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13 Nov 1998 - 24 Dec 1999

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Messages - arkadne

arkadne.212 goxi, -> #211, indi
>> ps:moj haj skor je 15784 >> pisite ko me preleti :) Dosadasnji rekord mi je 24724 ! :)
arkadne.213 kvlada, -> #212, goxi
Kako da za tri+ sata igzubite ochi i zivce? 44918!
arkadne.214 ica.z, -> #211, indi
> evo jedne dobre igrice imam i ja jednu slichnu koja je isto tako fina... ne znam da li ste chuli za TwinBlok???
arkadne.215 indi, -> #212, goxi
->>> ps:moj haj skor je 15784 ->>> pisite ko me preleti :) -> Dosadasnji rekord mi je 24724 ! :) ushio sam te slececi domaci za sve vas je 28440, da vas vidim :) a da, igrica, verovali ili ne, ima i _stereo_ zvuk (!)
arkadne.216 indi, -> #214, ica.z
twin blok? ako ima mogucnost 2 igraca U ISTO VREME onda salji!
arkadne.217 ventura, -> #215, indi
> ushio sam te > slececi domaci za sve vas je 28440, da vas vidim :) a o kojoj je igri rec?
arkadne.218 ica.z, -> #216, indi
> twin blok? > ako ima mogucnost 2 igraca U ISTO VREME onda salji! nema... inache onaj qrac pomerash gore-dole a ne levo-desno i igra je prilichno zarazna... mozda nije tako lepa kao ona koju si ti poslao (za dos je inache) ali je kao shto sam vec napisao veoma zarazna (barem meni) videcu da je poshaljem...
arkadne.220 hooligan,
evo jedne veoma imbecilne igre... zadatak: ubiti sve muve i bube koje vam se nadju na ekranu... ;) superfly.zip
arkadne.221 yvan, -> #215, indi
> ushio sam te > slececi domaci za sve vas je 28440, da vas vidim :) Sinko, kada stigneš 103212 onda se javi...
arkadne.222 morkin, -> #211, indi
> ps:moj haj skor je 15784 > pisite ko me preleti :) Verovali ili ne, moj stric od 60 godina redovno igra DX Ball i rekord mu je oko 137000. Završio je igru nekoliko puta (igra ima 50 nivoa i potrebno je oko sat i po igranja da se završi). Kad on sedne za komp, moj burazer izbedači.
arkadne.223 indi,
moj top skor je sad 35414 nemam nameru vise da se trudim jer sam se smorio btw:pozdravi strica :)
arkadne.224 sherloc,
Mozhe li se ikako u dxball-u namestiti da se igra preko tastature ? ByE
arkadne.225 indi,
ima li neko cheatove za DX-Ball, i da li neko zna kako se pokrece level editor? na intro screenu ove igre pise da je autor Michael Welch i da mu je email: mwelch@netwave.net i kaze covek u readme fajlu da mu pisemo mail i da ce u tom slucaju odgovarati i reci koji su cheatovi i kako se pokrece level editor poslao sam mu email ali mi je samo vracena moja poruka uz objasnjenje da user mwelch@netwave.net NE POSTOJI ima li neko ideju u cemu je stvar?
arkadne.226 goxi,
Jel ima neko DX Ball 2 ???
arkadne.227 qpele, -> #225, indi
> ima li neko cheatove za DX-Ball, i da li neko zna kako se pokrece > level editor? > Idi na www.dxball.org. To je nezvanican dxball site. Imas free download level editora, dxball2... btw, postoji svetsko prvenstvo u dxball-u :)
arkadne.228 sherloc, -> #227, qpele
>> Idi na www.dxball.org. To je nezvanican dxball site. Imas free >> download level editora, dxball2... Ajde ako neko ode, neka poshalje ovde ono shto download-uje. ByE
arkadne.229 qpele,
Varanja za dx-ball: DX-Ball 1 Cheats Ctrl F1 = Board editor - Only works from main screen Ctrl F1 = Normal paddle - Use during game play Ctrl F2 = Grab paddle Ctrl F3 = Laser paddle (guns) Ctrl F4 = Long paddle Ctrl F5 = Music on Ctrl F6 = Music off Ctrl F7 = Moves ball if stuck When you have only one block left press the 'P' key wait one minute and then press it again and boom, lightning from the top of the screen blows up the last block for you! Skinuo sam i dx-ball 2, ima oko 2mb pa cu ga poslati kada me ne bude mrzelo. Dx-ball 2 je graficki i muzicki kvalitetnije uradjen, ima Mega Ball( dzomba :) ) i 8 balls ( dobijes 8 lopti od jednom).
arkadne.230 qpele,
Stize dx ball 2 dxball2.exe
arkadne.231 qpele,
Cheat-ovi za DX-Ball 2 While in the game, type "eureka". You should hear a fanfare, and then the cheats will be active until your current game ends. Use the Left and Right Arrow Keys to move one board forward or back, and the Up and Down Arrow Keys to go to the first and last boards in the Board-Set. Hit any other key to launch a random power-up from the top of the screen. Hints & Tips: - Hit the 'p' key during the game to pause - F5 toggles through in-game MIDI music - F6 turns off in-game music - The faster the ball goes, the more points you get for bricks - Grab all the extra power-up you can, they're worth points If you think you've aced the game and want to know how to score Really Big Points, here's how to do it. Always catch the Tiny Ball, Fast Ball, and Super Shrink or Shrink Paddle power-ups. With the fastest ball you will score 20 points per brick, plus 50% for tiny balls, plus another 50% for a small paddle, for a total of 40 points for each brick a ball destroys. You will only score 8 points for bricks that you shoot with Lasers or blow up with Fire Ball or explosive bricks, so try to avoid those! You can also force Invincible bricks to zap (turn destroyable) by hitting them enough times in a row with the ball or by shooting them with enough Lasers.
arkadne.232 giovanni, -> #230, qpele
Ę? Stize dx ball 2 Ima li rešenja tj. ima li neko punu verziju?
arkadne.233 stameni,
Ima li ko spisak cheatova za Quake 1.0?
arkadne.234 qpele, -> #232, giovanni
> Ę? Stize dx ball 2 > > Ima li resenja tj. ima li neko punu verziju? Potrudicu se ja da nadjem dodatne nivoe, tj setove.
arkadne.235 indi, -> #233, stameni
-> Ima li ko spisak cheatova za Quake 1.0? mislim da je vec bilo, sve1 QUAKE Idite u "OPTIONS" i izaberite "GO TO CONSOLE", onda ukucajte sledece Üifre: GOD = GOD MODE FLY = FLY MODE trebalo bi da radi i GIVE ali meni nece, ne kapiram zasto npr "give shells"
arkadne.236 stameni, -> #235, indi
>> -> Ima li ko spisak cheatova za Quake 1.0? >> >> mislim da je vec bilo, sve1 Zaista, bilo, nađoh i sâm. >> QUAKE >> Idite u "OPTIONS" i izaberite "GO TO CONSOLE", onda ukucajte >> sledece Čifre: >> >> GOD = GOD MODE >> >> FLY = FLY MODE Za promenu nivoa: MAP ExMy x, y: po volji.
arkadne.237 stameni, -> #235, indi
>> trebalo bi da radi i GIVE ali meni nece, ne kapiram zasto >> npr "give shells" Provalih. Kucaj GIVE SHELLS broj GIVE ROCKETS broj itd.
arkadne.238 missoni.,
Ako neko zna za sifre u Tomb Raider-u 3 neka javi na telefon 617-337 Zoran.Preskakanje nivoa i oruzje
arkadne.239 johnnya, -> #230, qpele
>> Stize dx ball 2 Isto to samo za Spectrum (bez 70 Mb Win95, 3 Mb DirectX, 2 Mb DX-ball...) Moguća je istovremena igra dva igrača, a ubačena je i besmrtnost. batty.zip
arkadne.241 indi,
potrebni su mi system requierments za igre: Mech Warrior 3 Descent 3 Wipeout 2356 (tako nesto) i Wipeout XL a najvise mi treba infromacija koje od ovih igara ZAHTEVAJU 3D karticu!
arkadne.242 saint, -> #241, indi
=> Mech Warrior 3 Radice ti i bez 3d karte na Intelu na 200Mhz. => Wipeout 2356 (tako nesto) i => Wipeout XL To ti je ista igra za dva razlicita trzista. Radice na bilo cemu ali bez 3D kartice izgleda odvratno
arkadne.243 sfilip, -> #242, saint
>=> Mech Warrior 3 > > Radice ti i bez 3d karte na Intelu na 200Mhz. kad smo kod istoga (da, radi bez 3d karte na p200 al _veoma_ budjavo), igra li ga neko ovde? fina je igra, iako je i singleplayer i multiplayer veoma budjav. Singlplejer je uzasno kratak i jednostavan, i dosadan do zla boga zbog toga sto su sve misije na foru "ubij sve na mapi" ili "zashtiti ovo i ubij sve na mapi". Multiplejer je fin ali samo u teamplayu, i to 3 na 3 il 4 na 4. Al je isto tako smoran jer nema nekih CTF opcija vec obican deathmatch i team deathmatch sa eventualnim sitnijim dodatcima. Ipak, sam engine i realizacija same igre je fenomenalna, racunajuci tu odlicno konfigurisanje mechova (tesho je sklopiti valjanu mashinu a u multiplejeru njena efikasnost veoma zavisi od neprijateljskih konfiguracija). Ne znam kako se igra na internetu, trenutno mi nije tu disk pa ne mogu da probam al u mrezhi je super... pa ako ima zainteresovanih :)
arkadne.244 saint, -> #243, sfilip
=> kad smo kod istoga (da, radi bez 3d karte na p200 al _veoma_ budjavo), => igra li ga neko ovde? Igram ja... Da ne znas mozda za sta sluze stvari u equipmentu osim CASE-a , Jumper jetsa , Heat sinka i Jumper jetsa. Za sta sluzi ono oruzje NARC ? Nego jel vredi koristit pumu?
arkadne.245 sfilip, -> #244, saint
> Igram ja... > Da ne znas mozda za sta sluze stvari u equipmentu osim > CASE-a , Jumper jetsa , Heat sinka i Jumper jetsa. > Za sta sluzi ono oruzje NARC ? mislim da je NARC neshto sa schim naciljash za artiljeriju. Ne znam kolko se koristi, ako uopshte. Artemis kompjuter ti povecava preciznost raketa (i neophodan je kad ih koristis) Targeting kompjuter ti cilja gde treba da gadjash i kad koristish rakete mozhesh da izaberesh deo mecha koj gadjash. imash neshto na M, chetiri slova, daje ti nekih 30-50% vetju brzinu kad je ukljuceno, i greje se dosta. za bezhanje. Ima i ECM, on valjda pomaze da se losije vidis na radaru i da te rakete loshe ganjaju. Sigurno sam jos nesto zaboravio. > Nego jel vredi koristit pumu? shta je puma? mech? neki lakshi? nisam ih sve popamtio. Onaj od 35? Smeshni? u kampanjama, protiv AI protivnika mozes da koristis razne taktike veoma uspeshno, recimo da jurcash sa malim mechovima oko njih i da ne mogu da te pogode, ili da se popnesh na brdo i iskachesh kad pucash a oni ti ne mogu nishta il tako neshto. Tako da se tu isplati uzeti lakshe mechove i jurcati i skakati. U svakom slucaju je mnogo zanimljivije. U multiplejeru sa ljudima obicno se igra teamplay pa recimo 4 na 4, timsko ogranicenje tonazha na 260. Shto tje retji mogu trojca da uzmu Vulture (60t) a jedan nekog 80tonca ili tako nesto, pa su opet laki mechovi neophodni. Inace ko ima veci taj ima najvishe oklopa i oruzhja i tom niko ne moze da prismrdi. Osim ako ne ume da ga vozi :) U obichnom deathmatchu ako nema ogranichenja svako uzima najtezhi pa ono kao, smor...
arkadne.246 saint, -> #245, sfilip
=> uspeshno, recimo da jurcash sa malim mechovima oko njih i da ne mogu da Pazi uzmem ja takav mech ali skenjaju ih brzo... => U multiplejeru sa ljudima obicno se igra teamplay pa recimo 4 na 4, => timsko ogranicenje tonazha na 260. Shto tje retji mogu trojca da uzmu Igras preko ineta il mreze? Aj jednu partiju preko modema.
arkadne.247 sfilip, -> #246, saint
>=> uspeshno, recimo da jurcash sa malim mechovima oko njih i da ne mogu da > > Pazi uzmem ja takav mech ali skenjaju ih brzo... uzmesh PPC ili neki long range laser (u stvari savrsheni su razni topovi malih autocannona ili gauss rifle al u kampanji nema municije za to) i onda se popnesh na brdo i futash odatle, ne mogu ti nishta. Ma kompjutere je lako nadmudriti. >=> U multiplejeru sa ljudima obicno se igra teamplay pa recimo 4 na 4, >=> timsko ogranicenje tonazha na 260. Shto tje retji mogu trojca da uzmu > > Igras preko ineta il mreze? > Aj jednu partiju preko modema. e preko ineta nisam nikad uspeo, mada tad sam imao staru verziju, sad sam uzeo novu (1.1), patch od 2mb, na kojoj pishe da je sredjena internet igra. Preko modema mozhemo kad god otjesh. al glavna stvar je igraonica :) ako otjesh u fjuz, dok je josh jeftino, ti vichi. 10din/sat.
arkadne.248 darklord, -> #247, sfilip
Khmmm.... NIje povezano za pricu koju vodite al.... Gde se nalazi ta igraonica Fjuz ?? BYe
arkadne.249 sfilip, -> #248, darklord
> NIje povezano za pricu koju vodite al.... > > Gde se nalazi ta igraonica Fjuz ?? retjitju ti, al samo ako otjesh da igrash mekvorijora ;) u trznom centru skadarlija, pored kritichara.
arkadne.250 saint, -> #247, sfilip
=> novu (1.1), patch od 2mb, na kojoj pishe da je sredjena internet igra. Ql. Aj siljni taj patch.
arkadne.251 sfilip, -> #250, saint
>=> novu (1.1), patch od 2mb, na kojoj pishe da je sredjena internet igra. > > Ql. Aj siljni taj patch. not a chance. 2mb je mnogo. mogu ti bacim na internetu, al da se cimam da uploadujem ovde nema teorije :) uglavnom, pogledao sam opcije, izgleda da je mogutje dignuti internet server bez problema i onda jednostavno nadjemo se par nas na netu, jedan digne server i pichimo. Pozheljno bi bilo da smo na istom provajderu, pomogutjstvu YUBCnet ;) imal` josh zainteresovanih?
arkadne.252 goxi, -> #251, sfilip
Ja sam zainteresovan, al' nit' imam igru, a internet tek kroz par dana ! Goran.
arkadne.253 sfilip, -> #252, goxi
>Ja sam zainteresovan, al' nit' imam igru, a internet tek kroz par >dana ! imash li kompjuter, sluchajno? ;)
arkadne.254 ica.z, -> #253, sfilip
>> Ja sam zainteresovan, al' nit' imam igru, a internet tek kroz par >> dana ! > > imash li kompjuter, sluchajno? ;) E! i ja sam zainteresovan! al' nit' imam igru, nit' internet, nemam ni kompjuter (koristim po malo komshijin), a i pre par dana sam pao pa sam polomio obe ruke i par prstiju, a i ne znam o kojoj se igri radi tako da sam i ja u kombinaciji... count on me! ;)
arkadne.256 darklord, -> #249, sfilip
Pa ja sam Za...Al sam igrao samo proshla 2 dela ! :))) Nego... koliko zauzima ova 1 cd ?? Jel se isplati uzimati je ?? A sto se josh tice meKa za mrezu kad god hocete samo malo da se prisetim kako se igra ! :)))) BYe
arkadne.257 sfilip, -> #256, darklord
> Nego... koliko zauzima ova 1 cd ?? Jel se isplati uzimati je ?? 1. I nekih 350mb instalacije. A dal se isplati... pa ne znam, kampanja je pomalo smorna, tachnije veoma smorna, pa mozda bolje sacekati add on ako ti je single player iono sto oces da igrash. Ni multiplayer nije neshto bogat s obzirom na samo teamplay i deathmatch opcije (otprilike) al je zanimljiv u svakom slucaju. Engine igre je jedan od najlepshih ikada. > A sto se josh tice meKa za mrezu kad god hocete samo malo da se prisetim >kako se igra ! :)))) a ti javi ;)
arkadne.258 indi, -> #243, sfilip
-> Al je isto tako smoran jer nema nekih CTF opcija vec obican deathmatch i sta su to CTF opcije?
arkadne.259 indi, -> #244, saint
-> Igram ja... koliko MB RAMa zahteva Mech Warrior 3 ?
arkadne.260 indi, -> #251, sfilip
-> i pichimo. Pozheljno bi bilo da smo na istom provajderu, pomogutjstvu -> YUBCnet ;) -> imal` josh zainteresovanih? ja cu sad da lupim jedno glupo: mislim, da li se za tih npr. sat vremena igranja na internetu trosi vreme na internetu ili se samo trosi onoliko koliko je dovoljno za usostavljanje veze? pa znaci sat vremena na inter. covek potrosi za saamo sat vrmena pa meni 1 sat traje mesec dana! :) hocu da kazem, to bre dodje mnogo skupo
arkadne.262 dselic, -> #258, indi
> sta su to CTF opcije? Capture the Flag. Varijanta timske igre u kojoj je cilj da se zarobi zastava druge ekipe. Dan
arkadne.263 goxi, -> #253, sfilip
>> imash li kompjuter, sluchajno? ;) Komp. nabavljam sutra...;)
arkadne.264 saint, -> #259, indi
=> koliko MB RAMa zahteva Mech Warrior 3 ? Cini mi se 32...
arkadne.265 mrav, -> #259, indi
>> koliko MB RAMa zahteva Mech Warrior 3 ? Recomended je 64MB ali moze i 32 Igra inace jako malo zahteva, mislim da cak moze na pentiumu ispod 200
arkadne.266 indi, -> #265, mrav
-> >> koliko MB RAMa zahteva Mech Warrior 3 ? -> Recomended je 64MB ali moze i 32 -> Igra inace jako malo zahteva, mislim da cak moze na pentiumu ispod 200 ja imam 64 RAMa 233Cyrix 6,4 hard (dosta sam odmako od 286 sa jednim mb RAMa i 20 na hardu ) 'ocel' to kod mene, bez 3D karte, (mnogo) da secka? :)
arkadne.267 mrav, -> #266, indi
>> ja imam >> 64 RAMa >> 233Cyrix Igra zahteva 32MB RAM-a, Pemcijum 166MHz i Direct 3D akcelerator u suprotnom ces imati jedan fini slide show (frame rate = 0.5/god.)
arkadne.270 goxi,
Ima li Delta Force podrsku za Direct3D kartice, konkretno za Diamond Stealth II S220 ? Goran.
arkadne.271 ventura,
grupa nuke.em je prosirena, neka se jave svi oni koji su bili na listi cekanja da ih ubacim...
arkadne.272 pageboy,
Imam jedan problemcic Interesuju me romovi za mame ali nikako da ih nadjem na internetu. Aj`d recite neku adresu za download ako znate !! pozdrav svima
arkadne.273 jexy, -> #272, pageboy
> > Imam jedan problemcic > Interesuju me romovi za mame ali > nikako da ih nadjem na internetu. > > Aj`d recite neku adresu za download > ako znate !! > > pozdrav svima http://www.emux.com Ivke.
arkadne.274 the.edge,
Da li se neko seca popularne ruske igre - PERESTROIKA (iliti GORBI kod nas)? E, jako mi se zaigrala ovih dana, ali kako joj je i 386ica bila brza, na P5 nece ni da se startuje od brzine. Postoji li mogucnost da se uspori komp ili sl.? AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.275 sfilip, -> #274, the.edge
>E, jako mi se zaigrala ovih dana, ali kako joj je i 386ica bila brza, na P5 >nece ni da se startuje od brzine. >Postoji li mogucnost da se uspori komp ili sl.? mislim da su ovo ljudi pitali vec milion puta u ovoj conff ;) e pa necu ti mnogo pomoci al dacu ti hint: imas negde na sezamovom diru program koj radi bash to. Ono, nadji ga, nije da je sezamov preveliki.. ;)
arkadne.276 fraudator, -> #274, the.edge
e pazi ja imam cd sa nekim programom CPU kill kao, usporava procesor da mi ovaj mogo da radi sa clipperom pa ako to mozhe da tiposluzhi, oono, datju ti ga
arkadne.277 the.edge, -> #275, sfilip
Ne radi file... podrzava max 486, sto je i normalno jer je program iz '92. AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.279 supers, -> #275, sfilip
>> e pa necu ti mnogo pomoci al dacu ti hint: imas negde na sezamovom diru >> program koj radi bash to. Ono, nadji ga, nije da je sezamov preveliki.. ;) Svi programi za usporavanje koji su kružili po Sezamu bili su poluupotrebljivi, ograničeni na 5 minuta, ili neupotrebljivi na novijim procesorima.
arkadne.280 sane,
Ma botovi su shit.. Koliko god da ih ima.. Fini su da se malo vezhba, chisto onako gadjanje.. A shto se tiche toga da ne znash gde idu, nije tachno, posle jednog vremena tachno znash gde cje i kako cje..
arkadne.281 sherman,
Da li neko zna kako da predjem nivo ON A RAIL u Half Life-u. Proshao sam ceo nivo, otishao sa onim kolicima na shinama na gornji nivo, pobio sve zivo i nezivo, nashao vrata na kojima pishe BLAST DANGER (crvena vrate) i dalje ne mogu. Mozda ima neka dusha koja zna kako da se predje?
arkadne.282 diod,
Jel' zna neko kako se prelazi 4. nivo u MARIO1.Jes' da je anticka igrica al' kkad se ja zainatim da nesto zavrsim ne odustajem :)
arkadne.283 sherman,
Josh uvek trazhim izlaz sa nivoa ON A RAIL u HALFLIFE-u. Prijem...
arkadne.284 dselic, -> #283, sherman
> Josh uvek trazhim izlaz sa nivoa ON A RAIL u HALFLIFE-u. Prijem... Probaj da potražiš medju starijim porukama. Čini mi se da je neko to već kačio. Dan
arkadne.285 sherman, -> #284, dselic
Pretrazhio sam i pominje se ON A RAIL, ali nema objashnjeno kako pretji. Pa, znachi, josh uvek trazhim odgovor.
arkadne.286 sherman,
DA LI JE MOGUTJE DA NIKO NIJE PRESHAO NIVO "ON A RAIL" U HALF-LIFE-u?!?!?!?
arkadne.288 junior, -> #286, sherman
> DA LI JE MOGUTJE DA NIKO NIJE PRESHAO NIVO "ON A RAIL" U > HALF-LIFE-u?!?!?!? Moguće je, bar na sezamu. Zato ima zaludnih ljudi na webu koji su prešli, završili, diplomirali, a onda seli i napisali sve što su iskusili. Enivej, evo ti kompletnog rešenja objašnjenog na 2 načina. Jedan kao fajl uz poruku, drugi ispod kao text. Sorry na kašnjenju odgovora, ali rokovi, ispiti, frka i tako to.. Half-Life [Solution] Half-Life - The Way Through Black Mesa rev 1 Walkthrough by Bernd Wolffgramm, Editor DLH 98 This is a complete walkthrough, it will guide you through all traps and riddles in this game. Level: Anomalous Materials Look around a bit and go to the wardrobe. In the room behind it you will find your suit. Dress with it and take the stuff from your locker. Now the guard will open the door to the secured area. Head up to the test lab. Walk into the test chamber, climb up the leddar and press the button. After the sample has been released push the vehicle into the machine. Now the shit begins. Level: Unforseen consequences Leave the test chamber, the first door will open by using the ┤activate┤ key. Make your way back to the two scientists, one will open the door for you. In the next room let the energy flash crack the next door. Now run through the next corridor, grab the jimmy, smash the lower window, do the same with the door to the lift shaft. Climb up the leddar on the left side and jump onto the platform at the top. Move right back to the information hall, crawl through the air condition at the bottom into the computer lab. Jump onto the fallen computer rack into the corridor and move right. You will get to a hole in the corridor, jump down into the water and find the valve. Open it and the water will get you to another hole, move out of the water. In the next hall use the lever and jump on the sinking platform. Avoid to get hit by the facehuggers. You will get to a bridge that breaks down, use the tubes on the right to bypass it. Move into the air condition shaft and let youself fall down in the next corner. Open the door and move into the mud, turn left and follow the water to the end. Use the leddars and jump from box to box to get to the lower platform. Follow the way to the elevator. Level: Office Complex The loaded power cable stops you. Open the air condition shaft and move right. Find the red door, turn the power off. Leave through the door, smash the window, move the small table in front of the window and jump into the office complex. Make your way through the boxes and get the pumpgun. The guard has opened the door in the meantime, don┤t forget to get all the ammo from that room. Go back now to the room with the water. Jump from the table to the switch in opposite the door and turn off the electricity. Open the air condition shaft, creep in and make it up to the end. You will fall down into a corridor. Move the two boxes so you can use them as a stair to reach the leddar. Climb up and you will get to a room with an automatic machine gun. If you want to turn it off you fast have to creep beneeth the iron platform right under it and use the lever (though this is not necessary). You will pass two soldiers and a few scientists (more or less living) untill you get into a cafeteria or something. Hack the woods from the door. You will get to the cold-storage house. Look out for a red switch and use it. In the first room of the cold-storage house you have to climb up the leddar now, creep into the air condition system and jump from cupboard to air shaft and finally you will get to a metal room. Leave and jump into the elevator shaft of cause to reach the leddar. Use three leddars, the last one to get on the elevator cabine. Jump in and another level is done. Level: We┤ve Got Hostiles This level is quite linear. Only try to avoid these laser barriers which activate heavy machine gun fire. You will have to fight against soldiers and you finally will get into the fresh air for the first time. Jump fast into the bunker on the left because you cannot stand the enormous fire power of the foreign troops. Climb down the leddar and you will get to a ventilator shaft. The correct way out is right at the bottom of the shaft. Use the middle air condition shaft to escape. In the control room press the red button to open the door. Level: Blast Pit Crack down the woods from the exit. Walk up and use the lever which makes the platform come. Use this lift. Wether you go by foot or use the trolly you will get to a sea with toxic waste. Leave this waste over the boxes and climb on the tube. Follow the tube, jump into it and finally leave it. Use a leddar again, get on the higher of the two tubes and jump on the balcony. In the big toxic waste hall use the lift and follow the way. If you blow up the way - jump! You will get to the monster tentacle. I think there is no way to kill it right now - just try to survive it on your way down inside the shaft. The tentacle is blind by the way and you can use the granates to send it to the wrong way. You will get to another shaft, use the display to call the lift. After a few seconds the lift crashes down the shaft into a toxic waste. Get out there as fast as you can and jum onto the platform. A scientists asks you to start a generator. Follow the corridor, use the elevator and climb up the leddar, be carefull with the moving platform. Jump on the tube and activate the generator. Make your way back to the scientist and climb up the leddar in the toxic waste shaft. Jump to the platform. Now you have power, what you need is fuel and oxygene. Make your way up to silo 03 through the tentacle shaft. Run along the corridor, you will find the fuel room locked. Climb down the leddar and let yourself down through the tube. You will end on a small rusty tube. Do not leave that ! Follow the tube to the left and leave over a leddar. Shaft time again, turn on the fan. Now move up one ledge and jump into the air stream of the fan. This will get you to the top of the silo, crack up the woods and creep into the air condition system. You will get to a control room where you can activate fuel and oxy. Now make your last visit at the tentacle shaft, climb back into the control room and blast his ass goodbye. Now get down to the hole in the middle of the silo. Jump into the water, dive through one of the holes and leave the water on the right. You are now on a tube system. Don┤t climb down the leddar but jump on the tube. You must follow the tubes, jumping from tube to tube to get to a valve. Use it and the two tube will move to one. Follow it to a room. Level: Powerup Don┤t mess with the 1st monster you meet, you have no chance. Use your speed to run into the corridor right opposite of the entrance. Keep left and move to the silo with the hazardous waste (to be opened with the wheel). Fight your way up the leddar and jump onto the 2nd platform. Be carefull: Behind almost any corner soldiers will await you. Follow the arrows to the power generator. Use the lift. Fight your way down the iron stairs up to the water and remove the boxes that block him. Go to the control room and turn the generator on. Now go back to the monster. Run into the left large corridor and use the switch. The monster now will be grilled. Now drive the rail onto the platform, go to the rail control room and use the lever. Now drive the rail highspeed through the wall. Level: On the rail At the guard use the switch to open the barrier. Go the end of the tunnel and shoot the aliens on the ceiling. Now drive the rail to the lift. Let the train go, you will get to a switch where a hook blocks the trail. Kill all enmies here and let the trolly move on. You will get to switch where you have to shoot the arrow to let the trolly go on straight away. Leave the rail at the next platform and you will find the control room for the hook behind a pile of boxes. Use the lever. Now drive back to the hook, also shoot the arrow here and let the rail roll. You will get to an underground station with three gates. Kill all soldiers and use the switch on two of the paltforms. Now move up the stairs at the right gate, keep right and walk into the tunnel. At the hook move right and upstairs. Move on and enter the rocket silo behind the red door. Climb down and you will get to next rail section. Let the train go. You will get to a nasty guy with a rocket thrower. Unbelievable but true, he can only hit you, not the trolly. So just duck, when you come by. Leave at the next barrier and jump-duck over the undestroyable boxes. Walk upstairs and use the lever in the control room. Go back to the green boxes, now move left. Get on the next trolly. Drive onto the platform. You will get to the next floor. The easiest way to survive is to duck. If you come to an arrow - shoot it, you will need to drive on straight away. Once you have stopped, move down the leddar and finally the world has you back. Walk through the red door. You will get to some stairs which are secured with three laser barriers. Push the small box close to the big one and use them as your stairs. Launch the rocket and leave the bunker again, move left and climb down the leddar. Use the new trolly. Level: Aprehension Crack up the lock that keeps the tons, dive up and use the tons as your bridge to the right. Move up and jump in the water again on the other side of the yellow-grey wall. Dive along the corridors, behind the doors you have the possibility to dive up to get some air. You will get to a fish monster. Move around the water, go upstairs and climb into the cage. Now you have the cross bow. In the water escape through the wood lattice and pick up enough ammo to kill the fish. In the next bassin room, move around, jump through the hole in the lattice and dive along the tunnel. Activate the power in the generator control and jump over the moving cylinders to get to the other platform. You will get to a computer room. Kill all the aliens and a collegue will open the cold-storage room for you. Hurry up! Now make your way up to the next guard. He dies. Move into the platform in the middle of the yard and activate surface access. Now run into the tunnel and access the dark room. You will wake up in a garbage yard and the walls are coming towards you. Jump fast from one box to another, pick up the jimmy and leave over the leddar. Crack the lattice and move down. Follow the light! Level: Residue Processing Move through the cave and use the valve at the silo. Climb up the leddar and crawl in. Follow the guard and take his weapon (he didn┤t have a long life, too pitty). Return to the main area, access the toxic swimming pool and leave through the tube. Jump straight on and creep on the tubes. Now it will be an in- and outwater session, leave the area in a hall with three conveyor belts. Move out the water and push the middle lever at the conveyor control. In the back room press the green button and run to the belt where you have the most space to creep. Now let yourself always fall to the next lower conveyor belt. If you have survived you finally will get to a shaft. Climp up the leddar and another level is done. Level: Questionable Ethics Jump over the fence and press the button in the next room. Kill the gorilla monster and in the next room it is barbeque time for a couple of facehuggers. Leave and talk to the guard. You will get to a large hall with an active laser barrier. Shoot this and a door will be accessable. Move around on the next floor and press the red buttons four times. Now got to the lab with the yellow button. Push the box as close to the middle as possible. Now press the button and the wall will be cracked up. Jump down and talk to the scientists. Lead one to the eye scanner in the main hall. Level: Surface Tension The red door is locked, so jump into the water on the right side and climb up the leddar at the intake tower. Press the button here and glide back into the water. Now open the lattices manually and dive in. You will get to smooth water, climb up the leddar and enter the tubes. Now comes a most sucking part. You will get to about five areas. The exits of these areas are only small holes in the rock. You need to get to a grey tower. Use the valve here and go to the mine field. Shoot in the sand to find the mines, now jump behind the fence and jump into the open hole. Free climbing will be your new hobby. Make your way up to a cave and get the rocket thrower. Time for the helicopter to say good bye. Now move right and use leddars again to get to another tube. You will get out ... on a marines training camp. Forget the tank, just open the big door in the guard shed. Move in. Unfortunately you have to eliminate the beige tank. Over run him and hide next to the door. Now use the rocket thrower. Move right around the ordinance storage facility - beware of snipers. Creep beneeth the barbed wire and shoot the explosive tons to kill the electricity. Now use the power tree to get on the roof. Do a little labyrinthing to get to a hole in the roof. Jump in. Level: On Your Own Now don┤t even think about touch something. Don┤t move any box, don┤t blow up any laser traps. Shoot any facehugger as fast as possible. If one laser trap explodes, the level wil be restarted. So save as often as you can. Jump and crawl to the elevator in the opposite corner of the hall. Crack the box that blocks it and go to the control room on the left. Press the button and jump onto the lift. From here jump into the lift area in the middle of the room. Use the lift. Save! You have to cope with the tank. Move around the building into the house, kill all enemies fast, the guard upstairs must survive. He is the only one that knows the door combination to the weapon storage. Grab anything you can carry and also smack the boxes to get back the cross bow. Now jump out of the window, move right along the ledge, jump from one power box to the next and climb up the leddar. On the roof you will have to use the small platforms and the foot bridges to get to the platform in the left corner. You will get to a dropping place of the soldiers. Fight the aliens and use the immobile canon to crack the large portal. Use this ... hmmm ... as a trampoline and jump down on the over side of the roof. Creep into the air condition system. If you have fallen down use one car lift to get out after the canon has blocked the way out. Now use the canon for your needs and open the door with it (also helps with the three aliens). Move around the ledge including a little double jump. In the streets use the monster slime to get on the right roof and jump into the water. Climp into the tube. In the moment the soldiers puts in a granate move back and dive. Jump from the ledge to the ofen tube, open the hatch and crawl in. Kill the soldiers and look for a guard to open both the door and the barrier. In the garage let the monster be monster and run right fast. Two monster slime later you are on a silo and your task is to give the right coordinates for air attacks. You have to destroy the door and the wall on the left near to the water. You also have to ┤kill┤ the power tree because you will need it as a bridge to get to the tunnel. Level: Forget About Freeman You will come to a small hall ... the ceiling is coming down, so be quick along the ledge. Jump down from the control room and keep right. If you have the choice, move right again and use the valve on the small platform. Climb down. Push the iron box into the water and use it as a platform to get over the fence. Dive on. Kill the fish and dive through and under the gear drives. When you have left the water it is fragging time again. Kill all soldiers including the tank. You should have enough rockets. After you have left the elevator, move right. And then it is tank time again, but this time it is you who fires the gun ! Use the small canon to clear the rest. Now follow the left way, press the yellow button and another level is done. Level: Lambda Core Move into the control booth and press the button. Now jump onto the platform and follow the truck down. In the next room you play a little hide and seek with four ninja girls. After you have won, make your way through a pile of boxes, move up to the upper ledges and find an elevator. In the hazardous material bay B climb up the leddar on the right and the scientist will open the next door for you. Now you have to do two things. Find both of the two pumps and press the button. The way to one of them seems to be blocked, but you can creep through the barricade. then go to the main pool, jump down and dive to the reactor to spin both wheels there. Dive up and leave over the leddar (move with the direction of the flashes). The next lift is broken but you can use the leddar to climb as high as you can and jump to floor B. Open the door to the transporter and move into the right light. Make sure you land on a platform on the over side of the fence. Jump into the middle. Any port leads you to another location. The right combination is: 2-4-7. Now you are standing in another room. You have to push the button on the left and right to activate the transporter in the middle. You are save on the moving ring but you will have to duck when it is moving up. Use the leddar and you are in the most important lab. Let the scientist open the door for you. Wait for the scientist to give you the sign, then stand on the starting point and jump into the dimension door. Level: Xen Jump down to the next ... emmm ... thing and jump to one of the smaller platforms. You will get to the mother of all shells. Go to the healing pool, right next to it you will find a way into the inner of the cave. Use any of these mechanisms looking like a mushroom. Then blow up the cage in one corner. Jump into the transporter. Level: Gonarch┤s Lair Look for a spider web. Unfortunately you cannot break it yourself. Fight with Gonarch and when you have collected many hits he will go to his web. Follow him. The same game in the next vally. When he is gone, fall through the net in the middle of the platform, but be sure you land on safe ground. Here is another healing pool. Now follow Gonarch and shoot him from under the web. When he dies, a dimension door opens. Level: Interloper First reach the cave and follow the tunnel. You will get to a moving obelisk, make your way over the small moving platform to the back of one of the blue aliens. This will take you to the transporter. You are in a cave. Move left and get into a cave tunnel on the opposite at the place. Jump over the stones and bypass the violet monster without bigger damage. Leave this place on the other side and make sure that you can jump on the top ring to bypass the two tentacles. Follow the way and you will get to a transporter that will beam you to the alien factory. The aliens need a few minutes to see you, so fast jump onto the lift, go to the first floor and wait till the lift is in the basement again. Now jump on the roof of the elevator and go to the conveyor belts. Change belts and you will be transported to a toxic waste, get out there fast. Now the aliens see you. Fight your way up to the moving piston and jump on it. Follow the way and crack as less tons as necessary, because there are unfriendly persons living in them. You will get to a blue portal. This doesn┤t work, so use the red enlighted alien air system next to it at the bottom. Follow it and you will get to another hall. Use the spinning lifts to get to the dimension portal high up in the air. Jump in. Now you are just a few steps away from the last level. Level: Nihilanth Okay, you are alone with a monster baby, and a nasty one. Your goal is to survive and kill Nihilanth. First crack up the yellow gems that protect him. Two hits with rockets will do so. Hide behind the green rock. Nihilanth will shoot with a teleporter flash at you which will bring you to three different sub levels. These are not so much defended but you will find enough ammo there. First you will get to a beige level with funny ledges. Use the low graviation and jump step for step to the transporter at the ceiling. In the next sub level you will find a blue enlighted ammo storage. Kill all unfriendly forces and jump on one of these moving balls. The last level is a wide underwater area. Collect all ammo packs and climb out of the water. The alien slime will get you to the transporter at the ceiling. After you have cracked the three gems shoot from all canons you have to Nihilanth. His skullpan will open. Now use the trampoline to get over him and fire in his head. He will explode. Your last action is to talk to the guy and jump into the green flashes. A few comments on the game: I have played three games over the last weeks using a 3D graphics engine: Sin, Blood 2 and Half-Life. I liked Sin and Blood 2, but in my eyes Half-Life was the most exciting of these three games. When I played Sin it was the first game where the enemies AI was a little bit more unpredicatble than in e.g. Unreal or Quake 2. The Blood 2 AI sucked, but in Half-Life the enemies gave me the most thrill. E.g. the AI of the soldiers is cool, they are real guerillas, not only dump targets. Well done Valve ! We are looking for more of these quality games ! Thanx to Oliver Wiesemann, olwie@paderborn.netsurf.de hlwalk.zip
arkadne.289 sherman, -> #288, junior
10x junior.
arkadne.290 the.edge,
Cek cek cek... izvinjavam se, nisam u toku. U Engleskoj videh Half-life, ali mi se ucini da je to jos jedna kopija quakea, pa sam je odmah vratio u raf. Iz vase price ispada da se radi o nekoj 3d avanturi!? Jel tako ili gresim? Da li je vredna igra? Ko je kreator - ion storm? AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.291 sfilip, -> #290, the.edge
>Cek cek cek... izvinjavam se, nisam u toku. U Engleskoj videh Half-life, ali >mi se ucini da je to jos jedna kopija quakea, pa sam je odmah vratio u raf. >Iz vase price ispada da se radi o nekoj 3d avanturi!? Jel tako ili gresim? >Da li je vredna igra? Ko je kreator - ion storm? "Dobar dan, u engleskoj videh p2 procesor ali mi se ucini da je to jos jedna kopija 386ice, pa sam ga odmah vratio u raf. Iz vase price ispada da se radi o nekom kvalitetnom procesoru? Jel tako ili gresim? Da li vredi para? Ko je kreator, industrija Zastava?" ;) "kreator" je Valve. Igra je uradjena na modifikovanom quake2 engineu i izgleda veoma lepo. U principu je klasican 3dfirstpersonshooter ali ima jaku prichu i izvedbu. Dakle nije samo jurish i ubijash. pa ako imas vremena obavezno je odigraj, bash je okej, neces se razocarati. Treba ti (minimum) p1 200+, Riva128 il vudu da bi fino igrao. Kolko cujem izlazi uskoro nastavak HL-a, gde je igrach u ulozi vojnika, koj za vreme dok Gordon Freeman bije marsovce spashava zemlju od najezde zelenih. Kazu da ce single player biti oko 40% duzine starog HL ali meni stari ionako valja samo do trenutka kad se odlazi u dimenziju zelenih, a to je nekih 60%, i to je mnooooooogo igranja, te se cini da vredi :)
arkadne.292 ventura, -> #290, the.edge
> Cek cek cek... izvinjavam se, nisam u toku. U Engleskoj videh > Half-life, ali mi se ucini da je to jos jedna kopija quakea, pa sam > je odmah vratio u raf. Iz vase price ispada da se radi o nekoj 3d > avanturi!? Jel tako ili gresim? Da li je vredna igra? Ko je kreator > - ion storm? da si ti meni ziv i zdrav Half-Life je izasao odavnooo... Half-Life je jedna od najboljih igara koje sam do sada igrao (odmah posle LBA 1 i 2 :), u pitanju je 3D Avantura...
arkadne.293 miskop, -> #290, the.edge
>> Cek cek cek... izvinjavam se, nisam u toku. U Engleskoj videh Half-life, >> ali mi se ucini da je to jos jedna kopija quakea, pa sam je odmah vratio u >> raf. Iz vase price ispada da se radi o nekoj 3d avanturi!? Jel tako ili >> gresim? Da li je vredna igra? Ko je kreator - ion storm? Poruka br. 1.36 iz ove teme. Igru je uradila Sierra.
arkadne.294 the.edge, -> #291, sfilip
Uh, videh na internetu da je Valve. To znaci da su HF uradili i neki ljudi koji su bili zaduzeni za DN3D i ostalo. AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.295 the.edge, -> #292, ventura
Toooooo covece! LBA 1 & 2 su NAJBOLJE avanture koje sam ikada igrao i video! Valjda ce izaci i treci deo. :) Btw, hvala svima na infou o HF. AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.296 sfilip, -> #294, the.edge
> Poruka br. 1.36 iz ove teme. Igru je uradila Sierra. jok. sierra je izdavach a valve je napravio igru. >To znaci da su HF uradili i neki ljudi koji su bili zaduzeni za DN3D i >ostalo. da, samo shto nije HF nego HL ;) super su firmica, lep im je sajt.
arkadne.297 the.edge, -> #296, sfilip
Zar nije Sierra propala? AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.298 miskop, -> #295, the.edge
>> Btw, hvala svima na infou o HF. Da, ali kao što ti čovek već reče, nije HF nego HL. ;)
arkadne.299 the.edge, -> #298, miskop
Ne znam zasto sam pisao HF umesto HL... sorry. o:) AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.300 ventura,
Oce li neko Half-Life u mrezi?
arkadne.301 sherman, -> #300, ventura
>> Oce li neko Half-Life u mrezi? Ja bih rado, ali nemam ni vezu (PCM), a ni makinu za half-life. Inache, igram ga skoro svakodnevno kod ortaka koji ima jak komp, ali isto ima PCM. Tako, i ta mogutjnost otpada...
arkadne.302 ventura,
evo jednog sasvim glupog pitanja. Half-Life. Na pocetku sam, nivo Office Complex, dosao sam do nekakve sobe/hladnjace ima neki elevator koji ide po plafonu i imaju neke stepenice na platformu sa koje se 'uskoci' u 'air conditionin system'. Problem je u tome sto ja ne mogu da ukocim unutra... ja skocim i drzim stisnuto napred, ali ne ide nece da uskoci... U cemu je fora?
arkadne.303 sfilip, -> #302, ventura
> sa koje se 'uskoci' u 'air conditionin system'. Problem je u tome sto ja > ne mogu da ukocim unutra... ja skocim i drzim stisnuto napred, ali ne ide > nece da uskoci... U cemu je fora? mozhda si retardiran? ;) ne, nije to, ima neka fora, secam se otprilike. Nagurash beshe kutije ispod, i sad valjda morash istovremeno da chuchish i skaces da bi mogao da udjesh u 'rupu' kojom mozhesh da idesh samo chuchnut. Pamtim taj deo jer mi je trebalo vishe nego inache vremena da skontam kako da se ulazi, al zaboravio sam detalje. U svakom sluchaju to Mozhe pa ti probaj milion puta :) Da, mislim da su bile dve kutije, jedna manja, jedna vetja, a gore kao neke mini-merdevine za koje se uhvatish pa onda uskochish? Uglavnom mozhe sigurno. posle je super deo :)
arkadne.304 sherman, -> #303, sfilip
>> sad valjda morash istovremeno da chuchish i skaces Znate li kolko je meni trebalo vremena da provalim da se tako ulazi u neke od ventilacionih otvora? MNOGO! :].
arkadne.305 sfilip, -> #304, sherman
>>> sad valjda morash istovremeno da chuchish i skaces > > Znate li kolko je meni trebalo vremena da provalim da se tako >ulazi u neke od ventilacionih otvora? MNOGO! :]. nekima treba vishe, nekima treba manje.... ;) al to je jedini takav ako se ne varam. nego, posle tog prvog ventilacionog super je fora sa onim strazharskim topom...
arkadne.306 ventura, -> #303, sfilip
> mozhda si retardiran? ;) >ne, nije to, ima neka fora, secam se otprilike. Nagurash beshe kutije ispod, i >sad valjda morash istovremeno da chuchish i skaces da bi mogao da udjesh u >'rupu' kojom mozhesh da idesh samo chuchnut. Pamtim taj deo jer mi je trebalo >vishe nego inache vremena da skontam kako da se ulazi, al zaboravio sam >detalje. U svakom sluchaju to Mozhe pa ti probaj milion puta :) >Da, mislim da su bile dve kutije, jedna manja, jedna vetja, a gore kao neke >mini-merdevine za koje se uhvatish pa onda uskochish? Uglavnom mozhe sigurno. > >posle je super deo :) ma provalio sam kako... priblizis se rupi, drzis napred, skocis i pritisnes cucanj, i on udje :) a posle sam jebo kevu onim marincima... samo su me zajebavali gore na krovu.. stalno iskacu iz onog aviona novi...
arkadne.307 ventura, -> #305, sfilip
>>>> sad valjda morash istovremeno da chuchish i skaces >> >> Znate li kolko je meni trebalo vremena da provalim da se tako >>ulazi u neke od ventilacionih otvora? MNOGO! :]. > >nekima treba vishe, nekima treba manje.... ;) > >al to je jedini takav ako se ne varam. >nego, >posle tog prvog ventilacionog super je fora sa onim strazharskim topom... a koja je fora sa tim strazarskim top-om? :) i gde se on nalazi?
arkadne.308 sherman, -> #306, ventura
>> stalno iskacu iz onog aviona novi... Valjda si provalio da ni ne morash da se grchish sa njima? Samo izletish iz one prostorije u koju si doshao iz podzemlja, skrenesh levo i udjesh u tunel....
arkadne.309 ventura, -> #308, sherman
> >> stalno iskacu iz onog aviona novi... > > Valjda si provalio da ni ne morash da se grchish sa njima? Samo > izletish iz one prostorije u koju si doshao iz podzemlja, skrenesh > levo i udjesh u tunel.... provalio sam :) upravo sam stigao do Aprehension nivoa :)
arkadne.310 pips, -> #277, the.edge
> Ne radi file... podrzava max 486, sto je i normalno jer je program iz > '92. > AcCeSS DeNiED udji u bios i iskljuci interni i externi cache po potrebi jos nesto i radice.
arkadne.311 misery,
Ko oce duke-a nek zove na 8224491...VUK P.s.Morace on mene da zove jer mi modem ne moz zvati u Dos-u ;)
arkadne.312 the.edge,
Ne mogu da verujem da djubre od Quake2 vodi... ;( P.S. ne znam da li ste citali intervjue kakve daju ljudi iz id-a. To je sramota. Maximalno isfolirani, pljuju i ismevaju druge firme, govore kako je njihovo bolje od svega sto postoji, kako oni jedini imaju vrednost i najbolje rade, itd, itd. I plus toga, svaka druga rec je "ya know" i "it'll kick their asses". Da ovo daje neki naduvani klinac iz neke shlj firme, razumeo bih, ali id... Sto jedan iz foruma kaze, id je poceo da se spusta onog momenta kada je Quake zaziveo, a DOOM umro - onda kada su id napustili Tom Hall i John Romero. Potpuno tacno. Sve sto id i dalje ima su engineovi i staru slavu, a ja to ne bih bas mogao da nazovem _igrom_, jer ovo danas ima igrivost -100. Sta, quake je zanimljiv kada se igra u dvoje ili multiplay?! Izem ti igru gde ti treba petoro ljudi da bi ona zazivela i bila zanimljiva. Commander Keen, Wolf3D i DOOM su bile prve i najbolje njihove igre, sa _velikom_ igrivoscu. Ovo danas je ona sama ledena tehnologija. Djubre. AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.313 sfilip, -> #312, the.edge
>Ne mogu da verujem da djubre od Quake2 vodi... ;( >P.S. ne znam da li ste citali intervjue kakve daju ljudi iz id-a. >To je sramota. Maximalno isfolirani, pljuju i ismevaju druge firme, govore Pa ti si ovde jedina budala koja pljuje i ismeva druge stvari (i ne samo ovde), i pricha o njima iako sa njima nije upoznata ni trunchicu. Ako tebe nije sramota da tako pricas o stvarima o kojima nemas pojma, zasto bi njih bilo sramota da tako pricaju o necemu o cemu itekako imaju pojma. A ako ti je jedina zivotna zabava da neargumentovano pljujesh po sezamu sve shto ti se iz ko zna kojih razloga ne svidi, onda ti predlazem da potrazis strucnu pomoc jer sa tobom definitivno nije sve u redu ;) >Potpuno tacno. Sve sto id i dalje ima su engineovi i staru slavu, a ja to ne >bih bas mogao da nazovem _igrom_, jer ovo danas ima igrivost -100. ovim potvrdjujes da imash veze sa temom 3d FPS igara kolko i sa vozhnjom kombajna. Chitam te po raznim konferencijama i gledam tvoja proseravanja, koja cesto i jesu na mestu ali su krajnje neobjektivna i puna gluposti sa malom dozom nejasnih argumenata, samo me je mrzelo da se mesham jer si, uprkos gomili izrechenih govana, bio uglavnom na pravim stranama. Sada si medjutim izrekao gomilu belosvetskih gluposti na temu necega sa cime sam upoznat, pa cu biti tako dobar i deo po deo analizirati tvoju inace neargumentovanu poruku ;) pa da pocnemo: >kako je njihovo bolje od svega sto postoji, kako oni jedini imaju vrednost i >najbolje rade, itd, itd. I plus toga, svaka druga rec je "ya know" i "it'll jedino sto si ovde rekao je da tvrdis da ID nema najbolji 3d FPS engine, sto je izjava koju ti koj nisi ni video Q3 ni ne mozes da das, a ako si vec tako mudar onda mi navedi barem jedan 3d engine koji moze da mu parira, bez shaputanja iz publike ;) > zaziveo, a DOOM umro - onda kada su id napustili Tom Hall i John Romero. > Potpuno tacno. Sve sto id i dalje ima su engineovi i staru slavu, a ja to ne Glupost do gluposti, prosto covek da ne zna odakle da krene. Ali evo, kad vec pomenu DOOM, bicu tako ljubazan da ti objasnim par stvari u vezi istoga. Naime, DOOM nikada nije imao pravu trodimenzionalnost, kao ni njegovi prethodnici, 3dwolfenstein i ostali. Doom je dodushe neki prelaz ali je i on skrpljen od polu2d-3d elemenata sklopljenih tako da daju 3d utisak. Tek kada je ID poceo da radi na OpenGL-based engineu tojest kada su uradili Quake1 nastaje prvi pravi 3d FPS, sa osecajem prostora, realne fizike i prave 3d. > bih bas mogao da nazovem _igrom_, jer ovo danas ima igrivost -100. O igrivosti govori ogroman uspeh Quakea1, koj se ponegde joshuvek uveliko igra, Quakea2 koji suvereno vlada u multiplayer domenu iako je izasao Veoma davno, i posle njega se pojavilo mnogo igara na istu foru. Q3 jos uvek nije gotov ali je jedan od dva najbolja 3d FPS enginea na svetu. Po meni jedini ne-pravi 3d engine koji je stvarno igriv i zanimljiv je dukenukem3d. Ako pak hoces da kazes da merilo igrivosti nije to koliko se doticna igra na svetu igra, onda me molim te prosvetli. Kako bi ti definisao igrivost? >Sta, quake je zanimljiv kada se igra u dvoje ili multiplay?! Izem ti igru >gde ti treba petoro ljudi da bi ona zazivela i bila zanimljiva. Jashta. Veoma zanimljiv. To shto ti ne volish/nisi sposoban da igrash multiplayer igre ne daje ti za pravo da psujes druge kojima je, poput mene, jedini zanimljivi nacin igranja takvih igara upravo multiplayer. Postoji i par igara iz te klase (osim quakea2) koji su mi se dovoljno svideli u single playeru a to su half-life i unreal, sa kojima ti, opet, nisi upoznat. Da sam ja, nedaj bozhe, u tvojoj kozhi sada bih rekao "Shta, grim fandango nema multiplayer? Izem ti igru u kojoj nema multiplajera". Sretjom nisam tako ogranichen pa mi se GF, uprkos tome shto ne igram avanture veoma svideo. Pa cak i da mi se nije svideo ne bih ga psovao na sav glas, kao ti quake, jer se avanturama ne bavim. Eventualno bih izjavio: "ne svidja mi se". >Commander Keen, Wolf3D i DOOM su bile prve i najbolje njihove igre, sa >_velikom_ igrivoscu. Ovo danas je ona sama ledena tehnologija. Djubre. shto bi jedan matori quaker rekao, dajte choveku malo guz papira... --- juniore, nemoj brisati ovu poruku zbog psovki i uvreda, ja i ivica smo stari znanci te se on nece uvrediti, a i brate drkadzija je, zasluzhio je ;) --- A ti Ivice - ukoliko (u svojim sezamkrstashkim pohodima protiv svega u shta se ne razumesh) sluchajno naletish na kakav valjani argument protiv IDovog quakea slobodno ga podeli samnom na istom mestu ;)
arkadne.314 junior, -> #313, sfilip
> Chitam te po raznim konferencijama i gledam tvoja proseravanja, > koja cesto i jesu na mestu ali su krajnje neobjektivna i puna > gluposti sa malom dozom nejasnih argumenata, samo me je mrzelo > da se mesham jer si, uprkos gomili izrechenih govana, bio > uglavnom na pravim stranama. Wow, wow, samo malo smanjite ton, ostalo je kul :) Inače, Quake 2 jeste _ubedljivo_ najbolja arkadna igra prošle sezone, a mogla bi da se umeša i u neki "istorijski" izbor. (čisto subjektivno mišljenje;)
arkadne.315 .lex., -> #314, junior
=> Inače, Quake 2 jeste _ubedljivo_ najbolja arkadna igra prošle => sezone, a mogla bi da se umeša i u neki "istorijski" izbor. Ma, ništa ta igra ne valja. U single playeru tako nadmoćno smara da je to neverovatno, a multiplayer je rađen za široke narodne mase... Ono, svakog debila koji stane da kampuje na nekom nivou može da ukenja da pobedi na nekoj mapi. Jedino je zanimljiv kada se npr. nalazi 8 prijatelja u istoj prostoriji, svi igraju dobro, niko ne kampuje i padne pravo voštenje... Još ako se igra teamplay 3 na 3 ili 4 na 4... Van toga Q2 ne pruža nikakvo zadovoljstvo...
arkadne.316 the.edge, -> #313, sfilip
T?>> A ako ti je jedina zivotna zabava da neargumentovano pljujesh po T?>> sezamu sve shto ti se iz ko zna kojih razloga ne svidi,onda ti T?>> predlazem da potrazis strucnu pomoc jer sa tobom definitivno nije sve T?>> u redu ;) Seronjo. T?>> juniore,nemoj brisati ovu poruku zbog psovki i uvreda,ja i ivica smo T?>> stari znanci te se on nece uvrediti,a i brate drkadzija je,zasluzhio T?>> je ;) Sve ima svoje Filipe. Ako se znamo pet godina, ne znaci da cu sada nabaciti kez na lice sta god ti budes rekao. Mozda tako postupas sa svojim drugovima, ali mene preskoci sa ovakvim porukama. AcCeSS DeNiED
arkadne.317 sherman, -> #315, .lex.
>> Van toga Q2 ne pruza nikakvo zadovoljstvo... Rekao bih da nisi u pravu. Mozda Q2 zaista malo smara u single player modu, ali je zato u multiplayer-u to neponovljiva i veoooma zarazna igra. Iako ja uopshte neshto i ne igram fps-ove, zaista mislim da Q2 zasluzhuje titulu najbolje arkadne igre.
arkadne.318 zero, -> #314, junior
=> Inace, Quake 2 jeste _ubedljivo_ najbolja arkadna igra prosle => sezone, a mogla bi da se umesa i u neki "istorijski" izbor. Quake 2 jeste tehnicki veoma doterana igra ali je stvarno bezveze u single player u odnosu na Quake 1 koji me stvarno odusevljava. Ali zato je fenomenalna u Multiplayeru gde cepa konkurenciju. Mozda bi trebalo da se napravi kategorija: Najbolja Multiplayer igra. :)
arkadne.319 simce, -> #312, the.edge
> Sta, quake je zanimljiv kada se igra u dvoje ili multiplay?! Izem > ti igru gde ti treba petoro ljudi da bi ona zazivela i bila zanimljiva. Zashto? Meni predstavlja najvetje zadovoljstvo da igram protiv zhivih protivnika, strategije najvishe (starcraft). Shto vishe igracha to je zanimljivija igra, i nauchish mnogo vishe o igri kada igrash na taj nachin. A mozhda ti vishe volish da igrash protiv glupog kompjutera i kada provalish foru kako da ga pobedish onda zovesh par ortaka i pokazhesh im kako si dobar ;) Ne plashish se da ce mozhda komp da promeni neku taktiku i da te zajebe.