yucca.1postmast,
From: broker@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: yucca
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:40:03
==== Aleksandar Ninkovic rece: ======================================
*> Nego, valjalo bi da se dogovorimo da u reply u prvoj liniji
*> napisemo To: <username> posto su sve poruke upucene na All.
AN> :) Nece moci ..News grupe nemaju to: opciju...tako da sve poruke uvek
AN> idu na All. sta god mi da stavimo u To: , bice prevedeno prilikom
AN> konverzije u All a sa Binta i onako dolazi u tom obliku .
To je tacno, ali ce bar u poruci ostati ovo To:... pa ce svako moci
da vidi kome je poruka poslata. U nekim porukama sam video Reply-To
informaciju, ali retko koji sistem to ubaci u reply-e... :(
broker
... BR> Ups. Opet ostadoh bez tagova...
* Origin: Oreska BBS, UZICE = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
yucca.2postmast,
From: Sasa.Jaksic@f110.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Sasa Jaksic)
Subject: Re: INFORMACIJE
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 01:20:06
-=> Quoting Nenad Mitovski, Etf Iii R to All <=-
NMEI> Pozdrav svima na Beointernetu, Sezamu, SETNetu i ProNetu i
NMEI> cestitka onima koji su sve to povezali. ^^^^^^^
Pa ja nazalost bas i ne vidim poruke sa ProNet-a u paketima koje skidam
sa svog omiljenog SETNet BBS-a :( U ocekivanju boljih dana i vise
zajednickih konferencija, Dzx
... Catch the Blue Wave!
2.12
* Origin: [New Age BBS]*[Beograd]*[+38-11-404-639]*[23-06] (38:103/110)
yucca.3postmast,
From: Sasa.Jaksic@f110.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Sasa Jaksic)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 01:35:08
To: "Marko Milivojevic" <markom@sezam.UUCP>
-=> Quoting "marko Milivojevic" to All <=-
"M> :: To sto iza njega stoji JUS moze biti samo mana :(. A upravo je
"M> JUS.015
"M> Zasto moramo da se pridrzavamo MS standarda? JUS 015 je
"M> domaci standard, i tre-
"M> ba to objasniti Microsoftu, a ne oni nama da objasnjavaju
"M> kakve kodove da kori-
"M> stimo ...
O.K. Onda da posaljemo Radomana Bozovica, Nikolu Sainovica i Lilica u USA
da porazgovaraju sa Gatesom oko YU kodnog rasporeda i objasne coveku da
ne mora Microsoft da nam izmislja kodni raspored, pa imamo mi vec nekoliko
razlicitih :))).
cu, Dzx
... Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so...
2.12
* Origin: [New Age BBS]*[Beograd]*[+38-11-404-639]*[23-06] (38:103/110)
yucca.4postmast,
From: Dusko.Ozegovic@f306.n301.z58.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Dusko Ozegovic)
Subject: proba
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 23:14:11
Proba conf.YUCCA sa Wizard BBS-a
Pozdrav
Dusko Ozegovic@58:301/306.ProNet
* Origin: WIZARD BBS, Professional.+3811-4881-467 (58:301/306)
yucca.5postmast,
From: Slobodan.Popovic@f114.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Slobodan Popovic)
Subject: Simbolika :)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 17:30:04
"YUCCA
Juka je biljka koja raste u veoma surovim uslovima: hladne no}i, preko
dana nepodno{ljive vru}ine, su{a duga i po nekoliko meseci. Domovina su joj
Meksiko i Karipska ostrva. Domoroci poznaju lekovito dejstvo ove bilke i
tradicionalna narodna medicina je dugi niz godina koristi u le~enju. Juka
na vi{e na~inadeluje na ~ovekov organizam, ali najbitnije je da poma`e
razmenu materija, omogu}ava optimalno iskori{}avanje gradivnih materija iz
hrane, pobolj{ava varenje, ja~a i reguli{e izlu~ivanje nepotrebnih
supstanci iz organizma..."
Simboli~no, zar ne? :)
Slobodan
... "Najukusniji hamburgeri prave se od Svetih krava"
* Origin: SETNet:INFOSYS*informacije+usluge*BG*011-1768526* (38:103/114)
yucca.6postmast,
From: rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: YUCCA Novosti
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 11:50:02 GMT
Zdravo svima na grupi,
Malo smo bili usporili sa diskusijama sto i nije lose, jer se u
pozadini prilicno aktivno radi. YUCCA je, hvala Bogu, dobro uznapredovala
na dva osnovna plana: na organizacionom, i na tehnoloskom u vezi sa
povezivanjem.
U utorak dobijamo i ziro racun (zasto tek sada? pa zato sto
nismo bili sigurni u to da cemo uspeti da privedemo kraju neke stvari
za koje nam je bila neophodna dozvola iz inostranstva, a nismo zeleli
da "prodajemo maglu", da teramo pojedince i firme da se uclanjuju, a
da za to dobijaju samo prazna obecanja, itd.), a zatim pocinjemo dve
akcije (omasovljavanje i podrska, i easy e_mail).
Za nekoliko dana bi trebalo da se odrzi Glavni odbor YUCCA, a
svi clanovi (i simpatizeri, i ostali koji prate ove konferencije) ce
tada biti detaljnije obavesteni o konkretnim planovima, akcijama i
svom mogucem doprinosu celoj stvari.
Rade Zonjic
yucca.7postmast,
From: Aleksandar.Markovic@f115.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Markovic)
Subject: Re: proba
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 23:32:27
::: Dusko Ozegovic u poruci za All je rekao: :::
DO> Dusko Ozegovic@58:301/306.ProNet
Konacno!:) BINT+PRONET
* Origin: Atlantis (011)3225-548 svakog dana od 22:00 do 07:30 (38:103/115)
yucca.8postmast,
From: alenin@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Ninkovic)
Subject: proba
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 15:58:00
> ::: Dusko Ozegovic u poruci za All je rekao: :::
> DO> Dusko Ozegovic@58:301/306.ProNet
> Konacno!:) BINT+PRONET
Nazalost..Samo SETNet , Pronet je odbio tu vezu , izuzev YUCCA konfer3encije , koju , koliko znam , ne preuzimaju svi PRONet BBS=-ovi.
* Origin: Infosys*BBS za opste informacije*011 1768-526 (38:103/114)
yucca.9postmast,
From: Zoran.Kosijer@f116.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Zoran Kosijer)
Subject: Re: proba
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 20:55:58
-=> Quoting Aleksandar Ninkovic to Aleksandar Markovic <=-
AN> @MSGID: 38:103/114@SETNet 590ef3b0
AN> @REPLY: 38:103/115.0 2e0b97bd
AN> @PID: FM 2.02
> ::: Dusko Ozegovic u poruci za All je rekao: :::
> DO> Dusko Ozegovic@58:301/306.ProNet
> Konacno!:) BINT+PRONET
AN> Nazalost..Samo SETNet , Pronet je odbio tu vezu , izuzev YUCCA
AN> konfer3encije , koju , koliko znam , ne preuzimaju svi PRONet
AN> BBS=-ovi.
Iz ProNet mreze YUCCA konferenciju primaju
Force Aracis BBS (Host ProNet mreze ali je vec prima kao clan
SetNet mreze)
Digital BBS (Prima je kao clan i SetNet i ProNet mreze)
Wizard BBS (Clan ProNet mreze)
Sa ostalima ce se izvrstiti dogovor.
SysOp Force Aracis BBS Zoran Kosijer
... SetNET@ForceAracisBBS*011-776-832*22-08*Belgrade-YU
* Origin: ▀■▄■▀ ──F─o─r─c─e──ĺ─r─a─c─i─s── ▀■▄■▀ (38:103/116)
yucca.10postmast,
From: Dusko.Ozegovic@f306.n301.z58.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Dusko Ozegovic)
Subject: proba
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 16:37:11
ostavite mi spisak konferencija pa cu ja videti sta mi treba..
Dusko Ozegovic@58:301/306.ProNet
* Origin: WIZARD BBS, Professional.+3811-4881-467 (58:301/306)
yucca.11postmast,
From: Predrag.Supurovic@f306.n301.z58.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: Novosti o "juki"?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 00:16:11
-> │ Moram priznati da te nista nisam razumeo...
-> └────
-> Verovatno nisi redovno pratio konferencije na PRONetu... Da jesi,
-> primetio bi da je posle gomile poruka o ovoj temi nastala prava
-> tisina. Eto, to je to.
Verovatno je u pitanju mala zabuna. Naime do skoro NET.YUCCA nije
isla na sve PRONet BBS-ove. Kako vidim, Wizard BBS je ponovo
preuzima...
Najverovatnije je to razlog tisine.,..
pozdrav,
broker
* Origin: WIZARD BBS, Professional.+3811-4881-467 (58:301/306)
yucca.12postmast,
From: broker@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: Razmena
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 19:38:08
SPISAK KONFERENCIJA KOJE SETNet
RAZMENJUJE SA BeoInternetom
SETNet BeoInternet
=====================================
NET.BASE yu.prog.database
NET.BBS&NET yu.comm.bbs
NET.C-LANG yu.prog.c
NET.CADUA yu.forum.cadua
NET.COMM yu.comm
NET.CULTURE yu.forum.kultura
NET.EMAIL yu.net.email
NET.EROTICA yu.forum.erotika
NET.JOKES yu.humor.vic
NET.OGLASI yu.oglasi
NET.PASCAL yu.prog.pascal
NET.PCPROG yu.comp.software
NET.PCHARD yu.comp.hardware
NET.UNIX yu.os.unix
NET.VMS yu.os.vms
NET.YUCCA yu.comm.yucca
=====================================
Ostale konferencije ce se otvarati i
povezivati prema interesovanju.
... BR> Ja sam stvarno uvek u pravu. Dokazano.
* Origin: Oreska BBS, UZICE = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
yucca.13postmast,
From: Dusan.Djordjevic@f118.n111.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Dusan Djordjevic)
Subject: Re: YUCCA Novosti
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 01:33:42
RDZ> U utorak dobijamo i ziro racun (zasto tek sada? pa zato sto
RDZ> nismo bili sigurni u to da cemo uspeti da privedemo kraju neke stvari
RDZ> za koje nam je bila neophodna dozvola iz inostranstva, a nismo zeleli
RDZ> da "prodajemo maglu", da teramo pojedince i firme da se uclanjuju, a
RDZ> da za to dobijaju samo prazna obecanja, itd.), a zatim pocinjemo dve
RDZ> akcije (omasovljavanje i podrska, i easy e_mail).
Jeli a kako mogu da se uclanim?
... Kad svi pokusaji propadnu, pogledaj uputstvo...
* Origin: Digital BBS, Subotica (38:111/118)
yucca.14postmast,
From: hm35891d@buefhp.etf.bg.ac.yu (Hristodulo Miroslav)
Subject: Re: YUCCA Novosti
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 20:05:31 GMT
>> Jeli a kako mogu da se uclanim?
>> ... Kad svi pokusaji propadnu, pogledaj uputstvo...
Bas tako, pogledaj uputstvo iliti FAQ o uclanjenju u
udruzenje koje sam poslao na ovu grupu pre izvesnog vremena
Ukratko, popunis pristupnicu, koju mozes da skines takodje
sa grupe i posaljes je postom...
--
Miroslav Hristodulo -- student
(hm35891d@buefhp.etf.bg.ac.yu)
yucca.15m.hristodulo,
U nedelju, 3. jula 1994. godine održan je sastanak
proširenog glavnog odbora Jugoslovenskog udruženja
za računarske komunikacije -- YUCCA, sa sledećim
dnevnim redom:
1. izveštaj Predsednika YUCCA o međunarodnoj aktivnosti,
2. izveštaj Koordinatora Sekcija o dosadašnjem radu,
3. diskusija o prostorijama i računaru YUCCA,
4. kooptiranje dva člana Glavnog odbora.
Prisutno je bilo sedam članova Glavnog odbora, jedan
član Nadzornog odbora i gosti.
Na početku je Rade Zonjić, predsednik YUCCA, podneo
izveštaj o prepisci sa ljudima iz holandske centrale
Euneta i ljudima iz Grčkog ogranka Euneta --
svojevrsnog evropskog ogranka Interneta.
Holandsko ministarstvo inostranih poslova dalo je
preporuku da povezivanje YUCCA (kao "non-profit" i
"non-goverment" organizacije) na Internet neće
predstavljati kršenje sankcija UN protiv Srbije i
Crne Gore.
Takođe, najavljeno je registorvanje domena za mrežu
YUCCA (yucca.org) koji će biti pridružen IP
brojevima (193.203.2, 193.203.3) koje smo ranije
dobili.
Udruženju ostaje da razmotri najpovoljniji način za
vezivanje na Internet, da nađe novac i da posao
obavi do kraja u neko dogledno vreme.
Moja malenkost je obavestila Glavni odbor o
kontaktima sa dva bliska udruženja: CADUA (dizajn uz
pomoć računara) i YUEDI (elektronska razmena
podataka), kao o neformalnim kontaktima sa nekim
ljudima na univerzitetu u Nišu.
Izrađen je i pečat a žiro račun se očekuje uskoro
(trebao je već da bude otvoren).
Po drugoj tački dnevnog reda govorili su Aleksandar
Ninković, koordinator sekcije za BBS-ove i Sloba
Marinković, koordinator Unix sekcije.
Aleksandar je dao izveštaj o radu BBS sekcije i
njenim dosadašnjim uspesima: razmena pošte i skoro
svih diskusionih grupa sa univerzitetom je
uspostavljena, neke konferencije se razmenjuju i sa
drugim BBS mrežama (Pronet) i planira se povezivanje
sa BBS-ovima u susednim državama -- Mađarska,
Bugraska, Grčka...
Sloba je konstatovao kako je diskusija na mailing
listi sekcije za Unix zamrla, ali zato je veoma živa
rasprava u yu.os.unix oko PD Unix operativnih
sistema za PC računare. Dogovoreno je da Unix
sekcija, po ugledu na slične oganizacije po Evropi i
Americi, distribuira Linux i FreeBSD uz minimalnu
naknadu za kopiranje disketa.
Zatim je krenula diskusija o budućim prostorijama
YUCCA i računaru koji će biti tamo postavljen.
Prostorije će biti na PMF-u, a računar će biti
kupljen čim otvorimo žiro-račun; služiće u prvo
vreme samo za razmenu elektronske pošte, dok bude
imao samo jednu telefonsku liniju.
Za Glavni odbor (koji po odluci Osnivačke skupštine
ima pravo da kooptira još dva člana) predloženi su
Milan Božić, matematičar i Novica Milić, književnik.
Obojica su i bila izabrana većinom glasova Glavnog
odbora čime je njegovo konstituisanje konačno
završeno.
U nastavku sednice bilo je reči o Skupštini koja bi
zbog zakonskih rokova trebalo da se održi do kraja
septembra, ali još ništa nije precizirano. Potrebno
je prvo da YUCCA postigne vidne uspehe (a na dobrom
je putu), pa tek onda da ide sa održavanjem
Skupštine.
--
m.hristodulo@sezam.co.yu
(Miroslav R. Hristodulo)
yucca.16mdave,
-> #15, m.hristodulo■> U nedelju, 3. jula 1994. godine održan je sastanak
■> proširenog glavnog odbora Jugoslovenskog udruženja
Samo tako ! :)
PS. JU-KA! JU-KA! JU-KA! :)
yucca.17postmast,
From: hristo35891d%buef78@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Miroslav Hristodulo, ETF Bgd)
Subject: uvod
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 00:56:56 GMT
Razmena opet ide...
Ovo citate na DECnetu, na BeoInternetu, na Sezamu,
na SETnetu...
Nadam se da ce biti stabilnije ubuduce...
yucca.18postmast,
From: broker@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: SETNET <->BeoInternet
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 1994 21:04:10
SPISAK KONFERENCIJA KOJE SETNet
RAZMENJUJE u BeoInternetu
SETNet BeoInternet
=====================================
NET.BASE yu.prog.database
NET.BBS&NET yu.comm.bbs
NET.C-LANG yu.prog.c
NET.CADUA yu.forum.cadua
NET.COMM yu.comm
NET.CULTURE yu.forum.kultura
NET.ELECTRO yu.sci.electro
NET.EMAIL yu.net.email
NET.EROTICA yu.forum.erotika
NET.FILM yu.forum.film
NET.GAMES yu.comp.games
NET.GRAPHICS yu.comp.graphics
NET.HAMCOMM yu.comm.ham
NET.JOKES yu.humor.vic
NET.LAN yu.net.lan
NET.MUSIC yu.forum.muzika
NET.OGLASI yu.oglasi
NET.PASCAL yu.prog.pascal
NET.PCGENERAL yu.comp
NET.PCPROG yu.prog
NET.PCHARD yu.comp.hardware
NET.SCIENCE yu.sci
NET.SPORT yu.forum.sport
NET.UNIX yu.os.unix
NET.VIRUS yu.comp.virus
NET.VMS yu.os.vms
NET.YUCCA yu.comm.yucca
=====================================
... BR> YUCCA - Jugoslovensko udruzenje za racunarske komunikacije
* Origin: Oreska BBS, UZICE = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
yucca.19postmast,
From: ihujdur%unsim@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Darko Hujdurovic PMF-NS)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:02:33 GMT
Elem, pitanje je mozda glupo, al' me ipak zanima.
Ima li nacina da se sa DECNeta iz NS-a prati neka
od tema prethodno navedenih, kao yu.prog.c ili
slicno.
Ako ima nacina pricajte, ako nema, pa izrazite bar zaljenje ;)
Darko
yucca.20postmast,
From: beri%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E.)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 15:16:14 GMT
>> Elem, pitanje je mozda glupo, al' me ipak zanima.
Nijedno pitanje nije glupo - svako pitanje je dobrodoslo i korisno
za sve!
>> Ima li nacina da se sa DECNeta iz NS-a prati neka
>> od tema prethodno navedenih, kao yu.prog.c ili
>> slicno.
Odgovor je, nazalost - trenutno NE. No, ne treba kukati i gubiti
nadu - RESENJE POSTOJI! I to vise njih!
Univerzitet u Novom Sadu je, pre nedelju dana, poslao zahtev za
registraciju opsega IP-adresa. Cim to bude obavljeno, a to ne
moze biti za manje od mesec dana, Novi Sad ce steci uslove da se
"zakaci" na BeoInternet.
Pozdrav,
Beri
yucca.21postmast,
From: spale@fon (Spasic Dragan student FON)
Subject: yucca
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 11:18:06 GMT
Sta se dobija uclanjenjem u yucca ?
spale@fon
yucca.22postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 00:46:14 GMT
>> Sta se dobija uclanjenjem u yucca ?
Cast da pripadas jednoj tako uglednoj i uspesnoj organizaciji.
Salim se. Za sada ti mnogo vise mozes da ucinis za udruzenje nego
ono za tebe, ali to ne znaci da ce uvek biti tako, :-)
Neki od ciljeva YUCCA su poboljsanje i povecanje domacih
racunarskih mreza, kao i njihovo prikljucivanje u svetski
Internet.
Ako su ti ovi ciljevi dovoljno bliski i mislis da mozes da
pomognes njihovom ostvarenju (cak i ako nemas jasnu viziju
kako bi bas ti mogao da doprineses), nasa vrata su ti sirom
otvorena. I ne samo tebi...
Pozdrav...
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.23m.hristodulo,
Archive-name: yu-int.list.15jul94
Last-modified: 15 Jul 1994
YU-Internet hosts list
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----------------------
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malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
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apollo.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.10.50
fon.bg.ac.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
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----------------------------------------------------
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zs.grf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.21.2
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----------------------------------------------------
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vin.bg.ac.yu. rt270.vin.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
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ni.ac.yu. efnis.elfak.ni.ac.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
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*.znrfak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.uninis.yu +
elfak.ni.ac.yu. (d) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu +
junis.ni.ac.yu. (d) ban.junis.ni.ac.yu +
elfak.ni.ac.yu. unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
earth.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.1 +
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saturn.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.3 +
mars.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.4 +
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junis.ni.ac.yu. ban.junis.ni.ac.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
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grafadm.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.2 +
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iolan8.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.50 +
co.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
*.b92.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
*.mr-net.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
rns.nis.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
*.setnet.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
sezam.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
vreme.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
zed.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
b92.co.yu. b92.b92.co.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
b92.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.1 +
sisoje.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.2 +
three.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.3 +
four.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.4 +
five.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.5 +
six.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.6 +
seven.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.7 +
eight.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.8 +
nine.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.9 +
mr-net.co.yu. mrsys1.mr-net.co.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
mrsys1.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.1 +
mrsys2.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.2 +
mrsys3.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.3 +
mrsys10.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.10 +
iolan.mr-net.co.yu ? +
------
legend
domain.name. authority.host
----------------------------------------------------
host.domain main.IP.number
alias.name (a) primary.name
host.domain (m) mail.exchanger
subdomain.name. (d) primary.server
+ ... new or changed in this issue
? ... unknown name or number
yucca.24postmast,
From: alenin@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Ninkovic)
Subject: yucca
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:13:05
*> Sta se dobija uclanjenjem u yucca ?
Prilika da se ucestvuje u stvaranju neceg velikog :)) A drugo, trenutno radimo
na tome da za male korisnike, tj. fizicka lica, obezbedimo pravi internet,
(bar mail ako nista drugo) po najnizoj mogucoj ceni... mozda cak i po ceni
clanarine uclanjenja u YUCCA.
* Origin: SETNet:INFOSYS*informacije*NON-STOP*BG*011-414940* (38:103/114)
yucca.25postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 01:21:43 GMT
Samo mala dopuna ovog iscrpnog spiska koji je Miroslav sastavio:
BITS ima svoj domen: BITS.NET sa brojevima od 193.203.8.0 do
broja 193.203.15.0. Pretpostavljam da nas Miroslav u njegov spisak
nije ukljucio zato sto nasa ekstenzija nije nacionalna vec anacionalna.
U svakom slucaju vazno je da se na Internetu radi
yucca.26postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 11:26:33 GMT
>> BITS ima svoj domen: BITS.NET sa brojevima od 193.203.8.0 do
>> broja 193.203.15.0. Pretpostavljam da nas Miroslav u njegov spisak
>> nije ukljucio zato sto nasa ekstenzija nije nacionalna vec anacionalna.
BITS nisam ukljucio u listu zato sto jos nisu povezani
u YU-Internet. Iz istih razloga nisam u listu stavio
jos neke sisteme i mreze, kao sto je YUCCA (takodje ima
2 C-klase IP brojeva) i mreza u CAA.
Ako g. Tatomirovic bas insistira, rado cu ukljuciti i
BITS u moju listu. U tom slucaju su mi potrebne tacne
informacije o hostovima u mrezi i njihovim IP brojevima.
Najkorisnije informacije su mi iz domain-name-server-a,
ako je isti instaliran kod vas...
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.27postmast,
From: rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: Ziro racun YUCCA
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 18:00:11 GMT
Zdravo Net-ovci!
Pre neki dan smo podigli ziro racun za YUCCA (citaj: Juku). Miroslav
Hristodulo ce vec obvijestiti pucanstvo o tome detaljnije, a kao
preliminarnu informaciju ostavicu ovde njegov broj (jakako, samo za
nove dinare):
Jugoslovensko udruzenje za racunarske komunikacije
40812-678-5-104126
Pozdrav,
Rade
yucca.28postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., B)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:35:25 GMT
Miroslave,
ispade da su Beo i YU Internet veci i znacajniji od INTERNET-a...?
Ne samo BITS, vec i YUCCA i SVI OSTALI sa ove teritorije treba da
budu ukljuceni u taj spisak! Medjusobno povezivanje ce doci kad-tad!
Mnogo je znacajnije imati tacan spisak svih koji postoje, pa makar
i sa opaskom "trenutno nisu u nacionalnoj mrezi" ili slicno...
Sta ostali misle o tome?
yucca.29postmast,
From: vasilj37093d%buef78@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (sv. Vasilije)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:21:12 GMT
> Ne samo BITS, vec i YUCCA i SVI OSTALI sa ove teritorije treba da
> budu ukljuceni u taj spisak! Medjusobno povezivanje ce doci kad-tad!
> Mnogo je znacajnije imati tacan spisak svih koji postoje, pa makar
> i sa opaskom "trenutno nisu u nacionalnoj mrezi" ili slicno...
U globalu ja sam ZA, ali postoje neke prepreke...ja verujem da postoji
jako puno takvih racunara koji BI SE MOGLI vezati u mrezu, pa bi spisak vero-
vatno bio poduzi....A da li ste razmisljali o tome kako bi bilo kad bi se u
mrezu povezali racunari koji pripadaju vojsci? Setite se filma 'War games', pa
razmislite malo...Dalje, da li je moguce u taj spisak uvrstiti i racunare iz
RSK i RS? Hoce li oni u buducnosti biti povezani sa nama? Mislim da je ovo
mesto na kome pocinje politika.....:((((
Vasa
yucca.30postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:46:15 GMT
Sveti Vasilije ;-) ,
mislim da vojsci nista nebi smetalo da ima umrezene racunare - niti
bilo kome drugom - (one koji su vec registrovani i imaju dodeljene
brojeve) samo bbi ih nateralo da malo porade na svojoj sigurnosti...
A "War games" ostavi nama koji se profesionalno bavimo filmom ;-)
yucca.31postmast,
From: drajov@fon (Dragan Jovicevic)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:57:36 GMT
Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be (dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) napisa:
>
> mislim da vojsci nista nebi smetalo da ima umrezene racunare - niti
> bilo kome drugom - (one koji su vec registrovani i imaju dodeljene
> brojeve) samo bbi ih nateralo da malo porade na svojoj sigurnosti...
>
Vojska povezana TCP/IP protokolima na javnu mrezu? Pa to je takva rupa
u bezbednosti da nemam reci. Ko je god iole prckao po TCP/IP -u shvatice
o cemu pricam. Tacno, u USA postoje 'mil.net' racunari, ali se na njima
sigurno nece naci iole znacajnije stvari po vojsku, vise mu to dodje kao
neka reklama prema civilstvu, tzv. 'public relations'. Pa Novell Netware
ima bolju bezbednost u svom IPX/SPX kompletu, ako ni zbog cega, ono zbog
toga sto kroz LAN medijum prenosi lozinke u sifrovanom obliku. NAravno,
smatram da i vojska treba da ima svoje mesto na BEO Internetu i slazem
se da treba poraditi na bezbednosti, ali sumnjam da bi se obicnim
smrtnicima ponudilo bilo sta znacajno na tim racunarima. Toliko,
yucca.32postmast,
From: vasilj37093d%buef78@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (sv. Vasilije)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:40:11 GMT
> mislim da vojsci nista nebi smetalo da ima umrezene racunare - niti
> bilo kome drugom - (one koji su vec registrovani i imaju dodeljene
> brojeve) samo bbi ih nateralo da malo porade na svojoj sigurnosti...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mislim da bi ih razni hakeri i hakercici VEOMA BRZO naterali da to
urade....a pitanje da li bi oni to uopste i uspeli (znali? ;) )....
I sta bi se desilo kad bi jedan malisha (xex, ne onaj sa osmeha, nego bilo koji)
uspeo da proceprka po raznim sys diskovima? Mozda bi se zadovoljio pukim
razgledanjem?
...ili...
P.S. Ovo je samo jedan maaaali primercic....:)
yucca.33postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., B)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:40:16 GMT
pa sta? vojska ima toliko ljudi koje placa DA RADE a ne da se setaju
i uzimaju platu da bi mogla da odvoji jedan vod koji bi se bavio
samo racunarskom bezbednoscu...
uostalom, SVAKO KO UMREZAVA RACUNAR(E) MORA DA RAZMISLJA O PREDNOSTIMA
KOJE DOBIJA UMREZAVANJEM MASINA ALI I RIZICIMA KOJI IZ TOGA PROISTICU!
Svako od nas je odgovoran za sigurnost sistema kojima upravlja,
a procena isplativosti (cost/benefit analiza) je na samim
administratorima...
mislim da je ova diskusija pomalo besmislena, posto je i americka
(pa i ruska) vojska procenila da im se isplati da iamju neke racunare
umrezene kako bi brzo i jednostavno dobijali informacije...
u krajnjem slucaju INTERNET je nastao na ARPAnet "kicmi", zar ne?
yucca.34postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:50:50 GMT
>> ispade da su Beo i YU Internet veci i znacajniji od INTERNET-a...?
Pa i trebalo bi da bude tako. Moramo da pazimo i negujemo
to nase cedo koje se rodilo pre nekoliko meseci, :-)
>> Ne samo BITS, vec i YUCCA i SVI OSTALI sa ove teritorije treba da
>> budu ukljuceni u taj spisak! Medjusobno povezivanje ce doci kad-tad!
>> Mnogo je znacajnije imati tacan spisak svih koji postoje, pa makar
>> i sa opaskom "trenutno nisu u nacionalnoj mrezi" ili slicno...
Slazemo se mi, g. Tatomirovicu, ali ja jednostavno nemam vremena
da popisujem sve racunare u Jugoslaviji. Jednostavno sam krenuo
od kriterijuma da popisem samo racunare koji su povezani u ono sto
se nekad zvalo BeoInternet, a pretenduje da postane nacionalni Internet.
Uloga "velikog" Interneta i dalje ostaje ista i podrazumeva se da
svi tezimo njemu. Ali mislim da je trebalo zajednicki da se krene
u jednu agresivnu inicijativu i da bi sve mnogo bezbolnije proslo.
Da ne raspaljujem ja vise nego sto treba, nego da se slozimo ovako:
kad dobijem informaciju gde se nalazi name-server za bits.net domain,
pretrazicu ga i ubaciti informacije u sledece izdanje moje liste...
OK?
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.35postmast,
From: sony@fon (Branislav Subotic)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 01:19:09 GMT
Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be (dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote:
> mislim da vojsci nista nebi smetalo da ima umrezene racunare - niti
> bilo kome drugom - (one koji su vec registrovani i imaju dodeljene
> brojeve) samo bbi ih nateralo da malo porade na svojoj sigurnosti...
Pa koliko sma ja informisan vojska ima na mrezi oko 30-tak VAX
masina, a pominu se i neki mnogo jaci racunari. Vecina ovih resursa
je sto se tice onoga koliko sam inforisan, takoreci NIKAKO zasticena.
Te je objektivno i ocekivati koliko bi prepreka bilo na tom planu.
Ja sam pre za povezivanje drugih javnih ustanova na Beonet, a pod njima
podrazumevam Republicki Hidrometeoroloski zavod i slicne institucije,
koje vec imaju razradjene kompjuterske mreze.
>
> A "War games" ostavi nama koji se profesionalno bavimo filmom ;-)
A Vi se bavite filmom? Veoma zanimljivo. Kako je povezati sa
Vaseg stanovista kompjutere i film?
Pozdrav,
Bane
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yucca.36spantic,
-> #30, postmast> From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o.,
> Be) mislim da vojsci nista nebi smetalo da ima umrezene racunare - niti
> bilo kome drugom - (one koji su vec registrovani i imaju dodeljene
Takav film se ipak neće gledati. Vojska je zainteresovana da
nakači neke svoje računare na mrežu, ali ti računari garantovano neće
biti na njihovoj mreži.
yucca.37mdave,
-> #34, postmast■> Slazemo se mi, g. Tatomirovicu, ali ja jednostavno nemam vremena
■> da popisujem sve racunare u Jugoslaviji. Jednostavno sam krenuo
■> od kriterijuma da popisem samo racunare koji su povezani u ono sto
■> se nekad zvalo BeoInternet, a pretenduje da postane nacionalni
■> Internet.
Samo ti, Miroslave, nastavi...imaš punu podršku.
I pusti one koji mnogo pričaju a malo rade...a i to malo ne
rade onako kako treba.
yucca.38postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., B)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:02:49 GMT
Miroslave,
nisam ja napisao ono sto sam napisao ovde (i na SEZAM-u) zato sto
BITS nije u tom spisku, vec zato sto se onda tom spisku mora dati
objasnjenje (dodati) koje kaze da su to racunari koji su trenutno
povezani na tkz. Beo-Internet (YU-Internet) a da pored njih ima
i drugih umrezenih racunara...
BITS je izborio svoje "mesto pod suncem" nezavisno od vase akcije
jer smo mi tako zeleli i smatrali za najbolje iz poslovnih razloga,
to ni na koji nacin ne umanjuje vas rad, ali smatram da stvari treba
raditi adekvatno od prvog dana jer u suprtonom upadate u klopku
iz koje se akademska mreza nikada nije izvukla (sankcije su bar
tu odigrale pozitivnu ulogu)...
Ti, koliko se secam iz nekih davnih razgovora, planiras da taj spisak
okacis na Fon Gopher... Besmisleno je da neko "stigne" Internet-om
u Beograd i da misli da se stvar zavrsava na tome... Ja ovo govorim
posto ce nas racunar sadrzavati sve podatke vezane za Beo (YU) Internet
bez obzira bili mi medjusobno povezani ili ne.
Stanje akademske mreze je takvo, kao i nivo informaticke pismenosti,
da se nemoze dozvoliti rasipanje ovako dragocenih resursa...
(Primer: dok je postojala SFRJ svi su bili impresionirani slovenackom
mrezom posto je ona imala 200-300 racunara. Zasto? Pa zato sto su
Slovenci shvatili da je prednost kada su stvari vidljive jer
impresioniraju druge... )
yucca.39postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:02:53 GMT
Bane,
vojska je uzeta samo kao primer u nekom ranijem prepisivanju...
(Naravno nista im nebi falilo da se umreze, na taj nacin bi barem
deo njihovih aktivnosti bio vise podlozan javnoj kontroli...)
Sto se filmova i racunara tice, pitanje nisam razumeo... Na koju
vezu mislis: tehnicku, tehnolosku ili kreativnu?
yucca.40postmast,
From: sony@fon (Branislav Subotic)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:48:36 GMT
Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be (dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote:
> vojska je uzeta samo kao primer u nekom ranijem prepisivanju...
> (Naravno nista im nebi falilo da se umreze, na taj nacin bi barem
> deo njihovih aktivnosti bio vise podlozan javnoj kontroli...)
Treba se videti to sa vojskom. Imali bi mi dosta stvari da naucimo
od njih, a mogli bi da koristimo i njihove resurse (radio) tako
da i na taj nacin pokusamo sa jacom ekspanziom ka Internetu. Oni
bi nam mogli recimo ustupiti deo radio sredstava koja bi se mogla
koristiti kao carrier za paket radio (veza dva ili vise racunara
preko radio stanica)...Sve ostaje n aglavnim ljudima obe strane,
da se odluce koliko i kome je sta potrebno.
U ostalom sta bi im falilo da nam daju na koriscenje deo njihovih
kompjuterskih sredstava.
> Sto se filmova i racunara tice, pitanje nisam razumeo... Na koju
> vezu mislis: tehnicku, tehnolosku ili kreativnu?
Pa zanima me kako ste sve to povezali, i sto se tice tehnicke,
tehnoloske i kreativne strane. Meni je TV tehnika i produkcija
hobi vec vise od 14 godina, pa imamo u neku ruku slicne ukuse
i zanimanja.
Pozdrav,
Bane
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: Branislav Subotic, Beograd, tel.: 011/134-038 // sony@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu :
: // esubotic@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu :
:............................................................................:
yucca.41postmast,
From: sony@fon (Branislav Subotic)
Subject: Paket radio
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:12:05 GMT
E da zaboravih u predhodnoh poruci.. Nasa vojska je koliko znam
u vreme rata u Sloveniji uspela prenos podataka (kompjuterskih)
paket radiom sa brzinom od 38k bps !!! cak.
Ovo nije lose...Sto bi nap lepo dosla takva veza sa Internetom..:)
Pozdrav,
Bane
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: Branislav Subotic, Beograd, tel.: 011/134-038 // sony@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu :
: // esubotic@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu :
:............................................................................:
yucca.42postmast,
From: boza@fon (Dr.Bozidar Radenkovic)
Subject: Organizacija yu domena
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 11:32:23 GMT
Postovane kolege,
U nekoliko poruka postavilo se pitanje organizacije yu domena.
Yu domen je tek mesec dana pod nasom administracijom i jos uvek nisu
zavrseni svi poslovi koji treba da se odrade pre konacnog objavljivanja
da je yu domen operativan.
Za sada je stanje sledece:
yu domen ima sledece domene:
ac.yu - akademska mreza
co.yu - mreza komercijalnih i nekomercijalnih organizacija
mail.yu - X400 posta koja jos neko vreme ide u sloveniju.
planira se u narednom periodu otvaranje sledecih domena
gv.yu
ml.yu
mail.yu
or.yu
Otvaranje i administracija tih poddomena ce uslediti onda kad broj
racunara u operativnoj upotrebi bude bar za duplo veci od broja
potrebnih nameservera za opsluzivanje tih domena.
Za svaki poddomen je potrebno bar 2 nameservera koji rade 24x7
negde u inostranstvu.
Za ukljucivanje u ac.yu i co.yu domen je predvidjena procedura
uobicajena na Internetu. Administrator viseg domena dodeljuje
administraciju nizih domena zainteresovanim institucijama na
osnovu obrazlozenog zahteva. Dakle za registraciju poddomena
u okviru ac.yu i co.yu salje se mail (ne duzi od 1-2 strane)
sa osnovnim podacima o instituciji, odgovornim licima, internet
brojevima, nacinu povezivanja i planovima, na mailing listu
tehnickog odbora SNTI:
ac-admin@fon.bg.ac.yu
i ako su podaci u redu, poddomen ce se posle kraceg perioda
pojaviti u tabelama nameservera. Ukoliko postoji fizicka veza
sa mrezom SNTIJ, onda se dodeljuje administracija poddomena
i u toj administraciji postoji potpuna autonomija.
Pozdrav Boza
yucca.43jerry,
-> #37, mdave> Samo ti, Miroslave, nastavi...imas punu podrsku.
>
> I pusti one koji mnogo pricaju a malo rade...a i to malo ne
> rade onako kako treba.
Slazem se za podrsku ali se ne slazem sa drugom recenicom.
Koliko vidim, BITS je prilicno uradio na povezivanju u
INTERNET. Za razliku od mnogih ostalih koji takodje pricaju
ali nisu ni toliko uradili. Verovatno su u BITS-u napravili
svoj plan razvoja i drze se njega. Na nama nije da sudimo o
tome, vec ako nam se svidja, platimo clanarinu a ako ne,
gledamo svoja posla.
NHF?
yucca.44vmisev,
-> #41, postmastSubject: Re Packet Radio
> Nasa vojska je koliko znam u vreme rata u Sloveniji uspela prenos podata-
> ka (kompjuterskih) paket radiom sa brzinom od 38k bps !!!
Ako je uslov za takve brzine gubljenje rata, daj da izgubimo i ove, mo-
žda stignemo i do 64k ;)
Vladimir
yucca.45vmisev,
-> #42, postmastSubject: Re Organizacija yu domena
> Yu domen je tek mesec dana pod nasom administracijom i jos uvek nisu za-
> vrseni svi poslovi koji treba da se odrade pre konacnog objavljivanja da
> je yu domen operativan.
Da li postoji računar koji je "glavni" za .yu domen? Kada kažem "glav-
ni", mislim na način kao što je onaj u Saveznom zavodu za statistiku bio za
BITNet?
Ako da, koji je je HW u pitanju i pod kojim OS?
Vladimir
yucca.46mdave,
-> #43, jerry■>> I pusti one koji mnogo pricaju a malo rade...a i to malo ne
■>> rade onako kako treba.
■>
■> Slazem se za podrsku ali se ne slazem sa drugom recenicom.
■> Koliko vidim, BITS je prilicno uradio na povezivanju u
■> INTERNET. Za razliku od mnogih ostalih koji takodje pricaju
žek, ček...
Ja pomenuo BITS ? Gde ?
Ne znam zašto si u mojoj rečenici prepoznao BITS. ;)
yucca.47postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 11:09:57 GMT
>> Da li postoji racunar koji je "glavni" za .yu domen? Kada kazem "glav-
>> ni", mislim na nacin kao sto je onaj u Saveznom zavodu za statistiku bio
>> za BITNet?
Postoji. Taj racunar je UBBG koji je primarni name-server
za sledece domene:
.yu
.ac.yu
.bg.ac.yu
.etf.bg.ac.yu
Dakle, on je glavni za ceo YU-Internet , za akademsku mrezu
i za njen beogradski ogranak (ex BeoInternet), kao i za mrezu
na ETF-u...
Sve ove informacije mogao si videti i na mojoj listi racunara.
Racunar koji je glavni za neki domen se zove "authority host"
i predstavljen je poljem SOA u name-server listama. U mojoj
listi to je racunar koji je ispisan sa desne strane od imena
domena (domen je sa tackom na kraju)...
UBBG je VAX pod VMS operativnim sistemom.
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.48postmast,
From: beri%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E.)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:17:25 GMT
>> From: Vladimir Misev <vmisev@sezam.UUCP>
>> Subject: yucca
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 23:55:00 CET
>>
>> Subject: Re Organizacija yu domena
>>
>> Da li postoji racunar koji je "glavni" za .yu domen? Kada kazem "glav-
>> ni", mislim na nacin kao sto je onaj u Saveznom zavodu za statistiku bio za
>> BITNet?
>>
>> Ako da, koji je je HW u pitanju i pod kojim OS?
Kada je u pitanju Internet, na pitanje ko je "glavni" postoji vise
odgovora, u zavisnosti od nivoa komunikacije koji se posmatra.
Ako se posmatra mrezni (IP) nivo, pod "glavnim" racunarom za Jugu
bi se podrazumevao racunar koji vrsi rutiranje IP-saobracaja u i
iz inostranstva. Buduci da IP-veza sa inostranstvom jos uvek nije
ostvarena, o ovom racunaru nema ni govora. U svetu se, inace, u
ove svrhe koriste specijalizovani racunari - ruteri (najcesce su
to tzv. cisco-ruteri), cija je jedina uloga rutiranje saobracaja.
Naravno, za rutiranje se mogu koristiti i racunari opste namene,
sto je cesto, ali manje efikasno resenje u uslovima gustog
saobracaja, buduci da u tom slucaju racunar mora da radi i druge
stvari (npr. interaktivan rad korisnika, mrezne aplikacije itd.).
Sto se domaceg IP-saobracaja tice, trenutno "najvredniji" racunar
je UBBG. On predstavlja ruter za lokalne mreze FON-a (preko
iznajmljenje linije), Univ. u Nisu (veza tipa "IP po DECNET-u",
preko racunara EFNIS) i Instituta za fiziku u Zemunu (takodje
veza "IP po DECNET-u" preko racunara CASTOR).
U planu je reorganizacija domaceg saobracaja u akademskoj mrezi.
Za medjusobno povezivanje bi se koristili tzv. IP-ruteri (slicni
ovima malo pre pomenutim, sa "sitnom" razlikom - ovo su ruteri
domace (Ei-Nis) proizvodnje ;-((( ). Ruteri bi se postavljali u
institutu koji zahteva povezivanje i u RCUB-u. RCUB bi tako
postao neka vrsta "nacionalnog IP-cvorista". Uskoro ce se Inst.
"Mihajlo Pupin" vezati na ovaj nacin sa BeoNET-om, a kasnije
i Univ. u Nisu, koji uveliko koristi ove rutere.
Drugi nacin posmatranja problema jeste na nivou domena (domains).
Jedan domain moze opsluzivati vise racunara - nameservera, od
kojih je jedan, naravno, glavni - primarni. Za yu.-domain
primarni nameserver je UBBG, a sekundarni su RCUB i FON.
Za ostale domene situacija je sledeca:
Domain: Primary nameserver: Nameserver's IP-address:
yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.8.6
ac.yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.8.6
co.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.128.1
bg.ac.yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.8.6
ni.ac.yu. efnis.elfak.ni.ac.yu. 160.99.12.2
etf.bg.ac.yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.8.6
fon.bg.ac.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.128.1
grf.bg.ac.yu. bugf62.grf.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.8.201
rcub.bg.ac.yu. rcub.rcub.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.1.1
phy.bg.ac.yu. castor.phy.bg.ac.yu. 147.91.80.1
Nadam se da je ovo sve.
Pozdrav,
Beri
yucca.49postmast,
From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS d.o.o., Be)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:12:47 GMT
Milose,
pa sta to mi ne radimo kako treba (po tebi)? Posto vidim da smatras
da mi ne ispunjavamo obecanja koja dajemo...
Dusan
yucca.50mdave,
-> #49, postmast■> From: dtatomir%bits@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dusan Tatomirovic -- BITS
■> d.o.o., Be)
■> Milose,
■>
■> pa sta to mi ne radimo kako treba (po tebi)? Posto vidim da smatras
■> da mi ne ispunjavamo obecanja koja dajemo...
Dosta bre sa tim prepoznavanjem. ;) Ja ni Vas ni BITS nisam
pomenuo. :)
PS. A ono "Milose"...je l' to macro ? :)
yucca.51vmisev,
-> #48, postmast> Ruteri bi se postavljali u institutu koji zahteva povezivanje i u RCUB-u.
> RCUB bi tako postao neka vrsta "nacionalnog IP-cvorista".
Drago mi je čuti. E sad, pitam dalje: to znači da će RCUB da postane
primary nameserver za .yu? I dalje me zanima, kad "ufatimo" providera, da li
će ta veza izgledati RCUB ---> Provider ili RCUB---> cisco-ruter ---> Provi-
der?
Koliko znam, RCUB treba da ponese i teret BITNet saobraćaja. Da li će
on pod svim tim okolnostima ostati i studentska mašina, ili će se specijali-
zovati?
> Nadam se da je ovo sve.
Hvala na detaljnom objašnjenju :)
Vladimir
vmisev@sezam.co.yu
p3misev@rcub.rcub.bg.ac.yu
yucca.52postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: YU-Internet hosts list
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 16:21:49 GMT
Archive-name: yu-int.list.01aug94
Last-modified: 29 Jul 1994
YU-Internet hosts list
----------------------
01 Aug 1994 (issue 07)
----------------------
by Miroslav Hristodulo
ehristod@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
sezam.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
ubbg.yu (m) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
ac.yu. (d) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
co.yu. (d) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
ac.yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
etf.ac.yu (m) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
bg.ac.yu. (d) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
ni.ac.yu. (d) efnis.elfak.ni.ac.yu
bg.ac.yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
yubgss21.bg.ac.yu 147.91.64.1
*.med.bg.ac.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
rzs.bg.ac.yu (m) rcub.rcub.bg.ac.yu
ubbg.bg.ac.yu (m) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
*.vin.bg.ac.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
etf.bg.ac.yu. (d) ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
fon.bg.ac.yu. (d) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
grf.bg.ac.yu. (d) bugf62.grf.bg.ac.yu
phy.bg.ac.yu. (d) castor.phy.bg.ac.yu +
rcub.bg.ac.yu. (d) rcub.rcub.bg.ac.yu
etf.bg.ac.yu. ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
buefgx.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.2
buef78.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.3
ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.6
buefhp.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.17
orao.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.33
emulex.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.41
hp360.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.49
el.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.51
merlin.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.61
at.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.74
ahil.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.76
athena.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.78
pluton.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.101
kiklop.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.105
soko.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.9.35
vrabac.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.9.37
kornjaca.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.9.71
virus.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.9.73
el2.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.10.2
el3.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.10.3
apollo.etf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.10.50
fon.bg.ac.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
fon.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.1
osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.8
magnum.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.16
kolt.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.18
ouzi.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.20
labis.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.65
labis1.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.66
labis2.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.67
labis3.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.68
labis4.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.69
laboi.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.96
breza.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.128
breza1.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.129
breza2.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.130
aop-pc1.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.138
aop-pc2.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.139
aop-pc3.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.140
pds.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.150
statlab.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.128.224
ubbg_slip.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.129.8
sys1_slip.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.129.20
sys2_slip.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.129.30
sys1.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.129.40
sys2.fon.bg.ac.yu 147.91.129.50
ftp.fon.bg.ac.yu (a) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
gopher.fon.bg.ac.yu (a) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
ns.fon.bg.ac.yu (a) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
simlab.fon.bg.ac.yu (a) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
grf.bg.ac.yu. bugf62.grf.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
bugf62.grf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.201
bugraf.grf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.202
irc.grf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.203
zs.grf.bg.ac.yu 147.91.21.2
phy.bg.ac.yu. castor.phy.bg.ac.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
castor.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.1 +
jason.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.2 +
pollux.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.3 +
string.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.11 +
photon.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.12 +
quark.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.13 +
space.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.14 +
time.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.15 +
atom.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.16 +
metric.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.17 +
action.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.18 +
vacuum.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.19 +
chaos.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.20 +
fusion.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.21 +
laser.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.22 +
star.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.23 +
solid.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.24 +
energy.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.25 +
matter.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.26 +
spin.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.27 +
plasma.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.28 +
exp.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.29 +
gauge.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.30 +
angle.phy.bg.ac.yu 147.91.80.31 +
rcub.bg.ac.yu. rcub.rcub.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
rcub.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.1.1
yuearn.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.1.1
athena.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.2.1
apollo.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.2.2
adonis.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.3.2
bucc.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.77
x25gate.rcub.bg.ac.yu 147.91.8.129
vin.bg.ac.yu. rt270.vin.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
rt270.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.30.1
jesi.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.30.5
nevada.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.31.11
mali.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.31.12
lab120.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.31.120
gaja.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.32.2
pong.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.32.3
mara.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.2
joca.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.3
fata.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.5
krum.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.6
darko.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.7
mini.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.8
konan.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.9
svetlana.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.33.10
ljuba.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.34.1
voja.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.34.2
elektron.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.34.10
vlada.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.40.1
milica.vin.bg.ac.yu 147.91.40.2
joint.vin.bg.ac.yu (m) rt270.vin.bg.ac.yu
ni.ac.yu. efnis.elfak.ni.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
dusicapc.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.10
draganpc.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.11
sonjapc.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.12
nesapc.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.13
tsapl.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.18
pslaser.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.19
mita.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.20
pc486.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.22
dosserv.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.2.1
dusanpc.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.2.2
pc486.sigraf.ni.ac.yu 160.99.2.3
elfakrt.ele.ni.ac.yu 160.99.10.4
masfak.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.20.2
tek4319.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.2
mackatica.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.3
draganpc.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.4
sucapc.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.5
evidmas.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.6
nesamf.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.7
dekmfpc.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.8
lipspc.masfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.21.9
grafak.grafak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.30.2
medfak.medfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.41.1
medrt.med.ni.ac.yu 160.99.41.11
filfak.filfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.50.2
prafak.prafak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.60.1
eknfakrt.eknfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.70.1
eknux.eknfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.71.1
ekndos.eknfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.71.2
znrfak.znrfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.80.1
mining.mining.ni.ac.yu 160.99.110.2
stolepc.mining.ni.ac.yu 160.99.111.3
bm200pc.mining.ni.ac.yu 160.99.111.4
sg310.dinb.ni.ac.yu 160.99.121.1
banka.dinb.ni.ac.yu 160.99.121.2
pc01.dinb.ni.ac.yu 160.99.121.3
pc02.dinb.ni.ac.yu 160.99.121.4
pc03.dinb.ni.ac.yu 160.99.121.5
pc04.dinb.ni.ac.yu 160.99.121.6
domzux.domz.ni.ac.yu 160.99.131.1
domzrt.domz.ni.ac.yu 160.99.131.2
draganapc.domz.ni.ac.yu 160.99.131.3
domzdos.domz.ni.ac.yu 160.99.131.4
razvojsl.x25ip.ni.ac.yu 160.99.242.1
x25gatesl.x25ip.ni.ac.yu 160.99.242.2
pcslip.dialup.ni.ac.yu 160.99.251.51
*.dinb.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.domz.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.eknfak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.filfak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.grafak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.masfak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.medfak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.mining.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.prafak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.sigraf.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
*.znrfak.ni.ac.yu (m) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
elfak.ni.ac.yu. (d) unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
junis.ni.ac.yu. (d) ban.junis.ni.ac.yu
elfak.ni.ac.yu. unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
earth.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.1
venus.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.2
saturn.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.3
mars.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.4
uranus.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.5
pluto.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.6
pcvan.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.7
moon.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.8
elfak.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.10
pcmiki.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.20
pcnikola.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.21
zevs.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.31
apolon.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.32
dionis.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.33
hera.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.34
had.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.35
orion.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.36
sizif.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.37
perun.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.11.38
unitop.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.12.1
efnis.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.12.2
desktp.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.12.3
pc305.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.12.4
pc108.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.12.9
dekipc.elfak.ni.ac.yu 160.99.12.31
junis.ni.ac.yu. ban.junis.ni.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
ban.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.1
grafadm.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.2
netrekt.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.3
razvoj.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.4
korunpc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.5
cecapc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.6
milanpc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.7
sekpc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.8
rzsspc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.9
racunpc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.14
tsslip.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.15
tsslip1.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.16
tsrazvoj.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.17
router1.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.21
gagapc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.23
w35.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.25
biblpc.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.26
eps12.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.27
router2.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.31
iolan8.junis.ni.ac.yu 160.99.1.50
co.yu. fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
----------------------------------------------------
*.b92.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
*.caa.co.yu (m) osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu +
*.mr-net.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
rns.nis.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
*.setnet.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
sezam.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
vreme.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
zed.co.yu (m) fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
b92.co.yu. b92.b92.co.yu
----------------------------------------------------
b92.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.1
sisoje.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.2
three.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.3
four.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.4
five.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.5
six.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.6
seven.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.7
eight.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.8
nine.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.9
hq.b92.co.yu 193.203.3.10 +
caa.co.yu. zeus.caa.co.yu +
----------------------------------------------------
zeus.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.17 +
zamir-bg.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.18 +
kico.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.24 +
alef.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.25 +
aladin.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.26 +
mandrak.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.27 +
civic.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.28 +
paris.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.29 +
pax.caa.co.yu 193.203.3.30 +
mr-net.co.yu. mrsys1.mr-net.co.yu
----------------------------------------------------
mrsys1.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.1
mrsys2.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.2
mrsys3.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.3
mrsys10.mr-net.co.yu 193.203.5.10
iolan.mr-net.co.yu ?
------
legend
domain.name. authority.host
----------------------------------------------------
host.domain main.IP.number
alias.name (a) primary.name
host.domain (m) mail.exchanger
subdomain.name. (d) primary.server
+ ... new or changed in this issue
? ... unknown name or number
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.53postmast,
From: beri%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E.)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 16:39:39 GMT
>> From: Vladimir Misev <vmisev@sezam.UUCP>
>> Subject: yucca
>> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 94 17:30:00 CET
>>
>> Drago mi je cuti. E sad, pitam dalje: to znaci da ce
>> RCUB da postane primary nameserver za .yu? I dalje me zanima,
>> kad "ufatimo" providera, da li ce ta veza izgledati RCUB --->
>> Provider ili RCUB---> cisco-ruter ---> Provi- der?
Polako ... u ovom pitanju su umesana dva posebna problema:
prvo, da li je UBBG ili RCUB primary, apsolutno je svejedno.
Trenutno UBBG predstavlja "v.d." primary nameservera, jer
RCUB jos uvek nema pouzdanu TCP/IP-vezu sa ostatkom mreze,
sto funkcija nameservera izricito zahteva. Da li ce tu ulogu
kasnije imati UBBG, RCUB ili neko treci, ostaje da se vidi,
zavisno od konkretne situacije.
Pitanje routinga prema provideru nije resen do kraja.
Trenutno je u opticaju vise mogucih resenja, ali nijedno
nije konkretno realizovano. Sve zavisi od providera koji
bude bio u igri ...
>> Koliko znam, RCUB treba da ponese i teret BITNet
>> saobracaja. Da li ce on pod svim tim okolnostima ostati i
>> studentska masina, ili ce se specijali- zovati?
Greska! U recenici treba primeniti PROSLO vreme !!! ;-(((
Ne "treba", vec "trebalo je". BITNET se tretira kao naucna
saradnja sa Zapadom i kao takva podleze sankcijama UN. U
slucaju da "naucne" sankcije otpadnu, moguce je razmisljati
i o reaktiviranju veze Beograd - Linc, BITNET-u itd. Ista
linija bi se tada mogla iskoristiti i za Internet, sto je
bilo u planu 1992. pred uvodjenje sankcija.
Da li ce "veliki plavi" ostati studentski racunar, to je
najbolje pitati direktno ljude u RCUB-u. S obzirom na
mogucnosti doticnog racunara, mala je verovatnoca da se
racunar koristi samo za rutiranje saobracaja.
Pozdrav,
Beri
yucca.54postmast,
From: Aleksandar.Jevic@f121.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Jevic)
Subject: Paket radio
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 17:38:11
PS>Ako se ne varam, u Sloveniji i danas postoji PaketRadio trasa koja radi
PS>na 56k bps. PaketRadio modemi se mogu koristiti za TCP/IP, a to je
PS>cini mi se upravo i potrebno za Internet? Ako nekom treba literature,
PS>mail me. Imam u datoteci, ali se ne razumem u Internet veze pa mi nije
PS>bog zna koliko jasno.
Ja sam zainteresovan, pa kad budes imao vremena....:)
---FidoPCB v1.0 [NR]
* Origin: AV Manta - Novi Beograd - SETNet (38:103/121)
yucca.55postmast,
From: Aleksandar.Jevic@f121.n103.z38.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Jevic)
Subject: Paket radio
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 17:38:11
PS>Ako se ne varam, u Sloveniji i danas postoji PaketRadio trasa koja radi
PS>na 56k bps. PaketRadio modemi se mogu koristiti za TCP/IP, a to je
PS>cini mi se upravo i potrebno za Internet? Ako nekom treba literature,
PS>mail me. Imam u datoteci, ali se ne razumem u Internet veze pa mi nije
PS>bog zna koliko jasno.
Ja sam zainteresovan, pa kad budes imao vremena....:)
---FidoPCB v1.0 [NR]
* Origin: AV Manta - Novi Beograd - SETNet (38:103/121)
yucca.56postmast,
From: rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
Subject: please ignore
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 13:41:25 GMT
ovo je samo test
yucca.57postmast,
From: evecerin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Vecerina Dragan, ETF Belgrade)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 19:25:40 GMT
>From: rade+@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Radivoje D. Zonjic)
>Subject: please ignore
>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 13:41:25 GMT
>
>ovo je samo test
>
>
Pa je l' radi bar kako valja?
yucca.58postmast,
From: emilosem%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (UBBG::EMILOSEM)
Subject: SVETSKIDANSTANDARDIZACIJE
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:52:13 GMT
SAVEZNI ZAVOD ZA STANDARDIZACIJU
BEOGRAD, Kneza Milo{a 20, p.f. 933
Telefon: 381-11-681-999/113
Telefaks:381-11-235-1036
PRELIMINARNO SAOP[TENJE
-----------------------
STANDARDI I POTRO[A^I
PARTNERI ZA BOLJI SVET
- Proizvodja~i za potro{a~e -
PRVI DAN: 13 OKTOBAR 1994.
=========================
-OTVARANJE SAVETOVANJA 9h-
I BLOK: STANDARDI ZA POTRO[A^E
1. Uloga medjunarodne standardizacije u za{titi potro{a~a - LJ.
Pavkovi}, @. Mena{e
2. Standardi za proizvode {iroke potro{nje u oblasti hemije - L.
Kana~ki
3. Stanje standardizacije u oblasti ma{instva sa aspekta
bezbednosti od interesa za potro{a~e - J. Pajta{
4. Standardizacija u oblasti elektri~nih aparata za op{tu upotrebu
- DJ. Lisica
5. Standardi u oblasti rudarstva i metalurgije - aspekt kori{}enja
i upotrebe proizvoda - DJ. Tufegd`i}
6. Standardi u oblasti gradjevinarstva u funkciji za{tite od po`ara
i u{tede energije - K. Ivanovi}
7. Standardi i propisi u oblasti tekstilne industrije - I. Perovi}
8. Standardi za de~ije igra~ke - B. Lekovi}
9. Standardizacija u oblasti prerade drveta (kancelarijski, {kolski
i ku}ni name{taj) - S. Nikoli}
10. EDI u za{titi potro{a~a - G. Stojanovi}
11. Homologacija - za{tita potro{a~a - V. Popovi}
12. Saobra}aj - motorne testere ili(i) usluge - V. Labovi}
II BLOK: POLJOPRIVREDNO-PREHRAMBENI PROIZVODI, EKOLOGIJA I KONTROLA
KVALITETA NA TR`I[TU
1. Standardi i propisi u oblasti poljoprivredno-prehrambenih
proizvoda - N. Andri}
2. Atestiranje proizvoda u prehrambenoj industriji - LJ. Sta{i}
3. Ekolo{ki znak u funkciji informisanja potro{a~a - F. ^oha
4. Obezbedjenje kvaliteta u odnosu na potro{a~e i znak kvaliteta -
D. Jankovi}
5. Referat D. Todi}a - Institut za meso
6. Pregled kvaliteta poljoprivredno-prehrambenih proizvoda na
tr`i{tu Beograda - P. Bogosavljevi}, Pokret potro{a~a Beograd
7. Kontrola kvaliteta mesa i mesnih preradjevina - Srba Pavlovi},
rep. inspektor
8. Standardi i propisi za vodu, zemlji{te i vazduh - M. Miljkovi}
9. Referat iz ekologije - dr P. Radi~evi}
10. Softver sa aspekta potro{a~a - referat "Vin~a"
DRUGI DAN, 14 OKTOBAR 1994. GOD.
================================
9h Sve~ani deo
# Pozdravni govori predstavnika
- Saveznih organa
- Republi~kih organa
# Dobrodo{lica doma{ina Predsednika grada Beograda
# Poruka za Dan standardizacije - Direktor SZS-a, V. Tanaskovi}
11h Nastavak rada
- Za{tita potro{a~a u Zakonu o standardizaciji - Z. Milivojevi}
- Izlaganje predsednika YUCA-a
- Program jednistvene kontrole Pokreta za potro{a~e grada
Beograda
- Pokret potro{a~a Podgorice
- Pokret potro{a~a Novog Sada
oko 12h
- Promocija JUS Kataloga za 1994. godinu.
Mesto odr`avanja: Beograd,
Hotel "Jugoslavija".
U Beogradu 1994-08-04
--------------------------------------
POVOD ZA ODR@AVANJE SAVETOVANJA: "SVETSKI DAN STANDARDIZACIJE"
ORGANIZATORI: SAVEZNI ZAVOD ZA STANDARDIZACIJU
POSLOVNA POLITIKA,d.d.
^asopis KVALITET
NAPOMENA: Izlo`eni radovi }e biti
objavljeni u oktobarskom broju
~asopisa KVALITET
ZA BLI@E INFORMACIJE OBRATITI SE NA TELEFON: 381-11-681-999/113
yucca.59postmast,
From: esubotic%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Branislav Subotic, Beograd)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:22:15 GMT
Archive-name: site-setup
Version: $Id: site-setup,v 1.123 1993/12/27 15:44:47 jik Exp $
How to Become a USENET Site
Jonathan Kamens <jik@security.ov.com>
Editor and Poster
Chris Lewis <clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca>
Replies and comments to sitefaq@ferret.ocunix.on.ca, automatic if
you followup or reply to this article.
This article attempts to summarize, in a general way, the steps
involved in setting up a machine to be on the USENET.
It assumes that you already have some sort of USENET access
(otherwise, how did you get this article?), or at the very least, that
you have ftp or mail server access to get to some of the files
mentioned in it, and that you are trying to configure your own site to
be on the USENET after using some other site for some period of time.
If this assumption is incorrect, then ask whoever made this article
available to you to help you get access to the resources mentioned
below.
Before reading this posting, you should be familiar with the
contents of the introductory postings in the news.announce.newusers
newsgroup, most importantly the posting entitled "USENET Software:
History and Sources". Many of the terms used below are defined in
those postings. The news.announce.newusers postings (and the other
Usenet postings mentioned below) are accessible in the periodic
posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.70.0.24], in /pub/usenet via
anonymous ftp, or via E-mail by sending a message to
mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu (send a message with "help" in the body to
get more information).
*************************
There are five basic steps involved in configuring a machine to be a
USENET site.
1. Make the decision -- do you *really* want to do this?
If you just want to read USENET yourself, then putting your machine
onto the USENET is probably not what you want to do. The process of
doing so can be time-consuming, and regular maintenance is also
required. Furthermore, the resources consumed by a full USENET setup
on a machine are significant:
- disk space for the programs (a few Mb for the binaries, another
couple of Mb for any sources you keep online);
- disk space for the articles - currently (as of March, 1994)
around 3500Mb a month, although it is possible to minimize
the amount of disk space consumed by articles by carefully
selecting which newsgroups and/or hierarchies you wish to
receive;
- modem time (possibly long-distance) transferring the articles to
your machine (assuming that you are using a modem rather than an
Internet NNTP connection); A full feed is getting around
15 hours per day using V.32bis modems at 14.4Kb even compressed;
and
- fees if you're paying someone to provide you with a news feed.
You might choose, instead, to get an account on a public-access
USENET site on which you can read news by dialing up. See, for
example, the "Nixpub posting" articles in comp.misc and the "PDIAL"
article in alt.bbs.lists.
Even if there are no public-access USENET sites that are a local
phone call away from you, you might still choose this approach,
especially if you only read a few (low traffic) groups. Using a
public-access site that is accessible via PC Pursuit or some other
packet network might still be cheaper and/or easier than setting up
the feed, transferring the news and configuring your machine to store
news locally.
You should be sure that the benefits you are going to get by storing
news locally are going to outweigh the costs before deciding to
proceed. In summary, however, let me say that this decision is not
always a clear one. To explain why, let me include an alternative
perspective, from joe@jshark.rn.com, on why getting a feed may be
appropriate even for a single-user machine:
When you get to long distance calls, reading the news on-line gets the
cost rising fast. A few seconds to skip an article you've no interest
in, maybe a minute to take in a good one plus more time to save it and
download it later. But when the whole lot is batched together (as
news), a) it only takes a few minutes and b) it's all conveniently
automated. Sure, configuring the hardware and software may take a
(small) time - but it's something you only do once.
And unless you want to get comp.*, the disk space needed is not that
great. (20Mb disks are about 100 dollars over here [and the
Mb-per-dollar ratio is rising constantly - jik]; the saving in phone
charges would pay for that in a few months)
I also find that replying takes time, and this is where on-line
"reading" would start to really burn dollars! The alternative, {
download - logout - compose reply - dial back in - login - post (or
mail) reply}, is a) inconvenient and b) still costly.
Perhaps I see "news administration" as a simple task *because* I only
provide news to one other site and get a very limited feed. (No
overflowing disks, no "disappearing inodes", neither angry users nor
management.) The initial stages were a bit fraught (200kb batches
being bounced back because of permission problems :-( ), but very
little effort now.
2. Find a site to feed you news and/or mail.
In order to make your machine a USENET site, you need to find other
sites on the USENET that are willing to feed you news and/or mail.
You might want to locate more than one such site if you want higher
reliability.
Finding feeds for a UUCP site.
If you are going to be using a modem (and, presumably, UUCP) to
transfer your news and mail, then then there are several resources you
can use when trying to locate a feed site:
a. Comp.mail.maps
Find the postings in the comp.mail.maps newsgroup for your state,
country, or whatever. Look in it for sites that sound like they are
local to you. Contact their administrators and ask if they would be
willing to give you a feed.
Comp.mail.maps is archived at several anonymous ftp and mail
server sites, including ftp.uu.net, so you can examine map entries
even if the maps have expired at your news-reading site (or if you
do not currently have USENET access). See the article entitled
"UUCP map for README" in the comp.mail.maps newsgroup or archives
for more information about the maps.
The comp.mail.maps postings are also archived in rtfm.mit.edu's
periodic posting archive, which was mentioned in detail above.
b. News.admin.misc
Post a message to news.admin.misc. If at all possible, post it
with a restricted distribution, so that only people who are likely
to be able to give you a feed will have to get it (e.g. if you have
posting access on a machine in Massachusetts, and the site you're
setting up is going to be in Massachusetts, then post with a
distribution of "ne").
Note that you can post to news.admin.misc even if you do not have
direct USENET access right now, as long as you have E-mail access --
send your message to news.admin.misc.usenet@decwrl.dec.com.
However, if you use this gateway, you probably can't use a
restricted distribution as described above, since the gateway
probably isn't in the distribution you want to post to, and besides,
it's not clear that it listens to the "Distribution:" header in
postings that are mailed to it. (Other gateways:
news.admin.misc@pws.bull.com, news-admin-misc@cs.utexas.edu,
news.admin.misc@news.cs.indiana.edu)
When posting your message, try to be as specific as possible.
Mention where you are, how you intend to transfer news from your
feed site to you (e.g. what kind of modem, how fast), approximately
how many newsgroups you are going to want to get and from which
hierarchies, and perhaps what kind of machine it's all for. A
descriptive Subject line such as "news feed wanted -- Boston, MA" is
also useful.
If there is a regional hierarchy for the distribution in which you
want a feed, then you might want to post a message in one of the
regional newsgroups as well, or cross-post your message to one of
the regional newsgroups. Look first for an "admin" group (e.g.
"ne.admin"), then (if there is no admin group) a "config" group,
then for a "wanted" group.
c. Commercial services
If all else fails, you may have to resort to paying someone to
provide you with a feed. I know about the following service
providers:
a2i communications
1211 Park Avenue #202
San Jose, CA 95126
Data: (408) 293-9010 (v.32bis, v.32), (408) 293-9020 (PEP)
(log in as "guest")
Telnet: a2i.rahul.net [192.160.13.1] (log in as "guest")
Ftp: ftp.rahul.net [192.160.13.1], get /pub/BLURB
info@rahul.net (a daemon will auto-reply)
(UUCP, news feeds, mail feeds, MX forwarding, name service)
Anterior Technology
P.O. Box 1206
Menlo Park, CA 94026-1206
Voice: (415) 328-5615
Fax: (415) 322-1753
info@fernwood.mpk.ca.us
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
CERFnet
P.O. Box 85608
San Diego, CA 92186-9784
Voice: (800) 876-CERF
help@cerf.net
(connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Attn: David C. Menges
Colorado School of Mines
1500 Illinois
Golden, CO 80401
Voice: 303-273-3471
dcm@csn.org
(UUCP, news feeds)
connect.com.au (Australia)
Attn: Hugh Irvine (hugh@connect.com.au)
Ben Golding (bgg@connect.com.au)
Voice: 61 3 528 2239
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, new feed, PPP, SLIP
Demon Internet Systems
internet@demon.co.uk
(Internet access, SLIP, PPP, name service)
DMConnection
267 Cox St.
Hudson, Ma. 01749
Voice: (508) 568-1618
Fax: (508) 562-1133
info@dmc.com (a daemon will respond, followed by a human being, if
necessary)
(UUCP, news feeds, mail feeds, MX forwarding, file servers, mailing lists,
anonymous FTP and UUCP address to archives, domain registration,
FTP, SLIP, etc.)
ExNet Systems Ltd
37 Honley Road
Catford
London, SE6 2HY, UK
Voice: +44 81 244 0077
Fax: +44 81 244 0078
exnet@exnet.com or exnet@exnet.co.uk
(UUCP, mail and news feeds)
Gordian
20361 Irvine Ave
Santa Ana Heights, CA 92707 (Orange County)
Voice: (714) 850 0205
Fax: (714) 850 0533
E-mail: uucp-request@gordian.com
(UUCP, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds (for SoCal sites only))
Hatch Communications
8635 Falmouth Ave., Suite 105
Playa del Rey, CA 90293
Voice: (310) 305-8758
E-mail: info@hatch.socal.com
(UUCP Usenet news and e-mail, SLIP connections for ftp and telnet)
HoloNet
Information Access Technologies, Inc.
46 Shattuck Square, Suite 11
Berkeley, CA 94704-1152
Voice: 510-704-0160, Fax: 510-704-8019, Modem: 704-1058
Telnet: holonet.net
E-mail: info@holonet.net (automated reply)
Support: support@holonet.net
(UUCP/USENET feeds, local to 850+ cities nationwide)
infocom Public Access Unix,
White Bridge House,
Old Bath Road,
CHARVIL, Berkshire,
United Kingdom,
RG10 9QJ.
Voice: +44 [0] 734 344000
Fax: +44 [0] 734 320988
Data: +44 [0] 734 340055 (you can register online interactively)
E-mail: info@infocom.co.uk (send a message with ALL in the subject)
(UUCP, Usenet Feeds and Internet Email to UNIX, DOS, ATARI, AMIGA, MAC)
Internet Initiative Japan, Inc.
Hoshigaoka Bldg.,
2-11-2, Nagata-Cho,
Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100 Japan
Voice: +81 3 3580 3781
Fax: +81 3 3580 3782
E-mail: info@iij.ad.jp
(UUCP, news feeds, mail feeds, MX forwarding, name service,
anonymous FTP and UUCP services, domain registration)
JvNCnet
B6 von Neumann Hall
Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08543
Voice: (800) 35-TIGER
market@jvnc.net
(connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
MSEN, Inc.
628 Brooks Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
Voice: (313) 998-4562
Ftp: ftp.msen.com [148.59.1.2], see /pub/vendor/msen/*
info@msen.com
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
MV Communications, Inc.
P.O. Box 4963
Manchester, NH 03108-4963
Voice: (603) 429-2223
Data: (603) 429-1735 (log in as "info" or "rates")
info@mv.mv.com
(UUCP, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
NEARnet (New England Academic and Resarch Network)
10 Moulton Street
Cambridge, MA 02138
Voice: (617) 873-8730
Fax: (617) 873-5620
nearnet-join@nic.near.net
(connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds (for
NEARnet sites))
Netcom - Online Communication Services
4000 Moorpark Avenue - Suite 209
San Jose, CA 95117
Voice: (408) 554-UNIX
Data: (408) 241-9760 (login guest, no password)
Telnet: netcom.netcom.com [192.100.81.100] (login guest)
E-mail: info@netcom.com
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds,
other services)
Northwest Nexus Inc.
P.O. Box 40597
Bellevue, WA 98015-4597
Voice: (206) 455-3505
Data: (206) 382-6245 (log in as "new")
Fax: (206) 455-4672
info@nwnexus.wa.com
(Internet access, SLIP/PPP (dial-up, dedicated, 56k, FT-1), UUCP,
news feeds, mail feeds, MX forwarding, name service, NIC
registration, Nutshell books)
| The PC User Group
| PO Box 360
| Harrow
| London.
| Voice: +44 81 863 1191
| Fax: +44 81 963 6095
| hostmaster@ibmpcug.co.uk or hostmaster@ibmpcug.uucp
| (UUCP, mail and news feeds)
Performance Systems International, Inc.
11800 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 1100
Reston, VA 22091
Voice: (703) 620-6651 or (800) 827-7482
Computerized info: all-info@psi.com
Human-based info: info@psi.com
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
Portal Communications Company
20863 Stevens Creek Boulevard
Suite 200
Cupertino, CA 95014
Voice: (408) 973-9111
Fax: (408) 725-1580
Data: (408) 973-8091 (V.32/PEP) Call for local node near you. Nodes
provided by Sprintnet or Tymnet have additional charges.
Telnet: portal.com
Email: CS@portal.com
(UUCP, news feeds, mail feeds, MX forwarding, mailing lists, file
archives, domain registration, FTP, SLIP/PPP, commercial
menu-based online service, shell, telnet, irc, gopher, interface
software available for Amiga, PC, and Sun)
SURAnet
8400 Baltimore Blvd.
College Park, MD 20742
Voice: (301) 982-3214
Fax: (301) 982-4605
E-mail: news-admin@sura.net
(connectivity, name service (for SURAnet sites), news feeds (for
SURAnet sites))
TDK Consulting Services
119 University Ave. East
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada N2J 2W9
Voice: (519) 888-0766
Fax: (519) 747-0881
E-mail: info@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
(UUCP News/Mail feeds)
UUNET Canada, Inc.
1 Yonge St., Suite 1400
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M5E 1J9
Voice: (416) 368-6621
Fax: (416) 369-0515
info@uunet.ca or uunet-ca@uunet.uu.net
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
UUNET Technologies Inc.
3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 570
Falls Church, VA 22042
Voice: (703) 204-8000
Fax: (703) 204-8001
info@uunet.uu.net
AlterNet (network connectivity) info: alternet-info@uunet.uu.net
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
UUNORTH, Inc.
Box 445, Station E
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M6H 4E3
Voice: (416) 537-4930 or (416) 225-UNIX
Fax: (416) 537-4890
WIMSEY
Attn: Stuart Lynne
225B Evergreen Dr.
Port Moody, BC, V3H 1S1
Voice: 604-93-7532
sl@vanbc.wimsey.bc.ca
(UUCP, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
Xenon Systems
Attn: Julian Macassey
742 1/2 North Hayworth Ave.
Hollywood, CA 90046-7142
Voice: (213) 654-4495
postmaster@bongo.tele.com
(UUCP, news feeds, mail feeds)
| XMission
| PO Box 510063
| Salt Lake City, UT 84151-0063
| Data: (801) 539-0900 (log in as "guest")
| Telnet: xmission.com [198.60.22.2] (log in as "guest")
| Ftp: xmission.com [198.60.22.2], get /pricing
| support@xmission.com
| (UUCP, news feeds, mail feeds, MX forwarding, name service, SLIP/PPP)
Note that some of these are actually network service providers which
provide Internet connectivity, but some will also provide news feeds
to their customers. For more information about many network service
providers, see the anonymous ftp file /nsfnet/referral-list on
nnsc.nsf.net. Also, the book "Connecting to the Internet" (see the
"Bibliography" section below) contains a list of Internet service
providers and instructions for getting an updated version of the
list.
Some regional network service providers, especially in large urban
areas, offer both UUCP and TCP/IP service via modem or leased line.
If you can find such a company, the cost of a dedicated (leased
line) Internet connection will often be cheaper and more desirable
than a UUCP connection, if you plan on using it for a full newsfeed
or for frequent downloading. Some companies can offer combined
voice and data connections using T1 links, for large-scale users
seeking both Internet access and low-cost toll telephone service.
For more information about the possibility of hooking up to the
network, see the "How to Get Information about Networks" posting in
news.announce.newusers.
NOTE: I am not endorsing any of these companies in any way. I
don't know anything about the level or quality of service either of
them provides. They are simply the ones I know about. If you know
of a site that provides feeds and think it should be mentioned here,
please let me know.
d. Special information for European users
(This section discusses the various big European networks. There
are also smaller service providers, such as ExNet Systems (see
above), in Europe.)
In Europe, you can get a feed from one of EUNet's national
networks. They charge for feeds but are "non-commercial," which
means (I assume) that the fees go to the maintenance of the
networks. Most provide help on getting started, can provide source
for the mail and news software and lists of sites who have indicated
they will provide feeds. They also act as Internet forwarders (see
below for more information on this). To contact them, try sending
mail to postmaster@country.eu.net or newsmaster@country.eu.net. The
"country" in this case should be whatever country you're in.
Note that the national networks have a "no redistribution" policy
and have the option to cut off sites which break this rule. There
are other groups (such as sublink); see (a) and (b) above for
suggestions on how to contact them.
Subscribing to EUNet or to one of the NALnets (National Networks)
currently requires to be member of EurOpen either directly or
indirectly by being member of a NALUUG (National Unix User Group)
affiliated to EurOpen.
In the UK, smaller scale users and individuals can also get news
access via Demon Internet Systems. They provide very cheap dialup
Internet access, SLIP, PPP and name service entries. Contact them
(contact information is given above) for more information.
There are also several other network services providers, already
operational (or to become soon available for some of them).
Contrary to EUnet which generally accepts any organization as
customer, those networks may have restrictions and accept only some
kind of customers (generally academic and/or research) as they are
sometimes government funded.
Some of these networks are NORDunet (northern Europe), FUNET
(Finland), SWITCH (Switzerland), EASInet (European Academic
Supercomputing Initiative, mainly if not totally funded by IBM), DFN
(Germany), PIPEX(UK) and RENATER (France).
There are several anonymous ftp sites from which information about
all of these networks and about networking in Europe in general
might be obtained. They are ftp.switch.ch, ftp.easi.net,
ftp.ripe.net, ftp.eu.net, corton.inria.fr and nic.nordu.net.
Note that it is to your advantage to try to find a feed site that is
directly on the Internet, if you are not going to be. Getting a feed
from a site on the Internet will allow that site to act as your MX
forwarder (see section 5 below), and the fact that you are only one
hop off of the Internet will make both mail and news delivery fast
(assuming that the feed you get from the Internet site is for both
mail and news; of course, if you can only find someone willing to
forward mail to you but not to traffic with you the heavier load of a
news feed, then your mail delivery will still be fast).
Finding feeds for an Internet site.
It is beyond the scope of this document to discuss how you can get
onto the Internet yourself. However, many of the service providers
listed above provide Internet connections as well as newsfeeds and
will help you through the process of getting onto the Internet.
Furthermore, the book "Connecting to the Internet" (see the
"Bibliography" section below) is a step-by-step to the process of
getting connected, and contains a more extensive list of Internet
service providers.
If you are already on the Internet and would like your news feed to
be over the Internet rather than over a modem link, then you might
want to look in the UUCP maps in comp.mail.maps, as mentioned above,
since many USENET sites that are on the Internet are mentioned there.
News.admin.misc and the commercial services listed above are also
viable options. Another option which is relevant only to Internet
sites is to send mail to the mailing list nntp-managers@apple.com, and
ask if anyone on that list is willing to provide you with a news feed.
If you do this, be specific, just as if you were posting to
news.admin.misc as described above.
3. Get the software.
The "USENET Software" posting referenced above goes into quite a bit
of detail about the software that is available. There are three
components in the software at a USENET site: (a) the software that
transports the news (usually using either UUCP or NNTP), (b) the
software that stores the news on the local disks, expires old
articles, etc., and (c) the news-readers for looking at the news.
For example, if you're a UNIX site on the Internet and you're going
to be getting your news feed over the Internet, then you are probably
going to want to get one of the news transport packages mentioned in
the "USENET Software" posting (e.g., INN or C News + NNTP), as well as
one or more of the UNIX news readers mentioned there.
Since you are probably going to be exchanging mail as well as news,
and the mail software that is shipped with the OS you are using might
not be powerful enough to handle mail exchanging with the rest of the
USENET, you might want to obtain new mail software as well. There are
several packages you might choose you use. Discussion of them is
beyond the scope of this document; the books referenced below will
probably provide some useful information in this area. Furthermore,
if you are a UNIX site, the posting by Chris Lewis
<clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca> entitled "UNIX Email Software Survey FAQ"
in news.admin.misc, comp.mail.misc and news.answers provides a good
introduction to the UNIX mail software that's out there. Finally,
Eric S. Johansson <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us>'s "FAQ - UUCP Mail,
News and Gateway Software for PCs and MACs" posting (actually, the
Subject line appears to vary somewhat, and the posting doesn't seem to
appear very regularly), in comp.mail.uucp, news.software.readers and
vmsnet.uucp, will help you to find out more about the UUCP software
that is available to you if you wish to run it on a PC or Macintosh
computer.
The basic idea is to go read the "USENET Software" posting, and then
to work from there.
Europeans can ask their national backbone site, which will usually
either be a software archive or be closely associated with one.
UKNET, for example, provides an information pack explaining what is
needed and where (and how) to get it.
4. Do what it says.
Most of the software available for news transport or storage comes
with installation instructions. Follow them. This part should be
self-explanatory (although the instructions might not be :-).
5. Register your site on the network.
The "traditional" method of advertising your site to the rest of the
USENET after setting it up is to get an entry for it added to the UUCP
maps. Doing this involves choosing a name for your site and
submitting a map entry indicating the name, other vital statistics,
and a list of your feed sites, preferentially weighted. Since many
USENET sites still rely exclusively on the UUCP maps for routing mail,
you will almost certainly want to register in the maps. To find out
more about how to do this, read the "UUCP map for README" posting in
comp.mail.maps, referenced above.
However, the past several years have witnessed a dramatic increase
in the number of sites choosing to register host names in the Internet
Domain Name Service (DNS) hierarchy, in addition to getting a host
entry added to the UUCP maps. The DNS hierarchy is becomingly
increasingly standardized, and DNS name service is more reliable than
the UUCP maps. Therefore, if register a DNS name for your site, put
that DNS name in your UUCP map entry as an alias for your site, and
use the DNS address rather than the UUCP host name in your mail and
USENET postings, both UUCP hosts and hosts that do DNS will be able to
get mail to you more efficiently and reliably.
There are two types of DNS host records that are relevant here. If
you have opted to contract with a company for a direct connection to
the Internet, then you are probably going to want to register an
address record advertising what your address will be on the Internet.
Hosts which understand DNS can then use that record to connect
directly to your machine and deliver mail to it.
If, on the other hand, you are going to be getting your mail via
UUCP from some other site, then the host record you will be
registering is a Mail eXchange (MX) record. This record announces to
the world that mail destined to your host can be directed instead to
another host that IS directly on the Internet. That host is your "MX
forwarder," and it must be one of your feed sites that knows how to
deliver mail to you. In fact, you can have multiple MX records if you
have multiple feeds on the Internet and want it to be possible for
mail to be routed through all of them (for increased reliability), if
they are willing. Note that if you use a commercial service provider
for your mail feed, it will probably also be your MX forwarder.
Even if none of your feeds are on the Internet, you may be able to
get an MX record, by finding an Internet site that is willing to
receive your mail and put it on its way through the correct UUCP
route. There are currently at least a couple of sites willing to
perform this service for no charge, in order to encourage the
increased use of DNS records. You can therefore probably locate an MX
forwarder by posting to news.admin.misc and asking if anyone is
willing to forward for you.
The procedure for registering a DNS record is quite simple. For
some Network Information Centers (the people who handle domain
registration, a.k.a. NICs), e.g., the InterNIC (see Internet RFC 1400
for more information about the InterNIC) which handles domain
registration for the original Arpanet domains (COM, EDU, etc., as
opposed to the geographic domains such as US for the United States, FR
for France, etc.), it takes a month or less; others, unfortunately,
might take a lot longer. Note that many commercial service providers,
such as UUNET, will take care of this for you when you ask for a
network connection or news/mail feed from them.
Whether you decide to register an address record or an MX record,
you need to decide what your DNS host name is going to be. Since the
DNS is arranged in a hierarchy, you need to decide what hierarchy your
name will appear in. For example, you might choose to be in the ".us"
domain if you are in the United States and want to be in the United
States geographical hierarchy. Alternatively, you might choose ".edu"
for a University, ".org" for a non-profit organization, ".com" for a
commercial company, etc. For more information about the various
hierarchies and about choosing a host name, see the "How to Get
Information about Networks" posting already referenced.
If you are not in the US, you're theoretically supposed to have no
choice about the top-level domain -- it should always be the
two-letter ISO code for your country (".fr", ".de", etc.). However,
depending on how and how well you are connected to the network, you
might be able to get away with being in one of the older domains
mentioned above (".edu", ".org", etc.). If you want to find out how
to get a host name in a particular European domain, you can probably
start by sending mail to hostmaster@mcsun.eu.net and asking for more
information.
Once you have determined your host name, you need to determine one
or more hosts (preferably two or three, so that even if one is having
trouble, the others will fill in for it) that will act as your "name
servers," advertising your host name to anyone who asks for it. Note
that many hierarchies have their own name servers, which means that
when you go through the process of figuring out which domain your host
name will be in, you may find some name servers available to you
already. Furthermore, if you opt to go with a commercial service
provider as described above, your service provider will probably be
willing to act as a name server. Different domain-administration
organizations may require fewer or more name servers (e.g. the NIC
(mentioned below) requires at least two).
Once you've got your host name picked out, you need to submit an
yucca.60postmast,
From: emijusko%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (PUBLIC Administrator)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:22:18 GMT
rep. -1
Koliko mene pamcenje sluzi, i kod nas su postojali predlozi
da se otvore UUCP nalozi na nekoj masini. Mozda bi to moglo na UBBG-u
umesto EARN naloga, a ljudima (koji i onako sa UBBG-om komuniciraju
iskljucivo preko modema) da se besplatno podeli UUPC paket, ili
(jos bolje!) da im se predlozi da migriraju na UNIX. Slicnu stvar
vec sada koristi Ivan (Glisin) - ima UUCP nalog na FON-u. Njegovi
komentari su u superlativu (brzina, lakoca, smanjeni racuni za
telefon), mada Ivan ne prebacuje USENET vec samo mail. BTW, njegova
makina vozi XENIX posto ima mali HD. Pokusacu da Beriju natuknem
ideju pa cemo da vidimo sta ce biti njegov reply.
Panzer
yucca.61postmast,
From: beri%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E.)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:22:20 GMT
Postojala je svojevremeno takva ideja. Jos je Zvonko u svoje vreme
to hteo da ostvari. No, softver na VAX-u nije bas takav kao sto
je odgovarajuci UNIX-softver. Osim toga, ono sto predstavlja
ogranicavajuci faktor jeste sto fakultet ima strahovito lose
modeme i linije.
Pravo (futuristicko, samo idejno) resenje za EARN korisnike jeste:
PC/SCO racunar, na kome se otvaraju UUCP nalozi, pri cemu se
modemske linije vezu direktno za racunar. Naravno i bolji modemi.
To bi bio "neki novi ubbg" ili neki drugi racunar.
Pozdrav,
Beri
yucca.62postmast,
From: imilicic%unsim@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dejan Milicic IC PMF NS)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:22:22 GMT
Ocye li biti isxta od cxlanskih karata ?
yucca.63postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:33:30 GMT
>> Ocye li biti isxta od cxlanskih karata ?
Bice, nadam se od septembra. Pitanje koje se postavlja je
da li da uzimamo luksuzne clanske (koje treba dosta i da
platimo), ili da uzimamo malo losije clanske sa reklamom,
ali dzabe...
Uopste, malo smo usporili posao preko leta, ali od 1.
septembra krecemo punom parom, :-)
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.64postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Archive-name: yu-int.list.15aug94
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 20:10:50 GMT
--
malisha@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
( Miroslav R. Hristodulo )
yucca.65postmast,
From: iherceg%unsim@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Djordje Herceg, PMF)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 17:58:34 GMT
>> ili da uzimamo malo losije clanske sa reklamom,
>> ali dzabe...
Ako je reklama mesare "Djoka", onda moze i to :)
yucca.66postmast,
From: paya@fon (Pavle Pekovic)
Subject: Re: Predlozi...
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 14:56:14 GMT
PUBLIC Administrator (emijusko%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) je napisao(la):
: Koliko mene pamcenje sluzi, i kod nas su postojali predlozi
: da se otvore UUCP nalozi na nekoj masini. Mozda bi to moglo na UBBG-u
: (jos bolje!) da im se predlozi da migriraju na UNIX. Slicnu stvar
: vec sada koristi Ivan (Glisin) - ima UUCP nalog na FON-u. Njegovi
: komentari su u superlativu (brzina, lakoca, smanjeni racuni za
Svim studentima na FONu koji hoce da probaju UUCP cu odmah otvoriti
uucp nalog.
Paya
yucca.67postmast,
From: broker@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 00:26:19
>> Ocye li biti isxta od cxlanskih karata ?
MH>
MH> Bice, nadam se od septembra. Pitanje koje se postavlja je
MH> da li da uzimamo luksuzne clanske (koje treba dosta i da
MH> platimo), ili da uzimamo malo losije clanske sa reklamom,
MH> ali dzabe...
Sasvim pristojno mogu da ispadnu normalno radjene clanske karte
koje kostaju relativno malo.
... BR> Ne mogu nam zabraniti da umremo.
* Origin: Oreska BBS, Uzice = SF BIBLIOTEKA = SETNet: (38:101/101)
yucca.68postmast,
From: malisha@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: cancel <Cuqyq6.4z6@fon>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 00:15:18 GMT
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL1]
yucca.69postmast,
From: eglisin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Ivan Glisin, 4/IS FON BG)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 01:24:50 GMT
REP -1:
Sto se modema tice ne bi trebalo da bude problema. Modem za UUCP
razmenu moze da bude obican, bez korekcije gresaka. Pricao sam sa
Payom i on cak preporucuje da modem NE bude MNP jer UUCP ima svoju
korekciju gresaka (kao i XYZ-MODEM, KERMIT i slicno), pa se desava
da se MNP i UUCP korekcija potuku i USPORE prenos dok se ne dogovore
ko sta treba da popravi. Treba probati dakle najprostije modeme.
REP -2:
Da, nemam News grupe jer nemam softver koji bi to mrdao preko UUCP-a.
Sta uopste treba da stavim da bih dohvatio ono sto citam sa TIN-om
na FON-u?
A sto se troskova i udobnosti tice, jedna razmena izgleda otprilike
ovako: kazem 'uutry fon' (naravno, prethodno se podesi sve sto treba
u /usr/lib/uucp). Masina okrene FON, prijavi se na UUCP racun za
'galaxy', dogovore se sta ko ima za koga da salje, razmene poruke
i prekine vezu. To je minut-dva na vezi za desetak poruka
tamo-ovamo. Updane i u skupljoj tarifi u jedan impuls. E, posle
mogu tri sata da citam i pisem postu, pa kada zavrsim mogu odmah
da ponovim postupak ili da to radim jednom dnevno (dakle, cekam
sutra), zavisi od raspolozenja. Eto, prosto. :-)
yucca.70postmast,
From: eglisin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Ivan Glisin, 4/IS FON BG)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 01:24:54 GMT
Sto se tice UUCP naloga, mislim da bi bilo sjajno da se jedna masina
negde otvori kao UUCP server, ili tako nesto. Ideja je sledeca:
na toj masini bi isao mail i news i na njoj bi bili otvarani samo
UUCP nalozi, pa bi ljudi mogli da zovu samo za razmenu i ni za sta
drugo i to bi bilo efikasno i brzo - jedna do dve telefonske linije
bi opsluzile onoliko korisnika koliko Sezam ili ETF sa preko deset
linija. Tako bi se dobila nekakva UUCP STAR paketna mreza.
Ne znam kako stoje stvari sa mail i news sistemom koji bi isao preko
UUCP linija na MS-DOSu? Ja sam to namestio na SCO XENIX. Da li MS-DOS
to moze da potera? Bilo bi lepo da to bude sto masovnije, a ne verujem
da ce biti ako trazi desetine megabajta UNIXa na masini da bi se
citao nekakav emajl ili news grupe?
Uzgred, moja adresa preko FON UUCP racuna je 'glisin@galaxy.uucp'.
Sa ETF-a valjda ide SMTP%"glisin%galaxy.uucp@fon". Nisam probao
sa SMTP%"glisin@galaxy.uucp", da li bi islo?
yucca.71postmast,
From: paya@fon (Pavle Pekovic)
Subject: Re: Predlozi...
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 10:09:31 GMT
Ivan Glisin, 4/IS FON BG (eglisin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) je napisao(la):
: Da, nemam News grupe jer nemam softver koji bi to mrdao preko UUCP-a.
: Sta uopste treba da stavim da bih dohvatio ono sto citam sa TIN-om
: na FON-u?
Treba ti cnews. Moze i inn ali je on glomazniji i komplikovaniji
za uucp razmenu.
yucca.72postmast,
From: eglisin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Ivan Glisin, 4/IS FON BG)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:38:37 GMT
Uzgred, kada bi se jedna masina (recimo neki PC) dodelio za UUCP,
jedim krajem bi trebalo da bude vezan an BeoInternet, svakako.
Recimo, stvar bi mogla da radi ovako (neka se masina zove 'uucpstar'):
UUCP Remote 1
UUCP Remote 2
UBBG ------- UUCPSTAR --- [modem] ...
...
UUCP Remote N
UBBG je dat samo opciono, to moze biti bilo koja masina, recimo
i FON, princip je isti. Na 'uucpstar' se namesti mailer koji
obezbedjuje da posta moze da se salje medjusobno (masine 'mars',
'zver', ... , 'galaxy') i van na BeoInternet. Adrese za medjusobnu
razmenu bi tako bile:
uucpstar!RemoteX!user
Za slanje napolje na BeoInternet:
uucpstar!user@host
A za slanje spolja na UUCPstar:
user%RemoteX@uucpstar.etf.bg.ac.yu (recimo ovako)
Samo formiranje adresa bi se moglo napraviti i elegantnije, ali
mi se cini da ovakav metod obezbedjuje odrzavanje samo na 'uucpstar'
i nigde vise. Verovatno bi Name Serveri za slanje spolja ka 'uucpstar'
radili sve kako treba i ako bi se pisalo:
user@RemoteX.uucpstar
Ali sta kada se doda RemoteN+1 ??? Da li mora da se menja i na Internet
Name Server-u i na '@uucpstar', ili se onaj dodatak '.uucpstar'
moze prepoznati i adresa prepakovati u prethodni format? Kako se
to izvodi uopste (nemam pojma, pa pitam :-)?
Ja ovo nabacah onako iz glave, ON-LINE, mozda ovo isto ne bih napisao
sutra (na "drugo razmisljanje") ali eto, malo Brain Storming-a nije
na odmet. Sta mislite?
yucca.73postmast,
From: alenin@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Ninkovic)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 21:25:01
>
> Da, nemam News grupe jer nemam softver koji bi to
> mrdao preko UUCP-a.
> Sta uopste treba da stavim da bih dohvatio ono sto
> citam sa TIN-om
> na FON-u?
>
Najjednostavnije je da pristupis nekom od BBS-ova u SETNet-u koji rade 24h ili standardno nocno vreme i taj posao obavis skidanjem qwk paketa ili nekog od popularnih paketa :) Sve yu news grupe su integrisane sa nasim konferencijama :)
Pozdrav
Aleksandar
* Origin: Infosys*BBS za opste informacije*011 1768-526 (38:103/114)
yucca.74sinfos,
ja pitao u komunikacije ali nista ... evo sad ovde da pitam
Ima li sanse da se na YU-internetu namesti IRC???
yucca.75postmast,
From: emijusko%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (PUBLIC Administrator)
Subject: Predlozi...
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:11:49 GMT
< Note 5.31 by UBBG::EGLISIN "Ivan Glisin, 4/IS FON BG" >
> Da, nemam News grupe jer nemam softver koji bi to mrdao preko UUCP-a.
> Sta uopste treba da stavim da bih dohvatio ono sto citam sa TIN-om
> na FON-u?
Probaj na ftp.sco.com, cini mi se da sam video da postoji nekakav
software za dovlacenje USENET news preko UUCP, kako za ODT tako
i za XENIX.
Panzer
yucca.76postmast,
From: panzer@vrabac.etf.bg.ac.yu (Veselin Mijuskovic)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 12:48:35 GMT
In article <sezam$yucca:01.022.2648@sezam> "Srdan Kosovac" <sinfos@sezam.UUCP> writes:
> ja pitao u komunikacije ali nista ... evo sad ovde da pitam
> Ima li sanse da se na YU-internetu namesti IRC???
Server i klijent softver za IRC (UNIX verzija) su prebacene ili je u
toku njihovo prebacivanje. Postoji problem da se odredi masina na kojoj ce se
vrteti IRC server, posto verovatno zahteva dosta resursa. Zbog verzije paketa
to mora biti neka UNIX masina, verovatno orao (DECstation 5100/120) ali je on
pretrpan raznim servisima, pa mozda i nece moci da izdrzi i tako zahtevan
servis.
Sve u svemu, kad (i ako) bude instaliran IRC na BEOnet-u, bicete na
vreme obavesteni, a klijent programi za razne platforme ce verovatno biti
dovuceni i javno dostupni na nekom od fajl servera.
--
Panzer
In real life : Mijuskovic Veselin Internet : panzer@orao.etf.uni-bg.yu
/Meeyoushkowitch Veselyn/ DECnet : UBBG::EMIJUSKO
yucca.77postmast,
From: paya@fon (Pavle Pekovic)
Subject: Re: Predlozi...
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 11:36:18 GMT
PUBLIC Administrator (emijusko%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) je napisao(la):
: Probaj na ftp.sco.com, cini mi se da sam video da postoji nekakav
: software za dovlacenje USENET news preko UUCP, kako za ODT tako
: i za XENIX.
Postoji. Medjutim to je Bnews koji je skoro svuda u svetu izasao
iz upotrebe. Zamenio ga je mnogo brzi, fleksibilniji i u svakom pogledu
napredniji, CNews.
yucca.78postmast,
From: sony@fon (Branislav Subotic)
Subject: Windows
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 16:01:17 GMT
Malo smeha. Izvor: INTEL - Chalndler, Arizona.
**********************************************
"Star Trek Lost Episodes" transcript.
<Picard> "Mr. LaForge, have you had any success with your
attempts at finding a weakness in the Borg? And Mr. Data, have
you been able to access their command pathways?"
<Geordi>"Yes, Captain. In fact, we found the answer by searching
through our archives on late Twentieth-century computing
technology."
<Geordi presses a key, and a logo appears on the computer
screen.>
<Riker looks puzzled.> "What the hell is 'Microsoft'?"
<Data turns to answer.> "Allow me to explain. We will send this
program, for some reason called 'Windows', through the Borg
command pathways. Once inside their root command unit, it will
begin consuming system resources at an unstoppable rate."
<Picard> "But the Borg have the ability to adapt. Won't they
alter their processing systems to increase their storage
capacity?"
<Data> "Yes, Captain. But when 'Windows' detects this, it
creates a new version of itself known as an 'upgrade'. The use
of resources increases exponentially with each iteration. The
Borg will not be able to adapt quickly enough. Eventually all of
their processing ability will be taken over and none will be
available for their normal operational functions."
<Picard> "Excellent work. This is even better than that
'unsolvable geometric shape' idea."
.. . . 15 Minutes Later . . .
<Data> "Captain, we have successfully installed the 'Windows'
in the command unit and as expected it immediately consumed 85%
of all resources. We however have not received any confirmation
of the expected 'upgrade'."
<Geordi> "Our scanners have picked up an increase in Borg
storage and CPU capacity to compensate, but we still have no
indication of an 'upgrade' to compensate for their increase."
<Picard> "Data, scan the history banks again and determine if
their is something we have missed."
<Data> "Sir, I believe their is a reason for the failure in the
'upgrade'. Appearently the Borg have circumvented that part of
the plan by not sending in their registration cards.
<Riker> "Captain we have no choice. Requesting permission to
begin emergency escape sequence 3F . . ."
<Geordi, excited> "Wait, Captain I just detected their CPU
capacity has suddenly dropped to 0% !"
<Picard> "Data, what does your scanners show?"
<Data> "Appearently the Borg have found the internal 'Windows'
module named 'Solitaire' and it has used up all the CPU capacity."
<Picard> "Lets wait and see how long this 'solitaire' can
reduce their functionality."
.. . . Two Hours Pass . . .
<Riker> "Geordi whats the status on the Borg?"
<Geordi> "As expected the Borg are attempting to re-engineer to
compensate for increased CPU and storage demands, but each time
they successfully increase resources I have setup our closest
deep space monitor beacon to transmit more 'windows' modules
from something called the 'Microsoft fun-pack'.
<Picard> "How much time will that buy us ?"
<Data> "Current Borg solution rates allow me to predicate an
interest time span of 6 more hours."
<Geordi> "Captain, another vessel has entered our sector."
<Picard> "Identify."
<Data> "It appears to have markings very similar to the
'Microsoft' logo"
<Over the speakers> "THIS IS ADMIRAL BILL GATES OF THE
MICROSOFT FLAGSHIP MONOPOLY. WE HAVE POSITIVE CONFIRMATION OF
UNREGISTERED SOFTWARE IN THIS SECTOR. SURRENDER ALL ASSETS AND
WE CAN AVOID ANY TROUBLE. YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS"
<Data> "The alien ship has just opened its forward hatches and
released thousands of humanoid shaped objects."
<Picard> "Magnify forward viewer on the alien craft"
<Riker> "Good God captain! Those are humans floating straight
toward the Borg ship with no life support suits! How can they
survive the tortures of deep space ?!"
<Data> "I don't believe that those are humans sir, if you will
look closer I believe you will see that they are carrying
something recognized by twenty-first century man as doe skin
leather briefcases, and wearing Armani suits"
<Riker and Picard together horrified> "Lawyers!!"
<Geordi> "It can't be. All the Lawyers were rounded up and
sent hurtling into the sun in 2017 during the Great Awakening."
<Data> "True, but appearently some must have survived."
<Riker> "They have surrounded the Borg ship and are covering it
with all types of papers."
<Data> "I believe that is known in ancient venacular as 'red
tape' it often proves fatal."
<Riker> "They're tearing the Borg to pieces!"
<Picard> "Turn off the monitors. I can't stand to watch, not
even the Borg deserve that."
**********************************************************
--
..............................................................................
: Branislav Subotic, Beograd, tel.: 011/134-038 // sony@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu :
: // esubotic@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu :
:............................................................................:
yucca.79postmast,
From: Vojislav.Mihailovic@f304.n301.z58.setgate.setnet.co.yu (Vojislav Mihailovic)
Subject: yucca
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 15:04:00
* U poruci za All, "Vladimir Misev" kaze:
"M> From: "Vladimir Misev" <vmisev@sezam.UUCP>
"M> Newsgroups: yu.comm.yucca
"M> Organization: SEZAM Beograd, 011 648-422
Iz nekog cudnog razloga na nekim porukama se pojavljuju znaci navoda oko imena
posiljaoca. Neka neko pogleda u cemu je stvar, pravi probleme kod OLR-a,
odgovaranja na poruke itd.
Btw. pozdrav svima sa Politike!
VojaM
* Origin: Politika BBS 3229-148 * ProNet (58:301/304)
yucca.80postmast,
From: vasilj37093d%buef78@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (sv. Vasilije)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 19:10:50 GMT
->
-> ja pitao u komunikacije ali nista ... evo sad ovde da pitam
-> Ima li sanse da se na YU-internetu namesti IRC???
->
Ima, cak se planira u skorije vreme....verovatno ce service biti
namesten na nekom od VAX-ova na ETF-u...Detalje ne znam.
Vasa
yucca.81postmast,
From: evecerin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Vecerina Dragan, ETF Belgrade)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 22:02:59 GMT
>ja pitao u komunikacije ali nista ... evo sad ovde da pitam
>Ima li sanse da se na YU-internetu namesti IRC???
>
Samo da ga instaliramo i proverimo...:)))
Bice bice uskoro....:))
Zadovoljan......????
Ok, vec je softver na putu.......:)))
vecxo
yucca.82postmast,
From: alf@Osmeh.FON.BG.AC.YU (Dejan Jakovljevic)
Subject: Re: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 22:29:21 GMT
Vecerina Dragan, ETF Belgrade (evecerin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote:
<*> Ok, vec je softver na putu.......:)))
hm...ja mislio da je na godisxnjem :))
--
in real: Jakovljevic Dejan, student, ETF, Belgrade.
e_mail: alf@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
...................................................yeah, we're f*c**d........
yucca.83dcolak,
-> #75, postmast│ Probaj na ftp.sco.com, cini mi se da sam video da postoji nekakav
│ software za dovlacenje USENET news preko UUCP, kako za ODT tako
│ i za XENIX.
Postoji li tako nešto za MSDOS?
Sledge DAMMIR!
yucca.84postmast,
From: evecerin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Vecerina Dragan, ETF Belgrade)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 20:13:04 GMT
> hm...ja mislio da je na godisxnjem :))
Ok, Alfi nisam ti rekao da je skoro sve kod mene...tj. jos mi
prostaje samo klijent-softver...server je stigao.....
Ceka se otpakivanje i provera...i naravno da polozim
elektroniku ili da padnem pa da krenemo na posao...:)))))
Boludo..:)
yucca.85postmast,
From: beri%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E.)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:32:43 GMT
>> From: Damir Colak <dcolak@sezam.UUCP>
>> Subject: yucca
>> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:42:00 CET
>>
>> Postoji li tako nesto za MSDOS?
>>
Za MSDOS postoji program ZipNews - USENET news offline reader. Nalazi
se na: ubbg::public:[msdos.comm.misc] - datoteka znr093b.zip.
Pozdrav,
Beri
yucca.86postmast,
From: paya@fon (Pavle Pekovic)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 08:59:04 GMT
Damir Colak (dcolak@sezam.UUCP) je napisao(la):
: Postoji li tako nesto za MSDOS?
Ima ih vise. Pogledaj na FFS-u u /msdos/uucp direktorijumu.
Preporucujem UUPC.
yucca.87postmast,
From: zoran@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Zoran Tomic)
Subject: yucca
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 21:57:30
> Vojislav Mihailovic je napisao(la):
VM> Iz nekog cudnog razloga na nekim porukama se pojavljuju znaci navoda
VM> oko imena posiljaoca. Neka neko pogleda u cemu je stvar, pravi
VM> probleme kod OLR-a, odgovaranja na poruke itd.
To "nekim" slobodno zameni sa "svim" porukama koje dolaze sa SEZAM-a.
To mu dodje kao znak raspoznavanja - uvek znas sa kog sistema se javlja
doticni korisnik. ;)
Meni vise smeta sto u reply porukama sa SEZAM-a nema informacije o tome
kome ide reply. Oni verovatno imaju interno reseno taj problem, ali ovde
jako bezveze izgleda: mozda na neki postavljeni problem neko ima resenje,
a ne zna kome da ga uputi!
Da li bi momci i devojke sa SEZAM-a bili ljubazni da stave jedno
"ime@sistem wrote:" pre nego napisu poruku? Ili da administratori rese taj
problem... :)
Zoran
... U ime naroda, a u svoje prezime.
* Origin: ECSTASY BBS * Indjija * 022 53 218 * SETNet: (38:111/119)
yucca.88postmast,
From: alenin@setgate.setnet.co.yu (Aleksandar Ninkovic)
Subject: yucca
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:30:05
> Meni vise smeta sto u reply porukama sa SEZAM-a nema informacije o
> tome
> kome ide reply. Oni verovatno imaju interno reseno taj problem, ali
> ovde
> jako bezveze izgleda: mozda na neki postavljeni problem neko ima
> resenje,
> a ne zna kome da ga uputi!
Stos je u tome sto se te poruke razmenjuju preko BeoInterneta, a tamo ne postoje konferencije u BBS-ovskom :) smislu reci, vec news grupe sa odredjenim temama. Svaka poruka u okviru news grupe je tretirana kao zaseban clanak, iako postoji sled disku
sije:).. ZAto i ne postoji ono klasicno To: polje, ali i taj se problem resava na razne nacine :) ..Citiranjem imena onoga kome se odgovor salje u telu poruke.
* Origin: Infosys*BBS za opste informacije*011 1768-526 (38:103/114)
yucca.89dcolak,
-> #85, postmast│ Za MSDOS postoji program ZipNews - USENET news offline reader. Nalazi
│ se na: ubbg::public:[msdos.comm.misc] - datoteka znr093b.zip.
Baš ti hvala, nemam pristup UBBG-u :)) Elem, što ne otvorite
neki GUEST account?
Sledge DAMMIR!
yucca.90ayatolah,
-> #89, dcolak*) Baš ti hvala, nemam pristup UBBG-u :)) Elem, što ne otvorite
*) neki GUEST account?
Možeš sa FON-a da radiš ftp na UBBG.
yucca.91sinfos,
-> #90, ayatolah=->> Mozes sa FON-a da radis ftp na UBBG.
a sta ako covek nema fon-a ???
kao vecina ljudi ovde?
yucca.92ayatolah,
-> #91, sinfos*)a sta ako covek nema fon-a ???
*)kao vecina ljudi ovde?
Ako čovek nema fon-a, onda valjda ima račun na Osmehu, koji svako (?)
može da dobije. Ako ni to nema, k'o mu kriv. @;)
yucca.93dcolak,
-> #92, ayatolah│ Ako čovek nema fon-a, onda valjda ima račun na Osmehu, koji svako (?)
│ može da dobije. Ako ni to nema, k'o mu kriv. @;)
Kako dobiti račun na UBBG?
Ovih dana nema teorije dobiti FON (jedna linija)..
So, ako ništa, treba nam telnet servis na nekom compu...
Sledge DAMMIR!
yucca.94postmast,
From: ehristod%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:17:47 GMT
From: Milan Popovic <ayatolah@sezam.UUCP>
Subject: yucca
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:56:00 CET
*) Bas ti hvala, nemam pristup UBBG-u :)) Elem, sto ne otvorite
*) neki GUEST account?
Mozes sa FON-a da radis ftp na UBBG.
yucca.95postmast,
From: paya@fon (Pavle Pekovic)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:04:43 GMT
Damir Colak (dcolak@sezam.UUCP) je napisao(la):
: Za MSDOS postoji program ZipNews - USENET news offline reader. Nalazi
: se na: ubbg::public:[msdos.comm.misc] - datoteka znr093b.zip.
: Bas ti hvala, nemam pristup UBBG-u :)) Elem, sto ne otvorite
: neki GUEST account?
Uloguj se na svoj nalog na fon.fon racunaru pa odatle kucaj
ftp ubbg.etf. Username: anonymous Password: dcolak@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
yucca.96postmast,
From: sony@fon (Branislav Subotic)
Subject: Re: yucca
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:55:32 GMT
Damir Colak (dcolak@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
> Za MSDOS postoji program ZipNews - USENET news offline reader. Nalazi
> se na: ubbg::public:[msdos.comm.misc] - datoteka znr093b.zip.
> Bas ti hvala, nemam pristup UBBG-u :)) Elem, sto ne otvorite
> neki GUEST account?
Kada kaze covek PUBLIC onda misli PUBLIC...KO kaze da nemas pristip?
Jednostavno ftp ubbg.etf sa fona user anonymous pass bilo sta otkucas
i eto Damira na UBBGu..:))
Pozdrav,
Bane
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yucca.97postmast,
From: ehristod%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:01:17 GMT
From: paya <@yubgef51.bitnet:paya@fon.uni-bg.yu> (Pavle Pekovic)
Subject: RE: yucca
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:04:43 GMT
Damir Colak (dcolak@sezam.UUCP) je napisao(la):
: Za MSDOS postoji program ZipNews - USENET news offline reader. Nalazi
: se na: ubbg::public:[msdos.comm.misc] - datoteka znr093b.zip.
: Bas ti hvala, nemam pristup UBBG-u :)) Elem, sto ne otvorite
: neki GUEST account?
Uloguj se na svoj nalog na fon.fon racunaru pa odatle kucaj
ftp ubbg.etf. Username: anonymous Password: dcolak@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
yucca.98postmast,
From: evecerin%ubbg@ubbg.etf.bg.ac.yu (Vecerina Dragan, ETF Belgrade)
Subject: yu.comm.yucca
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:23:05 GMT
By the way....Svve potrebno za IRC nalazi se na UBBG-u
Preuzimanje slobodno....anonymous ftp ..
vecxo
yucca.99ognjen,
-> #93, dcolak)-> Kako dobiti racun na UBBG?
Zaposlis tatu u matermatickom institutu. ;) Salim se. Vrlo
jednostavno. Platis pa klatis.
yucca.100pedjak,
-> #93, dcolak> Kako dobiti račun na UBBG?
> Ovih dana nema teorije dobiti FON (jedna linija)..
> So, ako ništa, treba nam telnet servis na nekom compu...
Svi oni koji su iz Beograda, a nemaju račun na nekoj mašini na
Bintu, a žele da skinu neki fajl sa nekog od servera, mogu
prošetati do RC ETF-a i tamo iz lokala skinuti potrebne fajlove.
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