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auto-moto.105 darth.vader, -> #104, swix
>> Lola se povukla iz Formule 1 :))))) >> Bas su se navozali trka. :) :)))) Pa i bilo je vreme ;)
auto-moto.106 baker, -> #100, vpoznanovic
> Saturday Free Practice > > 13:00 CET 29th March 1997 > 14:15 CET 29th March 1997 > > Saturday Qualifying > > 17:00 CET 29th March 1997 > > Sunday Warmup > > 13:30 CET 30th March 1997 > > Sunday Race > > 18:00 CET 30th March 1997 Imali nesto od ovoga na nasoj televiziji (uzivo ili snimak) ? Ako ima kad i gde ? ..
auto-moto.107 vpoznanovic,
F1: Brazilian GP Friday 1st practice Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:17.506 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:17.829 0.323 0.323 3. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:18.000 0.171 0.494 4. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:18.261 0.261 0.755 5. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:18.437 0.176 0.931 6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:18.479 0.042 0.973 7. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:18.488 0.009 0.982 8. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.818 0.330 1.312 9. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:18.978 0.160 1.472 10. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.271 0.293 1.765 11. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:19.326 0.055 1.820 12. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:19.408 0.082 1.902 13. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:19.456 0.048 1.950 14. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:19.573 0.117 2.067 15. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:19.613 0.040 2.107 16. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:19.963 0.350 2.457 17. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:20.076 0.113 2.570 18. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:20.520 0.444 3.014 19. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:20.521 0.001 3.015 20. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:20.787 0.266 3.281 21. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:21.120 0.333 3.614 22. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:21.864 0.744 4.358 107% of fastest time: 1:22.931
auto-moto.108 vpoznanovic, -> #106, baker
>> Imali nesto od ovoga na nasoj televiziji (uzivo ili snimak) ? >> >> Ako ima kad i gde ? Kvalifikacije možda u Sportskom miksu Trećeg kanala u 18:00. U toku dana očekujemo i zvaničnu najavu prenosa trke na 3K. Za sada je u njihovom sutrašnjem programu nema.
auto-moto.109 obren,
Rezultati kvalifikacija za V.N. Brazila (29. mart 1997.) 1. Villeneuve 2. M. Schumacher 3. Berger 4. Hakkinen 5. Panis 6. Alesi 7. Fisichela 8. Frentzen 9. Hill 10. R. Schumacher 11. Barichello 12. Coulthard ...
auto-moto.110 vpoznanovic, -> #109, obren
>> Rezultati kvalifikacija za V.N. Brazila (29. mart 1997.) Da upotpunimo: :) F1: Brazilian GP Saturday Qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:16.004 2. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:16.594 0.590 0.590 3. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:16.644 0.050 0.640 4. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.692 0.048 0.688 5. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:16.756 0.064 0.752 6. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:16.757 0.001 0.753 7. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:16.912 0.155 0.908 8. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:16.924 0.012 0.920 9. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:17.090 0.166 1.086 10. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:17.175 0.085 1.171 11. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:17.259 0.084 1.255 12. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.262 0.003 1.258 13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:17.409 0.147 1.405 14. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:17.527 0.118 1.523 15. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:17.999 0.472 1.995 16. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:18.095 0.096 2.091 17. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:18.336 0.241 2.332 18. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:18.557 0.221 2.553 19. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:18.644 0.087 2.640 20. Jan Magnussen BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:18.773 0.129 2.769 21. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:19.221 0.448 3.217 22. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:19.274 0.053 3.270 107% of fastest time: 1:21.324
auto-moto.111 vpoznanovic,
F1: Brazilian GP Saturday Free Practice Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:16.030 2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.205 0.175 0.175 3. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:16.517 0.312 0.487 4. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:16.588 0.071 0.558 5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:16.611 0.023 0.581 6. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:16.720 0.109 0.690 7. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.820 0.100 0.790 8. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:16.833 0.013 0.803 9. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:17.148 0.315 1.118 10. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:17.192 0.044 1.162 11. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:17.490 0.298 1.460 12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:17.587 0.097 1.557 13. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:17.635 0.048 1.605 14. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:17.795 0.160 1.765 15. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:17.934 0.139 1.904 16. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:18.043 0.109 2.013 17. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:18.069 0.026 2.039 18. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:18.161 0.092 2.131 19. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:18.283 0.122 2.253 20. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:18.316 0.033 2.286 21. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:18.473 0.157 2.443 22. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:18.630 0.157 2.600 107% of fastest time: 1:21.352
auto-moto.112 dejarak,
Postovani ljubitelji Formule 1, imam malu molbicu za prave statisticare. Posto sam pravio tabelu za proslu sezonu, ukljucujuci pozicije posle treninga i trke sve to uobliceno bodovima, pred kraj sam izgubio strpljenje i volju i promakle su mi poslednje 4 trke da zapisem pozicije posle kvalifikacija. Zato molim urednog statisticara ako moze da mi ostavi rezultate treninga sa poslednje 4 trke, a kao nagradu SVI cete dobiti uredno sredjenu tabelu u Excel-u. Unapred se zahvaljujem i sve Vas pozdravljam Dejan
auto-moto.113 darth.vader,
Ej ljudi, jel ima neko (ili mozda zna gde moze da se nabavi) sliku ovogodisnjeg McLarenovog bolida ? :) Darth
auto-moto.114 obren,
Poredak na kraju trke za V.N. Brazila (30. mart 1997) 1. Villeneuve 2. Berger 3. Panis 4. Hakkinen 5. Schumacher 6. Alesi ... Prvo postolje ove godine za Prost-Mugen! :)
auto-moto.115 obren, -> #112, dejarak
> Posto sam pravio tabelu za proslu sezonu, ukljucujuci pozicije posle > treninga i trke sve to uobliceno bodovima, pred kraj sam izgubio > strpljenje i volju i promakle su mi poslednje 4 trke da zapisem pozicije > posle kvalifikacija. U ovoj temi (ali i u starom tomu sporta) su prilično redovno ostavljani izveštaji, tako da vredi malo potražiti. U slučaju da neki ipak fale, na Internetu postoji kompletna baza podataka iz prethodne sezone, na adresi: http://www.monaco.mc/f1 (Gale Force F1)
auto-moto.116 obren, -> #113, darth.vader
> Ej ljudi, jel ima neko (ili mozda zna gde moze da se nabavi) sliku > ovogodisnjeg McLarenovog bolida ? :) Vidi na: www.mclaren.co.uk, www.worldserver.pipex.com/mclaren
auto-moto.117 vector, -> #114, obren
Odlicna trka. :) Kakav je to start bio. Sumaher i Vilnev. Jedan do drugog; Vilnev uz pomoc malog "slide"-a (i Sumahera ;) izlece u prvoj krivini. U istom trenutku jos oko 5-10 bolida izlece sa staze ili udara u druge bolide i dolazi do prekida trke koji traje nekih 15tak minuta. :) Nastavak trke. Fantastican start Sumahera (citaj: ocajan start Vilneva ;) koji dolazi na kratko na celnu poziciju ;), ali ga Vilnev vec na kraju prvog kruga obilazi. Za nekih 4-6 krugova to isto cini i Gerhard Berger, koji je sve vreme fantasticno vozio (po meni i najbolje od svih) ... ... Na kraju trke, izuzetno napeto. Berger polako sustize Vilneva sa nekih 13 sekundi razlike na oko 4-5 sekundi, medjutim ne uspeva da ga i pretekne zbog zaostalih bolida (citaj: Coulthard ;) koji su ga samo usporavali. Hakkinen, Sumaher i Alezi. Borba za 4, 5 i 6 poziciju. Svi u 2,5 sekunde. Hakkinen se polako odaljava i ostaju Sumaher i Alezi. Razlika 0,8 sekundi. Alezi, na moju zalost, ne uspeva da pretekne "Weltmeister" Sumahera :)) (tako ga Nemci zovu) i mora da se zadovolji sa samo jednim bodom ... Ukratko, ko nije gledao trku, gadno se ispalio ... :) PS. Steta za Hila. ;)
auto-moto.118 baker, -> #117, vector
> Ukratko, ko nije gledao trku, gadno se ispalio ... :) Mislis ko nije gledao RTL . Je*em ti zemlju i Televiziju koja nemoze da obezbedi ni snimak, a kamoli prenos trke. Puj. ..
auto-moto.119 baker,
Williams-ova nadmoc postaje dosadna i monotona.
auto-moto.120 mmilosh, -> #41, swix
> To znachi da je mali deo kolacha ostao za EuroSport koji je > onda (najverovatnije) odlucio da ove godine popularishe bivshi > IndyCar sadashnji Kart P.P.G. a da Formulu1 batali :((( Xmmm meni se čini da mi je brat rekao da je gledao na EuroSportu kvalifikacije i trke ove sezone, ali izgleda da je ipak to gledao na RTL.
auto-moto.121 mmilosh, -> #40, darth.vader
> Mclaren sa novim bojama ima UBEDLJIVO NAJLEPSI BOLID. To stoji svakako.
auto-moto.122 mmilosh, -> #46, space.ace
> da uzme Marlboro za partnera zbog njega... Doduže, čovek vozi > super, I konstruktora novog (tj. starog).
auto-moto.123 mmilosh, -> #48, darth.vader
> a kamoli da pobedi. :( Al je jednom pobedo baš na svoj rođendan ako se ne varam.
auto-moto.124 vpoznanovic,
F1: Brazilian GP Sunday warmup Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:17.421s 2. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.642s 0.221 0.221 3. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:17.800s 0.158 0.379 4. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:17.843s 0.043 0.422 5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:17.866s 0.023 0.445 6. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:17.973s 0.107 0.552 7. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:18.034s 0.061 0.613 8. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.313s 0.279 0.892 9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:18.316s 0.003 0.895 10. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:18.358s 0.042 0.937 11. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:18.563s 0.205 1.142 12. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:18.630s 0.067 1.209 13. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:18.743s 0.113 1.322 14. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:18.879s 0.136 1.458 15. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:19.088s 0.209 1.667 16. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:19.102s 0.014 1.681 17. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:19.218s 0.116 1.797 18. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:19.282s 0.064 1.861 19. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:19.401s 0.119 1.980 20. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:19.406s 0.005 1.985 21. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:19.664s 0.258 2.243 22. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:19.690s 0.026 2.269 107% of fastest time: 1:22.840
auto-moto.125 vpoznanovic,
F1: Brazilian GP results Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:36:9.990 2. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault +4.190 3. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen +15.870 4. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes +33.030 5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari +33.730 6. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault +34.020 7. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas +50.910 8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot +1:00.640 9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault +1:15.400 10. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes -1 lap 11. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas -1 lap 12. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart -1 lap 13. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 -1 lap 14. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen -1 lap 15. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 -2 laps 16. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari -2 laps Oil fire 17. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha -3 laps 18. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart -5 laps DNF Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot on lap 52 DNF Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 on lap 16 DNF Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha on lap 15 DNF Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 on lap 0 Electrics
auto-moto.126 vpoznanovic,
F1: Brazilian GP report At the start Villeneuve made a tardy start, allowing Schumacher to take the lead. Following Villeneuve were Berger, Panis, and Hakkinen. It was all for nothing as Magnussen was stranded on the grid and unable to be moved. Also Villeneuve took a excursion off the track as Schumacher took him at the first corner. The German had gone in the inside of the first corner and clearly had the corner. He Canadian should have conceded defeat, but didn't and it almost cost him the race. Also caught up in the drama was a Jordan which launched Damon Hills Arrows at the same corner. Further round the circuit Barrichello was a victim of Irvine. The race was black flagged. For Magnussen his race was over - both Stewarts were out, and Barrichello had priority at this race for the spare car. Another possible out was Hill. His race car was already out before the race with an oil leak. The spare now needed a new nose and new rear suspension. Amazingly the team changed the suspension at the back in time for the restart (a total of little over 10 minutes!). Irvine also needed a new car, which was set up for Schumacher. This would cause problems later. Frentzen also took to the spare car. The second start went almost without drama, as Villeneuve got away well but Schumacher did it better and took the lead for a moment. Hakkinen also made a blistering start and attacked Villeneuve, but didn't quite manage it. Katayama was stranded on the grid. Already the front two cars were pulling away, with Villeneuve having the advantage over Schumacher. By lap 2 Hill had already made up two places to 7th, and Villeneuve had made a 1.1 second gap over Schumacher. Hakkinen in third was a further 1.5 seconds adrift, followed by Berger, Alesi, and Panis. Frentzen was down in 12th place. Larini was also making progress, taking Trulli for 16th. By lap 6 Villeneuve had a 4 second lead over Schumacher. Berger, meanwhile, had caught up with the leading group, and was challenging hard for Schumachers place. He took it briefly, but the German soon took it back. Berger was not going to give up without a fight. Frentzen had now made up a place and was running 11th. By lap 8 Villeneuve was pulling away from Schumacher and had an 7.7 second cussion. Further back Diniz took Irvine for 14th place. By lap 11 the lead was 10.3 seconds, and Schumacher was clearly holding up Berger who could challenge for the lead. Berger finally managed it on lap 12 on the main straight, where the Benetton had a clear advantage over the Ferrari. Berger was soon chasing hard after Villeneuve. Further down the grid Diniz retired from 15th place, as Barrichello pulled into the pits to retire the sole Stewart. Herbert was also in the pits - too early for a routine stop - and Frentzen was making ground on Fisichella in 9th place. By lap 20 Villeneuve had a 9 second lead over Berger, with Schumacher, Hakkinen, Alesi, and Panis completing the top 6. Herbert, now near the back of the field, took Verstappen. Coulthard, who had been pushing Hill hard for 7th place, pitted early presumably to try and take him in the pits. He rejoined the race in clear air, but 14th place. Berger was soon also to pit, as did Alesi and Irvine. By lap 25 the positions were Villeneuve, Schumacher (+23 seconds), Panis (+27 seconds), Berger (+37 seconds), Hakkinen (+44 seconds), and Ralf Schumacher (+46 seconds). Fisichella was next to pit on lap 26, with Villeneuve pitting and Schumacher entering as the Canadian had left. Villeneuve was able to rejoin in the lead, with a 1.3 second lead over Panis, Berger, Hill, Frentzen and Hakkinen. The Goodyear tyres were not wearing well, and the Bridgestones of Hill and Panis were working very well - so well that they were able to get by with a 1 stop strategy later on against Goodyear's 2. On lap 28 Frentzen pitted and got away, if rather untidily. By lap 31 the Bridgestone runners were preparing for their only stop, and the tyres were performing very well, with Panis setting very good times just before his stop. Panis finally pitted on lap 33. On lap 33, Irvine was back in the pits and having his seatbelts refastened. Lap 36 saw the order of Villeneuve, Berger, Hakkinen, Hill, Schumacher, Alesi, Panis, Herbert, Coulthard, Ralf Schumacher, Frentzen and Fisichella. Hill was fending off Schumacher and Alesi, but was due to stop. Unfortunately the Englishman decided to fight them for another lap, they got by and cost Damon a chance of being further up the field later on. On lap 37 Hill pitted. On lap 40 bizarely Hakkinen pitted. Ralf Schumacher had also pitted, and was having a lengthy stop after a problem with the right rear wheel. The order was now Villeneuve, Berger, Schumacher, Alesi, Panis, and Herbert. Coulthard was now also in for his second stop, soon to be followed by the rest of the Goodyear runners in the following laps. Villeneuve was struggling at the point, unable to lap Coulthard, and losing time rapidly to the advancing Berger. Williams were ready in the pits, and Villeneuve pitted. Schumacher similarly was in and out. Berger now had the lead, but still had to stop. Villeneuve rejoined the race in second place. Alesi also joined in the pit action, allowing Panis to move up to 3rd. Berger extended his lead over Villeneuve to 18 seconds, but this was not enough to retain the lead when he pitted. Villeneuve was now back into the lead. Frentzen made his second stop. The order on lap 49 was now Villeneuve, Berger, Panis, Hakkinen, Schumacher and Alesi. The top 6 were followed by Frentzen, Herbert, Fisichella, Hill, Coulthard and Ralf Schumacher. The latter was soon to retire at the start of the pit entry lane. The race now settled down with no great drama other than hot looking brakes on Villeneuve's Williams, and Berger having a go at chasing for the lead. On lap 67 Berger was 4 seconds adrift, but had to get by Katayama and Verstappen to have a chance of going for the leader. On lap 69 Berger got past and 4 laps to go to get the victory he wanted. Villeneuve was now the one caught up in traffic, but a courteous Coulthard let him through. Sadly Hill's valiant drive was over as he pulled into the pits with an oil fire. The rest stayed settled on the track. The disappointment of the race however had to be Frentzen's unspectacular drive to 9th place.
auto-moto.127 vpoznanovic,
F1: Standings after Brazilian GP Drivers' Championship: Pos Driver Nat Constructor Points ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 10 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 10 3. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 9 4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 8 5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 7 6. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 6 7. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1 8. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1 Constructors' Championship: Pos Constructor Nat Points ---------------------------------------------- 1. McLaren-Mercedes GB 17 2. Williams-Renault I 10 3. Benetton-Renault I 10 4. Ferrari I 8 5. Prost-Mugen F 6 6. Sauber-Petronas CH 1
auto-moto.128 vpoznanovic, -> #112, dejarak
>> Zato molim urednog statisticara ako moze da mi ostavi rezultate treninga >> sa poslednje 4 trke Može, može, kako ne bi mogao. Ako ti treba još nešto, samo viči. :) F1: Belgian GP Saturday qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:50.574 2. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:50.980 0.406 0.406 3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:51.778 0.798 1.204 4. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:51.884 0.106 1.310 5. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:51.960 0.076 1.386 6. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:52.318 0.358 1.744 7. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:52.354 0.036 1.780 8. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot 1:52.977 0.623 2.403 9. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:53.043 0.066 2.469 10. Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot 1:53.152 0.109 2.578 11. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford 1:53.199 0.047 2.625 12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford 1:53.993 0.794 3.419 13. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:54.095 0.102 3.521 14. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen 1:54.220 0.125 3.646 15. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen 1:54.700 0.480 4.126 16. Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart 1:55.150 0.450 4.576 17. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:55.371 0.221 4.797 18. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart 1:56.286 0.915 5.712 19. Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED 1:56.830 0.544 6.256 20. Giovanni Lavaggi I Minardi-Ford ED 1:58.579 1.749 8.005 107% of fastest time: 1:58.314 F1: Italian GP Saturday qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:24.204 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:24.521 0.317 0.317 3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:24.781 0.260 0.577 4. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.939 0.158 0.735 5. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.976 0.037 0.772 6. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:25.201 0.225 0.997 7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:25.226 0.025 1.022 8. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:25.470 0.244 1.266 9. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot 1:26.037 0.567 1.833 10. Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot 1:26.194 0.157 1.990 11. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen 1:26.206 0.012 2.002 12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford 1:26.345 0.139 2.141 13. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford 1:26.505 0.160 2.301 14. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen 1:26.726 0.221 2.522 15. Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart 1:27.270 0.544 3.066 16. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:28.234 0.964 4.030 17. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:28.472 0.238 4.268 18. Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED 1:28.933 0.461 4.729 19. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart 1:29.181 0.248 4.977 20. Giovanni Lavaggi I Minardi-Ford ED 1:29.833 0.652 5.629 107% of fastest time: 1:30.098 F1: Portuguese GP Saturday qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:20.330 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:20.339 0.009 0.009 3. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:21.088 0.749 0.758 4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:21.236 0.148 0.906 5. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:21.293 0.057 0.963 6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:21.362 0.069 1.032 7. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.640 0.278 1.310 8. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.066 0.426 1.736 9. Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot 1:22.205 0.139 1.875 10. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot 1:22.324 0.119 1.994 11. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford 1:22.325 0.001 1.995 12. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford 1:22.655 0.330 2.325 13. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:22.765 0.110 2.435 14. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:23.013 0.248 2.683 15. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen 1:23.055 0.042 2.725 16. Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart 1:23.531 0.476 3.201 17. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart 1:24.230 0.699 3.900 18. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen 1:24.293 0.063 3.963 19. Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED 1:24.510 0.217 4.180 20. Giovanni Lavaggi I Minardi-Ford ED 1:25.612 1.102 5.282 107% of fastest time: 1:25.953 F1: Japanese GP Saturday qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:38.909 2. Damon Hill GB Williams-Renault 1:39.370 0.461 0.461 3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:40.071 0.701 1.162 4. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:40.364 0.293 1.455 5. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.458 0.094 1.549 6. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:41.005 0.547 2.096 7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Sauber-Ford 1:41.277 0.272 2.368 8. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.384 0.107 2.475 9. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:41.562 0.178 2.653 10. Martin Brundle GB Jordan-Peugeot 1:41.600 0.038 2.691 11. Rubens Barrichello BR Jordan-Peugeot 1:41.919 0.319 3.010 12. Olivier Panis F Ligier-Mugen 1:42.206 0.287 3.297 13. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Ford 1:42.658 0.452 3.749 14. Ukyo Katayama J Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:42.711 0.053 3.802 15. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Yamaha 1:42.840 0.129 3.931 16. Pedro Diniz BR Ligier-Mugen 1:43.196 0.356 4.287 17. Jos Verstappen NL Arrows-Hart 1:43.383 0.187 4.474 18. Pedro Lamy P Minardi-Ford ED 1:44.874 1.491 5.965 19. Ricardo Rosset BR Arrows-Hart 1:45.412 0.538 6.503 20. Giovanni Lavaggi I Minardi-Ford ED 1:46.795 1.383 7.886 107% of fastest time: 1:45.833
auto-moto.129 darth.vader, -> #118, baker
>> Je*em ti zemlju i Televiziju koja nemoze da obezbedi ni snimak, a >> kamoli prenos trke. Puj. Takodje...
auto-moto.130 darth.vader, -> #123, mmilosh
>> Al je jednom pobedo bas na svoj rodendan ako se ne varam. Jeste... Mnogo se usrecio sa 1 pobedom za ne znam ni ja koliko godina u Formuli 1... Ma baxuz je covek...
auto-moto.131 swix, -> #112, dejarak
> Postovani ljubitelji Formule 1, > imam malu molbicu za prave statisticare. Posto sam pravio tabelu za proslu > sezonu, ukljucujuci pozicije posle treninga i trke sve to uobliceno > bodovima, pred kraj sam izgubio strpljenje i volju i promakle su mi > poslednje 4 trke da zapisem pozicije posle kvalifikacija. Zato molim > urednog statisticara ako moze da mi ostavi rezultate treninga sa poslednje > 4 trke, a kao nagradu SVI cete dobiti > uredno sredjenu tabelu u Excel-u. > Unapred se zahvaljujem i sve Vas pozdravljam > Dejan U ovome može ti pomogne ili InterNet ili neko ko podatke skida sa istog (postoji, barem, jedan takav na sezu :) I požuri :)
auto-moto.132 swix, -> #108, vpoznanovic
> Kvalifikacije mozda u Sportskom miksu Treceg kanala u 18:00. U toku > dana ocekujemo i zvanicnu najavu prenosa trke na 3K. Za sada je u > njihovom sutrasnjem programu nema. Nije bilo ni najave, ni Formule :(((((((((
auto-moto.133 swix, -> #123, mmilosh
-=> Al je jednom pobedo baš na svoj rođendan ako se ne varam. Pretprošle godine na Velikoj nagradi Kanade na svoj 31 rođendan. :)
auto-moto.134 swix, -> #120, mmilosh
-=> Xmmm meni se čini da mi je brat rekao da je gledao na EuroSportu -=> kvalifikacije i trke ove sezone, ali izgleda da je ipak to gledao na RTL. Nije na EuroSportu sigurno.
auto-moto.135 dejarak, -> #128, vpoznanovic
> Moze, moze, kako ne bi mogao. Ako ti treba jos nesto, samo vici. :) Hvala ti majstore! To je bas to sto mi je trebalo, tako da sam zavrsio tabelu.
auto-moto.136 dejarak,
Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima Formule 1! Evo je vec pomenuta tabela koja je radjena u Excel-u pa ko je zainteresovan neka pogleda. Nadam se da ce Vam koristiti i lepo se zabavljajte. Sve primedbe i zamerke prihvatam:). Pozdrav od Dejana. formula1.zip
auto-moto.137 schef, -> #118, baker
][ Je*em ti zemlju i Televiziju koja nemoze da obezbedi ni ][ snimak, a kamoli prenos trke. Puj. Eh. :) Ko vam je kriv što ne živite u Kragujevcu. :))) Mi sve to lepo gledamo... Uz komentar na srpskom, naravno. ;>
auto-moto.138 vpoznanovic,
F1: Brazilian GP winners' press conference JV Oh it feels great mostly after Melbourne where we had been so strong and we couldn't even go any further than the first lap and it looked like it was going to be the same thing here, so it's a good thing there was a red flag. I'm not sure why there was a red flag but then after that the car was very strong. We didn't have enough downforce for the slow corners but we were pretty good down the straight so it balanced out. The car was really strong until the second pit stop and then somehow the tyres had less grip. I don't know why but the car was quick enough to stay in front. Q What happened on that first start, can you tell us some more about that? JV Yeah, it was a little bit more slippery on the outside and I didn't want to give in to Michael. That's about it, so I went into the corner a little bit too fast. Q Now on the second start Michael beat you to the first corner again, but then you seemed to be very successful getting back to him? JV Yeah, we could see from the trap speed this morning that they were a little bit slower down the straight and we took the start with new tyres, so I knew that on the first two laps if he got in front of me I would have a good chance to get by him. Q Towards the end of the end of the race after your second pit stop, were you aware that Gerhard was catching you? JV Yeah, most definitely, he was a little bit too fast towards the end and he was catching up pretty hard so it was tough to keep the gap. Q Gerhard, we last saw you on the podium at the British grand prix last year so you must be delighted to be here today? GB Well yeah. It was time again to come back here. Q Now you were catching Jacques towards the end. Did you think that you could actually get up to him and maybe make an attempt to pass him? GB Well yes, there was a stage where I think I could get to him but I know how difficult it would be to pass him because he's quite quick on the straight but I still drive very hard because I thought if I can be the last three or four laps under his gearbox maybe by mistake or by overlapping another car maybe I could have a chance but unfortunately it was quite difficult to overlap some backmarkers. Damon was quite difficult to overtake and two other ones. I saw Jacques lost a bit and I lost the same so I just couldn't do it. I had the same problem as Jacques on the second part of the race, with the second set of tyres suddenly in the middle of the part the tyre lost grip and I was struggling to do good lap times. Q You qualified third yesterday and finished second today does this mean Benetton is back on track? GB Well I think it's a bit like we show in the winter testing. After the first race of course everybody thought we maybe went underweight in the winter but we didn't. We just lost the first race by some mistakes in the setup on the Friday and Saturday and that's it. It's very easy at the moment to, if you lose a little bit away, you are not with the first three and that's it. Q Olivier, you won the Monaco grand prix last year but more importantly this is the first podium appearance for the Prost team and Bridgestone tyres so it's a great result for you and your team. OP Yes, I'm very happy because I make a very big risk for strategy - just one stop but I see the Bridgestone tyres, the wear is very, very nice and very easy to one stop. I started very good. It was very easy to follow Jean and Michael Schumacher with one stop and after stop it is very easy to control because it's never traffic and it's very easy to control the laps. I'm very happy for the team, and Bridgestone also, because for the first year it's a very good job.
auto-moto.139 ppecanac, -> #113, darth.vader
> Ej ljudi, jel ima neko (ili mozda zna gde moze da se nabavi) > sliku ovogodisnjeg McLarenovog bolida ? :) Evo je, sa promocije. 600x310 mclaren.jpg
auto-moto.140 ppecanac,
Slike iz Brazila od pre 2 dana. 1. zagrevanje, petak. Kultard D. 1000x650 brafri2a.jpg
auto-moto.141 ppecanac,
2. U pitu, Kultard D. 1000x650 brafri3a.jpg
auto-moto.142 ppecanac,
3. Okretanja na startu trke. 1000x650 brarac1.jpg
auto-moto.143 ppecanac,
4. Zadnja, sa trke. 600x390 brarace.jpg
auto-moto.144 darth.vader, -> #139, ppecanac
>> Evo je, sa promocije. >> 600x310 Thanks man :)
auto-moto.145 darth.vader, -> #140, ppecanac
>> Slike iz Brazila od pre 2 dana. >> 1. zagrevanje, petak. Kultard D. >> 1000x650 Odakle nabavljas slike ako nije tajna? :)
auto-moto.146 space.ace, -> #114, obren
>> 3. Panis >> Prvo postolje ove godine za Prost-Mugen! :) Momče, mogu ti reći da nisam gledao trku, ali mi se ovo Panis-ovo treće mesto čini malo nemoguće.. :) Šalamala naravno, svaka mu čas'...
auto-moto.147 swix, -> #137, schef
-=> Eh. :) Ko vam je kriv što ne živite u Kragujevcu. :))) -=> -=> Mi sve to lepo gledamo... Uz komentar na srpskom, naravno. ;> ?????????????????
auto-moto.148 ppecanac, -> #145, darth.vader
> Odakle nabavljas slike ako nije tajna? :) Ma kakvi tajna, www.mclaren.co.uk :)
auto-moto.149 nigy,
Izvinjavam se na digresiji ali sam u ovoj temi nasao podatak da McLaren kao i Ferrari ima 8 sampionskih titula u kategoriji konstruktora. Prema mojim podacima to nije tacno, pa bih molio da me doticni ispravi. Evo sta ja posedujem: Ferrari: '61.'64.'75.'76.'77.'79.'82.'83. Williams: '80.'81.'86.'87.'92.'93.'94.'96. McLaren: '74.'84.'85.'88.'89.'90.'91. Iz ovoga se izvlaci da po 8 imaju Ferrari i Williams, a McLaren 7 ;) Foza Italia!
auto-moto.150 obren, -> #146, space.ace
> Momče, mogu ti reći da nisam gledao trku, ali mi se ovo Panis-ovo > treće mesto čini malo nemoguće.. :) Šalamala naravno, svaka mu > čas'... Jel sad priznaješ da Panis nije "tupko" :) Samo se nadam da ovo nisu njegovi krajnji dometi ove sezone. Bridgestone gume su u kombinaciji sa Mugenovim motorom izgleda dobitna kombinacija, a tu je i Prost koji je izgleda preuzimanjem tima doneo potrebnu motivaciju koja je falila Ligieru prošle godine.
auto-moto.151 schef, -> #147, swix
][ -=> Eh. :) Ko vam je kriv što ne živite u Kragujevcu. :))) ][ -=> Mi sve to lepo gledamo... Uz komentar na srpskom, naravno. ][ ;> ][ ????????????????? Šta se čudiš? :) Mi u Kragujevcu imamo prenose svih važnijih sportskih događaja. Šta da vam radim kada nemate K9 i DTV. :) Mi smo gledali i Juventus - Ajaks i Zvezda - Barselona, sada i formulu... ;> Ko vam je kriv kada živite u zabiti. :)))))
auto-moto.152 darth.vader, -> #148, ppecanac
>> > Odakle nabavljas slike ako nije tajna? :) >> Ma kakvi tajna, www.mclaren.co.uk :) Iskljucivo mclaren.co.uk ili ima jos zanimljivih sajtova sa takvom tematikom ? :) See ya, Darth :)
auto-moto.153 swix, -> #150, obren
-=> -=> Jel sad priznaješ da Panis nije "tupko" :) Samo se nadam da ovo nisu -=> njegovi krajnji dometi ove sezone. Bridgestone gume su u kombinaciji -=> sa Mugenovim motorom izgleda dobitna kombinacija, a tu je i Prost -=> koji je izgleda preuzimanjem tima doneo potrebnu motivaciju koja je -=> falila Ligieru prošle godine. Sa kim sam se ja ono beše "svađo" oko Hondice ( eh da znate koliko je volim ;) i Panisa ????? Gde je sad da se javi :)
auto-moto.154 swix, -> #149, nigy
-=> -=> Izvinjavam se na digresiji ali sam u ovoj temi nasao podatak da McLaren -=> kao i Ferrari ima 8 sampionskih titula u kategoriji konstruktora. -=> Prema mojim podacima to nije tacno, pa bih molio da me doticni ispravi. -=> Evo sta ja posedujem: -=> -=> Ferrari: '61.'64.'75.'76.'77.'79.'82.'83. -=> -=> Williams: '80.'81.'86.'87.'92.'93.'94.'96. -=> -=> McLaren: '74.'84.'85.'88.'89.'90.'91. -=> -=> Iz ovoga se izvlaci da po 8 imaju Ferrari i Williams, a McLaren 7 ;) -=> -=> Foza Italia! Koliko se sećam ja bih trebao da budem "dotični". Ček da potražim moje podatke pa ću se javim. :)
auto-moto.155 space.ace, -> #150, obren
>> Jel sad priznaješ da Panis nije "tupko" :) Samo se nadam da ovo nisu Dobro, de, priznajem. Nije "tupko" :). U svakom slučaju, da nema talenta ne bi bio u Prost-ovom timu... Valjda "profesor" zna da prepozna dobrog vozača kad ga vidi... >> njegovi krajnji dometi ove sezone. Bridgestone gume su u kombinaciji >> sa Mugenovim motorom izgleda dobitna kombinacija, a tu je i Prost BridgeStone gume se, izgleda mi, pokazuju mnogo bolje od GoodYear, i mislim da treba samo sačekati kišicu pa da GoodYear ode na zasluženi odmor. Lično sam navijao da u Brazilu padne kiša (pošto ima običaj da padne baš oko trke), ali 'em što nisam gledao trku, 'em kiša nije pala.
auto-moto.156 dejarak,
Dragi prijatelji, evo svezih vesti koje cu pokusati da vam saljem svake nadelje posto ih ja dobijam jednom nedeljno. Uzivajte!!!:-). Dejan In This Issue *Villeneuve Off To Prost? *Alesi Back In The Good Books *Benetton / Honda Deal Expected Soon *Williams / BMW Rumour Back Again! *Bridgestone Warning Shot *BIC Deal For Prost *New Ford Engine *Brazil Review *Brazil Results *Drivers Championship *Constructors Championship Villeneuve Off To Prost? There is a rumour that Jacques Villeneuve may be in discussion with Prost for next year. Jacques manager Craig Pollack has been seen dining with Alain Prost. Prost run Bridgestone tyres and from next year they will have a works Peugeot engine. Both Peugeot and Bridgestone would be keen to see the World Champion in one of their teams and could help Prost fund the move. Jacques contract with Williams is up for renewal this year. Alesi Back In The Good Books Jean Alesi finally managed to finish a race, and in the points too. His performance was overshadowed by his team mate but he was steady and workman like. This has raised the Benetton teams view of the driver and hopefully his results will get better as the season progresses. The Benetton car is one of a few that improved greatly between Australia and Brazil. Benetton / Honda Deal Expected Soon The Benetton / Mugen Honda engine deal is expected to be announced soon. Benetton have been involved with Honda through motorcycle racing and it has long been expected that the Japanese giant would replace Renault when the current engine supply deal finished. Williams / BMW Rumour Back Again! You can't keep a good rumour down. Especially if it involves Williams and or BMW. The two companies have a long history of a rumoured engine deal, this time however there is a new twist. Williams have a two year contract with the French Mecachrome company to use Renault engines. These are expected to cost Williams around 20 Million for the duration. BMW are now rumoured to be in negotiation to pay some of the cost in return for BMW badges being put on the engines. The 2 year deal which will finish in 2000 just overlaps the rumoured BMW engine entry of 1999. Bridgestone Warning Shot The Bridgestone shod teams fired a warning shot at the Goodyear tyres this weekend. The Prost and Arrows teams are hardly top flight, yet Panis and Hill both managed to qualify in the top ten and due to the performance of the tyres both teams were able to run a one stop strategy. Panis drove brilliantly, running as high a second at one point, finally finishing third and Hill managed to run fourth for a while but retired with an engine bay fire. The circuits that are hard on tyres could see the Bridgestone teams performing better than expected. BIC Deal For Prost You may have noticed the BIC logo on the Prost cars last weekend, that is because the team have signed a four year deal with the disposable pen and razor company. New Ford Engine Tyrrell will be able to make use of the next evolution of the customer Ford Cosworth V8 from the San Marino GP. The unit has more power which will be welcome. Brazil Review Jacques Villeneuve came back from the disaster at Melbourne with a perfect win. Though at the start it looked as though he had blown it again. At the start Schumacher got away brilliantly and held the inside line into the first corner. Villeneuve desperately tried to hold onto the outside line but a combination of speed, cold tyres and being off the racing line saw him slide off the track onto the grass and gravel. He was followed by Frentzen and Hill who collided with the Jordan of Fisichella damaging his rear suspension and front wing. Villeneuve and Hill probably couldn't believe their luck when the race was red flagged due to the Stewart of Barrichello still being on the grid. At the restart, Schumacher beat Villeneuve to the first corner again, this time the Canadian let the Ferrari go and settled in behind it. Behind them, everyone managed to get round the first corner and Hakkinen led the chasing pack followed by Berger, Alesi, Panis, Hill and Coulthard, with Frentzen 13th. At the end of the first lap Villeneuve surged past the Ferrari of Schumacher and went into the lead, by lap 9 Berger had performed an almost identical pass to relegate the Ferrari to third place. Many of the teams tried to out think each other with pit stop strategy and in doing so they all came up with the same plan. This led to a scramble of stops as the McLaren and Benetton teams stopped almost at the same time. Williams held out until lap 25 for their first stop and the mid race order saw Villeneuve leading Panis with Berger, Hill, Hakkinen and Schumacher making up the rest of the top six. Panis and Hill had yet to stop, but both were on single stop strategies compared to the two stops that everyone else was making. After the second round of stops the race order had settled down, Villeneuve still led, but now Berger was back in second while Panis dropped to third after his stop. Hakkinen was fourth, Schumacher fifth and Alesi sixth. During the closing stages of the race it became clear that Gerhard Berger was closing on Villeneuve, gradually chipping away at the Canadian's lead, the end result though was that Berger ran out of time before he could close up on the Williams, too many back markers and not enough laps. Brazil Results 1 J. Villeneuve Williams Renault 1:36:06.990 2 G. Berger Benetton Renault + 4.190 3 O. Panis Prost Mugen Honda + 15.870 4 M. Hakkinen McLaren Mercedes + 33.033 5 M. Schumacher Ferrari + 33.731 6 J. Alesi Benetton Renault + 34.020 7 J. Herbert Sauber Petronas + 50.912 8 G. Fisichella Jordan Peugeot + 1:00.639 9 H.H. Frentzen Williams Renault + 1:15.402 10 D. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes + 1 lap 11 N. Larini Sauber Petronas + 1 lap 12 J. Trulli Minardi Hart + 1 lap 13 M. Salo Tyrrell Ford + 1 lap 14 S. Nakano Prost Mugen Honda + 1 lap 15 J. Verstappen Tyrrell Ford + 2 laps 16 E. Irvine Ferrari + 2 laps 17 D. Hill Arrows Yamaha + 4 Laps 18 U. Katayama Minardi Hart + 5 laps 19 R. Schumacher Jordan Peugeot + 20 laps 20 R. Barrichello Stewart Ford + 56 laps 21 P. Diniz Arrows Yamaha + 57 laps 22 J. Magnussen Stewart Ford DNS Drivers Championship 1 D. Coulthard McLaren MP4/12 Mercedes 10 1 J. Villeneuve Williams FW19 Renault 10 3 G. Berger Benetton B197 Renault 9 4 M. Schumacher Ferrari F310b 8 5 M. Hakkinen McLaren MP4/12 Mercedes 7 6 O. Panis Prost Mugen Honda 6 7 N. Larini Sauber C16 Petronas 1 7 J. Alesi Benetton B197 Renault 1 Constructors Championship 1 McLaren Mercedes 17 2 Williams Renault 10 2 Benetton Renault 10 4 Ferrari 8 5 Prost Mugen Honda 6 6 Sauber Petronas 1
auto-moto.157 giovanni,
U današnjim novinama piše da RTS neće prenositi trke formule 1 jer nemaju da plate 85.000 USD (140.000 DEM) za celu sezonu. Dakle, ne mogu da skupe oko 8.500 DEM po trci od reklama za vreme trke iako se zna da su cene njihovog reklamnog prostora užasno visoke. Za nas bez satelitskih antena ove godine nema formule 1. :~(
auto-moto.158 stukelj, -> #157, giovanni
> U danasnjim novinama pise da RTS nece prenositi trke formule 1 jer nemaju RTL RULES !
auto-moto.159 nigy, -> #157, giovanni
> U danasnjim novinama pise da RTS nece prenositi trke formule 1 jer nemaju >da plate 85.000 USD (140.000 DEM) za celu sezonu. Dakle, ne mogu da skupe >oko 8.500 DEM po trci od reklama za vreme trke iako se zna da su cene >njihovog reklamnog prostora uzasno visoke. Pobijes g**na i gotova stvar!!! ;< P.S. Ima li neko predlog kao cemo mi smrtnici bez kablovske i satelitske da pratimo ovu sezonu? Konstruktivni predlozi dobrodosli! :)
auto-moto.160 darth.vader, -> #157, giovanni
>> U danasnjim novinama pise da RTS nece prenositi trke formule 1 jer nemaju >> da plate 85.000 USD (140.000 DEM) za celu sezonu. Dakle, ne mogu da skupe >> oko 8.500 DEM po trci od reklama za vreme trke iako se zna da su cene >> njihovog reklamnog prostora uzasno visoke. Za nas bez satelitskih antena >> ove godine nema formule 1. :~( E da im ja malo mater lopovsku... Darth
auto-moto.161 darth.vader, -> #159, nigy
>> P.S. Ima li neko predlog kao cemo mi smrtnici bez kablovske i satelitske >> da pratimo ovu sezonu? Konstruktivni predlozi dobrodosli! :) Bice da cu ja morati za svaku trku kod ortaka sa satelitskom... Predlazem isto ostalima koji imaju tu mogucnost...
auto-moto.162 stukelj,
Danas je u 6:00 po nasem vremenu odrzana druga trka Indy Car sampionata i to u Surfers Paradise. Pol poziciju je osvojio po sesti put zaredom (rekord) Alex Zanardi i to u poslednjim trenucima kvalifikacija ispred Pol Trejsija. U samoj trci bilo je cak 8 puta zuta zastava... Nije odvozeno svih 65 krugova posto se dostiglo punih 2 sata voznje tako da je trka zavrsena pre planiranih 65 krugova :) Samo da pomenem da je Christian Fittipaldi doziveo tezak udar u zid i kako Edvards rece, izgleda povredio nogu, tako da nece voziti trku sledece nedelje... Tokom trke vodila se borba izmedju Zanardija i Trejsija za prvo mesto. Iza njih su stalno bili, sa izvesnim zaostatkom, Moore i Vasser. Blundell je opet ocajno startovao i sve vreme se vukao negde oko desetog mesta... Inace koliko mi se cini sve vreme najbrzi bolid na stazi pored Trejsija i Zanardija je bio Scott Pruett. On se nalazio dugo iza Mauricija Gugelmina negde oko 6-7 mesta... Unser se ocajno kvalifikovao, cini mi se, na 16. mestu i tokom trke mu je otpao tocak (!). U vezi samog toka trke, na startu je Moore prestigao Vassera i zauzeo 3. poziciju, vec sam pomenuo da je Blundell jadno startovao... Trejsi i Zanardi su se brzo odvojili od ostatka vozaca i tokom cele trke niko nije mogao da ih prati. Trejsi je kasnije prestigao Zanardija i brzo se odvojio, ali, naravno, uskoro je bio neki sudar, tako da je pokazana zuta zastava i Zanardi mu je opet bio za petama... Tako je bilo non-stop, kad god bi doslo do nekog odvajanja vozaca, odmah se neko slupao i zuta zastava... Nekim cudom Andretti i Pruett su napredovali, iako je staza teska za prestizanje... Dolazimo do vrhunca staze, kada su se Trejsi i Zanardi slupali... ulazili su u krivinu i onaj mali pohlepnik od Zanardija nije hteo da pusti Trejsija (koji je bio sa unutrasnje strane), tako da su obojica izletela... Idiot od Zanardija se kasnije prikljucio u trku, na zadnjem mestu... Kad sam poceo da se radujem novoj pobedi Vassera, Gugelmin ga je slupao... Vasser je ipak uspeo da nastavi sa zadnje pozicije... I tako dolazimo do neverovatne pobede SCOTTA PRUETTA !! Bio je sve vreme veoma brz na stazi i dobro je vozio, ali je ipak imao dosta srece, sto su se slupali Zanardi, Trejsi, Vasser, Gugelmin... Drugi je bio Greg Moore, treci Andretti. Cetvrto mesto je osvojio, verovali ili ne, ALEX ZANARDI ! Sa zadnje pozicije uspeo je da se dokopa cetvrtog mesta. Jos da dodam da je i Vasser uspeo da se dokopa poena, bio je 12. sto znaci da je uzeo 1 poen. Sve u svemu, dobra trka i sa nestrpljenjem se ocekuje trka sledece nedelje, mislim da je u pitanju Long Beach... 1. Scott Pruett Ford 2. Greg Moore Mercedes 3. Michael Andretti Ford 4. Alex Zanardi Honda ... 12. Jimmy Vasser (kralj) Honda
auto-moto.163 schef, -> #159, nigy
][ P.S. Ima li neko predlog kao cemo mi smrtnici bez kablovske i ][ satelitske da pratimo ovu sezonu? Konstruktivni predlozi ][ dobrodosli! :) Odeš kod poznanika koji živi u Kragujevcu. ;>
auto-moto.164 space.ace, -> #159, nigy
>> P.S. Ima li neko predlog kao cemo mi smrtnici bez kablovske i satelitske >> da pratimo ovu sezonu? Konstruktivni predlozi dobrodosli! :) Predlažem vam svima selidbu u manje gradove koji imaju svoje privatne televizije, na kojima se prikazuju trke direktno sa Satelita :). Dođite...
auto-moto.165 vector, -> #155, space.ace
│ BridgeStone gume se, izgleda mi, pokazuju mnogo bolje od GoodYear, i │ mislim da treba samo sacekati kisicu pa da GoodYear ode na zasluzeni │ odmor. └───────── U PPG Cart (IndyCar) sampionatu vazi (barem do sad) bas obrnuta situacija. Goodyear gume su bolje od Firestone (Bridgestone) guma na kisi. Svako ko je pratio IndyCar prosle godine sigurno se seca trke u Detroitu. Naravno, staza je bila potpuno mokra (doduse, pri kraju trke se osusila ;) a bolidi sa Goodyear gumama su bili bolje plasirani od onih sa Firestone gumama. Uzmimo za primer Blundella koji je krenuo sa, cini mi se, 15 mesta a zavrsio peti. To je odlican rezultat. Naravno, svi znaju da u PPG Cart sampionatu razlika izmedju bolida nije na tolikom nivou kolikom je u F1. Cak stavise, bolidi su poprilicno ujednaceni za razliku od F1 gde Williams Renault bolidi (namerno nisam rekao vozaci ;) postizu rezultate za .500 sekundi bolje od ostalih. U ovoj zadnjoj trci PPG Cart sampionata u Australiji (Surfers Paradise) Paul Tracy (na Goodyear gumama) je cak na suvom bio bolji od Zanardija (na Firestone gumama) ali ga je ovaj jednim "pohlepnickim" zaokretom lako izbacio iz trke ... da li to znaci da se Goodyear popravlja ili sta ? :)
auto-moto.166 vector, -> #162, stukelj
│ 1. Scott Pruett Ford │ 2. Greg Moore Mercedes │ 3. Michael Andretti Ford │ 4. Alex Zanardi Honda │ ... │ 12. Jimmy Vasser (kralj) Honda └───────── Znaci, bilo je ovako : 1. Scott Pruett (20) 13. Richie Hearn (21) 2. Greg Moore (99) 14. Max Papis (25) 3. Michael Andretti (6) 15. Patrick Carpentier (16) 4. Alex Zanardi (4) 16. Arnd Meier (64) 5. Gil de Ferran (5) 17. Mauricio Gugelmin (17) 6. Andre Ribeiro (31) 18. Michel Jourdain (19) 7. Raul Boesel (40) 19. Paul Tracy (3) DNF 8. Mark Blundell (18) 20. Juan Fangio II (36) DNF 9. Dario Franchitti (9) 21. Parker Johnstone (27) DNF 10. Bobby Rahal (7) 22. Bryan Herta (8) DNF 11. Adrian Fernandez (32) 23. Paul Jasper (34) DNF 12. Jimmy Vasser (1) 24. Gualter Salles (77) DNF 25. Hiro "Mobile Chicane" Matsushita (24) DNF 26. PJ Jones (98) DNF 27. Al Unser, Jr. (2) DNF 28. Christian Fittipaldi (11) DNF A posle ove trke tabela izgleda ovako : 1. Michael Andretti 35 2. Scott Pruett 30 3. Greg Moore 28 4. Paul Tracy 16 5. Alex Zanardi 16 6. Jimmy Vasser 15 I na kraju se postavlja pitanje (od autora ove poruke ;) : "Da li ce vise onaj * Hiro 'Mobile Chicane' Matsushita zavrsiti trku ?" PS. Nema teorije. (obratiti paznju na nadimak) :))
auto-moto.167 giovanni, -> #158, stukelj
Ę? RTL RULES ! Marš, bre!
auto-moto.168 giovanni, -> #163, schef
Ę? Odeš kod poznanika koji živi u Kragujevcu. ;> Jeste, i posle pola sezone za prevoz potrošim koliko i za omanji SAT TV komplet. ;) Mada, nije ti to loša ideja. Pred sledeću trku eto mene kod tebe. I još povedem nekoliko ortaka. ;))) Nećeš imati ništa protiv, nadam se. ;)
auto-moto.169 celtic, -> #164, space.ace
==> Dodite... Daj adresu i spremi pivo :))
auto-moto.170 schef, -> #168, giovanni
][ tebe. I još povedem nekoliko ortaka. ;))) Nećeš imati ništa ][ protiv, nadam se. ;) Neću, ako povedeš i nekoliko lepih drugarica ;>>> (koje naravno ne prate formulu, ali zato vole nešto drugo ;).
auto-moto.171 giovanni, -> #170, schef
Ę? Neću, ako povedeš i nekoliko lepih drugarica ;>>> (koje naravno ne prate Ę? formulu, ali zato vole nešto drugo ;). Mogu da povedem par riba koje vole i brzu vožnju. :) A da li vole i F1 ne znam. A ono drugo znam da vole i te kako. ;)
auto-moto.172 vpoznanovic,
Argentine Grand Prix from Buenos Aires, Argentina 11th April 1997 - 13th April 1997 Friday Free Practice 16:00 CET 11th April 1997 18:00 CET 11th April 1997 Saturday Free Practice 14:00 CET 12th April 1997 15:15 CET 12th April 1997 Saturday Qualifying 18:00 CET 12th April 1997 Sunday Warm-Up 13:30 CET 13th April 1997 Sunday Race 18:00 CET 13th April 1997
auto-moto.174 vpoznanovic,
F1: Argentinian GP Friday Free Practice Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:25.755 2. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:26.693 0.938 0.938 3. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:26.983 0.290 1.228 4. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:27.017 0.034 1.262 5. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:27.052 0.035 1.297 6. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:27.129 0.077 1.374 7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:27.169 0.040 1.414 8. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:27.702 0.533 1.947 9. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:27.823 0.121 2.068 10. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:27.979 0.156 2.224 11. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:28.137 0.158 2.382 12. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.163 0.026 2.408 13. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:28.932 0.769 3.177 14. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:29.153 0.221 3.398 15. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:29.302 0.149 3.547 16. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.426 0.124 3.671 17. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:29.893 0.467 4.138 18. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:30.069 0.176 4.314 19. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:30.376 0.307 4.621 20. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:30.546 0.170 4.791 21. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:30.727 0.181 4.972 22. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:31.269 0.542 5.514 107% of fastest time: 1:31.757
auto-moto.175 vector,
Pa ovo je necuveno. Alesi i Berger 11. i 12., a onaj mali gad Villeneuve prvi. Ccc. :)
auto-moto.176 space.ace,
Narode (a naročito obren-e)! Povlačim sve što sam ikad rekao ružno o Panis-u!!! Što, pitate se vi? Pa, pogledajte tabelicu: 1. Vilnev 2. Frencen 3. PANIS <------ 4. Šumaher 5. Baričelo 6. Drugi Šumaher . . . Šta reći sad, sem: sačekajmo trku, i ako se Panis pokaže u trci kao i na kvalifikacijama, oou brother... 10. Kultard 11. Alezi 12. Berger 13. HILL!!! :) Očajna vremena Benetona, a odlična Hilova, uzevši u obzir njegov bolid, i bolid Benetona.
auto-moto.177 vpoznanovic,
F1: Argentinian GP Saturday Free Practice Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:24.874 2. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:25.704 0.830 0.830 3. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:26.359 0.655 1.485 4. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:26.455 0.096 1.581 5. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:26.494 0.039 1.620 6. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:26.703 0.209 1.829 7. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:26.772 0.069 1.898 8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:26.789 0.017 1.915 9. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:26.835 0.046 1.961 10. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:27.229 0.394 2.355 11. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:27.423 0.194 2.549 12. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:27.468 0.045 2.594 13. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.496 0.028 2.622 14. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:27.768 0.272 2.894 15. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:27.885 0.117 3.011 16. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.086 0.201 3.212 17. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:28.600 0.514 3.726 18. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:28.654 0.054 3.780 19. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:28.710 0.056 3.836 20. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:28.853 0.143 3.979 21. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:29.118 0.265 4.244 22. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:29.140 0.022 4.266 107% of fastest time: 1:30.815
auto-moto.178 vpoznanovic,
F1: Argentinian GP Saturday Qualifying Pos Driver Nat Constructor Time Gap To 1st ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Jacques Villeneuve CDN Williams-Renault 1:24.473 2. Heinz-Harald Frentzen D Williams-Renault 1:25.271 0.798 0.798 3. Olivier Panis F Prost-Mugen 1:25.491 0.220 1.018 4. Michael Schumacher D Ferrari 1:25.773 0.282 1.300 5. Rubens Barrichello BR Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:25.942 0.169 1.469 6. Ralf Schumacher D Jordan-Peugeot 1:26.218 0.276 1.745 7. Eddie Irvine GB Ferrari 1:26.327 0.109 1.854 8. Johnny Herbert GB Sauber-Petronas 1:26.564 0.237 2.091 9. Giancarlo Fisichella I Jordan-Peugeot 1:26.619 0.055 2.146 10. David Coulthard GB McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.799 0.180 2.326 11. Jean Alesi F Benetton-Renault 1:27.076 0.277 2.603 12. Gerhard Berger A Benetton-Renault 1:27.259 0.183 2.786 13. Damon Hill GB TWR-Yamaha 1:27.281 0.022 2.808 14. Nicola Larini I Sauber-Petronas 1:27.690 0.409 3.217 15. Jan Magnussen DK Stewart-Ford ZV10 1:28.035 0.345 3.562 16. Jos Verstappen NL Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:28.094 0.059 3.621 17. Mika Hakkinen FIN McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.135 0.041 3.662 18. Jarno Trulli I Minardi-Hart 1:28.160 0.025 3.687 19. Mika Salo FIN Tyrrell-Ford EDV8 1:28.224 0.064 3.751 20. Shinji Nakano J Prost-Mugen 1:28.366 0.142 3.893 21. Ukyo Katayama J Minardi-Hart 1:28.413 0.047 3.940 22. Pedro Diniz BR TWR-Yamaha 1:28.969 0.556 4.496 107% of fastest time: 1:30.386
auto-moto.179 swix, -> #175, vector
-=> Pa ovo je necuveno. Alesi i Berger 11. i 12., a onaj mali gad Villeneuve -=> prvi. Ccc. :) Williams prvi (naravno Villeneuve još "prviji"). Međutim kao što veca reče zanimljivo je da je Benetton skroz zakazao, kao i to da je Panis treći ispred Šumia i Barrichella. Hakkinen 17 valjda, a Coulthard jedva medju prvih deset. Pozdrav!
auto-moto.180 dejarak,
NOVE VESTI! In This Issue *Head Defends Frentzen *Stewart Mods *Ton Up For Jordan *Argentine GP Times *Argentine GP Preview *Ferrari Look To Imola *Tyrrell / Bridgestone *Renault Engine Rumours *Schu Plays Down Chances *Lola Hoping To Return At San Marino *Schumacher Breaks Mugello Record *Irvine Gets Vote of Confidence *Formula 1 A-Z "P" Part 2 Head Defends Frentzen Patrick Head has defended Frentzen's performance saying that Hill took 11 races to win in a Williams, Coulthard took 21 and Villeneuve took 4. Head neatly omits the fact that Damon Hill was driving with Alain Prost as team mate and always finished in the top four. Head's point is valid though, Frentzen is still in a new team with a new car, we can judge him after Spain. Stewart Mods The aerodynamic modifications that Barrichello had for Brazil will be available to Magnussen for the Argentine GP. They also hope to have fixed the software bug which caused Barrichello's engine to shut itself down after revving to 16,000 rpm. Ton Up For Jordan This weekend sees Jordan's 100th GP. Yet to record a victory the team look as good as they ever have done. Fisichella and Schumacher are both new to the car so the results will undoubtedly get better as the season progresses. Argentine GP Times The qualifying session for the GP starts at 16:00 GMT on Saturday and the race is at 16:00 GMT on Sunday. Those of you in the UK, please remember that BST (British Summer Time) is GMT + 1. Argentine GP Preview The track is twisty and bumpy and for the last two years the race has been won by Damon Hill. Hill is unlikely to win this weekend but the circuit closes up the pack so you never know. The weather will play a big part in the result, if it is wet then Panis and Hill have the chance to show us just how good the wet weather Bridgestone tyres are. Benetton and in particular Gerhard Berger must be in with a good chance of a win but the pre race favourite must be Jacques. Surely this time he must be able to get away from the line cleanly ?. Ferrari Look To Imola Ferrari should debut their new step2 engine at Imola along with other modifications that will increase the performance of the car. Tyrrell / Bridgestone Tyrrell have been linked with Bridgestone tyres. The team currently use Goodyear tyres and a Goodyear spokesman has said that the contracts that Goodyear teams signed have no room for manoeuvre. The earliest any team could swap to Bridgestone would be at the end of this season. Though that didn't stop Arrows testing the Bridgestones last year. Renault Engine Rumours There are rumours that other teams are interested in getting hold of Mecachrome and more specifically that a deal has been signed with a second team. Arrows have been linked to Mecachrome, though the engine supplier denies any deals. The Mecachrome F1 program boss Jean Yves Houe said that all plans were confidential and any announcements would be made after Monaco. The Arrows team need to know which engine they will be using next year so that they can start on the chassis design for the new car. Schu Plays Down Chances Michael Schumacher has said that he can't see himself winning in Argentina, admitting that Jacques Villeneuve is the man to beat. Lola Hoping To Return At San Marino Lola are hoping that they can overcome their financial hiccup and get back to racing in this season's championship from Imola. The return all hinges on the current finance negotiations that the team are undertaking. Schumacher Breaks Mugello Record Michael Schumacher has broken the Mugello track record (again). Using the new step 2 engine he completed over 450Km of testing with a best time of 1.25.25 despite being in race trim. Irvine Gets Vote of Confidence Luck Eddie Irvine has been given a vote of confidence from the Ferrari management. In the UK when a football manager gets a similar vote from his club he is usually sacked within days. Let's hope the Italians have a different interpretation of a vote of confidence :-) Formula 1 A-Z "P" Part 2 P is for............. Pironi Didier Pironi's F1 career was cut short by a terrible accident at Hockenheim which almost cost him his legs. His career started with the Tyrrell team in 1978 and in his second race he scored his first points. He managed a total of five points finishes that year marking him out as a driver with above average ability. 1979 saw Pironi gain his first podium finishes when he came third in Belgium and at Watkins Glen, points from three other races helped him to 10th place in the championship standings with 14 points. The Ligier team was his next stop and the Ligier JS11/15 Cosworth would give him his first GP win (Zolder). He finished 8 races for Ligier, always in the points and more often than not on the podium too. He scored 32 points which put him fifth in the championship. The red car came calling in 1981 and Pironi found himself teamed up with Gilles Villeneuve. His season got off to a poor start with three retirements and though he managed to score points in a few races 1981 was not his best season. 1982 was to be his final year in F1. It started badly with a poor first race which saw him finish 18th, six laps behind. The next race saw him finish eighth and get promoted to sixth when the first two drivers were disqualified (Piquet-Brabham Ford, Rosberg-Williams Ford, both cars underweight at finish). At Long Beach he hit a wall and went out and then at Imola he overtook his team mate on the last lap (something that caused huge friction between them). The next race (Zolder) saw his team mate killed, and Pironi did not race. At Monaco he finished second, followed by a third place at Detroit. Zandvoort saw him win his third GP and in Britain and France he finished on the podium. Then came the German GP, during a rain soaked practice session he was unsighted and ran into the back of Alain Prost's Renault almost destroying his legs. His season was over, he led the championship but there were five races left and Keke Rosberg managed to score enough points to claim the title. Didier wanted to race, but without any finesse in his foot control (a result of his accident) he could not return to F1, instead he chose powerboat racing. On August 23 1987 he crashed off the Isle of Wight (UK) and was killed. Prost Alain Prost, only the fourth driver ever to retain the drivers championship was also one of the greatest F1 drivers. It could have been very different, such were his skills with the ball he could have become a professional footballer. It was an early karting World championship win which made him pursue a career behind the wheel. His first season was 1980 were he debuted at McLaren. The Woking team were in a transitional stage and the car was nowhere near the pace of the Williams (sounds familiar) nor could it match the Brabham, Ligier or Renault machines. Despite this Alain managed to score points in his first two races, two more points scores later in the season was not a bad result. For the next ten years Alain would win races in every season. A chance to join Renault in 1981 was a brilliant opportunity and one which he did not pass up. The RE22B gave him his first podium finish when he came third in Argentina. The RE30 was a much better car and allowed him to win in France, Holland and Italy as well as gaining two second place finishes. Alain finished fifth in the championship just seven points behind the winner. A second season with Renault and a brilliant start, two wins from two races and it looked like Alain might be able to mount a serious attempt on the drivers title. Sadly the rest of the season was dogged by engine failures and fuel injection problems. Though he still managed to finish fourth in the championship. 1983 was his last year with Renault, the new RE40 was much more reliable than his car the year before and he retired only three times. Four wins (France, Belgium, Britain and Austria) along with three other podium finishes left him two points ahead going into the last race of the season at Kyalami. A blown turbo forced him to retire. Nelson Piquet who had lead the race from the start finally finished third and took the title. The French press and Renault decided that Alain was at fault for not winning the title and after much criticism he upped sticks and moved back to McLaren who must have thought it was Christmas! By 1984 McLaren were up with the front runners and Alain Prost and his new team mate Niki Lauda won 12 of the races. Alain actually won seven to Lauda's five but retirements in Belgium, Dallas, Britain and Italy cost him the title by 0.5 points. The closest ever title race. After coming so close in the previous two seasons Alain was determined to succeed. In 1985 he won five races but finished second twice and third in four other races. This consistency far out classed his team mate who only finished three races. Alain won his first World championship by 20 points. In 1986 Alain became the fourth driver (Ascari, Fangio and Brabham) to retain the drivers championship. The season was a close battle between the two Williams drivers (Mansell and Piquet) and Alain. Wins in San Marino, Monaco and Austria helped him on his way and second place finishes in Portugal and Mexico ensured that he was still in touch going into the final race. Mansell had 70 points and Piquet and Prost were tied on 63. In reality Mansell only needed to finish fourth to claim his first world title. As the race came to a close Mansell suffered a 180 Mph puncture and went out, Piquet who was then leading was called into the pits by Williams for a precautionary tyre change and Prost sailed through into the lead to take his second title by two points. 1987 saw Williams strengthen their position and again it was Mansell and Piquet fighting for the title. Alain started off well enough with a win in Brazil and Belgium but a series of retirements and low points scores left him out of contention. He did manage one more win in Portugal and a second in Spain, but scoring no points in the last three races left him fourth in the championship. 1988 saw McLaren get Honda power and Ayrton Senna, the team swept all before them winning fifteen of the sixteen races and setting a constructors championship record of 199 points. They would have won all sixteen had it not been for Jean Louis Schlesser. Schlesser was standing in for an ill Nigel Mansell and collided with Senna while he was being lapped two laps from the end of the race taking Senna out in the process. The MP4/4 Honda was truly an outstanding car and McLaren had two of the best drivers ever to sit in a Formula1 car. The early season belonged to Alain, wins in Brazil, Monaco and Mexico put him into the lead a further win in France helped him stay clear of the pack but his team mate was catching. Alain won three more times, in Portugal, Spain and Australia. The title however went to Ayrton Senna by three points. In 1988 the best 11 results counted and 7 wins and 7 second places were not enough. Although Prost actually scored more points 105 to Senna's 94. By 1989 Prost and Senna's relationship had started to deteriorate, Alain got down to the business of racing though and put together a string of wins and podium finishes which left him ahead by 16 points going into the last two races. That infamous 47th lap collision with Senna at Suzuka which put him out and led to Senna's disqualification ended the title race. At the next race in Australia the now three time world champion refused to start due to the appalling rain. 1990 saw Alain move to Ferrari, the Italian marques best season of late. Alain won five times and six other points finishes left him going into the last two races with a chance of retaining his title again. In an almost carbon copy of the 1989 Japanese race Ayrton Senna ran Prost off the road and put both drivers out. This gave the title to Senna with a 13 point lead going into the last race. 1991 was the second year of his career when Alain failed to win a race, the Ferrari struggled to be really competitive and neither Alain nor his new team mate Jean Alesi could win in it. Alain came closest in the French GP when he was just 5 seconds behind the race winner, further second place finishes in the US and Spain helped him into fifth place in the drivers championship. Alain was fired by Ferrari for his outspoken views on the capabilities of the Ferrari 643 and his place at the last race was taken by Gianni Morbidelli. Disillusioned with F1 he decided not to race in 1992 and instead looked at the options open to him. A deal with Williams for 1993 meant he would return to partner his one time Ferrari team mate Nigel Mansell. 1993 came without Mansell, instead his team mate would be the test driver Damon Hill. Between them they would win ten of the sixteen races, Prost winning seven. Five other podium finishes allowed him to win his fourth title by 26 points. Williams signed Senna for 1994 and Prost handed in his resignation. The two drivers were hardly the best of friends and after winning your fourth title it is easier to quit and avoid aggravation. When people look at Prost they always get the impression that he never really tried, his driving was so smooth and deceptively quick, rarely mounting kerbs or sliding through corners. You just need a quick glance at how many times he set the fastest lap of a race. 41, shows just how quick he was, his nearest rival Mansell only managed 30. Alain tops the drivers tables for the most wins with 51, for most fastest laps with 41 and the most points scored with 768.5. He is also joint second with Jim Clark on the pole positions table with 33. Alain is now team principal of the Prost Mugen Honda team. Pryce Tom Pryce is another of the fallen heroes that died before he could really achieve F1 greatness. He started his F1 days in 1974 at the wheel of a Token (1 race), and then moved to Shadow, he only managed to finish four times and only scored one point but he did manage to qualify a less than brilliant car in third place. 1975 started in much the same way but things improved from Belgium when he finished sixth. Four more points finishes, including one on the podium helped him to 10th in the championship. He even scored his first pole position at Silverstone. 1976 was a better year, the car finished all but three races, however it was not as competitive and from 12 finishes he only managed 3 points scoring drives. Many drivers would have left Shadow, but Tom stayed on. The 1977 season however was to prove no better. He finished the first race 8 laps down and then in Brazil his engine seized. It got worse, Shadow team mate Renzo Zorzi's engine failed, as he pulled over and got out of his car the engine caught fire. Renzo returned to the car and activated the extinguisher which put the fire out. However, two over eager marshals decided that they would assist, they attempted to run across the track carrying fire extinguishers just beyond a blind brow. Sadly at the same time Tom Pryce and Hans Stuck came over the hill side by side. Tom hit one of the marshals, killing him instantly, and the fire extinguisher hit Tom on the head killing him instantly too. Tom's car carried on down the hill to the first bend where it slammed into the Ligier of Jacques Laffite. Laffite was uninjured. Purley If you look up David Purley in the record books you will see that he started 7 GPs, never won, never qualified higher than 19th, never set a fastest lap and didn't score any points. A pretty unremarkable F1 career which was ended with a terrible practice accident at the 1977 British GP which took him ages to recover from. What David Purley is most remembered for is the events at the 1973 Dutch GP. Roger Williamson's STP March had hit a barrier after tyre/suspension failure, and the barrier had launched the car across the track where it came to rest upside down and on fire. Williamson was trapped. The nearby fire tender was down the track and not allowed to drive against the flow of traffic to extinguish the fire. The marshals on the scene were either unsure what to do or unwilling to approach the burning car. As Purley came upon the scene he stopped and attempted (single handedly) to right the overturned car. He then grabbed an extinguisher from a marshal and tried to put the fire out. He returned to the car again and again but it was all in vain. Williamson burned to death (live on TV, in front of millions of viewers) while the marshals looked on in horror. David Purley was awarded the George Medal for his attempts at saving Williamson (I think this is second only to the Victoria Cross, unless the George medal is the civilian equivalent) one of the highest bravery honours that the UK government can award. Paul Ricard The Paul Ricard circuit has fantastic facilities and a mile long main straight (Mistral) that leads into a fast right hander. The circuit is 3.610 miles long, though the F1 variant was shortened to 2.369 miles long after the death of Elio de Angelis in 1986. Nigel Mansell holds the lap record (1.04.402 - 132.425mph) which he set in his Ferrari in 1990. The circuit hosted the French GP 14 times between 1971 and 1990 before it moved to Magny Cours. Pedrables Some circuits have competition for the national GP from tracks in their home country. Pedrables has competition from tracks in and around the same city. Like Catalunya and Montjuich Park, Pedrables is in Barcelona (OK so Catalunya is 20 miles outside the city, but it is still classed as Barcelona). Host of the Spanish GP for the first two occasions (1951 and 1954) the 3.925 mile long circuit was closed in 1955. Juan Manuel Fangio holds the lap record for the full 1951 circuit, while Alberto Ascari holds the lap record for the longer 3.936 mile variant used in 1954. Pescara In 1957 the "Pescara GP" made its one and only appearance as part of the world championship after the cancellation of the Belgian, Dutch and Spanish GPs. Pescara is the longest circuit to have been used in the world championship, 16.032 miles long with two four mile long straights. The course also featured level crossings and a twisting uphill section that went through many villages. The race was won by Sterling Moss. Phoenix Phoenix held the US GP three times, twice won by Ayrton Senna and once by Alain Prost. The track was a street circuit and never really proved a hit with the public, the US GP was dropped after the 1991 race.
auto-moto.181 swix,
Kupujem mesto pred TV-om od 18:00 - 20:00. Uslov: da se u to vreme na TV gleda samo F1 ponude na mail :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
auto-moto.182 swix,
Jeli kakve su to priče da će BK možda da uzme prava prenosa Formule 1. Ja to pročitah u novom "Auto"-u. Ajde ako neko zna nešto više, naka kaže.
auto-moto.183 saturday, -> #181, swix
poruka za swix zasto bas od 18 - 20 zar nije od 21 - 23
auto-moto.184 saturday, -> #182, swix
ajde ako nesto zaznate javite i meni jer sam vec poludeo
auto-moto.185 vector,
Odlicna voznja Irvajna i Ralfa. Trka - jedna od najgorih u poslednje vreme. :) Trebalo je cuti komentatora sa RTL-a : " Ralf Sumaha!!! Senzacionel!!! Jaaa!!! Gut!!! Drite place!!! Jaaa!! Ralf!!! Senzacionel!!! " :) 1. Villeneuve 2. Irvine 3. R.Schumacher
auto-moto.186 obren,
Neizvesna trka, puno ispadanja i incidenata od samog starta. Uglavnom ovo govori da će sezona ipak biti jaaako zanimljiva. 1. Villeneuve 2. Irvine 3. R. Schumacher 4. Herbert 5. Hakkinen 6. Berger 7. Alesi ... Panis je jako vozio dok nije odustao zbog nekog kvara. Vileneuve u završnici umalo nije ostao bez pobede (Irvine na "braniku" ;) ali ostaje da vidimo da li je Williams imao tehničkih problema. Pohvale za Hakkinena koji se još u početku jako uspešno probio tako da je 5. mesto priličan uspeh. Alezi je vozio kao poslednji amater, izgleda da ima kompleks da pretekne Hila ;) pa je umalo odustao posle dva incidenta pri preticanju. Šta još reći sem je*em ti državu u kojoj ne možeš da gledaš prenos Formule 1... :((( Special thanx to Atlantic kladinica ;)
auto-moto.187 vector, -> #185, vector
│ Trka - jedna od najgorih u poslednje vreme. :) └───────── Huh ... barem danasnji dan nije propao. :) Danas oko 5:00 na Eurosportu se mogao gledati direktan prenos iz Malezije (motorcycling grand prix) gde je Max Biaggi nastavio da dominira u klasi od 250cc iako je promenio tim. Prvi u klasi od 125cc bio je Valentino Rossi, a u klasi od 500cc Michael Doohan ispred svog timskog kolege A.Criville-a! Na Eurosportu se danas oko 22:00 moze pratiti direktan prenos trece trke PPG C˙A˙R˙T sampionata. Naravno, u pitanju je Long Beach, a pol poziciju je osvojio, cini mi se, Gil De Ferran, tako da ce najverovatnije biti dosta dobra trka (kao i uvek, inace ;). Kao sto neko rece (baker?), dominacija Williams Renault bolida postaje dosadna. Trka je stvarno bila jedna od najgorih. Odavno tako losu trku nisam gledao. 10 bolida je zavrsilo trku. Berger na sestoj, a Alesi na sedmoj poziciji :(. Villeneuve, naravno :(, dominirao tokom citave trke. Jedno vreme (pred sam kraj) se cinilo da Irvine ima sanse da ga obidje do kraja trke, medjutim, nista od toga :(. Od starijeg Sumahera nista. Ispao je u prvom krugu zbog sudaranja sa Baricelom, koji je trku nastavio. Takodje nisam mogao da verujem kada sam video da Panis odustaje. Panis je verovatno isao na 1 pitstop tako da bi imao odlicne sanse da pobedi danas, opet, da mu se nije desilo to sto mu se desilo. ;) Sve u svemu ... zacin C! :)) PS. Alesi & Berger RULE!
auto-moto.188 miko,
Imam jedno pitanje za ljude koji su gledali danasnju trku. Ustvari, da prvo napisem poredak, posto se trka nedavno zavrsila: 1. Villeneuve (rutinski) 2. Irvine (dosad najbolja trka otkada je u Ferrari-ju) 3. Schumacher (Ralf) 4. Herbert (preziveo golgotu ;) 5. Hakkinen (standardno, najbolji :) 6. Berger (zona sumraka) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ E, sad, do negde pedesetog kruga, na telopu se pojavljivalo 6. Alesi -> 1 Lap -> 7. Berger a od tada 6. Berger -> 1 Lap -> 7. Alesi ???? Imajuci u vidu minijature koje su na pocetku izvodili Hill/Diniz vs Alesi/Berger i par pirueta Benetton-ovih vozaca, mozda je tu doslo do "mismatch-a" ( (c) by V.Olic ;)) Mislim, pojavi se jedan, drugi nestane ... potom ovaj drugi "uleti" na sesto ili sedmo mesto, ovaj prvi valjda ode u boks. Na kraju, jedan ispred drugog ... pa onda, obratno ;)) Definitivno, dream team ... da nema pomenutog dvojca, F1 bi izgubila veliki deo humora koji sada poseduje.
auto-moto.189 obren, -> #187, vector
> Danas oko 5:00 na Eurosportu se mogao gledati direktan prenos iz Malezije > (motorcycling grand prix) Tooo! :) Ajde kad već pratiš na satelitu mogao bi redovno da kačiš rezultate kad već vpoznanović neće O;) > gde je Max Biaggi nastavio da dominira u klasi od 250cc iako je promenio > tim. Prvi u klasi od 125cc bio je Valentino Rossi, a u klasi od 500cc > Michael Doohan ispred svog timskog kolege A.Criville-a! ...što će reći Honda konačno može da objedini sve tri titule ;) > Villeneuve, naravno :(, dominirao tokom citave trke. Pa sad, dominirao je među onima koji su ostali u trci. Bilo bi zanimljivo videti rasplet da su u igri ostali matori Šumaher, Frentzen a bogami i Panis koji ga je pratio na početku ali je ostalo nejasno na koju bi taktiku išao, šteta što odustade... :( > Jedno vreme (pred sam kraj) se cinilo da Irvine ima sanse da ga obidje > do kraja trke, medjutim, nista od toga :(. Da, ono je bila idealna prilika za obilazak, bolju poziciju ne može da zamisli - jednom mu se našao metar iza u repu na pravcu odmah posle krivine. Al' šta je tu je... :) > Od starijeg Sumahera nista. Pa šta je mogao da uradi kad nije ni učestovao u trci... Čak mi dođe i žao što nije završio ;)
auto-moto.190 obren,
Komentar sa Atlasa F1 (http://www.atlasf1.com) Williams-Renault nije bio tako nadmoćan nad ostalim učesnicima trke kao što je to do sada bio slučaj. Žak Vilnev je morao dobro da se potrudi da bi ostao na prvoj poziciji nakon što ga je Edi Irvajn stavio na muke u poslednjim minutima trke. Olivije Pani je još jednom pokazao potencijale Prost-Mugen bolida prateći vodećeg Vilneva na početku trke. Ralf Šumaher je želeo samo da završi trku a uspeo je da se popne na podijum, završivši treći uz pomoć Pežoovog motora koji je pokazivao znake umora u poslednjim krugovima. Zanimljivosti: * McLaren je potpisao ugovor o sponzorstvu sa Mastercard-om * Schumacher je ispao iz trke u prvoj krivini kada je udario u Baričela. Baričelo je nastavio trku ali je oštetio vrh bolida. Kultard je takođe ostao van trke jer ga je neko udario i otkinuo mu zadnji točak. On je to prokomentarisao ovako: "Očekivao sam nešto u prvoj krivini ali ne baš ovo." * Frentzen je parkirao svoj Williams kraj staze zbog tehničkih problema (coupling problem - ko zna nek prevede, mrzi me da tražim rečnik ;) * Alesi je prilikom preticanja prerano zatvorio Hila i oba vozača su se okrenula na stazi ali nastavila trku * Panis je odustao zbog tehničkih problema u 18. krugu * Ralf Schumacher pokušava nemoguć manevar protiv svog timskog kolege Fizikele i izbacuje ga iz trke. Baričelo odustaje u istom krugu * Larini ima velikih problema u pitu pošto cev za uvod goriva ne može da se pričvrsti na otvor rezervoara * Hill odustaje zbog otkaza motora u 33. krugu * Katayama spinuje na ulasku u krivinu u 37. krugu dok Nakano izleće van staze u pokušaju da izbegne sudar * Pritisak goriva naglo opada u Ferštapenovom Tirelu usled čega Holanđanin odustaje od dalje trke * Nakano odustaje zbog problema sa bolidom * Diniz spaljuje Yamahin motor u 50. krugu * Larini parkira svoj bolid na kraju pitlejna u 63. krugu * Magnussenov Ford eksplodira u 66. krugu * Vremenski uslovi: suvo i sunčano ..co wri auto Grand Prix of Argentina, 13/04/1997 Vremena: ─────────────────────────────────────────────────── 1. Villeneuve (Williams-Renault) 1h 52:01.715s 2. Irvine (Ferrari) + 0.979s 3. R. Schumacher (Jordan-Peugeot) + 12.089s 4. Herbert (Sauber-Petronas) + 29.089s 5. Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes) + 30.351s 6. Berger (Benetton-Renault) + 31.393s 7. Alesi (Benetton-Renault) + 46.359s 8. Salo (Tyrrell-Ford) 1 lap 9. Trulli (Minardi-Hart) 1 lap 10. Magnussen (Stewart-Ford) 6 laps Nisu se kvalifikovali: ───────────────────────────── Larini (Sauber-Petronas) Diniz (Arrows-Yamaha) Nakano (Prost-Mugen) Verstappen (Tyrrell-Ford) Katayama (Minardi-Hart) Hill (Arrows-Yamaha) Fisichella (Jordan-Peugeot) Barrichello (Stewart-Ford) Panis (Prost-Mugen) Frentzen (Williams-Renault) Schumacher (Ferrari) Coulthard (McLaren-Mercedes)
auto-moto.191 obren,
Stanje na tabeli nakon trke za Veliku nagradu Argentine, 13/04/1997 Šampionat vozača Šampionat konstruktora ────────────────────────────────────── ─────────────────────────── Villeneuve (Williams-Renault) 20 Williams-Renault 20 Coulthard (McLaren-Mercedes) 10 McLaren-Mercedes 19 Berger (Benetton-Renault) 10 Ferrari 14 Hakinnen (McLaren-Mercedes) 9 Benetton-Renault 11 Schumacher (Ferrari) 8 Prost-Mugen 6 Irvine (Ferrari) 6 Jordan-Peugeot 4 Panis (Prost-Mugen) 6 Sauber-Petronas 4 R. Schumacher (Jordan-Peugeot) 4 Herbert (Sauber-Petronas) 3 Larini (Sauber-Petronas) 1 Alesi (Benetton-Renault) 1
auto-moto.192 vector, -> #187, vector
│ Na Eurosportu se danas oko 22:00 moze pratiti direktan prenos trece trke │ PPG C˙A˙R˙T sampionata. Naravno, u pitanju je Long Beach, a pol poziciju │ je osvojio, cini mi se, Gil De Ferran, tako da ce najverovatnije biti dosta │ dobra trka (kao i uvek, inace ;). └───────── U odnosu na jucerasnju trku u Argentini (F1), ovo je bilo fenomenalno. :) Toyota G.P. of Long Beach 1. Alex Zanardi 4 7. Paul Tracy 3 2. Mauricio Gugelmin 17 8. Raul Boesel 40 3. Scott Pruett 20 9. Jimmy Vasser 1 4. Al Unser, Jr 2 10. Bobby Rahal 7 5. Parker Johnstone 27 11. Adrian Fernandez 32 6. Bryan Herta 8 12. Dario Franchitti 9 13. Mark Blundell 18 19. Paul Jasper 34 14. Andre Ribeiro 31 20. Hiro Matsushita 24 15. Patrick Carpentier 16 21. Gil de Ferran 5 16. PJ Jones 98 22. Michael Andretti 6 17. Michel Jourdain 19 23. Greg Moore 99 18. Gualter Salles 77 24. Roberto Moreno 11 25. Max Papis 25 26. Juan Fangio II 36 27. Richie Hearn 21 Point Standings (after 3 of 17 races) Sledeca trka ───────────────────────────────────── ──────────── 1. Scott Pruett 44 April 27th 2. Alex Zanardi 41 from Nazareth, PA 3. Michael Andretti 35 Bosch Spark Plug G.P. 4. Greg Moore 28 2:00 PM Eastern 5. Mauricio Gugelmin 24 6. Paul Tracy 23 7. Jimmy Vasser 19 8. Parker Johnstone 15 9. Al Unser, Jr 12 10. Bryan Herta 11 11. Raul Boesel 11 12. Gil de Ferran 11
auto-moto.193 vector, -> #190, obren
│ * Hill odustaje zbog otkaza motora u 33. krugu └───────── Steta za Hilla. A bio je u poziciji da osvoji poene ...
auto-moto.194 darth.vader, -> #185, vector
>> Odlicna voznja Irvajna i Ralfa. Prosto nisam mogao da verujem da Irvajnov bolid moze da izdrzi celu trku ;) Coveku svaka cast, kao i Ferarijevim momcima ;) >> Trka - jedna od najgorih u poslednje vreme. :) Ne bih se bas kladio... Trka je bila sasvim ok, a to sto je Sumaher ispao u prvom krugu, to i nije neka steta ;>>> >> " Ralf Sumaha!!! Senzacionel!!! Jaaa!!! Gut!!! Drite place!!! >> Jaaa!! Ralf!!! Senzacionel!!! " Ovo sam cuo... Fora je bila kada komentator govori predak, govori samo do Ralfa ;))) Fantom... Kada je Ralf bio 9ti, govorio je do 9tog mesta, kada je bio 5. do 5. ;))) U svakom slucaju, sasvim solidna trka... :) Darth
auto-moto.195 darth.vader, -> #186, obren
>> Panis je jako vozio dok nije odustao zbog nekog kvara. Vileneuve u Panis ove godine mnooogo dobro vozi... Jedini koji je uspeo da uspesno prati Vilneva. Sta da kazem... Honda je ipak neprikosnovena sto se tice motora... Ali dobitna kombinacija je tu ustvari Prost-Honda... Jos da imaju vozaca kao sto je Senna bio koji bi znao da potera bolid... Veselo bi bilo... ;) >> zavrsnici umalo nije ostao bez pobede (Irvine na "braniku" ;) ali >> ostaje da vidimo da li je Williams imao tehnickih problema. Pohvale >> za Hakkinena koji se jos u pocetku jako uspesno probio tako da je Hakinen je ok vozio, ali steta sto je Kultard uleteo u ono sr*nje na pocetku... Mozda bi bilo vise poena za McLaren... >> 5. mesto prilican uspeh. Alezi je vozio kao poslednji amater, izgleda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...ako mu izadjem, $%^$#& (C) Bora Djordjevic ;) Darth
auto-moto.196 darth.vader, -> #188, miko
>> E, sad, do negde pedesetog kruga, na telopu se pojavljivalo >> 6. Alesi -> 1 Lap -> 7. Berger >> a od tada >> 6. Berger -> 1 Lap -> 7. Alesi >> >> ???? E da... I ja sam to primetio u jednom trenutku, ali verujem da je to greska do ovih sto prenose... :)
auto-moto.197 obren,
Vesti: * Čuveni Ferarijev dizajner, John Barnard, prešao je u Arrows kod Toma Walkingshaw-a. * Saznaje se da i TWR (Arrows) i Benetton pregovaraju sa Hondom oko snabdevanja motorima za sledeću sezonu, pošto Mugen-Honda napušta Prost Grand Prix nakon ove sezone. * Jedan Senin bolid prodat je na dobrotvornoj aukciji za 5.2 miliona dolara.
auto-moto.198 schef, -> #175, vector
][ Pa ovo je necuveno. Alesi i Berger 11. i 12., a onaj mali gad ][ Villeneuve prvi. Ccc. :) Taj mali gad će biti 'The Champ' pa ti sad gledaj... ;)
auto-moto.199 obren,
Upravo videh da je Žak Vilnev je u toku trke imao izvesnih problema sa digestivnim traktom ;), što objašnjava onu prilično neubedljivu vožnju u završnici ("naivna je muka svaka pored muke od stomaka..." ;) Dakle, ko je pomislio da je video "sumrak Williamsa" - malo se zaje*ao :)
auto-moto.200 swix, -> #183, saturday
-=> poruka za swix zasto bas od 18 - 20 zar nije od 21 - 23 Dečko dečko. Formula je bila u 18:00 Neverujem da grešima li ako je tako...... p.s. Da nije možda bila na nekom kanalu (našem) ???????
auto-moto.201 swix, -> #186, obren
-=> Special thanx to Atlantic kladinica ;) Da nema u Atlanticu da se gleda formula? Ako ima prebiću te što to nisi ranije rekao :) btw. jel ima kladionica (neka) za Formulu 1 ?
auto-moto.202 swix, -> #197, obren
-=> * Jedan Senin bolid prodat je na dobrotvornoj aukciji za 5.2 miliona -=> dolara. Eeeeeeeehhh da mi je tih para. Nego koje godište, ako se zna. Barem, ako se zna, jel Williams, McLaren, ili čak Lotus?
auto-moto.203 vector, -> #194, darth.vader
│ Ne bih se bas kladio... Trka je bila sasvim ok, a to sto je Sumaher │ ispao u prvom krugu, to i nije neka steta ;>>> └───────── Meni je bila losa. Da li je to zbog ubedljivo najgore staze koju covek moze da zamisli ;) ili zbog neceg drugog (ispadanje Sumahera ;), pojma nemam. ;) Anyway, uz poruku su moji rekordi iz Minesweepera za "expert" nivo tezine. Ako neko moze bolje, svaka cast! :) rekordi.arj
auto-moto.205 stefan, -> #203, vector
>Anyway, uz poruku su moji rekordi iz Minesweepera za "expert" nivo tezine. >Ako neko moze bolje, svaka cast! :) Pretpostavljam da su svi veoma ushićeni zbog tvojih rekorda ali preporučujem da se ubuduće ovakve stvari šalju u odgovarajuću konferenciju (mcule i njegova konferencija IGRE prosto vape za ovakim prilozima ;)
auto-moto.206 stukelj, -> #192, vector
> Toyota G.P. of Long Beach Najveci kralj, Vasser, ponovo nije uspeo :(( da trijumfuje.