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cyber.culture.104 gerber, -> #103, dr.grba
YR>*> ...ali nece jos dugo. Samo se cekalo (kazu) da sudovi pocnu YR>*> da priznaju fax protokol kao sudski valjano sredstvo YR>*> dokazivanja. Za razliku od telexa koji mora biti overen, facsimil se priznaje kao valjani dokument, uz mogucnost osporavanja zbog falsifikata.
cyber.culture.105 niklaus,
Í────────────────────────────────Ě ║ Neuromancer by William Gibson ║ Ë────────────────────────────────Ż (: Sean :) neuro.zip
cyber.culture.106 novim,
==Phrack Magazine== Volume Five, Issue Forty-Five, File 1 of 28 March 30, 1994 /.../ -= Phrack 45 =- Table Of Contents ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Introduction by The Editor 17 K 2. Phrack Loopback Part I 31 K 3. Phrack Loopback Part II / Editorial 40 K 4. Line Noise Part I 49 K 5. Line Noise Part II 50 K 6. Line Noise Part III 59 K 7. Phrack Prophile on Control C 22 K 8. Running a BBS on X.25 by Seven Up 15 K 9. No Time for Goodbyes by Emmanuel Goldstein 21 K 10. Security Guidelines 55 K 11. Ho Ho Con Miscellany by Various Sources 32 K 12. Quentin Strikes Again by The Omega and White Knight 28 K 13. 10th Chaos Computer Congress by Manny E. Farber 23 K 14. Defcon II information 26 K 15. VMS Information by Various Sources 34 K 16. DCL BBS PROGRAM by Raoul 23 K 17. Hollywood-Style Bits & Bytes by Richard Goodwin 50 K 18. Fraudulent Applications of 900 Services by Co/Dec 15 K 19. Screwing Over Your Local McDonald's by Charlie X 20 K 20. The Senator Markey Hearing Transcripts 72 K 21. The Universal Data Converter by Maldoror 45 K 22. BOX.EXE - Box Program for Sound Blaster by The Fixer 13 K 23. Introduction To Octel's ASPEN by Optik Nerve 12 K 24. Radio Free Berkeley Information 35 K 25. The MCX7700 PABX System by Dr. Delam 22 K 26. Cellular Debug Mode Commands by Various Sources 13 K 27. International Scenes by Various Sources 63 K 28. Phrack World News by Datastream Cowboy 17 K Total: 902 K ---- (ps: Poslednji broj koji imam.) phrack45.zip
cyber.culture.107 ikordic, -> #106, novim
RE: Phrack => (ps: Poslednji broj koji imam.) Do dobivanja FTP privilegija za po belom svetu, beskrajno tužan :(
cyber.culture.108 spantic,
==Diet Phrack== Volume Three, Issue Thirty-Six, File 9 of 11 /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | THE MEN FROM | | M M OOOOO N N GGGGG OOOOO | | MM MM O O NN N G O O | | M M M O O N N N G GG O O | | M M O O N NN G G O O | | M M OOOOO N N GGGGG OOOOO | | | | -*- present -*- | | | | +-----------------+ | | | Real Cyberpunks | | | +-----------------+ | | | | 9/24/91 | | | | With all this shit in the news and now a book about cyberpunks, we have| |a bunch of lame assholes who think they are cyberpunks running around | |blackening the name. In response to this we'd created this g-file so | |everybody can tell the lamers from the real cyberpunks. Most of these | |wanna-be cyberpunks will probably be offended by what we're going to sysical manifestations of this attitude), and real cyberpunks | |don't get upset over something written in a g-file. | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/ CLOTHING - Real cyberpunks don't wear paisley, or any of that other neo- futuristic, yuppie, artfag shit. - Real cyberpunks wear military surplus clothing, non-neon colored Gortex, bluejeans, boots (combat or motorFactsheet-5 T-Shirts, and kilts (on formal occasions). - Real cyberpunks don't shop at Banana Republic or the "Mainframe" clothing section at Sears. - Real cyberpunks have the balls to go to Thrift Shops. Corollary to the above: Anyone who makes fun of a cyberpunk shopping at a thrift shop usually winds up in ICU. COMPUTERS - Real cyberpunks don't use IBM PCs or Tandy 1000s. - Real cyberpunks that have the $$$ use 486s, and 68030s. - Real cyberpunks that don't have the $$$ use whatever the hell they can get ahold of (except IBM PCs an Tandy 1000s). - All real Cyberpunks still own a TI-99/4A, S-100, Apple ][ w/Apple Cat, or an Atari 130XE with ATR8000 & 850 interfaces as their backup machine. - Real cyberpunks program in assembler and ADA. - Real cyberpunks think C is cute for a fuck-around language. - Real cyberpunks think of the Amiga as a cute toy. - Real cyberpunk SYSOPS run Stonehenge. - Real cyberpunks realize the Apple Cat was the best modem ever made. CARS - Real cyberpunks drive whatever they can afford. - Real cyberpunks never drive an unmodified vehicle. - Real cyberpunks think Audi, BMW, and Mercedes cars serve best as rocket launcher targets. - Real cyberpunks who can afford them drive something with a V-8. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks go to every police auction in their area. TECH - All real cyberpunks have their ham license. - Real cyberpunks know the difference between a resistor and a capacitor. - Real cyberpunks know where to get tech cheap in their area. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks practically live at their local surplus store. - Real cyberpunks think Radio Shack sucks, but still buy from there because it's convenient. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks put pragmatism before principle. - Real cyberpunks always carry a Leatherman Tool. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know what a Leatherman Tool is. - Real cyberpunks own a dual-band HT. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know what a dual-band HT is. Corollary to the corollary: Real cyberpunks have hosed McDonalds at least once. - Real cyberpunkor free. POLITICS & LAW - Real cyberpunks are politically aware, but avoid getting involved in that bullshit. - Real cyberpunks think all politicians should be castrated. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks are libertarians. - Real cyberpunks have copies of their state's law statues. - Real cyberpunks know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know what both of those say. - Real cyberpunks don't get caught. KNOWLEDGE - Real cyberpunks read 2600, Factsheet-5, Full Disclosure, Iron Feather Journal, Cybertek, Radio Electronics, Circuit Cellar Ink, Computer Shopper, American Survival Guide, and any 'zines about local bands in their area. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks understand what they read in these publications. - Real cyberpunks think Mondo2000, for the most part, sucks. - Real cyberpunks learn about everything from Computers to Crossbows. - Real cyberpunks know how to spell. - Real cyberpunks speak at least 2 languages. WEAPONS - Real cyberpunks don't have the typical yuppie artfag fear of weapons that most modem users seem to have. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know the value of useful equipment. - Real cyberpunks own at least one gun. - Real cyberpunks carry Gerber, Cold Steel, SOG, AlMar, or Spyderco blades. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks think custom steel is neat, but costs too much. - Real cyberpunks have memorized The Improvised Munitions Black Book. - Real cyberpunks know The Anarchist Cookbook is a crock of shit. - Real cyberpunks buy everything authored by Seymour Lecker and Kurt Saxon. - Real cyberpunks keep a supply of DMSO handy. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know what DMSO is. MUSIC - Real cyberpunks go to The Mentors' concerts whenever they can. - Real cyberpunks think C&C Music Factory is just a bunch of out-of-the- closet homosexuals. - Real cyberpunks don't listen to Paula Abdul. - Real cyberpunks think Michael Jackson should be napalmed. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks think Michael Jackson is a reincarnate of his monkey Bubbles. - Real cyberpunks think Top-40 sucks. - Real cyberpunks listen to Ministry, The Cure, Skinny Puppy, The Misfits, Rush, Pink Floyd, etc. - In the end, real cyberpunks listen to whatever the fuck they want. PHREAKING & HACKING - Real cyberpunks think codes are for fags, but use them anyway because they put pragmatism before principle. - Real cyberpunks know what TEMPEST means. - Real cyberpunks use data-taps. - Real cyberpunks have Internet access. - Real cyberpunks know why Broadway Hacker invited everyone to his house. - Real cyberpunks know what PPS really means. - Real cyberpunks know Clifford Stoll's ex-wife is a lesbian. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know that Clifford Stoll is an asshole. - Real cyberpunks know just how good friends John Maxfield and Broadway Hacker are. - Real cyberpunks know who John Maxfield is and what he was arrested for. - Real cyberpunks own a blue box, and still use it. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know what a blue box is, and know how to use it. - Real cyberpunks know what a TS-21 is. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks stole their TS-21. - Real cyberpunks have acquired a Bell System hard-hat. - Real cyberpunks have a payphone. Corollary to the above: The payphone belongs to someone else. - Real cyberpunks on the east coast have attended at least one 2600 meeting. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks who have attended a 2600 meeting don't go to them anymore. Corollary to the corollary: Real cyberpunks are waiting for another OSUNY meeting. Further corollary: Real cyberpunks know what OSUNY originally stood for. HEALTH - Real cyberpunks use Choline, Ginseng, and Golden Seal. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks know what these are. - Real cyberpunks know about the medicinal value of various plants. - Real cyberpunks take care of themselves. - Real cyberpunks take time away from fucking with their computers to get some exercise. FOOD & DRINK - Real cyberpunks drink Jolt. Corollary to the above: Real cyberpunks think Pepsi is for artfags. - Real cyberpunks are intimately familiar with the selection at 7 - Eleven, but avoid it whenever possible. - Real cyberpunks know how to cook. - Real cyberpunks drink Guinness Stout. - Real cyberpunks who are under 21 distill their own. - Real cyberpunks can go to a Supermarket and not get lost. That's it for now, but since lamers are always finding mew ways to become lame, expect a Real Cyberpunks Vol. II soon. Yours truly, The Men From Mongo, 9/24/91 :OSUNY, TCO, PPS, SPS, PHALCO
cyber.culture.109 sigma, -> #97, wizard
>> Jel' se zezas ili moze nekako da se skida u delovima? >> Meni veza uvek pukne kod cca 100Kb. >Na 2400 MNP bi morao da za pola sata budeš u stanju da skineš skoro >300K, uz preduslov dobre veze. Posle samo nastaviš gde si stao. A veza je ocajna...... :(((((( No,ja se trudim. ;) PhuZZy L0GiK/V.B.C.
cyber.culture.110 sigma, -> #99, bobby.quyne
>> Kako stici do njih,a bogami i drugih srodnih ? >> Da li uopste mozemo da im pristupimo zbog sankcija ? >Moguce je stici do svega sto ima napolju, ali treba da si sysop na fon-u >ili ubbg-u ili etf-u ili preko jupaka, ali onda moras da platis jupakovu >tarifu. Ako imas nekog da ti plati jupak tarifu mozes i kao obican kori- >snik jednog od gore navedenih racunara. Ex,znaci,nedostizno,osim pomocu Sezama!!! :( ;) Neka,neka,vec ce ovi moji naci nacin da se prikacimo na Internet ;) U svakom slucaju,hvala, PhuZZy L0GiK/V.B.C.
cyber.culture.111 novim, -> #107, ikordic
" Do dobivanja FTP privilegija za po belom svetu, beskrajno tužan :( Imam još neke lepe stvari da podelimo ovde, a biće još, samo strpljivo :) Ako publikum više voli, da bacamo ovde ipak fajlove u više delova (po 100 KB, recimo)? Mada je sve to, ali - recite...
cyber.culture.112 darone, -> #108, spantic
>> |wanna-be cyberpunks will probably be offended by what we're going to >> sysical manifestations of this attitude), and real cyberpunks | >> - Real cyberpunkor >> free. Ovde nešto veliko fali...
cyber.culture.113 spantic, -> #112, darone
> Ovde nešto veliko fali... To je iz Phracka :)
cyber.culture.114 mikis,
Report from the convention of phone phreak mag 2600 & H.O.P.E. Hackers: Threat or Menace? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's what the press, the security apparatus, and the hackers themselves want you to think. But think again. By Charles Platt hacked.zip
cyber.culture.115 mikis,
Gang War in Cyberspace ********************** An anonymous member of the Legion of Doom calls a member of the Masters of Deception a "nigger"- and in the loose-knit hacker underground, nothing is the same again. By By Michelle Slatalla and Joshua Quittner hacker.zip
cyber.culture.116 bobby.quyne, -> #115, mikis
> An anonymous member of the Legion of Doom calls a member of the Masters > of Deception a "nigger"- and in the loose-knit hacker underground, > nothing is the same again. Vidim neko je poceo da skida clanke iz WIRED-a. bq.
cyber.culture.117 sigma, -> #108, spantic
> đ +-----------------+ > đ đ Real Cyberpunks đ > đ +-----------------+ REAL CyberPunks don't give a flying f*ck about whether somebody thinks they are real cyberpunks or not. ;) PhuZZy L0GiK/V.B.C.
cyber.culture.118 spantic, -> #117, sigma
> REAL CyberPunks don't give a flying f*ck about whether somebody thinks > they are real cyberpunks or not. ;) > PhuZZy L0GiK/V.B.C. Xm, ovo me podseti na poruku iz moje msg baze: "Nadenuo je sebi ime pustinjski pauk." "Zašto?" "Verovatno zato što smatra da to zvuči opasno." ;)
cyber.culture.119 novim,
Ok, da počnemo... Sledećih tridesetak dana ide Principia Discordia. Ko neće, neka primeni ignore ili sl. /Principia Discordia, 1/ ----- -)(- P R I N C I P I A D I S C O R D I A or HOW I FOUND GODDESS AND WHAT I DID TO HER WHEN I FOUND HER THE MAGNUM OPIATE OF MALACLYPSE THE YOUNGER Wherein Is Explained Absolutely Everything Worth Knowing About Absolutely Anything -)(- INTRODUCTION You hold in your hands one of the Great Books of our century fnord. Some Great Books are recognized at once with a fusilade of critical huzzahs and gonfolons, like Joyce's _Ulysses._ Others appear almost furtively and are only discovered 50 years later, like _Moby Dick_ or Mendel's great essay on genetics. The _Principia Discordia_ entered our space-time continuum almost as unobtrusively as a cat- burglar creeping over a windowsill. In 1968, virtually nobody had heard of this wonderful book. In 1970, hundreds of people from coast to coast were talking about it and asking the identity of its mysterious author, Malaclypse the Younger. Rumors swept across the continent, from New York to Los Angeles, from Seattle to St. Joe. Malaclypse was actually Alan Watts, one heard. No, said another legend -- the _Principia_ was actually the work of the Sufi Order. A third, very intriguing myth held that Malaclypse was a pen-name for Richard M. Nixon, who had allegedly composed the _Principia_ during a few moments of lucidity. I enjoyed each of these yarns and did my part to help spread them. I was also careful never to contradict the occasional rumors that I had actually written the whole thing myself during an acid trip. The legendry, the mystery, the cult grew slowly. By the mid- 1970's, thousands of people, some as far off as Hong Kong and Australia, were talking about the _Principia,_ and since the original was out of print by then, xerox copies were beginning to circulate here and there. When the _Illuminatus!_ trilogy appeared in 1975, my co-author, Bob Shea, and I both received hundreds of letters from people intrigued by the quotes from the _Principia_ with which we had decorated the heads of several chapters. Many, who had already heard of the _Principia_ or seen copies, asked if Shea and I had written it, or if we had copies available. Others wrote to ask if it were real, or just something we had invented the way H.P. Lovecraft invented the _Necronomicon._ We answered according to our moods, sometimes telling the truth, sometimes spreading the most Godawful lies and myths we could devise fnord. Why not? We felt that this book was a true Classic (_literatus immortalis_) and, since the alleged intelligentsia had not yet discovered it, the best way to keep its legend alive was to encourage the mythology and the controversy about it. Increasingly, people wrote to ask me if Timothy Leary had written it, and I almost always told them he had, except on Fridays when I am more whimsical, in which case I told them it had been transmitted by a canine intelligence -- vast, cool, and unsympathetic -- from the Dog star, Sirius. Now, at last, the truth can be told. Actually, the _Principia_ is the work of a time-travelling anthropologist from the 23rd century. He is currently passing among us as a computer specialist, bon vivant and philosopher named Gregory Hill. He has also translated several volumes of Etruscan erotic poetry, under another pen-name, and in the 18th century was the mysterious Man in Black who gave Jefferson the design for the Great Seal of the United States. I have it on good authority that he is one of the most accomplished time-travellers in the galaxy and has visited Earth many times in the past, using such cover-identities as Zeno of Elias, Emperor Norton, Count Galiostro, Guilliame of Aquaitaine, etc. Whenever I question him about this, he grows very evasive and attempts to persuade me that he is actually just another 20th century Earthman and that all my ideas about his extraterrestrial and extratemporal origin are delusions. Hah! I am not that easily deceived. After all, a time-travelling anthropologist would say just that, so that he could observe us without his presence causing culture-shock. I understand that he has consented to write an Afterward to this edition. He'll probably contradict everything I've told you, but don't believe a word he says fnord. He is a master of the deadpan put-on, the plausible satire, the philosophical leg-pull and all branches of guerilla ontology. For full benefit to the Head, this book should be read in conjunction with _The Illuminoids_ by Neal Wilgus (Sun Press, Albuquerque, New Mexico) and _Zen Without Zen Masters_ by Camden Benares (And/Or Press, Berkeley, California). "We are operating on many levels here," as Ken Kesey used to say. In conclusion, there is no conclusion. Things will go on as they always have, getting weirder all the time. Hail Eris. All hail Discordia. Fnord? -- Robert Anton Wilson International Arms and Hashish, Inc. Darra Bazar, Kohat
cyber.culture.120 jankor, -> #93, bobby.quyne
>Kako, zasto? Ideja je da svako ima svoj personalni univerzalni portabilni >kompjuter, i da sve casopise na koje je pretplacen dobija preko mreze. Ja sam za ali...Pitanje umrezavanja je malo problematicno... Tesko se moze ocekivati da svako prokopa kanal za kabal do svoje kuce pa nam ostaju na raspolaganju samo telefonske linije...A maximalan prenos smo vec dostigli (skoro...maximum je negdje oko 3500cps a sad imamo oko 1700 sa 14400 modemom...(kad ce SEZAM preci na 14400? Radije bih dao nesto vise za pretplatu nego 60 din za telefon)) Ni 10 puta veci nije dovoljan ako te interesuje bilo sta sem teksta (zamisli koliko zauzima elektronski Vogue)...Doduse postoji i sansa da se kvalitet linija popravi ali...Iz svog mog iskustva sa postom (a imam ga vise nego sto bih zelio i neprijatelju) mogu da zakljucim da nema inertnije institucije na svijetu.Nije u pitanju samo nasa posta, po onome sto znam jedna od starijih KPK centrala sa 20000 brojeva radi dan-danas u centru Berlina (usput Podgoricku KPK micu za mjesec dana pa ce onda u YU ostati samo ona Beogradska. Ova ima 3000 brojeva a kad ubace novu ostace im mjesta za dva rukometna igralista :))) ) u svakom slucaju ce papir da zivi bar jos tridesetak godina... HH.
cyber.culture.121 bobby.quyne, -> #119, novim
> -- Robert Anton Wilson > International Arms and Hashish, Inc. > Darra Bazar, Kohat Mislim da ovo i pored interesantnog sadrzaja nikako ne spada u cyber svet, jer i pored toga sto je u cyber svetu sve moguce, cyber ljudi ne koriste downers (hasis, opijum i sl.). bq.
cyber.culture.122 novim, -> #119, novim
Zapravo, evo ipak Principiae Discordiae cele. Uživajte! :) principd.zip
cyber.culture.123 darone, -> #113, spantic
>> > Ovde nešto veliko fali... >> >> To je iz Phracka :) Nisam mislio na to, nego su pojedeni delovi poruke (baš tamo gde sam citirao).
cyber.culture.124 sigma, -> #111, novim
>>" Do dobivanja FTP privilegija za po belom svetu, beskrajno tužan :( >> >> Imam još neke lepe stvari da podelimo ovde, a biće još, samo strpljivo >> :) Strpljivi smo mi i zeljno iscekujemo jos... :) >> Ako publikum više voli, da bacamo ovde ipak fajlove u više delova (po >> 100 KB, recimo)? Mada je sve to, ali - recite... To,to!!! Za Beogradjane mozda i nije problem,ali ima nas sa periferije kojima je veza ochaj,pa ne moze nikako da se prenese fajl ucelo.(Jos uvek muku mucim sa onim Phrackom,mada sam najveci deo skinuo) U svakom slucaju,vecno zahvalan (imas pivo :) PhuZZy L0GiK/V.B.C.
cyber.culture.125 sigma, -> #118, spantic
>> REAL CyberPunks don't give a flying f*ck about whether somebody thinks >> they are real cyberpunks or not. ;) > Xm, ovo me podseti na poruku iz moje msg baze: >"Nadenuo je sebi ime pustinjski pauk." >"Zašto?" >"Verovatno zato što smatra da to zvuči opasno." Baš i ne zvuči opasno... :)) //PhuZZy L0GiK//V.B.C.//
cyber.culture.126 novim,
----- A Day in the Life of the Image Activator as recounted to Stanley Rabinowitz on 7-Jan-1985 MONITOR: Good morning sir! I am your command language interpreter today. That was a flawlessly executed LOGIN. How may I help you today? USER: Good morning to you too computer. I think today I want to do some data retrieving. MONITOR: A wonderful choice sir! A finer day it couldn't be for looking over your data. How will you have it today? Sunny side up? Once over lightly? USER: I think I'll use DATATRIEVE. Would you kindly activate DATATRIEVE please? MONITOR: Most certainly sir! An excellent choice! One moment while I image-activate it. MONITOR: Oh, image activator: would you please image-activate that DTR32 image that I notice on SYS$SYSTEM? My user desires to play with it a bit now. IMAGE ACTIVATOR: No problem. Shouldn't take but a jiff. <pause> MONITOR: Any problems? ----- /nastavak je u fajlu uz poruku.../ vms-act.zip
cyber.culture.127 novim,
--- GENESIS Release 2.5 By Michael Coleman In the Beginning the Project Manager created the Programming Staff. The Programming Staff was without form and structure. And the Project Manager said, "Let there be Organization;" And there was Organization. And the Project Manager saw that Organization was good; And the Project Manager separated the workers from the supervisors, and he called the Supervisors "Management," and he called the workers "Exempt." And the Project Manager said, "Let there be a mission in the midst of the Organization, and let it separate the workers, one from another." And the Project Manager created the mission and he called it "The System." And the Project Manager separated those who were to benefit from The System from those who were to build it. And he called the former "Users," and he called the latter "Programmers." And the Project Manager said, "Let all the Programmers in the Organization be gathered together into one place, and let a Chief Programmer be brought up to lead them." And it was so. And the Project Manager saw that he was competent. And the Project Manager said unto the Chief Programmer, "Create for me a schedule, so that I may look upon the schedule and know the Due Date." And the Chief Programmer went among his staff and consulted with them. And the staff was divided into two parts, one part called "Analysts" and the other part called "Application Programmers." And the Analysts went back to their desks and estimated, as was their custom. And it came to pass that each Analyst brought his estimate to the Chief Programmer, whereupon he collected them, summarized them, and drew a PERT CHART. And the Chief Programmer went unto the Project Manager and presented unto him the estimate saying, "It shall take ten months." And the Project Manager was not pleased and said, "I have brought you up from the depths of Staff; you have not grasped the "Big Picture." And the Project Manager hired consultants and authorized overtime, and he said to the Chief Programmer, "Behold, see all that I have done! The Due Date will be in FIVE months!" The Chief Programmer was much impressed and went from before the Project Manager to implement The System. And the Chief Programmer sent his Analysts to the Users and said, "Let Specifications be written!" And there were meetings, and lunches, and telephone calls, And the Specifications were written, And there was a Payday and the Happy Hour, one month. And the Chief Programmer examined the Specifications and saw that they were too ambitious. And he separated the mandatory features from the optional features; And he called the mandatory features "Requirements," and he called the optional features "Deferred," and the Users called him names. And the Chief Programmer gave the Specifications to the Analysts and said, "Let the Requirements be analyzed and let the files be designed." And it was so. And the Chief Programmer said, "Let the Software Houses put forth their Salesmen, and let us have a Data Management System." And it was so. The Software Houses brought forth all manner of Salesmen who presented their packages, and claimed wondrous things for them, each according to his own file structure. And it came to pass that a Data Management System was selected; And the Chief Programmer saw that it was good. And there was a Payday and the Happy Hour, a second month. And the Chief Programmer said, "Let the System be divided into parts, and let each part become a Module. And let programming teams be formed and let each be assigned to write a Module." And it was so. And the Chief Programmer created the programming teams with two levels, a greater and a lesser; and he called the greater the "Senior Programmers" and he called the lesser the "Junior Programmers." And he gave the greater dominion over the lesser. And the Chief Programmer saw it was good. And the Senior Programmers saw it was good. And the Junior Programmers saw it differently. And there was a Payday and the Happy Hour, a third month. And the Chief Programmer said, "Let the programming be started and let much overtime be consumed, for there is but two months left." And the Programmers, both the greater and the lesser, were much afraid and they strove to please the Chief Programmer. And they flowcharted, and they coded, each in his own fashion. And the Chief Programmer looked upon the work and liked it not. And the Chief Programmer said, "Let there be a Standard;" And there was a Standard. And the Programmers looked upon the Standard and liked it not. And there was a Payday and the Happy Hour, a fourth month. And the Chief Programmer said, "Let there be Progress Reports, so we can monitor and control;" And there were Progress Reports. And the Chief Programmer looked upon the Progress Reports and saw that the Due Date was not to be met. And the Chief Programmer arose, bought a suit, shaved his beard and went unto the Project Manager, and groveled. And the Chief Programmer pointed his fingers, and caused Blame to issue forth upon all manner of creatures who sold Hardware and Software. And the Chief Programmer asked for an Extension. And the Project Manager was exceedingly angry, and cast doubts upon the Chief Programmer's ancestry, and did utter a multitude of threats. But it came to pass that an Extension was granted; And the Chief Programmer took the extension back to the programming teams and there was much rejoicing. And the programming of the Modules was completed. And there was a Payday and the Happy Hour, the fifth month. And the Chief Programmer said, "Let the Modules be integrated, one with another, so that System Testing may begin." And it was so. Two by two, the Modules were integrated, one with another. And great difficulties were experienced, and many hours of overtime were used, and many cups of coffee were consumed. And it came to pass that System Testing was completed. And there was a Payday and the Happy Hour, the sixth month. Then the Chief Programmer did go unto the Project Manager, and said, "Behold, I bring you tidings of great joy which will come to all Users; for on this day The System is completed." And suddenly there was with them a multitude of Users praising the Chief Programmer saying, "Glory be to The System in the highest, but can you make this one small change?" ------ / <--- četiri srca u originalnom fajlu :)/
cyber.culture.128 paki,
­> drugog za izvrtanje pošto su ga samog uhvatili u tome. No kako već rekoh ­> stara metoda na SEZAM-u. Bacaj dimne i seli se dalje ;) Imam utisak da Sezam neki doživljavaju kao Doom preko mreže sa više stotina igrača :)
cyber.culture.129 maksa, -> #128, paki
>> Imam utisak da Sezam neki doživljavaju kao Doom preko mreže sa >> više stotina igrača :) :) Genijalno.
cyber.culture.130 vitez.koja, -> #128, paki
#=> Imam utisak da Sezam neki doživljavaju kao Doom preko mreže sa #=> više stotina igrača :) Baš bismo mogli, kako bi ko opisao Sezam imenom (jedne) igre? Meni se sviđa kao Colonization :), a ni Mortal Kombat ne zvuči loše :). sk
cyber.culture.131 paki, -> #130, vitez.koja
­> Baš bismo mogli, kako bi ko opisao Sezam imenom (jedne) igre? ­> Meni se sviđa kao Colonization :), a ni Mortal Kombat ne zvuči loše :). Secret Of The Monkey Island? ;)
cyber.culture.132 darone, -> #131, paki
>> Secret Of The Monkey Island? ;) Padaju mi asocijacije na Renegade, ili, bolje, Target Renegade (tu ima i bilijara, ko se seća...). Log (d;) se ovekovečuje u igri User vs User (Spy vs...). Ova muka na 2400 ti je ko učitavanje sa kasetofona, zoveš 170+ puta i dobiješ R Tape loading error ;))
cyber.culture.133 wizard, -> #130, vitez.koja
> Baš bismo mogli, kako bi ko opisao Sezam imenom (jedne) igre? Battle Bugs. Definitivno.
cyber.culture.134 inferno, -> #131, paki
Ů│ ˙ ­> Baš bismo mogli, kako bi ko opisao Sezam imenom (jedne) igre? Ů│ ˙ ­> Meni se sviđa kao Colonization :), a ni Mortal Kombat ne zvuči loše Ů│ ˙ :). Ů│ ˙ Secret Of The Monkey Island? ;) Life & Death? ;)
cyber.culture.135 soul,
Trule lejmerčine se poznaju po tome što se lože na izraze kao što su: cyberpunk, cyberspace, electronic highway... Pomenuti izrazi i cela frka oko te priče su samo još jedna podvala Sistema koja služi da dezorijentiše, pripitomi i zaglupi žive duhove sveta, da se uzme koja kinta, je li, kao i da se u nova društvena područja puste pipci kontrole. Lejmerčići se takođe prepoznaju iz aviona po tome što misle da je sve gore izneto čista glupost.
cyber.culture.136 bobby.quyne, -> #135, soul
> Trule lejmercine se poznaju po tome sto se loze na izraze ^^^^^^^^^^ > kao sto su: cyberpunk, cyberspace, electronic highway... Jel mozes ti da objasnis malo bolje sta ti ovaj izraz znaci. Smo nemoj molim tte da das neku cirkularnu definiciju tipa TL su ljudi koji se loze na 'c' reci. > Lejmercici se takode prepoznaju iz aviona po tome > sto misle da je sve gore izneto cista glupost. A dinosaurusi se prepoznaju sto im je glavni posao da koce napredak, po mogucnosti uzbrdo.
cyber.culture.137 soul, -> #136, bobby.quyne
>> Trule lejmercine se poznaju po tome sto se loze na izraze >> kao sto su: cyberpunk, cyberspace, electronic highway... > > Jel mozes ti da objasnis malo bolje sta ti ovaj izraz znaci. Ah, dakle: bio sam previše kriptičan :) Idemo malo detaljnije... Elem, LAMER (slobodno izgovaraj kao: lejmer) (bukvalno) = ćopav, šepav, nesavršen... U žargonu, osoba koja se predstavlja kao, ili misli da jeste ono što se u zatvorenom krugu nekada nazivalo hacker, cracker i sl. ali je, avaj, daleko od mogućnosti da to zaista i bude. Možda grešim, konsultujte JARGON pa javite :) > A dinosaurusi se prepoznaju sto im je glavni posao da koce > napredak, po mogucnosti uzbrdo. Podvuci u mojoj prethodnoj poruci reč _izraze_ pa probaj ponovo ;).
cyber.culture.138 vcalic, -> #137, soul
>> Elem, LAMER (slobodno izgovaraj kao: lejmer) (bukvalno) = ćopav, >> šepav, nesavršen... Ili u slobodnom prevodu: padavičar ;) Vlada
cyber.culture.139 dcolak, -> #136, bobby.quyne
│ Jel mozes ti da objasnis malo bolje sta ti ovaj izraz znaci. │ Smo nemoj molim tte da das neku cirkularnu definiciju tipa TL su │ ljudi koji se loze na 'c' reci. Ne znaš šta je LAMER? :)) Od kad se baviš kompjuterima? Da li si čuo za reči kao što su haker, koder, programer? :> Sledge DAMMIR!
cyber.culture.140 bobby.quyne, -> #137, soul
> Podvuci u mojoj prethodnoj poruci rec _izraze_ pa probaj ponovo ;). Ok. Nisam shvati sustinu poruke. Nije bila odgovor ni na jednu poruku, pa mi je zazvucalo kao bezvezno pljuvanje sa strane u cilju izazivanja negativnih reakcija. Izvinjenje.
cyber.culture.141 bobby.quyne, -> #139, dcolak
> Ne znas sta je LAMER? :)) Od kad se bavis kompjuterima? Da li si cuo > za reci kao sto su haker, koder, programer? :> Kompjuterima se bavim tamo negde od '81. Lamer nisam cuo, a nije ga bilo ni u mom 'Jargon' fajlu.
cyber.culture.142 dcolak, -> #141, bobby.quyne
│ Kompjuterima se bavim tamo negde od '81. Lamer nisam cuo, a nije ga bilo │ ni u mom 'Jargon' fajlu. Slabo se baviš. Nazovi pravog hackera lamerom, da vidiš šta će ti uraditi. P.S. Ne snosim nikakve posledice za posledice. :) Sledge DAMMIR!
cyber.culture.144 soul, -> #142, dcolak
>> Slabo se baviš. Nazovi pravog hackera lamerom, da vidiš šta će >> ti uraditi. Ne mogu da odolim prisećanju na jednu dobru odvalu (c) by someone in Subotica, ne znam tačno ko: 'Reci mu da je lejmer, ako ne reaguje, lejm je kao dupe.'
cyber.culture.145 spantic, -> #142, dcolak
> Slabo se baviš. Nazovi pravog hackera lamerom, da vidiš šta će ti > uraditi. Hajde, molim te, objasni nam šta bi uradio? Pocrveneo i strogo zapretio "No-no!"?
cyber.culture.146 gremlin, -> #144, soul
>> 'Reci mu da je lejmer, ako ne reaguje, lejm je kao dupe.' Ili je totalno frud tip... ;)
cyber.culture.147 bobby.quyne, -> #146, gremlin
> Ili je totalno frud tip... ;) Pravi odgovor.
cyber.culture.148 dcolak, -> #145, spantic
│ Hajde, molim te, objasni nam šta bi uradio? Pocrveneo i │ strogo zapretio "No-no!"? Što se bRe pališ na klinačke fore? :))) Sledge DAMMIR!
cyber.culture.149 spantic, -> #148, dcolak
> Što se bRe pališ na klinačke fore? :))) Nisam mogao da se suzdržim od smajanja :))
cyber.culture.150 soul, -> #146, gremlin
>>>> 'Reci mu da je lejmer, ako ne reaguje, lejm je kao dupe.' >> Ili je totalno frud tip... ;) Of course, but that's not the point ;)
cyber.culture.151 novim,
----- From: "LANTRA-L" "Interpreting (and) translation" 6-MAR-1995 15:09:12.27 To: Multiple recipients of LANTRA-L CC: Subj: RE: Meaning of "Cyber"? From D. Avery, Editor, WHO, Geneva. ________________________ Forward Header _______________________ Subject: Re[2]: Meaning of "Cyber"? Author: D. AVERY Date: 03/03/1995 16:58 My dictionary says kubernetes (Gk) is a steersman and cybernetics is a combination of communications and automatic control systems. I think putting "cyber" at the beginning of a word offers a trendy alternative to putting "matic" at the end, and its association with communication technology has been picked up more or less by accident (rather than original etymology). Incidentally, cyberspace offers exciting new opportunities for language joyriding, doesn't it. -----
cyber.culture.152 novim,
----- Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 16:37:04 +1200 From: Jan Tent (TENT_J@usp.ac.fj) Subject: Citing e-texts Dear LINGUISTS, This is not LINGUIST-L-specific, but my colleagues and I would really welcome some wisdom on a citation problem. How does one cite electronic versions of literary and other texts brought down from the net/web? There are no page or paragraph numbers and even the provenance of the text is not always clear (e.g. from what print edition was it keyed-in or scanned?). ----- (Odgovori u fajlu uz poruku.) quote.zip
cyber.culture.153 soul, -> #151, novim
>> automatic control systems. I think putting "cyber" at the >> beginning of a word offers a trendy alternative to putting ------ Tačno tako. A po mom mišljenju, uskakanje u trendove (izuzev tehnoloških O:)) je, najblaže rečeno, nekorisno. Ako smem da primetim, tipično za (ispod)prosečno inteligentne ljude. Upravo, lejmere ;). U cilju predupređenja negativnih reakcija, odmah da skrenem pažnju na razliku između praćenja i nekritičkog prihvatanja trendova. ;)
cyber.culture.154 dejanr,
Američka vlada od sada preko Interneta distribuira slike snimljene pomoću špijunskih satelita. Naravno, one slike koje nisu klasifikovane kao poverljive. Ovo je značajna novost, jer do prošle nedelje nisu distribuirane *nikakve* špijunske slike u bilo kojoj formi, čak ni one totalno neinteresantne i/ili zastarele. NOVOSTI/microb 4.4043.
cyber.culture.155 mikis,
Computer underground Digest Sun Mar 19, 1995 Volume 7 : Issue 22 ISSN 1004-042X CONTENTS, #7.22 (Sun, Mar 19, 1995) File 1--CuD Listserv at UIUC having some problems File 2--Cliff Stoll can't say that: "Silicon Snake Oil" reviewed File 3--RE: File 4--S. 314, Realism, Unanswered Questions (fwd) File 4--J. Baker/U of Mich Speech Case -- Chic Trib Excerpt) File 5--Campaign to Defeat Comm. Decency Act (Mar 17 Update) File 6--Reprint of Textof SB 314 File 7--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 19 Mar, 1995) cud-722.zip