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18 Jun 1994 - 11 Oct 1994

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Messages - misterije

misterije.101 vgenije, -> #93, dares
> Piramide, fakat, djeluju. Neki nas covjek napravio silos u > obliku piramide i pokupio gomilu nekih nagrada (i para, nadam > se). Meni se cini da piramidu nalig na one egipatske do danas jos niko nije uspeo da napravi .U knjizi erika van l. kaze da kad bi se stiglo pred kraj suncevi zraci treba da se prelamaju pod ne znam kojim uglom ,ovo,ono a to izaziva KAP.Ne znam dali je to tascno ali tako pise
misterije.102 amarilis, -> #99, dr.grba
ť Pa sad ti vidi da li limunovom drvcetu smeta promaja i da li mu ť je toplije ispod pleksiglasa i da li mu ta toplota prija (: Limunovi nisu bili na suncu a temperature su bile iste(mereno!).Sto se promaje tice ona smeta limunu i hoce cesto da odbaci listove!
misterije.103 dr.grba, -> #102, amarilis
>> Limunovi nisu bili na suncu a temperature su bile iste(mereno!).Sto se Temperatura merena negde u prostoriji ili tik uz list biljke, ispod pleksiglasa?
misterije.106 cobra, -> #68, ognjen
<> BTW, isti traje valjda dva dana (cela dana) i kosta 100 dm. :( <> Prilicno skupo, ali on (cobra) tvrdi da bi se i <> duplo isplatilo... Ma, sta je pricam kad nisam bio tamo, <> davite malo njega. :) Evo malo sa zakašnjenjem, ne stignem da pratim sve po redu :(. Prvo, kurs ne bi (bar po mom mišljenju) trebalo biti toliko skup. Mogao bi biti jeftiniji, jer je i sam SILVA metod definisan kao put, način duhovnog razvoja čoveka, metod kontrole uma posvećen celom čovečanstvu. Međutim, ja sam se odrekao nekoh stvari i rešio da idem. Nisam se pokajao. Silva metod organizuje prethodna znanja o samom sebi, utiskuje neka nova, i pomaže u organizaciji sopstvenog uma da deluje kao jednistvena celina, dakle uključivši oba važna činioca ljudskog uma: logički, racionalan,subjektivni deo i onaj intuitivni, podsvesni, objektivni. To se čini sve preko jednostavnih mentalnih tehnika koje koriste prirodne osobine uma: viuzelizaciju i imaginaciju, moćno "oružije" u duhovnom razvoju kada se koristi. Većina mentalnih tehnika i sam smisao Silva metoda je ulazak, odnosno veština ovladavanja višim nivoima svesti. U stvari, radi se o nižim moždanim frekvencijama koje se ne koriste, a čijeg blagotvornog dejstva nismo ni svesni. Postoje 4 osnovne vrste moždanih talsa: alfa, beta, delta i teta. Većinu vremena u budnom stanju provodimo u beti, koja btw ima i najveću frekvenciju: od 16-21 Hz. Alfa je niže, zatim ide delta pa teta, potpuno nesvesno stanje. U snu provodimo vreme na 3 frekvencije: alfa, delta i teta, koje se stalno izmenjuju. Sada će neko da pita: -kakve veze ima to sa Silva metodom? Ima. Silva metod upravo osposobljuje i uči kako ovladati nižim frekvencijama, nivoima svesti koji su uglavnom dostupni samo u snu većini ljudi. Na taj način se učvršćuje veza sa podsvesnim delom, jer što se dublje ide u moždanim talasima to je jači uticaj podsvesnog, tako da jače i brže možemo utisnuti informacije u podsvesni deo. Svaki dan treba da postane navika, ovladavanje podsvesnog i svesnog. To je ono "vežbanje". To je neka vrsta aktivne meditacije u kojoj se kompletiramo kao ličnosti. Problemi nestaju kada se suočimo sa njima i na ovaj način počinjemo da ih rešavamo. Tako, kombinujući podsvest i svest, racio i intuiciju, možemo biti kompletna ličnost koja ide stazom duhovnog sazrevanja. Samo tako. Silva metod pokazuje put ka tome. Dobar put. Na nama je da, ako imamo smelosti, bez ikakvih predrasuda zakoračimo njime. Samo, nije ništa na NJIMA. Sve je na nama. Sam osećaj biti na kursu je fantastičan: 100-200 ljudi sede u jednoj sali, puni energije, bez predrasuda. Strujanje tog raspoloženja oseća se sve vreme, tako da je teško biti nesrećan, depresivan ili tužan. Ipak, mislim da bi se cela ta metoda mogla još mnogo više usavršiti, a i mogla bi se bogme smanjiti cena :)). Inače, sama metoda je nastala kao proizvod dugogodišnjeg istraživanja Hosea Silve, psihologa iz Meksika po kome je metod i dobio ime. Ja ne mogu reći sve(ima dosta toga) a ne mogu reći ni najbolje, jer ima mnogo kompetentnijih i iskusnijih ljudi od mene za to. Međutim, najbolje ćete videti šta je to Silva metod i koje su njegove prednosti i mane ako odete na uvodno predavanje. Održavaju se jednom mesečno, ulaz besplatan. Kada jednom završite kurs, možete ga bezbroj puta obnavljati. Beograd, uvodna predavanja: 04.10. u 19h 01.05. u 19h Sava Centar (mislim da je Anex A sala) 06.12 u 19h VLADA P.S. " Da bismo upoznali svet mi ne samo da treba da ga ispitujemo, već da istovremeno ispitujemo i onoga ko ga ispituje." S. Pek, "Put kojim se ređe ide" PPS BTW, ne znam zašto je Silva metod misterija :).
misterije.107 mikis, -> #98, dcolak
+> Pričaj ti šta 'oćeš, ja pronađoh vodu na svom placu uz pomoć rašlji! +> :)) Hm,, priča se da je ovde kod mene u šumi zakopano nekakvo blago, možda bi mogao da pomogneš? ;))) p.s. A tek naftve bušotine... :)))
misterije.108 dr.grba, -> #106, cobra
>> Ipak, mislim da bi se cela ta metoda mogla još mnogo više >> usavršiti, a i mogla bi se bogme smanjiti cena :)). A kolika je ona?
misterije.109 pyramid, -> #106, cobra
******** sama metoda je nastala kao proizvod dugogodisnjeg istrazivanja Hosea Silve, psihologa iz Meksika po kome je m etod i dobio ime. ******** Ovo je verzija koja se moze cuti samo na predavanjima sledbenika doticnog gospodina.
misterije.110 amarilis, -> #103, dr.grba
ť Temperatura merena negde u prostoriji ili tik uz list biljke, ť ispod pleksiglasa? Ispod "kapice"-piramide dakle temp. uz list.
misterije.111 dr.grba, -> #110, amarilis
>> ť Temperatura merena negde u prostoriji ili tik uz list biljke, >> ť ispod pleksiglasa? >> >> Ispod "kapice"-piramide dakle temp. uz list. Dakle, nema druge nego da nisu čista posla (((:
misterije.112 ognjen, -> #100, drndi
)-> Sorry, nisam u toku, koje sa ziletom? Kupis zilet. Brijes se sve dok ne pocne da te cupa (istupi se). Napravis piramudu odredjenih proporcija dimenzija (oblik keopsove). Stavis istupljni zilet na 1/3 visine piramide, i sutra se opet brijes... :) Tako bar kazu - probaj!
misterije.113 ognjen, -> #106, cobra
)-> 04.10. u 19h )-> 01.05. u 19h !!! )-> 06.12 u 19h Ovde si nesto zabrljao?!? Kad ima predavanje u septembru?
misterije.114 ognjen, -> #109, pyramid
)-> > sama metoda je nastala kao proizvod dugogodisnjeg istrazi- )-> > vanja Hosea Silve, psihologa iz Meksika po kome je metod i )-> > dobio ime. )-> Ovo je verzija koja se moze cuti samo na predavanjima )-> sledbenika doticnog gospodina. A zar postoji jos neko ko predaje to? Kako se to zove Pera Metod? (Ne, ne zezam se, ja mislim da je Silva jedini koji radi sa 'tom vrstom posla'.)
misterije.115 pyramid, -> #114, ognjen
PY> A zar postoji jos neko ko predaje to? Kako se to zove PY> Pera Metod? (Ne, ne zezam se, ja mislim da je Silva jedini PY> koji radi sa 'tom vrstom posla'.) Postoje mnogi... Npr. profesori svih svetskih univerziteta... ;) Silva metod je nastao skupljanjem svih stvari koje je Silva smata "stvarima koje poboljsavaju zivot" (i koje se uzgred mogu lakse komercijalizovati) iz recimo jedne dobre knjige o hipnozi (ili recimo iz knjiga o psihologiji/psihijatriji) i oblikovo to u metod koji ce "obicnim ljudima omoguciti da postanu geniji" - tako je rekao Silva, a ja to citam kao - prezaposlenim prosecnim amerima koji su uzgred polupismeni pa ne mogu otici do biblioteke, ljudima koji samokontrolu svrstavaju u misterije i ostalima koji vole ici linijom manjeg otpora treba napraviti kurs na koji ce otici, dobiti precizna uputstva sta i kako i verujuci u svu misteriju metoda poceti da razmisljaju. Naravno, ako zbog ovoga sto sam napisao mislis da mrzim, nipodastavam efekat Silva metoda, varas se. To je odlicna, stvar. Ali ono sto hocu reci, 190 din je mnogo vise od uclanjenja u biblioteku na godinu dana. A, sada neki primeri. Postoji "tehnika case vode" (mislim da ju je tako nazvao) za ulazak u teta nivo. To je najklasicniji i najjednostavniji nacin hipnoze. Zatim ulazak u alfa nivo. Najjednostavniji ulazak u alfa nivo je leci na krevet i opustiti se. Vec si u alfi. Medjutim veliki broj ljudi nije svestan moci autosugestije. Zato mi se veoma svidja izum sa metodima IMR (za one koji ne znaju - idealno mesto za relaksaciju ) i tehnike za ulazak u alfa nivo, npr. brojanje od 3 do 1 (?!). One sluze samo da ubede ljude da su u nekom drugom stanju od "normalnog" i da ce im se sve zelje ispuniti (povecanje samopouzdanja). Tu su naravno i veoma poznate tehnike sugestije: efekat sale i postepene relaksacije (to je ono sto kazes da je osecaj pri ucestvovanju na silva metodu. Inace, isti metod koristi se u crkvama (seti se samo onih crnackih jazz-molitvi iz raznih filmova)), zatim audio sugestija - vibrato i mars ritam brzine otkucaja srca (i ovo je veeeooomaa poznato i rasireno - vibrato je tehnika koju svi gitaristi znaju - vibracija zvuka. Nju je podesno raditi na oko 4-14 Hz (mozdani talasi). Gde se sve upotrebljavalo - setite se samo nase himne - Mars na drinu. Mars ritam brzine oko 48 otkucaja u minutu, vibrato sa violinom i tekst - u boj krenite junaci svi, krente i ne zal'te zivot svoj...) Savetujem svima da malo vise posecuju biblioteke. Mnoge knjige su napisane veoma lepo, samo ih treba procitati...
misterije.116 pyramid, -> #115, pyramid
Zaboravio sam da napisem u vezi metode audio sugestije za one koji nisu posecivali doticni kurs - sve vreme kursa pustaju se kasete (koje se naravno na licu mesta mogu i kupiti) sa samo dva kontinualna zvuka - vibrato i kuckanje u ritmu otkucaja srca.....
misterije.117 drndi, -> #112, ognjen
>> Kupis zilet. Brijes se sve dok ne pocne da te cupa (istupi >> se). Napravis piramudu odredjenih proporcija dimenzija (oblik >> keopsove). Stavis istupljni zilet na 1/3 visine piramide, i sutra >> se opet brijes... :) Tako bar kazu - probaj! >> >> E da znas da cu da probam, btw. od cega mogu da napravim piramidu? I koje su stvarne dimenzije keopsove?
misterije.118 amarilis, -> #111, dr.grba
ť Dakle, nema druge nego da nisu cista posla (((: Imam jednu teoriju(bar pocetak ;>) koju cu pokusati da proverim,pa ako upali...
misterije.119 mikis, -> #117, drndi
+> E da znas da cu da probam, btw. od cega mogu da napravim piramidu? Navodno, od čega god hoćeš (karon, papir, šper-ploča...). +> I koje su stvarne dimenzije keopsove? Pre par dana sam okačio proporcije, neko drugi će morati da ti kaže koje su stvarne dimenzije :)
misterije.120 hercog,
Evo mene opet u ovoj temi. Sale
misterije.121 ognjen, -> #117, drndi
)-> E da znas da cu da probam, btw. od cega mogu da napravim )-> piramidu? Mozes od cega hoces. Materijal nije bitan. )-> I koje su stvarne dimenzije keopsove? E, bas sam neki dan pisao o tome. Mislim da je 143 metra visine i valjda 200 i nesto metara duzine / sirine.
misterije.122 cnenad,
Da li je tačno da postoji dogovor između svih svetskih vlada da bilo koji oblik vanzemaljskog života koji eventualno dospe do nas bude odmah uništen ? Da li je ovo po vama ispravno, ako je tačno ?
misterije.123 ognjen, -> #122, cnenad
)-> Da li je tacno da postoji dogovor izmedu svih svetskih vlada )-> da bilo koji oblik vanzemaljskog zivota koji eventualno dospe )-> do nas bude odmah unisten ? I ti si gledao 'X Files'? :) Ne, to su gluposti koje su pale na pamet tupavom scenaristi.
misterije.124 kriss, -> #122, cnenad
˙˙ Da li je tačno da postoji dogovor između svih svetskih vlada ˙˙ da bilo koji oblik vanzemaljskog života koji eventualno dospe ˙˙ do nas bude odmah uništen ? ˙˙ ˙˙ Da li je ovo po vama ispravno, ako je tačno ? Ispravmo po meni nije, ali "logike" sigurno da ima. Ovaj je sagrađen na kapitalu i novcu, i retko ko bi dozvolio da se sve to najednom sruši. (Dobra) kola na sunčev pogon, struju i razna ne-štetna i visokokalorična goriva su odavno izmišljena, ali se ne probijaju. Naftna industrija je ipak gigant. :)
misterije.125 alien, -> #122, cnenad
[] Da li je tačno da postoji dogovor između svih svetskih vlada da bilo [] koji oblik vanzemaljskog života koji eventualno dospe do nas bude odmah [] uništen ? Ne.
misterije.126 cnenad, -> #123, ognjen
ŁŁŁ I ti si gledao 'X Files'? :) Ne, to su gluposti koje su pale ŁŁŁ na pamet tupavom scenaristi. Da, baš sam tamo to i čuo :)
misterije.127 cnenad, -> #124, kriss
ŁŁŁ Ispravmo po meni nije, ali "logike" sigurno da ima. Ovaj je sagrađen Pazi, normalno je da ćemo štiti ovaj svet, ali...kao što kažeš ispravno nije. Međutim šta ako navuku neku boleščinu od koje se ne možemo odbraniti a veoma je opasna, dakle smrtonosna i veoma efikasna (kao da nam nije dosta SIDE, RAK-a, evo opet Kolera i Kuga). S druge strane, ipak je to ubistvo koje može prouzrokovati eventualnu odmazdu...(jer je 'mali zeleni' možda bio u nevolji...)
misterije.128 cnenad, -> #125, alien
ŁŁŁ Ne. Dobro, a zašto se onda zataškavaju raznorazni slučajevi bliskih susreta ili sakrivaju dokazi ? Da li verujete 'svedocima' i otetim ljudima čiji su događaji ispričani u detalje pod hipnozom, pod kojom osoba ne može lagati ?
misterije.129 dejanr, -> #122, cnenad
>> Da li je tačno da postoji dogovor između svih svetskih vlada da bilo >> koji oblik vanzemaljskog života koji eventualno dospe do nas bude odmah >> uništen ? Kada bi takav dogovor postojao (a sasvim sigurno ne postoji, iz više razloga, a pre svega iz razloga što se sve svetske vlade ne mogu dogovoriti apsolutno ni o čemu :) to bi bio takav idiotizam da se ne bi mogao opisati rečima. A, osim toga, ne verujem da bi taj život, opremljen tehnologijom koja ga je "dobacila" do Zemlje, baš tako lako dozvolio da ga unište ;)
misterije.130 dejanr, -> #128, cnenad
>> Da li verujete 'svedocima' i otetim ljudima čiji su >> događaji ispričani u detalje pod hipnozom, pod kojom osoba ne može >> lagati ? Prvo, čovekova psiha je suviše komplikovana da bi se tek tako moglo reći da se pod hipnozom ne može lagati. Drugo, sve i da je tako, šta znači lagati? Govoriti svesno neistinu? Može neko stvarno da veruje da mu se desilo to-i-to, a u stvari mu se desilo nešto sasvim deseto. Nije da nema neobjašnjenih slučajeva, i nije da se o njima knjige ne pišu, ali na svaki neobjašnjeni dođu po hiljade objašnjenih ili isfoliranih. Uvek se vredi setiti Denikena, koji je totalno raskrinkan kao prevarant. A umeo je da zvuči ubedljivo :)
misterije.131 kriss, -> #129, dejanr
˙˙ A, osim toga, ne verujem da bi taj život, opremljen ˙˙ tehnologijom koja ga je "dobacila" do Zemlje, baš tako lako ˙˙ dozvolio da ga unište ;) Ko zna, tu logika već prestaje. Zašto ne bi bilo moguće da se storenja odakle dolaze ne uništavaju, i da su sve svoje kapacitete usmerili ka nauci i tehnici? Gde bi samo čovečanstvu bio kraj da se latio oružja i uložio u isto ...
misterije.132 drndi,
MAJIC-12.DOC Page:1 OPERATION MAJORITY FINAL RELEASE THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE (C) - COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER ALL RIGHTS RESERVED YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS RELEASES, PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES. INCLUSION IN ANY OTHER MEDIA REQUIRES MY EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION. This file contain the absolute true information regarding the alien presence on earth and the US Governments involvement with the aliens. This file contains only the information as I saw it and only my information. It does not contain any information from any other source. It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to this release in a manner which would deceive the Government until someone was able to independently confirm my identity, my employment, my service record, my intelligence background, the identity of the person to which I gave the information to in 1972, his acknowledgment of the information and when it was given to him, that the information is correct, that I have not seen him since 1974, and that I have not communicated with him in any form since 1976. This was necessary because this file is my death warrant if MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its history. All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2 different people who have no connection with each other. I will only list one for obvious reasons. Tony Pelham, Journalist Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspaper) 300 West Boston Las Vegas, Nevada 89102 The original information that I first released was not much different than what you will find here. Only some names were different and just enough (I hoped) to convince MJ-12 and MAJI that I was not a threat long enough to have independent verification of the facts before I risked death. I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not consider myself a hero. I believe that most of you would do the same thing if you knew the truth. I gave an oath that I would uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States of America and I take that oath very seriously. I am doing no more now than I did when I fought in Vietnam. I am doing my duty. Please make copies of this file and send it to your Congressman, MAJIC-12.DOC Page:2 your Senator, the Attorney General of the United States, and to the Supreme Court. Send it also to everyone you know. Attach copies of the Bill English file and John Lears file. Send anything else you may have which tends to support this information. I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, California, 92632, (714) 680-9537, do solemnly swear that the information contained in this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge. I swear that I saw this information in 1972 in the performance of my duties as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander In Chief of the Pacific Fleet as a Petty Officer in the US Navy. I swear that I underwent hypnotic regression in order to make the information as accurate as possible. I swear that I can and will take a lie detector test or any other test by any reputable persons choosing in order to confirm thisinformation. I swear that I can and will undergo hypnotic regression conducted by any reputable and qualified Doctor of any reputable persons choosing in order to confirm this information. I will not, however submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone who is now or has ever been connected with the Government in any capacity for obvious reasons. The following is brief listing of everything that I personally saw and know from 1972 and does not contain any input from any other source whatsoever. "MAJESTY" was listed as the code word for the President of the United States for communications concerning this information. "OPERATION MAJORITY" is the name of the operation responsible for every aspect, project and consequence of alien presence on earth. "GRUDGE" Contains sixteen volumes of documented information collected from the beginning of the United States investigation of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Craft (IAC). The project was funded by CIA confidential funds (non-appropriated) and money from the illicit drug trade. Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect all scientific, technological, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and contacts with alien life forms. This orderly file of collected information has been used to advance the United States Space Program. "MJ-12" is the name of the secret control group. President Dwight D. Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of the alien question. The society was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were designated MJ-12. MJ-12 has total control of everything. They are designated by the code J-1, J-2, J-3, etc. all the way through the members of the JASON SOCIETY. The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director of MJ-12. MJ-12 is responsible only to the President. MAJIC-12.DOC Page:3 MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade. This was done to hide funding and thus keep the secret from the Congress and the people of the United States. It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher than anything you can imagine. MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them that he was going to tell the public all the facts of the alien presence. He was killed by the Secret Service agent driving his car and it is plainly visible in the film held from public view. A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it is described as being accessible only by air. It contains full living, recreational and other facilities for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY. It is code-named "THE COUNTRY CLUB". Only those persons with a TOP SECRET/MAJIC security clearance are allowed to go there. "MAJI" is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. All infor- mation, disinformation, and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this agency . This agency is responsible for all disinformation and operates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence Agency. This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects are under its control. MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12. "SIGMA" is the project which first established communications with the aliens and is still responsible for communications. "PLATO" is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with the aliens. This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under the Constitution) with the aliens. The terms were that the aliens would give us technology. In return "we" agreed to keep their presence on earth a secret, not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to allow them to abduct humans and animals. The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of abductees on a periodic basis. "MAJIC" is the security classification and clearance of all alien-connected material, projects and information. "MAJIC" means MAJI Controlled. "AQUARIUS" is a project which compiled the history of alien presence and their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this planet for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque people who live in the mountainous country on the border of France, Spain and the Syrians. "GARNET" is the project responsible for control of all infor- mation and documents regarding this subject and accountability of the information and these documents. "PLUTO" is a project to evaluate all UFO/IAC information pertaining to space technology. "POUNCE" is the project formed to recover all downed/crashed craft and aliens. MAJIC-12.DOC Page:4 "REDLIGHT" is the project to test-fly recovered alien craft. It is conducted at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada. It was aided when the aliens gave us craft and helped us fly them. The initial pro- ject was somewhat successful in that we flew a recovered craft but it blew up in the air and the pilots were killed. The project was sus- pended at that time until the aliens agreed to help us. "SNOWBIRD" was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT. Several flying saucer-type craft were built using conventional technology. They were unveiled to the press and flown in front of the press. The purpose was to explain accidental sightings or disclosure of REDLIGHT as having been the SNOWBIRD craft. "LUNA" is the alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo Astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines and the very large alien craft which have been described in various sighting reports as "MOTHER SHIPS" are based there. "NRO" is the National Reconnaissance Organization based at Fort Carson, Colorado. It is responsible for security for all alien or alien craft connected projects. "DELTA" is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which is especially trained and tasked with security of these projects. [The so-called "Delta Force" has been labelled by the government [in media reports] as an anti-terrorist special combat unit. It apparently has other, covert responsibilities. This would also seem to tie in all too neatly with the "contingency plans" listed below. =CSW.] "JOSHUA" is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound generating weapon. It was said that this weapon would be effective against the alien craft and beam weapons. [NOTE: It is known that a special experimental project was launched some years ago under the auspices of the US Navy to investigate a special low frequency, pulsed sound and radio wave system. The antennae for such a system consisted of buried cables that extended radially for several hundred miles in all directions from the generator site. The listed purpose of these experiments was to develop a system of communications that could be used with our submarines world-wide that could neither be detected by anyone not having this specific equipment nor jammed by any conventional source known to current technology. This may or may not have been a "cover story". It is equally interesting to note that while this "national secret" was being printed in certain "popular" monthly mechanical and science magazines, articles appeared in several of the more serious scientific journals concerning experiments with a sound-wave generating weapon that operates in the 4 to 13 Hertz range that could be fatal to "enemy troops"...perhaps reducing them, quite literally, to a mass of quivering jelly. =CSW.] "EXCALIBUR" is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases. MAJIC-12.DOC Page:5 It is to be a missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters of Tufa or hard-packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no opera- tional damage. Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must not deviate in excess of 50 meters from designated target. The device will carry a 1 megaton nuclear warhead. "ALIENS": There were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers. A LARGE-NOSED GREY, with whom "we" have the treaty, the GREY reported in abductee cases that works for the LARGE-NOSED GREY, a blond human like type described as the NORDIC and a red-haired, human-like type called the ORANGE. The home planets of the aliens are described as being a star in the Constellation of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1&2. I cannot remember even under hypnosis which aliens belong to which star. "EBE" is the name or designation given to the live alien captured at the 1949 Roswell crash. He died in captivity. "KRLL" OR "KRLLL" OR "CRLL" OR "CRLLL" pronounced Crill or Krill was the hostage left with us at the first Holloman landing as a pledge that the aliens would carry out their part of the basic agreement reached during that meeting. KRLL gave us the foundation of the yellow book which was completed by the guests at a later date. KRLL became sick and was nursed by Dr. G. Mendoza, who became the expert on alien biology and medicine. KRLL later died. His information was disseminated under the pseudonym O.H. Cril or Crill. "GUESTS" were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the balance of the yellow book. At the time I saw the information there were only 3 left alive. They were called (ALF's) Alien Life Forms. RELIGION: The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through hybridization. The papers said that RH Negative blood was proof of this. They further claimed to have created all of our major religions. The showed a hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which the Government filmed. They claim that JESUS, the CHRIST, was created by them. ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada. Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on Indian reservations and all in the four corners area. The base near Dulce was one of them. MURDER: The documents stated that many military and government personnel had been terminated (murdered; executed without due process of law) when they had attempted to reveal the secret of the aliens, the JASON SOCIETY and MJ-12. [NOTE: Any adult human being who lives in today's society and who still does not believe that "Our Government" would commit cold-blooded murder in order to preserve their idea of an acceptable "status quo"....that person should be placed in a secured, well-padded cell and not allowed to play with pointed or sharp objects. He/she is both intellectually and morally Brain Dead. As an example, does any sane person really believe that Karen Silkwood died in an auto "accident" ? =CSW] MAJIC-12.DOC Page:6 CRAFT RECOVERIES: The documents stated that many craft had been recovered. The early ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas, Mexico, and other places. GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have to reckon with the aliens and the document stated that it appeared that General Doolittle was correct. ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972. The document stated that humans and animals were being abducted and/or mutilated. Many vanished without a trace. They were taking sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed surgical operations, implanted a spherical device 40 to 80 microns in size near the optic nerve in the brain and all attempts to remove it resulted in the death of the patient. The document estimated that 1 in every 40 people had been implanted. This implant was said to give the aliens total control of that human. CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR SHOULD THE ALIENS ATTEMPT TAKEOVER: This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist group had entered the United States with an Atomic weapon. It would be announced that the terrorists planned to detonate the weapon in a major city. Martial Law would be declared and all persons with implants would be rounded up along with all dissidents and would be placed into concentration camps. The press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled. Anyone attempting to resist would be arrested and/or killed. CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION: This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disinformation ploy to delay and confuse the release of information should anyone get close to the truth. It [the name, "MAJESTIC TWELVE"] was selected because of the similarity of spelling and the similarity to MJ-12. It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a fruitless search for material which did not exist. SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW: The source of the material was an ONI Counter-Intelligence operation against MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find out the truth of what was really going on. The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I worked for) was not a participant in any of this. The different services and the government conduct this type of operation against each other all the time. The result of this operation was that the Navy cut themselves in for a piece of the action (technology) and control of some projects. As you can see, this file is only a little different from my previous file. Only some names were scrambled previously to confuse the government long enough for someone to verify that what I have said is the truth. I have added information in this file that puts my life in absolute danger. I have sent a copy of this file to MAJIC-12.DOC Page:7 people all over the country and will continue to do so. Please get this file into as many hands as you can and maybe that will protect me but I doubt it. HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION AND I HAVE NO FEAR OF THAT JUDGEMENT. I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching this point and for their patience and understanding. I owe you all more than I can ever repay. Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or if a project name is in the wrong place. It does not matter who is working for who or what is really what. It should be obvious by now that something sinister and terribly wrong is going on involving the government and the UFO phenomenon. We must all band together and expose it now. I have done my part in the best manner that I could. I can add nothing else except my testimony in Congress or a court of law that what I saw and have written in this file is true and that I saw it. Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and some of it is from sources and research. You may combine the files to get the entire picture. Throw out only that information which conflicts with that contained in this file. There will be no further additions or corrections to this information either now or in the future. My file is complete and stands to be judged by history. Sometime in the future the exact papers that I saw will surface and you will all see this exact information contained within them. Milton William Cooper NOTE: When originally downloaded, this file was somewhat "hashed" by electronic telephone interference. It has been recon- structed, word for word, and re-formatted to facilitate easy reading. To the best of my knowledge and ability, not one word has been changed in the original text. However, from time to time I have added comments from my own observation and knowledge. These comments have been placed in brackets to indicate that the comments/observations are my own. The original author of this document, Mr. Milton William Cooper, is in no way responsible for these comments or observatioons. ENDIT=[CSW]
misterije.133 severian, -> #132, drndi
> > OPERATION MAJORITY > > FINAL RELEASE > THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE Odale ti ovo? Liči na scenario nekog dobrog trilera...
misterije.134 drndi, -> #133, severian
>> Odale ti ovo? Lici na scenario nekog dobrog trilera... ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Malo je teze objasniti poreklo, ali recimo da je sa jednog anarchy CD-a iz direktorijuma MJ12. Ne, ja nemam taj CD niti znam ikoga ko ga ima. Inace imam jos toga pa ako jos nekoga interesuje....
misterije.135 cobra, -> #122, cnenad
<> Da li je tačno da postoji dogovor između svih svetskih vlada <> da bilo koji oblik vanzemaljskog života koji eventualno dospe <> do nas bude odmah uništen ? Ne verujem, to je više ona priča o velikoj svetskoj zaveri, ali da je moguće da vlade raznih zemalja prikrivaju činjenice (posebno američka), moguće je.
misterije.136 vgenije, -> #122, cnenad
> Da li je tacno da postoji dogovor izmedu svih svetskih vlada da > bilo koji oblik vanzemaljskog zivota koji eventualno dospe do > nas bude odmah unisten ? > > Da li je ovo po vama ispravno, ako je tacno ? Logike nema da bude tacno.Mada iz neke litarature sam citao da se u wasingtonu nalazi ostatrak nekog svemirskog broda ali da se o njemumalo prica.Stvar je dotle dosla da o njoj znaju samo predsednici usa a mnogi od njih su je i u grob poneli Koliko je to tacno ne znam.Dali jos nekoima neku slicnu informaciju?
misterije.137 stigor, -> #134, drndi
> iz direktorijuma MJ12. Ne, ja nemam taj CD niti znam ikoga ko > ga ima. Inace imam jos toga pa ako jos nekoga interesuje.... Obavezno šalji! ...
misterije.138 stigor, -> #136, vgenije
> Logike nema da bude tacno.Mada iz neke litarature sam citao da > se u wasingtonu nalazi ostatrak nekog svemirskog broda ali da > se o njemumalo prica.Stvar je Najčešće pominjani "ostaci" nekog broda su oni iz Baze Edvards ... Pad NLOa se dogodio 1945. godine u sred putoši, posle nekoliko meseci na tom mestu je iznikla vojna baza ...
misterije.140 inferno, -> #122, cnenad
Ů│ ˙ Da li je tačno da postoji dogovor između svih svetskih vlada da bilo Ů│ ˙ koji oblik vanzemaljskog života koji eventualno dospe do nas bude odmah Nešto slično sam video u X-Files. No to je besmislieno, so ne verujem... Ů│ ˙ uništen ? Da li je ovo po vama ispravno, ako je tačno ? Po meni nije ni ispravno ni mudro.. :)
misterije.141 vgenije, -> #124, kriss
> Ispravmo po meni nije, ali "logike" sigurno da ima. Ovaj je > sagraden na kapitalu i novcu, i retko ko bi dozvolio da se sve > to najednom srusi. (Dobra) kola na suncev pogon, struju i razna > ne-stetna i visokokaloricna goriva su odavno izmisljena, ali se > ne probijaju. da a sta ako se slucajno desi da oni nama mou nesto da pokazu, ukazu na nove opravce u nauci.Oces da ih ubijes
misterije.142 vgenije, -> #130, dejanr
> Nije da nema neobjasnjenih slucajeva, i nije da se o njima > knjige ne pisu, ali na svaki neobjasnjeni dodu po hiljade > objasnjenih ili isfoliranih. Uvek se vredi setiti Denikena, > koji je totalno raskrinkan kao prevarant. A umeo je da zvuci > ubedljivo :) Ali pazi,to nije 1,10,100 pa 1000 slucajeva. to je gomila primera iz svih krajeva sveta.Sigurno neceg ima. Sad dali su oni mali,visoli,zeleni ili crveni je sekundarna stvar u ovom trenutku
misterije.143 mmitrovic, -> #134, drndi
Ů█▀█Ţ iz direktorijuma MJ12. Ne, ja nemam taj CD niti znam ikoga ko ga ima. Ů█▀█Ţ Inace imam jos toga pa ako jos nekoga interesuje.... Baci i to ;) Ako je samo trećina ovog teksta istinita, biće velikog belaja u godinama pred nama. Po tom tekstu mi se već uveliko spremamo za rat sa njima.
misterije.144 haevorn,
// dogovor svih svetskih... Nemoguce. Ako su mogli da se dogovore oko toga zasto se ne bi dogovorili i oko nekih mnogo realnijih stvari tipa mira i sl. Ex, bre ovde ljudi ne mogu da se dogovore u jednoj stranki (o skupstini i da ne govorim), a kamo li svi na svetu (drzavnici)
misterije.145 alien, -> #134, drndi
[] imam jos toga pa ako jos nekoga interesuje.... U Sezamovom FAQu bi obavezno trebalo da bude navedeno i sledeće: Q: Da li nekog interesuje? A: Da. Q: Da li da šaljem? A: Da.
misterije.146 stigor, -> #144, haevorn
> Nemoguce. Ako su mogli da se dogovore oko toga zasto se ne bi > dogovorili i oko nekih mnogo realnijih stvari tipa mira i sl. Takav "dogovor" prevazilazi sve "redovne" dogovore ... Oko toga se jednostavno moraju dogovoriti, a oko globalnog mira teško (ko će bre da izdržava onoliku radnu snagu u vojnoj industriji?:) ...
misterije.147 kriss, -> #141, vgenije
˙˙ da a sta ako se slucajno desi da oni nama mou nesto da pokazu, ˙˙ ukazu na nove opravce u nauci.Oces da ih ubijes Ja neću da ih ubijem (verovatno ne bi ni mogao ;), ali zašto ih "krupni kapital" ne bi zbrisao?! Zamisli da otkriju nešto što se kači svakom čoveku na glavu i služi za komunikaciju, nešto kao savršen bežični telefon, koji troši mnoooogo malo, a radi mnooogo dobro. Pošta bi propala, _masa_ ljudi bi ostala bez posla, država bez prihoda, neki bi se preko noći obogatili (recimo oni koji bi prvi naučili kako radi sprava, i koji bi držali "privatne časove"), pojavili bi se strašni nemiri. Svet bi zapao u veeeooooma tešku krizu - o posledicama razmisli sam. To je ta logika o kojoj pričam ...
misterije.148 acid,
Evo jednog text-a o MIB-ima, sto ce reci "ljudi u crnom".. (opet iscupano iz Disk-Mag-a ). Mysterious men in black When talking about the UFO phenomenon, one subject will always be mentioned, the mysterious men in black (MIB) which sometimes appear after an improtant UFO-sighting, and forces the witness to remain silent about his knowledge. I will write some examples on how these men appear, and how they affect the persons involved. By Drain In 1953 the first sighting of the MIB took place, it was the author of the very famous "Space review" released by IFSB (the International Flying Saucer Bureau) founded in 1952 by, Albert K. Bender. In the April 1953 issue, Bender announces that in the July issue would contain a "startling revelation", and ofcourse this drew much attention from the network of UFO enthusiasts worldwide, but when the long awaited July issue was released, it didn't contain anything worthy of being categorized as a "startling revelation". Ofcoursed when confronted, Bender said nothing, and was very determined to keep the reason a well guarded secret. Later that year, word began to leak that Bender was going to close down IFSB, and as journalists and UFO enthusiasts put a continuing pressure on Bender for an explanation, all he said was "I know the secret of the UFO's", but he also said that he was not able to reveal anything because he had been visited by three strange men all dressed in black, who pledged him to remain silent". This was all that was ever dragged out of Bender. This was the first time ever reported that three sinister men all dressed in black visited a witness of a UFO sighting. In far too many cases, the three men even threatens the witnesses to remain silent about what they saw. Some cases proves that these three men are not all earthly, the best known of these cases are the case of Herbert Hopkins. The visit was in 1976 while Herbert Hopkins was working as a counselling hypnosist on an assumed abduction case in Maine. One night when he was home alone, he recieved a phonecall from a man claiming to represent a UFO-research group in New Jersey (Hopkins later discovered that such a group did not exist). The man asked for a meeting with Hopkins to discuss the abduction case, and Hopkins agreed. Later he found it strange that he had accepted this meeting so easily. Hopkins wasn't even surprised when a strange visitor was standing on his doorstep just seconds after the phonecall. The man was bald, without eyebrowsers or eyelashes. He was dressed in a black suit, a black tie, and a shining white shirt - everything immaculate and well ironed. "I thought that he looked like an undertaker" said Hopkins later on, the man also had a death white face, and used a lipstick. Obviously unaffected from this, the doctor sat down with the stranger to discuss the case of the abduction very detailed with the strange visitor for a while. During the discussion, Hopkins noticed that the mysterious man got unsecure in his movements, and he started to speak very slowly, as he rose to leave. His strange and cryptic parting words were "Must go now. My energy almost used. Goodbye", and when the strange visitor left, Hopkins noticed that he was shocked. This case is outstanding in one area. The mysterious man appears alone, whereas they usually travels along three by three, always dressed in the same black outfit. On the outside, they look like ordinary human beings, but obviously they are not. Scientists have examined 30 cases very detailed, and can tell that these beings sometimes find ordinary items like pens and knives surprising. They often talk in a very strange accent, mostly a very formal language, or a language filled with old Hollywood B-film slang. A UFO witness visited by these three black men quotes one of them "listen up kid, if you apreciate the life of you and your family, your better keep this thing for yourself". One of the only cases where the mysterious men in black has been observed outside the victims house, is the case of Edgar R. Jarrold, in charge of the AFSB (the Australian Flying Saucers Bureau). He too is said to have been silenced by these MIB. His trouble starts one night when he is awakened by a violent pounding on his door, but as he open it, there was nothing but a horride smell of burned plastic. Some days after, he found out that a black car was shadowing him late at night, gliding pass his house with the lights turned off, carrying two sinisterlooking persons. Jerrold is later said to have had a visit by a strange man, supposedly telling him amazing things which he had been forced to keep as a secret. Jarrold told the public nothing. The mysterious men in black has been characterized as many things, the most popular theory was that the MIB was secret national agents who tries to supress the truth (this theory is ofcourse closely connected to the theory of the government working together with the ufonauts, or even being the persons behinf the UFO) but in the UFO society, the mysterious men in black has always been respected as being real, people like J. Allen Hynek, a very respected UFO enthusiast, once ascribed the MIB as much importance as the UFO's themselfes, saying that: "I can handle UFO's, but I just can't handle those men in black".
misterije.149 acid,
Evo jednog zanimljivog o profesoru koji nista ne veruje :) An invitation for a seance The London attorney John Tymer and his wife made a fab deal in the summer of 1855 when they succeding in getting the famous Psychic Daniel Dunglas Home as a houseguest. By Drain The local priest was preaching against the nuisance that took place in their house in the suburb Ealing, and boring neighbours have probably whispered trash behind the backs of Rymers, but Home brought them two irresistable gifts. The belief that they were talking to their dead child, and connections in the fashionable part of the social life of London which the socially ambitious couple would never have gotten. The stories in the papers about Homes seances encouraged aristocrats, writers and other prominent persons to make their approach in Rymers home in Ealing. Among the celebreties was the writer Elizabeth Barrett Browning who announced that Home was the most interesting person in England. Her husband, also a writer, Robert Browning despied spriritism, but she succeeded in getting the Rymers to invite them. This is how it happened that the Brownings on 23. july 1855 travelled to the very little fashionable Ealing for a seance which, though it was typical for the experiences Home gave his audience, was going to be famous because the writers were there. At the arrival in Ealing, Robert Browning immidiately got to dislike the unctuous young Psychic. In a long letter for a friend, the writer discribed the seance and said that Home showed unmanliness ... of the worst kind, simulating childish maners by adressing mr. and mrs. Rymer as 'mama' and 'papa', and kissing the family a bit too much. Browning appended that the family though appeared to aprove of the caresses which they returned. The writer kept his politeness dispied his discomfort, and at nine o'clock that night, the 14 present sat around a table with a cloth on it. An oil lamp standing on the table made out the only light source of the room, and several minor objects were on the table aswell. The host, John Rymer, came with suggestions about behaviour which, though pollite, told us that we were not to ask any questions, Browning told, or ask for more than the spirit wishes to give us. The greedily curious guests shouldn't wait long. Soon they heard knocking noises, and felt the table coming alive starting to shiver and rock. The knocking noises were explained as being statements from the usual guest, the Rymers dead child, Wat, who had died three years earlier aged 12. Then the show suddently stopped, Browning told, and five of the guests selected by the spirit, were told to leave the room. The victorian Psychics often used the trick of expelling guests who seemed too sceptical, and on this occasion it suitedly created space on either side of Home. The table came rockingly and shiveringly back to live, and it suddently rose to an angle so steep that several of the guests thought that the oil lamp would tip over and fall off the table, but it didn't. It remained in it's position as if it was glued to the table. All hands were visible, Browning told, I can't possibly explain how it happened. The table 'went' back to it's original position, and the knocking sounds continued, which made the beginners of the party a little nervous, because they couldn't determine the course. All the knocks seemed to come from somewhere around the table, Browning told, and not from outside us. But the astonishment of the guests were soon covered by the emotional intensitivity of the next state of the seance, beacuse the manifestations suddently became more physical - and more personal. Mrs. Rymer was surprised by feeling somebody - or something - touch her without being able to see anything. Her husband John felt a similar touch. The couple thought to recognize the entity as being the spirit of their dead son Wat. Elizabeth Browning was the next to feel the attention of the invisible forces. Her husband was amazed to see her dress being lifted in a way that he could not explain. It looked like an object was underneath her dress, and could hardly have been placed there without her noticing it. The invisible spirit hand repeated the act by pulling and lifting mrs. Brownings dress. By knocking answers to questions, the spirit brought out a message, that it was going to play a accordion, and after that let Robert Browning see it's hand. Somebody extinguished the oil lamp. The only light came from a clouded moon which could hardly penetrate the thin muslincurtains which covered the french doors which led out into the garden. The most ghostly and dramatical part of the seance could begin. The room was so dark that you could barely see a thing held up against the windows, but nothing of which went on at the table. In this darkness, the guests saw a bright white hand turn up at the table across from the Brownings. It was pulled back. Reappeared, moved around, rose and sank. It was covered in somthing like muslin down to the edge of the table, and was never loosened. Several other hands appearded, one turning as if it wanted to be seen, another ringing a small bell which was on the table. Browning noticed that the hands operated close to Home all the time, and never in the open parts of the room, though one hand climbed the shoulder of mr. Home. The spirits told, at first the writer, probably through knocking, that they were to be touched, but when he tried it was him forbidden. His wife tested the spookiness in her own way by holding op a monocle to make sure that the hands were not a 'purely mental deception' she wrote in a letter for her sister later on. Mrs. Browning was as convinced of the genuiuneness of the seance, as her husband doubted it. As neither she nor her husband touched the hands, she told forth a statement from a previous guest who had touched a hand, that it was 'warm and human, actually warmer than a human hand'. Suddently the light was turned back on, Home held an accordian, a two-hand instrument, under the table with one hand. Then it started to play several melodies. The music was beautifull mrs. Browning told, and even her husband had to admit that it was played very expressively. While the room was still in darkness, Home asked Elizabeth Barrett Browning to sit next to him. The spirithands took a wreath which lay on the table, and put it on her head. She discribed one of the hands as being a fairly big hand, and as white as snow, and very beautifull. It was as close to me, she wrote to her sister, as the very hand I'm writing with, I saw it very clearly and I was very calm, at no time afraid. Though the spirits concentrated on his wife, Robert Browning was not left completely alone. He several times felt touched, first on the knee, later on his hand by something he discribed as a soft fleshy clapping. The guests were asked to leave the Rymers alone with the Psychic for fifteen minutes. When they were called back in, the room was lit. Home told that the table would be lifted from the floor by the spirits so that Robert Browning could observe the phenomenon. I looked under the table, Browning wrote, and I can assure you that it was lifted about 30 cm. several times, and Mr. Homes hands were clearly on the table. That ended the seance. Browning admitted that he could not explain how the table had been lifted at all, or how the dress of his wife had been touched, or how the accordian had played. Never the less he declared the manifestations for being one big fraud, and later wrote his mocking poem about Home, 'Mr. Sludge the Psychic' in which Mr. Sludge said. 'If those who came for wool, sir, went home cutted. What then did I do wrong? It was their own choice'.
misterije.150 acid,
Ova je o cudnom "momcicu" koji je predvideo neke cudne stvari A spooky prophecy In the year 1788 a dinner party for special people were taking place in Paris France. The host was Jacques Cazotte, a wellknown writer and prophet. By Drain One of the attenders, Jean-Francois de La Harpe, later wrote down exactly what had been said. During the dinner, Cazotte is said to have ruined the dinner party by telling a spooky prophecy concerning his guests. They had laughed and made fun of everything during the evening, and talked about the revolution which they all ment would soon come to France. Suddently Cazotte said "Ladies and Gentlemen. Everyone of you still have the pleasure of experiencing the revolution left, but as you know, I'm quite a prophet, and I assure you that each and everyone of you will experience it". He continued by telling scary stories of what would happen to each single person. "You, monsieur de Condorcet" he said, "will lie straight on a cell floor, dead from the poison you took to cheat the executioner", "And you, Monsieur de Chamfort, will cut your veins 22 times without dying, which will happend only some months thereafter". "Monsieur Bailly and monsieur de Nicolai will die on the scaffold". The guest started to whisper about Cazotte's madness, and one of the guests, La Harpe, mentioned, that Cazotte had not yet told him his fate. "Oh" said Cazotte, "you will turn into a cristian". Everybody was shocked by the prophecy, and he even told the ladies, that because of their sex, they would not escape the cruilty of the revolution. Nobody would, he said, not even the king and queen of France would escape. This prophecy was proven to be the most exact prophecy ever to be made, as everything mentioned in it, came true during the revolution.
misterije.151 acid,
Procitajte ove textove pa recite neko vase misljenje, pogotovo o ljudima u crnom, posto smatram da je tema vrlo interesantna za diskusiju... Npr... Ko su oni ? :)) Odgovor: a) Agenti CIA-e b) Strani oblici zivota c) Privatni Istrazivaci Fenomena UFO d) ___________________ \ (popuniti po nahodjenju ) Naravno ako neko ima jos neku dokumentaciju o ovome obavezno saljite..
misterije.152 vvelisavljev, -> #132, drndi
I šta je bilo s'ovim? Kako je reagovala Američka vlada?
misterije.153 vgenije, -> #147, kriss
> > Ja necu da ih ubijem (verovatno ne bi ni mogao ;), ali zasto ih > "krupni kapital" ne bi zbrisao?! Zamisli da otkriju nesto sto > se kaci svakom coveku na glavu i sluzi za komunikaciju, nesto > kao savrsen bezicni telefon, koji trosi mnoooogo malo, a radi > mnooogo dobro. Posta bi propala, _masa_ ljudi bi ostala bez > posla, drzava bez prihoda, neki bi se preko noci obogatili > (recimo oni koji bi prvi naucili kako radi sprava, i koji bi > drzali "privatne casove"), pojavili bi se strasni nemiri. Svet > bi zapao u veeeooooma tesku krizu - o posledicama razmisli sam. > To je ta logika o kojoj pricam ... ne moze tako da se razmislja.Ima tu istine ali to su pametni(uslovno receno) ljudi koji znaju da to ne moze da donese zlo.Verovatno bi se svet koncipirao na neki drugi nacin,uveo neki drugi sistem.
misterije.154 vgenije, -> #143, mmitrovic
> Ů█▀█Ţ iz direktorijuma MJ12. Ne, ja nemam taj CD niti znam > ikoga ko ga ima. Ů█▀█Ţ Inace imam jos toga pa ako jos nekoga > interesuje.... Mene interesuje.Gde se nalazi i kako je ime fajla(ako sam dobro shvatio poentu ovih poruka)
misterije.155 vgenije, -> #144, haevorn
> Ex, bre ovde ljudi ne mogu da se dogovore u jednoj stranki > (o skupstini i da ne govorim), a kamo li svi na svetu > (drzavnici) Ovde ne mogu da se dogovore jer se ne dogovaraju ljudi nego monstrumi kojma je jedini cilj NOVAC
misterije.156 suros,
Da dodam nesto.... Svako zivo bice from outer spacee momentalno stavlja karantin i takoizoluje od spoljnog sveta. Svako eliminisanje takvog bica kaznjava se sankcija ili nekom drugom kaznenom merom!!! (Tako je bar za clanice NATO_a.(sto mi nismo ;)))
misterije.157 hercog, -> #123, ognjen
> I ti si gledao 'X Files'? :) Ne, to su gluposti koje su pale > na pamet tupavom scenaristi. Jesi li baš siguran u to? Sale
misterije.158 hercog,
Je li gledao ko pre neki dan onu emisiju na Palmi od duhovima? Sale p.s. bili su i snimci glasova duhova, jezovito
misterije.159 ognjen, -> #157, hercog
)-> > I ti si gledao 'X Files'? :) Ne, to su gluposti koje su )-> > pale na pamet tupavom scenaristi. )-> Jesi li bas siguran u to? Pa, mogu da budem. Prvo, ima puno nedostataka da bi scenario zaista bio istinit, i ona objava da to jese je cista marketingski potez. A, i reziser kao da koristi premodifikovan program POLITICAR koji koristi sve komplikovane fraze da bi sto vise zbunio coveka. Ne kazem ja da ne razumem, ali cisto sumnjam da neko zaista onako prica.
misterije.160 vgenije, -> #156, suros
> stavlja karantin i takoizoluje od spoljnog sveta. Za to sam cuo ali se postavlja jedno pomalo smesno pitanje kako to mislis izoluje kada se ne zna od cega i na sta je imuno.
misterije.161 vgenije, -> #156, suros
> stavlja karantin i takoizoluje od spoljnog sveta.
misterije.162 suros, -> #160, vgenije
Jednostavno se stavi izmedju cetiri zida (ako ne racunamo plafon i pod) pod uslovom da je bice organsko,a ne neki tamo duhh! UrOs
misterije.163 vgenije, -> #162, suros
> Jednostavno se stavi izmedju cetiri zida (ako ne > racunamo plafon i pod) pod uslovom da je > bice organsko,a ne neki tamo duhh! A sta ako moze da razlaze zid,da se stapa sa materijom... opet nije efikasna zasttita
misterije.164 suros, -> #162, suros
Ako moze sve to da radi onda ono ne bi ni stiglo do karantina. UrOs
misterije.165 hercog,
Misterije gde ste? Sale p.s. ajde lenštine :)
misterije.166 suros, -> #165, hercog
Dobro.... Ajd mi sad recii...... Kad se dogodila sibirska eksplozija,i zbog cega (navedi svoju pretpostavku)
misterije.167 mmitrovic, -> #141, vgenije
Ů█▀█Ţ da a sta ako se slucajno desi da oni nama mou nesto da pokazu, Ů█▀█Ţ ukazu na nove opravce u nauci.Oces da ih ubijes Onaj ko drži današnju energetiku (samim tim i svu vlast) sigurno nema nameru da tek tako preda svoju moć zato što su se pojavili neki tamo vanzemaljci. Ubiće ih, kako bi produžio svoju vlast, sem toga činili su oni i groznije stvari zbog nafte i gasa.
misterije.168 mmitrovic, -> #153, vgenije
Ů█▀█Ţ ne moze tako da se razmislja.Ima tu istine ali to su pametni(uslovno Ů█▀█Ţ receno) ljudi koji znaju da to ne moze da donese zlo.Verovatno bi se Ů█▀█Ţ svet koncipirao na neki drugi nacin,uveo neki drugi sistem. Svet se ne pomera tako lako. ;) Ovo više nije teslino vreme, pa da doneseš hi-tech low-cost baklju i prosvetliš čovečanstvo. Zbog takvih stvari su ljudi nestajali. Oni te neće mrzeti, neće ništa osećati. Bićeš jednostavno prepreka njihovoj moći i eliminisaće te. Ako mi ne veruješ jednostavno se postavi u položaj takvog čoveka. Njemu odgovara sistem i status quo, i neće pristati ne bilo kakve promene; čak šta više trudiće se da uguši svaki legalni pokušaj da se stvari promene. Takvi ljudi su danas u svim vladama, i oni su primarni razlog nepoverenja intelektualaca i naprednih ljudi u organe vlasti. Što se tiče primera koji ti je dat (sa poštom), to je samo jedan primer (ni ja se ne bih setio bolje ;). Sada uzmi u isti položaj industriju nafte i njihove trilione $ i milione zaposlenih. Proturi sad novu energetsku tehnologiju i oni će biti otpušteni. Ljude boli uvo za ekologiju, njima treba novac da hrane familije, ako ga ne dobiju postaju nezadovoljni. Ne moram ja da ti pričam šta se dešava kad se nagomilavaju ti "nezadovoljni". Tek da upotpunim priču podatak da nijednu revoluciju nije sprovela većina. Jednostavno rečeno ima nas suviše za jednu planetu.
misterije.169 vgenije, -> #168, mmitrovic
> Jednostavno receno ima nas suvise za jednu planetu. Verovatno si priznajem u pravu.Ali ja sam pokusao da razmisljam l;ogicno tj.da novac ne bude jedini faktor odlucivanja u ovoj situciji sto je garantovano nemoguce
misterije.170 vgenije,
Videste li pre neko vece ne atv-u onu emisiju sa hitlerom(da nije on sebe ubijo nego da je samou bistvo izvrsio njegov dvojnik)?
misterije.171 acid,
SYSTEM HACK REVEALS UFO-INFO The following were taken from Computer underground Digest Sun Feb 14, 1993 Volume 5: Issue 13. I've decided to publish it here in the "Into the Mist" section of Upstream, to so that more of the public can get aware of what's going on. I'd really like to get views and reactions to this for the next issue! If any of you guys out there hear or read about stories / news like this, or other things that could be brought up here in the "Into the Mist" corner, don't hesitate to post it to me. - Cesium Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 01:15:50 PST From: Ann_Dromeda@orion.nebula.com ((MODERATORS' COMMENT: We've read a bit of discussion about UFOs, "hackers," and guerilla investigators. Whether myth or reality, the discussions represent a segment of computer culture that others might find interesting. So, we run the following as a reflection of one segment of the culture that, even if myth, raises that age-old question: Is it live, or is it memorex?)). Rumors have begun to surface about a group of hackers who were involved in a project to uncover information regarding the existence of UFOs. The most public example pertaining to this alleged project was seen on Dateline NBC on the screen of the mystery hacker "Quentin." The story goes that this group of individuals decided to put their skills to work on a project that, if successful, would legitimize the hacking process by uncovering information on what has been called the greatest cover-up in the history of the world. Milnet TAC ID cards were obtained through military officials sympathetic to the cause. Several sites and networks were targeted that had in the past been linked to UFO activity. These were sites like the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Sandia Labs, TRW Space Research, American Institute of Physics, and various other educational, government and military sites. The rumors also emphasize that several sites had what these individuals called "particularly heavy security." Within several seconds after connection had been established, system administrators of sites used in this project were contacted. Further rumors state that there was information regarding a propulsion system designed utilizing what is termed "corona discharge" being analyzed at one site. The most sinister of all rumors states that one particular participant who was allegedly deeply immersed in TRWs internal network has not been heard from since uncovering data regarding a saucer being housed at one of their Southern California installations. Believe what you will about the reality of this project. Much will be dismissed as hacker lore, but within the core of every rumor lies a grain of truth. Are we being lied to? Why is this information still classified by the NSA? What are they hiding from us behind a maze of security? Will we continue to stand idly by and let an uncaring and deliberately evasive government shield us from what may be the most important, and potential dangerous news to ever surface? Information wants to be free, and only a concerted group effort can make this happen. How much do you really want to know about what is really going on? What follows is information that has been released regarding this project... PROJECT ALF-1 A Planetary Effort TOP SECRET! TOP SECRET! TOP SECRET! These are the raw data. Where comments are appropriate, they will be included. The data will be grouped together with dates, names etc. to make correlations easier. There are countless references to the aliens, their down space craft and what the Government is doing with them. If, as is supposed, the research on the craft and the 'ufonauts' continues today, then undoubtedly there are computer records, somewhere. í I. Searching the Skies; Tripping the Electronic Fence around the USA. US Space Command Space Surveillance Center, Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado Springs, Box Nine (Electronic Surveillance Room) (This is where they search for and track UFO activity.) U.S. Naval Space Surveillance System, Dahlgreen, Virginia, (Main computer), Lake Kickapoo, Texas (listening post): Search for 'Flash Traffic' Commander Sheila Mondran CINC-NORAD Space Detection and Tracking System Malabar, Florida 'Teal Amber' search National Military Command Center - Pentagon (These are the areas where UFO activity is tracked. There is a radar shield around the country that is 'tripped' by UFO's. All tracking and F14 scrambling is done through this system.) II. The Second Cover Up Defense Intelligence Agency Directorate for Management and Operations Project Aquarius (in conjunction with SRI) Colonel Harold E. Phillips, Army (where/what Feb. 1987) UFO Working Group, (formed Dec 1987) Major General James Pfautz, USAF, Ret. (March 87) US Army experiments -(Monroe Institute, Faber, VA) Major General Albert Stubblebine Capt. Guy Kirkwood, (thousands of feet of film of UFO's catalogued and on record somewhere.) The UFO Working Group was formed because one arm of the Govt doesn't know what the other is doing.) í III. National Security NSA NAtional Security Agency, Dundee Society (Super secret elite who have worked on UFO's.) NSA - Research and Engineering Division NSA - Intercept Equipment Division Kirtland Force Base, Office of Special Investigations, Project Beta. 1979-83-? (Sandia Labs are here.) Paul Bennewitz Project Blue Project Blue Book (NSA computers do analysis for Pentagon.) IV. More Secret Players NASA, Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA NASA Ames Research Center, Moffet Field Naval Base SETI State Dept. Office of Advanced Technology Any Astronauts from Mercury, Gemini and Apollo CIA - Office of Scientific Investigation CIA - Domestic Collection Division (NASA has known about UFO's since the astronauts saw and photoed them. Records somewhere.) V. Dealing with the Secret MJ-12 (1952) Majectic 12 Operation Majestic 12 MAJIC-12 Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter Dr. Vannevar Bush Dr. Detlev Bronk Dr. Jerome Hunsaker Dr. Donald Menzel Dr. Lloyd Berkner General Robt. Montague Sidney Souers Gordon Gray General Hoyt Vandenberg Sect State James Forrestal General Nathan Twining Pres. Truman Pres. Eisenhower One of the biggest secrets ever Nevada Desert, Area 51, S4 (houses UFO's) (Robert Lazar talked!) 9 space ships on storage. Propulsion by corona discharge. (Area 51 is the most protected base on the planet.) VI. ROSWELL, NM Crashes Mac Brazel (farmer) Major Jesse A. Marcel 509th. Bomber Group Lewis Rickett, CIC Officer Colonel William Blanchard Gerald Anderson, witness to crash and aliens Wright Patterson Air Force Base, (parts lists of UFO's catalogued; autopsies on record) (Bodies in underground facility) Foreign Technology Building USAAF (United States Army Air Force reports: "Early Automation" Muroc, CA (Base with UFO's for study) (1 saucer with 4 aliens. They were transported to Wright and then saved, catalogued and autopsied.) VII. THOSE ON GOVT SHIT LIST (People who have gotten close.) Robert Lazar Major Donald Keyhoe William Moore Stanton Friedman Jaime Shandera Whitley Streiber Timothy Goode, UK Other UFO Crashes Del Rio, TX 12/50, Colonel Robert Willingham Las Vegas, 4/18/62 Kecksburg, PA 12/9/65 VIII. International Belgian Air Force. (They are going public and have records. Press conference held 7/12/91.) Australian Air Force UK; GCHQ British Air Force Belgium: NATO Radar Stations IX. UFO Civilian Groups. (What do they really know?) NICAP, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (private company.) APRO, Tucson, AZ (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, private company.) MUFON Mutual UFO Network X. GENERAL Kenneth Arnold, June 24, 1947 Cattle and Sheep Mutilations General and Pres. Eisenhower, (private files and library) President Truman Wright Field or Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, (Air Force Foreign Technology Division) USAF Project Saint USAF Project Gemini Project Moon Dust Project Sign Project Grudge General Hoyt Vandenberg (1940-1960) Air Force Regulation 200-2 (8/12/54) Holloman AFB, NM Roswell, NM July 7, 1947 XI. Possible Searches Presidential Libraries Old USAAF, (United States Army Air Force) NASA Astronaut Frank Borman, Gemini 7, pictures of UFO Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, saw UFO's on moon. Colonel Gordon Cooper saw a bunch of them James McDivitt, 6/66 United Nations NATO; General Lionel Max Chassin, French Air Force Star Wars, United Kingdom, 23 scientists killed in 6 years. Gulf Breeze, FL Additional UFO records at NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI
misterije.172 gari, -> #122, cnenad
=-> Da li je tacno da postoji dogovor izmedu svih svetskih vlada da =-> bilo koji oblik vanzemaljskog zivota koji eventualno dospe do nas =-> bude odmah unisten ? =-> =-> Da li je ovo po vama ispravno, ako je tacno ? Tesko da neko sa zemlje moze da unisti nesto sto dodje do zemlje zivo. 1. Naprednija (daleko ispred nase) tehnologija koja ce to omoguciti. 2. Mogucnost da se do iste dodje "pre vremena". 3. Verovatno da ce tesko doci do nekog susreta, sa obzirom da se svemir stalno siri...
misterije.173 gari, -> #147, kriss
=-> Ja necu da ih ubijem (verovatno ne bi ni mogao ;), ali zasto ih =-> "krupni kapital" ne bi zbrisao?! Zamisli da otkriju nesto sto se =-> kaci svakom coveku na glavu i sluzi za komunikaciju, nesto kao =-> savrsen bezicni telefon, koji trosi mnoooogo malo, a radi mnooogo =-> dobro. Posta bi propala, _masa_ ljudi bi ostala bez posla, drzava =-> bez prihoda, neki bi se preko noci obogatili (recimo oni koji bi =-> prvi naucili kako radi sprava, i koji bi drzali "privatne =-> casove"), pojavili bi se strasni nemiri. Svet bi zapao u =-> veeeooooma tesku krizu - o posledicama razmisli sam. To je ta =-> logika o kojoj pricam ... NIKAKO !!! Tada nam ne bi bio potreban posao (bar ne onakav kakvog ga mi zamisljamo), verovatno da ne bi bilo potrebe ni za prihode, jer postoji masina koju malo zarotiras (: mala potrosnja :), a ona ti izbaci kvalitetan duvan, hranu, odelo... p.s. Jel' ovo mozda za SF? O:)
misterije.174 uobradovic,
Hi !!! Hteo bih da vam postavim jedno pitanjce. Za one koji čitaju 'Treće oko' znaće. Šta mislite o onom tekstu koji govori o Zemljinoj šupljini posle 83. paralele. Pokazani su i NASA-ini snimci,a sad dali je to istina ili ne,saznace se jednog dana. Možda ova tema nije loša za diskusiju. Pozdrav Uroš :))))
misterije.175 mmitrovic, -> #134, drndi
Ů█▀█Ţ iz direktorijuma MJ12. Ne, ja nemam taj CD niti znam ikoga ko ga ima. Ů█▀█Ţ Inace imam jos toga pa ako jos nekoga interesuje.... Pa ajde više ;) Ubismo se od čekanja. U ovom tekstu se pominje prva nedorađena verzija za nepotvrđenim podatcima, imaš li nju. Takođe se pominju Bill English i John Learson fajlovi.
misterije.176 dejanr, -> #170, vgenije
>> Videste li pre neko vece ne atv-u onu emisiju sa hitlerom(da nije on sebe >> ubijo nego da je samoubistvo izvrsio njegov dvojnik)? Ta to nije onaj film koji je snimio jedan naš čovek, kao svoj diplomski rad na Akademiji? Jedino što je film snimio sa namerom da pokaže kako se žISTIM LAčIMA može stvoriti ubedljiva konstrukcija u koju su mnogi spremni da veruju. Bilo je diskusije o tome u FORUM/mediji pre par dana.