unix.1022postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 07:03:17 GMT
Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
-> BTW, kad sam vec kod novog diska od 516MB, moze li se bez problema pustiti
-> da pod linuxom i kernelom 1.2.9 postoji swap particija od 1024. do 1049.
-> cilindra? Posto je fdisk prijavljivao da mu nesto nije potaman po tom
-> pitanju, zanima me, a verujem i jos koga, mogu li se diskovi sa vise od
-> 1024 cilindara koristiti bez specijalnih muvanja pod linuxom, tj. da ih on
-> automatski vidi i ispravno koristi?
mdave koristi 850Mb, sa nesto muvanja koje je objasnjeno u knjizici koja
ide uz InfoMagic, a ja sam sretni korisnik dva diska od 1024+ cilindara i
nemam nikakvih problema. Jedina fora je da, ako se koristi lilo, kernel
imageovi budu ispod 1024 cilindra, jer oni se citaju preko BIOSa. Ako lilo
prijavi da to nije slucaj, rjesenje je ponovno kopiranje kernel imageta dok
se ovaj ne smiluje da ga i snimi ispod 1024 cilindra :). To sve detektuje
lilo, i kad on prodje, znaci da je sve ok, naravno. Meni se kazem desilo
jednom, i poslije prvog ponovljenog rm/cp sve je bilo ok.
swap moze ladno da bude iznad 1024 cilindra, on se cita tek kad se kernel
inicijalizira.
unix.1023mitar,
Postoji li neki poseban nacin za brisanje XENIX particije sa diska i vracanje
celog diska pod MS_DOS?
unix.1024vlad,
-> #1023, mitar> Postoji li neki poseban nacin za brisanje XENIX particije sa diska i
> vracanje celog diska pod MS_DOS?
Probaj da mu prepises nulama prvih nekoliko (fizickih) sektora.
Mozes Norton DiskEdit-om, nije problem. Posle fdisk, format...
unix.1025ppekovic,
-> #1023, mitar>> Postoji li neki poseban nacin za brisanje XENIX particije sa
>> diska i vracanje celog diska pod MS_DOS?
DOS fdisk od verzije 6.0 ili beše 6.2, briše i ne-dos particije.
Xenix particiju možeš obrisati i iz samog Xenix-a, komandom fdisk :)
Paya
unix.1026wizard,
-> #969, spantic> Srećna vest!
>
> Novell je prodao UNIX!
>
> I to SCO-u.
Može li neko dodatno objašnjenje - šta podrazumevaš pod tim
"prodao Unix"?
I zašto je to (i za koga) srećna vest? Za Borland? ;)
unix.1027spantic,
-> #1026, wizard> Može li neko dodatno objašnjenje - šta podrazumevaš pod tim
> "prodao Unix"?
Prodao je, zapravo to i nije tako prosto pošto je dobijen
deo deonica i udeo u dobiti, UNIX Labs.
A da stvar bude zanimljiva, upotreba zaštitnog imena UNIX
već neko vreme nije u vlasništvu Novella, tako da SCO i
dalje ne može da naziva svoje proizvode prosto UNIX.
Inače, sada bi Novell trebao da u SCO-u drži više deonica
od Microsofta iliti MS nije većinski vlasnik, već drži oko 12%.
unix.1028iznogud,
-> #1027, spantic:: Inače, sada bi Novell trebao da u SCO-u drži više deonica
:: od Microsofta iliti MS nije većinski vlasnik, već drži oko 12%.
Najzanimljivije je to što sada dve firme koje proizvode softver za
mrežne servere drže većinski deo (12% + 17% = ohoho) treće firme koja
proizvodi softver za, pogađate, mrežne servere.
unix.1029eotek,
Clients:
izasao je Chameleon 4.5, by NetManage, (http://www.netmanage.com)
obuhvata 6 "InternetSuite"-a, dakle "sve" sto treba, a optional je i
NFS client i NFS server (navodno trosi samo oko 6-8K memorije za bilo
koji od programa) - a zbog NFS i memorije: ko ima nek se javi,
"necu mu nista" ...
Te InternetSuit-ove prave sada mnogi:
- najintegrisaniji (?) je "Emisary" by Wollong (http://www.twg.com)
- "InternetSuite" by Quaterdeck sada izlazi (http://www.qdeck.com),
sa najavom: "Netscape and InternetInABox, dady is home"
- "Mariner" by NCD (http://www.ncd.com) (dobro ime za firmu ;)
Ako neko od uvazenih netizens moze i da nas pocasti nekim
od ovih tekstova bilo bi lepo ...
unix.1030eotek,
nekako mi se cini da ovde pripada:
"Microsoft Internet Assistant", add-on for Word 6.0,
_free_ HTML editor (pravi, ne makro, sa posebnim toolbarovima and
special menu) radi onako kako ocekujemo, radi i kao browser,
dobio najvise ocene - al ga nafalih na nevidjeno ...
Hoce li neka dobra da ga dusa uveze ovamo (http://www.microsoft.com)
unix.1031spantic,
-> #1030, eotek> "Microsoft Internet Assistant", add-on for Word 6.0,
> _free_ HTML editor (pravi, ne makro, sa posebnim toolbarovima and
Tu je on davno, relativno je upotrebljiv, doduše.
unix.1032dpop,
Kako se vidi zadnjih mjeseci je stisala euforija oko DosEmu ali u
cijeloj gunguli nisam nasao odgovor na meni interesantno pitanje:
"Kako pristupiti korektno Stacker v.4.0 komprimiranom volumenu iz
DosEmu ?", ako je to ikako i moguce. A bilo je nekih najava od
>>POSTMAST-a<< u poruci PC.OS.5:UNIX:17, kako se vidi iz dole
prilozenog, da je to (mozda) rjeseno. Na moje upite nisam dobio
odgovor. Ako je neko drugi spreman da podijeli svoja dragocjena
iskustva po tom pitanju O.K. Thanks !
> From: acal@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Aleksandar Lazarevic)
> Subject: Re: Dosemu ....
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 14:42:15 GMT
> > : AcaL
> KONACNO sam namestio Dosemu (sad mi i sa steckerom radi !!!)
> Problem je inace bio u .dosrc fajlu koji se na volseban
> nacin zadesio u mom root diru...
S
unix.1033ppekovic,
-> #1031, spantic>> > "Microsoft Internet Assistant", add-on for Word 6.0,
>> > _free_ HTML editor (pravi, ne makro, sa posebnim
>> toolbarovima and
>>
>> Tu je on davno, relativno je upotrebljiv, doduše.
Izašla je skoro nova verzija, 2.0 valjda. Takođe, videh na MS ftp
serveru beta verziju novog Internet Explorer-a v2.0. Koliko sam stigao
da vidim, izgleda su glavni dodaci u pravcu prilagođavanja WWW-a za
finansijske transakcije. VISA i Microsoft su skoro napravili par
specifikacija za finansijske transakcije i proveru autentičnosti
uopšte.
Paya
unix.1034eotek,
-> #1033, ppekovic>>> > "Microsoft Internet Assistant", add-on for Word 6.0,
>
> Izasla je skoro nova verzija, 2.0 valjda. Takode, videh na MS
bulaja ?
unix.1035zormi,
-> #1033, ppekovic*>> > _free_ HTML editor (pravi, ne makro, sa posebnim
*>> toolbarovima and
*>>
*>> Tu je on davno, relativno je upotrebljiv, doduše.
*
* Izašla je skoro nova verzija, 2.0 valjda. Takođe, videh na MS ftp
* serveru beta verziju novog Internet Explorer-a v2.0.
2. MICROSOFT SHIPS BETA RELEASE OF INTERNET
EXPLORER VERSION 2.0
New Features Provide More Powerful Web Support, Secure
Transactions, Multimedia, 3-D Capabilities
Sept. 28, 1995 - Microsoft Corp. today announced it is
releasing beta copies of the Microsoft Internet Explorer
version 2.0, the newest version of its Internet browser for
the Windows(R) 95 operating system. Internet Explorer 2.0
enhances the World Wide Web support already provided in
version 1.0 and adds new functionality such as support for
secure transactions, tables, multimedia and 3-D graphics.
Internet Explorer 2.0 includes support for HyperText
Markup Language (HTML) 3.0 tables; access to Internet
newsgroups; a toolbar button for instant access to the
Web's most powerful search engines; and the ability to run
animations using client-pull technology. The addition of
special Internet tokens, called "cookies," enables Web
surfers to shop at their favorite Internet outlets.
Internet Explorer 2.0 also provides users with a secure
environment. Complete support for Secure Sockets Layer
(SSL) and RSA encryption allows integration with secure
sites. In addition, Internet Explorer 2.0 will support
Private Communication Technology (PCT), which is an
efficient and secure upgrade to the SSL protocol. Internet
Explorer will also support Secure Transaction Technology
(STT), an electronic payment technology jointly developed
by Microsoft and Visa International, as soon as
it is available (for more information on accessing the
Microsoft-Visa announcement, please see "NEW POSTINGS..."
below in this issue - article #6).
Supports Leading-Edge Multimedia, 3-D Animation
Web pages are becoming more sophisticated, and Internet
Explorer 2.0 provides new features and HTML extensions
to take full advantage of their capabilities. It supports
inline AVIs for embedded videos, scrolling banners,
background audio and context-sensitive menus.
Internet Explorer will also support inline Virtual Reality
Markup Language (VRML) for fast viewing of 3-D objects
and animations. Microsoft plans to deliver VRML technology
for Internet Explorer and Windows 95 based on the high-
speed Reality Lab Engine by the end of 1995. The 3-D
support in Internet Explorer is the first step toward
bringing interactive 3-D to the Internet. In addition there
is progressive rendering, read-ahead mode, a multithreaded
user interface and support for HyperText Transport
Protocol (HTTP) Keep-Alive.
Easiest Internet Access, Designed Specifically for Windows 95
The new version of Internet Explorer builds on the advances
introduced in version 1.0, which debuted last month along
with the introduction of Windows 95. Internet Explorer is
designed specifically to take full advantage of the
advancements in Windows 95 and to offer customers easy
Internet access and high performance.
Internet Explorer mirrors the easy-to-use Windows 95
interface, supports Windows(R) Shortcuts to the Internet,
includes an Internet tutorial and comprehensive search
engine, supports full drag and drop of text and graphics,
shields users from Internet jargon (such as "protocols"
and "data types"), and works well with other Windows 95-
based applications.
High Performance, Richer User Interface
In addition to its ease of use, the Internet Explorer
provides fast and full access to the World Wide Web based
on its support for all popular Internet standards. It
supports all industry-standard HTML tags, so users can read
the broad range of Internet content. It supports proxy
servers, making it compatible with corporate security
mechanisms for Internet access. Proxy servers allow
protected access to the Internet through corporate
firewalls. Internet Explorer 2.0 also preserves the
original look of Web-page text and graphics, enabling end
users to view content as authors designed it to look.
The Internet Explorer is also the first Internet browser to
ship with the RealAudio Player, allowing users equipped
with conventional multimedia PCs and voice-grade telephone
lines to browse, select and play back audio or audio-based
multimedia content in real time.
The beta version of Internet Explorer 2.0 is available to
download at no charge (other than the cost, if applicable,
of online time while downloading) from the Windows 95
website at http://www.windows.microsoft.com.
unix.1036postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 01:36:24 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-25-95 13:02 Dragisha@hobbiton.co.yu wrote:
Dr> Helem, glede ovoga problema kod andre(j?)e, nisam se sretao sa
Ipak - Andrea, onako muski..... :)
Dr> slicnim, ali posto otkazuje na pokusaje fsck/debugfs jedino sto mi
Dr> ovako na suvo pada na pamet je da se proba sa rezervnim superblokom ili
Dr> kako se to vec zove. Znaci, fsck /dev/hdb1 8191 ili slicno, ne mogu
Dr> sada da se sjetim po kom uzorku on to pravi, ali cu pogledam okolo.
Dr> Preporucujem sljedece
Dr> -rw-r--r-- 1 dragisha 776 /pub/Incoming/ext2ed-0.1.lsm
Dr> -rw-r--r-- 1 dragisha 430753 /pub/Incoming/ext2ed-0.1.tar.gz
Dr> -rw-r--r-- 1 dragisha 685 /pub/Incoming/Ext2fs-overview-0.1.lsm
Dr> -rw-r--r-- 1 dragisha 44235 /pub/Incoming/Ext2fs-overview-0.1.ps.gz
Bam bam bam, izgleda da sam napravio molto grande glupost pre neki dan, a
glede (sto ti rece) mojega linux disk problema.
Naime, posto sam postao srecni vlasnik novog 540M djiska, quantum
maverick, ja sam si resio da stavim novi linux, sa kernelom 1.2.3, bice
da je to 2.1.x distribucija. Uglavnom, stavim ja njega na novi disk i
ustanovim da njegov fsck uspeva da da neki info u vezi one skrkane
particije na starom disku. Posto se ja, je li, ponadam da ce on stvar da
sredi, pustim ja njega da se zabavlja sa starim linuxom, i on uradi
kojekakve brljoke za koje mi se cini da su mi sad skroz na skroz
upropastile fajlove. Prijavljivao je neke silne poruke tipa "blabla block
8192 not valid, copying to 8193. WARNING : SEVERE DATA LOSS POSSIBLE!
Continue?<Y>" na sta sam ja je li manijakalno pritiskao Y sve u nadi da ce
stvar da se sredi.
Posle prvog seta takvih poruka krenuo je da nesto drlja, i to nesto je
trajalo dobrih 10 minuta, a onda je krenuo ispocetka da fsck-uje i da
prijavljuje iste probleme za iste blokove i tako ukrug.
Posle toga probam ja foru sa fsck /dev/hdb1 8193, pa 16385, i tako redom,
ali cvrc, nece nista da pomogne.
Sad, pitanje vrlo prosto : imam li ja uopste bilo sta preostalo na disku
ili ne? I cemu tolike greske prilikom kopiranja blokova sa jedne na drugu
lokaciju, a disk zdrav?
Jos cu da pomislim da ext2fs nije nista bolji od dos-a.... :-/
BTW, kad sam vec kod novog diska od 516MB, moze li se bez problema pustiti
da pod linuxom i kernelom 1.2.9 postoji swap particija od 1024. do 1049.
cilindra? Posto je fdisk prijavljivao da mu nesto nije potaman po tom
pitanju, zanima me, a verujem i jos koga, mogu li se diskovi sa vise od
1024 cilindara koristiti bez specijalnih muvanja pod linuxom, tj. da ih on
automatski vidi i ispravno koristi?
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1037postmast,
From: anubis@hobbiton.CO.YU (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: COMMERCIAL: Slackware 3.0 released
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 01:44:36 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.announce ]
[ Author was Patrick J. Volkerding ]
[ Posted on Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:36:36 GMT ]
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Announcing the release of Slackware Linux 3.0 ELF!
Slackware is a complete personal workstation operating system
based on the Linux kernel and an extensive collection of free
software and shareware from the net.
Here are just a few of the new features in Slackware 3.0:
ELF binary format!
This version uses the ELF binary format and shared libraries
for all major software included. There are a few binaries we
don't have the source code for (DOOM(tm), for example) that
still use the a.out binary format -- for those we provide a
a complete set of a.out libraries that assure complete
compatibility with any existing Linux application.
Updated development tools:
A professional-quality development system is provided for all
your programming needs. You can develop binaries in either the
ELF or a.out format. In the past it was extremely difficult
for most people to build shared libraries under Linux, especially
if they planned to share them with other Linux users. Using ELF,
you can build shared libraries as easily as static ones -- with
just a single load command!
Complete language support!
Almost any programming language you'd want to use is included,
ready to use. Here are some of the compilers and interpreters
you'll get:
GNU GCC 2.7.0 (C, C++, and Objective-C)
GNU G77-0.5.16 (Fortran-77)
f2c (Fortran-77 to C translator)
p2c (Pascal to C translator)
BASIC
Perl 4, and Perl 5.001m (with ELF dynamic loading)
Berkeley Yacc and GNU bison parser generators
flex 2.5.2 lexical analyzer generator
GNU Common LISP 2.1
Latest version of XFree86:
Slackware uses the X window system from XFree86 3.1.2, based on
X11R6. This adds support for several new high-performance video
chipsets such as the S3 968/868.
Intel Binary Compatibility Specification module:
The iBCS module allows many binaries from other OS's to run on Linux!
i386 BSD (386BSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, BSDI/386) - very experimental.
SVR4 (Interactive, Unixware, USL, Dell etc.)
SVR3 generic
SCO (SVR3 with extensions for symlinks and long filenames)
Wyse V/386 (SVR3 with extensions for symlinks)
Xenix V/386 (386 small model binaries only), Xenix 286
Updated Linux kernels:
In addition to the 1.2.13 bootdisks and kernels, 1.3.18 kernels are
also provided. This offers installation support for some new SCSI
cards (including the Adaptec 2940) and several new CDROM drives.
... and a whole lot more!
The latest version of Emacs, SLIP/PPP networking, Tcl/Tk script
languages, updated ncurses library (1.9.4), new video games (such
as Crack Dot Com's ABUSE for Linux), XView, UUCP, mailx, dip, PPP,
deliver, elm, pine, BSD sendmail, PCMCIA support, cnews, nn, tin,
trn, inn...
Slackware 3.0 is available from the central FTP site:
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/slackware-3.0
As well as many mirror sites throughout the world. If possible, try to
use a site near you. Use care with the mirror sites for the next several
days, as they might not have completely caught up with the new release.
I'm sure they'll catch up soon, though.
Other well-known mirror sites include:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/distributions/slackware
ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu:/pub/systems/linux/distributions/slackware
A list of international sites can be obtained at:
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/slackware-3.0/MIRRORS.TXT
Slackware on CDROM from Walnut Creek CDROM:
For the ultimate in convenience, you can order the official Slackware
CDROM -- a 2 disc set with the complete Slackware FTP archive, a full
live filesystem, and the best of Linux archives from around the internet.
We can probably ship it to you faster than you can download it. :^)
You can install directly from the CDROM with most CDROM drives:
Any SCSI CDROM drive on a supported controller
Any IDE/ATAPI cdrom drive
Aztech CD-ROM CDA268-01A, ORCHID CD-3110
OKANO/WEARNES CDD110 CDROM drives
Sony CDU-31A or Sony CDU-33A
Sony CDU-535 or Sony CDU-531
Phillips cm206 CDROM drive with a cm260 interface
GoldStar R420 CDROM drive
Mitsumi CRMC LU005S, FX001S, FX001D
Optics Storage 8000 AT CDROM drive
Matsushita, Kotobuki, Panasonic, CreativeLabs:
CR-521, CR-522, CR-523, CR-562, CR-563
Longshine LCS-7260 CDROM drive
IBM External ISA CDROM Drive
TEAC CD-55A CDROM drive
Sanyo CDR-H94A CDROM drive
This two disc CDROM set contains a huge collection of utilities and
documentation for Linux. The first disc contains the Slackware Linux
distribution ready to install from CDROM, all related source code, and
a complete live filesystem. You can elect to run almost entirely from
the CDROM if you wish, using only about 10 megabytes of your hard drive.
It's even possible to install to an existing uncompressed MS-DOS
partition in a C:\LINUX directory. The second CDROM contains a carefully
selected collection of files from the sunsite and tsx-11 ftp sites --
almost everything ported to linux that exists!
If you want the best version of Linux, Slackware Linux, this is the product
for you. This disc set was made in September 1995. The price is $39.95.
Subscription Information:
The Slackware Linux disc is available by subscription. We update the
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Linux - The choice of GNU generation
unix.1038postmast,
From: rade@zed.co.yu (Radivoje Zonjic)
Subject: Oracle7 za SCO na Linuxu
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:55:26 GMT
From: bakicale@cps.msu.edu
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:58:56 -0400
X-Within-Url: http://www.wmd.de/wmd/staff/pauck/misc/oracle_on_linux.html
To: rade@zed.co.yu
Subject: oracle_on_linux.html
INSTALLATION OF ORACLE V 7.0.16.4.0 FOR SCO UNIX ON LINUX V 1.2.1
Prerequisites
Linux kernel
You didn't expect this!
make
We have a GNU make with Linux.
iBCS2 emulator V 1.2-950308
Allows to run binaries from other Unix systems on Linux. I had
this software in my Linux distribution in diskzc1 (german
S.u.S.E. distribution based on Slackware). You must recompile
this, if you built a new kernel.
five SCO Unix executables:
/bin/idar (archiver)
/bin/idas (assembler)
/bin/idld (linker)
/lib/idcpp (preprocessor)
/lib/idcomp (compiler)
Get them, where you can, they are required for installation
only.
200MB space in /usr/local/oracle7
This includes the RDBMS, SQL*Plus, SQL*Net TCP V1 and V2,
common files, the installer, the stage area, messages for all
languages and the default database. With some care, it may be
possible to reduce space requirement to about 120 MB.
Problems during installation
Main problems were:
1. The install procedure did not make the scripts and executables
executable, the mount of the CD under Linux left permissions as
444, no RockRidge extension (?)
2. The installer does not catch all errors, especially when
attempting to compile and link libraries. One must carefully
examine the install.log.
3. It took some time and experiments to figure out that for an easy
installation the SCO executables are required. As an alternative,
one must generate gcc, ld, as ... for SCO systems and use them
instead. This should be possible, but I had the chance to use the
idxx programs.
'Cookbook' for installation
# login as root
# make shure, iBCS2 is running, it is a loadable module
insmod /boot/iBCS
# add a group 'dba'
# add a user 'oracle7' belonging to group 'dba'
# mount CD
mkdir /cdrom
chmod 777 /cdrom
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom
# make executable executable
cd /cdrom/orainst
cp cd_link /usr/local/bin
chmod 555 /usr/local/bin/cd_link
# set environment and create directories
export ORACLE_HOME=/usr/local/oracle7
export ORACLE_SID=test
export ORACLE_TERM=vt100
export ORACLE_DOC=$ORACLE_HOME/oracle_doc
mkdir $ORACLE_HOME
mkdir $ORACLE_HOME/bin
mkdir $ORACLE_DOC # later required in installer
mkdir $ORACLE_HOME/stage # required by 'start.sh'
# start installation
bash start.sh
# enter '/usr/local/oracle7/stage' as your oracle_link directory
# ... oracle makes links to whole cd and copies orainst/ dir
chown -R oracle7.dba $ORACLE_HOME
cd $ORACLE_HOME/stage/orainst
# make binaries executable
chmod 755 b10run b10runm cd_link oiuncomp opendev orainst.cm
# make scripts executable
chmod 755 crrtsh.sh oitape oradoc oradocm orafiles orainst rootpre.sh rthd.sh s
tart.sh
# make GNU 'make' available for ORACLE
# we don't need to compile the GNU make, delivered with the ORACLE
# software, as Linux has one by default
ln -s /usr/bin/make $ORACLE_HOME/bin/make
# create a dummy /usr/lbin dir
ln -s /usr/local/bin /usr/lbin
# install SCO utilities required for 'orainst'
cd $ORACLE_HOME
mkdir SCO
cd SCO
mkdir bin
mkdir lib
cd bin
cp ???/idar . # archiver
cp ???/idas . # assembler
cp ???/idld . # linker
cd ../lib
cp ???/idcomp . # compiler
cp ???/idcpp . # preprocessor
cd ..
chmod -R a+x *
# link them to where orainst expects them
cd /bin
ln -s /usr/local/oracle7/SCO/bin/idar
ln -s /usr/local/oracle7/SCO/bin/idas
ln -s /usr/local/oracle7/SCO/bin/idld
cd /lib
ln -s /usr/local/oracle7/SCO/lib/idcomp
ln -s /usr/local/oracle7/SCO/lib/idcpp
# install the installer
cd $ORACLE_HOME
mkdir newoi
cp stage/orainst/* newoi
chown -R oracle7.dba newoi
cd newoi
orainst
# answer all questions, ignore hint to run 'rootpre.sh' for now,
# select 'Install/Upgrade/Patch Software Only',
# then 'Install from Permanent Staging Area' and select
# $ORACLE_HOME/stage as the permanent staging area,
# select only the installer to install. When done, exit the
# installer in newoi with C-x.
cd $ORACLE_HOME/orainst
# Look into $ORACLE_HOME/orainst/install.log for any errors.
# Move 'install.log' anywhere.
# Some files here have now root owner and are later used by oracle7, so
chown oracle7.dba *
# remove temporary directory
cd $ORACLE_HOME
rm -r newoi
cd orainst
# prepare some files; do not install SCO icons, no floppy install
rootpre.sh
# correct permission problems of ORACLE CD
rm $ORACLE_HOME/stage/rdbms/install/dbsup.sh
cp /cdrom/rdbms/install/dbsup.sh $ORACLE_HOME/stage/rdbms/install/dbsup.sh
chmod 755 $ORACLE_HOME/stage/rdbms/install/dbsup.sh
chown oracle7.dba $ORACLE_HOME/stage/rdbms/install/dbsup.sh
# change header file temporarily
cp /usr/include/asm/types.h /usr/include/asm/types.h.ORG
# now edit /usr/include/asm/types.h:
# comment out this lines:
# /*typedef __signed__ char __s8;*/
# /*typedef __signed__ short __s16;*/
# /*typedef __signed__ long __s32;*/
# /*typedef __signed__ long long __s64;*/
# logoff and login as oracle7
export ORACLE_HOME=/usr/local/oracle7
export ORACLE_SID=test
export ORACLE_TERM=vt100
export ORACLE_DOC=$ORACLE_HOME/oracle_doc
export _ORCA_DEBUG=1 # if you want to see some internals
PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/bin:$PATH # $ORACLE_HOME/bin MUST be first
cd $ORACLE_HOME/orainst
# now install the wanted executables
orainst
# again select 'Install/Upgrade/Patch Software Only',
# then 'Install from Permanent Staging Area'
# and then 'ORACLE7 Distributed Database option 7.0.16'
# plus 'ORACLE7 Procedural Option (PL/SQL V2) 2.0.'
# plus 'ORACLE7 Server (RDBMS) 7.0.16.4.0'
# optionally you may select i.e. SQL*Plus, SQL*Net TCP/IP V1 and/or V2
# answer other questions, don't require relinking,
# say yes to 'Would you like to install TCP/IP Protocol Adapter (V2)?'.
# The installation now should take place without any serious error.
# Examine $ORACLE_HOME/orainst/install.log again
# (ignore install.log error '/usr/local/oracle7/bin/gennttab: [:
# too many arguments')
#
# Now you are ready to create a database. Leave the installer,
# move install.log elsewhere and restart the installer again with
orainst
# After the initial questions select 'Create New Database Objects',
# enter/confirm the System Identifier (ORACLE_SID) and you will
# (surprisingly for normal, not ORACLE proven people) again see
# the main window with 'available products' and 'installed products'.
# Select the point 'ORACLE7 Server (RDBMS) 7.0.16.4.0' and install.
# You are asked for some passwords and names/sizes of database
# files. Accept them for a first test, and then the creation of the
# database is done. You may want to have a second window open
# with a 'cd $ORACLE_HOME/orainst; tail -f install.log' to see,
# what's going on, but don't be surprised to find about 235 SQL
# errors, when the data dictionary is created. The scripts always
# do something like: 'drop table ...; create table ...' to be shure,
# the table can successfully be created, but the drop gives an error,
# because on an initial run the table does not exist.
# After the installer tells you about success and leaving the installer,
# you may check the log with:
grep ORA- install.log|grep -v ORA-00942|grep -v ORA-01432|grep -v ORA-01434
# you then should get this list of SQL errors:
ORA-04043: object DBMS_STANDARD does not exist
ORA-04043: object PIDL does not exist
ORA-04043: object PIDL does not exist
ORA-04043: object DIANA does not exist
ORA-04043: object DIANA does not exist
ORA-04043: object DIUTIL does not exist
ORA-04043: object DIUTIL does not exist
ORA-04043: object PSTUBT does not exist
ORA-04043: object PSTUB does not exist
ORA-04043: object SUBPTXT2 does not exist
ORA-04043: object SUBPTXT does not exist
ORA-04043: object DBMS_SNAPSHOT does not exist
ORA-02289: sequence does not exist
ORA-04043: object DBMS_LOCK does not exist
ORA-04043: object DBMS_PIPE does not exist
# I did not check, if this are serious errors until now, because
# the statements, that cause this errors are not echoed by the scripts,
# but I'm quite sure, they are expected errors of the same sort as above
# YOUR DATABASE SHOULD NOW BE UP AND RUNNING!
# Check with
ps -a
# you should see this 5 processes
9363 v02 S 0:00 ora_pmon_test
9364 v02 S 0:00 ora_dbwr_test
9365 v02 S 0:00 ora_lgwr_test
9366 v02 S 0:09 ora_smon_test
9367 v02 S 0:00 ora_reco_test
# Check access to the database with:
sqldba mode=line
SQLDBA> connect system
# give in the password, when asked
SQLDBA> select * from cat;
# you should see about 60 names of tables, views and synonyms.
# Try to shut down the database (as user oracle7):
SQLDBA> connect internal
SQLDBA> shutdown
# after a while you should see 3 messages:
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.
# start it up again:
SQLDBA> startup
# after a while you should see messages similar to this:
ORACLE instance started.
Database mounted.
Database opened.
Total System Global Area 4448020 bytes
Fixed Size 40100 bytes
Variable Size 3990128 bytes
Database Buffers 409600 bytes
Redo Buffers 8192 bytes
# leave SQLDBA:
SQLDBA> exit
# as root, run $ORACLE_HOME/orainst/root.sh
cd $ORACLE_HOME/orainst
export ORACLE_SERVER=T # to get entries in /etc/services
root.sh
# as root, clean up
# change modified system files back to original
cp /usr/include/asm/types.h.ORG /usr/include/asm/types.h
# remove executables only required for installation
rm /usr/local/bin/cd_link
cd /
rm bin/idar bin/idas bin/idld lib/idcomp lib/idcpp
cd $ORACLE_HOME
rm -r SCO
# If the default sizes of the database are not, what you wanted,
# you find 2 scripts in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs: crdbtest.sql crdb2test.sql
# Feel free to modify the statements in it, shut down the database,
# remove all files in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs named '*test.dbf' and '*test.ctl',
# in 'crdb2test.sql' uncomment this lines:
# #set termout on
# #set echo on
# #spool crdb2test.lst
# then execute the scripts with SQLDBA
SQLDBA> connect internal
SQLDBA> @crdbtest.sql
SQLDBA> @crdb2test.sql
# to get a new database with your sizes created.
_________________________________________________________________
Georg Rehfeld <rehfeld@wmd.de>, June 1995
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unix.1040postmast,
From: rade+@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Radivoje Zonjic)
Subject: Linux Counter: There are 21059 registered Linux users
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 00:27:12 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.announce ]
[ Author was Harald T. Alvestrand ]
[ Posted on Thu, 05 Oct 95 18:01:16 GMT ]
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The Linux Counter is an attempt to provide at least one basis for guesstimating
how many Linux users there are in the world. It has been running since
September 1993.
An uptodate version is always available by anonymous FTP from
ftp://aun.uninett.no/pub/misc/linux-counter, together with other
reports based on the same material, and on the Web at
http://domen.uninett.no/~hta/linux/counter.
The report should be posted to col.misc every month, but this hasn't worked
for several months; please have patience with me.
To register:
WWW:
Start at http://domen.uninett.no/~hta/linux/counter, and follow the links.
EMAIL:
To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
linux-counter@uninett.no, with the SUBJECT line being one of
I use Linux at home
I use Linux at work
I use Linux at school
The reply will contain information about how to register more
information about yourself, your machine and your friends, if you
want to.
Status of the Linux counter, as of Wed Oct 4 05:02:54 MET 1995
There are 21059 registered Linux users
I estimate this as being between 0.2 and 5% of the total number of Linux users,
giving the total community size something between 421.180 and 10.529.500 members.
See the file README.ESTIMATES for the details of why I think so.
PLACES WHERE LINUX IS USED
==========================
Self Other Sum %Sum Place
16098 354 16452 77% home
5827 206 6033 28% work
1874 578 2452 11% school
1749 99 1848 8% somewhere
69 0 69 0% not used
- --------------------------
20010 1118 21128 100% TOTAL
NOTE: Some people use Linux in multiple places, so the total is not
the sum of the columns.
COUNTRIES WHERE LINUX IS USED
=============================
Country Self Other Sum MPop Linux/M
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
1 fi Finland 771 13 784 5.1 152.1
2 is Iceland 35 1 36 0.3 134.1
3 no Norway 351 1 352 4.3 81.4
4 se Sweden 443 13 456 8.8 50.5
5 dk Denmark 244 2 246 5.2 47.0
6 nl Netherlands 637 10 647 15.4 41.5
7 ca Canada 1026 41 1067 28.1 36.5
8 us USA 9050 191 9241 260.7 34.7
9 au Australia 585 21 606 18.1 32.3
10 at Austria 221 14 235 7.9 28.0
11 si Slovenia 54 5 59 2.0 27.6
12 de Germany 2119 71 2190 81.1 26.1
13 ch Switzerland 167 1 168 7.0 23.7
14 nz New Zealand 67 2 69 3.4 19.8
15 be Belgium 185 507 692 10.1 18.3
16 ie Ireland 64 4 68 3.5 18.1
17 gb Great Britain 1000 22 1022 58.1 17.2
18 bm Bermuda 1 0 1 0.1 16.4
19 il Israel 82 2 84 5.0 16.2
20 ee Estonia 26 7 33 1.6 16.2
21 sg Singapore 46 0 46 2.9 16.1
22 hk Hong Kong 73 0 73 5.9 12.4
23 fr France 610 29 639 57.8 10.5
24 lu Luxembourg 4 0 4 0.4 10.0
25 cr Costa Rica 28 0 28 3.1 9.0
26 hu Hungary 73 6 79 10.3 7.1
27 pt Portugal 72 2 74 10.5 6.8
28 it Italy 390 17 407 58.1 6.7
29 hr Croatia 29 0 29 4.7 6.2
30 gr Greece 59 1 60 10.1 5.9
31 cz Czech Rebublic 53 4 57 10.4 5.1
32 bz Belize 1 0 1 0.2 4.8
33 es Spain 173 6 179 39.3 4.4
34 za South Africa 123 0 123 30.2 4.1
35 tw Taiwan 70 1 71 21.3 3.3
36 cl Chile 36 0 36 13.5 2.7
37 jp Japan 297 0 297 125.1 2.4
38 sr Suriname 1 0 1 0.4 2.4
39 pr Puerto Rico 8 0 8 3.8 2.1
40 mo Macau 1 0 1 0.5 2.1
41 uy Uruguay 6 0 6 3.2 1.9
42 kr Korea (South) 83 8 91 45.1 1.8
43 kw Kuwait 3 0 3 1.8 1.6
44 pl Poland 62 12 74 38.4 1.6
45 pa Panama 4 0 4 2.6 1.6
46 sk Slovakia 8 1 9 5.4 1.5
47 lv Latvia 4 0 4 2.7 1.5
48 ro Romania 29 2 31 23.2 1.3
49 jm Jamaica 3 0 3 2.6 1.2
50 my Malaysia 17 1 18 18.0 0.9
51 lt Lithuania 3 0 3 3.8 0.8
52 ar Argentine 24 1 25 32.7 0.7
53 na Namibia 1 0 1 1.5 0.7
54 bg Bulgaria 5 0 5 8.8 0.6
55 ru Russia 76 4 80 149.6 0.5
56 ve Venezuela 10 0 10 20.1 0.5
57 br Brazil 76 7 83 158.7 0.5
58 mk Macedonia 1 0 1 2.2 0.5
59 mx Mexico 36 4 40 92.2 0.4
60 ec Ecuador 4 0 4 10.5 0.4
61 tr Turkey 20 1 21 60.9 0.3
62 co Colombia 10 0 10 34.3 0.3
63 lb Lebanon 1 0 1 3.6 0.3
64 ua Ukraine 9 1 10 51.9 0.2
65 th Thailand 10 0 10 59.5 0.2
66 ph Philippines 11 2 13 68.5 0.2
67 yu Yugoslavia (Serbia and Mo 1 0 1 10.8 0.1
68 cs Czechoslovakia (former) 1 0 1 15.7 0.1
69 eg Egypt 3 0 3 60.8 0.0
70 id Indonesia 9 24 33 197.2 0.0
71 in India 38 6 44 919.9 0.0
72 pk Pakistan 5 5 10 125.2 0.0
73 xe Europe (Somewhere in it) 12 0 12 320.0 0.0
74 xs Soviet Union (former) 3 1 4 147.4 0.0
75 xx Unknown 39 44 83 5000.0 0.0
76 cn China 7 0 7 1190.4 0.0
77 xw The World (Somewhere in i 28 0 28 5000.0 0.0
78 su 4 0 4 0.0 0.0
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unix.1039postmast,
From: bdm@rainbird.hobbiton.CO.YU (Misa Trivkovic)
Subject: mtools + Windows 95
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:40:55 GMT
Samo malo obavestenje :), ako sa mcopy kopirate nesto na Windows 95 particiju
i to jos u \, pa to prekinete sa ctrl-c, ode particija bolje nego format-om...
bdm
unix.1041postmast,
From: Dragan.Nikolic%p7.f101.n101.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Dragan Nikolic)
Subject: Re: LINUX na hard disku? Ne, ne, kolega, nesto ste pobrkali...
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 01:08:02
-=> Quoting Sasa Sekulic je 27 Sep 95 01:13:01 je izjavio sledece <=-
SS> Evo ukratko moj problem.
SS> Imam Conner CFS-850, sa instaliranim drajverom sa diskove vece od 528
SS> MB (nazalost, imam samo 386 sa IDE kontrolerom i starijim BIOS-om). U
SS> cemu je fazon? Podijelio sam disk na 3 particije, svaka od po ~280 MB,
SS> i to sam uradio iz drajvera. Ne mogu da instaliram Linux na trecu
SS> particiju! Pokusavao sam i sa upisivanjem parametara pri boot:
SS> promptu, sa upisivanjem parametara u fdisk (Linux - x, pa s i c za
SS> upisivanje pravog broja glava i sektora) - uvijek mi pri fdisk p
SS> prikaze da particije ne zavrsavaju na kraju cilindra. Setup nece ni da
SS> se startuje zbog segmentation fault-a. Linux sam inace normalno
SS> instalirao na Maxtor 7245AT, i fino radi. Ja vicem HELP!
SS> A vi?
SS>
SS>
SS> mad.max
SS> Help! I need somebody... Help! Now just anybody... Help! You know I
SS> need someone... HEEEELP!!!
Zdravo Sale!
Evo ja cu pokusati da ti kazem o tome nesto ja doduse tih problema nemam
ali sa zadnjeg Linux kongresa u nemackoj sam po tom pitanju poslusao jedno
predavanje. Tebi zreba uglavno Kernel da bude u particiji ispod 1024
cilindra to znaci onu zadnju particiju podeli u linuxovom fdisku na pola
i na onoj prvoj particiji instaliras linux a ostalo mozes da podelis sa
napomenom da u LILO moras da ubacis i onu particiju koja iznad 1024 cilindra
da bi je imao pri butovanju. Nadam se da sam ti pomogao.:-)
Pozdrav PARA:-)
... GNU is not UNIX
* Origin: Kragujevac BBS; 034/557-529; Rad.vr.: 23.00-06.00 (38:101/101.7)
unix.1042postmast,
From: alexp@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Aleksandar Pavlovic)
Subject: QNX
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 22:06:22 GMT
unix.1043postmast,
From: alexp@osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu (Aleksandar Pavlovic)
Subject: QNX
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 22:29:03 GMT
unix.1044postmast,
From: todorp@fon (Predrag Todorovic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 23:17:21 GMT
Dragan Popovic (dpop@sezam.UUCP) je napisao:
> Kako se vidi zadnjih mjeseci je stisala euforija oko DosEmu ali u
> cijeloj gunguli nisam nasao odgovor na meni interesantno pitanje:
> "Kako pristupiti korektno Stacker v.4.0 komprimiranom volumenu iz
> DosEmu ?", ako je to ikako i moguce. A bilo je nekih najava od
> >>POSTMAST-a<< u poruci PC.OS.5:UNIX:17, kako se vidi iz dole
> prilozenog, da je to (mozda) rjeseno. Na moje upite nisam dobio
> odgovor. Ako je neko drugi spreman da podijeli svoja dragocjena
> iskustva po tom pitanju O.K. Thanks !
Prvo sta znaci korektno? Da li si pristupio nekorektno? Ja nemam stacker 4.0
ali sa verzijom 3 radi vec godinu dana. Mogao bi da posaljes svoj dosemu.conf,
posto ovako ispada vracanje zasto ti ne radi stacker. Ja sad koristim
kernel 1.2.1 i dosemu 0.53.
Pozdrav od Pedje!
ps. Da li si pokusao da disk na kome je stackerisana particija ukljucis u
dosemu.conf kao disk { wholedisk "/dev/..." }? To bi trebalo da radi, a
sto se tice config.sys i autoexec.bat, tu je sve kao i pod dosom.
unix.1045postmast,
From: SALE.OLUJIC@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org (Aleksandar Olujic)
Subject: Re: Linux Counter: There are 21059 registered Linux users
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 95 02:15:04 +0100
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Public reply to Radivoje Zonjic 's message written on 06.10.95
under subject Linux Counter: There are 21059 registered Linux users
posted in /YU/OS/UNIX newsgroup.
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-> [ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.announce ]
-> [ Author was Harald T. Alvestrand ]
-> [ Posted on Thu, 05 Oct 95 18:01:16 GMT ]
-> The Linux Counter is an attempt to provide at least one basis for
-> guesstimating how many Linux users there are in the world. It has been
-> running since September 1993.
->
[...]
-> COUNTRIES WHERE LINUX IS USED
-> =============================
-> Country Self Other Sum MPop Linux/M
-> - ---------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
-> 67 yu Yugoslavia (Serbia and Mo 1 0 1 10.8 0.1
Ma nije moguce da sam samo ja posalo mail na linux-counter... ?
A jos sam nisam ni drzavljanin :)))
Pozdrav.
Sale
unix.1046logan,
Da li neko zna nesto vise o QNX oper. sistemu
Koja je aktuelna verzija?
Kako se moze nabaviti?
Kako ceo sistem radi na 386,486,586....?
unix.1047spantic,
-> #1045, postmast> From: SALE.OLUJIC@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org (Aleksandar Olujic)
> -> 67 yu Yugoslavia (Serbia and Mo 1 0 1 10.8 0.1
Teško ;) Verovatnije je da su usporeni.
unix.1048postmast,
From: Dragan.Nikolic%p7.f101.n101.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Dragan Nikolic)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 03:24:02
-=> Quoting Andrea Prunic je 01 Oct 95 22:36:24 je izjavio sledece <=-
AP> From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
AP> Newsgroups: yu.os.unix
AP>
AP> BTW, kad sam vec kod novog diska od 516MB, moze li se bez problema
AP> pustiti da pod linuxom i kernelom 1.2.9 postoji swap particija od
AP> 1024. do 1049. cilindra? Posto je fdisk prijavljivao da mu nesto nije
AP> potaman po tom pitanju, zanima me, a verujem i jos koga, mogu li se
AP> diskovi sa vise od 1024 cilindara koristiti bez specijalnih muvanja
AP> pod linuxom, tj. da ih on automatski vidi i ispravno koristi?
Da samo sa jednim trikom particija na kome bi ti bio kernel mora biti
do 1024 cilindra koliko ja znam:))
Pozdrav PARA:)))
... GNU is not UNIX
* Origin: Kragujevac BBS; 034/557-529; Rad.vr.: 23.00-06.00 (38:101/101.7)
unix.1060postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:40:26 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-30-95 04:12 Mdave@sezam.uucp wrote:
> BTW2, koristim ovu priliku da Vecxu i Dragishu posebno zamolim za
> pomoc, jer ne znam dvojicu vecih znalaca linuxa.
Md> Ijaooo, ijaooo, njih dvojicu u istoj recenici, pa jos vecxa (
Md> Obrovac-Beograd :)))))))))))) ) prvog... ijaooo....
Ahem, buhm, hum hum hum, malo mi nejasno ovo ovdi.....
Sto, sta fali Vecxi&Dragishi? Kad sam bio malji deca za linux, i Tiho mi je
bio bog za isto, a sad su to Vecxa i Dragisha. Mozda otkrijem jos ponekog,
ko zna? :))
A to sto je Vex prvi na spisku je zato sto mi je on blizi k ruci, tako da
mogu (skoro) uvek da odem na etf i da mu kukam na rame junacko ako mi
nesto krepa od linuxa, a Dragishi, jel'te, ne mogu. Mlogo mi daleko...:)
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1059postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:40:23 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-30-95 07:03 Dragisha@hobbiton.co.yu wrote:
Dr> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
-> BTW, kad sam vec kod novog diska od 516MB, moze li se bez problema pustiti
-> da pod linuxom i kernelom 1.2.9 postoji swap particija od 1024. do 1049.
-> cilindra? Posto je fdisk prijavljivao da mu nesto nije potaman po tom
-> pitanju, zanima me, a verujem i jos koga, mogu li se diskovi sa vise od
-> 1024 cilindara koristiti bez specijalnih muvanja pod linuxom, tj. da ih on
-> automatski vidi i ispravno koristi?
Dr> mdave koristi 850Mb, sa nesto muvanja koje je objasnjeno u knjizici
Dr> koja ide uz InfoMagic, a ja sam sretni korisnik dva diska od 1024+
Dr> cilindara i nemam nikakvih problema. Jedina fora je da, ako se koristi
Dr> lilo, kernel imageovi budu ispod 1024 cilindra, jer oni se citaju preko
Dr> BIOSa. Ako lilo prijavi da to nije slucaj, rjesenje je ponovno
Dr> kopiranje kernel imageta dok se ovaj ne smiluje da ga i snimi ispod
Dr> 1024 cilindra :). To sve detektuje lilo, i kad on prodje, znaci da je
Dr> sve ok, naravno. Meni se kazem desilo jednom, i poslije prvog
Dr> ponovljenog rm/cp sve je bilo ok.
Dr> swap moze ladno da bude iznad 1024 cilindra, on se cita tek kad se
Dr> kernel inicijalizira.
E 'vako. Da bih namestio sebi je li 13MB swap-a iznad 1024. cinlindra, usao
sam u bios i napisao da disk ima 1049/16/63 sto je on 'ladno progutao (a
sto i ne bi :) i onda digao linux sa boot/root diskete. On se naravno
pobunio kad sam startovao fdisk da ima razlicite fizicke i logicke krajeve
za disk, ali je prosao. Onda sam napravio trecu primarnu particiju (prve
dve su dos), krknuo linux type 82 na tako dobijenih 13MB, pri cemu se fdisk
i dalje bunio oko razlike u logickoj/fizickoj velicini i kako bi to boze
moj moglo da negativno utice na neke programe (!), ali je snimio particionu
tabelu kao takvu. Posle toga ja vrnem u bios-u podatke nazad na 1024/16/63
i linux sad radi sa tim i starim swapom bez problema, tj. prilikom
mount-ovanja kaze "adding swap 13xxxx" pa jos jednom za onu drugu particiju
sa drugog diska.
Kernel jeste na particiji koja je ispod 1024. cilindra i sistem se dize bez
frke.
Jedino sto mene sad zanima da li je to sve sigurno, odnosno da li bi na
starijim plocama bez lba i ostalih zezanja ako mogao da se drzi i linux
native, posto ortak koji je probao istu stvar na svojoj 386dx40 ploci koja
je novija od moje, kaze da ga ima nekih problema. Disk nam je isti, quantum
maverick 540M.
BTW, koje je to muvanje koje se pominje u InfoMagic-ovoj knjizici (blago
tebi pa imas CD...ima li sanse da se on dovuce/dobije na jedno kopiranje?)
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1058postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:40:14 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-26-95 03:13 Dragan.Nikolic@p7.f101.n101.z38.setnet.co.yu wrote:
ZP> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
> butovanje je od strane fsck-a dalo krasnu poruku:
> "block bitmap 264275204 for group 0 not in group"
> i od tog trenutka moj drugi disk na kome mi je na dve particije linux, je
> mrtav. Odnosno, samo glavna /dev/hdb1, dok je /dev/hdb7 OK.
Dr> Evo da pokusam da ti pomognem, posto imam jednu veoma dobro
Dr> opremljenu knjigu za Linux(DRX.LINUX sa 1200 strana:-)), pa cu iz nje
Dr> da citiram jedan deo, od kojeg verujem da ce i pomoci.:-)
Dr> filesystem type saves copies of the superblock at "block group"
Dr> boundaries on the drive-usually, every 8K blocks. In order to tell
Dr> e2fsck to use a copy of the superblock, you can use a command such as
Dr> # e2fsck -b 8193 <partition>
Dr> where <partition> is the partition on which the filesystem resides.
Dr> The -b 8193 ption tells e2fsck to use the copy of the superblock stored
Dr> at block 8193 in the filesystem.
Eh da, i to sam pokusao posle svega, ali ni to nece izgleda vise da radi,
posto mi se cini da je ceo superblok deadly dead, zajedno sa samim fs-om i
svim na njemu, tako da cu verovatno morati da radim jedan mke2fs
/dev/hdb7, kao sto vec rekoh...
Nisam imao nista strasno bitno, osim nekih sorsova, ali se nadam da ce se
pojaviti negde nekako ti CD-ovi sa kojih sam ih skidao, a ionako sam vec
stavio novi linux na novi djisk, pa i nije mnogo strasno.
Na kraju, ponovicu svoje administratorske vestine... :)
Anyway, hvala na pomoci, sok moze i 'vako i 'nako. :)
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1057postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:40:06 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-25-95 21:40 Bdm@rainbird.hobbiton.co. wrote:
Bd> ## A sta bih radio sa diskeditom kad on verovatno ni ne bi mogao da
Bd> cita po ## linux particiji? I gde da trazim gresku ako bi i citao?
Bd> DE /M cita kao lud, ovo ti je korisno samo pa krpis ASCII fajlove.
Bd> Sa hobbbitona mozes dl-ovati ext2edit ili tako nesto, znaci DE za
Bd> ext2fs.
Jeste, samo imam malih problema pri tome : ne mogu da dobijem hob nikako...
:-((
Nema veze, skinuo sam sa galeba to cudo, ali on trazi instaliran nekakav
readline da bi se kompajlirao, a ja nemam pojma gde to da nadjem, osim opet
na hob-u. I tako u krug....
Kako god bilo, cini mi se da je meni ceo fs krepa' jerbo sam ja stavio na
novi disk novi linux, i pokusao sa njegovim e2fsck-om da pokrpim stvar, ali
mi se cini da je on samo sredio stvar do kr(j)aja.
So, verovatno ce pasti jedan mke2fs /dev/hdb7. :-\
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1056postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.32
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:06:19 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi) ]
[ Posted on Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:50:18 GMT ]
Due to the silly SCSI tape problem, and generally my moving machines
here at the university I decide I might as well release a 1.3.32 kernel
to get me in sync at the new machine. This release
- fixes SCSI tape (and IP_FORWARD) compilations
- fixes a few alpha compilation problems (the SMP patches did bite the
alpha) and adds the patches from David M-T
- changes the default config for Linux/x86 to use IDE CD-ROMs instead
of SCSI. Guess what the new university machine has? ;-)
- fixes the warning of recursive dependencies in the math emulator
- cleans up the NFS client code in the kernel quite a bit, thanks to
Olaf Kirch.
- better ksymoops.cc program that does disassembly too.
The patches aren't that large, but hopefully they clear up some of the
confusion.
Linus
unix.1055postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.31
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:05:56 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi) ]
[ Posted on Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:19:59 GMT ]
I made a new release (aka the "OJ release") of Linux, 1.3.31 available
on the normal ftp-sites. This release adds:
- early SMP support. This is very much "test at your own risk" stuff,
and I haven't really verified that it compiles. You'd better contact
Alan about this if you're interested. Alan Cox.
- various minor alpha patches. David M-T.
- readv/writev emulation (only works for things where you can't
distinguish multiple read/write calls, notably TCP - it' sgood enough
for X11 on the alpha). Me.
- Some networking fixes (the TCP socket cache bug should be gone for
good). Alan Cox.
- Pentium systems will use the internal cycle counter for faster (and
more accurate, I hope) gettimeofday(). Me.
- various network driver updates, should also make quite a few of them
work better on the alpha too.. Paul Gortmaker.
- plip update. Niibe Yutaka.
- eata scsi driver update. Michael Neuffer.
- SCSI tape update (Kai Makisara)
- use ELF core-dumps for elf binaries
Also, if you have SCSI tapes enabled it turns out that 1.3.31 won't
compile on the x86 architecture. Just add this one line to
include/asm-i386/ioctl.h and you should be ok (or just upgrade to an
alpha ;-)
#define _IOC_TYPE(nr) (((nr) >> _IOC_TYPESHIFT) & _IOC_TYPEMASK)
Hope that fixes it..
Linus
unix.1053postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.27
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:05:36 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.Helsinki.FI) ]
[ Posted on Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:00:57 GMT ]
It's a bird..
It's a plane..
No, it's KernelMan, faster than a speeding bullet, to your rescue.
Doing new kernel versions in under 5 seconds flat..
[ Actually, it's been more than 24 hours, so I'm allowed ]
1.3.27 is available at the normal kernel sites (and mirrors, although it
is conceivable that mirror sites haven't even caught up with 1.3.26
yet). The 1.3.27 kernel should fix the Oops messages at login if you
used tcsh: it's a different fix than the one I sent out earlier, as I
decided that I used the wrong approach at first.
[ "Technical" digression: the original patch continued to see the page
fault counters as a part of the memory management information, which
doesn't necessarily make sense. The faults were due to the memory
management information having been free'd earlier, and no longer
available at the time a process did a "wait4()".
The 1.3.27 fix is essentially just realizing that the page fault
counters don't count memory management things as much as events that
occur in a thread, and as such the counters should be thread-specific
rather than shared across all threads sharing a common memory map. ]
Anyway, that's one large reason to upgrade to 1.3.27 (if you haven't
even upgraded to 1.3.26: shame on you, you lazy bum!). There are a few
other reasons:
- stallion multiport driver incorporated (previously available as
separate patches).
- sbpcd driver update
- some of the mouse drivers had problems with the modularization code:
that's fixed (I think).
Eh, that's it, I guess. No 300 million dollar unveiling event for this
kernel, I'm afraid, but you're still supposed to think of this as the
"happening of the century" (at least until the next kernel comes along).
Oh, and this is another kernel in that great and venerable "BugFree(tm)"
series of kernels. So be not afraid of bugs, but go out in the streets
and deliver this message of joy to the masses.
Linus
unix.1052postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.26
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:03:19 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi) ]
[ Posted on Wed, 13 Sep 1995 10:03:52 GMT ]
Oh, yeah! _Yet_ another linux version is available, and all good kernel
hackers (and everybody else too, of course) are supposed to flood the
ftp-sites with requests for it.
1.3.26 does "interesting" things to the process handling, but I'm
hopeful that it will be stable despite this. And we're getting closer
and closer to full "clone()" functionality and threads (in fact, the
kernel uses "clone()" to do the intial code duplication in init).
Other 1.3.26 features:
- all the mouse drivers should support SIGIO now (the mac emulator
wants this, it seems).
- the mouse drivers can be compiled as modules.
- various networking updates (icmp rewritten by Alan)
- ide-cd driver correctly initializes slave CD's
- scsi tape update
- generic scsi driver updates
- sound driver (bad) timeout bug fixed
- ext and ext2 filesystems as modules
- some SMP header files added (yes, Alan has it working, but no, the
standard kernel sources hasn't got all his patches yet).
- faster BogoMIPS calculations (yes, it now boots 2 seconds faster than
it used to: we're considering changing the name from "Linux" to
"InstaBOOT").
And as usual, I really want to know about any potential problems. Also,
as usual, I don't have time to parse the Oops messages for you, so you
need to do that yourself. I added the "ksymoops" program to the kernel
source tree: you need g++ and the C++ libraries to compile it, but if
you have that you may find it an easier way to parse those pesky oops
messages.
Linus
unix.1051postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.23
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:03:11 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi) ]
[ Posted on Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:14:42 GMT ]
Eh,
I just made 1.3.23 available, as 1.3.22 had a few problems that made it
more-or-less unusable for some people. I hope 1.3.23 fixes the bootup
panic with the SLIP driver. It should also be better at recognizing
harddisk partitions, but maybe the numbering changed a bit.
If you have problems mounting some of your partitions, could you please
check the bootup messages about the partitioning? It should look
something like this:
Partition check:
hda: xxx
hdb: xxx
and I'd be interested to hear about differences in output between 1.3.23
and earlier kernels..
Other changes
- updates to the ide and ide-cd drivers
- igmp should compile again
- firewall oneliner fix
Keep me posted on the behaviour of this kernel,
Linus
unix.1050postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.22
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:02:56 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi) ]
[ Posted on Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:59:36 GMT ]
Hi,
I just made a new kernel version available on the normal ftp sites.
1.3.22 does:
- created new top-level directory called "Documentation". I moved some
of the README files there just to start the process, and eventually I
expect all the readmes (except for the top-level general README) to
start to migrate..
- updated alpha tree. This should have most if not all of David M-T's
patches, but I haven't actually tried to compile it myself (I'm
waiting for the faster machine ;-). I'd suggest waiting for
confirmation from David (especially as I changed some of the bit
operations blindly).
- kernel thread support starting to appear. The "clone()" system call
is enabled again, and gives you a finer-granularity "fork()" (in
fact, fork() is internally implemented as a clone() with a specific
set of cloning flags). You can chose to share your file descriptors
across a fork(), for example (so when one process closes a file, the
other process has its file closed) etc. You get "traditional" thread
type behaviour if you clone your VM, files, fs, and signal handler
information.
- pte modifications done through an architecture-specific function to
allow sparc etc people to do special things.
- aztcd driver update
- ide driver update
- mcd driver update
- extended paritition handling updated
- scc driver update
- kmalloc rewritten
- various network updates, mcast routing code etc
Kernel threads still have races when it comes to memory area handling
(one process unmapping an area while another process is using it..), and
it will be a while until kernel threads are really stable and supported.
The current code is usable, if untested, though.
Ok, keep me posted on how this works for you: I'm trying to track down a
few strange reports on the 1.3.x series, and it helps if people do take
the time to test it and pound on it a bit (yes, the 1.2.x series are the
stable kernels, but aren't you 1.2.x people getting a wee bit bored by
them already?)
Linus
unix.1049postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.21
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:02:46 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.Helsinki.FI) ]
[ Posted on Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:21:10 GMT ]
Hi everybody,
I'm back from the US, and (as expected) found a lot of mail in my
mailbox. I've tried to find all the important patches, and have
integrated them into linux-1.3.21. But if you have sent me a patch and
it hasn't shown up, it may well be that I have simply lost it in the
flood..
Anyway, 1.3.21 does the following:
- slightly better make-rules: it should make corretly even if you have
forgotten to do a "make clean" after changing the kernel configuration.
- "msync()" system call, and better shared memory handling.
- updated and fixed ide driver, the new one also is able to handle the
Triton chipset bus master ide features.
- optcd driver update
- the lp driver de-registers the ports it used when unloaded as a
module.
- /proc/scsi doesn't blow up any more (it doesn't work, but it doesn't
hurt anything else, at least).
- updated ksmbfs filesystem: this one should be faster for large
read/write operations.
- updated networking code.. Some ipv6 defines, but no ipv6
functionality yet.
- fixed arp that didn't work for some addresses.
Please do check this out: I hope the 1.3.x series is starting to
stabilize now. And keep the comments coming,
Linus
unix.1054postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Linux-1.3.27
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:05:46 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Linus Torvalds (Linus.Torvalds@cs.Helsinki.FI) ]
[ Posted on Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:14:16 GMT ]
Linus Torvalds: "Linux-1.3.27" (Sep 14, 16:00):
>
> Oh, and this is another kernel in that great and venerable "BugFree(tm)"
> series of kernels. So be not afraid of bugs, but go out in the streets
> and deliver this message of joy to the masses.
Ehhh.. Ahh.. We seem to have had a off-by-one error, and it's only now
with the advent of the all-new-and-improved (20% more for the SAME
PRICE) 1.3.28 kernel that we're moving into the "BugFree(tm)" series.
1.3.28 has:
- improved module support (notably scsi and sound)
- various minor alpha fixes from David M-T
- the kernel internally uses a "kdev_t" device type, and most of the
work to internally use 24-bit minor numbers has been done.
- ide-cd bugfixes
- console character mapping changes, and a "font reset" ioctl to get
back the original font.
- plip driver update
- /proc/scsi should work again
- updated kernel timer handling for exact timekeeping
- NULL pointer fixes for the updated process handling
Note that this patch applies on top of a _clean_ 1.3.27: if you applied
my earlier pre-patch that fixed the NULL pointer stuff, you need to
un-apply it (" cd /usr/src/linux ; patch -R -p1 < old-patch ") before
applying the real 1.3.28 patch.
Linus
unix.1061postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 06:25:06 GMT
Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
-> Jedino sto mene sad zanima da li je to sve sigurno, odnosno da li bi na
-> starijim plocama bez lba i ostalih zezanja ako mogao da se drzi i linux
-> native, posto ortak koji je probao istu stvar na svojoj 386dx40 ploci koja
-> je novija od moje, kaze da ga ima nekih problema. Disk nam je isti, quantum
-> maverick 540M.
Moja ploca je sve samo ne nova. LBA, nikad cula :).
-> BTW, koje je to muvanje koje se pominje u InfoMagic-ovoj knjizici (blago
-> tebi pa imas CD...ima li sanse da se on dovuce/dobije na jedno kopiranje?)
Uglavnom ne, ima toga dosta i po BG, ali ne mislim d ti je to nesto
isplatno. Mene su 4CD kostala 40ak DEM ($25+$5), a snimanje samo jednog aje
valjda toliko. Ima i u Madjarskoj, tamo su ga ljudi kupovali.
dd
unix.1062vitez.koja,
-> #1045, postmast#=> -> 67 yu Yugoslavia (Serbia and Mo 1 0 1 10.8 0.1
#=>
#=> Ma nije moguce da sam samo ja posalo mail na
#=> linux-counter... ? A jos sam nisam ni drzavljanin :)))
Nisi ti u pitanju... tvoj glas, kao i svi ostali glasovi
eventualno poslati odavde do pre par nedelja otišli su ili
pod Europe ili pod World (ako si poslao sa .org domena).
Mi smo dodati tek pre tih par nedelja, a sa nama su upali i
Makedonci i još jedna zemlja.
unix.1063ikordic,
-> #981, postmastRE: May the Schwartz be with you
=> 19:17:08 -0700): "I had never ever been instructed not to run
=> Crack while at Intel. I had started running it on my own
Bogte, koliko frke oko gluposti. A ovo gore je u najmanju ruku smešno -
"nenene, nisam ja masovni ubica, kada sam se zaposlio u firmu niko mi nije
eksplicitno rekao da NE smem da kasapim kolege testerom". Bezveze.
I čemu ovolika buka oko svega toga? Tip je povredio postojeće zakone, bio je
svestan svojih postupaka i išao je na šemu "ma, neće me provaliti". Da li iza
svega ovoga stoji neki dublji razlog koji se ne može išćitati iz poruka koje
su ovde okačene, pa otuda te razne fors grupe?
unix.1064.sima,
Hi
Gde se moze sada moze naci Linux.
unix.1065postmast,
From: anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:08:16 GMT
Dragisa N. Duric (dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU) wrote:
: -> Pa davim jerbo je po newsovima bash bilo frke sa slucajem Randala, mnogo
: -> kontraverznih pricica, motiva ... zamalo pa da stvore novi OJ trial.
:
: Ma kakve kontroverze, BrE?! Sve je kao dan jasno, i kad procitas security
: report o crackovima i gateu treba bas da mu budes obozavalac pa da ne vidis
: da je kriv 101%.
Trollu!:) Ne vuci me za x taster :).
-+-
Igor Loncarevic, anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu
anubis@ho.com
anubis@cview.com
Linux - The choice of GNU generation
unix.1066postmast,
From: vukota@fon (Milos Vukotic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 07:31:25 GMT
Srdan Simic (.sima@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
: Hi
: Gde se moze sada moze naci Linux.
^^^^ ^^^^
Na galebu (ili RC-u ETF-a) ,
Vukota
unix.1067postmast,
From: ian@upstream.UUCP (Ivan Nejgebauer)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:41:01 GMT
In article <sezam$unix:01.054.4017@sezam> "Dragan Popovic"
<dpop@sezam.UUCP> writes:
>> Kako se vidi zadnjih mjeseci je stisala euforija oko DosEmu ali u
>> cijeloj gunguli nisam nasao odgovor na meni interesantno pitanje:
>> "Kako pristupiti korektno Stacker v.4.0 komprimiranom volumenu iz
>> DosEmu ?", ako je to ikako i moguce.
Ne znam kako je Stacker namesten kod tebe, ali ja sam se jos iz
vremena verzije 2.0 navikao da se ucitava kao drajver iz CONFIG.SYS, i
nisam to menjao ni u 4.0. Sa takvom konfiguracijom je dosemu radio iz
prve, u pocetku sa wholedisk a onda i sa partition. I radi do danas.
Dosemu je 0.53pl44, kernel 1.2.8, DOS 6.0.
--
// E-mail: ian@panon.ns.ac.yu //
unix.1068postmast,
From: damjan.janev@informa.mk (Damjan Janev)
Subject: dosemu
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:25:00 GMT
Koja je najnovija verzija dosemu-a? Meni treba neka koja radi sa 1.2.8
kernelom.
damJANev (damjan.janev@informa.mk ; ljanev@cerera.etf.ukim.edu.mk)
P.S. Dali pod dosemu rade CD-ROM, Sound Blaster i ostale hardveske
zavrzlame?
---
■ ATP/Linux 1.42 ■ Cities, like cats, will reveal themselves at night.
unix.1069postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:00:30 GMT
Igor Kordic (ikordic@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
-> RE: May the Schwartz be with you
-> => 19:17:08 -0700): "I had never ever been instructed not to run
-> => Crack while at Intel. I had started running it on my own
-> Bogte, koliko frke oko gluposti. A ovo gore je u najmanju ruku smesno -
-> "nenene, nisam ja masovni ubica, kada sam se zaposlio u firmu niko mi nije
-> eksplicitno rekao da NE smem da kasapim kolege testerom". Bezveze.
-> I cemu ovolika buka oko svega toga? Tip je povredio postojece zakone, bio je
-> svestan svojih postupaka i isao je na semu "ma, nece me provaliti". Da li iza
-> svega ovoga stoji neki dublji razlog koji se ne moze iscitati iz poruka koje
-> su ovde okacene, pa otuda te razne fors grupe?
Ma nemam pojma koji je anubisu da davi s tim xpostovima, ja sam prije par
dana naisao na URL, pogledao security raport iz Intela i sve je jasno.
Covjek je crackovao 2-3 passwd fajla, na tudjim resursima, pa se logovao
kroz firewall i tako to...
Fora je sto je medju Perl korisnicima jako poznat i to dize ovu frku.
dd
unix.1078postmast,
From: vukota@fon (Milos Vukotic)
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:31:47 GMT
Djule@rstones.durlan.co.y (djule@rstones.durlan.co.y@rstones.durlan.co.yu) wrote:
: Masina je 486DX4-100, 16 Mb rama, PCI na ploci i 2x1 Gb Maxtor diskovi.
: Na masini normalno radi Njindonjs 95. Pokusali smo da na tu masinu
: instaliramo Linux. Kad su mu oba diska prijavljena u Setup-u pri butovanju
: kernela Linux puca. Zasebno sve normalno radi, tj. mogu da dignem linux sa
: diska koji je odvojen za njega ako je drugi (Win) disk iskljucen. Ako su
: oba diska ukljucena Win opet radi ali linux nece.
: Jel iko ikad imao slican problem i kako ga je resio ?
: Inace probane su maltene sve kombinacije, znaci da je linux disk ili prvi
: ili drugi, da je LILO ili u MBR ili u linuxovom root diru, diskovi su
: stavljani kao LBA i kao normal...
Izvini , ali meni ovde nije i dalje jasno DA LI SI OBA DISKA ISPRAVNO
INSTALIRAO, tj. da li su mu dzamperi Master/Slave ok nastelovani, i da li
oba diska ZAJEDNO prepoznaje BILO KOJI operativni sistem ???
Vukota
unix.1071postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:50:40 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-26-95 03:13 Dragan.Nikolic@p7.f101.n101.z38.setnet.co.yu wrote:
ZP> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
> butovanje je od strane fsck-a dalo krasnu poruku:
> "block bitmap 264275204 for group 0 not in group"
> i od tog trenutka moj drugi disk na kome mi je na dve particije linux, je
> mrtav. Odnosno, samo glavna /dev/hdb1, dok je /dev/hdb7 OK.
Dr> Evo da pokusam da ti pomognem, posto imam jednu veoma dobro
Dr> opremljenu knjigu za Linux(DRX.LINUX sa 1200 strana:-)), pa cu iz nje
Dr> da citiram jedan deo, od kojeg verujem da ce i pomoci.:-)
Dr> filesystem type saves copies of the superblock at "block group"
Dr> boundaries on the drive-usually, every 8K blocks. In order to tell
Dr> e2fsck to use a copy of the superblock, you can use a command such as
Dr> # e2fsck -b 8193 <partition>
Dr> where <partition> is the partition on which the filesystem resides.
Dr> The -b 8193 ption tells e2fsck to use the copy of the superblock stored
Dr> at block 8193 in the filesystem.
Eh da, i to sam pokusao posle svega, ali ni to nece izgleda vise da radi,
posto mi se cini da je ceo superblok deadly dead, zajedno sa samim fs-om i
svim na njemu, tako da cu verovatno morati da radim jedan mke2fs
/dev/hdb7, kao sto vec rekoh...
Nisam imao nista strasno bitno, osim nekih sorsova, ali se nadam da ce se
pojaviti negde nekako ti CD-ovi sa kojih sam ih skidao, a ionako sam vec
stavio novi linux na novi djisk, pa i nije mnogo strasno.
Na kraju, ponovicu svoje administratorske vestine... :)
Anyway, hvala na pomoci, sok moze i 'vako i 'nako. :)
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1077postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 06:16:56 GMT
Igor Loncarevic (anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu) wrote:
-> Dragisa N. Duric (dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU) wrote:
-> : Ma nemam pojma koji je anubisu da davi s tim xpostovima, ja sam prije par
-> : dana naisao na URL, pogledao security raport iz Intela i sve je jasno.
-> : Covjek je crackovao 2-3 passwd fajla, na tudjim resursima, pa se logovao
-> : kroz firewall i tako to...
-> Pa davim jerbo je po newsovima bash bilo frke sa slucajem Randala, mnogo
-> kontraverznih pricica, motiva ... zamalo pa da stvore novi OJ trial.
Ma kakve kontroverze, BrE?! Sve je kao dan jasno, i kad procitas security
report o crackovima i gateu treba bas da mu budes obozavalac pa da ne vidis
da je kriv 101%.
unix.1076postmast,
From: anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: Re: dosemu
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:49:39 GMT
Damjan Janev (damjan.janev@informa.mk) wrote:
: Koja je najnovija verzija dosemu-a? Meni treba neka koja radi sa 1.2.8
: kernelom.
Verzija 60.0.4 je najnovija i radi pod 1.2.8.
: P.S. Dali pod dosemu rade CD-ROM, Sound Blaster i ostale hardveske
: zavrzlame?
Da.
-+-
Igor Loncarevic, anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu
anubis@ho.com
anubis@cview.com
Linux - The choice of GNU generation
unix.1075postmast,
From: anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:48:52 GMT
Dragisa N. Duric (dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU) wrote:
: Ma nemam pojma koji je anubisu da davi s tim xpostovima, ja sam prije par
: dana naisao na URL, pogledao security raport iz Intela i sve je jasno.
: Covjek je crackovao 2-3 passwd fajla, na tudjim resursima, pa se logovao
: kroz firewall i tako to...
Pa davim jerbo je po newsovima bash bilo frke sa slucajem Randala, mnogo
kontraverznih pricica, motiva ... zamalo pa da stvore novi OJ trial.
Inace Randal Schwarc je "guru" sto se tiche Perl-a, i obicno je svaku svoju
poruku po newsovima zavrsavao sa This is just another hack fazonu, tvorac
knjiga: "Camel Book", "The LlamaBook", "Learning Perl" (sve je Perl oriented)
Uglavnom poznata faca :).
-+-
Igor Loncarevic, anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu
anubis@ho.com
anubis@cview.com
Linux - The choice of GNU generation
unix.1073postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:50:51 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-30-95 04:12 Mdave@sezam.uucp wrote:
> BTW2, koristim ovu priliku da Vecxu i Dragishu posebno zamolim za
> pomoc, jer ne znam dvojicu vecih znalaca linuxa.
Md> Ijaooo, ijaooo, njih dvojicu u istoj recenici, pa jos vecxa (
Md> Obrovac-Beograd :)))))))))))) ) prvog... ijaooo....
Ahem, buhm, hum hum hum, malo mi nejasno ovo ovdi.....
Sto, sta fali Vecxi&Dragishi? Kad sam bio malji deca za linux, i Tiho mi je
bio bog za isto, a sad su to Vecxa i Dragisha. Mozda otkrijem jos ponekog,
ko zna? :))
A to sto je Vex prvi na spisku je zato sto mi je on blizi k ruci, tako da
mogu (skoro) uvek da odem na etf i da mu kukam na rame junacko ako mi
nesto krepa od linuxa, a Dragishi, jel'te, ne mogu. Mlogo mi daleko...:)
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1074postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:51:14 GMT
ĐŠč On 10-05-95 18:36 Dpop@sezam.uucp wrote:
Dp> Kako se vidi zadnjih mjeseci je stisala euforija oko DosEmu ali
Dp> u cijeloj gunguli nisam nasao odgovor na meni interesantno
Dp> pitanje: "Kako pristupiti korektno Stacker v.4.0 komprimiranom
Dp> volumenu iz DosEmu ?", ako je to ikako i moguce. A bilo je
Dp> nekih najava od >>POSTMAST-a<< u poruci PC.OS.5:UNIX:17, kako
Dp> se vidi iz dole prilozenog, da je to (mozda) rjeseno. Na
Dp> moje upite nisam dobio odgovor. Ako je neko drugi spreman da
Dp> podijeli svoja dragocjena iskustva po tom pitanju O.K. Thanks !
Pazi stvarno, nisam ni video. Od kako nema Boleta sa mr-sys-a, niko nista
ne pita za dosemu.....
Daklem, ja sam imao dosemu 053p28 na mom linuxu 2.0.1 (kerneli
1.0.9-1.1.95) i stacker 4.0 i radio je super.
Kod mene je situacija bila ovakva:
1. boot je isao sa lilo-m i to sa prve hd particije, tako da sam pri
boot-u birao linux/dos
2. u /etc postoji dosemu.conf koji se podesava u HDD sekciji tako da se
navede da je /dev/hdxx read-write i njen redni broj, tako da nema problema
prilikom mapiranja stackerovim particija pod dosemu-om (sad se ne secam
bas kako ide, nisam u linuxu vec u dos-u, ali mogu da pogledam naknadno)
3. korak pod 2. za svaku particiju koja se logicki vidi iz stekera (znaci
ne stacvol particije sa kompresovanim diskom, vec one koje korisnik vidi -
c:, d:, ...)
Tako to nekako bi, probaj pa vidi. Za svaki slucaj stavi prvo particije na
read-only (bunice ti se steker sto ne moze da prodje autosave ali ce da
radi) pa ako funkcionise onda na rw.
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1070postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:50:35 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-25-95 21:40 Bdm@rainbird.hobbiton.co. wrote:
Bd> ## A sta bih radio sa diskeditom kad on verovatno ni ne bi mogao da
Bd> cita po ## linux particiji? I gde da trazim gresku ako bi i citao?
Bd> DE /M cita kao lud, ovo ti je korisno samo pa krpis ASCII fajlove.
Bd> Sa hobbbitona mozes dl-ovati ext2edit ili tako nesto, znaci DE za
Bd> ext2fs.
Jeste, samo imam malih problema pri tome : ne mogu da dobijem hob nikako...
:-((
Nema veze, skinuo sam sa galeba to cudo, ali on trazi instaliran nekakav
readline da bi se kompajlirao, a ja nemam pojma gde to da nadjem, osim opet
na hob-u. I tako u krug....
Kako god bilo, cini mi se da je meni ceo fs krepa' jerbo sam ja stavio na
novi disk novi linux, i pokusao sa njegovim e2fsck-om da pokrpim stvar, ali
mi se cini da je on samo sredio stvar do kr(j)aja.
So, verovatno ce pasti jedan mke2fs /dev/hdb7. :-\
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1072postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:50:47 GMT
ĐŠč On 09-30-95 07:03 Dragisha@hobbiton.co.yu wrote:
Dr> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
-> BTW, kad sam vec kod novog diska od 516MB, moze li se bez problema pustiti
-> da pod linuxom i kernelom 1.2.9 postoji swap particija od 1024. do 1049.
-> cilindra? Posto je fdisk prijavljivao da mu nesto nije potaman po tom
-> pitanju, zanima me, a verujem i jos koga, mogu li se diskovi sa vise od
-> 1024 cilindara koristiti bez specijalnih muvanja pod linuxom, tj. da ih on
-> automatski vidi i ispravno koristi?
Dr> mdave koristi 850Mb, sa nesto muvanja koje je objasnjeno u knjizici
Dr> koja ide uz InfoMagic, a ja sam sretni korisnik dva diska od 1024+
Dr> cilindara i nemam nikakvih problema. Jedina fora je da, ako se koristi
Dr> lilo, kernel imageovi budu ispod 1024 cilindra, jer oni se citaju preko
Dr> BIOSa. Ako lilo prijavi da to nije slucaj, rjesenje je ponovno
Dr> kopiranje kernel imageta dok se ovaj ne smiluje da ga i snimi ispod
Dr> 1024 cilindra :). To sve detektuje lilo, i kad on prodje, znaci da je
Dr> sve ok, naravno. Meni se kazem desilo jednom, i poslije prvog
Dr> ponovljenog rm/cp sve je bilo ok.
Dr> swap moze ladno da bude iznad 1024 cilindra, on se cita tek kad se
Dr> kernel inicijalizira.
E 'vako. Da bih namestio sebi je li 13MB swap-a iznad 1024. cinlindra, usao
sam u bios i napisao da disk ima 1049/16/63 sto je on 'ladno progutao (a
sto i ne bi :) i onda digao linux sa boot/root diskete. On se naravno
pobunio kad sam startovao fdisk da ima razlicite fizicke i logicke krajeve
za disk, ali je prosao. Onda sam napravio trecu primarnu particiju (prve
dve su dos), krknuo linux type 82 na tako dobijenih 13MB, pri cemu se fdisk
i dalje bunio oko razlike u logickoj/fizickoj velicini i kako bi to boze
moj moglo da negativno utice na neke programe (!), ali je snimio particionu
tabelu kao takvu. Posle toga ja vrnem u bios-u podatke nazad na 1024/16/63
i linux sad radi sa tim i starim swapom bez problema, tj. prilikom
mount-ovanja kaze "adding swap 13xxxx" pa jos jednom za onu drugu particiju
sa drugog diska.
Kernel jeste na particiji koja je ispod 1024. cilindra i sistem se dize bez
frke.
Jedino sto mene sad zanima da li je to sve sigurno, odnosno da li bi na
starijim plocama bez lba i ostalih zezanja ako mogao da se drzi i linux
native, posto ortak koji je probao istu stvar na svojoj 386dx40 ploci koja
je novija od moje, kaze da ga ima nekih problema. Disk nam je isti, quantum
maverick 540M.
BTW, koje je to muvanje koje se pominje u InfoMagic-ovoj knjizici (blago
tebi pa imas CD...ima li sanse da se on dovuce/dobije na jedno kopiranje?)
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1079postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: problem sa particijom
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:01:00 GMT
ĐŠč On 10-09-95 06:25 Dragisha@hobbiton.co.yu wrote:
-> Jedino sto mene sad zanima da li je to sve sigurno, odnosno da li bi na
-> starijim plocama bez lba i ostalih zezanja ako mogao da se drzi i linux
-> native, posto ortak koji je probao istu stvar na svojoj 386dx40 ploci koja
-> je novija od moje, kaze da ga ima nekih problema. Disk nam je isti, quantum
-> maverick 540M.
Dr> Moja ploca je sve samo ne nova. LBA, nikad cula :).
Znaci, sve ce da radi, samo da uamemo veci cekic... ;->
-> BTW, koje je to muvanje koje se pominje u InfoMagic-ovoj knjizici (blago
-> tebi pa imas CD...ima li sanse da se on dovuce/dobije na jedno kopiranje?)
Dr> Uglavnom ne, ima toga dosta i po BG, ali ne mislim d ti je to nesto
Dr> isplatno. Mene su 4CD kostala 40ak DEM ($25+$5), a snimanje samo
Dr> jednog aje valjda toliko. Ima i u Madjarskoj, tamo su ga ljudi
Dr> kupovali.
Ete mene budale, ode mi ortakinja u Madarsku na sajam kompjutera, a ja
zaboravio na to! Bas sam blesan ponekad...
BTW sta ima u Rusiji interesantno od opreme za kompjutere? Neke adrese u
Moskvi, ima li neko? Ide mi mamica uskoro, pa se razmisljam da narucim
kojesta, ako ima gde i za neku normalnu cifru, dovoljno nizu od ovdasnjih.
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1080mikis,
-> #1077, postmast+> Ma kakve kontroverze, BrE?! Sve je kao dan jasno, i kad procitas security
+> report o crackovima i gateu treba bas da mu budes obozavalac pa da ne vidis
+> da je kriv 101%.
Ajd' nek neko okači i te report-ove :)
unix.1081postmast,
From: dusan.djordjevic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Dusan Djordjevic)
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:48:00 CET
X-QWK To: Milos Vukotic
MV> Izvini , ali meni ovde nije i dalje jasno DA LI SI OBA DISKA ISPRAVNO
MV> INSTALIRAO, tj. da li su mu dzamperi Master/Slave ok nastelovani, i da
MV> l i
MV> oba diska ZAJEDNO prepoznaje BILO KOJI operativni sistem ???
Pa dobro, ja sam mozda sisao vesla al camac nisam progutao. Win 95 radi
normalno sa oba diska, poenta je u tome sto linux kernel puca pri butovanju
kad su oba diska prijavljena u setup-u.
dule@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu ; djule@rstones.durlan.co.yu
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.20 [NR]
* Origin: Rolling Stones * Yugoslavia * (2:382/105.5)
unix.1082spantic,
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unix.1083postmast,
From: arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu (Bogdan Kecman)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 08:45:43 GMT
Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
: svim na njemu, tako da cu verovatno morati da radim jedan mke2fs
: /dev/hdb7, kao sto vec rekoh...
Elem, jedna mozda interesantna opaska...
Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos neki)
prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo redje,
nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
elem, stvar radi ok kada se stavi kernel koji podrzava VLB disk
kontroler, odnosno instalira drajver dobijen uz karticu kada se radi
pod DOS-om.
Stvar je primecena ovde u Sigrafu (na 3 masine), u beogradu na 11 makina
u nisu na 2 makine ( to koliko ja znam) svuda je bio VLB disk kontroler
i svuda je sve radilo kako treba posle zamene istog. (ovde ne vazi
ono pravilo sto bolji i skuplji kontroler manja je sansa da se desi
greska)
Arhimed.CoRRoSioN.
ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
unix.1084postmast,
From: andrea@fon (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 15:50:10 GMT
ĐŠč On 10-20-95 08:45 Arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac wrote:
Ar> Andrea Prunic (andrea@fon) wrote:
Ar> : svim na njemu, tako da cu verovatno morati da radim jedan mke2fs
Ar> : /dev/hdb7, kao sto vec rekoh...
Ar> Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos
Ar> neki) prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo
Ar> redje, nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
Ar> elem, stvar radi ok kada se stavi kernel koji podrzava VLB disk
Ar> kontroler, odnosno instalira drajver dobijen uz karticu kada se radi
Ar> pod DOS-om.
Hm, sad, ja nemam trenutno vlb plocu, jer imam 386dx40, ali imam nameru da
predjem na 486 vlb, pa me zanima na sta tacnomislis, sto se tice kernela
za linux, a sredjuje stvar za vlb-om?
Za dos bih ionako koristio drajver.
Ar> ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
Ar> za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
Pa napisi makar malo, da se bar nesto rezimirano zna...
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1085ddobic,
-> #1084, postmast> Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos
> neki) prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo
> redje, nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
> ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
> za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
Veoma me zanima. Kako se sr**e manifestuje? Ja imam cetiri racunara sa
VLB IDE kontrolerima na kojima radi XENIX 386. Na jednom od njih mi je
do sada dva puta dolazilo do cudnog gubitka podataka. Pobrise mi 20-tak
kilobajta pri kraju velike datoteke (2 MB).
unix.1086lemi,
Koristim SCO UNIX r3.2 v4.2.. Zelim da pokrenem PPP izmedju dva racunara
preko dva direktno spojena modema. Modeme sam uspio spojiti. Na oba racunara
sam instalirao PPP pomocu netconfig-a. Potom sam sarao po datotekama Devices
i Systems ali nista pametno nisam nasarao, jer ping (tj. veza) nije proradio.
Znali neko neko rjesenje. Unaprijed hvala.:wq
unix.1087postmast,
From: Nikola.Vukelic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu (Nikola Vukelic)
Subject: Unix
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:40:00
Ljudi, ima li neko uputstvo za UNIX? Interesuju me samo osnovne
stvari. Ortak je nabavio neku uzas literaturu sa nekih 1500 strana
ukupno, sto ne bih voleo da moram da procitam. Znaci, neki uvod u
UNIX, jos ako je TXT fajl, ih meraka. ;)
pozdrav, Nidza
(nidza.fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
... Kisa pada moja mala place, ja sam tuzan da jebe oca! (C)
* Origin: Pingvin BBS, Beograd == 674-262 & 606-928 == SETNet: (38:103/140)
unix.1088postmast,
From: arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu (Bogdan Kecman)
Subject: Re: Unix
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 05:49:21 GMT
Nikola Vukelic (Nikola.Vukelic%f140.n103.z38@setnet.setnet.co.yu) wrote:
: Ljudi, ima li neko uputstvo za UNIX? Interesuju me samo osnovne
: stvari. Ortak je nabavio neku uzas literaturu sa nekih 1500 strana
: ukupno, sto ne bih voleo da moram da procitam. Znaci, neki uvod u
: UNIX, jos ako je TXT fajl, ih meraka. ;)
Imam je nesto:
begunix (unix za pocetnike)
interunix (unix za srednje korisnike)
i nesto slicno za bash programere.
Arhimed.CoRRoSioN.
unix.1089postmast,
From: dragisha@hobbiton.CO.YU (Dragisa N. Duric)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:33:52 GMT
Dragoslav Dobic (ddobic@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
-> > Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos
-> > neki) prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo
-> > redje, nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
-> > ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
-> > za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
-> Veoma me zanima. Kako se sr**e manifestuje? Ja imam cetiri racunara sa
-> VLB IDE kontrolerima na kojima radi XENIX 386. Na jednom od njih mi je
-> do sada dva puta dolazilo do cudnog gubitka podataka. Pobrise mi 20-tak
-> kilobajta pri kraju velike datoteke (2 MB).
Za puno objasnjenje treba procitati i "PCI unistava diskove", a nije zgoreg
staviti i prst na celo i zamisliti sta bi bilo kad bi bilo, tj. gdje bi
Linux bio kada bi na toliko procentu kontrolera gubio podatke.
unix.1090postmast,
From: dusan.djordjevic@rstones.durlan.co.yu (Dusan Djordjevic)
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:58:00 CET
X-QWK To: Srdjan Janev
SJ> Na osnovu toga zakljucujem da su diskovi lose podeseni (dzamperisani),
SJ> j er
SJ> prosta analiza partisn i but rekorda kazu da se Njin '95 ponasa isto
SJ> kao i
SJ> DOS-ovi izasli pre njega.
SJ> Eventualni problem na diskovima od 1 Gb moze biti da je LINUX but
SJ> partic ija
SJ> iznad 1023-eg cilindra.
Zipa ovako, mozda su diskovi lose podeseni u sta ne verujem jer sa NJIN 95
normalno rade. Problem je u tome sto kad se sa diskete butuje kernel on
stane.
...dule@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu ; djule@rstones.durlan.co.yu
... Svako uspesan ima padove, ali svaki pad ne znaci uspeh.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.20 [NR]
* Origin: Rolling Stones * Yugoslavia * (2:382/105.5)
unix.1091postmast,
From: arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu (Bogdan Kecman)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 06:21:05 GMT
Dragoslav Dobic (ddobic@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
: > Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos
: > neki) prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo
: > redje, nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
: > ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
: > za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
: Veoma me zanima. Kako se sr**e manifestuje? Ja imam cetiri racunara sa
: VLB IDE kontrolerima na kojima radi XENIX 386. Na jednom od njih mi je
: do sada dva puta dolazilo do cudnog gubitka podataka. Pobrise mi 20-tak
: kilobajta pri kraju velike datoteke (2 MB).
Nisam to primetio na XENIX-u. Cak stavise on je radio bez problema
na VLB kontroleru. Probaj da predjes na nesto bolje ako te on zeza,
ne vidim razloga zasto na 486 makini drzati XENIX..
Arhi/c
unix.1092postmast,
From: panzer@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Mijuskovic Veselin)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 07:54:06 GMT
Milenko Milanovic (lemi@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
: Koristim SCO UNIX r3.2 v4.2.. Zelim da pokrenem PPP izmedju dva racunara
: preko dva direktno spojena modema. Modeme sam uspio spojiti. Na oba racunara
: sam instalirao PPP pomocu netconfig-a. Potom sam sarao po datotekama Devices
: i Systems ali nista pametno nisam nasarao, jer ping (tj. veza) nije proradio.
: Znali neko neko rjesenje. Unaprijed hvala.:wq
Prvo proveri da li UUCP radi kako treba, tj. sa cu _ime_remote_hosta_
treba da dobijes login prompt na udaljenoj masini. Ako to radi bez
problema, greska je u ppp instaliranju. ppp IP adrese treba da cine
zasebnu podmrezu (subnet). Ne zaboravi da u /usr/lib/uucp/Systems fajlu
kreiras zasebnu stavku za ppp vezu, kako bi se ppp daemon mogao
automatski ulogovati na ppp nalog na udaljenoj masini (podrazumeva se
da postoji kreiran nalog za ppp). Proveri /etc/ppphosts fajl, a takodje
i pppauth ako koristis PAP autetifikaciju. Kako treba da izgledaju ovi
fajlovi pogledaj u man-u (man SFF ppphosts pppauth). Ako sve izgleda OK
probaj telnet pre ping-a. Kada sam ja instalirao ppp vezu preko
komutirane linije, ping nije hteo da radi iz prve; tek kada sam
uspostavio prvu telnet vezu, ping je proradio (;^).
--
Panzer
In real life : Mijuskovic Veselin Internet : panzer@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
/Meeyoushkowitch Veselyn/ DECnet : UBBG::EMIJUSKO
unix.1093postmast,
From: verovski@fon ()
Subject: LINUX: problemi sa inn-om
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:58:42 GMT
Imam problema sa inn-om. Posto sam uspeo da ga instaliram i nateram ga da
radi, od prvog dana je poceo da mi salje mail kako nema news.daily fajla,
koji je dakako sve vreme na svom mestu.
Kako sam zeleo da mi sredjuje .overview fajlove dodao sam u newsfeeds:
overview:*:Tc:WO:/usr/lib/news/bin/overchan
Sada mi javlja i gresku da nema toga fajla, koji je naravno na svom mestu.
Inn je instaliran sa SLackware distribucije.
unix.1094postmast,
From: anubis@ELF.bl.ac.yu (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: Re: LINUX: problemi sa inn-om
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 02:48:02 GMT
verovski@fon wrote:
: Imam problema sa inn-om. Posto sam uspeo da ga instaliram i nateram ga da
: radi, od prvog dana je poceo da mi salje mail kako nema news.daily fajla,
: koji je dakako sve vreme na svom mestu.
: Kako sam zeleo da mi sredjuje .overview fajlove dodao sam u newsfeeds:
: overview:*:Tc:WO:/usr/lib/news/bin/overchan
: Sada mi javlja i gresku da nema toga fajla, koji je naravno na svom mestu.
: Inn je instaliran sa SLackware distribucije.
Khm... bas sam sinoc procitao solution u c.o.l.s., znam da je nesto
trivijalno, hm.. mislim da treba obrisati news.daily fajl iz INN dira.
Ajde pa javi.
--
-+-
Igor Loncarevic, anubis@elf.bl.ac.yu
anubis@ho.com
anubis@cview.com http://www.sin.com/people/anubis
Linux - The choice of GNU generation
unix.1097postmast,
From: anubis@hobbiton.CO.YU (Igor Loncarevic)
Subject: I saw Linus on CNN!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 18:38:36 GMT
[ Article crossposted from ho.linux.kernel ]
[ Author was Breakdown ]
[ Posted on Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:24:41 GMT ]
Linus was on CNN just an hour ago! :-) They were talking about Linux, the
choice of the GNU generation, flashed a few pics of Bill Gates too, and we
had Linus tell Billy Boy that he plans on graduating out of college,
unlike the richest college dropout, who did not :-P. Linus looked pretty
cool too in front of his 21" or so, monitor clicking upon X-Windows menus
... Well, just letting you all know I saw him while you were all dead
asleep :-).
Martin
--
-+-
Igor Loncarevic, anubis@ho.com
http://www.sin.com/people/anubis
Linux - The choice of GNU generation
unix.1095postmast,
From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 14:36:47 GMT
Ar> Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos
Ar> neki) prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo
Ar> redje, nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
Ar> ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
Ar> za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
Kako stoje stvari sa PCI kontrolerima? Za sada sam na VLB-u, ali
uskoro (definitivno) prelazim na PCI.
pozdrav, Nidza
(nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
... Hitno potrebna LEPA DEVOJKA radi sexa.
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1096postmast,
From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic)
Subject: Re: Unix
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 14:36:51 GMT
Ar> Imam je nesto:
Ar> begunix (unix za pocetnike)
Ar> interunix (unix za srednje korisnike)
Ar> i nesto slicno za bash programere.
Bilo bi korisno. Kako da dodjem do toga? Nemoj samo uuencodovano,
jedan tip je pokusao da mi posalje uuencodovanu unix.arj datoteku, pa
uudekoder nije hteo ni da mrdne. Kako da dodjem do toga?
pozdrav, Nidza
(nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1098banga,
-> #1096, postmast> From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic)
> Subject: Re: Unix
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 14:36:51 GMT
> Bilo bi korisno. Kako da dodjem do toga? Nemoj samo
> uuencodovano, jedan tip je pokusao da mi posalje uuencodovanu
^^^ ^^^^^^^ tjuj pokus'o, posl'o bolan :)
> unix.arj datoteku, pa uudekoder nije hteo ni da mrdne. Kako da
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ipak ce biti da
ti nisi umeo to da uradis
Danas sam ti poslao unix.txt PRE nego sto sam ovo porocitao. Nadam se da
ces umeti da to procitas :)
unix.1099eotek,
Microsoft Internet Assistant (HTML 4 Winword 6),
program koji je shareware - trazi se. Ako nista drugo
zna li neko barem kako se zove arhiva.
Inace, ovaj "editor", prema pisanju stampe
smatra se "the best" ...
unix.1100spantic,
-> #1099, eotek> Inace, ovaj "editor", prema pisanju stampe
> smatra se "the best" ...
Bolji je po nekima Quartekov ili kako je već ime
firme WWW asistent, ali slabo nešto rade pod
Word 7na Windows 95.
unix.1101postmast,
From: alf@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dejan Jakovljevic)
Subject: Re: I saw Linus on CNN!
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 19:16:55 GMT
What a hell is Linus ???
D.
unix.1102eotek,
-> #1100, spantic
re: Microsoft Internet Assistant v.2.0 (HTML za Winword 6),
(http://microsoft.com ??) - TRAZI SE I DALJE
> Bolji je po nekima Quartekov ili kako je vec ime
ama jel ti to imas oba, pa mi pravis zazubice ili ??
javni barem kako se zove arhiva onog prvog (shareware)
[ ... not only ware, perhaps knowledge too ...]
unix.1103spantic,
-> #1102, eotek> re: Microsoft Internet Assistant v.2.0 (HTML za Winword 6),
> (http://microsoft.com ??) - TRAZI SE I DALJE
Ja imam verziju jedan. Dva na žalost ni ja nisam video.
Onaj drugi imam.
unix.1104spantic,
-> #1101, postmast> From: alf@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dejan Jakovljevic)
> What a hell is Linus ???
I ti mi koristiš Linux? ;)
To je žovek koji je stvorio Linux, i koji u stvari koordinira
posao sa kernelima i danas.
unix.1105postmast,
From: arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu (Bogdan Kecman)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:38:54 GMT
Nikola Vukelic (nidza@fon) wrote:
: Ar> Primetio sam da neki kontroleri (VLB IDE, i VLB EIDE, winbound i jos
: Ar> neki) prave sr**e pod linux-om, a oce to isto i pos SCO-tom samo malo
: Ar> redje, nekad brljaju i pod 3ds-om,
: Ar> ps. Postoji nekoliko teorija zasto se ovo desava, ali mislim da nisu
: Ar> za konferenciju, ako nekoga zanima, nek pita...
: Kako stoje stvari sa PCI kontrolerima? Za sada sam na VLB-u, ali
: uskoro (definitivno) prelazim na PCI.
Za sada nije prijavljen ni jedan pad diska na PCI kontroleru a da je
tome bio kriv doticni kontroler tako da je PCI za sada stabilan, sto se
tice PADANJA pri radu sa 32-bitnim sofverom...
arhimed
unix.1106postmast,
From: arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu (Bogdan Kecman)
Subject: Re: Unix
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:41:22 GMT
Nikola Vukelic (nidza@fon) wrote:
: Bilo bi korisno. Kako da dodjem do toga? Nemoj samo uuencodovano,
: (nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
:
Vrlo jednostavno. Probaj da me talkujes na arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu
svakim radnim danom pre podne, ili cu ja to da ftputnem na osmeh ili
na fon pa ga skini odande...
Arhimed.CoRRoSioN.
unix.1107postmast,
From: arhimed@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Bogdan Kecman)
Subject: Re: Unix
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:36:40 GMT
Nikola Vukelic (nidza@fon) wrote:
: Ar> Imam je nesto:
:
: Ar> begunix (unix za pocetnike)
: Ar> interunix (unix za srednje korisnike)
:
: Ar> i nesto slicno za bash programere.
:
: Bilo bi korisno. Kako da dodjem do toga? Nemoj samo uuencodovano,
: jedan tip je pokusao da mi posalje uuencodovanu unix.arj datoteku, pa
: uudekoder nije hteo ni da mrdne. Kako da dodjem do toga?
:
: pozdrav, Nidza
: (nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
fajl se nalazi u ~arhimed direktorijumu na osmehu. zove se unixtxt.zip
tu se nalaze *.txt fajlovi koji su ti potrebni. zip je dugacak
260K
--->-rw------- 1 arhimed users 258738 Oct 30 11:31 unixtxt.zip
na osmehu su privilegije stavljena tako da svi mogu da skinu ovi fajl.
Arhimed.CoRRoSioN.
unix.1108postmast,
From: alf@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dejan Jakovljevic)
Subject: Re: I saw Linus on CNN!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 12:41:23 GMT
Dejan Jakovljevic (alf@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu) wrote:
: What a hell is Linus ???
:
Of Course - Linux creator, how stupid I was :))
unix.1109postmast,
From: dcolak@setnet.co.yu (Damir Colak)
Subject: OS/2 Not Working on P100
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 16:57:04
This message was from DAMIR COLAK to IGOR VASILJEVIC,
originally in conference Net.Os/2
and was forwarded to you by DAMIR COLAK.
-------------------------
IV> Posle ovih par sitnih stvarcica probaj kako radi bbs :), naravno ima
IV> jos par caka u vezi BAT fajla.
Ne vredi, meni DOS pod OS/2 jednostavno ne radi. Ma sta pokusao.
Puca apsolutno svaki put, uz sledecu poruku (nisam sve prepisao):
TRAP 0002 ERRCD=0000 ERACCC=xxxx ERLIM=xxxxxxxx
blah blah (sadrzaj registara)
##0160:FFF5C34C-000D:A34C
60000, 9084
048600b4
Internal Revision 8.162, 94/09/19
Nakon cega je sistem apsolutno mrtav i pomaze samo hard reset.
Menjao sam video karticu (PCI-S3-868 i ISA Trident 8900c), menjao
sam plocu (AMIWIN BIOS, SIS), menjao sam brzinu cipa (75, 90,
100Mhz), vadio sam sve sto postoji u masini sem video/hdcontroler i
nista nije pomoglo!
Jedino na sta mi je ostalo da sumnjam je IDE kontroler koji je
trenutno ISA verzija. Ako ni to ne upali definitivno OS/2 nije
napravljen za Pentium racunare :(
Masina je Pentium-S na 100Mhz, 16Mb memorije.
Sledge DAMMIR!
of OS/2 Team
* Origin: Sledge HAMMER! BBS 011/163-452 22:00-07:00 (38:103/128)
unix.1110postmast,
From: vecxo@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu (Dragan D. Vecerina)
Subject: Re: unix
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 06:41:41 GMT
Srdan Pantic (spantic@sezam.UUCP) wrote:
:
: To je Covek koji je stvorio Linux, i koji u stvari koordinira
: posao sa kernelima i danas.
Pa nije bas samo da koordinira. Ima tu jos mnogo drugih stvari:))
Dragan D. Vecerina
E-mail adresa: vecxo@etf.bg.ac.yu
unix.1111postmast,
From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:21:57 GMT
...Quoting Arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac
Ar> tome bio kriv doticni kontroler tako da je PCI za sada stabilan, sto
Ar> se tice PADANJA pri radu sa 32-bitnim sofverom...
... ?
pozdrav, Nidza
(nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
... Kisa pada moja mala place, ja sam tuzan da jebe oca! (C)
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1112postmast,
From: nidza@fon (Nikola Vukelic)
Subject: Re: Unix
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:22:01 GMT
Ar> Vrlo jednostavno. Probaj da me talkujes na
Ar> arhimed@lucid.junis.ni.ac.yu svakim radnim danom pre podne, ili cu ja
Probacu, hm?! Nikad to nisam probao na vecoj udaljenosti od FON-a.
Ar> to da ftputnem na osmeh ili na fon pa ga skini odande...
Ako ne uspemo ono prvo. OK. Thanx.
pozdrav, Nidza
(nidza@fon.fon.bg.ac.yu)
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
unix.1113ppekovic,
-> #1102, eotek>> re: Microsoft Internet Assistant v.2.0 (HTML za Winword 6),
>> (http://microsoft.com ??) - TRAZI SE I DALJE
Ima preko 1M. Preveliki je za skidanje.
Paya
unix.1114postmast,
From: bole@bolex.bolex.co.yu (Bosko Radivojevic)
Subject: mail -u
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:07:27 GMT
Hi!
Dakle, kod mene (slackware 2.1.0) ne radi mail -u user... Pre je lepo
radilo sada samo kaze "No mail for _user_" i to je to.. mada provereno ima
maila... U cemu je problem?
Pozdrav ...
unix.1115postmast,
From: glisin@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Ivan Glisin)
Subject: Re: I saw Linus on CNN!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:03:21 GMT
Dejan Jakovljevic pise:
>> What a hell is Linus ???
Ozbiljno?
Ma daj, ne zezaj se!
unix.1116postmast,
From: glisin@orao.etf.bg.ac.yu (Ivan Glisin)
Subject: Speed Test
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:23:48 GMT
Hi 2 all UNIX Wizards!
Napravio sam jedan programcic za testiranje brzine CPU i FPU na
raznim UNIX masinama. Kratko, pisan je na C-u, radi se o petljama
koje su napravljene tako da postoji zavisnost po podacima tako da
optimizator ne moze da redukuje petlju ili da je zameni dodelom.
CPU testira siftovanja i bit-logicke operatore a FPU test radi
sin, ln, sqrt. Trebalo bi da popravim FPU test, prebrzo se izvrsava,
mada su merenja ok, probao sam da proverim greske. Evo rezultata:
CPU FPU MODEL INTERNET
---- ---- -------------------------------- ------------------------
4.2 0.9 Silicon Graphics INDY indy.etf.bg.ac.yu
9.4 0.8 Silicon Graphics Power Challenge afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu
24.3 5.0 PC 406DX2-66 fon.fon.bg.ac.yu
30.0 4.0 DECstation 5000/120 orao.etf.bg.ac.yu
38.1 9.0 HP 9000/835 buefhp.etf.bg.ac.yu
42.6 8.0 Sun Microsystems SPARCstation 1+ osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu
Napomena: sva vremena su u sekundama - sto manje to bolje.
unix.1117postmast,
From: andrea@kiza.fon.bg.ac.yu (Andrea Prunic)
Subject: Re: Ventilator
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:09:08 GMT
ĐŠč On 10-23-95 08:51 Vinko@impex.durlan.co.yu wrote:
Vi> Da li postoji nesto, neki indikator, alarm ili sl. sto bi upozorilo da
Vi> je ventilator na procesoru stao?
Vi> Da li bi neki elektronicar mogao da osmisli & napravi takav dodatak
Vi> ventilatoru ukoliko ne postoji neko gotovo resenje?
Moze, na razne nacine. Jedan bi bio da se kontrolise struja koja protice
kroz ventilator, pa ako on stane, da se onda automatski signalizira.
U slucaju da nestane napona na ventilatoru, on nece vuci struju, pa je
resenje da se serijski na njega stavi jedan mali otpor na kome se meri
napon. U slucaju da zaglavi, povuci ce veliku struju u kratkom periodu dok
se njegova interna blokada ne javi (mislim da je to tako) pa je opet isto
resenje, samo sto tada treba biti spreman na vecu brzinu reagovanja. U
svakom slucaju, serijski otpor i naponski komparator resavaju stvar.
Cena - 10-ak DM i manje.
Druga varijanta je nekakav opticki ili magnetni fazon a la kontrola brzine
kod svih disk motora (flopi, HD, video....) tako da se na osovinu cooljera
stavi mali magnetic a da prolazi pored nekog magnetnog tranzistora
(kompletna elektronika moze da se zvadi iz starog flopija, videa...) i da
daje impulse koji oznacavaju da se ventilator vrti, s time da bi se cak na
taj nacin mogla kontrolisati/regulisati brzina okretanja ventilatora,
menjanjem napona napajanja u zavisnosti od broja impulsa itditditd....
Cena - opet oko 10-ak dM, i manje.
U svakom slucaju, moze da se resi problem, i to vrlo lako. Licno mi se vise
svidja drugo resenje, mada, svako po volji. Naravno, signalizacija moze da
bude resena na mnoge nacine, zavisno od toga sta je zgodno.
Ako ti treba neka razrada ideje, javi, poslacu neku semicu.
... Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up.
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unix.1118postmast,
From: miroslav@yucca.co.yu (Miroslav Hristodulo)
Subject: Re: LINUX: problemi sa inn-om
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:29:17 GMT
verovski@fon :
>> Imam problema sa inn-om. Posto sam uspeo da ga instaliram i nateram ga da
>> radi, od prvog dana je poceo da mi salje mail kako nema news.daily fajla,
>> koji je dakako sve vreme na svom mestu.
Fora je mislim u tome da pre prvog startovanja rc.news (tj.
innd) mora da se startuje news.daily rucno iz shella. To
pise u nekom od FAQova za INN.
Otprilike. Davno sam se bavio INN-om, pa zaboravih...
--
Miroslav R. Hristodulo
<miroslav@yucca.co.yu>
unix.1119ikordic,
-> #1116, postmastRE: *X benchmarq
=> sin, ln, sqrt. Trebalo bi da popravim FPU test, prebrzo se izvrsava,
=> mada su merenja ok, probao sam da proverim greske. Evo rezultata:
Ovaj, a kako su maqine testirane? Ti si bio jedini ulogovan ili si bio jedan
od nekoliko njih?