dalje mozemo samo da nagadjamo... ziv ili ne...
Ica
rap.1294ica.z,
-> #1278, brka> Svaka cast na znanju, ali mislim da bi vise naucio
> kada bi ucio tekstove KRS-a ili PE-ja ili Commona.
> No, dobro... your choice.
slusham i KRS-a i PE... ne bash u poslednje vreme...
ali inache veoma chesto... i josh mnogo toga...
naravno da ne treba slushati samo jednog lika...
to rade samo oni najokoreliji fanovi... nisam fan
nikoga...
> Mogao bih da nadjem i posaljem ovde onu cuvenu
> sliku sa Shakurove obdukcije, ali opet ce ljudi
> koji veruju u 'Makavelijevu teoriju zavere' da
> kazu kako je to montaza, ili nesto slicno... So,
> svako neka veruje u ono sto hoce...
e mogao bi poshto ja nisam bash u 'internet gasu'...
tachnije nemam vremena...
chinjenice su chudo... u tupac-ovom sluchaju one su
te koje idu u korist tome da je josh uvek ziv...
dalje mozemo samo da nagadjamo... sumnjam da ce ga
neko od nas sresti pa ce moci sa stoprocentnom
sigurnoshcu da potvrdi to da je ziv...
Ica
rap.1295ruby.rod,
-> #1289, brka=> Ali, prosla godina je bila godina povrataka velikih
=> imena u ovoj muzici, ljudi koji su zaista mnogo toga
=> uradili - Rakim (najbolji hip hop MC of all times),
=> Public Enemy, EPMD, Brand Nubian, Gang Starr, Biz
=> Markie... ove godine bio je to X Clan... bice toga
=> jos.
Mda... I za dve nedelje izlazi novi Run DMC... Ostaje samo
jedno pitanje: Gde su tu nove snage? ;)
U undergroundu? Sigurno... Ali kako mi da dođemo do njih?
rap.1296ruby.rod,
-> #1277, brka=> Ne znam, mozda je prva verzija, ili neka druga trajala
=> 16 minuta, ali ova koju ja imam traje "samo" 7...
=> Tacnije, 7:05:55... :)
Blago tebi... ;) Verzija koju ja imam na nekoj Old School kompilaciji
traje 16 minuta...
rap.1297ruby.rod,
-> #1280, brka=> 'It Takes nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back' (inace, izabran
=> za najbolji album hip hop-a do sada) izasao, ovde kod nas
Da, a zvanično najbolja grupa su Run DMC.
Ja se ne bih složio ni sa jednim izborom. Nation, po meni, jeste
najznačajniji album hip hopa, zato što je još '88. godine na
sjajan način spojio crnu i belu muziku. Međutim kada bi me pitali
da li mi se više dopada Nation, Muse Sick-N-Hour Mess Age ili
Apocalypse 91... ne bih znao da odgovorim. :) Kako su PE izdali
tri (po mom skromnom mišljenju :) najbolja hip hop albuma svih
vremena (a ukupno su ih izdali 6 + he got game + greatest misses
+ 1 solo Chuck D-a i 2 solo albuma Terminator X-a) logično je
da su i najbolja hip hop grupa svih vremena. :)
Da ne zaboravim najbolji album ove godine - There's A Poison Goin On...
(ako nekoga zanima da kupi neotpakovani original neka mi se javi na mail)
Uz izvinjenje na ovoj "sitnoj" digresiji od osnovne niti razgovora ;)
da pitam ima li neko ova dva Terminatorova solo albuma?
=> Znaci, hip hop mora da dokaze da je i on urbana vrsta muzike,
=> a ne da nas svrstavaju sa tamo nekim nanama i kamilicama,
=> fanki gangsterima i patkama...
Apsolutno. Hip hop kultura ne mora da bude masovno popularna, ono da
svi repuju, brejkuju i rade grafite, ali se definitivno mora izbeći
da neko ozbiljno shvati kada se razne patke sa ili bez xenie u svojim
pesmama deklarišu kao reperi.
Korov treba čupati iz korena... Dakle od Bad Boy Entertainmenta i
No Limit Recordsa.
rap.1298gdown,
-> #1290, brkaGD> Dva coveka ne cine radio... :) Istina je da je bilo hip hop-a
GD> na devedesetdvojci (to sam uostalom i napisao), ali i dalje
GD> ostajem pri stavu da vecina ljudi u tadasnjem B92 nisu
GD> slusali hip hop... Sto bi rekao jedan moj drug - 'Veeeeruj
GD> mi!'. :)
Nije Bitno da li je vecina ljudi na B 92 slushala hip hop ili ne
jer se b 92 nikad nije karakterisao kao hip hop stanica :)
Bitno je da je zastupljenost hip hopa bila vishe nego dovoljna u
ono vreme
1990. kada hip hop nije bio toliko IN kao danas subotom i nedeljom
popodne su ishli blokovi od 2-3 sata iskljuchivo rap muzike gde si
mogao da chujesh Geto boys, Brand nubian, Yung mc, Run dmc, N.W.A. ,
B.D.P. , P.E, i josh gomilu bendova. Da ne pominjem rap listu koja
je bila vrhunska.
Nediraj 92- ku ;)
rap.1299gdown,
-> #1297, ruby.rodGD> vremena (a ukupno su ih izdali 6 + he got game + greatest misses
GD> + 1 solo Chuck D-a i 2 solo albuma Terminator X-a) logicno je
GD> da su i najbolja hip hop grupa svih vremena. :)
GD>
GD> Da ne zaboravim najbolji album ove godine - There's A Poison
A Bring the noise 2000 ?
A 2 albuma Profesor Grifa ,koji je iz njih ponikao ? :)
GD> da pitam ima li neko ova dva Terminatorova solo albuma?
Imam ja prvi, ako ti treba mail me.
rap.1300gligo,
-> #1273, mango> blagodeti slusanja Merime Njegomir;>> Ono sto se mnogi usudjuju
> da svrstaju u hip-hop je obicno djubre. Zasto se kupuju albumi
> 2Pac i slicnih?
> Zato jer ne zahtevaju da se u njihovo slusanje/gledanje/citanje
> ulozi trud, eto zato. Pola ovih hip-hop grupa su obicno sranje,
> treba izvrsiti selekciju u svakom slucaju.
> Hip hop je direktno proistekao iz tradicije dzeza koji krasi
> mastovitost, inteligencija, sarm i srce autora/ interpretatora.
> Koja od ovih osobina krasi 2Pac, BIGa i slicne?
Dva coveka koja su obelezila rap '90-tih tih nazivas djubretom? :(
Tragicno.
Biggie je (bio) najbolji hardcore reper sa najubitacnijim recima jos
od vremena Slick Ricka.
Za Tupaca dovoljno govore i ankete gde je ponosno i ravnopravno
pored najjacih imena i pionira hip-hopa.
Njih dvojica, njihova muzika, njihovo prijateljstvo i rivalstvo, obelezilo
je hip-hop '90-tih, a ako si ti od onih koji cinjenice ne vide od slepe
mrznje prema istima, onda je ova rasprava besmislena.
Ukoliko imas nesto argumentovano da zameris, izvoli, do tad',
oladi sa onakvim komentarima. ;)
rap.1301gligo,
-> #1272, ruby.rod> Popularnost jedne vrste muzike se ne moze siriti na duze staze
> tako sto ce se hiperprodukcijom dubreta sve ostalo ugusiti...
Mase je djubre, Lil' Kim je djubre, Will Smith je djubre, Wanilla Ice
je djubre. ;)
BIG i Tupac su daleko ispred ovog djubreta.
rap.1302gligo,
-> #1292, mango> Nisam zeleo da kazem da Puffy, 2Pac isl. nsiu deo hip-hopa, ali
> kvalitet te muzike je mizeran. Pritom, mislim na ono sto
> slusanje te muzike pruza.
Vidis, taj tvoj argument cisto stoji na osloncu subjektivnog dozivljaja.
Nisam sam ja jedini koji u onome sto je Tupac ostavio iza sebe,
nalazim nesto, cak su i kriticari bili naklonjeni Tupacu izuzimajuci
neke ocene da njegove pesme glorifikuju odnosno podsticu nasilje.
Da je bio kicos kakav je recimo Mase sada, ne bi se raspredale legende
o njemu i ne bi ga svojatao svaki baja koji misli da je nasao mesto na
rap sceni.
rap.1303ventura,
-> #1300, gligo> > Koja od ovih osobina krasi 2Pac, BIGa i slicne?
>
> Dva coveka koja su obelezila rap '90-tih tih nazivas djubretom? :(
> Tragicno.
Nego sta nego djubre... Gde je muzika u tim spotovima? Gde je originalnost?
Da ti opisem kako izgledaju SVI rap spotovi tamo preko...
Crnja vozi neka besna kola, okaci 5 kila zlata oko vrata, skupi 15 mega
riba oko sebe, jede govna o njihovim pravima ili vec cemu...
Zar je to muzika?
Zasto su oni popularni?
Zato jer te spotove gledaju camuge po bronksu i drugim crnackim cetvrtima
koji nemaju leba da jedu jer su oni prevelike face da idu u skolu (kobajagi
rasizam vlada u skolama i tako te gluposti) i onda uz TV gleda tog tipa
sa besnim kolima/ribama/zlatom kako se qrci na ekranu misleci da ce mu to
sve pasti sa neba... i onda takvim spotovima pare oci, gledaju stvari koje
nikad nece moci da imaju i onda se loze da i oni postanu baje sa televizije
pa i oni pocu na pisu neka rap sranja... i tako se u krug...
Rap je samo zapadna verzija ovog naseg turbo folka... bedni su...
rap.1304corgan,
-> #1303, venturaTako je, konacno je neko shvatio...
B.
PS: Posle se pitamo zashto su ameri tako debilni, a na prvim mestima Britney
Spears & Co.
rap.1305corgan,
-> #1304, corganHteo sam u stvari da kazem da je muzika najuticajniji vid zabave.
Primer: na ulici vidish nekoga koji na sebi ima neke pantalone, Commando
cipele,
ili pak martinke, kozhnu jaknu, majcu sex pistols, odmah znash da je panker,
znash kako razmushlja, i tako to...
Ovo naravno nije u svim slucajevima tacno, al znate shta sam hteo da kazhem.
A to je, kakvu muziku slushash onakav si...
PS: Znam da na meni nije da odlucujem sta valja a shta ne, i ovo ne bi trebalo
bude uvreda ni za koga, ali samo iznosim mishljenje...
rap.1306ica.z,
-> #1303, ventura> Rap je samo zapadna verzija ovog naseg turbo folka... bedni su...
e ajde ne lupetaj gluposti... jel slushash rep??? ne???
pa kako onda mozesh da donosish takve zakljuchke...
video si 2 spota od c-block-a i mislish da sve znash
o rep kulturi... ajde bezi bre... smeshan si...
niti znash istoriju repa, niti znash vishe od dva
izvodjacha, niti si slushao ono pravo od repa...
i zato ne bulazni dzabe... samo ispadash glup...
Ica
rap.1307ica.z,
-> #1304, corgan> Tako je, konacno je neko shvatio...
a ti si do jaja upucen, informisan i naslushan rep
muzike pa da mozesh da potvrdjujesh onaj bullshit...
ne seri i ti...
> PS: Posle se pitamo zashto su ameri tako debilni, a na prvim mestima
ameri jesu najveci debili na svetu ali crni ameri su
vec druga pricha... sve su samo debili nisu...
veruj meni jer sam imao prilike da hengujem s istima
u vishe navrata... poznajem veoma dobro njihov mentalitet...
Ica
rap.1308ica.z,
-> #1305, corgan> Primer: na ulici vidish nekoga koji na sebi ima neke pantalone, Commando
> cipele,
> ili pak martinke, kozhnu jaknu, majcu sex pistols, odmah znash da je
> panker, znash kako razmushlja, i tako to...
kolko ljudi tolko cudi... sve zavisi kakav je ko lik...
shta gotivi a shta ne... gde pronalazi sebe a gde ne...
sve se vrti oko toga...
Ica
rap.1309ruby.rod,
-> #1303, ventura=> Da ti opisem kako izgledaju SVI rap spotovi tamo preko...
=>
=> Crnja vozi neka besna kola, okaci 5 kila zlata oko vrata, skupi 15
=> mega riba oko sebe, jede govna o njihovim pravima ili vec cemu...
Dobro je kad ti treba nama koji to slušamo da opisuješ rap spotove...
Ono... Jako nemaš pojma, ali nisi ti kriv... Kriv je Paf Dedi za sve...
A što se "jedenja govana o njihovim pravima" tiče, zanima me šta ti
slušaš i o čemu jedu govna ti koje ti slušaš? Čisto informativno.
rap.1310ruby.rod,
-> #1299, gdown=> A Bring the noise 2000 ?
To je trebalo da bude drugi album tipa Greatest Misses. Dakle, par
novih stvari i par remixa starih stvari. Koliko sam ja čuo, to nije
izašlo zahvaljujući razdoru između PE (pre svega Chucka) i Def Jama.
Zna li neko 100% šta se desilo sa BTN2000?
=> A 2 albuma Profesor Grifa ,koji je iz njih ponikao ? :)
Da... Griff... Izbačen iz grupe zbog antisemitskih izjava. ;)
rap.1311brka,
Artist: KRS-One f/ Buckshot, Cam'Ron, Keith Murray, Killah Priest,
Prodigy of Mobb Deep, Redman, Run of Run-D.M.C. and Vigilante
Album: The Corruptor soundtrack/Maximum Strength
Song: 5 Boroughs
Yo yo brand new KRS y'all, Maximum Strength
5 Boroughs of death we rep to death
Yo Kris, set it for The Bronx..
[KRS-One]
We hit em and get em, we stick em and jig em
we pick em and kick em
Flippin them whip and I'm wing-clippin them lip
cause I'm cold sick of them
Much quicker than them lyrically trickin and my Tribe
be on a Quest like Tip and them
On every avenue puttin the full clip in em
Splittin and strippin em down while spittin a round
into them soundclash see winnin them, just begginin them
Get rid of ev-ery bit of them with them negative idioms
I don't even consider them
In the new millenium we killin them
Breeze Deep, Kenny and Will and them, KRS-One we thrillin em
Many battles we been in them now we rebuildin them
We blaze, fulfillin them, Keith ?, Jesse, Jamil and them
We originate styles, other be stealin them
[Vigilante]
You got a good rise in your rolodex, who flow is next?
Comin out to {fuck} with the best, put it in your chest
Inhale it and hold that, blow it out when I say let go; let's see
if you can hold your breath, by the time I flip to the next flow
This sho' is real, this is the deal, guns I'm runnin
Gotta make it out of town to flip my {shit} and keep it comin
Then bring it back, with another stack, of raps to blow your back out
How many of y'all wanna go for yours I keep my dogs in the crackhouse
[Buckshot]
Let's take a walk through Crown Heights
Steppin through the city at night, with the ? and two mic
Form a little lynch mob, and stomp through the five boroughs
Head back to Brooklyn in the Expo
Back on the block, I see the cops everybody clockin
Buckshot, when you see the rocks, me I got you shocked
Why not? You see the recipe
Buckshot, I represent Brooklyn and my {nigga} Biggie
[Keith Murray]
I'm from C-I, L-I, F-L-Y
Where the {niggaz} and the {bitches} stay paid fly and high
Where a slut'll get mad if you call her a {bitch}
And a rat'll get mad if you call her a snitch
Where the rich emerge, with the {niggaz} from the ditch
And it's a myth, they get {niggaz} from the suburbs, that's herbs
Yo this is for my {niggaz} on the block all day
Who don't give a {fuck} waitin for crime to pay
Put your money on it, yo we never fronted
Long Island got some of the best {niggaz} that ever done it
From Riverhead to C.I. to Brentwood to Wyndanch
{Niggaz} comin through will not stand a chance
From Roosevelt to Freeport to Hempstead to Uniondale
Comin deep from the depths of hell
I'm dead serious, even though you see me smilin
Rough enough to break New York from Long Island
[Cam'Ron]
We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man
[?]
Uptown massive, Uptown the borough
Uptown let the ? kali, no sorrow
Uptown trestle, Uptown of course
I grab you ? they got me turn up to North
And if dem turn up North ? hurt no tell de boss
And if dem tell me off dey are a bunch of ghosts
And if dem gal are up, well den dem know da gal are boss
De rap dancehall try on de Mossinos
And if dem tie me off, dem can call me Cedro
I put a rap to singalong in all de ? crew
And if da gal a bitch ? ? the rainbow
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
[Killah Priest]
Yo, hit you with the force of an iron horse
Tear your face off the planet, leavin one-third damaged
Witcha back cracked the earth canvas, leavin mountains slanted
Rock the earth of the axle, crabs who
Polar bears beneath the sea gravel
Thoughts be runnin wild like the Lil' Rascals
Puttin dinosaurs inside of figure fours, rip you with nine inch claws
Chasin {motherfuckers} through malls, and clash in halls
Beatin {motherfuckers} through walls, stompin through floors
and jumpin down elevator shafts
Searchin for they {ass}, stayin low in the grass
Wearin a gas mask, wrappin their hands up in plastic bags
On stage like a savage goin mad
WHAT? Yeah yeah, sooooooooooooo!
[Prodigy]
Yeah, by all means you know you gotta put Queens on it
Put cream on it, Q.B. we rep often
Take over your party, slamdance witcha hood
Took your ladies back to the projects with us
Then sent her {ass} back on the Q-train home
Satisfied, she learned the words to my thug song
See we one big borough of Dons with firearms
And we never use those, til the man act
other than he's 'sposed to, {nigga} what I'm 'sposed to do?
Shots whistle, damn near missed dat
Shoes get pissed at
[Redman]
From the, tip of my Timbs, to my eyebrows
The hostile, english, Olde E widemouth
Get PCP fiends, jumpin off cliffs
And if you had the balls, you'd be walkin off stiff
My paragraph alone is worth five mics (uh-huh)
A twelve song LP, that's thirty-six mics (uh-huh)
And while you win Un Hype (uh-huh) I spit on your snipe
and tell you {fuck you} and that {bitch} on your bike
Brick City!!
[Reverand Run]
Aiyyo.. now bust it
Never try me crimey I'm grimy so don't deny me
I be Little like your Rascals and stymie to fly that hiney
Buy me keys, to my Benz and my Coupe
Like Jay and Run and D.M.C.'s, that's the name of my group
(now speed it up)
Beat to the rhythm of the rhyme
I'm givin up a dime, there go another line you figured
Never drivin by nine, never givin up a dime if you was
Never been that {nigga}
If you really wanna test me, brother don't stress me
Or you just be bowlin
It's Reverand like a Jesse, brother that's just me
and that's just my colon
The five boroughs of death, we rep to death
Step aside little {niggaz}, show time yep
It's goin down the moment we inside the spot
Let's rock'n'roll, you know the M.O., it gets real
when the five boroughs of death, we rep to death
Step aside little {niggaz}, show time yep
It's goin down the moment we inside the spot
Let's rock'n'roll, you know the M.O., it gets hot
rap.1313brka,
Molio bih vas da sto pre skinete pesmu 'What They Do',
jer cu je u roku od 5 dana obrisati, kako ne bi pravila
guzvu na disku...
Hvala unapred
Aleksandar
rap.1314corgan,
-> #1307, ica.zJa nikad nisam rekao da je ceo rep bulshit...
Na primer cuo sam onu stvar praistorijsku "Rapper's Delight", i mnogo je ql
stvar, i nema nikakve veze sa Puff Daddyem.
Al' isto tako mi se dopala Hypnotize, od ovog pokojnog, koji je radio sa Puff
Daddyem.
Hocu da kazhem, da stvarno nisam nikakav poznavalac repa, i nije poenta dal
neko poznaje rep vishe od mene, nego shta se kome svidja...
B.
rap.1315ventura,
-> #1309, ruby.rod> A sto se "jedenja govana o njihovim pravima" tice, zanima me sta ti
> slusas i o cemu jedu govna ti koje ti slusas? Cisto informativno.
Ja slusam svu muziku koja prija usima, najvise instrumentale u kojima
nema bas mnogo proseravanja :)
rap.1316brka,
-> #1294, ica.z
>> Mogao bih da nadjem i posaljem ovde onu cuvenu
>> sliku sa Shakurove obdukcije, ali opet ce ljudi
>> koji veruju u 'Makavelijevu teoriju zavere' da
>> kazu kako je to montaza, ili nesto slicno... So,
>> svako neka veruje u ono sto hoce...
> e mogao bi poshto ja nisam bash u 'internet gasu'...
> tachnije nemam vremena...
Evo, ide slika uz poruku... mrzi me da se cimam
i da na Netu trazim neku kvalitetniju (ne mogu
da se setim adrese site-a na kojoj sam je video).
Inace, ta slika je prvobitno objavljena u jednoj
knjizi o doticnom koja je izasla u AmeriKi
nekoliko meseci nakon Pacove smrti...
Ne zelim da odgovaram opet na one delove tvoje poruke
u kojima opet pokreces pitanje toga da li je ziv ili
ne. Svoje misljenje o tome sam izneo u prethodnoj
poruci. A i nisam njegov fan pa da ucestvujem u
carsavskim raspravama o njemu...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
atopsy.jpgrap.1317brka,
-> #1295, ruby.rod
> Mda... I za dve nedelje izlazi novi Run DMC... Ostaje
> samo jedno pitanje: Gde su tu nove snage? ;)
> U undergroundu? Sigurno... Ali kako mi da dodemo do
> njih?
The Roots, Canibus, Common (Sense), Killah Priest,
Black Star (Mos Def & Talib Kweli), Eminem, Outkast,
Ras Kass... mislim da postoji niz grupa i MC-ja,
kako middle, tako i new school-a koje uspevaju da
odrze hip hop na nogama.
Pitanje na mestu... kako mi ovde da dodjemo do njih.
Ja licno to radim putem Neta i satelitskog programa
(MTV i nekoliko satelitskih radio stanica).
Bila je pre nekoliko meseci na jednom hip hop site-u
anketa: Da li mislite da li je kvalitetniji under-
ground ili commercial hip hop. Underground je dobio
anketu sa 62% glasova... a tu su glasali uglavnom
Amerikanci kojima nije problem da dodju do njega.
Ne znam... da je sa Sezamom sve u redu, mogao bih
redovno da saljem underground hip hop muziku u
*.ra formatu... (naravno, to nisu imena koja sam
nabrojao na pocetku poruke, vec npr. Lootpack,
Blackalicious, Elusive, Eligh, Roots Manuva...).
Ali, Boze zdravlja, valjda ce se nesto popraviti.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1318brka,
-> #1296, ruby.rod
=> Ne znam, mozda je prva verzija, ili neka druga trajala
=> 16 minuta, ali ova koju ja imam traje "samo" 7...
=> Tacnije, 7:05:55... :)
> Blago tebi... ;) Verzija koju ja imam na nekoj Old School
> kompilaciji traje 16 minuta...
Verovatno je ova verzija koju ja imam skracena zbog
prakticnih razloga... ko ce ga znati. Ako se nesto
sa Sezamom popravi, prebacicu je u *.ra i zakaciti
ovde. Do tada...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1319brka,
-> #1297, ruby.rod
> Da, a zvanicno najbolja grupa su Run DMC.
Ne znam na koji izbor se pozivas... Ja govorim o Source-ovom.
Tu je za najbolju grupu izabran Wu. Veoma diskutabilno, ali
svaki izbor je subjektivan, koliko god se u njega ukljucivali
citaoci (gledaoci, slusaoci...). Inace, slao sam taj izbor
ranije u grupu (a valjda sam i u konferenciju)...
> Da ne zaboravim najbolji album ove godine - There's A Poison
> Goin On... (ako nekoga zanima da kupi neotpakovani original
> neka mi se javi na mail)
Preslusao sam Poison... (prva dva singla jos kada su izasla
na PE site-u), ali je za mene najbolji album ove godine -
The Roots 'Things Fall Apart'.
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1320brka,
-> #1298, gdown
> Nije Bitno da li je vecina ljudi na B 92 slushala hip hop
> ili ne jer se b 92 nikad nije karakterisao kao hip hop
> stanica :)
... Vec urbana stanica. E, tu opet dolazimo do istog
zakljucka do kog smo dosli u nekoj od prethodnih
poruka - hip hop je tada definitivno bio deo urbane
muzike i urbanog pokreta, a danas se od toga polako
ali sigurno udaljava.
> Nediraj 92- ku ;)
B92 hocu da diram! Ali B292 necu... :) Salim se, dirao
sam i njega preksinoc na koncertu...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1321brka,
-> #1300, gligo
> Dva coveka koja su obelezila rap '90-tih tih nazivas
> djubretom? :( Tragicno.
Ne smatram da su oni, tj. njihovi albumi obelezili '90-te,
ali definitivno smatram da su njihova ubistva bili
dogadjaji koji su obelezili hip hop ove decenije...
> Biggie je (bio) najbolji hardcore reper sa najubitacnijim
> recima jos od vremena Slick Ricka.
Uh... malo previse komplimenata, rekao bih. Meni je
Big Poppa bio OK, ali ne bih bas rekao da je imao
najubitacnije tekstove (imao je mnogo gluposti u
njima, npr. kada u 'One More Chance' kaze 'black
and ugly as ever...'. Taj stih je posle naisao na
velika negodovanja). Ali, opet kazem, to je subjektivna
stvar...
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1322brka,
-> #1301, gligo
> Mase je djubre, Lil' Kim je djubre, Will Smith je djubre,
""""""""""""""""""
Znaci, najbolja prijateljica (nekada i devojka) najboljeg
rappera '90-tih je djubre... :)
Pozdrav,
Aleksandar
rap.1323brka,
PUFF DADDY 'PUFF DADDY FOREVER'-- SAVRSENI PRIMER IZGUBLJENE KULTURE
Sometimes, I think that Puff Daddy and others of his ilk-- I won't name
any names for fear of getting my ass kicked like Cheo H. Coker, James
Bernard and countless others-- exist in an alternate world. Who listens
to his shit anyway? Nobody I know.
And yet there's the massive display of Puff Daddy Forever CDs in the
record store, waiting to be scooped up. Meanwhile, Bahamadia can't
even buy a major label record deal. Oh well...
So, is Puff Daddy Forever (an obvious play on Wu-Tang Forever) any
good?
Imagine hearing a soothing piano loop coming into focus, as it
metamorphoses into a head-nodding hip-hop beat with the addition of
bass and drums. Then imagine the wackest rapper in the world trying
to flow over that.
There's some incredibly nice music on this album. Puff Daddy and the
Hitmen, Top of New York Productions, and others are able to update
played-out cuts like Prince's "Get Off" into club anthems-to-be like
"I'll Do This for You." It makes me wish that commercial artists would
start releasing instrumental versions of their albums for all the DJs
who don't mind playing flossy shit.
Puff Daddy, to be fair, holds his own on most of the tracks, keeping
time on fast-paced cuts like "Is This the End-- Part Two," and slow
numbers like "Satisfy You." But at best, he's as charismatic as a
bowl of overpriced cereal.
It's no surprise Puff Daddy has a guest on every track, from Jay-Z
on "Do You Like It...Do You Want It...," to the late Notorious B.I.G.
on "Real Niggas." His voice is droll and sullen, far removed from
the lithe, energetic dancer that explodes across television screens
in videos like "PE 2000."
The best moments on Puff Daddy Forever are when Puff Daddy blends
into the track, so all you can hear are infectious remakes of pop
hits like Christopher Cross' "Sailing." Listen too closely, and
you'll find that his lines are trite and occasionally nonsensical
("Sometimes I reminisce and wonder how I made it this far/Because
of you, I'm me, so you're the real star," on "Best Friend").
Puff Daddy Forever would be a perfect album for children-- it's
cloying, wildly fantastical ear candy that's ultimately
dispensable. But Puff Daddy is so obsessed with being hard and
mainstream at the same time that there's too many contradictory
images to contend with (he praises God on "Best Friend," and then
compares his situation to Jesus' on "Is This The End-- Part Two").
Come to think of it, what if hip-hop was-- as ODB so famously put
it-- for the children, instead of an opportunity to exploit their
enthusiasm for the art form and gouge their wallets for platinum
plaques? Puff Daddy Forever may be the perfect example of a lost
culture.-- Mosi Reeves
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