email.1990postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:11 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-16-95 01:23 Aleckemailezam.uucp wrote:
Al> Da li bi neko ko se muva po Internetu mogao da skine ovo i
Al> sve sto je u vezi sa ovim:
Al> http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLQuickRef.html
Al> (HTML Quick Reference)
Al> http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/Tags.html
Al> (HTML Info for programming)
Al> http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/htmldoc.html
Al> (More HTML Documentation)
Ja ja, sehr gut, very smart, i ja sam interesent za slicne stvari.
BTW, sta siroke narodne mase ove mreze misle o angazovanju na pisanju
jednog domaceg HTML guide-a? Bane@zmaj, dperic@galeb i dragansr@ubbg bi
mogli da budu predvodnici, znam da znaju znanje. :)
A ja se bas interesujem ovijeh dana time...
... Moja tasta prica svasta pa sam tastu zakop'o u bastu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.1991postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: NEMA LEBA BEZ MOTIKE!
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:15 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-06-95 00:48 Anubis@elf.bl.ac.yu wrote:
An> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
An> : Eeeee, ovo mi nikako nije jasno. Jel' moze jedno objasnjenje zasto
An> je : Linux bljak a BSD coolj?
An> : Meni se cini da je obratno, jer mi kakvi smo, sigurno bi na ftp
An> hostovima : drzali BSD umesto Linuxa da je BSD bolji...
An> Trollu! :)
??????
Da nisi mislio na True!!!
Ili sam ja omanuo u necemu prilikom desifriranja Nikove poruke? :))
An> anubis@cview.com
An> Linux - The choice of GNU generation
Linux - The choice of me! :)
Pozdrav.
... Moja tasta prica svasta pa sam tastu zakop'o u bastu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.1992postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: Netscape & Agent
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:18 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-07-95 00:58 Bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu wrote:
Ba> Damir Colak (dcolak@setnet.co.yu) reche:
/* > Imam slede TwinSock 1.4
/* > Netscape 1.2
/* > Agent 0.55
/* > Elem, NetScape mi konstantno pada. Tj. obia
/* > prenese sa HOSTA neSo, )
/* > Jednostavno ne mogu ni da ga koristim zbog toga...
Ba> Pa onda ili imash vasljive Windowse ili nisi nesto odradio oko
Ba> Netscape-a kako treba ili recimo imash stariju verziju Win32s
Ba> kod sebe... Nemoj samo preterano forsirati tastere na Netscape-u
Ba> i dozvoli mu da se normalno nakaci na server...
Ba> Jesi li konfigurisao Netscape kako treba?
E imam i ja jedan (ma sta jedan - vise) problem sa Netscapetom i to 1.2n.
Naime, ponekad je stvaaarno spor kad treba da se konektuuje na www server,
i kad mu malo maznem po stop tasterima i po ikonici, on mi da poruku tipa
reentrant call to interupt window, pa posle par takvih napise kako ne moze
da uspostavi vezu, jer je boze moj zauzet ili mreza ne radi.
Naravno, funkcionise preko twinsock-a 1.4.
E sad, kad ga, kad mi se smuci da gledam te poruke, ubijem, on nece ponovo
da se startuje vec prijavi da ne mogu da startujem dve kopije istog
programa!!! A program upravo closed(t)......
I jos pljus sto mi onda upropasti i twinsock pa moram da saljem break na
galeb da bi se otkacio nazad na dec server pa ponovo c orao,
telnet,blablabla.... :(
Najveci fazon je u tome sto je stari Netscape 1.1n lepo davao error in
module Netscape.exe i ubijao se skroz na skroz, tako da sam mogao ponovo da
ga startujem, za razliku od ovog.
Inace, ako to nesto znaci, makina je 386dx40/8M/14400 modem, uz win32sole,
verzija 1.2 ili 1.25 ne secam se, a Netscape je 16 bitni, i win311 za
grupice, grupicice......
E ima li neko help na ovo, a?
Ajde Bane prijatelju, ti bar znas Netscape, pomagaj. Ili neko drugi....
... Moja tasta prica svasta pa sam tastu zakop'o u bastu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.1993postmast,
From: dcolak@setnet.co.yu (Damir Colak)
Subject: Making Www Pages
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:18:48
Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP fajlova,
tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
Sledge DAMMIR!
* Origin: Sledge HAMMER! BBS 011/163-452 22:00-07:00 (38:103/128)
email.1994postmast,
From: markom@setnet.co.yu (Marko Milivojevic)
Subject: Re: Making Www Pages
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:48:00
***> Citiram 'Damir Colak' za 'All' <***
DC> Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP
DC> fajlova, tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
Uzgred, nije HTMP nego HTML, ali nema veze :-)
Nemam uputstvo.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]
* Origin: Exodus, Novi Beograd #22-09# (011) 137-477 SETNet: (38:103/130)
email.1995postmast,
From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:17:01
> Earle Ake 513-429-6500 <ake@Dayton.SAIC.COM>
VP> celit!billd@UCSD.EDU (Bill Davidson)
VP> Matthew Farwell <dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk>
VP> "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU>
VP> "David J. MacKenzie" <djm@eng.umd.edu>
VP> david nugent <david@csource.oz.au>
VP> Ovo je deo iz gore navedenog fajla. Kao sto vidis ima vise primera,
VP> svi su originalni i svi su --validni-- !!! Moze i sa navodnicima, sa
VP> bangovima i sa tackom izmedju imena i prezimena, moze i adresa pa ime i
VP> prezime, a moze i obrnuto, da se upotrebljavaju velika i mala slova,
VP> cak i brojevi, i... Sve je kako treba, zavisi koji se program na datom
VP> sistemu upotrebljava!
VP> I nemaju veze sa postamasterima (koji, uzgred, mogu biti i Root,
VP> System, UUCP, Uucp, kako ti volja)!
VP> Treba samo shvatiti "da moje (ipak) nije najbolje" i prihvatiti
VP> odluke drugih da upotrebljavaju one programe koji im najvise
VP> odgovaraju!
Ja sam coveku preneo svoja iskustva sa programskim paketom UUPC koji sam
koristio godinu dana. Niti sam rekao da nesto nije validno, niti da je 'moje
bolje'.
I nisam se tebi obracao.
* Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)
email.1996postmast,
From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 00:21:03 CET
VM> Ja sam coveku preneo svoja iskustva sa programskim paketom UUPC koji sam
VM> koristio godinu dana. Niti sam rekao da nesto nije validno, niti da je
VM> 'moje bolje'. ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ma ne, nisi, (uporno) navodnike spominjete tek onako, da vam prodje vreme!
Ovim me podsecas na nekog... :-)))
VM> I nisam se tebi obracao.
C,c,c,c... Koja netoleratnost! Ako nisi znao ovo je javna konferencija!
Pisi onda Mail-e ili otvori svoju Mailing listu pa biraj kome ces da se
obracas. I malo bolje prouci to o cemu pises jer niti Sezamov softver niti
"kolege sa Sezama" imaju veze sa tim sto si pisao!
----
Neki stalno govore o stvarima koje ih ostavljaju bez reci!
----
email.1997postmast,
From: neuro@strike.durlan.co.yu (Slobodan Malinovic)
Subject: Re: Svaka ti cast...
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:36:00 CET
> PS> Ja sam to uradio da bih ti izasao u susret i zamolio korisike da te
> PS> ne pominju, jer si ti tako trazio. Ti, naprotiv, pustas tudji mail
> PS> u javnost cak i kada ti ljudi to izricito ne dozvole...
>
Pa kako smo vidli da "odredjeni pojedinci" pustaju mail u javnost, (jel'
prepoznajes nekog?) sto da i drugi to ne rade. A posto kod nas jos nema
copyright-a na mail, a jos manje kulture (kao sto se videlo;>) izgleda da
nikom i nije potrebna dozvola za objavljivanje tudjeg maila.
... Speed kills: use Windows.
-----
STRIKE -> Neuro but not Romancer <-> neuro@strike.durlan.co.yu <- It's me folks
email.1998postmast,
From: misa.jankovic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Misa Jankovic)
Subject: Svaka ti cast...
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:07:00 CET
QWK To: Predrag Supurovic
Predrag Supurovic write:
PS> Izvini Vlado, samo mi jos objasni kako to da sve SETNet
PS> korisnike obavestim da ne smeju vise da te pominju u porukama a
PS> da to ne uradim javnom porukom? Mozda da svakome od njih posaljem
PS> po jedan mail?
PS> Ja sam to uradio da bih ti izasao u susret i zamolio korisike da te
PS> ne pominju, jer si ti tako trazio. Ti, naprotiv, pustas tudji mail
PS> u javnost cak i kada ti ljudi to izricito ne dozvole...
PS> No, to sve nema veze, ja sam samo uradio ono sto si od mene trazio.
PS> a ti, ako hoces da ja svoje korisnike upozorim da te ne pominju, a
PS> uz to da im to i ne kazem, jer si ti to od mene trazio u mail-u,
PS> onda ja ne znam kako to da izvedem?!?!?! Da predlozim sisopima da lepo
PS> ugasimo SETNet, da ti ne bismo bili trn u oku?
Konfuzno nema sta!!>:-) Aj' jos jednom molim te napisi ovu poruku al'
otpozadi mozda cu bolje da je shvatim!:-))
-----
Misa Jankovic /misa.jankovic@rstones.durlan.co.yu/
Tel: 018/337-044 - Nis - Yugoslavia
... Don't judge a book by its movie.
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.20 [NR]
#! rnews 691
email.1999postmast,
From: stigor@setnet.co.yu (Igor Stanojevic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:11:00
VL> Svima ostalima se izvinjavam za sum, no optuzbe behu teske i lazne -
VL>morao sam zaista jos ovaj put!
VL> Od sada ko god hoce da mi pise bilo sta a sto nije vezano za temu ove
VL>konferencije moju adresu imate u zaglavlju poruke!
Ali kad nesto obecas (da neces vise), drzi se tog obecanja ...
■ SLMR 2.1a #1973 ■ Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2000postmast,
From: Jovica Milosevic <Jovica.Milosevic@corona.sunrise.hobbiton.CO.YU>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 22:31:00 +0100
Subject: YU-FREEnet - poziv na saradnju
Mreze ne bi trebalo da se podvajaju. Saradnja medju njima je neophodnost.
U YU-FREEnet (u daljem tekstu FREEnet), povezalo se nekoliko sistema i
mreza sirom Jugoslavije, a i shire. Medju korisnicima, osim fizickih,
imamo i pravna lica sa, za to nadleznim urednicima. (jedno kinolosko i
jedno ekolosko drustvo).
Od konferencija imamo sledece:
free.zanimljivosti free.bla_bla
free.humor free.ljubav
free.oglasi free.drustvo
free.kucni_ljubimci free.nauka
free.muzika free.filosofija
free.turizam free.vesti
free.psihoanaliza free.ekologija
Carmina Burana, kompozicija Carla Orffa, predmet je interesovanja
mnogih, te sada objavljujemo originalni tekst i prevod kompozicije, uz
mnogo detalja o njenom nastanku. (free.muzika)
Besplatni veterinarski saveti i rasprave o drzanju i nezi zivotinja u
kuci. Berza zivotinja i vazna obavestenja u vezi sa time, cak i vicevi
koji se odnose na njih. (free.kucni_ljubimci)
Kuda i kako na odmor ili vikend, svejedno. Kako ste se proveli i
jeste li imali problema kada i gde. Moze li se odmor provesti u vasem
gradu? Pisimo o dobrim, jeftinim hotelima sa dobrom uslugom. Njima
pravimo reklamu a nama prijatan boravak. (free.turizam).
Pisi sta hoces. Niko ti nista ne moze zameriti. Tu cak mozes i da
se svadjas - samo ne vredjaj. (free.bla_bla)
Sve u vezi sa religijom, licnom zivotnom ideologijom... Negujete li
svoja sopstvena filosofska nacela? Iznesite javno svoja razmisljanja.
Postavite pitanja; iznesite dileme... Mozda ce se naci neko da vam odgovori.
(free.filosofija).
Ljubav, kao nezaobilazna tema. Koliko zaista ljubav poznajemo, i koliko
se u njoj prepoznajemo (free.ljubav)
Malo ko se medju nama bavi psihoanalizom, ali to nikako ne znaci da
se za nju ne zanimamo. Bavljenjem psihoanalizom poboljsavamo, pre
svega sopstveni kvalitet zivota. Sta sve moze kriti ljudska dusha?
(free.psihoanaliza).
Ekolosko drustvo iz Smedereva je insistiralo da se otvori i free.
ekologija. Nije postojao razlog da se to ne ucini. Obecali su niz
priloga iz ove oblasti.
To je samo deo onoga sto mozete naci i razmeniti sa FREEnet-om.
Korisnici, pre svega, neka budu kreatori FREE konferencija;
to je nacelo FREEneta.
SysOpi, koji su zainteresovani, mogu se javiti Aleksandru Markovicu sa
Sunrise-a, telefon 026/314-808 ili mail na alekm@sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu
radi pristupa za razmenu konferencija, i to, nezavisno kojoj mrezi
pripadate. Ako na vasim sistemima imate zanimljive (lokalne) konferencije,
rado cemo ih prihvatiti. FREEnet je svima otvoren. Spremni smo i na
saradnju sa drugim mrezama i medjusobnu razmenu odredjenih konferencija,
koje se medjusobno ne dupliraju, a i da u okvirima slicnih
razmenjujemo poruke.
YU-FREEnet - Mreza inventivnih i slobodoumnih je zaista
FREE. Dosadasnja praksa je to vec dokazala. Autonomnost svake mreze
postujemo i ne remetimo. Nikome ne zelimo da konkurisemo, naprotiv,
ako mozemo, pomoci cemo u razvoju i nadgradnji svake druge mreze, jer
sve nas vezuje ljubav prema ovoj vrsti komunikacije.
email.2001postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:35:39
ZT>* Asli Djuricin in message to Predrag Supurovic wrote:
ZT> AD> Ja se izvinjavam, ali nisam mogao da odolim. Sto se mene tice, uopste
ZT> AD> mi nije bitno pravo ime coveka koji salje poruke, i nije mi jasno sto
ZT> AD> se neko buni povodom toga, pa jos smetaju navodnici, pa ovo, pa ono...
ZT>Nije da smeta (mozda estetski, pogotovo kod citata): stvar je vise na nivou
ZT>zapazanja jer se vuce dosta dugo unazad. Zasto bar ne saznati razlog?
Dobro, saznaj razlog, ali ja zbilja ne marim :)
ZT> AD> * ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
ZT> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ZT>Otkud da je .ac? Da li je Panon poceo sa razmenom YUInt konferencija?
Nije, vec samo ide mail preko ns.ac
¸> Bad news mom, I sold my soul to the devil
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2002postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: Prodigy
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:36:20
Ako hocete da pisete Prodigy-u da bi dobili besplatan softver za
koristenje njigove mreze, kao i inicijalnih 10 sati besplatnog pristupa
Internet-u, evo adrese: freetrial@prodigy.com
¸> "How do I look, Nermal" "Like a million. Give or take a year."
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2003postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:36:22
PS> AD> Ja se izvinjavam, ali nisam mogao da odolim. Sto se mene tice, uopste
PS> AD> mi nije bitno pravo ime coveka koji salje poruke, i nije mi jasno sto
PS> AD> se neko buni povodom toga, pa jos smetaju navodnici, pa ovo, pa ono...
PS>Ne smeta ni meni, kad su u pitanju ljudi van SETNet-a. To je stvar
PS>drugih sistema da li imaju imena ili nemaju. Zoran je navikao da svi
PS>imaju imena, a valjda covek ima pravo da kaze da mu se ne svidja kad
PS>ne zna ime pisca poruke? Njegovo je da kaze, a na administratorima
PS>da li ce mu udovoljiti.
Ma, ja samo kazem da meni nije bitno...
pozdrav :)
¸> "What did you do to the computer, Monkey-Man?" -- Zaphod
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2004postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:36:23
ZT>Desetine (mozda i stotine) nas se javlja odavde iskljucivo zbog toga sto
ZT>*stvar* funkcionise i sto je (uz relativno pristupacne uslove) moguce
ZT>ostvariti kontakt sa dosta ljudi, zabaviti se, resiti poneki problem, saznati
ZT>nesto... PTT, geo-udaljenost, vreme, novac - mnogima predstavlja
ZT>ogranicavajuci faktor, pa je zvanje BBS-a *u komsiluku* najkomotniji oblik
ZT>komunikacije. Jos ako postoji veza prema drugim sistemima... Ihaaj!
E, to je ono najlepse sto potiskuje u drugi plan sve ostalo...
¸> "I see", said the blind man, to his deaf wife...
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2005superhik,
Neko mi je svojevremeno odao 'trik' za slanje mail u
'nizozemstvo' ;) nešto kao
%ne_znam_šta%username@adresa
je l' može neko da ponovi...?
email.2006zorpet,
Mozda sam vec PPPUUNNOO zakasnio sa pitanjem...
Kako se salju poruke sa SEZAMA na druge NOD-ove.
Interesuje me format poruka: Jos ako moze primer !!!
Pozdrav ZORPEt!
email.2007postmast,
From: SALE.OLUJIC@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org (Aleksandar Olujic)
Subject: Re^2: bem vas u standard
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 15:20:05 +0100
## Public reply to Nik Malenovic 's message written on 12.09.95
## under subject Re: bem vas u standard (was: Re: sezam zaglavlja)
## posted in /YU/NET/EMAIL newsgroup.
-> > NM> From: "Nikola Malenovic" <EMALENOV@UBBG.ETF.BG.AC.YU>
0-> > NM> je absolutno regularna, normalna i po "zakonu".
->
-> >Moze biti regularno 100 puta, ali ako postoji mogucnost da ih nema,
-> >bolje da ih nema. Uostalom, zanimljivo je da od svih sistema, samo sa
-> >SEZAM-a poruke dolaze u tom obliku. ;)
->
-> jao tipicna balkanchina ;-) nije bitno sto bi ukidanje navodnika mozda
-> zbuniilo cirka 5000 drugih hostova koji sada primaju bez problema,
-> bitno je da njemu nema navodnika. leleeeeeeeeeee
INN odbacuje sve poruke sa Sezama zbog dvotaccke u msgid.
cnews radi bez problema.
sale
email.2008postmast,
From: dzoni@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Nikola Kljukovnica)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:54:25 GMT
On Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:38:30 Damir Colak je napisao:
-=> "P>> To je ono sto me ojadjuje kod Netscapea. Ponekada je dovoljan jedan
-=> "P>> suvisan pritisak na neki button da ga obori.
-=>
-=> "P> Uzmi finalni Netscape 1.2.
-=>
-=> Gde moze da se nadje?
-=>
-=> Sledge DAMMIR!
Mozxe daj se najde na u-bi-bi-dzxi -u (UBBG)
/MSDOS/WINDOWS/WINSOCK/
/NET/INTERNET/WWW/NETSCAPE/
PA VIDI TAMO SHTA TI SVE TREBA, 16-BIT, 32-BIT... itd
Dzoni
email.2009postmast,
From: dzoni@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Nikola Kljukovnica)
Subject: Re: New Netscape
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:56:39 GMT
Vidi odgovor pod email
Dzoni
email.2010postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: Molba
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:06:45
Zamolicu korisnike SETNet-a koji prate ovu konferenciju da
se uzdrzavaju da u svojim porukama u ovoj i svim ostalim SETNet
konferencijama pominju imena: Vladap sa Durlana ili Piksi sa
Rolling Stones-a, posto sam od Vladep dobio prilicno ostar mail
u kome je izmedju stalog rekao:
"Spomene li mene ili Piksija jos neko od tvojih mamlaza sa SETNet-a
u bilo kojem kontekstu tek ima da bude maskembal na YUInternet-u!"
Nadam se da Vladap nece zbog ovog pominjanja poceti sa najavljenim
aktivnostima. Ovo je ipak neophodno obavestenje.
Ovim izjavljujem da cemo se, radi dobrih odnosa, truditi da sprecavamo
korisnike da u bilo kom kontekstu pominju navedene ljude, ali ne mozemo
preuzeti odgovornost ako to neko ipak ucini. Mozemo samo da ih zamolimo
da to ne rade, ali ne i da im zabranimo.
S druge strane, garantujem da cemo preduzeti odgovarajuce mere
prema svakome ko svojim porukama bude vredjao navedene ljude, kao
sto i inace cinimo, bez obzira ko je vredjan.
Smatram da su ovakvi zahtevi koje nije moguce ispuniti, neprimereni
i samo doprinose daljem zatezanju odnosa izmedju nas.
-+- OLMS 2.5 UNREG
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.2011postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:06:50
==== Vinko Velinov rece: ======================================
>zaglavlju (cak i ako je "kobasica"), dok sa druge strane nama ovde redovno
>dolaze maskenbal-poruke: te (po zlu legendarni) Nemesis, pa Vladap, Piksi...
VV> svadja vec duze vremena nema i to je dobro. Medjutim Z.T. je u spisak
VV> po zlu poznatih naveo samo Vladu. Valjda u ime nepristrasnosti treba
Pogresno si protumacio poruku. Lepo se vidi da se to 'po zlu..'
odnosilo samo na Nemesis-a... i ako se ne varam, tu je Zoran aludirao
na to da su u konferencijama sa svih strana sve cesce zalbe na
njegove poruke. Vladap i Piksi su pomenuti zato sto stvarno u njihovim
porukama ne dolazi informacija koja su im prava imena, a ne zat sto su
'po zlu...' jer to i nisu...
... BR> U zeni je svo dobro i zlo ovoga sveta.
-+- OLMS 2.5 UNREG
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.2012postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: Ostale mreze i SETNet
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:06:51
IP> From: Ilija Poznic <Ilija.Poznic@corona.sunrise.hobbiton.CO.YU>
IP> Kada se na BBS koji je vezan u SETNet mrezi pregleda koji BBS-ovi
IP> postoje u jugoslaviji nisu navedeni svi BBS-ovi vec delimicno.
Kakve to ima veze sa SETNet-om? Sisopi na BBS-ove stavljaju
liste po svom nahodjenju.
Ako neki BBS u takvim listama nedostaje, jednostavno sisopu
treba ostaviti podatke i zamoliti ga da ih ubaci.
Ne ocekujes valjda da ce neko da se polomi da skupi podatke o svim
BBS-ovima? Ljudi u liste stavljaju podatke koji su im dostupni.
Oni podaci koji nisu dostupni, jednostavno ne postoje.
... BR> CIP - casopis za racunare, elektroniku i komunikacije
-+- OLMS 2.5 UNREG
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.2013postmast,
From: zoran@setnet.co.yu (Zoran Tomic)
Subject: bem vas u standard (was: Re: sezam zaglavlja)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:20:00
* Nik Malenovic in message to All wrote:
NM> jao tipicna balkanchina ;-) nije bitno sto bi ukidanje navodnika mozda
NM> zbuniilo cirka 5000 drugih hostova koji sada primaju bez problema,
NM> bitno je da njemu nema navodnika. leleeeeeeeeeee
Cekaj, prvo podjes od pretpostavke, pa je onda branis kao istinu: Ako je
istina da bi njihovo ukidanje *zbunilo cirka 5000 drugih hostova*, onda ja
povlacim primedbu. Do sada sam to cuo samo od tebe i ne znam da li da ti
verujem, pogotovo sto nisi medju kompetentnima za to. ;)
Za Brokera: Ima li sanse da se navodnici regulisu na samom Gate-u?
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
email.2014postmast,
From: zoran@setnet.co.yu (Zoran Tomic)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:32:01
VV> From: vinko@impex.durlan.co.yu (Vinko Velinov)
>BTW, sve poruke koje odlaze odavde imaju uredno ime i prezime u svom
>zaglavlju (cak i ako je "kobasica"), dok sa druge strane nama ovde redovno
>dolaze maskenbal-poruke: te (po zlu legendarni) Nemesis, pa Vladap, Piksi...
VV> Rekao sam da necu da uzimam ucesca u ovim raspravama jer smatram da su
VV> besmislene i da im nedostaje prava argumentacija. Pogotovu sto meni ni
VV> na jednom sistemu nije ucinjeno nista nazao i najiskrenije kazem da
VV> nemam nista protiv bilo koga. Naprotiv, veoma zalim zbog svih ovih
VV> svadja.
Sva je prilika da si ti pogresno razumeo celu poruku: Nema ona nikakve veze
sa prethodnim svadjama izmedju bilo koga, nema veze ni sa Durlanom ni bilo
kojim covekom sa njega.
Vladap i Piksi su tu navedeni samo u kontekstu poruka iz kojih se ne moze
doznati ko ih pise; jer vidjao sam mnoge takve poruke i sa drugih sistema, a
njih dvojica su mi bili najsveziji primer.
Pogledaj svoje ime gore... I ti zoves sa Durlana, ali lepo u zagradi pise
kako se zoves. ;)
VV> Ovo sto je napisao Z.T. zaista je prevrsilo svaku meru i nisam mogao
VV> da ocutim. Istina je da se Vlada svadjao sa Brokerom. Tih njihovih
VV> svadja vec duze vremena nema i to je dobro. Medjutim Z.T. je u spisak
VV> po zlu poznatih naveo samo Vladu. Valjda u ime nepristrasnosti treba
VV> navesti i Brokera. Drugo je to sto ih ja ne smatram zlikovcima. Nego
VV> pustimo Vladu i Brokera. Nazvati (dorbocudnog) Milana Stojanovica
VV> Piksija, koji nije napisao nijednu ostriju poruku ili poruku koja bi
VV> se mogla smatrati sumom, zlikovcem je nesto sto ja nikako ne mogu da
VV> pojmim. Koji su motivi Z.T.-a zaista ne mogu da dokucim.
Sve si ovo napisao misleci da se one reci u zagradi odnose i na njih dvojicu,
jel' da? :) Ma nikad im ne bih pripisao takve epitete, gomilu korektnih
poruka sam vec razmenio sa njima, a i sve ostale su im medju kvalitetnijim
koje stizu na YUInt.
To se odnosilo samo na onog prvog, za koga takodje ne pise kako se zove, tako
da sve insinuacije oko odnosa Broker <-> Vladap s tim zaista nemaju nikakve
veze, niti me zanima previse ko je u pravu a ko ne. Da li sada razumes zasto
sam pomenuo Piksija i Vladapa?
VV> Smatram da bi Z.T. morao da se izvini Piksiju.
I ne samo Piksiju vec i Vladapu se izvinjavam, ukoliko su poruku shvatili
onako kako si je ti protumacio. Iskreno se nadam da nisu - bar njih dvojica
bi se zapitali da li imam razloga da im uputim takve reci. OK?
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
email.2015postmast,
From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic)
Subject: cut.religion
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 09:58:14 CET
ZT > I ne samo Piksiju vec i Vladapu se izvinjavam, ukoliko su poruku
> i
> onako kako si je ti protumacio. Iskreno se nadam da nisu - bar nj
> ica
> bi se zapitali da li imam razloga da im uputim takve reci. OK?
Ma, dobro, recimo, malo si to napisao nespretno i - kvit!
Sto se tice imena, svako kosristi one programe koji su mu ili bili
dostupni tog trenutka ili je na njih vec navikao. Neki su sa navodni-
cima, neki koriste samo Aliase, neki stavljaju tacku izmedju imena i
prezimena, neki stavljaju heder u porukama preko celog ekrana (narocito
Tosser-i) i to ne bi trebalo nikome da smeta. Meni licno ne smeta, bi-
tan mi je sam tekst poruke, ono sto mogu da saznam, naucim, retko kada
gledam ko pise poruku, sa kog je sistema, interesuje me kvalitet onoga
sto je u samoj poruci.
Neko koristi (kao Vinko) mailer, ja pisem direktno pa zato i nema
nikada one linije! Sada sam napravio izuzetak pa opet moj Reader (Jabber)
ne ubacuje onu liniju.
Ovim ne mislim da pridikujem ikome vec samo da je pravo onoga koji
pise da koristi ime i prezime, aliase, tossere, sisteme odakle se
javljaju po zelji, znanju ili afinitetima! Nikada, ni jedna poruka sa
bilo kog sistema kod nas nije "zaglavila", znaci sve su kako treba!
Ako hoces koristi samo inicijale, u svetu postoje sistemi koji ti omo-
gucavaju potpuno anonimno slanje Mail-a i poruka!
Pogledaj malo bolje ovaj heder:
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce
Subject: pop-perl5 - works with Perl 5
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Kao sto vidis isto kao i kod nas! Aliasi! I nikome tamo to ne smeta!
A i zasto bi ???
U ostalom, odakle ja znam (dobro, ja znam jednog Zorana Tomica iz Lo-
znice, mozda si to ti taj?) da si ti zaista taj koji je naveden u hede-
ru? Dobro, dobro, jesi, zelim samo da kazem da necije navedeno ime i
prezime ne mora da bude pravo!
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* JABBER v1.2 * Ko dobro rice dobija lavovski deo.
email.2016postmast,
From: vinko@impex.durlan.co.yu (Vinko Velinov)
Subject: Re: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 08:48:00 GMT+2
zoran@setnet.co.yu (Zoran Tomic) writes:
>Sve si ovo napisao misleci da se one reci u zagradi odnose i na njih dvojicu,
>jel' da? :) Ma nikad im ne bih pripisao takve epitete, gomilu korektnih
Ja jesam tako shvatio poruku. Dobro, ja prihvatam ovo objasnjenje. Ostaje
doduse da je upotrebljena gruba rec, cak i za Nemesisa, koji je stvarno
mnogo dosadan i zamerke na njegov racun su na mestu. Uzgred, nema ga nesto.
Jos ce poceti da mi nedostaje :)))
Dobro, smatram da je diskusja na temu "Piksi - zlikovac" zavrsena.
Svakoga dana u svakom pogledu sve vise napredujem.
-----
Vinko Velinov * Impex Promet * 25. Maj 81 * 18000 Nis * tel. 018/43-671
email.2017postmast,
From: dusan djordjevic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Dusan Djordjevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:00:00 CET
QWK To: Aleksandar Nikolajevic
AN> Ja sam se isto prilicno mucio oko svega toga pa cu ti dati jos neke
AN> savete:
AN> - mada je pine na OSMEHu najlaksi za pocetnike, ne savetujem ti
AN> nalog
AN> na nekom od FON racunara jer ih je prosto nemoguce dobiti (2
Dobro de, nije UNIX toli bauk. Ako nista u komandnij liniji moze da kaze
mail pera@aol.com < poruka.txt i da posalje poruku koju je ranije pripremio
u editoru. Doduse nije neko resenje al za pocetak...
Inace aol.com je i-net adresa tog America Online-a, pa moras da saznas
njegov username i da mu pises na username@aol.com.
... We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing.
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
#! rnews 1838
email.2018postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:11 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-16-95 01:23 Aleckemailezam.uucp wrote:
Al> Da li bi neko ko se muva po Internetu mogao da skine ovo i
Al> sve sto je u vezi sa ovim:
Al> http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLQuickRef.html
Al> (HTML Quick Reference)
Al> http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/Tags.html
Al> (HTML Info for programming)
Al> http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/htmldoc.html
Al> (More HTML Documentation)
Ja ja, sehr gut, very smart, i ja sam interesent za slicne stvari.
BTW, sta siroke narodne mase ove mreze misle o angazovanju na pisanju
jednog domaceg HTML guide-a? Bane@zmaj, dperic@galeb i dragansr@ubbg bi
mogli da budu predvodnici, znam da znaju znanje. :)
A ja se bas interesujem ovijeh dana time...
... Moja tasta prica svasta pa sam tastu zakop'o u bastu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.2019postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: NEMA LEBA BEZ MOTIKE!
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:15 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-06-95 00:48 Anubis@elf.bl.ac.yu wrote:
An> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
An> : Eeeee, ovo mi nikako nije jasno. Jel' moze jedno objasnjenje zasto
An> je : Linux bljak a BSD coolj?
An> : Meni se cini da je obratno, jer mi kakvi smo, sigurno bi na ftp
An> hostovima : drzali BSD umesto Linuxa da je BSD bolji...
An> Trollu! :)
??????
Da nisi mislio na True!!!
Ili sam ja omanuo u necemu prilikom desifriranja Nikove poruke? :))
An> anubis@cview.com
An> Linux - The choice of GNU generation
Linux - The choice of me! :)
Pozdrav.
... Moja tasta prica svasta pa sam tastu zakop'o u bastu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.2020postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: Netscape & Agent
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:18 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-07-95 00:58 Bane@zmaj.etf.bg.ac.yu wrote:
Ba> Damir Colak (dcolak@setnet.co.yu) reche:
/* > Imam slede TwinSock 1.4
/* > Netscape 1.2
/* > Agent 0.55
/* > Elem, NetScape mi konstantno pada. Tj. obia
/* > prenese sa HOSTA neSo, )
/* > Jednostavno ne mogu ni da ga koristim zbog toga...
Ba> Pa onda ili imash vasljive Windowse ili nisi nesto odradio oko
Ba> Netscape-a kako treba ili recimo imash stariju verziju Win32s
Ba> kod sebe... Nemoj samo preterano forsirati tastere na Netscape-u
Ba> i dozvoli mu da se normalno nakaci na server...
Ba> Jesi li konfigurisao Netscape kako treba?
E imam i ja jedan (ma sta jedan - vise) problem sa Netscapetom i to 1.2n.
Naime, ponekad je stvaaarno spor kad treba da se konektuuje na www server,
i kad mu malo maznem po stop tasterima i po ikonici, on mi da poruku tipa
reentrant call to interupt window, pa posle par takvih napise kako ne moze
da uspostavi vezu, jer je boze moj zauzet ili mreza ne radi.
Naravno, funkcionise preko twinsock-a 1.4.
E sad, kad ga, kad mi se smuci da gledam te poruke, ubijem, on nece ponovo
da se startuje vec prijavi da ne mogu da startujem dve kopije istog
programa!!! A program upravo closed(t)......
I jos pljus sto mi onda upropasti i twinsock pa moram da saljem break na
galeb da bi se otkacio nazad na dec server pa ponovo c orao,
telnet,blablabla.... :(
Najveci fazon je u tome sto je stari Netscape 1.1n lepo davao error in
module Netscape.exe i ubijao se skroz na skroz, tako da sam mogao ponovo da
ga startujem, za razliku od ovog.
Inace, ako to nesto znaci, makina je 386dx40/8M/14400 modem, uz win32sole,
verzija 1.2 ili 1.25 ne secam se, a Netscape je 16 bitni, i win311 za
grupice, grupicice......
E ima li neko help na ovo, a?
Ajde Bane prijatelju, ti bar znas Netscape, pomagaj. Ili neko drugi....
... Moja tasta prica svasta pa sam tastu zakop'o u bastu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.2021postmast,
From: dcolak@setnet.co.yu (Damir Colak)
Subject: Making Www Pages
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:18:48
Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP fajlova,
tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
Sledge DAMMIR!
* Origin: Sledge HAMMER! BBS 011/163-452 22:00-07:00 (38:103/128)
email.2022postmast,
From: markom@setnet.co.yu (Marko Milivojevic)
Subject: Re: Making Www Pages
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:48:00
***> Citiram 'Damir Colak' za 'All' <***
DC> Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP
DC> fajlova, tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
Uzgred, nije HTMP nego HTML, ali nema veze :-)
Nemam uputstvo.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]
* Origin: Exodus, Novi Beograd #22-09# (011) 137-477 SETNet: (38:103/130)
email.2023postmast,
From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:17:01
> Earle Ake 513-429-6500 <ake@Dayton.SAIC.COM>
VP> celit!billd@UCSD.EDU (Bill Davidson)
VP> Matthew Farwell <dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk>
VP> "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU>
VP> "David J. MacKenzie" <djm@eng.umd.edu>
VP> david nugent <david@csource.oz.au>
VP> Ovo je deo iz gore navedenog fajla. Kao sto vidis ima vise primera,
VP> svi su originalni i svi su --validni-- !!! Moze i sa navodnicima, sa
VP> bangovima i sa tackom izmedju imena i prezimena, moze i adresa pa ime i
VP> prezime, a moze i obrnuto, da se upotrebljavaju velika i mala slova,
VP> cak i brojevi, i... Sve je kako treba, zavisi koji se program na datom
VP> sistemu upotrebljava!
VP> I nemaju veze sa postamasterima (koji, uzgred, mogu biti i Root,
VP> System, UUCP, Uucp, kako ti volja)!
VP> Treba samo shvatiti "da moje (ipak) nije najbolje" i prihvatiti
VP> odluke drugih da upotrebljavaju one programe koji im najvise
VP> odgovaraju!
Ja sam coveku preneo svoja iskustva sa programskim paketom UUPC koji sam
koristio godinu dana. Niti sam rekao da nesto nije validno, niti da je 'moje
bolje'.
I nisam se tebi obracao.
* Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)
email.2024postmast,
From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 00:21:03 CET
VM> Ja sam coveku preneo svoja iskustva sa programskim paketom UUPC koji sam
VM> koristio godinu dana. Niti sam rekao da nesto nije validno, niti da je
VM> 'moje bolje'. ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ma ne, nisi, (uporno) navodnike spominjete tek onako, da vam prodje vreme!
Ovim me podsecas na nekog... :-)))
VM> I nisam se tebi obracao.
C,c,c,c... Koja netoleratnost! Ako nisi znao ovo je javna konferencija!
Pisi onda Mail-e ili otvori svoju Mailing listu pa biraj kome ces da se
obracas. I malo bolje prouci to o cemu pises jer niti Sezamov softver niti
"kolege sa Sezama" imaju veze sa tim sto si pisao!
----
Neki stalno govore o stvarima koje ih ostavljaju bez reci!
----
email.2025postmast,
From: neuro@strike.durlan.co.yu (Slobodan Malinovic)
Subject: Re: Svaka ti cast...
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:36:00 CET
> PS> Ja sam to uradio da bih ti izasao u susret i zamolio korisike da te
> PS> ne pominju, jer si ti tako trazio. Ti, naprotiv, pustas tudji mail
> PS> u javnost cak i kada ti ljudi to izricito ne dozvole...
>
Pa kako smo vidli da "odredjeni pojedinci" pustaju mail u javnost, (jel'
prepoznajes nekog?) sto da i drugi to ne rade. A posto kod nas jos nema
copyright-a na mail, a jos manje kulture (kao sto se videlo;>) izgleda da
nikom i nije potrebna dozvola za objavljivanje tudjeg maila.
... Speed kills: use Windows.
-----
STRIKE -> Neuro but not Romancer <-> neuro@strike.durlan.co.yu <- It's me folks
email.2026postmast,
From: misa.jankovic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Misa Jankovic)
Subject: Svaka ti cast...
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:07:00 CET
QWK To: Predrag Supurovic
Predrag Supurovic write:
PS> Izvini Vlado, samo mi jos objasni kako to da sve SETNet
PS> korisnike obavestim da ne smeju vise da te pominju u porukama a
PS> da to ne uradim javnom porukom? Mozda da svakome od njih posaljem
PS> po jedan mail?
PS> Ja sam to uradio da bih ti izasao u susret i zamolio korisike da te
PS> ne pominju, jer si ti tako trazio. Ti, naprotiv, pustas tudji mail
PS> u javnost cak i kada ti ljudi to izricito ne dozvole...
PS> No, to sve nema veze, ja sam samo uradio ono sto si od mene trazio.
PS> a ti, ako hoces da ja svoje korisnike upozorim da te ne pominju, a
PS> uz to da im to i ne kazem, jer si ti to od mene trazio u mail-u,
PS> onda ja ne znam kako to da izvedem?!?!?! Da predlozim sisopima da lepo
PS> ugasimo SETNet, da ti ne bismo bili trn u oku?
Konfuzno nema sta!!>:-) Aj' jos jednom molim te napisi ovu poruku al'
otpozadi mozda cu bolje da je shvatim!:-))
-----
Misa Jankovic /misa.jankovic@rstones.durlan.co.yu/
Tel: 018/337-044 - Nis - Yugoslavia
... Don't judge a book by its movie.
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.20 [NR]
#! rnews 691
email.2027postmast,
From: stigor@setnet.co.yu (Igor Stanojevic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:11:00
VL> Svima ostalima se izvinjavam za sum, no optuzbe behu teske i lazne -
VL>morao sam zaista jos ovaj put!
VL> Od sada ko god hoce da mi pise bilo sta a sto nije vezano za temu ove
VL>konferencije moju adresu imate u zaglavlju poruke!
Ali kad nesto obecas (da neces vise), drzi se tog obecanja ...
■ SLMR 2.1a #1973 ■ Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2028postmast,
From: Jovica Milosevic <Jovica.Milosevic@corona.sunrise.hobbiton.CO.YU>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 22:31:00 +0100
Subject: YU-FREEnet - poziv na saradnju
Mreze ne bi trebalo da se podvajaju. Saradnja medju njima je neophodnost.
U YU-FREEnet (u daljem tekstu FREEnet), povezalo se nekoliko sistema i
mreza sirom Jugoslavije, a i shire. Medju korisnicima, osim fizickih,
imamo i pravna lica sa, za to nadleznim urednicima. (jedno kinolosko i
jedno ekolosko drustvo).
Od konferencija imamo sledece:
free.zanimljivosti free.bla_bla
free.humor free.ljubav
free.oglasi free.drustvo
free.kucni_ljubimci free.nauka
free.muzika free.filosofija
free.turizam free.vesti
free.psihoanaliza free.ekologija
Carmina Burana, kompozicija Carla Orffa, predmet je interesovanja
mnogih, te sada objavljujemo originalni tekst i prevod kompozicije, uz
mnogo detalja o njenom nastanku. (free.muzika)
Besplatni veterinarski saveti i rasprave o drzanju i nezi zivotinja u
kuci. Berza zivotinja i vazna obavestenja u vezi sa time, cak i vicevi
koji se odnose na njih. (free.kucni_ljubimci)
Kuda i kako na odmor ili vikend, svejedno. Kako ste se proveli i
jeste li imali problema kada i gde. Moze li se odmor provesti u vasem
gradu? Pisimo o dobrim, jeftinim hotelima sa dobrom uslugom. Njima
pravimo reklamu a nama prijatan boravak. (free.turizam).
Pisi sta hoces. Niko ti nista ne moze zameriti. Tu cak mozes i da
se svadjas - samo ne vredjaj. (free.bla_bla)
Sve u vezi sa religijom, licnom zivotnom ideologijom... Negujete li
svoja sopstvena filosofska nacela? Iznesite javno svoja razmisljanja.
Postavite pitanja; iznesite dileme... Mozda ce se naci neko da vam odgovori.
(free.filosofija).
Ljubav, kao nezaobilazna tema. Koliko zaista ljubav poznajemo, i koliko
se u njoj prepoznajemo (free.ljubav)
Malo ko se medju nama bavi psihoanalizom, ali to nikako ne znaci da
se za nju ne zanimamo. Bavljenjem psihoanalizom poboljsavamo, pre
svega sopstveni kvalitet zivota. Sta sve moze kriti ljudska dusha?
(free.psihoanaliza).
Ekolosko drustvo iz Smedereva je insistiralo da se otvori i free.
ekologija. Nije postojao razlog da se to ne ucini. Obecali su niz
priloga iz ove oblasti.
To je samo deo onoga sto mozete naci i razmeniti sa FREEnet-om.
Korisnici, pre svega, neka budu kreatori FREE konferencija;
to je nacelo FREEneta.
SysOpi, koji su zainteresovani, mogu se javiti Aleksandru Markovicu sa
Sunrise-a, telefon 026/314-808 ili mail na alekm@sunrise.hobbiton.co.yu
radi pristupa za razmenu konferencija, i to, nezavisno kojoj mrezi
pripadate. Ako na vasim sistemima imate zanimljive (lokalne) konferencije,
rado cemo ih prihvatiti. FREEnet je svima otvoren. Spremni smo i na
saradnju sa drugim mrezama i medjusobnu razmenu odredjenih konferencija,
koje se medjusobno ne dupliraju, a i da u okvirima slicnih
razmenjujemo poruke.
YU-FREEnet - Mreza inventivnih i slobodoumnih je zaista
FREE. Dosadasnja praksa je to vec dokazala. Autonomnost svake mreze
postujemo i ne remetimo. Nikome ne zelimo da konkurisemo, naprotiv,
ako mozemo, pomoci cemo u razvoju i nadgradnji svake druge mreze, jer
sve nas vezuje ljubav prema ovoj vrsti komunikacije.
email.2029postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:35:39
ZT>* Asli Djuricin in message to Predrag Supurovic wrote:
ZT> AD> Ja se izvinjavam, ali nisam mogao da odolim. Sto se mene tice, uopste
ZT> AD> mi nije bitno pravo ime coveka koji salje poruke, i nije mi jasno sto
ZT> AD> se neko buni povodom toga, pa jos smetaju navodnici, pa ovo, pa ono...
ZT>Nije da smeta (mozda estetski, pogotovo kod citata): stvar je vise na nivou
ZT>zapazanja jer se vuce dosta dugo unazad. Zasto bar ne saznati razlog?
Dobro, saznaj razlog, ali ja zbilja ne marim :)
ZT> AD> * ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
ZT> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ZT>Otkud da je .ac? Da li je Panon poceo sa razmenom YUInt konferencija?
Nije, vec samo ide mail preko ns.ac
¸> Bad news mom, I sold my soul to the devil
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2030postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: Prodigy
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:36:20
Ako hocete da pisete Prodigy-u da bi dobili besplatan softver za
koristenje njigove mreze, kao i inicijalnih 10 sati besplatnog pristupa
Internet-u, evo adrese: freetrial@prodigy.com
¸> "How do I look, Nermal" "Like a million. Give or take a year."
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2031postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:36:22
PS> AD> Ja se izvinjavam, ali nisam mogao da odolim. Sto se mene tice, uopste
PS> AD> mi nije bitno pravo ime coveka koji salje poruke, i nije mi jasno sto
PS> AD> se neko buni povodom toga, pa jos smetaju navodnici, pa ovo, pa ono...
PS>Ne smeta ni meni, kad su u pitanju ljudi van SETNet-a. To je stvar
PS>drugih sistema da li imaju imena ili nemaju. Zoran je navikao da svi
PS>imaju imena, a valjda covek ima pravo da kaze da mu se ne svidja kad
PS>ne zna ime pisca poruke? Njegovo je da kaze, a na administratorima
PS>da li ce mu udovoljiti.
Ma, ja samo kazem da meni nije bitno...
pozdrav :)
¸> "What did you do to the computer, Monkey-Man?" -- Zaphod
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2032postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:36:23
ZT>Desetine (mozda i stotine) nas se javlja odavde iskljucivo zbog toga sto
ZT>*stvar* funkcionise i sto je (uz relativno pristupacne uslove) moguce
ZT>ostvariti kontakt sa dosta ljudi, zabaviti se, resiti poneki problem, saznati
ZT>nesto... PTT, geo-udaljenost, vreme, novac - mnogima predstavlja
ZT>ogranicavajuci faktor, pa je zvanje BBS-a *u komsiluku* najkomotniji oblik
ZT>komunikacije. Jos ako postoji veza prema drugim sistemima... Ihaaj!
E, to je ono najlepse sto potiskuje u drugi plan sve ostalo...
¸> "I see", said the blind man, to his deaf wife...
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.1 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2033postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Re: bem vas u standard (was: Re: sezam zaglavlja)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:08:44 GMT
Vojislav Mihailovic (vojam@setnet.co.yu) wrote:
-> ZT> NM> nije bitno sto bi ukidanje navodnika mozda
-> ZT> NM> zbunilo cirka 5000 drugih hostova koji sada primaju bez problema,
-> ZT> NM> bitno je da njemu nema navodnika. leleeeeeeeeeee
-> Covek ne zna, pa pita. Sto mu ne objasnis? I mnogim drugim ljudima iz ove
-> konferencije nisu jasna pravila formiranja UUCP zaglavlja.
RFC-822. Ima ga na FFS, i ako je to problem, licno cu ga mailujem prvome
ko se javi da ga distribuira po SetNet, da vam ne gusim kanal time sto cu ga
ja slati svakome pojedinanco.
-> ZT> Za Brokera: Ima li sanse da se navodnici regulisu na samom
-> ZT> Gate-u?
-> Koliko sam ja upucen, navodnici se pojavljuju samo u slucaju kada UUCP primi
-> poruku za nepostojeceg korisnika i ta poruka ode Postmasteru, i obrnuto.
-> Sezamov softver je tako napravljen da poruke ne stizu direktno korisnicima,
-> vec Postmasteru, a onda neki eksterni program prodzara NEWMAIL.SPB i razdeli
-> poruke kome treba. Ovo ima nekoliko nezgodnih posledica, od kojih su navodnici
-> samo jedna. Naime, covek koji odgovara na poruku redovno zaboravi da navede
Netacno. Navodnici nisu nikakva posljedica rada postmast-a, vec
jednostavno nacin na koji oni kreiraju zaglavlje odlazecih poruka, koji je
sasvim u skladu sa RFC-822. Posto su to ODLAZECE poruke, gorepomenuti
mehanizam prijema se tu NE PRIMJENJUJE.
-> deo zaglavlja poruke na koju odgovara, sto unosi zabunu, onda, ne moze se
-> postaviti selektivni 'ignore' na jednog korisnika vec na sve (posto sve poruke
-> dolaze od posiljaoca POSTMASTER), a u igri su i razni nuzefekti na sistemima
Nista mi nije jasno, kakve ovo sad pa ima veze sa navodnicima? Ili je to
ajde da ja zbunim citaoce, kad ne budu shvatili sta sam pisao pomislice da
je to zbog njihove neznanja/neobavijestenosti a moje znanje nece sigurno
dovesti u pitanje? :)
-> koji ne koriste Unix. Verujem da kolega sa Sezama nemaju vremena da see bakcu
-> sa tim problemom i da ce on biti resen kad tad.
Hoce, kad isti privatizuju. Bice rijeseni svi problemi na koje se kuka
zadnjih pet godina, do jednoga.
email.2034postmast,
From: Nikola.Sivacki@f136.n103.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Nikola Sivacki)
Subject: Internet and Virtual Reality
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:03:01
Oh, hear Thee Mortal, The Greatest Nikola Sivacki:
SU> Nesto sam neki dan nacuo na TV-u i veoma me je
SU> zainteresovalo , elem , rekli su da je (negde) na Internetu
SU> omoguceno koriscene servisa u VR okolini . Da li neko ima nekih
SU> podataka o tome ili sam samo halucinirao , i sta mislite da li bi
SU> to bilo izvodljivo , ovo nema veze sa onim filmom u kom igra Demi
SU> Mur ( ne secam se naziva , uglavnom oni su pravili neke VR baze ,
SU> mislim da je rec o nekom Digitech-u ) .
.
Cisto sumnjam u tako nesto, cak sta vise ,mogu sigurno da tvrdim da tako nesto jos skoro nece biti moguce...Doduse, preko optickih kablova mozda, ali preko standardnih - ne.
Mada, bi bilo moguce,ali to bi podrazumevalo posedovanje posebnog softvera za mrezu(u kojem bi se nalazile sve moguce opcije i animacije za te iste opcije), pa bi sve islo tako sto bi preko jedne 28.8kbps veze (cisto sumnjam da bi na 14.4 ovo bilo m
oguce) bivani prenoseni samo podaci o opcijama, ne i same opcije...Ali ovo bi znacilo donekle menjanje celog interneta, a ne verujem da ce za to ljudi biti zainteresovani,jer on sasvim lepo radi i sada. Da ne govorim o tom novom softveru koji bi mor
ao da se razvije i koji bi morao da bude *prilicno* velik....Dovoljno velik da ne moze da se prenese preko veze u dogledno vreme, sto bi onda opet otezalo i oduzilo prihvatanje novog softvera....A da ne govorim o tome kakvu bi masinu ovakav internet
zahtevao....Dakle, mislim da je ovo JESTE izvodljivo,ali ne u sledecih 20 god(i sigurno ne sa ovakvim radnim stanicama)... Toliko od mene....
--== NCK ==-- /SBHS/
* ■ NICKRead ■ * STRESS N.: Doing a tight 180-degree U-turn at Warp 9.5.
* Origin: <-=SCORPION=-> * Bgd * 011-699-784 * 22-07 * SetNet: (38:103/136)
email.2035postmast,
From: anubis@hobbiton.CO.YU (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: Info-IBMPC Digest V95 #125
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 03:51:37 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.ibm.pc.digest ]
[ Author was Info-IBMPC Digest ]
[ Posted on Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:15:20 GMT ]
Info-IBMPC Digest Wed, 21 June 95 Volume 95 : Issue 125
Today's Editor:
Gregory Hicks - Santa Clara, CA <GHICKS@arl.mil>
Today's Topics:
Making UUPC/Extended work on an IBM PC/XT
Double picture viewer (DOS/WindozeOS/2)
"The Complete Idiot's Guide to PCs" by Kraynak
Re: 2-PC Network
Any info on Micron?
Bar code windows program
Can't boot
CD rom driver question
RE: Cheap Paint programs
Color Printing
COMPAQ QVISION
Re: Computer Associates
Re: Custom screen saver (X95 #111)
RE: Encyclopedias
Exabyte EXB-2501T Compatible Software?
Full List of games that work under OS/2
greek font monospaced for PC and for Mac (Q)
RE: Help my dear old mother
Re: Help needed..Problem loading windows
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 01:11 EDT
From: jeffrey@thompson.itm.org
Subject: Making UUPC/Extended work on an IBM PC/XT
I've got the UUPC to work with a 386/sx dos box talking with my linux
box. I'm trying to get an old IBMPC 8088 to do the same. I've set them
up the same way in UUPC, but the old IBMPC logs in, and then get's an
error:
After successfully logging in, linux gives its name, and my IBMPC
(beta1) gives its name, and then linux says, "You are unknown to me".
But I know I have the Permission and Systems files setup correctly on
both systems because I can login with the 386/sx under the same name
with no problem.
I'm using direct null modem cables to test this out.
I think it maybe a timing problem in the modem configuration. I'm only
talking at 2400 baud. I'm sure the IBMPC has the original 8250 chip for
serial communications.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks,
Jeffrey
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 19:36:15 CDT
From: "George Jorden (501) 968-0358" <JORDENG@atuvm.atu.edu>
Subject: Double picture viewer (DOS/WindozeOS/2)
Is there a viewer that will let you view more than one picture at a
time? Sort of a double barrel QPEG.
Reason. I have a several hundred megs of pictures some of which I know
I have duplicates of. But am not too sure. What I want is a way to be
able to view more than one (two would suffice) different pix at a time.
Sorta let me compare them to make sure which is of better quality or
dupes. Sorta like a double directory viewer but for pix. I use QPEG
(now called QPV) for DOS. I'm running OS/2. Yeah, I know that I can
have two or more windows /sessions open with OS/2 but I just need a
Quick Picture Viewer.
Thanx,
+ George W. Jorden + All opinions expressed are mine +
+ Computer Operator, + Nobody else wanted them. +
+ ATU Computer Center + +
+ E-Mail :- JORDENG@ATUVM.ATU.EDU
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:01:04 EST
From: "Rob Slade, Social Convener to the Net" <roberts@mukluk.hq.decus.ca>
Subject: "The Complete Idiot's Guide to PCs" by Kraynak
%A Joe Kraynak jkraynak@alpha.mcp.com
%C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290
%D 1994
%G 1-56761-459-0
%I Alpha Books
%O U$16.95/C$22.95 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com
%P 373
%S Complete Idiot's Guide ...
%T "The Complete Idiot's Guide to PCs"
"The Complete Idiot's Guide to PCs", Joe Kraynak, 1994, 1-56761-459-0,
U$16.95/C$22.95
Kraynak intends to tell you about the various parts of the PC, DOS and
Windows. Also word processing, spreadsheets, databases, graphics,
desktop publishing, modems, financial software, integrated software and
games. As well as some maintenance and troubleshooting.
He does give some basic information, and even a few good tips, here and
there. Unfortunately, he was much more interested in proving he could
tell jokes, and missed a great many opportunities to pass along good
and needed information.
So, if you want a joke, buy this book.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKCIG2PC.RVW 950503
DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733
Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses"
0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:51:49 -0500
From: Civ Bill Hensley <bhensley@ocdis01.tinker.af.mil>
Subject: Re: 2-PC Network
For an easy 2-pc network, try using the INTERLNK and INTERSRV programs
that come with DOS 6 (and 5, I think). I use these with the
bi-directional parallel cable to hook my desktop and laptops and it
works fine. I have two available parallel ports, one for my printer
and one for the interlink.
It's cheaper than buying laplink or network adaptors.
Bill Hensley
TRW Oklahoma City Engineering Office
bhensley@oceo.trw.com
Sorry it took so long to reply. I tried sending directly to the
original poster at mcimail.com, but several tries at address formatting
never made it through the mcimail gateway.
bh
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:26:19 EST
From: Robert Acosta <ACOSTA%SNYBKSAC.BITNET@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Any info on Micron?
A friend is about to purchase his first computer and is currently
looking at Micron computers. He saw a advertisement for a Pentium
90mhz, 8 mb ram, 800mg harddrive and wanted to know whether or not this
was a decent company. The price was about $2,000 that included the
monitor and cd-rom drive. Any information will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
------------------------------
From: Guybrush Threepwood <faura@die.upm.es>
Subject: Bar code windows program
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 12:51:47 +0200 (MET DST)
Greetings from Madrid, Spain
Does anybody know a Windows program capable of generating bar
codes, in particular with the EAN-12 standard? Any help will be much
appreciated
Julio
Julio Faura
Dept. Ingenieria Electronica
E.T.S.I.Telecomunicacion - U.P.M.
C/ Universitaria S/N
28040 Madrid - SPAIN
e-mail: faura@die.upm.es
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:51:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: YONG HUANG <Y0H8797@acs.tamu.edu>
Subject: Can't boot
The problem: I wanted to disable autoexec.bat and config.sys. So I
RENed them to other filenames. Warmboot the computer. It showed the
rectangular box fine where all information was there (including Hard
disk type 47). After "Starting MS-DOS...", it prompted for date. Just
after I pressed return and the default date which is correct date was
accepted, the computer hung.
The keyboard was locked. RESET repeated the above. [Note: if I press
return fast enough, I can let it go to "Enter new time..." and even to
the C:\ prompt. The cursor is always blinking. But still only coldboot
can make it move.]
I put a floppy disk containing the two system hidden files and
command.com (MSDOS 6.22, I should've pressed F5 to bypass autoexec.bat
and config.sys) and the original config.sys and autoexec.bat I saved.
Boot it. It goes to A:\. But when I type C:\, it says "Invalid drive
specification". I can do DIR and TYPE at A:\ but not any external DOS
commands. I checked CMOS which I firmly believe I didn't touch.
Everything looks fine. But I didn't compare it with the original
setting since I didn't jot it down. I reset CMOS to factory and/or
power on default. Didn't help.
The computer specification: 386 (CompuAdd), no math processor, BIOS
date 05/05/91, 8 MB memory, D to H drives are CD-ROM. A laser printer
and a scanner are hooked up. Primary display VGA/PGA/EGA. C drive type
47=USER TYPE, 1011 Cyln, 15 Head, 0 WPcom, 0 LZone, 22 Sect, 163MB
(from CMOS screen, which also says hard disk D not installed. But I
used D: before and I don't think DOS is on drive D).
Thanks for any idea.
Yong
y0h8797@acs.tamu.edu
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 17:22:56 PDT
From: mauvil@vnet.ibm.com
Subject: CD rom driver question
I just upgraded to dos7 and my cd driver diskette says wrong level dos
so how to correct ? the ibm 1-800 is of little help so far.....help so
I can get my CD working again on my PS/1
------------------------------
From: Kasey Chang <KaseyC@discopy.com>
Subject: RE: Cheap Paint programs
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 12:52:00 PDT
From: Gene Mayro <geno@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
>I am looking for a cheap paint program for Windows, that I can put on
>my network. It should be able to read GIF, JPEG, as well as BMP. Are
>there any programs like that out there?
It's actually easier to edit in BMP (you can do that with Paintbrush),
then convert with something like Paintshop Pro.
--Kasey Chang / kaseyc@discopy.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 15:19:05 +0800 (GMT+0800)
From: Foundation for Resource Linkage and Development <frld@misa.pfi.net>
Subject: Color Printing
I need to print color graphs on an HP Deskjet color printer. The
software I am using does not have a print facility and I can only print
using <PrintScreen>. Is there a way I can color print using <Print
Screen>?
I would really appreciate any suggestion.
Thanks a lot.
Noemi
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:16:42 +0200
From: Neuret Eddy <eneuret@sckcen.be>
Subject: COMPAQ QVISION
Hi all,
I am looking after any informations on this video card and/or on any
program which permit to know type, resolution, ...
Thanks in advance.
* \\\\\\\ NEURET Eddy TEL:(+32) 14 332229 *
* o . o SCK - CEN FAX:(+32) 14 321529 *
* U Fuel Research Unit *
* Computer System Engineer *
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:14:25 PDT
From: Wally_T._Zajac.LAX1B@xerox.com
Subject: Re: Computer Associates
Computer Associates can be found at http://www.cai.com. I also have a
BBS number of 516-434-1753.
Wally Zajac
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 06:59:05 EDT
From: lmendlow@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Subject: Re: Custom screen saver (X95 #111)
Jim,
In issue 111 you write asking for either commercial or shareware screen
savers that can handle a user provided bitmap. I'm not sure of any
shareware programs that can do this but commercially AFTER DARK can use
your own provided bitmap picture in several of their modules.
------------------------------
From: Kasey Chang <KaseyC@discopy.com>
Subject: RE: Encyclopedias
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 12:55:00 PDT
From: Keith <randy@unix.tpe.com>
>Does anyone have any suggestions/comments as to either Groilers, or
>Compton's Multi Media Encyclopedia on CD??? Any other Suggestions???
>How about Encarta??? Is that the same thing???
I have Compton's, older and newer versions. Compton's is the first one
into CD Encyclopedia market and it shows. The new ones have LOTS of
stuff, and even the old ones are pretty good, with heavy discounts.
Never tried Groliers. :-/
Encarta is from Microsoft, and MS knows what they're doing too.
Encarta is a little shy on content but it makes up by being MORE user-
friendly than Compton's and more "glitzy". :-)
--Kasey Chang / kaseyc@discopy.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:12:00 -0600 (CST)
From: "Robert E. Malick" <MALICK.ROBERT@igate.pprd.abbott.com>
Subject: Exabyte EXB-2501T Compatible Software?
I have tried the following software for the Exabyte EXB-2501T External
SCSI Tape Drive:
Norton Backup 3.0 for Windows
CP Backup for Windows 2.0
Adaptec EZ-SCSI 3.1
I get either unsupported errors or incompatible tape format errors. I
am using 3M MC3000XL tapes...
If anyone is using this drive, please e-mail me with compatible
software that you are using for DOS, Windows, or OS/2... I will
summarize to the list.
I need the names/vendor of DOS and/or Windows (16 or 32 bit) backup
software that actually works with the Exabyte EXB-2501T SCSI Tape
Drive.
Thanks In Advance,
Rob Malick
malick.robert@igate.abbott.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 7:49:42 -0500
From: Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu>
Subject: Full List of games that work under OS/2
> From: Abhay Shah <NWWY36A@prodigy.com>
> Date: 26 Mar 1995 18:28:30 GMT
>
> I would like to have a list of games that fully work under OS/2 Warp.
>
It would be much much shorter to get a list of games that do not work
under OS/2. I do not pay attention to this, since I do very little
computer gaming, but I have not had any problem with any of the games
I've played. I know there are a few rare games that don't work, but in
most work great. There is a document on the net for getting DOS games
to work under OS/2: ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu:/os2/info/games21c.zip
Clark
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 01:45:12 +0100
From: maurizio lana <lana@cisi.unito.it>
Subject: greek font monospaced for PC and for Mac (Q)
Does anyone know where I could find a monospaced greek font (in
TrueType format, if possible)? I only know of proportional greek
fonts, but I need to write greek words so that they stand out in order
in rows and columns. Many thanks to everyone.
Maurizio
Maurizio Lana - lana@cisi.unito.it | fax 39-11-8991648
CISI Universita'di Torino Via S. Ottavio 20, 10124 Torino - Italy
Editor of "Arachnion. A Journal of Ancient Literature and History on the Web"
http://www.cisi.unito.it/arachne/arachne.html
------------------------------
From: Kasey Chang <KaseyC@discopy.com>
Subject: RE: Help my dear old mother
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 13:04:00 PDT
From: Dan Nessett <Danny.Nessett@eng.sun.com>
>So, I wonder if there is anyone out there that might help
>my dear old mother (and indirectly her dear old son), and
>give me a hint about the right course of action. I would
>greatly appreciate it.
Well, you have several options, depending on what you DO know about
PC's. :-)
1) replace the floppy drive. I HOPE it's not a low-density 5.25" since
those are impossible to find nowadays. But even so they may still be
around... It's less than $50.
2) repair that thing at a store, may cost you $100 or more depending on
amount of time spent and what needs to be replaced. Most places that
sell them can probably help, though I would try for a smaller shop. In
the SF Bay area, Domino Computers is known as a "U-build" computer shop
and have lots of parts and advice with lots of branch offices. They
should be able to help. Libre computer is similar.
--Kasey Chang / kaseyc@discopy.com
------------------------------
From: Kasey Chang <KaseyC@discopy.com>
Subject: Re: Help needed..Problem loading windows
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 12:54:00 PDT
[Trying to run windows on following platform]
> It is Intel 386DX 25 CPU..
> HD is 85MB ( Out of that 72MB FREE)
> RAM installed is 2Meg(SHows 1024MB extended RAM)
Personally, unless you have A LOT of patience, I would NOT run Windows
on this system. Maybe in standard mode...
--Kasey Chang / kaseyc@discopy.com
------------------------------
*********************************
End of Info-IBMPC Digest V95 #125
--
-+-
Igor Loncarevic, anubis@hobbiton.CO.YU
anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu
Linux - The choice of GNU generation
email.2036postmast,
From: Slobodan.Utvic@f119.n111.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Utvic)
Subject: Agent 0.55 Online
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:36:00
Imam problema sa Agentom 0.55 . Kada pokusam da ga krnem Online izbaci
mi error poruku
WSAEINPROGRESS Error 10036
Da li neko zna o cem se radi , da li da ponovo skidam Agenta sa UBBG-a
ili je to izlecivo .
Utvara
... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
email.2037postmast,
From: Slobodan.Utvic@f119.n111.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Utvic)
Subject: Internet and Virtual Reality
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:36:01
Piitanje za poklonike ove konferencije :
Nesto sam neki dan nacuo na TV-u i veoma me je zainteresovalo ,
elem , rekli su da je (negde) na Internetu omoguceno koriscene servisa u VR
okolini . Da li neko ima nekih podataka o tome ili sam samo halucinirao , i
sta mislite da li bi to bilo izvodljivo , ovo nema veze sa onim filmom u kom
igra Demi Mur ( ne secam se naziva , uglavnom oni su pravili neke VR baze ,
mislim da je rec o nekom Digitech-u ) .
Call me now or then !!
UTVARA
... MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
email.2038postmast,
From: zoran@setnet.co.yu (Zoran Tomic)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 16:55:00
* Asli Djuricin in message to Zoran Tomic wrote:
AD> Dobro, saznaj razlog, ali ja zbilja ne marim :)
Pa i saznao sam nesto: ono sa navodnicima potice od UUPC-a (ako i bude
reseno, to ce verovatno biti interno ovde kod nas), a puna imena zavise od
raznih Mailera, Tossera...
AD> ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ZT>Otkud da je .ac? Da li je Panon poceo sa razmenom YUInt konferencija?
AD> Nije, vec samo ide mail preko ns.ac
Novosadski akademci su mi jos i najpasivniji u celom projektu: mislim da
sam svega jednom video njihov domen u YUInt konferencijama, a i to je bilo
pre dosta meseci. Steta je. Univerzitet je prilicno veliki, kvalitetan.
Znaci bar mail ide tamo kako treba?
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
email.2039postmast,
From: zoran@setnet.co.yu (Zoran Tomic)
Subject: CUT.RELIGION
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:13:01
* Vinko Velinov in message to All wrote:
VV> Ja jesam tako shvatio poruku. Dobro, ja prihvatam ovo objasnjenje.
Onda je razjasnjena stvar. Mozda je i dobro sto smo malo "varnicili", posto
je kod nekog moglo u podsvesti da ostane ono sto mi nije bila namera. ;)
Pozdrav!
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53-884 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
email.2040postmast,
From: vojam@setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic)
Subject: bem vas u standard (was: Re: sezam zaglavlja)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:42:00
* Nik Malenovic rece:
ZT> NM> jao tipicna balkanchina ;-) nije bitno sto bi ukidanje navodnika
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ovo je toliko maliciozno da te ni smajli ne vadi.
ZT> NM> nije bitno sto bi ukidanje navodnika mozda
ZT> NM> zbunilo cirka 5000 drugih hostova koji sada primaju bez problema,
ZT> NM> bitno je da njemu nema navodnika. leleeeeeeeeeee
Covek ne zna, pa pita. Sto mu ne objasnis? I mnogim drugim ljudima iz ove
konferencije nisu jasna pravila formiranja UUCP zaglavlja.
ZT> Za Brokera: Ima li sanse da se navodnici regulisu na samom
ZT> Gate-u?
Koliko sam ja upucen, navodnici se pojavljuju samo u slucaju kada UUCP primi
poruku za nepostojeceg korisnika i ta poruka ode Postmasteru, i obrnuto.
Sezamov softver je tako napravljen da poruke ne stizu direktno korisnicima,
vec Postmasteru, a onda neki eksterni program prodzara NEWMAIL.SPB i razdeli
poruke kome treba. Ovo ima nekoliko nezgodnih posledica, od kojih su navodnici
samo jedna. Naime, covek koji odgovara na poruku redovno zaboravi da navede
deo zaglavlja poruke na koju odgovara, sto unosi zabunu, onda, ne moze se
postaviti selektivni 'ignore' na jednog korisnika vec na sve (posto sve poruke
dolaze od posiljaoca POSTMASTER), a u igri su i razni nuzefekti na sistemima
koji ne koriste Unix. Verujem da kolega sa Sezama nemaju vremena da see bakcu
sa tim problemom i da ce on biti resen kad tad.
Vojislav Mihailovic
Politika BBS
* Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)
email.2041postmast,
From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: Svaka ti cast...
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:17:47
VP> From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic)
VP> Na tvoj poruku mogu samo da kazem: Svaka ti cast!
VP> Do sada smo ti i ja kako-tako kontaktirali putem Mial-a bas iz
VP> razloga sto sam ja hteo da izbegnem javnu raspravu, ako ni zbog
VP> cega drugog ono bar zbog ostalih ljudi ovde!
...
VP> Od sada ti se necu obracati ni mail-om, ne smem, ono sto sto sam
VP> ti pisao u privatanom mailu iznosis u javnost! To nikada, nigde
VP> nisam video, a osim kod tebe, mislim da necu ni da vidim!
Izvini Vlado, samo mi jos objasni kako to da sve SETNet
korisnike obavestim da ne smeju vise da te pominju u porukama a
da to ne uradim javnom porukom? Mozda da svakome od njih posaljem
po jedan mail?
Ja sam to uradio da bih ti izasao u susret i zamolio korisike da te
ne pominju, jer si ti tako trazio. Ti, naprotiv, pustas tudji mail
u javnost cak i kada ti ljudi to izricito ne dozvole...
No, to sve nema veze, ja sam samo uradio ono sto si od mene trazio.
a ti, ako hoces da ja svoje korisnike upozorim da te ne pominju, a
uz to da im to i ne kazem, jer si ti to od mene trazio u mail-u,
onda ja ne znam kako to da izvedem?!?!?! Da predlozim sisopima da lepo
ugasimo SETNet, da ti ne bismo bili trn u oku?
... Ako hoces da nesto bude uradjeno, moras to sam uraditi.
-+- OLMS 2.5 UNREG
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.2042postmast,
From: dusan.djordjevic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Dusan Djordjevic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:07:00 CET
QWK To: Aleksandar Nikolajevic
AN> Ne kazem da je UNIX bauk. Samo je problem nedostatak informacija. Za
AN> nekog ko zna UNIX to mozda i ne smeta. Problem za pocetnika na
AN> UNIX-u koji nema ambicije da ga uci, je nepoznavanje osnovnih komandi.
Mozda je tako, al meni je UNIX mnogo lakse prosao nego VMS. Kad sam dobio
potrebu za e-mailom dobio sam user na vax-u i oje*o se da provalim kako
rade neke stvari. Zato sada koristim UNIX:)
AN> Istina tu postoji nekakav help ili man, ali je to sve prilagodjeno za
AN> one koji ga vec dobro poznaju, vise kao podsetnik, nego help.
Kad sam ja na svolu masinu instalirao linux sve sto sam znao o tome je da
je to jedna vrsta unix-a. Posto sam imao zelju da malko naucim unix osim
osnovnih komandi (ls, rm, cp...) seo sam i procitao man. Nije tako tezak,
mada nije ni boza...
AN> Meni su recimo vadili mast editori vi, ed ili emacs. Od kako se
AN> pojavio pine laknulo mi je. A tek Eudora... Pesma, bye UNIX radim sve
AN> iz windowsa.
Iskreno receno vi znam toliko koliko da ukucam i snimim nesto ako na masini
ne postoji nikakav drugi editor. Inace koristim joe (word star-like).
I dalje ostajem pri svom stavu da je UNIX zakon za komunikacije u mrezi. A
front-end interfejsu nek bude i u njindonjsima ako treba, tj. ako je
korisniku tako lakse. Nemam nista protiv.
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
email.2043postmast,
From: vladap@durlan.co.yu (Vladislav Petrovic)
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 23:47:33 CET
---------------------------
Koliko sam ja upucen, navodnici se pojavljuju samo u slucaju kada UUCP primi
poruku za nepostojeceg korisnika i ta poruka ode Postmasteru, i obrnuto.
Sezamov softver je tako napravljen da poruke ne stizu direktno korisnicima,
vec Postmasteru, a onda neki eksterni program prodzara NEWMAIL.SPB i razdeli
poruke kome treba. Ovo ima nekoliko nezgodnih posledica, od kojih su navodnici
samo jedna. Naime, covek koji odgovara na poruku redovno zaboravi da navede
deo zaglavlja poruke na koju odgovara, sto unosi zabunu, onda, ne moze se
postaviti selektivni 'ignore' na jednog korisnika vec na sve (posto sve poruke
dolaze od posiljaoca POSTMASTER), a u igri su i razni nuzefekti na sistemima
koji ne koriste Unix. Verujem da kolega sa Sezama nemaju vremena da see bakcu
sa tim problemom i da ce on biti resen kad tad.
Vojislav Mihailovic
Politika BBS
------------------------------
Da se razumemo: UUCP (Unix to Unix Copy Program) ama bas nista
ne stavlja! To rade: RNews, RMail, PLAIN, CNews...
A svi oni su, manje-vise pisani tako da prihvate bilo koji oblik
hedera u poruci! Cak i Waffle-ovi (DOS/*NIX) RMail i RNews prihvate
sve od dole navedenih primera! Zavisi kako se samo definisu u odgova-
rajucim datotekama (static, system, ...)
Evo i originalnih primera:
Besides the papers and information acknowledged at the top of this
article, the following people have contributed help, advice,
suggestions and information:
Earle Ake 513-429-6500 <ake@Dayton.SAIC.COM>
celit!billd@UCSD.EDU (Bill Davidson)
Matthew Farwell <dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk>
"Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU>
"David J. MacKenzie" <djm@eng.umd.edu>
david nugent <david@csource.oz.au>
Stephen.Page@prg.oxford.ac.uk
joey@tessi.UUCP (Joey Pruett)
Larry Rosenman <ler@lerami.lerctr.org>
Rich Salz <rsalz@bbn.com>
kls@ditka.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz)
Dima Volodin <dvv@hq.demos.su>
jon@console.ais.org (Jon Zeeff)
------------------------------
End of UUCP Internals Frequently Asked Questions
******************************
--
Ovo je deo iz gore navedenog fajla. Kao sto vidis ima vise primera,
svi su originalni i svi su --validni-- !!! Moze i sa navodnicima, sa
bangovima i sa tackom izmedju imena i prezimena, moze i adresa pa ime i
prezime, a moze i obrnuto, da se upotrebljavaju velika i mala slova,
cak i brojevi, i... Sve je kako treba, zavisi koji se program na datom
sistemu upotrebljava!
I nemaju veze sa postamasterima (koji, uzgred, mogu biti i Root,
System, UUCP, Uucp, kako ti volja)!
Treba samo shvatiti "da moje (ipak) nije najbolje" i prihvatiti
odluke drugih da upotrebljavaju one programe koji im najvise
odgovaraju!
Vlada___
---
email.2044postmast,
From: vladap@durlan.co.yu
Subject: bem vas u standard
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 01:21:24 CET
Ja rekoh da necu da ti repliciram, ali, kako neki ovde vec rekose,
ti ne mozes da zines a da ne slazes!
-------------
Izvini Vlado, samo mi jos objasni kako to da sve SETNet
korisnike obavestim da ne smeju vise da te pominju u porukama a
da to ne uradim javnom porukom? Mozda da svakome od njih posaljem
po jedan mail?
-------------
Ma hajde, ne foliraj se, pa dete iz osnovne skole bi to bolje
uradilo za domaci zadatak!
-------------
Ja sam to uradio da bih ti izasao u susret i zamolio korisike da te
ne pominju, jer si ti tako trazio. Ti, naprotiv, pustas tudji mail
u javnost cak i kada ti ljudi to izricito ne dozvole...
-------------
Uvek si bio originalan i od kaputa pravio loptu! Tvoja briga za
druge je meni odlicno poznata, kada mi ( a i drugima ) psovase
Srpsku Majku na SETNet-u cutao si kao riba! Ma daj covece!
Sto se tice mail-a koje sam ja objavio kazi lepo da to nije bio
mail vec poruka iz zatvorene konferencije gde smo se nas nekoliko
SysOp-a tadasnjeg BBLink-a dopisivali. A to nije Mail !!! Kakav je
to mail u vasem NET.SYSOPS ??? Gluposti, obicno cirkularno pismo
ti nazivas mail-om, pa, da, krstis ga kako ti kad odgovara.
Iz te poruke je bilo izbaceno --sve-- osim imena konferencije, eno
je poruka jos stoji na RH BBS-u! I nigde ne stoji zabrana da se ta
poruka objavi!
A kazi i zasto sam je objavio: povodom nase svadje na RH BBS-u gde
si tvrdio da nisi zvao telefonom SysOp-e koji su tada bili i u SETNet-u
i u BBLink-u i pretio im da ce leteti iz SETNet-a i da nece biti pri-
mljeni u YUCCA! A da si pretio - pretio si, to i dan danas tvrdim.
Uostalom, to ste nedavno, stidljivo priznali i u NET.SYSOPS, da,
"pravili ste greske u koracima"!
-------------
No, to sve nema veze, ja sam samo uradio ono sto si od mene trazio.
a ti, ako hoces da ja svoje korisnike upozorim da te ne pominju, a
uz to da im to i ne kazem, jer si ti to od mene trazio u mail-u,
onda ja ne znam kako to da izvedem?!?!?! Da predlozim sisopima da lepo
ugasimo SETNet, da ti ne bismo bili trn u oku?
-------------
Taman posla, iskreno receno - bas me briga za SETNet! Radi sta hoces,
busaj se u grudi koliko hoces, SETNet je autokratska tvorevina (tvoja)
i radi sa njim sta hoces!
Niko nema prava da nikoga (pa, ako hoces cak ni Nemesisa) proglasava
za slikovca, iza njegovog imana, razdojenim zarezom stajalo je moj alias
i reagovao sam kako sam reagovao! I to mail-om, na tvoju adresu, tebi
"na ruke". Ti jadan i naivan, me branis - bas ti hvala na takvoj
odbrani <g>.
I daj, majku mu, umes li ti da napises mail ??? Ako ti je bas toliko
stalo do mog misljenja i da mi "cujes glas" pisi mi na mail, adresu
znas i imas je! Ja ti jednom poslah predlog za saradnju (secas se: status
pridruzenih clanova SETNet-a (ma jok, sa'ce da te uhvati trenutna amnezija
- po obicaju!)), hajd' mi napisi mail kako da prevazidjemo sve ovo na
obostranu korist i zadovoljstvo!
---------
Svima ostalima se izvinjavam za sum, no optuzbe behu teske i lazne -
morao sam zaista jos ovaj put!
Od sada ko god hoce da mi pise bilo sta a sto nije vezano za temu ove
konferencije moju adresu imate u zaglavlju poruke!
Hvala!
Vladislav Petrovic
---
email.2045postmast,
From: zdule@herkules.co.yu (Dusan Mihajlovic)
Subject: Re: Molba
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 01:53:14 GMT
broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) writes:
> Zamolicu korisnike SETNet-a koji prate ovu konferenciju da
> se uzdrzavaju da u svojim porukama u ovoj i svim ostalim SETNet
> konferencijama pominju imena: Vladap sa Durlana ili Piksi sa
> Rolling Stones-a, posto sam od Vladep dobio prilicno ostar mail
> u kome je izmedju stalog rekao:
>
> "Spomene li mene ili Piksija jos neko od tvojih mamlaza sa SETNet-a
> u bilo kojem kontekstu tek ima da bude maskembal na YUInternet-u!"
Stvarno si neverovatan. Ova poruka je tipican primer kako volis da
krivis istinu, "..neko od tvojih mamalaza sa SETNet-a..." nije upuceno
sirim narodnim masama vec tvojim mamlazima tj. tvojim poltronima. Uz to
mogao si da se uzdrzis od produzivanja ove rasprave u konferenciji da ne
bi vise produzivao svadju i samim tim sum, a time bez potrebe povecavao
troskove razmene poste nama i vama. (podsecam na nekoga a?)
ZDule...
email.2046postmast,
From: dusan.djordjevic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Dusan Djordjevic)
Subject: Re: internet and virtual
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:26:00 CET
QWK To: Slobodan Utvic
SU> Nesto sam neki dan nacuo na TV-u i veoma me je zainteresovalo
SU> , elem , rekli su da je (negde) na Internetu omoguceno koriscene
SU> servisa u VR
SU> okolini . Da li neko ima nekih podataka o tome ili sam samo
SU> halucinirao , i
Ne bih rekao da si halucinirao, zato sto to uopste nije neizvodljivo. U
BYTE-u s pocetka ove godine sam citao tekst da se eksperimentise sa tim
stvarima. Za sad postoje 2 prepreke: brzina racunara (koja je u zadnje
vreme toliko porasla da nisam vise siguran da je prepreka) i propusna moc
linija. Oni su eksperimentisali kroz neke ekstra brze (i jos vise ekstra
skupe) vodove. Kad se i cena linija dovoljno spusti eto nama zabave :)
... Zasto da bude prosto, kad moze komplikovano?
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
#! rnews 896
email.2047postmast,
From: balsa@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Balsa Stipcevic)
Subject: Country Codes
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:45:42 GMT
Archive-name: mail/country-codes
Last-modified: 1995/08/18
Based on International Standard ISO 3166 Names
Compiled by Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond
E-mail: <ocl@ic.ac.uk>
Release: 95.08.05
Release Notes: a. Bolivia (BO), Saint Lucia (LC), Malta (MT)
and Georgia (GE) with Full Internet (FI)
b. Senegal with Provisional connection (PFI)
c. World Wide Web (WWW) version available
This document is Copyright 1995 by Olivier Crepin-Leblond.
No part of this document may be reproduced in any commercial publication
by any means - graphic, electronic, or mechanical, including photocopying,
recording, taping, or storage in an information retrieval system without
prior written permission of the copyright holder.
It may however be freely redistributed in its entirety provided that
this copyright notice, its headers "Archive-name", "Last-modified",
and "Release" are not removed.
Every now-and-then there are enquiries on the net regarding
E-mail to a distant country. The question is often of the type
"has that country got E-mail access ?". The following table is a
guide of country codes, showing the countries which have access to
Internet or general E-mail services. The country codes have been
derived from the International Organization for Standardization
standard ISO 3166. A country code is taken as a top level domain
once it is registered at rs.internic.net so *not* all country codes
listed are top level domains. At the bottom of the table, there is
also a section of general top level domains, based on the information
available at rs.internic.net.
NOTES:
1. Description of codes:
FI stands for FULL INTERNET access. This includes 'telnet', 'ftp',
and internet E-mail.
B stands for BITNET access although the address may be in internet
DNS (Domain Name System) format.
* (Asterisk) means that the country is reachable by E-mail. If this is
not preceded by FI or B, it means that the connection may be a UUCP
connection. An asterisk is included after FI or B for consistency.
PFI stands for a provisional full internet connection.(+)
P stands for provisional connection. (+)
(+) This is used when one or more of the following is true:
- address not verified or lack of address
- UUCP dialup not active
- net connection possible but not officially announced
- premature official announcement of connection
F stands for a country that is connected to Internet only via means
of the FIDOnet network. It is assumed that the FIDO connection in this
case is stable and reliable.
2. Networks which are not included:
Networks such as MILNET (U.S. Military's unclassified portion of the
DDN - Data Defense Network) have computers all around the world. It is
generally possible to assume that wherever there is a U.S. military base,
there will be a node reachable through gateways.
Private company networks such as for DEC (Digital Equipment Corp.),
or Sun Microsystems, for example, have nodes in many exotic locations.
However the connection may take place via UUCP and cost a lot of money.
Those networks have therefore not been included. In addition, those
are PRIVATE networks.
Many companies ( like U.S. Sprint, for example ) offer commercial
services to many countries which are not readily available on
the Internet. The service is VERY COSTLY, usually takes place via
UUCP or X.400 connections. X.400 E-mail is usually charged to
someone and if the telecommunication carrier cannot find someone
to pay for the message transfer, it will reject it. As a result,
those types of network have not been included in the list.
Although a user may RECEIVE E-mail from a user on those networks, one
may not be able to reply to it.
3. Updates:
The situation changes from day to day. The growth in international
networking is such that the information contained in this document
may be out of date by the time it reaches you.
If you have any update (i.e. knowledge that a new country is connected),
please send a message to <ocl@ic.ac.uk>, including an example address
from the country reached so that it can be verified.
Furthermore, if you are a connection provider or could provide a
low cost connection in a country, and are not listed as a provider in
that country (see "FURTHER INFORMATION" section), please notify either
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> or me.
NOTE: This doesn't include providers for North America.
If you are a North American provider, then please DON'T contact us.
4. .US sites
While there are several hundreds of BITNET nodes in USA, none have
a name in the format `.US'. That's why the .us domain is only FI and *.
5. .edu, .com, etc.
The domains in this section are special in that some of them are
used in more than one country. The domains which have full internet
access are marked accordingly. However, this doesn't mean that *all*
of those domains have full internet access. For example,
only a small proportion of .mil sites have full internet access. The
same is true for .com sites, for example.
6. UK and GB domains
There are two codes for United Kingdom, namely UK and GB. While
UK is used for addressing of most domains in DNS format, the field
GB is used mainly in the X.400 addressing of United Kingdom sites.
However, there is an increasing trend in some United Kingdom sites
being directly connected to Internet under the GB domain. The GB domain
is hence a perfectly suitable Internet top level domain.
When looking for further information, it is worth looking at both
UK and GB for United Kingdom.
7. Further information column
This column contains information as follows:
- E-mail address of a contact from which further information may be obtained
and/or
- Details of a gopher system that can be queried for further information
in this case, look at Section 8: Where to find further information
or
- If no other information available: nameserver details, if any.
This is the main nameserver as listed in the rs.internic.net database.
Those often change as the network grows, and it is hard to keep track of
all nameservers, but they should usually work. Nameservers can be
queried by users using nslookup.
8. Where to find further information
A number of sites run on-line information databases, mail-servers,
and gopher information systems where further information can be found.
- rs.internic.net
Part of this site, the InterNIC database services, contains the
Internet "white pages". The "whois" section of the "white pages"
has registration records for top level domains. "whois" can be
accessed by connecting interactively (telnet rs.internic.net),
or via gopher (gopher rs.internic.net) or using the "whois"
command available on some computer systems (whois -h rs.internic.net).
Registration records for a domain are sometimes useful since they
provide Administrative and Technical Contacts for this domain
and those may hence be able to provide further information.
- gopher.ripe.net
This is a gopher system run by ripe.net, the co-ordinator for
European Internet nodes. It contains a lot of information regarding
European IP, etc. It may be accessed either as "gopher gopher.ripe.net"
or "telnet gopher.ripe.net" and logging-in appropriately.
It also has a "whois" database.
- GNET: an Archive and Electronic Journal
This is co-ordinated by Larry Press <lpress@dhvx20.csudh.edu>
Archived documents are available by anonymous ftp from the
directory global_net at dhvx20.csudh.edu (155.135.1.1). To
conserve bandwidth, the archive contains an abstract of each
document, as well as the full document.
In addition to the archive, there is a moderated GNET
discussion list.
To submit a document to the archive or subscribe to the moderated
discussion list, use the address gnet_request@dhvx20.csudh.edu.
- BITNIC Bitnet Network Information Center
Bitnet LISTSERVs contain files which list all BITNET sites around
the world. For a listing of all BITNET sites, in country code order,
send a message to LISTSERV@Bitnic.educom.edu (or LISTSERV@BITNIC for
BITNET folks), no subject, and the command:
GET NODES INFO3
in the body of the message.
A very long file of information on all international BITNET sites
can be ftp'ed from Bitnic.educom.edu and is called BITEARN.NODES .
It is more than 2Mb long.
- gopher.psg.com
This gopher system, maintained by the Network Startup Resource
Center and PSGnet/RAINet contains perhaps the most comprehensive
collection of information about country connectivity.
It may be accessed as "gopher gopher.psg.com". For the gopher client
impaired, one can telnet to gopher.psg.com and login as gopher.
An important feature is an E-mail interface to access the information
in the gopher system.
Send E-mail to: server@gopher.psg.com
any subject, and in the body of the message:
send country/<country-code>
Example: if you want further information about Brazil (country code BR)
send country/BR
Many thanks to Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> and to John Klensin
<klensin@infoods.unu.edu> for setting-up this site and this
collaborative effort.
9. Archiving
Once released, this document is archived in a number of archive
sites around the world. Amongst them:
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/
ftp://lth.se:/pub/netnews/news.answers/mail/
#ftp://ftp.uu.net:/usenet/news.answers/mail/
#ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk:/mirrors/uunet/usenet/news.answers/mail/
#ftp://ftp.univ-lyon1.fr:/pub/faq/by-name/mail/
(#) those may not be accessible via Bear access or direct PC access
in some cases.
Via E-mail request as follows:
mail ftpmail@grasp.insa-lyon.fr
Subject: no one cares
open
[mime]
get pub/faq/by-name/mail/country-codes
quit
where [ ] = optional
All FAQs are also available via listserv@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be or
listserv@blekul11.bitnet . For an index of all FAQs available,
put the command GET NETFAQS FILELIST in the body of your message.
The document is also retrievable by E-mail from rtfm.mit.edu by
sending an E-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu , blank subject line
and the command: send usenet/news.answers/mail/country-codes
The up-to-date, pre-release document is also available using an
experimental simple mail-server that I have setup from my account.
Send E-mail to: <ocl@ic.ac.uk> with a subject: archive-server-request
and the command: get mail/country-codes in the body of your message.
The document is also distributed automatically once a month on a
mailing list. To subscribe to that mailing list, send a message to:
listserver@ic.ac.uk with the command in the body of the message:
SUBSCRIBE country-codes <your-name>
where "<your-name>" is your real name.
10. New World-Wide-Web (WWW) document
An experimental (i.e: under construction) WWW version of this document
is available as:
http://www.ee.ic.ac.uk/misc/country-codes.html
This is currently experimental, so its reference may change at short
notice, and some of the links in the document are currently not working.
HTTP references for Top-Level information servers for a particular country
should be sent to <ocl@ic.ac.uk>.
ISO 3166 Codes + Top level domains.
WARNING:
The link to some countries marked as being connected to Internet via
UUCP or FIDO is often an expensive telephone dialup link. The people
in those countries pay dearly for every byte of information sent to
them. It is therefore not advised to send an electronic mail to a
remote node in such a country asking "how's the weather there".
When it comes to money, people take things very seriously, especially
since funds are scarce. It is a matter of net etiquette to keep this
in mind. Junk mail sent to any node that has to pay a lot for its
telephone connection will clearly be dealt with HARSHLY and evasive
action may well be taken against those not respecting this notice.
Code Country Conn Notes Further information
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
AD Andorra
AE United Arab Emirates FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
AF Afghanistan(Islamic St.)
AG Antigua and Barbuda FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
AI Anguilla FI *
AL Albania P gopher gopher.psg.com
AM Armenia FI * Ex-USSR
AN Netherland Antilles
AO Angola (Republic of) * gopher gopher.psg.com
AQ Antarctica FI * intermittent luxor.cc.waikato.ac.nz
AR Argentina FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
AS American Samoa
AT Austria FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
AU Australia FI * munnari.oz.au
AW Aruba * gopher gopher.psg.com
AZ Azerbaijan FI B * Ex-USSR gopher gopher.psg.com
BA Bosnia-Herzegovina
BB Barbados FI * upr1.upr.clu.edu
BD Bangladesh F
BE Belgium FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
BF Burkina Faso * gopher gopher.psg.com
BG Bulgaria FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
BH Bahrain B * gopher gopher.psg.com
BI Burundi
BJ Benin
BM Bermuda FI *
BN Brunei Darussalam
BO Bolivia FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
BR Brazil FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
BS Bahamas * upr1.upr.clu.edu
BT Bhutan
BV Bouvet Island
BW Botswana * gopher gopher.psg.com
BY Belarus FI * Ex-USSR gopher gopher.psg.com
BZ Belize * gopher gopher.psg.com
CA Canada FI B * relay.cdnnet.ca
CC Cocos (Keeling) Isl.
CF Central African Rep.
CG Congo * gopher gopher.psg.com
CH Switzerland FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
CI Ivory Coast * gopher gopher.psg.com
CK Cook Islands
CL Chile FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
dcc.uchile.cl
CM Cameroon PFI * in .fr domain gopher gopher.psg.com
CN China FI * ns.cnc.ac.cn
gopher gopher.psg.com
CO Colombia FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
cunixd.cc.columbia.edu
CR Costa Rica FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
CS Czechoslovakia ******** not a top-level domain anymore ********
CU Cuba * gopher gopher.psg.com
CV Cape Verde
CX Christmas Island
CY Cyprus FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
CZ Czech Republic FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
DE Germany FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
gopher gopher.psg.com
DJ Djibouti
DK Denmark FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
DM Dominica * upr1.upr.clu.edu
DO Dominican Republic FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
DZ Algeria FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
EC Ecuador FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
EE Estonia FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
EG Egypt FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
EH Western Sahara
ER Eritrea * gopher gopher.psg.com
ES Spain FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
ET Ethiopia F gopher gopher.psg.com
FI Finland FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
FJ Fiji FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
FK Falkland Isl.(Malvinas)
FM Micronesia
FO Faroe Islands FI * danpost.uni-c.dk
FR France FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
gopher gopher.psg.com
FX France (European Ter.) ???
GA Gabon
GB Great Britain (UK) FI * X.400 & IP ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk
GD Grenada P upr1.upr.clu.edu
GE Georgia FI * Ex-USSR ns.eu.net
GF Guiana (Fr.) * gopher gopher.psg.com
GH Ghana * gopher gopher.psg.com
GI Gibraltar
GL Greenland PFI * gopher gopher.psg.com
GM Gambia F gopher gopher.psg.com
GN Guinea PFI * dial-IP
GP Guadeloupe (Fr.) P gopher gopher.psg.com
GQ Equatorial Guinea
GR Greece FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
GS South Georgia and
South Sandwich Islands
GT Guatemala * ns.uu.net
GU Guam (US) FI * in US domains gopher gopher.psg.com
GW Guinea Bissau
GY Guyana *
HK Hong Kong FI B * hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk
HM Heard & McDonald Isl.
HN Honduras * ns.uu.net
HR Croatia FI * dns.srce.hr
HT Haiti P gopher gopher.psg.com
HU Hungary FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
gopher gopher.psg.com
ID Indonesia FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
ns.uu.net
IE Ireland FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
IL Israel FI B * relay.huji.ac.il
IN India FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
sangam.ncst.ernet.in
IO British Indian O. Terr.
IQ Iraq
IR Iran FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
IS Iceland FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
IT Italy FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
JM Jamaica FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
JO Jordan
JP Japan FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
jp-gate.wide.ad.jp
KE Kenya * gopher gopher.psg.com
KG Kyrgyz Republic Ex-USSR
KH Cambodia *
KI Kiribati
KM Comoros
KN St.Kitts Nevis Anguilla P upr1.upr.clu.edu
KP Korea (North) P
KR Korea (South) FI B * ns.kaist.ac.kr
KW Kuwait FI * No BITNET gopher gopher.psg.com
KY Cayman Islands FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
KZ Kazachstan FI * Ex-USSR
LA Laos
LB Lebanon FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
LC Saint Lucia FI * upr1.upr.clu.edu
LI Liechtenstein FI * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
LK Sri Lanka FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
LR Liberia
LS Lesotho * gopher gopher.psg.com
LT Lithuania FI * Ex-USSR aun.uninett.no
LU Luxembourg FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
LV Latvia FI * Ex-USSR lapsene.mii.lu.lv
LY Libya
MA Morocco PFI * FI late'94/'95 gopher gopher.psg.com
MC Monaco FI *
MD Moldova FI * intermittent
MG Madagascar (Republic of) * gopher gopher.psg.com
MH Marshall Islands
MK Macedonia (former Yug.)FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
ML Mali * gopher gopher.psg.com
MM Myanmar
MN Mongolia * gopher gopher.psg.com
MO Macau FI * hkuxb.hku.hk
MP Northern Mariana Isl.
MQ Martinique (Fr.)
MR Mauritania
MS Montserrat
MT Malta FI *
MU Mauritius * gopher gopher.psg.com
MV Maldives
MW Malawi F
MX Mexico FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
mtecv1.mty.itesm.mx
MY Malaysia FI B * mimos.my
MZ Mozambique FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
NA Namibia * gopher gopher.psg.com
gopher gopher.psg.com
NC New Caledonia (Fr.) * gopher gopher.psg.com
NE Niger * in .fr domain gopher gopher.psg.com
NF Norfolk Island
NG Nigeria F gopher gopher.psg.com
NI Nicaragua FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
NL Netherlands FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
NO Norway FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
NP Nepal FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
NR Nauru
NU Niue
NZ New Zealand FI * truth.waikato.ac.nz
OM Oman *
PA Panama FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
PE Peru FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
PF Polynesia (Fr.) * gopher gopher.psg.com
PG Papua New Guinea * munnari.oz.au
PH Philippines FI * ns.uu.net
PK Pakistan FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
PL Poland FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
gopher gopher.psg.com
PM St. Pierre & Miquelon
PN Pitcairn
PR Puerto Rico (US) FI B * sun386-gauss.pr
PT Portugal FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet gopher.ripe.net
PW Palau
PY Paraguay * ns.uu.net
QA Qatar
RE Reunion (Fr.) FI * In .fr domain inria.inria.fr
RO Romania FI B * roearn.ici.ac.ro
RU Russian Federation FI B * Ex-USSR
RW Rwanda F currently cut gopher gopher.psg.com
SA Saudi Arabia FI B * dial-ip gopher gopher.psg.com
SB Solomon Islands
SC Seychelles * gopher gopher.psg.com
SD Sudan F
SE Sweden FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
SG Singapore FI B * gopher solomon.technet.sg
gopher gopher.psg.com
SH St. Helena
SI Slovenia FI * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
SJ Svalbard & Jan Mayen IsFI * in .no domain
SK Slovakia (Slovak Rep) FI B * gopher gopher.ripe.net
telnet ns.ripe.net
SL Sierra Leone * gopher gopher.psg.com
SM San Marino
SN Senegal PFI * gopher gopher.psg.com
SO Somalia
SR Suriname * upr1.upr.clu.edu
ST St. Tome and Principe
SU Soviet Union FI B * Still used. gopher gopher.psg.com
SV El Salvador gopher gopher.psg.com
SY Syria
SZ Swaziland * gopher gopher.psg.com
TC Turks & Caicos Islands
TD Chad
TF French Southern Terr.
TG Togo * gopher gopher.psg.com
TH Thailand FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
chulkn.chula.ac.th
TJ Tadjikistan Ex-USSR
TK Tokelau
TM Turkmenistan * Ex-USSR in .su domain
TN Tunisia FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
alyssa.rsinet.tn
TO Tonga
TP East Timor
TR Turkey FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr
TT Trinidad & Tobago * gopher gopher.psg.com
TV Tuvalu
TW Taiwan FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
TZ Tanzania F gopher gopher.psg.com
UA Ukraine FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
UG Uganda F gopher gopher.psg.com
UK United Kingdom FI B * ISO 3166 is GB telnet news.janet.ac.uk
gopher news.janet.ac.uk
UK Network Enq. <liaison@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>
gopher gopher.psg.com
UM US Minor outlying Isl.
US United States FI * see note (4) venera.isi.edu
UY Uruguay FI B * gopher gopher.psg.com
UZ Uzbekistan FI * Ex-USSR
VA Vatican City State
VC St.Vincent & Grenadines P upr1.upr.clu.edu
VE Venezuela FI * nisc.jvnc.net
VG Virgin Islands (British)
VI Virgin Islands (US) FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
VN Vietnam * gopher gopher.psg.com
VU Vanuatu * gopher gopher.psg.com
WF Wallis & Futuna Islands
WS Samoa
YE Yemen
YT Mayotte
YU Yugoslavia B * bitnet is cut
ZA South Africa FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
ZM Zambia FI * intermittent gopher gopher.psg.com
ZR Zaire
ZW Zimbabwe FI * gopher gopher.psg.com
See Note [5] for the next top level domains (rs.internic.net):
ARPA Old style Arpanet * alias still works ns.nic.ddn.mil
COM Commercial FI * telnet whois.internic.net
EDU Educational FI B * telnet whois.internic.net
GOV Government FI * telnet whois.internic.net
INT International field FI * used by Nato ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk
MIL US Military FI * ns.nic.ddn.mil
NATO Nato field * soon to be deleted ???
NET Network FI * telnet whois.internic.net
ORG Non-Profit OrganizationFI * telnet whois.internic.net
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DISCLAIMER: while every effort is made to provide accurate information,
this list is not guaranteed to be accurate. This document is in NO WAY
an official document. The information given should not be used as a basis
for routing tables but only as general end-user information. This is a
voluntary effort. I would appreciate greatly if errors/omissions could
be pointed out to me and they would be corrected in the next release.
The information included in this document implies no view whatsoever
regarding questions of sovereignty or the status of any place listed.
Affiliation to Imperial College is given for identification purposes only.
email.2048postmast,
From: twiddle@magic.bc.co.yu (TWIDDLE)
Subject: Molba
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:32:00 -0100
Origin.SUBJ: Molba
Origin.FROM: Predrag Supurovic
Origin.TO : All
PS> posto sam od Vladep dobio prilicno ostar mail u kome je izmedju
PS> ostalog rekao:
PS> "Spomene li mene ili Piksija jos neko od tvojih mamlaza sa SETNet-a
PS> u bilo kojem kontekstu tek ima da bude maskembal na YUInternet-u!"
PS> Nadam se da Vladap nece zbog ovog pominjanja poceti sa najavljenim
PS> aktivnostima. Ovo je ipak neophodno obavestenje.
Ovo je necuveno! MA STA da je VladaP napisao u Mail-u, osnovna
kultura komuniciranja je da to NE CITIRAS u echo konferencijama.
Druga je stvar to sto se iz poruke lepo vidi da su doticni
mamlazi sa SETNet-a oni tvoji "istomisljenici", kao sto je i
rekao VladaP, a ne normalni korisnici SETNet-a, kako si ti to
interpretirao.
Smatram da takvo ponasanje i potpuno besmislena poruka, koja je
cista varnica i pokusaj da se ponovo potpali vatra, ne prilici
coveku koji za sebe tvrdi (ponasa se tako) da je "covek od
komunikacija", visoko kompetentan i bogom dan da polemise sa
ostalima o tome. Zamisli se malo...
Pozdrav,
. .
+ . . | | . . +
. . . --*-- Slobodan Markovic --*-- . . .
| Twiddle | . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . | Twiddle |
--*-- . . . twiddle@magic.bc.co.yu . . . --*--
. | . + . . + . | .
... BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
email.2049postmast,
From: drajov@fon (Dragan Jovicevic)
Subject: Re: internet and virtual
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 07:26:03 GMT
na WWW serveru www.imp.bg.ac.yu (8-16 radnim danom) imas tekstove
o VRML (Virtual Reality Modeling Language) ekstenziji WWW servisa.
Uskoro ce stici i browseri. Pozdrav,
D.J.
email.2050postmast,
From: Ivan.Trbovic@f136.n103.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Ivan Trbovic)
Subject: nemesis@styx.herkules.co.yu
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:55:01
SUBJECT:gde si bre ti???
Nema te nigde!Ponekad vidim neku tvoju poruku itd. ali sta ti je sa bbs-om?
Posalji nesto(ako sam uopste ubo adresu)
COPKILLER
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
* Origin: ─│ SCORPION BBS │─ ■011/699-784, ■22-07, Nazovite! (38:103/136)
email.2051postmast,
From: dcolak@setnet.co.yu (Damir Colak)
Subject: Re: Making Www Pages
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:38:04
MM> ***> Citiram 'Damir Colak' za 'All' <***
MM> DC> Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP
MM> DC> fajlova, tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
MM> Uzgred, nije HTMP nego HTML, ali nema veze :-)
:)) Well, ako vise HTML fajlova stvara HTMP, zasto ih ne bismo tako
zvali? ;))
MM> Nemam uputstvo.
Pa sto se javljas? :))
Sledge DAMMIR!
* Origin: Sledge HAMMER! BBS 011/163-452 22:00-07:00 (38:103/128)
email.2052postmast,
From: ashley@setnet.co.yu (Asli Djuricin)
Subject: Making Www Pages
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:37:23
DC> Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP fajlova,
DC> tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
Ima par programa koji sluze za kreiranje WWW stranice, samo ne mogu
trenutno da se setim kako se zovu :( Bice ti javljeno, ako te
interesuje.
Pozdrav :)
¸> No?! Some people still read mail a packet at a time?!
* ŰmÔ/\/\× 1.3 #04 * ashley@panon.ns.ac.yu
* Origin: MYSTERY BBS * 021 715-913 24h * Novi Sad * SETNet: (38:111/109)
email.2053postmast,
From: spop@setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic)
Subject: Making Www Pages
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:26:00
* Originally from: Damir Colak
* Originally to: All
DC> Moze li me neko uputiti na dokumentaciju o pravljenju HTMP
DC> fajlova, tj. recimo sopstvene WWW stranice?
Pogledaj gopher na Zmaju.
... Ne mrzi samog sebe od ranog jutra - spavaj do podne.
* Origin: SETNet * BBS Politika, Bgd * +381 11 3229148 * 0-24 (38:103/133)
email.2054postmast,
From: Mladen.Adamovic@f135.n135.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Mladen Adamovic)
Subject: Re: <none>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 18:16:19
-+=+- Jovica Milosevic rece : -+=+-
JM> From: Jovica Milosevic
JM> <Jovica.Milosevic@corona.sunrise.hobbiton.CO.YU> Newsgroups:
JM> sada i onim sutra. Rat mreza nikome ne ide u korist, i bas zato
JM> FREEnet ne zeli nikome da konkurise. Nama pravilnik pise praksa i mi
Sto se FREEnet-a tice, moram da kazem da je to jedna fina mrezica :).
To nije jedna mreza sa 100+ poruka dnevno - ali zato sve poruke imaju
svoju vrednost, i kvalitet im je iznadprosecan. FREEnet je fina mreza
za "izmedju ostalog". To jeste, ona stvarno ne konkurise drugima,
a pronalazi svoje mesto u BBS svetu :).
Pozdrav, Mladen Adamovic (adamm@elf.bl.ac.yu).
... Tata, tata, kupi mi TAG!
* Origin: Sveti Sava BBS Prijedor 079 11 629 SETNet: (38:135/135)
email.2055spantic,
-> #2033, postmast> From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
> RFC-822. Ima ga na FFS, i ako je to problem, licno cu ga mailujem prvome
FFS ne radi, ali ga ima na ETF-u.
ftp://ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu/rfc/
email.2056supers,
-> #2005, superhik>> 'nizozemstvo' ;) nešto kao
>> %ne_znam_šta%username@adresa
>> je l' može neko da ponovi...?
in%"username@adresa"
Ali, za ovo će raditi samo sa nalogom na UBBG-u, sa pravom slanja
maila u inostranstvo. Na galebu, osmehu i kompaniji si ograničen
na područje YU.
email.2057supers,
-> #2006, zorpet>> Mozda sam vec PPPUUNNOO zakasnio sa pitanjem...
>> Kako se salju poruke sa SEZAMA na druge NOD-ove.
Hm... da li ti je jasno šta je to nod?
Sezam ima 15 nodova, sa who vidiš ko je na njima, a tebi verovatno
treba slanje poruka na druge hostove, koji su vezani u YUinternet.
Prvo otkucaš uucp apply. Sezam ti ispiše uslove za slanje pošte,
ti ih prihvatiš, a kada te pita za prvu adresu na koju bi da šalješ
poruku, ti je unesi, pera@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu na primer.
Sačekaš 2-3 dana dok ti Sezam ne odobri slanje pošte. Kada dobiješ
odobrenje, možeš nesmetano da šelješ poruke i ovo gore više ne moraš
da ponavljaš :)
Poštu šalješ komandom uucp send <adresa> , gde je adresa opet
ono pera@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu, ili kome već šalješ. Zatim još
uneseš subject, a potom počinje unos poruke. Kad poruku otkucaš
ili uploaduješ, pritisneš CTRL-Z i to je to :)
email.2058superhik,
-> #1983, postmast=:> From: broker@setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
=:> Subject: CUT.RELIGION
=:> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:06:50
Konačno... evo počeli ste da šaljete i stare poruke!?
Ili je neki bug Sezama?!
email.2059banga,
-> #2056, supers> maila u inostranstvo. Na galebu, osmehu i kompaniji si
> ogranicen
Imam obican nalog na osmehu i normalno se dopisujem sa instranstvom :)
email.2060superhik,
-> #2056, supers=:> in%"username@adresa"
=:>
=:> Ali, za ovo će raditi samo sa nalogom na UBBG-u, sa pravom
=:> slanja maila u inostranstvo. Na galebu, osmehu i kompaniji si
=:> ograničen na područje YU. """"""
žekaj bRe, pa ja sam sa osmeha slao/primao mailove iz USA!
Ali su problemi nastali kada sam probao da pošaljem mail
u Slovačku!
email.2061supers,
-> #2059, banga>>> maila u inostranstvo. Na galebu, osmehu i kompaniji si
>>> ogranicen
>>
>> Imam obican nalog na osmehu i normalno se dopisujem sa instranstvom
>> :)
Aaaa, čovek stalno nešto novo nauci... Trebalo je ovo ranije da znam...
email.2062banga,
Hocu da sa svog DOS racunara na OSMEHu koristim joe editor. Sada mi je u
Telemate postavljen ANSI terminal kao i u .bash_profile na OSMEHU.
Help kod joe mi izlazi nekako ispomeran pa je tesko citljiv.
Koju emulaciju terminala da koristim. U TN imam jos i VT52 i VT102
email.2063postmast,
From: todorp@hobbiton.CO.YU (Predrag Todorovic)
Subject: Re: email
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:36:39 GMT
> expire -dxxx, gde je xxx broj koji pokazuje koliko-dana-stare poruke se
> brisu. Posto ne znam koliko si dana podesio da se cuvaju poruke iz
> odredjenih konf., stavi -d100 ili neku jos vecu vrednost.
Jos je bolje "expire -r" jer to brise procitane poruke. Inace sve poruke su
za brisanje a one koje zelis da ostavis se snimaju u foldere.
Pozdrav od Pedje!
ps. Ipak je najjaca kombinacija thor+go2hor. :)
email.2064postmast,
From: SETN@f101.n101.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (SETN)
Subject: Statistics
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 07:59:00
Maintaned by CONFERENCE STATISTICS SHELL - (c)1995 by Predrag Supurovic
=======================================================================
Conference NET.EMAIL maintained on 31.08.95. for 28 days backward.
QRATIO Mail Statistics V1.9 by Act Of Impulse.
----------------------------------------------
Total messages found in this area : 875
Number of messages covered in report: 186
Processed period from: 31-8-1995 to 26-9-1995
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Blacklist-Top 5 of the Quoters.
Nr Total Quoted Quote
Name Address Msg Lines Lines: Ratio:
---- ------- --- ----- ------ ------
1. Robert Oswald............ 38:111/119 1 12 9 75.00%
2. Igor Stanojevic.......... 38:111/109 1 6 4 66.67%
3. Asli Djuricin............ 38:111/109 6 56 36 64.29%
4. Slobodan Popovic......... 38:103/133 3 28 16 57.14%
5. Milan Kurtovic........... 38:135/135 1 9 5 55.56%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 5 of the writers.
Total Average Quote
Name Msgs: Pct. Byte/Msg Ratio:
---- ----- ----- -------- ------
1. "Aleksandar Nikolajevic" 12 6.5% 624 21.74%
2. vladap 12 6.5% 4529 1.30%
3. Zoran Tomic 9 4.8% 879 35.16%
4. Damir Colak 8 4.3% 348 46.30%
5. Subotic Branislav 7 3.8% 1014 24.32%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 5 of the receivers.
Total
Name Msgs: Pct.
---- ----- -----
1. All 143 76.9%
2. Nik Malenovic 4 2.2%
3. Damir Colak 4 2.2%
4. Asli Djuricin 3 1.6%
5. Vinko Velinov 3 1.6%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 5 of the subjects.
Subject Nr.
------- ---
1. email....................................................... 79
2. CUT.RELIGION................................................ 15
3. Preneto sa FidoNet-a........................................ 7
4. bem vas u standard (was: Re: sezam zaglavlja)............... 6
5. administracija?............................................. 5
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Average posting frequency per week:
Day Msgs Pct. Graph
Sunday 31 16.7% **********************************************
Monday 21 11.3% *******************************
Tuesday 33 17.7% *************************************************
Wednesday 18 9.7% **************************
Thursday 26 14.0% **************************************
Friday 23 12.4% **********************************
Saturday 34 18.3% **************************************************
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Average posting frequency per day:
Interval Msgs Pct. Graph
-------- ---- ----- -----
0:00- 1:59 17 9.1% ***********************************
2:00- 3:59 13 7.0% **************************
4:00- 5:59 7 3.8% **************
6:00- 7:59 4 2.2% ********
8:00- 9:59 22 11.8% *********************************************
10:00-11:59 18 9.7% *************************************
12:00-13:59 14 7.5% ****************************
14:00-15:59 20 10.8% *****************************************
16:00-17:59 26 14.0% *****************************************************
18:00-19:59 10 5.4% ********************
20:00-21:59 17 9.1% ***********************************
22:00-23:59 18 9.7% *************************************
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
email.2065postmast,
From: zdule@herkules.co.yu (Dusan Mihajlovic)
Subject: Re: nemesis@styx.herkules.co.yu
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 23:39:52 GMT
Ivan.Trbovic@f136.n103.z38.setnet.setnet.co.yu (Ivan Trbovic) writes:
> SUBJECT:gde si bre ti???
>
> Nema te nigde!Ponekad vidim neku tvoju poruku itd. ali sta ti je sa bbs-om
> Posalji nesto(ako sam uopste ubo adresu)
Nemesis je prodao svoj monitor zato sto su mu trebale pare a sada mu trebaju
i monitor i pare. Iz tog razloga njegov bbs trenutno ne radi.
ZDule...#! rnews 684
email.2066postmast,
From: Jovica Milosevic <Jovica.Milosevic@corona.sunrise.hobbiton.CO.YU>
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 01:30:00 +0100
Subject: Neka se ne ponovi
Za osnovu ovoga sto cu napisati, posluzili su mi sledeci citati:
PS> posto sam od Vladep dobio prilicno ostar mail u kome je izmedju
PS> ostalog rekao:
PS> "Spomene li mene ili Piksija jos neko od tvojih mamlaza sa SETNet-a
PS> u bilo kojem kontekstu tek ima da bude maskembal na YUInternet-u!"
PS> Nadam se da Vladap nece zbog ovog pominjanja poceti sa najavljenim
PS> aktivnostima. Ovo je ipak neophodno obavestenje.
> Ovo je necuveno! MA STA da je VladaP napisao u Mail-u, osnovna
> kultura komuniciranja je da to NE CITIRAS u echo konferencijama.
Uza svu uzdrzanost da se nekome ne zamerim, ne mogu da u ovom
slucaju ostanem ravnodusan. Lider jedne mreze za ciju se etiku i
ugled bori krsi osnovne principe etike u komunikaciji. Nikako ne
mogu da prihvatim ni njegovo obrazlozernje. Cak i zakonodavac stiti
privatnost kad je posta u pitanju, pa tako kaze da je povreda
tajnosti pisma KRIVICNO DELO za koje se propisuje novcana kazna ili
kazna zatvora do jedne godine. Pod povredom tajnosti pisma, smatra
se i javno citiranje sadrzaja toga pisma. Nisam siguran da li i
elektronska posta pada pod taj paragraf, i verujem da bi neki
vestiji advokat to uspeo da izvrda, ali sa naseg aspekta, mozemo bez
grize savesti reci da je nacinio moralno sramno delo, na ocigled
nekoliko mreza, i potpuno je razumljivo gnusanje koje mnogi od nas
iskazuju. Kao broker jedne mreze duzan je da stiti nacela privatne
poste i da prvi reaguje ako se ono krsi. Ovako ne znam sta da
kazem. Nema tog cilja koji bi opavdao sredstva kao sto su ova,
a obzirom na sadrzaj koji je prezentovan, za cilj bi jedino moglo
da se shvati kao novi inicijal za svadju medju mrezama. Ako ovo
postane praksa, pitanje je da li ce korisnici imati u nas poverenja.
Uostalom, tu se vidi dokle svadja medju mrezama moze da dovede.
Iskreno se nadam da broker SetNet-a vise nece ponavljati ovakve
greske.
email.2067aleck,
-> #2062, banga>&> Koju emulaciju terminala da koristim. U TN imam jos i VT52 i VT102
VT100 na Osmehu i VT102 u kom. programu.
Pozdrav,|<*>| Aleck |<*>|
email.2068babbage,
-> #2063, postmast
>=>> ps. Ipak je najjaca kombinacija thor+go2hor. :)
Je li? Ajde objasni pobliže kako se to koristi, muka mi je
od soup-yarn kombinacije...
Babbage