ORKA.4

21 Feb 1994 - 14 Nov 1999

Messages - mac

mac.1 mikis,
reply na 10.511, madamov +> Svaki profesionalac ih ima. B) Problem je sto kad budes cuo cenu od onih +> koji ih imaju (a da nisu Times i Helvetica), brzo ces se ohladiti. Probaj +> kod BluePrint-a, B&Z Studija... Uh, znam da ih ljudi koji se profesionalno bave pripremom za stampu imaju, ali nisam siguran i da su spremni da ih prodaju po nekoj 'razumnoj' ceni (ne bih ni ja na njihovom mestu ;)). Mislio sam da li postoji jos neko osim "Tipografike" ko se bavi prodajom fontova. U svakom slucaju, hvala na informaciji. P.S. Da i znas (makar orjentaciono) kako se krecu cene (bar za Tajms i Helvetiku :)) ?
mac.2 madamov, -> #1, mikis
> Mislio sam da li postoji jos neko osim "Tipografike" ko se bavi prodajom > fontova. Nisam čuo, mada mislim da B&Z Studio u svom "opisu posla" ima i prodaju fontova. Moj bivši BluePrint je to radio po porudžbini, dakle ništa katalog i biranje. Ne znam kako se kreću cene, ali mislim da je Mladen (Tipografika) najjeftiniji.
mac.3 msijanec,
U prethodnoj arhivi ORKA.3 pod rednim brojem 10.419 bilo je postavljeno pitanje u vezi malog programa koji može da učitava i vrši elementarnu modifikaciju PICT sličica. Šaljem vam DA koji može i PICT i TIFF fajlove da učita i da obradi. Ubacite ga ili pomoću sutkejsa ( suitcase :))) ) ili nedaj bože pomoću FonćDA Muvera. Nije baš moćan al' je mali. ________ Sledi fajl.... F. deskpnt.sit
mac.4 ognjen,
[ ja, ORKA.3:najbolji: 11.481 ] )-> E, nhf, ali MACov OS (i windows) je za debile, koji se boje )-> komandne linije. . . . [ mikis, ORKA.4:najbolji: 11.13 ] )-> Eh, vidi se da nikad Meka nisi ni video... [ madamov, ORKA.4:najbolji: 11.18 ] )-> Izgleda da si od GUI video samo Windows. Posto me prozivaju, da se javim. :) Dakle, stvarno nikad nisam video macov OS, ali, prema onome sto sam cuo, to je windows (NT :). Zar moze tu vise ista da se kaze? Naravno, ako gresim, ispravite me... I, dajte malo podataka o softveru na mac-u... Gde se nabavlja?
mac.5 kermit, -> #4, ognjen
RE. ali, prema onome sto sam cuo, to je windows (NT :). Zar moze tu vise ista da se kaze? ODGOVOR: Loše si čuo ili te je neko lagao. WIN sa jedne strane i MAC/ATARI TOS sa druge strane nemaju apsolutno nikakve sličnosti. Toliko su drugačiji da je to čudo jedno. Moraš da vidiš, samo tako će ti biti jasnije :)
mac.7 madamov, -> #4, ognjen
> Dakle, stvarno nikad nisam video macov OS, ali, prema onome sto sam cuo, to > je windows (NT:). Zar moze tu vise ista da se kaze? Ni blizu. B) Windows će proći još par verzija dok ne dođe do onoga što Mac OS ima sada. Sad su otprilike došli do System 2.0. B) > I, dajte malo podataka o softveru na mac-u... Gde se nabavlja? Slično kao i na ostalim mašinama: ako nisi kupio original onda postoje prijatelji. Pričali smo dosta o ovome u ORKA.3:mac.
mac.8 madamov, -> #6, .bale.
> Možda nekoga interesuje Naravno da nas interesuje. B) Pri kraju ORKA.3 ostavih ja jedan od sredine januara skinut sa nekog BBS-a. Ti si na boljem izvoru informacija. B) > Imam još nekoliko starijih brojeva, vičite ako treba Treba.
mac.9 janko, -> #3, msijanec
> U prethodnoj arhivi ORKA.3 pod rednim brojem 10.419 bilo > je postavljeno pitanje u vezi malog programa koji može da > učitava i vrši elementarnu modifikaciju PICT sličica. > Šaljem vam DA koji može i PICT i TIFF fajlove da učita i > da obradi. Ubacite ga ili pomoću sutkejsa ( suitcase :))) > ) ili nedaj bože pomoću FonćDA Muvera. Nije baš moćan al' > je mali. Hvala najlepše. Pogledaću.... Još uvek mi treba tako nešto. Videću da li radi ono što mi treba. (BTW. Na Sistemu 7 ne bi trebalo ni sjutkejs ni muver, trebalo bi da radi bilo odakle, koliko znam)
mac.10 janko,
Uz poruku DeMacBin za PC, verzija 0.2 -- sada daje i datum kreiranja i modifikacije fajla, i ima ispravljen jedan nezgodan bag (na sreću, izgleda da ga do sada niko nije primetio :) ). Sada sam vrlo ubeđen da više nema bagova. Datumi se ispisuju u formatu koji ste odabrali u DOS-ovom COUNTRY INFO. Između ostalog, DeMacBin vam je neophodan da biste mogli da koristite UNSTUFF za DOS. Nad MacBinarizovanom StuffIt arhivom prvo uradite DeMacBin, preimenujte rezultujući .df u .sit i pozovite UNSTUFF. EXTRACT (DeCptPro) ume da radi i sa MacBinarizovanim fajlovima. demacbin.exe
mac.11 maksa, -> #4, ognjen
>> Posto me prozivaju, da se javim. :) Dakle, stvarno nikad nisam >> video macov OS, ali, prema onome sto sam cuo, to je windows >> (NT :). Zar moze tu vise ista da se kaze? >> >> Naravno, ako gresim, ispravite me... Grešiš. :) Pre nekoliko godina imao sam sreću da celo jedno leto prebacujem neke programe sa PC-a na Mac-a. Mac beše onaj najprostiji, koji se danas valjda prodaje pod imenom Classic. Jest' da je bio crno - beli, al' i danas kad ga se setim, shvatim da su Windows neuspela budževina. ;)
mac.12 ognjen, -> #11, maksa
)-> Pre nekoliko godina imao sam srecu da celo jedno leto )-> prebacujem neke programe sa PC-a na Mac-a. BTW, mogu li se programi sa PCja (za dos ili win) prebaciti na mac?
mac.13 .bale., -> #8, madamov
ŮŢ> Imam još nekoliko starijih brojeva, vičite ako treba ŮŢ ŮŢ Treba. Ne čujem dobro ;-) Regards from .bale. ! #:*)+-<
mac.14 .bale., -> #8, madamov
Evo ga jedan, ostalo sam pobrisao; biće ubuduće kad stignem... Regards from .bale. ! #:*)+-< tidbits.zip
mac.15 maksa, -> #12, ognjen
>> BTW, mogu li se programi sa PCja (za dos ili win) prebaciti na >> mac? Svaki program može da se prepeva :) za bilo koji kompjuter, samo je pitanje koliko se konkretan zahvat isplati, i koliko si vremena/truda spreman da uložiš. Otkrih Kolumbiju. ;)
mac.17 madamov, -> #12, ognjen
> BTW, mogu li se programi sa PCja (za dos ili win) prebaciti na mac? Ne. Treba da budu napisani za Meka. Na Meku ćeš prebacivanjem samo dobiti fajl s kojim se ništa ne može uraditi osim da se taj EXE pokrene iz PC emulatora.
mac.18 madamov, -> #13, .bale.
> Ne čujem dobro ;-) TREBA!!! B)
mac.16 madamov, -> #9, janko
> (BTW. Na Sistemu 7 ne bi trebalo ni sjutkejs ni muver, trebalo bi da radi > bilo odakle, koliko znam) Bilo odakle, samo da se desk accessory nalazi izvan koferčeta. Ukoliko je unutar koferčeta, mora preko Suitcasea ili da se ubaci u Apple Menu Items folder.
mac.19 madamov, -> #14, .bale.
> Evo ga jedan, ostalo sam pobrisao; biće ubuduće kad stignem... Puno hvala. Lepo je što nisu mnog dugački pa ćeš valjda stići...
mac.20 ognjen, -> #17, madamov
)-> Ne. Treba da budu napisani za Meka. Na Meku ces prebacivanjem )-> samo dobiti fajl s kojim se nista ne moze uraditi osim da se )-> taj EXE pokrene iz PC emulatora. A, kakav je emulator? Brz?
mac.21 kermit, -> #20, ognjen
A, kakav je emulator? Brz? ------------------------------- Na Qadri 950 emulira i koprocesor, a brz je ko zmaj (ladno radi ko 286 al ne znam na koliko, perverzno bi bilo da pustim CHECKIT) :))
mac.22 meda, -> #8, madamov
>>> Mozda nekoga interesuje >> >> Naravno da nas interesuje. B) Pri kraju ORKA.3 ostavih ja >> jedan od sredine januara skinut sa nekog BBS-a. Ti si na >> boljem izvoru informacija. B) >> >>> Imam jos nekoliko starijih brojeva, vicite ako treba >> >> Treba. Sticajem okolnosti sa dosao do nekih casopisa za MAC, obecao ih drugaru, on se odusevio i koliko je bio odusevljen nikad nije dosao po njih :((. Zato sam se ukljucio u vase carstvo i ako ste zainteresovani, "prvih tri citaoca poruke"... :). Salim se dogovorite se pa da pravim ljudima za MAC, ako zele to ustupim. Neki su noviji neki stariji, ja to ne pratim, a postoji i sansa da jos neki stigne :). Pozdrav Milan
mac.24 madamov, -> #22, meda
> Neki su noviji neki stariji, ja to ne pratim, a postoji i sansa da jos neki > stigne :). Ako nije teško napiši nam od kada su, tj. iz kojih meseci koji časopis (MacUser, MacWorld...)
mac.23 madamov, -> #20, ognjen
> A, kakav je emulator? Brz? Ne može se reći da je brz, dosta zavisi i koliko je brza mašina na kojoj je startovan. Verzija 2.5 koju ja imam emulira 286 sa CGA/EGA grafikom i koprocesorom (ukoliko Mac na kome startuješ emulator ima koprocesor). SoftPC je došao do verzije 3.1 koja emulira 386 sa VGA grafikom i po reklamama se hvale da je nekoliko puta brža od verzije 2.5. Na Centrisu se za 2.5 može reći da je munja, na ovom mom PowerBooku je upotrebljiv.
mac.25 janko, -> #21, kermit
> Na Qadri 950 emulira i koprocesor, a brz je ko zmaj (ladno > radi ko 286 al ne znam na koliko, perverzno bi bilo da > pustim CHECKIT) :)) Na PowerBook 180c (68030/33) ima brzinu XT-a na 8 MHz, (po onom starom SPEED programu) što se tiče procesora, ali emulacija EGE i CGE mu je primetno sporija... CGA igre u grafičkom modu su neupotrebljivo spore, npr... no uzmite u obzir da to nije ful skrin, nego da je sve u prozorčetu. Kao kuriozitet, u Meku se može uključiti svič da miš radi u DOS prozoru samo za njega. To nisam našao kod Windowsa? Ako imaš Kvadricu, bilo bi zanimljivo da ipak pustiš neki od tih programčića koji mere brzinu...
mac.26 madamov, -> #25, janko
> ima brzinu XT-a na 8 MHz, (po onom starom SPEED programu) Taj SPEED mi davao isti rezultat na raznim mašinama (ci, PB 160, fx, Centris 650), kao i slična opcija iz pcshell-a, a golim okom se vidi da Centris emulira brže od, recimo, fx-a. Trebalo bi neki upotebljiviji test da nađemo. Kad nađem vremena pustiću, recimo, ZIP da pakuje iste fajlove na Centrisu i PB 160 uz uklučen timer iz SuperClocka pa ćemo da vidimo koliko je brži.
mac.27 madamov, -> #25, janko
> Kao kuriozitet, u Meku se može uključiti svič da miš radi u DOS prozoru samo > za njega. Da, a dok je uključena opcija "Emulate PC mouse" pritisneš Command i onda miš postaje Mekov sve dok držiš Command taster.
mac.28 corto,
Ima li novosti o Quadri sa 486 plocom u prosirenju? Koliko je takva masina upotrebljiva za istovremeni Mac/PC rad ?
mac.29 madamov, -> #28, corto
> Ima li novosti o Quadri sa 486 plocom u prosirenju? Nema nekih noviteta, ukoliko nešto pročitam ili čujem već ću ja to javiti, budi bez brige. B)
mac.30 msijanec, -> #28, corto
> Ima li novosti o Quadri sa 486 plocom u prosirenju? Firma Orange Micro, Inc. reklamira OrangePC NuBus karticu/koprocesor sa performansama 486ice, VGA karticom. Ostale osobenosti: - simultan rad u oba moda Mac/PC - VGA grafika na Mac monitoru - pristup fajlovima iz obe platforme (shared access) - provereno radi DOS 6.0 i Windows 3.1 (u enhaced i protected modu) - jedan AT bus slot - do 16MB memorije na samoj ploči - paralelan i serijski port Cena je US$889. Ako nekoga interesuje da potraži informacije od samog proizvođača, adresa je 1400 N. Lakeview Ave., Anaheim, CA92807 tel: (714) 779-2772 F.
mac.31 corto, -> #30, msijanec
>  performansama 486ice, VGA karticom. Ostale osobenosti: Samo jedno pitanje : SX ili DX ?
mac.32 dmiladinovic, -> #21, kermit
>> Na Qadri 950 emulira i koprocesor, a brz je ko zmaj (ladno radi ko 286 al >> ne znam na koliko, perverzno bi bilo da pustim CHECKIT) :)) Na PowerBook 170, sa 4Mb rama, CHECKIT v3.0 prijavljivao 1.87Mhz. Koprocesor naravno, bez problema prepoznat. (287) Interesantno da je MAC progutao ladno i DOS 6.0 prilikom bootovanja Checkita. Slučajno se zadesilo da je disketa boot...
mac.33 dmiladinovic, -> #25, janko
>> Kao kuriozitet, u Meku se može uključiti svič da miš radi u DOS prozoru >> samo za njega. To nisam našao kod Windowsa? Da samo je nezgodno kad se prebaciš na PC miša, a zaboraviš kako se dotično čudo iskopčava, pa ti potom nikako za rukom ne uspeva izlazak ia emulatora. Usput i windows to radi bez problema, s tim što to zavisi od drivera za DOS-ovog miša, a ne od samog Windows-a.
mac.34 kermit, -> #32, dmiladinovic
Interesantno da je MAC progutao ladno i DOS 6.0 prilikom bootovanja Checkita. Slučajno se zadesilo da je disketa boot... .................. Što da ne, pa kod mene na TT-u SoftPC radi sa dosom 5.0 bez frke. A nije neka razlika u 5.0 - 6.0
mac.35 oldtimer, -> #31, corto
> Samo jedno pitanje : SX ili DX ? Apple has developed a board that offers the ultimate oxymoron of software and hardware: a Mac running DOS programs. This feat is accomplished by placing a 25-MHz 486SX processor, a Chips & Technologies BIOS, a VGA chip set, and some of Apple's custom ASICs (application-specific ICs) on a 68040 Processor Direct Slot plug-in board. The whole affair is dropped into a competitively priced Quadra 610, offering the best of both worlds on one system. The board will cost $500 without memory. MS-DOS 6.2 will be provided, along with utilities like Double Space. A complete Quadra 610 with a keyboard, a 14-inch monitor, 8 MB of RAM, a 160-MB hard drive, built-in Ethernet, and a DOS card should cost about $2000. (novosti.5.microb 4.434) B) Miša
mac.37 madamov, -> #32, dmiladinovic
> Interesantno da je MAC progutao ladno i DOS 6.0 prilikom bootovanja Checkita. > Slučajno se zadesilo da je disketa boot... B) Lepo, što li onda piše da može samo DOS 3.31 koji su stavili uz SoftPC 2.5? Verzija 3.0 dolazi sa DOS 5.0.
mac.39 madamov, -> #35, oldtimer
> Apple has developed a board that offers Ali to nije ono što Filip pomenu. Interesantno je da Orange emulator ide u NuBus, a ovaj Appleov u PDS.
mac.38 madamov, -> #33, dmiladinovic
> Da samo je nezgodno kad se prebaciš na PC miša, a zaboraviš kako se dotično > čudo iskopčava, pa ti potom nikako za rukom ne uspeva izlazak ia emulatora. Force Quit (Command-Option-Escape) uvek upali. B)
mac.36 madamov, -> #30, msijanec
> Firma Orange Micro, Inc. reklamira OrangePC NuBus karticu/koprocesor sa > performansama 486ice, VGA karticom. Ostale osobenosti: To nije ono što Apple "trpa" Quadru 610, a i skuplje je.
mac.40 mikis, -> #32, dmiladinovic
+> Interesantno da je MAC progutao ladno i DOS 6.0 prilikom bootovanja +> Checkita. Slucajno se zadesilo da je disketa boot... Sta je tu cudno? Meni Amiza svaki put pri startovvanju PC emulatora ispise 'Starting MS-DOS...' i "Stacker 3.10 for DOS and Windows' :))
mac.42 janko, -> #33, dmiladinovic
> Usput i windows to radi bez problema, s tim što to zavisi > od drivera za DOS-ovog miša, a ne od samog Windows-a. Koliko znam drajver za miša daju sami Prozori? E taj to ne radi.
mac.43 oldtimer, -> #39, madamov
> Ali to nije ono što Filip pomenu. Interesantno je da Orange emulator ide u > NuBus, a ovaj Appleov u PDS. Znam da nije, ali me zanima šta će od ovoga biti najbolja varijanta, jer će se kod mene u firmi verovatno ići na to rešenje. Tako možemo konačno da eliminišemo PC. Ono što je sad zanimljivo je stepen kompatibilnosti i, naravno, odnos cena/performanse. B) Miša
mac.45 dmiladinovic, -> #37, madamov
>> B) Lepo, što li onda piše da može samo DOS 3.31 koji su stavili uz SoftPC Pa verovatno nisu računali na glupe svbe... He,he, znaš ono o Marfijevim pravilima ? :)
mac.44 dmiladinovic, -> #34, kermit
>> Što da ne, pa kod mene na TT-u SoftPC radi sa dosom 5.0 bez frke. A nije >> neka razlika u 5.0 - 6.0 Jest da, s tim što 6.0 ima i dblspace, a to je već interesantno.
mac.46 dmiladinovic, -> #38, madamov
>> Force Quit (Command-Option-Escape) uvek upali. B) Ma sad znam i ja. Problem je u tome što u adekvatnom trenutku nisam znao, pa je bilo belaja. Poneki put nije ni tako loše pročitati uputstvo. :)
mac.48 madamov, -> #45, dmiladinovic
> Pa verovatno nisu računali na glupe svbe... Verovatno. B) Ja probao i Windows da instaliram, ali me SoftPC sa indignacijom odbio pa nisam ni pokušavao sa nekom većom verzijom DOS-a.
mac.47 madamov, -> #43, oldtimer
> Tako možemo konačno da eliminišemo PC. Dok ga ne eliminišete jedno pitanje: da li vam je PC umrežen sa Mekovima? Ako jeste, da li ste mu kupili LocalTalk karticu? Ovo pitam jer i mene potencijalni Mekovci pitaju kako to funkcioniše, pa bih voleo da vidim.
mac.49 oldtimer, -> #47, madamov
> Dok ga ne eliminišete jedno pitanje: da li vam je PC umrežen sa Mekovima? > Ako jeste, da li ste mu kupili LocalTalk karticu? Ovo pitam jer i mene > potencijalni Mekovci pitaju kako to funkcioniše, pa bih voleo da vidim. E to je već tužna priča. Mekovi i jedan Sun Sparc rade pod Tops mrežnim softverom, a Tops za PC radi samo u Dosu i uz to ne trpi Novel kartice. Nabavili smo WD Ethercard+ ali ipak umesto Topsa koristim Telnet4Win pa bar FT pije vodu. Sledeći korak je Win4Wrkgrps i strpljivo čekanje da se Microsoft i Apple dogovore oko protokola pa da se mreže vide međusobno. BTW godza reče da je negde dobio pozitivnu informaciju u tom smislu. Dakle, čekamo svetlu budućnost :) B) Miša
mac.50 kermit, -> #44, dmiladinovic
Jest da, s tim što 6.0 ima i dblspace, a to je već interesantno. ............................... Nemam 6.0 ali mogu i to da probam. Samo nisam siguran da iko ko zaista ozbiljno koristi računar u svrhe zarađivanja (a ne igranja) koristi takav softver kao što je dblspace, stacker ili koznašta. Obično se bitne stvari drže mna više mesta odvojeno (syquest, diskete, streamer), a kad ti zvekne particija pod nekim "doublerom" šta onda? Lepa opcija - samo nekorisna
mac.51 corto, -> #43, oldtimer
>  konacno da eliminisemo PC. Ono sto je sad zanimljivo je stepen >  kompatibilnosti i, naravno, odnos cena/performanse. Zanimljivo je i sta sve od PC poslova to moze da radi. Jeste, JAKo me zanima da li ce da prozvace AutoCAD, jer ako on prodje ..... sve drugo prolazi ;)
mac.52 corto, -> #50, kermit
>  pod nekim "doublerom" sta onda? Lepa opcija - samo nekorisna Potpisujem! Da ne spominjem sto usporava do besvesti ... bar kad sam probao, cela dva dana ;)
mac.54 dmiladinovic, -> #48, madamov
>> Verovatno. B) Ja probao i Windows da instaliram, ali me SoftPC sa Pa ti si luđi i od mene. :) Mada mi neko reče da postoji neka mogućnost da se na Mek-u dignu Winowsi. Na stranu to što bi to bila čista glupost...
mac.53 dmiladinovic, -> #50, kermit
>> Nemam 6.0 ali mogu i to da probam. Samo nisam siguran da iko ko zaista Ma omašio si poentu. Nije važno da li neko voli/nevoli štakore, već da je MAK progutao DBLSPACE.INI,BIN u svom emulatoru za PrC. E sad, nisam bio dovoljno zaludan da dižem dupliran disk, al vrlo verovatno bi i to radilo. Inače kad sam imao disk od 120Mb, koristio sam staker i to obilato, al sad mi više ne treba.
mac.55 madamov, -> #49, oldtimer
> Mekovi i jedan Sun Sparc rade pod Tops mrežnim softverom To je i logično, koliko se sećam Sun je i napisao TOPS. Takođe, koliko se sećam, TOPS ne smeta System 7 file sharingu tako da bi trebalo da rade paralelno što je dobro ukoliko imate još Mekova koji treba da komuniciraju između sebe. > Nabavili smo WD Ethercard+ ali ipak umesto Topsa koristim Telnet4Win pa bar > FT pije vodu. Wow, jeste li na Meka stavili onda MacTCP? To bi se trebalo videti. > Dakle, čekamo svetlu budućnost :) Sad je kasno, pošto vidim da ste prešli na Ethernet, ali možda je trebalo pazariti Farallonovu LocalTalk karticu za PC, uz nju ide softver kojim se bar Windows ponaša kao Mek sa TOPS-om i Systemom 6.0.x. Nisam video, pročitao sam u nekom MacUseru čini mi se.
mac.56 madamov, -> #54, dmiladinovic
> Pa ti si luđi i od mene. :) Jesam. B) SoftPC se nije bunio, već mi je Windows kod onog kad javlja "Checking your system configuration" ili tako nešto javio grešku koju sam video prvi put u životu, nešto u vezi sa memorijom. > Mada mi neko reče da postoji neka mogućnost da se na Mek-u dignu Winowsi. Nova verzija SoftPC-a, 3.0, ide u tri varijante od kojih je jedna SoftPC with Windows. Kažu da radi, ali da je očajno sporo. Orangeov PC emulator se reklamira tako što se vidi na reklami jedan Appleov monitor sa otvorenih nekoliko prozora a u jednom od njih se vidi Windows.
mac.57 oldtimer, -> #55, madamov
> Wow, jeste li na Meka stavili onda MacTCP? To bi se trebalo videti. Na Meku radi Versaterm i sve giba. > Sad je kasno, pošto vidim da ste prešli na Ethernet, ali možda je trebalo Ma već smo imali neke mrežne kartice za PC, pa daj šta daš samo da se pokrene. B) Miša
mac.58 oldtimer, -> #51, corto
> Zanimljivo je i sta sve od PC poslova to moze da radi. Jeste, JAKo me > zanima da li ce da prozvace AutoCAD, jer ako on prodje ..... sve drugo > prolazi ;) Zato sam i stavio kompatibilnost na čelo spiska :) Ako pokrene WIn, Quark, Illustrator i Corel, ja sam zadovoljan. B) Miša
mac.59 mikis, -> #58, oldtimer
+> Ako pokrene WIn, Quark, Illustrator i Corel, ja sam zadovoljan. Kuku, sta ce ti to pored zivog Meka? ;)) Ozbiljno, zar Quark i Illustrator za PC i Meka nisu potpuno fajl-kompatibilni? Trebalo bi bez problema da citaju podatke sa obe platforme.
mac.60 wizard, -> #51, corto
2> zanima da li ce da prozvace AutoCAD, jer ako on prodje ..... sve drugo > prolazi ;) Osim možda poneke igre...
mac.61 oldtimer, -> #59, mikis
> Kuku, sta ce ti to pored zivog Meka? ;)) Ozbiljno, zar Quark i > Illustrator za PC i Meka nisu potpuno fajl-kompatibilni? Trebalo bi bez > problema da citaju podatke sa obe platforme. Ne pomenu Corel :) Sve što želim je da neka Mek aplikacija može da importuje fajl iz Corela, u kome, nažalost, još uvek radi gomila ljudi koji nemaju Mekove. Dok je to tako moram da imam i PC da bi se nekako odradile gimanstike glede prebacivanja iz Corela u druge programe pa na Mek sa koga se filmuje. B) Miša
mac.63 madamov, -> #59, mikis
> Trebalo bi bez problema da citaju podatke sa obe platforme. Valjda zbog toga ako nastanu problemi pri prebacivanju.
mac.62 madamov, -> #57, oldtimer
> Na Meku radi Versaterm i sve giba. Versaterm Pro ima neke INITe koji mu omogućavaju da se spoji TCP-om, pun mi System folder bio toga kada sam preuzimao ovog PowerBooka. B)
mac.64 mikis, -> #61, oldtimer
+> Ne pomenu Corel :) Sve sto zelim je da neka Mek aplikacija moze da +> importuje fajl iz Corela, u kome, nazalost, jos uvek radi gomila ljudi +> koji nemaju Mekove. Nisam pomenuo, mislio sam da se podrazumeva :) Valjda Corel moze da eksportuje fajlove u EPS formatu, koji je default Illustratorov format. Trebalo bi da moze, ako je neki program :))
mac.65 mikis, -> #63, madamov
+> > Trebalo bi bez problema da citaju podatke sa obe platforme. +> +> Valjda zbog toga ako nastanu problemi pri prebacivanju. Ne razumem na sta mislis. NE BI SMELO da bude problema. Osim toga, ne vidim kako bi kupovina PC kartice za Mac resila taj problem. Jes, postoji jos jedno resenje. Adobe Acrobat ;))
mac.67 madamov, -> #65, mikis
> Jes, postoji jos jedno resenje. Adobe Acrobat ;)) B) Šta misliš zašto se zove Acrobat? B)
mac.66 madamov, -> #64, mikis
> Valjda Corel moze da eksportuje fajlove u EPS formatu, koji je default > Illustratorov format. Može, ali to tako očajno loše radi...
mac.68 oldtimer, -> #66, madamov
>> Valjda Corel moze da eksportuje fajlove u EPS formatu, koji je default >> Illustratorov format. > Može, ali to tako očajno loše radi... Line art eksportuje korektno, ali zato su rasteri očajni :( B) Miša
mac.69 oldtimer, -> #67, madamov
> B) Šta misliš zašto se zove Acrobat? B) Ima li to neke veze s onim što ja zovem gimnastika :)) B) Miša
mac.70 mikis, -> #68, oldtimer
+> > Moze, ali to tako ocajno lose radi... +> +> Line art eksportuje korektno, ali zato su rasteri ocajni :( Tako dobar program? Cccc... ;>>> Cujem da izlazi Corel 5.0. Mozda ce on popraviti situaciju ;) Nego, i dalje mi nije jasno kako bi PC kartica popravila stvar (cini mi se da je o tome bilo reci) ?
mac.71 oldtimer, -> #70, mikis
> Nego, i dalje mi nije jasno kako bi PC kartica popravila stvar (cini > mi se da je o tome bilo reci) ? I nije ideja da reši taj problem, već da u firmi imamo samo Mekove, na kojima i inače odrađujemo sav posao. PC je ovde potreban samo radi interfejsa s ljudima van firme koji donose poslove _urađene_ u Corelu ili drugim PC programima. B) Miša
mac.72 corto, -> #70, mikis
>  Tako dobar program? Cccc... ;>>> Cujem da izlazi Corel 5.0. >  Mozda ce on popraviti situaciju ;) Hoce, za proizvodjace diskova ;>
mac.73 mikis, -> #71, oldtimer
+> PC je ovde potreban samo radi +> interfejsa s ljudima van firme koji donose poslove _uradene_ u Corelu +> ili drugim PC programima. OK, a sta cete onda sa njima, ako smem da pitam? :) Mislim, ne razumem kako bi PC kartica tu pomogla? Cini mi se da se za iste pare moze uzeti neki PC...
mac.74 msijanec,
Da li ste se ikada našli u situaciji da vam mek izbaci poruku 'greška XXX se pojavila, bla, bla...' a da vam to baš ništa ne govori o tome o kakvoj se grešci zapravo radi? E, pa čovek koji je ovo napisao i sam kaže da mu je prekipelo pa je napisao ovaj mali, beskrajno zgodan tumač kodova grešaka. Siguran sam da će vam se svideti. Sledi... macerr.sit
mac.75 msijanec,
Za mene je ovo nezamenljiva alatka. Filtyper 4.0 kompletan sa uputstvom i verzijama za sistem 6 i sledi... filetype.sit
mac.76 msijanec,
Povodom ne tako davnog zahteva za nekim malim programčićem za crtkanje, evo još jednog takvog utilitija. Snima slikice u macpiaint i macdraw (PICT) formatima. ... lightpnt.sit
mac.77 oldtimer, -> #73, mikis
> OK, a sta cete onda sa njima, ako smem da pitam? :) Mislim, ne > razumem kako bi PC kartica tu pomogla? Cini mi se da se za iste pare > moze uzeti neki PC... Stvar je u povećanju broja radnih mesta. To treba da budu Mekovi. Trenutno imamo 3 PC-a kojih bi se rado oslobodili, a kartice bi baš to omogućile. B) Miša
mac.78 corto, -> #73, mikis
>  razumem kako bi PC kartica tu pomogla? Cini mi se da se za >  iste pare moze uzeti neki PC... Ljudi hoce da se ratosiljaju PC-ja altogether. Kako sam imao prilike da vidim postojecu masineriju uzivo, potpuno se slazem s odlukom. pored onih azbaha PC zaista nema sta da trazi.
mac.80 nnenad,
Ko ima fax modem neka proba program. FaxMonitor, FaxPrinti FaxSpoolf staviti u SystemFolder. FaxStatus je DA pa ga prebacite pomocu Font/DA Mover-a u sistem. Posle ovoga restartujte pa u Chooser-u odabrite FaxPrint i tu podesite zeljene parametre.
mac.81 jmodli,
Subject: modeli i cene prijatelj mi je trazio neke cene i modele mekova koji su pogodni za dtp i dizajn - a da mogu da se porede sa 486dx2/66, 8mb ram, 420mb hd i win-svga, po kvalitetu i po ceni. isto tako i da li je moguca pc kompatibilnost (tj. hardverska emulacija) i po kojoj ceni (minimum 386/40). naravno, i gde je to moguce nabaviti kod nas (novo, polovno...). . Do not try to take this text serious. It was written in an illegal state . . of drug abuse. The best computer do not exists. Nor do I. Probably the . . best thing you can do, is to flame it. .
mac.82 oldtimer, -> #78, corto
> Ljudi hoce da se ratosiljaju PC-ja altogether. Kako sam imao prilike da > vidim postojecu masineriju uzivo, potpuno se slazem s odlukom. pored > onih azbaha PC zaista nema sta da trazi. Moraćeš da navratiš opet :)) Stižu dve nove životinje ovih dana ;) B) Miša
mac.83 janko, -> #76, msijanec
> Povodom ne tako davnog zahteva za nekim malim programčićem > za crtkanje, evo još jednog takvog utilitija. Snima > slikice u macpiaint i macdraw (PICT) formatima. Najlepše zahvaljujem. Pogledao sam oba. DeskPaint radi samo MacPaint slikice (72 dpi, 576x720 tačaka). Lightning Paint je svežiji šerver program, sa nekim zanimljivim mogućnostima, može da crta i u 300 dpi i da snima u PICT formatu. Radi efektno, to što radi, bar po uputstvu, u kome su demonstrirani neki efekti. Još uvek nemam neki Draw program, (MacDraw, ili neki njegov klon?) koji je, u stvari, onaj pravi za generisanje PICT slikica. PICT slikice su mi zanimljive jer njih podržava direktno operativni sistem, na neki način, pa se u resurse programa UVEK ugrađuju PICT slike. Ono što je glavna osobina PICT slike je da za postojeći font tekst može da pamti i u obliku -- jedno slovo jedan bajt, na primer. Takođe, za linije se pamte samo početna i krajnja tačka, a ne bitmapirani imidž itd... Zna li neko u čemu je razlika imeđu PICT i PICT2 formata?
mac.84 corto, -> #82, oldtimer
>  Moraces da navratis opet :)) Stizu dve nove zivotinje ovih >  dana ;) Pa zovi, covece !
mac.86 madamov, -> #75, msijanec
> Filtyper 4.0 kompletan sa uputstvom Moraću da svratim do stare ORKA:3 i obrišem stariju verziju. A taman joj dadoh resign. B)
mac.85 madamov, -> #73, mikis
> Cini mi se da se za iste pare moze uzeti neki PC... Takve snage? Teško. A koliko sam načuo, ova Appleova kartica odmah omogućava komunikaciju preko LocalTalk porta, što će reći deljenje štampača i umrežavanje. Još ako uz nju dolazi neki softver koji to lepo radi, tj. da se taj PC na kartici vidi kao Mac pod System 7 file sharingom, izbor je jasan.
mac.88 madamov, -> #80, nnenad
> Ko ima fax modem neka proba program. Ups, prepoznajem stvar i sva sreća da je ne ostavi. Reč je o PSI Fax softveru, ukoliko je još instaliran bolje ga ne ostavljaj, postoje instalacione diskete.
mac.87 madamov, -> #79, nnenad
> proba Proba čega?
mac.89 madamov, -> #81, jmodli
> prijatelj mi je trazio neke cene i modele mekova koji su pogodni za dtp > i dizajn - a da mogu da se porede sa 486dx2/66, 8mb ram, 420mb hd i win-svga Oko modela se da pričati, oko cena teško. Ako nema baš preterano para na raspolaganju onda neka razmisli o Quadra 610 ili Quadra 650 modelima. Oni imaju već ugrađenih 8Mb RAM-a, a mogu se naći u konfiguracijama sa 230Mb i 500Mb diskovima. Ako želi high-end, onda Quadra 840AV. > isto tako i da li je moguca pc kompatibilnost (tj. hardverska emulacija) i po > kojoj ceni (minimum 386/40). Moguća je, o tome baš pričamo po ovoj temi ovih dana. B) Quadra 610 for DOS dolazi sa 486SX karticom u PDS slotu. Orijentaciona cena je oko $500. > naravno, i gde je to moguce nabaviti kod nas (novo, polovno...). Kod nas teško.
mac.90 jmodli, -> #89, madamov
Subject: mozda moze ovo... > Oko modela se da pricati, oko cena tesko. Ako nema bas preterano para na > raspolaganju onda neka razmisli o Quadra 610 ili Quadra 650 modelima. Oni iskreno, nemam pojma sta Quadre imaju u sebi, ali pretpostavljam da je MC68040 (na koliko Mhz?). da li neko ima iskustva sa njima? (i kakva su iskustva, naravno.) koja je cena Quadri? (i koje su konfiguracije, ali ovoga puta inostranstvo.) inace, nasao sam Amigu 4000/040 sa hardverskom emulacijom pisija (486/25) i mekintosa (Quadra 900), sa 8Mb RAM-a i 240Mb hard diskom, sve za cenu od 2800 dolara. ovo nije provociranje (to je ostavljeno za najbolji) nego me interesuje da li je cena Quadre 610/DOS znacajno manja tj. sta je isplativije. . going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than going to a . . garage makes you an automobile. .
mac.91 corto, -> #89, madamov
>  Moguca je, o tome bas pricamo po ovoj temi ovih dana. B) >  Quadra 610 for DOS dolazi sa 486SX karticom u PDS slotu. >  Orijentaciona cena je oko $500. Samo kartica ? Zvuci tako, znaci s Quadrom bi bilo red velicine .... ? >  Kod nas tesko. Pa nije valjda da bas niko nema kanal za dotur Mekica ?????
mac.93 iboris, -> #82, oldtimer
Ł Moraćeš da navratiš opet :)) Stižu dve nove životinje ovih dana ;) Od koje su vrste te životinje ? :))
mac.94 corto, -> #93, iboris
>  Od koje su vrste te zivotinje ? :)) Koliko sm cuo u Klubu, Quadre .... sa mnooogo RAM-a ;)
mac.95 madamov, -> #83, janko
> Zna li neko u čemu je razlika imeđu PICT i PICT2 formata? Inside Macintosh, Volume V, strana 84: DIFFERENCES BETWEEN VERSION 1 AND VERSION 2 PICTURES The major differences between version 1 and version 2 pictures are listed below. - Version 1 opcodes are a single byte; version 2 opcodes are 2 bytes in length. This means that old opcodes in a version 2 picture take up two bytes, not one. - Version 1 data may start on byte boundaries; version 2 opcodes and data are always word-aligned. - In version 2, the high bit of the rowBytes field is used to indicate a pixMap instead of a bitMap; pixData then replaces bitData. - All unused version 2 opcodes, as well as the number of data bytes associated with each, have been defined. This was done so that picture parsing code can safely ignore unknown opcodes, enabling future use of these opcodes in a backward-compatible manner. Inače, PICT format je relativno jednostavan, s tim što postoji tušta i tma onoga što se u prethodnom tekstu nazivalo opcode. To su jednostavno komande svojevrsnog jezika za opis slike. Da bih detaljno opisao PICT, morao bih da ispišem sve što se može pročitati u IMV o Color QuickDraw menadžeru, a za to nemam vremena, nadam se da je ovo dovoljno.
mac.96 madamov, -> #90, jmodli
> nemam pojma sta Quadre imaju u sebi, ali pretpostavljam da je MC68040 (na > koliko Mhz?) Svi modeli koji sada nose oznaku Quadra imaju 68040. Doduše, Quadra 605 ima 68LC040. Takođe i Quadra 610 u svojoj osnovnoj varijanti sa 8Mb RAM i 160 Mb hard diskom. Ona sa 230Mb hard diskom ima "pravi" 68040. Quadra 610 ima 68040 na 25MHz, 650 na 33MHz. > da li neko ima iskustva sa njima? S njima baš ne, mada oldtimer pominje dolazak nekih novih mašina, pretpostavljam da tu ima neka od ovih. Što se Quadre 650 tiče, s obzirom da je ona takoreći preimenovani Centris 650, može se reći da imam iskustva s njim. > ovo nije provociranje (to je ostavljeno za najbolji) nego me interesuje da li > je cena Quadre 610/DOS znacajno manja tj. sta je isplativije. Quadra 610, 8 Mb RAM, 230 Mb hard disk košta oko $1700. Taj hardverski emulator je poskupljuje za red veličine $500, neko pomenu da je i jeftinije. Dodaš tastaturu i monitor koji želiš i dobiješ cenu otprilike negde istu, tj. oko $2800.
mac.98 madamov, -> #94, corto
> Koliko sm cuo u Klubu, Quadre .... sa mnooogo RAM-a ;) Pazi, sve što sada kupiš i doteraš ovamo ima oznaku Quadra, to je ta nova politika imenovanja mašina. Pitanje je koje, ali naslućujem da nije ništa ispod Quadra 650 makina. B)
mac.97 madamov, -> #91, corto
> Samo kartica ? Zvuci tako, znaci s Quadrom bi bilo red velicine .... ? Ne znam u koji od podmodela Qaudre 610 ugrađuju emulator, a cene nekih modela su trenutno kod MacOne sledeće: - sa 8Mb RAM, 160Mb hard diskom $1350 - sa 8Mb RAM, 230Mb hard diskom $1699 - sa 8Mb RAM, 230Mb hard diskom i CD-om $1970 > Pa nije valjda da bas niko nema kanal za dotur Mekica ????? Kanal da on donese a ti odeš kod njega i kupiš ne postoji. Ako se pojaviš sa željom da hoćeš to i to moguće je doterati, ali treba još dosta toga ukalkulisati (kršenje embarga i slično). B)
mac.100 madamov,
THIS RELEASE MOVED OVER PR NEWSWIRE ON FRIDAY, MARCH 4, 1994 AT 8:05 AM, EST Contact: Emma Bufton Regis McKenna, Inc. (408) 974-1856 Jennie Shikashio Regis McKenna, Inc. (408) 974-4104 Apple Computer Makes Six Newton Announcements CUPERTINO, California--March 4, 1994---Apple Computer, Inc. expanded the scope of its Newton technology today with a suite of announcements regarding new products, computer connectivity, and developer tools. The announcements include the following: - Newton MessagePad 110 Announced The Newton MessagePad 110 incorporates many new improvements, features, and design modifications which are based upon suggestions from customers and licensees. The MessagePad 110 has 3 times the user space (the amount of memory available to the user for data storage) of the original Newton MessagePad; longer battery life (alkaline battery life has been doubled and NiCD battery life has been tripled); and a fast recharge feature which enables NiCD batteries to be fully recharged in 2-3 hours. The new industrial design features a protective lid, a round telescopic pen, and a narrower, sleeker form factor. Among the new software features are: - deferred handwriting recognition - letter-by-letter recognition - easier addition of new names to personal wordlist and Names File - faster infrared transfers All the software updates released since the launch of the original Newton MessagePad have been incorporated into the Read Only Memory (ROM) of all new Newton MessagePad systems. The Newton MessagePad 110 will be available from today across the United States in more than 2,000 computer retailers, Apple resellers and consumer electronic stores. The Newton MessagePad 110 is expected to be available in Canada and the United Kingdom later in March 1994, and in some international markets later in 1994. The Apple price for the Newton MessagePad 110 is US$599. - Newton MessagePad 100 Announced To give customers a choice between the original Newton MessagePad form factor and that of the new MessagePad 110, Apple today announced plans to introduce the Newton MessagePad 100. This device will provide the new, improved software functionality of the MessagePad 110, while maintaining the popular form factor of the original Newton MessagePad. The Newton MessagePad 100 is expected to be available in the United States and the United Kingdom in April 1994, and in some international markets later in 1994. The Apple price for the Newton MessagePad 100 is US$499. - Upgrade Program For Original MessagePad Owners To enable Newton customers to benefit from the rapid evolution of Newton technology, Apple will offer existing owners of the Newton MessagePad an attractive upgrade program. The Newton software upgrade program will give the original Newton MessagePad the new, improved software functionality of the MessagePad 110. Customers availing of the upgrade program will also be offered a choice of two Newton software products, included in the upgrade price. The upgrade will be available in the United States starting April 1994 by calling 1-800-SOS-APPL, in the United Kingdom in April 1994, and in some other international markets later in 1994. The Apple price for the Newton software upgrade (including two Newton software products) is US$99, plus shipping and handling. - Newton Connection v 2.0 for Macintosh Ships Newton Connection v 2.0 enables users to exchange and share their MessagePad information---notes, letters, name-cards, to-do lists, appointments, and even information created with many third party applications---with common desktop personal information management (PIM), word-processing, spreadsheet and database applications, running on the Macintosh platform. It also enables users to access and edit MessagePad information easily using common desktop applications with which they may already be familiar. Newton Connection kit v 2.00 for Macintosh was rolled out today across the United States, and is expected be available in computer retailers, campus resellers, consumer electronics stores and K-12 institutions. The Apple price of Newton Connection kit v 2.0 for Macintosh is US$99. - New Version of the Newton Toolkit To Ship Soon This new version of the Newton Toolkit--the comprehensive developer system for the Newton platform--is anticipated to be available in early April 1994. The Newton Toolkit is a powerful, sophisticated, yet easy to learn development environment designed to reduce significantly the time taken to develop creative Newton applications. Among the enhancements to the Toolkit are graphical tools, special utilities and Newton Book Maker--a new tool for publishers which facilitates the creation of electronic books. - StarCore offers The Newton Solution Apple is offering three Newton software packages from StarCore, each containing a suite of business solutions designed to help mobile executives work more effectively. Each Newton Solution package is compatible with all products in the Newton family, and incorporates two applications designed to meet the needs of sales people, mobile professionals or business executives. Apple plans to release The Newton Solution packages in March 1994 at an Apple price of US$199. The value of the applications plus the flash card, if purchased separately, is approximately US$400, making The Newton Solution packages good value for business users. Headquartered in Cupertino, California, Apple Computer, Inc. develops, manufactures and markets personal computer, server and personal interactive electronic systems for use in business, education, home, science, engineering and government. A recognized pioneer and innovator in the personal computer industry, Apple does business in more than 120 countries across the world. -30- Apple, the Apple logo, Macintosh and Newton are registered trademarks. MessagePad and StarCore are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink Pathway Apple Press Releases PR Express Apple & Industry News News Break
mac.99 madamov,
THIS RELEASE MOVED PR NEWSWIRE ON FRIDAY, MARCH 4, 1994 AT 8:16 AM, EST. Contact: Emma Bufton Regis McKenna, Inc. (408) 974-1856 Jennie Shikashio Regis McKenna, Inc. (408) 974-4104 Apple Expands The Newton Product Family Apple Ships the Newton MessagePad 110 and the Newton MessagePad 100, and Offers An Upgrade Program For Original MessagePad Owners CUPERTINO, California--March 4, 1994--Expanding the capabilities of Newton technology, Apple Computer, Inc. today announced the Newton MessagePad 110, the most recent addition to the Newton MessagePad family. The Newton MessagePad 110 incorporates many new improvements, features, and design modifications which are based upon suggestions from customers and licensees. With this announcement, Apple underscores its commitment to provide its customers with leading-edge technology, and to respond quickly to the diverse needs of mobile professionals. Newton MessagePad 110 The MessagePad 110 has 3 times the user space (the amount of memory available to the user for data storage) of the original Newton MessagePad; longer battery life (alkaline battery life has been doubled and NiCD battery life has been tripled); and a fast recharge feature which enables NiCD batteries to be fully recharged in 2-3 hours. The new industrial design features a protective lid, a round telescopic pen, and a narrower, sleeker form factor. Among the new software features are: - deferred handwriting recognition - letter-by-letter recognition - easier addition of new names to personal wordlist and Names File - faster infrared transfers All the software updates released since the launch of the original Newton MessagePad have been incorporated into the Read Only Memory (ROM) of all new Newton MessagePad systems. "Apple continues to play a leading role in the development of the emerging personal digital assistant (PDA) industry," said Gaston Bastiaens, vice president and general manager of Apple's Personal Interactive Electronics (PIE) division. "To that end we continue to solicit valuable feedback from MessagePad users and licensees of Newton technology, to incorporate this into our software development, and to provide groundbreaking solutions for our customers. The Newton MessagePad 110 brings a series of improvements to the original MessagePad, and continues our efforts to lead and define the PDA industry." Newton MessagePad 100 To give customers a choice between the original Newton MessagePad form factor and that of the new MessagePad 110, Apple today announced plans to introduce the Newton MessagePad 100. This device will provide the new, improved software functionality of the MessagePad 110, while maintaining the popular form factor of the original Newton MessagePad. Upgrade Program To enable Newton customers to benefit from the rapid evolution of Newton technology, Apple will offer an attractive upgrade program to existing Newton MessagePad users. The Newton software upgrade program will give the original Newton MessagePad the new, improved software functionality of the MessagePad 110. Included in the the upgrade package will be a choice of two of the following Newton software products: - Newton Connection Kit for Macintosh or Windows - Dell Crossword Puzzles & Other Games on floppy diskette - DrawPad on floppy diskette - Dyno NotePad on floppy diskette. The upgrade will be available starting April 1994 by calling 1-800- SOS-APPL. Software additions to the Newton MessagePad 110 and the Newton MessagePad 100 include: Deferred Recognition Deferred recognition enables people to make notes and later turn some or all the notes into recognized text at leisure. For example, deferred recognition allows people to take notes quickly during a meeting without having to wait for recognition and correction. Later on the user can translate the notes into recognized text. Letter-by-letter Recognition Letter-by-letter recognition enables people to use words which are not in the wordlist, such as names, abbrieviations, acronyms and foreign language words, and add them to the wordlist quickly and easily. This feature allows people to bypass the user wordlist and the wordlist (the Newton dictionary of approximately 13,000 words) contained in the MessagePad ROM. By tapping the letter-by-letter recognizer button, users can instruct the recognizer to decipher individual letters without checking the recognized word against the wordlist. Improved Names File Functionality Letter-by-letter recognition is at its most useful in the Names File, where users enter proper names that are seldom in the wordlist. The increased functionality of the Names File enables people to add names to the wordlist quickly and easily, minimizing the time spent entering data. Distribution and Availability The Newton MessagePad 110 will be available from today across the United States in more than 2,000 computer retailers, Apple resellers and consumer electronic stores. The Newton MessagePad 110 is expected to be available in Canada and the United Kingdom later in March 1994, and in some international markets later in 1994. The Newton MessagePad 100 and the Newton software upgrade are expected to be available in the United States and the United Kingdom in April 1994, and in some international markets later in 1994. Pricing The Apple price for the Newton MessagePad 110 is US$599, and for the Newton MessagePad 100 is US$499. The Apple price for the Newton software upgrade (including two Newton software products) is US$99, plus shipping and handling. Headquartered in Cupertino, California, Apple Computer, Inc. develops, manufactures and markets personal computer, server and personal interactive electronic systems for use in business, education, home, science, engineering and government. A recognized pioneer and innovator in the personal computer industry, Apple does business in more than 120 countries across the world. -30- Apple, the Apple logo, Macintosh and Newton are registered trademarks. MessagePad is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. Note to Editors: See product specificiations for additional detail. AppleLink Pathway Apple Press Releases PR Express Apple & Industry News News Break
mac.103 madamov,
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 09:05:39 +0800 From: Peter N Lewis <peter.lewis@info.curtin.edu.au> Subject: dev/info - MacBinary II Specs Hi, The specs for MB2 seem to have disappeared from the various sites, so here it is, reposted. I didn't write this, I have no connection with it, I'm just posting it. Peter. These are the new changes to the MacBinary Standard, as generally agreed upon in the MacBinary II Conference 6/21/87, and as changed in the followup conference 6/28/87. Revised 7/24/87 to reflect suggestions and clarifications that came later, and to include all necessary information needed from the original MacBinary standard document to implement MacBinary II. The new standard will be very similar to the original MacBinary standard as described in [MacBinary Standard]. (Reading the original standard is recommended for a full understanding of implementation and philosophy behind the MacBinary I and II formats.) The binary format consists of a 128-byte header containing all the information necessary to reproduce the document's directory entry on the receiving Macintosh; followed by the document's Data Fork (if it has one), padded with nulls to a multiple of 128 bytes (if necessary); followed by the document's Resource Fork (again, padded if necessary). The lengths of these forks (either or both of which may be zero) are contained in the header. The format of the header for MacBinary II is as follows: Offset 000-Byte, old version number, must be kept at zero for compatibility Offset 001-Byte, Length of filename (must be in the range 1-63) Offset 002-1 to 63 chars, filename (only "length" bytes are significant). Offset 065-Long Word, file type (normally expressed as four characters) Offset 069-Long Word, file creator (normally expressed as four characters) Offset 073-Byte, original Finder flags Bit 7 - Locked. Bit 6 - Invisible. Bit 5 - Bundle. Bit 4 - System. Bit 3 - Bozo. Bit 2 - Busy. Bit 1 - Changed. Bit 0 - Inited. Offset 074-Byte, zero fill, must be zero for compatibility Offset 075-Word, file's vertical position within its window. Offset 077-Word, file's horizontal position within its window. Offset 079-Word, file's window or folder ID. Offset 081-Byte, "Protected" flag (in low order bit). Offset 082-Byte, zero fill, must be zero for compatibility Offset 083-Long Word, Data Fork length (bytes, zero if no Data Fork). Offset 087-Long Word, Resource Fork length (bytes, zero if no R.F.). Offset 091-Long Word, File's creation date Offset 095-Long Word, File's "last modified" date. Offset 099-Word, length of Get Info comment to be sent after the resource fork (if implemented, see below). *Offset 101-Byte, Finder Flags, bits 0-7. (Bits 8-15 are already in byte 73) *Offset 116-Long Word, Length of total files when packed files are unpacked. This is only used by programs that pack and unpack on the fly, mimicing a standalone utility such as PackIt. A program that is uploading a single file must zero this location when sending a file. Programs that do not unpack/uncompress files when downloading may ignore this value. *Offset 120-Word, Length of a secondary header. If this is non-zero, Skip this many bytes (rounded up to the next multiple of 128) This is for future expansion only, when sending files with MacBinary, this word should be zero. *Offset 122-Byte, Version number of Macbinary II that the uploading program is written for (the version begins at 129) *Offset 123-Byte, Minimum MacBinary II version needed to read this file (start this value at 129 129) *Offset 124-Word, CRC of previous 124 bytes *This is newly defined for MacBinary II. All values are stored in normal 68000 order, with Most Significant Byte appearing first then the file. Any bytes in the header not defined above should be set to zero. The original MacBinary format was ammended to include the sending of the FCMT (Get Info comment) after the resource fork was sent, if the length for such comment, given in offset 99, is not zero. To the best of our knowledge, no program has implemented this feature, due to Apple's stated position that no program should read or write these comments. The definition remains in MacBinary II, so that should Apple ever provide a documented way of reading and writing these comments, terminal programs will be able to take advantage of this feature. All Finder flags and information would be uploaded, however, a downloading program should clear the Finder flag bits of 0 - Set if file/folder is on the desktop (Finder 5.0 and later) 1 - bFOwnAppl (used internally) 8 - Inited (seen by Finder) 9 - Changed (used internally by Finder) 10 - Busy (copied from File System busy bit) Also, fdLocation and fdFldr should be zeroed To determine if a header is a valid MacBinary header, check bytes 0 and 74 to be both zero. If they are both zero, either (a) the CRC should match, which means it is a MB II file, or (b) byte 82 is zero, which means it may be a MB I file. (Note that, at the current version level, byte 82 is kept zero to maintain compatibility with MacBinary I. If at some point the MacBinary versions change sufficiently that it is necessary to keep MacBinary I programs from downloading these files, we can change byte 82 to non-zero.) If the header is a MB II header, the program will check the minimum version byte, to see if it knows enough to decode the file. If the minimum version in the header is greater than the version that the terminal program was written for, it will download the file as pure XModem (creating a "TEXT" file) and notify the user that conversion is needed because the MacBinary version was too high. If the header does NOT represent a valid MB II header, the program must at minimum check byte 82 to be zero--if it is not zero, the file is not a MB I file. It is possible to write a much more robust routine, by checking the following: Offsets 101-125, Byte, should all be 0. Offset 2, Byte, (the length of the file name) should be in the range of 1-63. Offsets 83 and 87, Long Word, (the length of the forks) should be in the range of 0-$007F FFFF. If any of these tests fail, the file is not a valid MacBinary file. It may still be desirable to distinguish between text files and foreign binary files (for stripping line feeds or similar helpful acts). Some tests that would prove useful include: A quantity of bytes in the first block with the high bit set would point to a binary file (though this could be fooled by files with many extended ascii characters, such as generated by the option key on a Mac). A large quantity of zero bytes (nulls) would also point to a binary file. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This proposal was adopted at two conferences attended by representatives from CompuServe, Delphi and BIX networks, and many terminal software publishers. A partial list of those participating is: Peter Olson/ICONtac Larry Loeb/BIX Neil Shapiro/Maug Mark Hagerman Michael Pester William Bond Bill Steinberg Don Brown Bill Davis Jean Hess Scott Watson Clay Maeckel Harry Chesley Jack Brindle Raines/BMUG Harry Conover Chris Allen/Dreams of the Phoenix
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 12:24:18 -0500 From: mjohnson@apple.com (Mark B. Johnson) Subject: apple-software-policy.txt While any clarification of Apple's software license (the one found on files on ftp.apple.com) needs to come from an Apple attorney, let me spell out the basics for those people who have questions about it. This is purely my own opinion and should not be considered binding. The end-user license basically says that you cannot redistribute this software once you get it from ftp.apple.com or other source that has a redistribution license executed with Apple (that is why we can distribute from ftp.apple.com). The redistribution license is different than the end-user license. If you have an interest in redistribution rights, you will need to contact our Software Licensing department at SW.LICENSE@applelink.apple.com for information. Note that the redistribution licenses cost money and not everything is available or covered by this license. Back to the end-user license. It covers ALL Apple software and information on ftp.apple.com. Only those items which specifically state that they may be freely copied may be redistributed without a license, and few if any items state that. This is the reason that much of this data is not available at SUMEX or other ftp sites, but is available on services like CompuServe and America Online. For SUMEX or another site to legally redistribute this information, they would need to execute a redistribution license with Software Licensing. Services like CompuServe and America Online as well as ftp.apple.com have such licenses in place.
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THIS RELEASE MOVED PR NEWSWIRE ON FRIDAY, MARCH 4, 1994 AT 8:30 AM, EST. Contact: Jennie Shikashio Regis McKenna, Inc. (408) 974-4104 Emma Bufton Regis McKenna, Inc. (408) 974-1856 Apple Ships Newton Connection Kit v 2.0 for Macintosh Newton Connection Kit v 2.0 Enables The Exchange Of Information From Desktop Applications With The MessagePad CUPERTINO, California--March 4, 1993--Apple Computer, Inc., today announced that it has begun shipping version 2.0 of the Newton Connection Kit for the Macintosh . Newton Connection kit v 2.0 makes it simple for people to exchange Newton information with common Macintosh applications. Newton Connection v 2.0 enables users to exchange and share their MessagePad information---notes, letters, name-cards, to-do lists, appointments, and even information created with many third party applications---with common desktop personal information management (PIM), word-processing, spreadsheet and database applications. It also enables users to access and edit MessagePad information easily using common desktop applications with which they may already be familiar. Direct Export And Import from Macintosh applications Newton Connection v 2.0 enables people to import and export native files directly from many common supported Macintosh applications to Newton's address book, calendar and notepad, by incorporating portions of the award-winning MacLinkPlus file translation library, a product from DataViz Inc. (Trumbull, CT). Supported Macintosh applications include common titles such as: Portfolio Software's Dynodex; Symantec's Act!; Now Software's Now-Upto-Date; Aldus' DateBookPro; PowerUp's Addressbook Plus; Microsoft's Excel, Word and Works; Lotus 1-2-3; WordPerfect; Nisus; and WriteNow, among others. Industry Standard Text Files Newton Connection v 2.0 enables people to create, save and modify industry standard tab-separated and comma-separated text files for exchanging (importing and exporting) Newton information with numerous PIM, database and spreadsheet applications, such as Aldus' TouchBase Pro, Claris Corporation's FileMaker Pro and Hypercard Address Stacks, among others. For example, a list of names, addresses and phone numbers stored in Claris' Filemaker Pro can easily be imported into the MessagePad address book. Newton Connection File Format Newton Connection has a rich intermediate text file format which supports all Newton information, enabling cooperating desktop applications to synchronize, as well as exchange information with a Newton MessagePad. Many desktop application developers are already working with Apple to support this format directly within their applications. Special Software Offer In a limited special offer, the Newton Connection kit for both Windows and Macintosh will include several sample Starcore Newton applications, while supplies of these samples last: Columbo's Mystery Capers, Silicon Casino, GoFigure, Fortune 500 Guide To American Business and Dell Crossword Puzzles and Other Word Games (demo versions). In addition, Newton Book--an electronic book containing descriptions of numerous Newton commercial and shareware applications--will be included in the special offer, as will the Newton DataViewer, which enables the import and export of spreadsheet data. The Newton DataViewer allows people to manipulate spreadsheet data from their desktop on their Newton MessagePad by scrolling horizontally and vertically, sorting by column, and exporting back to the desktop spreadsheet. Availability and Pricing Newton Connection kit v 2.0 for Macintosh was rolled out today across the United States, and is expected be available in computer retailers, campus resellers, consumer electronics stores and K-12 institutions. The Apple price of Newton Connection kit v 2.0 for Macintosh is US$99. Free Upgrades Apple will send all registered purchasers of Newton Connection v 1.00 a free upgrade to Newton Connection v 2.0. Customers who received a complimentary preview version of the Newton Connection Kit at MacWorld Expo in Boston in August 1993 will also be receiving a free upgrade to Newton Connection v 2.0. Registered users may expect to receive their upgrades in the latter part of March. Headquartered in Cupertino, California, Apple Computer, Inc. develops, manufactures and markets personal computer, server and personal interactive electronic systems for use in business, education, home, science, engineering and government. A recognized pioneer and innovator in the personal computer industry, Apple does business in more than 120 countries across the world. -30- Apple, the Apple logo, Macintosh and Newton are registered trademarks. MessagePad and StarCore are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink Pathway Apple Press Releases PR Express Apple & Industry News News Break
mac.104 madamov, -> #103, madamov
Janko, obrati pažnju na prethodnu, 10.103, poruku. Dobro će doćo za DeMacBinary. B)