novosti.209ldjordje,
Konacno imamo moderatora :)))
Samo da te pozdravim :)
Puno srece u daljem radu i da nas ima što više !!!
novosti.210armitage,
-> #207, mikis> Hvala :) Ovako pred spavanje, samo jedan pozdrav Amigistima na sistemu
> (sa nove funkcije), pa očekujem vaše otpozdrave (ne bi li se malo
> prebrojali koliko nas ima) :)
Tu sam. O:)
Armitage
P.S.: Congrats & good luck!
novosti.212dejanp,
-> #207, mikisPuno pozdrava i srece u narednom radu.
p.s. Bice nas jos vise!
DEJANP O:)
novosti.213teorist,
-> #207, mikis+> Novost za danas je novi moderator konferencija Amiga. :)
+> Mikis - srecan rad. :)
=>
=> Hvala :) Ovako pred spavanje, samo jedan pozdrav Amigistima na sistemu
=> (sa nove funkcije), pa očekujem vaše otpozdrave (ne bi li se malo
=> prebrojali koliko nas ima) :)
A taman sam se počeo pitati ko nam je novi moderatori omiljete mi
konferencije O:))
POZDRAV ! :)
novosti.214mikis,
Amiga Report #4.02, 31. Januar 1996. Dalji komentar (nadam se) nepotreban :)
ar402.lhanovosti.215mikis,
Izašao je i Aminet 10 CD. Pored obilja PD/SW softvera, modula, slika
i ostalog po čemu je ova kolekcija poznata, na disku se nalazi i kompletna,
potpuno funkcionalna verzija čuvenog Page Streama 2.2, sa kompletnim
uputstvom ( i popustom za upgrade na verziju 3), kao i "skraćena" verzija
Type Smitha 2.5, trenutno najboljeg editora fontova. Takođe, na disku se
nalazi i oko 2000 fontova u Intellifont (CG), Postscript i bitmap formatu.
Uz poruku je priložen indeks fajlova sa opisima.
Ako neko vidi/dođe do diska, neka odmah javlja :)
novosti.216teorist,
-> #215, mikis=> Izašao je i Aminet 10 CD. Pored obilja PD/SW softvera, modula, slika
Ima li kod nas ???
novosti.217mikis,
Amiga Report #4.02 - 19. Februar 1996.g.
ar403.lhanovosti.218ljubinko,
Dobio sam Final Writer 4.02.
Program je na 9 disketa.
Razlike u odnosu na ranije verzije su:
potpuno drugaciji izgled ekrana,
mnogo poboljsana gramaticka kontrola i veliki izbor opcija
kod kontrole gramatike. Ovo je sada najbolji program za
kontrolu gramatike engleskog jezika.
Sve u svemu znacajno je bolji od ranijih verzija.
novosti.219teorist,
-> #218, ljubinko=> Dobio sam Final Writer 4.02.
=>
=> Program je na 9 disketa.
Hm, pošto nisam baš koristio F.W., možeš li ukratko napisati
koje tipove fontova dopušta i koji Export/Import za Grafiku i text ima ??
BTW, da li neki program može da učitava dokumente koje pravi Word4Win ??
novosti.220ljubinko,
-> #219, teorist
>Hm, posto nisam bas koristio F.W., mozes li ukratko napisati
>koje tipove fontova dopusta i koji Export/Import za Grafiku i text ima ??
Koristi svoje (Softwood) fontove i Adobe Postscript 1.
Uvozi mnogo toga, a tekst izvozi kao ASCII, ili snima svoj doc. fajl.
>BTW, da li neki program moze da ucitava dokumente koje pravi Word4Win ??
Cini me se da moze Page Sream 3.0. Cekam da dobijem ispravnu verziju
pa cu ti javiti detalje.
novosti.221mikis,
Amiga Report #4.04 (14.03.96) - obavezno skinite :) Pored ostalih lepih
stvari pronaćićete i saopštenje za štampu Amiga tech-a glede nedavno
završenog sajma CeBit, na kome je trebalo da bude predstavljen prototip
novog modela Amige :)
Ukratko, mašinica bi bila u novom, desktop kućištu, imala procesor
68EC030/40 MHZ, dva SIMM podnožja za RAM (proširivo do 128 MB), par slotova
za proširenje... Ostalo čitajte u AR-u :)
ar404.lhanovosti.222mikis,
Poštovana gospodo (i dame, ako vas ima :), čast mi je predstaviti
vam, po prvi put u vašem gradu - NOVI AMIGA DIREKTORIJUM!!! :))
Kao što možete primetiti, izvršena je temeljna reorganizacija Amiga
direktorijuma. Dodato je dosta novih direktorijuma, dobar deo starih
fajlova prebačen je tamo gde im je mesto, a ubačeno je i preko 10 MB novih
fajlova - s tim što pod "novi" podrazumevam kako nove, tako i starije
fajlove koji nikad nisu našli svoj put do konferencije :)
Sledeći korak biće "pretresanje" konferencije i prebacivanje
ostalih fajlova odatle na odgovarajuće mesto. Koristim ovu priliku da se
unapred zahvalim gospodinu calex-u, fajl moderatoru SezamNeta, koji će
pomoći u ovom poslu :)
Pa, gospodo - uživajte.
P.S. A sad malo ona!!! ;))
novosti.223mikis,
Da malo olakšam snalaženje, evo fajlova i poddirektorijuma koji su
dodati u Amiga dir:
amiga\*.*
------------------
ARC <DIR> ű Arhiveri, packeri i kompresori
BBS <DIR> ű BBS softver, door-ovi i alati
COM <DIR> ű Komunikacioni softver
DISK <DIR> ű Korisni programi za rad sa diskom
DOCS <DIR> ű Uputstva, korisni tekstovi, e-magazini
EMUL <DIR> ű Emulatori i operativni sistemi
FUN <DIR> ű Igre, zabava, grafika i zvuk
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INFO <DIR> ű Informacije i FAQ-ovi
MISC <DIR> ű Sve što nije u drugim direktorijumima
NET <DIR> ű Mreže - od lokalnih do Interneta
PRINT <DIR> ű Drajveri i programi za rad sa štampačem
PROG <DIR> ű Programski jezici i razvojni alati
SOUND <DIR> ű Muzički softver
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TEST <DIR> ű Sistemski testovi i monitori
TEXT <DIR> ű Obrada i konverzija teksta, DTP i fontovi
UTILS <DIR> ű Razni korisni programi
VIRUS <DIR> ű Antivirusni programi
amiga\arc\*.*
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crmv191t.lha 196k ű Crunch Mania 1.9 test version - Odličan krančer!
dmsv2-04.run 404k ű DMS V2.04 - standardni disk arhiver
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amiga\bbs\*.*
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amiga\com\*.*
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amiga\disk\*.*
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amiga\docs\*.*
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ansig112.lha 45k ű Specifikacije i objašnjenja ANSI i SKYPIX formata (AGuide)
librarie.lha 30k ű Vodič za Amiga biblioteke (libraries). AGuide format
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amiga\fun\*.*
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amiga\graph\*.*
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pnggio09.lha 43k ű PNG.gio V0.9 BETA - PNG&PCD loader/saver za Photogenics
tiffv114.lha 148k ű TIFFView V1.14
amiga\info\*.*
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amil1138.lha 64k ű Amiga Main Internet List (30-Nov-1995)
amiga\misc\*.*
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aworld31.lha 586k ű AmigaWorld V3.1 - atlas sa podacima o svim zemljama sveta
amiga\net\*.*
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agetty02.lha 49k ű AGetty V0.218 - remote rad na računaru
airm12.lha 115k ű AirMail 1.2 - GUI Internet Mail program (POP3/SMTP/ESMPT)
amftp149.lha 118k ű AmFTP V1.49 - GUI FTP klijent, zahteva MUI 3.0+
amitcp3b.lha 602k ű AmiTCP 3.0 beta 2 - kompletan TCP/IP paket za Amigu
amitcp4d.lha 659k ű AmiTCP 4.0 demo - kompletan TCP/IP paket za Amigu
auucp116.lha 1167k ű AmigaUUCP V1.16 - kompletan UUCP paket za Amigu
grn_2_1a.lha 232k ű GRn V2.1a - GadTools (Usenet) News Reader
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mlink134.lha 124k ű MultiLink V1.34 - emulira Internet vezu preko UNIX shell-a
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s2-cslip.lha 46k ű SANA-II kompatiblini SLIP i CSLIP.device
telnetd2.lha 108k ű telnet daemon, rel.2 - Telnet daemon za AmiTCP
tin123.lha 182k ű TIN V1.23 - Amiga verzija čuvenog Internet mail reader-a
tnserv11.lha 68k ű tnserv V1.1 - Telnet daemon za AmiTCP
amiga\print\*.*
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pgstrmhp.lha 4k ű PageStream drajveri za HP Laser/DeskJet
amiga\system\*.*
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move22a.lha 4k ű Move 2.2a - komanda za premeštanje fajlova
mui23usr.lha 604k ű Magic User Interface (MUI) V2.3 (user archive)
mui3.lha 464k ű Magic User Interface (MUI) V3.0
toolm21b.lha 489k ű ToolManager V2.1 - sjajna alatka za WB2.0+ (bin)
toolm21g.lha 176k ű ToolManager V2.1 - animacije, brush-evi i ikone
xtrainfo.lha 115k ű ExtraInfo V1.0 - Deluxe zamena za WB2.0+ Info komandu
amiga\text\*.*
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addcr10.lha 12k ű AddCR V1.0 - konvertuje LF<->CR+LF, veoma brz
agwr103.lha 25k ű AGWriter V1.03 - pravljenje AmigaGuide fajlova (GUI)
cedpch10.lha 7k ű CEDPatch 1.0 - patch-uje menije CED-a 3.5
golded30.lha 856k ű GoldED V3.0 - odličan programerski editor
gui2html.lha 17k ű Konverzija AmigaGuide->HTML
hdly11.lha 137k ű Heddley V1.1 - odličan AmigaGuide editor (GUI)
letter.lha 21k ű LetterMatcher - konverzija IFF->ASCII
man2ansi.lha 13k ű Konvertuje Unix MAN fajlove u ANSI
minixpkg.lha 17k ű MiniXpkGuide V1.0 - zamena za Multiview, XPK podrška
vinci22.lha 181k ű Vinci V2.2 - odličan tekst view-er
amiga\utils\*.*
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grep20.lha 49k ű Grep V1.0 - traži zadati string/izraz u fajlovima
amiga\virus\*.*
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trsivw58.lha 379k ű TRSI Virus Workshop V5.8 (04.06.95)
novosti.224mikis,
-> #223, mikis+> Da malo olakšam snalaženje, evo fajlova i poddirektorijuma koji su
+> dodati u Amiga dir:
Vidim, opšte oduševljenje povodom ovoga ;) :( Evo spiska fajlova sa
Aminet 8 CD-a (oktobar 1995. - fajlovi sa Amineta zaključno sa
22.09.95), pa vičite ako vas nešto interesuje.
Stiže i index sa Meeting Pearls-a 2, a ispostavilo se da je bilo
problema u snimanju Amineta 5, tako da on stiže kasnije :(
aminet8.lhanovosti.225mikis,
Meeting Pearls II - spisak fajlova.
mpearls2.lhanovosti.226mikis,
Nova Amiga na pomolu: kako će izgledati? Prema časopisu CU Amiga:
- - -
Project Walker Specifications;
CPU
68EC030 40Mhz (Proto 25Mhz while custom chip 'Tony' a PLA/GAL')
Space for FPU. Could be socket or FPU as standard in production unit.
SUPPORT
Real time clock as standard
Hard drive as standard (size depending on market when manufactured)
CD (Quad Speed) as standard
Billed as 1MB CHIP RAM + 4MB of FAST as standard. Likely to be 2+4.
2 SIMM sockets. Expandable to 128MB of RAM. (That's right)
ASSORTED
PCB currently 6 layers but expected to reduce to 4 and footprint
to be reduced noticably. Rectangular optimised PCM layout is far
cheaper to product.
Return to dial in-line socketted 8520 CIAs even at greater cost.
PCMCIA in prototype but expected to be dropped for production unit.
EXPANSION
Standard multicontroller PC style IO chip. Exact model undecided since
they are largely similar to include in the design and program.
Features; EPP Parallel port, High speed serial port, E-IDE port used
for CD-ROM and hard drives, Floppy controller * See note.
* Floppy Controller is obviously capable of full speed (not half spin)
HD floppy disk access but this provides a delima in how to support
existing hardware illegal DD floppy access. Some sort of electronic
switching is being considered as well as a physical switch/cable
relocation to move between the new controller and the standard Paula
based interface. A change in the HD Amiga floppy architecture is also
planned.
It's planned that the production unit will accept standard PC AT
keyboards so that the user may choose their own unit.
OS
Currently V43.1, KS 3.2 will move to a set of 1MB chips which while
AT aren't sure if it will be provided by THEMSELVES as an retro
upgrade for existing machines (A3K/A4K and A1200 can take 1MB ROMs
apparently) they are open to a 3rd party deal at the least.
Contains mainly bug-fixes and small enhancements like the removal
of the 2GB limit from FFS.
CDFS revamped and bug-fixed to function with Scala etc and obviously
the new E-IDE interface.
SLOTS
There's one slot located dead center in the motherboard. However it's
split into two sections so that it may house 2 cards if needs be.
The exact details on the signals and purpose of each half weren't
finalised or available but basically one can surmise that one is a
CPU slot and the other a video slot. Signals will be duplicated so
that different cards could function.
Amiga Technologies WILL MARKET THEIR OWN PPC UPGRADE! Though it was
developed in conjuncton with Phase 5, AT will provide the upgrade
which will contain a new OS on-board and such forth. PPC603 based.
If it's not obvious, it's possible in theory to plug in a GFX board
in the video half and a 680x0 based accelerator in the CPU half. It's
not clear if the PPC card will need both or just the CPU slot.
Another major application could be to make a Zorro and/or PCI break
out board from this slot. No, there are NO Zorro or PCI slots as
standard though the physical nature of the slot is PCI style.
An additional small 'IO' slot is being considered. 3rd party simple
hardware projects such as a networking facility, extra serial ports
or a sampler could be used with this as well as home made projects
conceivably. This isn't decided, just considered at this time.
CASE
Yes it's a vacuum cleaner. :-) Seriously the only way to describe it
is with a picture and I'm sure they'll turn up soon. Interesting
AT say that the hood could be raised by spacers and such forth to make
more room internally for a bus board for cards etc.
TIMEFRAME
AT say that the design will be finalised in the Summer ready for
production. It's not decided of Solectron will be the manufacturers.
The production unit should be available in the 'Fall' well in time
for the Christmas season.
NOTES/AUTHOR
I'm the techical staff writer for CU Amiga Magazine. This information
is important enough to release publically immediately though more
details, details (very) pictures and interviews with the AT design
team will feature in the next issue. <sorry for the plug>
All of this information resulted from direct interviews with AT
staff at the CeBIT show including members of the Walker design team.
FINAL
The name 'Walker' is not the production name! Therefore we call it
Project Walker. The name is undecided and Amiga Technologies have
decided to run a competition for the name of the unit! This
competition will be run through our magazine. Both by writing in to
the standard address and E-mailing walker-compo@cu-amiga.demon.co.uk
Just state your name in the body of the mail. That's all that's
required, if you win I'll be in touch via E-mail to sort out the
prize/s.
Prizes; 1st Amiga Surf Pack, 2nd Amiga Magic Pack.
.--. __
_ ___ |CU| /\ |\/| | | _ /\
/\/\(-) | @ `--' /~~\ | | | |__| /~~\ Staff technical writer
novosti.227vpoznanovic,
-> #222, mikis>> Poštovana gospodo (i dame, ako vas ima :), čast mi je predstaviti
>> vam, po prvi put u vašem gradu - NOVI AMIGA DIREKTORIJUM!!! :))
Drago mi je da se napokon stvari odvijaju bez zastoja, rekao bih, čak i
neočekivano brzo. Vidim, već si prebacio i dobar dio svoje kolekcije u
novi direktorijum, to je stvarno za svaku pohvalu. Sad imamo sve
preduslove za razvoj naše "Amiga zajednice". :) Potrebno je još samo
malo dobre volje i vremena, čega nam, ja se nadam, neće zafaliti. :)
novosti.228vpoznanovic,
-> #224, mikis>> Vidim, opšte oduševljenje povodom ovoga ;) :( Evo spiska fajlova sa
>> Aminet 8 CD-a (oktobar 1995. - fajlovi sa Amineta zaključno sa
>> 22.09.95), pa vičite ako vas nešto interesuje.
Kad smo već kod toga, ja sam napokon kompletirao kolekciju indeks
fajlova sa Aminet CD-ova. Neki dan sam skinuo spiskove šestice i sedmice,
tako da sad imam sve od 1-10. Kad zatreba, viči. :)
novosti.229vpoznanovic,
Da li i vi sanjate o jednoj ovakvoj zvjerčici? Evo kako ona izgleda u
očima nekoga kome se san pretvorio u javu. :)
REVIEW: Blizzard 1230-IV accelerator for A1200
bl1230iv.lhanovosti.230vpoznanovic,
A šta mislite da je još dobijete u kombinaciji sa ovom aždajom? :)
REVIEW: Quantum Fireball 1280A A63 IDE hard drive
fb1280a.lhanovosti.231vpoznanovic,
Amiga Report #4.05 - 31. mart 1996.
ar405.lhanovosti.232vpoznanovic,
-> #226, mikis>> Nova Amiga na pomolu: kako će izgledati? Prema časopisu CU Amiga:
>>
>> Project Walker Specifications;
Nakon ovog teksta, nema potrebe da bilo šta dodajem. Sve važnije
informacije su tu, osim možda par sličica. :) Specifikacije malo variraju
od izvora do izvora, ali u osnovi, to je to.
Primijetio bih samo jednu stvar koja mi nikako ne ide u glavu - 1 Mb CHIP
RAM-a!? Nije mi jasno kako neko u ovoj poplavi multimedijalnih aplikacija
i WWW-a uopšte može razmišljati o tome da novu Amigu izbaci na tržište sa
samo jednim megabajtom grafičke memorije??? Valjda misle da svi imaju
sredstava za Retinu ili CyberGraphX, šta li? :(
novosti.233marshall,
-> #227, vpoznanovic
>> Postovana gospodo (i dame, ako vas ima :), cast mi je predstaviti
>> vam, po prvi put u vasem gradu - NOVI AMIGA DIREKTORIJUM!!! :))
vp> Drago mi je da se napokon stvari odvijaju bez zastoja, rekao bih, cak i
vp> neocekivano brzo. Vidim, vec si prebacio i dobar dio svoje kolekcije u
vp> novi direktorijum, to je stvarno za svaku pohvalu. Sad imamo sve
vp> preduslove za razvoj nase "Amiga zajednice". :) Potrebno je jos samo
I to veoma lep ! :)
vp> malo dobre volje i vremena, cega nam, ja se nadam, nece zafaliti. :)
~~~~~~~
Meni ce ovoga u velikim kolicinama faliti sve negde do pocetka jula :(
Rado bih ucestvovao u razvoju Amigine zajednice, ali se bojim da cu biti
manje-vise nemi posmatrac :(
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.234marshall,
-> #232, vpoznanovic
>> Nova Amiga na pomolu: kako ce izgledati? Prema casopisu CU Amiga:
>>
>> Project Walker Specifications;
vp> Nakon ovog teksta, nema potrebe da bilo sta dodajem. Sve vaznije
vp> informacije su tu, osim mozda par slicica. :) Specifikacije malo variraju
vp> od izvora do izvora, ali u osnovi, to je to.
vp> Primijetio bih samo jednu stvar koja mi nikako ne ide u glavu - 1 Mb CHIP
vp> RAM-a!? Nije mi jasno kako neko u ovoj poplavi multimedijalnih aplikacija
vp> i WWW-a uopste moze razmisljati o tome da novu Amigu izbaci na trziste sa
vp> samo jednim megabajtom graficke memorije??? Valjda misle da svi imaju
vp> sredstava za Retinu ili CyberGraphX, sta li? :(
Eee.
Pravo da ti kazem, za koji dan bi trebalo da cujem informacije o
Walker-u iz prve ruke.. Odmah cu vam preneti ono sto saznam..
Za sada - kako kaze jedan moj drugar - ako to bude bio 1 Mb CHIP-a, ali
BRZOG CHIP-a, onda ce prakticno moci da se vrsi miksovanje svega i
svacega u FAST-u i kopiranje u CHIP za prikaz. Sve u svemu, to ne bi
bilo tako lose, ako je zaista to - brzi CHIP RAM.
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.235mikis,
-> #232, vpoznanovic+> Valjda misle da svi imaju sredstava za Retinu ili CyberGraphX, šta li? :(
Teško, jer ni Retina ni ostale kartice 'ne pašu' u Walkera ;)) Šalu
na stranu, najviše me boli što se nastavlja sa tako glupim sakaćenjima
mašina. Ja bih istog momenta prodao svoju A1200 i kupio Walkera, samo da
nisu stavili procesor bez MMU-a :(( Ovako, čekam da vidim šta će se
desiti, hoće li izaći jeftinija A4000, poboljšan Walker, neka ne
preterano skupa turbo kartica za A1200...
novosti.236stevicm,
-> #235, mikis> masina. Ja bih istog momenta prodao svoju A1200 i kupio Walkera, samo da
> nisu stavili procesor bez MMU-a :(( Ovako, cekam da vidim sta ce se
Ja trenutno imam PC, al sam u dusi Amigista!!!! Definitivno prvo
Komodor a sad i Escom imaj totalno diletantsku politiku razvoja
masina! Po meni bi Amiga koju bih odmah kupio bila masina sa 68030 ili
68040, znaci ne osakacene verzije procesora, koja ima ugradjen IDE
kontroler, memorija joj se prosiruje standardnim HD SIMMovima i koja
se nalazi u nekom desktop kucistu, ali onom sexi maleckom, sa odvojenom
tastaturom! Ovako samo gledam propadanje omiljene mi masine!!!!!
Garfika bi morala da omoguci 800x600 u 16M boja i to na standardnom
VGA monitoru. Naravno veca rezolucija od ove znaci i manje boja.
Mora da ima HD flopi, neki ugradjeni HD koji se lako menja i CD rom!
Naravno zvuk mora da bude 16 bitni stereo.
novosti.237vpoznanovic,
-> #234, marshall>> Za sada - kako kaze jedan moj drugar - ako to bude bio 1 Mb CHIP-a, ali
>> BRZOG CHIP-a, onda ce prakticno moci da se vrsi miksovanje svega i
>> svacega u FAST-u i kopiranje u CHIP za prikaz. Sve u svemu, to ne bi
>> bilo tako lose, ako je zaista to - brzi CHIP RAM.
Koliko god da bude brza, i dalje je to užasno mala količina memorije! Uzmi
na primjer Photogenics. Ja ne mogu da zamislim rad u njemu sa 1 Mb CHIP
RAM-a. A šta bi se tek desilo kad bih zajedno sa njim pokušao da pokrenem
i neki WWW browser???
novosti.238vpoznanovic,
-> #235, mikis>> Ovako, čekam da vidim šta će se desiti, hoće li izaći jeftinija
>> A4000, poboljšan Walker, neka ne preterano skupa turbo kartica za
>> A1200...
...ili će na kraju Amigina tehnologija poslužiti za razvoj interaktivne
televizije, kad je njen sljedeći vlasnik, VIScorp, preuzme. :((
novosti.239vpoznanovic,
-> #236, stevicm>> Po meni bi Amiga koju bih odmah kupio bila masina sa 68030 ili
>> 68040, znaci ne osakacene verzije procesora, koja ima ugradjen IDE
>> kontroler, memorija joj se prosiruje standardnim HD SIMMovima i koja
>> se nalazi u nekom desktop kucistu, ali onom sexi maleckom, sa odvojenom
>> tastaturom! Ovako samo gledam propadanje omiljene mi masine!!!!!
>> Garfika bi morala da omoguci 800x600 u 16M boja i to na standardnom
>> VGA monitoru. Naravno veca rezolucija od ove znaci i manje boja.
>> Mora da ima HD flopi, neki ugradjeni HD koji se lako menja i CD rom!
>> Naravno zvuk mora da bude 16 bitni stereo.
Ovakva Amiga konfiguracija može vrlo lako da se sastavi kupovinom
pojedinačnih komponenti. Nisi se osvrnuo na osnovni problem - cijenu.
novosti.240mikis,
-> #236, stevicm+> Ja trenutno imam PC, al sam u dusi Amigista!!!! Definitivno prvo
+> Komodor a sad i Escom imaj totalno diletantsku politiku razvoja
+> masina! Po meni bi Amiga koju bih odmah kupio bila masina sa 68030 ili
Pa, dobar deo ovoga što si naveo Walker ispunjava - 030/40MHz (ali
obogaljen - EC, bez MMU :( ), 2 72-pinska SIMM slota (od toga u jednom 4 MB
RAM), 3.5" hard disk, EIDE kontroler, 4x IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM, odvojena
tastatura, mini tower kućište - ali malo blesavog dizajna ;) - gornji deo
kućišta se skida, zajedno sa CD ROM-om, pa se između ubacuju dodatni
drajvovi proširenja :)
Na žalost, glavna ograničenja ostaju - (spora) AGA grafika, 8
bitni zvuk (da bar ima sempler), DD flopi...
Ono čega se ja bojim je da Escom nema ni dovoljno volje ni snage da
razvija Amige u onom pravcu u kom bi trebalo. Plašim se da će buduće mašine
više ličiti na PC-je nego na sadašnje modele. Mislim, ako budemo imali
mašinu sa PowerPC procesorom, PCI magistralom, Cyber-ovo-ono grafikom (u
prevodu - grafički čipovi koji se koriste na PC-ju i novim PowerMacovima,
kao i na boljim Amiga grafičkim kartama), jedino što će takvu mašinu
razlikovati od nekog CHREP (*) klona bio bi OS - a njemu je poodavno došlo
vreme za detaljnu rekonstrukciju. Nadam se da se to neće svesti samo na
šminku tipa MUI.
Apple je imao snage za takav radikalan korak (prelazak na PPC),
videćemo da li će i Escom.
(*) CHREP = Common Hardware Reference Platform, standard za PowerPC
računare; po njemu, na istom računaru se mogu koristiti MacOS, WinNT, OS/2,
Unix... operativni sistemi.
novosti.241teorist,
-> #234, marshall
ma> Za sada - kako kaze jedan moj drugar - ako to bude bio 1 Mb CHIP-a, ali
ma> BRZOG CHIP-a, onda ce prakticno moci da se vrsi miksovanje svega i
ma> svacega u FAST-u i kopiranje u CHIP za prikaz. Sve u svemu, to ne bi
ma> bilo tako lose, ako je zaista to - brzi CHIP RAM.
Pa... ako bi bio BRZI CHIp ram.. to je OK, ali opet...
1MB je nedovoljno za 24BIT sliku u iole ozbiljnijoj rezoluciji...
Mislim da bi 2MB CHIP-a bilo minumum, ali da opciono bude proširivo
makar na 4MB ?
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registred to teorist
novosti.242teorist,
-> #236, stevicm
> masina. Ja bih istog momenta prodao svoju A1200 i kupio Walkera, samo da
> nisu stavili procesor bez MMU-a :(( Ovako, cekam da vidim sta ce se
st> Ja trenutno imam PC, al sam u dusi Amigista!!!! Definitivno prvo
st> Komodor a sad i Escom imaj totalno diletantsku politiku razvoja
I meni se čini da Escom nastavlja 'tradiciju' CBM-a :(
st> Garfika bi morala da omoguci 800x600 u 16M boja i to na standardnom
st> VGA monitoru.
E... ja bi radije da ugrade čist 24BIT u nekoj PAL/NTSC rezoluciji...
Neka ostave VGA/SVGA opcione rezolucije... ali samo da ostave PAL
rezolucije i dodaju 24BIT (a možda i 32BIT sa internim GenLockom ? ;) )
Za DTV je to neophodno... a za DTP je opet pa nužna VGA :(
Kakav je onaj novi (koliko li je sad već nov?) monitor za Amigu
koji bi trebalo da podržava i PAL i VGA rezolucije ???
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registred to teorist
novosti.243mikis,
-> #242, teorist+> I meni se čini da Escom nastavlja 'tradiciju' CBM-a :(
Nemaš pojma koliko si u pravu :( Verovatno (ni)ste čuli da je Escom
PRODAO Amigu (tj. firmu Amiga Tech.) američkoj kompaniji VIScorp. Ono što
bi trebalo da bude utešno je da novi vlasnici tvrde da su svi zaljubljenici
u Amigu (direktor softvera je bio u timu koji je pisao AmigaOS!) i da se sa
razvojem novih modela nastavlja. Inače, VIScorp je prvobitno planirao da
proizvodi 'Internet konzole' bazirane na Amiga tehnologiji, i bili su prva
firma koja je sa Escomom potpisala ugovor o licenciranju Amiga tehnologije.
Koliko je ovo dobro (ili loše) za nas videćemo, a u sledećih nekoliko
poruka možete pročitati nekoliko vesti (prenetih sa Interneta) na tu temu.
novosti.244mikis,
[ source www.amiga.de ]
VISCORP wants to buy AMIGA Technologies
VISCORP USA AND ESCOM AG ANNOUNCE LETTER OF UNDERSTANDING FOR ACQUISITION
OF AMIGA TECHNOLOGIES BY VISCORP
Heppenheim, Germany and Chicago, IL, April 12, 1996 -- ESCOM AG, a German
computer manufacturer and reseller and Visual Information Services Corp.
(Nasdaq: VICP, Bulletin Board), a developer of interactive TV (ITV)
set-top-boxes to enhance television use and viewing by providing Internet
access and electronic communications function, today jointly announced that
a binding letter of understanding has been signed between the companies.
The letter states that Chicago-based VIScorp would acquire Amiga
Technologies, including the intellectual properties of the former Commodore
Business Machines, excepted Commodore trademarks. The transaction value is
approximately US $40 million. Terms were not disclosed, and the pending
acquisition would be subject to approval by both companies' boards of
directors.
"This intended acquisition is part of VIScorp's strategy to build market
leadership in the fast-growing field of ITV", said William Buck, Chief
Executive Officer. "As a result, we would own Amiga intellectual
properties, including several that are currently used in our set top-box,
Electronic Device (EDŽ). We would also have control over the supplied chip
sets used in ED as well as Amiga inventories and access to the company's
current sales and distribution channels."
Commenting the proposed acquisition, Helmut Jost, chief executive of ESCOM
AG, said: "VIScorp has a clear vision of the Amiga technology potential for
ITV applications. We are eager to support and work together over the terms
of the letter of understanding to ensure a smooth transition between the
two companies. VIScorp anticipates the support of ongoing European sales of
popular models such as the A4000T and the A1200 as well as the current
developments and future releases of Amiga Technologies."
Petro Tyschtschenko, president of Amiga Technologies stated "I am looking
forward to being able to take advantage of the research and development
support potential that an Amiga-related company like VIScorp can
provide."
Commenting that the primary objective of the proposed acquisition is to
give VIScorp full access to the Amiga technology to support development of
its ITV device, Mr. Buck noted: "Our intention is to rapidly develop and
begin manufacturing TV set-top interactive boxes -- products that give home
users capabilities such as telephone reception and dial up capabilities,
facsimile, video games, pay-per-view options, electronic mail, and access
to on-line services, including the Internet."
More info about <A HREF="PressRelease260196.html">VIScorp</A> or from
their <A HREF="http://www.vistv.com/">Homepage</A></P>
Product names mentioned herein may be trademarks and/or registered
trademarks of their respective companies.
novosti.245mikis,
NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH
á
I am writing this here so everyone can read it as we are going to see a
fload of false shits about VISCORP/ESCOM/AT etc
áá
VISCORP USA consists of true AMIGA lovers as THEY CALL THEMSELVES. Some of
them are gurus who MADE Amiga OS itself at the first place!!!!
Their intention is to make the Super Amiga. That is the super computer of
today as Amiga was for 10 years ago when it was introduced. For the
user/market/moment, this is not going to change anything. The hardware
development will be held by the Amiga team in AT and there will be new OS
developers (among them some of those who originally made AmigaOS, that's
the first true multitasking OS for a personal computer. The different is
that AT now belongs to VISCORP USA which in turn is a company that LOVES
Amiga and yes, they have never had any PC development (remember that both
good old C= and ESCOM made Pecees) if you wonder + VISCORP USA is a very
rich and represented US company.
á
Many Amiga gurus, amoung them Dave (AMIGA) Haynie, Woody (Softwood)
Williams, Michael (SoftLogik Publishing) Lanmarc and Kermit (Nova Design,
Inc.) Woodall are very happy that VISCORP now own the AMIGA. I guess
these AMIGA developers/gurus know the market much better than the Joe
average computer user wanna be elite dude that is gonna write/spread craps
about the situation :)
á
Anything else you read anywhere else is pure craps and speculations.
that's it. Be happy
á
For your intention, I am going to include Carl (VIScorp) Sassenrath short
usenet article about the matter.
------------
From: carl@sassenrath.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: ViSCorp press release
To: rdavis@nyx.cs.du.edu
What I have been telling people is not to worry. We are all
Amiga lovers here. Unlike ESCOM or even Commodore, VIScorp
does not have a single IBM PC person in the development group.
We are all solid Amigans from the very beginning. Personally
speaking, I don't plan on killing the Amiga. In fact, I'm
hoping to build one killer Amiga!
Carl Sassenrath
Director of Software, VIScorp
URL: www.vistv.com
PS: Please feel free to post or forward this anywhere and
everywhere, as I am getting swamped with the same email
question from so many dedicated Amigans. Keep the faith!
This is for the better!
------------
á
Talking about something else, Holger Kruse of the AmiPPP, ReORG and AmiWin
fame is now beta testing 'Miami', the all new TCP/IP stack+PPP all in a
single program that creates only one IFF config file (say goodbye to the
messing with AmiTCP ;)
As you know, Holger knows how to make awesome applications and 'Miami'
won't be anything but a superior internet stack for our beloved computer.
Go register it when it is available.
á
Nova (ImageFX) Design, Inc. is now the official owner and developer of
Aladdin 4D, the premiere 3D modeling, rendering, and animation package
from Adspec Programming. Aladdin 4D new version 5.0, expected to ship
in early third quarter 1996.
á
Henrik Jensen of AmyNews fame
á
AMIGA, YOU KNOW IT RULE!!!!
áá
NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH . NEWS FLASH
@BEGIN_FILE_ID.DIZAmyLove.txt
VIScorp the TRUE Amiga LOVER company now
own the AMIGA and AT now. Read all about it
from people who KNOW what they talk about
@END_FILE_ID.DIZ
novosti.246mikis,
The following quote is from Carl Sassenrath, Director of Software for
VISorp, the company which has proposed a plan to purchase Amiga
Technologies from Escom. His comments were in answer to questions
posed to him about the future of the Amiga from CUCUG. He has made
these comments to others on the net, as well.
"What I have been telling people is not to worry. We are all Amiga
lovers here. Unlike ESCOM or even Commodore, VIScorp does not have a
single IBM PC person in the group. We are all solid Amigans from the
very beginning (for example, I developed the Amiga's Multitasking OS,
CDTV system, AmigaLogo, Bay, OptCD, ISOCD, etc.).
Personally speaking, I don't plan on killing the Amiga. In fact, if
they ask me to take over system development, you'll see one killer
Amiga!"
novosti.247mikis,
Još jedan veoma zanimljiv tekst: log-fajl "pres konferencije" koju
je na IRC-u držao Mat Bettison, novinar časopisa CU Amiga, posle Cebit
sajma, a tiče se nove Amiga mašine - Walkera.
walkrlog.lhanovosti.248mikis,
A tu su i fotografije nove mašine! Iskreno rečeno, ja sam ostao
blago šokiran ;) Ako im je to bila namera, uspeli su :)
(P.S. nadam se, ipak, da finalna mašina neće ovako izgledati ;)
walkrpic.lhanovosti.249vpoznanovic,
Amiga Report #4.06 - 23. april 1996.
ar406.lhanovosti.250marshall,
-> #237, vpoznanovic
>> Za sada - kako kaze jedan moj drugar - ako to bude bio 1 Mb CHIP-a, ali
>> BRZOG CHIP-a, onda ce prakticno moci da se vrsi miksovanje svega i
>> svacega u FAST-u i kopiranje u CHIP za prikaz. Sve u svemu, to ne bi
>> bilo tako lose, ako je zaista to - brzi CHIP RAM.
vp> Koliko god da bude brza, i dalje je to užasno mala količina memorije! Uzmi
vp> na primjer Photogenics. Ja ne mogu da zamislim rad u njemu sa 1 Mb CHIP
vp> RAM-a. A šta bi se tek desilo kad bih zajedno sa njim pokušao da pokrenem
vp> i neki WWW browser???
Exx..
Izgleda da je bila mala sarena laza..
Radi se o tome da ce to biti A1200 strpana u kuciste, sa 4 Mb FAST-a, CD
ROM-om i 030 (da li EC ili pravi 030 ne znam)..
Elem, necu nista napamet da pricam, ali.. Mislim da bi uskoro trebalo
da budem u mogucnosti da vidim Walker-a kod nas, pa cu vam reci sta,
kako, kada, itd :)))
PS : nadam se da nije ponovo neka sarena laza.. :)
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.251marshall,
-> #238, vpoznanovic
>> Ovako, čekam da vidim šta će se desiti, hoće li izaći jeftinija
>> A4000, poboljšan Walker, neka ne preterano skupa turbo kartica za
>> A1200...
...ili će na kraju Amigina tehnologija poslužiti za razvoj interaktivne
vp> televizije, kad je njen sljedeći vlasnik, VIScorp, preuzme. :((
Ex.. Cuj, to i ne bi bilo preterano lose..
Pogotovu sto VIScorp imaju love, pa nece stedeti ni na reklami ni na
razvoju (nadajmo se)..
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.252marshall,
-> #241, teorist
ma> Za sada - kako kaze jedan moj drugar - ako to bude bio 1 Mb CHIP-a, ali
ma> BRZOG CHIP-a, onda ce prakticno moci da se vrsi miksovanje svega i
ma> svacega u FAST-u i kopiranje u CHIP za prikaz. Sve u svemu, to ne bi
ma> bilo tako lose, ako je zaista to - brzi CHIP RAM.
te> Pa... ako bi bio BRZI CHIp ram.. to je OK, ali opet...
te> 1MB je nedovoljno za 24BIT sliku u iole ozbiljnijoj rezoluciji...
te> Mislim da bi 2MB CHIP-a bilo minumum, ali da opciono bude proširivo
te> makar na 4MB ?
Xex..
Odgovorio sam u nekoj od prethodnih poruka o ovome...
No, najbolje je da sacekamo da stvarno vidimo o cemu se radi.. Ja ipak
ne bih verovao tekstovima, jer kod nas svasta stize..
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.253mikis,
-> #250, marshall+> Radi se o tome da ce to biti A1200 strpana u kuciste, sa 4 Mb FAST-a, CD
+> ROM-om i 030 (da li EC ili pravi 030 ne znam)..
Nije baš tako. Kao što si mogao da vidiš iz poruka poslatih ovih
dana, u pitanju je potpuno nova mašina - sa matičnom pločom
redizajniranom tako da može da stane i u standardna PC kućišta, novim
(PC) I/O čipovima (nadam se da neće više biti CIA ;), interfejsom za
(opet) PC tastaturu... Sve u svemu, Amige će sve više i više ličiti na
PC-je (naročito eventualne PowerAmige) :(
Inače, procesor bi trebao da bude EC030/40mhz.
+> Elem, necu nista napamet da pricam, ali.. Mislim da bi uskoro trebalo
+> da budem u mogucnosti da vidim Walker-a kod nas, pa cu vam reci sta,
+> kako, kada, itd :)))
Ne bih se kladio u to ;) na CeBitu je prikazan prototip, a početak
serijske proizvodnje je bio planiran za leto/jesen ove godine. Međutim,
veliko je pitanje šta će od svega toga biti, nakon najnovijeg veselja sa
ovim Escom - Viscorp deal-om ;(
novosti.254mikis,
-> #251, marshall+> vp>...ili će na kraju Amigina tehnologija poslužiti za razvoj interaktivne
+> vp> televizije, kad je njen sljedeći vlasnik, VIScorp, preuzme. :((
+>
+> Ex.. Cuj, to i ne bi bilo preterano lose..
Zaista bi voleo da imaš nešto što je kao Sega-Mega, sa AGA čipovima,
a umesto za igre, služi za pristup Internetu, i to preko koaksijalnog
kabla (za kablovsku TV), koji ima svaka kuća u USA, a imaćemo ga i mi,
negde do 2049?
Ne poklapa se baš sa mojom vizijom Amige :(
novosti.255zealot,
HI! Evo nekog filea u vezi walker-a, ne znam da li je bio vec, valjda nije
da ne saljem bezveze...Neki intervju sa nekim<ne znam kim posto se ne zanimam
bas preterano za nove amige, posto teeeesko da cu imati love da je kupim :( >
Pozdrav by ZeaLoT / CaNCeR :)
walker.lognovosti.256marshall,
-> #253, mikis
+> Radi se o tome da ce to biti A1200 strpana u kuciste, sa 4 Mb FAST-a, CD
+> ROM-om i 030 (da li EC ili pravi 030 ne znam)..
mi> Nije bas tako. Kao sto si mogao da vidis iz poruka poslatih ovih
mi> dana, u pitanju je potpuno nova masina - sa maticnom plocom
mi> redizajniranom tako da moze da stane i u standardna PC kucista, novim
mi> (PC) I/O cipovima (nadam se da nece vise biti CIA ;), interfejsom za
Sto ?? Sta fali CIA cipovima ?? Ok, ovi ce biti bolji, mozda brzi,
itd.. Ali sta je falilo do sada ?
Mene pre interesuje da li ce moci da se nakaci neki analogni dzojstik na
Walker-a ?
mi> (opet) PC tastaturu... Sve u svemu, Amige ce sve vise i vise liciti na
mi> PC-je (narocito eventualne PowerAmige) :(
Eventualno, to je prava rec..
Ali, ipak, to i dalje ostaje A1200.. Ne verujem da ce se primetiti
znacajna razlika.. Doduse, da ne cepidlacimo... Noviji OS, brzi
procesor, neke nove mogucnosti, itd.. Paaa.. Mozda i bude nesto od
toga :)
mi> Inace, procesor bi trebao da bude EC030/40mhz.
+> Elem, necu nista napamet da pricam, ali.. Mislim da bi uskoro trebalo
+> da budem u mogucnosti da vidim Walker-a kod nas, pa cu vam reci sta,
+> kako, kada, itd :)))
mi> Ne bih se kladio u to ;) na CeBitu je prikazan prototip, a pocetak
mi> serijske proizvodnje je bio planiran za leto/jesen ove godine. Medutim,
Ex, zar ja spadam u 'serijske' tipove ? ;)
Mozda nisi u toku, kod nas se prave igre, za Amigu izmedju ostalog, pa
sam i ja u 'igri' sto bi se reklo.. Elem, jedna od pomenutih igara,
Capital Punishment (mozda si video demo) je ovih dana prodata u Londonu,
a menadzer tima, koji bi trebalo uskoro da svrne ovamo, ce, ako sve bude
kako je rekao, poneti jednog Walker-a.. Koliko sam shvatio, sve firme
koje razvijaju softver ce moci unapred (u koliko to zele) da kupe buducu
masinu..
Eto :)))
Naravno, sta ce od toga biti.. Videcemo :)
Jer, koliko sam procitao u AR406, tamo rece da postoje samo tri Walker-a
za sada (tacnije tri prototipa) i da su _skupi_ :)) No, opet, samo
prenosim sta sam cuo, a nadam se da je to tacno :)))
mi> veliko je pitanje sta ce od svega toga biti, nakon najnovijeg veselja sa
mi> ovim Escom - Viscorp deal-om ;(
Sve sto mozemo da uradimo - nadajmo se najboljem..
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.257marshall,
-> #254, mikis
+> vp>...ili ce na kraju Amigina tehnologija posluziti za razvoj interaktivne
+> vp> televizije, kad je njen sljedeci vlasnik, VIScorp, preuzme. :((
+>
+> Ex.. Cuj, to i ne bi bilo preterano lose..
mi> Zaista bi voleo da imas nesto sto je kao Sega-Mega, sa AGA cipovima,
mi> a umesto za igre, sluzi za pristup Internetu, i to preko koaksijalnog
mi> kabla (za kablovsku TV), koji ima svaka kuca u USA, a imacemo ga i mi,
mi> negde do 2049?
mi> Ne poklapa se bas sa mojom vizijom Amige :(
Ni sa mojom, svakako..
PA nisu valjda ludi da Amigu samo za INTERNET specijalizuju ??
Mislim, OK, tu valjda sad leze pare, ali.. Nek' Amiga ima te
mogucnosti, ali ne treba zanemariti ostale, zar ne ?
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.258marshall,
Hi !
Dobio sam pre neki dan jos par slika Walker-a.. Kako bi trebalo da
izgleda iznutra, recimo..
'Ocete ?
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.259mikis,
-> #256, marshall+> Sto ?? Sta fali CIA cipovima ?? Ok, ovi ce biti bolji, mozda brzi,
+> itd.. Ali sta je falilo do sada ?
Ništa, osim što su crkavali samo ako ih popreko pogledaš ;) Dobro, ovi u
A1200 su OK, ali meni je na A500 crkla CIA zato što sam isključivao štampač
dok je računar bio uključen?!? Sve u svemu, skupo i preosetljivo.
+> Mene pre interesuje da li ce moci da se nakaci neki analogni dzojstik na
+> Walker-a ?
Pa i sada možeš da priključiš analogni džojstik... uz malo truda.
Jedino što malo koja igra to podržava :(
+> Mozda nisi u toku, kod nas se prave igre, za Amigu izmedju ostalog, pa
+> sam i ja u 'igri' sto bi se reklo.. Elem, jedna od pomenutih igara,
+> Capital Punishment (mozda si video demo) je ovih dana prodata u Londonu,
+> a menadzer tima, koji bi trebalo uskoro da svrne ovamo, ce, ako sve bude
Vidiš, to nisam znao :) Pa, svaka čast, držim vam palčeve :) Btw,
lepo bi bilo da baciš taj demo ovde :)
novosti.260mikis,
-> #258, marshall+> Dobio sam pre neki dan jos par slika Walker-a.. Kako bi trebalo da
+> izgleda iznutra, recimo..
+>
+> 'Ocete ?
Glupog li pitanja... naravno da hoćemo :) Ljudi na Sezamu nikako da
nauče da je odgovor na ovakva pitanja uvek - DA ;))
BTW, ne znam za vas, ali meni se dizajn _ni najmanje_ ne sviđa...
Više liči na toster ili usisivač nego na računar ;>> Ako su želeli da
izazovu kontraverzu, uspeli su. Ali, ja bih ipak više voleo neko sexy,
pizza-box kućište, kao SGI Ingy, na primer :)
novosti.261marshall,
Hi !
Nije bas novost, ali..
Javljam povodom Aga Extendera.. Cuo sam se sa autorom, i on mi je,
izmedju ostalog, rekao da je VIScorp izgledao prilicno zainteresovan za
taj projekat, ali da nista nije konkretno povodom toga reseno.
E i jos nesto..
Predpostavljam da neki medju vama znaju, neki mozda i ne, ali domaca
firma MERIDIAN ce se, izmedju ostalog, baviti prodajom Amiga kod nas.
Zadrzao sam se neka 2 sata na njihovom standu na sajmu i lepo se
ispricao (uzeo par brosurica, nalepnica... nije vise bilo postera :((
Elem, potpisali su vec ugovore sa Phase 5, NewTek-om i AT-om oko
zastupanja tako da treba od njih, koliko mi je receno, ocekivati sve sto
budu uspeli da nabave u vezi Amige, kako hardver, tako softver..
Cene ? Pa, nisu mogli da mi kazu, posto jos nije odredjeno, ali
predpostavljam da ce biti dosta pristupacnije nego sto se inace nudi kod
nas.
Eto.. Pozdrav !
novosti.262marshall,
-> #259, mikis
+> Sto ?? Sta fali CIA cipovima ?? Ok, ovi ce biti bolji, mozda brzi,
+> itd.. Ali sta je falilo do sada ?
mi> Nista, osim sto su crkavali samo ako ih popreko pogledas ;) Dobro, ovi u
:)))))) Xexe... Kod PC-a ponekad ne smes da dises da bi radilo
kako-tako..
mi> A1200 su OK, ali meni je na A500 crkla CIA zato sto sam iskljucivao stampac
mi> dok je racunar bio ukljucen?!? Sve u svemu, skupo i preosetljivo.
Iskljucivao stampac ili konektor iz porta ?? Ako je ovo drugo, nije
cudo.. Ako je ovo prvo.. Ja sam to radio, pa A500 nije crkla.. Eto..
mi> Pa i sada mozes da prikljucis analogni dzojstik... uz malo truda.
mi> Jedino sto malo koja igra to podrzava :(
Pa mozda je bas to malo truda, sto masina _nije_ predvidjena da ima
analogni, doprinelo tome da nema ni igara ?
+> Capital Punishment (mozda si video demo) je ovih dana prodata u Londonu,
+> a menadzer tima, koji bi trebalo uskoro da svrne ovamo, ce, ako sve bude
mi> Vidis, to nisam znao :) Pa, svaka cast, drzim vam palceve :) Btw,
mi> lepo bi bilo da bacis taj demo ovde :)
E, pa 10x, valjda ce biti nesto..
Elem, jedina verzija koju smem da saljem je ona koja se vukla na nasim
bordovima.. Nezgoda je ta sto je oko 800 k arhiva.. A na 2400.. ne
ide :(
Ako uskoro dobijem (koliko vec dugo ja to pricam, a ?) 14icu, poslacu,
naravno..
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.263marshall,
-> #260, mikis
+> Dobio sam pre neki dan jos par slika Walker-a.. Kako bi trebalo da
+> izgleda iznutra, recimo..
+>
+> 'Ocete ?
mi> Glupog li pitanja... naravno da hocemo :) Ljudi na Sezamu nikako da
mi> nauce da je odgovor na ovakva pitanja uvek - DA ;))
Xexe.. Ipak, ko pita ne skita (tko ljeti - vrijedi, tko ne ljeti - ne
vrijedi !) :)))
mi> BTW, ne znam za vas, ali meni se dizajn _ni najmanje_ ne svida...
mi> Vise lici na toster ili usisivac nego na racunar ;>> Ako su zeleli da
mi> izazovu kontraverzu, uspeli su. Ali, ja bih ipak vise voleo neko sexy,
mi> pizza-box kuciste, kao SGI Ingy, na primer :)
Pa recimo da je malo _cudan_ Mozda je bas u tome fora - da ne lici ni na
jedan PC.. Videcemo :)
Ech, ali na zalost, potpuno sam zaboravio da su to JPEG slike.. LZX ix
nije ni 1% kompresovao..
No, posto ima oko 370 k, probacu da nekako prebacim u skorije vreme..
Pozdrav !
** Amiga SOR VERSION 1.0 registered to marshall
novosti.265mikis,
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Date: 13:45 9/05/96
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W A L K E R - is this the NEW CD32 for the Future
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In September of this year Amiga Technologies are to release the NEW
Amiga Walker, the rumours of the CD32 being rereleased as it is seem to
have gone out of the Window, does this mean death for the CD32.
The Walker comes with a 030 Processor which is upgradeable to a PowerPC
chip, Quad Speed CDROM, Fully Expandable, and includes an Amiga Keyboard,
is this ATs answer to the CD32?
We don't know as yet, but with the Viscorp take over with the CD32 even
be given a second thought.
More on this subject next issue, we will include comments from
Amiga Technologies themselves.
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SX32 or ProModule which shall I Buy??
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If you have seen our reviews on the Promodule and SX32, you will see the
benefits of the Promodule over the SX32, unfortunately the SX32 takes away
all chances of ever using an FMV card.
Currently the Promodule has not been given much coverage but you may access
the internet pages on it and even see some pictures.
http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/digiarts/cd32
But it does seem to be the Dream that all CD32 owners have been waiting
for.
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AGA Experience 2
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Release last month this is a real dream to all CD32 owners, you do need a
CD like Network CD to take you into Workbench 3.x and you may assign the
AGA Experience 2 CD to you system, although some demos and animations require
more than the CD32s standard memory capacity (2Mb) most of the demos and
modules
work great, this CD includes some great AGA pictures although there are NO babe
pictures on this CD, it contains animations from Babylon 5 and X-Wing... a
real cracker in my opinion.
It includes loads of Workbench and Comms software including MUI 3.3 and Magic
Workbench (ICONS, BACKDROPS etc...)
Priced at 19.99 or 14.99 depending on the company you buy from its well worthy
of a purchase.
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1. WORMS
2. ALIEN BREED 3D
3. SUBWAR (N)
4. SIMON THE SORCERER
5. PINBALL FANTASIES
6. SOCCER KID CD32
7. SENSIBLE SOCCER CD
8. SHADOW FIGHTER
9. SUPER SKIDMARKS 2
10. TOWER ASSAULT
11. THEME PARK
12. SPEEDBALL 2
13. ROADKILL
14. JUNGLE STRIKE
15. GLOOM
16. RISE OF THE ROBOTS (R)
17. SUPER STREETFIGHTER 2 TURBO
18. LIBERATION
19. BENEATH A STEEL SKY
20. MICROCOSM
(R = Re-Entry) (N = New Entry)
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NEW CD32 Full Motion Video Game in the Works
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We are currently working on a CD32 project ourselfs, it is a cross between
Doom and Lethal Enforcers. It will either be available on Disk or CD, it
will require a CD32 due to the Usage of the Akiko chip although an Akiko
emulation disk will be available to normal Amiga users.
Its the story of a Woman who is being Stalked and nobody will believe her until
its too late and she is killed most horribly eek!, you are a private eye
on the hunt for her killer you will be dragged through the dark streets of
Manchester to seek the killer...
We expect to have completed this project early 1997.
More information will be available soon, including screen shot!
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novosti.268vpoznanovic,
Evo malo dobrih vijesti... Nadam se da će ovo što skorije postati
stvarnost...
POWERUP - THE NEXT GENERATION
PHASE 5 DIGITAL PRODUCTS ANNOUNCES AN AMIGA-OS-COMPATIBLE COMPUTER FOR 1997
Amazing hardware project from phase 5 digital products
PowerUP project continues to make progress
Motorola appreciates the concept of phase 5
Technology demonstrations
phase 5 digital products on the situation of Amiga Technologies
About phase 5 digital products
Oberursel, May 1996: Oberursel, May 1996: According to the plans of
phase 5 digital products, Oberursel near Frankfurt, Germany, the
coming year, 1997, will be a year of joy for all Amiga enthusiasts. As
an expansion of the PowerUp project, which involves developing PowerPC
processor cards for existing Amiga models, the company has announced
that an independent Amiga OS-compatible computer system will be
available in the first six months of 1997, representing a revolution
on the computer market.
"We will continue to give our full support to the Amiga idea because
as we were among the first Amiga users we continue to believe in the
advantages and superior concepts of the Amiga", says Wolf Dietrich,
Managing Director of phase 5 digital products. "However, it is high
time for a radical leap forwards in technology that needs to be borne
by a vision of a computer for the next millennium. We have seen too
many half-hearted efforts in the last few years."
In the view of Gerald Carda, Technical Director at phase 5, it is
necessary to take a step towards complete innovation in order to
realise such a vision. "Concepts that build up on the standard
components of the PC world never offer the scope that give a computer
system the lead that the Amiga 1000 had over other systems 12 years
ago."
In line with this philosophy, the new computer will be based on a
highly integrated Custom Chip design which, as a central functional
unit, will enable the system to achieve a hitherto unknown
performance. "We will demonstrate the possibilities that are inherent
in the resolute and single-minded pursuit of a new development that
does not become submerged in the mainstream of adaptation to the
Wintel world and the general tendency towards economy in the PC mass
market which more or less throttles innovation for the sake of saving
one single dollar", continues Gerald Carda. Despite this, the system
now being announced is not intended to become a dream machine in the
high price category. In the words of Wolf Dietrich: "On the basis of
our current price calculation we will be able to offer unusually good
value for money for which our products for the Amiga market are
already renowned."
It is actually true that the extremely high degree of integration and
the realisation of novel concepts will make it possible to achieve a
performance that explodes existing bounds. Based on the PowerPC as the
main processor, the new computer, in addition to the high performance
of the processor, offers hardware support for multimedia (MPEG) and 3D
functions, while even the basic system offers a resolution of
1600x1200 pixels at 24-bit color depth and a refresh rate of 72 Hz. At
the same time special functions for image and video effects have been
implemented in the hardware. In addition there are audio inputs and
outputs in stereo CD quality, a video-compatible and Genlock-capable
24-bit video output and an FBAS/S-VHS video input. Along with the
usual interfaces, the system is rounded off by a Fast SCSI-II
controller, a network interface and an ISDN interface. With these
features a complete system with a 120 MHz 603e PowerPC, 16 MByte
memory, a SCSI hard disk of 1 GB and a quad-speed CD ROM will be
available for a purchase price of around 3,000 DM (1,400 ú or 2,000
US$, respectively) on the basis of the present market prices for the
components. "We hope that in just about one year from now we will even
be able to offer a 150 to 166 MHz 603e-processor at this price",
anticipates Wolf Dietrich. "In terms of performance the processor has
no problems in keeping up with a Pentium processor with an equally
fast clock. However, there is no sign of any comparable graphic
performance anywhere the PC field and the features of our systems will
be difficult to match." There will be a similar system available with
a PowerPC 604-e processor and 150 MHz for about 4,000 DM (1,800 ú or
2,700 US$, respectively).
Although phase 5 digital products state that the total concept for the
system has already been under development for quite some time and has
practically been concluded, it is not possible to publish a more exact
description of the system features at the present point in time. "At
the moment we are intensively concerned with looking into whether it
would be worth applying for a patent for any of the concepts we have
developed and, if so, for which. So unfortunately we are not able to
publish more precise details of the concept until after this process
has been concluded and we have possibly applied for protection by
patent", says Gerald Carda. For this reason we cannot reckon with any
publication of the full system specifications until the end of June.
Not only the hardware concept of phase 5, but also the software
approach comes as a surprise. The new computer system will be supplied
with a completely new operating system written in Native PowerPC code,
but with binary compatibility with Amiga-OS 3.x. Here Gerald Carda has
the following comments: "As we are already developing an
Amiga-compatible PowerPC-Exec with an expansion library and a PowerPC
CyberGraphX version in the context of the PowerUp developments, it is
the logical consequence that the next step will be the innovative
development of the other components. An operating system that is
compatible with Amiga-OS 3.x makes it possible for the user to
continue to use the existing software that can run under CyberGraphX,
while developers who already give massive support to CyberGraphX will
be able to continue to maintain and develop their products at the
present level. In this way we will be enabling Amiga users to switch
to the new system without any problems." "In addition", continues
Gerald Carda, "we will be opening up ways of making considerable
improvements in the internal structure and extensive additions to the
scope of functions". Besides the 24-bit support which has already
become a standard due to CyberGraphX, Gerald Carda names the coming
CyberGraphX 3D and multimedia interface as an example. There will also
be an optimisation of the system's performance and a revision and
adaptation of the user interface in line with the functional and
optical state of the art. "For years Amiga-OS has represented the
conceptual realisation of ideas that today are propagated by many to
be special innovations. This means that reprogramming will make it
possible to achieve a really highly powered and modern OS. Of course
our system will also be open for other operating systems or
emulations, such as MacOS or an X-Windows link-up. The discussion
concerning so-called new operating systems, however, was intended more
as marketing hype than as a realistic alternative."
The commitment with which phase 5 digital products will force forward
this project is reflected not least in the considerable volume of
investment that has been made in the development. "By the middle of
1997 we will have invested seven-digit figures in this project", says
Wolf Dietrich. "We have the know-how, the development team, the
technical equipment, the support from third parties (especially
Motorola) and the financial basis for this project. The only thing
that we still need is massive and positive support from the Amiga user
basis. With this early disclosure of our objectives we expect to
receive the anticipated response from the users, for, after all, such
a project only makes sense if there is still a large number of
convinced Amiga fans. We therefore appeal to all Amiga fans to write
to us, to send us faxes or to contact us via E-mail (under the address
specially set up for this purpose: aproject@phase5.de ). Every
positive reaction will strengthen this forward-looking project."
PowerUP project continues to make progress
The PowerUp project also continues to make progress. "The delivery of
the developer PowerPC boards will now start in summer", says Gerald
Carda. "Unfortunately, we are a few months behind in our schedule due
to extensive discussions between Motorola, Amiga Technologies and
phase 5. These companies were to agree on a close cooperation and
clarify a number of matters, especially with regard to new standards
specific to the new PowerPC. After the discussion concerning a
takeover by VIScorp started and the wave or redundancies that directly
followed at Amiga Technologies, which led to most of the contact
persons who had been involved in the projects leaving the company, AT
abandoned the present cooperation. For this reason we will waste no
further time and will continue with our project on our own, which was
the way in which we started it. Nor can we wait any longer to see what
VIScorp might possibly intend or not intend."
The support for external developers in the PowerUp program is now
complete. More than 250 developers - including practically all noted
commercial software suppliers in the Amiga field - are registered and
their numbers are growing every day. This alone is evidence of the
strong support for the future Amiga-compatible PowerPC platform. As
from the second half of May, the registered users will now be able to
order the PowerPC Beta developer boards from phase 5 which mean the
green light for the hot phase of the world-wide software development.
Motorola appreciates the concept of phase 5
In the realisation of their new, innovative computer system phase 5
will be fully supported by Motorola. "We appreciate the powerful and
innovative concept that phase 5 represents and we fully support the
efforts of this company as a partner in our global PowerPC strategy."
says John Letham, European Technical Marketing Manager, Motorola RISC
Microprocessors. "We have had a number of joint meetings now and we
are impressed by the know-how and vision that is the basis of phase
5š's driving force."
Technology demonstrations
In close cooperation with Motorola phase 5 is preparing technology
demonstrations, to be shown in due course, which will demonstrate the
impressive capabilities of the next generation of PowerPC 603e CPUs at
significantly increased clock rates. This programme is already
underway and Summer of 1996 will see phase 5 present prototypes of
PowerPC boards for Amiga 3000/4000 as well as for the Apple Macintosh
7500/8500/9500 series. "With the presentation of these new processors,
Motorola as a leading semiconductor manufacturer clearly illustrates
their capabilities demonstrating exactly why the next generation of
PowerPC CPUs will hold the pole position in the microprocessor
performance race". says Wolf Dietrich of phase 5. "Our computer
system, when shipping next year, will also offer these extremely fast
processors, delivering true high-end workstation performance. The
higher speed of the CPUs will also deliver a performance increase to
the upgrade boards for existing Amiga systems." With the presentation
of this PowerPC technology demo on Apple MacIntosh system phase 5
digital products announces their entry into the MacIntosh accelerator
market. This new branch of their operation will make additional use of
the PowerPC know-how that is been build up in the Amiga development,
while for both the Amiga and the MacIntosh PowerPC products an even
more attractive pricing can be realized due to the higher quantity
demands of PowerPC processors
phase 5 digital products on the situation of Amiga Technologies
In addition to this project announcement, phase 5 also made some side
remarks on the current state of affairs with regard to Amiga
Technologies. "To our regret we found that Amiga Technologies offers
us no sort of outlook or basis for developing into the future", says
Wolf Dietrich. "The first year of Amiga Technologies was marked by a
continued chain of wrong decisions which have been responsible for the
bad situation in which the company now finds itself. The results must
be adequate to the objectives set in the spring of 1995 and in this
respect they are more than disappointing. There is no getting away
from this. In fact the same mistakes were made that were previously
made at Commodore and partly by the same people. For example, attempts
continue to keep technically outdated products on the market at
unrealistic prices, which is particularly true in the case of the
A4000T. Another point is that the marketing concepts are completely
outdated, there is an absence of any kind of futuristic vision and a
lack of any independent development, which is so pronounced that today
AT neither has any 68060 technology to show for itself nor even a sign
of any PowerPC technology. The brief spark of any independent
development was extinguished again by the latest wave of redundancies.
In this respect the only thing that we can just about expect from AT
is that they sell off their large quantities of existing stock. These
do give us some cause to hope that the existing products will be on
the market for a while and that, in due course, they will be offered
at more realistic prices. Finally, the only thing that can be said
about the activities of AT is: They should have asked someone who
knows his stuff."
In the opinion of phase 5 a takeover of Amiga Technologies by VIScorp
does not awaken hope of any major innovations or any strengthening of
the Amiga system. "So far we have heard nothing from VIScorp that
would cause us to assume that anything different is being planned than
the exploitation of the Amiga technology in a settop box. Nor do we
see why this company, which must certainly concentrate all its efforts
on realising its settop projects, should be interested in further
pursuing the primary aim of continuing with the Amiga system. If this
had been the case, it would already have been quite feasible for
VIScorp to initiate such a project as a licensee of the Amiga
technology." phase 5 sees this critical opinion confirmed by current
events. "The actions of VIScorp do not convince us that they are
serious in continuing with the Amiga. So far, for example, VIScorp has
not directly spoken to the developers who were the last to support the
Amiga. Nor was there any reaction when we tried to make contact. The
VIScorp meeting in Toulouse that has now been announced lacks any kind
of organisation and was called without there being any recognisable
concept behind it. For this reason it is more than doubtful whether
even a sign of any constructive result can be expected to come out of
it, so that in our view it would be a pure waste of time to attend, as
we have repeatedly found in the recent year at ESCOM meetings. We
don't need a repeat of that." Let it be mentioned in passing that the
hope often expressed in the general discussion, i.e. that in VIScorp
Amiga will find itself taken over by a company that will finance the
development of a new generation of Amiga products more or less from
the petty cash, is something that Wolf Dietrich considers to be very
optimistic. "For a start we had exactly the same expectations a year
ago when everyone thought that the giant ESCOM would get things moving
at Amiga from a standing position and quickly produce a new generation
of Amiga computers for a more competitive price. Secondly we should
first wait and see whether the figures that have been bandied about in
the discussion concerning VIScorp's takeover of AT have any sort of
real fundament."
About phase 5 digital products
phase 5 digital products, based in Oberursel near Frankfurt, are
internationally operating manufacturers of hardware and software
products. The company is entirely owned by its founders, Gerald Carda
and Wolf Dietrich. Since the market launch of its first product line
in 1992 this company, which consists of an experienced team of the
first Amiga users and developers, quickly established itself as one of
the leading manufacturers in the Amiga market. Since 1992 its products
have been distinguished many times, including 20 awards for Product of
the Year in Amiga journals. In 1995 phase 5 supplied accessories to
the value of some DM 12 million (5.5 million ú or 8 million US$) in
the Amiga market alone. Since the Christmas season of 1995 almost
30,000 hardware products have been delivered. The product portfolio
for Amiga includes accelerator cards, SCSI controllers and graphics
cards. In these fields phase 5 digital products has repeatedly proved
itself to be manufacturer that is a forerunner and an innovative
leader, for instance in bringing out the first Zorro III-DMA-SCSI
controller world-wide, the Fastlane Z3, in producing the first 68030
card world-wide with a DMA-SCSI controller for the Amiga 1200, in
offering the first 68060 card world-wide for Amiga systems (the
Cyberstorm 060/50 for A4000), in manufacturing the first 64-bit
graphics card world-wide with full system-integrated 24-bit support
(the CyberVision64 for A3000/A4000) or in bringing out the first 68060
card for the A1200 world-wide, the Blizzard 1260. Along with intensive
development activities as a Beta developer for Motorola in the 68060
and PowerPC field, hardware developments at phase 5 include pure
research work in the field of multimedia high-performance DSPs and in
the latest development department ASE (advanced silicon engineering)
VLSI chip design. An expanding team of some 20 staff is currently
working on these projects at the company's headquarters in Oberursel
on premises covering an area of 960 square metres. In the adjoining
service area, which covers an area of almost 600 square metres, the
company, as from August 96, will be producing hardware products -
including the new PowerPC products - in its own, highly modern
manufacturing plant using the most recent manufacturing techniques.
Contact:
phase 5 digital products
In der Au 27
61440 Oberursel, Germany
Intl. Phone: +49 6171 583787
Intl.Fax: +49 6171 583789
Email: mail@phase5.de oder: aproject@phase5.de
novosti.269vpoznanovic,
Amiga Report #4.07 - 18. maj 1996.
ar407.lhanovosti.270ldjordje,
Bio sam u MERIDIAN Co. i tip koji tamo radi, dao mi je
cene koje su mu trenutno poznate ...
- BLIZZARD 1230-IV, 50Mhz, MMU, bez koprocesora - 395 DEM
- MOTOROLA 68882, 50Mhz koprocesor za 1230-IV - 195 DEM
- BLIZZARD 1260 - MOTOROLA 68060, 50Mhz, FPU - 1550 DEM
- BLIZZARD SCSI kit - IV za 1260 i 1230 - 240 DEM
Monitori:
- AMIGA M 1438S 14", high resolution from video to VGA e.g.
800x600 pixels at 60hz, stereo amplifier and loudspeaker - 650 DEM
- AMIGA M 1538S 15", high resolution: e.g. 800x600 pixels
at 60hz, 23-Pin-AMIGA Monitor connector, stereo amplifier
and loudspeaker - 780 DEM
- AMIGA M 1764 17", high resolution: e.g. 1024x768 pixels
at 75hz, 15-Pin-VGA-monitor-connector by adapter (incl.) up
to 23-Pin AMIGA monitor connector, On-screen-display for
adjustment, powermanagment to save energ. if the monitor
is out of use - 1800 DEM
novosti.272ldjordje,
Mikis je rekao da ovo može u Conf. pa evo poslao sam ... ;)
Inače vi koji ste u Beogradu, obavezno navratite do njih,
vredi pogledati AMIGU 4000, 68040 na 25 Mhz, sa CyberStorm-om,
1.6 giga hardom, monitorom osetljivim na dodir i par
prezentacija koje su uradjene sa njom !!! :))))
Ja sam pokupio par kataloga ... i tip mi je rekao da sve živo
što postoji za AMIGU, uključujući i sve modele AMIGA može da
se naruči preko njih po cenama malo višim od Nemačkih ...
One cene koje sam naveo su orijentacione sa max. 10% posku-
pljenja, što onaj tip ne veruje da će se desiti, štaviše
imaće tendenciju opadanja i to ne simboličnog! :)
Od juna počinju sa isporukama - može da se plaća i preko
računa ...
Pozdrav od Djoleta ... :)
novosti.273ldjordje,
Report:VISCORP meeting, 19th may Toulouse.
Freely distributable (you can write it in better English if you don't
change the sense).
I promise that i will do it for the people who were angry about the
fact that it was in France and who said they could not come.
My English is very bad, i have to practise a lot so you have to make
efforts to understand me.
I may have misunderstood some-things but i think i caught the most part
of this conference. Perhaps there may
be a few mistakes.
Thank you to my girlfriend Christine who helped me in the translation.
The people from ESCOM who were present are:
- Bill Buck (president), Don Gilbreath (CDTV), CARL Sassenrath (EXEC),
David Rosen, Raquel Velasco (very pretty)
Eric Laffont (Consultant in France for Viscorp), Petro Tyschtschenko
(president of Amiga Technologie).
The program was:
8h00-10h30 VISCORP conference
10h45-12h30 Consulting Internet report
14h30-16h00 FORUM DEVELOPERS, USERS, RETAILERS, DISTRIBUTORS, PRESS
16h15-17h15 Press conference
17h30 Coktail
Bill Buck has opened the conference.
He said that Viscorp wanted to go on supporting and selling Amigas.
He added that in 1997 there would be more Amiga sold as there are ever
been.
Viscorp will support Amiga clones like Draco and Phase5 computer.
Bill buck has received more than 2000 e-mails, so he said he was sorry
that he could not answer to all the people .
The Walker project was not possible before the end of the year, so it's
aborted.
There will be a new OS before the end of the year which will integrate
networks.
It will be provided with TCP/IP, PPP, SLIP, FTP, SMTP ...
RISCs projects are maintained but VISCORP is more thinking of the
Digital ALPHA processor than of the PPC.
Bill Buck has showed us the ED Set Top Box).
It was not the new one with Amiga chipset but a 3 years old one.
You operate it by a remote control. There are 2 faces: 1 for the
control ,another one for a mini keybord.
It works on TV. You have to clic on a graphic menu to choose what you
want to do:
My directory, Info lines, go online, gameroom, pay for view and a
setup.
You can record the people you are communicating with.
You can use Compuserve services (forum, info ...).
You can send FAX, internet E-Mails.
Ed is genlocked so that you can see video behind the ED display.
There is a system that enables you to pay with credit cards.
Interactive TV (you watch the film you want) was not available (you
need cable).
There will be a Web browser.
VISCORP showed us the prototype of the new ed main board with Amiga
chipsets.
It is based on 68EC20 like A1200 (it may change).
There are 4Mb Fast RAM, 2 Mo CHIP.
You can add a keyboard to it(they have to decide if its an Amiga or PC
keyboard).
Viscorp will keep floppy & hardrive controlers on this board.
The OS includes all networks capabilities (also a browser).
They want to increase AGA power.
ED could be sold by Telecom companies.
ED is able to handle ISA CARDS ???, Tuner, cable, MPEG, CDROM,
Ethernet, ISDN, DVD, DBS.
The Internet report showed that:
There are Amigafans all around the world:
22% USA
37% West Europea
8% EST Europea
5% ASIA
6% Australia
1% Africa
The Amiga fans said:
1:Don't let us down.
2:I like my Amiga.
3:I will buy a new Amiga if it stays an AMIGA.
4:They don't want to devellop for ed if they don't have new Amigas
5:They can spend their money for an Amiga that beats PCs.
Their Wishes:
1:Hardware to be more powerful.
2:AGA improvement.
3:good prices.
About Phase5:
VISCORP said they tried to contact them but Phase5 didn't answer.
About actual Amigas:
There are still in production. They will be sold until the next Amiga
generation.
I was at the devellopers forum:
The main questions and wishes were:
- CE approval?
- When ED available?
- When 1200 available for UK?
- Who will write the new OS.
- What tools for PowerPC.
- Standard libraries tools.
- Object oriented standard tool for GUI/IFF.
Members of Viscorp took into account these questions and will respond
in a near future.
They said that they would put RKM 3.1 on the net (via Viscorp site).
It will be translated in many languages.
An effort will be made for an object oriented standard tool for GUI and
IFF.
VISCORP insisted on the way that new Amigas had to exist because ED
devellopers will use Amigas.
They said that if you develloped a software or a game that would be
used for ED you would gain money
each time your software were used.
They showed us a 68060 board (for 4000T) that they would sold (I don't
know if it is alone or with A4000T).
Unofficial news & rumors:
There will be a middle range Amiga (not '30, not '40, so let me think
about '60).
For that project VISCORP is trading with Micronik.
The Alpha Amiga (300Mhz model) will be sold for less than 4000US$.
The AGA power should be increased by 3 or more.
People thought:
The people who were here was divided.
Some of them thought that Viscorp was a great thing for Amiga future.
The others said that Viscorp would only support ED or that ED could be
a commercial mistake like CDTV.
AT has components for 1 million (1200, 4000) Amigas, so they have to
sold them quickly before the next generation (good side) or perhaps
before nothing (bad side).
IRC
There was a "live" IRC during the meeting.
The person who was typing was someone had been taken in the crowd.
Sometimes Carl has took her place.
I don't know if this IRC has been published on the net.
Surprise !!!
An user came with his A1200 + 1260 board.
He has changed the 50 Mhz oscillator for a 64Mhz one.
It has been working for 3 months without any bugs.
My 60@50 Mhz has 92000 Dhrystones (AIBB test with 68000 code), his one
has 118000 !!!
(Don't forget that in Motorola's specs P90 has 75000 (checkit give the
same result) and 68060 has 210000(=optimised code)
He will try soon to put a 80Mhz oscillator (=150000 Dhrystones).
Bill Buck ended the conference saying that "Viscorp will support
Amiga".
Hope for ALPHA and PPC powerfull AMIGAs !!!
Christophe Decanini.
novosti.274ldjordje,
Upravo sam preko Gophera na EUnet-u saznao da se više ne dele novi nalozi i
da EUnet u toku sledeće dve nedelje prestaje sa probnim radom ...
YU.eunet.faq i ostale YU.eunet.* konferencije više ne postoje, ostaju
"samo" Internet konferencije a sva pitanja se postavljaju direktno preko
Mail-a na useradm@eunet.yu. Preko sredstava informisanja :) će nas obavestiti
o cenama itd. Ostale YU konferencije su trenutno isključene do poboljšanja
komunikacija sa ostalim YU sistemima. Korisnici koji imaju naloge na EUnetu
mogu i dalje da ih koriste ...
Pozdrav od Djoleta ... :)
novosti.275ldjordje,
Bill Buck-ov govor u Tuluzu ...
speech.lhanovosti.276ldjordje,
Nisam siguran da li ste ovo već videli
ali valjda mi opraštate O:)
DraCo technical information
Audio Inputs/Outputs: RCA are standard, Optional XLR
Audio Hardware: DAT quality stereo audio
Digital Audio Sampling: 16 bits/48kHz
Video Inputs/Outputs: Composite, S-Video are standard
Optional Component, Uncompressed Digital,
Compressed Digital (Firewire DV Standard)
Compression Algorithm: Motion JPEG
Compression Range: Selectable from 2:1 - 50:1
Maximum Data Rate: 10 MB per second with SCSI II
Graphics Modes: From 320 x 240 to 1600 x 992
Video Standard: NTSC or PAL
Image Resolution: CCIR 601 standard 720 x 480
MovieShop(TM): Sophisticated, easy-to-use and powerful package
Near Real-Time DVE's: Optional DEC Alpha Co-Processor for
near real-time rendering
All of It
CPU/Speed: Motorola MC 68060: 50 MHz
Optional DEC Alpha rendering co-processor: 233 MHz
Operating Systems: Amiga OS standard, Mac OS via ShapeShifter
All PC OS via PC board option, Net BMD UNIX
Memory: 8MB Standard 72 pin SIMMS
Expandable to 128MB on board
Case: Tower
SCSI Ports: Fast SCSI II - 6 Internal, 1 External
External Interfaces: SCSI II, Serial, Parallel, Mouse, Keyboard, RCA or XLR
audio, Composite and S-Video, optional
breakout for other video inputs/outputs
Internal Interfaces: 6 SCSI II
Internal Slots: Passive backplane with 2 for the DraCo board, 3 DraCo direct,
2 PCI slots, and 3 16-bit slots
Internal Drive Bays: 6 horizontal 5.25" full height 4 horizontal 5.25" half
height
Disk Drives: 4x CD ROM, HD Floppy
Mouse: 3 button opto-mechanical
Keyboard: Detachable 101 key
Power Supply: Switchable: 110/220
Software Included: MovieShop, AmigaDOS 3.1, XiPaint, ADPro,
MorphPlus, CyberGraphix
Suggested Retail: $8,995
$10,995 with 1GB System Drive & 4GB Video Drive
ę1996, DraCo Systems, Inc.
Phone: 303.499.1975
Fax: 303.499.1979
Technical Support: 303.447.8126
Email: draco-info@draco.com
novosti.277stevicm,
-> #272, ldjordje> Ja sam pokupio par kataloga ... i tip mi je rekao da sve zivo
> sto postoji za AMIGU, ukljucujuci i sve modele AMIGA moze da
> se naruci preko njih po cenama malo visim od Nemackih ...
Ajde daj njihov telefon, ili napisi cene Amiga.
novosti.278ldjordje,
Evo, Amiga report 4.08 ...
ar408.lhanovosti.279sazalakazu,
Dobar dan, eto mene opet na Sezamu... Htedoh da pitam da li neko ima
program za pomoc pri stimovanju gitare za Amigu, narafski...?
Hvala.
novosti.280mikis,
amiCrawler Search Engine
amiCrawler is a World Wide Web based search engine which contains Amiga
related web sites and files. Users with a World Wide Web browser may
visit amiCrawler, and view the newest sites, cool sites, and news
headlines.
>From the Files section, you can search for internet related
applications such as AmiTCP or browsers, and you can view their
associated README files, see sample screenshots, and view the contents
of compressed archives. You may select most files to be downloaded from
over 30 FTP sites around the world.
Also included is an AMINET search function, where you can search over
28,000 files on AMINET and select which FTP server you wish to download
from.
Visit amiCrawler at http://www.melizo.com/area52/amicrawler/search.cgi.
David Tiberio - amiCrawler moderator
dtiberio@pb.net
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novosti.281mikis,
TITLE
Yak -- multi-purpose commodity
VERSION
2.12
AUTHORS
Philippe Bastiani, Gael Marziou and Nick Christie.
E-mail address: philippe.bastiani@ramses.fdn.org
DESCRIPTION
Yak stands for "Yet Another Kommodity" (never was any good at
spelling), and is a mouse/window manipulation program along the
same lines as MCP, MagicCX and lets you activating screens
and windows, inserting localized date.
FEATURES
A lot! Among them : AutoActivation of windows, extensible hotkey
system (like FKey's) with a lot of different actions
NEW FEATURES
(* = new feature)
* Added "Digital Clock" feature
* New hotkey action: "Iconify Window"
* New method for screen blanking: "PowerSave"
* Now, "UNIX Root" tries to resolve conflicts between amigados
and UNIX paths.
- Now, when using "DMA Blanker", if "Black border" is off Yak opens a
black screen, DMA blanks and then close the black screen. This way the
display is black.
- Tooltypes are now read even when Yak is started from CLI.
- Sprite mouse blanking method rewritten.
SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS
OS release 2.04 or newer is required; Yak has been tested with
OS releases through 3.1.
Distribution is archived with lha so program to un-archive them
is needed.
Amigaguide or Multiview is required to easily read documentation.
Installer is required to easily install Yak.
AVAILABILITY
Yak is available from Aminet, e.g.:
ftp://ftp.netnet.net/pub/aminet/util/cdity/Yak212.lha (225319 bytes)
and on mirrors
The source of Yak is also available from Aminet, e.g.:
ftp://ftp.netnet.net/pub/aminet/util/cdity/Yak212Src.lha (223176 bytes)
PRICE
There is no charge for use of this software.
DISTRIBUTABILITY
Freely distributable as long as the contents of the archive
are kept intact.
OTHER
E-mail address for bug reports and fixes:
philippe.bastiani@ramses.fdn.org
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novosti.282sazalakazu,
*** BUDITE HUMANI ***
Fond Underground! BBS-a :)
Doslo je do teske havarije na sistemskom
disku Underground! BBS-a. Da bi se BBS, a i
kompjuter uopste osposobio, potreban je 3.5" disk
sa najmanje 300 mb praznog, radi backupa i
formatiranja diska. Kao nagrada, jedino sto SysOp
moze dati je snimanje *svega i svacega* sa BOARDA.
--------------------------------------------------
Vi ste jedina nada da se spase jedan Amiga BBS,
koji supportuje Amiga scenu vec 2 godine. HELP!
--------------------------------------------------
U napred zahvalni...
kING'n'oGISHA (Uros & Ognjen Nedeljkovic)
novosti.283sazalakazu,
+------------------------------------------+
| Read This! |
| Firma Meridian (BG) je postala zvanicni |
| zastupnik AT proizvoda na teritoriji YU |
+------------------------------------------+
| Ova anketa sluzi da se ispita stanje na |
| Amiga trzistu i da se vidi sta dalje.. |
+------------------------------------------+
anketa.txtnovosti.284mikis,
Gledam sad, i ne mogu da verujem - nije moguće da nije poslat AR ni
4.08 ni 4.09... Možda nisam video dobro, al evo ih opet :)
---
Amiga Report #4.09, June 30, 1996
ar409.lhanovosti.285mikis,
-> #284, mikis+> Gledam sad, i ne mogu da verujem - nije moguće da nije poslat AR ni
+> 4.08 ni 4.09... Možda nisam video dobro, al evo ih opet :)
Ipak nisam dobro video - bar za AR4.08. Bio je u temi komunikacije,
sad je prebačen u novosti (poruka 1.278).
novosti.286mikis,
Kao da je Amiga ukleta... I ESCOM je otišao pod bankrot! Evo najnovije
vesti o tome, skinuto Amiga Web Dir-a:
---
Escom Files for Bankruptcy
July 15, 1996 (CUCUG) - According to the Associated Press, Escom
announced today that it would indeed file for actual bankruptcy rather
than the restructuring reported earlier. Other press accounts have
quoted internal sources at Escom which stated that the picture did not
look as if they could actually pull off a court-supervised debt
restructuring and would probably be forced into actual bankruptcy.
Today, a German, court-appointed administrator aggreed with that
assesment, deciding that Escom had little capital to even make it
through talks with its creditors.
The AP reported that this does not mean the end of Escom and that
they could still shake off their current woes with a new influx of
investor capital. However, as we reported earlier, Escom has already
tried that in weeks past with little success.
Escom's troubles began last year when new competition from
off-shore producers like Acer lowered prices and demand for PCs in
Europe weakened, bloating inventories and draining much-needed cash.
---
Nadajmo se da i VisCopr neće doživeti istu sudbinu...
novosti.287mikis,
-> #286, mikis Ovome je prethodila jedna vest o istrazi zbog špekulisanja deonicama:
---
Escom Stock Trading Under Investigation
July 10, 1996 (CUCUG) - One more potential piece of bad news for
Germany's Escom, the soon-to-be-former owner of Amiga Technologies, hit
the wires recently. Reuters is now reporting that the company is under
investigation for possible insider trading by Germany's Securities
Trading Supervisory Office. In the few days prior to Escom's
announcement of their intentions to file for protection from creditors
last Wednesday, July 3, the German oversight agency (similar to the
Securities and Exchange Commision in the US) noted a "suspicious" surge
of sell-off trading of Escom shares.
Anke Reeh-Schild, a GTTSO spokesperson told Reuters, "The turnover seen
was very suspicious in comparison with previous levels," and went on to
note that the increase was eight to nine times higher than usual.
The investigation could take months to determine any wrong doing,
though, as data on all transactions and bank records must be analyzed.
No Escom officials are named in the investigation.
novosti.288ljubinko,
-> #286, mikis
> Kao da je Amiga ukleta... I ESCOM je otisao pod bankrot! Evo najnovije
Amigi je (kao i Atariju) odavno lose krenulo.
(Izgleda da cemo morati da je napustamo ?)
novosti.289mikis,
Jedna preporuka za WWW site: www.adx.de. Pogledajte cene hardvera i
softvera u Nemačkoj... Jedan mali primer:
Turbokarten
Artikelbezeichnung Preis
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Cyberstorm Turbokarten fuer A3000/A4000
Cyberstorm MK II mit MMU/FPU mit 50 MHz 060 DM 1270,--
Cyberstorm Fast SCSI-II DMA Controller fuer MK II DM 209,--A
Cyberstorm Fast Wide SCSI-II DMA Controller fuer MK II DM 308,--A
Cyberstorm Fast SCSI-II DMA Controller fuer Cyberstorm DM 358,--A
Blizzard Boards fuer A1200
Blizzard 1230 IV Turbo Board (fuer A1200) 030 mit
50 MHz mit MMU DM 309,--
Blizzard 1230 IV Turbo Board (fuer A1200) 030 mit
50 MHz mit MMU und 4 MB 60ns DM 369,--
Blizzard 1230 IV Turbo Board (fuer A1200) 030 mit
50 MHz mit MMU und 8 MB 60ns DM 429,--
Blizzard 1230 IV Turbo Board (fuer A1200) 030 mit
50 MHz mit MMU und 16 MB 60ns DM 529,--
Blizzard 1230 IV Turbo Board (fuer A1200) 030 mit
50 MHz mit MMU und 32 MB 60ns DM 789,--
Coprozessor fuer Blizzard 1230 IV 882-50 MHz DM 179,--
Blizzard 1260 Turbo Board 060-50 MHz m. FPU/MMU DM 1209,--
Blizzard SCSI Kit IV fuer Blizzard
1260 und 1230 IV (fuer A1200) DM 209,--
Blizzard Board fuer A2000
Blizzard 2060 Turbo Board (fuer A2000)
060-50 MHz m. FPU/MMU
SCSI-II mit 4 MB Speicher (Simm PS2 60 ns 32 Bit) DM 1379,--
Blizzard 2060 Turbo Board (fuer A2000)
060-50 MHz m. FPU/MMU
SCSI-II mit 16 MB Speicher (Simm PS2 60ns 32 Bit) DM 1539,--
Blizzard 2060 Turbo Board (fuer A2000)
060-50 MHz m. FPU/MMU
SCSI-II mit 32 MB Speicher ( Simm PS2 60 ns 32Bit DM 1749,--
Wildfire 060 mit 50 MHz DM 2449,--A
Turbokarten fuer A1200
A = Vorankuendigung durch den Hersteller
noch nicht lieferbar.
---
Ako vas još nešto zanima, a nemate pristup Webu - pitajte :)
novosti.290mikis,
Nije naročito novo, ali je veoma zanimljivo:
Amiga Report Technical Journal - Volume 1, Issue 1 (04/07/95)
Odličan e-magazin u AmigaGuide formatu, za sve Amiga profesionalce :) Neke od
tema u ovom broju:
Conferences
The Amiga-OS Project
Features
RobR takes us into the Heart of Installer, part one in the series.
Methods to the Madness, a guide to BOOPSI authoring, from Chris Aldi.
Revision Control and SMAKE under SAS/C by Osma Ahvenlampi, with an example.
Church Windows, reprinted without permission from comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
novosti.291mandic,
-> #286, mikisJA SAM IMAO A1200 I MORAO SAM DA JE NAPUSTIM PRE 9 MESECI ZBOG SVIH PROBLEMA
SA OVOM FIRMOM. SAD IMAM 486/100 I KAZEM VAM LJUDI AMIGA JE NAJBOLJA ,
SAMO DA SE OPORAVI I JA SE VRACAM AMIGI ISTOG SEKUNDA , ALI ZASAD NEZNAM ,
CRNO NAM SE PISE. PROPADA NAJBOLJI KOMP TRENUTNO.
novosti.292ljubinko,
-> #291, mandic
>JA SAM IMAO A1200 I MORAO SAM DA JE NAPUSTIM PRE 9 MESECI ZBOG SVIH PROBLEMA
Tako je. Svi prodaju PC, a nema prodavaca Amige. Ako se negde i
nadje cena je previsoka.
Pitao sam u onoj novoj firmi (Meridijan?) za CD za Amigu i dobio
odgovor da je 400 DEM, a za PC je oko 100 DEM.
Dakle, ili nema programa, ili je hardver preskup.
novosti.293teorist,
-> #292, ljubinko=> Pitao sam u onoj novoj firmi (Meridijan?) za CD za Amigu i dobio
=> odgovor da je 400 DEM, a za PC je oko 100 DEM.
Kada si spomenuo CD, hteo bi da spomenem (mada većina vas to zna?)
da se na Amigu 1200 može bez (? uglavnom) problema priključiti bilo koji
ATAPI CD-ROM uredjaj (oni CD romovi koji idu na IDE kontroler)
Meni (i još nekima koje poznajem) sve to radi sasvim OK (da ne kažem
savršeno)
Imam 2x speed CD (Sanyo) i prijavljuje mi da je transfer 325 KB/s, što je
sasvim regularna brzina :)
Najveći problem za ugradnju je pravljenje kabla (zbog Amiginog konektora za
2.5' HDD-ove) ostalo je 'luk i voda' :)
novosti.294mandic,
-> #291, mandicZnam za cene CDova za amigu i pc. Ja sam imao overdrive za 1200 ali je
problem sto nisam imao gde da nadjem dovoljno programa i igara za cd.
Nalvise ih je bilo u Amiga Centru. Ali to su sve programi (uglavnom) koji
vec postoje na dicketama , tako da se cak ni iznajmljivanje nije isplatilo.
Samo su neke igre bile stvarno dobre kao Castle. Inace Overdrive je radio
perfektno , bez ikakvih problema. Znaci najveci problem je SOFTER za amigu.
Mada i sve firme koje su proizvodile amigu netrude se previse da je unaprede
il bar reklamiraju. Evo vidim da je A4000/30,8MB RAMA 72pina,1,3MB HD,4xcd
rom Sony --cena ...2600,-
novosti.295ljubinko,
-> #294, mandic
>Znam za cene CDova za amigu i pc. Ja sam imao overdrive za 1200 ali je
Da li neko nudi na prodaju CD za Amigu?
Ili zna gde ima i posto ?
>Znaci najveci problem je SOFTER za amigu.
Racno. Ja bih ga koristio za enc. Britanicu i slicne stvari.
novosti.296teorist,
-> #295, ljubinko>Znam za cene CDova za amigu i pc. Ja sam imao overdrive za 1200 ali je
=> Da li neko nudi na prodaju CD za Amigu?
=> Ili zna gde ima i posto ?
CD drajv ili ploče ??????
Ako je drajv u pitanju, ko što rekoh, nema nikakvih problema da se nakači
bilo koji ATAPI CD ROM uredjaj (cene su sada ispod 100DM za 2x speed, a
nešto preko 100 istih za 4x speed uredjaje :) )
A ako te (vas?) interesuju ploče, MadCat mi je rekao da je razgovarao sa
čovekom u Meridijanu koji je zadužen za Amigu, i da bi generalno oni bili
voljni da otvore CD-Teku ako bi se nas 15-20 učlanilo ????
So ? Možemo da se dogovorimo :)
>Znaci najveci problem je SOFTER za amigu.
=> Racno. Ja bih ga koristio za enc. Britanicu i slicne stvari.
Huh... nažalost Britanica (koliko znam?) ne postoji za Amigu :(((
Ako nekoga zanima mogu da okačim ovde Amiga CD-ROM guide sa opisima oko 200
kompaktdiskova za Amigu (guajd je iz januara ove godine)
novosti.297mikis,
-> #296, teorist+> Ako nekoga zanima mogu da okačim ovde Amiga CD-ROM guide sa
+> opisima oko 200 kompaktdiskova za Amigu (guajd je iz januara ove
+> godine)
Nema potrebe, eno ga u diru (\amiga\docs\acdgv14.lha) :)
novosti.298mikis,
Amiga Report #4.10, July 24, 1996
ar410.lhanovosti.299ljubinko,
-> #296, teorist
>Huh... nazalost Britanica (koliko znam?) ne postoji za Amigu :(((
Ako je unekom standardnom formatu onda i Amiga moze da je cita,
zar ne ?
>Ako nekoga zanima mogu da okacim ovde Amiga CD-ROM guide sa opisima oko 200
>kompaktdiskova za Amigu (guajd je iz januara ove godine)
Ja bih to voleo.
Pozdrav svima !
novosti.300sazalakazu,
Sjajan text!!
ind-phon.txtnovosti.301sazalakazu,
Opet radi Underground! BBS 22-06 47-24-24
novosti.302sofke,
Evo neceg interesantnog. Jedan Amiga casopis u HTML formatu.
am1_1htm.lhanovosti.304kmilan,
-> #288, ljubinko>> Kao da je Amiga ukleta... I ESCOM je otisao pod bankrot! Evo najnovije
>Amigi je (kao i Atariju) odavno lose krenulo.
>(Izgleda da cemo morati da je napustamo ?)
Kome je loše krenulo? :-) BTW i dalje se prave klonovi :-)
Da nećeš da pređeš na PrC? Da nisi možda multimilioner?
novosti.305ljubinko,
-> #304, kmilan
>Da neces da predes na PrC?
Izgleda da cu jednog dana ipak preci na PrC (na zalost).
> Da nisi mozda multimilioner?
Voleo bih da jesam.
novosti.306sofke,
Amiga Report 4.11
ar411.lhanovosti.307ljubinko,
-> #306, sofke
>Amiga Report 4.11
Hvala! (Ipak i jos uvek postojimo)
novosti.308mikis,
-> #307, ljubinko+> Hvala! (Ipak i jos uvek postojimo)
Ma naravno da postojimo :) Nemojte misliti da sam potpuno batalio
Amigu zato što sam uzeo i PC-ja. Skinuo sam gomilu stvari sa Amineta, ali na
žalost ne stižem da ih pregledam i pošaljem - u gužvi sam, što zbog posla,
što zbog ispitnog roka. Ipak, čim malo isplivam... :)
novosti.309mikis,
Amiga Supports The 1996 Olympic Games
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Chicago, IL
July 22, 1996
Permission Granted to Distribute without Alteration
The 1996 Summer Olympic Games provides a unique opportunity for
the Amiga to demonstrate its worldwide appeal, especially among
news and media professionals from Europe and the Americas.
Several US-based Amiga companies have joined forces to provide
computer support to the press agencies attending the Games. A
series of high-end Amigas are being placed at the heart of the
media editing room for use as an onsite editing tool for video
footage taken by various reporters and media producers. The Amiga
will be getting some positive media coverage and a chance to
demonstrate it's prowess handling complex broadcast and video
graphics.
Special thanks are extended to Keith Cagle, of Virtual Reality
Productions, who organized the event space.
VIScorp would like to thank the Amiga community for its support
in this effort, especially the following companies for their
contribution:
Virtual Reality Productions, Keith Cagle
QuickPak, Dave Zembecki
New Tek, Bob Hoffman & Daneta Colbach
Anti-Gravity Products, June Lavenberg
DPS
Micropace, Bob Wolter
Contact: Florine Radulovic, Director of Communications
[ www.vistv.com | Corporate Staff ]
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Champaign-Urbana Commodore Users Group / cucug@cucug.org
novosti.310mikis,
An Open Message to the Amiga Community from Bill Buck, CEO, VIScorp
Chicago, IL
July 24, 1996
1. Escom AG and Amiga Technologies GmbH are in bankruptcy and
will cease to exist as corporate entities. VIScorp has
reached an agreement with the Trustee for the liquidation of
these companies and with the creditors of these companies
for the purchase of "Amiga." There were at least eleven
different banks or companies that had claims to be "owners"
of the technology and/or the inventory. Escom had
liabilities of over $250 million. Imagine the confusion...
2. The steps that we had to follow through the last three
months were painstaking. As the situation at Escom
deteriorated, we had to continually re-negotiate our
purchase contract. We could not speed-up the process. Many
things we wanted to begin immediately we have had to delay.
The situation at Amiga and Escom were extremely troubled.
This was in part because of the difficult financial and
management situations at Amiga and Escom, but also because
of how poorly organized the intellectual property had been
under Commodore. In the course of the Commodore bankruptcy
many problems developed that were never repaired.
3. The final (and last of three) purchase contract was signed
on Friday, 19 July. It cannot be changed; it has been
executed. The intellectual property of the former Commodore
and the inventory of the former Amiga Technologies will be
owned finally by VIScorp. The final paperwork will be
completed in the next 30 days. During this month, VIScorp
GmbH will be registered and Amiga Technologies will continue
to operate temporarily in bankruptcy for VIScorp.
4. Petro Tyschtschenko and his staff will continue to operate
from Germany. Raquel Velasco and Petro Tyschtschenko will be
the new General Managers of Amiga, to be known as VIScorp
GmbH. Al Duncan, a former General Manager of Commodore will
join VIScorp to manage the sales and distribution of VIScorp
and Amiga products in North America. Petro will continue to
operate from Germany and manage the existing business.
Raquel is looking for someone from the community to manage
the re-organization of the sales and distribution in Europe.
Please contact Raquel if you are the right person for this
job.
5. The engineering efforts of the former Amiga Technologies and
the on-going engineering of VIScorp will be combined and
professionally managed. We intend to begin to implement the
plans we outlined in Toulouse very shortly.
6. Please excuse our lack of communication with the community
over the last months. We were severely restricted from
communicating our activities. Please resend your emails to
any of the VIScorp staff if they have not been answered by
this letter. We simply could not answer all the emails.
7. Do not expect miracles from VIScorp, expect slow, but steady
progress.
Thank you for your continued support.
Best Regards,
Bill Buck
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Contact: Florine Radulovic, Director of Communications
[ www.vistv.com | Corporate Staff ]
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Champaign-Urbana Commodore Users Group / cucug@cucug.org
novosti.311mikis,
Escom AG Passes Away
Saturday, July 27, 1996 - The once mighty European PC manufacturer and
retail distributor, Escom AG, will most likely become a memory soon.
According to Reuters, the Dutch unit, Escom Netherlands, will be sold off
to a through a management buy-out which is backed by two Dutch venture
capital groups. The new company has announced that it will continue to sell
computers through its network of 34 stores but that about 20% of the
current workforce would be let go.
While this was good news for most of the Dutch employees, the UK division's
1,000 workers received very disturbing news late in the week when it was
decided that Escom UK would have to be shut down after no buyers were found
for the operation. Receivers for the company noted that discussions will
continue with potential investors but that the high costs of continuing the
operation have forced the decision to shut down.
Escom's sale of Amiga Technologies to Chicago-based VIScorp was finalized
on July 18th. VIScorp takes complete control of all Amiga-based assets on
the 19th of August.
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Champaign-Urbana Commodore Users Group / cucug@cucug.org
novosti.312mikis,
Amiga Report #4.12 (September 23, 1996)
nadam se da ne smeta što je arhiva ZIP-ovana, skinuo sam je sa CUCUG-a
kao nezapakovan .guide fajl. Izgleda da se nešto dešava sa Aminetom, na
nekoliko najvećih hostova prikazuje da nema novih fajlova već nekoliko dana.
Pre neki dan sam takođe na CUCUG pročitao da će Aminet neko vreme biti down
zbog upgrade-a hardvera, nadam se da je samo to u pitanju.
Uzgred, ako ima interesa, da kačim i AR u HTML formatu? (zgodno za
vlasnike drugih računara)
ar412.zipnovosti.313jvujnic,
-> #312, mikis>> Uzgred, ako ima interesa, da kačim i AR u HTML formatu? (zgodno za
>> vlasnike drugih računara)
Bilo bi lepo kad bi to uradio, ja sam za !
novosti.314sofke,
-> #312, mikis
Mi> kao nezapakovan .guide fajl. Izgleda da se nesto desava sa Aminetom, na
Mi> nekoliko najvecih hostova prikazuje da nema novih fajlova vec nekoliko
Mi> dana.
Pa koliko sam ja pratio, od 23. septembra je bio down, ali sinoć kad
sam se logovao na paderborn.de, video sam da su poceli da rade, posto
je recent dir bio pun fajlova. Isto sam proverio i na glavnom Aminet
site-u, wustl.edu. Znači napokon su stavili taj novi hardver :)
Mi> Pre neki dan sam takode na CUCUG procitao da ce Aminet neko vreme biti
Mi> down
Mi> zbog upgrade-a hardvera, nadam se da je samo to u pitanju.
Da, to je bilo u pitanju, pošto je disk bio prepun, pa upload nije
radio zbog iz tog razloga. Sada radi :)
Mi> Uzgred, ako ima interesa, da kacim i AR u HTML formatu? (zgodno
Mi> za
Mi> vlasnike drugih racunara)
Može, što da ne :))
Sofke... member of Team AMIGA !!!