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21 Feb 1994 - 14 Nov 1999

Messages - mac

mac.651 haevorn, -> #650, lmicic
// Performa Šta ta performa sve ima u sebi i šta s njom može da se radi.
mac.652 wizard, -> #649, madamov
> Znam samo broj telefona Meridijana (620-374) i Application-a (222-1746). > Za Kompani sam tek nedavno čuo da se i oni bave nekom prodajom. Hvala, dobio sam i na mail neke telefone, znači - hvala svima.
mac.653 nnenad, -> #649, madamov
ˇŚImam tel od KOMPANI: 627-525 626-741, 627+413Đ, ű, 681127, fax: 624795Ňü 
mac.654 nnenad, -> #650, lmicic
Bas sam zvao Meridijan i imaju Performu 6308/230, sa 14'' monitorom(color) sena je oko 4000DMĆ+ 
mac.656 madamov, -> #654, nnenad
> Bas sam zvao Meridijan i imaju Performu 6308/230, sa 14'' monitorom(color) Po oznaci, to je PowerMac Performa (ekvivalent PowerMac-u 6100).
mac.655 madamov, -> #651, haevorn
> Šta ta performa sve ima u sebi i šta s njom > može da se radi. Otprilike ima u sebi (video si procesore u zagradama) sve što i ostali Mekovi (4 Mb ili 8 Mb RAM-a), broj slotova zavisi od modela do modela, neke Performe dolaze se built-in monitorom i tastatura je uglavnom uključena u cenu računara. Može da se radi isto ono što sa bilo kojim Mekom sa istim procesorom. Za kolor pripremu bi preporučio bar 68040, ako se već ne može naći PowerMac (nedavno su se pojavili LC i Performa PowerMac-ovi).
mac.657 lmicic, -> #655, madamov
Ono sto ti Madamov nije "rekao" je: Sa MAGICMACom (softverski emuulator Atarija), obican LCIII sa MC68030 na 25MHZ radi duplo brze od tvog Falcona, naravno kao Atari. Najlepse je to sto MAGICMAC moze da se nadje kod nas i to PRAVA verzija.
mac.658 lmicic, -> #656, madamov
Ja sam cuo da za 4200 DM u Nemackoj moze da se dobije PPC 6100 i to hardverskim PC 486DX2 na 66Mhz
mac.659 lmicic, -> #658, lmicic
.... I da ne zaboravim, ova informacija je iz najnovijeg Atari/MAC usera, casopisa koji se do nedavno bavio samo Atari racunarima, ali je MAC od nedavno odkupio prava na polovinu. BTW Nemogu da nadjem nijedan modemski casopis za MACa, dali uopse postoji tako nesto?
mac.660 nnenad, -> #656, madamov
Ne znam sta mislis pod tim PowerMac Performa. Zar nije ona §ísa 68030 procesorom. BTW. Otac hoce da kupi nekog powerbooka. Nasao je 165c, 150, duo210(bez doka i kablova), 145. Meni se licno najvise svidja 165c. Mozes li mi reci nesto o nj. Kakva je slika, radi librzo... Za 150 sam cuo da ne tera externi monitor. Jednostavno posavetuj me po tvome sta je najbolje od ovoga. Molim te nemoj mi reci da uzmem PB540c.
mac.661 mikis, -> #656, madamov
+>> Bas sam zvao Meridijan i imaju Performu 6308/230, sa 14'' +> monitorom(color) +> Po oznaci, to je PowerMac Performa (ekvivalent PowerMac-u 6100). Da nije čovek mislio na 630/8/230? :) Nisam čuo za 63?? PowerPerforme?! :)
mac.662 lmicic,
Evo kataloga MAC program sa mog BBSa. mac.txt
mac.663 mikis, -> #658, lmicic
+> Ja sam cuo da za 4200 DM u Nemackoj moze da se dobije PPC 6100 i to +> hardverskim PC 486DX2 na 66Mhz Kod Kompanija sam video u cenovniku DX2/66 MHz hardverski emulator (Apple-ov) za 760 _nečega_ - da li dolara ili maraka, ne znam, nisam pitao. Na žalost, ne pitah ni da li je to cena kod njih ili na to još nešto treba dodati.
mac.664 nesh,
1. Pročitah (u R108) da serija PowerMac-ova AV može softverski da emulira fax/modem. Tamo napisaše da sa sw koji se dobija uz njega može da šalje/prima faxove na 9600bps. Pošto uskoro (nadam se) dobijam jedan 8100 baš me interesuje ima ili neki sw za rad npr. kao 14400 modem. I kako to podržavaju com. programi. 2. Pošto je namenjen za kolor pripremu interesuje me dali PhotoShop ima u native verziji za PowerMac-ove i gde uopšte mogu da se nabave native aplikacije za tu seriju.
mac.665 madamov,
Za sve vlasnike Radius monitora, bilo na built-in video ili sa karticama, najnovije verzije softvera. radsw1.cpt
mac.666 madamov,
Radius softver za Pivot monitore. radsw2.cpt
mac.667 madamov, -> #658, lmicic
> Ja sam cuo da za 4200 DM u Nemackoj moze da se dobije PPC 6100 i to > hardverskim PC 486DX2 na 66Mhz Vrlo verovatno.
mac.669 madamov, -> #660, nnenad
> Meni se licno najvise svidja 165c. Od ponuđenih, i meni. B) > Kakva je slika, radi librzo Kolor ekran pasivne matrice, slika je lošija nego na 180c kojeg sam imao prilike da vidim za razliku od 165c, 640x400. Radi fino, on je praktično kolor verzija PowerBook-a 160 s kojim sam se družio par meseci. > Za 150 sam cuo da ne tera externi monitor. Ne tera, ima samo LocalTalk port i SCSI port.
mac.668 madamov, -> #657, lmicic
> Najlepse je to sto MAGICMAC moze da se nadje kod nas i to PRAVA verzija. Voleo bih ovo da vidim. Gde se može videti?
mac.671 madamov, -> #662, lmicic
> GRAPHICC.SIT 402560 30/05/95 GraphicConvertor 2.0.1 Imaš ovde, ostavih pre neki dan, najnoviju verziju, 2.7. > HERMESII.SIT 456646 20/05/95 HERMES II V3.21 Komunikacioni paket (MAC) Hermes je, u stvari, PD program za BBS na Meku. BTW, zahvaljujući jednom Mek kolegi koji mi je ostavio par CD-a na razgledanje na neko vreme došao sam do demo verzije TeleFinder BBS softvera, ali još nisam stigao da se igram sa njim. > POWERSPE.DD 103808 29/05/95 ZX Spektrum emulator. (PPC) Wow, nisam ni znao da ovo postoji. > ZIPIT126.SEA 204928 30/05/95 ZIPIT V1.2.6 Rad sa ZIP arhivama. Ovo je novije od onoga što imamo na Sezamu. Verzija na Sezamu je 1.2.1.
mac.670 madamov, -> #661, mikis
> Da nije čovek mislio na 630/8/230? :) Nisam čuo za 63?? PowerPerforme?! :) Sad kad bolje pogledam, izgleda da si u pravu, a i u međuvremenu sam se sreo sa mojim drugarom Protom koji radi u Meridijanu, pa si definitivno u pravu. Inače, PowerPerforme su se pojavile i imaju slične četvorocifrene oznake kao Powermac-ovi, pa mi se učinilo.
mac.672 madamov, -> #663, mikis
> 760 _nečega_ - da li dolara ili maraka Rekao bih maraka jer je cena u SAD oko $500, ali mi je to veoma jeftino za naše uslove.
mac.673 madamov, -> #664, nesh
> Pročitah (u R108) da serija PowerMac-ova AV može softverski da emulira > fax/modem. Ne samo PowerMac-ovi, već svi AV modeli imaju tu mogućnost, uz odgovarajući softver. > Pošto uskoro (nadam se) dobijam jedan 8100 baš me interesuje ima ili neki sw > za rad npr. kao 14400 modem. Nisam čuo da li postoji, Apple-ov Express Modem softver radi u stvari kao 2400 data i 9600 fax modem. I potreban ti je GeoPort adapter da bi mogao da koristiš te mogućnosti. Ja se ne bih zaletao, to je interesantno kao mogućnost, ali je pitanje koliko je isplativo. Cena GeoPort adaptera je, podatak od pre par meseci, oko $90, a trenutni bestseler modem, TelePort Gold II (14400 data i fax) koji se napaja sa ADB porta na tastaturi, košta oko $120. > Pošto je namenjen za kolor pripremu interesuje me dali PhotoShop ima u > native verziji za PowerMac-ove i gde uopšte mogu da se nabave native > aplikacije za tu seriju. PhotoShop 3.0 je native, kao i Ilustrator 5.5, FrameMaker 4 i mnogi ostali programi. A mogu da se nabave gde i svi ostali programi. PhotoShop i Ilustrator dolaze u tzv. fat instalaciji, tj. iste diskete ili isti CD se koristi za instalaciju fat, native ili 68k verzije, odnosno kad kupiš PhotoShop dobijaš sve tri verzije. Quark XPress, recimo, ne dolazi tako, on ima posebne cene i diskete za instalaciju native ili 68k verzije.
mac.674 madamov,
PowerSaver, Radisu softver za monitore po Energy Star programu. radpowsw.cpt
mac.675 mikis, -> #672, madamov
+>> 760 _nečega_ - da li dolara ili maraka +> +> Rekao bih maraka jer je cena u SAD oko $500, ali mi je to veoma jeftino +> za naše uslove. I meni se čini da je previše jeftino... U novom PC-ju kažu da je cena u Americi 739 dolara.
mac.676 janko, -> #663, mikis
> +> Ja sam cuo da za 4200 DM u Nemackoj moze da se dobije > PPC 6100 i to +> hardverskim PC 486DX2 na 66Mhz > > Kod Kompanija sam video u cenovniku DX2/66 MHz hardverski > emulator (Apple-ov) za 760 _nečega_ - da li dolara ili > maraka, ne znam, nisam pitao. Na žalost, ne pitah ni da li > je to cena kod njih ili na to još nešto treba dodati. Nije emulator, to je prava 486 ploča (ugrađivao sam je u jedan 6100 pre malo jače od nedelju dana). Dimenzije su joj nešto veće od tri i po inčnog drajva. Ploča može da izvršava sve programe za PC i Windows, ali i da koristi sve Mekove periferije (koje postoje na ISTOM računaru, ionako): monitor, diskove, diskete, čak i kom portove (!) Pritiskom određene kombinacije tastera moguće je "skakati" iz 486 ekrana u Mek ekran. Kartica može da koristi, čak, i memorijske čipove sa Power Mekove matične ploče, ali je to slabo rešenje jer onda Meku ostaje manje memorije. Najbolje je da se dokupi i posebna memorija za 486 ploču.
mac.677 mikis, -> #676, janko
+>> Kod Kompanija sam video u cenovniku DX2/66 MHz hardverski +>> emulator (Apple-ov) za 760 _nečega_ - da li dolara ili +> Nije emulator, to je prava 486 ploča (ugrađivao sam je u jedan 6100 +> pre malo jače od nedelju dana). Rekoh li ja _hardverski_ emulator :) Znaš li cenu? +> Ploča može da izvršava sve programe za PC i Windows, ali i da koristi +> sve Mekove periferije (koje postoje na ISTOM računaru, ionako): monitor, +> diskove, diskete, čak i kom portove (!) Šta bi sa onim tvrdnjama iz PC-ja da Apple ne može da garantuje da na njoj rade OS/2 i Win NT? Doduše, uskoro bi trebalo da se pojave i Win NT, i OS/2 za PowerPC procesore :) (vidim na SKY-u, valjda, IBM počeo da reklamira svoje PowerPC mašine).
mac.678 madamov, -> #677, mikis
> Doduše, uskoro bi trebalo da se pojave i Win NT, i OS/2 za PowerPC procesore Ovaj prvi, WinNT, se, bar prema rečima mog prijatelja Mladena iz Novog Sada, već pojavio za Motorolin PowerPC koji je, što je interesantno, još prototip.
mac.679 lmicic, -> #668, madamov
>> Najlepse je to sto MAGICMAC moze da se nadje kod nas i to PRAVA verzija. > Voleo bih ovo da vidim. Gde se moze videti? Kod mene na BBSu.
mac.680 lmicic, -> #671, madamov
>> GRAPHICC.SIT 402560 30/05/95 GraphicConvertor 2.0.1 > Imas ovde, ostavih pre neki dan, najnoviju verziju, 2.7. ..... itd ..... U pravu si, moja je greska bila sto sam dozvolio korisnicima da uploaduju programe. Toga vise nece biti, od sada cu na BBS stavljati samo najnovije stvari. > Hermes je, u stvari, PD program za BBS na Meku. BTW, zahvaljujuci >jednom Mek kolegi koji mi je ostavio par CD-a na razgledanje na neko vreme >dosao sam do demo verzije TeleFinder BBS softvera, ali jos nisam stigao da >se igram sa njim. Sta si ti video, ja stvarno neznam, ali spisak programa koga sam jednom ostavio ovde je skinut sa BBS koji radi sa Hermesom i to pravom, registrovanom verzijom. BTW ova koju ja imam je najverovartnije PD, ali kao jednom budem prebacivao board sa Atarija na MAC sigurno cu koristiti Hermesa, naravno registrovanog ;> I da ne zaboravim, dobio sam ponudu za 3 CDa sa piratskim MAC programima, problem je samo kako da to postom prebacim u Yugu :((
mac.681 madamov, -> #680, lmicic
> > Imas ovde, ostavih pre neki dan, najnoviju verziju, 2.7. > ..... itd ..... > U pravu si, moja je greska bila sto sam dozvolio korisnicima da > uploaduju programe. Toga vise nece biti, od sada cu na BBS stavljati > samo najnovije stvari. I ja sam pogrešio, nije 2.7, već 2.0.7., ali je ipak svežija. > Sta si ti video, ja stvarno neznam, ali spisak programa koga sam > jednom ostavio ovde je skinut sa BBS koji radi sa Hermesom i to > pravom, registrovanom verzijom. Pa, pisalo je nešto communication package i slično, pa bi ljudi mogli da pobrkaju, zato sam istakao da je to u stvari program za BBS, a ne neki komunikacioni program. A PD verziju sam video na jednom CD-u, nisam ga razgledao, tako da nisam primetio da ima keč sa registracijom.
mac.682 madamov, -> #679, lmicic
> Kod mene na BBSu. Nisam ga video u onom spisku.
mac.683 madamov,
Macintosh Models List, mnogo potpunija lista od one koju sam ja pravio, i naravno, mnogo svežija. Tu su čak i modeli o kojima se šuška da treba da se pojave. macmod.cpt
mac.684 madamov, -> #683, madamov
Sad sam se setio da je u arhivi u stvari plain text fajl, pa ga ostavljam kao takvog da ga mogu pročitati i oni koji nemaju Macintosh. macmod.txt
mac.685 madamov,
jedan amer skuplja sve tipove i kreatore fajlova na Meku, dogurao je do sovje verzije 1.4. Evo fajlova u Excel i text formatu. typcre14.cpt
mac.686 madamov, -> #685, madamov
isto, ali su u arhivi samo tekst fajlovi. typcret.cpt
mac.687 madamov,
Pre neki dan mi na posao doneo drugar junski broj nemačkog MacWorld-a i mogu vam reći da sam se prijatno iznenadio. Performa 5200 8/500/CD (PowerPC 603 na 75 MHz, integrisan 15" Multisync Apple monitor sa kućištem) sa tastaturom i gomilom softvera koji se dobija uz Performe, cena je 2800 DM. Morao sam da ga pitam da mi detaljno pročita i prevede sve šta je pisalo u oglasu jer nisam verovao da može da bude tako jeftino, pogotovo u Nemačkoj, odnosno Evropi (uvek je bilo da je Evropa 20-30% skuplja od SAD po pitanju Apple računara i opreme), mora da ima neke veze sa kursom dolara u odnosu na marku, a verovatno i sa pojavom klonova. Isti model, sa 12 Mb RAM-a i TV karticom (TV tjuner, kao što se mogu ubaciti u modele Quadra, LC i Performa 630) košta 3500 DM. Tu je i Performa 6200 (otud ona moja zabuna od pre neki dan, vidite kako ih označavaju) slične konfiguracije (PPC 603, 75 MHz, 8/500/CD), ali bez monitora košta otprilike isto. Inače, koliko sam sa svojim neznanjem nemačkog uspeo da provalim iz tekstova, Power Computing je izbacio tri PowerMac klona, Radius još jednog i još jedna firma (Pioneer, ali izgleda da nemaju nikakve veze sa istoimenom japanskom firmom) još jednog. Nisu pominjali cene, a bilo bi ih interesantno uporediti sa Apple-ovim. Tu je bila i najava PowerMac-ova koji treba da se pojave i koji neće više imati NuBus već PCI slotove za proširenja.
mac.688 madamov,
Još jedan uuencoder/uudecoder za Macintosh. uucd22.dd
mac.690 madamov,
BugOff 1.3.1, program za password protect kompjutera i diska, ima ugrađen screen saver, a može da posluži i kao chat program za mrežu. bugof131.dd
mac.691 djcorto,
Doneo sam iz Moskve novine/bilten koji se zove MacTimes. Interesuje li koga ? ;) Osim toga, Performa 630 usred Moskve kosta nepunih 2000 USD .... Kako stoji stvar sa softverom za te zivotinje, da se resimo konacno ovih PC krntija ? ;)
mac.692 lmicic,
Rekoh ja jos ranije da su cene uzasno pale, narocito posle pojave novih modela performu nazvanih "sve u jednom". Prosli put sam reako da je cena performe 630 4MB 250HD 1398 DM, evo sada i adrese: SCHUH GMBH & CO ELECTRONIC KG JOHANESSTR. 3-7 66763 DILLINGEN GERMANY FAX: (06831) 90 90 90 TEL: (06831) 90 90 - 0 Cena je stara nesto vise od mesec dana. Prijatelj koji mi je procitao i cenu i adresu, dobio je najnoviji broj Atari/MAC usera (ili bolje obratno, posto od ovog broj MAC je zastupljen sa 2/3). Cim saznam nove cene i adrese javicu.
mac.693 nesh, -> #677, mikis
-=> +> sve Mekove periferije (koje postoje na ISTOM računaru, ionako): -=> monitor, Šta bi sa onim tvrdnjama iz PC-ja da Apple ne može da garantuje
mac.694 madamov,
Program Switcher v2.1.0 je ono što mu ime kaže, služi za menjanje aktivnih aplikacija pomoću tastature, a ne samo iz application menija. Ne verujem da radi na manjeim sistemima od 7.0, nisam čitao. progswtc.dd
mac.696 madamov, -> #695, mscepa
> =============================== > 10.695 ORKA.4:mac * Poništio moderator > mscepa, 29.06.Čet 16:08, 315 chr > --------------------------------------------------------- Šta ovo bi?
mac.697 kale, -> #696, madamov
>> Šta ovo bi? Poruka ima komercijalan sadržaj. Inače, nisam je ja obrisao. Bilo bi lepo da se onaj ko je to uradio predstavi, a ubuduće ili da se doda još jedan moderator u welcome tekst konferencije, ili da se predstavlja kao sysadm. moderator Kale
mac.698 madamov,
Aplikacija koja može da vam posluži za mountovanje DiskCopy image fajlova bez init-a. Ima još neke opcije, poput automatskog arhiviranja i konvertovanja raznih image formata disketa. ShrinkWrap 1.2.1.
mac.699 madamov, -> #697, kale
> Poruka ima komercijalan sadržaj. Aha, videh posle u malim oglasima, izgleda da tamo moderatori nis utako ažurni. B)
mac.701 madamov,
Pojavio se novi PowerMacintosh 9500. Specifikacije nemam, osim tih da je reč o dva modela (prvi na 120 MHz i drugi na 132 MHz) i da je to prvi PowerMac sa PCI busom umesto dosadašnjeg NuBus. Datum pojavljivanja na severnoameričkom tržištu je bio 19.06. Čim saznam nešto više, javiću.
mac.702 madamov,
File Safari or The Barney Fife Subconscious Prober Primer What the heck is it? Another program I made because all the others like it have some features that are useful, but none have all the features in one app. This is your basic searchđallđfilesđinđađfolderđforđađstring app, except it allows you to store commonlyđused directories. It also has a bunch of helpful options. File Safari supports Balloon Help in all menus and dialogs. If the Balloon Help isnŇt enough, read the rest of this file (use TeachText or SimpleText because it contains PICTŇs and styled text). filesaf.dd
mac.703 madamov,
This is Synchronize!, file synchronization software for the Mac. Synchronize! is commercial software with a twist - it's widely available on many electronic information services, and its basic features can be used free, without charge. Synchronize! comes with many advanced features which are only available for folders which contain less than 400K. To enable the advanced features for unlimited use, the product may be purchased for $29.95. When you purchase the product, you receive a serial number which enables all advanced features for unlimited use. A user manual and master disk containing the most recently released version of Synchronize! is shipped to you. Basic Features ------------- Synchronize! automatically keeps the documents on two or more Macs up to date, by copying the newest version of those documents to the other Mac. It makes sure your desktop Mac and your PowerBook, or your Mac at home, have the most recent versions of your documents. Synchronize! will also backup a folder or an entire disk to another, replacing any files which don't exist on the primary disk. Only the files which are different are copied, making the backup quick and easy. An activity log records the date, time, and results of all your synchronizations. System 7-Savvy --------------- Synchronize! supports Balloon Help, Apple Events, and AppleScript. It runs on all Macs which have System 6.0.2 or later, or System 7, including Performas, Quadras, PowerBooks, and Power Macs. synchr.dd
mac.704 nnenad,
Igrica za meka. To je ona zmijica kojom treba da jedes razne stvari i time se produzavas(zmija je duza). snake
mac.705 nnenad, -> #701, madamov
Pojavila se i Performa 6115, 6100, 6112...To su performe sa PowerPC 601 procesorom i idu zajedno sa monitorom, tastaturom i nekim softverom. Cene jos nisu poznate. Nasao sam samo za Perf.6115 cenu od 2295( nista ne pise sta ide u tu cenu). Inace zbog novih modela cene mekova u usa i dalje padaju. Evo nekih : Q 605 4/16750$ Q 610DOS 8/230-1500$ Q 630 4/240-1049$ P 476 4/120- 999$ P 630CD 8/250- 1399$ P 635CD 5/350- 1599$ P 6115 8/350/CD- 2299$ evo nasao sam i za nju PB150 4/120- 1049$ 540c 12/500/fax- 4099$ PM 6100/66 8/350- 1589$ PM 7100/66 8/500- 1999$......ne mogu vise Uglavnom sam napisao cene jeftinijih model. PS. Apple najavljuje novi OS. Zove se COPLAND. Radi samo na PowerPC procesoru i mnogo je bolji od postojecih OS na PowerMacu. Sigurniji je, ne puca, trosi malo meme i memoriju rasporedjuje na tacne delove tako da nema podele memorije izmedju programa. Sav je u 3D:ikone,prozori...Moze se cak lako menjati izgled meka(mogu se menjati izgledi prozora, ikona, slova u menijima, check kutije...) Ovaj OS se najavljuje za sledecu godinu i treba da parira WINDOWSu 95. Pozdrav Nenad
mac.706 madamov, -> #705, nnenad
> Nasao sam samo za Perf.6115 cenu od 2295( nista ne pise sta ide u tu cenu). Kod Performi su uvek u cenu u cenu uračunati monitor i tastatura, za razliku od Quadri i PowerMacintosh-a gde je obrnut slučaj: nikada nisu uračunate cene monitora i tastature. E, sad je veliko pitanje koji je monitor uračunat u cenu. Kod Performi serije 5000 (verovatno i onih serije 500) je reč o integrisanom Apple 15" MultiScan monitoru, a kod ovih koje pominješ (serija 6000) monitor nije integrisan (tipujem da je Performa 6100 u stvari identični PowerMacintosh 6100). Biće valjda uskoro opet neki fajl o modelima negde da se skine pa ćemo da vidimo. > PS. Apple najavljuje novi OS. Zove se COPLAND. To mu je radno ime, a pravo ime će biti, najverovatnije, System 8. > Ovaj OS se najavljuje za sledecu godinu i treba da parira WINDOWSu 95. Ne treba da parira, već da ga prestigne, pošto su se gospoda iz Microsofta veoma potrudila da pokradu sve što se iz System-a 7.5 moglo ukrasti, a da mogu da razvlače eventualnu parnicu sa Apple-om oko togoa do sudnjeg dana (da li znaš da Windows 7.5 ima čak i aliase koji funkcionišu potpuno isto kao ovi na Systemu 7?). Inače, sve ovo što si naveo je tačno, s tim što je najbitnija osobina budućeg System-a 8 ono što nazivamo "pravi" multitasking. BTW, jesi li baš siguran da neće raditi na 680x0 Mekovima? Moja je procena da će raditi, s tim da neki njegovi delovi eventualno neće moći da rade na 680x0 Mekovima.
mac.707 madamov,
Ako imate pristup Internetu i imate mogućnost prijema mailing lista, evo podataka koji bi vas mogli zanimati: ************** INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU is a network interest group for the Apple Macintosh computer. This list is SUMEX's contribution to the community of research and instructional developers of the Macintosh. We welcome all submissions of messages and programs in this spirit. The Info-Mac Digest is distributed via Internet mail to over 100 sites, which then redistribute it to individual addresses. This hierarchical method makes the mail load manageable for the SUMEX host. To receive the digest, check with your system bboard manager and if they don't yet receive it, then request a copy be sent to a local bboard address (e.g. Info-Mac@HOST). Other networks also have access to the digest. Redistribution to CSNet addresses is taken care of by INFO-MAC@RELAY.CS.NET and to BITNET by INFO-MAC@ICSA.RICE.EDU. Usenet receives a copy called comp.sys.mac.digest. With FTP access as user "anonymous" and any password, you can bring the archived files over to your host and download them to your Macintosh. Submissions are scanned to filter out any list requests, pure speculation or opinions, or messages not pertaining to the Macintosh. Submissions for the digest should be made directly to INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu. All requests to be added to this list, comments about operations, problems, and administrative questions should be sent to the moderators at INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU. Please see /info-mac/help/posting-guidelines.txt if you plan to make a submission. Enjoy! The Info-Mac Moderators <INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu> ************** Ostatak u fajlu uz poruku. sumex.cpt
mac.708 madamov,
Malo informacija o tome kako pogledati QuickTime movie nastao na Meku na Windows mašini koja ima QuickTIme for Windows. *********** Mac QT <----> Windows 3.1 Conversion instructions v1.0 3/17/94 Hello, this file explains how to play Macintosh QTs with Windows. Before I explain the process, let me give you a brief background of the conversion problem. QuickTime movies have a section containing actual data and a section containing information on how to play that data--the compression method for graphics or sounds, playback rates, etc. Under MS-DOS, a file is a file is a file, so QTs under DOS have everything in one chunk. Macintosh files, however, have two pieces--a data fork and a resource fork (the resource fork allows programmers to easily add and access specific pieces of data in their programs--sound, icons, etc.). DOS has no analogous structure. When one converts files from Mac to IBM, a Mac file often becomes TWO files on the DOS disk, one containing the data fork and one containing the resource fork. This situation is a problem because: 1. DOS movie players generally want everything in one file; and 2. The Mac saves the movie data in the data fork, but control info in the resource Therefore, for the DOS or Windows players to work, all of the movie data must be integrated into ONE file, a process known as "flattening." So just how does one deal with the problem? Simple. You need to obtain two software packages from Apple, both of which are available for free over internet (I don't want to get into the copyright problems involved in redistributing software, so I'm not including the software here--instead, I'm telling you where you can get it). 1. Using anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.APPLE.COM, enter the SOFTWARE:MAC:SC:SNIPPETS:QUICKTIME directory and download PLAYMOVIE.HQX. This is a binhexed StuffIt archive which contains source code for PlayMovie AND a compiled version of PlayMovie. This is the necessary Mac software. 2. Using anonymous FTP, connect to LUGA.LATROBE.EDU.AU. The file you need is /pub/windows/qtw11.exe. NOTE: QTW is available from LOTS of places on internet. If you do an archie search for filenames beginning with "qtw" you will find many copies of it all over the place (in .exe, .zip, and .arj formats at the very least). However, many versions are the 1.0 release; luga.latrobe has 1.1. This is the necessary Windows software. You must have access to a Mac, since the PlayMovie, the flattener, is a Macintosh application. Open the Mac QT movie with PlayMovie. WHILE THE MOVIE IS PLAYING, select "Save flattened" from the file menu to save a flattened copy of the movie (the movie closes when it's done playing, so you can't save it then). Transfer this flattened movie to the IBM (use whatever means necessary--modem, ethernet, disk [CompactPro for Mac and UnCompact for IBM will allow multidisk archives, so you might try them]). QTW11.EXE is a self-extractor for MS-DOS that contains QuickTime for Windows v1.1 (requires Windows 3.1). The file "Player.exe" can open flattened QT movies (use a ".mov" file extension). Moving QT/Windows files to the Mac should not be a problem. A few Mac programs will open such flattened files directly; others may require you to set the file type to "MooV" (using ResEdit or another utility) before they display it in the dialog. These files will (should!) play just file without resources. SUGGESTION: since the Mac and Windows environments both support flattened files, Mac users might want to leave all of their QT movies in flattened format so that it's easier to exhange files. Good luck! If you have trouble, I probably won't be much help, but you're free to email me and ask me anyway... Please let me know if you found this info useful or if there are any errors in it. This file is for everyone's benefit, so please distribute it freely to anyone who might find it useful. Thanks. -Eric Bennett (ericb@emb121.rh.psu.edu; if that fails, ericb888@aol.com) ************
mac.709 madamov,
Kako otvoriti PowerBook-a? Pročitajte ovo što sledi: ************* Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 19:49:29 +0100 From: martin@luc.ac.be Subject: PowerBook 170 screen problem (summary) Dear net, on my query about a weird PowerBook 170 problem, where the screen image would start dancing around every so often and stop when I gave the machine a good shake, I got two long answers. Since they are instructive on how to open an PowerBook without "screwing" something to pieces, I am attaching them as a report. As it turned out, the problem was the display cable connector in the screen unit having come loose due to vibrations. Opening up the screen (by taking out the two screws that have rubber pads over them) and pushing the connector back in remedied the problem. Thanks to Keith Owens and Steven Taylor for answering! Jan M.L.Martin --- martin@luc.ac.be [archive as /info/hdwr/opening-powerbooks.txt or something] ***CUT HERE*** Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 10:13:06 +0100 From: " (Steven Taylor)" <steven.taylor@mrc-applied-psychology.cambridge.ac.uk> To: martin@luc.ac.be Subject: PB170 hassles Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi Jan, I've had several occasions to open PB170/180s, and it's quite easy for the Video cable (a ribbon cable) inside to be pulled out on reassembly - the top half of the case has to be 'hinged' from the front of the machine, downward, while this raises the back, and induces tension in the ribbon cable. The wires also carry trackball/keyboard ADB info. You may need to push the connector back in. If the machine has been installed after manufacture with the 8Megs, and the Global Village hardware, chances are that other stuff got loosened too - maybe the HD power cable if the tech wasn't careful. Opening the bigger PBs isn't too problematic, provided you have an antistatic surface and wristband to work with, and I think a T7 and T9 Torx screwdriver. Remove the battery to begin with; There are 5 screws in the case - a single T7 beneath the 'flap' at the rear of the machine (where ports are at); 4 x T9 screws in the case below. Once these are removed, and the machine placed with the LCD display down, in the position you would normally type at, the top half of the case can be gently removed. You will probably have to be persistent here, because it's quite stiff; the rear edge will normally release OK, but there are little 'tabs' on the front edge that can only be disengaged by your teasing the front edge backward. It will release in time. Now, you'll find the top case can pivot backward and you'll see the ribbon cable that is the video connector. It may need to be pushed firmly back into place. (though of course it may not be clear whether it was loose originally or due to the current disassembly!) You could now either reassemble the Mac, or investigate further. If the latter, the whole top part of the case including the LCD display can be put to one side if you ease the video connector straight upward (there are not clips to hold it in, part of the problem really!). There's nothing related to the Motherboard or HD on this top section. Checkout the other connectors you can see, and make sure they're tight. (of course how far you're prepared to investigate is entirely up to you.) Reassembly is the reverse of the above. It helps if you 'balance' the rear of the top part of the case on the row of ports at the back of the Mac (resting in particular on top of the SCSI connector) with the top case at about 45deg to the horizontal, as this will give you enough slack to plug the video connector back in. Then 'pivot' the lid downward, and slightly raise the rear edge (without yanking the cable free) to let you drop the front edge into its groove, where the tabs will hold it in place. Then drop the rear down again, and push it slightly - there will be a little resistance, but will click gently on the left hand side. Shove the screws back in the lower case, then behind the flap. Replace the battery (your PRAM will be reset now, so checkout your Control Panels to restore values). I hope this is of some help! Good luck, Steve Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:22:18 -0600 (CST) From: Keith D Owens <kdowens@tenet.edu> Subject: PowerBook Problem To: martin@luc.ac.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Jan, It sounds like your PowerBook Screen problem is a loose or ill-fitting screen cable. There is a ribbon cable that connects the screen display to the motherboard with a simple plug in connector. It is fairly easy to check (if you are not faint of heart... i.e. willing to undo a few screws) :-) Undo the four screws on the bottom of the PowerBook (it takes a Torx T-10 size screw bit-available at most hardware stores). Then undo the single screw that is located right underneath the phone plug (RJ-11 jack) of your internal modem. It is a Torx T-8 size screw (this small size is available but harder to find at the hardware store). STand the PowerBook on its end, with teh back facing you. Have the screen unlatched and partially opened to give it more stability. Then seperate the two halves from the back as it is facing you. The front edge of the PB is hinged, so it will seperate in a V-shape. Only seperate it 2-3 inches, letting it remain hinged in the front. There is a ribbon cable that your should be able to see (on my 170 it's white) that runs from the screen towards the motherboard. Reach in with two fingers and press down on the connecter to make sure that it is firmly seated and making a solid connection. That should solve the screen flickering. On your hard drive, is it a LaCie brand Quantum, or is it original equipment? Good luck, Keith D. Owens <kdowens@tenet.edu> ***************
mac.710 madamov,
DiskDisk+ 2.5 April 10, 1994 (A disk duplication program for the Macintosh) Thank you for your interest in the DiskDup+ program. This program has been written to automate as much as possible the sector by sector duplication of a floppy onto one or more duplicates. All controls of the program are displayed by the one control dialog which is always presented by the program. These controls may be changed at any time. Here is a list of the principal features of DiskDup+: ą Performs sector duplication of either 400K, 720K, 800K, or 1440K floppies. Unused sectors may be skipped for faster duplication. ą Automatically creates disk Labels for each of the disks duplicated. ą You can copy 800K Masters onto 1440K copies (with increased free space) ą Disk images may be Read/Written from a hard drive. ą Disk images may be mounted from the Finder for direct access to the file contents. You may also cuplicate or mount file images for Apple's DiskCopy program. ą Formats copies as single or double sided as necessary to match the master disk. ą Optionally performs a complete read back of the copy to verify all data against the original in order to assure full data integrity. ą Requires only a single floppy disk drive (either internal or external). If you have two drives, you may alternate between them for maximum efficiency. ą A new master may be read in at any time without exiting the program. ą A Copy counter displays the number of duplications completed. ą The entire disk data is held within the Mac if it has sufficient memory. With less memory, two passes may be required to complete the operation. ą An optional warning tells you if you are about to write onto a formatted disk. ą Master disk is never mounted, so viruses can never propogate ONTO the master (and its copies) during the duplication process. ą Duplicates Macintosh MFS, Macintosh HFS, Apple A/UX, and any other readable diskette. ą Tolerates bad sectors if they do not involve actual disk data. ą Option to copy a Master with bad sectors - use in able to perform file recovery on a copy. ą Controls for easy use with "Jukebox Five" automatic disk feeder. The program has been written to work best with 1 megabyte (or more) of internal memory for 400K and 800K floppies, or 2 megabyte for 1440 floppies. It will still function when less memory is available. In this case, it will require 2 passes over each disk. In two pass mode, the first half of the master is read into memory, and you may then write the first half of as many copies as desired. You then re-insert the master in order to read in the second half for writing on all your copies. In this mode, the copy counter of DiskDup+ will properly inform you of where you are in the process. If DiskDup+ indicates that it does not have sufficient memory, check to see whether you are using either the Ram CACHE (see control pannel), or an internal RAMdisk. Both of these features tie up large amounts of internal Mac memory. This is a ShareWare program. As such you are free to use/copy, and pass on copies to your friends and neighbors. If you find yourself using the program for more than simple evaluation of its capabilities, you are requested to register as a user of the program. You may either send a $25 check or money order to this author, or call in and charge it on VISA or MasterCard. You will receive back a disk with the latest version of the program, a manual on the use of DiskDup+, access to the "mount image" feature, and instructions for avoiding the ShareWare dialog that is displayed during program execution. ddup25.cpt
mac.711 madamov,
Tar for the Macintosh Version 4.0 Beta What's New The fourth version of tar for the Macintosh now partially understands SCSI tape drives. Tar can read and write tapes directly, allowing exchange with other systems (like Unix). Tar will now set the modifcation time of extracted files properly. You can also select an option to overwrite existing files. Also, several bugs have also been fixed. *************************** Tar has only been tested with a 150 MB Teac streaming cassette drive and Exabyte 8200 and 8500 drives. *************************** tar40.cpt
mac.712 madamov,
Macintosh Electric Magazine broj #2 mem002.cpt
mac.714 .obj, -> #706, madamov
> da li znaš da Windows 7.5 ima čak i aliase koji funkcionišu potpuno isto > kao ovi na Systemu 7? To je Unix imao pre 20 godina.
mac.715 madamov,
Machine Icons, verzija 1.2. Ikone svih do sada prozivedenih Apple računara i štampača. macicons.cpt
mac.716 madamov, -> #714, .obj
> To je Unix imao pre 20 godina. Kad je tako, što to nisu ugradili u DOS, nego su kopirali Mekove aliase u Win95? Mac i Win95 alias su ipak nešto drugačiji od Unix-ovih. Ne znam za Win95, ali sa Mekovim aliasom možeš da uradiš, na primer, sledeće: napraviš alias fajla koji je na disku mašine na kojoj ga praviš, snimiš ga na disketu koju ubaciš u drugu mašinu, ili preko mreže iskopiraš alias na drugu mašinu i on funkcioniše. Ono što sam hteo da kažem kad sam pominjao mažnjavanje je to da Microsoft nije primenio ideju aliasa na svoj novi način, već je, prema onome što sam do sada čuo i pročitao, kopirao aliase onako kako ih Mac koristi od pojave Systema 7.
mac.717 nnenad, -> #712, madamov
Ddrugi deo komprimovanoŢ╔ g fajla #2 .cpt. Ne znam hoce li raditi
mac.718 .obj, -> #716, madamov
>> To je Unix imao pre 20 godina. > > Kad je tako, što to nisu ugradili u DOS, nego su > kopirali Mekove aliase u Win95? Zato što u DOS-u shortcut-i nemaju smisla, tj. nema velike potrebe za njima. DOS nije suštinski menjan još od verzije 3, pa bi naprasno dodavanje alias-a u DOS bilo, u najmanju ruku, čudno. > Mac i Win95 alias su ipak nešto drugačiji od Unix-ovih. Imaju potpuno istu namenu, smisao i upotrebu, jedino se realizacije interno razlikuju. "Simboličke linkove" je Unix imao davno pre Macintosh-a. Toliko o mažnjavanju.
mac.720 madamov, -> #718, .obj
> Zato što u DOS-u shortcut-i nemaju smisla, tj. nema > velike potrebe za njima. Na UNIX-u imaju smisla, a na DOS-u nemaju? Zašto ih onda ima 4DOS? > Imaju potpuno istu namenu, smisao i upotrebu, jedino se > realizacije interno razlikuju. "Simboličke linkove" je Unix > imao davno pre Macintosh-a. Toliko o mažnjavanju. Postoji velika razlika između primene iste ideje i kopiranja određene implementacije te ideje. Toliko o mažnjavanju i s moje strane.
mac.719 madamov, -> #717, nnenad
> Ddrugi deo komprimovanoŢ╔ g fajla #2 .cpt. Ne znam hoce li raditi Dosta teksta je pojelo đubre na vezi, tako da ne znam šta si hteo da mi kažeš, pa ako je moguće ponovi poruku.
mac.721 nnenad, -> #719, madamov
Izvini, moja greska. Po nazivu fajla sam pomislio da si ostavio samo drugi segment fajla komprimovanog u compact prou, pa sam se pitao a gde je prvi segment. Inace kako radi onaj dw3~%`-ŚÁŠm]tSáUÁ2­╠ü1■A´đtb■│sk ¸│ ű@qaĹŠ▀oÔ wE"ŐNa├@`┤Ľšlé@"DS.×mQ┼ Î&E█č╠>ý█ű¸m]y╬ěhŇ5■šňo│Łű ÝűűuEšŁ˘═E┼;ÚÖ█ŔA9Icqě▀█ŔK9ń└CZTq{/͸ ű╚ló^¸ Ý█ű o  ű ű¸{  ű9╔$└0čěe=╠â 63╗EâîpUäH■˛UP┐eoó█eëýýł┴L/ˇ§˙v Š╬Ő"Ä╠>w╦Ń┼Rű űűŕ╦ŞFN ^(aUĄ=í#)%ić]+yˇÝĹW"L╦hŢĺŤÂ╣Ţ^p└╦ZÂç"F ý└ŁŤŮą.|H]bXPQ¤ §ŹnÂoi╗█ű ű ű¸aódpÁ\$p /╗˛yo █h─f7(âko eE"mÖDŢaP~MVśśWGŚćĐ˝ŰK1╗ţSB.eÁĐlͨý$ľl═a7žŕ┼Żnśčéć▄śÍ╗ńAăŠűRIZ C{Ł?@╗müÎMOf█■ ąÓ═đ ščwÉÂJ#egV Ú]{  ¸6ô ű█ LéŻ[Š*Š* ű
mac.722 .obj, -> #720, madamov
> Na UNIX-u imaju smisla, a na DOS-u nemaju? Zašto ih onda ima 4DOS? Jao... :) "alias" u tom smislu što ga ti pominješ postoji i u običnom DOS-u (omogućava ga sistemski program DOSKEY), ali to nije ništa drugo do najobičnija zamena ukucanih komandi drugim komandama. Na primer, može se podesiti da ako u DOS promptu otkucaš "COP", DOSKEY to samo transformiše u "COPY \*.* \BACKUP", recimo. To imaju i Unix shell-ovi (interpreteri komandne linije), ali ta mogućnost mi uopšte nije ni pala na pamet kada se govorilo o shortcut-ima ("alias", "symbolic link", svejedno). Shortcut je kada ti možeš da otvoriš (startuješ, štampaš, ...) datoteku koja zapravo samo pokazuje na neku drugu datoteku. To nema DOS, ima Windows 95 i imao je, još pre nego što sam se ja rodio, i Unix. Na primer, razne verzije Unix-a imaju neke datoteke u direktorijumima čija se imena razlikuju od proizvodjača do proizvodjača. Tako Linux pri instalaciji kreira dosta simboličkih linkova kako bi bio što kompatibilniji sa raznim Unix-ima. Zato neki fajl "pera", recimo, možeš da nadješ pod imenom /usr/pera ali i /usr/local/pera ili /var/local/pera, sa istim sadržajem. Ta mogućnost (sumnjive upotrebne vrednosti, ako mene pitaš) se koristi na isti način za potpuno iste namene i u Windows-u 95. Dakle, da bi se jednom te istom fajlu moglo pristupiti iz raznih direktorijuma/diskova. Pretpostavljam da je slično i sa Mekintošem. E ako jeste, onda opet dolazimo do škakljive reči "mažnjavanje" ;)
mac.723 haevorn,
System 8, Copland se nece pojaviti pre sredine sledece godine
mac.724 madamov, -> #721, nnenad
> Izvini, moja greska. Po nazivu fajla sam pomislio da si ostavio samo drugi > segment fajla komprimovanog u compact prou, Za časopis pitaš. B) Reč je o drugom broju. > Inace kako radi onaj dw3~%`-ŚÁŠm]tSáUÁ2­ŠČ1■A´đtb■│sk > ¸│ ű@qaĹŠ▀oÔ Opet isto. Zašto ne koristiš exec komandu Sezama? Kod kuće u editoru otkucaš: co j orka co reply mac <<<< ovde ide tekst tvoje poruke >>> I onda u poslednjoj liniji poruke staviš . i udariš enter. Snimiš fajl i kad dobiješ Sezam komandom exec ga Zmodemom pošalješ na Sezam. Nema đubreta u poruci ma koliko loša veza bila.
mac.725 madamov, -> #722, .obj
> Shortcut je kada ti možeš da otvoriš (startuješ, štampaš, ...) Znam to, to je isto što i Mac-ov alias fajla, nego sam ja mislio da kad UNIX-u ili DOS-u kažeš u nekom .rc iliti INI fajlu: alias mydir public/madamov gde je madamov direktorijum, pa mu kažeš copy something mydir da će da smesti something gde treba, tj. u moj direktorijum. > Dakle, da bi se jednom te istom fajlu moglo pristupiti > iz raznih direktorijuma/diskova. Pretpostavljam da je slično > i sa Mekintošem. E ako jeste, onda opet dolazimo do > škakljive reči "mažnjavanje" ;) Uh, pa onda je UNIX-ov alias i Windowsov (ako je isti, bojim se da ga baš nisi dobro pogledao) daleko siromašniji. Alias je na Meku fajl, a mogu se kreirati aliasi diskova, foldera, fajlova i aplikacija, mada je dovoljno reći fajlova jer su i aplikacije samo fajlovi na disku. Kada napravim alias diska koji mi se nalazi na serveru i iskopiram ga na svoj lokalni disk, on funkcioniše ovako: kada dvokliknem na njega tj. otvaram ga, ukoliko nisam prijavljen na Server pojavljuje mi se dijalog za prijavljivanje na fajl server (BTW, aliasi mrežnih diskova se često prave da bi se skratio proces odlaska u Chooser DA, kliktanja na AppleShare ekstenziju, biranje file servera iz spiska i biranja jednog od njegovih volume-a, odnosno diskova, dakle ceo proces do ukucavanja passworda odradi alias mrežnog diska, čak upiše i moj username, dakle ostaje samo da ukucam i password, a ne moram čak ni to ukoliko tako hoću) i po ukucavanju passworda otvori mi disk servera. Ako sam već bio prijavljen na server, samo mi otvori sadržaj diska. Druga lepa primena koja se najčešće koristi je postavljanje aliasa najčešće korišćenih i utility aplikacija za razne namene na desktop. Da ne bih davio evo ti konkretan primer: često dokumentacija i readme fajl za neki program dođe kao plain text fajl, ali je kreiran u Wordu, što vidim po ikoni. Kad bih dvokliknuo na njega, Mek bi pokrenuo Word i uvukao fajl, ali ja to neću (jer nema baš mnogo svrhe pokretati tekst proces za čitanje plain ASCII fajlova, a stvar ume i da potraje dok se word startuje, ne volim da čekam 30 sekundi da bih pročitao text fajl od 500 bajtova). E, moj omiljeni tekst editor je QUED i njegov alias držim na desktopu. Sve što uradim je da obavim jedan drag & drop na ikonu tog aliasa i pokreće mi se QUED koji učitava fajl kojeg sam prevukao preko aliasa QUED-a. Iz ovoga možeš da vidiš da alias na Meku ne služi "samo" da bi se fajlu pristupilo sa raznih strana. Sad kad vidiš kako stvarno funkcionišu aliasi na Win95 (ja na žalost još nisam, ali prema Jankovom tekstu iz Računara mogu da pretpostavim) možemo da popričamo o "mažnjavanju".
mac.726 madamov,
LineShare 3.1.3 Demo, softver koji omogućava deljenje jedne linije za faks i remote login. Demo verzija. lshr313.dd
mac.727 madamov,
Artillery 2.0.1 igrica. artil201.dd
mac.728 chitan,
Sa novim casopisom MACWORLD za juli mesec stigao mi je i cd sa SYSTEM 7.5.1 UPDATE (De-bug your System 7.5 with Apple's latest release) i sedam velikih mekovih igara. Ako slucajno posedujete CD drive za MAC javite se.
mac.729 haevorn, -> #728, chitan
// 7.5.1. UPDATE U najniovijem MacUseru ima tekst o tome da je taj Update malo bagiran, pa pazi šta radiš... Pokušaću da se dokopam članka pa da vidim u čemu je stvar.
mac.731 madamov, -> #729, haevorn
> U najniovijem MacUseru ima tekst o tome da je taj > Update malo bagiran, pa pazi šta radiš... Pokušaću > da se dokopam članka pa da vidim u čemu je stvar. Hajde pogledaj, ja nemam problema na Centrisu 650 i PowerMac-u 6100/60 (jedini je taj što mi je žao stare Welcome to Macintosh poruke B)), ali moj kolega na 8100 ima određenih problem (Word mu često zaglavljuje, Ilustrator takođe). E, sad, da li zato što je on jedan od onih Mekovaca koji ne mogu da žive bez dva reda ekstenzija ili do 7.5.1 Update-a, ili zbog nečeg drugog... Inače, PowerMac-ovi 9500 koriste System 7.5.2., kad smo već kod update-ova.
mac.730 madamov, -> #728, chitan
> Sa novim casopisom MACWORLD za juli mesec stigao mi je i cd sa SYSTEM > 7.5.1 UPDATE Nenad je bio brži. Instalirano. B) Ali ako još nekom treba, može i meni da se javi, Nenadov CD će da stoji kod mene još neko vreme, a iskopirao sam imidž fajlove instalacionih disketa na optički tako da ni za kasnije nema problema. Da je Sezam na 14400 ne bi bilo problema ni da se update uploaduje (4 HD diskete).
mac.732 alazovic,
DAKLE ZIVIM U KRALJEVU, A MEC-A JOS NE VIDEH NA DELU. IMA LI TO NEKO BLIZE OD BEOGRADA ILI DA SE PAKUJEM NA DANSKI KRALJEVSKI POZDRAV A.A. UZGRED GLEDASTE LI ZADNJE PREDPONOCNE AVANTURE RTS-A I KOMPJUTERSKU HRONIKU, REDOSLED PRIKAZIVANJA MIDI RACUNARA I SOFTVERA AMIGA 4000, PC, MAC - GDE SE ISTI POKAZA BAS FINO JOS JEDNOM POZDRAV PA DA VIDIM I OVO "LIVE" :)
mac.733 madamov,
Uz poruku se nalazi fajl sa sledećim: APS Price List -- 26-Jun-95 =========================== APS Technologies 6131 Deramus PO Box 4987 Kansas City, MO 64120-0087 U.S.A. -> 800/443-4199 (toll free in the US) 816/483-6100 816/483-3077 (fax) Domestic Sales: <sales@apstech.com> International Sales: <intlsales@apstech.com> Technical Support & Customer Service: <support@apstech.com> Repair: <repair@apstech.com> Fajl je plain ASCII tako da mogu i oni sa PC-em da ga čitaju, naime nije reč o cenama Mekova već periferalija (diskova, uglavnom). aps.txt
mac.734 madamov,
Date: 01 Jun 94 13:21:08 EDT From: bruce grubb <72130.3557@CompuServe.COM> Subject: [*] mac.ftp.list Version 3.8.6 Archive name: mac-ftp-list386.txt category: communication, text This is the latest {June 1,1994} version this report and should replace the previous version of mac-ftp-list.txt. Changes: sumex info updated; imag.imag.fr is ftp.imag.fr Added sites: cs.rice.edu; ftp.stolaf.edu; sol.bucknell.edu; devtools.symantec.com; ftp.radius.com; ftp.austin.apple.com This is a update {June 1,1994} to Mike Gleason's ftp list {He gave me permision to continue it}. It lists a good number of mac anonymous ftp sites with notes on some and a little blurb on how to use anonymous ftp. Must be in Monaco 9 {or PC equivalent} to be readable. NASTAVAK UZ PORUKU (PLAIN ASCII) macftpl.386
mac.735 madamov,
Još jedna informacija u vezi PowerMAc-ova 9500, dobio sam je od Popa: memorija se može proširiti do 768 Mb i kanda se koriste posebne memorije.
mac.736 madamov,
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mac.737 madamov,
From pax!tidbits.com!ace Wed Jul 12 00:02:38 1995 Return-Path: <tidbits.com!ace@pax> Received: from fon.fon.bg.ac.yu by osmeh.fon.bg.ac.yu with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sVnO1-00015iC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 00:02 MET DST Received: from pax by fon.fon.bg.ac.yu id aa24276; 12 Jul 95 1:46 MESZ Received: by pax.caa.co.yu with ZCONNECT id <30026336>; Tue, 11 Jul 95 11:40:39 +0300 Received: from tidbits.com by bi-node.zerberus.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0sVNH1-0002C8C; Mon, 10 Jul 95 20:09 MET DST To: Milan Adamov <MILAN_ADAMOV@zamir-bg.ztn.apc.org> Message-Id: <m0sVNH1-0002C8C@bi-node.zerberus.de> From: info@tidbits.com Path: zamir-bg.ztn.apc.org!info Subject: info Date: Wed, 31 Dec 69 23:59:59 +0000 X-Mailer: ZERBERUS V5.2 Rel4.0 <Z231> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT UI pax.caa.co.yu [UNIX/Connect v0.53] Received: from tidbits.com by bi-node.zerberus.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0sVNH1-0002C8C; Mon, 10 Jul 95 20:09 MET DST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Z-VER: MILAN_ADAMOV@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org X-Z-O-ROT: zamir-bg.ztn.apc.org!bionic.zerberus.de!tidbits.com!ace X-Z-U-Errors-To: ace@tidbits.com Lines: 84 Status: RO TidBITS Information =================== Greetings, Thanks for enquiring about TidBITS! We hope you enjoy reading our publication, and feel free to send us any comments or suggestions. What is TidBITS? ---------------- TidBITS is a free weekly electronic publication that reports on interesting products and events in the computer industry, currently with an emphasis on the world of the Macintosh. In addition to weekly issues, we occasionally publish formal review issues and special issues focussing on a single topic. We feel that publications like TidBITS will become an important medium of exchange as the world becomes more electronically connected. TIDBITS LISTSERV ---------------- To subscribe to the TIDBITS list at Rice University, send email to the following address: LISTSERV@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU In the _body_ of the mail, put the line: SUBSCRIBE TIDBITS your full name and you will be automatically added. You should also receive an acknowledgment from the LISTSERV so you know that you're on. If you are already on the mailing list and need to remove yourself because you are leaving for the summer or you just can't keep up with so much mail, send another mailfile to the address above with this line in the _body_ of the mailfile: SIGNOFF TIDBITS and you will be automatically removed as long as you are sending the SIGNOFF command from the same account you used to SUBSCRIBE. The LISTSERV will let you know if the command is successful or not. Changing Addresses ------------------ Many people change email addresses and wish to have TidBITS delivered to their new address. To change your address, simply send a SIGNOFF command (see above) from the _old_ account, then send a SUBSCRIBE command (see above again) from the _new_ account. Back Issues ----------- To request back issues of TidBITS via email send email to: LISTSERV@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU with one or more lines like this in the body of the mailfile: $MAC GET tidbits-230.etx $MAC GET tidbits-231.etx (you can get a list of available files with $MAC DIR) You can find all the back issues via anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.tidbits.com/pub/tidbits/issues/ Recent issues are available on the World-Wide Web at this URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/pages/TidBITS/TidBITS.html Again, thanks for your interest and feel free to pass on any comments or suggestions that you may have. Enjoy! Adam & Tonya Engst, TidBITS Editors $$
mac.738 madamov, -> #737, madamov
> TidBITS Information Uskoro očekujte ovde redovno, kako meni budu pristizali, ostavljene TidBITS fajlove, jer sam se na iste preko ZaMIR-a pretplatio (to tamo može, Mališa nije slagao, pravi Internet E-mail košta 10 dinara mesečno). Takođe ću ostavljati i ono najinteresantnije iz Info-Mac Digesta na koje sam se takođe pretplatio.
mac.739 ljubinko, -> #732, alazovic
> DAKLE ZIVIM U KRALJEVU, A MEC-A JOS NE VIDEH NA DELU. > IMA LI TO NEKO BLIZE OD BEOGRADA ILI DA SE PAKUJEM NA DANSKI KRALJEVSKI Mada nisi pitao nije lose da podsetim da (koliko ja znam) postoji samo jedan BBS kod nas koji podrzava MEC-a i to je: MICSOFT 030/34456 radi na 14400, od 22 sata do 06, podrzava Atari i Aplle.
mac.740 madamov, -> #739, ljubinko
> samo jedan BBS kod nas koji podrzava MEC-a i to je: Pa i Sezam ga, bar malo, podržava. B) Šta mislite u koju temu ostavljate poruke? A i piše se Mac (skraćeno od Macintosh) B).
mac.741 alazovic, -> #740, madamov
Uzgred govori li se o Mec-i ili Mac-i A.A. 8)
mac.742 madamov, -> #741, alazovic
> Uzgred govori li se o Mec-i ili Mac-i > A.A. 8) O Mac-u. B) Ono prvo ću ti oprostiti. B)
mac.743 ljubinko, -> #740, madamov
> Pa i Sezam ga, bar malo, podrzava. B) Sta mislite u koju temu >ostavljate poruke? A i pise se Mac (skraceno od Macintosh) B). Sezam ga podrzava, ali MALO. Ili se meni cini da je malo. Ili bih voleo da je ta podrska veca. Cini mi se da ga Sezam vise ignorise nego sto podrzava, a to se odnosi i na druge kompjutere (Amiga, Atari). Ili bih voleo da ta podrska pomenutim komjuterima bude veca. Izvinjavam se zbog greske u kucanju.
mac.744 madamov, -> #743, ljubinko
> Cini mi se da ga Sezam vise ignorise nego sto podrzava, a to > se odnosi i na druge kompjutere (Amiga, Atari). Ili bih voleo da ta > podrska pomenutim komjuterima bude veca. Dotična dva račuanra imaju konferenciju, Mac je nema, no ako bude više Mekovaca na Sezamu biće, valjda, i teme.
mac.745 madamov, -> #744, madamov
> Dotična dva račuanra imaju konferenciju, Mac je nema, no ako bude više > Mekovaca na Sezamu biće, valjda, i teme. Izvinjavam se, mislio sam konferencije, umesto teme. A time i posebnog direktorijuma za fajlove koje sada treba juriti po tri toma konferencije ORKA. (u toliko izdanja postoji tema mac).
mac.746 kale, -> #745, madamov
>> A time i posebnog direktorijuma za fajlove koje sada treba juriti po tri >> toma konferencije ORKA. Mogao bih da tražim direktorijum za Mac-a, ali ne mogu da napravim selekciju programa i datoteka, ni po verzijama, ni po korisnosti, ... Ima li dobrovoljca? (mora da bude lep, pametan, bogat, ... i da ima Mac-a)
mac.747 madamov, -> #746, kale
> Ima li dobrovoljca? (mora da bude lep, pametan, bogat, ... i da ima > Mac-a) Evo, javljam se, samo će mi biti potrebno vremena. Nadam se da ispunjavam uslove? B)
mac.748 kale, -> #747, madamov
>> >> mora da bude lep, pametan, bogat, ... i da ima Mac-a >> Nadam se da ispunjavam uslove? B) Paaaaa, iiiispunjaaaavaaaš, a naročito od pozadi (imaš Mac-a). ;> Šala na stranu, baš mi je drago da si se baš ti javio. Idem odmah da tražim direktorijum, a po mogućnosti celo stablo. Pozdrav, Kale
mac.749 radosav,
> Ortaka interesuje dali neko ima emulator ATARI-ja na MAC-u i da li > je moguce videti to na delu? >
mac.750 madamov,
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mac.751 madamov, -> #750, madamov
Info-Mac uz poruku je plain ASCII fajl tako da ga mogu čitati svi zainteresovani, tj. i oni koji ne poseduju Macintosh, a možda bi želeli, pa da mogu da se informišu.
mac.752 alazovic,
Posto se zna da nisam ni video Mac-a uzivo, moja pitanja se odnose na hardver vezan za video in-out tj. cime raspolazu novije masine. Mislim na kartice ili sl. za capture i na softver koji se bavi montazom istog Mislim da sam ranije u jednoj Kompjuterskoj hronici na RTS-u zakacio nesto od ovoga, ali mi nije jesno, niti znam kako koji MAc izgleda. Pozdrav A.A.
mac.753 madamov, -> #752, alazovic
> Mislim na kartice ili sl. za capture i na softver koji se bavi montazom istog Nisam se mnogo zanimao za ovo u nedostatku vremene iako u firmi imam jedan 8100AV čiji bi se memorijski kapaciteti i diskovni kapaciteti mogli nositi sa primenom u ovoj oblasti. Elem, ono što se vidi odmah je da uz svaki AV model dobijaš softver za capture sa videa. To je zato što je u MacOS standardno ugrađena QuickTime koji omogućava da QuickTime movie, dakle film kao objekat, postane sistemski resurs. Šta to tačno znači? Da sa QT filmovima možeš da manipulišeš kao i sa tekstom, zvukom i svim ostalim stvarima koje bez problema može da Copy&Paste gde god hoćeš sve to podržano sistemski. Softver za montažu je recimo Adobe Premiere kojeg imam i kojeg sam kratko pogledao i deluje moćno, bar na prvi pogled. Ima još softvera tog tipa. Međutim, za profesionalnu primenu u ovoj oblasti ipak treba kupiti posebne uređaje, najpopoularniji je Radius VideoVision Studio, to je hardversko-softverski paket za profi obradu videa, cena mu je ranga $3000 u SAD.
mac.754 alazovic, -> #753, madamov
10.753 ORKA.4:mac > Elem, ono sto se vidi odmah je da uz svakiAV model dobijas softver > za capture sa videa. Jeli to Adobe ili nesto jednostavnije - ah, da ga vidim sve bi bilo lakse! > posebni uredaji, najpopoularniji je Radius VideoVision Studio, $3000 Sta spada u ovih 3000, moze li se nesto navesti ?