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07 Jul 1997 - 12 May 1998

Messages - auto-moto

auto-moto.522 junior, -> #517, vector
> Gde bas Barrichella stavi u tu gomilu? ;) Mislim da je on > trenutno jedan od najboljih F1 vozaca. :) Izvinjenje Baričelu. Dotičnog i ja prilično cenim, što je mogao da oseti i moj novčanik, znatno oslabljen konstantim ulaganjem u njega. :) Al' samo kad se setim za koji tim vozi, prosto gre'ota da ga ne spomenem. Hteo sam i Hilla da stavim :>, al' rekoh, da ne provociram. :) Nego, biće zezanja...:))
auto-moto.523 junior, -> #513, obren
> O "borbi" za 2. poziciju nema ni govora, jer da se Irvajn borio > za neku poziciju, ne bi prepustio prvo mesto, nemoj se praviti > naivan :) Koji ti je? Prepustio je prvo mesto svom partneru, koji se bori za titulu svetskog prvaka. Da je on vozio za prvo mesto, njegov kolega bi automatski ispao iz te borbe. Bi li ti to priuštio svom suvozaču? Naravno, da ne bi. Borba za drugu poziciju je svakako postojala, pošto je u tom trenutku mnogo značila u borbi konstruktora. A uostalom, da je Irvine-u bio jedini zadatak da štiti leđa Šumaheru, on je mogao i da odustane kasnije, a da ne spominjem neki slučajni sudar sa Vilnevom :) Čovek je odvezao svoju regularnu trku, i sam si priznao kako je zajeban kad ga neko prestiže, ne vidim u čemu se onda razlikuje ova trka od ostalih? On nije ljut zbog "naredbe" Ferrarija, čak se ispostavlja da to i nije bila naredba Ferrarija, već je bio predviđen, kao mogućnost, ovakav zaplet. Verujem da su oni imali i zaplete koji su kao rešenje predviđali sudar Irvine i Vilneva, ali na svu sreću, dotle nije došlo. > Čuj, poznato je da se još nije rodio neko ko će da obiđe > Irvajna bez krvi ako ovaj to neće da mu dozvoli. Ne zovu ga > džabe po Internetu Edie "Irvinator". Eto, slažemo se. :) Na stranu to što ja mislim da ga Vilnev ni ne ume da obiđe. Što reče miko, kad je Vilnev obišao Hilla po travi (u Hungaroringu): "pa on ni ne ume drugačije". Gde taj mali, napaljeni da bude šampion? On je, bre gori vozač od Hilla (što je, prilično teško izvesti). Hill je sa istim tim bolidom poharao. On jedva izvlači i ovu bedu, koju izvlači. Start mu je očajan, ne ume da prestiže, ne ume da vozi po kiši. Jedino što ume, jeste, isto što i Hill - da dobro vozi kada je na čelu, i ne dopusti da ga neko ugrozi. Samo što je to Hill radio sa nekom dozom elegancije, a kod ovog izgleda da mu je svaku trku Bog podario i rekao "kako da mu ne dam, vidi kako je jadan..." :) > Što se tiče iste situacije a da se u njoj nađe Vilnev, mislim > da ovaj nikad neće služiti u timu da drugom čuva dupe u > situaciji kad može i sam da pobedi :) Mislim da grešiš. Uostalom, ovo uopšte nije presedan u formuli, dešavalo se to vrlo često, čak i tvom ljubimcu. Pratiš njegovu karijeru, znaš dobro da je on propuštao mnoge, i padao u zasenak mnogima, sve do smrti Sene. > Upravo tako, samo što je za taj potez imao potpuno legitimno > pravo :) Ali nije mu još uvek ni blizu vratio za onaj pederski > potez od pre tri godine! No biće još prilike, ima vremena O;) Ako je to jedini način na koji može da mu vrati, neka. Ima pravo. Samo, ne možemo onda govoriti o "džentlmenu", slažeš se? A za ovaj potez, nadam se bar nekoj uslovnoj kazni, ako već ne bude diskvalifikacije. > P.S. Ruka mu se pozlatila za ono podjebavanje Šumahera O;) :) Kod tebe, definitivno, najviše volim objektivnost. Uvek, i u svakom pogledu. ;>
auto-moto.524 darth.vader, -> #511, vector
>> _samo_ razliku u klasi bolida/timova: TWR Arrows nije Ferrari. ;) Voleo >> bih da vidim Schumachera u nekonkurentom bolidu ili u formuli CART, Pa zar ga nisi gledao prosle sezone u nekonkurentnom bolidu ? Prosipanje delova po pisti, explozije motora, odustajanja u prvim krugovima, pa i u krugovima za zagrevanje... See ya, Darth :)
auto-moto.525 darth.vader, -> #513, obren
>> O "borbi" za 2. poziciju nema ni govora, jer da se Irvajn borio za >> neku poziciju, ne bi prepustio prvo mesto, nemoj se praviti naivan :) Irvajn ima ugovor kao striktno drugi vozac u ekipi, i u ovakvim trenutcima, morao je da ga propusti. See ya, Darth :)
auto-moto.526 nesha, -> #510, junior
>Treca stvar, Irvine nije ometao Vilneva. Pazi, bilo je ocigledno da je >Vilnev brzi, i da hoce da ga prestigne, ali po kom pravilu je Irvine >duzan da ga propusti?? Alo bre, oni ne samo da se bore na toj trci za >poziciju br. 2, vec su i direktni konkurenti za titulu konstruktora? Op op.. Vilnev nije bio brzi, nego je ovaj _namerno_ usporavao. Bash me zanima shta bi bilo da je Vilnev pokusho da pretekne Irvina.. Mogu da se kladim da bi ga ovaj vrli mladic sluchajno zakachio i izbacio sa staze u fer borbi za poziciju.. Mozda isto kao shto je izbacio Alezija na VN Austrije, kada ga je ovaj preticao za ceo krug, to chisto apropo onoga za Hila..
auto-moto.527 vector, -> #524, darth.vader
> Pa zar ga nisi gledao prosle sezone u nekonkurentnom bolidu ? > Prosipanje delova po pisti, explozije motora, odustajanja u prvim > krugovima, pa i u krugovima za zagrevanje... Zar je jedan Ferrari nekonkurentan, pobogu? ;) Kad kazem nekonkurentan mislim na tim koji nije u top 5, bre. :) Schumacher NIKADA nije vozio za NEKONKURENTAN tim.
auto-moto.528 miko, -> #526, nesha
> Op op.. Vilnev nije bio brzi, nego je ovaj _namerno_ > usporavao. Bash me zanima shta bi bilo da je Vilnev > pokusho da pretekne Irvina.. Mogu da se Pa, dovoljno je navesti da je krug u kojem je Irvine propustio Schumacher-a, ovaj prvi odvezao za 1'46", a drugi za 1'40"... Kada ga je kolega prosao, mali je opet ubrzao, ali tek toliko da bi zavlacio Villeneuve-a po stazi ... Ali, nije to Bog zna sta ... takve stvari su se desavale (meni omiljena je sezona - 1993, kada je Hill propustao Prost-a ;) i desavace se i ubuduce jer je normalno da zaposleni mora u svakom slucaju da slusa svog poslodavca, tako da mi nije jasno zasto se ovolika uzbuna digla povodom protekle trke ... Meni je samo zao Irvine-a kojem je ovo bila ekskluzivna sansa da pobedi, jer ce na sledecu morati da ceka dosta dugo, da ne kazem vecnost.
auto-moto.529 pecanac,
Još dve Suzuke. Šumaher (?) slavi pobedu. (gume na bolidu su se istopile ;) (600x412x16m) pic1a.jpg
auto-moto.530 pecanac,
Šumaher, a u repu mu je Frencen na 's' krivini pre ciljne ravnine. (600x356x16m) pic2a.jpg
auto-moto.532 obren, -> #523, junior
> A uostalom, da je Irvine-u bio jedini zadatak da štiti leđa Šumaheru, > on je mogao i da odustane kasnije, a da ne spominjem neki slučajni > sudar sa Vilnevom :) Bogami, da je Irvajn "slučajno" izbacio Vilneva, budi siguran da bi Ferari bio kažnjen a i _Šumaheru_ bilo oduzeto osvojenih 10 poena. Mnogo pre bi FIA tolerisala međusobne ekscese direktnih konkurenata, nego takvo angažovanje "plaćenih ubica" na stazi. Kada se ne bi takvi slučajevi odmah i oštro sankcionisali, Formula 1 bi postala kao trka dvokolica iz filma "Ben Hur". > Čovek je odvezao svoju regularnu trku, i sam si priznao kako je zajeban > kad ga neko prestiže, ne vidim u čemu se onda razlikuje ova trka od > ostalih? Pazi, rekao sam i u prethodnoj poruci da ne mislim da u onakvoj taktici ima išta neregularno (ako prođe bez ekscesa na stazi), ali teško ćeš me ubediti da Irvajn tamo nije blokirao Vilneva, već da se trkao sa njim. Pored toga, ne volim takvo odlučivanje pobednika, naročito ako se uzme u obzir da ove godine _ni jednom_ nismo mogli da vidimo direktan duel Šumahera i Vilneva za prvo mesto, niti su ikad stali zajedno na pobedničko postolje (uvek je jedan falio). > Gde taj mali, napaljeni da bude šampion? On je, bre gori vozač od Hilla > (što je, prilično teško izvesti). Naravno da je gori od Hilla, ali kakve to veze ima sa pričom? :) Mnogo si bre ogrezao u mržnji, skoro kao ja prema Šumaheru O;) > Hill je sa istim tim bolidom poharao. On jedva izvlači i ovu bedu, koju > izvlači. Start mu je očajan, ne ume da prestiže, ne ume da vozi po kiši. > Jedino što ume, jeste, isto što i Hill - da dobro vozi kada je na čelu, > i ne dopusti da ga neko ugrozi. Činjenica je da se Vilnev ne može meriti sa Hilom (pa ni sa Šumaherom) po vozačkim kvalitetima, iako je odličan vozač (ma šta ti mislio ;). Ipak, šampionat Formule 1 je takmičenje u kome pored vozača odlučuje i bolid, jer u suprotnom mogu svake godine da organizuju glasanje ;) pa da vozači među sobom izaberu "harambašu" ;) i proglase ga za šampiona. Upravo je i draž da ne pobeđuje uvek najbolji, mada je najpoštenije da se to poklopi sa realnim kvalitetima, kao što je bio slučaj sa Sennom, ili prošle godine sa Hillom :) > Mislim da grešiš. Uostalom, ovo uopšte nije presedan u formuli, dešavalo > se to vrlo često, čak i tvom ljubimcu. Pratiš njegovu karijeru, znaš dobro > da je on propuštao mnoge, i padao u zasenak mnogima, sve do smrti Sene. Nisam ni tvrdio da je presedan, taman posla. Samo kažem da ovavke poteze ne volim (ma ko da je u pitanju), niti bih voleo da se Formula 1 svede na obilaženje u boksu i sjebavanje konkurenata pomoću drugog vozača u timu. Ti si me samo povukao za jezik tvrdnjom da je Irvajn "najveća legenda" zbog onog poteza na stazi, a istovremeno si Hilla proglasio za "pravog smrada" zbog malo prcanja Šumahera iz opravdane "osvete". > Ako je to jedini način na koji može da mu vrati, neka. Ima pravo. Samo, > ne možemo onda govoriti o "džentlmenu", slažeš se? A za ovaj potez, > nadam se bar nekoj uslovnoj kazni, ako već ne bude diskvalifikacije. Za to bi moralo da se steknu uslovi da je duže vreme ignorisao plavu zastavu (koju ja nisam video ni da su mu je pokazivali), ali ovako je _samo jedan krug_ bilo "odi dedi", i onda ga je Hill džentlmenski ;) propustio. Uostalom, baš je bilo simpatično gledati kako se Šumaher nervira, nije valjda da nisi uživao? ;) > > P.S. Ruka mu se pozlatila za ono podjebavanje Šumahera O;) > > Kod tebe, definitivno, najviše volim objektivnost. Uvek, i u svakom > pogledu. ;> Pa teško je biti objektivan kad raspravljaš o bilo kom sportu a navijaš za nekoga, eto recimo pogledaj iz neutralnog ugla svoje poruke :)
auto-moto.533 vector, -> #528, miko
> svog poslodavca, tako da mi nije jasno zasto se ovolika > uzbuna digla povodom protekle trke ... Mislim da to nije nacin za dobijanje sampionata. Svi smo ocekivali direktnu borbu: Schumacher VS Villeneuve, a sta smo dobili? :)
auto-moto.534 vector, -> #457, vector
> Nigel to Return? > If Nigel Mansell comes roaring out of retirement in 1998, Jim McGee would > be the man responsible. Da li se zna nesto vise o ovome? > McGee is prepared to book Portland International Raceway "and a short > oval as well" in order for the Englishman to satisfy his appetite. Btw, zna se ko je prosle godine vozio odlicno na slikovima po kisi, dok su tamo neki likovi poput Al Unsera ;) pokusavali da ga sustignu na kisnim gumama. :) A da, zaboravih... Portland je ipak "driver's track" tako da tu nije nista ni cudno. ;)
auto-moto.535 junior, -> #532, obren
> se uzme u obzir da ove godine _ni jednom_ nismo mogli da vidimo > direktan duel Šumahera i Vilneva za prvo mesto, niti su ikad > stali zajedno na pobedničko postolje (uvek je jedan falio). Da, stvarno, to nisam primetio (do sad). Međutim, to može da se opravda samo velikom razlikom u klasi (kako vozača, tako i bolida). Mislim, da će Frenca ;), sledeće godine mnogo više doprineti Vilijamsu. Pa njega su valjda i kupili zato što može da prestigne Šumahera, zar ne? > Upravo je i draž da ne pobeđuje uvek najbolji, mada je > najpoštenije da se to poklopi sa realnim kvalitetima, kao što > je bio slučaj sa Sennom, ili prošle godine sa Hillom :) :)) Dobro Hill jeste zaslužio titulu, ali samo zbog truda. Recimo, iz istog razloga, dao bih i po jednu titulu Bergeru i Aleziju. :) Mada, Hill stvarno prošle godine nije imao konkurenciju (neko bi rekao, da nije osvojio prošle godine - kad bi), i znalo se otpočetka u čijim je rukama titula. Ni izbliza onim uslovima u kojima su Senna, Prost i Šumaher osvajali titule. Uostalom, kad se već pozivaš na Sennu, setićeš se da je i on bio spreman na razne ekscese, mada, fakat, on je bio i kažnjen za to. :) Nemoj mi reći da nisi sto puta, kad god si gledao neki sport i navijao za neku ekipu, a protivnički igrač ili vozač ide u napad, nisi uzviknuo "Udri stoku!"? :) To je u ljudskoj naravi. Naravno, da nije lepo, ali je sastavni deo, kako života, tako i sporta. Nije lepo ni kad odbrambeni igrač saseče protivničku kontru. On dobije crveni, ali bolje igrač manje 2 minuta pre kraja, nego gol manje 2 minuta pre kraja. Zar ne? Ok, nije isti rezon, ali to ovde nije ni bio slučaj. Nije bilo sudaranja ni izbacivanja. Bilo je namernog usporavanja protivničkih vozača od strane dvojice. Jedan je imao svo pravo po propisima, a drugi je imao pravo da se osveti. E, ako se tu slažemo, nema o čemu da se prepiremo. :) > Ti si me samo povukao za jezik tvrdnjom da je Irvajn "najveća > legenda" zbog onog poteza na stazi, a istovremeno si Hilla Ne, ne, ne. Nisam ja Irvine-a pohvalio zbog zadržavanja Vilneva, već zbog propuštanja Šumahera. Jer očigledno više nije najsebičniji vozač u formuli, a taj je epitet ranije mogao da mu se prilepi. Recimo, da si me ranije pitao od kog vozača bih najmanje očekivao ovakav postupak, u trenu bih ti odgovorio - Irvine :) Čak osećam da je dobio i pusicu od Šumahera kad se trka završila. (da sam dodam zlobni komentar - 'za ovaj potez bi mogao i da mu se da':>) > Pa teško je biti objektivan kad raspravljaš o bilo kom sportu a > navijaš za nekoga, eto recimo pogledaj iz neutralnog ugla svoje > poruke :) Fakat, ali, ne znam da li si shvatio - 2 najbolja vozača u zadnjih 10 godina su bili 'spremni na sve' da bi si obezbedili pobedu. Najjači opstaju, right? :) Takvi ljudi trebaju sportu, da se stvori rivalstvo, da se uzburka žuč, naraste adrenalin, da se navijači prime. Kad bi ljudi, ako su sporiji, mahali protivniku koji ih prestižu, teško da bi iko pratio taj sport, jer bi se onda sve svodilo na jačinu i izdržljivost motora. Ono što je Senna radio u Mclarenu, i što je Šumi radio prošle godine, pa i ove godine sa Ferrarijem je ravno nemogućem. I to isključivo iz jednog razloga - neverovatna želja za pobedom. Nemoj mi reći da nećeš otići da gledaš sledeću trku sa društvom, pod svaku cenu? A to će učiniti svi ljudi koji su iole neki fanovi formule. Cilj je postignut - ljudi su se primili, ponovo imamo neku borbu, neki rivalitet, neizvesnost do samog kraja. A ja nemam ništa protiv toga. ;)
auto-moto.536 vector, -> #535, junior
> osvojio prosle godine - kad bi), i znalo se otpocetka u cijim je rukama > titula. Ni izbliza onim uslovima u kojima su Senna, Prost i Sumaher > osvajali titule. Mislim da Schumacher ne spada u istu klasu vozaca kao i Senna. :) > formuli, a taj je epitet ranije mogao da mu se prilepi. Recimo, da si me > ranije pitao od kog vozaca bih najmanje ocekivao ovakav postupak, u trenu > bih ti odgovorio - Irvine :) Cek, od Irvajna se taj postupak ranije ni u snovima nije mogao ocekivati zbog toga sto je ceo tim podredjen Schumacheru a ne Irvajnu. Kako ide ono: Schumacher uzima njegove setupe, a ovaj ne Schumacherove? Schumacher ne zeli konkurenciju u timu? ;) ...sto znaci da Irvine ranije nikad nije bio u situaciji da uradi tako nesto. > Ono sto je Senna radio u Mclarenu, i sto je Sumi radio prosle godine, > pa i ove godine sa Ferrarijem je ravno nemogucem. I to iskljucivo iz > jednog razloga - neverovatna zelja za pobedom. Mislim da ovde gresis. Ono sto je Senna radio u Mclarenu je bilo ravno nemogucem. Tada je Williams imao veliku prednost u odnosu na ostale timove - sada to vise nije slucaj. Timovi su prilicno izjednaceni ove godine (Williams ima prednost, medjutim, ne toliku koliku je imao ranije). Da je po tvome, mogao bih da kazem i da je David Coulhard dva puta uradio nesto nemoguce. :) Odakle vam ideja da je bolid Ferrarija neuporedivo slabiji od Williamsa? Btw, kada sam pre nekoliko nedelja citao poruke iz newsgrupa, primetio sam jedno zanimljivo pitanje: zasto odjednom Schumacher ovako vozi po kisi? Zasto u Benettonu nikada nije tako _ubedljivo_ vozio u kisnim uslovima? Hej, Alezi se smatra jednim od najboljih vozaca po kisi, zar ne? Da, ali zasto sada, dok vozi za Benetton, ne opravdava taj naziv - jednostavno, vozi, blago receno, potpuno prosecno? Naziv jednog od najboljih po kisi stekao je dok je vozio u Ferrariju. U cemu je stos? Mozda je stos u Ferrariju? Hej, Schumacher je na trci u Brazilu prosle godine vozio prosecno (u jednom trenutku mu se i HHF priblizio)... mozda je tek kasnije upoznao velike mogucnosti bolida koji vozi u takvim uslovima? ;)
auto-moto.537 darth.vader, -> #527, vector
>> Zar je jedan Ferrari nekonkurentan, pobogu? ;) Kad kazem nekonkurentan >> mislim na tim koji nije u top 5, bre. :) Schumacher NIKADA nije vozio za >> NEKONKURENTAN tim. Onda je bio bukvalno NEKONKURENTAN... Ako ne cele sezone, a onda bar u tim trkama... See ya, Darth :)
auto-moto.538 darth.vader, -> #533, vector
>> Mislim da to nije nacin za dobijanje sampionata. Svi smo ocekivali >> direktnu borbu: Schumacher VS Villeneuve, a sta smo dobili? :) To sto si ti ocekivao, to je druga stvar... Oni (Ferrari) ce da se bore svim silama da Sumi osvoji titulu, i ne interesuje ih zanimljivost trke, ili zanimljivost duela, vec pare koje ce da dobiju... Nije Formula 1 sto je nekad bila... See ya, Darth :)
auto-moto.539 nigy, -> #538, darth.vader
>Oni (Ferrari) ce da se bore svim silama da Sumi osvoji titulu, i >ne interesuje ih zanimljivost trke, ili zanimljivost duela, vec >pare koje ce da dobiju... > >Nije Formula 1 sto je nekad bila... Ma jeli? ;) Bas divno sto je u F1 samo Ferrari-jev tim u ovom fazonu (inace tim koji ima ultimatum osvajanja titule ili mu sledi gasenje) dok ostali timovi voze samo za publiku i slavu. ;)))))
auto-moto.540 nesha, -> #536, vector
>Mozda je stos u Ferrariju? Definitivno.. Ako se neko seca VN Evrope od pre par godina, kad je Alezi utekao Schumacheru nekih 45 sekundi po kishi, a posle ga ovaj stigao po suvom, bice mu ochigledno da je samo stvar u Ferariju. Mada, kad chovek krene tako u istoriju, pa se seti VN Francuske od pre jedno 5-6 godina, kad je Mensel (dobar vozach) u Vilijamsu (ubedljivo najbolji tim tog vremena) po najgoroj kishurini vozio krugove dve sekunde brze od ostalih (Sena je ispao u prvom krugu ;) ), i onda se Dzon Votson uhvati za glavu i skonta da Alezi vozi iste krugove kao i Mensel, samo sa slick gumama.. Jeste, Ferari je dobar po kishi ( a i Alezi je brzi po kishi od shvabe.. :)) ). >> Ono sto je Senna radio u Mclarenu, i sto je Sumi radio prosle godine, >> pa i ove godine sa Ferrarijem je ravno nemogucem. I to iskljucivo iz >> jednog razloga - neverovatna zelja za pobedom. > > Mislim da ovde gresis. Ono sto je Senna radio u Mclarenu je bilo ravno >nemogucem. Prvo.. Kad je Seni titula visila o koncu na VN Japana, 1991, nije ubacio Bergera izmedju sebe i Mensela, vec se sam trkao sa njim, da ne kazem da je na kraju te trke zakochio i pustio Bergera da pobedi. Nekako mi je teshko da zamislim Shumahera kako pushta Irvina.. A bash me zanima koja je Shumaherova pobeda izuzetna, neka chovek da primer.
auto-moto.541 nigy, -> #540, nesha
>Mensel (dobar vozach) u Vilijamsu (ubedljivo najbolji tim tog vremena) po >najgoroj kishurini vozio krugove dve sekunde brze od ostalih (Sena je ispao u >prvom krugu ;) ), i onda se Dzon Votson uhvati za glavu i skonta da Alezi >vozi iste krugove kao i Mensel, samo sa slick gumama.. Jeste, Ferari je dobar >po kishi ( a i Alezi je brzi po kishi od shvabe.. :)) ). Da, pa je zbog odlaska ostalih u box po kisne pneumatike izbio na drugu poziciju. Kamera ga je zumirala dobrih nekoliko krugova. Onda dolazi jedna blaga sikana, Alesi izlece na travu, okrece se za 360° i nastavlja. :) Tada ipak odlazi u box i kisa par krugova posle prestaje... Alesi sigurno ne vozi po kisi kao Senna, ali vozi majstorski. :)
auto-moto.542 vpoznanovic, -> #505, senna
>> Jes bogumi.. Zvuchi neodmerena, pogotovo kad se uzme u obzir da je >> dotichni gospodin vozio f3000 u japanu, pa zato poznaje ovu stazu, ne bih >> rekao da se neshto posebno pokazao u bilo kojoj drugoj trci ove sezone.. Vozio je i naš budući šampion u japanskoj Formuli 3 (za tvoju informaciju, tamo se Suzuka obilazi 5 puta u toku jedne sezone), i čak bio drugi u šampionatu, pa mu to opet nije bilo dovoljno da ostvari plasman bolji od petog mjesta (nekoliko sekundi izgubljenih u boksu nije nikakvo opravdanje). Pravi razlog Eddievog dobrog nastupa prije svega leži u većoj brizi njegove ekipe, a onda vjerovatno i u nekim tehničkim pojedinostima koje su do sada bile rezervisane samo za bolid skupljeg člana tima, sve u cilju pružanja pomoći istom, ne bi li nakon toliko godina vratio titulu u Maranello.
auto-moto.543 darth.vader, -> #539, nigy
>> Bas divno sto je u F1 samo Ferrari-jev tim u ovom fazonu (inace tim >> koji ima ultimatum osvajanja titule ili mu sledi gasenje) dok ostali >> timovi voze samo za publiku i slavu. ;))))) Aaaa, pa nisam ja rekao da je to samo do Ferrarija, ali su i oni u pitanju, posebno u ovom trenutku... See ya, Darth :)
auto-moto.544 nesha, -> #541, nigy
>Kamera ga je zumirala dobrih nekoliko krugova. Onda dolazi > jedna blaga sikana, Alesi izlece na travu, okrece se za 360° i >nastavlja. :) Majstor je izleteo na najbrzoj krivini (ona dupla desna, pred onaj mega pravac, ne razumem se dobro u Magny Cours, pa ne znam kako se koja krivina zove..) pri jedno dvesta i kusur.. Samo mi je zao shto sam izbrisao snimak te trke.
auto-moto.545 nigy, -> #544, nesha
> Samo mi je zao shto sam izbrisao snimak te trke. Ja mislim da mi je to jos uvek negde zivo. :)
auto-moto.546 miko, -> #533, vector
> Mislim da to nije nacin za dobijanje sampionata. Svi smo ocekivali direktnu > borbu: Schumacher VS Villeneuve, a sta smo dobili? :) Pa, mislim da se istorija ponavlja ... u proteklih 15 godina ja se ne secam da je neko dobio titulu, u direktnom duelu, na posten nacin. Mozda je najzanimljivije bilo kada je Mansell izgubio istu jer mu je otpao tocak na izlasku iz boksa, mislim '88 ili '89 ... cak je i tu bilo spekulacija ... Sustina je u tome da je ulog isuvise veliki da bi se sve prepustilo slucaju i trenutnoj inspiraciji. Mada, ko zna? Mozda Jerez ispadne dobra trka ...
auto-moto.547 miko, -> #540, nesha
> Prvo.. Kad je Seni titula visila o koncu na VN Japana, 1991, nije ubacio > Bergera izmedju sebe i Mensela, vec se sam trkao sa njim, da ne kazem da je > na kraju te trke zakochio i pustio Bergera da pobedi. Nekako mi je teshko > da zamislim Shumahera kako pushta Irvina.. A bash me zanima koja je > Shumaherova pobeda izuzetna, neka chovek da primer. Da, to je bio Senna-in poklon Berger-u, kako je sam rekao, zbog svega sto je ovaj za njega uradio na prethodnim trkama ... Da je Schumacher u istoj poziciji, nisam siguran da li bi isto postupio, ali uopste mislim da Senna-u i Schumacher-a nije moguce porediti ni po jednom osnovu. Veliki vozac se ne postaje samo osvajanjem titule ... Senna je cinio cuda, a Schumacher je ispao obican naduvani balon. Da li se neko seca VN Belgije 1992, kada se na treningu, Eric Comas, koji je vozio za Larousse, bukvalno zakucao u ogradu pri brzini od oko, sigurno, 300+ km/h? Bolid se, naravno, raspao, a od svih vozaca koji su tuda prolazili, jedino se Senna zaustavio i potrcao da pomogne Comas-u. Mislim, da bi svaka rec odavde bila suvisna. Mnogi su ga smatrali za najprljavijeg vozaca, ali izgleda da se on tako ponasao samo prema onima koji su to i zasluzili. Konacno, da povucem paralelu, mislim da Damon nije nicim zasluzio onakvo maltretiranje od strane Schumacher-a, poslednjih godina, a vi? Nije da ja ovim opravdavam Hill-ov potez sa prosle trke, naprotiv, mislim da je to bilo vrlo ruzno, ali niko nije savrsen ...
auto-moto.548 nesha,
> najzanimljivije bilo kada je Mansell izgubio istu jer mu je otpao tocak > na izlasku iz boksa, mislim '88 ili '89 ... cak je i tu bilo spekulacija >... Menselu je guma otishla na VN Belgije, '91.. Moglo bi se reci da je to bila najposhtenija borba za titulu koja se dala videti u poslednjih deset godina, uz, recimo, sezonu '88.
auto-moto.549 miko, -> #548, nesha
> Menselu je guma otishla na VN Belgije, '91.. Moglo bi se reci da je > to bila najposhtenija borba za titulu koja se dala videti u > poslednjih deset godina, uz, recimo, sezonu '88. :))))))))))))))))))) Pa, tek sam se sada setio: 1991 Canada, poslednji krug ... Mansell vec otpozdravlja gledaocima, slavi pobedu, "seta" se po stazi, kad ono na 300-400 m. do cilja - staje bolid. 1991 Belgija, na izlazu iz boksa mu otpada pneumatik. 1991 Suzuka, poslednja sansa da stigne Senna-u i ostane u kakvoj-takvoj borbi za titulu, Senna vodi, Mansell mu za petama, voze tako par krugova, i Mansell ode u pesak. Nesretnik.
auto-moto.550 obren,
BBC Ceefax, 17. oktobar ("Irvine out to halt Jacques in Jerez") Idi Irvajn, izjavio je da će učiniti sve što je u njegovoj moći, a što je u okviru dozvoljenih pravila, kako bi pomogao timskom kolegi da osvoji titulu F1 šampiona. U svom intervjuu Dejli Telegrafu, Irvajn je izneo i svoje mišljenje o vozaču Vilijamsa: "Neko ko je cele sezone imao najbrži bolid, ne zaslužuje titulu šampiona. Ne nameravam da ga isteram sa staze, ali ću učiniti sve što je u mojoj moći da mu sve vreme stojim na putu i da ga usporavam".
auto-moto.551 obren,
(Ne)očekivani preokret! Williams je povukao svoju žalbu u vezi diskvalifikacije Žaka Vilneva u Japanu. Nakon što je Max Mosley upozorio Frenka Vilijamsa da bi u slučaju odbijene žalbe Vilnev mogao biti i dodatno kažnjen zabranom učešća na poslednjoj trci, tim je odlučio da ne rizikuje i tako se svesno odrekao 2 osvojena boda u Japanu. Prema tome, prvoplasirani vozači na tabeli zamenili su mesta, tako da Mihael Šumaher sada vodi u generalnom plasmanu sa jednim poenom prednosti pred zadnju trku!
auto-moto.552 nesha,
Gerhard Berger na kraju ove sezone odlazi u zasluzenu penziju sa 38 godina, 209 GP-ja i 10 pobeda iza sebe.. Svoje povlachenje iz sporta ce ozvanichiti na konferenciji za shtampu u Bechu u petak.
auto-moto.553 vpoznanovic,
F1: Japanese GP results (REVISED) PARIS, Oct 16 - Revised result of last Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka after the exclusion of Jacques Villeneuve: Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:29:48.446 2. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault +1.378 3. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari +26.384 4. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes +27.129 5. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault +40.403 6. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas +41.630 7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot +56.825 8. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault +1:00.429 9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot +1:22.036 10. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes -1 lap Engine 11. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha -1 lap 12. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha -1 lap 13. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 -1 lap DNF Tarso Marques BR Minardi-Hart on lap 47 Gearbox DNF Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 on lap 47 Engine DNF Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen on lap 37 Engine DNF Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen on lap 23 Wheel brng DNF Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart on lap 9 Engine DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 on lap 6 Spun DNF Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 on lap 4 Spun EXCL Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault +39.776 DNS Gianni Morbidelli I Sauber-Petronas
auto-moto.554 vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Japanese GP (REVISED) Drivers' Championship: Pos Driver Nat Constructor Points ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 78 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 77 3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 41 4. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 36 5. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 30 6. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 24 7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 22 8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 20 9. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 17 10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 16 11. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 15 12. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 13 13. Damon Hill GB TWR Arrows-Yamaha 7 14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 6 15. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Renault 4 16. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Mugen 3 17. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 2 18. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 2 19. Pedro Diniz BR TWR Arrows-Yamaha 2 20. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1 Constructors' Championship: Pos Constructor Nat Points ---------------------------------------------- 1. Williams-Renault GB 118 2. Ferrari I 100 3. Benetton-Renault I 64 4. McLaren-Mercedes GB 47 5. Jordan-Peugeot GB 33 6. Prost-Mugen F 21 7. Sauber-Petronas CH 16 8. TWR Arrows-Yamaha GB 9 9. Stewart-Ford ZV10 GB 6 10. Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 GB 2
auto-moto.555 nesha,
Jel kachio neko raspored trka za sezonu '98? Ako nije, recite da kachim..
auto-moto.556 vector, -> #555, nesha
> Jel kachio neko raspored trka za sezonu '98? Ako nije, recite da > kachim.. Ajde salji...
auto-moto.557 obren,
Definitivni povratak fabričkih "HONDA" motora u Formulu 1 Vodeći japanski dnevni list "Yomiuri Shimbun" objavio je intervju sa prvim čovekom Honde, Nabuhikom Kawamotom, napravljen za vreme jedne moto-trke u Suzuki na kojoj je ovaj bio prisutan. Kawamoto je potvrdio da će se ova firma vratiti u Formulu 1 najdalje do 2000 godine, a da će konačna odluka biti doneta do kraja sledeće godine. Honda je dominirala Formulom 1 od 1986. do 1991. godine, kada se iz protesta povukla iz najprestižnijeg auto takmičenja jer su inovacije i poboljšanja na njihovom motoru konstantno zabranjivana od strane Svetske automobilske federacije (FIA). Nakon nekoliko uzastopnih rekordnih godina po pitanju ostvarenog profita, ova firma je odlučila da se ponovo vrati u Formulu 1, obzirom da se sledeće godine navršava 50 godina od osnivanja kompanije, ali i zbog marketinškog efekta na Evropskom tržištu automobila (posle pozitivnih efekata na prodaju u Americi nakon osvajanja Idnycar šampionata). Pominju se dve moguće varijante uključenja Honde - kao konstruktora motora, ili kao potpuno samostalnog fabričkog tima. Naime, odmah nakon povlačenja iz Formule 1, inženjeri ove firme su počeli da u najvećoj tajnosti razvijaju prototip sopstvene šasije, koju su fotografi ipak više puta uspeli da snime prilikom testiranja na stazi "Suzuka". Iako već nekoliko sezona u Formuli 1 nastupaju motori pod etiketom Mugen-Honda, ovo nisu zvanični Hondini motori, već derivati na bazi nekadašnjih Hondinih F1 motora koje razvija "Mugen corp." Hirotošija Honde, sina osnivača firme "Honda Motor Co." i vlasnika 40% deonica ove kompanije. Iako je Mugen renomirani tjuner Hondihih automobila (nešto kao AMG za Mercedes) zvaničnici Honde uvek su demantovali povezanost ove kompanije u Mugenovim projektima u Formuli 3000 i od nedavno u Formuli 1, mada je u to teško poverovati. Upućeni tvrde da i pored nedavno sklopljenog ugovora između Džordana i firme Mugen, nije izvesno da li će se novi tim zvati Jordan-Mugen ili Jordan-Honda, ali da će odluku o tome japanska firma doneti do kraja godine. Vlasnik tima, Edi Džordan, prilikom najave prelaska sa Goodyear pneumatika na Bridgestone, najavio je i "uzbudljive" novosti po pitanju motora za kraj oktobra, pa je to bio i dodatni povod za špekulacije o fabričkim Hondama za sledeću sezonu. U svakom slučaju nije tajna da je novi "Honda" motor projektovan u potpunosti u Hondinom odseku za istraživanje i razvoj, ali će verovatno svoju debitantsku sezonu ipak započeti pod etiketom "Mugen" dok se ne dostignu performanse i pouzdanost dostojni renomea Honde. Inače novi motor je već kompletiran i ispitan na inženjerskim stolivima, dok na uklapanju u bolid Džordana za sledeću sezonu zajednički radi čak 240 (!) inženjera i aerodinamičaran iz Honde, Mugena i Džordana. Ipak, testiranje gotovog bolida za sledeću sezonu još uvek ne može normalno da se obavlja, jer postoji smetnja u obliku ekskluzivnog ugovora između Mugena i Prost GP-a, po kome za vreme trajanja sezone motori firme Mugen ne smeju biti posuđivani niti testirani u nekom drugom timu osim Prosta, tako da će najverovatnije Honda ipak odmah stati svojim imenom iza motora i tako omogućiti nesmetano ispitivanje, pre nego što FIA proglasi jednomesečni moratorijum na testove po završetku sezone.
auto-moto.558 vector,
Cart World Series drivers switch teams -------------------------------------- (c) 1997 Copyright Nando.net (c) 1997 Reuters -------------------------------------- TROY, Michigan (Oct 17, 1997 - 18:46 EDT) - With the PPG CART season recently completed, several teams and drivers are already making changes for the 1998 CART World Series lineup. Marlboro Team Penske owner Roger Penske has signed Brazilian Andre Ribeiro to a multi-year contract, and has in turn released Canadian Paul Tracy from his contract, the racing league announced on Friday. "You look for a driver that has had the ability to win races. He has done that," Penske said in a CART statement of Ribeiro, who will drive the Marlboro Penske Mercedes. Tracy and Dario Franchitti of Britain are now teammates for Team KOOL Green next season. The two will perform in Reynard Hondas with Firestones tires. "When the opportunity came up, we thought it would be a brilliant combination," said team owner Barry Green. "I think the two of them working together will be very strong." Tracy won three PPG Cup races in his Marlboro Penske Mercedes this past year, taking the races at Nazareth, Rio de Janeiro and Gateway, and was fifth in the drivers' championship standings with 121 points. "I have a goal here, and that is to win the CART championship," Tracy said. Tracy recorded 13 victories and 11 pole positions in 94 CART career starts. Franchitti was the top rookie of the season, earning his first career pole position at Toronto in the process. "I am very excited to be here, and very excited to be working with Paul," said the Scotsman. "I think we can work well together, and I think the whole team will work really well together." The Patrick Racing Team also announced the signing of Adrian Fernandez of Mexico, who will team up with American Scott Pruett. Both drivers will be piloting Reynard Fords on Firestone tires. Fernandez finished 18th in the championship table this season, in a Lola Honda for Tasman Motorsports. His best finish was third in the season finale at the California Speedway in Fontana.
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An Interview With PPG CART World Series Champion Alex Zanardi ------------------------------------------------------------- CART Online (October 6) -- Alex Zanardi earned his first PPG CART World Series championship in 1997 in just his second season of Indy car competition driving the Target Reynard Honda HRR on Firestone tires for Target/Chip Ganassi Racing. He won a series-high five races at Long Beach, Cleveland, the U.S. 500, Mid-Ohio and Road America. He also topped all drivers with four pole positions, 338 laps led, and 17 times led. Zanardi joined Jacques Villeneuve (1994-1995) as the only CART drivers to win Rookie of the Year honors and the PPG Cup in consecutive seasons. Continuing streaks started in 1996, he established CART records for consecutive pole positions (six) and consecutive front-row starts (11). Teammate Jimmy Vasser finished third in PPG Cup points, reversing the drivers finishes from 1996. Target/Chip Ganassi Racing became the first team to win two straight PPG Cup championships since the Truesports team in 1986 and 1987 with driver Bobby Rahal, and the first to do so with different drivers since Penske Racing in 1982 and 1983, with Rick Mears and Al Unser. Zanardi will officially receive the PPG Cup and $1 million champions bonus October 25 at the CART awards banquet in Los Angeles. Q. You began the season after a successful 1996, winning three races and Rookie of the Year honors with Target/Chip Ganassi Racing. What were your expectations going into 1997? A. The CART series is very competitive and I knew the other teams, the engine builders, and the tire companies, had been working very hard, so I didn't think we would have the kind of technical advantage we had in 1996. At the same time, I believed at the very least, our package with the Reynard chassis, Honda engine, and Firestone tires would be at least equal to what the others had. I also knew we had great support from Target and our other sponsors. In addition to all of this, I had one year of experience in this series, and also working with the Target/Chip Ganassi team. So, when the press said I was one of the main contenders for the championship, it pleased me. I did feel confident, but I also knew our team would have to work very hard to be successful and achieve the results that were possible. Q. Did you have a strategy for the season? A. I try to do my best every day. If, at the end of the day, I know I did the best job I could do, I am satisfied. For sure, I would like to win every race. If that is not possible, then I try to finish second. If I cannot finish second, I try for third. Obviously, to be a contender for the championship, it is important to finish. I feel good that I was running at the finish of every race I started this year, except for one, and that was Detroit where I was hit by another car on the first lap. That also shows the great job Rob Hill (chief mechanic) and all my boys did in preparing the car. Q. You started the season with pole positions at Homestead and in Australia, which set a CART record of six straight poles. What did that achievement mean to you? A. It was incredible. That was something that started at the end of the 1996 season (poles at Mid-Ohio, Road America, Vancouver and Laguna Seca), so, of course, the press and the fans had a lot of time to talk about the possibility of that record before we went to Homestead. To be honest with you, Homestead was a little bit of a surprise, because we had some problems. We had a very good car for Australia, but I was a little bit worried before qualifying, because I got an eye infection when I arrived there. Paul Tracy beat my time very late in the last qualifying session, so to come back with a faster lap made that very satisfying. Mario (Andretti) and Danny Sullivan had the record before me, so I am very proud of that. Q. You won Long Beach, the third race of the season, after finishing seventh in Homestead and fourth in Australia. What were your thoughts then? A. Before Long Beach, we had not had the results that were possible. I was able to lead the first part of the race at Homestead, but then a lot of problems developed with the car. I believe either Paul Tracy or I should have won in Australia because we had the best cars. I was happy to finish fourth because I drove really hard at the end of that race and passed a lot of cars. In Long Beach, I was a bit disappointed, because I didn't get the pole, but I knew I had a good car for the race. The team had fantastic pit stops and we beat Gil (de Ferran) out of the pits to get the lead. My boys really helped me win that race and that was not the only time that happened during the season. Q. The next six races -- Nazareth, Brazil, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Detroit and Portland -- produced mixed results. Your best finishes during that stretch were fourth in Brazil and St. Louis. Were you getting frustrated? A. There were some problems that meant the team did not get the best results. I ran out of fuel on the last lap both in Rio and Gateway (St. Louis) and that cost me some points. I was fastest in the warm-up at Detroit and think I had a very good chance to win that race, but I was hit by Dario (Franchitti) in the first corner and didn't finish a lap. It rained in Portland, and Firestone had a fantastic tire and I led a lot of that race, but I don't think we had the right tire strategy there. After that race, Chip and Morris (Nunn, engineer) and I talked a lot and that was important because I think we all understood what we needed from each other the rest of the year. Q. You won the pole at Cleveland, then came from the 22d place to win. Was that the turning point in the season? A. Cleveland was very special for the whole Target/Chip Ganassi team. Morris gave me a very good car there. If you watch the tape of the race, you will see the joy and happiness I had at the end of it, simply because when I fell down to 22d after the two penalties I had to pay, I was a bit depressed. I felt the race was gone. I did a couple of laps and was very angry and maybe overdriving and couldn't get in front of cars that were, for some reason, a couple of seconds slower than mine. Then I just decided that I was not going to let my anger go through my driving, that I was going to do my best, no matter what that would have been that day. I said to myself, look, you have to drive and forget about the race, and just try to get the best out of this car. Drive it like you do in qualifying, but you have to do that for 70 laps. So, when I was able to do that, and when I saw the checkered flag, I was like living in another world. I won the race without help from any yellows, just with the help of my team, because the boys were incredible in the pit stops. It was a great satisfaction, probably even more than the championship itself. Q. At Toronto, you pressed Mark Blundell hard for the win, but settled for a solid second-place finish. Were you thinking about points? A. Really, I was just trying to get the best finish I could. I passed several cars in the first part of the race, but Mark's car was very good, and he would have had to have problems with the backmarkers for me to pass him. He did have some problems, but not big enough problems. I was happy to finish second in Toronto. Q. How satisfying was it to win the U.S. 500 at Michigan, your first oval victory? A. That was really special for me. I know there were people who thought Zanardi will never win a 500-mile race because he is not patient enough. One of my goals was to win on an oval, and to do that on a superspeedway and in a 500-mile race, well, that was just great. That made me very excited and happy. Q. The U.S. 500 win put you into the PPG Cup lead. Then, you won Mid-Ohio and Road America, for three consecutive victories. What are your memories of those races? A. The team had tested twice at Mid-Ohio and we knew we had a good set-up for that circuit. I was pressing Bryan (Herta) at the beginning and, after his tire exploded, I was able to control the pace. That was a race where Chip did a very good job calling the pit stop strategy. At Elkhart Lake, that was a very difficult race, because of the rain. I will be honest and say I was lucky there, because I went off a few times, but did not damage the car. Obviously, a lot of other guys had problems as well, so at the end of the day, we not only won the race, but also added a lot of points. Q. You won the pole in Vancouver and it was possible to clinch the PPG Cup there. You finished fourth and all-but claimed the title. In retrospect, what are your thoughts on that race? A. It was possible to win the championship in Vancouver and I realize some people think I should have driven just to do that. However, sometimes you have problems and it is necessary to change your strategy in order to come back. That is what I was doing. In that particular race, I really had some serious troubles with the brakes. We had some problems with the car in the (pre-race) warm-up and didn't have the opportunity to work in the brakes like we would normally do. So, I was in trouble with the brakes, especially in the turn where I went off twice, because there were some bumps and it was very difficult to pump the brake pedal. So, twice I had the problem, which I don't consider was a mistake. Unfortunately, on the television, they said I hit a lot of cars. That's not true. The only contact I made was with Bryan Herta. I have to respect the decision of the stewards because, since I signed my name to enter this championship, I have to accept the rules and accept the people that are entitled to apply those rules. But you can clearly imagine that my feeling about that judgment is a bit different. Q. You finished third the following weekend at Laguna Seca to earn the PPG Cup. How hard was that race for you? A. Well, once again, I raced hard with Bryan. I believe his tires went off and he put me off into the dirt. That let (Scott) Pruett and Jimmy (Vasser) get by us. At the finish, I was very, very happy, especially because Jimmy won the race. My perfect idea for that day was for Jimmy to win the race and me to win the championship. I was really happy because Jimmy is a great driver and a great friend of mine. He is a great teammate and we share all the technical information. He had a lot of bad luck this season and deserved to have a good result. Q. You had two major practice accidents at Fontana and did not race there. How frustrating was that? A. It was very frustrating. I found out that I am not a good spectator. However, that was the right decision by Dr. (Steve) Olvey (CART director of medical affairs) to not let me race. I was not feeling right and it would not have been fair to the team or the other drivers. The data showed I received over 50 Gs on the first impact (when hit by debris from Patrick Carpentier's car) and 88 Gs in the second accident. I am very lucky Reynard builds such a strong and safe car. Then, we saw that again in the race, with Arie (Luyendyk's) accident. (Luyendyk was brought in by owner Chip Ganassi to substitute for Zanardi and was hit by Arnd Meier.) That was a big accident. I was really wishing Jimmy would win that race. At least he was second and that made him third in the championship and that was another great result for the team. Q. Your lap speeds at Fontana were close to 240 mph. Are the cars going too fast? A. I don't believe any driver could honestly say he is comfortable at 240mph. Q. Did you ever have any doubts you could win the PPG Cup? A. I never doubted my ability or the ability of the whole Target/Chip Ganassi team. I have had great support from Chip, from Morris Nunn, from Tom Anderson (managing director), from Mike Hull (team manager), from Rob Hill and all the boys. We were able to get a lot out of the Reynard chassis. The Honda engine not only gave me good power, but also fantastic reliability. The Firestone tires were very good and were a big part of our success. Q. You have become a favorite of the fans, especially for doing your trademark donuts. How did that start? A. The donuts began just as a way of celebrating a great accomplishment when we won in Long Beach. And, then, it was amazing because all the fans fell in love with that, and I met a lot of enthusiastic people that kept asking me to do it again. So, I did more donuts after Cleveland, because that was such an incredible race for me, and also at Elkhart Lake. I wanted to do something for the fans there because they had stayed all day in the rain to watch us. The donuts are a lot of fun, and I'm looking forward to doing some more. Q. How has becoming the PPG CART World Series champion changed you? A. Obviously, I'm a much happier man, but it won't change my life. I believe I have worked very hard in my career and that I have earned this championship. Right now, I feel like I'm on top of the world.
auto-moto.560 giovanni, -> #502, nesha
Ę? Ne znam da li ste gledali trku, ali ono shto su uradili ljudi iz Ę? Ferarija nije nishta drugo nego velika sramota.. Pih.. Zašto? Pa Vilnev nije mogao da pretekne Irvajna da je vozio avion a ne Williams. Fantastično odvožena trka od strane Irvajna i zasluženo je Šumaher izbio na prvo mesto. Vilnevu ostaje da se zapita zašto Microprose nije u F1 GP2 ubacio i kazne za nepoštovanje žute zastave. ;>
auto-moto.561 nesha,
VIlnev reche na konferenciji za shtampu da ce za vreme trke da bezi od Irvina ko djavo od krsta.. Mada, iskreno recheno, sumnjam da ce isti moci da ga stigne na ovoj trci, jedino da ga ne zvekne na startu..
auto-moto.562 obren, -> #561, nesha
> VIlnev reche na konferenciji za shtampu da ce za vreme trke da bezi od > Irvina ko djavo od krsta.. Mada, iskreno recheno, sumnjam da ce isti moci > da ga stigne na ovoj trci, jedino da ga ne zvekne na startu.. A Šumaher reče da se ne plaši ekscesa sa Vilnevom, ali da očekuje svakakve gluposti od Frencena...
auto-moto.563 miko, -> #562, obren
> A Sumaher rece da se ne plasi ekscesa sa Vilnevom, ali da > ocekuje svakakve gluposti od Frencena... Konacno, Irvine je rekao da ce uciniti sve sto je u njegovoj moci da maksimalno uspori i omete Villeneuve-a ... naravno, dozvoljenim sredstvima. Eto, zatvorili smo krug ;)) PS Eh, kada bi ti ljudi bili svesni da Hakkinen pobedjuje ...
auto-moto.564 nesha,
Raspored trka za sezonu '98. 08.03. VN Australije, Melburn 29.03. VN Brazila, Sao Paolo 12.04. VN Argentine, Buenos Aires 26.04. VN San Marina, Imola 10.05. VN Spanije, Barselona 24.05. VN Monaka, Monte Karlo 07.06. VN Kanade, Montreal 12.07. VN Engleske, Silverston 26.07. VN Austrije, Celtveg 02.08. VN Nemacke, Hokenhajm 16.08. VN Madjarske, Budimpesta 30.08. VN Belgije, Spa 13.09. VN Italije, Monca 27.09. VN Luksemburga, Nirburgring 11.10. VN Portugalije, Estoril 01.11. VN Japana, Suzuka
auto-moto.565 vpoznanovic,
European Grand Prix 1997 from Jerez de la Frontera, Spain 24th October 1997 - 26th October 1997 Friday, October 24th 1st Free Practice (11:00 - 12:00 CET) 2nd Free Practice (13:00 - 14:00 CET) Saturday, October 25th 3rd Free Practice (9:00 - 9:45 CET) 4th Free Practice (10:15 - 11:00 CET) Qualifying (13:00 - 14:00 CET) Sunday, October 26th Warm-up (9:30 - 10:00 CET) Race (14:00 CET)
auto-moto.566 sjocic, -> #564, nesha
-> Raspored trka za sezonu '98. Ima li sanse da Eurosport ove godine preuzme prenose ?
auto-moto.567 nesha, -> #566, sjocic
> Ima li sanse da Eurosport ove godine preuzme prenose ? Kako sam ja chuo, ove godine je sama FIA imala poprilichne gubitke zato shto nije bilo prenosa na Eurosportu (chisto iz marketinshkih razloga), pa me ne bi chudilo da ponovo potpishu ugovor. Tako je bilo i 1991, kad isto nije bilo prenosa nigde do na RTL-u, pa se '92. sve opet sredilo..
auto-moto.568 obren,
Rezultati današnjeg treninga u Herezu... (Information: http://www.f1-live.com) P. No Driver Team - Car Time/Laps ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1. 14 PANIS Prost Mugen Honda 1'22"735 205.683 km/h 2. 1 HILL Arrows Yamaha 1'22"898 + 0'00"163 3. 3 VILLENEUVE Williams Renault 1'22"922 + 0'00"187 4. 22 BARRICHELLO Stewart Ford 1'22"964 + 0'00"229 5. 9 HAKKINEN McLaren Mercedes 1'23"024 + 0'00"289 6. 4 FRENTZEN Williams Renault 1'23"124 + 0'00"389 7. 7 ALESI Benetton Renault 1'23"174 + 0'00"439 8. 10 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes 1'23"440 + 0'00"705 9. 5 M.SCHUM. Ferrari 1'23"532 + 0'00"797 10. 11 R.SCHUM. Jordan Peugeot 1'23"678 + 0'00"943 11. 23 MAGNUSSEN Stewart Ford 1'23"685 + 0'00"950 12. 6 IRVINE Ferrari 1'23"695 + 0'00"960 13. 8 BERGER Benetton Renault 1'23"923 + 0'01"188 14. 12 FISICHELLA Jordan Peugeot 1'24"263 + 0'01"528 15. 20 KATAYAMA Minardi Hart 1'24"329 + 0'01"594 16. 16 HERBERT Sauber Petronas 1'24"507 + 0'01"772 17. 15 NAKANO Prost Mugen Honda 1'24"735 + 0'02"000 18. 2 DINIZ Arrows Yamaha 1'24"797 + 0'02"062 19. 19 SALO Tyrrell Ford 1'25"025 + 0'02"290 20. 17 FONTANA Sauber Petronas 1'25"134 + 0'02"399 21. 18 VERSTAPPEN Tyrrell Ford 1'25"327 + 0'02"592 22. 21 MARQUES Minardi Hart 1'26"816 + 0'04"081
auto-moto.570 vpoznanovic,
Nezapamćeno u istoriji Formule 1! F1: European GP Saturday qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:21.072 2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:21.072 0.000 0.000 3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:21.072 0.000 0.000 4. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:21.130 0.058 0.058 5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.369 0.239 0.297 6. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.476 0.107 0.404 7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:21.610 0.134 0.538 8. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:21.656 0.046 0.584 9. Olivier Panis I Prost-Mugen 1:21.735 0.079 0.663 10. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:22.011 0.276 0.939 11. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:22.167 0.156 1.095 12. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:22.222 0.055 1.150 13. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:22.234 0.012 1.162 14. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:22.263 0.029 1.191 15. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:22.351 0.088 1.279 16. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:22.740 0.389 1.668 17. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:22.804 0.064 1.732 18. Norbert Fontana RA Sauber-Petronas 1:23.281 0.477 2.209 19. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:23.409 0.128 2.337 20. Tarso Marques BR Minardi-Hart 1:23.854 0.445 2.782 21. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:24.222 0.368 3.150 22. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:24.301 0.079 3.229 107% of fastest time: 1:26.747
auto-moto.571 obren,
Kvalifikacije koje zasigurno ulaze u istoriju! :) Jerez - Europe European Grand Prix 1997 Qualifying results Circuito de Jerez, Jerez de la Frontera, Spain. Circuit length: 4.428 km. Race distance: 69 laps; 305.532 km. Pos Name Team Tyres Lap time Gap ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Jacques Villeneuve Williams-Renault GoodYear 1:21.072 ! 2. Michael Schumacher Ferrari GoodYear 1:21.072 +0.000 ! 3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen Williams-Renault GoodYear 1:21.072 +0.000 ! 4. Damon Hill Arrows-Yamaha Bridgestone 1:21.130 +0.058 5. Mika Hńkkinen McLaren-Mercedes GoodYear 1:21.369 +0.297 6. David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes GoodYear 1:21.476 +0.404 7. Eddie Irvine Ferrari GoodYear 1:21.610 +0.538 8. Gerhard Berger Benetton-Renault GoodYear 1:21.656 +0.584 9. Olivier Panis Prost-Mugen Honda Bridgestone 1:21.735 +0.663 10. Jean Alesi Benetton-Renault GoodYear 1:22.011 +0.939 11. Jan Magnussen Stewart-Ford Bridgestone 1:22.167 +1.095 12. Rubens Barrichello Stewart-Ford Bridgestone 1:22.222 +1.150 13. Pedro-Paulo Diniz Arrows-Yamaha Bridgestone 1:22.234 +1.162 14. Johnny Herbert Sauber-Petronas GoodYear 1:22.263 +1.191 15. Shinji Nakano Prost-Mugen Honda Bridgestone 1:22.351 +1.279 16. Ralf Schumacher Jordan-Peugeot GoodYear 1:22.740 +1.668 17. Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Peugeot GoodYear 1:22.804 +1.732 18. Norberto Fontana Sauber-Petronas GoodYear 1:23.281 +2.209 19. Ukyo Katayama Minardi-Hart Bridgestone 1:23.409 +2.337 20. Tarso Marques Minardi-Hart Bridgestone 1:23.854 +2.782 21. Mika Salo Tyrrell-Ford GoodYear 1:24.222 +3.150 22. Jos Verstappen Tyrrell-Ford GoodYear 1:24.301 +3.229 Qualifying Report Olivier Panis, who holded the fastest lap for a short time this morning and finished Friday's practice in top spot, is the first driver to hit the asphalt at Jerez. Panis completed his first lap in 1 minute 22.191 seconds. After five minutes there are pretty much cars on track including Jean Alesi who crashed into a wall this morning and also spins in his first timed lap just after start finish. Panic in the pit lane due to communication problems. Most of the TV screens went off and also the timing screens went off. Heinz-Harald Frentzen set the fastest lap after 10 minutes of qualifying. He completed the Jerez track in 1 minute 22:022 seconds. After about 13 minute title candidate Jacques Villeneuve went on track. Brazilian Pedro-Paulo Diniz set the third fastest time in front of Eddie Irvine who returned to pit. Bridgestone is doing well in Jerez, although very little teams tested here. Villeneuve on straight, over the cerb-stones in the first and second corner. Fast left corners and then first intermediate of 22:512 seconds. Coulthard is behind Villeneuve and is driving quicker. Villeneuve sets a 1 minute 00.422 seconds on second intermediate. He completes the lap in 1 minute 21.072 seconds. David Coulthard set the second fastest time, 0.404 seconds behind Villeneuve. Villeneuve is leading in front of Coulthard, Micheal Schumacher, Frentzen, Panis, Diniz, Irvine, Hakkinen and Ralf Schumacher after 16 minutes. Micheal Schumacher is about 7-tenths of a second behind Villeneuve. Olivier Panis is back on track and spins off. He is currently fifth and returns to pit. Ulsterman Eddie Irvine is back on track for his second run, and is just 0.2 seconds slower than Villeneuve in second section. Irvine completed the lap in 1 minute 21.739 seconds, good for a third spot on row two. Gerhard Berger is only 22nd, struggling to get forward. Berger will quit Grand Prix racing after this race but could not deny he will return some time. Rubens Barrichello is the only driver who has not yet set a lap time. He crashed in this morning's free-practice when he spun off due to suspension problems. Japanese Ukyo Katayama is performing very well in his last qualifying of his career. Ukyo Katayama will retire from Grand Prix racing after this Grand Prix. Ralf Schumacher, driving for the British Jordan team, spun in the chicane and returns to pit by motorbike. Micheal Schumacher on track and is faster than Villeneuve in the first section. Gerhard Berger set the fourth fastest time. Micheal Schumacher is 0.3 seconds faster than Villeneuve is second session. He completes the lap in 1 minute 21.072, good for a second position. 0.000 seconds is the gap between Villeneuve (1st) and Schumacher (2nd). Because Villeneuve set the lap time earlier in the session, he is in front with 30 minutes left. Olivier Panis is fast, really fast. His Prost car with Bridgestone tyres set the fastest first intermediate time but lost some time in second section of the track and completes the lap in 7th position, 0.787 seconds behind. Heinz-Harald Frentzen is just 0.003 seconds slower than Jacques and Micheal in first section. The second section he completes in 1 minute 00.944 seconds. Eddie Irvine to fifth position. Villeneuve and Schumacher on track with about 18 minutes remaining. Jacques Villeneuve is 0.2 seconds faster in first intermediate. The second intermediate is completed in 1 minute 00.440 seconds, losing 2 tenths-of-a-second when he went on the grass. He completes his lap in a 1:21.390. Gerhard Berger is faster than Villeneuve and Schumacher in first section but lost 0.8 seconds in second section. Mika Hakkinen faster... lost some time in third section but improved to third position behind the two title rivals. Heinz-Harald Frentzen on track with 10 minutes remaining. His car has new slicks and Frentzen will concentrate on his final run. Also Frentzen is faster in first and second section. He completes the lap in 1 minute, guess what, 072 seconds. Now four cars are within... 0.058 seconds when Damon Hill took fourth spot. Less than five minutes left... Coulthard on track, Schumacher and Villeneuve in pit. David Coulthard is 0.1 seconds faster in first section while Schumacher and Villeneuve went out of pits. Coulthard lost some time in second intermediate. Micheal Schumacher just 0.029 seconds lost in first section, Villeneuve is 0.2 seconds faster. Schumacher 0.151 seconds lost in second intermediate. Schumacher did not improve his lap time and als Villeneuve could not improve the fastest lap.
auto-moto.572 vpoznanovic,
F1: European GP Saturday free practice Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.738 2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.856 0.118 0.118 3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:21.263 0.407 0.525 4. Olivier Panis I Prost-Mugen 1:21.364 0.101 0.626 5. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:21.525 0.161 0.787 6. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:21.593 0.068 0.855 7. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:21.605 0.012 0.867 8. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:21.671 0.066 0.933 9. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:21.780 0.109 1.042 10. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:21.814 0.034 1.076 11. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:21.881 0.067 1.143 12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:22.065 0.184 1.327 13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:22.117 0.052 1.379 14. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:22.120 0.003 1.382 15. Norbert Fontana RA Sauber-Petronas 1:22.404 0.284 1.666 16. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:22.438 0.034 1.700 17. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:22.512 0.074 1.774 18. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:22.750 0.238 2.012 19. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:22.820 0.070 2.082 20. Tarso Marques BR Minardi-Hart 1:23.369 0.549 2.631 21. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:23.742 0.373 3.004 22. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:24.429 0.687 3.691 107% of fastest time: 1:26.389
auto-moto.574 vpoznanovic,
F1: European GP Sunday warmup Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.016 2. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:23.160 0.144 0.144 3. Olivier Panis I Prost-Mugen 1:23.166 0.006 0.150 4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.359 0.193 0.343 5. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:23.849 0.490 0.833 6. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:24.012 0.163 0.996 7. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:24.063 0.051 1.047 8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:24.089 0.026 1.073 9. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:24.125 0.036 1.109 10. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:24.231 0.106 1.215 11. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:24.309 0.078 1.293 12. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:24.386 0.077 1.370 13. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:24.540 0.154 1.524 14. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:24.560 0.020 1.544 15. Norbert Fontana RA Sauber-Petronas 1:24.795 0.235 1.779 16. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:25.103 0.308 2.087 17. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:25.159 0.056 2.143 18. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:25.275 0.116 2.259 19. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:25.377 0.102 2.361 20. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:25.419 0.042 2.403 21. Tarso Marques BR Minardi-Hart 1:25.707 0.288 2.691 22. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:26.307 0.600 3.291 107% of fastest time: 1:28.827
auto-moto.575 nesha,
Shumaheru, kurvo!!! E, i trea da ispadne..
auto-moto.576 vector, -> #575, nesha
> Shumaheru, kurvo!!! E, i trea da ispadne.. Ne mogu da verujem... seljacina je zaista htela da slupa Vilneva...
auto-moto.577 rades,
I taj Schumacher mi je bio kandidat za sampiona... Sramota. Zaista nesportski. MiloS.
auto-moto.578 nesha, -> #577, rades
>I taj Schumacher mi je bio kandidat za sampiona... I taj Shumaher je dvostruki shampion. To je tek sramota. p.s. Ne da je Irvin opako odvozio ovu trku nego..
auto-moto.579 obren,
Jerez - Europe European Grand Prix 1997 Race Results Weather: Dry, partly cloudy Driver Name Team Tyres Gap Av. Speed ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Mika Hńkkinen McLaren-Mercedes GoodYear 1h 38:57.772 185.240 2. David Coulthard McLarren-MercedesGoodYear +1.654 185.188 3. Jacques Villeneuve Williams-Renault GoodYear +1.802 185.184 4. Gerhard Berger Benetton-Renault GoodYear +1.919 185.180 5. Eddie Irvine Ferrari GoodYear +3.789 185.122 6. H. H. Frentzen Williams-Renault GoodYear +4.537 185.093 7. Olivier Panis Prost-Mugen HondaBridgestone +1:07.145 183.169 8. Johnny Herbert Sauber-Petronas GoodYear +1:12.960 182.991 9. Jan Magnussen Stewart-Ford Bridgestone +1:17.487 182.854 10. Shinji Nakano Prost-Mugen HondaBridgestone +1:18.215 182.832 11. G. Fisichella Jordan-Peugeot GoodYear 1 lap 182.311 12. Mika Salo Tyrrell-Ford GoodYear 1 lap 182.027 13. Jean Alesi Benetton-Renault GoodYear 1 lap 182.005 14. Norberto Fontana Sauber-Petronas GoodYear 1 lap 181.096 15. Tarso Marques Minardi-Hart Bridgestone 1 lap 180.761 16. Jos Verstappen Tyrrell-Ford GoodYear 1 lap 180.475 17. Ukyo Katayama Minardi-Hart Bridgestone 1 lap 180.455 DNF Damon Hill Arrows-Yamaha Bridgestone 22 laps (Engine) DNF Michael Schumacher Ferrari GoodYear 22 laps (Crash) DNF Ralf Schumacher Jordan-Peugeot GoodYear 25 laps (Water leak) DNF Rubens Barrichello Stewart-Ford Bridgestone 39 laps (Spun) DNF Pedro-Paulo Diniz Arrows-Yamaha Bridgestone 58 laps (Spun) Fastest lap in race: Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Williams-Renault) Race Report 1:21.072, the magic time, the pole time. Jacques Villeneuve, Micheal Schumacher and Heinz-Harald Frentzen drove this time in Saturday's Qualifying session. Villeneuve drove it first which means he is on pole. The situation in the championship is 78 for Schumacher and 77 for Villeneuve. This means Schumacher has only to finish in front of Villeneuve to grab the world title. Micheal Schumacher won the European Grand Prix in 1994 and 1995, Jacques Villeneuve was the 1996 winner. German Ralf Schumacher started the race with the spare car. All cars got away for the parade lap. Villeneuve to start from the left, Micheal on the right. Schumacher has a better start and to first position. Frentzen overtakes teammate Villeneuve who is now in third. Both McLarens alongside Damon Hill who started from fourth position. Micheal Schumacher is creating a gap towards Frentzen who is now 2 seconds behind after the first lap. Schumachers teammate Irvine started from 7th and is still in 7th position. Micheal Schumacher sets the fastest lap of 1 minute 24.8 seconds. Frentzen improves the fastest lap on lap 3 to a 1:24.571. All cars are still in the race. The gap after 4 laps is still 2 seconds while Villeneuve improved the fastest lap. It seems that both Williams drivers and Schumacher have not extremely much fuel on board. Frentzen decreases the gap on lap 5 towards 1.9 seconds. Villeneuve comes closer to Frentzen and sets the fastest lap on lap 6 (1:24.424). Team orders from Williams... Villeneuve overtakes Frentzen on lap 8 while Schumacher again improves the fastest lap. The gap between Schumacher and Villeneuve is now 4.2 seconds, while Schumacher again improved the fastest lap on lap 9 but Villeneuve improved that again on the same lap to a 1:24.227. The gap towards Frentzen (Schumacher - Frentzen) is over 8 seconds. Mika Hakkinen and David Coulthard are close to Frentzen. Schumacher is going better while Diniz spun off. Schumacher improved 7-tenths which means the gap is now 4.8 seconds. The Williams tactics are probably that Frentzen holds off other drivers to give Villeneuve an empty road behind him to avoid threatments from the back. McLaren team boss Ron Dennis is not happy with the situation Frentzen is holding of his drivers. Mika Salo and Tarso Marques are the first drivers who went into pit while Micheal Schumacher improves the current fastest lap which was in hands of his brother Ralf (1:24.131, lap 16). After 17 laps Villeneuve is 5 seconds behind Schumacher. Ralf Schumacher into pit on lap 18. The gap between Villeneuve and Frentzen is over 11 seconds after 20 laps. Micheal Schumacher, Jacques Villeneuve, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Mika Hakkinen, David Coulthard and Damon Hill, that's currently - after 21 laps - the top-6. Micheal Schumacher was blocked by Tarso Marques, who ofcourse didn't know he went into pit. Jacques Villeneuve meets Marques too but went into pit just one lap after Schumacher. Villeneuve comes on track just in front of Ferrari driver Eddie Irvine. Frentzen is leading in front of Hakkinen and Schumacher. Micheal Schumacher is just 1 second behind Frentzen while Eddie Irvine went into pit. Eddie Irvine returns on track in seventh position and 'blocks' Hill in the first corner. Giancarlo Fisichella and Norberto Fontana into pit on lap 25, also David Coulthard went into pit while Villeneuve improves the fastest lap. Hakkinen into pit on lap 26, Frentzen leading in front of Schumacher and direct behind him Villeneuve who is pushing Schumacher and even tries to overtake him. Villeneuve on the grass while the gap between Schumacher and Frentzen increases. On lap 28 Frentzen went into pit. The gap between Schumacher and Villeneuve is just one second. Schumacher leading in front of Villeneuve, Berger, Coulthard, Hakkinen and Frentzen. After 29 laps the gap is still 1 second while Berger went into pits (40 laps remaining). Norberto Fontana is blocking Villeneuve who lost about 2 seconds because of this. Eddie Irvine is now sixth. Barrichello into pit... probably with technical problems. Micheal Schumacher blocking his wheels while he is still 2.8 seconds in front of Villeneuve. Villeneuve wins half a second on lap 34. Rubens Barrichello retired with Gearbox problems, he is just the second one to retire. Jacques Villeneuve again wins some time to decrease the gap to 1.967 seconds. Both Schumacher and Villeneuve reached the tail of the field with Giancarlo Fisichella, Shinji Naknao and Ralf Schumacher. The Jordan car of Ralf Schumacher, or better said the Peugeot engine is going to blow, smoke comes from the back of his car. Michael Schumacher is leading after 41 laps in front of Villeneuve, Coulthard, Hakkinen, Frentzen, Irvine, Berger and Hill. With 27 laps remaining Micheal Schumacher comes into pit and Villeneuve goes straight. Micheal Schumacher returns on track in second position. Jacques Villeneuve comes back on track in 3rd position just behind David Coulthard. Coulthard into pit on lap 45, Villeneuve back to second position. The gap between Schumacher and Villeneuve is now again, one second. Gerhard Berger spins off but was able to return to pit. And then, the key in the race. Villeneuve gets alongside Schumacher, but Schumacher steers to the right and intentionally hits Villeneuve! German crashes, but no serious damage on the Williams car. The only thing Villeneuve has to do is to finish at least 6th. Hill retires due to engine problems. Villeneuve is leading in front of Coulthard and Hakkinen. Irvine is fourth in front of Gerhard Berger and Heinz-Harald Frentzen. After 60 laps David Coulthard is 4.6 seconds behind Villeneuve (9 laps remaining). Hakkinen is third followed by Irvine, Berger and Frentzen who also holds the fastest lap. Heinz-Harald Frentzen is just 11 seconds behind leader Villeneuve. David Coulthard is losing time when the gap is over 5 seconds after 62 laps. Shinji Nakano, who was expected to be replaced by Jarno Trulli here in Jerez, is able to follow Villeneuve. Nakano is alongside Villeneuve on lap 64 with Coulthard comming closer. Only Fisichella is between them. The gap between Villeneuve and Coulthard is now just 2 seconds. Hakkinen and David Coulthard switch places at start/finish with 3 laps remaining. 5.5 seconds, that's the difference between number one and number six on track. Hakkinen is alongside Fisichella and decreases the gap between him and Villeneuve. They are in the final lap with a gap of 1.2 seconds. Villeneuve slows down to let Mika Hakkinen win his first GP, but Coulthard also went alongside him so it is a 1-2 finish for McLaren. Villeneuve takes 4 points and he is the 1997 World Champion!
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F1: Final 1997 Formula 1 World Championship standings Drivers' Championship Pos Driver Nat Constructor Points ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 81 2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 78 3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 42 4. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 36 David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 36 6. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 27 Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 27 8. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 24 9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 20 10. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 16 11. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 15 12. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 13 13. Damon Hill GB TWR Arrows-Yamaha 7 14. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 6 15. Alexander Wurz A Benetton-Renault 4 16. Jarno Trulli I Prost-Mugen 3 17. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 2 Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 2 Pedro Diniz BR TWR Arrows-Yamaha 2 20. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1 Constructors' championship Pos Constructor Nat Points ---------------------------------------------- 1. Williams-Renault GB 123 2. Ferrari I 102 3. Benetton-Renault I 67 4. McLaren-Mercedes GB 63 5. Jordan-Peugeot GB 33 6. Prost-Mugen F 21 7. Sauber-Petronas CH 16 8. TWR Arrows-Yamaha GB 9 9. Stewart-Ford ZV10 GB 6 10. Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 GB 2
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Post-Race Press Conference QUESTIONER: MIKA, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST WIN AFTER SO MANY DISAPPOINTMENTS. AND IT ALL HAPPENED IN THE LAST LAP ... Mika Hakkinen: Yes, it's pretty unbelievable. The race was interesting from start to finish, at least it was for me. At the start of the race I lost some time behind Jacques and I wanted to go quicker. But he was fighting for the championship and it would have been far too risky for me to try any overtaking manoeuvre. I more or less decided to stay behind him. Then coming into the last couple of laps there was a Jordan in front of us, and Jacques was there too. David was in front of me, too ... and from my point of view it was fantastic. QUESTIONER: UNTIL THEN, DID YOU EVER BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD HAVE WON TODAY? Mika Hakkinen: I never would have thought that we would win. Then I got the opportunity [to pass David]. I don't know exactly what happened, because it was a strange place to overtake David, but for my benefit it was fantastic. QUESTIONER: DAVID, YOU STARTED THE SEASON WITH A WIN IN MELBOURNE. YOU MUST BE DELIGHTED TO FINISH SECOND HERE. David Coulthard: Yes, it was my goal to be on the podium here and I am happy to be here. I am also delighted for the team that we got a 1 2. We had a little help from Jacques at the end, and I let Mika through to give him a chance to push because I couldn't make any headway against the Jordan. And he was obviously quick enough to go past Jacques at the chicane. QUESTIONER: JACQUES, THIS HAS BEEN A SEASON OF CHANGING FORTUNES FOR YOU. THIRD PLACE TODAY GIVES YOU THE POINTS YOU NEED AND THE RESULT YOU WANTED. Jacques Villeneuve: Yes, the championship feels great. It's been an up and down season and we have been the most competitive team since the beginning of the year. But there have been many races where we didn't get the job done. I made a few mistakes, the team also, and somehow things didn't go right when they should have gone right. After the disqualification at Suzuka it feels great to have won the title here. Twenty laps from the end, after I overtook Michael, I was a little worried about the state of the car. I was not really surprised when he finally decided to turn in on me it was a little bit expected and I knew I was taking a bit of a risk. But when he touched me we banged wheels and my car jumped in the air. I really felt that the crash had broken something. Luckily he went off the road, but my car felt very strange. Especially in right hand corners the rear end was not at all stable. I could only push hard for a few laps because the tyres were heating up in a strange way. I could push, then slow down, then push again. Towards the end Nakano was in my mirrors and I didn't want to be looking in the mirrors all the time, so I let him go by. After that everyone was getting very close to me, including Mika. At the beginning of the race, when he was quicker [than me], he didn't want to be part of the fight and he stayed out of the battle later on in the race. So when I saw him coming up in my mirrors it was a question of either pushing like a maniac and taking the risk of going off because of the strange way the car was handling, or looking out in case he made a move, just to let him through. When he did make his move I let him through. David was very close, too, so I didn't fight him either. QUESTIONER: HOW DID YOU LEARN THAT MICHAEL SCHUMACHER WAS OUT OF THE RACE? DID YOU GET A MESSAGE ON THE RADIO? Jacques Villeneuve: No, I knew it right away because the way he hit me was really, really hard. I am surprised that I was actually able to finish the race. When he came over on me I couldn't move over any further because I was already on the grass. Either Michael had his eyes closed or somehow his hands slipped off the steering wheel or something ... QUESTIONER: IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE RACE MICHAEL HAD AN ADVANTAGE ON YOU, THEN YOU SEEMED TO GET IT BACK. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? Jacques Villeneuve: Yes, Michael had three sets of new tyres and we only had two. So we started the race on old tyres. Even so, I don't know how we managed to make [such a fast] start because it was very slippery and I had a lot of wheelspin even though I had not made a bad start. When Michael took off like a rocket I was very surprised, so I didn't close the door on him and just let him through. After a few more laps he must have had a problem because he started to slow down. From that moment it was just a question of fighting against Michael. But he already had a five seconds lead. Even though I was pushing all the way it was a very tough race and I just couldn't get close to him until we went on to the new tyres. QUESTIONER: WAS THERE ANY POINT IN THE RACE WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD LOST IT? Jacques Villeneuve: On the first set it didn't look good, because I was pushing and I still couldn't catch Michael. One lap he would go slower, and then I would go faster, and so on. It was also becoming a very physical race, because we were doing qualifying laps all the way, which made this one of the most difficult races I have ever done. Then as soon as I put on the new tyres and started to get close to him I thought, 'OK, now we can make a move.' But then somehow we came up to a Sauber driver who opened the door very wide for Michael and decided to stay in front of me. They are using the same engine, of course, which may have something to do with it ... That blocked me for half a lap which gave Michael a three second lead and it was very difficult to catch him before the second pit stop, after which his tyres somehow didn't seem to work.
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Šumaher prošao bez kazne Komisija Svetske automobilske federacije (FIA) odlučila je da ne preduzima nikakve akcije zbog sudara Mihaela Šumahera i Žaka Vilneva. Ocenjeno je da je u pitanju ipak bio "incident poput mnogih koji se dešavaju u trkama" te da nema razloga za preduzimanje nikakvih kaznenih mera prema Šumaheru. Ipak, novi Svetski šampion, Žak Vilnev, optužio je svog rivala Mihaela Šumahera da je pokušao da ga izbaci sa staze. "Znao sam da je Mihael spreman na tako nešto, a ispostavilo se da je to zaista i pokušao", izjavio je Žak. "Kada sam se odlučio na obilaženje, znao sam da su mi šanse manje od 50 procenata, ali nije bilo poente da završim kao drugoplasirani. Smatrao sam da je bolje pokušati, pa makar završio i van staze nego da šampionat tek tako predam pognutih ramena."
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Izjave učesnika vozala nakon trke: Villeneuve: "Ako Mihael ono nije namerno uradio, onda je ili vozio zavorenih očiju ili su mu ruke skliznule sa volana ... Osvojiti svetski šampionat je zaista fantastično a ova trka je bila teška i psihološki zahtevna ... Smatrao sam da imam šanse da ga obiđem, i mislim da sam ga iznenadio i zatekao. Šanse su mi bile manje od 50:50, ali nisam imao izbora osim da pokušam ... Mihael me je vrlo jako udario, tako da sam mislio da je bolid onesposobljen. Znao sam da je on spreman na tako nešto i to je i uradio ... Bilo je uspona i padove tokom ove sezone, ali na kraju smo ipak uradili odličan posao. Zaistan sam srećan zbog tima, mojih navijača i naravno moje Kanade" M. Schumacher: "Ne bih komentarisao incident, samo ću reći da je Žak bio na pravom mestu u pravo vreme" Marques: "Zadovoljan sam današnjim performansama bolida. Setap je bio dobar tako da sam jedino imao malih problema sa kočenjem pri kraju trke. Želeo sam da osvojim bar jedan bod, ali obzirom da je priličan broj vozača završio trku to je bilo gotovo nemoguće." Katayama: "Moj bolid je bio mnogo bolji nego za vreme kvalifikacija, a i Bridgestone gume su bile vrlo konzistentne za vreme cele trke. Zadovoljan sam današnjim rezultatom - želja mi je bila da završim poslednju trku u karijeri i uspeo sam! Hteo bih da zahvalim svojim mehaničarima koji su se mnogo trudili da mi to danas omoguće. Istovremeno bih hteo da se zahvalim svim ljudima u Formuli 1 sa kojima sam sarađivao, pre svega timovima za koje sam vozio, zatim mojim sponzorima, vernim navijačima i štampi svida u svetu koja me je podržavala. Uvek ću se sećati ovog perioda u mom životu u godinama koje dolaze." Herbert: "Nisam startovao onako kako sam želeo, ali ipak nisam izgubio svoju poziciju. Mnogo truda sam uložio da se odbranim od Ralfa Šumahera koji je bio neposredno iza mene. Sve u svemu, moja vožnja danas nije bila ništa spektakularno, trudio sam se da sačuvam gume, a poslenju šansu da pokušam da stignem Panisa na sedmom mestu, izgubio sam kada sam se zaglavio iza jednog od Minardija." Fontana: "Jako loše sam startovao, uz mnogo proklizavanja u prvoj i drugoj brzini. Prvi i drugi set pneumatika bili su dobri, ali kod trećeg je došlo do strašne preupravljivosti, dok je staza delovala kao da je premazana uljem" Mika Salo: "Imao sam pravi mega-start, pa sam odmah obišao nekoliko vozača ispred sebe. Bolid je bio odličan celog vikenda, tako da smo pokazali da se možemo nosisti sa Benetonom, Zauberom i Džordanom. Želeo sam da stignem Fizikelu pred kraj trke, pošto mi je ovo bila i poslednja trka za ovaj tim. Imao sam divne trenutke u Tirelu i želim da se zahvalim svim ljudima koji su zaista naporno radili da mi omoguće prave uslove za vožnju u protekle tri godine. Imali smo i dobrih i loših trenutaka, ali siguran sam da ćemo ostati prijatelji. Želim im sve najbolje u budućnosti." Verstappen: "I Mika i ja startovali smo odlično, ali on je uspeo da prođe Nakana pre prve krivine. dok meni to nije pošlo za rukom. To me je dosta koštalo u daljem toku trke, jer je posle bilo jako teško držazi korak sa Prostovim bolidom. Bila je ovo teška sezona što se tiče rezultata, ali moram reći da je ova prva godina u Tirelu bila vrlo interesantna, dok ćemo tek videti šta budućnost donosi." R. Schumacher: "Ovo baš i nije bio pravi način da završim sezonu. Imao sam korektan start, ali nisam uspeo da obiđem nikoga na početku. To je značilo da sam dosta vremena proveo na začelju što baš i nije zabavno. Nakon drugog pit-stopa, motor je počeo da gubi snagu pošto je došlo do curenja vode iz hladnjaka, pa sam morao da napustim trku. Tek što sam izašao iz bolida rekli su mi da je i Mihael završio trku što mi je skrenulo pažnju sa mojih problema" Fisichella: "Ova trka je bila teška za mene. Bolid je slabo prianjao za asfalt, kako napred tako i pozadi. Spore krivine su bile naročito teške za prolaženje. Druga polovina trke je bila nešto bolja jer je po stazi bilo dosta slojeva gume tako da je asfalt bio lepljiviji ... Bilo je vrlo zanimljivo voziti između Vilneva i Hakinena, jedini problem je bio što sam ja zaostajao ceo krug za njima! Naravno, to je jako deprimirajuće jer je ovo bila moja poslednja trka za Džordan, ali sve u svemu proveo sam jednu divnu godinu u ovom timu, koje ću se uvek sećati. Želim da se svima zahvalim za podršku i pomoć koju su mi pružili - i za svu zabavu po kojoj je Džordan poznat." Barrichello: "Otišao mi je menjač... Imali smo strategiju sa jednim odlaskom u boks, ali prokleti menjač je zakazao. Jedva čekam sledeću sezonu." Pedro Lammy: "Bio je to jako nesportski gest od strane Šumahera. Moglo je biti vrlo opasno da su se dotakli točkovima."
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Vesti i tračevi iz Formule 1 Valentino Rossi, svetski šampion u motociklizmu u klasi 125cc, kladio se sa prijateljima da će prošetati go kroz grad ako Šumaher postane šampion... ;) Frenk Vilijams je zatražio od FIA-e da ispita Ferarijev novi prednji spojler. U pitanju je novi tip prdnjeg krila koji je fkelsibilan, ali komisija je ocenila da je sve u okviru propisa. VISA će biti jedan od većih sponzora Prost GP-a sledeće godine. Time će postati direktan konkurent MasterCardu koji sponzoriše Jordan. Ferrarijev novi bolid za 1998. sezonu je potpuno spreman, a testiranja će biti nastavljena krajem novembra, posle moratorijuma na testiranja koji počinje već danas. Japanska kompanija "Dome" ne odustaje od uključivanja u F1 šampionat. Ova firma je do sada tradicionalno sarađivala sa Hondom u motosportu, u četiri kategorije u Japanu: JTCC (Honda Accord), JGTC (Honda NSX), F3 (Dome-Mugen) i Formuli Nippon (Dome-Mugen). Iz tog razlogi svi očekuju nastavak saradnje u sezoni 1999. godine, odnosno da će Dome za svoje šasije dobiti Hondine motore. Nissan planira da se vrati u Formulu 1, tako da očajnički pokušava da dobije makar i privremeno Osamu Gotoa, ex-Hondinog a sada Ferrarijevog inženjera koji trenutno na privremenom radu u Zauberu. Ipak, očekuje se da će Gotoh odbiti ponudu, jer je u Japanu "neprihvatljivo" da čovek radi isti posao za dve firme koje su direktni konkurenti. Priča se da je Mihael Šumaher razgovarao sa Ronom Denisom i dogovorio da vozi za McLaren 1999. godine. Sa druge strane, neki veruju da je Šumaher smišljeno pustio u promet ovaj trač, kako bi pojačao pritisak na Ferrari da napravi što bolji bolid za sledeću sezonu. Još jedan proizvođač motora izrazio je želju da se uključi u Formulu 1. U pitanju je Krajsler (Chrysler), koji će po svoj prilici već sledeće godine finansijski sponzorisati TWR, a možda u perspektivi i snabdevati motorima ovaj tim. Priča se je BMW angažovao Gerhard Bergera za testiranje njihovog F1 motora. Bavarski proizvođač je već dobio Vilijamsove šasije za testove, tako da ovo može da znači i da se legendarni Austrijanac vraća trkama 1999. godine kao vozač Williams-BMW tima. To je inače u skladu sa Bergerovim najavama da je samo privremeno napustio trke kako bi se posvetio porodici. Na zahtev Mihaela Šumahera, bolidi će sledeće godine na volanu imati tri "fleg" sijalice (žutu, crvenu i plavu) koje će se paliti istovremeno kada i sudije pored staze mašu odgovarajućim zastavama. Na ovaj način biće izbegnuti incidenti sa žutim zastavama, poput onih koje su imali Šumaher i Vilnev.
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Uz poruku je 5 snimaka incidenta između Šumahera i Vilneva (sudar1.jpg je snimak neposredno pred udarac, dok su ostali nekon kontakta). Obratiti pažnju na ugao šumaherovih prednih točova na prvoj slici, kao i na ugao volana ;) sudar.zip
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Novi Svetski šampion na ramenima Kultarda i Hakinena :) winners.jpg
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Mika Hakinen slavi prvu GP pobedu u karijeri :) hakkinen.jpg
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West McLaren-Mercedes tim završio je sezonu 1997. na isti način na koji ju je i započeo - pobedom. Jedina razlika je u tome što je ovaj put Mika Hakinen stao na pobedničko postolje, dok je Dejvid Kultard bio drugi. Mika Hakkinen: "Što više razmišljam o onome što se desilo, više sam srećan i bolje se osećam. Nakon svih uspona i padova ove godine, današnji rezultat je fantastičan." Dejvid Kultard: "Mika je zaslužio ovu pobedu, Žak je zaslužio šampionsku titulu, a ja sam iznad svega srećan što sam završio sezonu na pobedničkom postolju. U prvom delu trke Mika je definitivno bio brži od mene, ali već posle prvog pit-stopa bili smo prilično izjednačeni. Nisam mogao da prođem Fizikelu u Džordanu, pa je tim odlučio da pustim Miku da on proba, što sam i uradio. Moraš imati interes tima u srcu, čak iako vozač u tebi želi još jednu pobedu." Ron Dennis: "Ovo je dan izmešanih osećanja. Srećni smo što je Žak Vilnev osvojio šampionata. Jako samo se trudili da mu ne stojimo na putu ni na koji način, tako da su oba naša vozača žrtvovala svoje performanse i pravu brzinu. Viteštvo i pravi sportski duh koji su danas ispoljili naši vozači je nešto na šta sam ponosan, a to je i pravi način da se završi ova sezona Formule 1. Norbert Haug (Mercedes-Benz): "Svakako da smo imali sreće što Žak Vilnev u poslenjem krugu nije hteo da brani prvu poziciju iako je mogao. Sa druge strane, i zaslužili smo da da jednom imamo sreće, nakon svih pehova koje smo imali. Mika Hakinen je dobio zadovoljenje za sva ona odustajanja, u Velikoj Britaniji, Austriji i Nirburgringu. Dupla pobeda Mike i Dejvida je fantastičan način da se okonča sezona."
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Subj: Zar ste sumnjali ? darth.vader on line :) >> > Shumaheru, kurvo!!! E, i trea da ispadne.. >> Ne mogu da verujem... seljacina je zaista htela da slupa Vilneva... Pa sta vam ja rekoh ljudi... Ja sam to reko jos '94 da je on najveca kurva koja postoji, i da bi trebalo da mu se zabrani voznja u F1 uopste... Ubice nekoga skot jednog dana... See ya, Darth :)
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Šumaher pred kaznom? Mihael Šumaher ipak može snositi sankcije FIA-e, nakon sudara sa Žakom Vilnevom na poslednjoj, odlučujućoj trci. Dvostruki svetski šampion dobio je ultimativni poziv da se pojavi na sadnici saveta Svetske automobilske federacije 11. novembra u Parizu. FIA je saopštila da je ovaj naknadni poziv Šumaheru usledio nakon razmatranja službenog zapisnika koji je priložio direktor trke u Herezu.
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Nije sve tako crno, i ja sam dete sreće ;) Novi svetski šampion, Žak Vilnev, ublažio je kritike na na račun Mihaela Šumahera, koje je izrekao nakon sudara u nedelju. U svojoj izjavi za "BBC Breakfast News" Vilnev je rekao: "Znao sam da je spreman na tako nešto, i ispostavilo se da je to i učinio. Ipak, moram reći da je ovo prvi put ove sezone da smo se nas dvojica borili točak-u-točak. Bar se to nije desilo odmah u prvoj krivini prvog kruga, tako da se sve završilo dobro za mene."
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Mihael Šumaher najavljuje svoju šampionsku titulu za 1998. godinu Mihael Šumaher odbija da komentariše incident sa Vilnevom, ali već najavljuje oštru borbu dogodine. "Sledeće godine želim da se uključim u borbu za titulu već od prve trke, a ne od sredine sezone kao ove godine. Siguran sam da ćemo biti u stanju da to postignemo i da ću šampionat odlučiti pre poslednje trke u sezoni", izjavio je dvostruki Svetski šampion.
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> Valentino Rossi, svetski sampion u motociklizmu u klasi 125cc, kladio se > sa prijateljima da ce prosetati go kroz grad ako Sumaher postane > sampion... ;) Ovaj Cosmico potpisao za Apriliu pa sad misli da je glavni. ;) Btw, ima li Doohan nameru da odluci gde ide? :)
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Pošto se upravo završila sezona, red je da se malo podsetimo statistike :) * * * * * * * * * * - Prvi šampion sveta u Formuli 1 bio je Đuzepe Farina, 1950. godine. - Prvi šampion u kategoriji konstruktora bio je tim Vanwall, 1958. godine, prve godine kada je ova kateogija ustanovljena. - Najuspešniji vozač u istoriji Formule 1 je Huan Manuel Fanđo, koji je osvojio 5 šampionskih titula. Sledi Alan Prost sa 4 titule, od kojih su tri osvojene za McLaren. Po tri titule imaju Džek Brabam, Džeki Stjuart, Niki Lauda, Nelson Pike i Airton Sena. - Najviše trka odvezao je Rikardo Patreze (256), za njim slede Andrea de Cezaris (208), Nelson Pike (204) i Alan Prost (199). - Najviše GP poena osvojio je Alan Prost (798.5), slede Airton Sena (614) i Nelson Pike (485.5). - Najviše pobeda u jednoj sezoni imali su Najdžel Mensel (1992) i Mihael Šumaher (1995), obojica po 9 pobeda. - Najmlađi pobednici jedne trke bili su Brus Meklaren i Troj Ratmen, obojica stari samo 22 godine kada su prvi put stali na pobedničko postolje.
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Svetski šampioni Formule 1 po sezonama: God. Vozač Nac Vozio za tim Odlučeno ------------------------------------------------------------ 1950 G Farina I Alfa Romeo I, 3 Sep 1951 J M Fangio RA Alfa Romeo E, 28 Oct 1952 A Ascari I Ferrari D, 3 Aug 1953 A Ascari I Ferrari CH, 23 Aug 1954 J M Fangio RA Maserati & Mercedes CH, 22 Aug 1955 J M Fangio RA Mercedes Benz I, 11 Sep 1956 J M Fangio RA Ferrari I, 2 Sep 1957 J M Fangio RA Maserati D, 4 Aug 1958 M Hawthorn GB Ferrari MA, 19 Oct 1959 J Brabham AUS Cooper-Climax USA, 12 Dec 1960 J Brabham AUS Cooper-Climax P, 14 Aug 1961 P Hill USA Ferrari I, 10 Sep 1962 G Hill GB BRM ZA, 29 Dec 1963 J Clark GB Lotus-Climax I, 8 Sep 1964 J Surtees GB Ferrari MEX, 25 Aug 1965 J Clark GB Lotus-Climax D, 1 Aug 1966 J Brabham AUS Brabham-Repco I, 4 Sep 1967 D Hulme NZ Brabham-Repco MEX, 22 Oct 1968 G Hill GB Lotus-Ford MEX, 3 Nov 1969 J Stewart GB Matra-Ford I, 7 Sep 1970 J Rindt A Lotus-Ford USA, 4 Oct 1971 J Stewart GB Tyrrell-Ford A, 15 Aug 1972 E Fittipaldi BR Lotus-Ford I, 10 Sep 1973 J Stewart GB Tyrrell-Ford I, 9 Sep 1974 E Fittipaldi BR McLaren-Ford USA, 6 Oct 1975 N Lauda A Ferrari I, 7 Sep 1976 J Hunt GB McLaren-Ford J, 24 Oct 1977 N Lauda A Ferrari USAE, 2 Oct 1978 M Andretti USA Lotus-Ford I, 10 Sep 1979 J Scheckter ZA Ferrari I, 9 Sep 1980 A Jones AUS Williams-Ford CDN, 28 Sep 1981 N Piquet BR Brabham-Ford LV, 17 Oct 1982 K Rosberg SF Williams-Ford LV, 25 Sep 1983 N Piquet BR Brabham-BMW ZA, 15 Oct 1984 N Lauda A McLaren-TAG Porsche P, 21 Oct 1985 A Prost F McLaren-TAG Porsche EUR, 6 Oct 1986 A Prost F McLaren-TAG Porsche AUS, 26 Oct 1987 N Piquet BR Williams-Honda J, 31 Oct 1988 A Senna BR McLaren-Honda J, 30 Oct 1989 A Prost F McLaren-Honda J, 22 Oct 1990 A Senna BR McLaren-Honda J, 21 Oct 1991 A Senna BR McLaren-Honda J, 20 Oct 1992 N Mansell GB Williams-Renault H, 16 Aug 1993 A Prost F Williams-Renault P, 26 Sep 1994 M Schumacher D Benetton-Ford AUS, 13 Nov 1995 M Schumacher D Benetton-Renault PAC, 22 Oct 1996 D Hill GB Williams-Renault J, 13 Oct 1997 J Villeneuve CAN Williams-Renault E, 26 Oct
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Timovi sa najviše vozačkih titula: 1. Ferrari 9 McLaren 9 3. Williams 7 4. Lotus 6 5. Brabham 4 6. Alfa Romeo 2 7. Benetton 2 8. Cooper 2 9. Maserati 2 10. Mercedes-Benz 2 11. Tyrrell 2 12. BRM 1 13. Matra 1
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Šampioni u kategoriji konstruktora, po sezonama: God. Tim Nacija Najviše titula ----------------------------------------- -------------- 1958 Vanwall GB Williams 9 1959 Cooper-Climax GB Ferrari 8 1960 Cooper-Climax GB Lotus 7 1961 Ferrari I McLaren 7 1962 BRM GB Brabham 2 1963 Lotus-Climax GB Cooper 2 1964 Ferrari I Benetton 1 1965 Lotus-Climax GB BRM 1 1966 Brabham-Repco GB/AUS Matra 1 1967 Brabham-Repco GB/AUS Tyrrell 1 1968 Lotus-Ford Cosworth GB Vanwall 1 1969 Matra-Ford Cosworth F/GB 1970 Lotus-Ford Cosworth GB 1971 Tyrrell-Ford Cosworth GB 1972 Lotus-Ford Cosworth GB 1973 Lotus-Ford Cosworth GB 1974 McLaren-Ford Cosworth GB 1975 Ferrari I 1976 Ferrari I 1977 Ferrari I 1978 Lotus-Ford Cosworth GB 1979 Ferrari I 1980 Wiiliams-Ford Cosworth GB 1981 Wiiliams-Ford Cosworth GB 1982 Ferrari I 1983 Ferrari I 1984 McLaren-TAG Porsche GB/D 1985 McLaren-TAG Porsche GB/D 1986 Williams-Honda GB/J 1987 Williams-Honda GB/J 1988 McLaren-Honda GB/J 1989 McLaren-Honda GB/J 1990 McLaren-Honda GB/J 1991 McLaren-Honda GB/J 1992 Williams-Renault GB/F 1993 Williams-Renault GB/F 1994 Williams-Renault GB/F 1995 Benetton-Renault GB/F 1996 Williams-Renault GB/F 1997 Williams-Renault GB/F
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Timovi sa najviše pobeda u jednoj sezoni: 1. McLaren-Honda 15 1988 2. McLaren-TAG Porsche 12 1984 3. Benetton-Renault 11 1995 4. Williams-Renault 11 1996 5. McLaren-Honda 10 1989 6. Williams-Renault 10 1992, 1993
auto-moto.599 nigy, -> #595, obren
> 1951 J M Fangio RA Alfa Romeo E, 28 Oct ^^ Argentina je u pitanju. :)
auto-moto.600 nesha, -> #599, nigy
>> 1951 J M Fangio RA Alfa Romeo E, 28 Oct > ^^ > Argentina je u pitanju. :) Ne, nego je Fandjo u real audio formatu..
auto-moto.601 pecanac,
Slike sa posledenje trke F1 ove sezone: M. Schumacher i G. Berger, jedan do drugog, šetaju se pred trku. :) (724x480x16m) eu_d3_02.jpg
auto-moto.602 obren, -> #599, nigy
>> 1951 J M Fangio RA Alfa Romeo E, 28 Oct > ^^ > Argentina je u pitanju. :) Republika Argentina ;)
auto-moto.603 pecanac,
Nakon starta trke, kolona je na prvoj krivini. Mika i Dejvid ispred Irvajna. (600x458x16m) sueur3l.jpg
auto-moto.604 pecanac,
Mika Hakinen, na treningu u petak. Nije tad ni znao da će pobediti. (600x505x16m) freur4l.jpg
auto-moto.605 pecanac,
Alesi je imao 'ispad' pa na kraju tek 13-to mesto. (724x480x16m) eu_d3_07.jpg
auto-moto.606 pecanac,
Pred trku, svi vozači, zajedno su se 'uslikali' i evo te slike. (600x426x16m) sueur6l.jpg
auto-moto.607 pecanac,
Ferrari svoj sajt još uvek nije 'opremio' svežim slikama sa zadnje trke. Sigurno toliko žale za propuštenom šansom da imaju šampiona u svojim redovima, da je tuga prešla i na momke koji uredjuju sajt. Obično slike budu 'tamo' već ponedeljkom ujutru.
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Mihael Šumaher je priznao svoju krivicu za sudar sa Žakom Vilnevom u Herezu. Šumaher je pretrpeo strahovite kritike povodom svog manevra koji se završio spinom i završetkom trke. Na konferenciji za štampu u sedištu Ferarija, izjavio je da snosi krivicu za incident i dodao: "Napravio sam grešku. Očigledno sam napravio lošu procenu i pogrešan manevar što me je koštalo završetka trke."
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Dejmon Hil apelovao je na čelne ljude Formule 1 da reaguju ako žele da se šampionati Formule 1 ne rešavaju sudarima. Hil je rekao: "Uopšte mi ne pada na pamet da presuđujem ko je kriv za ono u nedelju, ali mislim da postoji ozbiljan problem kredibliteta Formule 1, a mora se postaviti i pitanje koliko je ovo uopšte sport, kada se preko ovakvih incidenata tek tako prelazi? Naravno, uvek će biti sumnjivih situacija, ali sve dok se ništa ne preduzima, ovakvi incidenti će nastaviti da se dešavaju."
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Šumaher je oštro napadnut u medijima, kako u rodnoj Nemačkoj tako i u Italiji, zbog kako se navodi "sramnog poteza" kada je namerno skrenuo u Vilijamsovog vozača na poslednjoj, odlučujućoj trci. Kanađanin, koji je "preživeo" sudar i uspeo da završi trku i osvoji krunu, rekao je za Šumahera da je "stradao od sopstvenog oružja". Na velikoj nagradi Australije, pre tri godine, Šumaher je na sličan način eliminisao Dejmona Hila iz trke i tako sačuvao prednost od jednog poena što mu je donelo šampionsku titulu pod sumnjivim okolnostima, mada Dejmon nije uložio žalbu. Vilnev je u jednom televizijskom intervjuu rekao: "Stradao je od svog oružja. Nemam razloga da se žalim jer je za mene sve dobro ispalo, ali to nije ono što sam želeo niti bih ja ovako nešto uradio. Ovaj slučaj samo pokazuje da je Dejmon stradao na sličan način, ni kriv ni dužan. Kada je ulog suviše velik, lako se desi da instikti nadvladaju razum makar i na par sekundi, i mislim da je to razlog što je Mihael okrenuo volan ka meni." Nemački mediji imali su malo simpatija za čoveka koga inače zovu "heroj" u rodnom Rinelandu. List Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung smatra da se Šumaher koristio manirima "divljeg zapada". U listu se navodi: "Način na koji je naš zemljak pokušao da reši duel sa svojim protivnikom baca loše svetlo za njega". "Imidž finog momka iz komšiluka nepovratno je izgubljen", jadikuje se u "Bildu", najprodavanijem dnevnom listu u Nemačkoj. "Bez sumnje, Šumi je hteo da izgura Vilneva sa staze. Ali Mihaele, za ime Boga, zašto si to uradio?" Čak i mediji u Italiji, iako očajnički žele da Ferari osvoji šampionsku titulu po prvi put nakon 1979, napali su Šumahera. Corriere dello Sport piše: "Vilnev, sada si legenda. Šumaheru, treba da se izviniš." "Šumi, kakva glupost", naslov je u Gezzeti dello Sport, a u tekstu se kaže da je bilo veliko olakšanje kada je Vilnev uspeo da dođe do cilja posle napada, jer je Ferrari zaslužio da zbog ovoga ostane bez titule. Britanski mediji, koji su se okrenuli protiv Šumahera još 1994. godine kada je ostavio bez titule Dejmona Hila, bili su vrlo oštri. Daily Mirror u naslovu ima: "Žak je dao Šumiju ono što njegov trik zaslužuje." Iako umoran nakon proslave šampionske titule, Vilnev je nekoliko sati proveo u davanju intervjua brojnim svetskim TV stanicama. Kanađanin je bio uglavnom diplomatičan u izjavama o svom rivalu, a i posle trke je razgovarao sa Šumaherom, ali bez pomena o incidentu. "Šumaher je odličan vozač", rekao je on. "Ne poznajem ga kao čoveka, već samo kao vozača. Nismo razgovarali o incidentu, obzirom da sam bio u slavljeničkom raspoloženju. Razgovaraćemo o tome kasnije." Ipak, najupečatljivija činjenica jeste da čak i La Stampa, čiji je vlasnik Đani Anjeli koji kontroliše Ferari, tvrdi da je krivica bila do Šumahera. "Šumaherov imidž šampiona se raspršio, kao staklo pogođeno kamenom", kaže se u ovom listu.
auto-moto.611 miko, -> #607, pecanac
> trke. Sigurno toliko zale za propustenom sansom da imaju > sampiona u svojim redovima, da je tuga presla i na momke > koji uredjuju sajt. Ne znam da li ste primetili kada je Jean Todd, gledajuci kako Villeneuve neometano grabi ka tituli, zaplakao ... Sta vise napisati, sem :)))))))))))))))))))))))))
auto-moto.612 giovanni, -> #604, pecanac
Ę? Mika Hakinen, na treningu u petak. Nije tad ni znao da će pobediti. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mislim da to i ne treba da čudi. ;)))))
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Timovi za 1998. sezonu, prema trenutno poznatim podacima: ┌──────────┬─────────────┬───────────────────────┐ │ Team │ Engine │ Driver │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Williams │ Mecachrome │ Jacques Villeneuve │ │ │ │ Heinz-harald Frentzen │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Ferrari │ Ferrari │ Michael Schumacher │ │ │ │ Eddie Irvine │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Benetton │ Mecachrome │ Giancarlo Fisichella │ │ │ │ Alexander Wurz │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ McLaren │ Mercedes │ David Coulthard │ │ │ │ Mika Hakkinen │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Jordan │ Mugen-Honda │ Damon Hill │ │ │ │ Ralph Schumacher │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Prost │ Peugeot │ Olivier Panis │ │ │ │ Jarno Trulli? │ │ │ │ Jos Verstappen? │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Sauber │ Petronas │ Jean Alesi │ │ │ │ Johnny Herbert │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Arrows │ Yamaha │ Mika Salo │ │ │ │ Pedro Diniz │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Stewart │ Ford V10 │ Rubens Barrichello │ │ │ │ Jan Magnussen │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Tyrrell │ Ford V10 │ Jos Verstappen?? │ │ │ │ Toranosuke Takagi │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────┤ │ Minardi │ Ford V10 │ Tarso Marques │ │ │ │ Pedro de la Rosa? │ │ │ │ Shinji Nakano? │ └──────────┴─────────────┴───────────────────────┘
auto-moto.614 mango,
Ralf Sumaher nece nastupati sledece sezone za Jordan jer ide u vojsku. Inace, za one koji nisu znali, u Nemackoj su vojnici placeni!!! (400 maraka mesecno).
auto-moto.615 nesha, -> #614, mango
>Ralf Sumaher nece nastupati sledece sezone za Jordan jer ide u vojsku. Jezivo..
auto-moto.616 miko, -> #614, mango
> Ralf Sumaher nece nastupati sledece sezone za Jordan jer > ide u vojsku. Inace, za one koji nisu znali, u Nemackoj su > vojnici placeni!!! (400 maraka mesecno). Koliko ja znam, ici ce na skraceni kurs, od valjda cetiri meseca, tako da bi trebalo da zavrsi taman pre pocetka sezone.
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Carpentier Released From Team Alumax Contract CART Online (October 30) -- The Team Alumax Reynard Mercedes-Benz will have a new driver for the 1998 CART season after the team announced today that Rookie of the Year Patrick Carpentier has been released from his contract to pursue a ride with another CART team. The announcement was made this morning by Tony Bettenhausen, owner of Bettenhausen Motorsports which campaigned the Team Alumax entry driven by Carpentier in 1997. "We had an exciting season with Patrick," Bettenhausen said. "But I think everyone is in agreement that it (the season) did not come up to our expectations or Patrick's. So after the season ended, we sat down and discussed whether or not a change might be the best thing for everyone concerned." "We came to the conclusion that releasing Patrick would be in order and he was in agreement. This is an amicable parting. We appreciate the effort he gave us in 1997 both on and off the track. We are proud that he won the 'Rookie of the Year' award and he nearly won the St. Louis race for us, in addition to giving us some great runs in other races. He was very popular with our sponsors and their guests as well as the fans. So we thank him for everything and wish him all the best." Although neither Team Alumax nor Carpentier have announced plans for 1998, unofficial reports in the paddock in the second half of this past PPG Cup season had the talented Canadian linked to a second Player's/Forsythe Racing entry alongside the team's primary driver, Greg Moore. Player's/Forsythe, however, has made no announcements about a second race car for next season. "I want to thank Tony and all of the people at Bettenhausen Motorsports and Alumax who made my first season in CART possible," said Carpentier. "It was an honor to be able to win the 'Rookie of the Year' award and because it was my first season in CART, I will always have special memories of my time with Team Alumax and Bettenhausen Motorsports." "They are a terrific team and I wish them well in the future." Carpentier, who won the Player's/Toyota Atlantic Championship in 1996, was chosen over three other rookie drivers and named as driver of the Team Alumax entry in November of last year. He started the first 14 PPG Cup races this past season, but was forced to miss the last three events after being injured in a pair of accidents. His best result came in the Motorola 300 near St. Louis, where he finished a close second to fellow Canadian Paul Tracy after leading 25 laps. He scored points-paying finishes in four other races and led 13 laps in the U.S. 500 before retiring with mechanical problems. He also qualified in the top 10 on four occasions, including Nazareth, where he started third to equal a team record for best starting position. Carpentier finished 17th in the PPG Cup standings with 27 points, enabling him to win the aforementioned Rookie of the Year award.
auto-moto.618 vector, -> #613, obren
> │ Sauber │ Petronas │ Jean Alesi │ Alezi je moj covek za sledecu sezonu - sigurno uzima jednu pobedu. :)
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Rothmans Williams Renault tim dobiće novog sponzora i promeniti boje u sezoni 1998. Rothmans koji je bio sponzor ovog tima od 1994. godine, želi da boja i logotip Williamsa ostanu zapamćeni po dobu apsolutne dominacije ovog tima u Formuli 1. Pošto se Renault povlači iz učešća u Formuli 1, a jasno je da nekoliko novih i jakih timova počinju da izbijaju u prvi plan, kompanija Rothmans će za svaki slučaj ubaciti novu marku cigareta kao sponzora Williamsa. U pitanju su "Winfield" cigarete, koje takođe proizvodi Rothmans, ali koje su crvene boje tako da će najverovatnije i novi Williams biti obojen u nijansama crvene, za razliku od dosadašnje "kraljevske plave" boje. "Ovo su divne novosti za naš tim, nakon izuzetno uspešnog vikenda u Herezu", rekao je Frenk Vilijams, najavljujući promociju izgleda novog bolida za početak sledeće godine.
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Džoni Herbert, na sajmu "Speed & Desing" u Holandiiji, izjavio je da mu se uopšte ne sviđaju novi pneumatici, predviđeni za sledeću sezonu. "To nije ono što bi Formula 1 trebalo da bude", rekao je Englez u intervjuu za jedan holandski časopis. "Kada dolazite pred krivinu vozeći 200km/h morate ubuduće da zakočite do 50km/h da bi je prošli." Herbert se slaže sa Dejmonom Hilom koji je pre izvesnog vremena rekao da "bolidi Formule 1 treba da budu veliki i brzi, impresivni na izgled, a ne maleni, kompaktni autići, sa rezbarenim gumama".
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Na konferenciji za štampu, i Edi Irvajn je dao svoje viđenje incidenta između Mihaela Šumahera i Žaka Vilneva: "Mihael Šumaher je bio u vrlo delikatnoj situaciji", kaže Irvajn. "Znao je da je uhvaćen na prepad u krivini. Vilnev je izveo vrlo optimistički manevar, koji Mihael nije očekivao tako da je reagovao po, mom mišljenju, malo preagresivno. Ponekad instikti prevladaju razum, ali to se dešava." "No, u svakom slučaju, verujem da će uvek biti ovakvih kolizija, i da ovo nije nikakav presedan. Kada je tako mala bodovna razlika u šampionatu, vozač koji je drugi uvek će pokušati da pređe u vođstvo, dok će onaj koji je ispred sve učiniti da odbrani svoju poziciju. Upravo zato što je jako teško obići suparnika u Formuli 1, devet od deset pokušaja završiće se kolizijom. Videli smo to 1994. godine, a evo videli smo i sada." "Međutim, Šumaher je taj koji je pogrešio, jer ono je bila Žakova krivina i Žak je bio ispred njega. Kao što je i krivina u Melburnu bila moja na početku sezone kada me je Vilnev udario. Ja sam bio sa unutrašnje strane i nešto ispred njega, prema tome nema sumnje da je to bila moja krivina. Ovoga puta, u Herezu je Vilnev imao svoju krivinu, i tu ništa ne sporim." "Ipak, čini mi se da je Vilnev malo prebrzo ušao u skretanje tako da mislim da bi došlo do kolizije i da ga Šumaher nije udario. Jednostavno bi morao da ode preširoko da bi prešao krivinu i tada bi najverovatnije on zakačio Šumahera." Na pitanje da li je planirana neka taktika poput one u Japanu, Irac je odgovorio: "Nismo imali nikakvu timsku taktiku. Loše sam se kvalifikovao, tek na sedmo mesto, tako da nisam mogao biti od neke pomoći. Vozio sam iza dva Meklarena, umesto ispred njih."
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Louis Schweitzer, predsednik Renoa, bio ja prisutan na trci u Herezu kako bi proslavio poslednji Renoov trijumf pred najavljeno povlačenje iz Formule 1. "Renault-Sport tim je pokazao još jednom da je najbolji na svetu. Čast nam je da smo omogućili jednom briljantnom vozaču da danas postane Svetski šampion", rekao je Švajcer. Patrick Faure, predsedik Reno-sporta, bio je veoma srećan dok je sumirao učinak Renoa u proteklim godinama: "Nismo mogli ni da sanjamo bolje finale, jer cela trka je bila ekstremno zanimljiva. Šta reći više o Reno-sportu: u proteklih šest godina osvojili smo 11 od mogućih 12 titula, i ja sam veoma ponosan na moje ljude." Iako se Reno, kako oni kažu "privremeno", povlači iz Formula 1, njihov motor preuzeće poznati francuski trjuner "Mecachrome" mada nije izvesno sa kojim uspehom će ovaj izuzetni motor moći da se nosi sa konkurencijom narednih godina.
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Olivije Panis završio je kao sedmoplasirani poslednju trku ove sezone, nakon neočekivano brzog oporavka posle teške nesreće u Kanadi, kada je zaradio otvorene prelome obe noge. "Još jedno smo, iako bez pomoći elektronike kod startovanja koju imaju drugi timovi, uspeli da od niskobudžetnog tima postanemo jedan od perspektivnijih timova u Formuli 1", rekao je Panis. "Danas sam katastrofalno startovao tako da sam izgubio 5 mesta na startu. Znao sam da ću zato provesti dobar deo trke u savlađivanju gužve i sporijih vozača. Ipak dao sam sve od sebe tako da sam uspeo da prestignem Diniza i Alezija u osmom krugu. Ali sredinom trke, drugi set guma je izuzetno brzo uništen tako da sam morao da smanjim tempo te nisam uspeo da prođem Baričela." "Nakon sjajnog početka sezone, stigao sam do trećeg mesta u šampionatu vozača, ali onda je došla nesreća u Kanadi. Bilo je jako teško vratiti se u formu, kako fizički tako i psihički, što je jako bitno za uspešan završetak trke. U svakom slučaju, očekuje nas interesantna sezona 1998. tako da ću svu svoju energiju utrošiti da se kvalitetno pripremim za start novog šampionata." "Na kraju, želim da se zahvalim Mugen-Hondi sa izuzetnu saradnju koju smo imali proteklih godina. Uvek su bili veliki profesionalci, ostaće mi u sećanju sjajnim momentima koje smo doživeli. Naravno, kruna naše saradnje, koju ću uvek pamtiti, jeste moja pobedu u Monaku."
auto-moto.624 obren, -> #618, vector
> > │ Sauber │ Petronas │ Jean Alesi │ > > Alezi je moj covek za sledecu sezonu - sigurno uzima jednu pobedu. :) Moj čovek je kao i uvek Hill, još će sad imati i šta da vozi :)