mreze.507vlad,
-> #503, petrovics> datoteci SHELL.CFG:
>
> FILE HANDLES=xxx
Ako si namerio da to setujes za sve radne stanice ipak jos jednom
pogledaj Help (nfolio). Jednom od SET komandi u autoexec.ncf to
sigurno moze da se podesi, samo se ni ja bez helpa ne secam koja
je.
mreze.508dr.grba,
-> #504, sbrk>> hteo da napiše šta je potrebno, onako sve po redu. Pretpostavljam da
>> trebaju neke mrežne kartice (koje?), thin ethernet kabl, terminatori, ili
>> možda ima neki drugi način povezivanja (verovatno ću povezati i treći
>> kompjuter) i onda kako treba instalirati Windowse, itd.
Treba ti osnovna infrastruktura mreže, dakle mrežne karte, kablovi,
terminatori. Klasično ožičavanje. Ništa posebno čak i ako si neiskusan, mada
je savet iskusne osobe poželjan: podešavanje bazne adrese, IRQ. Ovo ne bi
smelo da bude problem.
Treba potom "doinstalirati" radnu grupu. Trebaju ti instalacione diskete
WfWG kojim si već odradio instalaciju. Kroz Win Setup program najpre
definiši postojanje karte, pa protokola... Kad kreneš, vidiš da je sve na
gomili, pa se ni ne propušta. (:
Naknadno dodavanje treće mašine zahteva samo definisanje opcije, imenovanje
računara; imenovanje radne grupe identično sa imenom već definisane radne
grupe. Posao koji amater u hardveru/mrežnom softveru može da obavi sam, po
mom mišljenju (ako sam ja uspeo iz cuga, onda može svako (((: )
>> Hteo sam prvo da omogućim mail i chat, i onda bi instalirao Lotus
>> Organizer.
Automatski dobijaš WinPopup, Chat i još par servisa, naravno ono glavno je
podela diskova, direktorijuma, datoteka, štampača. Za Mail aplikaciju jedan
od računara radne grupe mora preuzeti svojstvo Mail servera, jer je
struktura servisa dosta složena. No, nije problem: sve imaš što ti je
potrebno (više diska! više diska!)...
>> Da li je dovoljno imati W4Wg da bi mreža funkcionisala, ili treba podići i
>> neki drugi mrežni OS (Novell Lite, Lantastic...)?
Ovo je samo opcija.
mreze.509whitie,
-> #506, ndragan1-> ndragan, 26.03.95. 12:03, 46 chr
2-> petrovics, 25.03.Sub 15:53
3-> NGUIDE.ART
2-> datoteci SHELL.CFG:
1-> Da ne bese net.cfg?
3-> Every workstations in Novell Netware network will have available 40 file
handles by default WITHOUT giving any specification. If there is
requirement for more it's needed to place request for it in NET.CFG (or
SHELL.CFG) file. SHELL.CFG is _old_ used name which is replaced by
NET.CFG in last days. Command to place in there is FILE HANDLES=<m> and
it will assure ability to open maximum of <m> files FROM NETWORK.
### Vidi ovo ###
3-> IMPORTANT NOTE. Files allocated in CONFIG.SYS by FILES=<n> and files
allocated from network by FILE HANDLES=<m> are INDEPENDENT from each
other. <n>+<m> MAY NOT exceed 254 and in old versions of Netware Shell
(NETX) it will NOT give any warning when this is happening and will
allocate just default (40 or even less). New netware Shell is giving
warning and refusing to load when <n>+<m> is over 254.
<n>+<m> is also NUMBER OF FILES AVAILABLE for OPEN _AT_ workstation,
but <n> is talking about LOCAL FILES and <m> about NETWORK FILES (files
from network). This fact can also affect CLipper application with F<x>
setting by the way (that's why F255 is most nice solution also). From
this comment is also coming out one other warning, NUL device which is
using file handle when opened more times is using ALWAYS local file
handle and not Netware file handle when used for testing number of file
handles available for opening.
### Inace... 3.11 nije ogranicio broj otvorenih fajlova, ali je taj broj ogra-
nicen memorijom na serveru. 2.02 je ogranicen na 255 fajlova ali ima caka
da se taj problem prevazidje ( QEMM ).
Preporucujem gorecitirani NGUIDE.ART i ako ne radite na kliperu.
Poruka je mozda trebala da bude adresirana na 7.503 petrovics.
mreze.510petrovics,
>> Neke verzije NETX.COM ne umeju to da pronadju pa treba prethodno
>> preci u katalog u kome se nalaze. Mozda je to?
Upravo je to bio razlog :). Puno ti hvala!
Nije mi palo na pamet da problem moze da bude tako trivijalan.
mreze.511petrovics,
>> / datoteci SHELL.CFG:
>>
>> Da ne bese net.cfg?
Koliko ja znam NET.CFG koristi LSL.COM.
mreze.512petrovics,
>> > datoteci SHELL.CFG:
>> >
>> > FILE HANDLES=xxx
>>
>> Ako si namerio da to setujes za sve radne stanice ipak jos jednom
>> pogledaj Help (nfolio). Jednom od SET komandi u autoexec.ncf to
>> sigurno moze da se podesi, samo se ni ja bez helpa ne secam koja
>> je.
Kao sto sam napisao problem sam resio sa SHELL.CFG ali sam
pogledao i SET-ove. Koliko sam primetio tu se definisu samo
maksimalne dozvoljene vrednosti za broj otvorenih fajlova,
zakljucanih fajlova, zakljucanih slogova...
Nisam primetio da sa SET moze da se podesi koliko maksimalno
fajlova moze da otvori svaka radna stanica po difoltu (difolt je
izgleda 40 fajlova).
mreze.513makica,
-> #510, petrovics>>> Neke verzije NETX.com ne umeju...
>>> preci u katalog u kome se nalaze.
>> Upravo je to bio razlog...
Molim te da malo pojasnis stvar. Koji katalog? Onaj u kome je NETX ili SHELL?
Ja imam stanice sa BOOT Rom om pa me zanima da li NED$DOS.SYS zna da pronadje
SHELL.CFG, ili i on mora da se WSGEN-uje.
B)ojan.
mreze.514fancy,
Ima li nekoga ko bi mi dao pointer na neki text o LANTASTIC..?
Hitno je potrebno jednoj prijateljici, so gentlemani, pokažite se.
mreze.515vlad,
-> #512, petrovics> Nisam primetio da sa SET moze da se podesi koliko maksimalno
> fajlova moze da otvori svaka radna stanica po difoltu (difolt je
Sasma je moguce da sam se ja malkice zabunio B). Tih SET-ova ima
toliko da mi se cinilo neverovatnim da nema te opcije.
mreze.516spantic,
Subject: Novell Utility, bin, part 1/3
JRBUTILS v2.20
JRButils v2.20 comprises 54 utilities for managing Novell
networks. This collection of utilities is in two parts:
(1) Part A contains the 30 utilities which are available on
the Internet in JRB220A.ZIP. Read CHANGES.TXT for details
of new features and bug fixes.
(2) Part B comprises 24 new utilities in JRB220B.ZIP. They
are available from the author upon payment of a
registration fee, and are described in the accompanying
document JRB220B.TXT.
All 54 utilities run under NW 2.1x, 2.2 and 3.x. They have
undergone limited testing using the VLM's and under NW 4.01
bindery emulation. All problems discovered during testing have
been fixed, but it should be noted that no attempt has (yet)
been made to make them NW 4.x aware e.g. CREATOBJ will create
a mail directory and place the login script within it, whereas
under 4.x, the login script is stored in a property of the
user. The next release will be NW 4.x aware and will
incorporate support for Netware Directory Services (NDS).
Summary of Utilities
The utilities in this release are as follows. 'A' or 'B'
indicates whether they are in JRB220A or JRB220B.
ACCEXP Warns of impending account expiration (A)
BINDCLOS Closes the bindery (A)
BINDOPEN Opens the bindery (A)
CHKHOME For use with David Harris' SETHOME utility (A)
CON_OPS Lists, adds, or deletes console operators (B)
CREATOBJ Creates bindery objects en masse (A)
DELOBJ Deletes bindery objects en masse (A)
DISABLE Disables logins (A)
DOWNSRVR Downs a file server (A)
DQUOTA Displays quota, space used, space available for a
single user (A)
ENABLE Enables logins (A)
FSUPDATE Copies, deletes or renames files across multiple servers.
GETREST Displays account, time and station restrictions for
multiple users (A)
GETBAL Displays account balances and credit limits en masse
(B)
GETEQUIV Displays security equivalences, lists who is
equivalent to who (A)
GETQUOTA Displays quotas, space used, space available for
multiple users (A)
GRPADD Adds users to groups (A)
GRPDEL Removes users from groups (A)
GRPLIST Lists the members of a group, or all users on the
server (A)
JRBMAP Enhanced version of Novell's MAP utility (B)
JRBPURGE Enhanced version of Novell's PURGE utility (B)
KILLCONN Clears connections from a file server (A)
LASTLGN Display the previous login time in a login script (B)
LISTOBJ Lists bindery objects of any type (A)
MAKEMEMB Makes a user a member of one or more groups (A)
MGRADD Adds managed users to a user account manager or work
group manager (B)
MGRDEL Removes managed users from a user account manager or
work group manager (B)
MGRLIST Lists managers and their managed users (B)
MOVEUSER Copies users from one server to another (B)
NETCOPY Copies a directory tree preserving attributes,
ownership, trustee assignments, directory quotas (B)
PQADD Assigns operators or users to a print queue (B)
PQDEL Removes operators or users from a print queue (B)
PQDELJOB Deletes one or more jobs from a print queue (B)
PQLIST Lists jobs in one or more print queues (B)
PQSTATUS Displays the status of one or print queues across one or
more servers, allows changing of queue status (B)
PQUSERS Lists operators or users for one or more print
queues (B)
PSADD Assigns operators or users to a print server (B)
PSDEL Removes operators or users from a print server (B)
PSUSERS Lists operators or users for one or more print
servers (B)
PWDEXP Warns of impending password expiration (A)
RENOBJ Renames bindery objects (A)
SALVLIST Lists deleted files in one or more directories (B)
SETREST Sets account, time and station restrictions en masse
(A)
SETBAL Sets account balances and credit limits en masse (B)
SETEQUIV Sets security equivalences (B)
SETHOME2 Sets the HOME_DIR bindery property for multiple users (A)
SETNAME Sets the full name for user, groups, printservers
(A)
SETOWNER Sets file ownership en masse (A)
SETPWORD Sets passwords en masse (A)
SETQUOTA Sets disk/volume/directory quotas en masse (A)
TRSTLIST Lists trustees for users, groups, files, directories
(A)
USERGRPS Lists the groups belonged to for one or more users
(A)
USERS Lists users logged in to one or more servers (A)
USERMGRS Lists the managers of one or more users (B)
jrb220a.arjmreze.517spantic,
Subject: Novell Utility, bin, part 2/3
jrb220a.a01
jrb220a.a01mreze.518spantic,
Subject: Novell Utility, bin, part 3/3
jrb220a.a02
jrb220a.a02mreze.519d.petrovic,
-> #506, ndragan> / datoteci SHELL.CFG:
>
> Da ne beše net.cfg?
LSL, IPXODI, ... - Net.Cfg
Ipx, Netx ... - Shell.Cfg
Rešenje je (verovatno) u tome da se pozicionira u direktorijum gde se
taj fajl nalazi.
Shell.Cfg koriste i IPX i NETX, ali (mislim) liniju FILE HANDLES=xxx
koristi samo NETX
I.. kako meni ljudi nedavno ovde objasniše:
Zbir fajlova iz Config.Sys i Shell.Cfg ne sme da pređe 255
mreze.520zzk.,
Unesreci me nevjerovatna nepaznja:
Bekap traka na kojoj sam imao godisnje podatke nekoliko firmi,
obrisana je (ne pitajte zasto imam samo jednu). :(
Radi se JUMBO bekap sistemu (250 MB).
Na traku je trebalo da se snime jos neki podaci i zbog prijavljenog
nedostatka prostora sistem inzenjer je odlucio da je obrise. Kaze da
je upotrijebio QUICK, a ne SECURITY Erase.
Nakon brisanja poceo je snimanje podataka za koje mu je prostor falio,
ali je to prekinuto u dosta ranoj fazi, tako da sada uvid u direktorij
prijavljuje da je traka prazna (obrisana).
Ima li nade za ovu jadnicu ?