email.824postmast,
From: nenadr@sunset.fon.bg.ac.yu (Nenad Radosavljevic)
Subject: ELM for DOS
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 94 08:52:20 GMT
Korisnici UUPC/extended ili nekog drugog UUCP paketa za DOS:
Sa FON File Server-a iz dir-a /msdos/uucp mozete preuzeti:
+------------------+
| ELM for DOS 0.10 |
+------------------+
Mail User Agent (mailer) nalik na UNIX-ov paket ELM!
Program se nalazi u arhivi elm010.zip.
Iz istog direktorijuma mozete preuzeti i:
+----------+
| MAN 1.02 |
+----------+
Manual pages view-er nalik na UNIX-ov program MAN!
Program sluzi za pregled dokumentacije ostalih programa koje ste
instalirali na vasem sistemu, i nalazi se u arhivi man102.zip.
--
=======================================================================
Nenad Radosavljevic E-mail: nenadr@sunset.fon.bg.ac.yu
=======================================================================
email.825postmast,
From: Milan.Stojanovic@f101.n101.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Milan Stojanovic)
Subject: email
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 02:49:18
BR> A moze li neko da kaze (predvidi) KADA CE YUINT IZACI NA PRAVI
BR> INT.? U nekim racunarima sam procitao za par meseci... Sta se radi na
BR> tom planu..
Jedan prijatelj mi je rekao da niski Durlan BBS ima izlaz na internet.
Adresa korisnika na durlanu je username@gtc25.gtc.net (ne znam koja je
ovo linija).
Jos sam cuo da je sa durlana nemoguce poslati postu u YU, zbog toga sto
posta dolazi na internet negde u inostranstvu, a odatle ne moze da
dodje u YU.
Piksi.
... kjasdiyu weriu lsa iue wwekjsdiu ew uihdsli wekjsam, nzkuas
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.826postmast,
From: Bosko.Rafajlovic@f125.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Bosko Rafajlovic)
Subject: Re: modem
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 20:50:22
-=> Quoting Bojan Jovanovic to All <=-
BJ> NOVOGODISNJA RASPRODAJA:
BJ>
BJ> FaxModem Zoltrix 14400/14400
BJ>
BJ> za samo !!!! 180dem !!!!
BJ> ------------------
BJ> Modem poseduje Rockwell ATI chipset, v32, v32bis, v17, RPI
BJ> (Rockwell Protocol Interface - koji omogucava v42, v42bis, MNP 2-5,
BJ> a zahvaljujuci ovom resenju, moguca je i nadgradnja protokola -
BJ> specificna hardversko softverska kombinacija). Modem zahteva bar
BJ> 386 masinu (486/33+ preporucljivo), i dolazi sa softverom za DOS i
BJ> Windows koji je specijalno prilagodjen za RPI (BitCom preuredjen za
BJ> RPI).
BJ> Sve informacije iskljucivo na tel: 545-446 (Bojan)
Da li je to nov modem ?! i ako jeste da li je pod garancijom ?
I drugo pitanje: Zbog cega zahteva 386+ ?!
Rafi
... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
* Origin: SETNet : Birostroj BBS : NON-STOP : 14400 bps : 011/609945 (38:103/125)
email.827postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 03:57:10 GMT
Izvesni Milan.Stojanovic@f101.n101.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu rece:
>
> Jedan prijatelj mi je rekao da niski Durlan BBS ima izlaz na internet.
> Adresa korisnika na durlanu je username@gtc25.gtc.net (ne znam koja je
> ovo linija).
Pa lepo pise kod njih da mail na Internet ide preko BITS-a...
> Jos sam cuo da je sa durlana nemoguce poslati postu u YU, zbog toga sto
> posta dolazi na internet negde u inostranstvu, a odatle ne moze da
> dodje u YU.
?????? Sto ne bi moglo? Kada je .yu zvanican domen...
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.828postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: modem
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 04:01:29 GMT
Izvesni Bosko.Rafajlovic@f125.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Bosko Rafajlovic) rece:
> I drugo pitanje: Zbog cega zahteva 386+ ?!
Pa zamisli na 286- na 14400 :) Lepo bi islo!:)
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.829postmast,
From: markom@setnet.co.yu (Marko Milivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 23:54:29
-=> Reply to: Milan Stojanovic <=-
MS> internet. Adresa korisnika na durlanu je username@gtc25.gtc.net (ne
MS> znam koja je ovo linija).
To je isto ono sto ima Radio Pingvin BBS, tj. E-Mail ide
preko BITS-a.
-=> MM <=-
... Gori vatra, sad u nama... Pentium
* Origin: SETNet - Belgrade HUB1 (38:103/1.1)
email.830postmast,
From: bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 21:49:01 GMT
Marko Milivojevic (markom@setnet.co.yu) wrote:
/* > -=> Reply to: Milan Stojanovic <=-
/* > MS> internet. Adresa korisnika na durlanu je username@gtc25.gtc.net (ne
/* > MS> znam koja je ovo linija).
/* > To je isto ono sto ima Radio Pingvin BBS, tj. E-Mail ide
/* > preko BITS-a.
Pa malo slabo ide ..:>>>>>>>>> BITS je TMP off line...
Bane
============================================================================
Branislav Subotic * Belgrade * Serbia * Yugoslavia bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
============================================================================
email.831lavirint,
-> #825, postmastŔŔŔ Adresa korisnika na durlanu je username@gtc25.gtc.net (ne
ŔŔŔ znam koja je ovo linija).
Preko bits-a.
email.832lavirint,
-> #826, postmastŔŔŔ Da li je to nov modem ?! i ako jeste da li je pod garancijom
ŔŔŔ ?
ŔŔŔ
ŔŔŔ I drugo pitanje: Zbog cega zahteva 386+ ?!
Jeste nov je, fora je u tome da nema hardverski vec nesto kao
hardversko/softwerski MNP. Koliko sam ja shvatio radi se o tome
da postoji samo chip koji ubrzava softwerski mnp, odnosno pripomaze mu.
Sve u svemu, po meni vrlo mutno, dodaj jos 20dm i kupi modem ko covek :)
email.833lavirint,
-> #828, postmastŔŔŔ Pa zamisli na 286- na 14400 :) Lepo bi islo!:)
Zasto da ne ? Ja sam jedno vreme imao 14400 na 286 i radilo je sve
kako treba.
email.834jovca.car,
-> #826, postmast/* From: Bosko.Rafajlovic@f125.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Bosko
/* BJ> FaxModem Zoltrix 14400/14400
/* BJ> Modem poseduje Rockwell ATI chipset, v32, v32bis, v17, RPI
/* BJ> (Rockwell Protocol Interface - koji omogucava v42, v42bis, MNP 2-5,
/* Da li je to nov modem ?! i ako jeste da li je pod garancijom ?
Ne daj se prevariti. Taj RPI je u stvari softverski v42, v42bis, MNP 2-5.
Najobičnije đubre.
email.835supers,
-> #833, lavirint>> Zasto da ne ? Ja sam jedno vreme imao 14400 na 286 i radilo je sve
>> kako treba.
Da, ali na maksimum 9600?
email.836postmast,
From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 18:26:06 GMT
Dejan Ristanovic (dejanr@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
> >> Mozda pitam nesto odavno poznato, ali interesuje me zasto ne mogu
> >> da primim mail iz inostranstva?
> Na Sezamu mozete slati i primati samo email u okviru Beoneta, dakle
> sa domacih sistema.
Ako Sezam ima ogranicenja, onda se moze naci drugo reshenje za
prijem email-a iz inostranstva. Tu je prva varijanta ZAMIR BBS
(632566) ili racunar Galeb na ETFu kome se moze pristupiti sa
ETFa ili preko ETFovih modema...
Pozdrav,
Bane
===========================================================================
Branislav Subotic Belgrade YUGOSLAVIA Email: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu
===========================================================================
email.837postmast,
From: bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:42:08 GMT
Bora Zivanovic (bora@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
/* > Interesuje me direktan pristup Internet mrezi. Koji je najblizi
/* >racunar vezan u mrezu i kako se vrsi naplata.
/* > Veoma je hitno.
Pa najblize je shto se pitanja tice BITS, ali njima je odsecnena
veza sa Jupakom privremeno. BIce kod njih sve OK (nadam se) posle
praznika... Druga alternativa je direktno zvanje preko Jupaka
nekog racunara u inostranstvu, a odatle telnete ili drugo shto
po zelji. Naplata se vrshi po cenovniku Jupaka i vrsti rada
preko te veze.
Za detalje na email..
Pozdrav,
Bane
============================================================================
Branislav Subotic * Belgrade * Serbia * Yugoslavia bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
============================================================================
email.838postmast,
From: bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:44:34 GMT
Bora Zivanovic (bora@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
/* > Interesuje me direktan pristup Internet mrezi. Koji je najblizi
/* >racunar vezan u mrezu i kako se vrsi naplata.
E da najblize varijante su recimo Austrija (nije bash sigurno),
Nemacka, Svajcarska... Mozda i Grcka uskoro.. Ovo sve mislim
u varijanti sa Jupakom.
Pozdrav,
Bane
============================================================================
Branislav Subotic * Belgrade * Serbia * Yugoslavia bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
============================================================================
email.839zeljkoj,
-> #828, postmast> Pa zamisli na 286- na 14400 :) Lepo bi islo!:)
Ovde neko reče da ima XT sa 14400 bps modemom, pa lepo radi.
Zašto bi procesor uopšte bio važan? Modem je potpuno nezavisan
od kompjutera.
email.840supers,
-> #839, zeljkoj>> Ovde neko rece da ima XT sa 14400 bps modemom, pa lepo radi.
>> Zasto bi procesor uopste bio vazan? Modem je potpuno nezavisan
>> od kompjutera.
Interesuje me kako moze da prodje 14400 bps kroz osmobitni slot
na XT-u?
email.841zeljkoj,
-> #840, supers> Interesuje me kako moze da prodje 14400 bps kroz osmobitni slot
> na XT-u?
A što ne bi moglo? Pa to i nije neka brzina 14400 bps = 1800 B/s = 1.76 kB/s
I hajde sad reci da je 1.76 kilobajta u mnogo!
email.842omega,
Da li neko zna e-mail adresu firme Pinnacle Micro?
email.843vitez.koja,
-> #840, supers#=>>> Ovde neko rece da ima XT sa 14400 bps modemom, pa lepo
#=>>> radi. Zasto bi procesor uopste bio vazan? Modem je
#=>>> potpuno nezavisan od kompjutera.
#=> Interesuje me kako moze da prodje 14400 bps kroz
#=> osmobitni slot na XT-u?
Zašto ne bi moglo ? 14400 bps = 1,75 kb/s. Brzine prenosa
najstarijih diskova višestruko (za red ili dva veličine)
ovo prevazilaze, a komunikacija sa diskom takođe ide preko
osmobitnog XT slota.
email.844slom,
Nedavno je dejanr prijavio da mu se vratio mail poslat sa Internet-a
adresiran na "xxxxxxx@yubgef51.bitnet"
U trenutno vazecim Bitnet tablicama (danas sam gledao), nema ni
YUBGEF51 ni YUBGSS21. Izbaceni su i svi podaci o njima kojih je do
pre mesec-dva bilo. Nema naravno ni YUEARN11, doduse on nikad nije
ni bio na listi.
Ne bi se reklo da stvari idu na bolje :(
sm
email.845zormi,
-> #843, vitez.koja*#=> Interesuje me kako moze da prodje 14400 bps kroz
*#=> osmobitni slot na XT-u?
*
* Zašto ne bi moglo ? 14400 bps = 1,75 kb/s. Brzine prenosa
* najstarijih diskova višestruko (za red ili dva veličine)
* ovo prevazilaze, a komunikacija sa diskom takođe ide preko
* osmobitnog XT slota.
Kod serijske komunikacije nije problem u slotu ili bus-u već u
UART čipu. XT može da radi na 38 kbps (za više od toga nisam
siguran), tj. komunikaciju sa 14400 modemom treba ograničiti
na toliko, a ne na 57 kbps.
Naravno, multitasking okruženja ne dolaze u obzir ;)
email.846piter,
-> #840, supers>>>> Ovde neko rece da ima XT sa 14400 bps modemom, pa lepo radi.
>>>> Zasto bi procesor uopste bio vazan? Modem je potpuno
>>>> nezavisan od kompjutera.
>> Interesuje me kako moze da prodje 14400 bps kroz osmobitni
>> slot na XT-u?
Ko neveruje samo jos veceras, u nasem gradu, ima priliku da se uveri u to
od sutra definitivno prestajem da koristim XT u bilo kakve svrhe, zbog
cak i meni trenutno nepoznatih razloga, znam da cu plakati za njim, al'
zivot tece dalje... :(
email.847postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 04:13:51 GMT
Izvesni "Zeljko Jovanovic" <zeljkoj@sezam.UUCP> rece:
> Najbolje je kad sam pises softver za BBS. Tako dobijes upravo ono
> sto zelis.
Ali je Maximus najflexibilniji!
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.848postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:27:45 GMT
Izvesni "Vizionari Beograda" <lavirint@sezam.UUCP> rece:
> Pa zamisli na 286- na 14400 :) Lepo bi islo!:)
>
> Zasto da ne ? Ja sam jedno vreme imao 14400 na 286 i radilo je sve
> kako treba.
Stvarno? Lepo... Mislio sam da je to, jako, neizvodljivo.. Eto:)
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.849zeljkoj,
-> #847, postmast> Izvesni "Zeljko Jovanovic" <zeljkoj@sezam.UUCP> rece:
>> Najbolje je kad sam pises softver za BBS. Tako dobijes upravo
>> ono sto zelis.
>
> Ali je Maximus najflexibilniji!
Izvesni "Zeljko Jovanovic" <zeljkoj@sezam.UUCP> ;))) odgovara:
Pošto nisam imao prilike da vidim taj Maximus, opiši ga malo ako te ne mrzi.
Baš me zanima šta sve ima.
email.850violator,
-> #849, zeljkoj:>> Pošto nisam imao prilike da vidim taj Maximus, opiši ga malo
:>> ako te ne mrzi. Baš me zanima šta sve ima.
Pa pozovi npr. force aracis BBS, pa ces videti. Takodje ima i
tzv. MECCA jezik kojim mozes da pravis mnoge zanimljive stvarcice, kao
sto su komandna linija :), vote door, razni meniji isl. Takodje je mogu-
ce i praviti posebne menije. Jedina mu je mana sto je veoma komplikovan
za koriscenje (sa sysop-ove strane), ali to je cena koja mora da se
plati za sve dobre stvari koje ima. Takodje je i PD ako se nekomercijalno
koristi (nesto poput zip-a).
email.851postmast,
From: Petar.Kajevski@p1.f108.n108.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Petar Kajevski)
Subject: adresa
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 03:10:00
Kako bih mogao da doznam BInt adresu studenta na ETF-u u Beogradu,
ako znam ime ( i prezime :)) i godinu studija. Ako moze to bez
'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
Petar
... No honey, I can't eat with the family. My computer gets lonely!
* Origin: SetNet: *** VEGA BBS*** +389-91-225-280 (38:108/108.1)
email.852postmast,
From: BERI@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Berislav Todorovic)
Subject: YU i BITNET (Bilo je: email)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 13:39:00 GMT
In <sezam$email:01.017.4053@sezam> "Slobodan Marinkovic writes:
>>
>> Nedavno je dejanr prijavio da mu se vratio mail poslat sa Internet-a
>> adresiran na "xxxxxxx@yubgef51.bitnet"
>>
>> U trenutno vazecim Bitnet tablicama (danas sam gledao), nema ni
>> YUBGEF51 ni YUBGSS21. Izbaceni su i svi podaci o njima kojih je do
>> pre mesec-dva bilo. Nema naravno ni YUEARN11, doduse on nikad nije
>> ni bio na listi.
>>
Hmmm, pa naravno da nasih BITNET racunara nema u svetskim tabelama,
kad smo s BITNET-a "odseceni" pre vise od dve godine. Tada smo i
izbaceni iz zvanicnih tabela. E, sad sve zavisi od toga gde si
te tabele gledao: moguce je da je administrator sistema na kome si
gledao tabele izvrsio update tek ovih dana nakon pune dve godine!
(neazurnost kao pojava postoji i u belom svetu :-((( ).
Inace, u BITNET tabelama bi trebalo da se nalaze podaci za .yu
domain. No, na nekim racunarima jos uvek nije izvrsen update tabela
od pre dve godine, pa ljudi imaju problema sa isporukom poste za
Jugoslaviju. Ovo se odnosi na racunare koji su istovremeno vezani
na Internet i BITNET. Ako imate takav problem, resenje je da vas
korespodent u inostranstvu zamoli tamosnjeg administratora da
uradi svoj posao valjano (tj. da uradi update MAILER tabela)!
Pozdrav,
Beri
.-------.
| --+-- | Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E. | E-mail: beri@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
| /|\ UBBG System administrator |
|-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419
| \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3224-430
| --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA |
`-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------
email.853postmast,
From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 21:28:18 GMT
Slobodan Marinkovic (slom@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
: Nedavno je dejanr prijavio da mu se vratio mail poslat sa Internet-a
: adresiran na "xxxxxxx@yubgef51.bitnet"
: U trenutno vazecim Bitnet tablicama (danas sam gledao), nema ni
: YUBGEF51 ni YUBGSS21. Izbaceni su i svi podaci o njima kojih je do
: pre mesec-dva bilo. Nema naravno ni YUEARN11, doduse on nikad nije
: ni bio na listi.
: Ne bi se reklo da stvari idu na bolje :(
Ima li zvanicnog objasnjenja za ovo? Ili je u pitanju neka greska?
: sm
Rade
email.854postmast,
From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: Re: adresa
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:50:21 GMT
Petar Kajevski (Petar.Kajevski@p1.f108.n108.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu) wrote:
: Kako bih mogao da doznam BInt adresu studenta na ETF-u u Beogradu,
: ako znam ime ( i prezime :)) i godinu studija. Ako moze to bez
: 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
Treba ti prezime i broj indexa (sa godinom upisa). Ili, da zamolis nekoga
da ti sazna te podatke o coveku koji te interesuje. Ili, da zamolis nekog
programera u RC-u ETF-a da ti kaze nesto o tom coveku :))
: Petar
Rade
email.855postmast,
From: Marko.Milivojevic@f130.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Marko Milivojevic)
Subject: Re: adresa
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1995 11:49:05
-=> Reply to: Petar Kajevski <=-
PK> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
?????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????? OSMEH SE PLACA ????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Otkad je ovo?!?!?!?!?! Ne bih voleo da je ovo istina...
-=> MM <=-
... Zasto sve sto je lepo ima frajera???
* Origin: SETNet - Exodus BBS #137-477# from 22:00 to 09:00 (38:103/130)
email.856postmast,
From: balsa@setnet.co.yu (Balsa Stipcevic)
Subject: Re: adresa
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:23:00
* U poruci za Petra Kajevskog, Marko Milivojevic:
> PK> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????? OSMEH SE PLACA ????????????????
Ma ne placa se bre Osmeh, al' se placa minut veze izmedju Makedonije i
Beograda. :)
* Origin: SETNet:INFOSYS*informacije*BG*011-1768-526*od 23-07* (38:103/114)
email.857postmast,
From: pedjak@hobbiton.CO.YU (Predrag Knezevic)
Subject: Re: adresa
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 07:01:36 GMT
> Kako bih mogao da doznam BInt adresu studenta na ETF-u u Beogradu,
> ako znam ime ( i prezime :)) i godinu studija. Ako moze to bez
> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
Ako znas i broj indeksa nema problema. Na u BUEF31 username se
formira ovako: sest slova prezimena ( ko ima manje ostatak se
popuni sa underscore znakom "_" ) + broj indeksa ( u formatu BBBGG )
+ 'D' ( ukoliko je na normalnim studijama ili 'P' ukoliko je
postdiplomac.
Ukoliko se radi o BuefHP masini postupak je slican samo sto se
umesto dela prezimena uzimaju inicijali u obliku prezime, pa ime,
dalje sve tece kao i na Buef31.
Na ostalim masinama ETF-a ne postoje pravila za odredjivanje
username-a.
email.858postmast,
From: vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksander Vasiljevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:30:45 GMT
Slobodan Marinkovic (slom@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
-> Nedavno je dejanr prijavio da mu se vratio mail poslat sa Internet-a
-> adresiran na "xxxxxxx@yubgef51.bitnet"
-> U trenutno vazecim Bitnet tablicama (danas sam gledao), nema ni
-> YUBGEF51 ni YUBGSS21. Izbaceni su i svi podaci o njima kojih je do
-> pre mesec-dva bilo. Nema naravno ni YUEARN11, doduse on nikad nije
-> ni bio na listi.
Interesuje me na koji nacin se uopste salje mail iz inostranstva nasim
Bitnet hostovima? I kako se salje odavde napolje? Je l' to i dalje ide preko
JUPAK-a ili kako?
Vasa
email.859mvincic,
1. Može li neko u kratkim crtama da mi objasni kako da na Osmehu
stavim da mi default editor bude EMACS umesto onog košmarnog ....
To zapravo treba da radi sa ELM-om.
2. Kako se uklanjaju/ubijaju stopirani poslovi?
Pozdrav...
email.860slom,
-> #852, postmast
> From: BERI@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Berislav Todorovic)
>
> Hmmm, pa naravno da nasih BITNET racunara nema u svetskim tabelama,
> kad smo s BITNET-a "odseceni" pre vise od dve godine. Tada smo i
> izbaceni iz zvanicnih tabela. E, sad sve zavisi od toga gde si
> te tabele gledao: moguce je da je administrator sistema na kome si
> gledao tabele izvrsio update tek ovih dana nakon pune dve godine!
> (neazurnost kao pojava postoji i u belom svetu :-((( ).
Jesmo odseceni sa Bitnet-a, ali ako se ne varam i posle uvodjenja
sankcija ostali smo "clanovi". I dalje si mogao da saljes mail iz sveta
na @YUBGEF51.BITNET, a da ti se on ne vrati sa porukom "incorrect
address". Cak su Austrijanci obecali ;) da se sav mail upucen na YUBG****
snima na trake i da ce kad ponovo bude uspostavljen saobracaj sve poruke
biti urucene. (Imam utisak da su koristili /dev/null traku ;)
O azurnosti Bitnet tablica koje sam ja gledao ne mogu nista da kazem,
sve je moguce.
email.861spantic,
-> #851, postmastU svojoj poruci Petar.Kajevski@p1.f108.n108.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu
(Petar Kajevski) je napisao:
> Kako bih mogao da doznam BInt adresu studenta na ETF-u u Beogradu,
> ako znam ime ( i prezime :)) i godinu studija. Ako moze to bez
> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
To nije dovoljno. U principu najverovatnije on sada ima nalog
na BUEF31, a tamo se studentski nalozi grade po principu:
šest slova od prezimena (bez YU slova jasno ;) + broj indeksa + godina
upisa + slovo (D za diplomce, P za postdiplomce).
Primer:
Ja se prezivam Pantić, broj indeksa mi je bio 279, a upisao sam
ETF 1986. Username mi je bio:
PANTIC27986D
email.862postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: email
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 11:39:00
To: "Stanislav Zunjic" <supers@sezam.UUCP>
>>> Zasto da ne ? Ja sam jedno vreme imao 14400 na 286 i radilo je sve
>>> kako treba.
>Da, ali na maksimum 9600?
Ne, radio je sasvim normalno zakljucan na 57600. Uz to modem je interni
pa ima brzi UART. Trebalo bi da takav modem radi i na XT masinama, mada
se tada ne moze zakljucati na 57600. Problemi mogu da nastanu ako je
komunikacija sa diskom spora, ali sam video da fossil drajveri i za to
imaju resenje.
broker
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.863postmast,
From: Petar.Kajevski@p1.f108.n108.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Petar Kajevski)
Subject: Re: adresa
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 23:57:00
> -=> Reply to: Petar Kajevski <=-
> PK> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????? OSMEH SE PLACA ????????????????
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
> Otkad je ovo?!?!?!?!?! Ne bih voleo da je ovo
> istina...
Koriscenje Osmeha se placa PTT Makedonije :( #$%$#
Petar
* Origin: SetNet: *** VEGA BBS*** +389-91-225-280 (38:108/108.1)
email.864postmast,
From: Zeljko.Stevanovic@f130.n103.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Zeljko Stevanovic)
Subject: email
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 07:42:30
"B> From: "Vizionari Beograda" <lavirint@sezam.UUCP>
"B>
"B> Preko bits-a.
Sta je sa BITS-om i JUPAK-om ja procitao u Alteru (domaci disketni casopis)
da su se BITS i JUPAK posvadjli tj. da BITS vise nema JUPAK-ove prikljucke..
... IBM-PC - Imbecil Bussines Machine - Permanently Craches
* Origin: SETNet - Exodus BBS, Novi Beograd #137-477# (38:103/130)
email.865postmast,
From: spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic)
Subject: email
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 10:46:01
* Originally from: "Stanislav Zunjic"
* Originally to: All
>> Ovde neko rece da ima XT sa 14400 bps modemom, pa lepo radi.
>> Zasto bi procesor uopste bio vazan? Modem je potpuno nezavisan
>> od kompjutera.
"Z>
"Z> Interesuje me kako moze da prodje 14400 bps kroz osmobitni slot
"Z> na XT-u?
??? Izvini, ja imam Zoltrix 14/14 fax/modem koji je osmobitna
kartica i moze da udje u sve sto se odaziva na PC, od XT-a do
Pentiuma. Ne vidim po cemu je sirina magistrale bitna.
E sad, mozda XT ne mopze da izvuce veliku brzinu COM porta, ali
sigurno moze makar 19200, sto je dovoljno da bi modem radio OK na
14400.
... Pravim mracnu komoru pa mi sacuvajte pregorele sijalice.
* Origin: SETNet - Belgrade HUB1 (38:103/1)
email.866postmast,
From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: Re: adresa
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 02:54:17 GMT
Marko Milivojevic (Marko.Milivojevic@f130.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu) wrote:
: -=> Reply to: Petar Kajevski <=-
: PK> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
: ????????????????? OSMEH SE PLACA ????????????????
: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
: Otkad je ovo?!?!?!?!?! Ne bih voleo da je ovo istina...
Kush bre tamo :)))) Ne placa se, mada ne znam gde su granice tolerancije
akademske mreze :))) posto smo vec dogurali do oko 200 korisnika i tona
e-maila svakodnevno... Videcemo...
Rade
email.867violator,
-> #860, slom:>> address". Cak su Austrijanci obecali ;) da se sav mail upucen
:>> na YUBG**** snima na trake i da ce kad ponovo bude
:>> uspostavljen saobracaj sve poruke biti urucene. (Imam utisak
:>> da su koristili /dev/null traku ;)
Pa koja je svrha maila koji kasni par godina? :))))
email.868violator,
-> #856, postmast:>> Ma ne placa se bre Osmeh, al' se placa minut veze izmedju
:>> Makedonije i Beograda. :)
uh, dobro je, pao mi je kamen sa srca. O;)))))
email.869novim,
-> #867, violator" :>> address". Cak su Austrijanci obecali ;) da se sav mail upucen
" :>> na YUBG**** snima na trake i da ce kad ponovo bude
" :>> uspostavljen saobracaj sve poruke biti urucene. (Imam utisak
" :>> da su koristili /dev/null traku ;)
"
" Pa koja je svrha maila koji kasni par godina? :))))
Istorijska. ;>
email.870pyc.guy,
-> #853, postmast~~~ From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
^^^
Hkakm...;)
Pyc
email.871pyc.guy,
-> #866, postmast~~~ Kush bre tamo :)))) Ne placa se, mada ne znam gde su granice
~~~ tolerancije akademske mreze :))) posto smo vec dogurali do oko 200
~~~ korisnika i tona e-maila svakodnevno... Videcemo...
Loguj se na rade+@osmeh.fon imam neki mail za tebe, :)
Mogao bi da pomogne u izvesnim situacijama. Znas ono
o cemu smo se dogovarali...:)
Pyc
email.872ppekovic,
-> #851, postmast>> ako znam ime ( i prezime :)) i godinu studija. Ako moze to bez
>> 'besplatnog' uclanjenja na Osmeh ( 1 min = .35 DEM :( )
Account na osmeh-u se dobija besplatno. Takođe, ni jedan servis
koji se koristi na osmeh-u se ne naplaćuje. Verovatno si dobio
pogrešnu informaciju.
Paya
email.873ayatolah,
-> #870, pyc.guy*)*)From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
*) ^^^
*)
*) Hkakm...;)
Don't worry, Zed's dead, babe. @;)
email.874postmast,
From: vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksander Vasiljevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:11:27 GMT
Miodrag Vincic (mvincic@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
-> 1. Moze li neko u kratkim crtama da mi objasni kako da na Osmehu
-> stavim da mi default editor bude EMACS umesto onog kosmarnog ....
Udjes u ELM, otkucas 'o' (options), izaberes editor i to je to...
-> 2. Kako se uklanjaju/ubijaju stopirani poslovi?
kill -9 'broj_procesa'
Pozdrav,
Vasa
email.875postmast,
From: spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic)
Subject: email
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 05:15:04
* Originally from: "Marko Nesovic"
* Originally to: All
:>> Posto nisam imao prilike da vidim taj Maximus, opisi ga malo
:>> ako te ne mrzi. Bas me zanima sta sve ima.
"N>
"N> Pa pozovi npr. force aracis BBS, pa ces videti. Takodje ima i
"N> tzv. MECCA jezik kojim mozes da pravis mnoge zanimljive stvarcice, kao
"N> sto su komandna linija :), vote door, razni meniji isl. Takodje je
"N> mogu- ce i praviti posebne menije. Jedina mu je mana sto je veoma
"N> komplikovan za koriscenje (sa sysop-ove strane), ali to je cena koja
"N> mora da se plati za sve dobre stvari koje ima. Takodje je i PD ako se
"N> nekomercijalno koristi (nesto poput zip-a).
Ne znam, Maximus je zgodan, ali je po mogucnostima tu negde u
klasi Remote Accessa (sad ce Maximusovci da poshize, ali tacno je :).
Najfleksibilniji softver koji sam ja do sada video je PCBoard. On uz
sebe ima i PPL, skript jezik koji moze da zameni sve interne stvari u
njega ugradjene - izuzetno mocna stvar. Jedina mana mu je sto nije ni
PD ni ShareWare, vec komercijalan softver. Ali, nas narod ima nacina
da se i s tim bori... ;)
... ASCII stupid question - get a stupid ANSI
* Origin: SETNet - Belgrade HUB1 (38:103/1)
email.876postmast,
From: spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic)
Subject: email
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 05:53:04
.* Originally from: "Marko Nesovic"
* Originally to: All
:>> Posto nisam imao prilike da vidim taj Maximus, opisi ga malo
:>> ako te ne mrzi. Bas me zanima sta sve ima.
"N>
"N> Pa pozovi npr. force aracis BBS, pa ces videti. Takodje ima i
"N> tzv. MECCA jezik kojim mozes da pravis mnoge zanimljive stvarcice, kao
"N> sto su komandna linija :), vote door, razni meniji isl. Takodje je
"N> mogu- ce i praviti posebne menije. Jedina mu je mana sto je veoma
"N> komplikovan za koriscenje (sa sysop-ove strane), ali to je cena koja
"N> mora da se plati za sve dobre stvari koje ima. Takodje je i PD ako se
"N> nekomercijalno koristi (nesto poput zip-a).
Ne znam, Maximus je zgodan, ali je po mogucnostima tu negde u
klasi Remote Accessa (sad ce Maximusovci da poshize, ali tacno je :).
Najfleksibilniji softver koji sam ja do sada video je PCBoard. On uz
sebe ima i PPL, skript jezik koji moze da zameni sve interne stvari u
njega ugradjene - izuzetno mocna stvar. Jedina mana mu je sto nije ni
PD ni ShareWare, vec komercijalan softver. Ali, nas narod ima nacina
da se i s tim bori... ;)
... ASCII stupid question - get a stupid ANSI
* Origin: SETNet - Belgrade HUB1 (38:103/1)
email.877postmast,
From: rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Radivoje Zonjic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 12:37:24 GMT
Milan Popovic (ayatolah@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
: *)*)From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
: *) ^^^
: *)
: *) Hkakm...;)
: Don't worry, Zed's dead, babe. @;)
Sta ovo znaci, ha?
Rade
email.878postmast,
From: vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksander Vasiljevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 19:24:03 GMT
Radivoje Zonjic (rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU) wrote:
-> Milan Popovic (ayatolah@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
-> : *)*)From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
-> : *) ^^^
-> : *)
-> : *) Hkakm...;)
-> : Don't worry, Zed's dead, babe. @;)
-> Sta ovo znaci, ha?
-> Rade
Nisi gledao 'Petparacke price'? Gledaj obavezno! :)
Vasa
email.879postmast,
From: bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 21:59:48 GMT
Marko Nesovic (violator@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
/* >:>> address". Cak su Austrijanci obecali ;) da se sav mail upucen
/* >:>> na YUBG**** snima na trake i da ce kad ponovo bude
/* >:>> uspostavljen saobracaj sve poruke biti urucene. (Imam utisak
/* >:>> da su koristili /dev/null traku ;)
/* > Pa koja je svrha maila koji kasni par godina? :))))
Pa tek da kazu: "Mi smo dobri pa smo cuvali" ..:))
Pozdrav,
Bane
============================================================================
Branislav Subotic * Belgrade * Serbia * Yugoslavia bane@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
============================================================================
email.880postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 19:32:47 GMT
Izvesni "Marko Nesovic" <violator@sezam.UUCP> rece:
> :>> Posto nisam imao prilike da vidim taj Maximus, opisi ga malo
> :>> ako te ne mrzi. Bas me zanima sta sve ima.
>
> Pa pozovi npr. force aracis BBS, pa ces videti. Takodje ima i
> tzv. MECCA jezik kojim mozes da pravis mnoge zanimljive stvarcice, kao
> sto su komandna linija :), vote door, razni meniji isl. Takodje je mogu-
I osim MECCA jezika ima u MUL.. Za detalje pitaj druge:)
> ce i praviti posebne menije. Jedina mu je mana sto je veoma komplikovan
> za koriscenje (sa sysop-ove strane), ali to je cena koja mora da se
> plati za sve dobre stvari koje ima. Takodje je i PD ako se nekomercijalno
> koristi (nesto poput zip-a).
Pa i nije komplikovan kad ufatis fazon:) Imas .CTL i .MEC fajlove koje
kompajliras nekim njegovim kompajlerom itd..
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.881postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 21:22:43 GMT
Izvesni spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic) rece:
> Ne znam, Maximus je zgodan, ali je po mogucnostima tu negde u
> klasi Remote Accessa (sad ce Maximusovci da poshize, ali tacno je :).
Pa sad da ce da posize - posizece, ali da je tacno i nije. Ne mogu da
kazem da je NAJBOLJI (posto PCBoard nisam imao prilike da vidim izbliza)
a da je u klasi RA.. Pa nemojmo se vredjati:) RA je dobar za sysope, koji
nece da se bahcu sa bbs-om mnogo, nego da na lagodan nacin nameste da sve
radi - i to je to. Naprotiv, Maximus, je drugaciji (uvek mozes original
da stavis i sve ce da radi, ali..) Njega mozes mnooogo vise izmenjati,
dodati sta tebi odgovara, kombinovati menije, praviti svoje pod programe
(Mecca, MUL) itd..
> PD ni ShareWare, vec komercijalan softver. Ali, nas narod ima nacina
> da se i s tim bori... ;)
Eh... Jos koliko ce to trajati? Niko ne zna, ali ja sam nesto nacuo (jos
letos) da je usvojen neki zakon protiv Piratizacije software-a (ali vidim
Svet Kompjutera jos pun oglasa...). Po meni to je lose za nas slobodne :)
umetnike, ali... ko zna:)
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.882postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 21:27:12 GMT
Izvesni "Marko Nesovic" <violator@sezam.UUCP> rece:
> Pa koja je svrha maila koji kasni par godina? :))))
E... Bolje ikad nego nikad:)
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.883violator,
-> #876, postmast:>> Ne znam, Maximus je zgodan, ali je po mogucnostima tu negde u
:>>Çklasi Remote Accessa (sad ce Maximusovci da poshize, ali tacno je
:>> :).
É Nije tacno, daleko je ispred ra. Ra je k'o text procesor - po slozenosti,
a i po mogucnostima ;)
:>> Najfleksibilniji softver koji sam ja do sada video je PCBoard. On
:>> uz sebe ima i PPL, skript ŕezik koji moze da zameni sve interne
:>> stvari u njega ugradjene - izuzetno mocna stvar. Jedina mana mu
:>> je sto nije ni
Pa i maximus ima script jezik (rece bole 2 :) ), i isto je toliko
fleksibilan, a pored obicnih funkcija koje se izvrsavaju sa [menu_cmd komanda]
postoje jos i druge. Doduse nisam video PCB sa sysop-ove strane, ali nisam
video ni jedan pcb za izmenjenim menijima, pa pocinjem da suÂnjam u njegovu
fleksibilnost (mada sa druge strane to i nije tako lose za korisnika, koji ne
mora da se privikavŠ na posebne komande na svakom BBS-u).
Jedina mana maximusa na koju sam naisao (a sigurno ce biti ispravljena u
nekoj od sledecih verzija ;) ) je to sto mu je maximalna brzina com. porta
38400 BPS, sto je malo za v.34 modem O;)))))>
email.884pedjak,
From: savetzčrahul.net (Kevin Savetz)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,alt.online-service,alt.bbs.internet,alt.fax,
alt.answers,comp.mail.misc,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
Followup-To: alt.internet.services
Date: 19 Nov 1994 11:00:15 GMT
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Approved: news-answers-requestčMIT.Edu
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Summary:
Answers the Frequently Asked Question "How can I send a fax from the Internet?"
Archive-name: internet-services/fax-faq
Last-Modified: 1994/9/2
Version: 0.6
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
version 0.6 - Sept 2 1994
Send comments & updates to Kevin Savetz <savetzčrahul.net>.
This document is copyright 1994 by Kevin M. Savetz. All rights
reserved. More legal stuff is near the end of this file. If you notice
that an Internet fax service is missing from this list, or information
herein needs updating, please send e-mail to "savetzčrahul.net".
To learn about my new book, YOUR INTERNET CONSULTANT - THE FAQS OF
LIFE ONLINE, send e-mail to savetzčrahul.net with a SUBJECT LINE of
"YIC".
*** Table of Contents
Can I send a fax from the Internet?
Free services
TPC.INT Remote Printing
Rabbit.rgm Sacramento Fax Service
University of Minnesota Fax Service
Swedish University Network
Commercial Services
InterFax
FAXiNET
Unigate
FaxLinq <New!>
Fax Services that are no more
Legal Stuff
Where to Find this Document
*** Can I send a fax from the Internet?
Indeed. There are several services for sending a fax via Internet mail
- some are free while others are pay services. At least one service
even lets you receive a fax via Internet mail. The e-mail-to-fax
services that I know about are discussed below. All the services
require that you can send and receive electronic mail to the Internet.
FREE SERVICES
*** TPC.INT Remote Printing
One fax-from-the-Internet service is the brainchild of Carl Malamud
(the creator of Internet Talk Radio) and Marshall Rose. They're doing
research on how to integrate special-purpose devices, like facsimile
printers, into the fabric of the Internet. It works simply enough -
send electronic mail to a special address, and soon after (if your
recipient's fax machine is in a covered area), out comes a freshly-
minted fax. You can send a fax to multiple fax machines, or even a
combination of faxes and traditional e-mail recipients. After the deed
is done, you will receive electronic mail telling you if your fax was
successfully sent or not. The service is free.
You can't send a fax just anywhere with this service. A variety of
companies, institutions and citizens linked to the Internet have
joined the experiment by linking a computer and fax modem to the 'net.
When an organization joins as a remote-fax server, it specifies what
areas to which they are willing to send faxes. When you send an e-mail
fax message, you (naturally) must include the phone number of the
recipient's fax machine. A computer looks at the phone number and
decides if any participating fax machines cover the area to which you
want to send a fax. If so, your message is routed to the appropriate
machine for faxation. Otherwise, you will receive electronic mail
informing you the fax couldn't be delivered.
To send a fax by e-mail, send a message
To: remote-printer.<info>čphonenumber.iddd.tpc.int
Where <info> contains information for the cover page. In <info>, "/"
is turned into a line break and "_" is turned into a space. For
example, the address:
To: remote-printer.Arlo_Cats/Room_123č12025551212.iddd.tpc.int
Would send a fax to +1-202-555-1212 with the cover page:
Please deliver this facsimile to:
Arlo Cats
Room 123
Note: There's another way to address faxes which seems to work more
reliable sometimes. Note that the phone number is backwards and the
numbers are separated by periods.
To: remote-printer.Arlo_Cats/Room_123č2.1.2.1.5.5.5.2.0.2.1.tpc.int
The following addresses can be used to obtain more information:
tpc-coveragečtown.hall.org - Current fax coverage (automated reply)
tpc-faqčtown.hall.org - Frequently Asked Questions (automated reply)
tpc-adminčtown.hall.org - Administrative questions (human)
tpc-rp-requestčaarnet.edu.au - Discussion list maintainer (human)
tpc-rpčaarnet.edu.au - Mailing list contributions (mailing list)
There's a WorldWideWeb page which provides information about the
TPC.INT fax service. If your Web browser can display forms, you can
even fill out a form and send a fax interactively. Use your favorite
Web browser to connect to:
http://linux1.balliol.ox.ac.uk/fax/faxsend.html
*** Rabbit.rgm Sacramento Fax Service
This service is a feature of a Sacramento, California-based bulletin
board system. You can use it to send faxes to areas that are a local
call from Sacramento, including the California State Legislature. This
service is run as a hobby and is connected to the Internet by UUCP, so
it can take from 12 to 24 hours for your fax to be delivered or for
the help files to reach you. It does not support multiple addressing:
only one fax number per message. It also does not send a cover page,
so be sure to start your message with a note directing it to someone's
attention. It will truncate faxes longer than two pages (that's 132
lines).
To use this fax service, send e-mail
To: faxlinečrabbit.rgm.com
Subject: local (7 digit) phone number, without area code
Body: <text of fax>
For complete usage information, send e-mail
To: requestčrabbit.rgm.com
Subject: 052
For a list of some legislators' fax numbers in the Sacramento area,
send e-mail:
To: requestčrabbit.rgm.com
Subject: 050
*** The University of Minnesota Fax Service
The University of Minnesota operates a fax gateway which allows
students and staff to send faxes anywhere. Even if you don't go to
UMinn, you may use the service to send faxes to folks at the
University and exchanges local to the campus.
The structure for e-mailing a fax is:
To: /pn=John.Doe/dd.fax=234-5678/čfax.tc.umn.edu
Put your recipient's name, with a period between the first and last
names, after pn= and put the seven digit fax number after the
characters dd.fax=. This name will be printed in the "To:" field on
the fax cover page. The area code for the University of Minnesota is
612, so you don't need to supply an area code.
For more information, send e-mail to ccsčmaroon.tc.umn.edu.
*** Swedish University Network
šThanks to Fredrik Ekman for the info!ć
The Swedish University Computer Network (sunet) has a national fax
service that can be used by anyone at no cost. Users in Sweden can use
it to send faxes all over the world but users outside Sweden can only
use it for telephone numbers within Sweden.
To send a fax to Arlo Cats at +46-87654321 (that's international
notation for Sweden, phone number 08/765 43 21) send e-mail to:
Arlo_CatsčF087654321.fax.sunet.se
Note that you will always have to preface the phone number with the
letter "F" for "fax".
Special characters in the body of your message are converted to
Swedish characters:
ASCII Becomes
ć a with circle accent
š a with diereses (two dots)
đ o with diereses
Ć A with circle accent
Š A with diereses
Đ O with diereses
ž e with right accent
For more information, e-mail "faxmasterčfax.sunet.se".
COMMERCIAL (PAY-FOR-USE) SERVICES
*** InterFax
InterFax allows you to send faxes via e-mail within the US or
internationally. InterFax is a fee-based service (billed to your
credit card) but, unlike the services listed above, InterFax lets you
send faxes anywhere, not just select locations. As of this writing,
InterFax costs $5 per month, which includes the first five fax pages.
Additional pages cost 50 cents each. There is a one-time sign-up
charge of $25. For further information, send e-mail to
faxmasterčpan.com, or contact InterFax at PO Box 162, Skippack, PA
19474 USA. (215) 584-0300. Fax: (215)584-1038.
*** FAXiNET
Another fax-by-mail service is FAXiNET, which lets you send any text
(ASCII) or PostScript documents to fax machines worldwide. FAXiNET can
send faxes to more than 50 countries and plans to add more. The
company can also receive faxes for you, which will be delivered to you
via electronic mail.
Accounts for individuals cost 75 cents per page, plus a one-time $20
activation fee. Additional services, including adding your custom logo
and signature to your faxes, are available at extra cost. Corporate
accounts are also available. More information is available from
AnyWare Associates, FAXiNET, 32 Woodland Road, Boston, MA 02130. (617)
522-8102. E-mail: salesčawa.com
*** Unigate
Unigate is another pay-for-use service that allows you to send faxes
to Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States. It also allows
you to receive faxes as electronic mail. Unigate also handles e-mail-
to-postal mail conversion. Here's their price structure:
For fax service USA to Russia: $1.59 / page
fax service from Russia to Canada: 1.79 / page
fax service from Russia to Europe: 2.59 / page
For postal-mail service USA-Russia: $1.00 / page
snail-mail service from Russia to Canada: 1.50 / page
snail-mail service from Russia to Europe: 1.79 / page
For more information, e-mail "yuričatmos.washington.edu".
*** FaxLinq
This service doesn't quite fit into the e-mail-to-fax arena, but
it's close enough to mention here. With FaxLinq, you may receive
facsimile messages as e-mail. Your correspondents send a fax to the
service's machine, which is converted to a TIFF file and sent to you
in a MIME-compliant e-mail message. (Your must be able to handle
MIME e-mail and view TIFF files - you can't receive faxes as ASCII
text.) FaxLinq is a one-way ticket: it doesn't handle e-mail-to-fax
transmissions.
There is an annual subscription fee of $39, which includes 10 pages
of facsimile transmission. Additional pages received cost $1 per
page. FaxLinq uses "deposit" accounts: you must pay in advance for
any faxes you expect to receive. Should a fax be received for you
when your account balance is not sufficient to cover the number of
pages received, you will be notified by e-mail.
For more information, e-mail infočantigone.com or write: Antigone
Press, 1310 Clayton Street, Suite 15, San Francisco CA 94114.
*** Fax Services That Are No More
Don't tell me about these. They have ceased to be.
- Digital Chicken is - or was - a service that let users send faxes to
Canadian government and citizens. Use TPC.INT instead.
- faxčcssnet.sanford.nc.us - no longer available due to hard drive
crash.
- Soviet FaxGate and PaperGate (gatemasterčelvis.sovusa.com...host
unknown)
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email.885postmast,
From: Zeljko.Stevanovic@f130.n103.z38.Setgate.setnet.co.yu (Zeljko Stevanovic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 07:32:28
* Citat: Marko Milivojevic --> "Marko Nesovic"
* Tema : Re: email
MM> Nije Maximus toliko komplikovan, barem meni... Ima par
MM> velikih mana, na primer svo se sve podesava peske u editoru,
G. to ti potice iz popularnog UNIX-a !!
MM> drugo, ima slabu podrsku za vise mreza, itd...
Zato je TeleGard super !!!!
Sva podesavanja i izmene mogu se vrsiti on-line ... Pozoves svoj BBS i onda
dodas neku konferenciju file dir.. Izmenis poruke ..
Samo je problem sto treba dovuci iz inostranstva objasnjenje za podesavanje
(samo da imam spisak komandi menija jer on interno ima CMD kod komande koji
je od 2 slova, pa racunaj koliko ima mogucnosti..)
nema ga na SimTel CD-u gde sam nasao pogonski program, i jos sto nemam
Blue Wave za njega...Inace podrzava i InterNet mail(instaliras UUCP za DOS
i imas Bint..)
... IBM-PC - Imbecil Bussines Machine - Permanently Craches
* Origin: SETNet - Exodus BBS, Novi Beograd #137-477# (38:103/130)
email.886postmast,
From: markom@setnet.co.yu (Marko Milivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 10:00:50
-=> Reply to: Zeljko Stevanovic <=-
ZS> nemam Blue Wave za njega...Inace podrzava i InterNet mail(instaliras
ZS> UUCP za DOS i imas Bint..)
TO ima i najnoviju UltraBBS, poslacu u sledecoj poruci sta
ima novo u UBBS-u 3.02. :-)
-=> MM <=-
... Ljudozder ne prezire coveka!!!
* Origin: SETNet - Exodus BBS, Novi Beograd #137-477# (38:103/130)
email.887postmast,
From: markom@setnet.co.yu (Marko Milivojevic)
Subject: UltraBBS 3.02
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 13:57:48
Area Fine.Net, Msg#116, 14.01.95 08:54:30
From: Damir Colak
To: Marko Milivojevic
UltraBBS Version History File
-----------------------------
Upgrade instructions follow each new version's entry; if you are upgrading
past one or more versions, be sure to follow all upgrade steps in order. If
you wish to keep your current configuration, etc when upgrading versions,be
sure not to overwrite files such as UBBS.DAT, UBBS.REG, .BAT files,the entire
FILES directory, etc when unZIPping the new version. Remember to copy the
UTI*.EXE, etc files to all directories where they are used/needed!
If you are running a version PRIOR to 2.09, PLEASE FIRST CONVERT TO UBBS2.09
The following information applies ONLY to version 2.09 and version 3.01.
1/10/94. Release of UltraBBS v3.01
Improvements include:
Almost too numerous to mention. But here goes: <grin>
Many 2.09 bugs are fixed. Including:
Quoting bug.
Color-change-at-more-prompt-bug.
Offline reading bugs (bunch of them).
Vastly faster filebase and userbase operations. COMPLEX search operations
using the Z command may be performed. Btree routines have been implemented
to speed up this command (as well as the L and N commands) greatly.
New $QUOTE$ and $HISTORYxyy$ variables for files to implement a standard
QUOTES.DAT file. $HISTORYxyy$ uses the popular 'Today in History' data
files.
Handle/alias support has been added, also for chat mode. Conferences that
do not permit aliases will simply take the 'real' account name.
User Record now includes new fields:
Handle (alias),
Mother's name (for security),
Master User (will not be logged off, allowed unlimited time
unlimited idle time, can log in even if on another node, or if
BBS is down. Master user can bring down ubbs or log off all callers).
Time Mask (restricting user logons to certain hours of the day),
Full Address and City lines (2 line addresses now).
Logon Macro - a sequence of UltraBBS commands that are executed at login.
allows users to customize the behaviour of the system.
File Record now includes new fields:
RR - generate a Return Receipt to sysop when file is downloaded.
Invisible - file may be downloaded but will NOT be listed in any display.
1 DL - file is killed after a single download.
Always New - file will always be shown as a new file.
Offline - file will be declared to be offline if users request it.
Door Record includes new fields:
Temporarily Down - users will be shown a message when they try to run.
Single User - UltraBBS will only permit ONE user at a time into the door.
In Use flag - set when a user is in the door.
BBS List now includes a second description line.
Additional Commands:
AUTO - autopost command. Users may leave messages for the next callers
AUTOSCAN - look at autoposted messages.
BR)OADCAST (or (12)) Send a 5 line message to all other nodes.
VER)SION - gives information on the version of UltraBBS being run, as well
as some other information including free memory on this node.
Additional Sysop level commands:
13 - Clear a node record.
14 - Clear/set door flags (including temporarily down and in use)
15 - Manipulate message base pointers
16 - BBS UP/DOWN. Allows a master user to take the BBS down, with a 5
line message being shown to current callers (before logging them off)
and which will also be shown to new callers (who are then forced off)
until another 16 command is issued.
New Features in Nodechat:
(BR)oadcast available from within nodechat.
(WH)o's online available.
(H)andle allows you to temporarily set a name within Nodechat. Vanishes
upon exit.
When you first type a character, your NAME and NODE NUMBER are put before
this character for others to see WHO is typing.
COLORS are selected based on order of entry into the chat channel, so that
they will not recycle until at least 8 users are in the same conversation.
Channels 90-99 are for private chats ONLY.
Channels 1-89 are for PUBLIC NAMED Chats. The first user to enter such a
channel may select a name (like 'Friday Bar & Grill') and optionally select
a password. Others are challenged for such a password to get into the chat.
(L)ist lists available chats.
New Features in Conference Record:
Conferences may be Read Only (posts will be disallowed).
Conferences may be declared as NETWORKED. Currently FidoNet and UUCP style
are supported.
Conferences may be decleard as NETMAIL. Users are prompted for an address
and if a FidoNet conference the node address is checked for validity.
For UUCP, the address is checked to contain a '@' and no spaces.
Conferences may have a WARNING file, shown to users prior to a post
(for example, warning a user that in a certain conference certain topics are
prohibited).
Miscellaneous new features:
.DIZ and .SDI files are fully supported. Upon upload if such a file is
found, the description for the file is taken from that file rather than
from the user.
MANAGER and SETUP have been renamed as U3MANAGE and U3SETUP (too many things
are having programs called 'setup' these days!).
U3MANAGE allows the importation of files into the filebase from FILES.BBS
files as well as from .TIC files (along with the older DIR and DOS Text
modes).
U3MANAGE now has a much faster pack that does not use QSORT anymore!
Y)our mail scan now shows the MOST RECENT MESSAGE date for each conference.
The Conference prompt also shows the MOST RECENT MESSAGE date.
The Goodbye Function now allows one to leave a message to the sysop, and
has a 10 second countdown that may be aborted.
Message Encryption is now supported, via the file UBBSENC.DAT in the
FILEBASE.DAT directory. If its missing users get a message 'Encryption
not supported'. If a message is encrypted, noone can read it, and it would
take hundreds of years with powerful computers to break it.
A sysop can kill an encrypted message, but NOT read it.
Upgrade Instructions from 2.09:
FIRST BACK UP YOUR FILES!
Copy CVTUBBS.EXE into the UBBS directory, together with MAKENDX.EXE and
MYSORT.EXE.
Type CVTUBBS ubbs.dat (where ubbs.dat is a valid 2.09 file).
This program will back up ALL files to the directory \OLDU209, and will
convert all files into 3.01 format.
Please contact Craig Baker at
Voice: 303-444-7071 or 642-7534 (both voice) with any problems.
Pinecliffe BBS: 303-642-7463. V32bis.
Internet: cdb@pinecliffe.com
--- cut ---
Poruka preuzeta sa Fine Net-a.
-=> MM <=-
... Samo mrtva telefonska centrala je dobra telefonska centrala
* Origin: SETNet - Exodus BBS, Novi Beograd #137-477# (38:103/130)
email.888postmast,
From: Predrag_Supurovic@f101.n101.z38.Setgate.setnet.co.yu (Predrag_Supurovic)
Subject: Statistics
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:42:00
Maintaned by CONFERENCE STATISTICS SHELL - (c)1995 by Predrag Supurovic
=======================================================================
Conference NET.EMAIL maintained on 10.01.95. for 7 days backward.
QRATIO Mail Statistics V1.9 by Act Of Impulse.
----------------------------------------------
Total messages found in this area : 748
Number of messages covered in report: 31
Processed period from: 10-1-1995 to 1-1-2074
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Blacklist-Top 10 of the Quoters.
Nr Total Quoted Quote
Name Address Msg Lines Lines: Ratio:
---- ------- --- ----- ------ ------
1. Slobodan Popovic......... 38:103/1 1 18 10 55.56%
2. Balsa Stipcevic.......... 38:103/114 1 6 3 50.00%
3. "Zeljko Jovanovic"....... 38:103/120 1 11 5 45.45%
4. "Novica Milic"........... 38:103/120 1 9 4 44.44%
5. Aleksander Vasiljevic.... 38:103/120 3 39 17 43.59%
6. "Slobodan Marinkovic".... 38:103/120 1 18 7 38.89%
7. Bosko Radivojevic........ 38:103/120 3 49 15 30.61%
8. "Marko Nesovic".......... 38:103/120 2 20 6 30.00%
9. "Pavle Pekovic".......... 38:103/120 1 9 2 22.22%
10. Zeljko Stevanovic........ 38:103/130 1 14 3 21.43%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 10 of the writers.
Total Average Quote
Name Msgs: Pct. Byte/Msg Ratio:
---- ----- ----- -------- ------
1. Aleksander Vasiljevic 3 9.7% 542 43.59%
2. Bosko Radivojevic 3 9.7% 820 30.61%
3. Marko Milivojevic 3 9.7% 2565 7.80%
4. Radivoje Zonjic 3 9.7% 521 2.56%
5. Radivoje D. Zonjic 2 6.5% 761 6.45%
6. "Marko Nesovic" 2 6.5% 524 30.00%
7. Balsa Stipcevic 1 3.2% 320 50.00%
8. "Zeljko Jovanovic" 1 3.2% 444 45.45%
9. "Pavle Pekovic" 1 3.2% 443 22.22%
10. Zeljko Stevanovic 1 3.2% 796 21.43%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 5 of the receivers.
Total
Name Msgs: Pct.
---- ----- -----
1. All 21 67.7%
2. (crosspost 1) All 5 16.1%
3. Marko Milivojevic 2 6.5%
4. "Marko Nesovic" 2 6.5%
5. Zeljko Stevanovic 1 3.2%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 7 of the subjects.
Subject Nr.
------- ---
1. email....................................................... 18
2. FreeBSD 2.0 u YUCCA......................................... 5
3. il--- FMail/386 1.0g
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.889postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:17:01 GMT
Izvesni "Marko Nesovic" <violator@sezam.UUCP> rece:
> Nije tacno, daleko je ispred ra. Ra je k'o text procesor - po slozenosti,
> a i po mogucnostima ;)
:)) To je BBS SW. za ljude koji hoce da brzo/lako/i bez mnogo truda na
sklepaju neki BBS. U RA-u se ne moze uraditi ono sto se moze u Maximusu ili
PCBoardu.
> Pa i maximus ima script jezik (rece bole 2 :) ), i isto je toliko
> fleksibilan, a pored obicnih funkcija koje se izvrsavaju sa [menu_cmd komanda]
Pa sto 2 ? :) Video sam jedan americki (Samo log doduse) BBS, na Maximusu
...Taj covek je fenomen:) BBS je haos, odn. izmenjen iz korena! Provalio
sam da je Maximus jedino po onom na pocetku (Maximus...)
> Jedina mana maximusa na koju sam naisao (a sigurno ce biti ispravljena u
> nekoj od sledecih verzija ;) ) je to sto mu je maximalna brzina com. porta
> 38400 BPS, sto je malo za v.34 modem O;)))))>
Haaa:) Ja na mojoj centrali ne mogu ni 2400 posteno:)
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.890postmast,
From: spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic)
Subject: email
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 23:04:03
* Originally from: Bosko Radivojevic
* Originally to: All
> Ne znam, Maximus je zgodan, ali je po mogucnostima tu negde u
> klasi Remote Accessa (sad ce Maximusovci da poshize, ali tacno je :).
BR> Pa sad da ce da posize - posizece, ali da je tacno i nije. Ne mogu
BR> da kazem da je NAJBOLJI (posto PCBoard nisam imao prilike da vidim
BR> izbliza) a da je u klasi RA.. Pa nemojmo se vredjati:) RA je dobar za
BR> sysope, koji nece da se bahcu sa bbs-om mnogo, nego da na lagodan nacin
BR> nameste da sve radi - i to je to. Naprotiv, Maximus, je drugaciji (uvek
BR> mozes original da stavis i sve ce da radi, ali..) Njega mozes mnooogo
BR> vise izmenjati, dodati sta tebi odgovara, kombinovati menije, praviti
BR> svoje pod programe (Mecca, MUL) itd..
OK, da zakljucimo (gnevni Sysopi, umirite se :) - Maximus je
fleksibilniji od RA, ali je zato RA laksi za postavljanje i koriscenje
od strane Sysopa. Znaci - ko voli nek' izvoli.
> PD ni ShareWare, vec komercijalan softver. Ali, nas narod ima nacina
> da se i s tim bori... ;)
BR> Eh... Jos koliko ce to trajati? Niko ne zna, ali ja sam nesto nacuo
BR> (jos letos) da je usvojen neki zakon protiv Piratizacije software-a
BR> (ali vidim Svet Kompjutera jos pun oglasa...). Po meni to je lose za
BR> nas slobodne :) umetnike, ali... ko zna:)
Pa davno je kod nas nesto slicno usvojeno, ali koliko se postuje
vidis i sam... :>>
... Sine, nemoj da ljuljas babu, nije se zato obesila!
* Origin: SETNet - Belgrade HUB1 (38:103/1)
email.891postmast,
From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 01:24:10 GMT
Aleksander Vasiljevic (vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote:
: Radivoje Zonjic (rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU) wrote:
: -> Milan Popovic (ayatolah@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
: -> : *)*)From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
: -> : *) ^^^
: -> : *)
: -> : *) Hkakm...;)
: -> : Don't worry, Zed's dead, babe. @;)
: -> Sta ovo znaci, ha?
: -> Rade
: Nisi gledao 'Petparacke price'? Gledaj obavezno! :)
Ama gledao sam film, ali se ne secam pomenute recenice... Mozda da me podsetis?
email.892postmast,
From: BERI@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU (Berislav Todorovic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 11:53:54 GMT
In <sezam$email:01.017.4157@sezam> "Slobodan Marinkovic" writes:
>> Jesmo odseceni sa Bitnet-a, ali ako se ne varam i posle uvodjenja
>> sankcija ostali smo "clanovi". I dalje si mogao da saljes mail iz sveta
>> na @YUBGEF51.BITNET, a da ti se on ne vrati sa porukom "incorrect
>> address". Cak su Austrijanci obecali ;) da se sav mail upucen na YUBG****
>> snima na trake i da ce kad ponovo bude uspostavljen saobracaj sve poruke
>> biti urucene. (Imam utisak da su koristili /dev/null traku ;)
Slazem se. Trebalo je oko mesec dana da se naprave nove tabele, potom da ih
pokupe administratori iz svojih mailbox-ova i da ih nameste. Neki vredniji
su to odmah uradili, a ostali ... hmmm ... imaju tabele stare i po dve
godine.
Sto se tice gesta nasih bivsih suseda, to je tacno - oni su to obecali, ali
znas kako se kaze: obecanje - ludom radovanje ... ;-))) Njihov covek u
Lincu nije mogao da se pomiri sa cinjenicom da smo odseceni. Cak je dva-tri
dana pred "makaze" poslao mail nasim tadasnjim administratorima (Miri Tasic
i Zvonku Orsolicu) u kome ih je upozorio sta ce biti i obecao backup ...
Verovatno je i radio backup dok mu se nije smucilo - jer su sankcije uzele
maha ...
Pozdrav,
Beri
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| /|\ UBBG System administrator |
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email.893postmast,
From: Bojan.Jovanovic@f110.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Bojan Jovanovic)
Subject: Re: modem
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 01:44:20
>>Da li je to nov modem ?! i ako jeste da li je pod garancijom ?
Modem je nov, garancija postoji (5godina), ali u inostranstvu.
Modem zahteva 386+ jer softver radi pod WIN, i deo v42bis je pod
softversi (kao sto rekoh mesano softversko - hardversko resenje). Na mojoj 486tici sam postigao 1650cps. Inace modemima pada cena napolju tako da sam i ja snizio cenu na 160dem....
Bojan Jovanovic
* Origin: # New Age # 23-06h # Beograd # SETNet: (38:103/110)
email.894postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: email
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:38:00
To: "Marko Nesovic" <violator@sezam.UUCP>
>postoje jos i druge. Doduse nisam video PCB sa sysop-ove
>strane, ali nisam video ni jedan pcb za izmenjenim menijima, pa pocinjem da
>su njam u njegovu fleksibilnost
PCB je najbolji od programa koji se kod nas koriste. Problem je u tome
sto mora da bude registrovan za pravu upotrebu. To je razlog zasto su kod
nas svi PCBoard BBS-ovi isti...
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.898postmast,
From: bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 02:25:55 GMT
Izvesni rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic) rece:
> : Nisi gledao 'Petparacke price'? Gledaj obavezno! :)
>
> Ama gledao sam film, ali se ne secam pomenute recenice... Mozda da me podsetis?
Jel to ono kad ih onaj promasi u stanu!?
Pozdravlja Vas,
Bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu
email.899postmast,
From: vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksander Vasiljevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 23:53:02 GMT
Bosko Radivojevic (bole@Mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu) wrote:
-> Izvesni rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje D. Zonjic) rece:
-> > : Nisi gledao 'Petparacke price'? Gledaj obavezno! :)
-> >
-> > Ama gledao sam film, ali se ne secam pomenute recenice... Mozda da me podsetis?
-> Jel to ono kad ih onaj promasi u stanu!?
ma jock, toje ono kad Brus Vilis upuca Travoltu, i pobegne sa ribom na motoru,
a riba ga pita nesto (valjda, gde je Zed) i on kaze "Zed's dead, babe"
Vasa
email.900postmast,
From: vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksander Vasiljevic)
Subject: Re: Statistics
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 00:02:38 GMT
Predrag_Supurovic (Predrag_Supurovic@f101.n101.z38.Setgate.setnet.co.yu) wrote:
-> Maintaned by CONFERENCE STATISTICS SHELL - (c)1995 by Predrag Supurovic
-> =======================================================================
-> 5. Aleksander Vasiljevic.... 38:103/120 3 39 17 43.59%
-> 1. Aleksander Vasiljevic 3 9.7% 542 43.59%
I kako sad ja ovo da shvatim? :)
Vasa
email.903postmast,
From: vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksander Vasiljevic)
Subject: Re: Statistics
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 00:02:38 GMT
Predrag_Supurovic (Predrag_Supurovic@f101.n101.z38.Setgate.setnet.co.yu) wrote:
-> Maintaned by CONFERENCE STATISTICS SHELL - (c)1995 by Predrag Supurovic
-> =======================================================================
-> 5. Aleksander Vasiljevic.... 38:103/120 3 39 17 43.59%
-> 1. Aleksander Vasiljevic 3 9.7% 542 43.59%
I kako sad ja ovo da shvatim? :)
Vasa
email.904madamov,
Ima li neko adresu bilo kakvog ftp mailera napolju? Znam da smo sa BITNET-a
ranije koristili jedan takav, ali ne mogu nigde da iskopam njegovu Internet
adresu. Imam account na jednom stranom BBS-u sa pravom pristupa Internet mailu,
nema ftp, pa bi mi trebala neka adresa, ukoliko tako nešto postoji. A sigurno
postoji, mi koristismo sa BITNET-a ftp na taj način.
email.905bulaja,
-> #903, postmastAleksander Vasiljevic (vasa@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote:
│I kako sad ja ovo da shvatim? :)
└───
Verovatno da bi trebalo dodati još i statistiku dupliranih poruka :).
email.906pedjak,
-> #904, madamov> Ima li neko adresu bilo kakvog ftp mailera napolju? Znam da smo sa
> BITNET-a ranije koristili jedan takav, ali ne mogu nigde da iskopam
> njegovu Internet adresu. Imam account na jednom stranom BBS-u sa
> pravom pristupa Internet mailu, nema ftp, pa bi mi trebala neka
> adresa, ukoliko tako nešto postoji. A sigurno postoji, mi koristismo
> sa BITNET-a ftp na taj način.
If you do not have FTP access to the mirrors of SimTel, the Coast to
Coast Software Repository (tm), FTP may be performed through the mail
by various ftp-mail servers.
For Internet sites: ftpmailčdecwrl.dec.com
For uucp sites: ...!decwrl!ftpmail
Location EARN/BITNET Internet
-------------- ---------------- ----------------------------------
In U.S.A.: LISTSERVčNDSUVM1 LISTSERVčVM1.NODAK.EDU
In U.S.A.: LISTSERVčRPITSVM LISTSERVčVM.ITS.RPI.EDU
In Austria: TRICKLEčAWIWUW11 TRICKLEčAWIWUW11.WU-WIEN.AC.AT
In Colombia: TRICKLEčUNALCOL TRICKLEčUNALCOL.UNAL.EDU.CO
In France: TRICKLEčFRMOP11 TRICKLEčFRMOP11.CNUSC.FR
In Germany: TRICKLEčDEARN TRICKLEčVM.GMD.DE
In Israel: TRICKLEčTAUNIVM TRICKLEčVM.TAU.AC.IL
In Italy: TRICKLEčIMIPOLI TRICKLEčIMIPOLI.CDC.POLIMI.IT
In Netherlands: TRICKLEčHEARN TRICKLEčHEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL
In Poland: TRICKLEčPLEARN TRICKLEčPLEARN.EDU.PL
In Sweden: TRICKLEčSEARN TRICKLEčSEARN.SUNET.SE
In Turkey: TRICKLEčTREARN TRICKLEčVM3090.EGE.EDU.TR
In Turkey: TRICKLEčTRMETU TRICKLEč3090.CC.METU.EDU.TR
Send this command to LISTSERV to get its help file: GET PDGET HELP
Send this command to TRICKLE to get its help file: /HELP
email.909postmast,
From: Zoran.Doroslovac@f119.n111.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Zoran Doroslovac)
Subject: Rhinoceros Bbs
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 17:10:12
******************* O B A V E S T E NJ E ******************
Zbog preseljenja Rhinoceros BBS ce od 27. 01.95. raditi privremeno na
dva noda. Tel. su 021 52-739 i 021 25-119. Izvinjavamo se korisnicima
zbog smetnji koje ce eventualno imati zbog toga.
RHINOCEROS BBS
---- Home of Off-Line Xpress 805-395-0650
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53 218 * (38:111/119)
email.910postmast,
From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:08:49 GMT
Milan Adamov (madamov@sezam.UUCP) reche:
/* > Ima li neko adresu bilo kakvog ftp mailera napolju? Znam da smo sa BITNET-a
/* >ranije koristili jedan takav, ali ne mogu nigde da iskopam njegovu Internet
/* >adresu. Imam account na jednom stranom BBS-u sa pravom pristupa Internet mailu,
/* >nema ftp, pa bi mi trebala neka adresa, ukoliko tako nesto postoji. A sigurno
/* >postoji, mi koristismo sa BITNET-a ftp na taj nacin.
Na Internetu postoji servis FTP-BY-MAIL i u nastavku ti shaljem
kratak help za rad sa njim...
Pozdrav,
Bane
-----------------------------(cut here)-------------------------------
==============================================================================
FTP-BY-MAIL SERVIS
==============================================================================
>>> ftpmail is not a supported service. From time to time it stops working;
>>> we will tend to it when we get the time. Outages of a week or more are not
>>> abnormal.
>>> commands are:
reply <MAILADDR> set reply addr, since headers are usually wrong
connect [HOST [USER [PASS [ACCT]]]]
defaults to gatekeeper.dec.com, anonymous
ascii files grabbed are printable ascii
binary files grabbed are compressed or tar or both
chdir PLACE "get" and "ls" commands are relative to PLACE
(only one CHDIR per ftpmail session,
and it executes before any LS/DIR/GETs)
compress compress binaries using Lempel-Ziv encoding
compact compress binaries using Huffman encoding
uuencode binary files will be mailed in uuencode format
btoa binary files will be mailed in btoa format
chunksize SIZE split files into SIZE-byte chunks (def: 64000)
ls (or dir) PLACE short (long) directory listing
index THING search for THING in ftp server's index
get FILE get a file and have it mailed to you
(max 10 GET's per ftpmail session)
quit terminate script, ignore rest of mail message
(use if you have a .signature or
are a VMSMAIL user)
>>> notes:
-> you should send complaints to the ftpmail-admin address. our
postmaster does not handle ftpmail problems and you can save her
the trouble of forwarding your complaints by just mailing them to
the right address. the "ftpmail-request" address is gone; don't
use it.
-> the "index" command depends on the "SITE EXEC INDEX" feature of
some ftp servers. Gatekeeper.dec.com originated this feature,
and ftp.uu.net duplicated it (with a format change to the output,
naturally). Wuarchive.wustl.edu also has this feature, though
their index seems to be empty. The source for an ftpd that
supports this feature is on Gatekeeper.DEC.COM in /pub/DEC/gwtools.
-> a password of "" or '' will be sent as a null string. if you need
this you will know it, if you don't, you won't.
-> the "Subject:" of your request will be contained in the "Subject:"
of all of ftpmail's responses to you regarding that request. You
can therefore use it to "tag" different requests if you have more
than one outstanding at any given time.
-> you must give a "connect" command, default host is
gatekeeper.dec.com, default user is anonymous, default
password is your mail address with a hyphen prepended.
-> binary files will not be compressed unless 'compress' or 'compact'
command is given; use this if at all possible, it helps a lot.
note that many files are already compressed. if you use any of
the binary-file qualifiers (compress, compact, uuencode, btoa)
without setting 'binary' first, your session will abort in error.
-> binary files will always be formatted into printable ASCII
with "btoa" or "uuencode" (default is "btoa"). if you don't
use the "binary" command, ftpmail will cheerfully try to mail
you the binary data, which will absolutely, positively fail.
-> all retrieved files will be split into chunks and mailed. the
size of the chunk is 64000 characters unless you change it with
the "chunksize" command. CompuServe users will need to set this
to 49000. there is no way to set it higher than 100000, so please
don't ask.
-> if you ask for more than 10 files in a session, you will receive
an error message and your entire request will be rejected.
-> VMS/DOS/Mac versions of uudecode, atob, compress and compact
are available, ask your LOCAL wizard about them if you can't
locate them (but try gatekeeper.dec.com in /archive/pub/VMS
if you're still using a VMS system.)
-> several mail unsplitters are hiding on gatekeeper.dec.com in
/pub/mail/ua/misc/unsplit. there is one in c, one in perl,
and one in VMS DCL.
-> there is no way to request only certain parts of a file and we
do not plan to add one in the near future, so please don't ask.
-> there is no way to delete things from the queue or to find out
the status of things in the queue, and we do not plan to add
either feature in the near future, so please don't ask.
>>> examples:
-> connect to gatekeeper.dec.com and get a root directory listing:
connect
ls
quit
-> connect to gatekeeper.dec.com and get the README.ftp file:
connect
get README.ftp
quit
-> connect to gatekeeper.dec.com and get the gnuemacs sources:
connect
binary
uuencode
chdir /pub/GNU
get emacs-18.58.tar.Z
quit
-> connect to ftp.uu.net as anonymous and get a root directory list:
connect ftp.uu.net
binary
chdir /index/master
get by-name.Z
quit
Ftpmail was written by Paul Vixie while at the DEC Western Research Laboratory
and at the DEC Network Systems Laboratory, from 1989-1993. Ftpmail is not a
product or service of Digital Equipment Corporation and no support or warranty
is expressed or implied.
-------------------------------(cut here)----------------------------------
===========================================================================
Branislav Subotic Belgrade YUGOSLAVIA Email: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu
===========================================================================
You will become rich and famous unless you don't.
email.911postmast,
From: cirrus@mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Ivan Pernjakovic)
Subject: mrsys2
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:04:47 GMT
Ja se izvinjavam, ali jel bi mogao neko da mi objasni kako da dobijem
nalog za mrsys2 nod. Sve sam pokusao, ali ne ide. Hvala.
Pozdrav, >>> Cirrus <<<
email.912postmast,
From: flora@mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu (Floremin Mihailovsky)
Subject: Re: mrsys2
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 03:20:38 GMT
Ivan Pernjakovic (cirrus@mrsys1.MR-Net.co.yu) wrote:
> Ja se izvinjavam, ali jel bi mogao neko da mi objasni kako da dobijem
> nalog za mrsys2 nod. Sve sam pokusao, ali ne ide. Hvala.
Po prijavljivanju na sistem dobija se sledeca poruka:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Za registrovane korisnike MR-NET-a otvoren je i MRSYS2 nod. Radi na
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Linuxu i sluzi prevashodno za download fajlova i ucenje Linux-a.
Svakih 7 dana smenjivace se po jedan CD. Za sada lista CD-ova izgleda
ovako:
- Shareware no. 13
- Shareware no. 14
- Internet Info
MRSYS2 ce raditi svakog dana od 18-07h. Za rad na njemu vam treba nalog.
Da bi ste dosli do njega posaljite mail na adresu:
mrsys2@mrsys1.mr-net.co.yu
sa svojim podacima, zeljenim username i password-om. U najkracemo roku
dobicete nalog na MRSYS2. Imacete pravi shell (bash, tcsh, sh) i jos
mnogo toga. Svratite!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dakle, ako si registrovani korisnik samo 'postupi po naredjenju' ;)
Istina, ovaj najkraci rok je u mom slucaju potrajao 3-4 dana :(
Pozdrav, FLORA.
email.913mickeyl,
email.914mickeyl,
Ima li nekog da mi kaže šta se dešava sa ZAMIR-BG BBS-om? Već par dana
zvoni u prazno. Pošto se ova konferencija razmenjuje sa BeoNet-om, nadam
se da će mi neko sa ZAMIR-a (npr. M. Hristodulo) odgovoriti šta je to sa
Zamir BBS-om.
Pozdrav.
email.915mdave,
-> #910, postmastSubject: Re: email
MD> From: bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav)
MD> Na Internetu postoji servis FTP-BY-MAIL i u nastavku ti shaljem
MD> kratak help za rad sa njim...
Samo vi objavljujte servise i nastavke...i nemojte se čuditi
kad vrlo brzo zabrane pristup korisnicima iz YU.
email.916madamov,
-> #906, pedjak
Puno hvala na spisku, probaću nešto preko tih adresa.
email.917madamov,
-> #910, postmast
> bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu (Subotic Branislav) wrote:
>
> Na Internetu postoji servis FTP-BY-MAIL i u nastavku ti shaljem kratak help
za
> rad sa njim...
Puno hvala i tebi.
email.918violator,
-> #915, mdave:>> Samo vi objavljujte servise i nastavke...i nemojte se
:>> čuditi
:>> kad vrlo brzo zabrane pristup korisnicima iz YU.
Mozda nisi°─ primetio,ű▀ ali covek je rekao da i´kma ű pristup nekom
stranom sistemu koji ima samo internet mail.
email.919madamov,
-> #915, mdave
> Samo vi objavljujte servise i nastavke
Meni neće, jer ću ovo što sam tražio koristiti iz Švajcarske, tj. nemam
nameru da naručujem fajlove mailom na osmeh ili neku drugu mašinu.
email.920pyc.guy,
-> #918, violator~~~ Mozda nisi°─ primetio,ű▀ ali covek je rekao da i´kma ű
~~~ pristup nekom stranom sistemu koji ima samo internet mail.
Pa sta to ima veze? Kao da ovde nigde ne postoji e-mail?
Pyc
email.921aleck,
-> #912, postmast>> Dakle, ako si registrovani korisnik samo 'postupi po naredjenju' ;)
>> Istina, ovaj najkraci rok je u mom slucaju potrajao 3-4 dana :(
Koliko je registracija?
email.922mdave,
-> #919, madamovSubject: Re: email
MD> > Samo vi objavljujte servise i nastavke
MD>
MD> Meni neće, jer ću ovo što sam tražio koristiti iz Švajcarske, tj.
MD> nemam nameru da naručujem fajlove mailom na osmeh ili neku drugu
MD> mašinu.
Nije tebi ni bilo upućeno. :)
email.923madamov,
-> #922, mdave
> Nije tebi ni bilo upućeno. :)
Onda u redu. B) Mada sam već bio kritikovan od nekih prijatelja što to
tražim na javnom mestu, kao sad će svako da krene da naručuje fajlove, a ono se
ispostavi da ceo grad zna ove adrese koje dobih ovde. B)
email.924postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: crosspost
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 12:16:00
Hteo bih nesto da pitam. Zasto su u poslednje vreme toliko ucestale
crosspost poruke? Prvo neko napise crosspost u tri konferencije, pa mu
onda neko odgovori, opet kao crosspost u te tri konferecnije, pa onda
reply na reply opet u tri konferencije...
Zar nije dovoljna jedna?
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.925postmast,
From: Mario.Zlatovic@f113.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Mario Zlatovic)
Subject: Re: Compuserve
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:37:01
-> I napisa Predrag Supurovic, dana 21 Jan 95 22:19, <-
-> u poruci za osobu All <-
PS> Moze li mi neko reci gde se najblize moze pristupiti COMPUSERVE-u?
Ovo je ono sto ja imam:
Grad Zemlja 1200/2400 baud 9600 baud
Amsterdam Holandija +20-688-00-85 +20-688-00-85
Brusseles Belgija +2-215-0530 +2-215-0530
Munchen Nemacka +89-66-53-01-70 +89-66-53-01-70
Paris Francuska +1-47-89-39-40 +1-47-89-39-40
Stocholm Svedska +8-150-500 +8-150-500
Zurich Svajcarska +1-273-1028 +1-273-1028
Umesto + ides sa : 99-<pozivni za zemlju>-....
Inace, ja sam ga u po bela dana dobijao preko Ciriha, na 2400 bolje
nego bilo koji Beogradski BBS (thanks to PTT).
Pazi, za CompuServe je 7-E-1 (al' to sigurno znas).
Izostavio sam tel. brojeve za US, Kanadu i Hong Kong. Nadam se da se
ne ljutis :)
radagast
PS: 'El imas temporary User ID Number, ili si sretnik sa pravim ID i
Pass-om ?
... No tags today....
* Origin: * Milliways * BELGRADE * Serbia * SETNet Address (38:103/113)
email.926postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: Compuserve
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 12:10:00
>PS: 'El imas temporary User ID Number, ili si sretnik sa
>pravim ID i Pass-om ?
Ma nije za mene... treba nekom prijatelju koji treba da se preko
Compuserve-a poveze sa nekom firmom koja je tu otvorila neki user
koji je besplatan, ali sluzi samo za kontakt sa tm firmom. Ne znam
tacno o cemu se radi ali je tako nekako.
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.927gaston,
HI
ne znam da li je ovo pravo mesto, ali ja pravije ne znam.
Jako mi je potrebna vez´ka sa Zagrebom prekonekog stranog ili domaceg BBS-a.
Kako ?
ako je o tome bilo reci ranije, neka mi neko da referencu na poruku i
konferenciju.
Unapred hvala
email.928novim,
-> #927, gaston" Jako mi je potrebna vez´ka sa Zagrebom prekonekog stranog ili domaceg
" BBS-a. Kako ?
BBS ZaMir ima tu vezu (razmenu maila). Tel. 011/632 566 (pristup je
slobodan).
email.929babbage,
Pre neki dan dobio sam pristup na UBBG - i ništa mi nije jasno!
Molio bih nekoga da mi pošalje spisak komandi VMS-a (ili-već-kako-se-zove OS-a
na kom radi UBBG) ili da me uputi na brojeve poruka u kojima je to razjašnjeno.
babbage
P.S.
Nešto sam načuo da UBBG ima i par nodova na normalnim (9600/14400) brzinama.
Da li je to tačno i ako jeste na kojie brojeve se ti nodovi "odazivaju".
email.930novim,
-> #929, babbage" Pre neki dan dobio sam pristup na UBBG - i ništa mi nije jasno!
" Molio bih nekoga da mi pošalje spisak komandi VMS-a
" (ili-već-kako-se-zove OS-a na kom radi UBBG) ili da me uputi na brojeve
" poruka u kojima je to razjašnjeno.
Za početak (osnovne operacije na VMS-u) pogledaj dodatak Dejana
Ristanovića o "Računarskim komunikacijama" (letošnji "Računari"). Ako
ti treba više, javi na mail pa da ti pošaljem jedan icrpniji fajl o
samom VMS/VAX-u.
Inača, na samom VMS-u - i UBBG-u - imaš dosta iscrpan help. Kucaj
help komanda
(ili samo help, za početak), a imaš i uputstva ("obavestenja").
Nije tako teško, ni strašno. :)