mreze.205miroslavn,
Može li, i ako može, kako da podesim da WIN95 bude server,
tj. sa drugog računara bi se pristupalo njegovom disku, ali
i istovremeno da može na njemu da se radi.
(Win95 radi na 486/120, 16MB, 1.7GB)
Drugi računar je jedna obična 386/40 i 4MB memorije koji
bi radio isključivo u DOS-u (trenutno je stavljen NovellDos 7).
Oba računara imaju ugrađene mrežne karte, ne2000 kompatibilne.
Ostalih računara u mreži nema, tj. samo ova 2 računara čine mrežu.
mreze.206nenad,
-> #205, miroslavn> Ostalih računara u mreži nema, tj. samo ova 2 računara čine mrežu.
Ovo pitanje si već bio postavio pre neki dan i ja sam ti ukratko
odgovorio, pogledaj poruku PCHARD.6:mreze.144.
mreze.207sljubisic,
-> #205, miroslavn
>Moze li, i ako moze, kako da podesim da WIN95 bude server,
>tj. sa drugog racunara bi se pristupalo njegovom disku, ali
>i istovremeno da moze na njemu da se radi.
>(Win95 radi na 486/120, 16MB, 1.7GB)
>Drugi racunar je jedna obicna 386/40 i 4MB memorije koji
>bi radio iskljucivo u DOS-u (trenutno je stavljen NovellDos 7).
>Oba racunara imaju ugradene mrezne karte, ne2000 kompatibilne.
Mislim da ti je Nenad vec odgovorio, ali evo jos jednom:
Win95 masina moze da bude 'server', ali pre nego sto krenes u jedno
takvo povezivanje, moras da vidis na kom protokolu ce da radi jedna
takva mreza.
Kako se radi o samo dva racunara, logicno i najednostavnije je da
izaberes NetBEUI protokol koga imas u Win95 (Control Panel/Network/Add_
protocol, ako ti vec nije po defaultu instaliran kada si instalirao
mreznu karticu)
Isti protokol podrzava i Windows 3.11 for Workgroups, ciju naredbu NET mozes
koristiti iz i komandnog rezima, dakle bez ulaska u Windows.
Dakle ili:
- instaliraj kompletne WfW ako ih nemas instalirane
- doinstaliraj mreznu podrsku (Main/Network) ako je do sada nisi koristio
sto ce ti doinstalirati sve potrebne softverske komponente.
Dakle, preporucujem ti da skines NovellDOS 7 i da se vratis na obican MS DOS
jer ti u ovom slucaju nije potreban.
mreze.208calex,
Nekoliko novih fajlova.
dos\net\*.*
------------------
410pt3.zip 341k ű NetWare 4.10 latest OS Patches
41filr.zip 364k ű Filer.zip v4.21 (950331) PTF for NetWare v4.x
41ndir.zip 172k ű NetWare v4.x NDIR for large drives
cdup3.zip 138k ű Latest Novell CDROM.NLM & support files (IDE CDROMs)
landr6.zip 151k ű Latest Novell LAN drivers and support modules.
libup8.zip 623k ű CLIB Server Library Update for NetWare 3.1x & 4.10
log412.zip 166k ű NetWare v4.1 LOGIN.EXE fixes
map412.zip 143k ű NetWare v4.1 Map root search drives
Više o njima u prethodnim porukama.
mreze.209mikis,
smsup5.exe: 572150 bytes
smsup5.exe -- 6-4-96/21:00p
This download file includes the current SMS files for NetWare
3.11, 3.11 SFT III, 3.12, and 4.XX. These SMS files are
compatible with SBACKUP and associated modules currently
available in SBACK5.EXE (or later) on compuserve. If you are
updating SMS files for use with NetWare Navigator 3.0, please
also read the SMSNAV.DOC file which gives specific instructions
for this type of update.
smsup5.zipmreze.211mikis,
vlmup4.exe -- Updated VLMs (1.20B) and ODI drivers
Contains updated DOS client files. This file includes the v1.20B
NetWare DOS Requester (VLMs), NetBIOS, DOS client files, and MLID
drivers. This is an update to the NetWare Client for DOS/MS
Windows that ships with NetWare v3.12 and v4.x, or is purchased
separately. The entire client kit can be downloaded - including
these updates - from NWOSFiles\NW Client DOS\WIN\vlmktx (x ranges
from 1 to 6).
vlmup4.zipmreze.212inforts,
Da li može neko da skine Novell-ovu arhivu za backup.
Gledajuci dokumentaciju iz SMSUP5.EXE 'ini mi se da su pominjali
verziju SBACK5.EXE. Pozdrav Dragan.
mreze.213mikis,
Dva korisna jutilitija za Novell Netware:
REGMEM.EXE - izračunava parametre koje je potrebno zadati komandi REGISTER
MEMORY
SMEM.EXE - Izračunava količinu memorije potrebne za Netware server
Skinuto sa http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/maru-williamson,
gde možete naći dosta korisnih saveta, pomoćnih programa i linkova u vezi sa
Novell Netware-om.
nwutils.zipmreze.214space.ace,
Imam malu mrežu LANtastic 6.0, i vezana su dva računara. U chat podsistemu
postoji opcija Voice Chat, da se umesto kucanja priča sa sagovornikom preko
mreže, međutim, da bi se to postiglo, u HELP-u piše da su potrebne Artisoft
Sounding Boards, i to na oba računara, plus Sounding Board Windows drajveri
za te kartice. Naravno, računari u mojoj mreži nemaju te kartice (a kamoli
te drajvere), već imaju po Sound Blaster 16 ASP.
Pitanje je, da li je nekako moguće koristiti ove kartice za Voice Chat na
LANtastic-u (možda ako se nabavi taj drajver?) ? Koji još mrežni sistemi
podržavaju Voice Chat, i da li uopšte podržavaju SB kartice (trebalo bi)?
Ovo mi je vrlo hitno, jer nam je dosadno da kucamo, a i bilo bi lepše kad
bi ko ljudi pričali (chat-ovali :). Pošto se odlučujemo i za mrežne o.s.-ove,
da li NT podržava Voice Chat, ili ipak da sačekamo Merlin-a ?
mreze.215zmdjokic,
-> #213, mikis> REGMEM.EXE - izračunava parametre koje je potrebno zadati komandi REGISTER
mreze.216nenad,
-> #214, space.ace> Ovo mi je vrlo hitno, jer nam je dosadno da kucamo, a i bilo bi lepše kad
> bi ko ljudi pričali (chat-ovali :). Pošto se odlučujemo i za mrežne
> o.s.-ove, da li NT podržava Voice Chat, ili ipak da sačekamo Merlin-a ?
Voice Chat najčešće nema mnogo veze sa izabranim NOS-om već pre
svega sa klijentima. Merlin će imati to što ti treba iz prostog
razloga što je već i stari OS/2 imao to - u Bonus Packu se
dobijao Person 2 Person, softver za video konferensing (znači sa
sve slikama, naravno uz odgovarajući hardver). Koliko se sećam,
nije bilo bitno preko kog NOS-a ide.
mreze.217mikis,
WinGate 1.3.11
(http://www.student.wau.nl/tucows/files/wg1311.zip)
* Version Number: 1.3.11
* Revision Date: May 9, 1996
* File Name: wg1311.zip
* Byte Size: 251,075
* License: Shareware
* HomePage: http://nz.com/NZ/Commerce/creative-cgi/special/qbik/wingate.htm
* Description: WinGate allows you to connect many LAN users to the
Internet over a single dial-up link. You can run your favourite WWW
Browsers, email, news, FTP, Telnet, and more, without the expense of
setting up routers, or installing and running additional phone lines.
wg1311.zipmreze.218biber,
-> #214, space.ace>> LANtastic-u (mozda ako se nabavi taj drajver?) ? Koji jos mrezni sistemi
>> podrzavaju Voice Chat, i da li uopste podrzavaju SB kartice (trebalo bi)?
Na www.creatif.com imas drajvere. Sad se ne secam za koji OS.
mreze.219sdjole,
-> #218, biber>>> podrzavaju Voice Chat, i da li uopste podrzavaju SB kartice (trebalo bi)?
>
> Na www.creatif.com imas drajvere. Sad se ne secam za koji OS.
Sta sve traba imati od servisa na NT mrezi da bi voice chat
radio na njoj (podrazumeva se postojanje hardvera u vidu SB Pro
kompatibilnih kartica :))?
mreze.220nenad,
Microsoft i CreativeLabs će sarađivati u razvoju MS-ovog mrežnog
konferencijskog sistema NetMeeting, a direktna posledica saradnje
biće dodata mogućnost video-konferensinga. NetMeeteng će, inače,
podržavati dvosmernu i višesmernu komunikaciju po standardu
T.120, biće tesno integrisan sa MS Explorerom, a moći će da radi
preko modemske veze, IPX-a i TCP/IP protokola. Beta verzija za
Windows 95 može već da se skine sa MS-ovog site-a, a konačna
verzija programa će biti besplatna.
mreze.221nenad,
Nova verzija Novell NetWare-a ima radno ime Moab i najavljena je
za kraj sledeće godine. Prema izjavama iz Novell-a nije u pitanju
samo kozmetička promena već radikalna izmena mrežnog operativnog
sistema.
Biće ugrađena potpuna podrška za javu, a u javi će biti
moguće pisati i programe koji će se izvršavati na serveru. Java
će imati i podršku za grafiku, tako da se administranje na
serveru neće više morati raditi u tekst režimu. Novosti su NDPS
(Novell Distributed Print Services), Plug'n'Play, kao i NWAdmin
koji bi trebalo da centralizuje upravljanje resursima mreže,
uključujući i ISV proizvode kao što su Lotus Notes ili baze poput
Btrieve-a.
Novell Moab će naslediti verziju NetWare-a pod radnim imenom
Green River koja bi trebala da ugleda svetlost dana ove jeseni i
koja će takođe ponuditi podršku za javu, ali ona neće biti toliko
temeljito integrisana sa samim NOS-om koliko bi trebalo da bude u
Moab-u.
mreze.222nenad,
IBM je izbacio novu reviziju svog OS/2 Warp Servera, ovog puta za
multiprocesorske mašine. Do kraja godine IBM je obećao DSS
(Directory and Security Services) kao odgovor na Novell-ov NDS,
kao i mogućnost klasteringa.
Warp Server beleži uspeh na tržištu, par meseci nakon izlaska već
je bilo prodato preko 50.000 primeraka, a nedavno istraživanje o
tome koji sledeći NOS se planira za kupovinu je pokazao da je 30%
mušterija zainteresovano za Warp Server, 24% za Windows NT, a 16%
za NetWare. Serveri zasnovani na OS/2 i dalje imaju drugu po
veličini preinstaliranu bazu, iza Novell NetWare-a.
Osnovna prednost Warp Servera u odnosu na konkurenicju je da se u
osnovnom paketu dobija gotovo sve što može biti potrebno za
administriranje i održavanje mreže, od bekap softvera,
remote-access-a, preko Domain Nameing servisa, DHCP-a,
bidirekcione komunikacije sa štampačem, pa do štampanja postscript
fajlova na običnim laserskim štampačima, ali i dobre performanse
- u nezavisnim testovima pokazao se kao najbrži u file-servisima,
posebno u velikim mrežama sa preko 800 klijenata.
Nije bez značaja ni relativno niska cena u odnosu na glavne
konkurente, kao ni činjenica da se dobro integriše sa postojećim
NetWare serverima. Novell NetWare 4.1 takođe može da se izvršava
pod OS/2 što je trenutno jedini način da Novell server postane
non-dedicated.
Posebnu pažnju u Warp Serveru privlače dobro urađeni alati za
kontrolu mreže i nodova, SystemView i NetView. Moguće je sa
jednog mesta imati uvid u rad svih stanica, od tipa procesora i
instaliranih aplikacija do slobodnog prostora na disku i veličine
swap fajla.
mreze.223dvesic,
-> #222, nenad> NetWare serverima. Novell NetWare 4.1 takođe može da se izvršava
> pod OS/2 što je trenutno jedini način da Novell server postane
> non-dedicated.
Znači li ovo da praktično u prozoru OS/2 pokrenem Novell 4.1 ?
I da isti vidi normalno svoje diskove i sve ostalo ?
Da ne veruješ ... :)
mreze.224nenad,
Novo:
dos\net\*.*
------------------
cnfgit.zip 55k ű ConfigIt, automatizovanje rekonfiguracije stanica u mrezi
*********************
* ConfigIt Features *
*********************
ConfigIt(tm) 1.2 is a fast and powerful commandline utility that
automates file updating in a network environment. Without ConfigIt,
changes to configuration files have to made either one computer at a
time(very time consuming) or by replacing a current configuration file
with another(not practical if the configuration file requires unique
settings for each workstation, which is often the case). With ConfigIt,
you can specify the changes that you would like to make and leave all
other settings in the configuration file intact. Also you can have
Configit log each update to keep track of which workstations have been
updated. You can also create Configit Job files that can be used to
entirely automate file updates when several changes are needed
simultaneously. Because of Configit's flexible design, its many uses
are only limited by your imagination.
mreze.225nenad,
-> #223, dvesic> Znači li ovo da praktično u prozoru OS/2 pokrenem Novell 4.1 ?
> I da isti vidi normalno svoje diskove i sve ostalo ?
Upravo tako. :)
Čudi me da ne znaš za tu mogućnost, nije to nešto posebno novo.
Kao što verovatno znaš, OS/2 može da podigne u svom prozoru bilo
koju verziju DOS-a, odnosno bilo koji real-mode operativni sistem
čiji boot proces počinje sa standardnih hard-disk volumena koje
OS/2 prepoznaje - recimo Minix (preteča Linux-a), stari FS ili
Pirates. ;)
Nakon izlaska NW 4.0 neki zaludni Warp-ovac je probao da pokrene
NW iz prozora i iznenadio se kada je video da je boot proces
poprilično daleko odgurao. Onda su korak po korak jedan za drugim
problemi i konflikti su uklanjani i bila je napravljena neka
budževina i procedura kako to treba uraditi, fajl sa uputstvom je
kružio Internet-om. Naravno, postupak nije bio podržan ni od
IBM-a ni od Novell-a.
Onda je neko iz Novell-a uvideo prednosti i potencijalne
mogućnosti tog pristupa, i od verzije NetWare-a 4.1 je ova opcija
zvanično podržana. Uostalom, pogledaj instalaciju NW klijenta za
OS/2, pošto se koristi isti install program ima tamo opcija i
"Install OS/2 NetWare server", samo je zasivljena jer se ne
dobija server na onih par disketa. ;)
> Da ne veruješ ... :)
Nešto slično su rekli u MS-u kada su, sada već daleke '91. pred
izlazak OS/2 2.0 IBM-ovci tvrdili da će Windows programi raditi u
prozoru i deliti desktop sa OS/2 aplikacijama. Izjava je glasila:
"It can't be done." ;) A kada su videli da radi i deljenje
clipboard-a i DDE između Win i Warp aplikacija prestali su da
komentarišu i unajmili ekipu iz DEC-a da im napravi NT. ;)
ps. A veruješ li da na toj istoj mašini može da _istovremeno_
rade i Warp Server, IBM TCP/IP i da sve to ide preko iste
mrežne karte? ;)
mreze.226nenad,
Novo:
dos\net\*.*
------------------
xforum.zip 188k ű XForum 3, Network Message Forum System, proba do 31.12.96
x-FORUM3 is an easy-to-use network software product from Extensions
Software Corporation that provides an easy means for network users to
share ideas and issues in a public message conference forum.
x-FORUM3 provides messaging features needed in any workgroup
environment, including:
- Up to 26 different message forums
- Selectable forum access per user
- Selectable forum management access per user
- Selectable interactive or read-only forum types
- New message indicators
- New message 25th line bleep broadcast option
- Sort options for message listings
- Multi-level user security system
- International date/time options
- Built-in administrator system
- Online help system
- Printout to LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, or disk file
- TSR Operation
- Network-aware of Novell NetWare(R)
- Network-aware of Banyan VINES(R)
Message Forum System: x-FORUM3 provides an exciting public conference
message system whereby users can easily share thoughts and ideas.
x-FORUM3's built-in text editor is simple to use and includes text
import capability. Access to each message forum is controlled by the
x-FORUM3 administrator, and each message forum can be marked as
interactive (for message exchange) or read-only (for bulletins or
announcements).
Administrator System: Built into x-FORUM3 are complete administrator
maintenance functions, based on a user-level security access system,
including the following:
- System Information (system name, access type, etc)
- New User Defaults
- User Administration (settings and access)
- Forum Administration
- Message Administration
- Activity Log (audit trail)
- Error Log (should errors occur)
- Database Reindexing
- Database Summary
mreze.227sljubisic,
Subj: Novell
ili
'pocelo je, pocelo'
Danas dobih brosuru jedne nemacke firme sa njenim propagadnim materijalom,
ali i 'gratis' praznom dopisnicom na kojoj je doslovno pisalo:
********************************************************************
$ 6,000,000,000 lost to software theft in Europe!
Do YOU copy software?
Of course You don't, but the canches are that you know more than
one company who does.
SAY YES TO ORIGINAL SOFTWARE
Please call the Novell Anti-Piracy Hotlines if you have any infor-
mation relating to the theft of Novell products in the following
countries: Central/Eastern Europe
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Tel: 49 211 5631 3860
E-mail us at: pirates@novell.com
********************************************************************
Pravljenje baze nelegalnih korisnika je ocigledno pocelo, mada s obzirom
da je ovo brdoviti balkan i da nisu ponudili neku konkretnu nagradu, nisam
bas siguran koliko ce glatko ici.
mreze.228dr.grba,
-> #227, sljubisic>> Pravljenje baze nelegalnih korisnika je ocigledno pocelo, mada s obzirom
>> da je ovo brdoviti balkan i da nisu ponudili neku konkretnu nagradu, nisam
>> bas siguran koliko ce glatko ici.
Ovo je brdoviti Balkan i ljudi vole da komšiji crkne krava. Biće kao
u onom vicu o paklu: za Srbe ne treba dežurni đavo da ih tera da
gnjuraju u shit - vući ćemo jedni druge.
Mada, da kažem pravo, pozdravljam svaku organizovanu akciju progona
piraterije.
mreze.229nenad,
Izvor: PC Week
Corporate Buyers' Advisory: Enterprise Network-Operating Systems
Warp Server 4 IBM
Armonk, N.Y.
(800) 342-6672
http://www.software.ibm.com
STRENGTHS: The fastest file and print server we tested. Easier to
install than LAN Server; DHCP and DNS hosts ease TCP/IP
management; new graphical backup tool offers robust features;
includes utilities for remote console access, hardware/ software
inventorying, system monitoring, and remote network access.
WEAKNESSES: Sparse hardware support can make installation messy;
some hardware reconfiguration may necessitate editing INI files
from the command line; add-on network utilities are not tightly
integrated; current domain-centric directory structure doesn't
work well in enterprise environments.
Windows NT 3.51 Server Microsoft Corp.
Redmond, Wash.
(800) 936-3500
http://www.microsoft.com
STRENGTHS: Extensive hardware support and graphical management
tools; easy installation and management; support for multiple
processors, plus a RISC version, enhances scalability; extensive
TCP/IP support; provides standards-based remote-access service
for dial-up access.
WEAKNESSES: Domain architecture is not complete enough for
enterprise use and is difficult to adjust; demands top-notch
hardware for good performance.
NetWare 4.1 SMP Novell Inc.
Provo, Utah
(800) 638-9273
http://www.novell.com
STRENGTHS: With its highly flexible network user and resource
structuring, NDS eases enterprise network management; custom
tuning tools and lean code exploit hardware for best performance;
optional SMP version proves suitable for deployment as an
applications server.
WEAKNESSES: Lacks remote-access abilities; support for multiple
processors is not standard; only runs on Intel platforms.
BOTTOM LINE: Each of these three NOSes perform basic file and
print services well, though Warp Server 4 took the performance
lead in high-capacity tests. Enterprises already implementing LAN
Server should certainly upgrade to Warp Server 4, but the NOS
itself hasn't changed significantly; its numerous bundled
features also need tighter integration and client support.
Windows NT 3.51 Server supports the most back-end groupware and
database software, and its ability to run on various RISC
platforms is a good way to achieve performance improvements.
NetWare 4 offers the best industrial-strength directory services
features, making it compelling for corporate networks.
Warp Windows NT NetWare
Server 4 3.51 Server 4.1 SMP
Administrative and
Management Tools
Remote management GOOD GOOD EXCELLENT
Alarms and alerts EXCELLENT EXCELLENT GOOD
User and group administration GOOD GOOD GOOD
Accounting POOR POOR GOOD
Device management GOOD GOOD GOOD
Enterprise Management
Directory services FAIR FAIR EXCELLENT
Protocol support GOOD EXCELLENT EXCELLENT
Enterprise scalability GOOD GOOD EXCELLENT
Installation
Client configuration GOOD GOOD GOOD
NOS configuration POOR EXCELLENT GOOD
Ease of NOS upgrade GOOD GOOD GOOD
Documentation GOOD GOOD GOOD
Security
Auditing POOR POOR GOOD
Access security GOOD GOOD GOOD
Data security EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT
Performance
File and print services EXCELLENT GOOD GOOD
Applications server *POOR EXCELLENT GOOD
Scalability *POOR EXCELLENT GOOD
Tuning FAIR GOOD EXCELLENT
Client Support
Cross-platform integration GOOD GOOD GOOD
Remote-access implementation FAIR EXCELLENT POOR
* Multiple processors were not tested,
since an SMP version of Warp Server
is not scheduled to ship until later
this year.
mreze.230sljubisic,
Subj: Bridge-ovi za sirotinju :)
Da li neko zna (ili ima) za neki softver koji bi radio posao bridge-a,
ili u krajnjem slucaj i rutera. Ja imam neki PC Bridge i PC Route, koji
rade te stvari, public domain su, a nisu ni bajati :), ali podrzavaju samo
3Com 3c507 i Western Digital WD8003E kartice, koje se danas retko gde
imaju nabaviti. :(
Svaka info dobrodosla.
mreze.231vlad,
-> #230, sljubisic> ili u krajnjem slucaj i rutera. Ja imam neki PC Bridge i PC Route,
> koji rade te stvari, public domain su, a nisu ni bajati :), ali
> podrzavaju samo
Ako se dobro secam video sam jednom nesto slicno Imtel BBS-u. Nemam ga
vise, ali pamtim da su autori tvrdili da radi kako treba i na XT-u. Za
kartice ne znam, moraces da pogledas.
mreze.232sljubisic,
-> #231, vlad
>> ili u krajnjem slucaj i rutera. Ja imam neki PC Bridge i PC Route,
>Ako se dobro secam video sam jednom nesto slicno Imtel BBS-u. Nemam ga
>vise, ali pamtim da su autori tvrdili da radi kako treba i na XT-u. Za
>kartice ne znam, moraces da pogledas.
Ima li nekog ko to moze da proveri na Imtel-u?
Ja imam neke dve arhive:
pcbri121.zip, 5-29-95, duzine 76 K
pcrte224.zip, 5-29-95, duzine 235 K
koje takodje mogu da rade i na XT-u, ali samo sa pomenutim karticama.
Ako je na Imtelu (ili bilo gde drugde) nesto svezije, moli se dobra
dusa da to dovuce ovamo :)
mreze.233tomil,
-> #232, sljubisic> Ima li nekog ko to moze da proveri na Imtel-u?
Evo ti spisak fajlova na "IMTEL" BBS-u, pa vidi šta ti treba. Mogu
da skinem ako nije previše dugačko, (modem mi je 2400), ili ćemo
zamoliti ZorMi-ja da to dovuče ovamo.
allfiimt.zipmreze.234sljubisic,
-> #233, tomil
>> Ima li nekog ko to moze da proveri na Imtel-u?
> Evo ti spisak fajlova na "IMTEL" BBS-u, pa vidi sta ti treba. Mogu
>da skinem ako nije previse dugacko, (modem mi je 2400), ili cemo
>zamoliti ZorMi-ja da to dovuce ovamo.
Hmm, ja sam ceo spisao pregledao dva puta, ali nisam nasao nista sto
bi licilo na 'bridge' ili 'r(o)uter'. Zapravo, pojavljuje se 'bridge'
ali kao igra sa kartama :)
Umoljavam korisnika Vlad da se skoncetrise :) i barem proba da se seti
kako se zvao fajl, ili sta je pisalo u opisu.
mreze.235vlad,
-> #234, sljubisic> Umoljavam korisnika Vlad da se skoncetrise :) i barem proba da se
> seti kako se zvao fajl, ili sta je pisalo u opisu.
Joj, da sam znao da ce mi ovako tesko biti da se setim, ne bih ni pominjao
prokletinju B). Na disketama ga nema, Imtel BBS zvoni u prazno... Jedino
sto mi dopire do pameti je da se zvao nesto kao PCROUTE(R), ali zaista ne
smem da se zakunem u to. Skinucu taj spisak fajlova sa Imtel-a pa cu
ga pretresti iz sve snage. Pogledacu za svaki slucaj i na FON-u, mozda sam
ga i odande skinuo.
mreze.236banga,
-> #235, vlad> Joj, da sam znao da ce mi ovako tesko biti da se setim, ne bih
> ni pominjao prokletinju B). Na disketama ga nema, Imtel BBS
> zvoni u prazno... Jedino sto mi dopire do pameti je da se zvao
> nesto kao PCROUTE(R), ali zaista ne smem da se zakunem u to.
> Skinucu taj spisak fajlova sa Imtel-a pa cu ga pretresti iz sve
> snage. Pogledacu za svaki slucaj i na FON-u, mozda sam ga i
> odande skinuo.
Nemoj da se mučiš :)
Directory UBBG::PUBLIC:[MSDOS.COMM.TCPIP.MISC]
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Filename/Type Blks Date Description
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INAR-100.EXE/b 446 29/05/95 Turn a dedicated PC to an IP router
IPHONE06.EXE/b 1227 04/03/95 Internet PHONE - voice phone over
TCP/IP
PCBRI121.ZIP/b 150 15/01/96 PC Bridge - use PC as a network bridge
SLNOT100.ZIP/b 2334 24/02/95 SLIPKnot - read WWW w/out SLIP/PPP
connection
WEBSPN1.ZIP/b 888 11/06/95 Windows-based HTML editor 1.0
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mreze.237pkesic,
Treba mi pomoc za instalaciju mreze LANtastic.
Mrezu uspevam da podignem sa floppy-ija ali problem nastaje kada stanicu
trebam da podignem samo sa BOOT ROM-om. Da li neko zna da li treba poseban
EPROM za mrezu LANtastic, posto sada na karticama imam EPROM for NOVEL NetWare.
mreze.238sljubisic,
-> #237, pkesic
>Treba mi pomoc za instalaciju mreze LANtastic.
>Mrezu uspevam da podignem sa floppy-ija ali problem nastaje kada stanicu
>trebam da podignem samo sa BOOT ROM-om. Da li neko zna da li treba poseban
>EPROM za mrezu LANtastic, posto sada na karticama imam EPROM for NOVEL
>NetWare.
LANtastic je peer-to-peer mreza, i kao takva nije pogodna za podizanje
sa 'boot eproma', jer takav postupak (remote boot) zahteva da postoji
jedan server sa koga diskless stanica moze ucitati operativni sistem.
Takav server moze biti Novell NetWare, Windows NT ili neki drugi koji
podrzava tu mogucnost, a sadrzaj boot EPROMA se razlikuje u zavisnosti
od kartice i verzije (mreznog) operativnog sistema.
Peer-to-peer mreze su pravljene da budu sto jednostavnije za koristenje
i da pruze resenje za tipicne kancelarijske potrebe: delenje zajednickih
stampaca i diskova. Kada bi trebale da imaju i mogucnost remote boot-a,
onda bi jedna masina morala da bude stalno ukljucena sto je vec nalik
na 'prave' mreze sa posvecenim serverom. Iz tog razloga se boot promovi
za peer-to-peer mreze i ne prave, jer bi to vec pomalo bilo izmisljanje
rupa na saksiji.
Dakle, EPROM koji imas u ovom slucaju ne mozes da iskoristis, tako da ti
je ipak najbolje resenje da ga izvadis i tu stanicu dizes sa flopija.
mreze.239pkesic,
Jasno mi je da peer2peer mreze nisu k'o stvorene za Boot ROM, ali imam
takvu situaciju i moram naci resenje.
U NET_MGR-u od LANtastic-a 6.0, postoji deo koji se bavi Boot ROM-om
i on uspesno odradi svoj posao. Nevolja je u tome sto imama mrezne kartice sa
Novell NETWare Boot ROM-om.
Molim sve one koji imaju file sa slikom EPROMA za LANtastic da ga posalju.
Nemam bas puno iskustva sa mrezama, a pogotovo sa Boot ROM-om, ali sta je
tu je.
Hvala unapred.
mreze.240sljubisic,
-> #238, sljubisic
> na 'prave' mreze sa posvecenim serverom. Iz tog razloga se boot promovi
> za peer-to-peer mreze i ne prave, jer bi to vec pomalo bilo izmisljanje
> rupa na saksiji.
Da me neko nebi pogresno razumeo, prave se i za peer-to-peer ali vise kuri-
oziteta i upotpunjavanja ponude radi, nego zarad neke stvarne potrebe.
A i onda zaista izuzetno retko.
Od Artisofta (tvorac LANtastica) se moze poruciti boot EPROM za LANtastic
za njihove originalne (i nisacim kompatibilne) mrezne adaptere, kao i one
druge koje oni prave a kompatibilni su sa NE1000/2000 karticama. Za sve
ostale kartice najcesce je moguce naci boot EPROM samo za Novell NetWare,
i eventulano IBM Lan Server, MS Lan Manager i Windows NT. Ovo sve pod us-
lovom da se radi o nekoj kartici poznatog proizvodjaca: 3Com, SMC, D-Link,
Genius i dr., dok se kod no-name kartica mozete dosta namuciti. Cesto i
bezuspesno.
Problem je sto LANtastic i nije (poput recimo D-Link-ovog LANsmart-a) pra-
va peer-to-peer mreza, vec postaje neki 'hibrid' i sa odlikama klasicne
klijent-server mreze, a sa preteznijama integracije u postojece (LANtas-
tic for Windows, LANtastic for NetWare)
Dakle, ili bootavanje sa flopija, ili porucivanje i EPROMa i adaptera
direktno od Artisofta (sto i nije bas isplativo), ili stavljanje nekog
NetWare 3.x posvecenog servera, gde bi se taj postojeci boot EPROM mogao
iskoristiti.
mreze.241sljubisic,
-> #239, pkesic
> U NET_MGR-u od LANtastic-a 6.0, postoji deo koji se bavi Boot ROM-om
>i on uspesno odradi svoj posao. Nevolja je u tome sto imama mrezne kartice
>sa Novell NETWare Boot ROM-om.
Ok, jasan je problem, ali se bojim da je neresiv, barem na ovim nasim
prostorima.
> Molim sve one koji imaju file sa slikom EPROMA za LANtastic da ga posalju.
Bavim se mrezama dugo (mozda i previse dugo :) ali ovo jos nisam video,
pa izrazavam blagu bojazan da bi se tako nesto moglo naci, pogotovo ovde.
A da ne pominjem da slika EPROMA zavisi i od tipa, marke i modela same
mrezne kartice... :( A bas bi voleo da me neko demantuje.
Nego, nisi napisao kakve su ti konkretne potrebe: koliko kompjutera,
sta treba da se deli na mrezi i sl, a bez njih je vrlo nezahvalno pred-
lagati neka alternativna resenja.
mreze.242pkesic,
Imam server sa diskom i 5 (do 10) stanica. Samo server ima disk. Program radi
na svim stanicama i serveru!!!. Sve stanice imaju samo BootROOM. Predlozite
koji softver za mreze da koristim.
Hvala unapred.
mreze.243sljubisic,
-> #242, pkesic
>Imam server sa diskom i 5 (do 10) stanica. Samo server ima disk. Program
>radi na svim stanicama i serveru!!!. Sve stanice imaju samo BootROOM. Pred-
>lozite koji softver za mreze da koristim.
Ako vec imas posebnu masinu kao posvecen server i ako su ti sve stanice
diskless, i opskrbljene karticam sa bootromom onda je najbolje resenje da
se ponovo instalira NetWare. S obzirom na (pretpostavljam) zatecen hardver
bojim se i jedino resenje.
Medjutim nije mi jasno kada kazes da program radi i na serveru. Da li se
radi o nekoj klijent-server aplikaciji, ili se na serveru samo nalazi baza
i program (.exe) koji se kroz mrezu ucitava na stanice na kojima se vrsi
unos i ocitavanje baze?
mreze.244madamov,
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:50:21 -0400
From: MacWay@aol.com
Subject: PR--Dantz on Windows
Message-ID: <960802015021_447677099@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Keyword: Advocacy, Guerilla Tactics
This press release is from:
<kerry_macinnes@dantz.com> (Kerry MacInnes)
Here's something of interest to the Evangelist community: Retrospect is a
Mac-first, Mac-only application. Dantz has just shipped a Retrospect
add-on called Remote Pack for Windows 95 and NT operating systems.
So, for PC folks to get the best backup solution on the planet, they have
to buy a Macintosh. :-)
Abbreviated press release below:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WANT WINDOWS BACKUP? BUY RETROSPECT AND A MAC! #1 Macintosh backup
software now supports Windows 95 and Windows NT clients
ORINDA, CA - July 31, 1996 - Dantz Development Corporation is now
shipping the Remote Pack(tm) for the Windows(r) 95 and NT(tm) Operating
Systems, an add-on product to the popular Retrospect(r) and Retrospect
Remote(r) software.
Remote Pack for Windows 95/NT allows any Macintosh(r) running Retrospect
to back up a PC over the network. Once a Remote is installed on a Windows
computer, user data on both hard disks and ejectable disks available at
the time of backup, can be protected regularly, reliably, and
automatically.
Customer demand has driven the development of the new Remote Packs. Craig
Isaacs, Dantz vice president of sales and marketing, noted, "Many of our
customers work in cross-platform environments, and they have been asking
for a reliable Windows end-user backup solution. Now, they can simply add
their 32-bit Windows computers to their existing Retrospect backups."
Finally, Easy-to-Use Cross-Platform Backup Software
Adding Windows users to a Retrospect backup is as easy as adding
Macintosh users: simply use the Remote installation diskette to install
the Remote software on any Windows 95/NT computer with TCP/IP networking.
Then, from a Macintosh on the network running Open Transport version 1.1
or later and Retrospect, simply activate the Remote and include it in any
of your automated backups.
Excellent Performance
The Remote software is multi-threaded and has been specifically designed
to take full advantage of the Windows 32-bit operating systems. When
installed on Windows NT, the Remote software is designed to run as a
secure NT service.
Update from Retrospect 3.0 to Retrospect 3.0A Included Free
The new Remote Pack for the Windows 95/NT operating systems requires
Retrospect version 3.0A. Customers with Retrospect 3.0 can upgrade to
3.0A free of charge via Dantz's web site <http://www.dantz.com>. In
addition, all Remote Pack for Windows 95/NT boxes will include a free
update diskette.
Features
Remote Pack for Windows 95/NT users can take full advantage of
Retrospect's powerful automated backup features and exceptional
reliability.
EasyScript(tm)
EasyScript uses the answers to a few key questions to develop a custom
network backup strategy. EasyScript then creates a script which automates
this strategy, including backup frequency, scheduling, and media
rotation. All Remotes, both Macintosh and Windows, are automatically
included in the backup-even if Remotes are added after the script is
created.
Backup Server(tm)
Retrospect's Backup Server feature allows administrators to easily set up
a backup system that responds intelligently to the changing backup needs
of the computers on their network, giving them greater security and
flexibility with less effort than traditional scripted systems.
For example, administrators can set Retrospect to look for portable
computers with Remotes installed. When a computer connects to the
network, Retrospect will automatically back it up. If more than one
computer is available, Retrospect will automatically prioritize and back
up the computer most in need of a backup.
Many Retrospect users have set up a single Backup Server to easily manage
the backups of hundreds of computers.
Pricing and Availability
Remote Packs are available now in increments of five, ten, or fifty user
licenses. Remote Packs can be combined to support any number of users.
Five-user Remote Packs are available for under $120 (SRP US$169).
Ten-user Remote Packs are available for under $200 (SRP US$249).
Fifty-user Remote Packs are available for under $700 (SRP
US$1095).Retrospect remains priced at US $249 (SRP), though it is
generally available for under $200. Retrospect Remote remains priced at
US $449 (SRP), though it is generally available for under $300. All Dantz
products are available worldwide. Please contact local distributors for
local pricing.
Contacting Dantz
Customers can contact Dantz in any of the following ways: access our web
site at <http://www.dantz.com>, call 510-253-3000, fax 510-253-9099, or
e-mail <info@dantz.com>. For upgrades, call 800-225-4880.
________________
Do you believe in Macintosh? Please check out
<http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> and join the EvangeList mailing
list by sending an email to <evangelist@macway.com>.
mreze.245mikis,
Turn your NetWare server into an intranet/Internet publishing server
NetWare Web Server software lets you publish HyperText Markup Language
(HTML)documents on internal corporate networks and the World Wide Web.
Implemented as a set of NetWare Loadable Modules (NLMs), it quickly and
easily converts your NetWare 4.1 server into a Web server. Once you've
created your Web server, you can connect it to the World Wide Web and
establish an Internet presence. Or you can shield it from outside access
and use it as an intranet server, enhancing your NetWare network with
Internet technology.
Seize the benefits of intranets and the World Wide Web
The World Wide Web is the Internet's fastest-growing service. It offers
companies a remarkably powerful and cost-effective means of marketing their
products and services, as well as communicating with their customers,
investors, vendors, and employees.
Intranets bring the power of the Web inside. They enable companies to
present their internal data in a single, easily accessible format. They
also help companies publish more of their documents online, slashing their
printing costs.
Leverage your NetWare investment
NetWare Web Server is the ideal Web server for the NetWare« environment -
and the NetWare administrator. You can run the software on your NetWare
server. Or you can use the included NetWare 4.1 Runtime operating system
and build your Web server on a stand-alone machine. So there's no need to
buy or learn either UNIX« or NT*. You leverage both your system and your
expertise.
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Gain easy entry to the world of electronic publishing
With NetWare Web Server, you can create Web documents using any Web
authoring tool. You can then "publish" your documents by simply copying
them to the Web server, limiting access to certain users if desired.
NetWare Web Server makes it easy to access Web documents, too. It comes
with Netscape Navigator, the world's most popular Web browser.
Harness one of the industry's most powerful solutions
We've optimized NetWare Web Server's code, enhancing its speed and capacity
for user requests. In fact, NetWare Web Server is faster than NT- and
UNIX-based Web servers. See the performance benchmark tests by Shiloh
Consulting.
Enhance the security of your documents
NetWare Web Server leverages NetWare and TCP/IP security functions. Among
them is Novell Directory Services (NDS) Authentication, a feature that
provides secure access to your server and directories. NetWare Web Server
also lets you browse the NDS directory, making it easier than ever before
to find the information you need. What's more, access controls - based on
IP addresses, user name, hostname, directory, document, users or groups -
let you limit access to specific Web documents. These features let you
publish documents and still control who views them.
Employ a robust solution
NetWare Web Server also supports fault tolerance. Fully compatible with
NetWare SFT III, it enables users to mirror their NetWare Web Server site
on another system. The result is a robust publishing platform that's up and
running all day, every day.
Get a full-featured system
NetWare Web Server supports all the common features of the World Wide Web.
Supported features include forms, Java applets, JavaScript, the Remote
Common Gateway Interface (R-CGI), the Local Common Gateway Interface
(L-CGI), access controls and logging, plus BASIC and PERL script
interpreters.
Internet solutions from the industry leader
NetWare Web Server is part of an integrated Internet solution from Novell.
Novell« InnerWeb Publisher provides a dedicated intranet publishing
solution. And LAN WorkPlace«; 5, LAN WorkGroup 5, and LAN WorkPlace Pro
provide easy, concurrent access to TCP/IP, NetWare, and Internet resources.
As the worldwide leader in networking, PC LAN-to-UNIX integration, and
desktop TCP/IP solutions, Novell is uniquely positioned to help you
capitalize on the exciting opportunities the Internet offers.
Technical specifications
Features
* Easy installation and configuration
* Support for Java applets
* Support for JavaScript
* NetWare Runtime 4.1 operating system
* Netscape Navigator
* Web-browser access to NDS tree
* Server security through NDS
* Access controls
* Access logging
* Graphical administration interface
* BASIC script interpreters
* PERL script interpreters
* Local Common Gateway Interface (L-CGI)
* Remote Common Gateway Interface (R-CGI)
* Enhanced performance
System requirements
Server: 16 Mb RAM,
2.5 Mb hard disk space
(100 Mb if installing NetWare Runtime and building a new Web server),
CD-ROM drive for installation
Client: 386 PC, 4 Mb RAM,
2 Mb hard disk space,
CD-ROM drive for installation, Windows* 3.X, 95*, or NT
Copyrightę 1996 Novell, Inc. All rights reserved.
Novell, NetWare, and LAN WorkPlace are registered trademarks; and LAN
WorkGroup, LAN WorkPlace Pro, Novell InnerWeb Publisher, Novell Directory
Services (NDS), NetWare Loadable Module (NLM), and NetWare SFT III are
trademarks of Novell, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark in the United
States and other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company,
Ltd. Netscape Navigator and JavaScript are trademarks of Netscape
Communications, Inc. All products and trademarks marked with an asterisk in
this document are the properties of their holders.
For more information
For more information on Novell's information access products,
call:
In the U.S.: 1-800-NETWARE
Outside the U.S.: 1-801-429-5588
Write:
Novell, Inc.
122 East 1700 South
Provo, Utah 84606
Call our automatic Fax-Back system:
In the U.S.: 1-800-652-0139
Outside the U.S.: 1-801-429-3215
Or visit our World Wide Web site:
http://www.novell.com
For a complete Intranet solution, see the Novell InnerWeb Publisher.
489-000300-002 Rev. A
mreze.246mikis,
Novell ripe for a takeover?
By Dawn Yoshitake
August 30, 1996, 6:15 p.m. PST
Novell, with its declining revenues and stock
price, is viewed by technology researchers as a
good takeover target by Netscape Communications
and other technology companies.
A Forrester report released this week said
Netscape (NSCP) would do well by purchasing
Novell (NOVL). The Internet software maker would
benefit from Novell's installed base of more than
60 million users and a team of skilled service
technicians, according to a Bloomberg report.
Analysts expect Novell, which is losing market
share to Microsoft and a host of other
competitors that are luring corporate customers
from the aging NetWare 3.0 software, will see its
revenues drop this year by 25 percent to $1.5
billion.
Novell's stock, meanwhile, has plummeted 47
percent in the past year to fall below $11 a
share. A cheap stock could bring takeover
candidates.
Novell and Netscape officials disputed any merger
or takeover deal, according to Bloomberg.
Copyright ę 1996 CNET Inc. All rights reserved
mreze.247mikis,
NetWare« 4.11 (formerly Green River) Open Beta Program
What Is NetWare 4.11?
NetWare 4.11 is the next release of the NetWare 4 product line, the
best-selling network operating system (NOS) in the world today. The new
features in NetWare 4.11 build on an already superior NetWare 4.1 product.
These features make NetWare 4.11 the foundation and infrastructure for
Internet/intranet connectivity, and the most stable, reliable,
cost-effective and feature-rich version of NetWare ever released.
NetWare 4.11 provides the foundation on which today's intranets are being
built. Novell's NetWare Web Server gives customers a powerful, easy way to
use the Internet for both internal and external Web publishing. NetWare
4.11 simply provides full access to the Internet for all network users.
NetWare 4.11 and NetWare Web Server also deliver the power of NetWare
Directory ServicesÖ (NDSÖ) to the intranet. NDS-enabled software including
ManageWiseÖ and GroupWiseÖ share the NDS directory structure and unify the
whole process of intranet management.
Using NetWare 4.11 with IP enables customers to integrate Internet
technologies. Users can take advantage of open standards to access public
networks and private intranets. Customers use the Internet to link
geographically dispersed LANs, providing LAN-to-LAN file sharing and
enabling network administrators to manage remote LANs without the need for
privately managed network connections.
By allowing heterogeneous systems to be viewed as a single entity, NetWare
4.11 and NDS allow the use of simple click-and-drag administration for
unparalleled ease of use. NetWare 4.11 also provides the security,
authentication and auditing capabilities that have made it the industry's
most secure network operating system and, along with NDS, provides the
platform for true distributed computing. With NetWare 4.11 and NDS, the
network finally begins to work for you. NDS allows the flexibility,
scalability and extensibility needed for today's intra/internets.
NetWare 4.11 Features
* Novell Web Server 2.5 provides businesses with a simple Internet
publishing server for their network.
* Integrated IP and Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) support
simplifies network management and eases user access to both corporate
intranet and Internet resources.
* Integrated Services in the install help network administrators
interconnect IP and IPX networks.
* NetWare Client 32Ö for Windows 95 and DOS/Windows provides
administrators with their desktop platform of choice.
* NetWare Application LauncherÖ provides administrators with centralized
control of network applications. This control means users get
consistent access to applications, regardless of where whey log into
their networks.
* New graphical utilities makes it even easier to manage network and NDS
environments:
- Migration utilities
- NDS Manager utility
- NWAdmin enhancement
* Hardware auto detection of LAN cards speeds up NetWare installation,
and ensures that the correct drivers are loaded.
* Network-based C2 certification ensures sensitive data is protected
during transmission across networks and intranets.
* Symmetrical multiprocessing (SMP) adds scalability to support network
applications and intranets.
* NDS-enabled licensing services makes it simple to add and configure
users in the network.
How Can I Get the NetWare 4.11 Beta?
The NetWare 4.11 Beta is now available. You can obtain a copy by completing
the form below, or by calling 1-800-200-9140 or 512-434-1564. The material
cost for the CD is $30. Thank you for your interest in NetWare 4.11, the
NOS that delivers all the power and capabilities of the intranet.
You Could Win an All-Expenses-Paid Weekend Skiing in Park City, Utah!
mreze.248mikis,
- Press Release -
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Novell Delivers Robust Client For Windows NT Desktops
New 32-bit NetWare Client for Windows NT Enters Open Beta; Fully Supports
Upcoming Windows NT 4.0 Workstation
OREM, Utah -- July 30, 1996 -- Novell, Inc., the world's leading provider
of networking software solutions, today announced that its NetWare« Client
for Windows NT software will enter open beta by August 14, when it will
become available for download from Novell on-line forums on CompuServe and
the World Wide Web. The NetWare Client for Windows NT provides Windows NT
desktops with a seamless, cost-effective networking solution that combines
the most full-featured client software available with NetWare 4, the
world's leading intranet platform. The new NetWare client software
underscores Novell's commitment to provide a common set of advanced network
services across all major client and server platforms, connecting
organizations with more of the resources and information they need and
giving them an enduring competitive edge.
The NetWare Client for Windows NT connects Microsoft Windows NT 3.51 and
4.0 Workstation users to all NetWare services and information including
Novell Directory ServicesÖ (NDSÖ). Administrators can use the client
software to centrally manage NetWare services directly from Windows NT
workstations and to dynamically refresh client software across the network
using Automatic Client Update (ACU) capabilities. The NT client software
includes the Novell Application LauncherÖ (NAL), which utilizes NDS to give
users location-independent access to their applications and enables network
managers to centralize application installation and administration. Support
for remote access services (RAS) allows users to dial out to remote NetWare
or NT servers, connecting them to networked information from any location.
"Novell is releasing our NetWare Client for Windows NT in the same
timeframe as Microsoft's release of Windows NT 4.0 Workstation to ensure
that customers of all major desktop operating systems gain the best
possible access to NetWare network resources," said Denice Gibson, vice
president and general manager of Novell's Information Access Division. "The
NetWare Client for Windows NT offers full compatibility with Windows NT,
while providing significant enhancements such as a single graphical login,
integrated security and authentication and 32-bit administrative tools to
ease network management and lower support costs."
"The NetWare Client for Windows NT enables me to incorporate all of my
Windows NT desktops into the network and give them complete access to
network resources," said Amyn Hassan, senior networking analyst at
Houston's Methodist Hospital. "No other client software provides my users
with a comparable level of access, while giving me centralized and secure
control over my network and users."
The 32-bit NetWare Client for Windows NT is the newest member of Novell's
family of 32-bit client software, which includes the recently-released
NetWare Client 32 for DOS/Windows and the popular NetWare Client 32 for
Windows 95. The NT client offers users significant benefits, including:
* Full integration with Windows NT Workstation 3.51 and 4.0;
* One-step graphical login with a single password to gain complete
access to the workstation and all NetWare services;
* Full login script execution including NDS support;
* Access to NetWare services using TCP/IP;
* Co-exists with Microsoft peer-to-peer service, allowing user access to
resources and services on other NT servers and workstations;
* Auto-reconnection to servers, printers and other network resources in
cases of unplanned network connection disruptions; and
* Dial-in and dial-out capabilities to NetWare and Windows NT servers
through RAS to provide users with full access to remote network data.
The NetWare Client for Windows NT also provides administrators with
significant benefits, enabling them to:
* Lower the cost and complexity of client upgrades by dynamically
installing and refreshing client software across the network with ACU
capabilities;
* Centrally manage user access to network applications through NAL;
* Simplify administration through easy client setup, a fully
configurable installation and the ability to centrally update clients;
and
* Easily create, modify and delete NDS objects such as users,
applications and networked resources through the 32-bit NWAdminÖ
utility.
Availability
The NetWare Client for Windows NT open beta with Novell Application
Launcher will be available by August 14 to NetWare users electronically,
free of charge, from NetWire on CompuServe (GO NWCLIENT) and the World Wide
Web (http://support.novell.com). For additional information, customers can
contact Novell at 1-800-NETWARE, or download information from NetWire on
CompuServe or visit the World Wide Web at http://www.novell.com.
Founded in 1983, Novell (NASDAQ: NOVL) is the world's leading provider of
network software. The company offers a wide range of network solutions for
distributed network, Internet, intranet and small-business markets. Novell
education and technical support programs are the most comprehensive in the
network computing industry. Information about Novell's complete range of
products and services can be accessed on the World Wide Web at
http://www.novell.com.
Novell and NetWare are registered trademarks and NDS, Novell Application
Launcher and Novell Directory Services are trademarks of Novell, Inc.
NetWire is a registered service mark of Novell, Inc. in the United States
and other countries. All other registered trademarks and trademarks are the
property of their respective holders.
Press Contacts:
Gayle Uchida
Novell, Inc.
(408) 577-6625
Internet: guchida@novell.com
Chimene White
Cunningham Communication, Inc.
(408) 764-0751
Internet: chimene@ccipr.com
mreze.249mikis,
- Press Release -
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Novell Introduces IntranetWare
Networking Leader Evolves NetWare Network Operating System into
Full-Service Platform for Intranets and Internet Access
BURLINGAME, Calif. -- August 20, 1996 -- Novell, Inc. today announced
IntranetWareÖ, a new product that continues the evolution of NetWare«, the
world's leading network operating system (NOS), into a full-service
intranet and Internet access platform for businesses of all sizes.
IntranetWare builds on the distributed services found in NetWare 4.11
(code-named Green River) and integrates new intranet and Internet
technologies, including a high-performance Web server and browser; a
gateway between industry-standard TCP/IP and IPXÖ/SPX networking protocols;
and a multiprotocol router for wide-area network and Internet connections.
IntranetWare will ship in the fall of 1996 in the same time frame as the
separately available NetWare 4.11.
IntranetWare, along with network applications such as Novell's GroupWiseÖ
E-mail and collaboration solution and ManageWiseÖ network management
software, provides businesses with the most scalable, secure and reliable
full-service intranet solution. IntranetWare will enable NetWare customers
to preserve their existing network investment while evolving their business
networks to embrace Internet technology and the benefits of intranets.
IntranetWare enables customers to choose how and when they transition their
corporate networks to intranets, by allowing them to selectively install
those networking components that meet their immediate requirements.
IntranetWare is fully compatible with NetWare 4 servers, applications and
hardware, enabling users to upgrade their existing networks to networks
that embrace Internet technology. Novell will focus on the IntranetWare
platform and distributed network services in the future, but continue to
sell and provide full support for NetWare 4 and NetWare 3.
"With IntranetWare, Novell opens our product line and 55 million customers
to the future of networking," said Robert J. Frankenberg, Novell chairman
and CEO. "It was only a decade ago that Novell revolutionized networking
with NetWare. Now we have again reached one of those watershed points in
the development of our industry as customers evolve their networks into
intranets based on distributed network services and open standards. Once
again, Novell is driving the evolution of networking to give our customers'
businesses an enduring competitive edge."
"Novell defines a full-service intranet as a corporate network that
supports Internet technologies and open standards, while also providing the
distributed network services required for mission-critical business," said
Steve Markman, executive vice president and general manager for the Novell
Products Group. "With IntranetWare, we're giving organizations an intranet
platform upon which they can add ManageWise and GroupWise to create
full-service intranets that include directory, Web, security, file, print,
management and messaging. We believe this evolution of our core
technologies will help protect our customers' investments by smoothly
migrating them to intranets, and provide new customers with the best
price/performance intranet solution."
"IntranetWare will help NetWare users extend their existing network
infrastructure to the Internet and corporate intranets as they transition
from IPX-only network environments," added Lee Doyle, vice president of
local area networks and data communications at International Data
Corporation, a leading market analysis organization. "As more NetWare
customers take advantage of new Internet and intranet resources, they can
add capabilities without having to sacrifice their existing investment in
network access and management."
High-performance Web Server and Browser
IntranetWare enables businesses to access and publish information on
intranets and the Internet with a high-performance Web server, browser and
Web-site authoring tools. These include:
* Novell's NetWare Web ServerÖ 2.5, the fastest and most powerful Web
server in its class, and the only Web server integrated with Novell
Directory ServicesÖ (NDSÖ) for fast and easy management of
intranet-based information and resources;
* Netscape Navigator, the world's most popular browser for accessing the
World Wide Web and HTML-based applications and services, with Web-site
authoring tools included.
Simplified Administration of Internet Access
IntranetWare's integrated IP/IPX gateway greatly simplifies the process of
deploying an intranet Web server by freeing customers of the need to
retrofit their business networks with IP addresses. To access the intranet
or Internet, users simply launch the Netscape Navigator browser (or other
WinSock 1.1-compliant application) from any desktop workstation and pass
network traffic to the server for IPX-to-IP translation. Traditionally,
network administrators had to install and maintain a separate IP stack on
each desktop to provide NetWare clients with access to IP-based intranet or
Internet services. Because IP is only deployed on the IntranetWare server,
administrators save time and money by tracking and maintaining only one IP
address per group of users. When organizations are ready to move to IP,
IntranetWare supports TCP/IP with dynamic host configuration protocol
(DHCP) and BootP to ease IP address management.
Secure Access to Internet/Intranet Resources
IntranetWare is a uniquely secure platform that acts as a natural level-one
security firewall because only the server has an IP address, rendering
IPX-based servers and workstations invisible to potential intruders from
the Internet. With IntranetWare, network administrators can leverage both
packet-level and user-level control to provide secure Internet access and
manage the flow of information. IntranetWare also features the first
Internet access solution that supports user- and group-level security tied
to NDS, enabling administrators to manage, limit or block connections to
specific Internet services and sites. Future enhancements to IntranetWare
will feature full firewall and proxy cache capabilities.
Create Wide-Area Intranets
IntranetWare incorporates wide-area networking capabilities to support a
high-speed wide-area network connection to an Internet service provider or
a corporate intranet without requiring an external router, enabling
companies to minimize their network implementation and management expenses.
Its software routing technology provides wide-area networking services over
ISDN lines, leased lines, frame relay and even ATM links, enabling
organizations to easily upgrade to high-bandwidth technologies and maximize
investment in their existing hardware and infrastructure. IntranetWare also
provides businesses with server access to AT&T Worldnet Intranet Connect
Services and other telecommunications carriers worldwide providing secure,
managed wide-area intranet services based on Novell Connect Services (NCS)
technology.
Build and Run Applications on IntranetWare
IntranetWare provides a proven, reliable foundation for running network
applications and applications that leverage NDS, including the upcoming
GroupWise 5, Novell's messaging and collaboration application; ManageWise
2.1, the end-to-end PC LAN and intranet management solution; and numerous
third-party database and management applications. All applications
developed to work with NetWare 4 or NDS will automatically run on
IntranetWare upon its release this fall. IntranetWare also features the
NetBasic scripting engine, a Visual Basic-compatible scripting interpreter
that enables developers and administrators familiar with Visual Basic to
easily build, manage and deploy advanced intranet applications (including
dynamic HTML pages and sites) on IntranetWare.
To build and deploy intranet solutions based on IntranetWare, developers
will also be able to leverage all of the common World Wide Web services,
including Java applets, JavaScript, the Remote Common Gateway Interface
(R-CGI), the Local Common Gateway Interface (L-CGI), access controls and
logging, and PERL script interpreters. Development partners will also be
able to use an upcoming version of the Java Virtual Machine, an execution
environment that will enable organizations to run Java applications on
IntranetWare.
Enhancements to Core Novell Services
IntranetWare is built on Novell's core file, print, and directory services
and preserves all enhancements to the operating system, services and
utilities originally planned for NetWare 4.11. These include:
* Built-in support for symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) for increased
scalability and power to run enterprise-wide intranet applications;
* NetBasic, a Basic scripting tool for access to network services and
fast development of intranet applications utilizing NDS;
* New graphical network administration tools, including NetWare
AdministratorÖ (NWAdminÖ) to better manage companies' network and NDS
environments;
* C2-level security to protect sensitive data during transmission across
networks;
* Improved network migration and installation utilities; and
* NLS, a licensing service that allows organizations to track and
monitor the use of licensed software across networks.
Pricing and Availability
Novell will release IntranetWare in the fall of this year. Pricing is not
yet available. For additional information on IntranetWare, customers can
call 1-800-NETWARE or visit Novell's World Wide Web site at
http://www.novell.com.
Founded in 1983, Novell (NASDAQ: NOVL) is the world's leading provider of
network software. The company offers a wide range of network solutions for
distributed network, Internet, intranet and small-business markets. Novell
education and technical support programs are the most comprehensive in the
network computing industry. Information about Novell's complete range of
products and services can be accessed on the World Wide Web at
http://www.novell.com.
Novell and NetWare are registered trademarks, and GroupWise, InnerWeb
Publisher, IntranetWare, IPX, ManageWise, NDS, Novell Directory Services,
NetWare Administrator, NWAdmin and NetWare Web Server are trademarks of
Novell, Inc. All other registered trademarks and trademarks are the
property of their respective holders.
Press Contacts:
Jason Werner
Novell, Inc.
Phone: (801) 861-4009
Internet: jwerner@novell.com
Julia Mason
Cunningham Communication, Inc.
Phone: (408) 982-0400
Internet: julia@ccipr.com
mreze.250sljubisic,
-> #247, mikis
>NetWare 4.11 Features
> * Hardware auto detection of LAN cards speeds up NetWare installation,
> and ensures that the correct drivers are loaded.
Secam se, nije bilo toliko davno, kada su doticna gospoda iz Novell-a
tvrdila da je ovaj koncept (kojeg inace protazira NT) 'vrlo nepouzdan
na mnogim OEM mreznim adapterima' i da ga zato Novell _nikada_ nece
implementirati u neki svoj NOS.
Dakle, nikad ne reci 'nikad' ... :)
mreze.251sljubisic,
-> #246, mikis
>Novell, with its declining revenues and stock
>price, is viewed by technology researchers as a
>good takeover target by Netscape Communications
>and other technology companies.
>A Forrester report released this week said
>Netscape (NSCP) would do well by purchasing
>Novell (NOVL).
Ko bi se necemu ovakom nadao, jos pre, recimo, samo godinu dana?
I to od Netscape-a, firme koja je svoje proizvode delila (i jos uvek
deli) besplatno preko Interneta? :)
U svakom slucaju, ako do ovakve 'integracije' dodje (pa ma kako ona
izvedena bila, i ko tu koga kupio) MS bi dobio vise nego dostojnog
konkurenta, sto bi ga mozda moglo naterati da vise energije i novca
ulaze u razvijanje vlastitih proizvoda, a ne kao do sada u merketing.
mreze.252nenad,
-> #251, sljubisic> Ko bi se necemu ovakom nadao, jos pre, recimo, samo godinu dana?
> I to od Netscape-a, firme koja je svoje proizvode delila (i jos uvek
> deli) besplatno preko Interneta? :)
Mlate oni dobre pare za svoje servere kao i Secure servere i
klijente. Osnovna prednost nad MS-om je (osim što imaju bolji
čitač ;) što su njihovi proizvodi raspoloživi za 17 različitih
platformi, a samim tim i većinu bitnijih Unix-a koji čine osnovu
Internet-a.
Inače, i na tom polju se dešavaju pregrupisavanja i formiraju se
"neprincipijelne koalicije". ;) Netscape je ušao u veoma blisku
saradnju sa IBM-om i Apple-om, Navigator 4.0 će podržavati
OpenDoc i viće razvijan pomoću IBM-ovog multi-platformskog
razvojnog okruženja, VisualAge C++. Prva vidljiva posledica će
biti Web klijenti i serveri za OS/2 i OS/400 (za AIX već
postoji), a za neke dalekosežnije posledice ćemo morati da
sačekamo.
mreze.253mikis,
-> #251, sljubisic+> Ko bi se necemu ovakom nadao, jos pre, recimo, samo godinu dana?
+> I to od Netscape-a, firme koja je svoje proizvode delila (i jos uvek
+> deli) besplatno preko Interneta? :)
Iskreno rečeno, sumnjam u ovakav razvoj događaja. Mislim da je sada
Novell na udaru "hype-a", kao što je do nedavno bio Apple. Sećate se, zbog
slabijih rezultata u jednom periodu godine (posledica velikog broja
neprodatih mašina na zalihama) krenula je priča kako su pukli, kako će ih
preuzeti Sun, Sony ili ko već ne... I onda - doš'o novi upravnik, tresnuo
šakom od sto... I nikom ništa. Sad kreće ista priča za Novell.
Videćemo šta će od ovoga biti, ali ubeđen sam da ove priče podstiču isti
oni koji su pisali o propasti Apple-a i pitali se hoće li pojava MSN-a
značiti kraj Interneta ;)
Uzgred, sviđala mi se ideja o integraciji NetWare-a i UnixWare-a u
SuperNOS, šteta što se od toga odustalo.
mreze.254sljubisic,
-> #253, mikis
> Iskreno receno, sumnjam u ovakav razvoj dogadaja. Mislim da je sada
>Novell na udaru "hype-a", kao sto je do nedavno bio Apple. Secate se, zbog
>slabijih rezultata u jednom periodu godine (posledica velikog broja
>neprodatih masina na zalihama) krenula je prica kako su pukli, kako ce ih
Slazem se sa tobom, i takodje sumnjam da ce sve ici bas tako 'glatko'.
Trenutno je hit Internet, Intranet, Web, FTP i Gopher serveri, potrebni
su serveri koji mogu da efikasno izvrsavaju C++, BGI, CGI, Perl skript
i Java kodove, sto moze predstavljati veliki problem NetWare-u koji je
optimizovan za file&print deljenje, gde se skoro sav kod izvrsava kod
klijenta na racunaru. To je shvatio i Novell i ekspresno je izdao svoj
'Green River' (4.11) kako bi parirao NT4.0 i njegovom Internet Information
Serveru.
Nesumnjivo je da je Novell ipak u ne bas zavidnoj poziciji, ali i ima ono
sto Microsoft jos uvek nema: golemu korisnicku bazu i sistem administra-
tore koji su se 'saziveli' sa NetWare-om i bice prilicno inertni po pita-
nju prelaska na NT, barem kada se o potpunoj migraciji radi. Medjutim,
sasvim je moguce da ce veliki broj tih istih administratora iz radoznalo-
sti uzeti NT i IIS kao front-end Internet Server, i postepeno se navika-
vati i na njega, sto je, cini mi se, karta na koju Microsoft igra.
> Uzgred, svidala mi se ideja o integraciji NetWare-a i UnixWare-a u
>SuperNOS, steta sto se od toga odustalo.
Koliko je moguce razluciti iz onoga sto, namerno ili 'slucajno', procuri
iz Novell-a, upravo bi Moab bio jedna takva kombinacija. Prakticno vec
je NetWare 4.1 sa podrskom za viseprocesorske platforme imao u sebi deo
UnixWare-a, sto se pokazalo kao dobar potez. E sada, sta ce jos pomenuti
Moab (ili NetWare 5.0 kako ga mnogi nazivaju) doneti, i da li ce to biti
samo puka sinteza ova dva Novell-ova proizvoda optimizovan za neki proce-
sor koji ce tada biti aktuelan na trzistu, ili jos i nesto sasvim trece,
mislim da ni Novell-ovi programeri nisu nacisto :)
mreze.255dr.grba,
-> #253, mikis>> Uzgred, sviđala mi se ideja o integraciji NetWare-a i UnixWare-a u
>> SuperNOS, šteta što se od toga odustalo.
Ja sam bio malo skepričan prema ovoj ideji - činilo mi se da bi ispalo
od svega po ništa.
mreze.256mikis,
NETSCAPE UNVEILS NETSCAPE APPFOUNDRY ONLINE FOR IS PROFESSIONALS CREATING
INTRANET APPLICATIONS
INNOVATIVE NEW ONLINE COMMUNITY INCLUDES SOURCE CODE, TOOLS AND FORUMS WITH
CONSULTANTS FROM ANDERSON CONSULTING, CSC, DELOITTE & TOUCHE, KPMG AND
OTHERS
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MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. (September 9, 1996) -- Netscape Communications
Corporation (NASDAQ: NSCP) today announced Netscape AppFoundry Online, an
innovative new Internet community for IS professionals and corporate
developers who are creating business applications on their Intranets. The
Netscape AppFoundry Online community features dozens of online forums where
IS professionals can collaborate with application developers and enterprise
tools vendors participating in the Netscape AppFoundry program, announced
separately today. Forums will also be hosted by consultants from major
systems integrators such as Andersen Consulting, BBN Planet, Booz-Allen &
Hamilton, Cambridge Technology Partners, Computer Sciences Corporation,
Deloitte & Touche, KPMG Peat Marwick LLP and others.
Netscape AppFoundry Online also features source code, links to trial
versions of new development tools, and other resources available at no
charge to developers building solutions with Java, JavaScript and other
technologies from Netscape ONE, the open network environment. The Netscape
AppFoundry Online community goes live today on the Netscape Internet site
at http:\\home.netscape.com.
"Netscape AppFoundry Online creates a new community for IS professionals by
bringing together technical professionals who are faced with an entirely
new challenge: building cross-platform business applications that span
corporate departments and firewalls to integrate customers, suppliers and
partners into corporate applications," said Mike Homer, senior vice
president of marketing at Netscape.
A recent study by InfoWorld, a leading trade publication, revealed that
implementation of corporate Intranets has exploded from 39 percent to 51
percent of those surveyed in just three months. Sixty percent of those
polled stated they are establishing Intranets to support and develop
corporate applications. To create a sense of community for the IS
professionals who are building business applications on Intranets, Netscape
is providing Netscape AppFoundry Online as an Internet community with
forums, needed resources, support, source code and links to powerful new
development tools.
Netscape AppFoundry Online features five areas to provide a range of
resources for IS professionals:
* Reusable Business Applications, a collection of JavaScript-based
applications that cross corporate departments and firewalls to include
customers, suppliers and partners in corporate applications.
Hyperlinks take users to a detailed description and screen shot of
each application and downloadable, reusable source code and
documentation for each application, available at no charge.
* Enterprise Development Tools, a listing of powerful tools based on the
open, cross-platform technologies in the Netscape ONE platform such as
Java, JavaScript and Netscape Internet Foundation Classes. Hyperlinks
take the user to a detailed description of product features and a
screen shot of each tool, as well as information on how to download a
trial version of each product with online documentation at no charge.
* Dozens of Online Forums, where IS professionals and corporate
developers can ask questions, discuss, collaborate and share
information with Netscape AppFoundry hosts. Planned forum hosts
include consultants from major systems integrators, application
developers, tools vendors and Netscape.
* Online Demonstrations and Case Studies, which let users test-drive
Netscape AppFoundry applications through their Netscape Navigator
client software. These demonstrations are expected to be available by
the end of the year.
* Resource Guide, a comprehensive guide for IS professional that
includes the Netscape ONE Directory of content developers,
consultants, Java and JavaScript programmers, system integrators and
Web site designers and a library of easily searchable technical
information, frequently asked questions, white papers and Netscape
product documentation.
Netscape Communications Corporation is a premier provider of open software
for linking people and information over enterprise networks and the
Internet. The company offers a full line of clients, servers, development
tools and commercial applications to create a complete platform for
next-generation, live online applications. Traded on NASDAQ under the
symbol "NSCP," Netscape Communications Corporation is based in Mountain
View, California.
Additional information on Netscape Communications Corporation is available
on the Internet at http://home.netscape.com, or by sending email to
info@netscape.com. Corporate customers can call 415/937-2555 and consumers
can call 415/937-3777 for more information.
Netscape, Netscape Navigator, the Netscape Navigator logo and Netscape
Inbox Direct are trademarks of Netscape Communications Corporation.
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Copyright ę 1996 Netscape Communications Corporation
mreze.257npeca,
Poshtovana gospodo.
Kao i svi ucesnici ove konferencije imam i ja jedan problem,pa stoga
da predjem na stvar.
Pre otprilike godinu dana sam se zaposlio u firmi koja je imala par
kompjutera i trckaranje sa disketama za stampanje na drugom racunaru.
Onda sam malo unapredio masine i postavio NE2000 adaptere,malo koaks
kabla,IPX/SPX,WIN95 i mreza je proradila,dakle bez servera (peer to
peer).Ima koji deljeni disk i stampac i to je sve.Nazalost,dosao je
Internet a mom BOSS-u se videlo te imam zadatak da SVE masine bacim
na Internet.
Sad,da li dici sve masine na TCP/IP protokol a sa jedne preko dial-
up adaptera pristupiti EUnet-u ili neko drugo resenje???
Ne bi bilo lose sagledati varijantu bez dodatne masine zbog ogranicenih
finansijskih sredstava:((( mada je ovako bezbednost mreze dovedena u
pitanje.Cekam vase predloge!
Unapred hvala.
mreze.258maksa,
-> #257, npeca>> sve.Nazalost,dosao je Internet a mom BOSS-u se videlo te imam
>> zadatak da SVE masine bacim na Internet.
>>
>> Sad,da li dici sve masine na TCP/IP protokol a sa jedne preko
>> dial- up adaptera pristupiti EUnet-u ili neko drugo resenje???
Ako nema puno (manje ili jednako 3) mašina, najjeftinija solucija
je verovatno WinGate (šatro proxy za Win95). Dakle, treba ti jedan
što bolji modem, jedna tel. linija (što kvalitetnija, al' tu avaj ne
možeš da biraš), i WinGate, tj. program prikačen uz poruku. Odštampaj
uputstvo za program, i kreni lagano.
Provereno radi.
wg1314.zipmreze.259spantic,
-> #257, npeca> Sad,da li dici sve masine na TCP/IP protokol a sa jedne preko dial-
> up adaptera pristupiti EUnet-u ili neko drugo resenje???
Nemaš neki veliki izbor. Jednostavno postavi gateway softver koji
omogućava da deliš resurse mrežnog izlaza računara koji se dial-upom
povezao sa ISPom.
Takvi su programi Sesames i drugi. Plaćaju se.
mreze.260npeca,
-> #258, maksaHvala Maks!
Mada ima otprilike 5 ljutih masina :>>> ,a bice ih i vise,probacu sa tvojim
programcicem,mada lagano uvidjam da treba postaviti posebnu masinu za Internet
pa preko nje u beeeeeeeeli svet :).
Ta bi mi olaksalo i postavljanje prezentacije i kojekakvih manje-vise bitnih
stvari.
Ipak,hvala na pomoci.Javicu ti kako je proslo.
mreze.261nenad,
Ethernet, odgovori na često postavljana pitanja (FAQ).
eth-faq.zipmreze.262nenad,
Reply na PCHARD.6:mreze.162, mmarkovic:
>> ...ali stoji da su za aplikacioni server NT i Warp (ili neki Unix,
>> ostalom) trenutno bolje rešenje od NetWare-a.
>
> U čemu bolje? Može li konkretno?
Najznačajnije su, koliko ja znam, dve stvari:
1. Zaštita među procesima
NetWare svoje aplikacije (NLM-ove) izvršava u povlašćenom
režimu (Ring 0) Intel procesora, one se međusobno "vide", a
"vide" i sam kernel operativnog sistema. Neka loše napisana
aplikacija može "za sobom" da povede i ostale, neki drajver za
uređaj, a pretpostavljam i ceo server. S druge strane, to
značajno poboljšava performanse, a i pokazalo se da takva
koncepcija radi i završava posao bez većih problema sve ove
godine od kad NetWare dominira. Uostalom, ne piše baš svako
aplikacije za server.
S druge strane NT i Warp aplikacije izvršavaju u ring-u 3,
daleko od kernela i daleko jedne od drugih. Pad jedne ne ometa
drugu. Interesantno je da su Warp i NT u poslednjim verzijama
krenuli u donekle suprotnim pravcima - MS je deo OS-a koji se
brine o ispisu na ekran zajedno sa drajverima za video kartu
"spustio" u ring 0 zarad dobitaka na brzini, dok OS/2 sa
Merlinom dobija GRADD video drajvere koji, osim
pojednostavljenog pisanja i lakog portovanja na druge
procesora omogućavaju povratak od pada ili baga - ono što pišu
third-party kopmanije (proizvođači hardvera) se nalazi na
bezbednom mestu, a engine drajvera koji je IBM-ov i zajednički
za sve je u privilegovanom "prstenu". Za NT server ovaj MS-ov
kompromis ne mora imati previše značaja jer se tu ispis na
ekran i ne koristi toliko intenzivno, samo oni koji vole da
sve to izgleda 'fancy' će na serveru da dižu 1024x768 u 16
miliona boja. Za WS je već druga priča, tu može biti problema
ali sigurno ne više nego što ih ima na Win95.
Slično je i sa raznim Unix-ima. Ako vam je do Unix-a, najbolje
uzmite neki PowerPC ili kompletan RS/6000 i stavite AIX,
on je nekrunisani kralj Unix-a (cenu neću da pominjem ;>.
2. Lakši razvoj
Da bi NetWare bio aplikacijski server njegova aplikacija se
mora pisati posebno, kao NLM modul. Osim što izbor jezika
praktično svodi na C, to zahteva i učenje svih posebnosti
programiranja NLM-ova, proučavanje Novell-ovih biblioteka,
API-ja, Ring 0 programiranja... Nešto što je upotrebljivo samo
za tu namenu, nešto što se nije moglo naučiti nigde drugde,
dakle nešto što ne može baš svako sebi da priušti.
S druge strane, programiranje serverskog programa na NT-u je u
velikoj meri slično kao i onog koji se izvršava na klijentu.
Jedini "keč" je što postoje Win32s, Win32c (Win95 podskup
NT-ovog API-ja) i puni NT-ov Win32 API, pa treba obraćati
pažnju i na to šta se sme i šta ne sme, a i neki programeski
"guidelines" se kod MS-a menjaju od verzije do verzije. Nije
baš "samo rekompajlirati" kako to u reklamama piše, ali nije
ni daleko od toga. Na Warpu je još jednostavnije pošto između
servera i klijenta što se programera tiče nema apsolutno
nikakve razlike osim što je na serveru dostupan i dodatni
mrežni API, a on je u značajnoj meri podržan i na Peer
verzijama klijenata. Programira se na način na koji je većina
već navikla, raspoloživo je puno jezika i razvojnih alata, od
kompajlirnaih (C/C++, Delphi/Pascal) do interpretiranih
(Visual Basic, Rexx..), od klasičnih kompajlera iz komandne
linije do vizuelnih razvojih alata itd. Sa Unix-om je slično.
Naravno, ovo ne mora da ima nekog posebnog značaja ako ne
postoji namera da se programiraju serverski delovi aplikacije,
ali nikad se ne zna. Meni se čini lakše recimo napraviti Rexx
skript, pa čak i batch fajl koji će da se izvršava na serveru
i jednom dnevno u neko noćno doba da arhivira bitne podatke na
drugu particiju ili disk, umesto da za te poslove odvojim
jednu celu stanicu koja mora da se automatksi loguje pod
privilegovanim nalogom i obavi posao.
mreze.263maksa,
-> #262, nenad>> NetWare svoje aplikacije (NLM-ove) izvršava u povlašćenom
>> režimu (Ring 0) Intel procesora,
Ovo važi, ali samo za verzije 3.x.
U 4.x su vratili aplikacije tamo gde im je mesto - u Ring 3.
Valjda. ;)
mreze.264sljubisic,
-> #263, maksa
> Ovo vazi, ali samo za verzije 3.x.
> U 4.x su vratili aplikacije tamo gde im je mesto - u Ring 3.
Cini mi se da je to bilo pokusano u verzijama 4.0x, kojih se Novell i
javno odrekao ;), a da je u 4.1x vraceno 'na staro'.
> Valjda. ;)
Takodje :)
Uostalom ovde se na 80% Netware servera vozi 3.11, na 19% 3.12, dok je po
mojem iskustvu 4.x (dakle i 4.0x i 4.1x) instaliran samo na 1% svih ovda-
snjih masina na kojima trci NetWare.
mreze.266dr.grba,
-> #263, maksa>> U 4.x su vratili aplikacije tamo gde im je mesto - u Ring 3.
CDROM.NLM iz 15.11.94, onaj koji mi je spucavao server, je radio u
ringu 0 na Novell Netware serveru. Zato je potraga i dugo trajala.
Prvo smo mislili da je 'ladni lem na matičnoj ploči... zamena...
zamena procesora.... zamena cele mašine... i na kraju patch...
mreze.267mmarkovic,
-> #262, nenad>>> ...ali stoji da su za aplikacioni server NT i Warp (ili neki Unix,
>>> ostalom) trenutno bolje rešenje od NetWare-a.
>>
>> U čemu bolje? Može li konkretno?
>
> Najznačajnije su, koliko ja znam, dve stvari:
>
> 1. Zaštita među procesima
>
> NetWare svoje aplikacije (NLM-ove) izvršava u povlašćenom
> režimu (Ring 0) Intel procesora, one se međusobno "vide", a
> "vide" i sam kernel operativnog sistema. Neka loše napisana
> aplikacija može "za sobom" da povede i ostale, neki drajver za
> uređaj, a pretpostavljam i ceo server. S druge strane, to
> značajno poboljšava performanse, a i pokazalo se da takva
> koncepcija radi i završava posao bez većih problema sve ove
> godine od kad NetWare dominira.
> Uostalom, ne piše baš svako aplikacije za server.
Ubedi me u dve reči (dobro, malo više;) da je za nas NetWare bolje
rešenje!
Pa ne očekujete valjda da nemam poverenja u NLM koji je potpisao
ORACLE? Pa još verzija 7.x?
Principijelno, priznajem da postoji problem prevelikih prava koje
ima NLM, ali ne vidim da je to ovde slučaj!
Drugo, ako je ORACLE na istoj mašini gde su i podaci, problem
"uskog grla", protoka podataka kroz mrežu ne stoji, podaci su na
lokalnom disku. Protok ka lokalnom disku je danas cca 5x veći nego
protok ka mrežnom disku.
Naravno, ovo važi za 10 mbitne mreže, 100 mbita ponovo unosi
dilemu. Dok 100 mbitne mreže pojeftine i diskovi će biti brži.
Kao međurešenje vidim, možda, 100 mbitno povezivanje NT-ORACLE
servera sa NetWare serverom, dok bi ostale veze ostale 10 mbitne.
Pisanje sopstvenih aplikacija, radilo se o NLM-ovima ili NT
aplikacijama, sigurno ne dolazi u obzir u prvom trenutku. Bitno
je samo da baza brzo i efikasno odgovara na upite, i to ako može
_i_ sa udaljenih lokacija...
Meni se i dalje čini da su najveći problem ekspoziture koje
pristupaju telefonskim linijama, a da će u lokalu sve biti OK...
Što se interneta/intraneta tiče, to može da bude dodatni, a ne
osnovni pristup bazi. Onda valjda nije problem dodati jednu NT
mašinu u mrežu, koja će se obraćati bazi, kao i svaki drugi
klijent.
mreze.268maksa,
-> #264, sljubisic>> Cini mi se da je to bilo pokusano u verzijama 4.0x, kojih se
>> Novell i javno odrekao ;), a da je u 4.1x vraceno 'na staro'.
Moguće, žao mi je što mi nije pri ruci časopis u kome je bio
opsežan test vodećih mrežnih OS-ova. Ono čega se sećam je da je
najbolje performanse pokazao Novell UnixWare.
mreze.269madamov,
-> #262, nenad> Ako vam je do Unix-a, najbolje uzmite neki PowerPC ili kompletan RS/6000
> i stavite AIX, on je nekrunisani kralj Unix-a (cenu neću da pominjem ;>.
Apple Network Serveri 500 i 700 (PowerPC 604e), najjeftinija konfiguracija oko
$11000. B) Sve sa RAID diskovima, DAT-om, gomilom memorije, i, naravno, ni
traga od MacOS-a, sve to vozi AIX 4.1. Evo nešto više o tome:
Apple Unveils Fast Servers at Seybold
-------------------------------------
by Mark H. Anbinder <mha@tidbits.com>
Last week, Apple took advantage of its continued prominence in the
desktop publishing and design markets to push its latest network
server technology at the Seybold Conference in San Francisco. The
company introduced its latest server model and several
enhancements to the Network Server and Workgroup Server lines,
focusing on the Network Server 700/200, which now supports up to
65 GB of internal disk storage.
This latest Network Server model sports a 200 MHz PowerPC 604e
processor and 48 MB of parity memory. Key to its data-handling and
throughput capabilities are its two internal fast/wide SCSI-2
buses and an additional external SCSI channel. The system can
handle up to seven 9 GB disks and one 2 GB disk internally using
hot-swappable drives on removable trays, and can support up to a
terabyte of total disk capacity using external disk arrays. The
Network Server 700/200 has an Apple Price of $16,129 and should be
available in early October of 1996.
New options for the Network Server line include 9 GB fast/wide
SCSI-2 hard drives and 8mm tape drives (which can back up as much
as 22 GB per hour) preconfigured with removable trays, and an
unlimited user license upgrade for AIX to replace the two-
concurrent-login license that comes with the AIX accessory kit for
the Network Servers. AIX 4.1 for Apple Network Servers, developed
in conjunction with IBM, offers AppleTalk, Apple Events, and
AppleScript capabilities familiar to Macintosh system
administrators.
At the same time, Apple has enhanced its Workgroup Server line by
giving the 7250 and 8550 models larger hard disks, faster (8X)
CD-ROM drives, more memory, and/or a processor speed bump. The
company continues to offer configurations without software, with
AppleShare printing and file server software, or with an Internet
server software bundle including WebSTAR. Prices range from $2,689
to $7,399, depending on the model and configuration, and
availability is expected to start in October.
<http://product.info.apple.com/pr/press.releases/1996/q4/960909.pr.rel.servers.
h
tml>
mreze.270miroslavn,
Kako da resim sledeci problem :
Postoji vise racunara vezanih u Window-s mrezu (NetBEUi), sto sa
win311 sto sa w95. Na jednom od njih je instaliran brz modem (33.6k),
a kasnije bi mozda isla i linija da provajdera. Pogadjate gde je
problem. Kako da, kad se taj racunar veze za provejdera (za sada
modemom) ,da svi mogu koristeci Netscape ili sl. da pristupaju
internetu....?
mreze.271dvesic,
-> #267, mmarkovic> Ubedi me u dve reči (dobro, malo više;) da je za nas NetWare bolje
> rešenje!
> Pa ne očekujete valjda da nemam poverenja u NLM koji je potpisao
> ORACLE? Pa još verzija 7.x?
Očekujem ;) Naravno da ne treba pokloniti (bezrezervno) poverenje
bilo kojoj aplikaciji koja radi u prstenu 0 ...
Apropo toga, u jednoj velikoooj ustanovi sam pre neki dan smrzao
NetWare 4.1 server SQL upitom nad bazom ;) Ne, nije u pitanju ORACLE.
mreze.272mmarkovic,
-> #271, dvesic> Apropo toga, u jednoj velikoooj ustanovi sam pre neki dan
> smrzao NetWare 4.1 server SQL upitom nad bazom ;)
> Ne, nije u pitanju ORACLE.
--------------------------
Pa to ti pričam... ;)
mreze.273mikis,
Prvo je "u trendu" bio Internet, sada je to intranet, a sledece je... naravno,
extranet:
Andreessen foresees the extranet
By Nick Wingfield
September 20, 1996, 3:15 p.m. PT
SAN FRANCISCO--Extranets, or intranets linked together via a wide area
network, may very well be the next big thing in corporate use of Internet
technology, according to Marc Andreessen, Netscape Communications' (NSCP)
senior vice president of technology. "In most cases, [an extranet] is a secure
IP connection over a leased line," Andreessen said in his keynote remarks at
the Online Developers III conference here. "In some cases, it's a secure
connection over the Internet itself."
However, there is an obstacle standing before the development of extranets, he
said. As more and more sensitive business data travels over the Net, U.S.
export restrictions on strong cryptography technology may prove an impediment.
"This brings the issue of exportable cryptography
to a head."
He added that a future version of Navigator will also boost the security of
Net phone calls by encrypting voice packets as they stream across the
Internet, a feature that might cause concern among governmental security
agencies. "If anything is going to get anyone's underwear in a bunch over
cryptography, this is it." Andreessen said.
Like other companies, Netscape has found that profits in the consumer market
are elusive and has turned increasingly to the corporate market, which is
using Net technology to build intranets, and maybe soon extranets, Andreessen
noted.
Analysts at the conference said today that Netscape's recent, intense focus on
the corporate marketplace represented by intranets and extranets has been
prompted in part by Microsoft's entry into the Internet market.
"Netscape has been forced into nonconsumer markets and now noncomputer devices
by the overwhelming onslaught of Microsoft," said Adam Schoenfeld, vice
president of Jupiter Communications, a market research firm that's hosting the
conference. "Microsoft has ensured that there will be very little revenue in
the consumer market by giving their browser away for free."
Netscape wants to reach consumers through nonPC devices, a category in which
Microsoft has shown limited interest. Netscape has high hopes that consumer
dollars will eventually augment its bread-and-butter corporate revenue. Last
month, the company created Navio Communications, a spin-off business that will
develop browser software for video game machines, network computers (NCs), and
other low-cost consumer devices.
That's why after talking about the spread of extranets, Andreessen also took
the time to remind the audience that Netscape has not forgotten its consumer
base. He highlighted a number of emerging technologies, including NCs,
Internet telephones, and the increasing bandwidth that will lure more
consumers and innovation onto the Internet in the coming years.
Copyright ę 1996 CNET Inc. All rights reserved.
mreze.274snemcev,
Može li neko da mi odgovori na sledeća dva pitanja kojima je zajedničko
jedno veliko ZAŠTO?
U pitanju su dva računara (Pentium 133 i 486 120) vezana u mrežu. Na
Pentiumu je CD i štampač. Pentium treba da vidi diskove 486, a 486 da
vidi diskove Pentiuma, koristi štampač i CD. Sve ovo radi u kombinaciji
Warp na Pentiumu, W95 na 486, ali...
No 1: Warp "vidi" duga imena iz W95, ali nikako sa prompta (DOS ili
OS/2, sve jedno, najobičniji dir vraća samo prvu stavku iz
direktorijuma) ili iz DOS programa, već samo iz OS/2 programa
(npr. File Commander). Ako sa prompta na Pentiumu direktno zadam
komandu tipa XCOPY sa 486 na lokalni disk, sve prođe glat, ali se
dir i dalje isto ponaša. Zašto? (Ako sa 486 "gledam" ili kopiram
sa Pentiuma, sve se normalno izvrši i sve se normalno "vidi")
No 2: Probe radi, stavio sam i na jednu i na drugu mašinu W4WG 3.11; sve
fercera, osim što se sa 486 ne vidi CD ni pod tačkom razno,
tačnije, W4WG uspostavi vezu, a bez obzira ima li disk u CDu ili
nema, da li je disk da podacima ili muzički, W4WG ponavlja nešto u
stilu "no files found". Zašto? (Ako je na Pentiumu dignut OS/2,
sve se normalno "vidi")
Nije da mi život zavisi od odgovora, ali voleo bih da ga čujem.
mreze.275spantic,
-> #270, miroslavn> Postoji vise racunara vezanih u Window-s mrezu (NetBEUi), sto sa
> win311 sto sa w95. Na jednom od njih je instaliran brz modem (33.6k),
> a kasnije bi mozda isla i linija da provajdera. Pogadjate gde je
Zavisi pod kojim OSom je računar sa modemom. Dok je linija
dial-up preporučujem neki od proxy servera za Windows 95
(Sesemes ili slično). Kasnije preporučujem da angažujete
konsultanta ili da stvar prepustite svom ISPu.
mreze.276sljubisic,
-> #270, miroslavn
>Postoji vise racunara vezanih u Window-s mrezu (NetBEUi), sto sa
>win311 sto sa w95. Na jednom od njih je instaliran brz modem (33.6k),
>a kasnije bi mozda isla i linija da provajdera. Pogadjate gde je
>problem. Kako da, kad se taj racunar veze za provejdera (za sada
>modemom) ,da svi mogu koristeci Netscape ili sl. da pristupaju
>internetu....?
Potreban ti je program koji se zove Wingate (ili neki slican) kojeg
ima i ovde na Sezamu, kojim jednu masinu pretvoris u 'gateway' za
Internet, a to je ono sto upravo tebi treba.
Sasvim lepo upotrebljivo za mreze manjeg obima, i za one koje imaju
nekog da razresi situacije kada se modem zaglupi i sl., ali ako se
ide na neko sistemsko resenje, 'fabricki' ruter je daleko bolje res-
enje iako se na pocetku moze uciniti preskupim.
mreze.277nenad,
-> #274, snemcev> No 1: Warp "vidi" duga imena iz W95, ali nikako sa prompta (DOS ili
> OS/2, sve jedno, najobičniji dir vraća samo prvu stavku iz
> direktorijuma) ili iz DOS programa, već samo iz OS/2 programa
Za DOS task je ok i drugačije ponašanje se ne može očekivati -
Warp-ova emulacija DOS-a nema podršku za duga imena fajlova.
Jedan od mogućih razloga što se i u OS/2 promptu 'dir' tako
ponaša (vidi imena fajlova kao kratka) je što CMD.EXE drugačije
prikazuje imena fajlova na FAT particji, a drugačije na HPFS
particiji. Pretpostavljam da Warp ima informaciju da je Win95
mašina na FAT-u i da zbog toga prikazuje kratka imena. Ne znam
koliko je ova pretpostavka osnovana, ali mogu da probam
ovih dana tu kombinaciju pa ako ustanovim da je nešto drugo
razlog (i eventualno način da se prevaziđe) da javim. :)
> No 2: Probe radi, stavio sam i na jednu i na drugu mašinu W4WG 3.11; sve
> fercera, osim što se sa 486 ne vidi CD ni pod tačkom razno,
Osim ako razlog nisu loši drajveri, razlog može da bude i to što
nedostaje /s parametar u liniji u kojoj se poziva MSCDEX.
mreze.278orlic,
Jedno pitanjce, ne bas skroz za ovu konferenciju...
Da li je moguce da preko w95 dial-up-a pozovem drugu masinu i preko te
masine pozovem provajdera i surfujem... naravo da je ta masina sa dva modema i
dve linije... :)
mreze.279mikis,
-> #278, orlic+> Da li je moguce da preko w95 dial-up-a pozovem drugu masinu i preko
+> te masine pozovem provajdera i surfujem... naravo da je ta masina sa
+> dva modema i dve linije... :)
Trebalo bi da može, s tim da na drugoj mašini instaliraš neki
proxu/gateway softver, npr. onaj WinGate iz windows\com direktorijuma (fajl
wg1314.zip).
mreze.280snemcev,
-> #277, nenad>> Jedan od mogućih razloga što se i u OS/2 promptu 'dir' tako
>> ponaša (vidi imena fajlova kao kratka)
Pazi, ne ponaša se TAKO. Na dir odgovori tako što ispiše SAMO naziv prve
datoteke iz direktorijuma, a ostale nazive ne ispiše. Inače, sve
datoteke u direktorijumu imaju standardna DOS imena po sistemu 8+3. Ako
zadam nešto poput XCOPY G: . onda se sve datoteke bez problema
iskopiraju.
>> koliko je ova pretpostavka osnovana, ali mogu da probam
>> ovih dana tu kombinaciju pa ako ustanovim da je nešto drugo
>> razlog (i eventualno način da se prevaziđe) da javim. :)
Ako imaš vremena, probaj -- baš bih voleo da čujem tvoja iskustva.
>> Osim ako razlog nisu loši drajveri, razlog može da bude i to što
>> nedostaje /s parametar u liniji u kojoj se poziva MSCDEX.
U MSCDEX linije je bio parametar /s, znači ostaje samo loš drajver.
mreze.281inforts,
Conf:PCOS.6» dir
Teme u konferenciji PCOS.6:
1. ms.dos 153, novih 20
2. windows 472, novih 29
3. os2 359, novih 23
4. unix 310, novih 10
5. 4dos 23, novih 11
6. win95 1426, novih 117
7. mreze 274, nema novih <<<<<<<<<
8. os_wars 151, novih 7
9. razno 39, novih 1
10. winnt 169, novih 36
Conf:PCOS.6»
Ovo pokazuje da je tema "mreze" potpuno zamrla. Možda su sezamovci
sve naučili ili je ova tema izašla iz mode ?
mreze.282dkaralic,
Kakva izbor pear to pear mreže za 2 DOS korisnika predlažete.
Radim sa "velikim Novellom", ali bih voleo da mi kažete kakva je situacija sa
Novell Light 1.0 i Lantastic. Ovo prvo sam čak video i deluje mi interesanto.
Korisnici koji bi ovo koristili trebalo bi da imaju nešto u stilu da svaki od
njih vidi disk onog drugog kao npr. D: i da se može pristupiti aplikaciji na
drugoj mašini, naravno ako ona to omogućuje. Da li to omogućuje Novell Light.
Voleo bih da mi se javi neko ko već koristi Light za dodatne kratke
informacije.
Dragan Karalić
mreze.283sljubisic,
-> #282, dkaralic>Radim sa "velikim Novellom", ali bih voleo da mi kazete kakva je situacija
>sa Novell Light 1.0 i Lantastic. Ovo prvo sam cak video i deluje mi inte-
>resanto.
I Novell Lite i Lantastic ti omogucavaju da mapiras disk onog drugo racu-
nara i mozes po njemu pisati, sa njega citati podatke ili izvrsavati apli-
kacije kao da je jedan od lokalnih. Naravno, to ne mora uvek biti bas ele-
gantno resenje pre svega po pitanju brzine, pogotovo ako se i aplikacija
startuje sa udeljenog racunara, jer je propusna moc mreze tolika kolika je
i ne moze se nesto mnogo povecati. Sa Fast Ethernetom je situacija bitno
drugacija, ali opet, sumnjam da bi se isplatila za jednu takvu konfigura-
ciju racunara kakvu pominjes.
Ja ti ipak preporucujem Lanastic pre svega jer lepo koegzistira i sa Windo-
wsima (iako radi pod DOS-om), lak je za 'administriranje' a i cini mi se
da zauzima manje (RAM) memorije nego Novell Lite.
mreze.284spantic,
-> #282, dkaralic> Novell Light 1.0 i Lantastic. Ovo prvo sam čak video i deluje mi
Lantastic je sjajan izbor za DOS P-to-P mreže.
mreze.285spantic,
-> #282, dkaralic> Novell Light 1.0 i Lantastic. Ovo prvo sam čak video i deluje mi
Lantastic je sjajan izbor za DOS P-to-P mreže.
mreze.286nenad,
Netscape embraces the intranet with new servers, groupware
bundles
NEW YORK -- Netscape Communications Corp. on Tuesday unveiled
its intranet strategy for the corporate intranet market here
with an expanded version of its Navigator browser, an upgraded
server suite, and new client software that focuses on email,
groupware, and calendaring.
The Mountain View, Calif.-based company's new client and
server packages, due to hit the market during the first
quarter of 1997, add a number of Internet-friendly groupware
functions to its existing browser and Web server products.
These new functions broaden Netscape's offerings to include
alternatives to Lotus Development Corp.'s Notes and Microsoft
Corp.'s Exchange lines.
New Netscape servers included in the SuiteSpot 3.0 integrated
server suite will be Messaging Server 3.0, Collabra Server
3.0, Enterprise Server 3.0, Proxy Server 2.5, Calendar Server
1.0, and Media Server 1.0. Also in the SuiteSpot 3.0 package
are the recently released Directory 1.0, Certificate 1.0,
Catalog 1.0, and LiveWire Pro 1.0.
On the client side, Netscape unveiled Communicator,
integrating five component applications including the
Navigator 4.0 browser, Composer HTML authoring tool, Messenger
email, Collabra group discussion software, and Conference
real-time collaboration software.
Netscape also unveiled Communicator Professional Edition,
which includes a calendar scheduling package, and AutoAdmin, a
centralized user management package for IS administrators.
By heavily increasing the functionality of its client
software, Netscape hopes that users will no longer have to
leave its programs to get their jobs done.
"This is a full suite of products that will lead and define
the third generation of the Internet," said Jim Barksdale,
Netscape's president and CEO who joined the press conference
here via satellite from London. "The browser is just the
beginning."
Enhancing its client software to do much more than just
browsing better arms Netscape to compete head-to-head with the
likes of Lotus's Notes, said an analyst.
"It was said that Netscape has been competing with Notes since
the opening day; people have been predicting the death of
Notes," said Eric Brown, senior analyst of Forrester Research
Inc.'s software strategy service in Cambridge, Mass. "Netscape
is staying that strategy of connecting people with people.
They will do very very well against Notes, but this is not the
end of the Lotus division at IBM."
Central to Netscape's 1997 strategy is Communicator, the
company's new client offering that will include Navigator 4.0
-- and also replace it.
A common tool bar appears in each module, as does a unified
Web-like interface, so that users can move between the
programs without necessarily realizing it, said Marc
Andreessen, Netscape's senior vice president of technology.
This offering, called Communicator Standard Edition, will be
priced at $49 per user. A Professional Edition will also be
offered, which will include all the elements of the Standard
Edition plus Netscape Calendar group scheduling software and
an administration pack for $79 per user.
Communicator will run on Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows NT,
MacOS, and Unix.
At the backend, Netscape will release SuiteSpot 3.0 during the
same time frame of early 1997. This collection of ten Web
servers corresponds to features in Communicator. SuiteSpot 3.0
will be available for Unix implementations and Windows NT. Any
five of the nine servers plus Netscape's LiveWire Pro
development environment will cost $3,995; each server can be
purchased individually at $995.
While Netscape is pitching its new client and server offerings
together as a low-cost alternative to Notes and Microsoft's
BackOffice suite of server applications, the company also said
that all of its technology is based on Internet standards and
therefore can work with other client or server software that
implements the same standards.
Netscape on Tuesday also unveiled an interoperability strategy
dubbed "embrace and integrate," which intentionally or not
pokes fun at competitor Microsoft's "embrace and extend"
Internet strategy revealed last year.
The new strategy is based on the principle of integrating with
Microsoft products and technologies, including the Windows
platform, Windows NT System Services, SQL Server and OLE, COM,
ActiveX, Office, and BackOffice.
Specifically, Andreessen said that Navigator 4.0 will work
with OLE and COM, and will support certain aspects of ActiveX,
such as components built in Visual Basic. Future versions of
the software will work completely with Microsoft's component
integration technology, he said.
mreze.287nenad,
Tivoli's TME 10 to enter prime time in December
Tivoli Systems Inc.'s solution for managing the mainframe
down to the desktop, TME 10 Global Enterprise Manager
(GEM), will be available in December. The open
standards-based product is designed to break previous
platform barriers and provide a unified distributed
management solution. Prior to its merger with IBM, Tivoli
had focused on managing distributed systems. Its parent
company was primarily focused on the mainframe. GEM has two
key functional components, an Applications Policy Manager
and Management Integration Services. The policy manager
enables management at the business application level, and
recognizes the relationships between applications across
various platforms. The Management Integration Services
provide the ability to manage S/390 and distributed
environments as one system by enabling the sharing of data
and integration of key management processes. Pricing and
licensing will either be a one time charge for customers or
an extension to existing S/390 enterprise software
agreements. The GEM console runs on Unix, Windows NT, or
OS/2.
mreze.288nenad,
PictureTel debuts set-top videoconferencing system
PictureTel Corp. is staking a claim to some new territory
within the videoconferencing market with the launch of a
small portable system designed to bring video
communications to remote offices and mobile users. The
Andover, Mass.-based company has launched SwiftSite, a
10-pound product that falls outside its group and
desktop-based systems, to serve a middle market which
includes field workers, franchises, remote offices, and
small businesses. The SwiftSite portable videoconferencing
unit is ready for set-up in any remote location equipped
with a television monitor featuring standard RCA audio and
video jacks, as well as access to an ISDN line. The compact
system, weighing in at less than ten pounds, is a one-piece
design featuring fully integrated microphone, camera, and
video and audio compression components. A three-step
installation process and a few cable attachments conclude
the system set up, and the unit can then be controlled with
the QuickPad wireless infrared remote control, standard
with each system. SwiftSite comes fully bundled with
software, but further updates are available for download
from PictureTel's on-site software server. The system is
H.320 compliant, with a frame relay rate of 15 frames per
second and data transfer of 128 Kbps. The product will
begin shipping on Oct.15, listed at $8,995.
mreze.289nenad,
Big Blue negotiates with Novell to offer NDS for AIX
IBM, in a major coup for Novell Inc., has confirmed plans to
offer Novell Directory Services (NDS) on the AIX Unix platform
by June 1997.
IBM is negotiating a license for Novell's Cross-Platform
Services technology, the first step in porting NDS and other
NetWare services such as file, print, and security to AIX.
A formal agreement is expected this fall, said Barry Hutt, IBM
product manager for network services and collaboration in the
RISC System/6000 AIX group in Austin, Texas.
NDS support on AIX would provide a unified network directory,
offering a single point of administration and log-in for users
in mixed AIX and NetWare environments, Hutt said.
Both the IPX and IP network packet protocols and the
Lightweight Directory Access Protocol are expected to be
supported by the product, Hutt said.
The revelation comes at a time when Novell is boosting efforts
to get its NDS technology adopted by other companies to create
a de facto standard for enterprise network directories.
Caldera Inc. has announced support of NDS and Novell
networking services for its Linux platform in 1997. Oracle
Corp. will support NDS in its object-computing framework,
called the Network Computing Architecture, enabling NDS to be
used for storing object references.
Novell officials also hinted at an upcoming announcement to
make NDS a "universal directory."
Novell previously discussed plans to make NDS a
nonplatform-specific "meta directory" that could manage
multiple messaging systems and databases, as well as other
directories.
An administrator at an AIX and NetWare user site said it will
be beneficial to get NDS on as many platforms as possible.
"Right now, we know we've got 12 log-ins for the average
administrator on campus," said Steve Berry, director of
information services at the University of California, in San
Francisco.
Porting NDS to the various platforms on campus would reduce
the number to a single network log-in, Berry said.
The porting of NDS to other platforms, such as SunSoft Inc.'s
Solaris and Digital Equipment Corp.'s Unix and VMS, has yet to
be realized.
The Santa Cruz Operation Inc., which markets a version of Unix
for Intel-based platforms, already supports NDS.
Hewlett-Packard Co. plans to do so in January with its
NetWare/9000.
Novell is also planning to develop a Windows NT version of
NDS, which is expected to ship in 1997.
mreze.290nenad,
Netscape's groupware offering threatens Lotus, Microsoft
NEW YORK -- Because it will be cross-platform, based on
accepted Internet standards, and relatively cheap, Netscape
Communications Corp.'s client/server groupware offering
announced Tuesday stands a good chance of snatching market
share away from Lotus Development Corp. and Microsoft Corp.,
industry analysts said.
Netscape's Communicator groupware client software and
corresponding SuiteSpot 3.0 server modules will offer a less
complicated -- albeit less functional -- alternative to Lotus
Notes, analysts said. See Netscape embraces the intranet with
new servers, groupware bundles.
Corporations looking for groupware functions but hesitant to
go with Notes because of its proprietary nature, high level of
complexity, and steep costs most likely will be attracted to
the Netscape alternative, analysts said.
"This is Notes for the rest of the world," said Timothy
Sloane, director of Aberdeen Group's messaging applications
research, in Boston. "Positioning it as a Notes killer is
inappropriate; this is not a tightly integrated, rolled-out
solution. ... It can't do the high-end groupware. But from the
departmental level, this is much more compelling than Notes
could ever be."
Netscape's Tuesday demonstration of Communicator -- its
forthcoming integrated client package that will include
Navigator 4.0, Composer HTML authoring software, Messenger
Web-enriched e-mail, Collabra group discussion, and Conference
real-time collaboration software -- did not show great
technology breakthroughs in the groupware arena. What it will
do, however, is replace the Navigator software used by about
80 percent of browser users with a whole lot more
functionality.
"They're not really forging any new ground," said Ian
Campbell, an analyst with International Data Corp. [IDC],
based in Framingham, Mass., adding that it will, nonetheless,
help Netscape catch up with Lotus in the groupware market.
IDC on Tuesday released a study claiming that Netscape's
customers who have intranets are realizing a return on their
investment of more than 1,000 percent.
Attempting to demonstrate the savings that Netscape's products
will offer, company Vice President of Technology Marc
Andreessen said that an installation of SuiteSpot 3.0 for a
company with 500 users will cost $28,950, whereas a similar
installation of Notes would cost $139,795. Communicator and
SuiteSpot 3.0 will be available during the first quarter of
1997.
The tight integration between Netscape's products and the
Internet will also give it a leg up over the competition,
analysts said.
"In groupware, Lotus is more functional, but Netscape is more
integrated with the Internet," said David Smith, research
director with Gartner Group Inc.'s Internet strategies, in
Stamford, Conn. "There will be more and more integration with
the Internet, and Netscape is leading the way there."
With an announcement of Netscape's intention to "embrace and
integrate" competitor Microsoft's technologies, Netscape's
groupware offering may fare better than Microsoft's Exchange
and BackOffice products with customers that have
cross-platform strategies, analysts said.
Since the company's inception, Netscape's strategy has been to
base its products on accepted Internet standards and to enable
them to work with as many operating systems, networks, and
databases as possible.
Tuesday's announcement that it will also integrate tightly
with Microsoft technologies such as Windows NT, Component
Object Model (COM), Distributed COM, and ActiveX could mean
that customers wanting the best Windows products that also go
cross-platform will look to Netscape, Aberdeen's Sloane said.
"[Netscape's groupware offering] offers similar functionality
[to BackOffice] and will embrace Windows NT, but also other
platforms," Sloane said. "It is highly differentiated from
Microsoft's product because it [will be] open and available on
different platforms."
mreze.291mikis,
- novo -
windows\net\tcp\*.*
------------------
wp1_3b.zip 139k ű WinProxy 1.3 beta: proxy server/firewall za Win 95/NT
WinProxy 1.3 beta
Without key limited to use of two users working at
the same time and cache size to 1 Magabyte.
Copyright (c) 1996 Martin Viktora
Martin Rubas
WinProxy is a proxy-server / firewall supporting following protocols :
- HTTP
- GOPHER
- FTP
- SSL (HTTPS)
- Telnet
- NNTP
- SMTP
- POP3
- SOCKS
Requirements:
1) Windows 95 or Windows NT.
2) Properly configured TCP/IP on computers you want to use WinProxy from
and computer running WinProxy.
It runs as a normal process, and/or as a service under Windows NT.
After installation WinProxy should be able to run as a proxy server.
To try it, set proxy in your browser to the host running WinProxy. The
port number is 3128.
!! Configuration is now performed through forms of web interface. Its address
!! is http://host:3129/admin where host is the computer running WinProxy
mreze.292mikis,
Za sve koje interesuje sigurnost na mrežama - jedan "White paper"
skinut sa 3COM-ovovg site-a: "Internet Firewalls and Security", autor Chuck
Semeria. U .PDF (Adobe Acrobat) formatu.
3comsec.zipmreze.293ognjen,
-> #292, mikis)-> Semeria. U .PDF (Adobe Acrobat) formatu.
Uf. :( Da li može neki čitljiviji format?
mreze.294mikis,
-> #293, ognjen+> Uf. :( Da li može neki čitljiviji format?
Može, imam isto to skinuto u HTML obliku, ali zahteva male modifikacije (u
smislu ispravljanja putanja do slika), a i malo je falično (fale dve slike
koje ne postoje ni 3COM sajtu). Poslaću ga čim to sredim, ali u svakom slučaju
preporučujem da skinete Acrobat Reader, koji postaje de facto standard za
dokumentaciju u elektronskom obliku. Imam još nekoliko dokumenata koji se bave
ovom problematikom, poslaću ih čim ih pronađem :) Takođe su u PDF-u.
mreze.295vlad,
Koji mrezni OS se lepo slaze sa Win95?
Imam dve masine (286/16/Herc i Pentium/100/sve_po_spisku) koje bih hteo da
umrezim u neku kulturnu peer2peer mrezu tako da 286 lepo radi pod cistim
DOS-om, a blencijum da vozi 95. Ethernet kartice i kablazu imam, a sve to
lepo radi sa Lantastic-om 6.0, samo sto se isti ne da integrisati pod
Win95. Imam i Netware Lite 1.1, ali njega jos nisam smogao snage da probam.
Any suggestions?
mreze.296sobrenovic,
-> #295, vlad>>> Koji mrezni OS se lepo slaze sa Win95?
U Win95 savrseno funkcionise podrska za kompletnu Novell
familiju (ukljucujuci i peer-to-peer varijante). Pokusaj
Novell DOS ili nesto slicno.
mreze.297mikis,
-> #295, vlad+> lepo radi sa Lantastic-om 6.0, samo sto se isti ne da integrisati
+> pod Win95. Imam i Netware Lite 1.1, ali njega jos nisam smogao snage
+> da probam.
Ako se ne varam, izašla je i verzija Lantastica prilagođena 95-ici (pa
čak i Lantastic Server :) Raspitaj se kod obližnjeg "dilera" ;) Što se NW
Lite-a tiče, bolje odmah odustani, njega je još teže naterati da radi pod
95-icom. Ako baš hoćeš Novell, probaj Personal Netware (ili pomenuti Novell
DOS koji čine DOS+PNW).
mreze.298vlad,
-> #296, sobrenovic
> U Win95 savrseno funkcionise podrska za kompletnu Novell
> familiju (ukljucujuci i peer-to-peer varijante). Pokusaj
> Novell DOS ili nesto slicno.
Pokusao sa Personal Netware i prosao neslavno, i pored pazljivog pracenja
uputstva iz PC #7 B((. Resenje se trazi i dalje...
mreze.299vlad,
-> #298, vlad> Pokusao sa Personal Netware i prosao neslavno, i pored pazljivog
> pracenja uputstva iz PC #7 B((. Resenje se trazi i dalje...
Stvar je konacno odradjena (10x to nenad) sa "MS network client for MS
DOS". Resenje se prirodno uklapa u sistem, a cak je i komunikacija brza
nego sa Lantastic-om. Mane su sto 286-ica ne moze da bude i server (to mi i
nije preterano vazno), i sto je klijent malo alav na memoriju (kao da nisu
i ostali B(). Kad nagazim Lantastic za 95-icu probacu i njega, a dotle ce
ovo savrseno da zadovoljava potrebe.
Zahvaljenje i ostalima koji su pomogli da dodjem do resenja.
mreze.300spantic,
-> #298, vlad> Pokusao sa Personal Netware i prosao neslavno, i pored pazljivog pracenja
> uputstva iz PC #7 B((. Resenje se trazi i dalje...
A zašto ne probaš Microsoft Network?
mreze.301vlad,
-> #300, spantic> A zašto ne probaš Microsoft Network?
Kao sto sam izvestio, klijent za MS network je odradio posao sasvim
korektno & konforno. Sutra treba da dobijem i Lantastic klijent za Win95,
pa cu probati i njega ako mi druga masina pre toga ne ode musteriji.
mreze.302borisb,
-> #299, vlad> i ostali B(). Kad nagazim Lantastic za 95-icu probacu i njega, a
Evo šaljem ti nešto na tu temu, ako budeš probao javi kako radi, i
mene zanima.
w95-lant.zipmreze.303vlad,
-> #302, borisb> Evo šaljem ti nešto na tu temu, ako budeš probao javi kako radi, i
> mene zanima.
Izgleda da mi ne gine zesce zamlacivanje sa P2P mrezama i klijentima, mada
priznajem da mi nece tesko pasti B). Ovo zamorce ide musteriji, al' ce
odma' da sklapam novo, makar i "u vazduhu". Hvala, javicu kad isprobam.
mreze.304nenad,
-> #297, mikis> Ako se ne varam, izašla je i verzija Lantastica prilagođena 95-ici (pa
> čak i Lantastic Server :)
A ako se ja ne varam, Lantastic Server nije ništa drugo nego
licencirani Novel Netware server.
mreze.305jlazor,
U mrezi su mi dva servera, jedan novell 3.11 i jedan novell 3.12. Na
drugom novelu imam potrebu da povecam particiju, medzutim novell ne
dozvoljava izmenu paricije ( velicine ). Na koji nacin mogu da to
sredim. Na oba servera su isti korisnici i direktorijumi....Moze li
se sa jednog servera na drugi prekopirati ceo volumen ili uraditi
nesto slicno. Poenta je napraviti duplikat servera posto jedan izlazi
iz mreze a na drugom je mala particija.
Unapred hvala Julijan
mreze.306dulev,
-> #305, jlazor> U mrezi su mi dva servera, jedan novell 3.11 i jedan novell 3.12. Na
> drugom novelu imam potrebu da povecam particiju, medzutim novell ne
> dozvoljava izmenu paricije ( velicine ). Na koji nacin mogu da to
> sredim. Na oba servera su isti korisnici i direktorijumi....Moze li
> se sa jednog servera na drugi prekopirati ceo volumen ili uraditi
> nesto slicno. Poenta je napraviti duplikat servera posto jedan izlazi
> iz mreze a na drugom je mala particija.
Pomalo konfuzno si opisao problem. Ostaje nejasno, sta je cilj, tj.
kakva mreza (koji Novell), sa koliko servera treba na kraju da
ostane, na konto cega se povecava Novell particija (neiskoristen
prostor na disku?)...
Samo povecavanje Novell particije (ako ima mesta na disku), je
destruktivna operacija i povlaci za sobom brisanje stare, pa tek
onda kreiranje nove (vece).
Sto se tice kopiranja sadrzaja jednog servera na drugi, to nije
veliki problem. Na jednom od servera, umapira se volumen (F:)
drugoga i sa ncopy, NC-om, xcopy,... iskopira sadrzaj.
Problem predstavlja ako treba kopirati prava, posto Novell to
nedozvoljava sa obicnim programima za kopiranje. Jedno resenje je,
da se napravi backup sa bindfix, iskopiraju *.old fajlovi i na novom
volumenu odradi obrnut proces, ili (bolja varijanta) sa nbackup
napraviti kompletan backup volumena (zajedno sa pravima).
Ako ti je ovo gore dovoljno da obavis posao - odlicno.
Ako nije, probaj onda malo preciznije da opises problem, pa ce se
moci i konkretnije odgovoriti.
(dv)